> > No room for city name or any other data, I'm afraid.
> >
> > It's like saying the standard for the References header
> > doesn't specify what can and can not come after the list of
> > references, so why not add your car model there? :-D
>
> Yeah, it's bogus.
> But why are you failing only some dates that don't adhere to the 'standard'?
> Sat, 2 Apr 2016 20:56:38 +0200 (CEST) should fail in your code, too.
The "(Seattle)" in my "Date:" line is a prefectly _legal comment.
Jonas Eklundh should learn what "(Comments)" are ( in NNTP headers )
and remove them before passing a "Date:" line to php's strtotime().
Quoting rfc5322 " 3.2.2. Folding White Space and Comments ":
Strings of characters enclosed in parentheses are considered comments
[...]
A comment is normally used in a structured field body to provide some
human-readable informational text.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-3.2.2
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny vfWdnTPFqq2dSq3EnZ2dnUU7-TPNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS ogt88d$jia$3@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny GIqdnZnkQJM01a_EnZ2dnUU7-QPNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS ogv4uf$9bt$3@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny r8adnV2Ej55YgK7EnZ2dnUU7-aPNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oh109n$fjh$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--10.23am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 3/11|343 Top; 3.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jun 4 { 6: 4am, 2017 }: 3^(-4) WRϸϱ
My Scorefile.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> There's NOTHING more lame than talking about who's in your killfile,
> their "score", why they were put in there, when they're "getting out", etc.
> So pathetic. Please stop talking about your gd killfiles.
This is my scorefile. X.HTM has more settings.
I read ALL "direct" replies to me, no matter who from.
Alias: // "Nym Alias1 Alias2," renames Alias1, Alias2 to Nym.
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf, MrAA Double-A, HerbertGlazier reber_
AbhinavLal alal65, SamWormley swormley1, EdProchak Edward_Prochak
JonasEklundh Sandman TickleMe, JohnSefton john│, ScottDoty vallor
JohnGohde gohdejohn nhp_bus John_Gohde, JimPennino jimp@
MichaelGlasser Snit, TakuyaSaitoh Takuya_Saitoh
Fabian F_Russell fr31 Fabian_Russell Vince_Vandal Vile_Strong
PeterKöhlmann Peter_Köhlmann, MrChrisV chrisv, MrDFS DFS│
HughHuntzinger -hh│ recscuba_, ChrisAhlstrom Chris_Ahlstrom
JamesMcGinn Serg_Io James_McGinn Solving_Tor, hVac HVAC
AndrzejMatuch Slimer Silver, BenJacoby benj Benj bjacoby BJACOBY
MichaelMoroney moroney, MarkFergerson nuny@bid alien8er│
Owl owl│, Melzzz Melzzz Mel│mel@zzz, SteveCarroll Steve_Carroll
Top: // Read these Nyms, in this order,
// including direct/indirect replies to "(R)" Nyms, 5 levels deep:
JeffRelf(R) MrAA Yousuf_Khan ScottDoty TakuyaSaitoh
HughHuntzinger MrDFS Wally_W MarkFergerson EdProchak Owl
Drop: // Drop posts from these Nyms, Servers, and/or "Rigs" (NewsReaders):
tesla_sTinker Scummy Robert_Clark _@ ChrisAhlstrom
Nobody AbhiJeet gaby_de Tim_BandT Charlie│ drhuang57
Arindam_Banerjee JonasEklundh Steven_Petr Wolf_K _% James_Wilkinson
7│ F_Art JohnSefton Jonas_Eklundh Helmut_Wabnig Ned_Latham Checkmate
Sylvia_Else MichaelGlasser Fakey numbernum JamesMcGinn Fabian poraty
Alan_Folmsbee pnalsing MichaelMoroney Archimedes William_Poaster
Pentcho_ BenJacoby The_ HerbertGlazier hanson│ MrChrisV
PeterKöhlmann JohnGohde SteveCarroll Mahipal KCIR2 BadRig Dizum
// Nyms not explicity mentioned above are read next;
// first "CoolCats", then "MadHatters", then "Shifties".
//
// Nyms with posts spanning 7+ days are "Regulars"; otherwise, they're "Shifties".
// "Regulars" who average less than 5 posts/day are "Cool"; otherwise they're "Mad".
// "MadHatters" and "Shifties" are limited to their 5 most recent posts, last 24 hours.
//
// Nyms within a catagory are sorted by most "Votes" (replies) first;
// however, some Nyms' Votes get/give more weight,
// and the more a Nym Votes, the less each Vote counts ( like PageRank ).
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny jqSdnbgHUPKJaK_EnZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS ogv52o$9bt$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.50pm.Seattle.2017
MrDFS AWFYA.72168$vj1.970@fx34.iad
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--3.55pm.Seattle.2017
noel│deletethis@invalid_lan 5933a7ca$1@news.ausics.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--0.24am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
+-, 57.1 Minutes, Pan, Ausics.NET, Jun 3 { 11:25pm, 2017 }:14^(10) WRΙɀ
No worries mate, you're not alone.
Effectively, You ( Noel Butler ) told us:
> I'm stupid.
No worries mate, you're not alone.
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HerbertGlazier c952af1e-9d37-4a95-9619-0f80ac9d4d34@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 8183b894-7ebc-40ee-8087-b25a41d68341@googlegroups.com
MrAA a7d9bb1b-fc84-4017-955c-7e486e851985@googlegroups.com
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--4.03pm.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--8.45pm.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|42 Top; 56.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Jun 3 { 3: 1pm, 2017 }:18^(PDT) WRɤɌ
Poverty is not a crime, but attacking your neighbor is.
Poverty is not a crime, but attacking your neighbor is.
North Korea is that crazy homeless guy shaking you down.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shakedown
If " he " ( the North Korean government ) doesn't die
from an " accidental " overdose ( i.e. war, suicide by cop ),
he'll be locked up ( jail or rehab, willingly or not ).
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HerbertGlazier c952af1e-9d37-4a95-9619-0f80ac9d4d34@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 8183b894-7ebc-40ee-8087-b25a41d68341@googlegroups.com
MrAA a7d9bb1b-fc84-4017-955c-7e486e851985@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--4.03pm.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|42 Top; 56.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Jun 3 { 3: 1pm, 2017 }:18^(PDT) WRɤɌ
North Korea's government is trying to kill itself ( suicide by cop ).
North Korea's government is trying to kill itself ( suicide by cop ).
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny GIqdnZvkQJPm16_EnZ2dnUU7-QOdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oguofu$tvg$4@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny jqSdnbgHUPKJaK_EnZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS ogv52o$9bt$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.50pm.Seattle.2017
MrDFS AWFYA.72168$vj1.970@fx34.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--3.55pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╳ 1/1|347 Top; 50.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jun 3 { 2:34pm, 2017 }: 9^(-4) WRɟϷ
" Content-Type: Text/HTML " destroys Ray Banana's lame newsreader.
You ( DFS ) told me:
> Your posts (this one and the earlier one) are being dropped
> by eternal-september . Wonder why... probably this:
>
" Content-Type: Text/HTML " destroys Ray Banana's lame newsreader;
he can't fix it, so he drops my posts instead.
These INN servers carry " Content-Type: Text/HTML " posts:
MB-Net.NET
// CostFree, Germany. http://open-news-network.org/register
// Drops Anonymous et al. Posts "@.".
Individual.NET
// 10 Euros/year, PayPal, Germany. Drops ArchimedesPlutonium
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TakuyaSaitoh c0170921-5ee7-4f23-81ed-8fe7031cbd7f@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 4b6d8c5a-f5b2-4d65-a1a1-ac0e8e79c497@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny GIqdnZvkQJPm16_EnZ2dnUU7-QOdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oguofu$tvg$4@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny jqSdnbgHUPKJaK_EnZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS ogv52o$9bt$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.50pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/4|346 Top; 12.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jun 3 { 1:16pm, 2017 }: 9^(-4) WRɒϷ
He does his thing his way, I do my thing my way, as do you.
You ( DFS ) told Marek Novotny:
> In addition to Linux, you use Windows and Apple to make a living.
He makes/sells DVD copies, I think.
And (nearly) all of it involves special "unix" devices, not PCs.
He does his thing his way, I do my thing my way, as do you.
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AbhinavLal a4990056-a778-40d2-94e2-f38ae1c0d008@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.25pm.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism
╱ 1/1|3 Cool; 20.2 Hours, GoogleG, 182.68.8.141, Jun 2 { 3:59pm, 2017 }:57^(PDT) WQϕჳ
Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.
Abhinav Lal wrote:
> According to Eternalisim, all moments in time exist.
> According to Presentism, only the present exists.
>
> I believe in Presentism, because I believe in free will,
> and that the universe is non deterministic.
> What do you believe in?
Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.
Still:
The ( four dimensional ) timescape is static, immutable;
the future is just as fixed as the past;
(semi)randomness is (semi)ignorance, nothing more.
Humanity is just another way to consume exergy, like the stars.
And there are many paths to follow; Science _Fiction is very profitable.
We get mad when our paths cross, like road rage,
but there's nothing anyone can do about it, nature programmed us.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--5.39pm.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
People ( e.g. Trump ) think we're less "great" now.
Right or Wrong, People ( e.g. Trump ) think we're less "great" now.
Every Social Justice Warrior (SJW), every Men's Rights Activist (MRA),
every wilting, childless feminist, every LGBTQIA troll,
every ADHD patient, every junkie, etc. are spoiled brats.
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poraty350@gmail_com 2d635ebd-0f30-4871-9d4c-d35cc6f5d4f5@googlegroups.com
poraty350@gmail_com 50c033f8-9102-40c1-bc88-c2779cbf8ea2@googlegroups.com
The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 592EFA64.5B8F@ix.netcom.com
EdProchak c895c7ad-bbff-41ed-8344-32253be12cd6@googlegroups.com
The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 592F7C44.630F@ix.netcom.com
EdProchak 5b763ba2-f086-4cd4-83fe-2cc45138b51a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--5.13pm.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/10|65 Top; 1.2 Days, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Jun 1 { 10:57am, 2017 }: 8^(PDT) WPйΝ
"energy" ( a.k.a. "mass" ).
Starmaker asks:
> > What Is Mass?
The photon has no rest mass ( as it's never at rest ),
but it has "energy" ( a.k.a. "mass" ).
Now that we have the precision, the KiloGram can be defined
in terms of a standard photon ( as is time and length ),
the Planck constant, and an ultra-pure sphere ( silicon-28 ).
https://www.nist.gov/physical-measurement-laboratory/plancks-constant
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--0.30pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Lang.C++, News.Software.Readers, Sci.Physics
The EvaluationOrder/Precedence of C/C++ Operators.
The Evaluation Order of these expressions are UnDefined/SemiRandom:
i = ++i + i++ ; i = i++ + 1 ; Array[ i ] = i++ ;
Func( ++i, ++i ); Func( i = -1, i = -1 ); Func( i, i++ );
http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/eval_order
The middle part of a Conditional Expression ( between ? and : )
is parsed as if parenthesized; for example:
int rv, zz ;
zz = 1, rv = zz ? zz = 1, 2 : zz = 3, 6 ;
printf( L"%d and %d", rv, zz ); // Prints: " 2 and 1 ".
zz = 0, rv = zz ? zz = 1, 2 : zz = 3, 6 ;
printf( L"%d and %d", rv, zz ); // Prints: " 3 and 3 ".
http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/operator_precedence
Precedence of C Operators:
Associativity
( Left to right ) Category Operator
----------------- --------------- ----------------------------------------------
Postfix Unary Func() [] -> . ++ --
Right to left Prefix Unary + - ! ~ ++ -- (type) * & sizeof
Multiplicative * / %
Additive + -
Shift << >>
Relational < <= > >=
Equality == !=
Bitwise AND &
Bitwise XOR ^
Bitwise OR |
Logical AND &&
Logical OR ||
N/A Conditional Bool ? True : False
Right to left Assignment = += -= *= /= %= >>= <<= &= ^= |=
Comma ,
http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/operator_precedence
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--4.45am.Seattle.2017
AndrzejMatuch HA1WA.182717$Dm2.105712@fx44.iad
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--3.24pm.Seattle.2017
AndrzejMatuch YY2WA.8736$3v3.4186@fx06.iad
RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ogcfc1$7ql$4@dont-email.me
MichaelGlasser D54F1ABB.A5A94%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.27--0.21pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 2/3|670 Dropped; 2.3 Minutes, MS_Entourage➤Mac, Individual.NET, May 27 { 11:59am, 2017 }:55^(-7) WMΞჱ
" Virgin Raping " privileges given to soldiers.
Michael Glasser replied to RonB and Andrzej Matuch:
> > > The Qu'ran endorses the rape of non-Muslim women.
> >
> > They euphemistically call the women they rape and pass around "wives."
>
> Sounds like the Bible.
Sacred " Virgin Raping " privileges were given to soldiers,
according to the Holy Bible and Quran.
Ireland had this problem ( the IRA and priests raped virgins )
back when they were ( nearly ) as backwards as Afghanistan is today.
It's a cultural thing ( a _lack of culture, really ).
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--3.55am.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 5acc5659-c16c-48a5-96f6-8b40bf6bd7ee@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--4.45am.Seattle.2017
AndrzejMatuch HA1WA.182717$Dm2.105712@fx44.iad
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--3.24pm.Seattle.2017
AndrzejMatuch YY2WA.8736$3v3.4186@fx06.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--5.31pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/5|160 Cool; 11.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, May 26 { 4:35pm, 2017 }:21^(-4) WLჱя
The Catholic child rapists ( IRA and priests ).
No, Andrzej Matuch, the Arab rapists ( Tamin Rahani, 37,
Shershah Muslimyar, 20, Rafiullah Hamidy, 24, and a 16-year-old )
did _not claim that they were doing it for the glory of Islam.
Likewise, the Catholic child rapists ( IRA and priests )
never made any such claims.
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Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com 3a6623db-e237-4f63-8b8a-5797e504b347@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger b572ab40-1816-4ed9-b6cc-f57f1b95682d@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--3.55am.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 5acc5659-c16c-48a5-96f6-8b40bf6bd7ee@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--4.45am.Seattle.2017
AndrzejMatuch HA1WA.182717$Dm2.105712@fx44.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--3.24pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/7|155 Cool; 15.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, May 26 { 3: 1pm, 2017 }:12^(-4) WLტȾ
Alter boys.
Andrzej Matuch replied ( to me ):
> > Maíría Cahill was raped by a member of the IRA at the age of 16 in 1997.
> > When she made this known years later, she faced an IRA " kangaroo court ".
> >
> > " a Woman Alone with the IRA ", by Jennifer O'Leary, Oct, 2014
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RldqBnTcmA4
>
> And I imagine that the IRA did this in the name of Christianity
> and identified themselves as Christian, right?
Did the Arab rapists, mentioned in this thread,
do it in the name of Islam ?
What about the priests who raped the alter boys ?
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TakuyaSaitoh 34201010-85ee-43a3-a12e-96c6bdcc732c@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh f7af5e9b-595e-4e93-bf72-a3b89e48dc7d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--10.01am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|104 Top; 30.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 176.126.252.12, May 26 { 9:28am, 2017 }:20^(PDT) WLЪВ
Any hospital that doesn't have proper backups...
Any hospital that doesn't have proper backups,
-- ones that can't be held for ransom --,
should pay... big time.
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hVac 27da4f8d-1167-4cb2-a0ec-a01d8b442c75@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 5924cf15$0$57927$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com
hVac f41badf0-3cd9-4cc5-b726-e7a5da70c21c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--7.19am.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|119 Cool; 3 Hours, GoogleG, May 26 { 4: 8am, 2017 }: 5^(PDT) WLϗɽ
Ben Jacoby's Curriculum Vitae.
Mr. hVac opined:
> Ben Jacoby is a full time scientist ( he has a card ),
> full time range instructor ( so he says ),
>
> a martial arts expert (cough),
> a full time professional musician (snarf),
> a ghost hunter (obviously) and an alien abductee.
>
> Have I covered everything ?
For a small "donation", he'll give you a "lap dance", I think.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.24P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofsfea$55u$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--11.27A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofv80e$ioi$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--0.01P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS og6lfa$io6$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--7.35am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|373 Top; 2.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 25 { 6:21am, 2017 }:21^(-4) WLDβ
Andy Rubin's " NoCrossPosting " rules.
You ( MrDFS ) replied ( to me ):
> Google Groups search is braindead now.
> It used to be decent - I don't know why they killed it.
When Andy Rubin ( of WebTV fame ) took over GoogleGroups,
he imposed his " NoCrossPosting " rules -- specifically,
he made it impossible to properly search Usenet without
specifying a newsgroup.
> > In the meantime, you got a good system, I think.
>
> It's fun and easy to use: https://vid.me/wja4
Your "Details" ( Raw Header/Body ) thing didn't work,
it showed the wrong post.
I cringed when it showed my 2003 posts ( in the video );
likely, my opinions have since changed.
> > His email: Geoff Brozny .
> > He didn't reply, last time I tried, 9 months ago.
>
> It might be a one-man shop, like Altopia.
It _was a one man shop, now it's private.
Glorb's ( outdated ) web portal is deceiving.
> > Recently, Glorb was taking just 4 seconds to download a thousand posts,
> > full header and body.
>
> Amazing. What was the exact command to get the data?
> At that rate you could download 1M posts in just over an hour.
I pipeline/upload 100 "Article" commands at a time,
and I use a 4 MegaByte input buffer -- it's very sophisticated.
Upon receiving a chunk ( e.g. a 30 KiloByte Article ),
I check for proper line endings -- "\r\n" in the header,
"\r" and/or "\n" in the body, if the "Content-Type:" is text.
I don't parse the Body UnlessAndUntil I have the full header
( so I know what the "Content-Type:" is ).
The body itself may have varios (MIME) "Content-Type:" lines.
> If you lost the data (your words "total data loss, no back up") you
> can't change the article numbers because you no longer have the original
> articles to change.
>
> Or maybe you're saying they reused the lost article numbers on new posts
> coming in ( and the lost data was never available again )?
The later, ArticleNumbers begin again, starting at 1 .
Ray Banana is like Geoff Brozny, apprently, not answering.
> > Thee _Only MessageID I trust is the last one in the "References:" line;
>
> huh? Trust?
>
> They all matter for threading/display, but the one that matters most is
> the /first/ one. As long as that's maintained you can easily get all
> the posts in a thread.
How ? it might not even be in Cola, it could be 100% unavailable;
so I rebuild (sub) threads using the partent post, not the initial one.
> > besides, crossposting makes it ( nearly ) impossible to recreate
> > the _entire thread [ using the initial MessageID of the thread ].
>
> Why? You have the messageIDs.
If you have just one MessageID, the initial MessageID of the thread,
you can't do much with it -- especially if it's from another newsgroup,
and/or not on your server ( not all serevers carry all groups ).
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HughHuntzinger d21619f2-2a39-432c-b791-5f7a251aecee@googlegroups.com
Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com 3a6623db-e237-4f63-8b8a-5797e504b347@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger b572ab40-1816-4ed9-b6cc-f57f1b95682d@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--3.55am.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 5acc5659-c16c-48a5-96f6-8b40bf6bd7ee@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--4.45am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|105 Top; 3.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 46.183.221.231, May 25 { 4:18am, 2017 }:39^(PDT) WKჯd
Maíría Cahill was raped by a member of the IRA at the age of 16 in 1997.
Maíría Cahill was raped by a member of the IRA at the age of 16 in 1997.
When she made this known years later, she faced an IRA " kangaroo court ".
" a Woman Alone with the IRA ", by Jennifer O'Leary, Oct, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RldqBnTcmA4
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PeterKöhlmann og4uka$jvr$2@dont-email.me
Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com f3d674d5-ce7b-4010-a570-2fecce4ef572@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger d21619f2-2a39-432c-b791-5f7a251aecee@googlegroups.com
Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com 3a6623db-e237-4f63-8b8a-5797e504b347@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger b572ab40-1816-4ed9-b6cc-f57f1b95682d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.25--3.55am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
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Ireland woke up.
WikiPedia says:
The 1996 Manchester bombing was an attack carried out by
the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) on Saturday 15 June 1996.
The IRA detonated a 1,500-kilogram ( 3,300 lb ) truck bomb on
Corporation Street in the centre of Manchester, England.
Since then, Ireland has woken up;
i.e. they've rejected Catholicism and wanton breeding/killing
in favor of a rich, well educated, modern society.
With luck, Islam will do the same.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--2.33P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS og2gbk$6ld$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--5.30P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS og510n$ttg$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--4.32pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
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Ray Banana allows my posts now because he fixed his newsreader.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > > I could've made it probably 75% shorter by using
> > > python date/time objects and timedeltas.
> >
> > You don't like " time/date/MIME/encoding " standards, obviously;
> > ironically, you say it's me ( not you ), that's OffStandard.
>
> wtf? There is no standard for converting dates.
" python date/time objects and timedeltas" are standards.
I use these standards ( C/C++ ):
#define SecsToFields( S ) localtime( ( time_t * ) &S )
typedef unsigned __int64 u64 ;
TIME_ZONE_INFORMATION UTC; u64 nowAge = time(0) ;
tm msgAgeRec = {}, &nowAgeRec = *SecsToFields( nowAge );
GetTimeZoneInformation( &UTC );
int TimeZone = UTC.Bias + nowAgeRec.tm_isdst * UTC.DaylightBias ;
wchar Date_Line[88], *pST = Date_Line ;
pST += wcsftime( pST, 88, L"%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S ", &nowAgeRec );
wchar *P = _wasctime( &nowAgeRec );
> It looks like [ rfc2822 ] doesn't even address anything beyond the
> '+/-4DIGIT'. But most everyone else who uses it puts a time zone
> in there; you're 'special' of course, so you put a city name in.
So ? My "Date:" line conforms to rfc2822, not rfc822.
> I don't drop your posts. I don't drop anyone's posts.
You intentionally used a server that dropped my posts.
Ray Banana dropped my post for the same reason Sandman does;
to wit: their HalfAssed newsreaders couldn't handle:
rfc2822, Proper Threading, " Subject:" line changes, MIME, HTML,
EncodedWords ( in headers ), QuotedPrintable/Base64 encoding, etc.
Of course, this means they had to drop GoogleGroups posts too.
Likely, Ray Banana allows my posts now because he fixed his newsreader.
> I haven't taken the time to "fix" your intentional thread-breaking
> ( where you drop the first reference in the thread ).
>
> All correctly-written newsreaders maintain the References;
> your X.EXE program doesn't, and apparently Agent doesn't either.
All you need is the one MessageID, the parent.
Suppose you had the MessageID of the inital post, one started in
another newsgroup ( not Cola )... What would you do with it ?
> You add a new Subject line to nearly every post you make.
> Most of them are off-the-wall, are relevant to ONE line in the post
> - not the message as a whole - and are repeated word-for-word in the post.
At least I put SOME effort into it, unlike you,
who intentionally uses a LongOutdated "Subject:" line.
> John Gohde does the same thing, and if you find yourself
> behaving like Gohde, you've taken a wrong turn.
I like him; he's a funny, horny old codger.
VitaminD is John Gohde's Viagra. What does Takuya Saitoh use ?
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
JonasEklundh sandman-e13320e55000d5fd0e90d5bb27843c13@individual.net
MrDFS og2gcr$6ld$2@dont-email.me
JonasEklundh sandman-d4bc4d8c35ad515214875e7af6dc563c@individual.net
MrChrisV 47uaiclclc4stque2st98gl8mo1f3hin32@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--6.00am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Lang.C++
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With " warnings as errors ", you don't want it to stop the debuging.
Mr ChrisV wrote:
> Relf's statements eschewing the importance of compiler warnings [ is stupid ].
Quoting myself:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
With " warnings as errors ", turn off these warnings:
c4702: UnReachable code.
A tempory "return" is needed, at times, when debugging.
With " warnings as errors ", you don't want it to stop the debuging.
c4100: unreferenced parameter.
c4101: unreferenced local variable.
c4189: local variable is initialized but not referenced.
Variables get commented out, at times, when debugging.
With " warnings as errors ", you don't want it to stop the debuging.
UnUsed variables are informative, and might be needed again, later.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
JonasEklundh sandman-e13320e55000d5fd0e90d5bb27843c13@individual.net
MrDFS og2gcr$6ld$2@dont-email.me
JonasEklundh sandman-d4bc4d8c35ad515214875e7af6dc563c@individual.net
ScottDoty eokqpmFeeolU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--3.45am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
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TOO LAME to handle it.
Scott Doty told us:
> Ever hear of Postel's Law?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle
Jonas Eklundh says my " Tue, 23 May 2017 18:08:55 -0700 (Seattle) "
violates " https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.3 ";
but it doesn't, read it: rfc2822 section-3.3 .
I've seen this shit a zillion times;
someone's HalfAssed newsreader can't handle:
rfc2822, Proper Threading, " Subject:" line changes, MIME, HTML,
EncodedWords ( in headers ), QuotedPrintable/Base64 encoding, etc.
Weak coders Drop/BitchAbout Google Groups posts for the same reason:
They're TOO LAME to handle it.
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SteveCarroll b65fda98-ccc3-461c-954b-425bb6c537c4@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
JonasEklundh sandman-e13320e55000d5fd0e90d5bb27843c13@individual.net
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--2.45P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS og2gf7$6ld$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--6.08pm.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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I enjoy 380 columns of text.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> Can your newsreader handle multiple posts within the same minute?
No, I never post that fast. I'm not a CrackHead.
> Your various strange behaviors:
>
> A newsreader that can't maintain references.
Don't trust anyting but the last MessageID in the "References:";
otherwise, you'll encounter problems ( eventually ).
It's (nearly) impossible to rebuild a thread using the initial post.
> A 'Seattle' time zone tag added by your newsreader.
My TimeZone is "-0700", not "(Seattle)".
You can't handle today's encodings; to wit:
rfc2822, HTML, MIME, EncodedWords ( in headers ),
QuotedPrintable/Base64 encoding, etc.
> Constant Gohde-like Subject changes.
Your code can't handle "Subject:" line changes.
The DEFAULT "Subject:" line is NEITHER mandatory or desirable.
Quoting
" rfc1036: Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages "
https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1036/rfc1036.html#z4
The "Subject:" line tells what the message is about.
It SHOULD be suggestive enough of the contents of the message
to enable a reader to make a decision whether to read
the message BASED, ON, THE, SUBJECT, ALONE.
If the message is submitted in response to another message
( e.g., is a follow-up ) the DEFAULT subject should
begin with the four characters "Re:",
> Crossposting.
Your code can't handle Crossposting, so it bothers you.
> Adding HTML tags to posts.
< PRE > ( HTML ) is Thee _Only way to properly display
a column of numbers, like on a grocery receipt:
monospaced ( console ) font, space indented.
[ I like the " OCR A " font ]
Google Groups doesn't allow monospaced text,
and ThunderBird uses a proportional font, by default.
Without < PRE > eMails are like that too, you know.
I enjoy 380 columns of text; to wit:
＜SleepPat＞ tells me when I fell asleep, for how long
( where: 7.5 <= SleepHrs < 16 hours ), each and every day, last 2 years.
Text version ( 380 columns wide ! ).
My "waking hours" are more random than most people's;
so, unLike most, I truly _need_ this info,
to predict how many hours are left in my "day".
My monitor is mounted on an arm, swung over my bed;
-- so turning it Off|On is effortless ( it's Off when not used ).
These Off/On events are recorded _automatically.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--0.01P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll b65fda98-ccc3-461c-954b-425bb6c537c4@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--2.33P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS og2gbk$6ld$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--5.30P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Ray Banana once thought like DFS and Sandman.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > I've tried to explain to them ( Sandman and DFS )
> > that, since April 2001 ( rfc2822 ),
> > "GMT" is Much_Much_Worse than the "(Seattle)" in my "Date:" line.
>
> Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:06:35 +0900 (JAYAT)
> Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:27:46 +0900 (banda-Ache)
> Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:59:01 -0700 (Seattle)
> Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:23:28 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
> 16 Mar 17 14:13 CET
>
> 'Seattle' doesn't belong in your post date,
> and Snittish-twisting of an RFC doesn't excuse it.
If rfc822 were valid, instead of rfc2822, you'd be rigtht... but it's _Not.
Quoting
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#appendix-A.6.2
The following [has] an obsolete date format,
including a non-numeric time zone and a two digit year:
Date: 21 Nov 97 09:55:06 GMT
Quoting
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.3
The form "+0000" SHOULD be used to indicate
a time zone at Universal Time.
> That's probably why some of your posts were dropped by various servers.
Ray Banana once thought like you and Sandman;
so he dropped my posts, like you and Sandman.
Because you guys couldn't|can't parse:
HTML, MIME, EncodedWords ( in headers ),
QuotedPrintable/Base64 encoding, etc.
Likewise, your code can't handle a change to the "Subject:" line.
The DEFAULT "Subject:" line is NEITHER mandatory or desirable.
Quoting
" rfc1036: Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages "
https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1036/rfc1036.html#z4
The "Subject:" line tells what the message is about.
It SHOULD be suggestive enough of the contents of the message
to enable a reader to make a decision whether to read
the message BASED, ON, THE, SUBJECT, ALONE.
If the message is submitted in response to another message
( e.g., is a follow-up ) the DEFAULT subject should
begin with the four characters "Re:",
and the "References:" line is required.
> I could've made it probably 75% shorter by using
> python date/time objects and timedeltas.
You don't like " time/date/MIME/encoding " standards, obviously;
ironically, you say it's me ( not you ), that's OffStandard.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--0.01P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll b65fda98-ccc3-461c-954b-425bb6c537c4@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
JonasEklundh sandman-e13320e55000d5fd0e90d5bb27843c13@individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--2.45P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Jonas Eklundh is using an RFC that was outdated April 2001.
Jonas Eklundh is using an RFC that was outdated April 2001.
Neither he nor DFS know shit about today's technology,
e.g. MIME, EncodedWords ( in the header ),
Quoted Printable and Base64 encoding; for example:
http://developer.telemessage.com/faq/how-do-i-encode-non-ascii-characters-in-an-email-subject-line
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--11.27A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofv80e$ioi$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--0.01P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll b65fda98-ccc3-461c-954b-425bb6c537c4@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cfbe251b-ab91-4482-b854-2c200c4f591e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--2.33P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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"GMT" is Much_Much_Worse than the "(Seattle)" in my "Date:" line.
You ( Steve Carroll ) replied ( to me ):
> > > Sandman uses a mail parser for his usenet system.
> >
> > Yes, and it can't parse valid date line ( per rfc2822 );
> > instead, his parser uses ( the outdated ) rfc822.
>
> You spoke with him about it?
I've tried to explain to them ( Sandman and DFS )
that, since April 2001 ( rfc2822 ),
"GMT" is Much_Much_Worse than the "(Seattle)" in my "Date:" line.
Old habits die hard, and Sandman + DFS are _Truly old.
> You guys (Seahawks) will probably kick our asses this year (:
Who knows ? Denver Broncos, February 2016, were amazing.
Paul Allen ( of Microsoft fame ) owns the SeaHawks.
Jeff Bezos ( the world's second richest )
lives next door to Bill Gates ( the first richest ).
" Can AMAZON be More Powerful than a State ? "
by VisualPolitik, May 22, 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMC-A9WHxI
Denver has ( quoting ):
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/team-owner/pat-bowlen-net-worth/
Wisconsin oilman Pat Bowlen has an estimated net
worth of $1 billion. He is the principal owner and
Chief Executive Officer of the Denver Broncos, [...]
He bought a majority stake in the
team for $78 million in 1984 from Edgar Kaiser.
A year after, the Bowlen family bought the rest of the team.
Patrick Dennis Bowlen was born on February 18, 1944
in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin. He holds business and
law degrees both from the University of Oklahoma.
He later became a successful lawyer in Edmonton, Alberta
which led him to build his estimated net worth of $1 billion.
He also has worked at his father’s company.
He is a real estate developer
and has major investments in the mining industry.
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AndrzejMatuch 0wXUA.108038$yk6.61180@fx06.iad
HughHuntzinger 9e08439f-64b6-4de1-a43f-d14be4b1a61d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.20P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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What is it about Islam that makes people want to die ?
What is it about Islam that makes people want to die ?
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.24P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofsfea$55u$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--11.27A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofv80e$ioi$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--0.01P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll b65fda98-ccc3-461c-954b-425bb6c537c4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.23--1.06P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Jonas Eklundh's outdated parser.
You ( Steve Carroll ) replied ( to me ):
> > Google Groups doesn't allow monospaced text,
>
> JavaScript can probably fix that in the display
> but it'll die when you do a full page refresh.
I'd use CSS; Google Groups is too _slow for me.
> Sandman uses a mail parser for his usenet system.
Yes, and it can't parse a valid date line ( per rfc2822 );
instead, his parser uses ( the outdated ) rfc822.
rfc822, August 13, 1982, is outdated.
rfc2822, April 2001, "Obsoletes: 822".
Quoting
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#appendix-A.6.2
The following [has] an obsolete date format,
including a non-numeric time zone and a two digit year:
Date: 21 Nov 97 09:55:06 GMT
Quoting
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.3
The form "+0000" SHOULD be used to indicate
a time zone at Universal Time.
The "(Seattle)" in my "Date:" line isn't supposed to be
an ( outdated ) time zone indicator.
"EDT" ( for example ) is parochial, not global/official.
EDT: GMT - 5 Eastern Daylight Time ( New York ).
EDT: GMT - 4 Tiempo de verano del Este ( Puerto Rico ).
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny MeqdnTyZMr1m0b7EnZ2dnUU7-fGdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--3.43P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Michael Glasser replied to me, and I replied to him, May 7th.
Jonas Eklundh wrote:
> > No regular has responded to Snit since may 4:th
> > Snit desperately trying to talk to regulars:
> > 2017-05-07 3 Marek Novotny, vallor, owl
Michael Glasser replied to me, and I replied to him, May 7th,
and I've been a Cola regular for ( about ) 10 years.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--8.58P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofqrkm$l7h$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.24P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofsfea$55u$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--11.27A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofv80e$ioi$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--0.01P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Google Groups doesn't allow monospaced text.
You ( MrDFS ) replied ( to me ):
> I filled out the contact form at glorb but they never responded.
> They wanted a lot of personal info, too (phone, company name, etc)
Sorry to hear that. He should update his website, to reflect that.
His email: Geoff Brozny .
He didn't reply, last time I tried, 9 months ago.
Recently, Glorb was taking just 4 seconds to download a thousand posts,
full header and body.
> If they lost the data, the article numbers could not have changed.
Why not ? The "xRef:" line is special to each server;
some servers don't even create it.
> In the case of total data loss, moving forward they should
> assign new article numbers in a range never before used
> - they shouldn't reuse previous numbers.
No, they start over, with 1.
Maybe you could email Ray Banana, ask him.
> > 2.15 billion is _already too small, I use 64 bit article numbers.
>
> Shouldn't you worry about dropped references first?
Thee _Only MessageID I trust is the last one in the "References:" line;
besides, crossposting makes it ( nearly ) impossible to recreate
the _entire thread.
> > How do you mesh different article numbers,
> > from different servers, together ?
>
> UNIQUE INDEX ON SERVERID, GROUPID, ARTICLEID
> Also a UNIQUE INDEX ON MESSAGEID to prevent dupes.
> But if any server is gonna reuse article numbers,
> that could block new posts from being loaded. Worrisome.
You could worry about that if/when it happens, I suppose.
In the meantime, you got a good system, I think.
> > EternSep no longer drops any of my posts, HTML or not.
>
> Why did they change?
> Recently you said they dropped various of your posts.
They _were dropping them, but no longer; I don't know why.
< PRE > ( HTML ) is Thee _Only way to properly display
a column of numbers, like on a grocery receipt:
monospaced ( console ) font, space indented.
I like the " OCR A " font.
Google Groups doesn't allow monospaced text,
and ThunderBird uses a proportional font, by default.
Without < PRE > eMails are like that too, you know.
eMails and posts are _Very similar; same rules, MIME and all.
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SteveCarroll bdbaad22-93d1-4fb1-9d7e-861436a54317@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofns74$7e9$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--8.58P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofqrkm$l7h$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.24P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofsfea$55u$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--11.27A.Seattle.2017
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ArticleNumbers.
You ( MrDFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > I've seen EternSep change ArticleNumbers several times.
>
> Not impossible, but /very/ unlikely.
No, I've actually seen it happen; every ArticleNumber changed.
You can/should discuss it with Ray Banana, the admin, as I have.
Besides, different servers use different Article Numbers.
Using 9 MessageID's ( to boookmark where you left off )
is harder, but not impossible ( I do it ).
When switching servers on the fly ( via a CtrlClick ),
my newsreader compares the 9 messageID's, server vs. server,
and tells me if any of them should be added or removed
( from the list of 9 ); otherwise, the transition is instant,
as if I hadn't changed servers at all.
> the xRef header contains the same sequential numbers.
Some servers don't add a "xRef:" line to the header;
others modify it ( it's _not always the same ).
> Why would they reuse article numbers when they have
> 2.15B of them to work with?
Because they lost the data ( total data loss, no back up ).
2.15 billion is _already too small, I use 64 bit article numbers.
> > > How many of your posts has eternal-september dropped?
>
> I was asking so maybe I could download them from blocknews
> and add them to my db and get better posting stats.
How do you mesh different article numbers,
from different servers, together ?
EternSep no longer drops any of my posts, HTML or not.
> > UnLike you, I compare servers. I have backups, incase one goes down.
>
> Between ES and blocknews, I'd say I'm 100% covered.
Right, but I know ( and have ) more servers.
I know a lot about them: what they allow, etc.
See: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--1.26A.Seattle.2017
Alt.Test
dddddddddddddddd
gggggggggggggggg
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SteveCarroll b83464be-906b-474a-9366-7a7964722852@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofn0bv$rmo$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll bdbaad22-93d1-4fb1-9d7e-861436a54317@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofns74$7e9$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--8.58P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofqrkm$l7h$2@dont-email.me
. Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.24P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--0.10A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|388 Top; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 20 { 6:53 P, 2017 }:19^(-4) WIIэ
EternSep itself lets me post HTML.
I signed up with EternSep, to test it.
Not only does it allow HTML posts from other servers,
it lets me post HTML via EternSep itself.
Sadly, it requires a valid, personal email address in the "From:" line.
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SteveCarroll b83464be-906b-474a-9366-7a7964722852@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofn0bv$rmo$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll bdbaad22-93d1-4fb1-9d7e-861436a54317@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofns74$7e9$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--8.58P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ofqrkm$l7h$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.24P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|388 Top; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 20 { 6:53 P, 2017 }:19^(-4) WIIэ
EternSep has 6.5 years of Cola ?
You ( MrDFS ) replied ( to me ):
> ES.org article ID 201860 was assigned to msgid
> 7dbc67a7-d6b4-4d3f-90fe-feab555b5460@y23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com
> in Oct 2010. 6.5 years later it's still assigned to that message.
I've seen EternSep change ArticleNumbers several times.
It has 6.5 years of Cola ?
" Retention is currently 3 years for de.*, 160 days for the Big 8 "
http://www.eternal-september.org/
How do you know the ArticleNum was assinged 6.5 years ago,
and not last year ( reloaded from another source ) ?
> Once a news server assigns an article number,
> it stays with the article until the article is deleted
> - and then that article number is retired.
You wish. What makes you think that ?
The newsgroup gets lost sometimes, and has to be reloaded,
thus creating different/new ArticleNumbers.
> How many of your posts has eternal-september dropped?
UnLike me, you don't " Need To Know " who drops what and why.
> > UnLike EternalSep, BlockNews rejects cancellation requests.
> > Different servers drop different posts, depending on their policies.
> > Glorb, uncensored version, is THEE ONLY server that drops nothing.
>
> Why do you use 9 servers?
> One for each disassociative identity in your brain?
UnLike you, I compare servers. I have backups, in case one goes down.
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MrDFS ofo04g$i37$2@dont-email.me
MrDFS ofpber$tuo$2@dont-email.me
Fabian ofpj1u12bb9@news6.newsguy.com
MrDFS ofpjva$sdo$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--9.16A.Seattle.2017
Fabian ofq9ub0u2n@news4.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--1.53P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
-Dropped, 6.2 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, May 20 { 1:46 P, 2017 }: 3 WHვϱ
Why use 80 bit precision, Fabian ? !
Why use 80 bit precision, Fabian ? !
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Fabian 1016290a-d0f7-4c9c-a466-a181c6d713fb@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofo04g$i37$2@dont-email.me
MrDFS ofpber$tuo$2@dont-email.me
Fabian ofpj1u12bb9@news6.newsguy.com
MrDFS ofpjva$sdo$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--9.16A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/3|380 Top; 1.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 20 { 7:36 A, 2017 }:57^(-4) WHИv
I asked Fabian if he had a good reason to use 80 bit precision.
I asked Fabian if he had a good reason to use 80 bit precision,
seeing as he has a 64 bit computer, with 64 bit registers,
and 64 bit parallelism ( SSE ). I told him he wouldn't answer,
and he didn't.
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Fabian 1016290a-d0f7-4c9c-a466-a181c6d713fb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--4.50A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
You better have a _damn good reason to use 80 bit "long double"s, Fabian.
32 bit code puts 32 bit "float"s on the stack, using 32 bit registers,
for Parallel FloatingPoint Operations (SSE) -- and it works _damn _well.
64 bit code puts 64 bit "double"s on the stack, using 64 bit registers;
but, with a _few exceptions ( like seconds since 1970 ), it's _OverKill.
I've not heard of 80 bit stacks|registers|parallelism, have you ?
So you better have a _damn good reason to use 80 bit "long double"s, Fabian.
You don't have one, of course, so you won't reply.
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Fabian 1016290a-d0f7-4c9c-a466-a181c6d713fb@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofo04g$i37$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--9.46P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/2|378 Top; 4.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 19 { 4:51 P, 2017 }: 9^(-4) WHɶΞ
The precedence is undefined, ambiguous.
> > Calculate this quantity, using any method:
> > 333.75*b^6 + a^2*(11*a^2*b^2 - b^6 - 121*b^4 - 2) + 5.5*b^8 + a/(2*b)
> > where a = 77617.0, b = 33096.0
>
> python: -1.18059162072e+21
> Excel 2003: -1.18059162072E+21
C doesn't have an exponent operator,
so the precedence is undefined, ambiguous.
Assuming:
1. Exponents are calculated first, before multiplication.
2. C's operator precendence.
I get: -1180591620717411303424
double a = 77617, b = 33096;
// 333.75*b^6 + a^2*( 11*a^2*b^2 - b^6 - 121*b^4 - 2 ) + 5.5*b^8 + a/( 2*b )
Sh( L"%f",
333.75*pow( b, 6 ) +
pow( a, 2 )*( 11*pow( a, 2 )*pow( b, 2 ) - pow( b, 6 ) - 121*pow( b, 4 ) - 2 ) +
5.5*pow( b, 8 ) + a/( 2*b ) );
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SteveCarroll eaa1d2af-4a59-4638-a683-ffc87eb536b7@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofliu9$mde$1@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll b83464be-906b-474a-9366-7a7964722852@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofn0bv$rmo$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll bdbaad22-93d1-4fb1-9d7e-861436a54317@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofns74$7e9$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--8.58P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 6/7|378 Top; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 19 { 3:44 P, 2017 }:36^(-4) WHɫʜ
Glorb, uncensored version, is THEE ONLY server that drops nothing.
You ( MrDFS ) replied to Steve Carroll:
> > Elsewhere, I saw Relf mention that news servers sometimes change the
> > ArticleID numbers. Seems like a problem down the road for what we're
> > doing. Is it?
>
> I've never seen that, but he looks at more servers than I do.
Stick around, you'll see it; EternalSep has done it _many times.
When a server is down or slow, I switch servers on the fly,
and I don't have to reset the NewsGroup.
[ CtrlClick to use the alternate server ]
I keep track of the most recent 9 MessageIDs ( a.k.a. "BookMarks" ).
It's tricky when one of them doesn't match, server vs. server,
but interesting, because it tells me who drops what, and why.
> In my testing, Blocknews has pretty much sequential data,
> except for a few which I assume are cancellations.
UnLike EternalSep, BlockNews rejects cancellation requests.
Different servers drop different posts, depending on their policies.
Glorb, uncensored version, is THEE ONLY server that drops nothing.
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SteveCarroll b0e71a21-0c96-4a3a-9184-4e8d625fa44a@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofb5ru$ahn$3@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll 145c7486-be5b-436e-ac91-caf938993f54@googlegroups.com
MrDFS offefq$tvn$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll 2ed87414-82dc-4cfe-b69b-c2ef84f35f17@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ofhhlq$ln4$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--4.24A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 13/34|380 Top; 1.7 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 17 { 6: 6 A, 2017 }:59^(-4) WFϹx
It takes me 8 Seconds to Download 999 articles ( full header and body ).
Mr. DFS wrote:
> [ Downloading ] 1000 bodies [ takes me ] 333 seconds (5.5 minutes).
It takes me 8 Seconds to Download 999 articles ( full header and body ).
" Ping Glorb.COM " takes 101 MiliSeconds.
Internet Speed Test: 13 MegaBits/Sec down, 3 up. No data cap.
Downloading 999 articles takes ( in Seconds ):
8 Glorb.COM
10 Individual.NET
14 MB-Net.NET
19 BlockNews.NET
31 AstraWeb.COM
40 CheapNews.EU
47 Usenet.Farm
52 BulkNews.EU
80 TweakNews.EU
My newsreader ( Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM ) pipelines 100 "Article" commands
at at time, like this:
Article 1
Article 2
Article 3
[ ..... ]
Article 100
My receive buffer is 4 MegaBytes; so _One call to recv() is
enough to capture the _entire article ( one was 232 KiloBytes ).
P.S. Eternal-September.ORG has changed its Article Numbers many times;
so I only store MessageID's, not Article Numbers.
Because I don't use Article Numbers,
I switch servers on the fly, without having to reset a newsgroup,
which is handy when a server goes down.
I keep track of the last 9 MessageIDs.
If all 9 don't match, server vs. server,
my newsreader tells me which MessageID(s) should be deleted
( or added ) to the list -- so I know which servers drop what and why.
Few know that, not like I do.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpsGQSaP27g&google_comment_id=z135g505smuninjwc04cjd5papfxe3gw3kg0k
Feminists would be less angry if they'd consider
how careless they've been with their hearts.
Taylor Swift is no wilting feminist, John Mayer is no MRA.
There was _something _like drunk sex, Ms Lemmon; Emma sings:
" I’m too weak to be cold and the story’s getting old.
I get too drunk and bear my soul. [...]
Finders keepers, Losers weepers.
I cried and I cried when you went home that night. "
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ChrisAhlstrom ofa5c5$2m8$2@dont-email.me
MrDFS ofb5no$ahn$1@dont-email.me
AndrzejMatuch nmkSA.27266$Cj6.23934@fx23.iad
RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ofdkrs$45u$1@dont-email.me
AndrzejMatuch b8CSA.149689$Qa2.146243@fx10.iad
MrDFS ofg3rk$94m$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--1.22A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 10/34|380 Top; 2.3 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 16 { 5: 7 P, 2017 }:52^(-4) WFɹɰ
Avoiding injuries is part of the ( complex ) game.
NFL football, mostly Seattle SeaHawks, is the only sport I'll watch.
The players change a lot, so management is a huge factor, LongTerm.
Avoiding injuries is part of the ( complex ) game.
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TakuyaSaitoh 71a6c1f0-7bd9-4f90-b297-5714d157bb08@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--6.19P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╳ 60/99 Top; 1.1 Weeks, GoogleG, 185.100.86.100, May 8 { 4:59 P, 2017 }:17^(PDT) W9ჵы
Does John Gohde hate women ?
Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> Why Gohde hates women and lives alone in a shack:
> [ Broken Link: ] http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3520130/pg1
Does John Gohde hate women ?
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EdProchak 6f12fdcc-b19e-4a31-a72c-c5d26f942f54@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--9.21A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/3|95 Top; 18.6 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, May 15 { :41 P, 2017 }:56^(PDT) WEΦჲ
" FCGEN - Fuel Cell Based Power Generation ", April 19, 2017.
Quoting " FCGEN - Fuel Cell Based Power Generation ", April 19, 2017.
https://www.researchgate.net/project/FCGEN-Fuel-Cell-Based-Power-Generation
To extract the hydrogen, which is needed for the fuel
cell, out of the Diesel, the Diesel fuel in the tank
is converted into a hydrogen-rich gas by autothermal reforming.
[ ... ]
The resulting gas is primarily composed of hydrogen,
carbon dioxide and steam of which the hydrogen is processed
in the fuel cell to generate electricity.
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Yousuf_Khan│bbbl67@spammenot_ nv-dneQCCMpCyIvEnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com
EdProchak c8aaac83-108c-49eb-80dd-eb798887048c@googlegroups.com
. Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.26P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.31P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 16/16|99 Top; 16.2 Hours, GoogleG, 98.21.65.38, May 12 { 9:29 P, 2017 }:39^(PDT) WCЪს
Stephen Hawking and Alan Guth are wrong.
String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, epicycles, repackaged.
"Inflation" is not a model; it doesn't predict the known Universe;
instead, it spews a multimess/multiverse of random notions.
Quoting Ijjas+Steinhardt+Loeb's reply to Stephen Hawking and Alan Guth:
http://physics.princeton.edu/~cosmo/sciam/index.html#faq
the so-called well-defined examples are being set by the authors
after the fact – that is, after the observations have been made.
-----
Humanity is just another way to consume exergy, like the stars.
And there are many paths to follow; Science _Fiction is very profitable.
We get mad when our paths cross, like road rage,
but there's nothing anyone can do about it, nature programmed us.
P.S. Men are like dogs; don't _hate them just because
they "pee" (cum) everywhere; you have to teach them;
or, more likely, fence them in a bit.
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. o9pkpg$f03$1@dont-email.me
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--0.11P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS of2192$6mj$1@dont-email.me
AndrzejMatuch YQhRA.3210$7j4.2707@fx22.iad
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.12--5.49A.Seattle.2017
AndrzejMatuch bFkRA.72322$MW5.41520@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.12--5.54P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/11|145 Cool; 6.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, May 12 { 8:37 A, 2017 }:43^(-4) WCʜɧ
Women hate "you" ( a man ) _more than you hate them.
You ( Andrzej Matuch ) replied to me:
> > Looking at your book:
> > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ImhM%2BcmCL.jpg
> >
> > I have to ask, how could "infidelity" make one a man ?
>
> He becomes a man because he realizes that women are unstable.
> The moment a boy realizes that the other gender is unstable,
> manipulative and unaccountable, he becomes a man. Whoo.
Women hate "you" ( a man ) _more than you hate them.
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. 0524ea4b-0e86-4a98-90ec-3364fede56a2@googlegroups.com
. o9pkpg$f03$1@dont-email.me
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--0.11P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS of2192$6mj$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--9.56P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS of4u76$ank$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.12--3.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/13|386 Top; 4.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 12 { 11:20 A, 2017 }:40^(-4) WCΘʠ
I'm quite sober; so, likely, I won't die of an accident.
You (DFS) replied to me:
> > I weigh 235 lbs, 6ft.
>
> 12 years ago you said you were 166.
> You've really put on nearly 70 lbs since then?
Yes. 160 lbs is _hard for me, it takes a _strict diet.
I'll die 10 to 20 years sooner, because I'm a fat smoker.
But I'm quite sober; so, likely, I won't die of an accident.
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. o9pfof$qsl$3@dont-email.me
. 0524ea4b-0e86-4a98-90ec-3364fede56a2@googlegroups.com
. o9pkpg$f03$1@dont-email.me
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--0.11P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS of2192$6mj$1@dont-email.me
AndrzejMatuch YQhRA.3210$7j4.2707@fx22.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.12--5.49A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|142 Cool; 1.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, May 12 { 5:25 A, 2017 }:29^(-4) WCɼə
Andrzej Matuch.
I think a friend, or a friend of a friend,
is taking your money, Andrzej Matuch, not malware.
Looking at your book:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ImhM%2BcmCL.jpg
I have to ask, how could "infidelity" make one a man ?
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PeterKöhlmann o9p5sd$kle$3@dont-email.me
MrDFS o9pfof$qsl$3@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll 0524ea4b-0e86-4a98-90ec-3364fede56a2@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o9pkpg$f03$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--0.11P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS of2192$6mj$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--9.56P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
+Top, 9.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, May 11 { 8:54 A, 2017 }:26^(-4) WBХQ
Chief IceCream Eater.
> > Scott Doty has the coolest job, and the best hardware.
>
> I'm not sure Bloaty even works at Sonic anymore.
> He's listed as co-founder and CIE ( Chief Information Executive? ).
Chief IceCream Eater.
I weigh 235 lbs, 6ft, so I shouldn't say anything.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--2.33A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
Next year, the kilogram may redefined as the energy of a photon.
Next year, the kilogram may redefined as the energy of a photon.
Quoting
" NIST-4 watt balance weighs in on Planck's constant ", Jun 29, 2016
PhysicsWorld.COM/cws/article/news/2016/jun/29/nist-4-watt-balance-weighs-in-on-plancks-constant
[ the standard kilogram ] has slowly been losing some of its mass
due to its surface reacting chemically with the air
[...]
For the 2018 redefinition [ of the kilogram ] to go forward,
at least three experiments must produce values with a relative
standard uncertainty of no more than 50 parts per billion,
and one with no more than 20 parts per billion.
[...]
[ and it must agree ] with the value calculated using
the alternative "Avogadro" method, which measures h by
counting the atoms in an ultra-pure sphere of silicon.
[...]
The data from [ NIST-4's ] latest measurement values the h at
6.626,069,83 × 10^–34 [ Joules × Seconds ], with an uncertainty of
±22 in the last two digits [ i.e. 34 parts per billion ].
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MichaelMoroney oeoj1o$6dg$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--9.14P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 5910f1ff$0$34629$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.8--10.48P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney oesr2g$mcj$3@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.10P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.27P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╳ 1/1|52 Top; 12.8 Minutes, X.HTM, MB-NET.NET➤Open-News-Network.ORG, Comcast.NET➤67.170.105.30, May 9 { 2:10 P, 2017 }:11^(Seattle) WAμϹ
CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard.
Make that:
CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard.
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Owl azv803.ahu@rooftop.invalid
MichaelMoroney oeoj1o$6dg$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--9.14P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 5910f1ff$0$34629$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.8--10.48P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney oesr2g$mcj$3@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.10P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|4 Dropped; 3.3 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, May 9 { 9:34 A, 2017 }:24 WAʥЖ
Games are more enjoyable when you don't need a keyboard|controller.
You ( Michael Moroney ) replied ( to me ):
> > Now, the ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons
> > are shown in the upper right corner of:
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
>
> It really does look like a 2 button mouse
> with a right button added as an afterthought.
No, it's not, I assure you. I pick up the mouse and move it 4K pixels,
even as my Wrist/Palm rests on the mouse pad, because:
My Thumb holds the left side of the mouse, brushing the pad.
My Pinky holds the right side of the mouse, brushing the pad.
My Ring Finger rests on the (BigAss) gShfit button.
I use _all of the 39 buttons, in _many apps, everyday, all day;
not one button is wasted. It's Muscle Memory now.
I'm a programmer but gamers enjoy it too;
games are more enjoyable when you don't need a keyboard|controller.
Ideally, you'd map the game's keys to the ones on the mouse.
> Does it even have Linux drivers or is it a Windows gamers only thing
> that looks like a generic mouse to Linux ?
The g600 mouse is Windows only, no Mac or Linux drivers.
I use complex Lua scripts to do things Mac/Linux hasn't imagined; to wit:
CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard.
gShift Middle(Wheel)Click to answer the phone.
gShift RightClick to inspect an HTML element in the DOM editor.
gShift LeftClick to move a post to the Clipboard ( from VisualStudio2017 ).
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Owl avkzcv93.ay@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--3.23P.Seattle.2017
Owl azv803.ahu@rooftop.invalid
MichaelMoroney oeoj1o$6dg$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--9.14P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 5910f1ff$0$34629$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.8--10.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|343 Dropped; 7.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM, May 8 { 3:32 P, 2017 }:27^(-4) W9ყʓ
The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons.
BenJ acoby wrote:
> > I started using 3 button mice back in 1982 and never looked back.
> > ( Lilith, a Modula2 engine; graphics, laser printer, etc. )
> >
> > If you're not into mice, and you can't be bothered to configure it,
> > then you're nothing like me, period.
>
> Anyone who cannot see an imaginary third button in
> the middle of the mouse is nothing like you, Rolf.
Now, the ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons
are shown in the upper right corner of:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.8--9.11P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
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American Cheese Slices in baloney.
Mr. DFS suggested:
> 1 soda cracker (Sunshine Krispy the best, Zesta next best)
> 1 cheese (block or sliced American)
> 1 bread & butter pickle (vlasic Farmer's Garden, or any good b&b)
Try wrapping American Cheese Slices in baloney.
Munchies Jalapeno Sandwich Crackers:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Munchies.Jalapeno.Sandwich.Crackers.PNG
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Munchies-Jalapeno-Cheddar-Sandwich-Crackers-1.38-oz-8-count/21289061
Also:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Chef-Boyardee-Mini-Beef-Ravioli-In-Tomato-Meat-Sauce-4pk/15610743
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Malt-O-Meal-Frosted-Flakes-Cereal-40.5-oz/19514902
Lowest Cost, Easiest Delivery,
Free shipping, and No Tax ( in Washington State ).
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Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
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Ben Jacoby is against this Ed Sheeran video, but for stands _Nothing.
You ( Ben Jacoby ) wrote:
> > > > " Thinking Out Loud " by Ed Sheeran, 1.6 billion views.
> > > > 6.4 million "Likes", 250 thousand "DisLikes".
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-EO5I60KA
> >
> > What do you have that's better than Ed Sheeran in this video ?
> > How many billions of views and millions of Likes did it get ?
>
> [ Nothing ]
> [ I WAS there when Moon Dog invented Rock and Roll ! ]
So you're a senile old codger who's against this Ed Sheeran video
and "me" ( the strawman you've imagined ) and you stand for _Nothing.
Got it.
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Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Epicycles from The String Theory Guys, on YouTube.
Ed Prochak asked:
> Could you tell me who is still using epicycles today?
The String Theory Guys, on YouTube.
> Currently accepted theories carry weight Because
> they have been tested with known facts.
Or, failing that, because it makes one watch YouTube adverts.
SciFi sells; science per se, not so much.
> for part B of your comment to dismiss an idea
> "based upon establishment belief",
One must know the state of the art,
-- as Einstein did, and Ben Jacoby can't --
before one can improve on it.
> " There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now,
> All that remains is more and more precise measurement. "
> -- Lord Kelvin
Kelvin was right; Einstein was more precise than Newton;
and so it goes, on and on.
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Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
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gShift Middle(Wheel)Click answers the phone no matter if the monitor is Off|On.
> > The 39 buttons ( and the Lua Script ):
> >
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
>
> If I understand that correctly you have it set
> largely for your Usenet client. Is that the case?
I have _many apps that use the 39 buttons, not just "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM".
gShift Middle(Wheel)Click answers the phone no matter if the monitor is Off|On,
no matter what app might be running ( or not ).
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My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse.
> > > https://assets.logitech.com/assets/47823/2/g600-gaming-mouse-images.png
>
> The Logitech photo almost looks like a 2 button mouse+wheel,
> with the rightmost button an afterthought for the pinky.
No ! The pinky rests on the mouse pad, as does the thumb.
At times, my hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse.
That leaves the three inner fingers ( pointer, middle, ring )
for the Left/Middle/Right clicking ( thee three _BIG buttons ).
The third one defaults to gShift, but you can make it RightClick.
I started using 3 button mice back in 1982 and never looked back.
( Lilith, a Modula2 engine; graphics, laser printer, etc. )
If you're not into mice, and you can't be bothered to configure it,
then you're nothing like me, period.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--9.01P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
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Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy.
> > > > https://assets.logitech.com/assets/47823/2/g600-gaming-mouse-images.png
>
> Though the one with the keyboard on the side is just odd to me. Cannot
> imagine there is much demand for that, either.
Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy.
And it's $40, cheap. g600.
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$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ?
> > I programmed ( and use ) every single one of the 39 buttons,
> > all day, everyday... not one of them doesn't get used a lot.
>
> Curious to see that list!
The 39 buttons ( and the Lua Script ):
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
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$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ?
> I don't know why Logitech doesn't just go ahead and put out
> a reasonably priced ($10) 3-button + wheel mouse.
> The would sell a boatload of them to Linux users.
$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ?
I programmed ( and use ) every single one of the 39 buttons,
all day, everyday... not one of them doesn't get used a lot.
Most of the time, I don't use the keyboard at all.
Often, I use a virtual keyboard instead.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--3.43P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
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Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore.
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 8:53:38 AM UTC-4, Enes Richard wrote:
> > In Reality there are no massive points and objects of infinite density.
>
> You know this becasue_________________________
> (please fill in the blank)
The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle rules out genuine "black holes".
Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore.
You can't travel to the past -- Hawking believes in MultiVerses, I don't.
Quoting Scientific American's "Portrait of a Black Hole", May 21, 2013
ScientificAmerican.COM/article/portrait-of-a-black-hole-extreme-physics-special/
＜＜
we do not even know for certain
whether black holes really exist.
Astronomers have detected objects in the sky that are
sufficiently massive and compact that,
if Einstein's general theory of relativity is correct,
[[ -- and "vacuum polarization" doesn't occur -- ]]
they must be black holes, and it is customary to talk of them
as if they were (as we do in this article). ＞＞
Quoting WikiPedia's "Black Star, SemiClassical Gravity"
WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29
＜＜
A black star is a gravitational object composed of matter.
It is a theoretical alternative to
the black hole concept from general relativity.
[....]
A black star need not have an event horizon,
and may or may not be a transitional phase between
a collapsing star and a singularity.
A black star is created when matter compresses
at a rate significantly less than the freefall velocity of
a hypothetical particle falling to the center of its star,
because quantum processes create vacuum polarization,
which creates a form of degeneracy pressure,
preventing spacetime (and the particles held within it)
from occupying the same space at the same time.
This vacuum energy is theoretically unlimited,
and if built up quickly enough,
will stop gravitational collapse from creating a singularity.
This may entail an ever-decreasing rate of collapse,
leading to an infinite collapse time,
or asymptotically approaching a radius less than zero.
[....]
It will appear almost exactly like a black hole.
[....]
Temperatures increase with depth towards the centre. ＞＞
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--1.52P.Seattle.2017
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Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel.
Michael Glasser,
The g600 will switch, depending on the app, but I don't do that.
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The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers.
> > The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel:
> >
> > Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button.
> > Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way )
> > Ring Finder on RightClick ( again, if you set it that way ).
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>
> Really? Where is the middle button? One of those chicklet
> buttons? Sorry, that's a FAIL.
There's 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers.
My thumb and pinky are on the mouse pad.
It super easy to set them to do whatever, and/or nothing.
Look at my photo ( Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG ) and/or see:
https://assets.logitech.com/assets/47823/2/g600-gaming-mouse-images.png
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--1.52P.Seattle.2017
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The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel.
> > My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons:
> >
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
>
> I want a traditional 3-button mouse which also has a wheel.
The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel:
Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button.
Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way )
Ring Finder on RighClick ( again, if you set it that way ).
You can set the other buttons to do nothing, if you want.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.7--1.52P.Seattle.2017
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My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons.
My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
My Logitech g110 keyboard has 12 LuaScript programmable buttons
on the left side ( I don't like detached LeftOfKeyBoard devices ):
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g110.JPG
My Logitech g440 mouse pad has a low friction, hard polymer surface,
LabTested to maximize mouse sensor accuracy and performance;
the rubber base keeps it solidly in place ( it doesn't move ).
My $35 dollar monitor arm swings my 4K IPS monitor over my bed.
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6.4 million "Likes", 250 thousand "DisLikes".
You ( Ben Jacoby ) replied ( to me ):
> > " Thinking Out Loud " by Ed Sheeran, 1.6 billion views.
> > 6.4 million "Likes", 250 thousand "DisLikes".
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-EO5I60KA
>
> I have actually performed "professionally" on stage many times
> not only as a dancer but as a musician ( I play bass or drums ).
What do you have that's better than Ed Sheeran in this video ?
How many billions of views and millions of Likes did it get ?
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Ben Jacoby is a straight male dancer ?
You ( Ben Jacoby ) replied ( to me ):
> > " Thinking Out Loud " by Ed Sheeran, 1.6 billion views.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-EO5I60KA
>
> Clomping around the floor and standing there like a post is not dancing.
> Maybe it fools ignorant teens or the basement set like you but it does
> not fool us dancers.
You're a straight male dancer ? !
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Is Ben Jacoby gay ?
You ( Ben Jacoby ) replied ( to me ):
> > " Thinking Out Loud " by Ed Sheeran, 1.6 billion views.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-EO5I60KA
>
> Point of order: Pretty boy nerd Ed; needs to learn how to dance as well
> as the babe in the video does. Standing there like a post while she
> jumps around you is... crap!
Are you gay ?
Only _gay men dance like the lady does, and Ed Sheeran isn't gay.
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Praise Gay Sluts.
Someone wrote:
> Disgusting liberal science:
> " My Sex Junk " by Rachel Bloom on " Bill Nye Saves The World "
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8
If you don't want a population explosion,
then, yes, praise gay sluts.
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North Korea is a pawn.
North Korea is a pawn.
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Only results matter, not what language was used.
Only results matter, not what language was used.
All the same, this is true: C/C++ apps are better.
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" Thinking Out Loud " by Ed Sheeran, 1.6 billion views.
Mr. DFS mentioned: "Crazy On You" by Heart.
Check this out:
" Thinking Out Loud " by Ed Sheeran, 1.6 billion views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-EO5I60KA
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HughHuntzinger 272221b9-24ff-4bc1-a877-f15ef1a26a6f@googlegroups.com
Fabian oe9tqj017qp@news7.newsguy.com
HughHuntzinger 17b706fe-3b45-49f3-8a60-5512ded55725@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--10.20A.Seattle.2017
HughHuntzinger f455ab97-285d-4dd2-ac58-d7249c62a1b3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--2.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|48 Top; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18, May 3 { :43 P, 2017 }:42^(PDT) W6Χɦ
MerriamWebster is crap.
MerriamWebster is crap; it doesn't know Unix, much less Linux.
Therefore, use:
UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term=Unix
Google.COM/search?q=define:Unix
Dictionary.COM/browse/Unix
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Archimedes_Plutonium│plutonium_ 9c88a28d-3c4b-4441-85c9-5058f6022dd6@googlegroups.com
EdProchak 7754a82d-c163-4177-8da8-e46a7415adf3@googlegroups.com
Archimedes_Plutonium│plutonium_ 5cacf794-8f37-4949-b250-d308e5c11dad@googlegroups.com
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--2.19P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
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Usenet is the best way to communicate.
Usenet is the best way to communicate, I think,
because _every post remains, uncensored, for decades;
and you can filter/sort them six ways to hell and back.
My posts to Usenet ( since Feb 2012 ): Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT .
Who's posts I read first: Jeff-Relf.Me/Phy_Regs.HTM
Jeff-Relf.Me/Cola_Regs.HTM
Humanity is just another way to consume exergy, like the stars.
And there are many paths to follow; Science _Fiction is very profitable.
We get mad when our paths cross, like road rage,
but there's nothing anyone can do about it, nature programmed us.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny dr6dnWsHaqLUi5vEnZ2dnUU7-UvNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oe7vf1$gqe$6@dont-email.me
HughHuntzinger 272221b9-24ff-4bc1-a877-f15ef1a26a6f@googlegroups.com
Fabian oe9tqj017qp@news7.newsguy.com
HughHuntzinger 17b706fe-3b45-49f3-8a60-5512ded55725@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--10.20A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|47 Top; 19.1 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18, May 2 { 2:32 P, 2017 }:57^(PDT) W5ოΒ
sheeple
Much like Hugh Huntzinger himself, MerriamWebster only knows about cars,
e.g. "Jeep" and "Chrysler", not "Microsoft", Apple, Unix and Linux.
Merriam-Webster.COM/dictionary/Unix
Better to use:
Dictionary.COM/browse/Microsoft
Google.COM/search?q=define:Microsoft
UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term=Microsoft
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MrDFS odl8kb$9a6$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@May.2--3.03A.Seattle.2017
Michael_Bäuerle│michael_ AABZCIJTEQoAAAiC.A1.flnews@WStation5.stz-e.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.2--10.18A.Seattle.2017
➤News.Software.Readers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|1 Shifty; 3.7 Hours, flnews/0_15pre17, Individual.NET, May 2 { 5:57 A, 2017 }:55^(2) W5Ϸϛ
You _MUST ReCreate the SubThread.
Michael_Bäuerle wrote:
> > Only the parent MessageID is required/needed; to wit:
> > <350fd608-6a99-4c90-a027-9bb88b41814a@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > My newsreader uses the parent MessageID to rebuild the SubThread,
> > jumping from header to header, using _nothing but the parent MessageID.
>
> ... but it is nevertheless not allowed to remove the first Message-ID.
> This is defined in RFC5537:
>
The original post might be years old and, therefore, not on the server.
Also, some "References:" lines only list the parent MessageID;
and, sometimes, the other MessageIDs are bogus and/or out of order.
So you _MUST ReCreate the SubThread like I do ( described above ).
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MrDFS odl8kb$9a6$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.2--3.03A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers
╱ 3/98|351 Top; 1.1 Weeks, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 24 { 9:24 A, 2017 }: 8^(-4) W0ʤ8
Only the parent MessageID is required/needed.
A week ago, you (DFS) told me:
> References:
> <00f318d5-5e8c-4106-8e9d-cc5820c95980@googlegroups.com>
> <263e1724-af1a-4467-8312-539861712e52@googlegroups.com>
> <45c52f51-c6dd-4fc6-9979-b3777cf9c194@googlegroups.com>
>
> <350fd608-6a99-4c90-a027-9bb88b41814a@googlegroups.com>
>
> The first reference should be
> 1 <79cd3baa-0d75-40bf-bfa4-13519615379e@googlegroups.com>
> then
> 2
> 3 <00f318d5-5e8c-4106-8e9d-cc5820c95980@googlegroups.com>
> 4 <263e1724-af1a-4467-8312-539861712e52@googlegroups.com>
> 5 <45c52f51-c6dd-4fc6-9979-b3777cf9c194@googlegroups.com>
> 6
> 7 <350fd608-6a99-4c90-a027-9bb88b41814a@googlegroups.com>
Only the parent MessageID is required/needed; to wit:
<350fd608-6a99-4c90-a027-9bb88b41814a@googlegroups.com>
My newsreader uses the parent MessageID to rebuild the thread,
jumping from header to header, using _nothing but the parent MessageID.
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JohnGohde 76358e4f-1a5b-48ff-ad46-84f331f68efc@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh b71fa0c6-fd7a-4abd-ba7a-08ff18588dea@googlegroups.com
lik│lik@lik_invalid szhv803.v8@lik.invalid
TakuyaSaitoh e7dfb045-cd90-499f-9b0e-6687f9e0db1b@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.30--11.48P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 15cbcbe9-9f50-44ae-810d-f687bc5eaeaf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--11.27A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|89 Top; 3.3 Hours, GoogleG, 209.222.77.220, May 1 { 5:52 A, 2017 }:27^(PDT) W58Й
Kim Jong-un is a crappy yakuza boss; someone should change his diapers.
Takuya Saitoh wrote something like:
> Ordinary North Koreans are prisoners;
> but maybe they're happy, as they've never seen anything better.
Kim Jong-un is a crappy yakuza boss; someone should change his diapers.
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JohnGohde 76358e4f-1a5b-48ff-ad46-84f331f68efc@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh b71fa0c6-fd7a-4abd-ba7a-08ff18588dea@googlegroups.com
lik│lik@lik_invalid szhv803.v8@lik.invalid
TakuyaSaitoh e7dfb045-cd90-499f-9b0e-6687f9e0db1b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.30--11.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 18/18|86 Top; 53.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 185.104.120.2, Apr 30 { 10:18 P, 2017 }:47^(PDT) W4гl
The rich (Japan) are innocent, the poor (North Korea) are guilty.
The rich (Japan) are innocent, the poor (North Korea) are guilty.
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Juha_Nieminen│nospam@thanks_ obvd94$21u7$1@adenine.netfront.net
Jerry_Stuckle│jstucklex oc05jg$p5m$1@jstuckle.eternal-september.org
Jerry_Stuckle│jstucklex oc05mv$p5m$2@jstuckle.eternal-september.org
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.47A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS XxqLA.98368$5a6.10936@fx29.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.24--11.40A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/6|335 Top; 8.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Apr 24 { 10:25 A, 2017 }:58^(-4) W0ʮɶ
Printing a calander.
I see your Python code for adding dates, Mr. DFS; to wit:
start = datetime.strptime( sys.argv[2], '%Y-%m-%d' ).date()
start.weekday()
When I hit "Cal" ( on my ToolBar, X.EXE ) I get:
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24* 25 26 27 28 29 30
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
Mon Tue Wed Thr Fri Sat Sun-- 11:40 A -- 15
Today, the 24th of April, is asterisked.
The code:
int DaysBack ; u64 s, nowAge ; LnP B = _B_Sh, D = B ; tm *Cal ;
s = nowAge = time(0), Cal = SecToCalendar( s ), DaysBack = 14 ;
// Go back more than 14 days, to start on a Monday.
DaysBack += !Cal->tm_wday ? 6 : Cal->tm_wday - 1 ;
s -= DaysBack * 24*60*60 ;
{ LoopJ(7*7)
Cal = SecToCalendar( s ), D += Str( D, L"%2d%c%s", Cal->tm_mday,
s == nowAge ? '*' : 32, ( J % 7 ) == 6 ? L"\n" : L" " ),
s += 24*60*60 ; }
D += Str( D, L"Mon Tue Wed Thr Fri Sat Sun" );
D += Str( D, L"-- %d:%02d %c -- %02d\n",
Hour, Min, PM ? 'P': 'A', Sec ), Sh( B );
Globals:
// : time_t, time(), localtime(), tm, and _wasctime().
// Hour, Min, PM, and Sec came from _wasctime(); code not shown.
// Sh() is like printf().
#define Str swprintf
#define SecToCalendar( S ) localtime( ( time_t * ) &S )
#define LoopJ( N ) int J = -1, eJ = (N) - 1 ; while ( ++J <= eJ )
typedef unsigned __int64 u64 ; typedef wchar *LnP ;
LnP _B_Sh ; // 4 MegaByte scratch buffer.
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James_Wilkinson_Sword│imvalid op.yyq0ww03js98qf@red.lan
MichaelGlasser D517EC19.9F314%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
James_Wilkinson_Sword│imvalid op.yy3xg2kajs98qf@red.lan
Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid rMNKA.6920$7Y5.5504@fx13.iad
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.22--2.42P.Seattle.2017
Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid 7D6LA.23054$wc5.3302@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.23--0.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Sys.Mac.System, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Cellular-Phone-Tech
╳ 1/3|84 Cool; 22.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Apr 23 { 11:45 A, 2017 }:23^(-5) Vჵсδ
We perceive R:157, G:89, and B:255 as equally bright.
Mark Lloyd wrote:
> > W3C/WCAG 2.0 Relative Luminance ( perceived ): ....
>
> I intend to try this. Maybe it'll work better than the simple formula.
Mainly, it's used to check the contrast ratio, Foreground vs. Background.
Curiously, we perceive R:157, G:89, and B:255 as equally bright.
inline float Sqr( float R ) {
return R <= .04045 ? R / 12.92 : pow( ( R + .055 ) / 1.055, 2.4 ); }
// v = .212655*Sqr( R ) + .715158*Sqr( G ) + .072187*Sqr( B );
// Bright = v <= .0031308 ? v*12.92 : 1.055*pow( v, 1/2.4 ) - .055 ;
// Brightness is 0..1
printf( L"%f, %f, %f",
.212655*Sqr( 157/255. ), .715158*Sqr( 89/255. ), .072187*Sqr( 1 ) );
// Output: .071700, .071443, .072187
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MichaelGlasser D512F0E6.9EA04%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
James_Wilkinson_Sword│imvalid op.yyq0ww03js98qf@red.lan
MichaelGlasser D517EC19.9F314%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
James_Wilkinson_Sword│imvalid op.yy3xg2kajs98qf@red.lan
Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid rMNKA.6920$7Y5.5504@fx13.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.22--2.42P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Sys.Mac.System, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Cellular-Phone-Tech
╱ 1/3|81 Cool; 23.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Apr 22 { : 1 P, 2017 }:42^(-5) Vჵȼɦ
W3C/WCAG 2.0 Relative Luminance ( perceived ).
Mark Lloyd wrote:
> Also, I use this formula to find the brightness of a RGB color:
> brightness = red * .299 + green * .587 + blue * .114
// W3C/WCAG 2.0 Relative Luminance ( perceived ):
Float g ; // g == Gamma == PerceivedBrightness, 0 to 1.
g = .212655*gInv( R ) + .715158*gInv( G ) + .072187*gInv( B );
g = g <= .0031308 ? g*12.92 : 1.055*pow( g, 1/2.4 ) - .055 ;
Global:
// gInv() == InverseGamma.
inline float gInv( float R ) {
R /= 100 ; // R, G, and B are floats, 0..100% -- not 0..255.
return R <= .04045 ? R / 12.92 : pow( ( R + .055 ) / 1.055, 2.4 );
}
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RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com oddsbp$ioe$2@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny eK-dnW1cnb_J5WfFnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com
RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com oddtrk$lsd$1@dont-email.me
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.21--3.14P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|463 Mad; 15 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Giganews.COM, Apr 21 { 2:51 P, 2017 }:50^(-5) Vჴσϖ
My web/eMail server, PacificHost.COM, is maintained via " Jeff-Relf.Me/cpanel ".
My web/eMail server, PacificHost.COM, is maintained via " Jeff-Relf.Me/cpanel ".
"UnLimited bandwidth, storage, subdomains, etc." costs $90 per 3 YEARS.
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MrAA 548e3dbd-9fe7-402f-ba01-941a70a3a996@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier da4205b8-5fea-4cfd-8a7e-ec58f1ef37f4@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 946c7c38-fb0a-4916-a6cc-1b0625bf199d@googlegroups.com
JimPennino uekksd-gdk.ln1@mail.specsol.com
HerbertGlazier 45450e8f-676b-4299-b643-f15091f425d4@googlegroups.com
MrAA c1bc5095-f168-4191-adf4-91937c8fb1c6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.21--1.14P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|102 Top; 5.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Apr 21 { 1: 6 P, 2017 }: 2^(PDT) Vჴβ2
Bert's van must get _really hot.
Herbert Glazier wrote:
> > its 91 today, and from now on I will park at Huntington Beach,
Bert's van must get _really hot.
I asked him about it, but he didn't answer.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny RJ-dneSHn9uGh2XFnZ2dnUU7-W3NnZ2d@giganews.com
SteveCarroll 265d2eb1-1993-4d54-99bc-147169c33383@googlegroups.com
MrDFS odbo0s$qtp$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.21--2.44A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|337 T; 7.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 20 { 6:45 P, 2017 }:46^(-4) VჴHϑ
Michael Glasser is on crack, I assume.
Michael Glasser is on crack, I assume.
From 9/8 to 9/11 last year, he posted 589 times in 4 days.
That's almost 150 per day, for 4 straight days, leading up to 9/11.
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JohnGohde eef3c2a2-bad0-404c-9d8f-23676009235f@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 00f318d5-5e8c-4106-8e9d-cc5820c95980@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde 263e1724-af1a-4467-8312-539861712e52@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 45c52f51-c6dd-4fc6-9979-b3777cf9c194@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde ea197a88-280e-4076-8623-99e214b49997@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 350fd608-6a99-4c90-a027-9bb88b41814a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.21--2.09A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|94 T; 6.4 Hours, GoogleG, 5.148.165.13, Apr 20 { 7:36 P, 2017 }:32^(PDT) VჴQW
Gold's Gym is a scam.
John Gohde should worry about his mental health, not longevity.
Gold's Gym is a scam; only rubes fall for it.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny rb6dnaYta97Q5WvFnZ2dnUU7-b_NnZ2d@giganews.com
Owl axcv903.aby4@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS od8v5m$s53$1@dont-email.me
Owl avz00b.3plha@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS od9fav$qhm$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.20--3.34A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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I track you tracking them.
You ( DFS ) can't handle HTML or "Subject:" line changes;
so I don't show up on your surveillance cameras.
Basically, I track you tracking them.
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MrAA 3598a097-24f9-4d4b-bfec-a743485131a7@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier c5454f74-b2b6-4028-b4b9-90e3f8b08425@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 6090544d-c9ee-410b-8cc4-557af09dd43e@googlegroups.com
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HerbertGlazier 57f72894-d302-40d9-a69f-fae91c3bf0a2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.19--7.58A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
-Dropped, 16.4 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Apr 18 { 3:25 P, 2017 }:43^(PDT) Vჲωɧ
You have to know physics before you can transform it.
You ( Herbert Glazier ) wrote:
> rEALITY IS KNOW MORE SCIENCE I knowmore science than Einstein,
> Feynman, and Fermi combine. Deserve 3 Nobels as of now.
You have to know physics before you can transform it.
From a very young age, Einstein was shockingly literate;
you are not, Herbert Glazier.
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SteveCarroll 3e9ac207-0431-4b0b-90fa-1eebaba17630@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.18--3.49P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 5d3870a6-2335-4be8-9d25-d004ced4822a@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.18--4.26P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 92e8ecac-bb1b-416a-9732-bc7da7cd2645@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.18--10.10P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|1414 D; 4.8 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 18 { 5: 7 P, 2017 }:44^(PDT) Vჲϡɨ
Microsoft would rather make standards than follow them.
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Element/innerHTML
> The native APIs are much better lately; gone are the days
> of loading jQuery for basic manipulation. Microsoft finally
> playing nice with respect to standards didn't hurt, either.
Microsoft would rather make standards than follow them but, here, it failed.
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SteveCarroll 052e9ff3-8a6f-45c8-aa89-22a5fc03f1b7@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny 0sKdnQrTld7K-GvFnZ2dnUU7-bHNnZ2d@giganews.com
SteveCarroll 3e9ac207-0431-4b0b-90fa-1eebaba17630@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.18--3.49P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 5d3870a6-2335-4be8-9d25-d004ced4822a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.18--4.26P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|1393 D; 3.7 Minutes, GoogleG, Apr 18 { 4:13 P, 2017 }:55^(PDT) VჲϘɳ
May we see the code ?
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> I didn't save it but it'd be something along the lines of:
>
> let rows = document.querySelectorAll('elementToBeSelected');
> for (let i = 0; i < rows.length; i++) {
> if(rows[i].innerHTML === 'textToBeChanged') {
> rows[i].innerHTML = 'textYouWantShown' } }
>
> Just look at the elements on the page, the above will get you there
> quickly enough. The 'querySelectorAll' method returns the elements
> you select (CSS based), which you then iterate and use the 'innerHTML'
> method on to swap out the text.
>
> The DOM elements change depending upon whether or not you're logged in,
> what view you're looking at, etc.
> Using removeChild() you can toss all the kiddie crap out before you start
> reading, a half-assed killfilter of sorts for Google Groups.
Nice, thanks.
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SteveCarroll 46808dbb-e28a-40fd-b83d-be218dd6531c@googlegroups.com
SteveCarroll 052e9ff3-8a6f-45c8-aa89-22a5fc03f1b7@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny 0sKdnQrTld7K-GvFnZ2dnUU7-bHNnZ2d@giganews.com
SteveCarroll 3e9ac207-0431-4b0b-90fa-1eebaba17630@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.18--3.49P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
-Dropped, 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 18 { 1:23 P, 2017 }:38^(PDT) Vჲδრ
May we see the code ?
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> > > > I created a new [Nym] labeling system for GG:
> > >
>
> DOM manipulation via JavaScript.
May we see the code ?
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SteveCarroll 7bce970e-8767-45c1-a546-8cdb6ab981be@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 0186793d-b19f-4ca3-bdfd-2ad9035de626@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh d34e20d5-b25d-470f-9484-ac41d943a34c@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 0dc1f84b-9069-4e4a-b7b4-e92819f26c75@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 5dbef0ef-2170-4763-a664-a5e28be0bfb1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.17--9.58P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|94 T; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, 77.247.181.165, Apr 17 { 7: 2 P, 2017 }:11^(PDT) VჲKʃ
Who will get North Korea ? China, Russia, Japan... or Yakuza ?
Who will get North Korea ? China, Russia, Japan... or Yakuza ?
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Sprang│spring@sprung_invalid ocehta$hr9$2@dont-email.me
MichaelGlasser D5101F85.9E13C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
James_Wilkinson_Sword│imvalid op.yyqrhfimjs98qf@red.lan
Sprang│spring@sprung_invalid octdgk$q3r$1@dont-email.me
James_Wilkinson_Sword│imvalid op.yyqs74d1js98qf@red.lan
HughHuntzinger 1c8e5436-e2cb-4116-b0bb-9572f88f68e7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.16--6.57P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|7 T; 50.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.41.7, Apr 16 { 5:45 P, 2017 }:13^(PDT) VჱɿΣ
OneDollar == OneVote.
Hugh Huntzinger mentioned:
> concentration of wealth in the .1%
OneDollar == OneVote; No Dollars, No Votes.
TeamObama decides what the poor will get.
TeamTrump does the same, because the poor are mute.
Woman indulge in "The Optimism Drug" ( Opiates, Religion, Communism ).
Men indulge in ( ruthless ) capitalism.
Capitalism and/or Communism, it doesn't matter;
either way, the fit thrive and idiots die.
Pick the LeastWorst option, and hope for the LeastWorst luck.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--9.16P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oct8n5$dlg$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--7.46A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS octf73$30m$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--9.34A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ocu7aa$mo9$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--9.17P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/7|383 T; 5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 15 { 3:40 P, 2017 }:11^(-4) VჰϑϹ
Mr. DFS wrapped it; see: .
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> > _you wrapped it; my editor (vs2017) has 236 Columns;
> > one click toggles wrapping on|off.
>
> I didn't wrap anything.
> I copy-pasted from the SQLite command line.
>
> Before I posted it to cola I pasted it into Notepad++
> to see what it looked like:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/iALfC
>
> And it looks the same when I copy-paste from Thunderbird.
>
> Issue with your homegrown X newsreader?
No, _you wrapped it; see:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/QbJfSNzVkXg/stCJnFxwBAAJ
> But seriously, this is the last time I answer any replies from you that
> change my Subject line. I'm sick of having to fix them every single time.
As you wish, Bye.
> > Cigs make you _more sober, not less.
>
> Cigs make you _more dead, not less.
Some people, not everyone, might've died at 70, instead of 80,
due to smoking, possibly; still:
Old Age is the _biggest killer, not (sober) smoking.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--0.20P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ocrnm0$iqu$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--9.16P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oct8n5$dlg$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--7.46A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS octf73$30m$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--9.34A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|376 T; 28.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 15 { 8:49 A, 2017 }: 3^(-4) Vჰʞȵ
Cigs make you _more sober, not less.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> Wrapped because of the line length.
> Cut-paste into an editor and you won't see wrapping.
Not true, _you wrapped it; my editor (vs2017) has 236 Columns;
one click toggles wrapping on|off.
> > > > No 2008, 2010 or 2011 posts.
> > I left because John Bailo left. He's dead now.
>
> Why would you leave just because of Bailo?
I met Bailo in "Seattle.General" and followed him to COLA.
When he left, I left. I liked him, obviously.
> He was a nutty nymshifter, apparently.
> I see 189 cola nyms with 'bailo' in them.
Yes, bigly; maybe he was trying to avoid me.
> > I'm sober, no drugs, not even caffeine; I've never been in jail.
> > Old Age is the _biggest killer, not (sober) smoking.
>
> Nicotine is a drug - harder to kick than heroin according to some.
Cigs make you _more sober, not less.
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MrDFS ocqv3o$uid$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--0.20P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ocrnm0$iqu$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--9.16P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oct8n5$dlg$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--7.46A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|374 T; 6.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 15 { 6:58 A, 2017 }:26^(-4) VჰʋИ
Old Age is the _biggest killer, not (sober) smoking.
You ( DFS ) Showed:
First Latest Qty "From:"
2003-07-05 2003-08-24 44 Jeff Relf <____Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET>
2003-08-22 2003-08-26 20 Jeff Relf <___Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET>
2003-09-03 2003-11-11 237 Jeff Relf <__.Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET>
2003-11-11 2004-10-28 2056 Jeff Relf
2004-06-16 2004-09-03 670 Jeff Relf
2004-09-04 2004-10-10 39 Jeff Relf
2004-09-10 2004-09-24 204 Jeff Relf
2004-09-24 2004-10-04 210 Jeff Relf
2004-10-04 2004-10-07 44 Jeff Relf
2004-10-07 2004-10-09 18 Jeff Relf
2004-10-09 2004-10-10 15 Jeff Relf
2004-11-01 2006-01-29 2745 Jeff_Relf
2005-03-27 2005-03-27 1 Jeff_Relf
2006-04-03 2006-04-03 2 =?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=
2006-04-04 2007-06-20 177 =?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=
2007-07-06 2007-12-28 18 =?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=98=A0Relf?=
2009-03-04 2009-03-04 1 Jeff▲Relf
2009-05-31 2009-11-25 17 _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
2010-04-02 2010-04-02 1 JeffRelf.F-M.FM @.
2010-10-19 2010-10-19 1 JeffRelf.F-M.FM · ?@.
2012-02-01 2017-03-19 10 Jeff-Relf.Me
2012-02-10 2012-03-04 18 Jeff-Relf.Me
2012-03-12 2012-06-19 46 @Jeff-Relf.Me
2012-08-30 2012-10-14 10 @@@Jeff-Relf.Me
2012-10-26 2017-03-19 598 Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>
2012-10-29 2012-10-29 1 _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
2012-10-29 2012-10-29 1 Jeff Relf
2017-03-20 2017-04-13 74 Jeff-Relf.Me @.
The post count was a nice addition, thanks !
Numbers should be right justified, of course; and don't wrap lines.
This is not me:
> 79 22344 2005-06-02 2005-06-02 2 Jeff_Relf
> > No 2008, 2010 or 2011 posts.
>
> jail?
No, I left because John Bailo left. He's dead now.
I'm sober, no drugs, not even caffeine; I've never been in jail.
Old Age is the _biggest killer, not (sober) smoking.
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MrDFS ocqv3o$uid$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--0.20P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ocrnm0$iqu$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--9.16P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/6|375 T; 2.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 14 { 5: P, 2017 }:24^(-4) Vჰ0O
My ( Jeff Relf's ) Handles.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > > Jeff Relf 2017-Mar-19
> You must've changed the email portion of your From recently.
Oops, I forgot about that, sorry; I'm "Jeff-Relf.Me @." now.
> Which of the [ following Handles ] are you?
Nice report, thanks !
"++" _should be 79; "-" and "--" should _not be 79 ( but "-" is me ).
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MrDFS ocqv3o$uid$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--0.20P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╳ 2/10|369 T; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 14 { 10: 2 A, 2017 }:20^(-4) Vჯаʌ
MrDFS _directly replied to me Mar 28th, 2017.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> If you wondered when your favorite poster was last here...
> Jeff Relf 2017-Mar-19
You _directly replied to me Mar 28th, 2017:
obdud4$68s$5@dont-email.me
I PlainText replied to you yesterday, see:
John Mayer live, in high def, 10 minutes, "Gravity".
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--8.26A.Seattle.2017
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--4.18A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
VICE's " The Mormon War on Porn: SlutEver ".
VICE's " The Mormon War on Porn: SlutEver ", Apr 12, 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PnOh5l80d8
Nature has "programmed" us to enjoy sex.
Sex without procreation is the LeastWorst option.
Like rogue terrorists, Mormons are too optimistic.
Too often, it leads to men who are forced
to pay for kids they'll never see;
-- and women being forced to welcome a _bad man
into the family ( so the state can pay less ).
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--10.24P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
Sometimes, _after working strenuously, I cough.
Sometimes, _after working strenuously, I cough;
returning to work, instead of relaxing, stops it.
Sucking on hard candy calms me down, relieving the symptoms;
i.e. sugar pills are indeed the best medicine, sometimes.
P.S. LongTerm, Earth is cooling; originally, it was molten.
Great empires require a mild climate, fire helps;
now, with air conditioning, warmer climes are doing better.
Capitalism and/or Communism, it doesn't matter;
either way, the fit thrive and idiots die.
Pick the LeastWorst option, and hope for the LeastWorst luck.
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Archimedes_Plutonium│plutonium_ 9c5b60ab-f57d-40cb-b52e-70223d9526eb@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 4437fc7e-813f-466b-859a-d5f9f38d1ac9@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton d747aecb-d586-445d-bcb7-3ab2036ebe45@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 17cf15a8-5439-474c-87ba-b568e071741f@googlegroups.com
Archimedes_Plutonium│plutonium_ 55e0b953-863f-4e88-80e1-0287a76226b2@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 2d75c93f-c8a1-4a38-8933-100a76a44262@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--8.32P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|64 A; 8.1 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Apr 13 { 11:37 A, 2017 }:35^(PDT) Vჯȸɟ
The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle rules out genuine "black holes".
The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle rules out genuine "black holes".
Stephen Hawking has shown that "black/worm holes" can't exist;
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hVac 2c0ee3b3-e88c-4fa6-a48c-5707d51aae07@googlegroups.com
MarkFergerson e09d0679-4880-4581-a417-6391b369d09e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--7.53P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|2 T; 7.3 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 13 { :21 P, 2017 }:31^(PDT) Vჯȿμ
North Korea's 5 year plan: Suicide by Cop.
North Korea's 5 year plan: Suicide by Cop.
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Owl ahzj003.bi0u@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--8.54A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 2/29|249 T; 2.8 Days, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop, Apr 10 { :42 P, 2017 }:41 VჭɅf
Mouse butttons wear out !
Owl wrote:
> I'm starting to get a lot of double-pasting with my logitech.
Mouse butttons wear out !
I've bought about 7 Logitech g600 mice,
all of which still work, but not as well as new.
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
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Owl uvz8903.ab855@rooftop.invalid
SteveCarroll fdb4d867-6f82-4a91-a38c-7a084c140e0a@googlegroups.com
Owl azjvo03.abueo3@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS oclk6n$adi$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll 5f1af492-6951-4c5f-876d-5e721895dc1c@googlegroups.com
MrDFS ocnsdr$o2q$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--8.26A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 9/12|375 T; 2.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Apr 13 { 5:58 A, 2017 }:11^(-4) Vჯ9Ϲ
John Mayer live, in high def, 10 minutes, "Gravity".
DFS wrote:
> I like John Mayer's sound.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VBex8zbDRs
John Mayer live, in high def, 10 minutes, "Gravity":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo4746XZgw8
Note, it's about avoiding relationships, not physics.
John Mayer:
Inside Wants Out 1999: Victoria
Room for Squares 2001: Great Indoors
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.12--7.26A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
SkyMaul approved.
Possible "Friendly Skies" replacements:
SkyMaul approved.
Now with "drag and drop".
Like WWE, without the tights.
We bang you, not your luggage.
More than just a TSA pat down.
Try our punch and neck braces.
We put the hospital in hospitality.
Board as a doctor, Leave as a patient.
We "accommodate" you, again and again !
Our First Class can't be beat, upgrade !
Concussion seatting on all Red Eye flights !
Flight: $1,400; Checking a bag: $25;
Getting dragged down the aisle: Priceless.
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hVac cb280a4a-8810-45b4-9873-ba491e231fd6@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58ebeb9a$0$51658$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com
hVac eb6ed9dc-613f-489b-bd1b-40535c0313f6@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58ec3362$0$51653$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com
hVac 76851966-e9a8-4f33-8c3b-99c9f7233644@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.11--6.06A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/4|238 K; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 11 { 3:37 A, 2017 }: 6^(PDT) Vჭϑȸ
You're a robot, programmed by nature to reproduce ( and die ).
> > Do dog ghosts have dicks or are they more like snoopy or pluto?
You're a robot, programmed by nature to reproduce ( and die ).
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Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com 84a3ba96-f5e3-4497-a7fc-d2dfb8e1eb03@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58ec3514$0$34524$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com 1bdc1010-933b-4512-a0f2-5d75ef48c58e@googlegroups.com
hVac 4c8248bb-49ef-4eb9-8859-50909dd4a1a7@googlegroups.com
Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com 47d33eec-a299-4235-9282-fb70cde9f298@googlegroups.com
hVac bfb3c874-83a7-40ff-a625-bf8768d135c4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.11--6.03A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 4/4|238 K; 9.9 Minutes, GoogleG, Apr 11 { 5:50 A, 2017 }:31^(PDT) Vჭ϶ʗ
Jesus was a hippy -- peace, love.
Mr. hVac opined:
> Jesus was a scapegoat, just like me.
Jesus was a hippy -- peace, love.
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Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com 2da14b60-d2c9-485a-961e-e0b09409f10e@googlegroups.com
hVac 16ff0f47-e675-479e-92cd-730f69a27735@googlegroups.com
Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com 565ef1bf-1866-4cdb-a77e-9f6677f29006@googlegroups.com
hVac cae9522f-c643-44b2-a286-17d8c3475c0b@googlegroups.com
Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com 6a5d19ff-3b37-48b4-9d09-ae56a1a1963c@googlegroups.com
hVac 8611083d-db3e-4cd2-b0cf-d30038a47977@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--0.29P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|212 K; 2.6 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 7 { 9:25 A, 2017 }:38^(PDT) Vძiɢ
Ben Jacoby needs science like a fish needs a bicycle.
You ( hVac ) replied ( to Mahipal ):
> > > My job is to oppose every single
> > > crazy thought he has and to publicly shame him.
> >
> > Your job is stalking?
> > Yet you claim to be retired hypocriteHVAC.
>
> I *am* retired. I do this as a public service
> in order to give back to those who need guidance like you.
> You're welcome btw.
No, you stalk "kooks" ( anyone who's not like you )
because it's fun, not because you're "kind and generous".
Ben Jacoby needs science like a fish needs a bicycle.
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TakuyaSaitoh 8773c2b5-0257-49a8-aa51-dd128c7695f0@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--1.14A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 14294bf2-3e64-46c6-8c0e-73509b4414ca@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--11.31A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/3|101 A; 3 Hours, GoogleG, 51.15.53.134, Apr 7 { 8: 1 A, 2017 }:19^(PDT) VძUɍ
Are Koreans cleaning up Fuku ?
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) wote:
> Only the Zion could detonate undersea nuke to trigger 311 here
> when the Jap. politicians started enriching uranium for Iran at Fuku.
You _wish it were (gentle) "Zion".
Mother Nature is your biggest threat there, in Japan;
she kills "the weakest" ( including North Koreans ).
Are Koreans cleaning up Fuku ?
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TakuyaSaitoh 76f0290b-ac2e-4d91-8d91-370c3d42ef62@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 96055156-9912-4c6d-9ca2-70da33a02c82@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--1.50A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|105 A; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 144.217.161.119, Apr 6 { 10:20 P, 2017 }:30^(PDT) Vცгʖ
America is drowning in cheap fuel, it doesn't need Iraq's bloody oil.
America is drowning in cheap fuel, it doesn't need Iraq's bloody oil.
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TakuyaSaitoh 76f0290b-ac2e-4d91-8d91-370c3d42ef62@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--1.23A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/4|105 A; 4.9 Hours, GoogleG, 75.118.237.83, Apr 6 { 6:56 P, 2017 }:46^(PDT) VცБʦ
Japan will host North Koreans, like Europe hosts Syrians.
Japan will host North Koreans, like Europe hosts Syrians.
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TakuyaSaitoh 8773c2b5-0257-49a8-aa51-dd128c7695f0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--1.14A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|105 A; 1.2 Days, GoogleG, 185.100.85.190, Apr 5 { 6:47 P, 2017 }:17^(PDT) VცHы
North Korea is a Linux Loser, living in Japan's basement.
North Korea is a Linux Loser, living in Japan's basement.
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Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ bba87611-0dd7-4521-b412-1b3bb5621190@googlegroups.com
JamesMcGinn 8746f6fd-b7de-45c9-9104-2dde0004d07f@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 78d74673-1943-41a2-962b-28320f540034@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--4.22P.Seattle.2017
JamesMcGinn f12c5abe-ba2d-4bb2-83ed-9149b08aa55e@googlegroups.com
JamesMcGinn a0e0e3e8-6502-40d7-adb0-be3dced4cf7a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--6.43P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|339 D; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, 99.64.156.69, Apr 6 { 5:16 P, 2017 }:18^(PDT) VცϰА
Moist air rises due to gravity, not electricity.
You ( James McGinn ) replied ( to me ):
> > > > > > > There are no "measured densities," you halfwit. If it was
> > > > > > > measurable we wouldn't be having this conversation.
> > >
> > > James McGinn chooses magick over physics ( gravity and entropy );
> > > it's a fairly harmless lifestyle choice; "flat earthers" are OK.
> > >
> > > Entropy dries the contents of a bottle faster when it's upright
> > > because moist air rises ( due to gravity ).
> > > Entropy and Gravity ? not God ? ! Oh no ! McGinn can't have that.
> >
> > Prove that it isn't electricity.
>
> What is taking you so long to respond, Jeff.
> Face it, you are ignorant.
What "electricity" ? ! The upside down bottle dries slower
because moist air rises ( due to gravity, not electricity ).
The earth is not flat, and chariots don't drag the sun across the sky.
I've no desire to converse with you, space cadet.
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JamesMcGinn fc798aed-fcf1-421c-ae33-14df3c731f7a@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ ed08eb35-818a-4643-8978-7301a7875e80@googlegroups.com
JamesMcGinn f65e2fd5-5d80-47cb-aa86-ef230ba63480@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ bba87611-0dd7-4521-b412-1b3bb5621190@googlegroups.com
JamesMcGinn 8746f6fd-b7de-45c9-9104-2dde0004d07f@googlegroups.com
Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 78d74673-1943-41a2-962b-28320f540034@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--4.22P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 3/12|39 A; 2.2 Days, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Apr 4 { 11:45 A, 2017 }:49^(PDT) Vჩȹϕ
James McGinn chooses magick over physics ( gravity and entropy ).
James McGinn wrote:
> > > > There are no "measured densities," you halfwit. If it was
> > > > measurable we wouldn't be having this conversation.
James McGinn chooses magick over physics ( gravity and entropy );
it's a fairly harmless lifestyle choice; "flat earthers" are OK.
Entropy dries the contents of a bottle faster when it's upright
because moist air rises ( due to gravity ).
Entropy and Gravity ? not God ? ! Oh no ! McGinn can't have that.
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How do you heat and cool it ( the van ) ?
Herbert Glazier wrote:
> > love driving.Here is a kicker At 15 I bought a car just to sleep in.
> > Now, at 89, I have been sleeping in a van for 4 years, and loving it.
> > House on wheels means you can pick the location.
> > You can't beat that. It saves big bucks.
>
> Drive everywhere even in my dreams.
>
> Shop at my backyard and that's Walmart.
> Eat at Walmart, for they have great chicken, and delli.
> Shit at Walmart because they have very clean rest rooms and open 7-24.
>
> I have great security at the Anaheim Plaza.
> Police all know my van, and me.
>
> Walley, the walmart detective, and I are best friends.
> In all, I have about 100 good friends at the Plaza.
> We have a breakfast club at McDonalds which is as you come into Walmart.
>
> 3 years living there, in my Van... WOW.
> It's been fun and I saved big $$$$$$, enough to by a $50,000 car.
>
> Reality is I would not ever sell my Van. I love it.
> Plus its only 24 years young.
You moved from Disney World to Disney Land;
so M&M is for Mickey Mouse too, apparently.
How do you heat and cool it ( the van ) ?
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Seattle has far too many "social justice warriors" ( anarchists ).
You ( Andrzej Matuch ) replied ( to me ):
> > Seattle has far too many "social justice warriors" ( anarchists )
> > who think the world owes them everything, no matter how badly they act.
> > Trump supporters are hoping to correct that.
>
> The most effective way to correct the bad behaviour of hippies
> is for their parents to demand rent.
Then they're someone else's problem, maybe yours.
" Washington Man Faces Possible Murder Charge
for Shooting Showering Intruder ", Apr 5 2017:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/self-defense-washington-man-faces-possible-murder-charge-shooting-showering-n742646
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Why so vague ?
You ( Marek_Novotny ) replied ( to me ):
> > What do you do, professionally ?
>
> It varies. This and that.
Why so vague ?
I manage a 32 unit rooming house and I'm a Visual C++ programmer for
"The Bankers" ( ABA.COM ), maintaining "community banking" simulations.
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Seattle has far too many "social justice warriors" ( anarchists ).
You ( Andrzej Matuch ) replied ( to me ):
> Seattle is a city filled with stinky hippies who will dress in black,
> wear a mask and gladly attack anyone who is a "fascist" because they drive a car.
Seattle has far too many "social justice warriors" ( anarchists )
who think the world owes them everything, no matter how badly they act.
Trump supporters are hoping to correct that.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--0.46P.Seattle.2017
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Microsoft owns the "WorkStation" market.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> A free of cost product that can't be given away has problems, either
> intrinsic or extrinsic. Notice Windows doesn't need to be advocated.
Microsoft owns the "WorkStation" market.
Apple, Samsung and Google (Android/ChromeOS/iOS) own the "Kiosk" market.
P.S. What server are you using to post ? I see:
Path: newsread.glorb.com!!news-spur1.glorb.com!news.glorb.com!
news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.iecc.com!
nnews.iecc.com!.POSTED.gal.iecc.com!not-for-mail
Funky-Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!
.POSTED!not-for-mail
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What do you do, professionally ?
Marek Novotny wrote:
> I walk as much possible.
> .........
> No need to carry money or change or anything
> beyond your smart phone and that clipper card. Easy.
Right, except I don't need the Clipper card or phone.
What do you do, professionally ?
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My EasyToTurn, " BeachComber MacWagon ".
Marek Novotny wrote:
> You'll spend more time trying to find a place to park then
> it takes to get home via the train here [ San Francisco ].
> ....
> I haven't driven a car since 2002.
Amen to that. No parking.
Why does Ben Jacoby love buses so much,
are they packed tight with hapless cuties ?
I buy 6 gallons of milk at a time; to haul it,
I use my EasyToTurn, " BeachComber MacWagon ":
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/beachcomber-all-terrain-macwagon/1041696781
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There's no upside to owning a car, just pain.
You ( Mr. AA ) replied ( to me ):
> > I walk everywhere and buy online.
> > Once a year, or less, I take a bus.
> > 30 years ago, 1988, was the last time I drove a car.
>
> Tell us the story about the hot rod race
> and the hairy crack up that put you off on driving!
I wasn't using the car and, parking in congested Seattle,
immediately adjacent to the Univ. of Wash., is expensive.
There's no upside to owning a car, just pain.
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I walk everywhere and buy online.
You ( Andrzej Matuch ) wrote:
> I think Jeff Relf was the guy who said that
> we should avoid infotainment systems in our cars.
No, I live in Seattle, by the Univ. of Wash.;
I walk everywhere and buy online.
Once a year, or less, I take a bus.
30 years ago, 1988, was the last time I drove a car.
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You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it.
Jerry Stuckle, Juha Nieminen, Mr. DFS... this would be be better:
inline int isLeapYear( int y ) { return !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ); }
You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it.
Previously ( Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.34P.Seattle.2017 ), I asked DFS: ＜＜
Why reinvent the "mktime()" wheel, doesn't Python have it ?
i64 aDate ; tm DayRec = {};
DayRec.tm_mon = Month ; // 0..11
DayRec.tm_mday = DayOfTheMonth ; // 1..31
DayRec.tm_year = Year - 1900, aDate = mktime( &DayRec );
You can add 200 days to DayRec.tm_mday,
and call mktime( &DayRec ) to normalize .tm_mday to 1..31,
adjusting .tm_mon and .tm_year accordingly. ＞＞
He didn't answer.
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Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane.
Not everyone who disagrees with "you" ( Mr. DFS or Fabian ) is insane.
Owl, Marek Novotny and Scott Doty are server admins, not insane.
Michael Glasser is an Apple/Obama FanBoy, not insane.
John Gohde and Takuya Saitoh are lusty "health nuts", not insane.
As for Mistress FlatFish+++, our only female, I say:
Woman get sex whenever they want, no need for (male) lust.
Men get adventure whenever they want, no need for (female) romance.
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What's your AT&T wireless device, if not Android ?
You ( Marek_Novotny ) replied ( to me ):
> > How much do you pay per month for your "Free" Android devices, Novotny ?
>
> I have one Android device that is connected via Ting.
>
> Plan Data Usage S 76 MB $3.00
> Plan SMS Usage S 3 messages $3.00
> Plan Minutes Usage S 1 minute $3.00
> Line Fee XXXXXXXXXX $6.00
> Feb 28 - Mar 29
You sent 3 texts for $3 and talked 1 minute for another $3 ?
What's your AT&T wireless device, if not Android ?
> Let's see how quickly you can actually produce
> a real world invoice for services on par with what I just did.
I have no "Wireless Provider", no AT&T, just "VoIP.MS".
I don't pay any of the taxes you mentioned, no 911 service;
i.e. _nothing but PerMinute voice calls, CostFree text messages and:
Rate Center: Seattle, WA
Number: 206 900 9***
Incoming Billing Type: Per Minute / No restrictions.
Monthly Fee: 85 cents.
Rate: 9 cents per 10 minutes.
Since the start of last month ( March and April, 2017 ),
my calls ( to U.S., Netherlands and Japan ):
Calls: 57 | Duration: 2:05:58 | Total: $ 1.23 .
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My VoIP.MS service ( voice and text, cordless and Win10 ) costs pennies per month.
My VoIP.MS service ( voice and text, cordless and Win10 ) costs pennies per month.
How much do you pay per month for your "Free" Android devices, Novotny ?
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The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls.
The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls
who tweet all day about impossible boyfriends.
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Smoker Willie Nelson turns 84 this month.
Smoking doesn't "cause" cancer; it's "correlated to" cancer.
This guy smokes 12 cigars a day, sometimes more:
" 109-Year-Old Veteran and His Secrets to Life ", Feb 5, 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXyfCGDnuWs
This smoker is 146 years old:
" 146-year-old Indonesian is world’s oldest ? "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbY2e3zdiw
Jeanne Calment, a smoker, lived to 122:
" How To Live Past 100 - Secrets To Longevity From 5 Centenarians ":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hxfr5Tg7jY
Smoker Willie Nelson turns 84 this month.
Quoting
" Willie Nelson is, as the song goes, "Still Not Dead". ", April 2, 2017
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/willie-nelson-still-not-dead-gods-problem-child/
When he’s not traveling on his bus to one of the more
than 100 shows he stills does every year, Nelson
splits his time between a home in Maui ( where he
hangs with friends like Woody Harrelson ), and his
ranch outside Austin, complete with an Old West town
he named Luck, Texas.
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No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !
> > 2 weeks ago, you ( DFS ) showed me
> > your "readable and maintainable" code:
> >
> > int isleapyear(int yr) {
> > if(((yr%4==0) && (yr%100!=0)) || (yr%400==0))
> > {return 0;}
> > return -1;
> > } // oackac$fve$1@dont-email.me
> >
> > Then I showed you my "kooky and oddly formatted" version of it:
> >
> > #define isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )
>
> Who are you talking to?
Mr. DFS, see above; the thread ( oldest first ):
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> Consider what happens if you call it eg. like isLeapYear(a+b).
> Even when you fix the macro, there's still the problem of calling it
> like isLeapYear(someReallyExpensiveFunctionThatTakesAMinuteToReturn()).
Thanks for dreaming up scary scenarios however,
like guns and knives, macros are useful too, not just dangerous.
No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros.
Here's some more "scary" macros for you...
MicroSoft's WinMerge uses this this algorithm:
" Dynamic Programming | Set 4 (Longest Common Subsequence) "
http://www.geeksforgeeks.org/dynamic-programming-set-4-longest-common-subsequence/
My code, below, produces the same results as WinMerge:
// ScreenShot: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
// Help/Settings: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
// _FileCmp(), below, records thousands of matching lines ( text ),
// LeftOlder vs RightNewer, using the "LongestCommonSequence"
// ( shortest diffs ) algorithm.
//
// BB is a pointer to the start of
// a dynamic array of ( contiguous ) pointers ( lines );
// PP points to the end of the array.
//
// BB and PP are from the LeftOlder file.
// _BB and _PP are from the RightNewer file.
_FileCmp( LnA BB, LnA _BB, LnA PP, LnA _PP, LnT &Ln ) {
int Rows = PP - BB + 1, Cols = _PP - _BB + 1 ; u64 Row = Rows, Col = Cols ;
// Allocate a " LeftOlderLines * RightNewerLines " table of 32 bit integers
// to store all LongestCommonSequence Lengths.
pInt _Table = (pInt)MallocTmp( Rows * Cols * szInt );
{ LoopRow( Rows ) { LoopCol( Cols ) {
if ( !Row || !Col ) { Table( Row, Col ) = 0 ; continue ; }
if ( aMatch ) Table( Row, Col ) = Table( Row - 1, Col - 1 ) + 1 ;
else Table( Row, Col ) = ER( Table( Row, Col - 1 ), Table( Row - 1, Col ) ); } } }
// " Ln " is a dynamic array of thousands of ( contiguous ) 64 bit pointers,
// repurosed to store two 32 bit intergers ( Row and Col ) in a pointer.
// If both files are the same, with X Lines, it'll store X RowCol pairs.
//
// The first " StoreRowColumn ", below, stores the end of the files;
// the last is first, and vice versa; it's reversed.
Zero( Ln ), StoreRowColumn;
while ( Row > 0 && Col > 0 )
if ( aMatch ) StoreRowColumn ;
else Table( Row, Col - 1 ) > Table( Row - 1, Col ) ? Col-- : Row-- ; }
Near Globals:
// Access " _Table ", a One Dimensional array, as if it were Two Dimensional.
#define Table( i, j ) _Table[ ( j ) * Rows + i ]
// F[-1] is the ( 16 bit ) length of the leading whitespace.
#define aMatch ( F = BB[ Row - 1 ], _F = _BB[ Col - 1 ], F[-1] == _F[-1] && Eq( F, _F ) )
// Store the matching lines as line numbers from LeftOlder and RightNewer
#define StoreRowColumn ( Inc( Ln ) = LnP( Row - 1 << 32 | Col - 1 ), Row--, Col-- )
LnP F, _F ;
Far Globals:
#define Zero( X ) memset( & X, 0, sizeof X )
#define Eq !strCmp
#define LoopRows( N ) int Row = -1, eRow = ( N ) - 1 ; while ( ++Row <= eRow )
#define LoopCols( N ) int Col = -1, eCol = ( N ) - 1 ; while ( ++Col <= eCol )
typedef wchar_t wchar ; typedef wchar *LnP ; typedef LnP *LnA ;
typedef int *pInt ; typedef void *Void_P ; typedef unsigned __int64 u64 ;
const int szInt = sizeof( int );
struct LnT { LnA BB, PP, maxPP ; }; LnT Ln ;
// " Inc() ", below, dynamically allocates thousands of ( contiguous ) pointers.
// When diff is done, " Temp_Heap " is simply destroyed.
template < typename TyT, typename TyA, typename TyP >
TyP & Inc( TyT & Xx, int N ) { int I_PP, I_PP_New, I_maxPP, rv, Sz, Temp_Heap = N >= 0 ; if ( !Temp_Heap ) N = 1 ;
I_PP = !Xx.PP ? -1 : Xx.PP - Xx.BB, I_maxPP = !Xx.maxPP ? 0 : Xx.maxPP - Xx.BB, I_PP_New = I_PP + N ; if( I_maxPP < 0 ) exit(1);
if ( I_PP_New < I_maxPP ) { OK: return Xx.PP = Xx.BB + I_PP_New, *Xx.PP ; }
rv = ER( 1024, 3 * I_PP_New ), Sz = 16 + rv * szPtr ;
Xx.maxPP = Xx.BB = TyA( Temp_Heap ? ReAllocTmp( Xx.BB, ++I_PP * szPtr, Sz ) : realloc( Xx.BB, Sz ) ), Xx.maxPP += rv ;
if( !Xx.BB ) exit(1); goto OK ; }
LnP &Inc( LnT &Ln ) { return Inc< LnT, LnA, LnP>( Ln, 1 ) ; }
LnP ReAllocTmp( Void_P B⁰, int Sz⁰, int Sz ) { Void_P B = B⁰ ; if ( Sz > 0 && Sz > Sz⁰ ) B = MallocTmp( Sz );
if ( B⁰ && Sz⁰ > 0 ) memmove( B, B⁰, Sz⁰ ); return LnP( B ); }
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--0.29P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/2|178 K; 4.6 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 2 { 7:26 A, 2017 }:47^(PDT) VყЖʧ
Dreamers aren't interested in cause and effect.
Dreamers aren't interested in cause and effect;
to them, the earth is flat and chariots drag the sun across the sky.
Ptolemaic astronomy, a.k.a. string theory, obviates the need to know
what causes what... don't ask, don't tell.
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Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid 88%CA.259440$IM7.14144@fx39.iad
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--4.07P.Seattle.2017
Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid fVbEA.187425$Bp6.53689@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--0.13P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Comp.Sys.Mac.System, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Cellular-Phone-Tech
╱ 1/1|36 A; 30 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Apr 2 { : 2 P, 2017 }:35^(-5) Vყфʛ
Old Age is the leading cause of death everywhere, globally.
Old Age is the leading cause of death everywhere, globally.
Even now, at 57 years old, decades seem like minutes to me;
it's better to die at 80, having been a joy to yourself and others,
than to live to 90, making everyone miserable.
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Sam_E│why_should_this@be_email_ 57YCA.231023$XG2.99115@fx08.iad
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--4.07P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Comp.Sys.Mac.System, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Cellular-Phone-Tech
╱ 1/1|35 A; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Apr 1 { 1:47 P, 2017 }:50^(-5) Vყɗწ
Smokers are smarter, I say.
The top ten most frequent ways Americans die, by age group:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/OldPeopleDie.PNG
" UnIntentional Injury " ( e.g. a drug OverDose ) kills _Young people;
-- Behind the wheel, drinkers kill _Young people;
-- When you don't get enough sleep, kid, you're _Drunk.
Smokers are smarter, I say.
" Heart Disease " ( e.g. from decades of smoking ) kills _Old people.
So what ? ! Old Age is the leading cause of death everywhere, globally.
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JohnSefton 6386c4f2-ae7f-41e7-9ee4-b712f50d2c2e@googlegroups.com
MichaelMoroney obn77u$e6m$2@pcls7.std.com
hVac 67597e2b-c870-4e9a-9d08-b12cc49b9919@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton f7908d5b-3b25-4102-9634-6b5e1a5f41ec@googlegroups.com
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--10.05A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 4/4|178 K; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG, Apr 1 { 8: 5 A, 2017 }:58^(PDT) VყUჴ
They're not trained because they take the easy/fun way out: SciFi.
Mr. hVac told John Sefton and Ben Jacoby:
> you can't win because the two of you are not properly trained.
And they're not trained because they take the easy/fun way out: SciFi.
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MrDFS obj166$7rj$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.07P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS obk7sg$det$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--8.21P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh c78b9976-66e4-47c2-a6a8-d8e63ecf1468@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--10.43P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|128 A; 24.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 109.163.234.8, Mar 30 { 10: 9 P, 2017 }:48^(PDT) Vღpϓ
21 lines, 74 columns, no macros.
I don't have much use for assembly language these days, Takuya Saitoh,
but Forth, in the form of PostScript ( .PDF files ), is still useful.
newpath
150 310 moveto 360 310 lineto
360 400 lineto 150 400 lineto
closepath
360 347 moveto 410 330 lineto
410 380 lineto 360 363 lineto
2 setlinewidth stroke
showpage
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.54A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann obii4i$m36$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV njtpdc5354qqii10m80t3htjglscka44rs@4ax.com
MrDFS obj166$7rj$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.07P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS obk7sg$det$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--8.21P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/3|341 T; 7.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 30 { 5:31 P, 2017 }:34^(-4) Vღ5ɞ
21 lines, 74 columns, no macros.
You ( DFS ) asked me:
> > What does "spent energy" have to do with compression ? ! nothing.
>
> What's all this overmedicated rambling about?
"Shannon Entropy" is a misnomer, and I've no use for it.
> It's a tiny program - around 50 lines probably
Yours was 62 lines, 90 columns, not counting the #includes;
mine is 21 lines, 74 columns, no macros, Sh() is printf( L"\n" ); to wit:
int Len, _Len, Row, Cnt ; float Dist, BitsRow, Bits ;
wchar_t TheCh, Data[] = L"Abbcccdddd1223334444" ;
Row = Bits = 0, Len = sizeof Data / sizeof *Data - 1 ;
Sh( L"%d Glyphs in \" %s \".", Len, Data );
Sh();
Sh( L" # Glyph Cnt Dist D*log2(D) H(X) sum ");
Sh( L" -- ----- --- ------ --------- ---------- ");
Row: Row++, _Len = Len, TheCh = Cnt = 0 ;
while( --_Len >= 0 ) { wchar_t &aCh = Data[ _Len ];
if ( !aCh ) continue ; if ( !TheCh ) TheCh = aCh ;
if ( aCh == TheCh ) aCh = 0, Cnt++ ; }
if ( !Cnt ) goto Done ;
Dist = float( Cnt )/Len, BitsRow = Dist*log2f( Dist ), Bits += BitsRow ;
Sh( L" %d %c %d %.3f %.3f %.5f ",
Row, TheCh, Cnt, Dist, BitsRow, -1*Bits ); goto Row ;
Done: Sh();
Sh( L" Shannon Entropy: %.5f bits. ", -1*Bits );
Sh( L" Metric Entropy: %.5f bits per Glyph. ", -1*Bits / Len );
// 20 Glyphs in " Abbcccdddd1223334444 ".
//
// # Glyph Cnt Dist D*log2(D) H(X) sum
// -- ----- --- ------ --------- ----------
// 1 A 1 0.050 -0.216 0.21610
// 2 b 2 0.100 -0.332 0.54829
// 3 c 3 0.150 -0.411 0.95883
// 4 d 4 0.200 -0.464 1.42322
// 5 1 1 0.050 -0.216 1.63932
// 6 2 2 0.100 -0.332 1.97151
// 7 3 3 0.150 -0.411 2.38205
// 8 4 4 0.200 -0.464 2.84644
//
// Shannon Entropy: 2.84644 bits.
// Metric Entropy: 0.14232 bits per Glyph.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.54A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann obii4i$m36$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV njtpdc5354qqii10m80t3htjglscka44rs@4ax.com
MrDFS obj166$7rj$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.07P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/7|342 T; 5.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 30 { 6:32 A, 2017 }: 9^(-4) VქϽʁ
No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !
2 weeks ago, you ( DFS ) showed me your "readable and maintainable" code:
int isleapyear(int yr) {
if(((yr%4==0) && (yr%100!=0)) || (yr%400==0))
{return 0;}
return -1;
} // oackac$fve$1@dont-email.me
Then I showed you my "kooky and oddly formatted" version of it:
#define isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )
No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !
Shannon Entropy ( poorly ) estimates:
the minimum number of bits needed to _encode data.
But I don't want to _encode/_decode anything; even if I did,
Shannon Entropy can't predict the algorithm I'd use.
In thermodynamics "entropy" is how uniform the heat energy is;
i.e. how _spent it is, so it can't produce "Work" ( force*distance ).
In cosmology, we call this "heat death", the end of all "life".
What does "spent energy" have to do with compression ? ! nothing.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.54A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.
I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.
To Register ( in German ): http://open-news-network.org/register
Once registered, use: News.MB-Net.NET:119
When you post, it puts your IP address in the header.
It drops all posts from anonymous remailers, and such.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--0.24A.Seattle.2017
Alt.Test
v v88 v_v
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny aPOdncnzHuabWkvFnZ2dnUU7-IVg4p2d@giganews.com
MrDFS obbgth$u8e$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--4.44P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS obdud4$68s$5@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--2.48P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS obgm8g$am0$6@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.34P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/12|330 T; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 29 { 9:12 A, 2017 }:15^(-4) VქgF
CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> I just used the "head" command and they came back normal;
> so it looks like [ the "NewsGroups:" fail ] happens only with "xhdr"
> on blocknews. Also, xhdr('User-Agent') returns nothing from blocknews.
Binary servers ( nonINN, not Individual.NET nor Glorb.COM )
are designed for MessageIDs/NZBs, not ArticleNumbers ( not xHdr ).
You get what you pay for;
INN servers cost $10/per year, BlockNews is $3 for life.
Eternal-September is CostFree, but they _fuck with you, censor you.
If you want to download TV shows, and you're willing to pay for it,
and you don't mind the fact that most of them are _quickly removed,
due to copyright violations, then Usenet has you covered; many options.
Otherwise, not so much; few options.
Quoting my "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM":
// Only Pay/UnCensored INN servers properly update NewsGroups
// ( to recent posts ); several minutes may pass ( at times )
// before a binary server can do it.
//
// Binary servers handle MessageIDs and NZBs just fine, no problems;
// but they have serious problems with NewsGroups and ArticleNumbers;
// -- attempting to download via an ArticleNumber may _Hang/TimeOut;
// -- and, when it works, it's 5 times slower than INN servers.
> At some point I'm gonna build a Qt (on Windows) interface to my db, and
> go to town on the search and summary facilities. That will be awesome.
> It will make the GG and Thunderbird stuff look like absolute child's play.
I like it so far, and I wish you well.
Personally, I focus more on what _I wrote ( and who I replied to ),
not random trolls.
> > i64 aDate ; tm DayRec = {};
> > DayRec.tm_mon = Month ; // 0..11
> > DayRec.tm_mday = DayOfTheMonth ; // 1..31
> > DayRec.tm_year = Year - 1900, aDate = mktime( &DayRec );
> >
> > You can add 200 days to DayRec.tm_mday, and call mktime( &DayRec ) to
> > normalize .tm_mday to 1..31, adjusting .tm_mon and .tm_year accordingly.
>
> After doing that UTC code yesterday, I might flesh it out and make my
> own datetime library that will handle adding/subtracting
> seconds,minutes,hours,days,weeks,months,years, etc.
Why reinvent the "mktime()" wheel, doesn't Python have it ?
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.3
> > My "(Seattle)" is just a comment, it's not used to calculate a date.
>
> Special people feel entitled to add special comments.
rfc2822 allows it.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--5.41A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 5ee10872-68c7-4063-9281-8881a0043fb5@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde 2dfa1520-9cad-4820-aad8-708e3f99b503@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--11.55A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╳ 1/1|95 D; 6.2 Hours, GoogleG, 72.84.227.75, Mar 29 { 5:32 A, 2017 }:36^(PDT) Vქ5ʜ
Fucking Lolitas.
Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> > jewish banksters who keep young chicks around don't get old until 90+.
There's no empirical evidence that fucking lolitas increases one's longevity;
basicially, it just makes you feel older/depressed.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--10.06P.Seattle.2017
Owl lkbvu00.by@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--11.51P.Seattle.2017
Owl ahvjz001.byha0@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--0.45A.Seattle.2017
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ 2MednVrlubv89kbFnZ2dnUU78K_NnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--11.44A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|71 D; 10.2 Hours, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM, Mar 29 { 1: 8 A, 2017 }: 1^(-5) Vფяɹ
WhiteSpace Vs. Arts and Humanities.
You ( CaptainPissBucket ) were schooled in arts and humanities,
not science and programming; e.g. you quote my code like it was
a review of the Mona Lisa -- you don't respect my WhiteSpace.
So please forgive me if I (mostly) ignore you here, in this thread.
Mr. Owl has the same problem,
he should use " // comments ", like me, with lots of whiteSpace,
instead of the tight "/*+-y*/" that he's shown here, in this thread.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--7.46P.Seattle.2017
Owl gq003.bpuz0@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--10.06P.Seattle.2017
Owl lkbvu00.by@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--11.51P.Seattle.2017
Owl ahvjz001.byha0@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--0.45A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|180 T; 8.5 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop, Mar 29 { :26 A, 2017 }: 2 Vფшɺ
The error is _obvious when you compare outputs, no need for the warning.
I use my diff routines to compare outputs and code; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
I check it all the time... testing shit.
You ( Owl ) don't have that, not like me, so you keep with your
warnings instead, changing lots of code, only to change it back again,
just so you can debug after commenting out some code
that referenced variables ( assuming WarningsAsErrors ).
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Owl kpcjzo003.bau@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--7.46P.Seattle.2017
Owl gq003.bpuz0@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--10.06P.Seattle.2017
Owl lkbvu00.by@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--11.51P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|179 T; 3.2 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop, Mar 28 { 11:10 P, 2017 }:59 Vფлй
The error is _obvious when you compare outputs, no need for the warning.
You ( Owl ) replied ( to me ):
> > my diff is _much clearer; to wit: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>
> That's pretty, but can you feed it to a patch utility?
No, I've no need for that.
I run diffs all the time, just to be sure;
I just like looking at it, and it's often very informative.
At times, diff doesn't help because recent changes
are just a huge blur of red and green.
August 2007 is my oldest backup.
> > // y = z ;
> > // printf( "Leaving Set_yTo4().\n" );
> > Variables gets commented out, at times, when debugging.
> > With "warnings as errors", you don't want it to stop the debuging.
> > UnUsed variables are informative, and might be needed again, later.
> >
> > Commenting out " y = z ; " produces a large/obvious change;
> > depending on the circumstances, it could crash the app.
>
> There is no obvious problem with testing alone:
>
> y: 4
> y: 8
>
> The only clue you get that there might be a problem is the warning.
The error is _obvious when you compare outputs, no need for the warning.
When _only 4 works, and all else crashes the app, it's _really obvious.
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MrDFS obbglg$u8e$1@dont-email.me
Lawrence_Washington│Me@walmart_ obdiq3$ujg$1@dont-email.me
Owl kpcjzo003.bau@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--7.46P.Seattle.2017
Owl gq003.bpuz0@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--10.06P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|178 T; 37.3 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop, Mar 28 { 8:45 P, 2017 }:11 VფУΠ
Using "//" instead of "/**/" clarifies things.
Owl wrote:
> > > - y=x;
> > > -/* printf("leaving blah\n");
> > > +/*y=x;
> > > + printf("leaving blah\n");
> > > */
> >
> > none of your outputs say "leaving blah".
>
> Because that is the part that is commented out.
Oops... I see that now -- it was _very confusing.
I'd use "//" with lots of spaces, not your tight "/**/", above.
Also, my diff is _much clearer; to wit: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
> int x, y ;
>
> Set_yTo4() { int z = 4 ;
> // y = z ;
> // printf( "Leaving Set_yTo4().\n" );
> }
>
> main() { x = 7, y = 8, Set_yTo4();
> printf("x: %d, y: %d, sum: %d\n", x, y, x + y ); }
Variables get commented out, at times, when debugging.
With "warnings as errors", you don't want it to stop the debuging.
UnUsed variables are informative, and might be needed again, later.
Commenting out " y = z ; " produces a large/obvious change;
depending on the circumstances, it could crash the app.
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Owl kpcjzo003.bau@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--7.46P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/6|177 T; 11.9 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop, Mar 28 { 6:53 A, 2017 }:15 Vფʊщ
Where are Marek and Melszzzzz
Owl wrote:
> Below, testing alone shows nothing wrong,
> but there is definitely something wrong.
You didn't list some the printf()'s
and none of your outputs say "leaving blah".
Please show _all of the code and outputs.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--5.27P.Seattle.2017
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ g6CdnWzVXZJFlUbFnZ2dnUU7-f3NnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--6.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|61 D; 23.4 Minutes, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM, Mar 28 { 6: 7 P, 2017 }:36^(-5) VფϹɠ
"Gecko" NewsReaders can be grouped together..
You ( Fakey's Puppy ) replied ( to me ):
> > else if ( !H.Reader && ( Eqi( Tok, L"User-Agent:" )
> > || Eqi( Tok, L"X-Newsreader:" ) || Eqi( Tok, L"X-Mailer:" ) ) ) H.Reader = B ;
> > .............
> > { L"/X.HTM", L"X.HTM" }, { L"Netscape", L"Gecko➤Netscape" },
> > { L"40tude", L"40tude" }, { L"Xnews", L"Xnews" }, { L"Emacs", L"Emacs" },
> > { L"Gecko➤Mnenhy" }, { L"Thunderbird", L"Gecko➤Thunder" },
> > { L"Spicebird", L"Gecko➤Spicebird" }, { L"Icedove", L"Gecko➤Icedove" },
> > { L"Messenger", L"Gecko➤Messenger" }, { L"Mozilla", L"Gecko➤Mozilla" } };
>
> i don't see my news reader [ sinewavestew ] listed. :(
Your "User-Agent:" line is too random to be included, sorry.
If "/X.HTM" is in "User-Agent: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM"
then the nym is just "X.HTM", instead of the whole thing,
"Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM".
If "Icedove" is there, then "Gecko➤Icedove" is the nym.
So, when reporting, "Gecko" NewsReaders can be grouped together.
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MrDFS obdrcq$rn8$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--5.27P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/22|326 T; 9.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 28 { 7:22 A, 2017 }:36^(-4) VფʏТ
I assign a Nym to a NewsReader.
> U.USERAGENT LIKE '40tude%' AND
> P2.POSTER = 'Jeff Relf '
> Total rows loaded: 449
>
> I won't paste them all here, but they all look like:
>
> 40tude_Dialog/2.0.12.1 (9cf5bcf0.211.253)
> 40tude_Dialog/2.0.12.1 (9e8516dc.210.235)
> 40tude_Dialog/2.0.12.1 (a070e520.97.41)
> 40tude_Dialog/2.0.12.1 (a4b45295.230.128)
>
> A different agent string for each of 449 posts?
> You owe me wasted database rows!
40tude did that, not me. I assign a Nym to a NewsReader.
The following code shows how I do that, and what Header Lines I use.
#define LOOP while(1)
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MrAA 46f344c5-4266-4080-8395-343f7f85e198@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--4.35P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 5/7|160 T; 57.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 28 { 3: 5 P, 2017 }:22^(PDT) Vფυა
Ravencroft Institute for the Criminally Insane.
Mr. AA asked Mr. Hanson:
> When is feeding time at Ravencraig?
Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_correctional_facilities_in_comics
RavenCroft Institute for the Criminally Insane
was a maximum security asylum for the mentally ill.
Many insane murderers and supervillains were kept at RavenCroft.
The institute was first mentioned in Web of Spider-Man #112.
No mention of a "Hanson".
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noTthaTguY│abu_kuanysh05@gmail_ bee36f79-2833-4ea3-a7a5-e195214cd0fc@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.48P.Seattle.2017
JohnSefton 0b0b207c-ed7f-4ff9-bce9-a2b3a961ef43@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com obdont$1fk9$3@gioia.aioe.org
MrAA 9e768f3e-77c4-4a89-9624-54f84b59254d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--4.14P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╳ 1/7|160 T; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 28 { 2:37 P, 2017 }:44^(PDT) Vფρɨ
Infinity is a somewhat useful notion; empirically, it's can't be.
Infinity is a somewhat useful notion; empirically, it's can't be.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.39P.Seattle.2017
noTthaTguY│abu_kuanysh05@gmail_ bee36f79-2833-4ea3-a7a5-e195214cd0fc@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.48P.Seattle.2017
JohnSefton 0b0b207c-ed7f-4ff9-bce9-a2b3a961ef43@googlegroups.com
MichaelMoroney obebdm$5cf$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--3.45P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|109 D; 4 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Mar 28 { 11:52 A, 2017 }:38 VფΝФ
Space _And Time are growing exponentially.
Michael Moroney replied to John Sefton:
> > if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
> > either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of Light.
>
> Tell me, where is the center of the surface of the Earth?
Our horizon is subjective, we're _always at the center.
The MetaCosmos is forever evaporating, dispersing, thinnning out;
so, according to General Relativity, the standard/natural yardstick
is growing exponentially and the standard/natural clock accelerates;
i.e. Space _And Time are growing exponentially.
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MrDFS ob6ggq$qia$3@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny aPOdncnzHuabWkvFnZ2dnUU7-IVg4p2d@giganews.com
MrDFS obbgth$u8e$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--4.44P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS obdud4$68s$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--2.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/24|326 T; 3.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 28 { 8:14 A, 2017 }:15^(-4) Vფʘʇ
CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me.
You ( MrDFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > qBittorrent, Zoom Player Max 13.0 rc1 ($30)
>
> I think I've downloaded 2 torrents in my life. What kind of stuff do
> you download? I always associate torrents with pirated material.
I mostly download YouTube videos
( via Video DownloadHelper/Converter, FireFox, $29 via Stripe )
but, occasionally, I download TV shows.
CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me because I'm not making money off it,
and my IP address is not me.
> The 'Newsgroups' header from blocknews.net looked like this in older posts:
> Xref: nimbus comp.os.linux.advocacy:12345 alt.usenet.kooks:01673
> sci.physics:34592
I don't believe that ! You _must be confused. What's the MessageID ?
> imageMagick is a graphics library - not much in common with gimp.
It's also an editor. Gimp is good but hard to learn.
I code Direct2D ( for PostScriptLike paths and bitmaps )
and DirectWrite ( fonts ); previously, I used DirectDraw and GDI+.
Direct2D is amazingly powerful and, because it's part of Direct3D,
I get a high "frame rate", even with heavy, 4K graphics -- very nice !
> > Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition ( CostFree )
> > with Visual Commander Professional 2.6.3 ( $49 ).
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
>
> VS is nice, but too bulbous for my hobby programs.
> SublimeText is another nice editor.
I know vs2017 and VisualCommander ( EnvDTE80 / C# ) inside and out,
backwards and forwards; so, in my mind, they're "tiny".
> > I use my "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM", of course.
>
> And others
> --------------------
> 40tude_Dialog 2125
> Forte Agent 1
> Google Groups 2
> Mozilla 2
> Relf's X 4085
> Thunderbird 1
> Xnews 44
> unknown 78
> --------------------
I used 40tude_Dialog when, 2004 ?
I've tested NewsReaders, of course.
> Your X-related user agent strings
> Jeff-Relf.Me/X.TXT
> Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
> Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP
> X
> JeffRelf.F-M.FM/X.ZIP
> JeffRelf.F-M.FM/X.ZIP
> X.ZIP
> JeffRelf.F-M.FM/X.EXE
> X.EXE
Most of those were years ago, now it's "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM".
> > I use .TXT files; to wit: "Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT".
>
> You should slam them into a database where you can sort and query.
They're sorted by date, and easy to search and edit
using vs2017, my PlainText editor.
vs2017 can edit a 3 GigaByte text file, as I did today.
> I have a table with nearly 67 million rows in it, and
> it's pretty fast to query. Updates and inserts are slow, though.
I like what you're doing, but I can use GoogleGroups instead;
e.g. to find your "o9p7bt$qrj$3@dont-email.me" post, do:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/messageid:o9p7bt$24qrj$243@dont-email.me
> Yesterday I wrote a python module to determine UTC given an NNTP post date:
> http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=04316373949536294863
>
> I think I did it right - I created a bunch of tests and it passed them
> (except for one, which I decided not to 'fix' because there is no time
> zone with a +-0030 offset)
All dates should be convertable to seconds since the start of 1970,
a 64 bit integer. In C, it's like this:
i64 aDate ; tm DayRec = {};
DayRec.tm_mon = Month ; // 0..11
DayRec.tm_mday = DayOfTheMonth ; // 1..31
DayRec.tm_year = Year - 1900, aDate = mktime( &DayRec );
You can add 200 days to DayRec.tm_mday, and call mktime( &DayRec ) to
normalize .tm_mday to 1..31, adjusting .tm_mon and .tm_year accordingly.
rfc2822 ( April 2001 ) Obsoletes rfc822 ( August 13, 1982 ).
Quoting
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.3
The form "+0000" SHOULD be used to indicate
a time zone at Universal Time.
Quoting
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#appendix-A.6.2
The following [has] an obsolete date format,
including a non-numeric time zone and a two digit year:
Date: 21 Nov 97 09:55:06 GMT
My "(Seattle)" is just a comment, it's not used to calculate a date.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--5.41A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
Old Age is the leading cause of death.
Globally, Old Age is the leading cause of death.
"UnIntentional Injury" ( e.g. a drug OverDose ) kills _Young people.
"Heart Disease" ( e.g. from decades of smoking ) kills _Old people.
The top ten most frequent ways Americans die, by age group:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/OldPeopleDie.PNG
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.39P.Seattle.2017
noTthaTguY│abu_kuanysh05@gmail_ bee36f79-2833-4ea3-a7a5-e195214cd0fc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|443 D; 39 Secs, GoogleG, 192.208.232.34, Mar 27 { 9:41 P, 2017 }:44^(PDT) Vფkღ
String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.
> > String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.
>
> Why, because it's 1+9 dimensional ?
No, because both are unwieldly kluges desinged to
shoe horn in an UltraBiased, HumanCentric point of view.
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MichaelGlasser D4FD8F80.97683%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Bite_My_Shiny_Metal_Ass lpmidc9d8god7d30q6u0fr71i66nnua32f@4ax.com
Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_ obc00l$kmd$2@dont-email.me
Bite_My_Shiny_Metal_Ass 9g1jdcp4imeueshj0iavslb5e32p322ab5@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 2/5|8 V; 5.2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 27 { 3: 8 P, 2017 }:33^(8) Vუუʙ
String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.
String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.
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TakuyaSaitoh 305afef1-2562-470a-8147-cabac23227ef@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde 3e4edf28-82e9-4faa-99e5-8d080f2cad76@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh ddb7c658-0706-47c7-bbc6-fa76064908b3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.22P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/3|121 A; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 176.31.180.157, Mar 27 { 6:45 P, 2017 }:16^(PDT) VფHΦ
Muhammad's death throws are spastic.
Muhammad's death throws are spastic.
Atheist China is rising to the top.
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Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_ obbuv6$kmd$1@dont-email.me
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gkbjdc1gvbqh357rdjsgiegti03krrq44i@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FF0225.98660%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gcdjdct0lhn8l1drh3jcoooongubqprluq@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FF0A5B.98671%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall effjdcditfvj9q02rt1ch4gfrhejtc7f3t@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.12P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 14/14|63 A; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 27 { 6:37 P, 2017 }: 2^(-4) VფGȴ
Trump is more "golden calf" than Christian.
Trump is more "golden calf" than Christian.
Hippie Jesus said:
" Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. "
" The love of money is the root of all evil. "
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Mullah_Abdullah_ibn_Muhallab_ 9ejzym$odp$8@alt.binaries.erotica.multimedia.itsy-bitsy-papa's-poker
MichaelGlasser D4FC8461.97554%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall fpcjdc1jn3e8j9flg1tmb1t35d8le3m736@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.03P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 10/14|63 A; 2.5 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 27 { 5:53 P, 2017 }:39^(-4) Vფ8ს
Christians pick out the good parts of the Old Testament.
Christians pick out the good parts of the Old Testament
and discard the rest. The Quran has good parts too; to wit:
They question thee about strong drink and games of chance.
Say: In both is great sin, and (some) utility for men;
but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness.
-- chapter 2 verse 219.
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Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_ ob9uta$q9q$6@dont-email.me
MichaelGlasser D4FDD2EE.97727%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall t3oidctj5p18saan2ph0v39uo0do8t7qtm@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FEB98D.9856F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 4lridc9u3iaikj47p4ku5gsq36u5tf6cc6@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--8.51P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 6/14|63 A; 7.4 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 27 { :58 P, 2017 }:30^(-4) VუэМ
Men were _not created equally.
Men were _not created equally.
A man who _intentionally mows down innocent pedestrians
on a London bridge and then stabs an unarmed policeman to death
( because his OnceMuslim wife divorced him, Western style )
is _not equal to a man like Bill Gates who helps women
chose if they want to have kids nor not
( by giving them contraceptive microchips ).
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--11.10A.Seattle.2017
MrAA 799decd2-a1ef-4fc4-be54-3d2956a20c8d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--5.54P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/5|153 T; 3.5 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 27 { 2:14 P, 2017 }:14^(PDT) Vულʆ
Find something you want to create, and go for it.
You ( MrAA ) wrote:
> I have heard it said that 70% of Beaverton codes in C.
Only the programmers, and we are few.
> There are no books on C here in the Gresham Library.
> Seems strange if the language is so popular.
You learn by doing, and Googling.
Find something you want to create, and go for it.
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MrChrisV aancdc9anun00mdsd52bnd7m4020nac77u@4ax.com
SpittleSlime ob5vrl$1bd$2@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny r_idnXEX5bucGEvFnZ2dnUU7-bXNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS ob6ggq$qia$3@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny aPOdncnzHuabWkvFnZ2dnUU7-IVg4p2d@giganews.com
MrDFS obbgth$u8e$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--4.44P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|303 T; 5.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 27 { 10:11 A, 2017 }:36^(-4) Vუбპ
CostFree apps.
MrDFS lists his CostFree apps:
> ConEmu
Wow, that's quite the Terminal Emulator !
I use Console2 -- ConsoleZ is more recent.
> Notepad++
Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition ( CostFree )
with Visual Commander Professional 2.6.3 ( $49 ).
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
> Thunderbird
Good Choice ! I use my "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM", of course.
> PostgreSQL
I use .TXT files; to wit: "Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT".
> imageMagick
I use Gimp -- it's complex, but Google helps.
> python
Visual C++ 2017.
I'd add:
Mozilla FireFox, Google Chrome, WinAmp, WinSCP (FTP),
Audacity, qBittorrent, Zoom Player Max 13.0 rc1 ($30),
jcPicker ( Color Picker ), CoreTemp.
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MrChrisV ov18dc9ckjlqebird9fppuff0k44qs15uj@4ax.com
MrChrisV hn48dc97bsrhhrg67j174tfk7pngjvli4e@4ax.com
MrDFS obbcrt$f0t$6@dont-email.me
PeterKöhlmann obbel4$mag$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS obbglg$u8e$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--11.10A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/3|302 T; 34.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 27 { 10: 7 A, 2017 }:17^(-4) VუбɅ
Peter Kohlmann _personally edited, compiled and debugged a .C file ?
Peter Köhlmann replied ( to my comment ):
> > > Jeff Relf: " Testing is how you know if the code works or not,
> > > not compile-time warnings. "
> >
> > Relf's claim is maximum stupid.
> > Someone like Relf should not be allowed anywhere near a compiler.
I edited, compiled and debugged X.CPP yesterday,
in order to test the speed and accuracy of various "pay" servers.
When was the last time Peter Köhlmann _personally
( hiring a plumber doesn't make you a plumber )
edited, compiled and debugged a .C file ?
With "warnings as errors", turn off these warnings:
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SpittleSlime ob9n49$o3p$1@dont-email.me
MichaelGlasser D4FDC921.97702%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall o4vgdchka9p08jcv74g8nmoahtqs8hgq51@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FDCD24.9771B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall hd0hdchtvhigqm15ud89valhiuboeghrci@4ax.com
_%│persent@gmail_com a76ltr.t7k.17.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--8.28P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|6 V; 1.7 Minutes, Win_Mail, Alt.NET, Mar 26 { 8:19 P, 2017 }:51^(-7) Vუʙɯ
Both Michael Glasser and CaptainPissBucket have OCD, bad.
Both Michael Glasser and CaptainPissBucket have OCD, bad.
They can't communicate.
Thousands of posts, saying nothing.
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Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_ ob9rd2$q9q$1@dont-email.me
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall thsgdc9rfrcps0108lv7a64nhq524r0kso@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FDCB53.9770F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall pkvgdc5phblmqmrtbgjr1m2n8ri9htn2lb@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--8.21P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/2|47 A; 1.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 26 { 7:58 P, 2017 }:16^(-4) VუʕϾ
Kids today make Jesus look like Trump.
The Quran is more namby pamby than the Torah because it's newer.
Hippie Jesus was a lefty; he said:
" Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. "
" The love of money is the root of all evil. "
Kids today make Jesus look like Trump.
In the recent London attacks, which saw 4 people killed,
including a policeman, the attacker was _too religious;
i.e. he couldn't handle losing his wife and kids to divorce.
He thought, " Parliament made my wife too free and independent ";
then, being the LifeLong criminal that he was, he attacked them.
ISIS thinks the same way, I'm sure.
Chooses the LeastWorst option and hope for the best.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.43P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q7ogdc186kp6gn6p1gk8u9sm8arn72acus@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.13P.Seattle.2017
SpittleSlime 2v_BA.167714$kx.139788@fx33.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--7.57P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|5 V; 32.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Mar 26 { 7: 9 P, 2017 }: 2^(-4) VუʍΗ
Most likely, someone close to you is stealing your money.
You ( SpittleSlime ) wrote:
> BlockNews allows you to connect at port 443 and costs
> very little and it is blazing fast so I have to vouch for it.
Most likely, someone close to you is stealing your money.
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. D4FC6AF4.97519%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
. i99edc1mouaam8u9r7515060b9bfssibhu@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.00P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 16pgdcdirjpkhtbnuuujfjfo987bpn9rp3@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.17P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall bqqgdc1v6ereclct9b0bicb6u2lanhhsdl@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--7.53P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╱ 2/2|7 A; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 26 { 6:33 P, 2017 }:21^(-4) Vუʇβ
Now I see the light, it's raining cats and dogs.
You ( Gregory_Hall ) replied ( to me ):
> > Fuck the Ten Commandments and Hippie Jesus.
> > Everyone chooses the LeastWorst option and hopes for the best.
> >
> > Quoting
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=define:least+worst
> >
> > Best out of a group which are all undesirable or of poor quality.
> > " Choosing the least worst option is your only escape. "
>
> The definition of worst is that there is nothing that is as bad.
>
> So saying least worst is illogical and impossible
> from a strict definition standpoint.
> The definition of worst precludes anything lesser. HTH
Do you reject _all idioms, or just "least worst" ?
Quoting
https://www.google.com/search?q=define:idiom
A group of words established by usage as having
a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words.
" Now I see the light, it's raining cats and dogs. "
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Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 5h5edch1o19t7a3kiq69996ofh4h4m0bb3@4ax.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ou5edc9rtvsd5qdpa8nhadflgmjongmolf@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FC6AF4.97519%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall i99edc1mouaam8u9r7515060b9bfssibhu@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.00P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 16pgdcdirjpkhtbnuuujfjfo987bpn9rp3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.17P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╱ 2/3|37 A; 2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 26 { 6: 5 P, 2017 }:31^(-4) Vუʂკ
Everyone chooses the LeastWorst option and hopes for the best;
> > Fuck the Ten Commandments and Hippie Jesus.
> > Everyone chooses the LeastWorst option and hopes for the best.
>
> LeastWorst? What an illiterate twit!
>
> There is a perfectly good word that has the same
> meaning of least worst. That word is worse.
>
> Saying LeastWorst is tantamount to saying
> PenultimateUltimate when penultimate is what you mean.
Wow, I thought you were more literate than that !
Quoting
https://www.google.com/search?q=define:least+worst
Best out of a group which are all undesirable or of poor quality.
" Choosing the least worst option is your only escape. "
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Sandman│mr@sandman_net sandman-b88116cdc5399060f61ce549ce3f91b8@individual.net
MrDFS yZuBA.109381$u84.50837@fx35.iad
Sandman│mr@sandman_net sandman-7bdd9321ed792024770a372658b61c6a@individual.net
MrDFS ob8lhb$ano$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.43P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q7ogdc186kp6gn6p1gk8u9sm8arn72acus@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.13P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/3|37 A; 18.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 26 { 5:49 P, 2017 }:22^(-4) Vუʀɒ
Binary servers are 5 times slower than INN servers and randomly fail.
Gregory_Hall wrote:
> Altopia puts them ALL to shame.
Telnet to Alt.NET and download 7,500 full articles,
headers and bodies... how long does it take ?
> Do you really want to putz around wasting your
> time and life with so-called free news servers
> that are just so dysfunctional that they make
> one want to pull out one's hair?
Of course not, never ! !
Glorb INN newsRead.Glorb.COM:119 username password
// $10/year, PayPal, Ohio. Glorb.COM/usenet.php
Individual INN News.Individual.NET:119 username password
// 10 Euros/year, PayPal, Germany.
AstraWeb NNTP US.News.AstraWeb.COM:119 username password
// $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal, Singapore.
BlockNews NNTP usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 username password
// $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.
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Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q73edchqi9nuni4bijdrfh1h8qpl7b1b37@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FC6009.97505%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 5h5edch1o19t7a3kiq69996ofh4h4m0bb3@4ax.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ou5edc9rtvsd5qdpa8nhadflgmjongmolf@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FC6AF4.97519%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall i99edc1mouaam8u9r7515060b9bfssibhu@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.00P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╱ 13/15|34 A; 21.9 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 25 { 7:25 P, 2017 }:48^(-4) VტЖɬ
Everyone chooses the LeastWorst option and hopes for the best;
Fuck the Ten Commandments and Hippie Jesus.
Everyone chooses the LeastWorst option and hopes for the best.
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Sandman│mr@sandman_net sandman-7a9175c494a910a2060148e0e0c0e029@individual.net
SteveCarroll 543a9a9a-a3f5-4cae-8dd5-fdd2c1125bab@googlegroups.com
Sandman│mr@sandman_net sandman-b88116cdc5399060f61ce549ce3f91b8@individual.net
MrDFS yZuBA.109381$u84.50837@fx35.iad
Sandman│mr@sandman_net sandman-7bdd9321ed792024770a372658b61c6a@individual.net
MrDFS ob8lhb$ano$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.43P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/1|300 T; 9.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 26 { 8:11 A, 2017 }:50^(-4) VუVწ
Binary servers are 5 times slower than INN servers and randomly fail.
MrDFS asked:
> How long to retrieve, say, 100K articles using 'suck'?
Binary servers are 5 times slower than INN servers and randomly fail.
Pay/UnCensored INN servers properly update NewsGroups (to recent posts).
My INN servers ( Glorb.COM and Individual.NET ) need about 1 minute
( sometimes less ) to download 7,500 full articles (headers and bodies);
my binary servers ( AstraWeb.COM and BlockNews.NET ) are 5 times slower.
"Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy" had less than 7,000 posts, last 30 days.
I pipeline 100 "Article" commands at a time.
To post, use I Glorb ( uncensored version ) or BlockNews;
because "Individual.NET" and "AstraWeb.COM" censor me.
"xsNews.NL" and "CheapNews.EU" also post OK, I think.
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Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 5s1edct3smk247ajmoui80m8hjv1kpm4m2@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FC5892.974E6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q73edchqi9nuni4bijdrfh1h8qpl7b1b37@4ax.com
MichaelGlasser D4FC6009.97505%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 5h5edch1o19t7a3kiq69996ofh4h4m0bb3@4ax.com
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ou5edc9rtvsd5qdpa8nhadflgmjongmolf@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--7.01P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╳ 4/4|31 A; 21 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 25 { 6:24 P, 2017 }: 6^(-4) Vტϼ6
Hippie Jesus.
Gregory Hall wrote:
> [ the Old Testament ] is supplanted by the New Testament.
Yes, and YouTube slackers supplanted (hippie) Jesus.
And so it goes, generation after generation.
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. sandman-7a9175c494a910a2060148e0e0c0e029@individual.net
. 543a9a9a-a3f5-4cae-8dd5-fdd2c1125bab@googlegroups.com
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-b88116cdc5399060f61ce549ce3f91b8@individual.net
MrDFS yZuBA.109381$u84.50837@fx35.iad
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--10.32A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS ob6gi4$qia$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--1.09P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers
╱ 1/4|308 T; 1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 25 { :34 P, 2017 }:13^(-4) VტΥϻ
nntpLib should send a block of NNTP commands, without pausing.
UnLike AstraWeb, BlockNews doesn't have the "Path:" line;
so you can't tell if the header data is fake or not.
AstraWeb has 7+ years history to BlockNews's 14+.
I think AstraWeb is faster, but I'm not sure.
US.News.AstraWeb.COM:119 // $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.
nntpLib should send a block of NNTP commands, without pausing, Mr. DFS;
otherwise, it's way, way slower.
telnet US.News.AstraWeb.COM 119
// Copy&Paste the next 2 lines, as a group.
AuthInfo User ***Jeff Relf Seattle
AuthInfo Pass ***Open Sesame
// Copy&Paste the next 4 lines, as a group.
Group comp.os.linux.advocacy
HEAD 1600669
HEAD 1600670
Quit
// You Get:
211 678622 922050 1600671 comp.os.linux.advocacy
221 1600669
Path: news.astraweb.com!....!news.highwinds-media.com!...!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:37:42 -0500
.....
Xref: news.astraweb.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:1600669
..
221 1600670
Path: news.astraweb.com!...!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
....
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SpittleSlime ob0i3b$p8q$1@dont-email.me
ScottDoty ejih93F93scU1@mid.individual.net
SpittleSlime ob139f$q27$2@dont-email.me
ScottDoty ejilvfF93scU2@mid.individual.net
SpittleSlime ob1bjf$qv0$1@dont-email.me
ScottDoty ejnjphF9dquU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--11.42A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╱ 1/1|100 A; 2.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Mar 25 { 9:22 A, 2017 }: 9 VტʣϷ
He thought, " Parliament made my wife too free and independent ".
Islam isn't fit for today's modern world, New York and Tokyo.
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Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-8f88d0ab4277f3511046db486b760d9d@individual.net
SteveCarroll ef5d6260-43e5-4278-a868-d1fa127d2ed5@googlegroups.com
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-7a9175c494a910a2060148e0e0c0e029@individual.net
SteveCarroll 543a9a9a-a3f5-4cae-8dd5-fdd2c1125bab@googlegroups.com
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-b88116cdc5399060f61ce549ce3f91b8@individual.net
MrDFS yZuBA.109381$u84.50837@fx35.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--10.32A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers
╱ 1/3|304 T; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds, Mar 25 { 7:17 A, 2017 }: 7^(-4) Vტʎс
You can send a block of NNTP commands, "pipelined", without pausing.
MrDFS asked Sandman:
> it took me /forever/ to download using python and nntplib and xhdr/head/body, etc.
> Mostly, I grabbed _One ( ! ! ) header at a time for a range of articles.
> Does suck retrieve a range of articles and put all headers and bodies into one file?
There is no NNTP command to download a _Range of "Articles",
headers and/or bodies; but you can send a block of commands,
"pipelined", without pausing; to wit:
Article 1
Article 2
Article 3
...
Article 100
NNTP servers respond by sending these articles, 1 to 100, without pausing.
And that's what my newsreader does, 100 at a time,
getting thousands of posts. It's _Many times faster ! !
The "." line ends each "Article|Head".
When a line begins with "..", you have to remove the leading ".".
These days, I use AstraWeb.COM to download posts,
and to update a NewsGroup ( to the latest post );
Individual.NET is soooo much slower, it's too painful to use.
Generally, xPat doesn't work anymore; use xHdr instead.
If you hit AstraWeb at a certain time of day, once a day,
it needs 4 minutes to update a NewsGroup ( to the latest );
i.e. it "burps" ( fails ), so you have to try again later.
My newsreader flags it, so I can wait it out.
Also, my newsreader ensures that a server has sent me
an intact line|header, not just part of a line|header;
No line can exceed OneMegaByte.
The header, all lines, is also limited to OneMegaByte.
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JohnGohde 2a7e7b9f-a445-49e9-b07a-55e7b830ec05@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 95b384e2-da96-4cce-a987-e6202f628b65@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--10.06P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
+-, 50 Minutes, GoogleG, 91.223.82.156, Mar 24 { 8:57 P, 2017 }:23^(PDT) Vტdδ
Neither Trump nor Obama can do much about it.
Health Issues and Costs are so random, like a dice toss,
-- some get double sixes, others get snake eyes --
that it throws a wrench into our otherwise "Just and Fair" society.
Neither Trump nor Obama can do much about it.
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HerbertGlazier 0831e7e3-6e1a-4fc1-b10f-84a62f6e27db@googlegroups.com
MrAA 4fce0dd1-5c95-4a72-b852-d00a56197d5d@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier d8390fc9-4599-4935-97cc-4ef8269faa79@googlegroups.com
MrAA 674cd7be-af2f-4fd9-8180-8f5f7348f3f6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--3.33P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 2/2|156 T; 52 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 24 { 2:30 P, 2017 }:29^(PDT) VსოT
Did ClimateChange KillOff the dinosaurs ?
Did ClimateChange KillOff the dinosaurs ?
Quoting
http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/microsites/dino/02-dinosaur-extinction-theories/climate-change.html
Perhaps the warm, wet climate gradually changed
to a drier, cooler one. In many areas, the fossil record
shows tropical vegetation was replaced by woodland plants.
Once again, it is possible that the dinosaurs were
not adapted to the new environment and, therefore, became extinct.
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SpittleSlime ob0fmj$g1h$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV u4h7dcpkvddl0k6iic5tvdpftdu2js0ej5@4ax.com
SpittleSlime ob0i3b$p8q$1@dont-email.me
ScottDoty ejih93F93scU1@mid.individual.net
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--0.09P.Seattle.2017
Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_ ob1764$im9$12@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--1.40P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╱ 1/1|21 D; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 23 { :20 P, 2017 }:36 Vსȿʜ
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
> > Rogue terrorists come from failed states,
> > and, as far as I know, no one claims WWII Jews had _a state,
> > any state, much less a failed one, with rogue terrorists.
> >
> > Do you invite murders and rapists to your parties ?
> > If not, you shouldn't _force others to do so.
>
> Well, well, would you look at that! Relf's a rightard,
> on top of his numerous other failings.
How so ? I recently disagreed with Captain Piss Bucket; see:
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--0.20P.Seattle.2017
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
No one is "lying" per se, nor is the government;
we're all just defending our own special set of "truths".
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Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ dqidneUeVPZMdE_FnZ2dnUU7-LfNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrChrisV 9de7dctid3hgnn6lqmu00v0a4ra7ov2ee8@4ax.com
SpittleSlime ob0fmj$g1h$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV u4h7dcpkvddl0k6iic5tvdpftdu2js0ej5@4ax.com
SpittleSlime ob0i3b$p8q$1@dont-email.me
ScottDoty ejih93F93scU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--0.09P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Checkmate
╱ 1/1|116 A; 36 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Mar 23 { 11: 8 A, 2017 }:36 Vსzʜ
Do you invite murders and rapists to your parties ?
Scott Doty wrote:
> there really isn't much being said about [ WWII Jews ]
> that isn't being said about Muslims now.
Rogue terrorists come from failed states,
and, as far as I know, no one claims WWII Jews had _a state,
any state, much less a failed one, with rogue terrorists.
Do you invite murders and rapists to your parties ?
If not, you shouldn't _force others to do so.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--4.11P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh a102e81f-e3c4-4601-8748-8884046cc40c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.21A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|134 A; 19 Minutes, GoogleG, 178.32.53.94, Mar 23 { 9:55 A, 2017 }: 6^(PDT) Vსnȸ
I am not now, nor have I ever been, lonely.
TakuyaSaitoh told me:
> You must be really missing your kids, Jeff... It's heartbreaking
> when the only companion of an aging man is computer.
> ....
> You can meet a dozen of better chicks at Redtube in real time
> and they would do as you say for a few pennies...
I am not now, nor have I ever been, lonely.
I don't miss my kids, and they don't miss me.
I don't want to fuck Emma, I just think she's sassy/funny.
She hates me, after _one tweet, so I UnSubscribed to her channel.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--4.11P.Seattle.2017
Skang│skang@yahoo_com 737bb9eb60bcf60038b9b74ea19d936a@dizum.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.06A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|1 D; 3.1 Hours, BadRig, Dizum.NET➤Dizum.COM, Mar 23 { 6: 6 A, 2017 }:33^(CET) VსBX
Bye Emma.
Someone replied ( to me ):
> > I like ( 24 years old ) YouTube personality EmmaBlackery.
> > She was raised by a super cool, super old dad -- no mom;
> > he's 75 years old and often appears in her videos ( he's like me ).
> >
> > Likely, that's what attracted me to her;
> > she's sassy, with an old man sense of humor ( from her dad ).
>
> She looks like she does heroin and sucks bush.
True.
So long as you're a _nice person who doesn't steal,
doesn't agressively beg, and doesn't annoy people...
then I don't care how much heroin you do. Overdose, if you want.
Emma's feminism/lesbianism doesn't bother me -- she's a modern girl;
however, this means that she hates me, so... Bye Emma.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.03A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
_uncensored/_pay INN servers don't fail, but binary servers do.
[ The following was sent to Jethro van Ginkel, Usenet.Farm's admin ]
You ( Jethro van Ginkel ) asked me:
> Can you mail us in an other format ?
> Every mail from you exists out 1 line.
From now on, I'll send you PlainText, not HTML.
My email had a tag for MonoSpaced glyphs/fonts,
and to serve NewLines/WhiteSpace;
despite that, your HTML decoder stripped out my NewLines;
-- none of my lines were over 72 columns.
> > A post I made via UsenetFarm took 30+ minutes to appear;
> > UsenetFarm got it immediately, but not the NewsGroup.
>
> What does this mean? Can you provide an example?
> I don't understand what "but not the NewsGroup" means.
Only INN servers _properly update NewsGroups ( to recent posts ),
not binary servers. AstraWeb works _amazingly well,
with recent posts ( under 5 minutes ), but not as well as INN servers.
INN: Individual.NET, 10 Euros/year, PayPal, Germany.
INN: Glorb.COM/usenet.php, $10/year, PayPal, Ohio.
Binary: AstraWebCOM, $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal, Singapore.
UsenetFarm gets posts on time, _no delays; despite that,
30+ minutes might pass before a NewsGroup is informed.
I use 9 MessageIDs to BookMark where I left off;
so I can/do update a NewsGroup using whatever server,
with whatever ArticleNumbers.
If any of the 9 are missing, or out of order,
a flag is thrown, so I can investigate and correct it;
_uncensored/_pay INN servers don't fail, but binary servers do.
AstraWeb updates NewsGroups better than the other binary servers,
but it occasionally "burps" ( fails ), so I have to try again later;
minutes may pass before the NewsGroup can be _properly updated.
So far, with my recent testing, AstraWeb has "burped" once a day,
last 4 days -- I wait a bit, then try again, and it works _fine.
> And about the Date header.
> Can you provide a message id and what you
> post to us so we can look into this?
MessageID: Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.35A.Seattle.2017
My newsreader sent:
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2017 14:35:39 -0700 (Seattle)
But it was _Replace with:
Date: 18 Mar 17 14:35 CET
-- "2017" is much clearer than just "17".
-- "-0700" is a _Proper TimeZone -- "CET" isn't !
"Mon" and "(Seattle)" are for us humans,
they don't affect the date calculation.
Like "EDT", "CET" is parochial, EuroCentric, not global/official.
EDT: GMT - 5 Eastern Daylight Time ( New York ).
EDT: GMT - 4 Tiempo de verano del Este ( Puerto Rico ).
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--4.11P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
Bye Emma.
I like ( 24 years old ) YouTube personality EmmaBlackery.
She was raised by a super cool, super old dad -- no mom;
he's 75 years old and often appears in her videos ( he's like me ).
Likely, that's what attracted me to her;
she's sassy, with an old man sense of humor ( from her dad ).
However, 90% of her YouTube followers are teenagers, mainly girls.
She's into twitter, big time; shortly after I first tweeted her, I got:
You are blocked from viewing @EmmaBlackery's Tweets.
Oh well, back to Usenet, with you crotchety old codgers.
I UnSubscribed, UnFollowed her... Bye Emma.
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Fabian oatjhi0tau@news6.newsguy.com
MrDFS oature$jjb$1@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll fb32e85b-e63c-4a6d-8858-29da3964bd71@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oau73g$hr6$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--11.10A.Seattle.2017
SpittleSlime oauohn$mil$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--2.51P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/3|288 K; 29 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 22 { 2: 1 P, 2017 }:24^(-4) Vრλɔ
A UserControlled "birth control implant" that lasts 16 years.
What's wrong with a UserControlled "birth control implant"
that lasts 16 years, Mr. SpittleSlime ?
Do you fear that it means fewer slaves to boss around ?
more independent women ? fewer impoverished kids ? what ?
Are you worried that, unlike your censorious server,
it might cost money ? Comrade RMS wouldn't like that;
capitalist pig Bill Gates, on the other hand, funds it.
Quoting
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279323.php
The chip dispenses 30 mcg of levonorgestrel every
day, and can hold enough of the hormone to do this
for up to 16 years.
When a woman wishes to conceive, she simply turns off
the device with a remote. The chip would not need to
be removed from the woman until 16 years of use have elapsed.
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JohnSefton 804ec65b-0e30-4354-81d1-ca17acd462df@googlegroups.com
MichaelMoroney oau23j$4h6$1@pcls7.std.com
JohnSefton b7f93db3-0093-46c7-8f1b-b8749c5482c4@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton 16f3ddfd-1c78-4229-a6df-9a9f0411ad82@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com oaue75$h4o$1@gioia.aioe.org
hVac 047b3935-1412-4c97-adb6-6092d89410cb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--1.58P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|180 K; 15 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.61.20.172, Mar 22 { 1:28 P, 2017 }:40^(PDT) VრεЦ
Usenet is all play and no work.
hVac wrote:
> John and a couple others here don't make a distinction between
> their faith, their religion, their magic and their science.
Good Point, only I'd say:
Science is hard; it requires work, time, and money.
People would rather kick back, munch popcorn, and write SciFi.
Usenet is all play and no work.
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Fabian oatjhi0tau@news6.newsguy.com
MrDFS oature$jjb$1@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll fb32e85b-e63c-4a6d-8858-29da3964bd71@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oau73g$hr6$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--11.10A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 2/2|314 T; 49 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 22 { 9: 3 A, 2017 }:58^(-4) VრʠϞ
CostFree servers have bizarre, backward policies.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to Steve Carroll ):
> > That [ DFS's ] data isn't complete is a bummer.
> > I guess the days of good, free servers are long gone.
>
> BlockNews.NET has COLA going back to July 2003 (1.35M articles).
> It's not free, but it's inexpensive.
You get what you pay for; you don't have hundreds of my _Recent posts.
CostFree servers have bizarre, backward policies banning
HTML, Base64, CharSets, Quoted Printable, UTF-8, UTF-16, etc.,
from Google Groups, Mozilla ThunderBird, and/or MicroSoft Outlook,
because the "Unix Beards" that run them can't learn today's protocols.
Most of these admins are toe jam eaters, like Richard Stallman,
-- Bill Gates haters -- yes, they hate the _Richest man in the world,
as if he were some kind of criminal. It's backwards, in the extreme.
BlockNews's $3 for 5 gigs, via PayPal, lasts 99+ years;
if that's too much, and you want to pay _Zero dollars,
then you have to endure censorship and dropped posts, recent posts.
I wouldn't use a binary server to update a NewsGroup ( to recent posts );
too many long, sporatic delays/fails. AstraWeb works _amazingly well,
with recent posts ( under 5 minutes ), but not as well as INN servers.
INN: News.Individual.NET, 10 Euros/year, PayPal, Germany.
INN: Glorb.COM/usenet.php, $10/year, PayPal, Ohio.
Binary: AstraWebCOM, $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal, Singapore.
To post, I use BlockNews or Glorb ( uncensored version );
because "Individual.NET" and "AstraWeb.COM" censor me.
I could also post via "xsNews.NL" and "CheapNews.EU", no problem.
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Fabian oatjhi0tau@news6.newsguy.com
MrDFS oature$jjb$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--8.40A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 2/6|311 T; 52 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 22 { 6:43 A, 2017 }:10^(-4) Vრʉȼ
I can/do update a NewsGroup using whatever server.
Mr. DFS's Usenet Archive updater ( to an SQL DataBase ):
> connecting to news.eternal-september.org...
> Latest ID in local system : 637386 ( USENET.sqlite )
> Latest ID on Usenet server: 637803 ( news.eternal-september.org )
> 417 articles available to download
I use 9 MessageIDs to BookMark where I left off;
so I can/do update a NewsGroup using whatever server,
with whatever ArticleNumbers.
If any of the 9 are missing, or out of order,
a flag is thrown, so I can investigate and correct it;
uncensored INN servers don't fail, but binary servers do.
AstraWeb updates NewsGroups better than the other binary servers,
but it occasionally "burps" ( fails ), so I have to try again later;
minutes may pass before the NewsGroup can be _properly updated.
So far, with my recent testing, AstraWeb has burped once a day,
last 3 days.
To post, I use BlockNews or Glorb ( uncensored version );
because "Individual.NET" and "AstraWeb.COM" censor me.
Quoting my newsreader's default settings ( Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM ):
// Only INN servers _properly update NewsGroups ( to recent posts ),
// not binary servers.
Individual INN News.Individual.NET:119 username password
// 10 Euros/year, PayPal, Germany.
Glorb INN newsRead.Glorb.COM:119 username password
// $10/year, PayPal, Ohio. Glorb.COM/usenet.php
// To post, use BlockNews or Glorb ( uncensored version );
// because "Individual.NET" and "AstraWeb.COM" censor you.
BlockNews NNTP usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 username password
// No "Path:" ( never ). 14+ year Archive. $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.
// AstraWeb can be used update NewsGroups but, occasionally,
// it "burps" ( fails ), so you have to try again later;
// minutes may pass before the NewGroup can be _properly updated.
AstraWeb NNTP US.News.AstraWeb.COM:119 username password
// "Path:" is pristine ( always ). 7+ year Archive.
// CrossPosting is limited to 2 groups. Posts Good "From:".
// $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.
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ChrisAhlstrom oaqtrl$uol$2@dont-email.me
MrChrisV lo62dcp6brjnqndg67dl2l21ilg6bn8nlq@4ax.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny 7JqdnQzVrc-YskzFnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oarehu$tek$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny 2didnTOjjJ0MyUzFnZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oattd0$ed5$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.33A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 6/8|308 T; 24 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 22 { 6:18 A, 2017 }:43^(-4) Vრʅh
If Google can't do it, then neither can toe jam eating basement dwellers.
You ( MrDFS ) wrote:
> Google.COM/search?&q= google replace linux kernel
Google _might combine Android and Chome OS's,
but they won't toss the Linux kernel/ecosystem;
no, they're just toying with kernels, as one does.
> Says the absolute moron who just concluded that Microsoft's "influence
> is going down down down" because ONE Windows person posts in a Linux group.
Who's the _one person, me ?
I use Windows exclusively, no Mac nor Linux.
> Let me repeat: "Only in the lurid dreams of starry-eyed Linux fanbois
> does that crappy LibreOffice stand a chance in hell of replacing MS Office."
Google's Androids and ChromeBooks, are TouchScreenCentric;
so they aren't fit for the professional desktop/office market,
where people use monitor arms and MultiButton mice.
If Google can't do it, then neither can toe jam eating basement dwellers.
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BenJacoby 58d07212$0$13181$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com
hVac 36063cb0-c1d9-495e-b1c0-03b6b7ae3acc@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--8.14A.Seattle.2017
MrAA 282e96a1-1ec9-48ec-bf7f-67ba813dda71@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--3.12P.Seattle.2017
Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com c687ac7c-d0a7-4878-b656-f210767b76d0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--4.52P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Atheism
╱ 1/1|30 D; 2 Minutes, GoogleG, 108.31.152.178, Mar 21 { 4:20 P, 2017 }:50^(PDT) Vჟჯʪ
Princeton's 5 octave carillon ( 35 bells, in a Gothic tower ).
You ( Mahipal ) replied ( to MrAA and me ):
> > > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein_Snowy_Campus.JPG
> > >
> > > The church steeple in the background lends an aura of divinity.
> >
> > I think the "church steeple" is a campus building;
> > he have buildings like that here, at the Univ. of Wash.
>
> It's the church steeple at Princeton University.
> I used to walk there often.
No, it's Princeton's 5 octave carillon, the Cleveland Tower
( 35 bells, in a Gothic tower, played like a piano ).
We have one like it here, at the Univ. of Wash., it sounds nice.
BYU ( Provo Utah ) has one too, but it's not Gothic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Tower
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BenJacoby 58cf6049$0$51776$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com
hVac 22bf4a93-3444-4e90-8034-79883a922552@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58d07212$0$13181$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com
hVac 36063cb0-c1d9-495e-b1c0-03b6b7ae3acc@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--8.14A.Seattle.2017
MrAA 282e96a1-1ec9-48ec-bf7f-67ba813dda71@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--3.12P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/8|159 T; 30 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 21 { 2:32 P, 2017 }: 3^(PDT) Vჟოɻ
The "church steeple" is a campus building.
You ( A.A. ) replied ( to me ):
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Einstein_Snowy_Campus.JPG
>
> Is that a cigar he is holding? I thought he smoked a pipe.
> The church steeple in the background lends an aura of divinity.
> Good picture!
Thanks and, no, it's a pipe. He's _very well read;
from a very young age he's been well versed in philosophy.
So the book could be anything, I don't know.
I think the "church steeple" is a campus building;
he have buildings like that here, at the Univ. of Wash.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--5.54P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 9pu2dcdpmbij6jvds5g2bavctcja0v1pmq@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--0.20P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 3nv2dcd6hn79as3jvovjppka9m8rcbo2ii@4ax.com
SpittleSlime oas2pe$97t$4@dont-email.me
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gh43dcpa2alhd798kgn2b5vebhgm459n81@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--1.59P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╳ 2/2|17 A; 2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 21 { 1:51 P, 2017 }:43^(-4) Vჟზψ
Kaczynski is not exactly a capitalist pig, right ?
Kaczynski is not exactly a capitalist pig, right ?
No matter if he's a communist or not,
he was _foolish enough to wind up in a commune/prison.
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Checkmate_DoW_#1│Lunatic_ MPG.3339a48b98f70f1e98fec7@news.altopia.com
MrChrisV fh20dc1uhin2auj1riq7b54o8pnh5ca338@4ax.com
ScottDoty ejaqhpFk1ndU15@mid.individual.net
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall l6k0dch4de2usetnfhmhusb5fsov8jg02g@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--5.54P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 9pu2dcdpmbij6jvds5g2bavctcja0v1pmq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--0.20P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|14 A; 58 Secs, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 21 { :14 P, 2017 }: 1^(-4) Vჟцɹ
Kaczynski is not exactly a capitalist pig, right ?
Captain Piss Bucket replied ( to me ):
> > Kaczynski found his communist wonderland, prison,
> > where everyone does the thinking for him.
>
> You show your abject ignorance, Jeffie-Po!
> Dr. Kaczynski is about as far away from being
> a communist as you are from being a physicist.
Kaczynski is not exactly a capitalist pig, right ?
No matter his intensions, he lives in a commune/prison
where everything is decided for him.
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BenJacoby 58cdd247$0$8270$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com
hVac 88357224-1a73-41b1-8407-0b7569c4152d@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58cf6049$0$51776$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com
hVac 22bf4a93-3444-4e90-8034-79883a922552@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58d07212$0$13181$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com
hVac 36063cb0-c1d9-495e-b1c0-03b6b7ae3acc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--8.14A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Atheism
╱ 1/1|176 K; 1 Minutes, GoogleG, 50.207.84.170, Mar 21 { 7:27 A, 2017 }:27^(PDT) VჟЖθ
Order in Nature.
Mr. hVac quacked:
> Taking the laws of the universe, bundling them up
> and calling them your god is your idea of sanity?
Einstein used the word "God" to describe mother nature;
like the JudeoChristian God, she's infinite, eternal,
(4D) static, unchanging, all knowing, and all powerful.
Speaking at the ＜Princeton Theological Seminary, May 19, 1939＞,
Einstein said: ＜＜
When the number of factors coming into play in
a phenomenological complex is too large,
scientific method, in most cases, fails us.
One need only think of the weather, in which case,
prediction even for a few days ahead is impossible.
Nevertheless no one doubts that we are confronted with
a causal connection whose causal components are,
in the main, known to us.
Occurrences in this domain are beyond the reach of _exact_
prediction because of the variety of factors in operation,
not because of any lack of order in nature. ＞＞
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Checkmate_DoW_#1│Lunatic_ MPG.3339a00f1290d2fd98fec6@news.altopia.com
ScottDoty ejae0pFk1ndU5@mid.individual.net
Checkmate_DoW_#1│Lunatic_ MPG.3339a48b98f70f1e98fec7@news.altopia.com
MrChrisV fh20dc1uhin2auj1riq7b54o8pnh5ca338@4ax.com
ScottDoty ejaqhpFk1ndU15@mid.individual.net
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall l6k0dch4de2usetnfhmhusb5fsov8jg02g@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--5.54P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|11 A; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 20 { 3:17 P, 2017 }:27^(-4) Vჟɦვ
Kaczynski found his communist wonderland, prison.
Kaczynski found his communist wonderland, prison,
where everyone does the thinking for him.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny w4idnVDvIdR1alLFnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com
MrChrisV qmuvcc9b8golb850691s49tsdptqkdip95@4ax.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny f82dnYAFWdtzj03FnZ2dnUU7-W2dnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oap5nk$630$2@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny -dmdncU5so-hpU3FnZ2dnUU7-V_NnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oapi5i$k2t$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--4.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/5|325 T; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 20 { 2:43 P, 2017 }:45^(-4) Vჟɡɩ
BleedingEdge hardware users aren't running archaic software.
BleedingEdge hardware users aren't running archaic software.
Kaby Lake ( 7th generation Core i7 ) requires all new drivers;
older ones don't work. Which distros support it ?
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MichaelMoroney oahqhv$lv1$4@pcls7.std.com
JohnSefton fd2ad958-1443-44d0-83e7-7e79fd036de6@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton 579c4f33-4c00-4460-b76a-36b2b9ec700c@googlegroups.com
EdProchak ccb0ae48-7ff4-4066-ba9b-b37df145cccd@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.35A.Seattle.2017
EdProchak 62077f85-24ed-4b13-ad5f-ed995915e427@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--9.53A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/2|114 T; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Mar 20 { 8:29 A, 2017 }:49^(PDT) VჟYძ
Hollywood is paid billions to spit in the face of science/truth.
You ( EdProchak ) replied ( to me ):
> > John Sefton won't bow down to experimental evidence.
> > UnlessAndUntil he does, with all humility, he can't learn and improve.
>
> Jeff, you actually posted something on topic.
> Congratulations!
I read all your posts, always; but, lets face it,
we're actually discussing CrankPsychology, not physics.
Usenet is all play, no work; otherwise, we wouldn't be here.
Hollywood is paid billions to spit in the face of science/truth;
and John Sefton wants some of _that, not science.
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. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--8.04P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--4.59A.Seattle.2017
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny M5GdnWSAQeIHNlPFnZ2dnUU7-TGdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--11.19A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 2/2|399 D; 47 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, GigaNews➤Giganews.COM, Mar 19 { 9: 2 A, 2017 }:34^(-5) Vპʠʚ
I'm now using AstraWeb, a binary server, to update NewsGroups.
You ( Marek Novotny ) replied ( to me ):
> > Test 4
>
> There are testing groups you know...
Yes, I posted to Alt.Test as well.
To update NewsGroups, I use " Glorb.COM/usenet.php ";
however the owner, Geoff Brozny, might take it offline.
" Usenet.BlueWorldHosting.COM ", once my back up server,
is now offline, dead.
So I've been trying AstraWeb, a binary server, to update NewsGroups;
a post gets dropped occasionally ( when busy ? ),
but it's hard to debug because I can't make it happen on demand.
AstraWeb is based in Singapore but has servers in America and Europe.
They're the _only binary server that doesn't trash the "Path:" line,
needed to flag/investigate fake headers.
Also, they're the only server that allows a clean "From:" line,
with _No email address -- and they don't bork the "Date:" line,
as UsenetFarm does. CrossPosting is limited to 2 groups.
AstraWeb has 7+ years of Cola posts; UsenetFarm and BlockNews
have 14+ years, but no "Path:" line and they force you to
have an email address in the "From:" line and, occasionally,
30+ minutes will pass before a NewsGroup gets updated.
To test UsenetFarm, I had to buy 500 gigs ( 15 Euros ),
which should last 2,500 lifetimes.
AstraWeb cost me just $10 for 25 gigs, PayPal,
which will last me 100 lifetimes.
AstraWeb is usually BlazingFast, instant, but not always;
at times, it takes 1 second ( instead of Zero )
to update a 12 hour stale NewsGroup, bodies and all.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.56A.Seattle.2017
SpittleSlime oajm96$lsd$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--10.50A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann oajsc7$bgp$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny baSdnc1uCoTKDlDFnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com
ChrisAhlstrom oalt3o$6pp$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--6.44A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|100 D; 53 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 19 { 5:16 A, 2017 }:42^(-4) VპɺШ
Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, RMS eats toe jam.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> There's a raft of useful and cool computer technologies
> that people don't even know enough to miss:
>
> - Music servers (xmms2, mpd)
WinAmp is all I need, no server.
I have no problem finding/getting the music I want; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MyPlayList.HTM
> - GIMP
I use GIMP ( on Win10 ) most every day,
including just now, to create:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG
> - LibreOffice
I use Excel and Word 2016 most every day.
> - Window managers and desktops
Other than the TaskBar, my desktop is all black, nothing else;
instead, I use ordinary folders.
One click ( of a special mouse button ) minimizes all windows.
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> - Virtual screens
Don't know, Don't care.
> And for people that are not just "consumers":
>
> - Powerful programmers editor (vi/vim, emacs)
I'm using Visual Studio 2017 right now, to write this; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG
> - Document generation tools (LaTeX, Docbooks, Doxygen, markdown)
I edit HTML and CSS most every day. I write PostScript ( .PDF ).
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
> - GNU development tools
GNU is for those who can't learn today's tech.
Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, RMS eats toe jam.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.56A.Seattle.2017
SpittleSlime oajm96$lsd$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--10.50A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann oajsc7$bgp$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny baSdnc1uCoTKDlDFnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com
MichaelGlasser D4F2E5E3.9639C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.22P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|578 D; 4.6 Hours, MS_Entourage➤Mac, Individual.NET, Mar 18 { 1:25 P, 2017 }:55^(-7) Vოგɳ
Marek Novotny and Peter Kohlmann are projecting their _weaknesses onto me.
Marek Novotny and Peter Köhlmann are projecting their _weaknesses onto me;
I control my copy of Windows 10, far more than they could ever dream of,
more than they control their copy of Linux.
Malware simply isn't an issue for me, never has been.
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SpittleSlime oai763$cuj$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS oaj9jj$aie$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.56A.Seattle.2017
SpittleSlime oajm96$lsd$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--10.50A.Seattle.2017
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny baSdndJuCoTqD1DFnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.55P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|378 D; 4.8 Hours, slrn➤Linux, GigaNews➤Giganews.COM, Mar 18 { 1: 3 P, 2017 }: 3^(-5) VოюΘ
Linux isn't easier.
You ( Marek_Novotny ) replied ( to me ):
> > I've been using Windows 10 for a year now.
> > I never get malware, not ever, never.
>
> So turn off Windows Defender and don't use any virus protection for the
> next month. Let's see how Windows does for you. That's how I run Linux.
> Are you willing to run Windows like I run Linux and see how it goes?
I've run WindowsDefender a few times, in my life, just to check,
but I _never leave it on and I've _never used anything else.
I can run Windows10 with out ads or malware, you can't.
And if you can't do that, what can you do ? Linux isn't easier.
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MrDFS oahptm$94o$3@dont-email.me
SpittleSlime oai763$cuj$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS oaj9jj$aie$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.56A.Seattle.2017
SpittleSlime oajm96$lsd$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--10.50A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/7|191 K; 1.4 Hours, KNode, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 18 { 9:15 A, 2017 }:14^(-4) VოШΤ
I never get malware, not ever, never.
You ( SpittleSlime ) replied ( to me ):
> > Windows 10 doesn't force ads on me.
>
> Not yet.
I've been using Windows 10 for a year now.
I never get malware, not ever, never.
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JohnSefton 64d6f9bd-6c83-4a47-ac94-7e9233a19aa3@googlegroups.com
MichaelMoroney oahqhv$lv1$4@pcls7.std.com
JohnSefton fd2ad958-1443-44d0-83e7-7e79fd036de6@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton 579c4f33-4c00-4460-b76a-36b2b9ec700c@googlegroups.com
EdProchak ccb0ae48-7ff4-4066-ba9b-b37df145cccd@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.35A.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.44A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|89 T; 0 Secs, X.HTM⁻HTML, Usenet.Farm, Mar 18 { 6:36 A, 2017 }:11^CET VოϾB
Arrogance is ugly.
Arrogance is ugly.
Even the ugliest old man, full of deformities, mental and physical,
is more beautiful than a supermodel, if she's more arrogant than him.
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Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com oahaf3$19ai$2@gioia.aioe.org
JohnSefton 64d6f9bd-6c83-4a47-ac94-7e9233a19aa3@googlegroups.com
MichaelMoroney oahqhv$lv1$4@pcls7.std.com
JohnSefton fd2ad958-1443-44d0-83e7-7e79fd036de6@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton 579c4f33-4c00-4460-b76a-36b2b9ec700c@googlegroups.com
EdProchak ccb0ae48-7ff4-4066-ba9b-b37df145cccd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.35A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 7/7|117 T; 6.6 Hours, GoogleG, 174.130.16.89, Mar 17 { 11:52 P, 2017 }:57^(PDT) VოΝз
John Sefton won't bow down to experimental evidence.
John Sefton won't bow down to experimental evidence.
UnlessAndUntil he does, with all humility, he can't learn and improve.
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MrDFS oahptm$94o$3@dont-email.me
SpittleSlime oai763$cuj$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS oaj9jj$aie$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.56A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|321 T; 3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 18 { 5:40 A, 2017 }:13^(-4) Vოϴϻ
Windows 10 doesn't force ads on me.
Windows 10 doesn't force ads on me.
If you can't configure it properly, Linux won't help you.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny P-ednWJ7oO6AvlHFnZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com
Owl shvuz900gq.v@rooftop.invalid
Slimer oahgno$b16$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny 6fGdnSM-zN7zH1HFnZ2dnUU7-amdnZ2d@giganews.com
Slimer oai7sj$efe$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS oaj918$8hm$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.43A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/4|320 T; 5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 18 { 5:29 A, 2017 }:55^(-4) Vოϲჱ
Has Mr. SpittleSlime tried "Windows Defender" ?
Mr. SpittleSlime has to listen to ads even when his browser is closed.
He's doing _something wrong, I've never had that problem.
Has he tried "Windows Defender" ?
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SteveCarroll 1242c8d1-c498-4f20-8c29-7d9492afbee1@googlegroups.com
owl│owl@rooftopΞinvalid llaci00q.abh@rooftop.invalid
Slimer oagm8o$6ss$2@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftopΞinvalid aivbz3.ax9b@rooftop.invalid
Slimer oagsvr$vim$1@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid jhkv003a.by8@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--8.23A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|194 K; 3 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop, Mar 17 { 8: 9 A, 2017 }:43 VოVψ
Younger, less technical "girls" prefer iPhone apps like Twitter.
Usenet is mainly old techies, like myself.
Younger, less technical "girls" prefer iPhone apps like Twitter.
Both have their place, I think.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--5.23A.Seattle.2017
Alt.Free.Newsservers, News.Software.Readers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
Bill Gates haters, Richard Stallman and Ray Banana.
Jethro van Ginkel ( the Dutch "Usenet.Farm" admin ) replied ( to me ):
> > Given a MessageID, how do I get a _valid ArticleNumber ?
>
> You can't at the moment. We are using the headers from xsnews as they
> have around 1000 days of header retention. We are working, this year,
> on our own header platform and then this will work.
>
> In the 1,5 years that we are live, you are the first one with this request.
> May I ask why you need this?
> How do you use usenet that you need to user article numbers?
I read TextOnly newsgroups ( Sci.Physics )... to _BookMark where I left off,
my newsreader records the 9 most recent MessageIDs ( one is enough, normally ),
so I can resume later, using _Whatever server, with _Whatever ArticleNumbers.
Despite spending much time, money and effort, I found _No binary server
that offers _valid "xRef:" data. Normally, "xPat" doesn't work.
Occasionally, it hangs, as if it were trying !
InterNetNews (INN) servers ( Individual.NET, Eternal-September.ORG,
Aioe.ORG, Albasani.NET, Glorb.COM, BlueWorldHosting.COM, etc. )
don't have these problems.
Most of the INN servers have bizarre, backward policies banning
HTML, Base64, CharSets, Quoted Printable, UTF-8, UTF-16, etc.,
from Google Groups, Mozilla ThunderBird, and/or MicroSoft Outlook,
because the "Unix Beards" that run them won't learn today's protocols.
Most of these admins are toe jam eaters, like Richard Stallman,
-- Bill Gates haters -- yes, they hate the _Richest man in the world,
as if he were some kind of criminal. It's backwards, in the extreme.
To overcome these problems, listed above,
I'll try getting 50 MessageIDs at a time, repeatedly,
until I find the one I want ( the _BookMark ); to wit:
NNTP_Command( L"xHdr Message-ID %I64d-%I64d", LowArtNum, HighArtNum );
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--1.12P.Seattle.2017
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid phjvz003.byu34@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--6.45P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 6afc4759-674f-4ef4-8da1-7bf7f0d62ff8@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--3.20A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh b26353f5-146e-4e82-805e-35bc3e8aa2f9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--6.13A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|143 A; 27 Minutes, GoogleG, 151.80.38.67, Mar 16 { 5: 7 A, 2017 }:36^(PDT) Vნɹɠ
How costly, money or effort ?
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) replied ( to me ):
> > Why aren't you using your special server, instead of GoogleGroups ?
>
> Posting is costly, I use it only for reading/archiving.
> My archives of some groups go back more than 15 years...
How costly, money or effort ?
> > "NNTP Server Setup ( IIS 6.0 )":
> > https://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/58a23f17-5680-4d02-893e-2e0bf70e43ad.mspx?mfr=true
>
> you at the mercy of Microsoft with this, no sources, no control over
> licensing and updates, always has to be reporting and paying to Redmond....
MicroSoft is just one option, there are many others.
> I can "freeze" my Linux system at any time and stop updating
> and it will run the same forever or until the hardware wheels fall off.
> Yo cannot do this with M$ Jeff.
Why would I do that ? To save money ?
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Fabian 8d27fe65-4973-41b2-bb9e-115edabad226@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--0.19P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--1.12P.Seattle.2017
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid phjvz003.byu34@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--6.45P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 6afc4759-674f-4ef4-8da1-7bf7f0d62ff8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--3.20A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/1|142 A; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 149.202.98.161, Mar 16 { 1:41 A, 2017 }: 5^(PDT) Vნɖп
Why aren't you using your special server, instead of GoogleGroups ?
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) replied ( to me ):
> > > Only INN servers return an ArticleNumner, given a MessageID.
>
> Well, Linux advocates can always run their own INN server,
> or a LEAFNODE server as I'm doing.
Why aren't you using your special server, instead of GoogleGroups ?
> - try that under Windoze - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha....
No problem, Windows users have plenty of options there.
"NNTP Server Setup ( IIS 6.0 )":
https://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/58a23f17-5680-4d02-893e-2e0bf70e43ad.mspx?mfr=true
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. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--8.52A.Seattle.2017
. oabfas$kha$3@dont-email.me
. 8d27fe65-4973-41b2-bb9e-115edabad226@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--0.19P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--1.12P.Seattle.2017
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid phjvz003.byu34@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--6.45P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|2 V; 23 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Mar 15 { 6:10 P, 2017 }:32 VნBО
BlockNews/HighWinds' headers have no "Path:" or "xRef:" data.
You ( owl ) replied ( to me ):
> > Only INN servers return an ArticleNumner, given a MessageID.
> >
> > BlockNews/HighWinds' headers have no "Path:" or "xRef:" data,
> > and "xPat" doesn't work ! ! so I have to "xHdr Message-ID ArticleNumber",
> > repeatedly, until I (slowly) find the bookmark/MessageID.
>
> Why not call xhdr with a range instead of repeated calls?
Yes, I could go 50 at a time, 1,000 deep; but
I'd rather use an INN server, so it doesn't really matter.
All binary servers are odd, like that, not just HighWinds;
to wit: "AstraWeb.COM" and "TweakNews.EU".
I'm not sure about GigaNews, it's been awhile since I last tried it,
and they don't sell Blocks/Gigs.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny i8udnXb-muPH_1TFnZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oabr37$6bm$4@dont-email.me
Fabian a454a74f-070b-4af6-9b42-6f367af35b0e@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oacgkp$1ai$4@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--4.22P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oackd5$fve$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--6.17P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/3|330 T; 5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 15 { 4:55 P, 2017 }:42^(-4) Vმჵɦ
You're not celibate ? !
You ( DFS ) asked me:
> Boyfriend ? Celibate since the divorce decades ago ?
Celibate; and I've more than enough (platonic) friends.
You're not celibate ? !
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny uLqdnZrEwozs7FTFnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com
William_Poaster│wp@dev_null 7oropd-ei1.ln1@debian.machineone.org
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny jI-dnQaEXJzkWVTFnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oachc6$7du$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--4.27P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oackac$fve$1@dont-email.me
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--5.58P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--6.10P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|330 T; 7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 15 { 4:54 P, 2017 }:13^(-4) VმჵD
isLeapYear = !(yr%400) || yr%100 && !(yr%4);
Make that:
isLeapYear = !(yr%400) || yr%100 && !(yr%4);
It _is a leap year if the year _is divisible by 400,
_or: " it's _not divisible by 100 _And it _is divisible by 4 ".
The Logical "&&" operator returns a 1 or 0.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny uLqdnZrEwozs7FTFnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com
William_Poaster│wp@dev_null 7oropd-ei1.ln1@debian.machineone.org
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny jI-dnQaEXJzkWVTFnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oachc6$7du$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--4.27P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oackac$fve$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--5.45P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|330 T; 7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 15 { 4:54 P, 2017 }:13^(-4) VმჵD
Marek's "C Operators" CheatSheat sucks.
You ( MrDFS ) asked me:
> How many parens are excessive? 2 more than are actually required!
>
> int isleapyear(int yr) {
> if(((yr%4==0) && (yr%100!=0)) || (yr%400==0))
> {return 0;} return -1; }
I know the precedence, so I'd do it like this:
int isLeapYear( int yr ) { return ( yr%400 && ( !(yr%100) || yr%4 ) )*-1; }
The left side of the "&&" is false when the year _is divisible by 400;
and, due to "Short-circuit evaluation", the right side is ignored;
e.g. year 400 isn't a leap year.
It's _is a leap year if the year is _not divisible by 400,
_and: " it's divisible by 100 _Or it's _not divisible by 4 ".
https://www.google.com/search?q=short+Circuit+evaluation
> > I occationally look up: Precedence of C Operators:
>
> Precedence is a far cry from m4r3K's simpleton operators
> cheat-sheet for 12-year-olds. http://imgur.com/a/5NE6F
OK, you're right, Marek's CheatSheat sucks.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny MoSdnRdgy7KR0lTFnZ2dnUU7-R_NnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oabr03$6bm$2@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny uLqdnZrEwozs7FTFnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com
William_Poaster│wp@dev_null 7oropd-ei1.ln1@debian.machineone.org
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny jI-dnQaEXJzkWVTFnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oachc6$7du$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--4.27P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|327 T; 10 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 15 { 4: 3 P, 2017 }:46^(-4) Vმწϑ
"C Operators" cheat-sheet.
MrDFS wrote:
> What you need to do is make one from that 'operators' cheat-sheet
> you have taped to the wall in front of your desk.
>
> When someone asks "Why do you need a cheat-sheet for that? Are you a
> special needs person?" you can answer proudly "No. I'm a Linux user!"
I occationally look up the RegEx rules ( for .NET and Visual Studio ):
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/2k3te2cs.aspx
To avoid excessive parenthesis, I occationally look up:
Precedence of C Operators:
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny Oeydnc3ib6FfBFXFnZ2dnUU7-cGdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oabkfm$u3o$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny i8udnXb-muPH_1TFnZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@giganews.com
MrDFS oabr37$6bm$4@dont-email.me
Fabian a454a74f-070b-4af6-9b42-6f367af35b0e@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oacgkp$1ai$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--4.22P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|327 T; 23 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 15 { 3:51 P, 2017 }:11^(-4) VმცΠ
Most everyone uses NTP servers to set the time.
Most everyone uses NTP servers to set the time; to wit:
Stratum 1: Time-NW.NIST.GOV, BigBen.CAC.Washington.EDU
Stratum 2: Tick.mtnLion.COM, Tock.mtnLion.COM
Pool: US.Pool.NTP.ORG
" womanless == mad " ? I don't think so, quite the opposite.
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hVac 42ebff63-968c-4370-860d-5e1f50530ea6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--2.07P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/4|172 K; 7.5 Hours, GoogleG, 24.218.23.30, Mar 15 { 6:28 A, 2017 }:20^(PDT) VმϼВ
"The Ides of March" was the first full moon of the new year.
> "Beware the Ides of March"
"The Ides of March" was the first full moon of the new year,
and carried more weight thousands of years ago,
then a lunar calander was used in Italy.
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MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9p7bt$qrj$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--8.52A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oabfas$kha$3@dont-email.me
Fabian 8d27fe65-4973-41b2-bb9e-115edabad226@googlegroups.com
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--0.19P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--1.12P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|241 D; 3.4 Hours, BadRig, Google.COM, Mar 15 { 8:32 A, 2017 }:30^(PDT) VმСʖ
BlockNews/HighWinds' headers have no "Path:" or "xRef:" data.
I meant to say:
Only INN servers return an ArticleNumner, given a MessageID.
BlockNews/HighWinds' headers have no "Path:" or "xRef:" data,
and "xPat" doesn't work ! ! so I have to "xHdr Message-ID ArticleNumber",
repeatedly, until I (slowly) find the bookmark/MessageID.
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MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9p7bt$qrj$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--8.52A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oabfas$kha$3@dont-email.me
Fabian 8d27fe65-4973-41b2-bb9e-115edabad226@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--0.19P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|241 D; 3.4 Hours, BadRig, Google.COM, Mar 15 { 8:32 A, 2017 }:30^(PDT) VმСʖ
I bought my $3, 5 gig BlockNews.NET account 7 years ago.
Fabian wrote:
> get Newsguy.com for an annual fee of $23.95.
How deep is the archive, 900 days ? they don't say.
A limited ( 500 gigs per month ) costs $145/year.
I bought my $3, 5 gig BlockNews.NET account 7 years ago;
so far, I've used less than 4% of the 5 gigs;
at this rate, it's good for _another 178 years.
If you want a yearly rate, BlockNews's sister site,
"UsenetNow.NET", has unlimited gigs, _no limits,
is 3,020+ Days deep, and costs only $120.
To update newsgroups, I prefer INN servers,
( to wit: Glorb.COM and BlueWorldHosting.COM )
so I can bookmark a newsgroup using a MessageID.
Only INN servers return an ArticleNumner, given a MessageID.
BlockNews/HighWinds' headers have no "Path:" or "xRef:" data,
and "xPat" doesn't work ! ! so I have to "xHdr Message-ID ArticleNumber",
repeatedly, until I (slowly) find the bookmark/MessageID.
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TakuyaSaitoh 8af34af6-80c4-4868-8cd2-3fc142caaa97@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 8b78fe6f-07e5-4729-afaa-cd0e583e9956@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 61322fba-fd65-4214-81a5-dd069e2be842@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--1.09A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 4/5|143 A; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 176.126.252.11, Mar 14 { 10:32 P, 2017 }:47^(PDT) Vმʯʧ
The rich are innocent; the poor are guilty.
Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> The society should be divided/separated by intelligence
> and not by money or personal connections.
Given enough luck/time, the intelligent and well connected _learn:
The rich are innocent; the poor are guilty.
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MrDFS oa7mq1$lsf$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.23A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers
╱ 4/4|320 T; 5.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 13 { 8:11 P, 2017 }:24^(-4) VლНგ
"215" means: "OK, Done".
You ( DFS ) showed the following NNTP command/response:
> LIST HEADERS
> 215 Headers and metadata items supported
Syntax
LIST HEADERS [MSGID|RANGE]
Responses
215 Field list follows (multi-line)
Parameters
MSGID Requests list for access by message-id
RANGE Requests list for access by range
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977#section-8.6.1
> It's sitting at a blinking cursor.
> How can I see the 215 headers/metadata items?
"215" means: "OK, Done".
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SteveCarroll d1eac8c1-a4c6-4b52-910b-d1b3224d5681@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oa6lvv$cpu$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.16A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oa6nma$j29$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.26A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oa7msr$lsf$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.13A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics
╱ 2/4|320 T; 5.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 13 { 8:12 P, 2017 }:57^(-4) VლОv
Without context ( New York or Puerto Rico ? ! ), "EDT" is _meaningless.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> [[ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:16:42 -0700 (Seattle) ]]
> EDT EST GMT PDT PST BST CDT CEST CET CST CXT EEST EET MSD MSK SGT UTC
Your list of TimeZones, above, is just as bogus as your newsgroup stats.
Without context ( New York or Puerto Rico ? ! ), "EDT" is _meaningless;
"-0700" is the TimeZone, not "(EDT)" or "(Seattle)".
EDT GMT - 5 Eastern Daylight Time
EDT GMT - 4 Tiempo de verano del Este (Spanish)
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/
> Spot the bozo.
I'm addressing him now.
His stats are bogus because he can't process HTML, Base64, CharSets,
Quoted Printable, UTF-16, etc.; yet he blames me, like a little bitch.
> Thousands of posters, and ONE thinks he's special.
No, you're "spastic", not "special".
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HerbertGlazier 0e51dc2f-9063-4f07-823c-071a7cf0f6ec@googlegroups.com
jc_lavau│Nojacques_Spamlavau oa6o2q$hsv$1@shakotay.alphanet.ch
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.39A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|4 A; 3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Alphanet.CH, Proxad.NET, Mar 13 { 11:23 A, 2017 }:23^(1) VლΘბ
HollyWood hates Cause and Effect with passion, so they think like Bert.
You ( jc_lavau ) replied ( to Trebert ):
> > [ Schrödinger's cat ] goes with two states at once.
> > Both Dead and alive.
>
> Do not hesitate to give an experimental proof of your statement.
Wow, nice come back !
One's ignorance of the cat's state is, by definintion,
just that: ignorance, not fact.
Quantum Statistics are mere correlations, not cause and effect.
And correlations can be wrong or worse: misleading.
HollyWood hates Cause and Effect with passion, so they think like Bert,
and they get _paid billions of dollars to stay that way.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--9.28A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oa4gmf$j3$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll d1eac8c1-a4c6-4b52-910b-d1b3224d5681@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oa6lvv$cpu$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.16A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oa6nma$j29$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.26A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|316 T; 3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 13 { 11:20 A, 2017 }: 2^(-4) VლΘɺ
What's wrong with it ?
DFS wrote:
> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:16:42 -0700 (Seattle)
What's wrong with it ?
You got the post, "Eternal-September.ORG" allowed it, right ?
> Idiot.
Nice sig.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.53A.Seattle.2017
MrAA 16d5009b-411a-4c00-b754-bb8d731a93b8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.21A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╳ 1/3|150 T; 8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 13 { 11: 9 A, 2017 }: 4^(PDT) VლΖΙ
I post HTML, text.
I never post "binary images", MrAA.
I post HTML, text.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--6.52A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oa1933$p01$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--9.28A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS oa4gmf$j3$2@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll d1eac8c1-a4c6-4b52-910b-d1b3224d5681@googlegroups.com
MrDFS oa6lvv$cpu$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.16A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╳ 1/1|315 T; 2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 13 { 10:51 A, 2017 }:55^(-4) VლΓϛ
MrDFS's stats and his database are fucked up.
There are many NNTP/Usenet servers, DFS,
99% of which carry my %100 valid posts.
You chose the one that doesn't for one simple reason:
You can't handle "Content-Type:", Base64, Quoted Printable,
HTML, UTF-16 Surrogate Pairs, PerGlyph Font Substitution, etc.
Google Groups and Mozilla Thunderbird, properly read and write it.
Both your NewsGroup stats and your database are fucked up, DFS;
instead of admitting it, like a man, you blame me.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.54A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 909e7fba-6fef-457e-b779-7b4056c07745@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--0.41P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll d05c336e-53e7-43f0-8e64-7e33ee73ee4e@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--1.25P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 0286f450-e083-4764-bde7-f530d207ea7f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.53A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 2/2|769 D; 40 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Mar 13 { 9:33 A, 2017 }:14^(PDT) VლʥΤ
NBC's "The Blacklist" uses the OCR A font.
You ( Steve Carroll ) replied ( to me ):
> > With OCR A, it's easy to tell which glyph is which.
>
> Glyphs aside, I find it somewhat tedious to read as text,
> especially when there is a lot of it.
Fine; like myself, it's not for everyone.
NBC's "The Blacklist" uses the OCR A font; to wit:
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--10.12A.Seattle.2017
MrAA c17449f7-e05b-4041-ab9e-ae0dd2259203@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--0.27A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|146 T; 7 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 12 { 2:52 P, 2017 }:31^(PDT) VკრН
The Columbia River is pristine, cool, holy and wholly awesome.
The Columbia River is pristine, cool, holy and wholly awesome;
cooler than the Ganges, grander than the "Grand" Canyon.
And you ( A.A. ) live there, you lucky bastard !
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.09P.Seattle.2017
MichaelGlasser D4EA434E.954D4%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Slimer oa41gu$6pp$7@dont-email.me
MichaelGlasser D4EAF125.95547%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Slimer oa49qf$7ed$3@dont-email.me
MichaelGlasser D4EB047C.9557C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--2.56P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|759 D; 23 Minutes, MS_Entourage➤Mac, Individual.NET, Mar 12 { 1:58 P, 2017 }:20^(-7) VკთВ
Today's hardware is better.
Today's hardware is better.
Back in 1982, I was programming the Lilith ( Modula 2 );
it had MultiButton mice, removable drives and laser printers.
Today, my g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons.
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
Ever since 1983, I've been a PC guy.
By 1989, I was programming for Windows, using MicroSoft C.
Win32, Windows 95, was a _huge step forward.
I've been a PostScript programmer, right from the start;
so I liked programming the NeXT cube, back in 1990.
I love the console, Unix is good, but I like graphics too.
Today, I program for Windows 10, using Visual Studio 2017.
I never wanted a Mac; today's hardware is better; to wit:
My i7-5775c is 77°F, near room temperature.
Most of the 3.5 Watt draw is for the IO;
a.k.a. the "UnCore" or "system agent".
The core itself draws less than a Watt.
I use the iGPU on the i7-5775c chip, no graphics card;
it's good enough to play 60 fps 4K videos, on my 4K IPS monitor;
-- the ( Iris Pro 6200 Graphics ) iGPU usually draws 0.0 Watts.
128 MegaByte OnChip L4 cache, 1.8 GigaHz eDRAM ( Crystal Well ).
My 1.9 GigaHz DRAM cards are cool to the touch, cold actually;
they're drawing 2.6 Watts, 16 GigaBytes.
My CPU exceeds 4 GigaHz, when required.
Fanless PowerSupply, a TeraByte SSD, no spinners.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--10.12A.Seattle.2017
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid aczo003.abue7x@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--11.49A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|1 V; 49 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Mar 12 { 10:41 A, 2017 }:29 Vკжთ
The Pacific Ocean has _not been (significantly) contaminated by Fukushima.
You ( owl ) told me:
> That's not a map of radiation contamination.
> Here's the original:
> http://nctr.pmel.noaa.gov/honshu20110311/Energy_plot20110311_ok.jpg
Thanks, I was wondering about that.
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MrDFS o9uhtg$ojv$2@dont-email.me
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TakuyaSaitoh 993a5a2f-48f7-47c1-9834-6938e588ad29@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--10.12A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|132 A; 11 Minutes, GoogleG, 137.74.169.241, Mar 12 { 8:47 A, 2017 }:24^(PDT) VკУგ
The Pacific Ocean has _not been (significantly) contaminated by Fukushima.
Fukushima leaks 300 tons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean
every day; new leaks have been found recently.
At the source, it's 530 sieverts per hour ( 4 sieverts is lethal );
it's so hot, not even robots can fix it !
It's expected to take at least $300 billion and four decades to fix it.
Despite all this, scientists say the Pacific Ocean
has _not been (significantly) contaminated by Fukushima.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/08/unimaginable-levels-radiation-fukushima-pacific-ocean-leaks
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.52A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 9c1669c2-a302-4bce-8206-0d3ce0b07a55@googlegroups.com
Slimer oa23bv$5i6$2@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny g5udnS6-b9xkC1nFnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@giganews.com
MichaelGlasser D4E9EC4C.9548F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.09P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|768 D; 4.8 Hours, MS_Entourage➤Mac, Individual.NET, Mar 11 { 5: 2 P, 2017 }:52^(-7) Vკʂʬ
Macs have less MalWare, less SoftWare, less HardWare, etc.
Michael Glasser wrote:
> the only consumer OSs where there is significant threat to
> the general user are Windows and Android
Macs have less MalWare, less SoftWare, less HardWare, etc.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--8.20A.Seattle.2017
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--1.49P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Free.Newsservers, News.Software.Readers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|3 D; 34 Secs, BadRig, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 11 { 1:29 P, 2017 }: 7^(-5) Vკɞс
Unix beards.
You ( ampersand ) replied ( to me ):
> > the world's most biased server, "Eternal-September.ORG".
>
> why do you think its biased
Ray Banana, the admin, is one of those people
who can't handle anything other than U.S. ASCII.
People like that ( Unix beards ) freak out at the
mere thought of "Content-Type:", Base64, Quoted Printable,
HTML, UTF-16 Surrogate Pairs, PerGlyph Font Substitution, etc.;
-- they can't handle it, they faint.
They can't even handle a change to the "Subject:" line.
The _Default "Subject:" line is neither mandatory or desirable.
Quoting
" rfc1036: Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages "
https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1036/rfc1036.html#z4
＜＜
The "Subject" line ( formerly "Title" )
tells what the message is about.
It __Should be suggestive enough of the contents of the message
to enable a reader to make a decision whether to read
the message BASED ON THE SUBJECT ALONE.
If the message is submitted in response to another message
( e.g., is a follow-up ) the _Default subject should
begin with the four characters "Re:", and the
"References" line is required. ＞＞
Google Groups and Mozilla Thunderbird, on the other hand,
properly read and write it. Thunderbird has CSS overrides
and JavaScript extensions. Ray Banana can't learn it.
So he bans any post that has it ( i.e. my posts ).
When addressing a GoogleGroups user, I post HTML ( )
to PREserve my whitespace, and for a MonoSpaced font.
And I specify the "OCR A" font;
so it's easy to tell which glyph is which.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--9.47A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 53ef922a-1c18-4a90-af28-3694759af010@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.54A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 909e7fba-6fef-457e-b779-7b4056c07745@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--0.41P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll d05c336e-53e7-43f0-8e64-7e33ee73ee4e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--1.25P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|806 D; 20 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Mar 11 { :50 P, 2017 }:50^(PST) Vკɘʪ
With OCR A, it's easy to tell which glyph is which.
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> > If I were to send you a paper letter, in the mail,
> > that's the font I'd use... likewise my eMails.
>
> But why ( it's a funky old font ) ?
I'm a lifelong, professional programmer.
PostScript, HTML, Windows 10, Visual Studio 2017,
Visual C++, Excel 2016, Word, etc. are my thing.
Laws, as interpreted by judges, are similar to apps;
to wit: precise, with a clear underlying theme.
And, as a manager of a 32 unit rooming house,
I issue precise, clear legal notices.
And my font choice, OCR A, reflects that.
With OCR A, it's easy to tell which glyph is which.
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JimPennino sn96pd-76k.ln1@mail.specsol.com
HerbertGlazier 19ac2699-918b-4922-aaa0-365c905ab436@googlegroups.com
JimPennino c9d6pd-rik.ln1@mail.specsol.com
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--1.09P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
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Most of the world believes in Gods, Bert prefers aliens.
Most of the world believes in Gods, Bert prefers aliens.
People will tell you, "Christ is Lord", as if it were a fact;
likewise, Bert maintains that his SciFi is "good science".
It _must help them to think this way;
otherwise, they'd stop doing it.
I have no reason to believe that Bert isn't who he says he is;
he keeps his business private so that loons like you ( hVac )
can't move your attacks from Usenet into real life.
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SteveCarroll fbadcc07-343c-4b3d-a20d-b8b78c90eded@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--9.47A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 53ef922a-1c18-4a90-af28-3694759af010@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.54A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 909e7fba-6fef-457e-b779-7b4056c07745@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--0.41P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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A paper letter, in the mail.
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> > The font works in Google Chrome, I notice.
>
> It works if you have it loaded
> and you override the default on your UA sheet.
No, if you have the OCR A font, as _most people do,
you'll see it when viewing my posts;
-- you wouldn't have to override anything.
> why subject [ it to ] other people [] ?
If I were to send you a paper letter, in the mail,
that's the font I'd use... likewise my eMails.
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MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll fbadcc07-343c-4b3d-a20d-b8b78c90eded@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--9.47A.Seattle.2017
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Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Mac users are "virtually no one".
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> Surely, if OCR A is the "best font",
> you'd want to access it locally, right? ;)
Yes, my userContent.CSS ( for FireFox ) has:
:not(#▲), ::Before, ::After
{ Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important; }
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
Windows has the font, Mac users don't;
to me, Mac users are "virtually no one", as you put it.
The font works in Google Chrome, I notice.
Just because _you don't like it,
doesn't mean I should stop using it.
> > Google Groups, all handle PerGlyph FontSubstitution, no problem.
>
> That's a different issue.
No, because the proper font depends on the glyph _and prior glyphs.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.41P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
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"OCR A" is the best font, I say.
You ( SteveCarroll ) wrote:
> > When addressing a GoogleGroups user, I post HTML ( )
> > to preverse the whitespace, and for a FixedWidth font.
>
> So why add the superfluous inline styling?
For the better font.
> And what's with the OCR A font?
> A Google Groups post isn't a bank draft ;)
> http://i.imgur.com/4awSxGH.png
My post, in your ScreenShot, looks fine to me.
"OCR A" is the best font, I say, and you don't even have it.
Mozilla Thunderbird/FireFox and Google Chrome, Google Groups,
all handle PerGlyph FontSubstitution, no problem.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--9.28A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers
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Both your stats and your database are fucked up, DFS.
Both your NewsGroup stats and your database are fucked up, DFS.
Instead of admitting it, like a man, you blame me.
Give me your PayPal email address, and tell me how much you want;
then you'll know if I have it or not.
All of my posts conform to Usenet's standards;
I can and have detailed those standards, repeatedly,
e.g. the "Subject:", "Date:" and "Content-Type:" lines.
The body of a post may contain Base64, Quoted Printable, HTML, etc.;
my code handles it, yours doesn't/can't.
Does your DataBase handle changes to the "Subject:" line ?
The _Default "Subject:" line is neither mandatory or desirable.
Quoting
" rfc1036: Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages "
https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1036/rfc1036.html#z4
＜＜
The "Subject" line ( formerly "Title" )
tells what the message is about.
It __Should be suggestive enough of the contents of the message
to enable a reader to make a decision whether to read
the message BASED ON THE SUBJECT ALONE.
If the message is submitted in response to another message
( e.g., is a follow-up ) the _Default subject should
begin with the four characters "Re:", and the
"References" line is required. ＞＞
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MrDFS o9ui9l$qe2$2@dont-email.me
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MrDFS oa0q1n$aob$3@dont-email.me
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-80cf4f7debd52050d8a99c9182af9519@individual.net
MrDFS oa10g6$6qq$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--6.52A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/9|321 T; 2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 11 { 6:13 A, 2017 }:59^(-5) VკMɷ
Grow up, please.
Both your stats and your database are fucked up, DFS.
Instead of admitting it, like a man, you blame me.
Grow up, please.
If you can't afford a decent server, I'll send you money.
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TakuyaSaitoh 94ad946a-050a-4dcf-a33a-d670621dc3fc@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.52A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 9c1669c2-a302-4bce-8206-0d3ce0b07a55@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--9.10P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|131 A; 46 Minutes, GoogleG, 198.100.159.72, Mar 10 { 8:20 P, 2017 }:44^(PST) VიЩʤ
No one could spy on me, they'd die of boredom.
No one could spy on me, they'd die of boredom.
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MrDFS o9sh9d$lq$2@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvuz003.b@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS o9suq9$d4a$2@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid avic003.bhur@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--10.44P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9ui9l$qe2$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--8.20A.Seattle.2017
Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/3|314 T; 2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 10 { 7:59 A, 2017 }:30^(-5) Vიʟი
The world's most biased server, "Eternal-September.ORG".
I can be biased because my servers aren't.
The code I showed you ( DFS ) finds/downloads the nyms
of the last 5 ancestors using an _unbiased server.
When addressing a GoogleGroups user, I post HTML ( )
to PREserve my whitespace, and for a MonoSpaced font.
And I'm not going to stop that just because you prefer
the world's most biased server, "Eternal-September.ORG".
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ -N2dndKEhcslNSLFnZ2dnUU7-fvNnZ2d@giganews.com
TOSEM│7he0ther5ide0f3ternal_ o9sh53$utl$2@news.albasani.net
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ 1YidnaXJqo9WUlzFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@giganews.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--8.51P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gkg5cc9jc1cpu54s86tnss9ag90ersoc8m@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--7.37A.Seattle.2017
Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
╱ 1/1|14 A; 3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Mar 10 { 7:15 A, 2017 }:37^(-5) Vიʘς
No walls, No vetting.
Sir_Gregory wrote:
> Just like a gay to be anal retentive.
> They want dick up their anus 24/7/365.
No, they put up walls and vet incomers, same as Trump.
Would Madonna let me fuck her ? ! Hell no.
Still, she'd have anyone and everyone fuck _me over;
no walls, no vetting.
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TakuyaSaitoh 94ad946a-050a-4dcf-a33a-d670621dc3fc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.52A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|136 A; 4 Minutes, GoogleG, 89.34.237.101, Mar 10 { 6:28 A, 2017 }:49^(PST) VიʐЯ
I can, Takuya Saitoh and John Gohde can't.
If you can't prevent WikiLeaksExposed malware, then you can't reap
the benefits of Win10, Word, Excel and Visual Studio.
I can, Takuya Saitoh and John Gohde can't.
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JohnGohde 4737a708-4a06-4665-a6a8-ba782d3dd2c9@googlegroups.com
michaelunowho@gmailΞcom 4bf2e073-711e-4690-88c1-02e4d5d65c57@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 412e34e9-72e1-4110-a6ec-5c26b5ea2fcf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--0.14A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/2|133 A; 4.2 Hours, GoogleG, 217.170.201.106, Mar 9 { 7:30 P, 2017 }:32^(PST) VიZW
Germany has Europe. Japan has what, South Korea ?
Compared to us Americans, Japan and Germany have suffered many deaths,
last 100 years... but it has made them _stronger.
Germany has Europe. Japan has what, South Korea ?
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Fabian 90816b96-1ab8-4731-9e5e-312936e13448@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny Y9ydnUVvy9Vs613FnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com
MrChrisV 1vj2ccps4mfrslvg404d6ts9c3ombv9jbg@4ax.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny i56dnSOGHZ7nx1zFnZ2dnUU7-fXNnZ2d@giganews.com
Fabian o9s406028lk@news3.newsguy.com
TakuyaSaitoh 370610ac-04d6-4c8b-8cd4-80fa03e91bb6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--0.01A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|133 A; 6.6 Hours, GoogleG, 89.34.237.121, Mar 9 { 5: 5 P, 2017 }:35^(PST) VიAო
Relative to Earth's radius, we rarely move far, up or down.
You ( TakuyaSaitoh ) replied ( to Fabian ):
> > But any movement from the "rim" to the center of a spinning station would
> > be an ordeal. The travelers would be crushed with significant force
> > against the sides of the elevator or other transit tube if they moved too fast.
>
> Earth is also spinning sphere, Jack!
Relative to Earth's radius, we rarely move far, up or down.
We humans like the "Goldie Locks" planet, but that's just us.
We consume "fuel" ( eXergy, energy that can do work, here and now ),
same as the sun and everything else;
subjectively, we're _sure that nothing is better than us.
People want to know where/when "life" can exist in the Cosmos.
By "life" they mean themselves and their progeny.
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MrDFS o9rpqi$rit$5@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--7.27A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9sh9d$lq$2@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvuz003.b@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS o9suq9$d4a$2@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid avic003.bhur@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--10.44P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/2|184 K; 2.1 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Mar 9 { 6:18 P, 2017 }:27 VიNR
DFS's stats are biased, as are mine.
DFS's stats are biased, as are mine ( http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Cola_Regs.HTM ).
If he claims he's not biased, then he's "lying"; but remember:
No one here is "lying" per se, nor is the government;
we're all just defending our own special set of "truths".
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
In X.CPP, I get the Nym+MessageID of the last 5 ancestors thusly:
// MrDFS o9rpqi$rit$5@dont-email.me
// JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--7.27A.Seattle.2017
// MrDFS o9sh9d$lq$2@dont-email.me
// owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvuz003.b@rooftop.invalid
// MrDFS o9suq9$d4a$2@dont-email.me
// owl│owl@rooftop_invalid avic003.bhur@rooftop.invalid
{ int s = ErrDia, J_Ln_PP = Ln.PP - Ln.BB ;
LoopJ( mxDepth ) {
Nym⁺mID_T &Dad = Heritage[ mxDepth - J - 1 ]; if ( !Dad.MID ) break;
if ( aHdr = 1, !Go( L"HEAD <%s>", Dad.MID ) ) {
ErrDia = 0, Dad.Nym = L"." ; continue ; }
LnP P, B, T, N ; int Have = 0 ;
LnA PP = Ln.BB + BB_DownLoad, EE = Ln.PP + 1 ;
while ( ++PP < EE && ( B = P = *PP ) && *B ) {
gTok, N = P ; int Used = 1 ;
if ( Eqi( Tok, L"References:" ) ) {
Have++ ; if ( J == eJ ) goto Done ;
B = P, E = P + szStr( P ); if ( !gMID( B, P, E ) ) goto Done ;
*E = 0, Heritage[ mxDepth - J - 2 ].MID = P ; }
else if ( !Eqi( Tok, L"From:" ) ) Used = 0 ;
else {
Have++ ; if ( P = NymShift( T = userNym( P ) ) ) T = P ;
Dad.Nym = T ; }
Done: *E_Tok = E_Ch_Tok, !Used ? 0 : ( N[-2] = L'_' );
if ( Have >= 2 ) break ; } }
Ln.PP = Ln.BB + J_Ln_PP, ErrDia = s ; }
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MrDFS o9kvth$2uo$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.41P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu chine.bleu-83A232.15452809032017@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--10.08P.Seattle.2017
Alt.Free.Newsservers, News.Software.Readers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|2 D; 4.7 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 9 { 3:45 P, 2017 }:36^(-8) Vთჳρ
Geoff Brozny and Jesse Rehmer let me post for free.
You ( Siri_Cruise ) replied ( to me ):
> GoogleGroups, "Individual.NET", "BlueWorldHosting.COM" and
> "Glorb.COM" ( uncensored version ) don't drop my posts.
> "BlockNews.NET" is dirt cheap and it has all 12 years, all posts.
>
> Threaten to stop paying your subscription fee.
> That'll get their attention.
I pay no subscription fees; nor have I, for years.
Geoff Brozny and Jesse Rehmer let me post for free.
"BlockNews.NET" was a one time, __tiny payment, not a subscription.
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MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ -N2dndKEhcslNSLFnZ2dnUU7-fvNnZ2d@giganews.com
TOSEM│7he0ther5ide0f3ternal_ o9sh53$utl$2@news.albasani.net
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ 1YidnaXJqo9WUlzFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@giganews.com
TOSEM│7he0ther5ide0f_3ternal_ o9sndo$o58$1@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--9.51P.Seattle.2017
➤Alt.Free.Newsservers, News.Software.Readers, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|3 D; 5.3 Hours, BadRig, Albasani.NET, Mar 9 { 3:10 P, 2017 }:48^(10) VთჭЮ
IP addresses.
While I (foolishly) house insane, homeless people,
I was never one myself.
RobB(RIP) was a rich bastard ( due to his wireless patents ).
He called me a lot, shortly before he died; we talked for hours.
He spied on his (racecar) employees,
so he and friends could laugh at them.
We also talked about his house parties and his rental properties.
His HighWinds server was called "Shared Secrets",
and he was very secretive indeed; paranoid, even.
RobB pan.2009.06.03.04.37.05@shared-secrets.com
He might've ran HighWinds and OctaNews too,
seeing as he refunded me the money I gave them.
He gave me a free account and some other stuff.
He talked about going to the data center.
He bragged about TossingOut hard drives, left and right.
He asked me what I thought about binary formats ( on Usenet ).
He compiled/ran X.EXE, my newsreader, and commented on it.
I wrote some code for him.
He went ballistic when I posted his IP address;
he cancelled my account... then he died.
Speaking of IP addresses:
MicroSoft's CEO Satya Nadella hates Windows.
He's all "mobile-first, cloud-first"; yet fails at it, badly.
MicroSoft can't even send and receive emails properly.
HotMail rejects my emails because it doesn't like
the (shared) IP address of my SMTP server.
I am not my IP address, you _fucking spastics.
gMail has no such problems.
Outlook sends out "RichText" emails, instead of HTML;
turn that off, and it sends out its own, borked version of HTML.
Effectively, MicroSoft is trying to Kill_Off email.
gMail has no such problems.
Don't believe me ? Bing it. ha ha
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.41P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ -N2dndKEhcslNSLFnZ2dnUU7-fvNnZ2d@giganews.com
TOSEM│7he0ther5ide0f3ternal_ o9sh53$utl$2@news.albasani.net
Fakeys_Puppy_Whistle_Holder_ 1YidnaXJqo9WUlzFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--8.51P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/3|15 D; 6.5 Hours, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, GigaNews➤Giganews.COM, Mar 9 { 1:57 P, 2017 }:31^(-6) Vთსμ
Gay Banana's crappy server.
I just commented on Gay Banana's crappy server, that's all.
Everyone gets censored a lot, including me... so what ?
I'm _not complaining about that... _not trying to fix it.
HTH, Captain Piss Bucket.
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MrDFS o9rpqi$rit$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.9--7.27A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|317 T; 1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 9 { 6:48 A, 2017 }:37^(-5) VთКb
How are you calculating it, DFS ?
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> YTD 2017 cola reply stats
> Takuya Saitoh replied to Jeff Relf 3
You're way, way off. How are you calculating it ?
A _few examples of TakuyaSaitoh replying to me:
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.34P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh bc8b727e-9ee3-43aa-938b-76effa31f201@googlegroups.com
8.5 Hours ago, Mar 8 { 10:18 P, 2017 }:40^(PST)
8.5 Watts vs 13.
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. f7a4e8c1-bf00-4aa4-815a-88709b218377@googlegroups.com
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--11.34A.Seattle.2017
. a806c10d-e812-4443-94cf-2845497ecd2a@googlegroups.com
. 58bf3907$0$32534$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.59P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 58c0aae2$0$9546$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.00P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.34P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|16 D; 3.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM⁻aʓцϼ, Mar 8 { 5: 7 P, 2017 }:40^(-5) Vთʃɤ
8.5 Watts vs 13.
Comparing my LED bulb with my CFL ( Twisty ) bulb
( reading the info on the packaging ):
LED: 8.5 Watts; Twisty: 13 Watts.
The LED lasts 25,000 hours -- i.e. after 3 _years
of continuous use, it's 30% dimmer.
The Twisty lasts 10,000 hours -- i.e. 4,000 _hours,
if you switch them on and off a lot.
The LED cost $1, at the dollar store ( subsidized );
and can be accidentally dropped without breaking.
The Twisty look like a glass sculpture of dog poop;
when broken, it's toxic.
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JohnSefton f26421e6-4090-4821-9a77-e88cfe7dd61f@googlegroups.com
S_Ergio│invlid@invalidΞcom o9msem$1h6o$2@gioia.aioe.org
JohnSefton 24629832-d357-4b53-8bdf-eeef3efe9ba0@googlegroups.com
MichaelMoroney o9nt8l$epf$1@pcls7.std.com
JohnSefton 54340edc-139f-4b97-8ece-a8e7aa7258c0@googlegroups.com
EdProchak e59a36ef-cb6a-482c-84fd-7e625a7168bc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--0.19P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╳ 1/1|76 T; 28 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Mar 8 { 11:45 A, 2017 }:33^(PST) VთɅξ
When we zoom in|out too far, it looks random.
Us humans only understand things at our level/temperature.
When we zoom in|out too far, it looks random.
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MrChrisV 2a00cc5d3lpgv8qbsmt398cgqdm5os4eg7@4ax.com
MrDFS o9p5k2$kmf$3@dont-email.me
PeterKöhlmann o9p5sd$kle$3@dont-email.me
MrDFS o9pfof$qsl$3@dont-email.me
SteveCarroll 0524ea4b-0e86-4a98-90ec-3364fede56a2@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o9pkpg$f03$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--0.11P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|310 T; 1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 8 { 11:10 A, 2017 }:59^(-5) VთȽй
John Gohde is Linux, personified.
You ( DFS ) show us fun, interesting code.
You have good insights. You're quick to judge, sans facts.
I like Hugh Huntzinger; he's interesting, never stupid|wrong.
Fabian Russell is a "Real (Macho) Man",
with an interesting point of view. He's like:
" if you don't dye your hair purple, you're insane ".
Scott Doty has the coolest job, and the best hardware.
Takuya Saitoh is fun/nice/interesting;
we _never agree on anything.
John Gohde is a wonderful comedian and a _true Linux advocate.
John Gohde _is Linux, personified.
Marek Novotny and Owl are command line jockeys.
Peter Kohlmann thinks he's a C++ programmer, but he's not;
hiring a mechanic doesn't make you one.
Steve Carroll is another wannabe coder, not fun.
GreyCloud and MichaelGlasser are too zealous for my tastes;
I'd like to lock them in a room, and record it.
I drop Slimer's posts, normally;
but, when others quote him, he's interesting.
ChrisV is my greatest fan but you can have him, he's clueless.
I have nothing to say about Melzzzzz, William Poaster, Tim,
Sandman, RonB and Chris Ahlstrom.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.39A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll c1d70996-17de-4576-86c9-b617d71d9efd@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.56A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 715ffbf4-b5f5-4c04-862a-340eac35c13c@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--10.10A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll cd210e84-c9fc-4204-a12b-62d2ac64d91a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--10.29A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|900 D; 7 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Mar 8 { 10:16 A, 2017 }:53^(PST) Vთȴг
Where did you get your platitudes from, your ass ?
There's a reason you ( Steve ) are in my list of "Dropped" nyms.
You can't discuss what's a good or bad programming practice
because you can't compare me to anyone, you have no details.
What do you have ? ! Vague platitudes, nothing more.
Where did you get your platitudes from, your ass ?
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.03A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 9c068cc0-cedf-40d0-abb3-9630cc7ace5b@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.39A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll c1d70996-17de-4576-86c9-b617d71d9efd@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.56A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 715ffbf4-b5f5-4c04-862a-340eac35c13c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--10.10A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|899 D; 7 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Mar 8 { 10: 2 A, 2017 }: 7^(PST) Vთyɿ
Fuck you ( Steve Carroll ).
Fuck you ( Steve Carroll ).
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--6.22A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9p7b1$qrj$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.03A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 9c068cc0-cedf-40d0-abb3-9630cc7ace5b@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.39A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll c1d70996-17de-4576-86c9-b617d71d9efd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.56A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|897 D; 2 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Mar 8 { 9:48 A, 2017 }: 1^(PST) Vთw1
I need some details, not vague platitudes.
You ( Steve Carroll ) replied ( to me ):
> > Don't tell the mechanic how to do his job.
>
> You're not a mechanic, you're a programmer
> with terrible programming habits.
Who are you comparing me to, yourself ?
Show me his/your code. What does it do ?
> > I wouldn't keep two versions, like that.
>
> Why not?
Who does that, you ?
You edit the one, then the other ?
Or do you convert the one to the other,
fucking up the whitespace ?
Who, _exactly, uses the commented version ?
I need some details, not vague platitudes.
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PeterKöhlmann o9p1ur$8a9$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV qg40cc9a9lgbieqvus420edmim2k3p4k7o@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--6.22A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9p7b1$qrj$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.03A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 9c068cc0-cedf-40d0-abb3-9630cc7ace5b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.39A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|895 D; 10 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Mar 8 { 9:21 A, 2017 }:47^(PST) Vთrϒ
Don't tell the mechanic how to do his job.
You ( Steve Carroll ) replied ( to DFS and me ):
> > > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
> > >
> > > Some of those are weird, but #3 is just plain wrong:
> > >
> > > 3. Minimize comments and WhiteSpace.
> > >
> > > When I see sparse code, with lots of whitespace and comments,
> > > I _immediately know the programmer is struggling.
> > >
> > > WhenAndOnlyWhen debugging, does lots of comments and WhiteSpace make sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > It would make you unemployable at most places.
> >
> > I don't worry about getting/keeping jobs.
> > My current employer has been happy with me, last 24 years.
>
> You know you're allowed to keep a commented version
> of the file for development (as opposed to production), right?
Don't tell the mechanic how to do his job.
I wouldn't keep two versions, like that.
All WhiteSpace is _sacred to me, all of it;
never would I allow something to alter it -- Not ever.
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PeterKöhlmann o9oure$sr1$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--5.30A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann o9p1ur$8a9$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV qg40cc9a9lgbieqvus420edmim2k3p4k7o@4ax.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--6.22A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9p7b1$qrj$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--9.03A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/3|307 T; 9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 8 { 7:21 A, 2017 }:36^(-5) VთXρ
When you're "rich", you're innocent, and people love you.
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
>
> Some of those are weird, but #3 is just plain wrong:
>
> 3. Minimize comments and WhiteSpace.
>
> When I see sparse code, with lots of whitespace and comments,
> I _immediately know the programmer is struggling.
>
> WhenAndOnlyWhen debugging, does lots of comments and WhiteSpace make sense.
>
>
> It would make you unemployable at most places.
I don't worry about getting/keeping jobs.
My current employer has been happy with me, last 24 years.
When you're "rich", you're innocent, and people love you.
Although I'm technically poor, I _feel quite rich.
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MrDFS o9kvth$2uo$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.41P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9p7bt$qrj$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--8.52A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/3|307 T; 9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 8 { 7:22 A, 2017 }: 4^(-5) VთXϲ
"Today I advocated Linux" by DFS, Nov 16th, 2004
You ( DFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > "BlockNews.NET" is dirt cheap and it has all 12 years, all posts.
>
> Have you confirmed that? On one blocknews.net page it says "3070 days
> retention binary, 2 years for text".
>
> It would be interesting to have the entire cola archive
> - all the way back to 1994 when it was launched.
> Absent that I'd like to have it from Jun 2004 on (when I joined).
Using:
Groups.Google.COM/forum/#!searchin/Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy/ authorname:DFS before:2005-01-01 |sort:date
I found:
"Today I advocated Linux" by DFS, Nov 16th, 2004
10pkrjf5oute8d8@corp.supernews.com
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy/dBDhAkpxjP0/VHa39iqmrYQJ
Using the above MessageID, I downloaded it from "BlockNews.NET". ＜＜
He thanked me and carried the XP book and the $15.99 Linux mag
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.181
X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com ＞＞
> > That's tiny; some of my videos, on my TeraByte SSD, are 4 gigs.
>
> Hollywood movies?
No, TV shows.
> I tweak it a little from time to time (as above), and run a
> weekly or so python script to pull the latest posts.
Cool.
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PeterKöhlmann o9om63$vvu$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--4.39A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann o9oure$sr1$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--5.30A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann o9p1ur$8a9$1@dont-email.me
MrChrisV qg40cc9a9lgbieqvus420edmim2k3p4k7o@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--6.22A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|151 D; 1 Minutes, F_Agent, High_Winds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Mar 8 { 6:17 A, 2017 }:20^(-6) VთMю
C++CodingRules.HTM
MrChrisV wrote:
> "What's wrong with it?" - DumFSck, regarding the use of
> a #pragma to disable 17 different types of compiler warnings
Yes, and here's why I disable them:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
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PeterKöhlmann o9nft9$bta$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS o9nlh3$oom$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--8.08P.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann o9om63$vvu$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--4.39A.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann o9oure$sr1$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--5.30A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|116 D; 6 Minutes, Snitbuster, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 8 { 4:55 A, 2017 }:50^(1) Vთ9ɮ
Being a Visual C++ programmer is not the same as hiring one.
You ( Peter Köhlmann ) replied ( to me ):
> > The logic ( based on the test results ) is created by you yourself,
> > not your CoWorkers, right ?
>
> Right. The coworkers have to code what I decide, how to do it.
> And to my coding standards ( which dictates that code has to be
> easily readable by everyone involved. And it *must* have comments. ).
>
> > Is it all text/console, or did you create a simple GUI ?
> > ScreenShot ?
>
> It is full GUI, on windows, OSX and linux.
> Datafiles fully interchangeable, also the documents.
I, and I alone, wrote every line in "X.CPP" ( Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM ).
You, on the other hand, paid people to generate reports
( based on the test results ). Do you see the difference ?
Being a Visual C++ programmer is not the same as hiring one.
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PeterKöhlmann o9naqr$ojh$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny I-GdnQR5a4S6rSLFnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@giganews.com
PeterKöhlmann o9nft9$bta$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS o9nlh3$oom$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--8.08P.Seattle.2017
PeterKöhlmann o9om63$vvu$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--4.39A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/2|115 D; 1.7 Hours, Snitbuster, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 8 { 2:27 A, 2017 }:55^(1) Vზღϛ
ScreenShot ?
You ( Peter Köhlmann ) replied ( to me ):
> > Peter Köhlmann doesn't use C to create apps;
> > he's paid for his statistical analysis
> > of "Social Competence" tests -- he creates "rules".
>
> Bullshit. I do the programming from those statistics.
> Someone has to be able to read the math rules and code from that.
>
> In reality I have done the whole package, and I still maintain it
> and add to it. And no, I do not use pure C. I use C++.
The logic ( based on the test results ) is created by you yourself,
not your CoWorkers, right ?
Is it all text/console, or did you create a simple GUI ?
ScreenShot ?
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MrAA 46ae1588-0d31-4770-933e-df9f21139e59@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 82634fe5-65bb-4bd7-a767-65eb8c6309df@googlegroups.com
MrAA f7a4e8c1-bf00-4aa4-815a-88709b218377@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--11.34A.Seattle.2017
MrAA a806c10d-e812-4443-94cf-2845497ecd2a@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58bf3907$0$32534$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.59P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|448 D; 7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM⁻BȼΙɅ, Mar 7 { 2:49 P, 2017 }:39^(-5) Vზϓɣ
$1 LED bulbs last longer and reduce your electric bill.
My dollar store sells LED bulbs for $1 ( subsidized ).
I bought a bunch to replace my Curlies.
LED bulbs last longer and reduce your electric bill.
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MrDFS o9kvth$2uo$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.41P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o9n97m$i3t$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.42P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/12|305 T; 5.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 7 { 1:40 P, 2017 }: 1^(-5) Vზρϡ
"Eternal-September.ORG" drops posts, my posts, NAZI style.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> Apparently some news servers let you send your own made-up headers.
Yes, I loved Google's "X-HTTP-UserAgent:" line ( it's gone now ).
Today, I keep: Complaints-To: X-Complaints-To: From: Date:
Message-ID: References: Path: Subject: Newsgroups:
Followup-To: X-Usenet-Provider: User-Agent: X-Newsreader:
X-Mailer: NNTP-Posting-Host: X-No-Archive:
> I get the cola data from eternal-september.org
> and slice it into 12 tables. The python nntplib library
> helps by returning data in easily parseable formats.
"Eternal-September.ORG" drops posts, my posts, NAZI style.
GoogleGroups, "Individual.NET", "BlueWorldHosting.COM" and
"Glorb.COM" ( uncensored version ) don't drop my posts.
"BlockNews.NET" is dirt cheap and it has all 12 years, all posts.
When addressing a GoogleGroups user, I post HTML ( )
to PREserve the whitespace, and for a FixedWidth font.
> With 6.5 years of posts - starting late Oct 2010 - my db is now 2.5GB
> (w/o an index on the BODY column, which would take it to ~3.5GB).
That's tiny; some of my videos, on my TeraByte SSD, are 4 gigs.
> ID POSTER NAME NICK
> ------ ---------------------------------------- --------------- -----
> 10578 "F. Russell" Fabian Russell Feeb
> 3469 "Fabian Russell" Fabian Russell Feeb
I match the _start of the (modified) "From:" line; to wit:
F_Russell fr31 Fabian_Russell Vince_Vandal Vile_Strong
Lester_Thorpe Strong_Vile Adlbifhr Frank_Rifle
> I have a few repeating rows above, so I made a small design change that
> reduced the size of the database a little but added a table.
>
> Smallest possible db size is my goal -
> which comes at the cost of being harder to query.
Interesting. I like it !
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Alan_Browne│alan_browne Of6dnQCcpfWYgSLFnZ2dnUU7-T_NnZ2d@giganews.com
Jolly_Roger│jollyroger ei8oliFt54hU1@mid.individual.net
PeterKöhlmann o9naqr$ojh$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny I-GdnQR5a4S6rSLFnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@giganews.com
PeterKöhlmann o9nft9$bta$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS o9nlh3$oom$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--8.08P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 11/12|305 T; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 7 { 5: 9 P, 2017 }:32^(-5) VზϹν
Peter Kohlmann doesn't use C to create apps.
Peter Köhlmann doesn't use C to create apps;
he's paid for his statistical analysis
of "Social Competence" tests -- he creates "rules".
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larryadams717@comcastΞnet a729d299-424e-4524-b6e3-aeecd330f45b@googlegroups.com
MrAA e4c16de8-f5e9-4f3f-83f7-8a9fd49ed1e6@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 804fa11b-d1fb-4999-8229-c50cf6fb555f@googlegroups.com
MrAA 46ae1588-0d31-4770-933e-df9f21139e59@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier 82634fe5-65bb-4bd7-a767-65eb8c6309df@googlegroups.com
MrAA f7a4e8c1-bf00-4aa4-815a-88709b218377@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--11.34A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|140 T; 3 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 7 { 11:28 A, 2017 }:13^(PST) VზΤϻ
Your monthly electric bill is $85, A.A. ?
Your monthly electric bill is $85, A.A. ?
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BenJacoby 58bdeb43$0$4505$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
AbhinavLal 30b64ff6-fcbe-42af-a3df-e13fe502f797@googlegroups.com
EdProchak 068cd197-7fb3-48d2-a1a2-f897eb2761f5@googlegroups.com
AbhinavLal ece3503f-3115-4b84-bbc5-e85e4b597bbf@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.00A.Seattle.2017
MrAA 85aa3c8c-f4f6-4bcc-8f71-b7de359c2a6d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--11.28A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/6|139 T; 15 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 7 { 11: 8 A, 2017 }:32^(PST) VზΠʘ
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
You ( Double-A ) asked me:
> My friend Kim thinks the Mormon Church is controlling everything!
> Since you used to be one, you should know. Are they?
No, of course not. However, Trump's inauguration had a
very Mormon/protestant church service feel to it.
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AbhinavLal 7ac9215b-ae60-494a-a967-72724593b50e@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmailΞcom o9i7cs$1kf1$2@gioia.aioe.org
BenJacoby 58bdeb43$0$4505$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
AbhinavLal 30b64ff6-fcbe-42af-a3df-e13fe502f797@googlegroups.com
EdProchak 068cd197-7fb3-48d2-a1a2-f897eb2761f5@googlegroups.com
AbhinavLal ece3503f-3115-4b84-bbc5-e85e4b597bbf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--9.00A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|23 A; 1 Minutes, GoogleG, 182.68.12.211, Mar 7 { 8:48 A, 2017 }:52^(PST) Vზʨq
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
No one here is "lying" per se, nor is the government;
we're all just defending our own special set of "truths".
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AbhinavLal 7ac9215b-ae60-494a-a967-72724593b50e@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmailΞcom o9i7cs$1kf1$2@gioia.aioe.org
BenJacoby 58bdeb43$0$4505$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
AbhinavLal 30b64ff6-fcbe-42af-a3df-e13fe502f797@googlegroups.com
EdProchak 068cd197-7fb3-48d2-a1a2-f897eb2761f5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--6.10A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 3/3|72 T; 14 Minutes, GoogleG, 198.14.211.181, Mar 7 { 5:19 A, 2017 }:14^(PST) Vზʅɀ
"String Theory" can "model" 10^500 "vacua".
"String Theory" can "model" 10^500 "vacua".
A "vacuum" is a way to compactify string theory down to four dimensions.
So finding one that works is a matter of trial and error.
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Fabian 15bd6a10-0b6f-4e05-849e-289da7e13f0a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.02P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
-Dropped, 10.9 Hours, GoogleG, Mar 6 { 6:59 A, 2017 }:11^(PST) VვЛх
Often, the HTML and/or UnicodeText is Base64 encoded, no attachment.
You ( Fabian ) wrote:
> You receive an email containing an HTML attachment. Being from
> a Microshit source the attachment is encoded in quoted-printable,
> or QP, encoding.
>
> How do you quickly translate this QP junk from Microshit to
> ASCII or UTF-8 encoding?
>
> Well c'mon, character set experts. Translate with extreme simplicity.
Often, the HTML and/or UnicodeText is Base64 encoded, no attachment.
" Content-Type: multipart/mixed " emails are super common;
so the (ASCII) body has _many headers, each with its own "Content-Type".
Mixed together, in a single body, one must decode
Base64 binary ( .PNG, .EXE, .PDF ), QuotedPrintable, HTML, etc.
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MrDFS o9kvth$2uo$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.41P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/6|301 T; 24 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 6 { 4:48 P, 2017 }:43^(-5) Vზ8h
How do you define "Feeb" ?
Well done, MrDFS !
Your reports ( via your SQL data/queries )
are _far better than a Google Groups search.
Personally, I only keep/search my own posts; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT
How do you define "Feeb" ? Is it:
F_Russell fr31 Fabian_Russell Vince_Vandal Vile_Strong Lester_Thorpe
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ScottDoty ei4824Fueu7U2@mid.individual.net
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o9jcbg0rdc@news3.newsguy.com
ScottDoty pan$da34a$6589e722$68aaa766$ff289686@cultnix.org
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-04eb100ebd3b58cf4bdcabdd3a1876c9@individual.net
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahjzov003.27a@rooftop.invalid
ScottDoty ei67pgFdqlpU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.56P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/2|189 K; 1.2 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Mar 6 { 2:56 P, 2017 }:48 Vვძʨ
Surrogate pairs ( a pair of 16 bit shorts, UTF-16 ).
These days, surrogate pairs ( a pair of 16 bit shorts, UTF-16 )
are amazingly common -- lots of new fonts, Supplementary Planes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16#U.2B10000_to_U.2B10FFFF
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o9io3l0180n@news7.newsguy.com
ScottDoty ei4824Fueu7U2@mid.individual.net
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o9jcbg0rdc@news3.newsguy.com
ScottDoty pan$da34a$6589e722$68aaa766$ff289686@cultnix.org
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.31A.Seattle.2017
ScottDoty ei69j6FdqlpU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.41P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|189 K; 39 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Mar 6 { 3:27 P, 2017 }:34 Vვჰο
CodePage 437, Windows-1252, UTF-8, UTF-16 don't mix.
You ( Scott Doty ) replied ( to me ):
> > CodePage 437, Windows-1252/ISO-8859-1, UTF-8, UTF-16 don't mix;
> > so please specify which one you're using, Mr. Ødegård.
>
> It's in the header.
Yes, your ContentType line has the proper CharSet, of course.
> Looks fine to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> http://i.imgur.com/ETeehtG.png
Yes, your newreader ( Pan ) looks _good.
F_Russell his happy with just US ASCII, and that's fine too.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny lKKdnYC3GZvi8SHFnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com
ScottDoty ei40riFueu7U1@mid.individual.net
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o9io3l0180n@news7.newsguy.com
ScottDoty ei4824Fueu7U2@mid.individual.net
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o9jcbg0rdc@news3.newsguy.com
ScottDoty pan$da34a$6589e722$68aaa766$ff289686@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.31A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
╱ 1/1|187 K; 21 Secs, Pan, Individual.NET, Mar 6 { 3:51 A, 2017 }:55 VვϞϛ
CodePage 437, Windows-1252, UTF-8, UTF-16 don't mix.
CodePage 437, Windows-1252/ISO-8859-1, UTF-8, UTF-16 don't mix;
so please specify which one you're using, Mr. Ødegård.
With the exception of Mozilla Thunderbird and MicroSoft Outlook,
few Usenet clients properly handle PerGlyph FontSubstitution,
Unicode/CharSets and basic HTML/CSS.
nEdit, F_Russell's Linux editor, suffers from the same problems.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♋
Α α Alpha, Β β Beta, Γ γ Gamma, Δ δ Delta, Ε ε Epsilon,
Ζ ζ Zeta, Η η Eta, Θ θ Theta, Ι ι Iota, Κ κ Kappa, Λ λ Lambda,
Μ μ Mu, Ν ν Nu, Ξ ξ Xi, Ο ο Omicron, Π π Pi, Ρ ρ Rho, Σ σ ς Sigma,
Τ τ Tau, Υ υ Upsilon, Φ φ Phi, Χ χ Chi, Ψ ψ Psi, Ω ω Omega
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AbhinavLal 7ac9215b-ae60-494a-a967-72724593b50e@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmailΞcom o9i7cs$1kf1$2@gioia.aioe.org
AbhinavLal 5ac63856-755a-4d79-971d-031ab6f37324@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--8.18P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|18 A; 2.2 Hours, GoogleG, 171.50.183.42, Mar 5 { 5: 9 P, 2017 }:47^(PST) Vვʃϒ
Entropy _never stops accruing.
Entropy _never stops accruing.
Is "it" (something) hotter or colder ?
It depends on your ability to measure it.
Is it too big or too small to properly observe ?
It depends on who/what you are.
Pride itself is subjective;
_you define what's "good" or not.
The 4-Dimensional TimeScape ( past and future )
is static, immutable, eternal, without beginning or end.
So it is, at once, both everything and _nothing.
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AbhinavLal 7ac9215b-ae60-494a-a967-72724593b50e@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmailΞcom o9i7cs$1kf1$2@gioia.aioe.org
AbhinavLal 5ac63856-755a-4d79-971d-031ab6f37324@googlegroups.com
EdProchak 8f176f9d-ec3f-4a80-ab5f-2212461acbda@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--7.57P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 2/2|62 T; 1 Hours, GoogleG, 50.96.142.196, Mar 5 { 6:18 P, 2017 }:13^(PST) VვʏD
The Known Universe is a closed system by definition.
The Known Universe is a closed system by definition;
because you can't observe anything _outside of it.
Are some stars not dying ? not entering thermodynamic equalibrium ?
No, Cosmological SpaceTime is Euclidean, uniform and isotropic.
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. o97mac$7l4$2@gioia.aioe.org
. 6d37afa6-727e-4490-8198-42becb1bf3bb@googlegroups.com
Wesley_Jorstad│aytd o999j3$o4h$1@gioia.aioe.org
BenJacoby 58b9f9ff$0$60231$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com
EdProchak f86caea3-4c58-499b-9133-efdb52470269@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--7.33P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/2|62 T; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 50.96.142.196, Mar 5 { 5:45 P, 2017 }:29^(PST) Vვʉκ
Ben "WitchDoctor" Jacoby doesn't understand modern voodoo.
Ben "WitchDoctor" Jacoby doesn't understand modern voodoo.
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AbhinavLal 7ac9215b-ae60-494a-a967-72724593b50e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--3.33P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|17 A; 28 Minutes, GoogleG, 171.50.183.42, Mar 5 { 2:30 P, 2017 }:59^(PST) Vვɩx
Subjective Pride.
You ( AbhinavLal ) asked:
> Why did the universe start in such a low state of entropy?
> Is a low state of entropy simpler, more beautiful?
The start of the "big bang" is just the cosmological horizon;
_all horizons, including event horizons, are subjective.
Entropy has _always been growing; in other words,
thermodynamic free energy ( eXergy ) is forever being consumed away.
Whether or not today's eXergy is "enough" is subjective.
We consume "fuel" ( eXergy, energy that can do work, here and now ),
same as the sun and everything else;
subjectively, we're _sure that nothing is better than us.
People want to know where/when "life" can exist in the Cosmos.
By "life" they mean themselves and their progeny.
The 4-Dimensional TimeScape ( past and future )
is static, immutable, eternal, without beginning or end;
However, that doesn't mean the past still exists -- it doesn't.
We ( humanity ) can't predict the weather over head, _exactly,
12:00 hours from now, to the second/meter;
but we _know that it's due to cause and effect.
Randomness is always ignorance; it's subjective, not intrinsic.
We're robots, programmed by Nature to play "The Stay Alive Game";
including: Subjective Pride, Breathing, Pissing, Shitting, Breeding, etc.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--9.04P.Seattle.2017
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Woody grabbed a lot of crotches.
You ( MrAA ) asked:
> Has [ Woody Allen ] given up incestuous relationships
> with his stepdaughters ?
Woody was never Soon-Yi's "dad".
They married when she was 27, and they're still together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soon-Yi_Previn#Marriage_to_Woody_Allen
Woody grabbed a lot of crotches;
no rape ( or incest ), the women wanted it.
After a detailed investigation,
he was found innocent of the incest charge.
Dylan's brother, Moses, currently a family therapist,
told People magazine:
Of course Woody did not molest my sister...
She loved him and looked forward to seeing him
when he would visit.
Moses says Mia Farrow, his mom,
manipulated her children into hating Allen as:
a vengeful way to pay him back for falling in love with Soon-Yi.
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Human gases/farts are killing us off.
Human gases/farts are killing us off.
Holding it in doesn't help, you have to breed less.
Marriage ( breeding ) is losing its shine,
especially in rich countries, so there's hope.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--1.38P.Seattle.2017
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╱ 1/1|20 T; 7 Minutes, GoogleG, Mar 4 { 1:49 P, 2017 }:34^(PST) Vეσɞ
Smoking doesn't "cause" cancer; it's "correlated to" cancer.
You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) replied ( to me ):
> > The world's ice has been melting at an accelerated rate,
> > closely tracking human gases/farts.
> >
> > To _honestly deny the connection, you need _hard evidence,
> > evidence you ( A.A. ) fail to produce.
> >
> > As a result, humanity will die off sooner, rather than later;
> > but it's more fun this way, so I'm OK with it.
>
> Nope, its a shortage of Pirates ... as per a 2012 article in Forbes:
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikaandersen/2012/03/23/true-fact-the-lack-of-pirates-is-causing-global-warming/
Right, correlations can be wrong and/or misleading.
For example:
Smoking doesn't "cause" cancer; it's "correlated to" cancer.
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╱ 2/3|125 T; 3 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Mar 4 { :45 P, 2017 }: ^(PST) VეθΕ
The cosmos evaporates/sublimates/randomizes, _naturally.
The entropy of the cosmos ratchets up _naturally;
i.e. the cosmos evaporates/sublimates/randomizes, _naturally.
Google "Heat Death of the Universe" and you get: ＜＜
The heat death of the universe is a plausible
ultimate fate of the universe in which the universe
has diminished to a state of no thermodynamic free
energy and therefore can no longer sustain processes
that increase entropy ( including computation and life ). ＞＞
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington wrote: ＜＜
If someone points out to you that
your pet theory of the universe is
in disagreement with Maxwell's equations --
then, so much the worse for Maxwell's equations.
If it is found to be contradicted by observers --
well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.
But, if your theory is found to be
against the second law of thermodynamics,
I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but
to collapse in deepest humiliation. ＞＞
-- From "The Nature of the Physical World", 1915, chapter 4.
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Human gases/farts.
The world's ice has been melting at an accelerated rate,
closely tracking human gases/farts.
To _honestly deny the connection, you need _hard evidence,
evidence you ( A.A. ) fail to produce.
As a result, humanity will die off sooner, rather than later;
but it's more fun this way, so I'm OK with it.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--8.56P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o99rv6$39u$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--4.12P.Seattle.2017
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╱ 1/1|92 D; 2.9 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Mar 4 { 9:55 A, 2017 }:48 VეΔɬ
You can't change how you were built.
You ( Michael Moroney ) wrote:
> naked mole rats have the same level of reactive oxygen species
> ( free radicals ) as the mouse but live 10 times as long.
>
> They have a much better DNA repair mechanism than the mouse, which is
> why they live longer despite similar reactive oxygen species levels.
No matter how you were built, with whatever "DNA repair",
_Oxygen _Consumption _Per _Pound determines your lifespan.
Like reptiles, Naked MoleRats assume the temperature of their surroundings,
thus _consuming far less oxygen ( per pound ).
Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_mole-rat#Thermoregulation
cold naked mole-rats huddle together or seek shallow
parts of the burrows that are warmed by the sun.
Conversely, when they get too hot, naked mole-rats
retreat to the deeper, cooler parts of the burrows.
Compared to rats, MoleRats have low metabolic/respiratory rates,
less oxygen intake ( per pound ); hence the longer lifespan.
Compared to your ancestors, you have a sedentary lifestyle,
and artificial heaters/coolers; so you live longer.
Compared to birds, Mammals have weaker mitochondria.
You can't change how you were built.
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╱ 1/2|121 A; 7 Minutes, GoogleG, 199.249.223.73, Mar 3 { :28 A, 2017 }:53^(PST) Vდεг
People chose SciFi over science.
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) told me:
> The jury is still out on whether [ 2,4-dinitrophenol ]
> or Paleo diets can extend the human lifespan.
They don't, quite the opposite.
However, if it makes you feel better, go with it.
Living faster is _not worse than living longer.
Like most people, you prefer ignorance.
George Lucas' net worth is 5.1 billion dollars
because most people chose SciFi over science.
> if you lower [ your ] oxygen consumption by choosing
> a sedentary lifestyle, will yo live longer ?
> _I DON'T THINK SO_!
Compared to your "NaturalSnowGoggles" ancestors,
you have _already chosen " a sedentary lifestyle ";
and, yes, that's why you're living longer.
Heating is no longer an issue, we have fire;
so Shorter, Skinnier people live longer because
moving around is easier -- it requires less oxygen.
No matter how you were built, with whatever mitochondria,
_Oxygen _Consumption _Per _Pound determines your lifespan.
---
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Kawasaki City, Kanagawa:
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╱ 1/1|119 A; 29 Minutes, GoogleG, 89.187.142.208, Mar 2 { 11:12 P, 2017 }:56^(PST) VდΡu
"Smart Phones" (kiosks) are fleeting, Win10 is long term.
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) told me:
> The chicks there [ Gold's Gym ]
> are fully satisfied with their iPhones,
> that's all they need to find a mate for tonight.
No, you don't understand women.
Men line up for sex; and it's a _long, _long line.
Women line up for marriage;
and the line is even longer, with no end in sight.
"Smart Phones" (kiosks) are fleeting, Win10 is long term.
John Gohde can't handle the commitment;
so he goes with Gold's Gym instead.
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╱ 1/1|118 A; 1 Minutes, GoogleG, 89.187.142.208, Mar 2 { 11:10 P, 2017 }: 9^(PST) VდΠϷ
And you can't change your mitochondria.
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) told me:
> Take some 2,4-dinitrophenol [DFN] if you want to live longer.
DFN makes you live faster, not longer.
WikiPedia says DFN "greatly increases [one's] metabolic rate".
Why not use Caffine and/or Cocaine instead ?
WikiPedia says DFN is " known to have serious ShortTerm
and _LongTerm effects, which can be _extremely _dangerous
to human health ".
For your sake, I hope you'll now acknowledge that
I'm right and you're wrong, _yet _again.
> mole-rats [ have ] higher levels of oxidative stress and damage
> [ so they have a ] longer lifespan
No.
Compared to us mammels, birds have stronger mitochondria.
And you can't change your mitochondria.
Naked MoleRats have the weaker mitochondria but,
because they consume less oxygen, they live longer
than ordinary squirrels/rats.
Your LifeSpan depends on your Mitochondrial design
and your _Oxygen _Consumption _Per _Pound.
Horses live 7 times longer than squirrels because,
per pound, they consume oxygen 7 times SLOWER
( and their mitochondria are similar ).
For your sake, I hope you'll now acknowledge that
I'm right and you're wrong, _yet _again.
> " Subjecting C. elegans to _Low _Amounts of oxidative stress
> can also induce longer lifespan and heightened stress resistance "
_Low _Amounts. Quoting your link
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0531556500001352
to date there is no direct evidence in cells or organisms
that mitochondrial proton cycling lowers ROS production
or oxidative damage or that it increases lifespan.
For your sake, I hope you'll now acknowledge that
I'm right and you're wrong, _yet _again.
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╳ 1/1|117 A; 16 Minutes, GoogleG, 92.222.69.25, Mar 2 { 10: 9 P, 2017 }:33^(PST) VდΖξ
I could make a lot of money at Gold's Gym.
I could make a lot of money at Gold's Gym,
helping people like John Gohde use a computer.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--4.12P.Seattle.2017
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Mammals ( e.g. you and Naked MoleRats ) have weaker mitochondria.
You pay a _heavy price for your natural&artificial heaters/coolers.
Like reptiles, Naked MoleRats assume the temperature of their surroundings,
thus they _consume far less oxygen, per pound.
Mammals ( e.g. you and Naked MoleRats ) have weaker mitochondria,
compared to birds; but, unlike you, MoleRats have
_very low metabolic/respiratory rates, less oxygen intake,
lengthening their lifespans, via less "oxidative stress and damage".
For your sake, I hope you'll now acknowledge that
I'm right and you're wrong, yet again.
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╱ 1/1|1 D; 16 Minutes, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Mar 2 { 7:41 P, 2017 }:11 Vდʜх
How Many Heartbeats Do You Have Left ?
You ( Bubonic_Betty ) replied ( to me ):
> > " How Many Heartbeats Do You Have Left ? ":
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7WWgo_ot2M
>
> Are you mentally retarded Relf?
The video is quite factual;
you, on the other hand, are spastic.
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╱ 3/3|115 A; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 149.202.238.204, Mar 2 { 5:50 P, 2017 }:38^(PST) Vდʊʞ
Linux hobbyware doesn't support all the Laptop hardware available
I'm a heavy, heavy internet/Win10 user; porn too, at times.
I've scanned for malware about 5 times in my life, that's it.
Always, no malware. UnLike Takuya Saitoh, I'm too smart to get it.
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╱ 1/3|115 A; 1.9 Hours, GoogleG, 79.137.87.212, Mar 2 { 5:12 P, 2017 }:24^(PST) VდʄO
Natural&Artificial heaters and coolers.
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) wrote:
> One cannot kill bed bugs with harsh chemicals(pesticides)
> without ( long term ) side effects on the tenants.
Our beloved Nicotine, Cocaine, Caffeine, Opiates, etc.,
are pesticides that _plants created to kill _bugs ( not _people ).
> The long-lived naked mole-rat shows much higher levels of
> oxidative stress and damage...
"oxidative stress and damage" shortens your life.
Naked MoleRats have _very low metabolic/respiratory rates.
Like reptiles, they assume the temperature of their surroundings,
thus _consuming far less oxygen than you, per pound.
Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_mole-rat#Thermoregulation
cold naked mole-rats huddle together or seek shallow
parts of the burrows that are warmed by the sun.
Conversely, when they get too hot, naked mole-rats
retreat to the deeper, cooler parts of the burrows.
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How Many Heartbeats Do You Have Left ?
" How Many Heartbeats Do You Have Left ? ":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7WWgo_ot2M
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╱ 2/2|92 D; 3.9 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Mar 2 { 11:31 A, 2017 }:50 VდɁɮ
Oxygen shortens your life.
As appealing as "immortal cancer cells" sounds,
I doubt you'd ever benefit from the research, Michael Moroney.
Oxygen shortens your life.
Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-radical_theory_of_aging
The free radical theory of aging ( FRTA )
states that organisms age because cells
accumulate free radical damage over time.
[....]
free radicals are highly reactive.
For most biological structures, free radical damage
is closely associated with oxidative damage.
[....]
mitochondrial oxygen radical generation
is lower in long-lived birds than in
short-lived mammals of comparable body size and metabolic rate.
"Life Extension" comes at a price; to wit:
Eat very little, your whole life, staying short and skinny.
There are no fat, tall 100 year olds.
Eat vegan ( like "LukeIsNotSexy" ).
Be mild and effeminate, MetroSexual.
Cut off your balls.
" You can live to be a hundred if you give up
all the things that make you want to live
to be a hundred. " -- Woody Allen.
Woody Allen knows, do you ?
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Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
Woody Allen knows, do you ?
" You can live to be a hundred if you give up
all the things that make you want to live
to be a hundred. " -- Woody Allen.
Woody Allen knows, do you ?
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"Life Extension" comes at a price.
You ( Sylvia_Else ) wrote:
> "Wild" humans don't do so well either.
You too can live to 100; just:
Eat very little, your whole life, staying short and skinny.
Eat vegan ( like "LukeIsNotSexy" ).
Be mild and effeminate, MetroSexual ( like "LukeIsNotSexy" ).
Cut off your balls.
This way, you consume less oxygen.
Yes, oxygen shortens your life.
"Life Extension" comes at a price.
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TakuyaSaitoh 5947d175-50b4-4fec-a7de-0b3059dd8aeb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--8.42P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|115 A; 3 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.254.23.203, Mar 1 { 8:30 P, 2017 }:20^(PST) VგЫK
Ignorance is bliss, and you have been OhSo ignorant, Takuya.
Can you transform yourself into a queen bee or bird ? !
No, you can not, of course.
You are who you are; so your LifeSpan depends on
your oxygen consumption. Testosterone is one way
to increase oxygen consumption, of course.
Ignorance is bliss, and you have been OhSo ignorant, Takuya.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--2.56P.Seattle.2017
Sylvia_Else│sylvia@notΞat_this_ ehpepeFrh2eU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--7.00P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|9 D; 11 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Mar 1 { 6:36 P, 2017 }:30^(11) VგИU
"Life Extension" comes at a price.
Quoting Sylvia_Else's link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulphur-crested_cockatoo#Behaviour
[ SulphurCrested Cockatoo ] can live upwards of 70 years in captivity,
although they only live to about 20–40 years in the wild.
Similarly, dormant bees live months, active bees live weeks.
Why ? Because the activated bee consumes oxygen FASTER.
"Life Extension" comes at a price; the choice is:
1 - Live FASTER, breathing FASTER. - OR -
2 - Live longer.
5 Immortal Species:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-2QH-b7zsc
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JohnSefton 76b3185e-0fd1-4c1e-8c26-cd8b63b6b0a6@googlegroups.com
Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmailΞcom o94vro$1j3d$1@gioia.aioe.org
JohnSefton dc02f15b-a689-4a25-96f5-0bc6b63ebe1f@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 58b76735$0$34552$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
hVac 2f70f3a9-41bb-48d1-91aa-14962a1dc0b9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--6.47P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 4/4|235 K; 24 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.61.18.231, Mar 1 { 5:42 P, 2017 }:36^(PST) VგϿa
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
Yesterday's religion is today's politics, and I'm agnostic.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--2.56P.Seattle.2017
Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe 24edd941-3018-4c4a-8107-afd7f96c8385@googlegroups.com
JohnSefton 82dbfeac-2283-40ca-a3f3-90340769cae4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--6.16P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|241 D; 13 Minutes, GoogleG, 142.165.85.227, Mar 1 { 5:53 P, 2017 }:37^(PST) VგАჟ
5 Immortal Species.
You ( John Sefton ) wrote:
> Shrews live 18 months and have a faster
> heart rate than Hummingbirds.
Maybe so, but you're not a shrew.
Dormant bees live months, active bees live weeks.
5 Immortal Species:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-2QH-b7zsc
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--1.31P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 58b204c8$0$41914$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--2.58P.Seattle.2017
MrAA b8c4d9b3-516e-4558-afea-25b3a9bee7d7@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.27--2.30P.Seattle.2017
MrAA b283c526-3a2e-4253-bca0-34e9c00796f1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--3.24P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/5|125 T; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 28 { 1:34 P, 2017 }:29^(PST) VბოЛ
You need something _super close, less than 100 feet away.
You ( A.A. ) replied ( to me ):
> > Surely, someone there has WiFi that you can use.
> > I'd post a notice, offering to pay for access.
>
> That's a good idea. I detect may ports in the area.
> I can detect the one at the bar down the street, and have their password,
> but I can't make it work. Too far away I guess.
> But a lot of poor people live here who can't afford access.
You need something _super close, less than 100 feet away;
"down the street" will _not work.
> > How much does the washing machine cost ?
> > How many square feet do you have ?
>
> Use of washers and dryers is free to tenants.
Very nice; two loads costs me $8.50, wash and dry.
> I think about 600 sq ft. Pretty small, huh?
As of January 2017, the _average "One Bedroom" apartment
in Seattle is 708 square feet, and costs $ 1,946/month.
Where I am, adjacent to the Univ. of Wash.
they're much, much smaller and more expensive.
> Is it C++ you code in as opposed to just c?
Yes, but _most of it ( 98% ? ) looks like C.
Converting C to C++ is _trivial, it takes a few minutes.
C++ has some nice features, so I use them.
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MrDFS o8vsr3$bl$2@dont-email.me
JohnGohde 062f13f9-5d6e-44de-9a15-9537cdb42558@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o91er9$b4s$2@dont-email.me
JohnGohde f46bd1c5-23c7-40e9-be0c-cd4b8d85fc75@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o945q0$cm$2@dont-email.me
TakuyaSaitoh 8d3514fc-73d3-47b4-b889-49ca024bb16b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--2.56P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|107 A; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 78.109.23.1, Feb 28 { 8:32 A, 2017 }:30^(PST) VბЫʖ
100 year old people are all short and skinny.
TakuyaSaitoh wrote:
> http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-blue-zone-loma-linda-20150711-story.html
> https://www.bluezones.com/exploration/loma-linda-california/
None of those 100 year olds are tall or fat because
they eat only _homemade food; beans, not meat and milk.
Likewise in Japan, 100 year old people are all short and skinny.
"Life Extension" comes at a price; the choice is:
1 - Live FASTER, breathing FASTER. - OR -
2 - Live longer.
Horses live 7 times longer than squirrels because,
per pound, they consume oxygen 7 times SLOWER.
A dormant bee lives many months;
once activated, it dies a few weeks later.
Why ? Because the activated bee consumes oxygen FASTER.
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MrDFS o8vsr3$bl$2@dont-email.me
JohnGohde 062f13f9-5d6e-44de-9a15-9537cdb42558@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o91er9$b4s$2@dont-email.me
JohnGohde f46bd1c5-23c7-40e9-be0c-cd4b8d85fc75@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o945q0$cm$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--2.34P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/5|273 T; 3.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 28 { 7:44 A, 2017 }:40^(-5) VბУʠ
HyperVitaminosis D, Premature Aging.
Quoting " HyperVitaminosis D ", " Premature Aging "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D#Premature_aging
Recent epidemiologic evidence suggests that there is
a narrow range of vitamin D levels in which vascular
function is optimized.
Levels above or below this natural homeostasis
of vitamin D increase mortality.
Overall, excess or deficiency in the calcipherol system
appear to cause abnormal functioning and premature aging.
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BenJacoby 58b14351$0$41911$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--1.31P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 58b204c8$0$41914$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--2.58P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 58b49d35$0$59746$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.27--3.08P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|418 D; 52 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM⁻ɛȶςK, Feb 27 { 1:42 P, 2017 }: 9^(-5) Vბɡ9
I'm "rich enough", very happy.
You ( Ben Jacoby ) replied ( to me ):
> > I'm rich enough, for sure,
> > but _not as rich as the SciFi guys;
> > George Lucas' net worth is 5.1 billion dollars.
>
> Sure I believe you are rich, Rolf, just like I believe
> HVAC is "co-author" of books on analytic geometry.
No, I'm "rich enough", very happy.
Officially, I'm "poor", very poor.
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BenJacoby 58b14351$0$41911$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--1.31P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 58b204c8$0$41914$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--2.58P.Seattle.2017
MrAA b8c4d9b3-516e-4558-afea-25b3a9bee7d7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.27--2.30P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
+Trusted, 40 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 27 { 1:30 P, 2017 }: ^(PST) Vბɟ0
Someone there has WiFi that you can use.
You ( A.A. ) asked me:
> No longer living next to the laundry room?
> Moving on up, huh?
Yes, I'm 10 feet higher now.
> In our basement laundry room there is another door on the far side.
> I could hardly believe it when I found out that
> somebody is actually living in there!
You live in an apartment complex ?
Surely, someone there has WiFi that you can use.
I'd post a notice, offering to pay for access.
How much does the washing machine cost ?
How many square feet do you have ?
> I hope they're getting cheap rent!
It's in Gresham/Portland so, no, they aren't.
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AbhinavLal 9a622560-c672-43c1-872f-fd606af07724@googlegroups.com
Helmut_Wabnig│hwabnig@_-_---_-_ 4r45bcdv1nl3psgfqlr0jt5bg19pcmglq7@4ax.com
AbhinavLal e8997f30-49da-4173-97de-2f4f05925ea8@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.26--1.42A.Seattle.2017
AbhinavLal f92b2f7d-d193-479b-8fe3-254f06cd7395@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.26--2.58A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|15 A; 9 Minutes, GoogleG, 182.64.17.165, Feb 26 { 2:39 A, 2017 }:15^(PST) VაɪΥ
General Relativity does not predict "garbage in" ( or out ).
You ( Abhinav Lal ) replied ( to me ):
> > There are no infinities in physics _measurements.
>
> What about in physics theories?
> Wouldn't a theory be wrong if it predicted infinities,
> like GR's singularity?
General Relativity has inputs and outputs.
Garbage in, Garbage out.
GR does not predict "garbage in" ( or out ).
SciFi pays better than real science;
George Lucas' net worth is 5.1 billion dollars.
People are _paid to misinterpret GR.
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AbhinavLal 9a622560-c672-43c1-872f-fd606af07724@googlegroups.com
Helmut_Wabnig│hwabnig@_-_---_-_ 4r45bcdv1nl3psgfqlr0jt5bg19pcmglq7@4ax.com
AbhinavLal e8997f30-49da-4173-97de-2f4f05925ea8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.26--1.42A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|14 A; 6 Minutes, GoogleG, 182.64.17.165, Feb 26 { 1:28 A, 2017 }:50^(PST) Vაɞа
There are no infinities in physics _measurements.
There are no infinities in physics _measurements.
MetaPhysics/Religion has infinities, of course.
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AbhinavLal ee30c4c0-ea0b-40fc-a224-3fe89697d3b8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--4.59P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|12 A; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 171.50.165.249, Feb 25 { 3:30 P, 2017 }: 1^(PST) Vяჱ1
We were _not designed for this environment.
Abhinav Lal asked:
> Is societal collapse inevitable due to environmental disaster?
Yes, and realatively soon, compared to the dinosaurs ( now birds ).
For hundreds of thousands of years,
our ancestors mostly died from a _lack of resourses;
they had to breed continually, so their line didn't die out.
Today, we have the opposite problem:
Too much money/food/fuel/Breeding etc.
We were _not designed for this environment.
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BenJacoby 58b14351$0$41911$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--1.31P.Seattle.2017
BenJacoby 58b204c8$0$41914$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--2.58P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|409 D; 1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM⁻4ȶʞъ, Feb 25 { 2:27 P, 2017 }:18^(-5) VяღΨ
SciFi pays better than real science.
You ( Ben Jacoby ) replied ( to me ):
> > Why did AT&T shut off your DSL, Ben Jacoby ?
>
> Because they are terminating all their DSL service
> and trying to force everyone onto their U-verse service.
> Didn't work with me.
If you had the money, you could pay for
the "triple-play" bullshit and just not use it.
> > Why are you "moving from computer to computer" ?
>
> Request denied.
Are you homeless and ashamed ?
> Fist bump through the glass of your basement window?
I'm tired of denying the many lies you ( Ben Jacoby )
tell about me, to make yourself feel better.
I live in Seattle, a few feet from the University of Washington,
I manage a 32 unit rooming house;
I _like basement rooms, but don't reside in one.
Where do you live, pray tell ? ! a WalMart parking lot ?
I'm rich enough, for sure,
but _not as rich as the SciFi guys;
George Lucas' net worth is 5.1 billion dollars.
SciFi pays better than real science;
you _should know, you're waaaaay into it.
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Archimedes_Plutonium│plutonium_ ae9b8286-1b2a-4bbd-afe2-c5ea524fb5d7@googlegroups.com
MrAA 43be31a6-985b-4a04-ba5c-b00bcdda6ff2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--2.26P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 2/3|127 T; 27 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 25 { :46 P, 2017 }:35^(PST) VяვС
The recent riots in Rinkeby ( Stockholm, Sweden ).
Hasn't Archimedes Plutonium seen the CNN report on
the recent riots in Rinkeby ( Stockholm, Sweden ) ? :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDbrbUnJ9k8
CNN can't identify what's "Bad" or "Fake" !
To them, "upright citizens" are racist Hitlers, deplorables;
and it's driving millions of people into Trump's hands.
Trump says he doesn't like " _Bad hombres ".
The _Fake _News ( CNN ) can't/doesn't understand this;
so it says: " Trump doesn't like 'hombres' ( Mexicans ) ".
Trump says he doesn't like " _Fake News ".
CNN can't/doesn't understand, so it says:
" Trump doesn't like the news ".
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BenJacoby 58b14351$0$41911$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--1.31P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
-Dropped, 12.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Astraweb.COM⁻8Ͼτe, Feb 25 { :49 A, 2017 }:55^(-5) Vяιɳ
Why did AT&T shut off your DSL, Ben Jacoby ?
Why did AT&T shut off your DSL, Ben Jacoby ?
Why are you "moving from computer to computer" ?
Your Usenet/eMail skills are _excellent;
I read your headers, of course.
However, your (pseudo) physics is bad;
so my newsreader (usually) drops your posts.
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8sdnr0173s@news6.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.25--0.58P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 5/6|137 A; 2.4 Hours, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 25 { 9: 9 A, 2017 }:15 VябΥ
If you're spastic, please stay away from desktop environments.
A desktop environment makes it _easy for you to Launch|SwitchBetween
your favorite Commands|Settings; e.g. MicroSoft Window's TaskBar.
Google Chrome and Mozilla FireFox/ThunderBird, with HTML, CSS and JavaScript,
are famous graphical user interfaces; they display text and graphics,
in windows and tabs, and have selectable buttons, menus, text and windows.
If you're spastic, please stay away from desktop environments,
as you might accidently hit something you shouldn't.
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Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmailΞcom o8nr46$1ls9$1@gioia.aioe.org
BenJacoby 58b00ae4$0$32677$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com
JimPennino 4vf6od-ta3.ln1@mail.specsol.com
EdProchak 287c5aa4-0e02-4586-894c-f985be525f1b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--2.26P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/4|50 T; 25 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Feb 24 { 1:32 P, 2017 }: 6^(PST) Vяɟɾ
Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much.
Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much.
Science Fiction is fun and has made people _rich.
So, please, don't be hard on them ( Ben Jacoby, TreBert et al. );
society made them that way, via punishments and rewards.
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MichaelMoroney o8jcd2$f3o$1@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--0.01A.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8kopu$9lv$5@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--0.56P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8kvua$8di$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--1.39P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|71 D; 2 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 22 { 1:30 P, 2017 }:50 Vэოo
"Gravitational Potential" depends on _density, not "center of mass".
> > Once entropy has evaporated a black hole away,
> > the "gravitational potential" associated with it is gone.
>
> No it isn't. [...] particles radiate away from it
> and they will have a center of mass at the black hole location.
The cosmos has no center ( the center is subjective ),
and the strength of the "gravitational potential"
depends on _density, not "center of mass".
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--7.50P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8j5ii$ad1$1@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--10.05P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8jcd2$f3o$1@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--0.01A.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8kopu$9lv$5@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--0.56P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|70 D; 15 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 22 { 11:29 A, 2017 }: 2 Vэшм
"eXergy" ( energy that can do work, here and now ) is consumed away.
Once entropy has evaporated a black hole away,
the "gravitational potential" associated with it is gone.
For this reason, "Gravitational Potential/Kinetic Energy"
is _not a fully reversible process;
"eXergy" ( energy that can do work, here and now ) is consumed away.
Nature has programmed us, all of us,
to assert that we are the best thing ever.
We're robots, programmed by Nature to play "The Stay Alive Game";
including: Breathing, Pissing, Shitting, Breeding, etc.
We consume "fuel" ( eXergy, energy that can do work, here and now ),
same as the sun and everything else;
yet we're _sure that nothing is better than us.
People want to know where/when "life" can exist in the Cosmos.
By "life" they mean themselves and their progeny.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--4.33P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8itci$23r$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--7.50P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8j5ii$ad1$1@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--10.05P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8jcd2$f3o$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--0.01A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
-Dropped, 57 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 21 { 10:51 P, 2017 }:14 VэΝΤ
I agree with cosmologists, Michael Moroney doesn't.
I agree with cosmologists, you ( Michael Moroney ) don't.
Cosmologists say nothing about "gravitational potential", right ?
Instead, they ( like me ) say:
The SpaceTime of the known Universe is flat.
Entropy is ratcheting up, they say; i.e. exergy is ratcheting down;
in the end, you have "heat death" ( uniformity ).
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Pentcho_Valev│pvalev@yahooΞcom 99a43851-c06f-4423-85be-16acc0df7576@googlegroups.com
MrAA 6e004167-bc29-44cf-8e93-37ad3beae4fa@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--4.33P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8itci$23r$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--7.50P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8j5ii$ad1$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--10.05P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|68 D; 40 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 21 { 8:54 P, 2017 }:42 Vэʩg
13.8 billion years, all flat.
> > " gravitational potential " ? !
> > Now Newtonian of you, Michael Moroney.
>
> OK, what would a better GR term be for that potential energy?
Cosmologists say that the SpaceTime of the known Universe is flat.
Entropy is ratcheting up, they say; i.e. exergy is ratcheting down;
in the end, you have "heat death" ( uniformity ).
They say nothing about "gravitational potential", right ?
General Relativity says:
As you move unalterably along the ( bent ) time axis,
at the speed of light, your position in ( bent ) space changes,
depending on your ( relative ) speed and the warpature.
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Pentcho_Valev│pvalev@yahooΞcom 99a43851-c06f-4423-85be-16acc0df7576@googlegroups.com
MrAA 6e004167-bc29-44cf-8e93-37ad3beae4fa@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--4.33P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8itci$23r$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--7.50P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|67 D; 1.1 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 21 { 6:34 P, 2017 }:58 Vэʑи
13.8 billion years, all flat.
"gravitational potential" ? !
Now Newtonian of you, Michael Moroney.
Meanwhile, _real cosmologists use General Relativity
to model the curvature of spacetime ( LambdaCDM );
near as they can tell, it's "flat" ( not curved ).
13.8 billion years, all flat.
Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_universe
experimental data from various, independent sources
( WMAP, BOOMERanG and Planck for example )
confirm that the observable universe is flat
with only a 0.4% margin of error.
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Pentcho_Valev│pvalev@yahooΞcom 99a43851-c06f-4423-85be-16acc0df7576@googlegroups.com
MrAA 6e004167-bc29-44cf-8e93-37ad3beae4fa@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--4.33P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 4/6|126 T; 22 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 21 { 4: 1 P, 2017 }:23^(PST) Vэɸɓ
As the cosmos gets thinner, gravity/exergy diminishes.
The "Big Bang" is a misnomer, of course.
Net Net, there's more evaporating than condensing;
i.e. entropy ratchets up as exergy is consumed away.
As the cosmos gets thinner, gravity/exergy diminishes;
According to General Relativity, that means that
space is expanding exponentially and clocks are ticking ever faster.
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MichaelMoroney o8caei$h0b$4@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--0.05P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 6tujact4f4jq4q320ati72uppn4s83h410@4ax.com
. 0f7008fd-2bc1-4792-bd0c-3bf310fcf0a3@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--9.34P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8esq9$dp6$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--10.59A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|66 D; 4.4 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 20 { 6: A, 2017 }:41 Vьʌf
The ColorBlind see khaki ( wood/sand/rock ) better.
You ( Michael Moroney ) replied ( to me ):
> > Desert dwellers are more likey to be ColorBlind
> > because it allows them to see more shades of sand/rock.
>
> And your evidence of this is.... ?
The ColorBlind see khaki ( wood/sand/rock ) better.
10% of Arabs ( Druzes ) are Red-Green color blind;
more than any other group:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness#Red.E2.80.93green_color_blindness_2
Quoting:
http://discovermagazine.com/2006/mar/colorblind-kakhi-brown-cambridge/
Red-green color-blind people may miss out on the
subtle tones of a forest or a bouquet of roses, but
they do get compensation. Biologists at Cambridge
University and the University of Newcastle upon Tyne
in England find that color-blind men are
extraordinary connoisseurs of khaki.
Red-green color blindness is caused by an unusual
form of a light receptor in the eye, which is
sensitive to a different range of colors than normal.
This variant type of receptor makes it harder to
distinguish among red, orange, yellow, and green.
The resulting shift in color perception bestows extra
sensitivity to other hues, however, as the
researchers demonstrated by asking subjects to rate
the similarity of 15 circles painted in tones of khaki.
People with regular vision struggled with the
test, while color-blind men aced it. The findings
lend credence to the theory that people with
red-green color blindness make good hunters or
soldiers because they are not easily fooled by camouflage.
The researchers hypothesize that the
variant form of receptor could be an evolutionary
relic from the time when early humans needed to spot
predators or food hidden in branches and leaves.
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HughHuntzinger 7c543124-a034-415d-a6f7-e64fa225aeee@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--2.22P.Seattle.2017
. o8caei$h0b$4@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--0.05P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 6tujact4f4jq4q320ati72uppn4s83h410@4ax.com
TakuyaSaitoh 0f7008fd-2bc1-4792-bd0c-3bf310fcf0a3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--9.34P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|106 A; 9 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.40.233, Feb 19 { 9:15 P, 2017 }:47^(PST) Vьqϒ
Desert dwellers are more likey to be ColorBlind.
Desert dwellers are more likey to be ColorBlind
because it allows them to see more shades of sand/rock.
Also, they're better at seeing shapes; color hides shapes.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--10.16P.Seattle.2017
. 7c543124-a034-415d-a6f7-e64fa225aeee@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--2.22P.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o8caei$h0b$4@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--0.05P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|65 D; 4.5 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 19 { 6:34 A, 2017 }:58 VыЗи
ColorBlind Snipers/Spotters.
You ( MichaelMoroney ) replied ( to me ):
> > Male color blindness is there for a reason: seeing in the dark.
>
> No, Jeff. Low light vision is from what are called rods.
> They are separate from the cones.
ColorBlindness is far too common to be 100% useless.
My ColorBlind friend ( now dead ) was good at spotting stuff
that no one else could see. I should've written:
Outlines, rather than colors, are responsible for
pattern recognition. In the military,
ColorBlind snipers and spotters are highly valued for these reasons.
http://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/44140/what-is-the-evolutionary-advantage-of-red-green-color-blindness
Red, Yellow and Green traffic lights should have different shapes;
maybe triangle, square and round.
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8apgv01kn2@news3.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--6.00P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|151 A; 35 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 18 { 4:39 P, 2017 }:59 Vыɾϟ
qBitTorrent is a fine BitTorrent client, much better than uTorrent.
qBitTorrent is a fine BitTorrent client, much better than uTorrent.
It's based on the Qt toolkit.
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ScottDoty egs5k3Foo1oU7@mid.individual.net
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8aogi01jde@news6.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--5.45P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 2/4|151 A; 52 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 18 { 4:22 P, 2017 }:42 VыɻШ
I can download it as an MP3, if I want.
In FireFox, I have a YouTube search option.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Don%27t+Wanna+Fight
Once at the video, "Don't Wanna Fight",
I just RightClick for Video DownLoad Helper.
I can download it to a .MP3 file, if I want.
Most videos have several HD options ( 1080p );
Occationally, UHD ( 4K, 2160p ) is there ( more and more ).
I can download to lowerRes files, if I want.
Selecting an option quick and easy.
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8aifd030p7@news7.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--3.08P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|142 A; 22 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 18 { 2:39 P, 2017 }:41 Vыɪφ
When the YouTube show is 20 minutes or larger.
You ( F_Russell ) wrote:
> Only a total asshole watches videos directly on YouTube.
> The smart user will first download the file and then view it off-line.
Yes, I do that ( using Video DownLoad Helper, FireFox ).
Problem is, if the show is 20 minutes or larger.
You don't want to download a huge file,
only to discover that it's crappy click bait.
So you have to view it first, before downloading it.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.59P.Seattle.2017
MrAA 5334a11b-1fd0-45d2-bb1c-911c7b71067e@googlegroups.com
MrAA b4831a6c-79e7-48c5-ab9e-d39ad13b709f@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--3.04P.Seattle.2017
MrAA 512ae133-96c6-4d6a-acfb-89c508e41d86@googlegroups.com
MrAA cc4fe67d-0378-4bd5-8a91-f3bf8fee1258@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--2.55P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/5|121 T; 22 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 18 { 2:18 P, 2017 }: 3^(PST) Vыɧ3
Lost Bookstores.
Double-A wrote:
> there is an Old Navy store where that Borders bookstore used to be!
> Two small bookstores here have closed since I have been here,
> and I know of none here now.
I see: Mt. Hood Community College Bookstore:
26000 SE Stark St. Gresham, Oregon 97030
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/104348244401952386352/photos/@45.5158711,-122.3958252,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m3!8m2!3m1!1e1
But it ain't much.
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8a6om019et@news4.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvjo3.aviub@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.29P.Seattle.2017
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8adco01e9j@news4.newsguy.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--1.55P.Seattle.2017
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8ahgu01fdu@news3.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--2.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|141 A; 4 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 18 { 2:23 P, 2017 }:26 Vыɧე
JavaScript is all about the clicks, I've noticed.
You ( F_Russell ) wrote:
> All web developers are supreme idiots because
> they cannot comprehend the gigantic mess to which they contribute.
JavaScript is all about the clicks, I've noticed.
Google's YouTube makes you click ads all the time;
and, to do that, they use JavaScript.
I'm not selling anything, so my website ( Jeff-Relf.Me )
doesn't need that shit.
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MrDFS o85tea$tbk$1@dont-email.me
HughHuntzinger 3aa90456-04e1-4274-930e-f70269b063c9@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o86tc5$sq5$2@dont-email.me
HughHuntzinger a154a3ec-32bc-4aed-b0a1-4bc43ca64b6b@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--10.16P.Seattle.2017
HughHuntzinger 7c543124-a034-415d-a6f7-e64fa225aeee@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--2.22P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|25 T; 9 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.40.182, Feb 18 { 1:28 P, 2017 }:36^(PST) VыɞТ
Don't _beg for applause ( and money ), earn it.
Generally, I _like black and white photos/films;
in low light, everything is black and white.
Male color blindness is there for a reason: seeing in the dark.
" Free Sex, Free Love and Feminism " have dubious value, I think;
especially when it means:
Thieving Junkies ( including _agressive begging ),
Chronic Immaturity and Rogue Terrorists.
GhostBusters 2016 is likely to be a $70 million loss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters_%282016_film%29#Box_office
Women who _bitch about not being paid like men don't impress me.
Don't _beg for applause ( and money ), earn it.
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o89ps9014fr@news3.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahjvuz003.ayt@rooftop.invalid
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8a6om019et@news4.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvjo3.aviub@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.29P.Seattle.2017
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8adco01e9j@news4.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--1.55P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|140 A; 24 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 18 { 1:12 P, 2017 }:56 Vыɜu
Are you handling random line endings ?
You replied (to me):
> > P.S. Web servers end each line with "\r\n" ( DOS ),
> > not "\n" ( Unix ) nor "\r" ( Mac ).
>
> A web server just "serves" whatever it is asked to serve.
> The author of the web page, or most likely the author's software,
> adds the line endings.
Very true, I was wrong, sorry.
Are you handling random line endings,
including _mixed line endings ( "\r\n" and "\n" ),
and/or unicode control characters like:
U+0085, U+008d, U+2028, U+2029 ?
"Next Line (NEL)":
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0085/index.htm
"Reverse Line Feed":
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/008d/index.htm
"Line Separator":
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2028/index.htm
"Paragraph Separator":
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2029/index.htm
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MrDFS o85o5s$gsq$3@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvjzo3.ag@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS o86r3c$kin$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--5.39P.Seattle.2017
Steve_Crook│steve@mixminΞnet slrnoagr7i.k66.steve@fleegle.mixmin.net
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 2ubhac5mdsrmb5ob2l8nhd5neljbtngr68@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.59P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/1|10 A; 3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Feb 18 { :36 P, 2017 }:24^(-5) VыɖO
I'd ByPass your block in a New York minute.
Speaking of my MessageIDs ( Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--5.39P.Seattle.2017 ),
You ( Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq ) wrote:
> [ I could flood Usenet with MessageID's like his, one for every minute ].
> This would cover the range of his stupid MIDs
> and any post he sent would be rejected as a duplicate header.
Go for it, I'd _love to see that.
In the unlikely event that you succeeded
( flooding Usenet all day, every day, 24/7 ),
I'd ByPass your block in a New York minute.
Steve_Crook, sometimes all you have is a MessageID,
sans "From:" or "Date:"... duh !
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F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o882ng1ao8@news6.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid avuo3.g9@rooftop.invalid
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o89ps9014fr@news3.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahjvuz003.ayt@rooftop.invalid
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o8a6om019et@news4.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvjo3.aviub@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.29P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/3|85 K; 24 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Feb 18 { 11:43 A, 2017 }: 3 VыɅȵ
.google-ad-skyscraper { Display: None !important; }
In your "userContent.CSS", FireFox, kill the ad this way:
@-moz-document domain(google.com) {
.google-ad-skyscraper { Display: None !important; } }
More generally, this way:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
P.S. Web servers end each line with "\r\n" ( DOS ),
not "\n" ( Unix ) nor "\r" ( Mac ).
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HughHuntzinger 76942599-104a-4156-9fc0-fcc1ad8caf42@googlegroups.com
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o85qg932coc@news3.newsguy.com
MrDFS o85tea$tbk$1@dont-email.me
HughHuntzinger 3aa90456-04e1-4274-930e-f70269b063c9@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o86tc5$sq5$2@dont-email.me
HughHuntzinger a154a3ec-32bc-4aed-b0a1-4bc43ca64b6b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--10.16P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
+Trusted, 7.7 Hours, GoogleG, 73.213.222.11, Feb 17 { 1:52 P, 2017 }:11^(PST) VъσϹ
Thieving Junkies, Chronic Immaturity and Rogue Terrorists.
You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) wrote:
> There is an "old" undertone to [ black and white ]
> because of the accident of photographic history (and costs),
> but look also at how it can also deliberately convey messages
> on its own through contrast.
>
> The Wizard of Oz was one cinematic example, but its use in
> "Pleasantville" (1998) was IMO actually quite stunning.
I just watched it ( "Pleasantville" 1998 ).
It was an argument against 1958, when Amarica was "great".
Supposedly, everyone was racist back then,
complete with NaziEsque book burning.
Supposedly, "free sex, free love and feminism ( in that order )"
transformed society into the better world we enjoy today.
> The use of the lack of light is a related technique as well,
> as is also expressing something by deliberately not showing it
> (obliquely).
>
> Coding can similarly follow life in that what may be
> the most important part is not what is, but instead, what is not.
True, the movie didn't mention today's darker side:
Thieving Junkies, Chronic Immaturity and Rogue Terrorists.
We have to choose the LeastWorst options, of course;
today, that means Trump, apparently,
because he'd weed them out, somehow.
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owl│owl@rooftop_invalid xjvjoo.wgi@rooftop.invalid
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o85mmb02boi@news6.newsguy.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid avuc003.ar@rooftop.invalid
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny dJ6dnQDyXsMhMzvFnZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@giganews.com
ChrisAhlstrom o86jls$nqp$1@dont-email.me
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o86lmk02p8v@news3.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--7.11P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╳ 4/6|135 A; 14.6 Hours, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 17 { 3:10 A, 2017 }:12 VъɯϺ
236 columns of text, No side panels.
F_Russell wrote:
> Important men have their own OFFICE [ not a cubicle ].
I work from home, programming.
Decades ago, when I didn't have a PC at home,
I'd come to work at odd hours, when everyone else was gone.
I was close to the salesmen, so I had my own room/office
in their _fancy suites, downtown Seattle and Bellevue.
Again, I was mostly alone, as the salesmen seldom came in.
When they did come in, it was _party time, not work.
When I edit code, using Visual Studio 2017,
it looks like this:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG
236 columns of text, No side panels. To find a function,
I just search for it, instead of using a side panel of "classes".
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MrDFS o84kjd$dsc$2@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahjcov003.a@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS o85o5s$gsq$3@dont-email.me
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahvjzo3.ag@rooftop.invalid
MrDFS o86r3c$kin$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--5.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
╱ 1/23|187 T; 12.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 17 { 4:44 A, 2017 }:40^(-5) Vъɿʠ
My MessageID is shorter, yet more informative.
I think MrDFS is askinging why hex, and not Base64.
Compare Sandman's MessageID with mine:
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--3.55P.Seattle.2017
sandman-19b10e0fa7c46fc5ca82d2aaba3bf4f1@individual.net
Mine is shorter, yet more informative.
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AbhinavLal 270e1bff-3ac5-4f59-9887-79181003745c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--3.55P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|8 A; 1 Hours, GoogleG, 122.162.237.236, Feb 17 { 2:31 P, 2017 }:38^(PST) Vъϐɢ
We are the best thing ever ( not ).
_
You ( Abhinav Lal ) wrote:
> If the human brain is the most complex object in the universe,
> why hasn't it come up with a deeper understanding of nature,
> that is more complex?
We ( humanity ) create models of reality for _our benefit;
our models are subjective, relative, _not intrinsic to nature.
The moon is 100% predictable because it's so damn large.
A million coin tosses is ultra predictable,
because the sample size is so large.
What will be the result of the next toss ?
No one knows. It's _fully causal, but unknown.
Pseudo-, Semi- Random.
But, if you were the size of the Milky Way,
the Moon would seem SemiRandom, unknown to you.
And, if you were the size of an atom,
a coin toss would be _fully predictable.
Nature has programmed us, all of us,
to assert that we are the best thing ever.
We're robots, programmed by Nature to play "The Stay Alive Game";
including: Breathing, Pissing, Shitting, Breeding, etc.
We consume "fuel" ( eXergy, energy that can do work ),
same as the sun and everything else;
yet we're _sure that nothing is better than us.
People want to know where/when "life" can exist in the Cosmos.
By "life" they mean themselves and their progeny.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--3.11P.Seattle.2017
MrAA 47a0ad4e-e850-4a2a-b8a8-5189a6ae6521@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--2.19P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/5|112 T; 10 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 17 { 1:29 P, 2017 }: 4^(PST) Vъοо
Choosing the LeastWorst Option.
After the local Medici family defeated Machiavelli's troops,
he was tortured for three weeks and then released.
Pope Julius II helped the Medici and banned Machiavelli's books.
The Pope made him famous, a lasting legend.
His philosphy was: Choose the LeastWorst Option.
Not: The ends justify the means.
U.S. and Russian Presidents kill and lie all the time,
it's just part of the job: Choosing the LeastWorst Option.
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SteveCarroll c3aa1b38-70c9-4a0a-a475-92af4f002db2@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny yemdnb86WMfPUTnFnZ2dnUU7-d_NnZ2d@giganews.com
nobody│nobody@news_eternal o82j74$8d5$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS o84loe$i18$3@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--3.37P.Seattle.2017
Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall i0keac9s9ivmjf16lorqnedjqhhe20m94p@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--1.16P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.Lang.C++
+-, 1 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Feb 17 { 11:35 A, 2017 }: ^(-5) VъΥк
I have UltraCustom solutions.
You ( Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq ) replied ( to me ):
> > For me, and only me, my shit is the best:
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
>
> If your own code was so great you'd market it.
> But, the sad fact is your code is so idiosyncratic
> and absurd that nobody but you could abide it.
What works for me, wouldn't work for you,
nor would it work for 99.999% of the world.
I write code, all the time, and I constantly modify it;
99.999% of the world can't do that, not like me.
Hence, I have UltraCustom solutions.
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SteveCarroll 1a7877b4-85ad-44a2-9c30-8c4ee4e7b3de@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny pOGdnY0x_cB-JjnFnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com
SteveCarroll c3aa1b38-70c9-4a0a-a475-92af4f002db2@googlegroups.com
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny yemdnb86WMfPUTnFnZ2dnUU7-d_NnZ2d@giganews.com
nobody│nobody@news_eternal o82j74$8d5$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS o84loe$i18$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--3.37P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 6/7|157 T; 6.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 16 { 9: 1 A, 2017 }:11^(-5) VщаȽ
Nothing could be more custom, programmable, than my own code.
slrn is perfect for LinuxLoving CommandLineJockies
who ssh into remote machines. It's very programmable.
Mozilla ThunderBird is perfect for MouseLoving,
HTML/eMail users who can program it using CSS and JavaScript.
It's very, _very programmable.
For me, and only me, my shit is the best:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
Nothing could be more custom, programmable, than my own code.
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Slimer o7tqq7$a6a$1@dont-email.me
MrDFS o7tr8n$b5j$2@dont-email.me
GreyCloud│Cumulus@mistΞcom o7vlqc$ps$23@dont-email.me
MrDFS o809j8$beo$1@dont-email.me
GreyCloud│Cumulus@mistΞcom o827fq$6b1$6@dont-email.me
MrDFS o84lpg$i18$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--3.27P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 7/7|157 T; 6.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 16 { 9: 1 A, 2017 }:47^(-5) Vщаɫ
Kings kill, and lie; and Trump does so _proudly.
Trump is thin skinned and bombastic.
The tells whoppers -- big, obvious lies -- all the time.
Still, I like him, because he's not politically correct ( fuck feminists )
and he tries to make better deals Re: goods and people crossing our borders.
And he likes to build shit.
Kings kill, and lie; and Trump does so _proudly.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--5.12P.Seattle.2017
MrAA 273986f1-a632-478f-80a4-0ad7d6b5b618@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.47P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.59P.Seattle.2017
MrAA 5334a11b-1fd0-45d2-bb1c-911c7b71067e@googlegroups.com
MrAA b4831a6c-79e7-48c5-ab9e-d39ad13b709f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--3.04P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|104 T; 8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 16 { 2:36 P, 2017 }:43^(PST) Vщშh
Bookstores.
> > Gresham Wifi:
> > http://www.openwifispots.com/citylist_free_wifi_wireless_hotspot-Gresham_OR.aspx
>
> At least the list you gave me turned up a Borders Bookstore here in Gresham.
> I am thankful for that since
> I have been looking for a good bookstore here for a long time.
Yeah, that's a nice little mall,
next to the Gresham City Hall MAX Station'
24th stop eastbound on the eastside MAX branch, Blue Line.
Portland is nice.
I hang out at this bookstore ( Amazon ):
https://uvillage.com/amazon-books/
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Amazon+Books/
Washington Square, Portland, also has one:
https://www.amazon.com/b?node=13270229011
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Serg_Io│invliad@invalidΞcom o7r866$9mo$1@gioia.aioe.org
MichaelMoroney o7taml$5lg$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.14--6.18P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Lang.C++, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
-Dropped, 1.2 Days, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 13 { 2: 7 P, 2017 }:17 VчუɅ
Michael Moroney can't/won't read me properly.
Edit WikiPedia, if you want to make a lasting contribution.
Usenet is a playground, the opposite of work.
Obviously, you ( Michael Moroney ) can't/won't read me properly.
I say " randomness is ignorance ", not " there is no randomness ".
"Big/Einsteinian" and "Small/Random" are _relative, _not _intrinsic.
Quite unlike you, or anyone else here, I post _useful apps;
source and object code, input and output.
So, even if I'm a " really bad programmer ", you're worse.
The best code ( for me, and only me )
is the code I designed and wrote myself; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MyPlayList.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Phy_Regs.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
etc.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.14--9.30A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
I breathe deeper than most everyone else, naturally.
At last, I determined what was making me cough ( when stressed ):
" Fight or Flight " adrenaline rushes; heavy breathing.
Before, I thought it might be cigarettes, obesity,
and/or throat ( or lung ) irritation.
Now that I know the cause, the solution is simple: Calm Down.
I can reducing my oxygen consumption rate naturally, mentally;
no need for drugs ( but hard candy helps ).
People _often ask me why I sweat so much ( it's bad, really bad ),
and/or why I wear nothing but a t-shirt and shorts in freezing weather.
Answer: I breathe deeper than most everyone else, naturally.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.42A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 722b9a6b-1397-4d24-9439-d24ffee00721@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--6.14P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|121 A; 14 Minutes, GoogleG, 94.23.173.249, Feb 13 { 5:51 P, 2017 }:50^(PST) VшIϖ
Marriage is a sucker's bet, don't take it.
Marriage is a sucker's bet, Takuya Saitoh, don't take it.
Today's women are independent, not subservient.
And, when they leave, you'll pay for kids that you'll never see.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny KNydnYgyFcLjuTzFnZ2dnUU7-IOdnZ2d@giganews.com
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg egcn4iFr5o1U1@mid.individual.net
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny _4idnSLmhpNDsTzFnZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg egcud9Fr5o1U4@mid.individual.net
SteveCarroll feddde17-f311-4b14-ac94-d7ef9fef616c@googlegroups.com
MrDFS o7t3tc$6sh$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--3.24P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/3|104 T; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 13 { :14 P, 2017 }:15^(-5) Vчაʇ
Proper Hashes/Encription use Mime Headers.
Proper Hashes/Encription use Mime Headers;
you shouldn't see it ( raw encoding ) in the Body.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--3.11P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
Be a killer, Be a king.
Quoting " Donald Trump is the American Machiavelli ",
By David Ignatius, WashingtonPost Opinion writer, November 10, 2016
https://www.WashingtonPost.COM/opinions/donald-trump-is-the-american-machiavelli/2016/11/10/8ebfae16-a794-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html
Trump can be a liar, which [ Machiavelli ]
believed was sometimes a necessary part of leadership.
He can be a bully, like some of the Italian potentates
Machiavelli lauded. He has boasted of a voracious
sexual appetite, like Machiavelli himself.
...
Machiavelli mocked the version of " political correctness " of his day.
He thought most advice manuals for princes were nonsense,
in calling for saintly goodness rather than strength.
Quoting " Be a killer, Be a king: The education of Donald Trump ",
By Yahoo's " Chief National Correspondent " Lisa Belkin, July 16, 2016
https://www.Yahoo.COM/news/killer-king-education-donald-trump-000000711.html
[ Trump's dad ] Fred used to tell his boys:
" You are a killer ... You are a king ...
You are a killer ... You are a king. "
As a result, [ " Lost Tycoon " author Harry Hurt III ] wrote,
Donald came to believe that:
" he cannot be one without the other.
As his father has pointed out over and over again,
most people are weaklings. Only the strong survive.
You have to be a killer if you want to be a king. "
....
[ Speaking of his alcoholic brother, Donald Trump said: ]
" I saw people really taking advantage of [ Freddy Jr. ],
and the lesson I learned was always to keep up my guard,
100 percent. "
....
[ Speaking of Trumps first foray into Manhatan, the Grand Hyatt ]:
[ Trump ] morphed the 26-story building into a 34-floor one,
not by building any extra floors,
but by renumbering the guest floors to start at 14.
And he expanded the ballroom to the " largest in the city "
by declaring it so, even when it was pointed out to him that
there were larger ones elsewhere in town.
....
" Donald is actually the most insecure man I’ve ever met, "
said Abe Wallach, who once served as head of
acquisitions for the Trump Organization, in an article
in which the New York Times tried, and failed,
to find many people who consider themselves Trump’s real friends.
" He has this constant need to fill a void inside.
He used to do it with deals and sex.
Now he does it with publicity. "
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MichaelGlasser D4C60249.8F9A5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-ba472aa68671d25938614a2872c38da5@individual.net
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg egd76qFtumeU1@mid.individual.net
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--9.25A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o7sq53$unf$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--9.41A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 2/4|101 T; 0 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 13 { 9:27 A, 2017 }:40^(-5) Vчдυ
OCD "lint" removal.
You ( MrDFS ) aske me:
> Ever validated your code with this tool?
> http://cppcheck.sourceforge.net
Absolutely not !
It's just OCD "lint" removal.
If you have OCD, and you like that kind of thing,
then fine... go with it, because you're nuts.
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MichaelGlasser D4C60249.8F9A5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Sandman│mr@sandmanΞnet sandman-ba472aa68671d25938614a2872c38da5@individual.net
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg egd76qFtumeU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--9.25A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/2|213 K; 8.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Feb 12 { 11:57 P, 2017 }:14 VчΩΤ
HTML isn't C++.
If your CSS/HTML works in Chrome and FireFox, you're good;
no need to "validate" anything; HTML isn't C++.
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. 4c47aa43-6b1e-40bb-af57-1e31e4490a16@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.28A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh c211c69b-dd45-4266-84b6-a2c1565be432@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--6.33P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|117 A; 18 Minutes, GoogleG, 62.210.245.138, Feb 12 { 6:12 P, 2017 }:36^(PST) Vчʎa
" quantum computers " are a bad joke, beyond worthless.
" quantum computers " are a bad joke, beyond worthless.
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rattles│rattles1944 o7qs0e$1pg3$1@gioia.aioe.org
Sargent_Bumblebee│creploch68 o7qteb$1r2o$3@gioia.aioe.org
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahzjv0fa.uga4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--5.53P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|52 K; 31 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Feb 12 { 4:56 P, 2017 }:37 Vчʁʝ
Windows 10 is still the best desktop.
owl wrote:
> " Android now boasts a global market share of 86.2 percent. "
>
> Android is Linux.
Windows 10 is still the best desktop.
Google ChromeBook is a kiosk, serving ads to your kids.
Google's servers are super specialized;
they don't use _any desktop file system or the like.
Amazon is another rising power; they're
poised to take the highest market cap, eventually.
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HerbertGlazier 4edc64b9-befa-432c-8ab6-8faa7070c8fa@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier b620952f-aacb-4fec-985c-ff868bba521d@googlegroups.com
MrAA 0104717b-2735-4d4a-8130-01f9bfeb789f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--3.13P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|95 T; 19 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 12 { 2:39 P, 2017 }:14^(PST) VчɪΤ
Rudy Vallee with Orchestra - As Time Goes By, Victor 1943.
Rudy Vallée with Orchestra - As Time Goes By, Victor 1943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9JYqudp3Z0
This is the later (1943) from two famous renditions
of "As Time Goes By" made by Rudy Vallée.
The earlier version was recorded by him and his Connecticut
Yankees in 1931, when that lovely slow-fox was just
one of many popular hits of the year.
However ten years later, the film
-love story "Casablanca" (1942)
directed by Michael Curtiz with Humphrey Bogart,
Ingrid Bergman, Paul Henreid, and "As Time Goes By"
played by Sam (Play it again, Sam...)
made the song a movie classic.
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. eg1slbFk30nU5@mid.individual.net
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.26P.Seattle.2017
MrAA cdb684e6-53a0-40ca-80c3-bf296004e6a6@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--5.12P.Seattle.2017
MrAA 273986f1-a632-478f-80a4-0ad7d6b5b618@googlegroups.com
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.47P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.59P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 2/4|94 T; 2 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 12 { 2:32 P, 2017 }:32^(PST) Vчɩʘ
Gresham Wifi.
Gresham Wifi:
http://www.openwifispots.com/citylist_free_wifi_wireless_hotspot-Gresham_OR.aspx
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hVac b20ae5b3-f4cc-4015-96b1-cc2fa41eb8a0@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.42A.Seattle.2017
MrAA ff6e2006-6b1c-402a-acf5-aef50a8a38af@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--1.47P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|85 T; 4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 12 { 1:37 P, 2017 }:30^(PST) Vчɠɚ
AntiSocial Behavior.
You ( A.A. ) replied ( to me ):
> > In today's modern society, marriage is bad for men, and getting worse,
> > and most everyone knows it; further, society is so rich, it makes us soft.
> > Bottom line: Younger, richer kids are gayer.
>
> Do you suppose the kids now living in the parks
> with unemployed parents will get tougher?
No because those are the lazy/insane ones that no one wants to be around.
Currently, we jail them when they take it ( AntiSocial Behavior ) too far.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.28A.Seattle.2017
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o7nenu02ede@news4.newsguy.com
Wally_W│ww84wa@aimΞcom djgu9c9salv1ra7t53bpjdttp2e40mtbbs@4ax.com
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o7nhpi01u9o@news3.newsguy.com
Wally_W│ww84wa@aimΞcom ft6v9ctr2unbujbkua6duvt2kokn5ri579@4ax.com
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o7o8gq02fhq@news6.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--9.18A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 5/5|123 D; 16.3 Hours, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 11 { 3:59 P, 2017 }:22 Vцϟა
Einstein was relatively poor; so carry on, you rich bastard.
We humans know enough about the moon's path to say that it's not random.
No so when it comes to quantum sized objects.
Note: "big" and "small" are _relative, _not _intrinsic.
We know less about a single die toss than we do about a million die tosses;
so, to us, the single toss _appears to be more random than the ensamble;
-- yet it's _not, not intrinsically it isn't.
You ( F. Russell, a.k.a. Michael Varney ) make more money
emulating ( as you do ) SciFi artists like Bert and Gene Roddenberry;
Einstein was relatively poor; so carry on, you rich bastard.
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Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny XYKdnQm2koZOmAXFnZ2dnUU7-TmdnZ2d@giganews.com
Slimer o7afb9$cbq$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny 0J-dnecS4rL2WQXFnZ2dnUU7-ffNnZ2d@giganews.com
Slimer o7aiku$pr5$1@dont-email.me
Marek_Novotny│marek_novotny B-Kdnb4hK9XbTAXFnZ2dnUU7-ffNnZ2d@giganews.com
MrChrisV aokh9ch8g1a71di959mb2baqgro2e214p2@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--9.54A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
-Dropped, 4.9 Days, F_Agent, High_Winds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Feb 6 { 11:51 A, 2017 }:20^(-6) VуɌα
60 fps videos need MicroSoft's DTV/DVD video decoder.
MrChrisV wrote:
> I have a DVD player and television for watching DVD's.
> I don't need to do it on my PC.
I've no need for a TV or DVD.
" Zoom Player Max " plays anything and everything.
It has _tons of settings, and I have to switch codecs sometimes;
so, yes, it takes skill -- more skill than JoeSixPack can muster.
60 fps videos need MicroSoft's DTV/DVD video decoder;
often enough, LAV works better for 30 fps ( the sound is better ).
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JohnGohde 9b3aeb8f-6cd1-4f8c-943d-ccbfdde8e25d@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde d8b6d11e-b643-4591-9908-5f2d2241d223@googlegroups.com
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg eg5ksjFe3pcU1@mid.individual.net
ChrisAhlstrom o7kdls$6q2$1@dont-email.me
William_Poaster│wp@dev_null t1s0nd-3bs.ln1@debian.machineone.org
MrDFS o7kk6o$utg$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--9.34A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 2/12|73 T; 1.1 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 10 { 6:54 A, 2017 }: 4^(-5) VхЛ4
People are sick of AntiTobacco, ProHeroin, AntiMale feminists.
People are sick of AntiTobacco, ProHeroin, AntiMale feminists.
News Flash: Groupies _want their heroes to grab their crotches.
That doesn't make Trump "rapey", you fucking feminist.
Also, people have reason to believe that Trump would
make better deals Re: People and Goods crossing our borders.
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HerbertGlazier e720851d-744e-41ab-80e3-bd56343bf484@googlegroups.com
HerbertGlazier a4e541ad-45b0-4b51-8948-e23da8008d3e@googlegroups.com
hVac b0e1b8b0-856b-4fd8-b98e-3c5264945b3e@googlegroups.com
BenJacoby 589e55e8$0$55553$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com
hVac da586282-8ffd-491d-8677-60eb1e527456@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--9.21A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 4/4|248 K; 5 Minutes, GoogleG, 24.218.23.30, Feb 11 { 9: 3 A, 2017 }:43^(PST) Vцʪψ
Science Fiction Artists, like Bert, are richer than real scientists.
Science Fiction Artists, like Bert, are richer than real scientists.
"Art" is what you get after you remove the science.
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AbhinavLal 4c47aa43-6b1e-40bb-af57-1e31e4490a16@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.28A.Seattle.2017
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o7nenu02ede@news4.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--9.02A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|1 D; 9 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Feb 11 { 8:39 A, 2017 }:26 Vцʦη
People _spin it; i.e. they lie, lie, lie.
You ( F_Russell ) replied ( to me ):
> > Randomness is always ( subjective ) ignorance, never intrinsic.
>
> Even ignoring the quantum realm, where ignorance is fundamental,
> deterministic processes are SemiUnPredictable.
Quantum "Mechanics" should be called Quantum "Statistics"
because it models mere correlations, not cause and effect.
Sadly, correlations can be wrong and/or misleading.
"Entanglement" works like this:
You buy a pair of shoes.
You ship one shoe to Becky and the other to Sam.
Should Becky find that she got the left one,
she'll _instantly know that Sam got the right one.
The pair was "entangled", naturally; no tachyons required.
Quantum Statistics sucks, but it's the best we can do.
Sadly, people _spin it; i.e. they lie, lie, lie.
"Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" _are intrinsically random;
nature, however, is not.
Now, if you think a cult leader and/or TV personality
is _smarter than Einstein... well... you're just tripping.
Reduce your meds.
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hVac b20ae5b3-f4cc-4015-96b1-cc2fa41eb8a0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.42A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 3/4|239 K; 17.8 Hours, GoogleG, Feb 10 { 1:42 P, 2017 }:44^(PST) Vхჟi
Younger, richer kids are gayer.
In today's modern society, marriage is bad for men, and getting worse,
and most everyone knows it; further, society is so rich, it makes us soft.
Bottom line: Younger, richer kids are gayer.
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AbhinavLal 4c47aa43-6b1e-40bb-af57-1e31e4490a16@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--8.28A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
╱ 1/1|4 A; 1 Days, GoogleG, 171.50.177.24, Feb 10 { 6:36 A, 2017 }:20^(PST) VхИK
We ( humanity ) _invent dimensions to simplify things.
You ( Abhinav Lal ) wrote:
> I was reading that if time is a dimension,
> it implies that the future, present, and past coexist.
The 4-Dimensional TimeScape ( past and future )
is static, immutable, eternal, without beginning or end;
However, that doesn't mean the past still exists -- it doesn't.
We ( humanity ) can't predict the weather over your head, _exactly,
12:00 hours from now, to the second/meter;
but we _know that it's due to cause and effect.
Randomness is always ( subjective ) ignorance, never intrinsic.
We ( humanity ) _invent dimensions to simplify things; to wit:
I chart my sleeping hours by day ( xAxis ),
hour ( yAxis ), and months ( tables );
-- time by time by time, 3 dimensions; to wit:
When I slept ( 118 rows, 235 columns ) ( ScreenShot ).
> What implications does the fact that time is not
> [ intrinsically ] a dimension have on physics?
We ( humanity ) create models of reality for our benefit;
our models are subjective, relative, _not intrinsic to nature.
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. acuvlzv.3@rooftop.invalid
. eg1oo3Fk30nU2@mid.individual.net
. cf85a25a-6821-4115-b1aa-b3b46d453fda@googlegroups.com
. eg1slbFk30nU5@mid.individual.net
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.26P.Seattle.2017
MrAA cdb684e6-53a0-40ca-80c3-bf296004e6a6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--5.12P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/12|87 T; 2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Feb 10 { 3: P, 2017 }:57^(PST) Vхწv
Do you use it at the library ?
Do you ( A.A. ) have a desktop or a notebook ?
Do you use it at the library ?
Your IP address ( 205.153.48.25 ) is a proxy server, why ?
You have no internet at home, I assume.
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owl│owl@rooftop_invalid c03a.hoa3@rooftop.invalid
SteveCarroll 9af25218-52b2-4238-9757-d4a03755e9ce@googlegroups.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid acuvlzv.3@rooftop.invalid
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg eg1oo3Fk30nU2@mid.individual.net
SteveCarroll cf85a25a-6821-4115-b1aa-b3b46d453fda@googlegroups.com
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg eg1slbFk30nU5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.26P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 3/3|207 K; 33 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Feb 8 { 4:49 P, 2017 }:47 Vф϶ɫ
My i7-5775c is 77 F, near room temperature.
vallor wrote:
> most systems do a thermal shutdown when the processor reaches 135C.
My i7-5775c is 77°F, near room temperature.
Most of the 3.5 Watt draw is for the IO;
a.k.a. the "UnCore" or "system agent".
The core itself draws less than a Watt.
I use the iGPU on the i7-5775c chip, no graphics card;
it's good enough to play 60 fps 4K videos, on my 4K monitor;
-- the ( Iris Pro 6200 Graphics ) iGPU draws 0.0 Watts.
128 MegaByte OnChip L4 cache, 1.8 GigaHz eDRAM ( Crystal Well ).
My 1.9 GigaHz DRAM cards are cool to the touch, cold actually;
they're drawing 2.6 Watts, 16 GigaBytes.
My CPU exceeds 4 GigaHz, when required.
Fanless PowerSupply, a TeraByte SSD, no spinners.
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MichaelGlasser D4BF9B4E.8EED5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid azvu3.auhg5@rooftop.invalid
MichaelGlasser D4BFA6B0.8EF06%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid aixv3.gavl41@rooftop.invalid
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--6.10P.Seattle.2017
MichaelGlasser D4BFFF3F.8F031%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--8.52A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
-Dropped, 10.4 Hours, MS_Entourage➤Mac, Individual.NET, Feb 7 { 9:48 P, 2017 }:31^(-7) VфwV
The left has ZeroTolerance for tobacco and other "wrong ideas".
You ( Michael Glasser ) replied ( to me ):
> > The left has ZeroTolerance for tobacco and other "wrong ideas".
>
> I did not realize you had been made spokesperson for "the left."
> When did you get that title?
In _your world, Leftist Mac owners can do no wrong.
In the _real world, the left is insanely anti-tobacco.
This guy smokes 12 cigars a day, sometimes more:
"109-Year-Old Veteran and His Secrets to Life", Feb 5, 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXyfCGDnuWs
This smoker is 146 years old:
"146-year-old Indonesian is world’s oldest?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhbY2e3zdiw
Jeanne Calment, a smoker, lived to 122:
"How To Live Past 100 - Secrets To Longevity From 5 Centenarians":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hxfr5Tg7jY
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vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg efvbq9F5h7eU1@mid.individual.net
F_Russell│fr@randomΞinfo o7ebou018n1@news4.newsguy.com
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg efvve7F6ok9U6@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--7.02A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/4|200 K; 7 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Feb 7 { 11:24 P, 2017 }:55 Vфɀt
My 5th gen ( Broadwell ) i7-5775c is drawing 3.5 Watts.
"Core Temp 1.0" says my 5th gen ( Broadwell ) i7-5775c
is drawing 3.5 Watts; it's slightly above room temperature, 77°F.
What more does one need to know ?
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MichaelGlasser D4BF6956.8EE59%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid ahjxvo003a.e@rooftop.invalid
MichaelGlasser D4BF9B4E.8EED5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid azvu3.auhg5@rooftop.invalid
MichaelGlasser D4BFA6B0.8EF06%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
owl│owl@rooftop_invalid aixv3.gavl41@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--6.10P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╳ 2/5|32 V; 45 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Feb 7 { 3:40 P, 2017 }:30 VуჲМ
The left has ZeroTolerance for tobacco and other "wrong ideas".
owl wrote:
> I want to see some dead rioters.
January 20th, 2017, at Kane Hall, Univ. of Washington, Seattle,
I witnessed the aftermath of a trump supporter shooting
a Social Justice Warrior PointBlank with a hollow point.
" A protester a shot a man he thought was a 'white supremacist'
during a protest outside a speech by Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos "
The supposed 'white supremacist' was a Bernie Sanders Supporter,
an anti-fascist with the International Workers of the World,
"resisting" the appearance of Milo Yiannopoulos.
The IWW has setup a crowd funding page to raise money for his medical costs.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/12708/protester-shot-outside-milo-event-shooter-thought-james-barrett
The left has ZeroTolerance for tobacco and other "wrong ideas".
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--11.03A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh d286fe7e-75b2-4053-9749-3be75ca52f4b@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--5.52P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 51aff446-587e-4e55-a488-eb4728bacf7e@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--5.29A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh a42c4b1c-e1d6-4b48-8eea-4fed5dac6a16@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--8.31A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken
╱ 1/1|116 A; 40 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.40.233, Feb 7 { 7:33 A, 2017 }:31^(PST) VуСμ
We're _sure that nothing is better than us.
Nature has programmed us, all of us,
to assert that we are the best thing ever.
We're robots, programmed by Nature to play "The Stay Alive Game";
including: Breathing, Pissing, Shitting, Breeding, etc.
We consume "fuel" ( eXergy, energy that can do work ),
same as the sun and everything else;
yet we're _sure that nothing is better than us.
People want to know where/when "life" can exist in the Cosmos.
By "life" they mean themselves and their progeny.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--9.31A.Seattle.2017
. o7aeuc$kip$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--11.03A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh d286fe7e-75b2-4053-9749-3be75ca52f4b@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--5.52P.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 51aff446-587e-4e55-a488-eb4728bacf7e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--5.29A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken
╱ 1/5|115 A; 10.2 Hours, GoogleG, 87.118.116.90, Feb 6 { 6:49 P, 2017 }:56^(PST) Vуʔɴ
We find ourselves with "enough" exergy, but it's _relative.
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) replied ( to me ):
> > "eXergy" ( energy that can do work ) built the concrete forest.
> > Net Net, eXergy ratchets down; i.e. entropy ratchets up;
> > i.e. clocks tick _forward, not backwards.
> >
> > Entropy increases, eternally, without beginning or end;
> > i.e. everything evaporates -- "eXergy" diminishes as entropy increases.
>
> Where does the eXergy comes from
> e.g. when [ nature builds ] complex human beings[...]
> With enough eXergy, [one] can turn back time then!
What's "complex" to us, as humans, is _relative;
to nature, nothing is "complex".
We find ourselves with "enough" exergy, but it's _relative;
eventually, "enough" won't be there and some new organism,
with a new definition of "enough", will take our place.
And so it goes, eternally, sans beginning or end.
Cause and Effect is always there, even when we can't see it;
so the future is just as fixed as the past, the timescape is static.
Intrinsically, Everything is Nothing, static.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--9.31A.Seattle.2017
. o7aeuc$kip$2@pcls7.std.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--11.03A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh d286fe7e-75b2-4053-9749-3be75ca52f4b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--5.52P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken
╱ 1/5|114 A; 31 Minutes, GoogleG, 93.115.95.201, Feb 6 { 5:11 P, 2017 }:35^(PST) Vуʃო
Clocks tick _forward, not backwards.
"eXergy" ( energy that can do work ) built the concrete forest.
As a result, more of us can shit in peace... yay ! !
Net Net, eXergy ratchets down; i.e. entropy ratchets up;
i.e. clocks tick _forward, not backwards.
Entropy increases, eternally, without beginning or end;
i.e. everything evaporates -- "eXergy" diminishes as entropy increases.
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vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg 58988bf8$0$34580$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
kensi│kkensington01@gmail_ o7a549$4gk$1@gioia.aioe.org
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg 5898a424$0$34580$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--9.31A.Seattle.2017
MichaelMoroney o7aeuc$kip$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--11.03A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken
╱ 1/1|50 D; 31 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Feb 6 { 10:23 A, 2017 }: 8 Vуȵт
Entropy increases, eternally, without beginning or end.
What happens to your precious "potential energy" after
black holes have all evaporated away, Moroney ?
Entropy ratchets up, so time ticks on, relentlessly.
Sudden Inflation, at the start of the Big Bang, is bullShit too;
it violates _all_ of the laws of phyics, each and every one.
Entropy increases, eternally, without beginning or end;
i.e. everything evaporates -- "eXergy" ( energy that can do work )
diminishes as entropy increases.
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vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg 58988bf8$0$34580$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
kensi│kkensington01@gmail_ o7a549$4gk$1@gioia.aioe.org
vallor│vallor@cultnixΞorg 5898a424$0$34580$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--9.31A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken
╳ 2/2|2 V; 19 Minutes, Pan, Astraweb.COM⁻ɅდϲϾ, Feb 6 { 8:28 A, 2017 }:20 VуiВ
Quasars are dying out because gravity itself is evaporating away.
Quasars are dying out because gravity itself is evaporating away.
Gravity is "eXergy" ( energy that can do work ).
Energy is neither gained nor lost ( 1st law of thermodynamics );
but, over time, less of it is eXergy ( 2nd law ).
eXergy/gravity is being consumed away, continuously,
without limit, forever and ever; hence the arrow of time.
As eXergy ratchets down, entropy ratchets up.
A uniform heat bath has energy/entropy, but no eXergy.
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hVac bcf3c79c-4a26-4b08-9d62-22d2b879e597@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--1.09P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 3/5|252 K; 6.5 Hours, GoogleG, Feb 5 { 5: 3 A, 2017 }:29^(PST) Vтʂκ
The Falcons have a good chance.
The Patriots are the obvious favorites,
but the Falcons have a good chance.
The Patriots have 26 year old Dion Lewis (#33 running back):
On January 14, 2017,
in the Patriots' 34–16 win over the Houston Texans,
Lewis became the first player in the Super Bowl era
to score touchdowns on a run, a reception,
and a kickoff return in the same postseason game.
The Falcons have two "young and hungry" running backs:
23 year old Tevin Coleman (#26).
24 year old Devonta Freeman (#24).
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. e7d0887d-3ea1-4b6c-b65b-817e60c6be4e@googlegroups.com
. 1fe18b15-8d8e-458b-bd57-7cbeab8caba4@googlegroups.com
Irvin_Starrett│etrrarn@arneir_ o711b7$p61$1@gioia.aioe.org
Ned_Latham│nedlatham@woden_ slrno98it9.n7b.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz
EdProchak 9ef26d6c-1f5f-4260-b903-457fe32b5d54@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--6.20A.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/1|87 T; 4 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44, Feb 3 { 6: 8 A, 2017 }:19^(PST) VсLʋ
The Second Law of Thermodynamics Is Unreasonable in a Structured World
Ned Latham wrote:
> > Think gravity. Entropy decreases as matter is drawn together.
Gravity is "eXergy" ( energy that can do work ).
Energy is neither gained nor lost ( 1st law of thermodynamics );
but, over time, less of it is eXergy ( 2nd law ).
eXergy/gravity is being consumed away, continuously,
without limit, forever and ever; hence the arrow of time.
As eXergy ratchets down, entropy ratchets up.
A uniform heat bath has energy/entropy, but no eXergy.
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JohnGohde d0c386f8-d096-4758-aabb-cd83410f6547@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 35ef4db2-4048-400d-ab9b-e4211e0ea0dd@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--9.30A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 5bee2434-2d12-496e-875d-14b2881735f3@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--4.04A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 9084c0ed-288f-42df-9776-fa5bab469462@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--7.17A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/4|112 A; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 109.163.234.7, Jan 31 { 5:56 A, 2017 }:19^(PST) VпJʋ
Do they expire if you don't use them ?
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) wrote:
> I use a Linux based Asterisk VoIP system
> routed to several real Tel.# SIP providers in several countries
> which cost me NOTHING...
I have a New York phone number that cost me nothing,
but it expires if I don't use it for 3 months.
How many phone numbers does zero dollars get you,
and do they expire if you don't use them ?
My Seattle number costs me 85 cents per month.
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JohnGohde e9899909-9d16-4ca4-aaaf-dd0f213b78b8@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 9cd39ebd-3e2c-40ff-81b1-cdd75c429986@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde d0c386f8-d096-4758-aabb-cd83410f6547@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 35ef4db2-4048-400d-ab9b-e4211e0ea0dd@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--9.30A.Seattle.2017
TakuyaSaitoh 5bee2434-2d12-496e-875d-14b2881735f3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--4.04A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/3|110 A; 10.3 Hours, GoogleG, 192.42.116.16, Jan 30 { 5: 6 P, 2017 }: 1^(PST) VоϹ1
I could lease a $200/per month iPhone, after a lobotomy.
Speaking of FireFox distros/clients,
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) wrote:
> > > With Windoze, the OS is the limit;
> > > With Linux, your brain is the limit.
I, then you, replied:
> > _You can't configure Windows 10. I can.
>
> in the server/embedded business Windoze just doesn't let yo do it....
> And yo cannot patch/rewrite the source code to fit the needs!
You switched topics from "FireFox distros/clients" to servers.
> You work for the banksters,
> I wonder why don't you use Mac, cannot afford it?
My ( Seattle2.VoIP.MS:5060 ) phone number costs me
85 cents per month; VoiceMail and SMS texts are emailed to me.
Sure, I could lease a $200/per month iPhone, after a lobotomy.
You think I'm a cute, young, bank teller air head,
wearing a suit, shaking your hand in the lobby ? !
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maureenshoopie@gmailΞcom 62000bb6-e84d-47cb-b9e9-154e065a05ee@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger fa8da162-4ffa-4bbe-b2bf-bb1a082b9121@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--3.04A.Seattle.2017
HughHuntzinger 6d327962-db7a-463d-9b8b-fd2f83e7b357@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--7.37A.Seattle.2017
HughHuntzinger a1131058-84bf-4097-b72c-07798203c541@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--4.33P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
+Trusted, 5 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Jan 30 { 11:21 A, 2017 }:41^(PST) VоΣφ
Alone, in the dark, is super relaxing.
You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) wrote:
> When it isn't your device, you usually don't have Admin rights.
>
> > Why don't you use a SurfacePro instead ?
>
> Use it ... for what?
Why not access Usenet via your own Win10 or Mac device,
instead of using devices you can't modify ?
I like custom, you like standard. Oh well....
> > Alexander Shutov's "Dark Reader", for Google Chrome,
> > is a _thousand times more innovative than Apple's "night mode".
>
> So? I had enough of trying to work in dark and/or with black
> backgrounds back in the 1970s, and it probably was responsible
> for some of the vision problems I have today.
Alone, in the dark, is super relaxing.
Hit the light, take a snooze, anytime.
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JohnGohde 0d6bb939-1d72-47e2-a5cb-78cd689e2209@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 3e4b1b1b-5f5d-4fe7-9a5c-5831a4f089a5@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde e9899909-9d16-4ca4-aaaf-dd0f213b78b8@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 9cd39ebd-3e2c-40ff-81b1-cdd75c429986@googlegroups.com
JohnGohde d0c386f8-d096-4758-aabb-cd83410f6547@googlegroups.com
TakuyaSaitoh 35ef4db2-4048-400d-ab9b-e4211e0ea0dd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--9.30A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 22/43|108 A; 6.7 Days, GoogleG, 193.111.141.114, Jan 23 { 5: 8 P, 2017 }:37^(PST) VкBʝ
_You can't configure Windows 10. I can.
You ( Takuya Saitoh ) wrote:
> It Windoze, the OS is the limits while in Linux, yo brain is the limits...
_You can't configure Windows 10. I can.
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PeterKöhlmann o6g3db$v5s$1@dont-email.me
William_Poaster│wp@dev_null 2f1tld-lr2.ln1@debian.machineone.org
maureenshoopie@gmailΞcom 62000bb6-e84d-47cb-b9e9-154e065a05ee@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger fa8da162-4ffa-4bbe-b2bf-bb1a082b9121@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--3.04A.Seattle.2017
HughHuntzinger 6d327962-db7a-463d-9b8b-fd2f83e7b357@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--7.37A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
╱ 1/3|11 T; 2 Hours, GoogleG, 71.251.44.248, Jan 30 { 3:25 A, 2017 }:24^(PST) Vоɲɔ
Google Chrome's "Dark Reader" is a _thousand times more innovative.
When you own the fucking device, you can customize it, no ?
Why don't you ( Hugh Huntzinger ) use a SurfacePro instead ?
You wrote:
> I don't really care too much either way about the Apple 'night mode' ...
Alexander Shutov's "Dark Reader", for Google Chrome,
is a _thousand times more innovative than Apple's "night mode".
Apple is worth $ 636 billion, down from $ 774 billion, April 2015.
Google is worth $ 553 billion today, but it's heading up, way up.
Microsoft is worth $ 519 billion today because its profit and revenue
has beat Wall Street’s expectations in 7 of the last 8 quarters.
Windows 10 has a customizable "Light Text on Black" Theme; to wit:
Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT
Mozilla FireFox conforms to the Theme, Chrome doesn't.
FireFox's "userContent.CSS" is MegaPowerful; to wit:
Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
Whenever I see something I don't like, wham! it's gone, thanks to CSS.
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Fabian d81ea8a1-0f88-4bff-a36e-5276fa2778d5@googlegroups.com
PeterKöhlmann o6g3db$v5s$1@dont-email.me
William_Poaster│wp@dev_null 2f1tld-lr2.ln1@debian.machineone.org
maureenshoopie@gmailΞcom 62000bb6-e84d-47cb-b9e9-154e065a05ee@googlegroups.com
HughHuntzinger fa8da162-4ffa-4bbe-b2bf-bb1a082b9121@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--3.04A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/3|10 T; 1.8 Days, GoogleG, 71.251.44.248, Jan 28 { 6: 4 A, 2017 }:32^(PST) VнKО
The kiosk version of the internet: WebSites.
Hugh Huntzinger wrote:
> GoogleGroups is clearly superior for seamlessly accessing from multiple diverse devices.
> It really is quite slick to be able to follow a thread from ones phone, then desktop,
> then tablet, then a different desktop, back to the tablet, then different phone, etc, etc...
"self-professed programming gurus" wouldn't do that;
i.e. they wouldn't use the kiosk version of the internet: WebSites.
_All my calls require an internet connection ( Seattle2.VoIP.MS:5060 ).
If my Win10 desktop wasn't an option, for some _sad reason,
then I'd use a portable version of it, not a "smart" phone/WebPage.
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SteveCarroll 0884275f-da08-44c6-a26e-a79f38324283@googlegroups.com
Tattoo_Vampire│sitting@this_ q0ln5qmvcwy3$.dlg@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org
SteveCarroll 7fb0210d-a85f-4439-b6a4-8c7a350a1d91@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--10.22A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll c69c3993-4ea2-4d9b-8750-373355f28cb3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--1.24P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|241 D; 11 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Jan 29 { :33 P, 2017 }:42^(PST) Vнდχ
I'm answering your questions, not begging for your attention.
You ( Steve Carroll ) told me:
> your trolling is a refreshing change from Snit's... I'll give you that.
I'm answering your questions, over and over again,
not begging for your attention.
Posting code publically, as I do, helps me concentrate
in a way that "just talking to myself" can't.
Occationally, when searching some technical issue,
Google directs me to my own posts.
For me, it's a blast from the past.
For others... who knows ?
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--4.34A.Seattle.2017
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--0.44P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/1|277 D; 31 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 29 { 11:38 A, 2017 }:53 Vнъʭ
When will I wake up, most likely ?
You ( Owl ) replied:
> > Why would I manually run _your "blah" and "offon"
> > when _my "X.EXE" does it all, automatically ? to wit:
>
> It's not about what program you run to process the data. It's about
> keeping the data in a flexible and compact form. The form you use for
> input data requires at least five times as much space as would simply
> keeping a record of timestamps, and also requires that any other program
> that might want to make use of your data has to go through unnecessary
> contortions.
For me, and _only me, "SleepLog.TXT" is
the _ideal launching point for "SleepPat.HTM".
I doesn't have to work for anyone else; and it doesn't.
I'm running a fast/cool i7-5775c and a TeraByte SSD;
if space were a concern ( it's not ), I'd write:
Vмпν Vмυϗ Vмμч VмΡɼ VмΟY VмʪБ Vмʧɛ VмʂV Vмɧи VмȹΥ
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
>
> It's cleaner, but you lose information for days when you
> might have slept fewer than 7 hours.
6.5 hours is rounded up to 7.
Adding detail obscures the all important "trend":
When will I wake up, most likely ?
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 0884275f-da08-44c6-a26e-a79f38324283@googlegroups.com
Tattoo_Vampire│sitting@this_ q0ln5qmvcwy3$.dlg@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org
SteveCarroll 7fb0210d-a85f-4439-b6a4-8c7a350a1d91@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--10.22A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|245 D; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Jan 29 { 8:36 A, 2017 }: 9^(PST) VнЬ9
I knew _exactly what everyone's response would be, all of it.
You ( Steve Carroll ) wrote:
> > Because Relf is one of the oldest loons on Usenet?
>
> Well, he's obviously not interested in
> providing a realistic answer to my question.
It helps me ( not you ) so I do it.
Why would I lie about it ?
I never asked for "input from others" ( as you put it ).
I knew _exactly what everyone's response would be, all of it.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--10.39P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
deplorable_owl│owl@rooftop_ akb003apo.llj7@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--4.34A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
-Dropped, 16.1 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 28 { :13 P, 2017 }: 3 Vнɒȵ
"SleepPat.HTM" is _much cleaner now.
Why would I manually run _your "blah" and "offon"
when _my "X.EXE" does it all, automatically ? to wit:
24.4 hour Day, 81% offline:
8.5 Jan 27 { 10:33 P, 2017 }:32 Vмпν
.9 Jan 27 { 2: 3 P, 2017 }:51 Vмυϗ
2.0 Jan 27 { 1:11 P, 2017 }:13 Vмμч
.2 Jan 27 { 11:14 A, 2017 }: 4 VмΡɼ
1.9 Jan 27 { 11: A, 2017 }:34 VмΟY
.3 Jan 27 { 9: 4 A, 2017 }:19 VмʪБ
3.7 Jan 27 { 8:43 A, 2017 }:31 Vмʧɛ
2.6 Jan 27 { 5: A, 2017 }:31 VмʂV
3.6 Jan 27 { 2:22 A, 2017 }:58 Vмɧи
.6 Jan 26 { 10:45 P, 2017 }:15 VмȹΥ
"SleepPat.HTM" is _much cleaner now,
as it _only shows "When I slept" and "%OffLine"; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
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. Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
. aob003g.ub0h@rooftop.invalid
. Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
. 0884275f-da08-44c6-a26e-a79f38324283@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--8.58A.Seattle.2017
MrAA 511cd38a-3330-4aab-b638-1b39ad28a744@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--2.25P.Seattle.2017
Sci.Physics
╱ 1/3|70 T; 37 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Jan 28 { 1:45 P, 2017 }:29^(PST) Vнɡκ
If you don't like it, try FaceBook or Reddit.
You ( MrAA ) asked:
> Do you think folks would mind if I posted some machine code from one of my old core dumps?
Sure, I don't think hVac will ban you for that.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 0884275f-da08-44c6-a26e-a79f38324283@googlegroups.com
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--8.58A.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll effa5b16-c6c4-4982-b2b4-fa050eaf4dae@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--10.27A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|250 D; 44 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Jan 28 { 9:36 A, 2017 }:29^(PST) VнuT
I review the code that I post, adding whitespace and comments.
You ( SteveCarroll ) replied ( to me ):
> I still don't get it, how does posting code publicly help you focus?
I review the code that I post, adding whitespace and comments;
this way, I weed out problems, improve it, etc.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--10.39P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
SteveCarroll 0884275f-da08-44c6-a26e-a79f38324283@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--8.58A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/1|247 D; 10 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.51.42.166, Jan 28 { 8:25 A, 2017 }:42^(PST) Vнiɦ
If you don't like it, try FaceBook or Reddit.
You ( SteveCarroll ) replied ( to me ):
> > I post lots of code here,
> > none of it is for you, all of it is for me.
>
> Again (I asked you this long ago), so why post it publicly?
Again, it helps me focus.
Usenet is the wild, wild west, anything goes.
If you don't like it, try FaceBook or Reddit.
99% of what I write is ignored, "meh".
99% if the rest is _explicitly disparaged.
1% of 1% is a (scary) "like +1".
Now, I graph "when I'm likely to fall asleep":
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
case ChPlot0: case ChPlot1: { int Started = 0 ; __LnP P ; float X ;
ScrCol++, Direct2D->CreatePathGeometry( &Path ), Path->Open( &pSink ),
pSink->SetFillMode( D2D1_FILL_MODE_WINDING );
X = .5*CharW, P = &Plot( 2 + Ch - ChPlot0, 0 ) - 1 ;
LoopCol( PlotCols )
X += CharW, *++P > 0 && (
!Started ?
( pSink->BeginFigure( PlotPnt, D2D1_FIGURE_BEGIN_FILLED ), Started = 1 )
: ( pSink->AddLine( PlotPnt ), 1 ) );
pSink->EndFigure( D2D1_FIGURE_END_OPEN ), pSink->Close(), Trash( pSink ),
dxWin->SetTarget( WinSur ), dxWin->DrawGeometry( Path, Green99, 5 ),
Trash( Path ); } goto Next_Ch ;
const int PlotRows = 48, PlotCols = 228 ; __LnP _Plot ;
rv = 4*PlotCols + 4, _Plot = (__LnP)MallocTmp( rv ), memset( _Plot, 0, rv );
#define Plot( Table, Col ) _Plot[ ( Table )*PlotCols + Col ]
#define PlotPnt Pnt( X, ( ScrRow - *P - 1 )*CharH )
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.26P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--10.39P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
deplorable_owl│owl@rooftop_ aob003g.ub0h@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--10.52P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|279 D; 6 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 27 { 4:38 P, 2017 }:10 Vмϴʂ
None of it is for you, all of it is for me.
I post lots of code here,
none of it is for you, all of it is for me.
You are a commandline jocky, I am not.
Everything I write is mega custom, for me.
You like:
1483228800
1483228801
1483228802
1483228803
1483228804
1483315195
1483315196
1483315197
1483315198
1483315199
I prefer:
24.4 hour Day, 81% offline:
8.5 Jan 27 { 10:33 P, 2017 }:32 Vмпν
.9 Jan 27 { 2: 3 P, 2017 }:51 Vмυϗ
2.0 Jan 27 { 1:11 P, 2017 }:13 Vмμч
.2 Jan 27 { 11:14 A, 2017 }: 4 VмΡɼ
1.9 Jan 27 { 11: A, 2017 }:34 VмΟY
.3 Jan 27 { 9: 4 A, 2017 }:19 VмʪБ
3.7 Jan 27 { 8:43 A, 2017 }:31 Vмʧɛ
2.6 Jan 27 { 5: A, 2017 }:31 VмʂV
3.6 Jan 27 { 2:22 A, 2017 }:58 Vмɧи
.6 Jan 26 { 10:45 P, 2017 }:15 VмȹΥ
Because, then, I know at glance how long I've been offline.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.26P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--10.39P.Seattle.2017
deplorable_owl│owl@rooftop_ ab00ga.vh4r@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.48P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|268 D; 22 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 27 { 1:15 P, 2017 }:33 Vмνξ
What's right with US-ASCII and Base10 ? not much.
You ( Owl ) replied ( to me ):
> > > Wouldn't output similar to this be easier to read?
> > > http://i.imgur.com/3Sp5zo8.png
> >
> > That's basically how it is now,
>
> What you have now is nearly impossible to read.
I can read it, so it's fine.
> > only I show the length of the runs;
> > e.g. 8 hours, starting at 1am and then wrapping at 3am to the next day.
> > 7.5 months per table, top and bottom, for a total of 15 months.
>
> Why 26 hour days? Why 15 months?
No, each day is 24 hours, starting at 3am.
15 months is more than a year;
so I can compare this winter vs last winter.
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepLog.TXT
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
>
> Why is the input in UTF-16,
Because that's how it is in memory ( RAM );
I didn't feel like converting it to UTF-8.
> and why is the timestamp converted to base 360?
Base360 uses less screenspace, fewer columns.
> What's wrong with ascii text and base 10?
What's right with US-ASCII and Base10 ? not much.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--1.01P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.26P.Seattle.2017
deplorable_owl│owl@rooftop_ abja993.agh@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--10.39P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|267 D; 2.7 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 26 { 7:33 P, 2017 }:27 VмZθ
SleepLog.TXT _is a series of time stamps.
You ( Owl ) replied ( to me ):
> Wouldn't output similar to this be easier to read?
> http://i.imgur.com/3Sp5zo8.png
That's basically how it is now, only I show the length of the runs;
e.g. 8 hours, starting at 1am and then wrapping at 3am to the next day.
7.5 months per table, top and bottom, for a total of 15 months.
> And wouldn't having the input data just be a text file of timestamps
> allow for more flexibility in processing?
SleepLog.TXT _is a series of time stamps,
including i64 seconds since the start of 1970, in Base360.
The LeftMost column is "hours offline";
so you can tell at a glance what's what.
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepLog.TXT
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.25--11.14P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 26/35|218 T; 6.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 25 { 4: 3 P, 2017 }:41^(-5) Vлɸφ
Groupies, FanGirls, want more than a pussy grab.
Don't shoot the messenger ( Trump );
Groupies, FanGirls, want more than a pussy grab.
Only a DieHard feminist ( like DFS ) would think he's "rapey".
Feminists are pathetic.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.09P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o690it$22p$1@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.25--0.44A.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o6ad8n$q9c$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.25--7.01A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/10|192 T; 15 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 25 { 6:40 A, 2017 }: 4^(-5) VлQϲ
Look at the yAxis, MrDFS. Two Rows = 1 hour.
Look at the yAxis, MrDFS. Two Rows = 1 hour.
It can be three, sometimes, due to rounding; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
> > The yellow box ( in SleepPat.PNG ) is selected text.
> > Selected text is encased in yellow "boxes" using
> > Direct2D->CreatePathGeometry(), dxWin->DrawGeometry(), etc.
> >
> > Selected or not, the background color is _always black, always.
> >
> > Roughly, The code is:
>
> roughly? Why not exactly?
"X.CPP" in "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.XIP"
has the _whole picture; the code runs fine.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--1.01P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.09P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o690it$22p$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.25--0.44A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╳ 1/8|189 T; 6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 24 { 5:57 P, 2017 }:13^(-5) VкБΣ
"SleepPat.HTM" is dense, rich and complex, like my source code.
You ( MrDFS ) replied ( to me ):
> > Now the text version also shows the percent OffLine;
> > it's by the date, on the xAxis; to wit:
> >
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
>
> And now it's an indecipherable mess.
"SleepPat.HTM" is dense, rich and complex, like my source code.
The yellow box ( in SleepPat.PNG ) is selected text.
Selected text is encased in yellow "boxes" using
Direct2D->CreatePathGeometry(), dxWin->DrawGeometry(), etc.
Selected or not, the background color is _always black, always.
Roughly, The code is:
if ( InText && Selctd && !DrewSel
&& ( iTop = RowsTB + 1 - TopScrLine, iLnA = ScrRow - iTop,
iLnA >= sB.iLnA && iLnA <= sE.iLnA ) ) {
int y, iLnA1, iLnA2, SelRows ; DrewSel = 1 ;
SelRows = sE.iLnA - sB.iLnA, iLnA1 = ER( iLnA, sB.iLnA );
iLnA2 = er( sB.iLnA + SelRows, sE.iLnA );
SelRows = iLnA2 - iLnA1 + 1, y = ( iLnA1 + iTop )*iCharH ;
if ( sB.Alt )
// AltShift selections are encased in a yellow box:
Left = SeLR[0].Left, Right = SeLR[0].Right,
DrawEdge( WinSur, Left, y, ( Right - Left + 1 ), SelRows*iCharH, Yellw99 );
else {
// Encase selected _lines ( lines may be staggered ):
Left = iLnA1 == sB.iLnA ? sB.xStart : 0 ;
Right = iLnA2 == sE.iLnA ? sE.xEnd : 999 ;
Direct2D->CreatePathGeometry( &Path ), Path->Open( &pSink );
pSink->SetFillMode( D2D1_FILL_MODE_WINDING );
pSink->BeginFigure( Pnt( Left, y ), D2D1_FIGURE_BEGIN_FILLED );
y += iCharH, pSink->AddLine( Pnt( Left, y ) );
if ( SelRows > 1 )
pSink->AddLine( Pnt( 0, y ) ),
y += ( SelRows - 1 )*iCharH, pSink->AddLine( Pnt( 0, y ) );
pSink->AddLine( Pnt( Right, y ) ), y -= iCharH ;
pSink->AddLine( Pnt( Right, y ) );
if ( SelRows > 1 )
pSink->AddLine( Pnt( WinW, y ) ),
y -= ( SelRows - 1 )*iCharH, pSink->AddLine( Pnt( WinW, y ) );
pSink->EndFigure( D2D1_FIGURE_END_CLOSED ), pSink->Close();
Trash( pSink ), dxWin->SetTarget( WinSur );
dxWin->DrawGeometry( Path, Yellw99, 3 ), Trash( Path ); } }
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--7.30P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--1.01P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.26P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╳ 1/1|270 D; 35 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 24 { 3:36 P, 2017 }:56 VкϜu
"Auto Sleep" is disabled, it can't happen.
You ( Owl ) replied ( to me ):
> > I turn the monitor off whenever I'm not using it;
> > "SleepPat.HTM" tracks when it's off.
> >
> > A lot of it is just being OffLine, not sleeping;
> > still, the patterns let me know when I'm likely to sleep.
>
> "when I'm likely to sleep." So you're using your monitor's
> sleep pattern to estimate your own sleep pattern? Is there
> really a correlation between the two?
I turn it off _manually only;
"Auto Sleep" is disabled, it can't happen.
When I see long periods OffLine, last few days,
I know that that's when I'm likely to sleep. It varies a lot.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--8.33P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o60hvf$i4a$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--7.30P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--1.01P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o68qd7$j1i$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.17P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/6|186 T; 23 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 24 { 4:12 P, 2017 }:21^(-5) VкϰL
Now the percent OffLine number follows the date.
You ( MrDFS ) asked me:
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
>
> What does 'H' represent?
Where, buy the date ? That's gone now.
Now the percent OffLine number follows the date.
You might have to hit F5-Refresh to see it.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--8.33P.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--7.30P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--1.01P.Seattle.2017
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. Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--4.09P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|265 D; 40 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 24 { 1:26 P, 2017 }:10 Vкοʂ
Now the text version also shows the percent OffLine.
Now the text version also shows the percent OffLine;
it's by the date, on the xAxis; to wit:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--8.33P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o60hvf$i4a$2@dont-email.me
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--7.30P.Seattle.2017
JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--1.01P.Seattle.2017
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.12P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 1/1|265 D; 40 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Jan 24 { 1:26 P, 2017 }:10 Vкοʂ
A lot of it is just being OffLine, not sleeping.
You ( Owl ) replied ( to me ):
> > Now it reports anything over a half hour;
> > and, now, the graphical version ( not text )
> > shows the percentage of the day spent OffLine:
> >
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
>
> Is this the monitor sleeping, or you?
I turn the monitor off whenever I'm not using it;
"SleepPat.HTM" tracks when it's off.
A lot of it is just being OffLine, not sleeping;
still, the patterns let me know when I'm likely to sleep.
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On SleepPat.HTM's yAxis: Two rows = one hour.
I wrote:
> SleepPat.HTM doesn't report anything less than 4 hours.
Now it reports anything over a half hour;
and, now, the graphical version ( not text )
shows the percentage of the day spent OffLine:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
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Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
╱ 4/15|15 T; 1 Months, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Dec 22 { 1:30 P, 2016 }:10^(PST) VФπA
Recent Investors chose Google over Apple/Microsoft.
Recent Investors chose Google over Apple/Microsoft.
Top 5 Market capitalizations ( in billions ).
Start of 2016: Start of 2017:
598 Apple 618 Apple San Fran
450 Microsoft 532 Google San Fran
325 Exxon Mobil 483 Microsoft Seattle
323 Amazon 402 Berkshire Hathaway
314 General Electric 356 Amazon Seattle
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╱ 2/15|15 T; 1 Months, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Dec 22 { 6:28 A, 2016 }:59^(PST) VФʐй
Feminists are pathetic.
Silver Slimer wrote:
> > [Trump] made a joke about how women treat celebrities.
Exactly, only a DieHard feminist would think he's "rapey".
Feminists are pathetic.
Hugh Huntzinger replied:
> It went well beyond "locker room talk". Plus it has been
> made quite clear that the whole Planned Parenthood bit that
> he's pandered to has been an ruse to attack female promiscuity
> as something that's contrary to male dominance.
Trump will put birth control pills in dollar stores, mark my words.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--2.28P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
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They're becoming thieving junkies now, not just beggers.
Hugh Huntzinger wrote:
> those 'Country Mice' from South Carolina are on the dole
> to the tune of an 8:1 ratio.
They're becoming thieving junkies now, not just beggers.
That, my dear fellows, is why Trump rules, not Hillary.
Fucking elites, like Hillary, can't see the problem; Trump does.
Hillary wants you to put on a dress and pee in the woman's bathroom.
ObamaCare takes money from the poor and gives it to insurance companies.
Now, the poor fund the elites' hospital bills.
The poor noticed the pay cut, and the lack of return.
Trump likes to build crap; so that might help;
otherwise, he has no answers -- but he _sees the problem.
The _Least_Worst option might be _free housing and Social Security _checks.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--1.58P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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Effectively, MicroSoft is trying to Kill_Off email.
MrDFS wrote:
> MS is a superior organization that dominates their industry like no
> other company. They provide superior products which have allowed you to
> make a living for many years - probably your entire "career".
MicroSoft's CEO Satya Nadella hates Windows.
He's all "mobile-first, cloud-first"; yet fails at it, badly.
MicroSoft can't even send and receive emails properly.
HotMail rejects my emails because it doesn't like
the (shared) IP address of my SMTP server.
I am not my IP address, you _fucking spastics.
gMail has no such problems.
Outlook sends out "RichText" emails, instead of HTML;
turn that off, and it sends out its own, borked version of HTML.
Effectively, MicroSoft is trying to Kill_Off email.
gMail has no such problems.
Don't believe me ? Bing it. ha ha
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. Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--11.09A.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--11.40A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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It looks like witchcraft, but it ain't.
I just read:
" What is the most absurd code you've ever seen? "
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-absurd-code-youve-ever-seen
The author, Tim Boudreau, is _clueless.
fn_gs_as_int() can't be judged without knowing
what fn_gs_as_str() and fn_str_to_int() are doing.
Also, I understand the code here:
" Reverse Engineering the Twelve Days of Christmas "
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/tball/papers/xmasgift/
It looks like witchcraft, but it ain't.
The programer only shows us his decoder,
and the encoded text (embeded), not his encoder.
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MrDFS o5qm9u$nbg$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--11.09A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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DFS can submit my code to Quora.
Yes, you (DFS) can submit my code to Quora;
use my name please, as I'm proud of it.
> https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-absurd-code-youve-ever-seen
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.57A.Seattle.2017
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--8.33P.Seattle.2017
MrDFS o60hvf$i4a$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--7.30P.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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On SleepPat.HTM's yAxis: Two rows = one hour.
You ( DFS ) wrote:
> Does your X.EXE program not log offline periods < 4 hours?
SleepLog.TXT tracks _all off/on line durations,
even when they're just seconds long.
SleepPat.HTM doesn't report anything less than 4 hours.
On SleepPat.HTM's yAxis: Two rows = one hour.
The start and end times of a run can be off, due to rounding.
> Next I'm working on code to read your sleep log and output a pattern
> similar to yours, but I'm putting time on the x-axis and date on the y-axis.
With my 4k monitor, 7.5 months fits on one page, no scrolling;
it's very panoramic. Yet, at the same time, Today's data is quite clear.
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JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.57A.Seattle.2017
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. Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--8.20P.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--4.44A.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
╱ 1/168|176 T; 13 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 19 { 7:12 P, 2017 }:51^(-5) Vзʘp
People woke me up; so I slept 4 hours today, twice, for a total of 8.
I wrote:
> Given this ( tracking when my monitor was off ):
> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepLog.TXT
> Produce this:
> A table showing every HalfHour of the day OffLine, last 15 months:
> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
>
> Search for the line that ends with "offline:";
> then plot the 8.5 ( hours ) from the line below.
People woke me up; so I slept 4 hours today, twice, for a total of 8.
From 1:30pm to 5:30pm, 4 hours; and 11pm to 3am, another 4 hours.
Some of today's data: ＜＜
9.3 hours awake, 65% offline.
4.0 Jan 21 { 2:57 A, 2017 }:41 Vиɭφ
1.0 Jan 20 { 10:57 P, 2017 }:44 VиȻω ＞＞
The offline hours were 3 seconds short of a full 4 hours;
so it didn't get the "23.2 hour Day, 38% offline:" line.
So I decided to ignore the "23.2 hour Day, 38% offline:" lines;
instead, I plot _any line showing 4+ hours offline; to wit:
// B points to a "SleepLog.TXT" line.
// B[-1], a short, is the leading spaces.
// AtoF() is _wtof(). fDur, a float, is the hours offline.
B && *B && B[-1] <= 1 && B[5] == 32 && B[6] == 32
&& ( fDur = AtoF( B ), fDur >= 4 ) )
The line after ( B = *++PP ) is the start of the run.
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JeffRelf Je
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If we were MultiBillionairs, we could pay them to lay John Gohde.
Keeping my room dark doesn't harm anyone, I'm fine.
John Gohde lifts weights because it feeds his "Japanese girls" fantasy.
If we were MultiBillionairs, we could pay them to lay him.
My SwissGerman blue eyes can't handle bright lights;
likely, my ancestors lived in cloudy regions, or dark caves.
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My blue eyes are extra, extra sensitive to light.
You ( Michael Glasser ) replied ( to me ):
> > My Dell UP2414Q "disconnects" when I turn it off,
> > causing windows to get moved and resized... very, _very bad !
>
> I have a hot corner for putting displays to sleep.
> No random mouse movement wakes it up (why would it)?
Sadly ( _very sadly ) Microsoft dropped the ball.
Random mouse movement does _not wake the PC;
yet, without my special code, it _always wakes the monitor.
In a light room, I might not care; but my room is kept dark.
My blue eyes are extra, extra sensitive to light;
it's genetic, from my Swiss ancestors, I think.
My editor: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG
> Also can script, if I want, to have the monitor be woken up
> by script with built in "caffeinate" command.
I hit a HotKey ( tied to mouse button ); same key for on or off.
My mouse buttons: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
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I turn my monitor off/on _many times a day.
You ( Michael Glasser ) replied ( to me ):
> > I turn my monitor "off" via a HotKey ( assigned to a mouse button );
> > and it doesn't wake UnlessAndUntil I hit it again.
>
> [your] monitor likely has a hardware power button.
I turn my monitor off/on _many times a day.
My Acer B243PWL monitor gives me a 15 second "Acer, Energy Star"
commercial when I turn it on... very _slow, bright, and annoying !
My Dell UP2414Q "disconnects" when I turn it off,
causing windows to get moved and resized... very, _very bad !
God knows what my Philips BDM4037UW ( comming Wednesday )
might do but, thanks to my code, I don't have to worry about it.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--10.16am.Seattle.2017
Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
I turn my monitor "Off/On" via a HotKey ( assigned to a mouse button ).
Noramlly, there's no way to turn a monitor "off" ( asleep )
without some random mouse movement waking it.
I turn my monitor "off" via a HotKey ( assigned to a mouse button );
and it doesn't wake UnlessAndUntil I hit it again.
Source code found at: 