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              maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_  3ZF6F.14853$oq9.4044@fx47.iad
            MsNadegda  qjfiir$jd6$14@dont-email.me
          maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_  9fI6F.146774$f36.105972@fx20.iad
        MsNadegda  qjflnm$jd6$21@dont-email.me
      Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack  acJ6F.25349$oq9.18017@fx47.iad
    Kensi  qjfsi7$pbb$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 3  m172 Mad; 8.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 19 {  9:22pm, 2019 }:29^(2)  XζʣЛ
      "Everyone sacrifices themselves for me." -- Kensi

Kensi wrote:
> Land redistribution. Monopoly nationalization. Reparations. And more ...

First of all, it's extremely arrogant to suppose that that, somehow,
you ( of all people ) have the solution... as if there were some
wonderful option out there that no one but _ You _ has ever thought of.

Amazingly, your solution is: everyone sacrifices themselves for me.

"Killing the rich" has not made Venezuela and Cuba richer;
likewise, it didn't help Nazi Germany.

You're clueless, you've no idea how crappy Jeff Bezos' job is,
babysitting clueless jerks, such as yourself.

And what's his reward ?! 
he doesn't get extra food, nor can he bed more women, 
and insane people, like you, would take his money and leave him dead.
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              TheSnitBot  gs0ib5F1odvU3@mid.individual.net
            SteveCarroll  qjf5ii$dum$2@dont-email.me
          maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_  16F6F.1283$Q63.627@fx25.iad
        MsNadegda  qjfhuv$jd6$13@dont-email.me
      maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_  ObI6F.16699$la1.2399@fx33.iad
    MsNadegda  qjflgc$jd6$19@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.24am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 4  m216 Mad; 10.3 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 19 {  7:22pm, 2019 }: 5  Xζʏϳ
      Ms Nadegda has no clue what the (horrid) options are.

You (Nadegda) don't have the first clue about 
the capitalism that you're trying to destroy.

Only in your feeble, hallucinating mind does "kill the rich" work.

Jeff Bezos doesn't get to eat two breakfastes, two lunches,
two dinners, and bed two wives, just because he's "rich";
being responsible for a million "employees" (jerks) isn't fun.

You have no clue what the (horrid) options are.
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              SteveCarroll  qjbnu2$le$1@dont-email.me
            MsNadegda  qjcoko$jd6$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qjetfh$jd6$8@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37c50e7c329d8c02914@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qjg1j6$jd6$24@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--5.59am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 7  m216 Mad; 6.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 19 { 10:48pm, 2019 }:23  XζΓN
      Killing the rich won't help the poor.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Checky ):
> > We were born into a system created by generations before us...
> > just like you were.  Future generations will be bitching about
> > how  YOU  fucked things up.
> 
> Impossible. I won't  fuck anything up.

If your arrogance is anything to go by,
I'd say that you've already " fucked things up ".

The _ only _ reason you think the world would be better
if we did what you ( and AOC ) said is because 
you're intentionally clueless -- you can't face harsh reality.

Killing the rich won't help the poor.
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              .  qj9n9m$tlq$9@dont-email.me
            .  qjbnu2$le$1@dont-email.me
          .  qjcoko$jd6$1@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  grvrr5Fre09U1@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  qjegb4$2s8$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.19--9.15am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m12 Shifty; 19 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 19 {  8:47am, 2019 }:48  Xζbც
      Snit, Nadegda and Kensi live in a magical-mystical dream world.

Snit, Nadegda and Kensi live in a magical-mystical dream world
where everything would be perfect, if we just did what they said.

Apparently, are there much better options, in this dream world,
so we don't have to choose between really-really-bad and really-bad.

They don't care about those who can't make it to 
the 15 $/hour wage rung on the ladder;
such people are simply too poor-weak to care about.
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            MsNadegda  qj9eiq$tlq$5@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37c1f0a0cca8b608f1@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qj9n9m$tlq$9@dont-email.me
      SteveCarroll  qjbnu2$le$1@dont-email.me
    MsNadegda  qjcoko$jd6$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 3  m223 Mad; 4.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 18 {  4:57pm, 2019 }:12  XεϟΡ
      I see the mess the higher minimum-wage has created.

Ms Nadegda wrote:
> Raise. The minimum. Wage.

Right, because if you're already on the ladder,
it doesn't matter how high the lowest rung is.

You'd fuck those at the very bottom, obviously.

As a rooming house manager, in Seattle,
I see the mess the higher minimum-wage has created,
-- you don't, nor does the press.
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Loctek lacks rotation at the base, lacks range and can't tilt properly.

I use my PC in bed, laying down; so I need an arm
that easily moves my 25 lb, 40" monitor up and away,
so I can get up.

My 101 $ "Amazon Basics" arm is too weak ( 25 lbs max !? ),
the monitor drifts down; so I need a replacement.

Loctek never mentions how far it tilts down,
and now I know why.  Had I kept the packaging,
and not cut the cables, I would return it.

Initially, I couldn't make the monitor face 45° down 
( 45° downward tilt ) so I could view it from below;
the fix was to reinstall the tilt mechanism upside down.

But, when I moved my monitor, it broke both my monitor's
DisplayPort 2.0 port _ and _ the cable; to be fair, 
my Philips bdm4037uw monitor is poorly designed, like that.

Fortunately, I've a 4K, 60 Hz HDMI 2.0 port+cable.
To stop them from breaking again, I taped-on a roll of duct tape.

Loctek should've made attaching-detaching the monitor easier,
as they did with their older, cheaper arms -- but they didn't.

So, now, I bought the 77 $ "Ergotech Freedom Arm, Heavy Duty" 
( 30 lbs max ); it has an easy pole mount, providing height,
a 45° downward tilt, and a 90° upward tilt ( facing the ceiling ),
and, from the looks of it, it won't break my monitor's port.

Also, it extends 27", instead of the 21" Loctek gives me now;
due to the limited (90°) rotation at the base,
I had to mount the Loctek in a more distant location .

By the way, I reinforced my table with plywood,
and added a counterweight.
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          SamWormley  e6661cd5-520f-4850-83d9-9bae7ff1c883@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  b68b407e-248b-4e4e-b734-feba6d9da78d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.37pm.Seattle.2019
    SamWormley  5b6b423c-f874-43f1-8925-b7c6f2fd0cff@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--5.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m583 Dropped; 28.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Aug 17 {  4:51pm, 2019 }: 5^(PDT)  XδჴΚ
      Oceanic plants would consume the carbon dioxide blip toot sweet.

Sam Wormley replied ( to me ):
> > We've plenty of oxygen, generated by Oceanic plants;
> > high carbon dioxide levels feeds these plants, giving us more oxygen.
> > 
> > Net, rain forests don't increase the oxygen level.
> > 
> > Sam's carbon dioxide chart makes me think that today's high levels 
> > are going to be a tiny blip... it might end as fast as it came.
> 
> If you understand atmospheric CO2,
> and where it's coming from, and how it gets reduced, 
> you will soon understand that it is there for centuries.   

No, our tiny carbon dioxide blip might vanish as quickly as it came;
oceanic plants would consume this blip toot sweet.
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      SamWormley  e6661cd5-520f-4850-83d9-9bae7ff1c883@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  b68b407e-248b-4e4e-b734-feba6d9da78d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m58 Top; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Aug 17 {  2:28pm, 2019 }:13^(PDT)  Xδნϻ
      Today's carbon dioxide level might end as fast as it came.

MrAA replied ( to Sam ):
> > https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/co2_800k.png
> 
> Why is no one concerned about depletion of the free oxygen in the atmosphere.
> That has always been of more concern to me.

We've plenty of oxygen generated by plants in the ocean;
high carbon dioxide levels feeds those plants, giving us more oxygen.

Net, rain forests don't increase the oxygen level.

Sam's carbon dioxide chart makes me think that today's high levels 
are going to be a tiny blip... it might end as fast as it came.
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              Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  c907lep3rk238ngl2bqgi8pab6pu7r1u2j@4ax.com
            Kensi  qj00nj$1d9l$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.56am.Seattle.2019
        MrAA  425c2100-9f7a-4203-929c-4c0d15c199a9@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--3.53pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  03f6637a-16ff-4120-8a65-7a634dfaaef0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m58 Top; 37 Secs, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Aug 17 {  4: 3pm, 2019 }: 7^(PDT)  XδწΜ
      The day may come when we'll all need a license to surf the Internet.

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Jeffrey Epstein didn't have the benefit of the Internet;
> > he couldn't Google "painless suicide".
> 
> They didn't let him have his iPhone with him in his cell ?
> Fate worse than death !  Cruel and unusual !

The day may come when we'll all need a license to surf the Internet.
If you don't pay that fine for bullying, your license will be revoked.

Again, he was probably murdered ( hence the broken bones ).
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                Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  n9u5lepei72e026lm67b6o4ucfg0bfh4sk@4ax.com
              Kensi  qivvc9$17lc$2@gioia.aioe.org
            Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  c907lep3rk238ngl2bqgi8pab6pu7r1u2j@4ax.com
          Kensi  qj00nj$1d9l$2@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.56am.Seattle.2019
      MrAA  425c2100-9f7a-4203-929c-4c0d15c199a9@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--3.53pm.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 5  m57 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Aug 17 {  2:17pm, 2019 }:40^(PDT)  Xδლტ
      Jeffrey Epstein may have been murdered.

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Light pressure ( 20 lbs ) on the carotid artery
> > ( using a lubricated slip knot ) is a painless way to die;
> > in seconds, you've passed out (forever).
> > 
> > Plenty of celebrities have done it, sitting at their desk.
> 
> Yes, so simple, so easy!
> So do you really believe Jeffrey Epstein had to break 
> a couple of bones in his neck to get this accomplished ?

Oops, The Washington Post says it's suspicious.
He may have been murdered.
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            SamWormley  df91930f-bc9a-4ca8-822a-3a8410bb9c58@googlegroups.com
          SamWormley  31fd075b-a63d-4d64-885e-df523232beec@googlegroups.com
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qj763v$166e$4@gioia.aioe.org
      SamWormley  05b90653-fc93-4c79-a071-92715c49a8a3@googlegroups.com
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qj7s0k$2ko$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--7.36am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m306 Mad; 10.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 16 {  8:23pm, 2019 }:57^(-5)  Xδʙჳ
      Make Air Great Again.

Sam Wormley referenced:
> > > > > experts-say-we-have-until-2020-to-get-climate-change
> > > > > -under-control-and-theyre-the-optimists/ 

Make Air Great Again.
M.A.G.A.
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              Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle  qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019
        Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot  m1y5F.307$kQ5.58@fx30.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.13am.Seattle.2019
    Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot  _WB5F.1957$7O3.1371@fx10.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--10.53am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 3  m4 Shifty; 5.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Aug 16 { 10:43am, 2019 }:25^(-4)  Xδvɕ
      I welcome your absence.

Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ):
> > Newsgroups are people, not topics.
> > You shouldn't be on USENET if you don't 
> > understand how to filter out unwanted people.
> 
> I imagine that everyone's already filtered you.

I see my posts, and that's what matters most.

If you're not a people person, 
and you're obsessively, compulsively pedantic,
then I welcome your absence.
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          Jason│nobody@nowhere_com  MPG.37bd29ee5b5294a19896ff@news.eternal-september.org
        Jason│nobody@nowhere_com  MPG.37bd2b5e2c341df0989700@news.eternal-september.org
      Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  44t6lepn3bn0qrr3eh6hm8ndvtp27isjm5@4ax.com
    Jason│jason_warren@ieee_DELETE_  MPG.37bd4452a73f75fd98976d@reader443.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--9.56am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m8 Cool; 2.6 Days, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 13 {  8: 4pm, 2019 }:41^(-4)  XβʖЧ
      Windows no longer requires one to eject USB drives.

> Where's "Safely remove"?

Windows no longer requires one to eject USB drives.

If you like that "feature", you can turn it on again.

Google it.
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              Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle  qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019
        Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot  m1y5F.307$kQ5.58@fx30.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.13am.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qj6m2b$2rq$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--9.44am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 2  m199 Top; 3.4 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 16 {  9:36am, 2019 }:28^(-4)  XδkS
      This newsgroup is entirely unmoderated.

Paul replied ( to me ):
> > Newsgroups are people, not topics.
> > You shouldn't be on USENET if you don't 
> > understand how to filter out unwanted people.
> 
> This isn't a dumping ground Relf.

This newsgroup is entirely unmoderated.

Wikipedia is completely different.

My website is completely different.

The New York Times is totally different.

Twitter is different.

etc.

etc.
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              Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  grgurpFkqgqU1@mid.individual.net
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qj038m$3hv$1@dont-email.me
          Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle  qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019
    Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot  m1y5F.307$kQ5.58@fx30.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.13am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 2  m2 Shifty; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Aug 16 {  6:17am, 2019 }: 8^(-4)  XδCт
      Newsgroups are people, not topics.

Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ):
> > What if they didn't have guns ? 
> > wouldn't they find another way ?
> 
> Completely off-topic. alt.home.repair? Seriously?

Newsgroups are people, not topics.

You shouldn't be on USENET if you don't 
understand how to filter out unwanted people.
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            Kensi  qitbq1$1llc$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  n9u5lepei72e026lm67b6o4ucfg0bfh4sk@4ax.com
        Kensi  qivvc9$17lc$2@gioia.aioe.org
      Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  c907lep3rk238ngl2bqgi8pab6pu7r1u2j@4ax.com
    Kensi  qj00nj$1d9l$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.56am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, lookAlt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m69 Cool; 2.4 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 13 {  8:55pm, 2019 }:32^(2)  Xβʟɜ
      Light pressure ( 20 lbs ) on the carotid artery.

Kensi suggests:
> Just get a rope and find a high spot.

Light pressure ( 20 lbs ) on the carotid artery
( using a lubricated slip knot ) is a painless way to die;
in seconds, you've passed out (forever).

Plenty of celebrities have done it, sitting at their desk.

I'm surprised governments don't use this method.
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    Kensi  qivv7b$17lc$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.30am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 7  m69 Cool; 2.5 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 13 {  8:29pm, 2019 }:48^(2)  Xβʚც
      Problem solved.

Kensi mentioned:
> boisterous wintertime carnivals

Move farther north, problem solved.
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    Kensi  qitbq1$1llc$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.28am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 8  m69 Cool; 3.4 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 12 {  8:46pm, 2019 }:10^(2)  XαУϸ
      Farm corals.

Kensi mentioned:
> the rapid death of corals

Then farm the corals, instead of destroying them.
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              SteveCarroll  qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me
            TheSnitBot  grlb6hFj4fqU1@mid.individual.net
          MsNadegda  qj4p5q$tlq$2@dont-email.me
        Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack  qGm5F.8575$tG2.214@fx48.iad
      SteveCarroll  qj4umh$p8m$1@dont-email.me
    Kensi  qj5csa$11bi$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m189 Mad; 8.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 15 {  9:53pm, 2019 }:30^(2)  XγЮი
      Thailand, India and Vietnam.

Given a low enough minimum-wage, any old moron, 
and/or housewife looking for a little extra income,
could sell decent products, at a decent price, benefiting everyone,
as we see in places like Thailand, India and Vietnam.

When the minimum wage is too high, these people suffer;
I see them, face-to-face, I have to deal with them, directly;
it's not a pretty sight.

And the news media doesn't cover it; 
it doesn't show up in our GDP statistics.
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              SteveCarroll  qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--8.15am.Seattle.2019
          TheSnitBot  grlbj4Fj61lU3@mid.individual.net
        Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  Lbg5F.713$AR4.134@fx39.iad
      MsNadegda  qj4q7o$tlq$3@dont-email.me
    MrChrisV  h77dlehc79blmasj4p18r9dlmlpe7ekjdv@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.03am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m178 Dropped; 59.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Aug 16 {  5:14am, 2019 }:34^(-5)  Xδ2ʚ
      I'd rather that you were racist.

ChrisV wrote:
> the rich subjugate and abuse the poor.

Snit, Ms Nadegda and Mrs Kensi agree with you, 100%.

You're demonstrating blind prejudice, nasty ignorance.
I'd rather that you were racist, it'd be less destructive.

In Nazi Germany, Jews were the toast of the world,
the very people who you ( and Hitler ) hate the most.
Unfortunately, your IQ isn't high enough to understand this.

In Venezuela/Cuba, " Eat the rich " is a national policy;
and you'd do it too, if you could,
while pretending to be doing something else.

Again:

  If you house the homeless, and give them drugs, 
  you're a Communist enabler who'd slaughter "the rich".
  If you jail them, you're a heartless Nazi. 

  Either way, you're "evil".
  Why ? Because there is no decent alternative;
  if there were, we would've done it already.
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      lonelydad│lonelydad58@gmail_  XnsAAABBB87FCD63lonelydad58gmailcom@69.16.179.29
    Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  dovf2g-k1t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--5.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 3  m76 Cool; 12.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET,  Aug 15 {  5:28am, 2019 }:29^(2)  XγɼЛ
      I took my USB stick to a printshop.

Carlos wrote:
> Do not store things that are important on an USB stick,

Short-Term storage is what I care about,
and that's where USB sticks Excel.

Just today, and many times recently,
USB backups ( RoboCopy mirroring ) have saved my neck.

When my motherboard died,
I took my USB stick to a printshop, 
so I could print vital information.

Without it, I would've been in deep, deep doo-doo.

I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive.
 .4/.31 Read/Write GigaBytes/Sec on my half TeraByte USB 3.1 stick.
CrystalDiskMark, default settings.

My new SSD and USB stick are both clones of my older SSD;
so I can boot off any one of them, should things go wrong,
knowing that it'll work ( like a "restore point" ).

Front panel USBs:  2.0, 2.0, 3.0
Back:  2.0, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.1 Gen2, 3.1 Gen2 TypeC.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Home.Repair
    ╱ 9  m200 Top; 1.3 Days, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 14 {  6:47am, 2019 }:16^(-4)  XβϿъ
      What if they didn't have guns ?

Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths;
but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides,
86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old.

What if they didn't have guns ? 
wouldn't they find another way ?
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            FMurtz│haggisz@hotmail_com  SBU2F.160837$Yu7.20687@fx41.iad
          Philip_Herlihy│  MPG.37b626dee9930cbb989843@news.eternal-september.org
        FMurtz│haggisz@hotmail_com  KDd4F.168986$dY4.111908@fx35.iad
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    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qiv0vb$1r1$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--2.34pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 12  m200 Top; 2.1 Days, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 13 { 11:53am, 2019 }:30^(-4)  XβȺი
      I don't see any reason to put a Windows ISO on anything.

Paul mentioned:
> copying a Windows ISO to a USB key

I don't see any reason to put a Windows ISO on anything.
My half terabyte USB 3.1 stick, and my terabyte NVMe drive
are both clones of my older (terabyte) Sata III SSD.

So I can use any of those 3 devices to boot my PC
directly into a very familiar Win10 1903 environment,
including my apps, data and all.

So, if I screw one up so bad that " shutdown /r /o "
won't let me do a clean install, I can always go back
to one of my older boot devices, knowing it'll work.
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            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gtc9letsl64mhb5qsn7jsvbapkqeh7oec1@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.47pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ib0ble5n2c1fj758u3sen8jnpigv16m2mt@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--11.33am.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  rj9blelosr9nqtq30hitivhp5ugrrjtqqg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m87 Dropped; 4.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Aug 15 { 11:41am, 2019 }:22^(-4)  XγΛა
      I work with fine details.

Greg told me:
> You have complained in the past of eye fatigue;
> so I'm just trying to clue you in on what's causing it

The solution is to take a nap, which I often do.
Not having a computer for several days helped a lot.

> Your display is too large and your eye muscles 
> work too hard moving them back and forth and up and down
> trying to take in a ridiculously large computer display.  

No, it's more about how long I spend on the computer,
not the size of the screen.

> Have you ever seen somebody watching a 42'' television
> display while sitting two feet from it. 

370 columns of console text is different than video.
I'm unique, most people aren't Visual C++ programmers.

> With a display that large, a normal vision person sits 
> at least five or six feet back so he can comfortably take in
> the whole screen without having to move his eyes back and 
> forth/up and down.

I'm extremely nearsighted; at that distance, I can't see much;
close up, I see more than the average person.
My eyes have to move a lot, because I work with fine details.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gtc9letsl64mhb5qsn7jsvbapkqeh7oec1@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.47pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ib0ble5n2c1fj758u3sen8jnpigv16m2mt@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--11.33am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m86 Dropped; 55 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Aug 15 {  9: 4am, 2019 }:27^(-4)  XγʠЙ
      I work with 370 columns of "console" text.

Greg told me:
> Your aging eyes cannot take it all in at once so you
> have to move then up and down, side to side or you only
> see one little spot where you happen to be looking.

My eyes move fine, no problems; my monitor too.

I know what works, and what doesn't.
Text is very different from video.

My monitor automatically dims-down when showing text
( on a mostly-black screen ) and brightens up for videos.

When viewing videos, a 4k 40" curved monitor is very immersive.

When editing text, I never feel constrained+claustrophobic.
Occasionally, I work with 370 columns of "console" text; to wit:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--8.15am.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  grlbj4Fj61lU3@mid.individual.net
    Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  Lbg5F.713$AR4.134@fx39.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--10.31am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m126 Dropped; 6 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Aug 15 {  9:59am, 2019 }:22^(-6)  Xγʩა
      Racism would be better, less destructive.

Some rando wrote:
> if an employer is going to pay an employee $15/hour,
> that employee needs to create $45/hour in productivity,
> or the employer loses money on the deal.

Snit won't admit it, but it's obvious to everyone but himself that
he'd forcibly rob " the rich " and then ask " Where did they go ? ".

The fact that he's not rich himself makes it even worse,
as he's demonstrating blind prejudice, nasty ignorance.
Racism would be better, less destructive.
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      MrChrisV  8jnalelekpci7igsoo69s9jf1c80j4btj7@4ax.com
    SteveCarroll  qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--8.15am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m707 Mad; 2.9 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 15 {  7:59am, 2019 }:55  Xγʕჱ
      I'm face-to-face with homeless people and minimum-wage workers.

In Seattle, I'm face-to-face with homeless people and minimum-wage workers,
all day, every fucking day; so, take it from me, not Ms Nadegda,
when I say that Seattle's minimum-wage workers are _ NOT _ doing well.

They're underemployed and unemployed 
at a level that no one is talking about;
you don't see it in the nation's economic statistics.

Again:

  If you house the homeless, and give them drugs, 
  you're a Communist enabler who kills "the rich".
  If you jail them, you're a heartless Nazi. 

  Either way, you're "evil".
  Why ? Because there is no decent alternative;
  if there were, we would've done it already.
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        Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack  DnY4F.3$dp3.0@fx05.iad
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    Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack  Ova5F.398$R23.221@fx22.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--6.08am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m20 Dropped; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Aug 15 {  3:31am, 2019 }:10^(-5)  Xγɩȼ
      Both the murderer and the executioner are innocent.

Praetor replied ( to Snit ):
> > Jobs training, transportation, clothing, ... whatever is needed 
> > to help them get back on their feet.  Or, if they truly cannot 
> > hold a job, then still help them -- it makes no sense to not do so.
> 
> And politeness training.  
> So many people are thrown out of their homes for misbehaving.

Who are you going to rob ( at gunpoint ) 
in order to fund these wonderful programs ?! "the rich" ?

And, once you've stolen the money, and "the rich" have fled,
how do we know that you'll actually spend it righteously ?!

Also, what are you going to do when all you have left
are the sick+poor, because you've alienated "the rich" ?!

Again, you've missed my point:

  If you house the homeless, and give them drugs, you're a Communist enabler.
  If you jail them, you're a heartless Nazi; either way, you're "evil".

  Why ? Because there is no decent alternative;
  if there were, we would've done it already.

Suppose a guy had only 2 "choices":

  - Death by fire.

  - Death by falling.

One could "honestly" say, " He chose to fall. ";
yet, when one has no good alternatives,
the so-called "choice" doesn't actually make one evil.

Both the murderer and the executioner are innocent;
if the truth could be told ( a big "if" ), 
you'd realize that neither one had a choice.
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        .  cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qj2eli$6h3$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 6  m274 Mad; 3.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 14 {  7: 5pm, 2019 }:48^(-5)  XγKც
      There's no room in my dumpster.

Sergio wrote:
> buy a Raspberry Pi 3B + for $50, and run linux,  works great!

I would, but there's no room in my dumpster.
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          .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019
        .  cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019
    The_Right_And_The_Powerful│  u8e9lelid0iikp4bdh9idftemar2u9ol8d@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--7.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m15 Dropped; 6.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds,  Aug 14 {  6:46pm, 2019 }: 8^(-5)  XγH϶
      Google, "porn is free" ( with the quote marks ).

> > Last year, I spent 3'000 $, total, no PC costs.
> 
> No new porn ?

Google, "porn is free" ( with the quote marks ).

> Do you like black dudes with big dicks doing white girls ?
> It seems you do.

" Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vaginal.Orgasm.mp4 " is educational;
it shows you what a vaginal organism looks like.

Tiny dicks are fine, see:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Cervix.In.The.Vagina.JPG
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gtc9letsl64mhb5qsn7jsvbapkqeh7oec1@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m92 Dropped; 5.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Aug 14 {  6:26pm, 2019 }:43^(-4)  XγEʣ
      You don't know what I'm talking about, right ?

Greg replied ( to me ):
> > I buy a new thousand $ monitor once every 3 years or so;
> > so that's about 300$/YEAR.
> 
> What a moron! Have you never heard of perspective?
> 
> So you spend a thousand bucks on a huge monitor that you
> have to move away from several feet in order to take
> it all in or else it's eye-strain city.

My 4k, 40" curved monitor is always 2 feet away from me,
-- no more, no less -- because that's where my aging eyes focus.

I just bought a new monitor arm.
When not using the monitor, I swing it up and away from me.

> In effect, you wasted your money because you could have bought
> a top of the line laptop with included display where 
> you sit about a foot away from it and get the same effect

That's not immersive; a 4k, 40" curved monitor is immersive. 

I never buy prebuilt PCs, they never have what I want;
also, they come with crap I don't want.

I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive.
.4/.31 Read/Write GigaBytes/Sec on my half TeraByte USB 3.1 stick.
CrystalDiskMark, default settings.

My new SSD and USB stick are both clones of my older SSD.

Front panel USBs:  2.0, 2.0, 3.0
Back:  2.0, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.1 Gen2, 3.1 Gen2 TypeC 
       ( 20 volt, 100 watt {hot}, 8k 60Hz +audio ).

You don't know what I'm talking about, right ?
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m700 Mad; 3.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Aug 14 {  1:21pm, 2019 }:33^(PDT)  Xβბξ
      I buy a new thousand $ monitor once every 3 years or so.

Steve asked me:
> how'd you manage to drum up $3-4k for a new computer? 

If you add everything up, all the upgrades/replacements,
it's actually thousands of $ more than that;
still, it's 100% worth it.  

I buy a new thousand $ monitor once every 3 years or so;
so that's about 300$/YEAR.

I probably replace most of the PC every 5 years;
but I expect that cost to go down.

My (fantastic) 9-year-old printer is still going strong.

Last year, I spent 3'000 $, total, no PC costs.
Usually, I earn 6 K $/year, and pay about 440 $/year in
self-employment taxes, after my "earned income credit".

I have no car, take no buses|trains|planes|Uber|etc.

My rent is "free" but I spend 200+$/month on the house.
My food is free, thanks to SNAP ( food stamps ),
I never eat out ( I PREFER my cooking over restaurants ).

My Internet is free.
My phone ( including text messages ) is 33 $/YEAR.
My hand-rolled cigarettes cost me about 30 $/month. 

Last 30+ years, I spent nothing on healthcare.
I never date, last time I had (real) sex was 1991. 
I pay no insurance of any kind.
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              flatfish+++│flatfish@musician_  qivokb$euu$17@dont-email.me
            SteveCarroll  qivp9t$49r$11@dont-email.me
          DFS  j1W4F.150805$7s1.28292@fx44.iad
        SteveCarroll  qj1c82$kuj$4@dont-email.me
      DFS  hZW4F.254868$i84.119298@fx34.iad
    SteveCarroll  qj1fbk$2vs$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m698 Mad; 1.5 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 14 { 10:11am, 2019 }:16  Xβбъ
      Growing up.

Steve replied ( to DFS ):
> > > " You can check out any time you like,
> > >   but you can never leave. "
> >
> > Good lyric.  Henley had a college degree in English.
> > Also the last lyric before that famed "dual solo"!
> 
> I can't recall what it is...

" Eagles - Hotel California Live ":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw3CzmBw8hM

It's about growing up.
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          HughHuntzinger  2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m30 Top; 13.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Aug 14 { 11:29am, 2019 }:40^(PDT)  Xβоტ
      Every dollar in your bank account represents 2+ $ of earnings.

Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to Steve and me ):
> > > A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned.
> > 
> > I'd amend that to: 'A dollar properly invested...".
> 
> A fair point too, although the dollar has to first be saved,

Every dollar in your bank account represents 2+ $ of earnings.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.55am.Seattle.2019
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      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  pgh8le54i1jol54dbcmri38v3mo21g9elr@4ax.com
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37bde83db43607268cb@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m316 Mad; 59.5 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Aug 14 { 10:44am, 2019 }: 4^(-7)  Xβзɼ
      He chose to drown to death.

Checkmate wrote:
> I've been safely taking oxys for probably nine years now

Continually ? Why ?

> why should [ thieving junkies ] become MY problem ?

" Am I my brother's keeper ? " -- Cain, Abel's brother.

Yet again, we've returned to the original post:

  If you house the homeless, you're a Communist.
  If you jail them, you're a Nazi; either way, you're "evil".
  Why ? Because there are no good alternatives.

Is this really so hard to understand ?

Suppose a guy had only 2 "choices":

  - Death by strangulation.

  - Death by drowning.

One could "honestly" say, " He chose to drown to death. ";
yet, when one has no good alternatives,
the so-called "choice" doesn't actually make one evil.

Both the murderer and the executioner are innocent;
if the truth could be told ( a big "if" ), 
you'd realize that neither had a choice.
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        BenJacoby  qj163j$jtp$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.00am.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  TuV4F.141316$TW.129207@fx03.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m1 Shifty; 41.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Aug 14 {  8: 9am, 2019 }:39  XβНτ
      Why not _ attempt _ to understand what I'm saying ?!

Branimir Maksimovic replied ( to me ):
> > Clean needles save lives, they call it "harm reduction".
> > Again, there are no good alternatives.
> 
> Same old farting, brain fart...

You can't read English, I assume.  Still...

Why not _ attempt _ to understand what I'm saying ?!
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          MrChrisV  hlp5lelsigamhqqe1nqohnrcidjkd2a4kb@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019
    DFS  eOV4F.277918$GS1.269842@fx48.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.47am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m28 Top; 3.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Aug 14 {  8:31am, 2019 }: 6^(-4)  XβСȸ
      Ronnie was right, money trickles down.

DFS replied ( to me ):
> > In Seattle, a car is a liability.
> > Same goes for a house|condo;
> > better to rent a tiny room in shared housing.
> 
> That's a small step up from living in jail.  No thanks.

Owning a house|car is more jail-like than renting a room in Seattle.

You don't own it, it owns you.

> > A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned.
> 
> In most advanced societies, it's easier to earn a dollar
> than it is to save one.

Your wealth is a ball-n-chain, it holds you down.
Money flows from the richer to the poorer; that's just osmosis.
America becomes more like Calcutta, and vice versa.

Ronnie was right, money trickles down.
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              HughHuntzinger  9556fd58-cbd7-4b20-a11e-a44ce0759a89@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  qth5le13md8q4bd4as1ntdbnc6j39hudm0@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  1cj5le9v3h9m4tlup3idom2lifmk2nemt6@4ax.com
        MrChrisV  iio5le5tla0u1cbe3acndporpkm6fi1ru6@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  hlp5lelsigamhqqe1nqohnrcidjkd2a4kb@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m26 Top; 21.4 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Aug 13 { 10:36am, 2019 }:55^(PDT)  Xβut
      A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned.

Hugh Huntzinger wrote:
> [ chrisv implied ] that he found a car that was "better", but 
> no such car has actually been named, so that claim is vacuous

In Seattle, a car is a liability.

Same goes for a house|condo; 
better to rent a tiny room in shared housing.

A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.48am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qj163j$jtp$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.00am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 8  m255 Mad; 19.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Aug 14 {  7:33am, 2019 }:16^(-4)  XβЗΦ
      There are no good alternatives.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > If you house the homeless, you're a Communist.
> > If you jail them, you're a Nazi; either way, you're "evil".
> > Why ? Because there are no good alternatives.
> 
> Sanctuary Shitholes like San Fransisco have the answer: 
> free drugs, free needles and lots of fentanyl.
> Problem solves itself.

Clean needles save lives, they call it "harm reduction".
Again, there are no good alternatives.
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              The_Right_And_The_Powerful│  g7vuke5l9bv28m157ghieaukhf737pd1bt@4ax.com
            ScottDoty  gr9ljaF2h5rU1@mid.individual.net
          HughHuntzinger  70de0f50-35d2-435c-a85a-a502cd475cb2@googlegroups.com
        ScottDoty  grbliuFdkc0U8@mid.individual.net
      HughHuntzinger  eceaa8d7-d458-4a59-9bf6-a35b1ab8a416@googlegroups.com
    ScottDoty  greoldF5tc3U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--7.45am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m63 Top; 1.4 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Aug 12 {  8:21pm, 2019 }:17  XαПΧ
      I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive.

Scott Doty wrote:
> # ethtool enp2s0 | grep Speed
>  Speed: 10000Mb/s
> [ that's my battlestation ]

I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive.
..4/.31 GigaBytes/Sec Read/Write on my half TeraByte USB 3.1 stick.
CrystalDiskMark, default settings.

It really does make a difference; 
my 4.25 GigaHz i7-8700 (gaming mode) system feels extremely fast.
Task Manager says my ddr4 RAM is running at 3 GigaHz (gaming mode).

All the same, I wouldn't have upgraded if by old motherboard hadn't died.
Now I have a loose i7-5775c and a terabyte SATA III SSD
that I don't know what to do with.

My new SSD and USB stick are both clones of my older SSD.

Everything exclusive to me, including most of my apps, are under:
"C:\__"; when things are in a good state,
I mirror them to the USB drive thusly:

ShadowSpawn   C:\__   R:   RoboCopy  R:  A:\__   /B  /XF  __.TXT  /XD Tmp Del  /NDL  /mir  /J  /NJH  /NJS  /NP  /UNILOG:C:\__\X\__.TXT

Despite spanning 130 gigs and 180,000 files, it's super quick.
Without ShadowSpawn, many files couldn't be backed up
( because, on a live/running system, they're locked ).
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      pittsburghjoe│pittsburghjoe  0a559574-0f15-46ee-a8fa-727b8838b07f@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  1105935a-d26b-42f0-9cda-b9bfd3b54522@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.58am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m18 Top; 11.8 Hours, GoogleG, 75.90.39.122,  Aug 13 {  7: 1pm, 2019 }:25^(PDT)  Xβʌɕ
      At the quantum level, you can't observe something without disturbing it.

> > Double slit interpretation:

At the quantum level, you can't observe something without disturbing it.

P.S. "dark energy" is just entropy.  "dark matter" is vacuum energy.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.48am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      There are no good alternatives.

If you house the homeless, you're a Communist.
If you jail them, you're a Nazi; either way, you're "evil".
Why ? Because there are no good alternatives.
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              .  CNpXE.46156$Yu7.21648@fx41.iad
            JohnSefton  89fcca0d-6450-4f66-a5da-8479b03c7301@googlegroups.com
          Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gpa6ujFbjnmU1@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.01am.Seattle.2019
      Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gparvsFfrokU1@mid.individual.net
    whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net  qiutvf$fom$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--2.08pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m70 Dropped; 2.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 13 { 11: 2am, 2019 }:23^(-5)  Xβyʏ
      "ObamaCare" keeps people out of hospitals and living longer.

Some rando replied ( to Sylvia ):
> > > > [ due to the extent of MRSA ] the only surgery
> > > > people will risk having is life-saving.
> > > > Forget hip replacements, etc.
> 
> I knew a man in England who waited 5 years for a hip replacement.
> While recovering from surgery, he got an infection by 
> antibiotic-resistant microbes; it took him three days to die. 

See ?! "ObamaCare" keeps people out of hospitals and living longer.
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      SamWormley  40cebae1-7fea-44ec-8c4a-57d6466e3a2c@googlegroups.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  grepd5F694kU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--9.49am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m18 Top; 6.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Aug 12 {  8:33pm, 2019 }:55^(10)  XαСϛ
      "Lesser" species/people.

Sylvia wrote:
> I wonder how many people will actually charge their vehicles 
> [ via a renewable source ].

We're slowly burning this planet up, same as the sun,
because that's what nature programmed us to do (sustainably).

We measure our progress in terms of GDP,
and we take pride in our ability to consume more than other, 
"lesser" species/people.
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              nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  100820190931168933%nospam@nospam.invalid
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--10.08am.Seattle.2019
          nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  100820191335197631%nospam@nospam.invalid
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--3.45am.Seattle.2019
      nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  110820190813358387%nospam@nospam.invalid
    Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_  0ba1leh7ovec11tplnt51001lcdeq4qkm3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.12--0.41am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 7.4 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Aug 11 {  4:53pm, 2019 }:54^(12)  XΩჴჰ
      Hands-free, not holding a tablet-keyboard.

Eric Stevens replied:
> > > A tablet is better than nothing,
> > > assuming "nothing" is your _ only _ alternative.
> > > 
> > > Other than that, I've no use for it.
> > > If you're a fashion model, or a rock star, the story is different.
> 
> Nowadays, you go into a hospital and every staff member is carrying
> a cellphone or a tablet, all connected to the hospital network.

Meanwhile, I'm laying in bed, all relaxed-like, 
with my 4k 40" curved monitor swung over me ( via an arm );
-- hands-free, not holding a tablet-keyboard.

Instead, I use mouse+speech; see:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
            .  qikj4v$54m$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--6.22am.Seattle.2019
        nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  100820190931168933%nospam@nospam.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--10.08am.Seattle.2019
    nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  100820191335197631%nospam@nospam.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--3.45am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m3 Shifty; 16 Hours, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 10 { 10:35am, 2019 }:19^(-4)  XΩtэ
      No need to hold a fucking tablet.

Some rando replied ( to me ):
> > Tablets are for when, sadly, you can't have a PC.
> 
> Nope. for many tasks, a tablet is the the best,
> and sometimes only, choice.  Choose the best tool for the job.

A tablet is better than nothing,
assuming "nothing" is your _ only _ alternative.
Other than that, I've no use for it.

I'm laying in bed, right now, with my 
4k 40" curved monitor swung over me ( via an arm );
it's very relaxing -- no need to hold a fucking tablet.

Most of the time, my screen is mostly black 
( light text on a black background, 
  " http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual.Studio.2019.PNG " ), 

and the monitor automatically dims down;
when watching a video, the monitor brightens up again.

> > Fewer apps and fewer peripherals would be okay,
> > provided you're not into computers.
> 
> nonsense.

If you're a fashion model, or a rock star, the story is different.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
          ScottDoty  gr8m8rFqtmkU2@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--4.22pm.Seattle.2019
      The_Right_And_The_Powerful│  g7vuke5l9bv28m157ghieaukhf737pd1bt@4ax.com
    ScottDoty  gr9ljaF2h5rU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--0.17am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m11 Top; 1.4 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Aug 10 {  9:58pm, 2019 }:19  XΩʩБ
      What are you backing up ?

> 28'918'626'860
> Mostly backups.

29 gigabytes for backups ?

What are you backing up ?
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  gr8m8rFqtmkU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--4.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m9 Top; 2.9 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Aug 10 {  1: 3pm, 2019 }:39  XΩɐτ
      Are you storing terabytes of videos ?

Scott Doty replied ( to me ):
> bought a new Cooler Master HAF Lan case

Why ? are you storing terabytes of videos ?
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
        Big_Al│Big_Al@invalid_com  qikj4v$54m$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--6.22am.Seattle.2019
    nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  100820190931168933%nospam@nospam.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--10.08am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 22  m68 Cool; 1.7 Hours, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 10 {  6:31am, 2019 }:16^(-4)  XΩFɄ
      You're not into computers.

Some rando replied ( to me ):
> > Without peripherals, a PC is just an overpriced tablet.
> > This is the problem with Apple: scant peripherals.
> 
> nonsense.
> Tablets and pcs are designed for very different use cases.

Tablets are for when, sadly, you can't have a PC.

> There's no shortage of peripherals for Apple.

Depends on how you define the word "shortage".

Fewer apps and fewer peripherals would be okay,
provided you're not into computers.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
    Big_Al│Big_Al@invalid_com  qikj4v$54m$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--6.22am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m16 Cool; 16.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug  9 {   :56pm, 2019 }:14^(-4)  XΨΩʆ
      Scant peripherals.

Big_Al replied ( to me ):
> > 3'022 $ Total, before Seattle's 10% tax.
> 
> You forgot something in your price list.  I got $2,862.

No, 3'022 $ is right, Google:

  130+34+80+80+296+34+178+80+150+64+142+114+978+350+160+152

Also, I just dropped another 482 $, after Seattle's 10% tax, for:

  130 $,  512 gig, USB 3.1 "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX" Drive.
  228 $,  1 TeraByte, "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec.
   80 $,  Corsair CX Series 650 Watt power supply.

I think my 7-year-old power supply was failing (initially).
Looking at Windows' event viewer, I noticed that
power supply failures were dropping cores/threads !

> But a lot of that is not the PC.
> A Wi-Fi Router?  Fire Tablet?  Printer?

Without peripherals, a PC is just an overpriced tablet.
This is the problem with Apple: scant peripherals.

I couldn't have done it (upgraded) without the Fire Tablet;
it's really nice, in an emergency -- much better than nothing.

My 8-year-old printer is _ vital _ to my business;
it's a real workhorse; ultra-cheap and long-lasting.

> But I will say it sounds like a nice rig.  Should scream.
> I never have had a PC over 3.2 GigaHz.

Were it not for "gaming mode", mine would also be 3.2 GigaHz.
Hence the "copper, water-in-a-vacuum HeatPipes" CPU Fan.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
    philo│philo@privacy_net  qikhkd$rgl$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--5.38am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 16  m17 Cool; 13.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug  9 {   :30pm, 2019 }:21^(-5)  XΨΥL
      PCIe "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec.

Philo replied ( to me ):
> > Since my PC died, it's taken me 7 (sleepless) days to recover.
> > I had to do a clean install ( shutdown /r /o ) of Win10 v1903;
> 
> I would just have placed the HD in a new machine.

That's what I did, hence the clean install.
The boot–SSD is 4 years old.

The fanless power supply is 7 years old.
The laser printer+scanner is over 8 years old.

The 34 $ g600 mouse lasted nearly 3 years;
I should've replaced it sooner, but it was "good enough".
I wear out mice like nobody's business.

The motherboard died after 5 years.
                       
P.S. I just bought a 130 $, 512 gig, USB 3.1 
"Corsair Flash Voyager GTX" Drive; USB 2.0 compatible.
Reads+Writes 440 MegaBytes/Sec.

Also, I bought a 228 $, 1 TeraByte, 
PCIe Gen 3.0 x 4 "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec.

"Samsung Data Migration" will clone my current SSD.
Some say they had to enable NVMe in the UEFI(bios).

And I bought a 80 $ Corsair CX Series 650 Watt power supply.

> Win10 is one of the best operating systems 
> I've seen for surviving a transplant into different H/W.

It booted right away, but it was unstable for some unknown reason;
it got more stable with time, even when I did nothing;
power supply problem ?

> I probably would have looked for an identical mobo on ebay first

Newer motherboards are so much better+faster,
I couldn't pass up the opportunity to upgrade.

> Win10 would probably need re-activating.

Yes, but I won't bother with that, even though I could.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      My (once nice) PC (prematurely) died (motherboard?).

Since my (once nice) PC (prematurely) died (motherboard?),
it's taken me 7 (sleepless) days to recover; to wit (rounding):

  1 day to come to grips, buy an Amazon Fire tablet, and order parts.
  2 days to get the parts ( Amazon Prime ).
  1 day to piece it together ( no hardware issues ).
  3 days to load+modify software.

I had to do a clean install ( shutdown /r /o ) of Win10 v1903;
contrary to MSI support, my original copy of Windows wasn't needed.
To save time, I activated it using a well-known key.

I had to re-install+re-configure all of my apps+fonts too;
_ plenty _ of tangents, of course.

Upgrading to Firefox 69 was a _ Royal _ pain, as expected;
each upgrade destroys my previous settings in a spectacular way.
I used the "Chrome Inspector" ( a.k.a. "Browser Toolbox" ); see:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT

I'm not done modifying my copy of Visual Studio 2019
initially, I had to use Notepad++ instead.

For some _ strange _  reason, 
my PC simply got more-n-more stable with time; it's fine now.

My firmware was only 1 month older than the current release; 
but I updated it anyways.

( MSI MPG z390 Gaming Edge AC ) Motherboard Drivers:

    M-Flash BIOS,  April 1, 2019,   vA50 -- E7B17IMS.A50
    Chipset Driver,  May 8, 2019,  v10.1.17968.8131
    Network Drivers,  July 30, 2019,  v24.0.0.11
    RST ( SSD, M.2 ) Driver,  May 8, 2019,  v17.2.6.1027
    Wi-Fi Driver (unused),  July 30, 2019,  v21.30.1.0
    RealTek Audio (unused),  Aug 7, 2019,  v6.0.8765.1
    iGPU (unused),  March 6, 2019,  v25.20.100.6471

I used MSI's "Mystic Light" to turn off the motherboard's LEDs.

The CPU fan has an LED controller on its cable; I turned it off.

On the ATX case, I used a front panel button to turn off fan LEDs;
I covered the _ Bright _ blue "On" LED with 4 layers of Gorilla tape;
I left the red "hard disk activity" LED as is ( it's barely noticeable ).

    Front panel USBs:  2.0, 2.0, 3.0
    Back:  2.0, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.1 Gen2, 3.1 Gen2 TypeC 
           ( 20 volt, 100 watt {hot}, 8k 60Hz +audio ).

    Aug 12, 2019:  130 $,  Loctek Monitor Arm, Max: 33 lbs, 34 inch monitor.
    Aug  9, 2019:   34 $,  Logitech g600 mouse (cheap!).
    Aug  6, 2019:   80 $,  ddr4 RAM, 3 GigaHz ( gaming mode ), 16 gigs.
                    80 $,  Amazon Fire Tablet.
                   296 $,  i7-8700, 4.25+ GigaHz ( gaming mode ).
                    34 $,  CPU Fan, 4 copper, water-in-a-vacuum HeatPipes.
                   178 $,  "MSI MPG z390 Gaming Edge AC" motherboard.
                    80 $,  ATX Mid-Tower Chassis.
    Jul 26, 2019:  150 $,  MSI GeForce GTX 1650 video card, MadVR 4k, 60 fps.
    Jul 16, 2019:   64 $,  TP-Link AC1750, Archer a7 router. 
    May  1, 2019:  142 $,  Logitech g635 HeadSet,  after-tax.
    Feb 18, 2018:  114 $,  Logitech g910 keyboard.
    Jul 12, 2017:  978 $,  4k, 40", 25 lb, Philips bdm4037uw curved monitor.   17.43" to the center, from the right edge.
    Nov 21, 2015:  350 $,  1 TeraByte Samsung 850 EVO, SATA III.
    Dec  8, 2012:  160 $,  Fanless power supply, Rosewill SilentNight.
    Jul 27, 2011:  152 $,  Brother DCP-7065DN Laser Printer+Scanner.

3'022 $ Total, before Seattle's 10% tax.
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      MitchellRaemsch  a6d7b45d-5314-48e2-90ec-8f850626312b@googlegroups.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gqkb8lFechbU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--10.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m10 Top; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Aug  2 {  7:53pm, 2019 }: 9^(10)  XΤSу
      The science-fiction guys make more money.

Sylvia replied ( to Mitchell ):
> What's the point of continuing to post this stuff, 
> if you're unwilling, or unable, to respond to repeated 
> explanations as to why your analysis is wrong ?

If you hate science, and you love science-fiction, 
then "Sci.Physics" is a good place to vent your anger.

Here, you can feel all superior,
compared to us "autistic eggheads".

After all, the science-fiction guys make more money.
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              hanson│hanson@quick_net  qhvfk3$csi$1@dont-email.me
            MrAA  5321be9a-f2c8-4234-b757-7cde43513db3@googlegroups.com
          SamWormley  6d7a0f12-3d1c-49b0-bad9-fc7eff845b93@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  57ed6b13-c850-4734-8242-02a054a3782d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--6.30pm.Seattle.2019
    The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D44FF3C.7B10@ix.netcom.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m63 Dropped; 48.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Netfront.NET,  Aug  2 {  8:27pm, 2019 }:56^(-7)  XΤYϜ
      Chinese people adore Jews.

Starmaker asked:
> Have you ever heard anyone say..."I Love Jews!"?

I love the Jewish culture; Einstein, comedians, 
bankers, all of it.  Chinese people adore Jews.
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            HerbertGlazier  d260e675-d957-4ad3-aaa3-36347251ffef@googlegroups.com
          hanson│hanson@quick_net  qhvfk3$csi$1@dont-email.me
        MrAA  5321be9a-f2c8-4234-b757-7cde43513db3@googlegroups.com
      SamWormley  6d7a0f12-3d1c-49b0-bad9-fc7eff845b93@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  57ed6b13-c850-4734-8242-02a054a3782d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--6.30pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m51 Top; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Aug  2 {  5: 3pm, 2019 }: 9^(PDT)  XΤ0Ξ
      Hanson was shot in the head by a Jew.

Apparently, Hanson was shot in the head by a Jew; 
ever since, he's been unable to explain why he hates them.
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      SamWormley  471342f2-aed4-4d5c-8ab9-61daad1cca7b@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  4c8eaa90-5359-474f-a209-1e183a9528c8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--6.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m51 Top; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Aug  2 {  4:34pm, 2019 }:54^(PDT)  XΣჱд
      "dark matter" is vacuum energy.

"dark energy" is just entropy.

"dark matter" is vacuum energy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
            The_Right_And_The_Powerful│  pt67keh7va18t6q12p4e119lmasijaln2m@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
        Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-A49366.02100602082019@reader.eternal-september.org
      snipeco_2@gmail_com(Sn!pe  1obofnh.1t1i5x1egll60N%snipeco.2@gmail.com
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-770FF7.05550802082019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--7.57am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m11 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug  2 {  5:55am, 2019 }:17^(-7)  XΣϷɅ
      Everything is nothing.

The future is just as fixed as the past, the time-scape is static;
randomness is naught but ignorance, everything is nothing.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse;
so "God" (nature) has us playing the "sustainable consumption" game.
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            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D434B71.26E9@ix.netcom.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
        The_Right_And_The_Powerful│  pt67keh7va18t6q12p4e119lmasijaln2m@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-A49366.02100602082019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--7.44am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m11 Dropped; 5.5 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug  2 {  2:10am, 2019 }:14^(-7)  XΣμϼ
      No one is living the fantasy.

Siri Cruise replied ( to me ):
> > Like video games, porn isn't real.
> 
> The first step is realising you live the fantasy.

No one is living the fantasy, I assure you.

Every dollar a man earns is just another reason 
for a woman to dump his smelly ass.

God forbid he take out a life insurance policy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--6.21am.Seattle.2019
            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D41C6EC.1BF9@ix.netcom.com
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D43441E.6429@ix.netcom.com
        The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D434B71.26E9@ix.netcom.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
    The_Right_And_The_Powerful│  pt67keh7va18t6q12p4e119lmasijaln2m@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m12 Dropped; 25.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds,  Aug  1 {  7:13pm, 2019 }:17^(-5)  XΣʎɅ
      Porn isn't real.

An idiot told me:
> I'm sure you could make some connection from porn
> to your "young men should not have sex" angle.

Sure: Like video games, porn isn't real life.
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          HerbertGlazier  d260e675-d957-4ad3-aaa3-36347251ffef@googlegroups.com
        SamWormley  d5496ab2-e6cb-4c1f-a92d-7f27e84ea5b3@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  39c37859-bcbd-4de6-845f-f691166a840f@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  f7c386a8-c2f0-4dbb-93e3-b1bc57a224b4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m49 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Aug  1 {  4:34pm, 2019 }: 1^(PDT)  XΣɳϡ
      I love my life because I'm heavily invested in it.

I love my life because I'm heavily invested in it.

If you invested in others, and they let you down, then you failed.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--6.21am.Seattle.2019
        The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D41C6EC.1BF9@ix.netcom.com
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D43441E.6429@ix.netcom.com
    The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5D434B71.26E9@ix.netcom.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m3 Dropped; 5.2 Hours, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Netfront.NET,  Aug  1 {  1:28pm, 2019 }:33^(-7)  XΣɔП
      She'll kill you for a cigarette.

"Starmaker" wrote:
> I know guys who cannot pick up any girl at nightclubs;
> so I point to them where I keep my supply...
> and BINGO, he scores the first time!

How stupid would one have to be to allow 
a fake "wife" to empty one's pockets ?

She'll kill you for a cigarette.

Get her pregnant and you'll collect another child support obligation,
not a child.  If that is fulfilling to you, then you have low standards.

Calcutta is becoming more like America and vice versa.
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Aug 1, 2019
. " A marriage license is the original communist manifesto ! "

  Amen, brother ! EXACTLY.

  And Karl Marx impregnated his employee ( the maid ),
  and then disavowed the resulting child,
  keeping it a secret from everyone, including his wife.

  Such is THE REALITY of Marxism, under the façade.

  Polygamy is a form of capitalism ( best man wins );
  monogamy is socialism ( guaranteed equal outcomes ). 
  Promiscuous gays are more talented.

  Communism is " a financial gulag ", you say.
  Powerful Governments steal with ease, but can't win souls.
  Calcutta is becoming more like America and vice versa.
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Aug 1, 2019
. Please don't delude yourself, 
  Patrick can't stop her from taking his child.

  She can take his stupid money, but shall never get his soul;
  so it's hard on her too, but Patrick is much,
  MUCH more likely to take his life.

  The kid doesn't care, he just wants to play video games.

  As is most often the case, she divorced him,
  not the other way around; his parents don't like her.

  Monogamy used to work, but it doesn't anymore;
  today it's more likely to destroy your life, not help it.

  MGTOW:
      In the modern world, the "husband" position has a negative value;
      e.g. people spend billions to rid themselves of their "husband" status.

  InCel:                              
      There are no pretty young women ( or nice young men ) left in rural China;
      they've all gone to the city; so ugly old farmers (foolishly) buy a fake 
      "wife" from North Korea -- because they're desperate+naïve+uneducated.
      Even there, it doesn't end well.  "Human Trafficking" is a sick joke. 

  Everyone, including feminists:
      Modern society has replaced the family with something entirely different.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--6.21am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Modern society has replaced the family with something entirely different.

In the modern world, the "husband" position has a negative value;
e.g. people spend billions to rid themselves of their "husband" status.

There are no pretty young women ( or nice young men ) left in rural China;
they've all gone to the city; so ugly old farmers (foolishly) buy a fake 
"wife" from North Korea -- because they're desperate+naïve+uneducated.

Even there, it doesn't end well.  "Human Trafficking" is a sick joke.
Modern society has replaced the family with something entirely different.
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              T│T@invalid_invalid  qhibbt$8r3$1@dont-email.me
            Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq3rnfFs97nU1@mid.individual.net
          T│T@invalid_invalid  qhlhc2$l0l$1@dont-email.me
        Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq73ppFisdrU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--10.16pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhm3ff$pa5$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.29--2.27am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m201 Top; 3 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 28 { 11:24pm, 2019 }:48^(-4)  XΟоm
      The robots are getting better even as people are getting worse.

Paul:
> It'd be good if a snack-fetching robot could also weld;
> so it could work at the car plant all day,
> then come home and fetch snacks for me.

You just described the perfect spouse.
The robots are getting better even as people are getting worse.
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              T│T@invalid_invalid  qhgiog$4mc$2@dont-email.me
            Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq30qgFmihbU1@mid.individual.net
          T│T@invalid_invalid  qhibbt$8r3$1@dont-email.me
        Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq3rnfFs97nU1@mid.individual.net
      T│T@invalid_invalid  qhlhc2$l0l$1@dont-email.me
    Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq73ppFisdrU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--10.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m27 Cool; 2.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET,  Jul 28 {  7:26pm, 2019 }: 2^(-5)  XΟЖɺ
      In America, robots are our only hope.

Getting a good display, with the highest resolution+fps,
is the hardest part of any build.  The proper size of a monitor
is an interesting question; it depends on how close you want it to be.

There may come a day when everyone will be wearing computer screens;
so you'll have no idea what anyone is looking at.

In America, robots are our only hope;
they must get better, because people are getting worse.
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              ScottDoty  gq6on3FgmlsU1@mid.individual.net
            TheSnitBot  gq6t81Fhi7iU3@mid.individual.net
          ScottDoty  gq6v6jFgmlsU3@mid.individual.net
        TheSnitBot  gq70joFi97hU1@mid.individual.net
      TheSnitBot  gq72ddFijf3U1@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  qhllpc$g8q$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--9.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  m275 Mad; 2.1 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 28 {  7:31pm, 2019 }: 8  XΟЗȺ
      Snit couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

Snit couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.
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              T│T@invalid_invalid  qhgu6e$hqk$1@dont-email.me
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhhpir$tj4$1@dont-email.me
          T│T@invalid_invalid  qhib5o$7po$1@dont-email.me
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhifnn$3uf$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--3.20pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhilbt$40g$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--6.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m199 Top; 2.3 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 27 {  4: 5pm, 2019 }:34^(-4)  XΞწნ
      FFmPeg ?

Paul wrote:
> Chop (to uncompressed intermediate format):
> 
>   ffmpeg -i KEY01.mp4 -map 0 -copytb 1 -c:v rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr24 -af "volume=6dB"
>       -ac 2 -c:a pcm_s16le -f segment -segment_list out.list
>       -segment_frames 26267,52535,78803,105071,131339,157607,183875,210143,236411,262679,288947
>       G:\WORK\out%03d.mov
> 
> Then, twelve encoding instances similar to this:
> 
>   cd /d C:\FFMPEG\bin
>   ffmpeg -i G:\WORK\out000.mov -vcodec cinepak -ac 2 -acodec pcm_s16le G:\WORK\a00.mov
> 
> The join operation is almost purely a file copy operation,
> with only the ends being spliced in a lossless way.
> The rate operator corrects the damaged frame rate. 
> 
>   ffmpeg -f concat -r 30000/1001 -i filelist.txt -c copy N:\concattest2.avi
> 
> The filelist.txt has twelve lines similar to this:
> 
>   file 'G:\WORK\a00.avi'

ffmpeg -i L:\movie.mpg  -f image2 -q:v 1 -c:v mjpeg a%03d.jpg
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              T│T@invalid_invalid  qhgiog$4mc$2@dont-email.me
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhgqr0$3ml$1@dont-email.me
          T│T@invalid_invalid  qhgu6e$hqk$1@dont-email.me
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhhpir$tj4$1@dont-email.me
      T│T@invalid_invalid  qhib5o$7po$1@dont-email.me
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhifnn$3uf$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--3.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m199 Top; 22.5 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 27 {  2:29pm, 2019 }:28^(-4)  XΞნზ
      FFmPeg ?

Paul wrote:
> The resulting 12 movie segments were then joined
> via lossless join, at around 150MB/sec.

Using what, FFmPeg ?  what are the commandline switches ?
Can it save-off a 1 minute segment from 60 minute video ?

150 MegaBytes/sec ?! 
I thought a 26 MegaBits/sec video was a lot.
What was the FPS and resolution ?

> If I ran the entire movie through one core, 
> it would have taken forever.
> But that's what the software wanted to do.

Googling " multi-threaded video editor " doesn't look promising;
I doubt video editors use cores efficiently.
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          lonelydad│lonelydad58@gmail_  XnsAA98EA2678203lonelydad58gmailcom@69.16.179.29
        T│T@invalid_invalid  qhgiog$4mc$2@dont-email.me
      Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq30qgFmihbU1@mid.individual.net
    T│T@invalid_invalid  qhibbt$8r3$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--2.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m116 Cool; 49.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 27 {  1:14pm, 2019 }:51^(-7)  XΞაʫ
      Scary UFO Tests.

Someone wrote:
> Most applications do not thread worth beans.
> I instead put my money towards NVMe drives and fast
> memory buses.  Now that makes a YUGE difference.

The monitor, graphics card, and monitor arm
are the hardest to get right, I think.

The Apple monitor cost 6000$, and the stand is 1000$.
Compared to that, the motherboard is chump change.

Scary UFO Tests:
  http://TestUFO.COM
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              Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
          Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhdadd$6lj$1@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.16pm.Seattle.2019
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.37pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhgvgj$nv1$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--2.19am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m195 Top; 2.3 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 27 {   :46am, 2019 }:28^(-4)  XΞΧК
      Only a 240 hertz monitor can scroll without jitter.

Paul,

I don't have an IPS monitor; so a notionally "black" screen 
looks cloudy in various places ( unrelated to the edge )
and the clouds shift, depending on the viewing angle.

When staring at bright text, the background looks truly black.

> Task Manager is nothing special.  It has not been
> granted any super-powers.  It runs under the management
> of DWM like everything else.

Check out this vertical scrolling test:
  http://TestUFO.COM/framerates-text

> And I don't think the special effects settings 
> [ Run: SystemPropertiesPerformance ] has anything to help.
> There's probably at least one "smooth scrolling"
> special effect, but it doesn't do what you think it does.

I don't see a "Smooth Scrolling" option anywhere.

> It would slow down the scroll, because it attempts to
> do it a row of pixels at a time. And it is likely to
> have a pretty miserable scroll throttle on it.
> 
> The scroll you see now, should do the scrolling with
> multiple rows of pixels per move.

Correct, only a 240 hertz monitor can scroll without jitter.

Compounding the issue, the importance of better resolution
is demonstrated here ( 4k isn't enough for me ):
  http://TestUFO.COM/aliasing-visibility

When editing text, I want a small screen, up close;
so I don't have to swivel my head to see the corners.

When watching videos, I want a large, distant screen; 
so I can relax, all casual-like, with it out of my way.

Anywho... I'll put away the shrooms now.

> Your monitor could have dynamic backlighting,

I turned it on, just now, using the OSD; 
it's strange to watch the brightness vary,
as if by some invisible hand, all the time.

Turning on Nvidia's "Full Dynamic Range" option 
( 0 to 255, instead of 16 to 235 ! ) 
under "Color Settings" ( under "Change Resolution" 
in Nvidia's "Control Panel" ) makes blacks blacker.

Also, turn on "dynamic brightness" ( a.k.a. "SmartContrast" ) 
using the On-Screen Display,
so darker screens are darker and videos are brighter.

> The dynamic option is typically used for video,
> and makes movies look better.

Interesting; I think it does, I'll leave it on.

> LED backlighting solutions should have a tremendous
> adjustment range . Unlike CCFL, they have no limitations
> on intensity.  Using PWM (pulse width modulation), you
> keep the current flow at a high level, and vary the
> percentage of the time that current is applied. The PWM
> clock could be running at 25KHz.  Frequencies like that
> are selected so the power circuits are not audible to humans.

Interesting.  
Varying the voltage is harder than switching it on+off, apparently.
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              Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
          Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
      Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhdadd$6lj$1@dont-email.me
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.16pm.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ m76 Top; 1.2 Days, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jul 25 {  4:16pm, 2019 }:29^(Seattle)  XΝϘЛ
      Better hardware doesn't always improve bad software.

I wrote:
> I'll be getting my new 150$ video card tomorrow, 
> so I can run 4K at 60 Hz, instead of 30 Hz 
> ( i.e. HDMI 2.0B, instead of 1.4 ).
> 
> The test will be to see how jumpy the scrolling is,
> in the Task Manager ( I don't play complex video games ).
> 
> If there's no improvement, then I'll return the card.
> Hopefully, that won't happen.
> https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B07QR2YFTX

I think I'll keep it, especially after 
running through the (scary) tests at "TestUFO.COM".

Task Manager's scrolling still looks like crap;
but there's probably nothing I can do about it; no big deal.
Better hardware doesn't always improve bad software.

Linus cares about FPS first, HDR second, resolution 3rd, and, finally,
screen size ( because he's sitting close to it ).
I think you need a 144 hertz monitor to scroll without jitter; see:
  http://TestUFO.COM/framerates-text

I like the size of my my 40 inch, 4k, 60 Hz, curved monitor; 
despite the largeness, some text is _ still too tiny to read,
and there's no (decent) way to increase the font size.

I recently added a 150 $ GTX 1650 graphics card
( instead of using my i7-5775c's iGPU ).  In Zoom Player,
MadVR now works, especially with LAV; so 4k 60 fps videos
Play/FastForward better than they did before.

My LAV Video Decoder has more optimization options now;
so CPU usage is down. Video game animation looks better.
My video editor, OpenShot, probably works better;
but I haven't tested it. 


BackLight bleeding is much, much worse now, for some reason;
50% Contrast with 50% Brightness seems to work best now.
Brightness is way up.

The GTX 1650 Aero ITX card doesn't fit properly in my Micro ATX box;
but, after removing the backplate, it sorta fits.

I ran "ctTune" ( ClearType Tuner ) again.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ubfmjed1prfi0gdt6lharppnngbl9d1kd4@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.07am.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  maimje9s0irbh3q02fi9qei9lakndnlind@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
    PeeScent  cdcg8c.kq9.19.2@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--4.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    --Robot, 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Jul 26 {  2:18pm, 2019 }:36^(-7)  XΞɝa
      This is why we can't have nice things.

PeeScent replied ( to me ):
> > I buy Bounty Select-A-Size Paper Towels,
> > 8 Triple Rolls ( == 24 Regular Rolls ), from WalMart, online.
> > 19.88$,  3 cents / SqFt.
> 
> I steal that stuff from public washrooms.

This is why we can't have nice things.

If it wasn't for people like you, PeeScent,
we could have strong+soft+absorbent paper towels in public restrooms.

China is using facial recognition to dispense paper towels;
but they don't give you enough; 
so you still have to carry around your own supply.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  3gcmje16du4kgnmolfp94sutvoninv25mj@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ubfmjed1prfi0gdt6lharppnngbl9d1kd4@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.07am.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  maimje9s0irbh3q02fi9qei9lakndnlind@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m213 Dropped; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jul 26 { 11:43am, 2019 }:18^(-4)  XΞȹɌ
      3 cents / SqFt, Paper Towels.

Greg:
> Paper towels and toilet paper I buy in those big twelve paks. 

I buy Bounty Select-A-Size Paper Towels, 
8 Triple Rolls ( == 24 Regular Rolls ), from WalMart, online.
19.88$,  3 cents / SqFt.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019
        Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-FB3FF9.10124326072019@reader.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.54am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qhfgjm$ttt$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--1.25pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m11 Cool; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 26 { 11:25am, 2019 }:58^(-4)  XΞȶɶ
      Dredd and Natalia Queen.

> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vaginal.Orgasm.mp4
> 
> One of your streetpeople tenants I presume?  
> I"m talking about the man, 

Actors: Dredd and Natalia Queen.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  3gcmje16du4kgnmolfp94sutvoninv25mj@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ubfmjed1prfi0gdt6lharppnngbl9d1kd4@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.07am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m97 Dropped; 7 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jul 26 { 10:51am, 2019 }:12^(-4)  XΞwΡ
      Vaseline and Paper Towels.

> > After applying the Vaseline, paper towels dry your hands.
> > No leaking, No mess.  Greasy Dick, Dry Hands.
> > 
> > If you feel like cuming a second time, leave it on, 
> > as your cum is a superb lube; otherwise, split it open,
> > wipe it down, and let it dry on its side.
> 
> Thanks, I think I'll order one...

Don't forget the Vaseline and paper towels;
lots of paper towels.
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              BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-FB3FF9.10124326072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.54am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m23 Dropped; 5.5 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 26 { 10:12am, 2019 }:52^(-7)  XΞqq
      Learn how to cum without much help.

Siri Cruise replied ( to me ):
> > I'm good at it, so it never breaks.
> 
> It's good to let all potential rejecting partners
> know that you can't tax a vacuum cleaner hose.

Learn how to cum without much help.

A _ vaginal orgasm:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vaginal.Orgasm.mp4
  [ 3+ minutes run-time, 680 MegaBytes, 4k ]

Legs+knees are key; see:

  " My First Orgasm - Kate Trower "
  http://Youtube.COM/watch?v=C7y_eOEM7i4

To orgasm faster, a woman's legs should be tense, not lax;
e.g. stiffly pointing one's legs in opposite directions.
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              BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  3gcmje16du4kgnmolfp94sutvoninv25mj@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m96 Dropped; 14.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jul 26 { 10: 3am, 2019 }:54^(-4)  XΞoϚ
      Greasy Dick, Dry Hands.

Greg replied ( to me ):
> So, it's some sort of silicone sleeve that
> is contained inside a plastic case that splits in two and
> is held closed by a clip and it somehow creates a suction 
> but you have to manually stroke it up and down ?

Yes.  

Press it once, manually, and you've got extreme suction;
there's a one-way valve.  

After that, you don't have to touch it at all, it just feels good;
you can just keep "edging" ( resisting the desire to stroke ).

> I don't really see how that's much 
> better than one's lubed-up hand ?????

After applying the Vaseline, paper towels dry your hands.
No leaking, No mess.  Greasy Dick, Dry Hands.

If you feel like cuming a second time, leave it on, 
as your cum is a superb lube; otherwise, split it open,
wipe it down, and let it dry on its side.

Toss the outer container, you don't need it.
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              BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
        Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-486042.00411726072019@reader.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.21am.Seattle.2019
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37a4cbd75826ecef797@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.11am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m184 Mad; 3.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jul 26 {  9:36am, 2019 }:10^(-7)  XΞkA
      Reaching for the nurse's tits.

> > A 90-year-old who acts like a like a drunk 15-year-old is just retarded.
> 
> Do people in their Nineties even remember what sex is?

Sex is the only thing they can remember.

I can see them now, reaching for the nurse's tits.
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              SamWormley  c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m95 Dropped; 16.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jul 26 {  9:23am, 2019 }:40^(-4)  XΞhტ
      The (naked) twist.

Greg replied ( to me ):
> > the 65$ White Tenga Flip Zero is best.
> > http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC
> 
> I clicked on the site and the reviews are
> not the greatest pertaining to durability.  
> 
> It could be that this is now a cheap Chinese knock off
> of the original as indicated in some reviews.  

No, it's the real deal, from Japan.
The electronic version is beyond "stupid"; 
and the black version is too hard on one's dick.

Even the white version can be hard on your dick;
Vaseline, and normal wear, make it smoother.
Ordinary lube is insane, I don't know why anyone uses it.

A flimsy clip holds the unit together, 
so it doesn't split in half ( for cleaning ).
It's tricky, and will break, if you're not careful.

I'm good at it, so it never breaks.

There is no seam at the base, where your cock enters;
so it never leaks.  One guy wrote: 
"I could do the (naked) twist and it wouldn't come off".
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              SamWormley  c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
    onion@anon_invalid(Mr_On!on  1obbd9b.1fwelle109484kN%onion@anon.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.32am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m5 Dropped; 8 Hours, MacSOUP➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 26 {  1:10am, 2019 }:29^(1)  XΝяЛ
      Only women like vibrators.

Onion replied ( to me ):
> > The 65$ White Tenga Flip Zero is best.
> > http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC
>  
> I can hear the buzz all the way over here, right now. 

Mine doesn't buzz.
I don't know why Tenga offers an "electronic" version,
only women like vibrators.  And it adds 110$ to the price.

The vibrating version does nothing but 
lower the star count in the reviews.
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              SamWormley  c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-486042.00411726072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.21am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m22 Dropped; 8.5 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 26 {   :41am, 2019 }:25^(-7)  XΝъდ
      Horny old men are pathetic, a dime a dozen.

Siri Cruise:
> What's the difference between MGTOW and Incel ?
> Whether women are still slapping you.

Horny old men are pathetic, a dime a dozen.

A 90-year-old who acts like a like a drunk 15-year-old is just retarded.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
            KenW│kenw@nono_net  jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019
        Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gpv0e4FqnrlU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--10.12pm.Seattle.2019
    Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gq0i6eF6ektU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.01am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    +-, 19.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET,  Jul 26 {  7:48am, 2019 }:47^(-5)  XΞSl
      I must've been hallucinating.

Rene replied ( to me ):
> > Why are you running such an ancient computer ?
> 
> Z390, i7 8700, is that ancient enough to qualify ?

Sorry, I must've been hallucinating.

> > What's your beef with me ?
> 
> No beef, I just think you're a little unwrapped.

Who isn't ?
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          SamWormley  c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m264 Mad; 9.1 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jul 25 {  2:25pm, 2019 }:21^(PDT)  XΝοɑ
      In America we rely on robots for our food, and our sex.

Bert:
> Wish I had a girlfriend to take a cold shower with.

That makes you an "InCel" ( Involuntary Celibate ), Bert;
I'm a "MGTOW" ( I _ choose to not have sex ).

I will _ not let a (fake) "wife" boss me around;
there's a million better ways to spend my time+money.

> at 91 should I by a 5 foot rubber doll? 
> Nay, that is a waste of $$$$.

In Calcutta you get the best food, and it costs almost nothing.
In America we rely on robots for our food, and our sex.

I've spent hundreds of dollars trying various masturbators;
the 65$ White Tenga Flip Zero is best.
http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC

The suction is mind-boggling; it never falls off,
nor does it ever leak, and you don't have to hold it,
it feels good just being attached, so one can edge for hours.

Initially, the clip was hard to put on,
but I've since mastered it.  And it's still working, 
despite 6+ months of using it-and-ONLY-it.

Vaseline is far-and-away the best lubricant;
I have no idea why anyone would recommend anything else,
-- and, no, it doesn't harm the device.

Paper towels keep my hands dry.

To clean it:  take off the clip, split it open,
wipe it down, and lay it on its side ( to dry ).

The outer-case is useless, I tossed it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
            Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
        KenW│kenw@nono_net  jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019
    Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_  gpv0e4FqnrlU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--10.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    +-, 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET,  Jul 25 {  5:39pm, 2019 }:32^(-5)  XΝϴν
      An unimaginably heavy Windows user+programmer ever since 1989.

Rene replied ( to me ):
> > You shouldn't worry about me.
> 
> Not to fear, I won't spend any time worrying about you.

What's your beef with me ?
Why are you in Hangzhou ?
Why are you running an ancient computer ?
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
            .  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
          .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
        .  jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhdn0a$sgk$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--7.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m13 Top; 52 Secs, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 25 {  7: 2pm, 2019 }:50^(-4)  XΝВʪ
      Call me crazy+insane but...

Paul replied ( to me ):
> > You shouldn't worry about me.
> 
> Our main concern here, is you don't give people
> ideas that they can't handle.
> 
> For example, you might get away with renaming the
> kernel to "barney", but no one else will.

Call me crazy+insane but... I've no use for library folders;
"customizing" ( i.e. assigning a type to, e.g. video ) 
folders is a good idea.

Most of my executables are installed under "C:\__\EXEs",
as "C:\__" my primary folder.

My Firefox "profile", which often gets backed up, daily or more,
is kept in  "C:\__\FF".

(Sloppy) Programs that don't let me set the location 
of the settings folders fall under "C:\__\Sys\AppData" (%LocalAppData%)
-- because they MUST be children of my parent folder, "C:\__".

My source code is in "C:\__\_Source",
my videos are in "C:\__\mp4",
my music is in "C:\__\mp3",
my taskbar items are in "C:\__\TaskBar",
my temporary files are in "C:\__\Tmp",
my Startup items are in "C:\__\Startup",
my speech recognition data+settings are in "C:\__\Relf_Speak",
my .PNG+.JPG files are in "C:\__\Pics",
and I don't want other programs to be messing with them, 
nor do I want them to even know about them, without my explicit consent.

And so on, and so on, with many other child folders.
I do not use the "desktop" folder; I (almost) never see it.

C:
CD           C:\__\Sys\AppData\LGHUB
RoboCopy  .  A:\__\Sys\AppData\LGHUB   /R:0  /NDL  /S  /B  /mir  /J  /NJH  /NJS  /NP  /UNILOG:C:\__\X\__.TXT
CD           C:\__\mp4
REM  Note videos, don't back them up:
RoboCopy  .  A:\__\mp4   /L  /mir  /NDL  /NJH  /NJS  /NP  /UNILOG:..\X\mp4.TXT
CD           C:\__
RoboCopy  .  A:\__   /R:0  /XF  __.TXT  *.mp4  *.MKV  *.WebM  /XD   Sys    Tmp Del *[rarbg] *TileDataLayer *Packages *vs *EXE *Recent *IE-Tmp *Windows  /NDL  /S  /B  /mir  /J  /NJH  /NJS  /NP  /UNILOG+:C:\__\X\__.TXT
C:\__\X\__.TXT
exit
REM  Sys   ( Don't exlude: "*Microsoft" )   help  RoboCopy
REM  /L  = ListOnly  /R:0 = No Retries.  /B = Backing up, override permissions. /S = Ignore Empty Folders.  /NDL = No Directory Listing.  /NJH  /NJS = No Header/Footer.   /J = No Buffering.  /NP = Don't log %done.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--7.00pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  qhceap$smk$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Arindam_Banerjee│  9e9ba376-a340-4880-be9b-ea2ddc4bcc4c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--6.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m14 Dropped; 17.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jul 25 {  5:39pm, 2019 }:14^(PDT)  XΝϴΤ
      Without robots, making our food, we'd be lost.

Arindam Banerjee:
> Kolkata has great food and fun, very cheap. 
> It has electricity and Internet, warm weather. 
> What more can one want ?

The fine dining, at a ultra cheap price, 
would go away if they had a 15$/hour minimum wage,
like we do, here in Seattle.

Without robots, making our food, we'd be lost.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019
            Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
        Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
    KenW│kenw@nono_net  jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m7 Cool; 45.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Giganews.COM,  Jul 25 {  3:33pm, 2019 }: 4^(-6)  XΝϐΙ
      An unimaginably heavy Windows user+programmer ever since 1989.

KenW replied ( to me ):
> > I prefer my own special backup system.
> 
> I am going to keep this post because I will wait for your help message

You shouldn't worry about me.
I've been an unimaginably heavy Windows user+programmer ever since 1989.
I was programing MicroSoft DOS boxen, professionally, back in 1983.

Here's a screenshot of my YouTube comment history in Firefox v67,
Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019
            Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
        Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhdadd$6lj$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 8  m197 Top; 19 Secs, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 25 {  3:27pm, 2019 }:58^(-4)  XΝωϞ
      I'm 100% content with my custom backup system.

Paul,

I'm 100% content with my custom backup system.

I've no desire to back up "the MBR, the PBR, and so on";
nor do I desire a "1903 installer DVD".

I have a 128 gig, bootable USB drive 
( mostly used to _ occasionally mirror my files+settings ).
Vital Files are backed up to my FTP server ( in Anaheim CA ).

P.S.  Recently, Linus Tech Tips convinced me that 
a higher refresh rate is worth the money.

So I'll be getting my new 150$ video card tomorrow, 
so I can run 4K at 60 Hz, instead of 30 Hz 
( i.e. HDMI 2.0B, instead of 1.4 ).

The test will be to see how jumpy the scrolling is,
in the Task Manager ( I don't play complex video games ).

If there's no improvement, then I'll return the card.
Hopefully, that won't happen.

https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B07QR2YFTX
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--7.00pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  qhceap$smk$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qhcfc1$11ed$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--3.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m32 Cool; 3.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 25 {  7:46am, 2019 }:15^(-5)  XΝʓϽ
      Diseases roiling through camps.

Only puppies get rescued, not human strays.
As America devolves into Calcutta, 
China takes our previous glory.

"Strays" can join a communal tent ( in a Metro camp ),
and harass people for money ( with impunity ).
Imagine the diseases roiling through these camps.

Meanwhile, our politicians are confined to simpler ideas;
like "Nazi Racist", and "AntiFa".
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              Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019
        Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
    Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 4  m35 Cool; 45 Minutes, tin➤CygWin, Individual.NET,  Jul 25 {   :46pm, 2019 }:30  XΝΧМ
      I manually removed|renamed all "Library" folders.

Frank replied ( to me ):
> In the 'Library locations' box, you can define
> to which *folderS* (one or more) your library points.

Zero or More.
I manually removed all of the "Library" folders;
and I renamed all of its subfolders.

How this will affect my next major (version) update ?

Thank you for telling me about "Libraries" and 
"optimizing/customizing" a folder for (e.g.) videos.
Normally, I ignore+hide the navigation pane.

> the File History backup mechanism.

I prefer my own special backup system.
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              Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  1c7fjepq83bv3j97c48mehsun2rkr6tg1d@4ax.com
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qh8f43$19v$2@dont-email.me
          Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019
    Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 2  m32 Cool; 3.4 Hours, tin➤CygWin, Individual.NET,  Jul 25 {  8: 8am, 2019 }: 4  XΝʗɼ
      " The Properties of the *library* 'Documents' " ?

Frank replied ( to me ):
> > I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
> > as that's what I always call it.  Unless+Until I do that,
> > many programs can't find my settings.
> 
> If you change the Properties of the *library* 'Documents' not to point
> to the *folder* 'Documents', but to your 'Sys' folder, you shouldn't
> have to change anything.

" The Properties of the *library* 'Documents' " ?
I don't know how to do whatever it is you're trying to suggest.

I run Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition.
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              Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  1c7fjepq83bv3j97c48mehsun2rkr6tg1d@4ax.com
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qh8f43$19v$2@dont-email.me
          Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019
    KenW│kenw@nono_net  14sijetfbe2hrppfncc8okpl4v1reoo6jr@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.51am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m5 Cool; 9.3 Hours, F_Agent, Giganews.COM,  Jul 25 {  2:11am, 2019 }:35^(-6)  XΝɛო
      1903-type updates destroy some of my settings.

KenW replied ( to me ):
> > I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
> > as that's what I always call it.  Unless+Until I do that,
> > many programs can't find my settings.
> 
> Win 10 does not like that.

I run that way all the time, no problems;
a 1903-type updates destroy some of my settings, 
but I can live with it.

From "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT":

;  SystemWide  Environment Variables:
;    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Environment
;      "TMP"="%SystemRoot%\\Tmp"
;  Reqires a ReBoot.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Volatile Environment]
"USERPROFILE"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"HOMEPATH"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"APPDATA"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"LOCALAPPDATA"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"

;  Switch SysFolders to Short, Friendly Paths, all under "C:\__" ( Home ).
;
;  First, "RightClick Properties -> Location -> Move" each special folder.
;  Make Sure "MyDocumentsLocation", "Shell Folders"/"Personal",
;  and "User Shell Folders"/"Personal" ( below ) agree with each other.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\15.0]
"MyDocumentsLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"VisualStudioLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Microsoft\\VisStudio"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup"
"SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo"
"AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp"
"Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop"
"PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood"
"NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood"
"Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies"
"Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent"
"Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu"
"Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs"
"History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History"
"Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates"
"Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders]
"Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup"
"SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo"
"AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp"
"Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop"
"PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood"
"NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood"
"Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies"
"Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent"
"Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu"
"Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs"
"History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History"
"Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates"
"Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"

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July 25, 2019   Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
      Vaginal Orgasm.

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              MrDFS  IjH6E.385914$JW5.292576@fx46.iad
            Owl  xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid
          MrDFS  9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
      Owl  s8z0b8083t.a3u3j@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  8a31293f-e254-49d1-aa2a-9b34cca9e776@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--10.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m255 Mad; 4.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Feb  7 { 10:20am, 2019 }:13^(PST)  XɄΘʅ
      Getting laid, like Mr. Owl.

Steve Carroll replied:
> > > I've been 240 pounds for many years now ( 6ft, 60 years old ).
> 
> 215 pounds (6ft.)  I look like a rail at 183.

To get laid, like Mr. Owl, I'd have to fix my teeth, dress nicer/cleaner, 
lose 90 lbs, do push-ups, and find a more prestigious, higher paying job.

Even then, I'd have to pay for it, and let her fuck 20 year-olds too.

She'd boss me around, and the sex would be horrible compared to:

  Tenga's "Flip Zero" latches on and won't let go, 
  so you can edge for 5+ HOURS,
  even when you're distracted by something else.

  And it feels good after nutting too -- so even a 60 year-old man, like me,
  nuts multiple times.  Vaseline is the best lube.  It never leaks; no mess.
  When done, open it up, wipe it down with a paper towel, and lay it on its side.

  Once dry, put it back in its case, so it stays clean.
  If this product doesn't take over the world, the world is wrong.
■
    Hitler│hitler@nazi-america_com  cc9ijedurbvca88l9a6kqppc75hftnb9cu@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 24 {  8:44pm, 2019 }:29^(-5)  XΝbʕ
      Welcome to Calcutta.

> Welcome to NAZI AMERICA !!!!

It looks more like Calcutta to me.
Welcome to Calcutta.
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              Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  vu0fjedmecmnu7n09ovegf64iqamg7glb0@4ax.com
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qh83c9$gbg$1@dont-email.me
          Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  1c7fjepq83bv3j97c48mehsun2rkr6tg1d@4ax.com
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qh8f43$19v$2@dont-email.me
      Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com  4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 4  m192 Top; 3.1 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 24 {  7: 3pm, 2019 }:37^(-4)  XΝKς
      Windows Update never works for me.

Windows Update never works for me; when I try to use it,
it's ultra-miserable, with MULTIPLE SLOW, FAILING REBOOTS.

So I think it's best to never use it;
I turn off those services.

Downloading 1903, for example, works well enough for me;
it takes an hour or so to set up correctly afterwards,
but it's not too bad.

I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
as that's what I always call it.  Unless+Until I do that,
many programs can't find my settings.

I think I have to restore from my backups, at times.

Also, I have to re-take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-,
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
Re-Merge-In my settings ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT ), 
check for updates, ReBoot.

Also, I have to re-format all of my File-Explorer folders,
so they look the way I want -- very annoying.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--7.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      America is devolving into Calcutta.

America is devolving into Calcutta.
Yet no presidential candidate mentions it.
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
            .  qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me
          .  ci9bje57e57uqrlnvh0i60qesku2dcsmkf@4ax.com
        .  28243c50-bc8f-4d26-8873-ca7eb905a1d6@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.54am.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  1f70e7b4-1526-4cb4-815f-98ecb7dfda33@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--3.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m78 Top; 31.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul 23 {  2:33pm, 2019 }: 3^(PDT)  XΜɟΘ
      One should always think with the larger head, not the smaller one.

Mr AA replied ( to me ):
> Come on, Jeff.  You have been able to slip out 
> of that child support noose pretty easily!

I was describing the recent bout of fake marriages here in America,
not my situation, back in 1988 -- although there are similarities.

I got off pretty unscathed myself;
nevertheless, I would never do it again,
-- it was a huge, dumb mistake -- I was _ extremely naïve.
One should always think with the larger head, not the smaller one.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019
            MsNadegda  qh3no3$lt5$36@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.25am.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qh5ir3$tmd$10@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--8.33pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qh6a1t$tmd$29@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--1.02am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m378 Mad; 1.3 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 22 { 11:38pm, 2019 }:53  XΛрʭ
      Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > The emergency room has to take you in and,
> > if you can't afford to pay, you you simply fill out some paperwork,
> > and that's it -- it doesn't even show up on your credit report.
> 
> Debt debt debt, debt, debt, debt debt debt ...

No, it's written off; the patient owes nothing.

> > Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America,
> > while a rapist jumps the wall, sells methamphetamines,
> > and gets free healthcare.
> > 
> > You only want rapists, not doctors.
> > Also, you're a blatant scofflaw.
> 
> Blatant Scofflaw, Jeff Relf, only wants rapists, not doctors.

How do you figure ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019
            Kensi  qh3bd2$p9$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qh3no3$lt5$36@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.25am.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qh5ir3$tmd$10@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--8.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 8  m377 Mad; 3.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 22 {  5: 2pm, 2019 }:43  XΛϠʣ
      Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors.
> 
> Already refuted a thousand times.

Really ? I must've missed it.

> > The poorest person in America is damn rich;
> > he can get the best medical care and pay nothing.
> 
> If you believe that, you simply don't live 
> on planet Earth; so I can't help you.  <snicker>

The emergency room has to take you in and,
if you can't afford to pay, you you simply fill out some paperwork,
and that's it -- it doesn't even show up on your credit report.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019
            MsNadegda  qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me
      MrChrisV  ci9bje57e57uqrlnvh0i60qesku2dcsmkf@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  28243c50-bc8f-4d26-8873-ca7eb905a1d6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.54am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m9 Top; 3.9 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jul 22 {  5:35am, 2019 }: 7^(PDT)  XΛɽс
      Puppies get rescued, not "stray humans".

Hugh Huntzinger:
> Given that the kids were born here, they're 100% US Citizens
> with all of the rights and long term demographic implications thereof. 

Which means ugly old men, with absolutely no personality,
are getting fooled by their (supposed) "wives",
leaving them with nothing but a child support obligation.

There's an army of enforcers to ensure that his paycheck+BankAccount
get attached; -- none of it is ever forgiven, not even if he's
a prisoner of war, fighting for America, in Iraq.

Failure to comply results in indefinite jail time;
if you don't pay, you must stay -- especially if she gets welfare.

And what of the kids from these wonderful "marriages" ?
Puppies get rescued, not "stray humans".
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
            MsNadegda  qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  qh3bd2$p9$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qh3no3$lt5$36@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.25am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m380 Mad; 9.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 22 {   :14am, 2019 }:11  XΛȾʃ
      Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > Ridiculously High minimum wages put people out of work,
> 
> [ my propaganda ] debunks that.

While the overall unemployment rate is under 4%, 
the rate for those who earn minimum wage is about 13%.

They deserve, and will get, a higher hourly rate ( 15+$/hr );
but everyone is scrambling to avoid paying them,
via boycotting [**], automation, and imports.
  [ **: I don't eat out, not even at McDonald's ]

In Vietnam, where wages are much lower,
street vendors provide high-quality, ultra-cheap food,
-- something Americans can only dream about.

What's more, they keep the place clean.

The Congressional Budget office (CBO):

  Many studies have found little or no effect
  of minimum wages on employment, but many others 
  have found substantial reductions in employment.
               [...]
  under the $15 option [...] CBO estimates that there is about 
  a two-thirds chance that the change in employment would 
  lie between about zero and a reduction of 3.7 million workers.
                     [...]
  the $15 option would reduce total real ( inflation-adjusted ) 
  family income in 2025 by $9 billion, or 0.1 percent.
  [...] mainly affecting low-income families.

  http://CBO.GOV/Publication/55410

> > > > Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America,
> > > > while a rapist from Mexico gets in immediately.

The rapist just jumps the wall, sells methamphetamines,
and gets free healthcare, same as everyone else in America, who can't pay.
And he's totally under the radar, we can't hardly track him.

You only want rapists, not doctors.
Also, you're a blatant scofflaw.

> > > > receiving free healthcare+housing+food

The poorest person in America is damn rich;
he can get the best medical care and pay nothing.

If you believe otherwise, 
you simply don't live on planet Earth;
so I can't help you.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019
            MsNadegda  qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qh3bd2$p9$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m203 Mad; 4.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 21 {  8:43pm, 2019 }:29^(2)  XΛbə
      Ridiculously High minimum wages put people out of work.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > A ridiculously high minimum wage puts people out of work;
> 
> The article Nadegda linked to debunks that. You didn't read it, did you? 
> You just read the headline and immediately started frothing.

I read the whole thing, slowly.

The 70 year chart of government deficits intrigued me the most;
I was shocked at how accurately it tracked my/our fortunes in life;
the higher the deficit spending, the worst things are/were.

Interest rates appear to track oil prices, after smoothing.

Ridiculously High minimum wages put people out of work, 
including automation and imports; I see it firsthand, all the time.

I could show you countless case studies, proving it,
but I don't feel the need, 
as it's beyond obvious to anybody with a working brain ( not you ).

> Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America while a rapist
> from Mexico gets in immediately,

[citation NOT needed]

> receiving free healthcare+housing+food

[citation NOT needed]
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            MsNadegda  qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-AEB37F.16012521072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m117 Dropped; 2.3 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 21 {  4: 1pm, 2019 }:34^(-7)  XΚწɞ
      Does Siri Cruise love rapists, hate doctors, or both ?

Siri Cruise replied ( to me ):
> > Those who come from afar, to break United States' laws,
> > SHOULD go to prison, right ?  otherwise, why do we have laws ?!
> 
> And why waste time on a trial when they're obvious guilty?

How is it that Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America
while a rapist from Mexico gets in immediately, 
receiving free healthcare+housing+food, etc. ?

Do you love rapists, hate doctors, or both ?
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            MsNadegda  qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m376 Mad; 3.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 21 {  2:42pm, 2019 }:51  XΚჟp
      People rescue stray dogs and spit on the homeless.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > Those who come from afar, to break United States' laws,
> > SHOULD go to prison, right ?  otherwise, why do we have laws ?!
> 
> Seeking asylum is not a violation of our laws, right-winger.

Stop fooling yourself.  How is it that Asian doctors have to
wait 9 years to work in America while a rapist from Mexico 
gets in immediately, receiving free healthcare+housing+food, etc. ?

Do you love rapists, hate doctors, or both ?
 
> > You're the fascist, not me.
> > 
> > " Duped academic journal publishes 
> >   a rewrite of 'Mein Kampf' as a feminist manifesto "
> > https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/
> > 
> >   the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal 
> >   terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was 
> >   evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers.  
> > 
> > Thought precedes action.
> 
> Incorrect.  You support the camps.  That makes you the fascist.

I looked up "Nazi Fascist" in the dictionary, your photo was there.

To your credit, at least you're not hiding it; 
so you're not fooling anyone ( for money );
e.g. pretending to be a meek "wife" and then turning on him.

> > Inflation is merely another (regressive) tax.
> > You've never met a tax that you didn't like, right kooky ? 

[crickets]

Cheap oil is keeping inflation low.
A ridiculously high minimum wage puts people out of work;
I've seen it, here in Seattle.  I don't eat out, that's for sure.

If there were no minimum wage, I'd be eating out every day,
employing people, left, right, and center.

Lower housing standards,
and everyone would have an affordable place to live.

People rescue stray dogs and spit on the homeless.
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        MsNadegda  qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m374 Mad; 1.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 21 {  2:13pm, 2019 }:21  XΚლɑ
      Inflation is a _ good thing ?

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > Today, males are pilloried the same way the Jews were
> > in Nazi Germany, right before the concentration camps.
> 
> I've got news for you, chucklefuck: the concentration camps 
> are already up and running, and it's Latinx people being 
> imprisoned in them, not white men. 

Those who come from afar, to break United States' laws,
go to prison, right ?  otherwise, why do we have laws ? !

> Get rid of your stupid persecution complex and look at
> who the real fascists, and their real victims, are!

You're the fascist, not me.

" Duped academic journal publishes 
  a rewrite of 'Mein Kampf' as a feminist manifesto "
https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/

  the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal 
  terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was 
  evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers.  

Thought precedes action.

> > Now we have Ms Nadegda advocating inflation,
> 
> MID, kooky?

qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me

There, you advocate lowering interest rates 
because inflation is a _ good thing ( read the article ).

Trouble is inflation is merely another (regressive) tax.
You've never met a tax that you didn't like, right kooky ? 
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    MsNadegda  qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m375 Mad; 7.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 20 { 10:23pm, 2019 }:15  XΚʭщ
      99% of men should not be having sex.

Today, males are pilloried the same way the Jews were
in Nazi Germany, right before the concentration camps.

Kick out your best+brightest, like Nazi Germany+Venezuela,
and you get hyperinflation, chaos.

Now we have Ms Nadegda advocating inflation,
which is a tax on the weakest+poorest.

People are gaming the system; guys exploit young woman
whose credit history hasn't been soiled yet;
-- she gets (fleeting) money, and he gets (fleeting) sex.

A fake wife gets you a real child support obligation;
and we get more human "strays" running around, homeless.
Bottom line:  99% of men should not be having sex.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Seattle.House.Prices.PNG
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019
          Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-1BC8C9.15015718072019@reader.eternal-september.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--5.45pm.Seattle.2019
      BranimirMaksimovic  nIbYE.530389$sJ3.324214@fx04.am4
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-748C37.23072718072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.19--3.15am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m127 Dropped; 3.7 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 18 { 11: 7pm, 2019 }:35^(-7)  XΙzɟ
      Proud whores, Siri+Branimir.

Siri+Branimir replied ( to me ):
> > > I choose to _ not have sex, never.
> > > I will _ not allow a woman to boss me around; 
> > > nor will I let her steal my time+money.
> > 
> > you probably have to pay for sex...
> 
> Plus hazard pay.

Such proud whores you are !
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-1BC8C9.15015718072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--5.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m129 Dropped; 2.4 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 18 {  3: 2pm, 2019 }: 5^(-7)  XΘტɽ
      I choose to _ not have sex, never.

Siri Cruise replied ( to me ):
> The incel leading the incels.

I choose to _ not have sex, never.
I will _ not allow a (fake) "wife" boss me around; 
there's a million ways to better spend my time+money.

I'm just trying to correct some myths about the female orgasm;
too many "experts" are clueless about it,
and they don't know how to do it vaginally.

YouTube comments won't let me post this info;
so I posted it here instead.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  q3j1je1071l91j8om9qtrui0r5d485v7g2@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m334 Dropped; 8.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jul 18 {   :48pm, 2019 }:21^(-4)  XΘьL
      Vaginal Orgasm.

Greg replied ( to me ):
> vaginal sex is only for reproductive purposes.

Is that why you have sex with men ?
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              .  CNpXE.46156$Yu7.21648@fx41.iad
            JohnSefton  89fcca0d-6450-4f66-a5da-8479b03c7301@googlegroups.com
          Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gpa6ujFbjnmU1@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.01am.Seattle.2019
      Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gparvsFfrokU1@mid.individual.net
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qgq4g2$1b73$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--10.51am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m193 Mad; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 18 {  8:50am, 2019 }:16^(-5)  XΘФʈ
      Detachment and Depression.

Sylvia Else wrote:
> Be aware of long term systemic drugs "side effects" drs are pushing on
> older people, part of obamacare and recomended by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel,
> which cause people to "get out" earlier, saving the GOV billions in
> medicare, Social Security, and other Gov Services.
> It is going on now, folks.

You're preaching to the choir. 
I haven't spent a dime on healthcare, last 30+ years.
No health insurance, nothing.

I've never felt like doctors knew what they were doing.
The biggest health problems we face today are 
those affecting our youth: detachment and depression.

The more oxygen you breathe, the sooner you'll die.

  Goolge: oxidative-stress, case-studies.
  Quoting " Oxidative Stress and the Aging Brain ", Dr. Riddle, 2007.
  ncbi.nlm.NIH.GOV/books/NBK3869/

    Currently, one of the most plausible and acceptable 
    explanations for the mechanistic basis of aging is 
    the " free radical theory of aging " ...

    The origin of this explanation has a foundation in 
    the " rate of living theory " [ Pearl ], 
    according to which, the lifespan of an individual depends on
    its rate of energy utilization ( metabolic rate ) ... 

    Pearl proposed that the longevity of an organism 
    is inversely correlated to its mass-specific 
    metabolic rate: increasing an organism’s metabolic 
    rate will decrease longevity, whereas factors that 
    decrease the metabolic rate will increase longevity ... 

    birds have a low rate of free radical production
    in brain and in other tissues [ increasing their longevity ]
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        .  CNpXE.46156$Yu7.21648@fx41.iad
      JohnSefton  89fcca0d-6450-4f66-a5da-8479b03c7301@googlegroups.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gpa6ujFbjnmU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.01am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m6 Top; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jul 17 {  8:21pm, 2019 }:52^(10)  XΘʙϘ
      Be Grateful.

Sylvia:
> If things [antibiotics] continue the way they are, 
> the only surgery people will risk having is life-saving.
> Forget hip replacements, etc.

The trick is to be grateful for what little 
you have ( longevity, health, money, etc. ).
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.379719eb1efdffc060b@news.altopia.com
            MsNadegda  qgl9tc$5qb$28@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3797dec34b4f022662c@news.altopia.com
        Pandora│pandora@peak_org  cckbv5.dt1.19.2@news.alt.net
      MsNadegda  qgnr4i$5qb$64@dont-email.me
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.379967092b8ca7466f@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--7.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m805 Mad; 1.1 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jul 17 {  6:11pm, 2019 }: 6^(-7)  XΘʃр
      A colony for AOC and Ms Nadegda ?

Maybe we should create a colony for AOC, Ms Nadegda, 
and Million-Women-Marchers -- a real matriarchy.
Brazil has lots of land, I hear.
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              Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  3f830g-jsm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            Andy_Burns│usenet@andyburns_uk  gp90l3F3n8fU1@mid.individual.net
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  ko440g-a0c.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  170720191446303505%nospam@nospam.invalid
      Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  39e40g-l2k.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgo5eu$fc2$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m216 Mad; 2.5 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 17 {  2:54pm, 2019 }:39^(-4)  XΘɣd
      I recently bought a TP-Link AC1750 (58$) Wi-Fi router.

I recently bought a TP-Link AC1750 (58$) Wi-Fi router:
    https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B079JD7F7G

4 GigaBit LAN ports.  Separately, I have 8-port switches.
2'500 SqFt of WiFi Coverage.
3 "high-gain" antennas and "strong" amplifiers.
Connects to 50+ devices.  OpenWRT _ can be loaded on it.

It's for my tenants, and they haven't said anything; 
so I don't really know if it's any good or not.
Amazon recommended it, in the "budget" category.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3797212ec709e0b0616@news.altopia.com
            MsNadegda  qglaa5$5qb$32@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3797dfb1a7613c6262f@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qglv1h$5qb$52@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37983993863d5d3265a@news.altopia.com
    Kensi  qgm6js$1f09$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--5.01am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m202 Mad; 7.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 16 {  9: 2pm, 2019 }:  ^(2)  XΗЦɸ
      Be happy with what you got, and give more.

Kensi:
> Libtard's question is *still* unanswered ...

Be happy with what you got, and give more.

If protesters did that, leading by example, there'd be 
less depression, less detachment, and fewer heroin deaths.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  LJ9XE.77436$SH.77138@fx03.iad
            MsNadegda  qgjcru$5qb$23@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.49am.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qgl9vk$5qb$29@dont-email.me
      Klaus_Schadenfreude│  d3nsie11s20jsialtt14sjjioc89bjj35n@4ax.com
    MsNadegda  qglujf$5qb$49@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 10  m339 Mad; 16.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 16 {  6:45pm, 2019 }:19  XΗϿΩ
      Ms Nadegda melted.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Klaus ):
> > > > Trump 2024.
> > >
> > > Term limits, kooktard. Term limits.
> > 
> > A packed Supreme Court and Constitutional Amendments, kooktard.
> 
> Try it, and we'll open the fourth box of liberty all over your punk-ass.

Who triggered the left-wing snowflake ?

I think she melted.
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              Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  smjrvf-ks6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  7hrsvf-gm6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  s6g00g-7cb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgkbg5$kd1$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--2.33pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qglhdm$rlc$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--4.25pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m211 Mad; 25.3 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 16 {  3:  pm, 2019 }:22^(-4)  XΗυM
      Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer ?

Paul replied ( to me ):
> > Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer, or some such ?
> 
> I'm too lazy to do stuff like that.
> https://www.raymond.cc/blog/6-free-portable-file-managers-quicker-file-operations/

OK, I was hoping you'd have a better alternative, but you don't;
so I'll stick with Windows File Explorer.
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              Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  lekpvf-5uc.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgd8l0$o5k$1@dont-email.me
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  smjrvf-ks6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  7hrsvf-gm6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
      Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  s6g00g-7cb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgkbg5$kd1$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--2.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╳ m210 Mad; 10.2 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 16 {  4:13am, 2019 }: 8^(-4)  XΗɰȺ
      Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer ?

Paul,

Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer, or some such ?

If so, what do you recommend ?
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              Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.37965b3f31170fb198a310@news.eternal-september.org
            TheSnitBot  gp42i9F163qU20@mid.individual.net
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  ZT4XE.42098$XI3.6899@fx39.iad
        TheSnitBot  gp4a8uF30hlU1@mid.individual.net
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  LJ9XE.77436$SH.77138@fx03.iad
    MsNadegda  qgjcru$5qb$23@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.49am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m313 Mad; 12 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 15 {  7:30pm, 2019 }:22  XΗPM
      Trump 2024.

Trump 2024.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
            Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad
          SteveCarroll  56096d9b-5213-4b24-b78d-aaa80fc7be17@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.16pm.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  c67ab165-962c-40b3-8f84-e866235cce50@googlegroups.com
    MrChrisV  42hrie1niufah9rtgeeehf4jftvsc7d6m8@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--6.23am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m173 Dropped; 33.5 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 16 {  5:35am, 2019 }:38^(-5)  XΗɽრ
      Expensive monitors.

MrChrisV wrote:
> Relf's monitor is actually a TV, I think.  
> Has he bothered to clarify that, in all of this whining?

No, it's a 978$ monitor ( 2+ years ago ), not a cheap TV.

Philips bdm4037uw, 4k, 40", 25 lbs, mounted on a long-high monitor arm.
I've had a 4K monitor for 5+ years now.

I'm thinking of buying yet another one, for a higher refresh rate,
but I'd have to buy a new CPU+motherboard as well,
and I'm worried that the economy may be tanking soon.

Also, I can't decide what size I want.

> "'Easy to read' is good for TV, not computer science."  -  Jeff Relf

Amen brother, Preach it !
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              Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qgi0gk.6ig.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--6.20am.Seattle.2019
          default│default@defaulter_net  1h6pie10o12bsiplbmn0bbqu1k368t46g2@4ax.com
        Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  lsg00g-7cb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
      default│default@defaulter_net  3u5rie93ctoolervu8jc9b3aqql3vbuu36@4ax.com
    Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  0jr00g-m8j.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--6.04am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m50 Cool; 44.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET,  Jul 16 {  5:12am, 2019 }:48^(2)  XΗɺm
      My computer never sleeps.

Yes, Carlos, my computer never sleeps.

I put my monitor to sleep so that there's no light, no back-lighting.

My computer draws a few watts, and
the CPU/GPU is slightly above room temperature.
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    Moderator│moderator@alt_comp_  ee3qie5b1o6f2ge4i141qg6r7mvefno853@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--5.49am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 11.9 Hours, F_Agent, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 15 {  4:36pm, 2019 }: 9^(-5)  XΖჲ9
      Everyone is detached and depressed; voting is a joke.

AntiFa's lover wrote:
> If you're not white. GET LOST.....

I'm more red, less blue-green, RGB( 255, 224, 189 ); OK ?

> If you're a Democrat or Independent, GET LOST.....

Everyone is detached and depressed; voting is a joke.
Earning/Spending less is the easiest, 
most effective way to avoid taxes+regulations.

This time around, I think "The Depression" 
will be more mental than physical.

> If you're not an American citizen, GET LOST.....

Life is not a "True or False" test.
Single bit, binary thinking will get you nowhere.

> If you're a Homosexual, GET LOST.....

You don't like artists ? no music ?
White's learn from Blacks, men learn from women, and vice versa.
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG

> If you're not a Christian, GET LOST.....

Buddha was Christlike, and that was more than enough.

> Only Trump supporters should be allowed to own
> and/or use computers.

Lipservice is not "support".

> Niggers, Spics, Gooks, Chinks, Japs, Muslims, Athiests. 
> Faggots, Queers, Butt fuckers, Homos, Lesbians, Transexuals, 
> Liberals, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, and illegal aliens.

Gay.
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              HerbertGlazier  00f3ff99-6dab-4034-a945-560429881be6@googlegroups.com
            MrAA  e865c0b0-a67b-4c69-94a8-a0d454c381ef@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  1c291286-82b4-46f1-b68c-c0e34f41b4f0@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  93b0fea6-26f1-4a0c-bccd-2ec776111343@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  b1d3dd3c-dfe7-4363-bde0-417d52af8575@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  42dfb9bc-a91c-4df4-b03e-ff1a488b6fc3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--4.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m64 Top; 20.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul 15 {  3:52pm, 2019 }:23^(PDT)  XΖცЕ
      The S&P 500 index looks more like a mountain than a valley.

MrAA:
> The stock market money keeps rolling in too.
> I guess I am playing that right.
> Have a lifetime of experience there.

The S&P 500 index looks more like a mountain than a valley;
i.e. it's more likely to fall than climb.

Rents in Portland are falling.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
        .  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
    Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_  qgi0gk.6ig.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--6.20am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 53.4 Minutes, tin➤CygWin, Individual.NET,  Jul 15 {  4:57am, 2019 }: 9  XΖϟΞ
      I might have to upgrade my CPU+motherboard.

Frank replied ( to me ):
> > No one knows how to stop the mouse 
> > from accidentally waking the monitor;
> > apparently, it can't be done.
> 
> AFAIK, the 'powercfg' command can solve your problem.
> " powercfg /devicequery wake_armed " 

"wake_armed" returns just: " HID Keyboard Device (001) ";
i.e. hitting the keyboard will wake my computer.

> a mouse movement should no longer wake the computer/monitor.

It's become apparent to me that waking the monitor
is not the same thing as waking the computer;
there are settings for the latter, but not the former.

A mouse button toggles my monitor "off/on" (sleep/wake);
when a random bump wakes my monitor, my code turns it off again.

But, with DisplayPort, "sleep" is no different than "unplugged";
so I get blasted by a bright "no signal" message,
right when I'm trying to relax.

Hopefully, switching to a HDMI v2 cable will solve my problem; 
I'll know later this week, when it arrives.

My iGPU, the Core-i7-5775c, stops at HDMI v1.4;
so I might have to upgrade my CPU+motherboard.
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            ScottDoty  govhvtF1aajU1@mid.individual.net
          Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgeu0h$91t$1@dont-email.me
        ScottDoty  gp28f7Fjde4U1@mid.individual.net
      ScottDoty  gp2ch9Fjde4U2@mid.individual.net
    ScottDoty  gp2ct5Fjde4U3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m7 Top; 31.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 {  9:14pm, 2019 }:29  XΖʢʕ
      Why run Linux on Windows on Linux ?

Scott:
> I need to be running Virtualbox 6 
> to have a HyperV virt run inside it.

Why run Linux on Windows on Linux ?
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              Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
          Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad
        SteveCarroll  56096d9b-5213-4b24-b78d-aaa80fc7be17@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.16pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  c67ab165-962c-40b3-8f84-e866235cce50@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.42pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m123 Cool; 6.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jul 14 {  9:11pm, 2019 }:40^(PDT)  XΖʡტ
      A button press would be much easier, and more reliable.

There's no "don't wake the monitor" setting, Steve.
"don't wake Windows" is completely different. 

I have a clunky solution already: 

  I turn my monitor towards the ceiling, away from me.

Your solution is ALSO clunky.

I would much rather have a software solution.

> you care more about the solution being button-launched 
> than you care about "trying to sleep".

A button press would be much easier, and more reliable,
were it possible.

As I said, over and over again, it's not BIG problem, Snit.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
            .  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
          .  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.33pm.Seattle.2019
    Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  4stnieheko9cbani2bmqk96168lvdoqmp2@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 27.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM,  Jul 14 {  8:50pm, 2019 }:28^(-5)  XΖʞʔ
      Switching to a HDMI v2.0 cable should solve my "No Signal" problem.

Char Jackson replied ( to me ):
> > I bought a 6' cable from Walmart for 12$ total; 
> > Amazon wanted 20$, after shipping+taxes.
> 
> Bought online, I presume.

Yes, because I don't have a car, and I hate riding buses,
and Walmart is too far away from (deep) Seattle.

> To go outside, you'd probably have 
> to wear a welder's mask, right ? 

I just squint a lot, when walking into the sun,
and I put my hand over my eyes.

> Sensitive eyes wouldn't be much fun, 
> except in very limited circumstances.

It's great right now, in my dark room.
I look+act like a prototypical hacker/beard.
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              .  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
            .  rjvmie5fr514ajht8jpcmb53a76e0ocdfa@4ax.com
          .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.05pm.Seattle.2019
        .  o8eniellbmm9c867ggmluh27q5pi76k6tn@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2019
    Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  vjtnieljev0g33k005d6kcvgcrsbunbugf@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 2.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM,  Jul 14 {  8:45pm, 2019 }:42^(-5)  XΖʝχ
      Laying on your back is the only way to mouse.

Char Jackson replied ( to me ):
> > Laying on your back is the only way to mouse.
> 
> Hmmm, please tell me more.
> 
> Maybe I'm missing out on a good thing.
> I'm not opposed to mousing while laying in bed.

My mouse-arm rests on my "twin" bed, so my hand hangs over,
onto the side-table, where this mouse (+pad) is:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
  
Note:  There's no physical keyboard.
My virtual keyboard is extremely custom;
it might be too hard for you to create.

My 40' 4k monitor swings on a long+high monitor arm;
it's super-difficult to find a proper monitor arm, one that 
can handle a 25 lb, 40' monitor... you may have to improvise.
I use the Amazon Basics monitor arm, along with an extension.

Also, my table had to be reinforced with plywood and 
attached to it is a 25 lb counter-weight, using glue and clamps.

A large monitor is good for viewing (bright) videos, farther away.

When viewing text, up close, smaller monitors are better;
otherwise, the edges are too far from the center.
I'm not sure what the best compromise is.

DisplayPort is buggy ( sleep mode is effectively 
the same thing as pulling the cord ); use HDMI v2 instead.
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              Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
          Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
      Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad
    SteveCarroll  56096d9b-5213-4b24-b78d-aaa80fc7be17@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m121 Cool; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG,  Jul 14 {  6:  pm, 2019 }: 5^(PDT)  XΖʂ5
      Monitors waking up != Windows waking up.

Steve Carroll replied ( to Kompressor ):
> I don't see why the solution you suggested doesn't work. 
> online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/stop-mouse-from-waking-windows-up-from-sleep-mode

You don't see a lot of things, Steve.

Monitors waking up != Windows waking up.
Besides, I tried it, and it doesn't stop the monitor from waking up.

> "At night, in a dark room, when I'm trying to sleep, movement jiggles 
> the mouse, briefly turning the monitor back on again (yikes!);"
> ... was just a cover story, it has nothing to do with what he wants.

"Snitty", adjective:

   Agitated or Annoyed.  Steve Carroll.
   " No point in getting all Steve Carroll over the weather. "

       https://YourDictionary.COM/Snitty
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  qgfsdp$ea3$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.29pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  acc175b3-d081-4dc6-af35-e85d514377f7@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.04pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  972da643-1452-419b-b3af-ac6d4f0711a1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m121 Cool; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG,  Jul 14 {  5:21pm, 2019 }:31^(PDT)  XΖɻμ
      "Snitty", adjective.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> I just put a thick guitar pick under one side of my mouse,

OK, I'll try that.
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            Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
        Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
      Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m49 Cool; 19.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 {  4:49pm, 2019 }:18^(2)  XΖɶɌ
      Switching to a HDMI v2.0 cable should solve my "No Signal" problem.

I wrote:
> 15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep 
> { possibly from a RANDOM awakening },
> as I'm starting to relax, "No Signal" flashes up, 
> annoying the crap out of me.

Switching to a HDMI v2.0 cable should 
solve my "No Signal" problem, I think.

I bought a 6' cable from Walmart for 12$, after shipping+taxes; 
Amazon wanted 20$, after shipping+taxes.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/2-0-HDMI-Cable-ready-for-For-PS3-PS4-PC-TV-Xbox-28AWG-Goldplate-Braided-Cord-HDMI-Cable-4K-6ft/329154783
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              Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
    Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  vkrsvf-gm6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 3  m49 Cool; 19.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 {  4:49pm, 2019 }:18^(2)  XΖɶɌ
      DisplayPort 1.4 or HDMI v2.0 is different ?

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> > 15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep 
> > { possibly from a RANDOM awakening },
> > as I'm starting to relax, "No Signal" flashes up, 
> > annoying the crap out of me.
> 
> I don't have that issue.
> But that is a bug between the operating system and the monitor. 
> They don't usually document bugs, you know.

It's a DisplayPort "feature", I think.
I wonder if DisplayPort 1.4 or HDMI v2.0 is different.
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              Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg7sg$jah$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.28pm.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qggbmu$m0q$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.32pm.Seattle.2019
    Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  n5fniepo7e9fp8cebh2cst212t6iomc1k5@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m24 Cool; 29.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM,  Jul 14 {  4:38pm, 2019 }:59^(-5)  XΖɴΔ
      The boom is busting.

Char Jackson replied ( to me ):
> Paul was suggesting that you use a VGA card to fake out the computer. 
> He didn't suggest that you actually run the monitor from VGA.

I might end up dropping another grand on another monitor.

Maybe next year; the boom is busting, I think.

I wonder how this will affect the upcoming elections.

I might end up on the streets, with very little privacy.
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              Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
          Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
        Mandy_Liefbowitz│  rjvmie5fr514ajht8jpcmb53a76e0ocdfa@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.05pm.Seattle.2019
    Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  o8eniellbmm9c867ggmluh27q5pi76k6tn@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m23 Cool; 2.7 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM,  Jul 14 {  4:23pm, 2019 }:29^(-5)  XΖɱთ
      Laying on your back is the only way to mouse.

Char Jackson replied ( to me ):
> 1. Move the computer out of the bedroom.   or
> 2. Move the bed out of the computer room.

Now you're just being silly.

Laying on your back is the only way to mouse.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
            Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
        Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
    Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m6 Shifty; 9.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jul 14 {  4:16pm, 2019 }:18  XΖɰА
      Who makes the best monitors, Taiwan, Korea or ShenZhen ?

Kompressor replied ( to me ):
> > > Wear a blindfold when you sleep.
> > > You always seem to have the oddest problems.
> >
> > Yes, that's my problem, no one else cares.
> 
> You've gotten a lot of responses from people trying to help.

Yes, people _ here would help me, if they could;
but we aren't the people who make|review monitors.

> if it were such a big problem, there would be a solution, 
> mitgation or work around.

Right, that's precisely my point.
My problem too unique.

> I hope you find a solution. I'm out of ideas.

Thank you. 

I need something like an OLED 4K monitor.
Year after year, there's been little progress on that front.

Who makes the best monitors, Taiwan, Korea or ShenZhen ?

I wonder if Trump will put tariffs on them ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgfsjd$k7g$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.52pm.Seattle.2019
    Jim│gazwad45@nowherelocal_org  rf0bqtu441wg.1wrcm6i6hjyy.dlg@40tude.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.44pm.Seattle.2019
  ➤Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 20.7 Minutes, 40tude, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 14 {  4: 5pm, 2019 }:26^(-4)  XΖɮე
      Collecting pocket lint.

Jim replied ( to me ):
> Maybe you should find another hobby because computers ain't the hobby for you Jeff.
> Collecting pocket lint or door knobs might prove fun for you.

How's that working out for you ?
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              Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
          Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg7sg$jah$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.28pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qggbmu$m0q$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m205 Mad; 33.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 14 {  3:52pm, 2019 }:13^(-4)  XΖɬϻ
      DisplayPort is funky.

Paul replied ( to me ):
> Check your junk pile and see what sources you
> can use to "fake out" your monitor.  The digital
> ports seem like they need power sources to be faked out.

I am pretty sure I've got a firmware problem,
not a hardware problem.  DisplayPort is funky.
VGA can't run 4K.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019
            Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  e7MWE.59295$0_.36597@fx02.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
        Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
    Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m62 Shifty; 21.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jul 14 {  3:21pm, 2019 }:21  XΖɧβ
      Different people, different problems.

Kompressor replied ( to me )::
> Wear a blindfold when you sleep.
> You always seem to have the oddest problems.

Yes, that's my problem, no one else cares.

Different people, different problems.

And it's very much a first-world problem, not a big deal.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  qgfsdp$ea3$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.29pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  acc175b3-d081-4dc6-af35-e85d514377f7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m119 Cool; 3.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Jul 14 {   :37pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT)  XΖɄɵ
      The table has to be close to my bed because that's where I use my PC.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> My mouse doesn't read anything when it's on its back or
> if I cover the sensor... or just unplug it. Flip it over, set it on 
> the nightstand and see if it triggers. <shrug>.

My mouse must be immediately available, 24/7.
The table, with the mouse, sometimes gets hit;
even when I'm sleeping.

The table has to be close to my bed because that's where I use my PC.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgfsjd$k7g$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m12 Shifty; 4.1 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 14 { 11:34am, 2019 }:20^(-4)  XΖȷВ
      My Philips bdm4037uw has only one "button": a joystick/button.

Paul replied ( to me ):
> Sometimes, certain combinations of those adjustment buttons
> on the LCD monitor, change how it works.

My Philips bdm4037uw has only one "button": a joystick/button.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
        BranimirMaksimovic  xgMWE.736825$Xh7.398042@fx25.am4
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.14pm.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  3LNWE.1734119$Szs1.1316845@fx08.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m3 Top; 9.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Jul 14 {  3:10pm, 2019 }: 7  XΖɥϵ
      Firefox v67, Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition.

Branimir replied ( to me ):
> > > >     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
> > > 
> > > You are amazing!
> >
> > What ?! why ?!  Do you also have sensitive eyes ?
> 
> No, but [ isn't this a ] Linux tiling window manager ?

No, the screenshot shows:

  Firefox v67, Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
            Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
      Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg7sg$jah$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 2  m204 Mad; 32.4 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 14 {  2:46pm, 2019 }:55^(-4)  XΖɡе
      Is your monitor using VGA ?

Paul replied ( to me ):
> Try the following. No promises.
> If the monitor has a VGA input...

My 60 Hz 4K monitor uses DisplayPort v1.2 .

> If all cables indicate they've fallen off, 
> then perhaps the monitor is in the best position to put up
> the "No Signal" dialog.

Preach !

Is your monitor using VGA ?
if so, you can't duplicate my scenario.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
            Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  qiLWE.58623$I%1.5034@fx08.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019
        Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  e7MWE.59295$0_.36597@fx02.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
    Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m4 Shifty; 23.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jul 14 {  2:15pm, 2019 }:52  XΖɜϘ
      "wake the computer" is unchecked.

Kompressor replied ( to me )::
> > > Try the Root Hub the port is on.
> > > That is where the power management options are.
> >
> > The "wake the computer" option is grayed out.
> 
> Google:  USB-root-hub, "wake the computer", greyed-out

"wake the computer" is unchecked; 
so I don't care if it's grayed-out or not.

I want to NOT wake the monitor -- not the computer.
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              Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m203 Mad; 10.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 14 {  1:57pm, 2019 }:22^(-4)  XΖəγ
      15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep.

Paul replied ( to me )::
> My Acer monitor sets the power LED to amber, when the
> RGBHV signals all go to zero DC.  And the screen goes black.

Fifteen seconds later, my monitor flashes a bright-white
dialog screen that says "Attention: No Video Input".

> My monitor knows the difference between computer S1 sleep
> ( screen goes black ) versus cable has fallen off.

When you put your monitor to sleep, you don't get 
"Attention: No Video Input" fifteen seconds later ?

Maybe I should buy a new monitor; 
Amazon doesn't sell a "4K OLED Monitor".

Monitor-Reviews don't mention these things;
the vast majority of people just don't care.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  xgMWE.736825$Xh7.398042@fx25.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.14pm.Seattle.2019
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      Do you also have sensitive eyes ?

Branimir replied ( to me ):
> > No monitor-reviews mentioned it because 
> > most people don't operate in pitch-black rooms, like I do;
> > nor do their screens look like this:
> >
> >     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
> 
> You are amazing!

What ?! why ?!

Do you also have sensitive eyes ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
        Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  qiLWE.58623$I%1.5034@fx08.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019
    Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  e7MWE.59295$0_.36597@fx02.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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      I spent hours googling, looking for a better monitor.

Kompressor:
> > > Device Manager --> USB --- Find the USB port that the mouse is plugged into
> > > Go into Power Management and UNSELECT "Allow This Device To Wake The Computer".
> >
> > Nothing to de-select, not an option.
> 
> Try the Root Hub the port is on.
> That is where the power management options are.

The option is grayed out.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019
            Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgctgh$nha$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
        Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgdhcq$9n3$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
    John│Man@the_keyboard  e71niedfr7sq7ehqgop1tt90hb6df6d8ha@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
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      I'm happy to answer calls 24/7.

John replied ( to me ):
> Have a small, glowing lamp turn on *first* to allow your onboard
> optics to adjust to seeing light. *then* hit the monitor on-switch. 

No, I don't want that.

I have three or four brightness levels+areas I can turn on,
but I only turn them on for very specific reasons, 
and "waking up" is not one of them.

> You *never* accept any advice and any gratitude expressed 
> is grudging and tainted with " ... but ...". 

.... John said, looking in the mirror.

> > Bria v5, my Win10 soft phone, responds to incoming calls.
> > I might be asleep, for example, with the monitor powered-off,
> > when someone calls me.  I answer the phone ( via a mouse button )
> 
> So don't. Let it go to voicemail. Let them call back. 

On Windows, my Bria soft-phone doesn't register missed calls
when it's not running; also, Bria records text messages.
I've never owned a "smart (cell) phone".

I tell everyone that I'm happy to answer calls 24/7;
I sleep odd hours, no one knows what I might be asleep or awake.

> > My eyes don't like the surprise.
> 
> Have you tried wearing a sleep-mask ?

I don't need that, I can just close my eyes or look away.
Also, I point my monitor towards the ceiling, away from me, in bed.
For the thousandth time, I said this was NOT a big problem.

> "Oh, but I *CAN'T* do *THAT* because I need to see to ...." 
> Right ? 

Right.
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            Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
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        Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
    Mandy_Liefbowitz│  c10nie12r6ddme808ppsp53qborjf8imj3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.44pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
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      100% "black" is bright gray.

Mandy replied ( to me ):
> > No one knows how to stop the mouse 
> > from accidentally waking the monitor;
> > apparently, it can't be done.
> 
> Yes, it can and it is *easy*.
> Switch off the monitor at the power button, wall socket or any
> powerstrip between the two. 

Then I have to deal with the flash screen when the monitor turns on.

> I'm not impressed by that as an objection but, no doubt, you are. 

You're not me; I'm _ very _ unusual.
As I've said, repeatedly, it's NOT a big problem.
War in the Middle East is a bigger problem.

> darken the screen  

I set brightness to zero and keep it there, always.

> a screensaver that goes very, very dark

No such thing exists ( 100% "black" is bright gray );
I can't sleep with the back-lights on.

> > The solution is simple: point the monitor to the ceiling.
> 
> True, it won't be as glaringly bright on the ceiling but the
> difference is probably going to be marginal when compared
> to the gloom of the night. 

So long as I don't have to stare at a bright object, I'm OK-ish.

> Still, it's your sleep hours. 
> If you want them interrupted, who are we to suggest solutions ?

I don't want that, obviously. 
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              Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgdhcq$9n3$1@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
      Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
    Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
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      15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep.

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Acer doesn't display any logo when waking up from sleep.

Nor does mine, that's standard.

15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep 
{ possibly from a RANDOM awakening },
as I'm starting to relax, "No Signal" flashes up, 
annoying the crap out of me.

No monitor-review discusses this topic;
I'm the only one that cares.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
    Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  qiLWE.58623$I%1.5034@fx08.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019
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      I spent hours googling, looking for a better monitor.

> > No one knows how to stop the mouse 
> > from accidentally waking the monitor;
> > apparently, it can't be done.
> 
> Device Manager - > Mice and other pointing devices --Select your mouse
> -->Properties--->Power Management--- > UNSELECT the box that says 
> "Allow this device to wake the computer"  -->Save it.

Did that, didn't work.

> Device Manager --> USB --- Find the USB port that the mouse is plugged into
> Go into Power Management and UNSELECT "Allow This Device To Wake The Computer".

Nothing to de-select, not an option.

> If not, get a cover for the monitor 

No, I just turn the monitor towards the ceiling.

> or a blindfold to cover your eyes when you sleep.

No, it's enough to just keep my eyes closed
and/or not focus on bright objects.
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              Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
          Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
      Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
    Mandy_Liefbowitz│  rjvmie5fr514ajht8jpcmb53a76e0ocdfa@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
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      I turn the brightness to zero, first thing, whenever I get a monitor.

Mandy:
> turn down the brightness before retiring to sleep. 
> If turned down until it is a mere glimmer, the gleam of the glowing
> advertisement should not be too painful even in the gloom of night. 

I turn the brightness to zero, first thing, whenever I get a monitor,
and it stays there.

Besides not wanting to see the advertisement, all the time,
my (Swiss) eyes are far more sensitive than yours.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
            Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgdhcq$9n3$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
        Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
    Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m45 Cool; 2.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 { 11:39am, 2019 }:50^(2)  XΖȸϖ
      Seeing an advertisement, first thing in the morning.

Carlos replied ( to me ):
> My Samsung displays "Samsung" in grey over a blue ellipse,
> the rest is black.  The acer displays "acer" in green on black
> ( I just looked at both, switched off all the room lights ).
> None does a "super-annoying+blinding splash screen".

My eyes are _ extremely _ sensitive -- far more than most;
besides, I don't appreciate seeing an advertisement,
first thing in the morning.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  qgfsdp$ea3$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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      Never do I look at my mouse, before I press a button.

Steve Carroll asked me:
> How could you find the "global hotkey" in 
> this "pitch black room", genius?
> Maybe... Turn a light on... Ya think?

To answer my phone, or to toggle my monitor On/Off,
or to toggle my keyboard On/Off, etc.,
I simply press a mouse button; to wit:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG

Never do I look at my mouse, before I press a button.
I do it in a pitch-black room, all the time, 
after being awoken by my ringing phone.

When my monitor turns on, I see a mostly-black screen; to wit:

    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG

When watching bright videos, I push my monitor back, 
farther away from me.  This is where a 40" screen 
( on my bizarrely long+high monitor–arm ) really helps.

Also my eyes adjust to the brightness, eventually.
My blue eyes are ultra sensitive -- my mom was the same way;
it's a Swiss thing, apparently.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
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      I spent hours googling, looking for a better monitor.

Owl,

No one knows how to stop the mouse 
from accidentally waking the monitor;
apparently, it can't be done.

I'm not "moving the goal posts"; I simply explained why 
turning the monitor off/on is not an adequate solution to 
my "no signal" problem ( flashing me 15 seconds after 
the monitor is put to sleep { from a RANDOM awakening } ).

The solution is simple: point the monitor to the ceiling.

Like I said, it's not a big deal; 
it's just something I'd avoid, if I could.

I spent hours googling, looking for a better monitor;
I found plenty of sympathy, but no solutions.

No monitor-reviews mentioned it because 
most people don't operate in pitch-black rooms, like I do;
nor do their screens look like this:

    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG

    Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComments.PNG   Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeNotices.PNG    Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSubs.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG                 Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/Chess.PNG             Jeff-Relf.Me/Super.Fast.Monopoly.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/Reversi.PNG           Jeff-Relf.Me/Solitair.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/Mario.PNG             Jeff-Relf.Me/Glyph.PNG
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid
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      I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Owl asked me:
> > I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.
> > How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?
> 
> How would the splash screen work without power?

What do you think a "splash screen" is ? !

    1. Turn on monitor, to start my day, in the pitch-black room.

    2. Splash Screen appears, blinding me.

    3. Note the brand of my monitor ( for the millionth time ).

    4. Turn off the monitor, because "Owl" said so.

You can't see any problems with this, above ?

I could never use the monitor.
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              Owl  uzxcb003tgag.uo4@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  b19643ab-ae09-4cab-a171-27eb77310231@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  30a415da-3b36-431a-8bee-b938b8575ea4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--10.56am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 7  m114 Cool; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Jul 14 {  9:29am, 2019 }: 1^(PDT)  XΖiл
      I want the monitor on, I do not want an advertisement blinding me.

Snit asked me:
> > It is on a nightstand, on a hard mousepad.
> > My arm rests on my bed, but my hand is on the mouse, on the nightstand.
> 
> While you're sleeping?

No because, unlike you, I'm human.

> > I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing,
> > after waking up, in a pitch black room.
> > How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?
> 
> No power = no light.

No power = unusable PC.

I want the monitor on, I do not want an advertisement blinding me,
when I wake up, in a pitch black room.

Your standards are quite different, apparently.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019
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      I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Owl asked me:
> Why do you sleep with your mouse in the bed with you ?
> Put in on a nightstand.

It is on a nightstand, on a hard mousepad.
My arm rests on my bed, but my hand is on the mouse, on the nightstand.

How could a power strip stop the splash screen ?

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing,
after waking up, in a pitch black room.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
      Owl  uzxcb003tgag.uo4@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  b19643ab-ae09-4cab-a171-27eb77310231@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Me, Owl and Steve:
> > > The problem with turning the monitor off/on is 
> > > the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
> > > Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.
> > 
> > 1. Get power strip for your monitor.  [ something, something ]
> 
> Put "stuff" [?] in 'night mode'

Waking up at night, in a pitch black room,
and turn on a monitor, I get blasted by a "splash screen",
advertising the brand of my monitor, is if I didn't already know it.

I don't want to be blinded by an advertisement, first thing.

Others feel the same way, but no one has posted a solution;
hours of googling came up empty; 
monitor reviews _ completely _ ignore this issue.

Some here have claimed that their monitors don't have this "splash screen",
but they can't tell me the make and model number.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019
            Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgctgh$nha$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
        Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgdhcq$9n3$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
    Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m41 Cool; 8.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET,  Jul 13 {  6:49pm, 2019 }:25^(2)  XΕАɕ
      Your monitor goes from black[off] to gray[on] ?

Carlos replied ( to me ):
> None of my monitors [ flash a splash screen ], 

I've never seen a monitor without a splash screen.

Your monitor goes from black[off] to gray[on],
nothing more ? 

What's the brand+model ?  How old is it ?

I spent hours googling this "splash screen" issue;
found nothing.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--4.47am.Seattle.2019
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
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      My eyes don't like the surprise.

Mayayana replied ( to me ):
> If you want the monitor off then why not just turn it off?

The problem with turning the monitor off/on is 
the super-annoying+blinding splash screen ( in a pitch-black room ).
Monitor reviews don't mention anything about that.

No one talks about it, not even in the manuals.
I'm a strange duck, apparently; no one but me cares about it.

> Or put the whole system in standby.
> I don't see the point of putting only the monitor to sleep.

Bria v5, my Win10 soft phone, responds to incoming calls.

I might be asleep, for example, with the monitor powered-off,
when someone calls me.  I answer the phone ( via a mouse button )
without turning the monitor on.  My eyes don't like the surprise.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--4.47am.Seattle.2019
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgcilf$o94$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019
        Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgctgh$nha$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgdh26$7qf$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 2  m204 Mad; 30.4 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 13 {  2: 5pm, 2019 }:11^(-4)  XΕλх
      A monitor that doesn't flash "No Video Input" ?

Paul replied ( to me ):
> > Is there monitor that doesn't flash "No Video Input"
> > after you (supposedly) put the monitor to sleep ? 
> > it should be optional.
> > 
> > I've no way of knowing which monitors don't do that, if any.
> 
> Why not crack the manual that came with your
> fancy monitor, and see if it has a section about
> the OSD, with what options are available.

I am well aware of every option on my current monitor;
there's no way to turn off the "No Video Input" thing.

It's not a big deal, as I can always point the monitor to the ceiling.
I think my next monitor is going to be quite a bit smaller (27"?);
so the corners aren't so far away, compared to the center.

First world problems.
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              .  o1gmvf-bsd.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
            .  qgc7as$tda$1@dont-email.me
          .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--4.47am.Seattle.2019
        .  qgcilf$o94$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019
    Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qgctgh$nha$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m2 Cool; 2 Hours, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 13 {  8:31am, 2019 }: 4^(-4)  XΕʛȶ
      A monitor that doesn't flash "No Video Input" ?

Is there a monitor that doesn't flash "No Video Input"
after you (supposedly) put the monitor to sleep ? 
it should be optional.

I've no way of knowing which monitors don't do that, if any.

Mayayana,

I went to Device Manager and deselected
"Allow this device to bring computer out of standby" 
wherever possible, under HID and "Mice and other pointing devices".

It had no effect, mouse moment still wakes my monitor.

I googled << "WaitWakeEnabled" mouse >>;
didn't see anything relevant.
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          Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  o1gmvf-bsd.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
        wasbit│wasbitREMOVE@hotmail_  qgc7as$tda$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--4.47am.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qgcilf$o94$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m200 Mad; 1.1 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 13 {  5:26am, 2019 }:24^(-4)  XΕɼʐ
      I want nothing ( except a global hotkey ) to wake my monitor.

Paul,

My 4k, 40" monitor swings on an absurdly long/high monitor arm,
over my bed.  I'm lying down now, in bed, as I write this.
The monitor is at arms length, for a kind of IMAX experience.

When I hit a certain hotkey my code turns the monitor off.
Hitting the same (global) hotkey ( assigned to a mouse button )
turns the monitor back on again.  The mouse button:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG

At night, in a dark room, when I'm trying to sleep, movement jiggles
the mouse, briefly turning the monitor back on again (yikes!);

my code immediately turns the monitor back off; but, 15 seconds later, 
my monitor displays a bright "No Signal" message waking me up.

Ideally, nothing but the hotkey would turn the monitor back on.

As far as I know, it can't be done.
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      Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_  o1gmvf-bsd.ln1@Telcontar.valinor
    wasbit│wasbitREMOVE@hotmail_  qgc7as$tda$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--4.47am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m5 Cool; 2.3 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 13 {  2:13am, 2019 }:  ^(1)  XΕɜy
      I want nothing ( except a global hotkey ) to wake my monitor.

> Caffeinated - https://github.com/dmnd/Caffeinated
> Caffeine - http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/index.html
> coffee https://sourceforge.net/projects/coffee-sc/files/Portable%20Verson/
> Don't Sleep - http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Microsoft/DontSleep
> StayAwake - http://mlesniew.wordpress.com/stayawake/

I have the opposite problem. 
I want nothing ( except a global hotkey ) to wake my monitor.

The only solutions I've found, so far,
put my monitor back to sleep AFTER it wakes up,
 
which causes my monitor to display an annoyingly bright 
"no signal" message, 15 seconds later, hurting my eyes.
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      Kensi  qg8svk$1qr$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3791ff8f6308e26571@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--5.08am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m724 Mad; 1.6 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jul 12 {  3:23am, 2019 }:51^(-7)  XΔψჭ
      Who knows what's under all that snow, gold ? petroleum ?

Checkmate replied ( to Kensi ):
> > Greenland Is on Track to Lose All Its Ice.
> 
> It was too damned cold there anyway.
> This'll be great for tourism!

There's plenty of bad news in this world,
but Greenland getting warmer isn't one of them.

Who knows what's under all that snow, gold ? petroleum ?
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3790152e442f4d6a540@news.altopia.com
            Kensi  qg6esj$v71$3@gioia.aioe.org
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3791858c6c208db155d@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qg8or1$3j5$5@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.379187c99f409d07563@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qg8qpo$3j5$7@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.39am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m263 Mad; 7.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 11 {  7:20pm, 2019 }:40  XΔʏʠ
      A dark-skinned country where a matriarchy rules supreme.

Would someone please ask Ms Nadegda why she hasn't moved to
a dark-skinned country where a matriarchy rules supreme ?

I'm sure she'd love it there, 
we just have to encourage her to move.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.00pm.Seattle.2019
            MrAA  f2c18783-df5b-4a05-a632-3685a3df72b8@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--3.37pm.Seattle.2019
        MrAA  42498e06-3fdc-4017-a71f-880342325aea@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  63183737-18df-4d9a-a921-15c2300e522c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m69 Top; 20.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul 11 {  5: 1pm, 2019 }:46^(PDT)  XΔɸɪ
      Google Groups anonymized my handle !

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > I'm no money grubber, far from it.
> 
> You've changed your handle.  I wasn't recognizing you, Jeff.  

Google Groups anonymized my handle ! that wasn't me.
It should be okay now.   Thanks for letting me know.

I'm heavy into finance, it's kind of my job.

Renting is far cheaper than owning a condo|house;
and, if you get along with the landlord+manager+housemates,
it's quite sweet.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Test
      2 unique subject line
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Test
      A unique subject line
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Test
      Test
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.09pm.Seattle.2019
            MrAA  8b8d4d08-bd96-4652-a842-de7f5a5f1789@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.00pm.Seattle.2019
        MrAA  f2c18783-df5b-4a05-a632-3685a3df72b8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--3.37pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  42498e06-3fdc-4017-a71f-880342325aea@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m68 Top; 12.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul 11 {  4:12pm, 2019 }:33^(PDT)  XΔɰX
      You don't know, me not at all.

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Will someone claim your body, and your assets, when you die ?
> > In other words, do you have family that cares about you ?
> 
> Why?  Do you think I should leave everything to you?
> You talk like an estate planner.

You don't know me, not at all.

I'm no money grubber, far from it.
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              HerbertGlazier  66d554c0-7db7-4943-8035-9a28b9319f04@googlegroups.com
            MrAA  bbc719be-6057-4cc0-8077-8a3a3bac923b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.09pm.Seattle.2019
        MrAA  8b8d4d08-bd96-4652-a842-de7f5a5f1789@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.00pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  f2c18783-df5b-4a05-a632-3685a3df72b8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--3.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m67 Top; 36.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul 11 {  2:57pm, 2019 }:52^(PDT)  XΔɣϘ
      Do you have family that cares about you ?

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Will someone claim your body when you die ?
> 
> It doesn't matter, because 
> when I die this universe will no longer exist!

Will someone claim your body, and your assets, when you die ?

In other words, do you have family that cares about you ?
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        Moon_Cricket_Mayhem│dashwan  qg7qa2$tvk$1@adenine.netfront.net
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.379111e762e5002d54f@news.altopia.com
    Byker│byker@do~rag_net  iPudnXS2Q4uNNbrAnZ2dnUU7-T3NnZ2d@supernews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--3.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Rec.Food.Cooking, Alt.Flame.Niggers, PA.General, Alt.Law-Enforcement
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 17.9 Minutes, Live_Mail➤Windows, Supernews.COM,  Jul 11 {  2:20pm, 2019 }:15^(-5)  XΔɝʇ
      It's 2007, 2008 all over again.

As you can see here, the poorest, most REMOTE cultures
are the ones doing most of the breeding:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG

In rich CITIES ( e.g. Seoul, Tokyo, Macau, Hong Kong, and Singapore )
women average .98 births per lifetime ( projected );
the replacement rate is 2.08 births.

Like canaries in a coal mine, watch out when you see:

  Poor people, with lots of kids, doing strange things.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Seattle.House.Prices.PNG

Wolf Richter, Jul 1, 2019:

  In Seattle, where rents had been soaring for years, 
  the median one-bedroom apartment asking rent in June
  fell 7% from the peak a year ago, to 1'850$.

  The median asking rent for a two-bedroom apartment 
  fell 5% from a year ago to 2'400$, and is 
  down 9.4% from the peak in April 2016.

  Clearly, the phenomenal apartment+condo construction
  boom over the past few years is having an impact.
          ...
  1-BR rent, Portland, OR: 1'360$ ( -6.8% )

9 of my 31 renters haven't paid this month.
Last 8+ years, I've never seen anything like it.
It's 2007, 2008 all over again.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--0.43pm.Seattle.2019
            T│T@invalid_invalid  qg7qmu$lbj$1@dont-email.me
          nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  110720191319161088%nospam@nospam.invalid
        Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-B0F13D.11585311072019@reader.eternal-september.org
      T│T@invalid_invalid  qg82l2$3rg$1@dont-email.me
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-9525C4.14212711072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--3.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m4 Dropped; 16.5 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 11 {  2:21pm, 2019 }:38^(-7)  XΔɝσ
      The CharSet is "UTF-8".

View Source the Korean on this page:

  "BTS (방탄소년단) - MIC Drop":
  https://Youtube.COM/watch?v=RgFHvg8WSxg

Like most webpages, the CharSet is "UTF-8".

  <meta charset="UTF-8">
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  gwsVE.151916$xm4.32143@fx45.iad
            MrChrisV  db8eielsltccghhj7ot4ilatcpoov0irv4@4ax.com
          Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  vKFVE.32187$qC7.5358@fx11.iad
        MrChrisV  4faeielgq0e7mccgfv7edc5in4rl5v32ud@4ax.com
      Kompressor│Kompressor@local_  zkGVE.20273$7s1.10610@fx44.iad
    MsNadegda  qg8558$cs5$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--1.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m256 Mad; 8.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 11 {  1:11pm, 2019 }:20  XΔɑю
      Which dark-skinned country appeals to you ?

France has high unemployment, and negative interest rates.

By the way, which dark-skinned country appeals to you ?
South Africa ?  No rape problem there ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.09pm.Seattle.2019
            MrAA  8b8d4d08-bd96-4652-a842-de7f5a5f1789@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.00pm.Seattle.2019
        HerbertGlazier  7270813e-8902-4b41-a3d1-255532739515@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  5f12152a-76d0-4a49-a2a5-4ba7e9d025b2@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qg83pe$ibs$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m184 Top; 4.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jul 11 {   :48pm, 2019 }:  ^(-4)  XΔɌ0
      You don't have a perpetuity gland ?

Ben replied ( to Bert ):
> > MSP is based on good science.It goes back when 
> > your pertuity glan stops working when you get to be 26.
> 
> "Pertuity glan?"

You don't have a perpetuity gland ?

You should be grateful for any amount of time+money you get;
if you're "blessed" with longevity, it's probably because
you're small, like the Japanese used to be.
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              Ralph_Fox│-rf-nz-@-_invalid  387bie9taj99mj9beu46l5kja688ggej68@4ax.com
            T│T@invalid_invalid  qg5666$ehr$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--0.43pm.Seattle.2019
        T│T@invalid_invalid  qg7qmu$lbj$1@dont-email.me
      nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  110720191319161088%nospam@nospam.invalid
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-B0F13D.11585311072019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  m1 Dropped; 27.2 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 11 { 11:59am, 2019 }: 1^(-7)  XΔȻл
      UTF-8/ASCII, not UTF-16, is the standard.

Siri_Cruise:
> The HTML source can and should be ASCII only.

Yes, and all puppies should go to heaven.
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              TheSnitBot  gol662Fqsn6U1@mid.individual.net
            Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  octaiet8hksg6sl2r3u6vothvj9ltrnua9@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  golkj0Ftl5tU2@mid.individual.net
        Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  8kbciepo6ghadkseakhmu6hlf9s44hfgj3@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  ncfcie1f956tbggun7lapi2mse8ot6stoh@4ax.com
    MsNadegda  qg5gcg$5r9$71@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--5.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m244 Mad; 12.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 10 {  1: 4pm, 2019 }:32  XΓαО
      It's 2007, 2008 all over again.

Ms Nadegda:
> Seattle's economic boom was brought to it by the city's 
> instituting of a $15 minimum wage.

Seattle+Amazon was booming long before that, now it's busting.
" Will the last person leaving Seattle -- Turn out the lights ",
is our infamy.

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Seattle.House.Prices.PNG

Wolf Richter, Jul 1, 2019:

  In Seattle, where rents had been soaring for years, 
  the median one-bedroom apartment asking rent in June
  fell 7% from the peak a year ago, to 1'850$.

  The median asking rent for a two-bedroom apartment 
  fell 5% from a year ago to 2'400$, and is 
  down 9.4% from the peak in April 2016.

  Clearly, the phenomenal apartment+condo construction
  boom over the past few years is having an impact.
          ...
  1-BR rent, Portland, OR: 1'360$ ( -6.8% )

9 of my 31 renters haven't paid this month.
I've never seen anything like it.
It's 2007, 2008 all over again.
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        T│T@invalid_invalid  qg3vgf$sag$3@dont-email.me
      Ralph_Fox│-rf-nz-@-_invalid  387bie9taj99mj9beu46l5kja688ggej68@4ax.com
    T│T@invalid_invalid  qg5666$ehr$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--0.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m95 Cool; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 10 { 10:10am, 2019 }:30^(-7)  XΓʫМ
      UTF-8/ASCII, not UTF-16, is the standard.

UTF-8/ASCII, not UTF-16, is the standard for:

  -- FileNames ( all operating systems ).
  -- CommandLine Utilities ( e.g. "YouTube-DL.EXE" ). 
  -- The Internet ( e.g. ".HTML" files ).

Hence ( http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT ):

  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor]
  "autorun"="C:\\__\\_Source\\Init-CMD.BAT"

"Init-CMD.BAT":

  @chcp 65001
  @prompt $P$_$g

Also, I wrote my own console ( http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM ).
Mostly it's used for my Visual C++ routines,
but it also runs "YouTube-DL.EXE" directly, without "CMD.EXE".

From "X.CPP" in "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP":

  SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES Inherit = { sizeof( SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES ) };  
  Inherit.bInheritHandle = 1 ;  static  HANDLE  r, w ;
  CreatePipe( &r, &w, &Inherit, 0 );
  SetHandleInformation( r, HANDLE_FLAG_INHERIT, 0 );

  STARTUPINFO SU ={ sizeof( STARTUPINFO ) };
  SU.dwFlags = STARTF_USESTDHANDLES | STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW;
  SU.wShowWindow = SW_HIDE, SU.hStdOutput = SU.hStdError = w;
  SU.hStdInput = GetStdHandle( STD_INPUT_HANDLE );
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        micky│NONONOmisc07@bigfoot_com  fiaaietf5v8du0qd5oqcaha0r2fpvi46bs@4ax.com
      T│T@invalid_invalid  qg3g3q$2k5$1@dont-email.me
    micky│NONONOmisc07@bigfoot_com  68kaie1i4h88lpp583uac8scvok9824rfg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.55pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m30 Cool; 34 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  7:53pm, 2019 }:57^(-4)  XΓSჳ
      "1lO0" is: One, 'L', the letter 'o', and Zero.

"1lO0" is: One, 'L', the letter 'o', and Zero.

Convert both filenames to uppercase and display them using 
the "OCR-A" font, extra-large, like this:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/1lO0.PNG
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        micky│NONONOmisc07@bigfoot_com  fiaaietf5v8du0qd5oqcaha0r2fpvi46bs@4ax.com
      T│T@invalid_invalid  qg3g3q$2k5$1@dont-email.me
    micky│NONONOmisc07@bigfoot_com  68kaie1i4h88lpp583uac8scvok9824rfg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m30 Cool; 34 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  7:53pm, 2019 }:57^(-4)  XΓSჳ
      There are about 18 "code points" for "space".

Many characters look the same but aren't.
There are about 18 "code points" for "space"; see:

  http://jkorpela.fi/chars/spaces.html
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_point
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    HerbertGlazier  a2ace5f8-8f67-43fc-8800-162ef941f31a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m165 Top; 8.5 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jul  9 { 10:28am, 2019 }: 7^(PDT)  XΒдϵ
      You can't drill through lava.

Bert asked:
> Why don't we drill deeper and deeper ?

Because you can't drill through lava.
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          HerbertGlazier  66d554c0-7db7-4943-8035-9a28b9319f04@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  bbc719be-6057-4cc0-8077-8a3a3bac923b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.09pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  8b8d4d08-bd96-4652-a842-de7f5a5f1789@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--8.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m67 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul  9 {  4:37pm, 2019 }:10^(PDT)  XΒჲȼ
      Will someone claim your body when you die ?

Will someone claim your body when you die ?
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378d2010e0e98b0d4bf@news.altopia.com
            MsNadegda  qg0i67$5r9$21@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378d84077e5ab36c4d0@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qg30pl$5r9$43@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378eb2b72189d1a5511@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qg34vc$5r9$61@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--7.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m236 Mad; 3.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  3:37pm, 2019 }:33  XΒშɝ
      South Africa loves white farmers.

South Africa loves white farmers;
you should go there ASAP, Ms Nadegda.
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            TheSnitBot  goignvF9csnU1@mid.individual.net
          ScottDoty  goigusF6eeaU7@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--3.24am.Seattle.2019
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378e62fe4d9b58674ef@news.altopia.com
    Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.378e72707d3200b798a1d7@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--2.30pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m774 Dropped; 4.5 Hours, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  9:45am, 2019 }: 5^(-6)  XΒЭΚ
      Adopting human "strays", instead of dogs.

Skeeter replied ( to Checkmate+me ):
> > > Be happy with what you got, 
> > > and concentrate more on what _ YOU are giving.
> > > 
> > > If AOC did that, leading by example, there'd be 
> > > less depression, less detachment, and fewer heroin deaths.
> > 
> > I wish AOC would give me some head.
> 
> I wonder how she can cause less heroin deaths ?

By adopting human "strays", instead of dogs.

> Those teeth could be an issue. 

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/AOCs.Teeth.JPG" Alt="AOC's Teeth">
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              Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  ec99ietbpuhl2cvnt1fmo61qsm1v54j217@4ax.com
            Stephen_Wolstenholme│steve  9qa9ied92ft7hqsgl4738kuoe5iats5t5g@4ax.com
          KenW│ken1943@invalid_net  74c9ied9r6o8ou908v90bltpun8b6ebo68@4ax.com
        Ken_Blake│Ken@invalid_news_com  hre9ie12pfstug6va3ia8kmm6ia5h39877@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--11.53am.Seattle.2019
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qg2ua6$fic$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--2.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m5 Shifty; 26.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  1:43pm, 2019 }:49^(-6)  XΒვɭ
      I run my own email server; nothing gets filtered unless I filter it.

Someone replied ( to me ):
> > I've never run an AntiVirus daemon, never.
> > 
> > Once every year or two, I update "Windows Defender" and do a scan;
> > -- it never finds anything.
> > 
> > I'm a mega-heavy web user: Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition, Edge,
> > Firefox, Google Chrome, FTP, WinSCP.EXE, SMTP:465, IMAP:143
> > ( using my custom C++ console+client "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM" ).
> 
> You can thank your ISP for doing the virus scanning for you.

I run my own email server; nothing gets filtered unless I filter it.
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      Moon_Cricket_Mayhem│dashwan  qg2em3$2bn4$1@adenine.netfront.net
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378e7895fce9fcfa500@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--2.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Soc.Culture.African.American, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 1 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jul  9 { 11:34am, 2019 }:16^(-7)  XΒпϾ
      Disneyland didn't ( couldn't ? ) file charges.

" Men punch women in the face during Disneyland fight ":
https://Youtube.COM/watch?v=E-pYdXO1tRY

Before the video went viral, everyone was set free,
no charges; the police considered it a family matter.
Disneyland didn't ( couldn't ? ) file charges.

O.J. Simpson got away with worse.
This is why people live in gated communities.
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              Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid  GZJUE.79626$KQ6.56180@fx47.iad
            Big_Al│Big_Al@invalid_com  qfvtr3$pev$1@dont-email.me
          gazelle@shell_xmission_com  qg03e4$pri$1@news.xmission.com
        😉_Good_Guy_😉│Hello_World  qg089b$egc$1@news.mixmin.net
      Cameo│cameo@unreal_invalid  qg2lpj$ug9$1@dont-email.me
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg2nr4$a2d$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--0.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m207 Mad; 42.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 { 11:53am, 2019 }:24^(-4)  XΒтგ
      HTML on USENET.

Cameo wrote:
> > First time I see in-line graphics in a Usenet post.

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/PajamaBoy.JPG" Alt="Pajama Boy">
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              Ken_Blake│Ken@invalid_news_com  d9m1iedob6fg9b041e544g3ccjuusf36ha@4ax.com
            Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qfr9ti$dfn$1@dont-email.me
          Ken_Blake│Ken@invalid_news_com  5954iete943mbrvcq15png1ifjcsskpof4@4ax.com
        Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qft8v3$ucd$1@dont-email.me
      Ken_Blake│Ken@invalid_news_com  ssm4iepbtrat13fjjkff2p8jk1ho4796g2@4ax.com
    Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qg2do0$fnk$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--0.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m12 Cool; 1.5 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  9:  am, 2019 }:59^(-6)  XΒЦx
      Google is my calculator.

Google is my calculator.
Google:  72f in c=
         0xf in decimal=
         USD in Yen=

What could be easier than that ?
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              Pat│forums@greensdomain_com  ij29ietegdtmmcbcdu6m026gkl5u2q94nh@4ax.com
            Stephen_Wolstenholme│steve  1m59iele59edbdjbvhnusso4sfshcmcsic@4ax.com
          Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  ec99ietbpuhl2cvnt1fmo61qsm1v54j217@4ax.com
        Stephen_Wolstenholme│steve  9qa9ied92ft7hqsgl4738kuoe5iats5t5g@4ax.com
      KenW│ken1943@invalid_net  74c9ied9r6o8ou908v90bltpun8b6ebo68@4ax.com
    Ken_Blake│Ken@invalid_news_com  hre9ie12pfstug6va3ia8kmm6ia5h39877@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--11.53am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m23 Cool; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Individual.NET,  Jul  9 {  9: 6am, 2019 }:56^(-7)  XΒЧu
      I've never run an AntiVirus daemon, never.

I've never run an AntiVirus daemon, never.

Once every year or two, I update "Windows Defender" and do a scan;
-- it never finds anything.

I'm a mega-heavy web user: Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition, Edge, 
Firefox, Google Chrome, FTP, WinSCP.EXE, SMTP:465, IMAP:143
( using my custom C++ console+client "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM" ).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg09f3$36c$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--3.17pm.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg0kds$sfc$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--2.34am.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg2de8$dm8$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--11.31am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m208 Mad; 1.6 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  9 {  8:55am, 2019 }:51^(-4)  XΒХɯ
      << "TamperProtection"=dword:0 >> worked.

Thanks Paul, << "TamperProtection"=dword:0 >> worked;
"Antimalware Service Executable" no longer runs.

From "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT":

  ;  Take ownership of "Windows Defender" ( and children ) -Manually-,
  ;  take "Full Control", Merge+ReBoot.
  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Features]
  "TamperProtection"=dword:0

  ;  Must Merge+ReBoot.  Turns Windows Defender On[Off]:
  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender]
  ;  "DisableAntiSpyware"=-
  "DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:1

> There are two keys for the Windows Defender disable, on a 64-bit OS.

No, the "WOW6432Node" thing isn't necessary;
x32 settings == x64 settings; changing one changes the other.

> Note that I suspect the 32-bit OS I was testing in,
> the crash was actually related to a "trip wire".
> 
> Windows has exploit protection with a name like "fast crash",
> where rather than be exploited, the machine just resets.
> 
> And it can do that in a few instruction times.
> It doesn't piss around.  That's one of the defense strategies,
> if a trip wire is set off.

Really ?! I've never seen that.
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              Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.378db1c9f67a921698a1a2@news.eternal-september.org
            ScottDoty  goiel1F6eeaU5@mid.individual.net
          Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.378db33dbac62ba998a1a7@news.eternal-september.org
        ScottDoty  goigd6F6eeaU6@mid.individual.net
      TheSnitBot  goignvF9csnU1@mid.individual.net
    ScottDoty  goigusF6eeaU7@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--3.24am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m125 Top; 6.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul  8 {  8:45pm, 2019 }:32  XΒʝν
      It's a fallacy to lust after longevity, health, sex, money, etc.

It's a fallacy to lust after longevity, health, sex, money, etc.
And space-cadet AOC is definitely guilty of it.

Instead, be happy with what you got, 
and concentrate more on what _ YOU are giving.

If AOC did that, leading by example, there'd be 
less depression, less detachment, and fewer heroin deaths.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--0.19pm.Seattle.2019
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg06ld$i8v$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg09f3$36c$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--3.17pm.Seattle.2019
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qg0sc6$t4e$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--2.42am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m4 Shifty; 7.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 {  6:58pm, 2019 }:31^(-6)  XΒʋН
      "Home Edition" weenies.

Someone replied ( to me ):
> > Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".
> > Are you not running Windows 10, v1903, all updates ?
> 
> I'm curious if you just uninstalled Windows Defender?

That's not an option, especially for us "Home Edition" weenies.
Besides, I like Windows Defender, sometimes ( not always ).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--0.19pm.Seattle.2019
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg06ld$i8v$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg09f3$36c$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--3.17pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg0kds$sfc$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.9--2.34am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m207 Mad; 9.4 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 {  4:42pm, 2019 }:53^(-4)  XΒɵr
      Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul,

I can't access the "Tamper Prevention" dialogue; see:
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/No.Tamper.Prevention.PNG

> It can't possibly be that yours is Home and mine is Pro, 
> because both are "uncontrollable rubbish".

I think you can do it, and I can't, 
because I'm using the Home Edition, v1903.

> around when 1903 showed up,
> You could use Security Panel to turn off Real Time protection, 
> and [MsMpEng] would turn itself back on again.
> 
> If you try to use the slider again ( off|on ) nothing happens.
> So something did change in the last release.

Right, I think they took another shit on us Home Edition users, v1903.
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          MsNadegda  qfumt6$5r9$6@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.37am.Seattle.2019
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378d2010e0e98b0d4bf@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qg0i67$5r9$21@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--4.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m205 Mad; 3.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 {  4: 4pm, 2019 }:39  XΒɮХ
      1/3 of South Africa women said they had been raped in the past year.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Checky ):
> > > South Africa is confiscating white farms.
> > 
> > And killing white "settlers".  Don't forget that part.
> 
> Which right-wing rag did you read *that* in?

From WikiPedia.ORG:

  1/3 of South Africa women said they had been raped in the past year.
  Child and infant ( as young as 8 months ) rape is among the highest 
  in the world, largely as a result of the virgin cleansing myth.

https://WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/South_African_Farmer_Murders

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-africa-begins-seizing-whiteowned-farms/news-story/8937f899bd3f131bfc4ffb648ea5c53b

Enjoy your stay, Nadegda.
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            .  gof1o0Fh1ddU1@mid.individual.net
          .  qfu6cs$q06$1@neodome.net
        .  qfvuh7$svc$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--11.29am.Seattle.2019
    Anonymous_Remailer(austria│  752945ce9f8ffcc4a536e9669245c994@remailer.privacy.at
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--4.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server
    ╱ 1  m2 Dropped; 31.3 Minutes, BadRig, Dizum.NET➤Dizum.COM,  Jul  8 {  3:24pm, 2019 }:58^(CEST)  XΒɨw
      "Antimalware Service Executable"

Someone replied ( to me ):
> > If anyone knows how to kill  "Antimalware Service Executable",
> > Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.
> 
> Find the exe file and delete it ?

Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--11.29am.Seattle.2019
            Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg03ol$vdu$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--0.19pm.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg06ld$i8v$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg09f3$36c$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--3.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m203 Mad; 1.5 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 {  1:35pm, 2019 }:48^(-4)  XΒɕც
      Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul,

I already did the "DisableAntiSpyware" thing, long ago;
still, "Antimalware Service Executable" is running; see:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG

I don't know what you're doing different.
Are you not running Windows 10, v1903, all updates ?
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              PeeScent  cbsn8s.aht.19.6@news.alt.net
            MrChrisV  6o27iedoprlce1onf9k9udn08eccbafged@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  ee37iehi7mub3ooebi8gu9fbo7u69urn38@4ax.com
        MrChrisV  i147ieh0r365m39esek1o2sh1po0f9vaao@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  vh57ie1sl6e6vlogn8b3hv7rjbkiu14hl0@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  dd7d6ef3-7c34-43e5-9924-75f1fc53d99b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m4 Top; 4.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jul  8 {   :51pm, 2019 }: 5^(PDT)  XΒɌΚ
      Cash is King.

Hugh Huntzinger:
> The only point that I'd offer is that both the market (DJIA)
> and Gold are both down today, whereas they typically move 
> counter to each other.  As such, the question is where's 
> the money going?

Cash is King.

Gold is up 3.68$ today, now 1'405.98$.
S&P 500 Index is down 14.47 today, now 2'975.94.
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              Anonymous│anon@anon_com  qfu6cs$q06$1@neodome.net
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfvuh7$svc$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--11.29am.Seattle.2019
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg03ol$vdu$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--0.19pm.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg06ld$i8v$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 7.8 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 {   :47pm, 2019 }:58^(-4)  XΒɅჴ
      Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul replied ( to me ):
> > > > Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".
> > 
> > I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides, 
> > I don't think that would actually remove the process.
> > I bet you can't do it.
> 
> DisableAntiSpyware DWORD  1

I set that variable many years ago.

> https://i.postimg.cc/VvnXcKzy/Task-Manager.gif

That's not "Antimalware Service Executable"; see:

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfteh6$v2u$1@dont-email.me
            J_O_Aho│user@example_net  gof1o0Fh1ddU1@mid.individual.net
          Anonymous│anon@anon_com  qfu6cs$q06$1@neodome.net
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfvuh7$svc$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--11.29am.Seattle.2019
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qg03ol$vdu$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--0.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 14.6 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 { 11:58am, 2019 }:30^(-4)  XΒȻМ
      Kill  "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul replied ( to me ):
> > If anyone knows how to kill  "Antimalware Service Executable",
> > Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.
> > I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
> 
>  use GPEDIT on Pro.

I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides, 
I don't think that would actually remove the process.
I bet you can't do it.
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            Anonymous│anon@anon_com  qfsn13$9a2$1@neodome.net
          AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfteh6$v2u$1@dont-email.me
        J_O_Aho│user@example_net  gof1o0Fh1ddU1@mid.individual.net
      Anonymous│anon@anon_com  qfu6cs$q06$1@neodome.net
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfvuh7$svc$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--11.29am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server
    ╱ 3  m42 Cool; 44.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  8 { 10:29am, 2019 }:11^(-6)  XΒsх
      Debian 10 "buster" released

> Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
> will restart automatically.

If anyone knows how to kill  "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.
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          MsNadegda  qfumt6$5r9$6@dont-email.me
        Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378c8af22130a6a64ae@news.altopia.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--2.21am.Seattle.2019
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378d182b131f54994ba@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--11.08am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m648 Mad; 21 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jul  8 { 10: 7am, 2019 }:27^(-7)  XΒpɗ
      FDIC-insured banks were unfazed.

Checky replied ( to me ):
> > Checky sold his rental property and bought gold ? !
> 
> I haven't had rental property in quite a few years, 
> and dealing with the low life renters is 
> something I haven't missed one bit.

Preach ! !

Call me haughty, and a pompous twat ( because I just am, sadly );
but I don't like babysitting, cleaning toilets, vacuuming, etc.;
I wish I enjoyed it, because then I'd be set for life, but I don't.

> Money in the bank is money that can be taken, regardless of what 
> the ridiculously underfunded FDIC would like us all to believe.

The 2008 recession killed off Lehman Brothers and trashed
Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch ( tricky "shadow banks" );
-- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac still haven't recovered;
but (my*) FDIC-insured banks were unfazed.  [ * I'm an ABA guy ]

> The few Millennials who actually have any desire to buy 
> a home are trending towards Montana these days.

Renting a tiny room in shared housing is quite a bit cheaper
than owning a big-ass home ( when not babysitting renters );
and I'm next to the University of Washington, North Seattle.

Condos are way more expensive, and come with high fees.
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        😉_Good_Guy_😉│Hello_World  qfu0e4$l6r$1@news.mixmin.net
      😉_Good_Guy_😉│Hello_World  qfu0l3$l6r$2@news.mixmin.net
    Idaho_Homo_Joe│dick_lick@aol_  qfu2ro$5c8$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--5.48am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m2 Cool; 12.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jul  7 {  5:30pm, 2019 }:49^(-4)  XΑϳn
      MacroHard for MicroSoft.

Idaho_Homo_Joe:
> Since I've purchased a new gaming pc
> with Microsoft Windows 10, my penis
> quivers whenever I see the Microsoft logo.

I'm MacroHard for MicroSoft.
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      MsNadegda  qfumt6$5r9$6@dont-email.me
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.378c8af22130a6a64ae@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--2.21am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m641 Mad; 10.5 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jul  8 {   : 4am, 2019 }:53^(-7)  XΑфг
      I've never been so depressed.

Checky sold his rental property and bought gold ? !

From April 2018 to April 2019, Seattle's "year-over-year home price change"
shrunk from 13.8% growth to a 0.0% flatline.  Over the same time frame, 
San Francisco fell from 10.9% to 1.8% ( annual gains ).

Humble Tacoma has overtaken Seattle as the hottest housing market in the nation.
Most of them will have to commute 50 miles to Seattle; a 100 mile round-trip.

I'm getting few takers for my rooming house, these days;
I've never been so depressed.  And the QUALITY of my (young) renters
has gone way, way down.
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    MsNadegda  qfumt6$5r9$6@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.8--1.37am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  7 { 11:12pm, 2019 }:54  XΑмs
      Destroying the market, impoverishing everyone.

Ms Nadegda:
> [ buy a farm; in South Africa, perhaps ].

South Africa is confiscating white farms.
Like Venezuela, they're chasing-out their best+brightest,
destroying the market, impoverishing everyone.

> [ the beginning of a U.S. yield curve inversion ]

Socialist Europe is far worse.

In France, 10-year bonds yield -0.13%
The European Central Bank's deposit rate is now -0.40%;
inflation subtracts another 1.2%.  Gold prices are rising.

The last time the U.S. yield curve started to invert
was the start of 2005, as Bush Jr. was starting his second term.  

3+ years later, mid-2008, the recession BEGAN, and Obama was voted in.

Unemployment is near a historic low.
The S&P 500 is up 17% for the year.
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              MrAA  2ece6870-66b9-4e9c-8df0-07f0baa0f676@googlegroups.com
            JimPennino  kd2tuf-p8r.ln1@mail.specsol.com
          HerbertGlazier  ec61f231-8fe4-444f-8603-ad77b3320972@googlegroups.com
        JimPennino  bdm4vf-0ml.ln1@mail.specsol.com
      HerbertGlazier  9f251ab9-64a6-4ba7-8fc9-f2ff1f84b1f4@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  4c8e7207-5fcd-4bb8-9f21-bb0d55c0b820@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m155 Top; 2.5 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jul  7 {  2:42pm, 2019 }:48^(PDT)  XΑςm
      If life were a Monopoly game, Bert would be on "Free Parking".

Bert:
> My office is at the Senior Center; I park in back.
> No need to waste time or gas.  Vons is a block away, as is CVS,
> UPS, China take out, and Jack-in-the-Box. 

If life were a Monopoly game, Bert would be on "Free Parking".
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      HerbertGlazier  66d554c0-7db7-4943-8035-9a28b9319f04@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  bbc719be-6057-4cc0-8077-8a3a3bac923b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m68 Top; 1.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul  7 {  3:19pm, 2019 }:46^(PDT)  XΑψɪ
      When you die, who's going to claim your assets ?

MrAA:
> I bought Merck and Pfizer stock !
> If you can't beat them, .....

When you die, who's going to claim your assets ?
the state ?

You're supposed to save (climb) when you're young, 
and cash-out (fall) when you're old;
you're doing the opposite.
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      HerbertGlazier  02f8e28b-9b47-4960-a367-b3f2f78cc936@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  05599fee-c883-44b8-80da-ac5e8664f930@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--7.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m68 Top; 2.1 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul  7 {  3: 8pm, 2019 }:20^(PDT)  XΑφʌ
      Time tracks entropy.

MrAA:
> the ticks of quantum time are the most uncertain !

The microwaves emitted by a super-cooled, 
laser-stimulated, cesium atom are _ extremely predictable.

To observe a quantum particle, you need (virtual) photons;
problem is, they disturb the thing that you're observing.

Time tracks entropy.

Entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
Our  hot/dense  sun evaporates into the  cold/sparse  vacuum,
losing 4.3 million tons each second.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--6.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
      "How diodes, LEDs and solar panels work".

"How diodes, LEDs and solar panels work":   
http://Youtube.COM/watch?v=TGUteH93xNo

"Blue LEDs and the 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics":
http://Youtube.COM/watch?v=_DjHR4PWYOs
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            HerbertGlazier  3028399a-710b-495f-b3d9-f5d9270439d8@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  2ece6870-66b9-4e9c-8df0-07f0baa0f676@googlegroups.com
        JimPennino  kd2tuf-p8r.ln1@mail.specsol.com
      HerbertGlazier  ec61f231-8fe4-444f-8603-ad77b3320972@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  56759f6a-4c95-468e-a655-37f3ca804108@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.7--6.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m68 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul  7 {  2:58pm, 2019 }:49^(PDT)  XΑτЯ
      Fallers get taxed+regulated; climbers, not so much.

MrAA:
> The uber rich, like Bill Gates, are allowed to openly 
> accumulate billions without it ever being taxed !
> 
> The working stiff is taxed on dollar 1, 
> and every additional dollar at an ever increasing rate !
> Who set things up this way ?  

Creating a billion-dollar company is like climbing a mountain;
the government taxes+regulates your business, not you personally.

So long as you're living in a filthy hole-in-the-ground, 
wearing dirty rags, eating ramen, and limping around, alone,
no one cares if you're technically a billionaire.

Cashing out, and buying fully-staffed mansions+yachts+jets,
including 14-year-old masseuses, all over the world, is falling.
Fallers get taxed+regulated; climbers, not so much.

Imagine the reverse, like what you see in Iran and Venezuela;
everyone would be a faller, not a climber.
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        T│T@invalid_invalid  qfpmb3$hj2$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.6--7.02am.Seattle.2019
    T│T@invalid_invalid  qfrgt1$89j$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.6--7.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 4  m82 Cool; 28.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  6 {  6:12pm, 2019 }:  ^(-7)  XΑC0
      Tell the customer that he has to close Firefox.

> > close Firefox before backing up a Profile
> 
> customer leaves his computer running 24/7  :'(

Tell the customer that he has to close Firefox.
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              .  b458f6306924bada8af50ceffbd1da2b@dizum.com
            .  qfnk3l$13q$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--9.15am.Seattle.2019
        Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qfo090$8s1$1@dont-email.me
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qfqqht$5ov$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qfr9ff$bgt$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.6--6.25pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 2  m4 Shifty; 1.7 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  6 {  4: 5pm, 2019 }:16^(-6)  Xʯწъ
      Thought precedes action.

> > Dems use identity politics, and HATE other groups,
> > their message is clear and unamerican.
> 
> You are truly indoctrinated in the far fight political psycho game.
> Sad that you forgot how to make your own decisions. :(

Your strawman doesn't hold up.

This genuinely worries me, as thought precedes action:

" Duped academic journal publishes rewrite
  of ‘Mein Kampf’ as feminist manifesto "
https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/

  the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal 
  terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was 
  evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers.  
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          MitchellRaemsch  54f870f3-cbd4-4e5c-929e-040b4204e708@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  8a49fa23-f098-48cd-bad7-fff9d5bbe754@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  qfosa9$1lls$1@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  217b6da1-d50d-4d9d-be51-e7107a65018d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.6--0.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m145 Top; 18.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jul  6 {   :11pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT)  Xʯхჳ
      I'm NOT into sex|money, not with men nor women.

Holy Men, such as Jesus+Buddha, are famous for NOT being into sex|money.

I'm NOT into sex|money, not with men nor women.

You can make accusations, Bert, but you can't prove it.
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    T│T@invalid_invalid  qfpmb3$hj2$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.6--7.02am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m80 Cool; 4.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  6 {  1:32am, 2019 }:33^(-7)  Xʯζʙ
      Close Firefox before backing up my Profile.

> AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\xxx\places.sqlite 
>     Read timed out.
> The customer leaves Firefox running 24/7
> 
> A backup using Cobian to a local FTP server that normally 
> takes 20 minutes was taking over 24 hours.

I always close Firefox before backing up my Profile;
I "RoboCopy" backup my entire profile, 
and select files are uploaded to my FTP server.
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          David_Dalton│dalton@nfld_com  0001HW.22CC791802DC673F700004C302CF@news.eternal-september.org
        EdProchak  542a6d12-279f-4fb5-9659-852e1127f38f@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.3--1.01pm.Seattle.2019
    EdProchak  7feecae2-9891-4840-845d-46816a2141ab@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--2.38pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m36 Top; 3.7 Hours, GoogleG, 65.36.54.181,  Jul  5 { 10:43am, 2019 }:49^(PDT)  Xʯvɭ
      Sam Wormley's hysteria isn't justified; we should be happy with what we got.

Ed Prochak asked me:
> > How much time do we have left, before the end ?
> 
> Sustainability is even reaching corporate concern, 
> so even the  MBAs are paying attention.  Why aren't you ?

I don't have a car, I have no vehicle,
I don't ride the bus, no public transportation, no taxis, no planes.
I WALK to the grocery store ( with a wagon, if needed ).

I don't go to restaurants; 90% of what I spend is for
the rooming-house that I manage.

No matter what I do, no matter what you do, no matter what the U.S. does,
it won't not change Asia, nor will it extend our stay here, on this planet.
Sam Wormley's hysteria isn't justified; we should be happy with what we got.
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            Bradley_K_Sherman│bksherman  b458f6306924bada8af50ceffbd1da2b@dizum.com
          .  qfnk3l$13q$1@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--9.15am.Seattle.2019
      Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qfo090$8s1$1@dont-email.me
    Buffalo│phoney@physco_invalid_  qfo1l0$h2i$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m3 Cool; 3.5 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  5 { 10:33am, 2019 }:13^(-6)  XʯtΣ
      This genuinely worries me.

Buffalo:
> > Democrats are sexist
> 
> Sorry for not doing my spell check and 
> for posting political bs in this Win10 NG.

This genuinely worries me, as thought precedes action:

" Duped academic journal publishes rewrite
  of ‘Mein Kampf’ as feminist manifesto "
https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/

  the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal 
  terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was 
  evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers.  
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              Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle  qfjfa7$1mma$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Johnny│johnny@invalid_net  20190703190840.2e720585@jspc
          T│T@invalid_invalid  qfjk9p$5u7$1@dont-email.me
        s|b│me@privacy_invalid  go72qcFpj88U1@mid.individual.net
      Ken_Blake│Ken@invalid_news_com  bnlshe19ue9vjchgnn41tddnbv3g0vdcuk@4ax.com
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  qflqpk$kci$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--10.21am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m182 Mad; 15.3 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  4 {  2:24pm, 2019 }: 6^(-4)  Xʮο6
      My solution was to download+install v1903.

Paul replied:
> > > > M$'s updates are a nightmare. 
> 
> I find most of the time, using a Catalog.Update.Microsoft.COM
> version of a KBxxxxxxx update (a .MSU file), most always
> clears a logjam. 
> 
> The situation is "manageable", but hardly a reason
> for an Oscar trophy.
> 
> Now the people who leave their failed updates in a
> big pile, and you find two years worth of failures...

I like to update my Windows 10 PC every 6 months or so.
For 6 months, I couldn't update it (  v1803 ).

My solution was to download+install v1903
( C:\Windows10Upgrade\Windows10UpgraderApp.EXE );
after which, I had to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
as that's what I always call it.

Also, I had to re-take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-,
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
Re-Merge-In my settings ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT ), 
check for updates, ReBoot, and -Manually- change .JPG and .PNG file
associations using "Open With".

Also, I had to re-format all of my File-Explorer folders,
so they look the way I want.  Likely, I'm doing something(s) wrong.
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      Bradley_K_Sherman│bksherman  b458f6306924bada8af50ceffbd1da2b@dizum.com
    Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_  qfnk3l$13q$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--9.15am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m46 Cool; 1.8 Hours, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  5 {  6:41am, 2019 }:51^(-4)  XʯGჭ
      Democrats are sexist.

Democrats are sexist ( they hate straight males like Hitler hated Jews ), 
racist ( they denigrate whites ), jealous ( they despise the rich ),
stupid ( they think China, India and Russia can+will be "green" ) 
hypocrites ( they heap taxes+regulations on the poorest ).

"Green" Germany is heavily dependent on brown coal:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Germany%27s_electricity_generation_by_major_fuel%2C_energy_sources_and_share_of_electricity_generation_by_fuel%2C_energy_source%2C_from_2000_through_2017_%2847958295396%29.png

Venezuela, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea and Cuba are far greener
( because they chased-out their best+brightest ).
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              Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  jqqqhe1buavaea4t6peipg459fitold2dv@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  bfe690b2-e799-4c49-b74c-e3a276289235@googlegroups.com
          Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  oj1rhedt0fsvvp63qlmqolifgcv7djcf2j@4ax.com
        SteveCarroll  a859ebfc-d2cc-4351-ac6f-84f43f80ef1c@googlegroups.com
      Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  1i8shel1tqvg67q9c1emj0qhulkn8rvid0@4ax.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qflble$nqd$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.4--10.33am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 3  m34 Cool; 4.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  4 { 10: 5am, 2019 }:51^(-6)  Xʮʪჭ
      Rewrite of "Mein Kampf" as feminist manifesto.

If it wasn't for "white male oppressors", 
Joel would be living a wonderful life... or so he says.

" Duped academic journal publishes rewrite
  of ‘Mein Kampf’ as feminist manifesto "
https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/

  the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal 
  terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was 
  evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers.  
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      David_Dalton│dalton@nfld_com  0001HW.22CC791802DC673F700004C302CF@news.eternal-september.org
    EdProchak  542a6d12-279f-4fb5-9659-852e1127f38f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.3--1.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m34 Top; 3.6 Hours, GoogleG, 65.36.54.181,  Jul  3 {  9:16am, 2019 }:48^(PDT)  XʭШЮ
      How much time do we have left, before the end ?

Ed Prochak:
> changing climate will require global changes.

How much time do we have left, before the end ?

Are you barking orders, Ed Prochak ? 
hoping China, India, Russia,
and everyone else, will jump to your commands ?

Or are you leading by example ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--6.51pm.Seattle.2019
            Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  u4jnhet6lobjo155pn0m6lft8u702mie2f@4ax.com
          SteveCarroll  4cd89141-2c01-46c2-947e-ac85bd84ba38@googlegroups.com
        Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  j7lnhehi13flfldo7t33ojuog28se9hcga@4ax.com
      SteveCarroll  3d125005-8b8a-4255-94b8-55ae2f645e06@googlegroups.com
    Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  dmnnhetai6a7m28d172ubms596u9loo5iu@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.2--9.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m195 Dropped; 4.8 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  2 {  3:50pm, 2019 }:21^(-4)  Xʭɬʍ
      Snit only accepts gifts, not obligations.

Native Americans should be extremely grateful for 
being on this side of the border; the rest is up to them.

You (Snit) only accept gifts, not obligations.
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfe1do$s3d$1@dont-email.me
            SteveCarroll  68b7714a-27be-4e02-94da-df8984e712c1@googlegroups.com
          TheSnitBot  gnvj47F6gr1U1@mid.individual.net
        SteveCarroll  f54ad1f2-f028-4cf8-be40-593e964d2ff0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--6.51pm.Seattle.2019
    Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  u4jnhet6lobjo155pn0m6lft8u702mie2f@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.2--8.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m195 Dropped; 6.1 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul  2 {  2:29pm, 2019 }:57^(-4)  Xʭɞჳ
      You do it, for others.

Snit replied ( to me ):
> > Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet,
> > thou shalt not preoccupy yourself with absurd strawmen.
> 
> The entire country was stolen by white people, 

Handed to you on a platter, for free.
You're welcome.

> now you want to quote the fucking Bible

You have no obligations, no spoiled-brat ever does.
You have rights, end of story.

Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet; yet you do.

I don't have to confine myself to the Bible; 
Buddhism finds you just as guilty.  Buddha says:
Lust ( for money, sex, and/or longevity ) is foolish.

Instead, help thieving junkies, 
the lost (strays), and the depressed.

You do it, for others.

Be happy with what you've got, no matter how little.
We're better off than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
for 99% of human existence, most never made it to age 16;
so anything past that is pure gravy.
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              SteveCarroll  f54ad1f2-f028-4cf8-be40-593e964d2ff0@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--6.51pm.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  df05d931-37c3-4dc9-afad-8aa9c4ca3488@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  js0nhetrdp8m4qac3190p89kjm7at185hn@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  go1fqeFj10oU2@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  44d3962c-929f-466e-a169-1d1599e0b0fd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.2--8.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 16  m161 Cool; 6.8 Hours, GoogleG,  Jul  2 {  1:46pm, 2019 }:50^(PDT)  Xʭɗа
      Snit has rights, not obligations.

Snit has rights, not obligations.

He's a spoiled brat, it's a first world problem.
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  b62lhe5mb6s4k2rj3ipn0nn3afevcshdd9@4ax.com
            TheSnitBot  gnvj7sF6gr1U3@mid.individual.net
          RatchetJaw│RatchetJaw@mail_com  XJwSE.15370$OM5.14290@fx15.iad
        Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.378451a1fa5acd66989f2e@news.eternal-september.org
      RatchetJaw│RatchetJaw@mail_com  2BxSE.746$KR4.341@fx31.iad
    SteveCarroll  b04a2948-3a76-4a60-9a19-42ad5701ecf4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--7.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m177 Mad; 23.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jul  1 {  5:34pm, 2019 }: 1^(PDT)  Xʬϳϡ
      Snit says he's disabled, and I believe him.

RatchetJaw wrote:
> > Snit Michael Glasser is capable of working

"All evidence to the contrary", you should add.

He says he's disabled, and I believe him.
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfdkur$gki$1@dont-email.me
            SteveCarroll  c0516fba-b27a-4652-a738-de848fa71f0f@googlegroups.com
          AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qfe1do$s3d$1@dont-email.me
        SteveCarroll  68b7714a-27be-4e02-94da-df8984e712c1@googlegroups.com
      TheSnitBot  gnvj47F6gr1U1@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  f54ad1f2-f028-4cf8-be40-593e964d2ff0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--6.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m177 Mad; 58 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jul  1 {  4:59pm, 2019 }:27^(PDT)  Xʬϟვ
      Snit's strawman "worships the rich".

Snit's strawman "worships the rich", 
and he can't take his eyes off of it;
for him, there is no other reality, nothing worth noting.

Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet,
thou shalt not preoccupy yourself with absurd strawmen.
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        MrAA  4c98f241-417b-4f6a-8416-1b0ae736daaf@googlegroups.com
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qfd6tg$1dql$4@gioia.aioe.org
    MrAA  fab959d0-24ec-48dd-b581-46fd7910ecb4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--6.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m62 Top; 2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jul  1 {  3:54pm, 2019 }:45^(PDT)  Xʬϕj
      Oregon Democrats reject Al Gore's apocalypse cult.

Oregon Democrats reject Al Gore's apocalypse cult:

   OregonLive.COM/politics/2019/06/how-oregons-climate-change-bill-ran-out-of-gas.html

They aren't as dumb as they look, apparently.

Progressives-Cum-Regressives are laser-focused on Trump's wallet;
nothing could possibly make them look more retarded.  Thou shalt not covet.
Instead, they should be treating thieving junkies, depression and detachment.
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              TheSnitBot  gnhq7hF79aeU1@mid.individual.net
            AnAnonymousCreep  W9udnVYDH6JFLo7AnZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com
          Joel│joelcrump@hotmale_com  qf0cv8$1bn1$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Harry│Harry@yehoo_com  FnTQE.41219$xB4.37776@fx02.iad
      MrChrisV  rn0khe1gdtl049qir2vghhrk684lpjjqaj@4ax.com
    HerbertGlazier  249ab582-c911-4a26-928f-2046ca415cc8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--2.44pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m112 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jul  1 {   :40pm, 2019 }:24^(PDT)  XʬΦЖ
      Happiness is an empty bladder.

Bert:
> I could not pee.  Wore a catheter for 3 years.

What a nightmare.
Happiness is an empty bladder.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  h3iSE.6903$s53.6485@fx33.iad
            Kensi  qfcf0h$1ugi$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  bFjSE.116336$qW.25086@fx43.iad
        Kensi  qfcjof$l8p$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--2.55am.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qfcpm4$1gj4$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--4.33am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 1  m156 Cool; 17.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jul  1 {  4: 9am, 2019 }:55^(2)  Xʬɯϛ
      You're going to die, same as everyone else.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > The more absurd the taxes+regulations game gets, the fewer the players;
> > Al Capone, for example, did well outside of it.
> 
> ... until he got jailed tax evasion.  *snicker*

Al Capone was physically gone, thanks to syphilis,
long before he was jailed.

You're going to die, same as everyone else.
You can tell yourself there's an afterlife, 
to make yourself feel better, but it's not true.

We're better off than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
for 99% of human existence, most never made it to age 16;
so anything past that is pure gravy.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  hjFRE.7$qC7.5@fx11.iad
            Kensi  qfbuks$1n5p$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  h3iSE.6903$s53.6485@fx33.iad
        Kensi  qfcf0h$1ugi$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  bFjSE.116336$qW.25086@fx43.iad
    Kensi  qfcjof$l8p$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--2.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m154 Cool; 14.6 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jul  1 {  2:28am, 2019 }:46^(2)  XʬɞЬ
      The market squishes "Kensi's" like a bug.

The more absurd the taxes+regulations game gets, the fewer the players;
Al Capone, for example, did well outside of it.

In the end, the market squishes "Kensi's" like a bug.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3780918bfd56dd64349@news.altopia.com
            MsNadegda  qf6vhh$2u3$72@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3780b3599eeb77a534e@news.altopia.com
        Kensi  qf74iq$r31$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3780bb5c9a5c1928358@news.altopia.com
    Kensi  qfcf4r$1ugi$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--2.34am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m152 Cool; 51.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jul  1 {  1:10am, 2019 }: 2^(2)  Xʬɑϰ
      Kenzi and AOC think they can better Amazon, they're wrong.

Kenzi and AOC think they can better Amazon, they're wrong.

The market decides what's best, not Kenzi.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--0.01am.Seattle.2019
            Rana│Frog@lycemail_org  2j3SE.4397$0F7.1026@fx25.iad
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  bjghhep0ph6nnprc9lj93uvn3vu372m6fa@4ax.com
        Kensi  qfbvri$1se2$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37832bc6caf38e813c0@news.altopia.com
    Kensi  qfc28p$4v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--11.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  m148 Cool; 1.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 30 {  9:30pm, 2019 }:16^(2)  XʬjG
      Jeff Bezos drives a 4'000$ 1996 Honda Accord.

Kensi replied ( to Checkmate ):
> > > The top ONE percent get nearly 30% of income!
> > 
> > And how do you propose to take it from them?
> 
> restructuring things so that the CEO types don't give 
> themselves such ridiculously huge salaries in the first place.
> ...at gunpoint.

Jeff Bezos drives a 4'000$ 1996 Honda Accord.

2018, his salary was a 81'840$, 
not counting (essential) benefits, like security+health.

Women like Kinsey have no idea how cheap billionaires can+must be.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--0.01am.Seattle.2019
            Rana│Frog@lycemail_org  2j3SE.4397$0F7.1026@fx25.iad
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  bjghhep0ph6nnprc9lj93uvn3vu372m6fa@4ax.com
        Rana│Frog@lycemail_org  ED3SE.4075$Kf5.1835@fx42.iad
      Klaus_Schadenfreude│  95jhhe1799n5b0dfuil9ouanrr8danevl7@4ax.com
    Rana│Frog@lycemail_org  Yi4SE.5413$GS1.3120@fx48.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--9.44am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m8 Shifty; 1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jun 30 {  8:11am, 2019 }:52  XʫНხ
      Thou shalt not covet.

Rana:
> I'm a Libertarian who in no way believes in wealth redistribution.

Thou shalt not steal.

> I believe the system should not be rigged in favor of the wealthy though. 
> It should be fair to all.

Thou shalt not covet.

Progressives-Cum-Regressives are laser-focused on Trump's wallet;
nothing could possibly make them look more retarded.  Thou shalt not covet.
Instead, they should be treating thieving junkies, depression and detachment.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  NNDRE.573$XI3.6@fx39.iad
            Kensi  qf73pk$nej$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--0.01am.Seattle.2019
        Rana│Frog@lycemail_org  2j3SE.4397$0F7.1026@fx25.iad
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  bjghhep0ph6nnprc9lj93uvn3vu372m6fa@4ax.com
    Rana│Frog@lycemail_org  ED3SE.4075$Kf5.1835@fx42.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--9.34am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  m8 Shifty; 1.8 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jun 30 {  7:25am, 2019 }:40  XʫЖɤ
      Ms Rana is too good for Amazon ?!

Ms Rana is too good for Amazon ?!

What is she doing instead ?
lying in bed, strung out on heroin ?!

If Jeff Bezos was poorer, Ms Rana would be better off ?!

Thou shalt not covet.

We're better off than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
for 99% of human existence, most never made it to age 16;
so anything past that is pure gravy.

"Progressive" is actually "Regressive", at times.

"Make America Great Again" resonates with old-fashioned country folk.

"First-world Problems" include heroin, depression and detachment;
no family, no discipline, just "strays" wandering around, unloved.
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  rh59het5jp5d5icr4l46h9rdtkm4lbhhnq@4ax.com
            MsNadegda  qf4c7i$2u3$57@dont-email.me
          Klaus_Schadenfreude│  vl4chep93cebfv7jtf6bq81ijj0fi9n0r6@4ax.com
        MsNadegda  qf6glq$2u3$65@dont-email.me
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  NNDRE.573$XI3.6@fx39.iad
    Kensi  qf73pk$nej$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.30--0.01am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m136 Cool; 23.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 29 {   :25am, 2019 }:32^(2)  Xʪшɜ
      Amazon is subject to taxes+regulations.

Kensi asked:
> how much did Amazon pay in corporate taxes last year, hmm ?

Amazon is subject to taxes+regulations, you retard.

New York would love to have Amazon; AOC chased them away.
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  rh59het5jp5d5icr4l46h9rdtkm4lbhhnq@4ax.com
            MsNadegda  qf4c7i$2u3$57@dont-email.me
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  ZzkRE.26201$UC4.922@fx03.iad
        MsNadegda  qf6ggh$2u3$64@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3780905587ae47fe348@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qf6vfc$2u3$71@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.29--11.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m223 Mad; 23.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 28 { 11:11pm, 2019 }:57  Xʪлჳ
      What are your boyfriends like, Ms Nadegda ?!

Ms Nadegda:
> if we win, I get contraception coverage, and if we don't, 
> I quit, I pack my things, and it's off to New Zealand I go.

What are your boyfriends like, Ms Nadegda ?!
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  vl4chep93cebfv7jtf6bq81ijj0fi9n0r6@4ax.com
            MsNadegda  qf6glq$2u3$65@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3780918bfd56dd64349@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qf6vhh$2u3$72@dont-email.me
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  YSDRE.13$vU3.1@fx37.iad
    Kensi  qf73nj$nej$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.29--11.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m136 Cool; 22.4 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 29 {   :24am, 2019 }:27^(2)  XʪшR
      No family, No discipline, just "strays" wandering around, unloved.

Sometimes, "progressive" is actually "regressive".

"Make America Great Again" resonates with old-fashioned country folk.

"First-world Problems" include heroin, depression and detachment;
no family, no discipline, just "strays" wandering around, unloved.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.29--3.24am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      The urethral meatus+shaft is _in_ the vaginal canal.

Contrary to what YouTube's Dr. Lindsey Doe says+draws,
the urethral meatus+shaft is _in_ the vaginal canal,
hanging down into the opening, from the rim.

See the following PHOTOS ( Not Safe For Work ):

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Pee.Hole.In.The.Vagina.1.JPG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Pee.Hole.In.The.Vagina.2.JPG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Cervix.In.The.Vagina.JPG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG

.   Laying on your back, the pee hole+shaft forms the roof of the vagina;
    it gets turgid, and hangs down, as the photos show.

    You say it's located "in the vestibule of the vulva",
    but how would anyone know if they weren't a gynecologist ?
    photographic proof is well censored ( for obvious reasons ).

    Congratulations on the RV+trip, thanks for sharing.
    My motto: "Happiness is an empty bladder".
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      SamWormley  ded6d6a9-9bb4-44a0-a0ab-b82384cb4b5a@googlegroups.com
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qf3n5h$1vup$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--7.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m163 Mad; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 27 {  5:31pm, 2019 }:36^(-5)  Xʪ5ɠ
      We've got better things to do.

Sam Wormley:
> > 33% of Americans said that climate change was a "very serious problem".
> > 38% believed they'll be harmed by it.
> > [ Why won't they join my apocalypse cult ? ]

Because we've got better things to do, quite obviously.
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        SamWormley  0eefbece-a7a0-4292-b2c0-e1142af88a69@googlegroups.com
      SamWormley  715a7df1-90ae-4917-80e9-dcbe63051cb5@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  f61edc15-1fe2-46f9-b981-3210572ffd15@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--7.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m98 Top; 5.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 27 {  7:26pm, 2019 }:27^(PDT)  XʪOʓ
      Super-Green Germany prefers brown-dirty coal over nukes and natural gas.

Every year, gasoline has to be "cleaner" costing you more, Bert.
You blame "the GOP Mafia", because you don't know who's doing it.

Ironically, 
super-green Germany prefers brown-dirty coal over nukes and natural gas.
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      SamWormley  e14a34fe-4f12-4de5-8671-cf43a73ff9ce@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  0477455c-8c57-4f2c-b1ed-51afbc983e22@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--5.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m95 Top; 6.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 27 { 10:33am, 2019 }:58^(PDT)  XʩеϞ
      Democrats have better locations but higher taxes+regulations.

Bert:
> To hurt China shop at Target...

Why hurt China ?

Target is just as "Made in China" as Walmart.

Target has better locations but higher prices.

> and vote Democrat

Democrats are just as "Made in China" as Republicans.

Democrats have better locations but higher taxes+regulations.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--8.48pm.Seattle.2019
            AnAnonymousCreep  NOmdnZt2O_WCoInAnZ2dnUU7-UnNnZ2d@giganews.com
          PeeScent  cau45f.qrb.17.7@news.alt.net
        Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377e02a324d7d7872c5@news.altopia.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--3.21am.Seattle.2019
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377e52c3bfe0ce3c2c9@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--6.38am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 2  m609 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jun 27 {  5:13am, 2019 }:27^(-7)  Xʩϰɗ
      Many gays and lesbians are applauded for solid reasons.

Soph is a genuine "AnCap" ( Anarcho-Capitalist ) but too innocent.
I'm no fan of girly-boys, but I don't think they're evil;
many gays and lesbians are applauded for solid reasons.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.28pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  qf0ieq$r42$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--1.08pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  qf0ofj$mmv$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--9.50pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  qf1kir$7ds$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--4.20am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m102 Dropped; 5.2 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jun 26 { 10:35pm, 2019 }:23  Xʩʯბ
      Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be.

Michael Moroney told me:
> OK, so you don't have an answer.

I've thought long+hard about what questions to ask,
what the answers might be; so I'm not surprised that
they're nothing like what you've come up with.

> You are probably robotically repeating a mantra,
> written without thought,

I appear random and inconsequential to you, so what ?!
I don't have to be you, and you don't have to be me.

> " Randomness is ignorance "

Too often, we discover that yesterday's " apparent randomness "
was actually just "ignorance".

> " Nature programmed us to consume, same as the sun "

What about it ? are you saying it's not true ?
Who made me think this way, Hillary ?

> " gravity is dying off "

That's the consensus of cosmologists;
recent evidence suggests that a "Big Rip" is coming.

Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had
the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).

695 trillion suns.

Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
Our  hot/dense  sun evaporates into the  cold/sparse  vacuum,
losing 4.3 million tons each second.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.
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            MsNadegda  qf0v5c$2u3$53@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--8.48pm.Seattle.2019
        AnAnonymousCreep  NOmdnZt2O_WCoInAnZ2dnUU7-UnNnZ2d@giganews.com
      PeeScent  cau45f.qrb.17.7@news.alt.net
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377e02a324d7d7872c5@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.27--3.21am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m601 Dropped; 3.3 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate,  Jun 26 { 11:31pm, 2019 }:41^(-7)  XʩΚɥ
      " Be Not Afraid " -- GenZ Zoomer, Soph.

Checkmate replied ( to me ):
> > >   https://Twitter.COM/SewerNugget
> 
> " Be Not Afraid " -- GenZ Zoomer, Soph
> http://Youtube.COM/watch?v=vEaV8NsGG_I
>   https://www.bitchute.com/video/AsRIWjp2MDk/
> 
> Some fast-talking rant machine who calls herself Soph.

YouTube's "Soph", a.k.a. "LtCorbis", is Twitter's @SewerNugget.

> she's definitely not a libtard.

Yes, and it makes me hopeful Re: GenZ Zoomers.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.52am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  qf01ll$116$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.28pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  qf0ieq$r42$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--1.08pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  qf0ofj$mmv$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--9.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m103 Dropped; 3.6 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jun 26 {  2:35pm, 2019 }:47  Xʩɟჩ
      Most can't fathom 2 dimensions, much less 4.

Michael Moroney asked me:
> > The TimeScape is static because time is a spatial dimension.
> 
> Static with respect to which dimension/axis?

I'm talking metaphysics, not physics.

Most can't fathom 2 dimensions, much less 4;
like it or not, time is a spatial dimension.

And it doesn't matter to me that you don't like it,
I'm not going to cram my "truths" down your throat.
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        Kensi  qf1dkq$1nco$1@gioia.aioe.org
      AnAnonymousCreep  H-SdndGJW9kDoYnAnZ2dnUU7-aPNnZ2d@giganews.com
    Kensi  qf1fvj$1nco$7@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--9.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m129 Cool; 4.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 26 {  9:16pm, 2019 }:46^(2)  XʩʢЬ
      God forbid Finland should get warmer/greener.

Kensi:
> the worst climate change effects are showing up at the high latitudes, 
> including Finland.  Disappearing glaciers, disappearing sea ice, melting
> permafrost, infrastructure sinking into the ground like it was quicksand.

God forbid Finland should get warmer/greener... what a tragedy that would be.
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          MsNadegda  qf11a0$2u3$54@dont-email.me
        ScottDoty  gnig7tFas14U4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qf1egd$1nco$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--9.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 2  m125 Cool; 2.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 26 {  8:51pm, 2019 }:35^(2)  Xʩʞπ
      Women actually want periodic hyperinflation, to hide their shame.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > Kensi, Ms Nadegda, and other Million-Women-March types,
> > actually want periodic hyperinflation, to hide their shame.
> > They'd "disappear" millions of "strays" (kids), like Venezuela.
> 
> Please satisfy my curiosity: what drug were you on when you wrote that?

I'm sober enough to read what you wrote yesterday:

     Every 40 years we hold a jubilee: all debts wiped out, 
     and the richest are again emptied of funds to level things.
     Equality of opportunity will then reign.
          qeurd2$acg$1@gioia.aioe.org

You're promoting Nazi-style hyperinflation, Nazi.
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    MsNadegda  qf0v5c$2u3$53@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--8.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m229 Mad; 2.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 26 {  4:29pm, 2019 }:48  Xʩɲც
      Times have never been better, yet women can't be happy.

Ms Nadegda:
> Fucking boomers... it's all your fault.

Times have never been better, yet women can't be happy.

"Zoomers" (GenZ) aren't half as silly as Nadegda; 
to wit, this fourteen-year-old girl:

  https://Twitter.COM/SewerNugget
■
      MsNadegda  qf11a0$2u3$54@dont-email.me
    ScottDoty  gnig7tFas14U4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m158 Top; 1.6 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 26 {  5:17pm, 2019 }: 1  Xʩɺл
      Women actually want periodic hyperinflation, to hide their shame.

Scott Doty replied ( to Ms Nadegda ):
> > If you don't pay ... they will come to take 
> > what you owe them anyway, by force.
> > 
> > We are coming for you. In the dead of night, with torches and pitchforks.
> > None can yet know the exact hour, but it is soon.
> > Pleasant dreams, plutocrats. Pleasant dreams.   <snicker>
> 
> So what about those people who worked their fingers to the bone 
> -- suffering through scarcity and health issues from overwork 
> -- so that they have the ability to retire, finally ?
> Are you "coming for us" (tinu), too ?

Kensi, Ms Nadegda, and other Million-Women-March types,
actually want periodic hyperinflation, to hide their shame.
They'd "disappear" millions of "strays" (kids), like Venezuela.

Humans weren't designed to live past age 33 (prehistory);
most never made it to age 16; so anything past that is pure gravy.
We're vastly richer than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;

still, Democrats feel weak+powerless because they lust after money+power.

For thousands of years, all around the world, holy men have told us
that such desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".
■
              Kensi  qeus2k$acg$3@gioia.aioe.org
            Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  qev50m$1h87$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  qev52o$1h87$2@gioia.aioe.org
        ScottDoty  gnhlenF672rU1@mid.individual.net
      Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.377d4f0b1bf284bd989dcd@news.eternal-september.org
    ScottDoty  gniegcFas14U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--8.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 2  m158 Top; 2.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 26 {  4:47pm, 2019 }:24  Xʩɵგ
      ( Bill Maher-suppressed ) San Francisco will take the #1 spot.

Scott Doty:
> Property values are now higher in San Francisco than in Manhattan.

Quoting "BusinessInsider.COM", May 21, 2019:

  Deutsche Bank released its annual " Mapping the World's Prices" report,
  highlighting the average monthly rent for a typical two-bedroom apartment.

  Hong Kong is the world's most expensive [ #1: 3,685$/month ],
  while San Francisco is [ #2: 3,631$/month; Seattle: 2,510$/month ].

    https://www.businessinsider.com/most-expensive-cities-worldwide-to-rent-an-apartment-2019-5

Once Hong Kong has been fully-suppressed by mainland China,
( Bill Maher-suppressed ) San Francisco will take the #1 spot.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.52am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  qf01ll$116$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.28pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  qf0ieq$r42$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--1.08pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  gnieu7Fas14U3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--6.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m7 Top; 1.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 26 {  4:54pm, 2019 }:47  Xʩɷl
      The TimeScape is static because time is a spatial dimension.

> > We perceive a coin flip to be semi-random when, in fact, it's not.
> 
> Superdeterminism can't be falsified, 
> so by the standards of modern epistemology, it ain't science.

Yes, Einstein, called it "the cosmic religious sense";
in "New York Times Magazine", Nov 1930, he wrote:

  This is hard to make clear to those who do not 
  experience it, since it does not involve an 
  anthropomorphic idea of God; 

  the individual feels the vanity of human desires and aims, 
  and the nobility and marvelous order which are revealed 
  in nature and in the world of thought. 

  He feels the individual destiny as an imprisonment 
  and seeks to experience the totality of existence 
  as a unity full of significance.

  Indications of this cosmic religious sense can be found 
  even on earlier levels of development
  -- in the Psalms of David and in the Prophets, for example.

  The cosmic element is much stronger in Buddhism,
  as Schopenhauer's magnificent essays have shown us.

  The religious geniuses of all times have been distinguished
  by this cosmic religious sense, which recognizes neither 
  dogmas nor a God made in man's image. 

  Consequently there cannot be a church whose chief doctrines
  are based on the cosmic religious experience. 

  [ men inspired by this religious experience appear ] 
  to their contemporaries as atheists [or] saints. 
  Viewed from this angle, men like Democritus, 
  Francis of Assisi, and Spinoza are near to one another.  
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.52am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  qf01ll$116$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.28pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  qf0ieq$r42$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--1.08pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qf0p7a$13a2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--6.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 13  m179 Top; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 26 {  2:48pm, 2019 }:27^(-4)  XʩɢR
      Quantum effects dominate BenJacoby's brain.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > We perceive a coin flip to be semi-random when, in fact, it's not.
> 
> Actually it is Rolf, because at the Quantum level 
> nothing is deterministic.

Quantum effects are negligible in a coin toss.
Quantum effects are negligible in weather forecasts.
Quantum effects dominate Ben Jacoby's brain.
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.31am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  qf00cv$l4m$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.52am.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  qf01ll$116$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.28pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  qf0ieq$r42$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--1.08pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m100 Dropped; 5.7 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jun 26 {   :52pm, 2019 }:58  XʩɌи
      The TimeScape is static because time is a spatial dimension.

Michael Moroney asked me:
> > The TimeScape is static because time is a spatial dimension.
> 
> Static relative to WHAT ?

Compared to how us humans must perceive it.

We perceive a coin flip to be semi-random when, in fact, it's not.
■
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.56am.Seattle.2019
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gngpq6Fd1dU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.31am.Seattle.2019
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qf0cq0$1afq$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    +-, 1.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 26 { 11:16am, 2019 }:41^(-5)  XʩȴЧ
      ZOD can lick my grey pubes.

Sergio:
> Kneel Before ZOD !!

ZOD can lick my grey pubes.
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.56am.Seattle.2019
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gngpq6Fd1dU2@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.31am.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  qf00cv$l4m$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.52am.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  qf01ll$116$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m100 Dropped; 4.2 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jun 26 {  8: 6am, 2019 }:29  XʩVT
      The TimeScape is static because time is a spatial dimension.

The TimeScape is static because time is a spatial dimension.

Nature programmed us to sustainably consume, same as the sun.
■
              MsNadegda  qetsf2$2u3$48@dont-email.me
            Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.377c2ccb5d999c36989d8e@news.eternal-september.org
          PeeScent  caqkgn.toq.19.2@news.alt.net
        Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.377c2def40bece79989d93@news.eternal-september.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377c3f46104943cf298@news.altopia.com
    Kensi  qeurd2$acg$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m123 Cool; 14.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 25 {  9:13pm, 2019 }:17^(2)  XʨШɅ
      Kensi could help "disappear" millions of "strays" (kids).

Kensi:
> Every 40 years we hold a jubilee: all debts wiped out, 
> and the richest are again emptied of funds to level things.
> Equality of opportunity will then reign.

That's exactly what Venezuela and Brazil do, occasionally;
Kensi could help "disappear" millions of "strays" (kids).

They're doing the same thing that Nazi Germany did:
openly attacking their best and brightest;
-- and the result is the same:  hyperinflation.
■
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.56am.Seattle.2019
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gngpq6Fd1dU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.31am.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  qf00cv$l4m$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.52am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m98 Dropped; 1.3 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jun 26 {  7:44am, 2019 }:47  XʩRʧ
      Spinoza ( 1664, Netherlands ) and Einstein got it right.

Most people accept the fact that you can't change the past;
fewer understand that you can't change the future either.

Spinoza ( 1664, Netherlands ) and Einstein got it right.
■
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.56am.Seattle.2019
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gngpq6Fd1dU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.31am.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  qf07he555c27r81i9m9bvfs917hh1ogbqi@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.43am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m243 Dropped; 2.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jun 26 {  7:35am, 2019 }:10^(-4)  XʩPф
      "The Thing" that programmed us.

Greg replied ( to me ):
> > Most people think of evolution ( i.e. nature, not a person )
> > as "The Thing" that programmed us; in reality, 
> > the future is just as fixed the past, and everything is nothing.
> 
> mankind has the coded ability, via DNA,
> to eventually BE and DO as God did.
> 
> We humans will continue to evolve and become more 
> and more god like until we eventually figure out 
> how to create a universe of our own.

While such thinking may benefit you, it doesn't benefit me.

Certainly, I shouldn't push "science" down your throat;
no one benefits from that.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.56am.Seattle.2019
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gngpq6Fd1dU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--7.31am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m2 Top; 4.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun 26 {  1:48am, 2019 }: 6^(10)  Xʨზ6
      "The Thing" that programmed us.

Sylvia replied ( to me ):
> > Humans weren't designed to live past age 33 (prehistory);
> > most never made it to age 16; so anything past that is pure gravy.
> 
> Humans weren't designed.

Most people think of evolution ( i.e. nature, not a person )
as "The Thing" that programmed us; in reality, 
the future is just as fixed the past, and everything is nothing.

Do you agree ?
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.26--0.56am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
      Humans weren't designed to live past age 33 (prehistory).

Venezuela is doing the same thing that Nazi Germany did:
openly attacking its best and brightest;
-- and the result is the same:  hyperinflation.
What goes around, comes around -- it's karma.

Humans weren't designed to live past age 33 (prehistory);
most never made it to age 16; so anything past that is pure gravy.

We're vastly richer than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
still, Democrats feel weak+powerless because they lust after money+power.

For thousands of years, all around the world, holy men have told us
that such desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".

  Taming "strays" is expensive; and no one wants them;
  recently, globalization has exacerbated the problem.
■
              Pandora│pandora@peak_org  cankcl.fh1.17.1@news.alt.net
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  od52he5op5jn14rim8omj5mau0g57stddl@4ax.com
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377ac4c94f85faa7269@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qer98u$2u3$29@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--6.35pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qes6vu$dfk$7@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--11.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 9  m121 Cool; 12.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 24 {  9:12pm, 2019 }:43^(2)  Xʨgh
      At birth, Neolithic humans could expect to live 20 to 33 years.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > Human males weren't designed to live past age 19;
> > so anything past that is pure gravy.
> 
> WTF are you smoking?

" Chimpanzee life expectancy at birth is about 13 years; 
  whereas those reaching adulthood ( age 15 )
  have about 15 years of further life expectancy.  "
    -- PNAS.ORG/content/107/suppl_1/1718

At birth, Neolithic humans could expect to live 20 to 33 years;
like Chimps, those reaching adulthood ( age 15 )
have about 15 years of further life expectancy ( to 28–33 years ).
  -- Wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Life_expectancy#Variation_over_time
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  d1uvge5agssha673obica06nq8qi21rr4b@4ax.com
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qeov9q$9l7$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ta00he1d85lu6q5or4al88hf1v9c1edfvd@4ax.com
        Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3779c498cb288133254@news.altopia.com
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  t3p1he1mcfep9m094mnmp9533ec0lr345t@4ax.com
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qerulk$1dd3$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--7.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 6  m34 Cool; 10.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 24 {  6:50pm, 2019 }:51^(-5)  XʨIʫ
      When was the last time someone defeated China or Russia ?

Vietnam and North Korean are proxies for China and Russia.
When was the last time someone defeated China or Russia ?

I'd say that Hong Kong is losing its right to free speech,
but America also censors anyone who'd challenge Bill Maher.
■
            HerbertGlazier  26e2bbeb-2529-4e72-849c-b7fe0c472c56@googlegroups.com
          SamWormley  618ff08e-ba20-4270-a9c2-579623d912e4@googlegroups.com
        MitchellRaemsch  1144ab95-bc9d-4b10-83e1-77146f77cf64@googlegroups.com
      SamWormley  c839b108-aae2-457e-87cc-bf8625cd236a@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  23dde729-195d-4b9f-bbf1-5f88a7b06770@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--6.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m53 Top; 2.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jun 24 {  4: 2pm, 2019 }:36^(PDT)  Xʧწʜ
      Black holes aren't what they used to be.

Mr AA:
> Singularities have not been observed.

Singularities aren't observable.

Black Holes aren't what they used to be, billions of years ago.
■
              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377a0a983ba0140b25d@news.altopia.com
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  7do1he1mk3hq9lrj2qkc7n8v5nkpoqhlri@4ax.com
          Pandora│pandora@peak_org  cankcl.fh1.17.1@news.alt.net
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  od52he5op5jn14rim8omj5mau0g57stddl@4ax.com
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.377ac4c94f85faa7269@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qer98u$2u3$29@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--6.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 6  m210 Mad; 2.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 24 {   :45pm, 2019 }:34  Xʧыο
      The S&P 500 has risen 335% since March 9, 2009.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Checkmate ):
> > the 1930's weren't happy times for most people.
> 
> The 2010s are shaping up to be nearly as shabby for most people.

The S&P 500 has risen 335% since March 9, 2009;
-- oh the horror !!   ( 2,945.35 * 100 / 676.53 - 100 ) 

While Democrats are laser-focused on Trump's wallet,
hoping to get some of it, they've completely ignored the homeless.

We're vastly richer than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
still, Democrats feel weak+powerless because they lust after money+power.

For thousands of years, all around the world, holy men have told us
that such desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".

Note the "strays" in the world's poorest regions;
hordes of children with no parents, no homes, no rules, no chance. 
America is heading there.

Taming "strays" is expensive; and no one wants them;
so the trend won't reverse.  Globalization doesn't help.

Human weren't designed to live past age 33 (prehistory);
most never made it to age 16; so anything past that is pure gravy.
■
          HerbertGlazier  8aef01a9-e83c-4347-b690-84186c5f6765@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  77ed5adc-bf43-40ec-b82e-d8cc6505f21f@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  fd1eedd6-3418-471a-90c0-9a37ca95d58d@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  a27b860d-9348-4b70-9173-a6ff62c3673a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--3.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m51 Top; 53.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jun 24 {  2:36pm, 2019 }: 5^(PDT)  Xʧპ5
      Gravity is dying, entropy is killing it.

Mr AA:
> The age of 13.8 billion years is carved in basaltic rock
> in the TriMet MAX train tunnel through Portland's West Hills!

That's the age of THE KNOWN UNIVERSE;
i.e. how far we can see, the horizon.

Gravity is dying, entropy is killing it.
Eventually, the night sky will be void, totally black.
■
        Keith_Stein│keithstein111  ipuOE.32396$2U7.3060@fx02.am4
      rockbrentwood@gmail_com  a6c68cd5-50c5-4b81-9d40-1f5a6502ada8@googlegroups.com
    Helmut_Wabnig│hwabnig@_-_---_-_  klq0he9827nqsah3d34oof1mn672dnk31f@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--0.48pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m12 Cool; 12.5 Hours, F_Agent, Individual.NET,  Jun 23 { 11:19pm, 2019 }:38^(2)  XʧΘɢ
      The red pill ( harsh reality ).

The Copenhagen Interpretation, which includes many variants,
it is still the most widely accepted Interpretation.

Unfortunately, "shut up and calculate" is far less lucrative than
science fiction, where tiny little particles, flexing their muscles,
like Mighty Mouse, rapidly spit-out copies of our universe.

The red pill ( harsh reality ):

  "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
  changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
  Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).

  "God" ( nature, thermodynamics, evolution ) programmed us;
  " Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness per se;
  we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.
■
      SamWormley  4d31e2a9-18cd-4068-ae5a-bdfc801b2336@googlegroups.com
    rockbrentwood@gmail_com  49ae9b8c-e6e2-423f-bc28-3f5c792119d7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--0.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 3  m12 Cool; 14.4 Hours, GoogleG,  Jun 23 {  9:22pm, 2019 }:12^(PDT)  XʧʣϺ
      Surprisingly, Twitter is quite tolerant.

USENET has plain-text locked-down pretty good.
To avoid censorship, POST via "BlockNews.NET" or "Usenet-News.NET";
For speed, READ using "Individual.NET" or "Open-News-Network.ORG".

For videos, YouTube, Twitter and qBitTorrent work best.

YouTube bans satire when it thinks it might insight violence.
For example, YouTube banned this video:
  BitChute.COM/video/OdaUDeAGIck/

"BitChute.COM" requires JavaScript from 5+ servers;
to download a video, click the magnet icon, so it opens in qBitTorrent.

Surprisingly, Twitter is quite tolerant; see:
  Twitter.COM/sewernugget
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            SamWormley  afff8e98-f99a-452f-85f2-2557ed5fc7b9@googlegroups.com
          JimPennino  k4mgtf-5l6.ln1@mail.specsol.com
        EdProchak  a826cfed-4c58-4cfb-b4f5-3212c8969e98@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
    EdProchak  e0c4f071-1213-4c17-a50a-d486c5bb336a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--11.40am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    +Top, 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 65.36.54.181,  Jun 24 {  9:51am, 2019 }:53^(PDT)  XʧЮϙ
      Sam Wormley's apocalypse cult is very large and well armed.

Ed Prochak replied ( to me ):
> > Not everyone wants to join Sam's apocalypse cult,
> > nor would we allow him to rape & rob us at gunpoint.
> 
> Another one with only ad hominin attacks.
> This is sci.physics not sci.emotional_response.
> Come back when you have something useful to say.

Sam Wormley's apocalypse cult is very large and well armed,
and more emotional than me... excuse me for not just rolling over.

You're an old man, I assume; 
I'm surprised you're so gullible.
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          Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe@gmail_  2cf8e651-20c5-40ff-966d-15360a1be05e@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  fa983f7c-099b-48a9-9bb5-d873a53bbd71@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
    EdProchak  574b1572-5fb1-470b-ae3c-f097f5ad7b98@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--11.32am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m47 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 65.36.54.181,  Jun 24 { 10: 4am, 2019 }: 7^(PDT)  Xʧаϵ
      Evolution is not a person.

Ed Prochak replied ( to me ):
> > Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
> > "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
> > ( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.
> 
> Ah, so you accept the universe as an emulation hypothesis?

Nature is absolutely everything, from the tiniest to the largest,
seen or unseen; not human, evolution is not a person.

> > Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.
> 
> evidence?

The (growing) Hubble "Constant", especially recent quasar discoveries.
■
    HerbertGlazier  9334b382-4b17-4438-981e-7582dad4b1fa@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--6.49am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 6  m63 Top; 11.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 23 {  6:48pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT)  Xʧʊv
      Gravity is dying off, Lambda-CDM.

> We know gravity wins in the end.

No, gravity is dying off ( Lambda is growing ).

"Cold Dark Matter" (CDM) is super cold+sparse.

Lambda-CDM.
■
        HerbertGlazier  26e2bbeb-2529-4e72-849c-b7fe0c472c56@googlegroups.com
      MichaelMoroney  qep8mi$j35$3@pcls7.std.com
    HerbertGlazier  4a8dbaac-27a8-4319-8aac-603b67e9002a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.24--6.42am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 7  m63 Top; 11.9 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 23 {  6:34pm, 2019 }:37^(PDT)  XʧʇУ
      Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be.

Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had
the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).

695 trillion suns.

Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
Our  hot/dense  sun evaporates into the  cold/sparse  vacuum,
losing 4.3 million tons each second.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.
■
              HerbertGlazier  357219b0-00fb-4e6c-810b-d01ef5acd1dc@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--3.34am.Seattle.2019
          HerbertGlazier  8b4915da-131d-43fc-bed3-dceb7cddf306@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--2.43pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  qemki0$2hc$4@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  462d594c-d415-4b2c-8869-3b7ad3025958@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.23--2.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 3  m49 Top; 2.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 23 {  2:20pm, 2019 }: 2^(PDT)  Xʧɝɺ
      How did Obama abate the tent cities here and abroad ?

Bert:
> I voted for Obama.  My thoughs on Mafia goes with GOPers.

How did Obama abate the tent cities here and abroad ?

Did he give them jobs+pride ?

Every Democrat I know is laser-focused on Trump's wallet,
hoping to get some of it.

We're vastly richer than our ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
still, Democrats feel weak+powerless because they lust after money+power.

For thousands of years, all around the world, holy men have told us
that such desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".
■
              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37785d30d1eb0634216@news.altopia.com
            MsNadegda  qemeuh$hu9$15@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--6.23pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qeokbf$2u3$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.23--1.27pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  19qvgehe3gumb7uoflljirfsmucca7dotr@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.23--2.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 1  m228 Dropped; 8.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jun 23 {  2: 5pm, 2019 }: 5^(-4)  Xʧɚп
      Grand Theft Auto creates rapists ?

Grand Theft Auto ( and porn ) create rapists ?

I doubt it, it takes more than just that.
■
              KWills_Shill_#3│compuelf@gmail_  aisrge994lm8e5tgjrp5hgij8uj91hfnqn@4ax.com
            MsNadegda  qem7ba$hu9$7@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37785d30d1eb0634216@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qemeuh$hu9$15@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--6.23pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qeokbf$2u3$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.23--1.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 9  m198 Mad; 44 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 23 {   :36pm, 2019 }:15  XʧɄF
      Ms Nadegda has nothing to boast about.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > > it's been a slow day here at the c++ factory.
> > 
> > What are you producing ?
> 
> That's proprietary.

Wow, you're none too proud of it, I see.
■
            SamWormley  4d31e2a9-18cd-4068-ae5a-bdfc801b2336@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  6ecc63a0-c267-4c3c-9230-8a9906d4ffa5@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  66f47007-1775-4738-b729-3592b8d0eaa7@googlegroups.com
      SamWormley  b536d595-0f11-493e-9c59-8ff4c6bd6e75@googlegroups.com
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qen1cp$1n73$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.23--0.03am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 4  m119 Mad; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jun 22 { 10: 6pm, 2019 }:16^(-5)  XʦбG
      Uncle Al was an idiot, a river of shit.

Uncle Al was an idiot, a river of shit.

Plenty of people simply don't want much science in their "science fiction";
this makes them "normal", not "idiots" -- you can't force-feed science.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  ZLjPE.104557$Ti5.13543@fx40.iad
            Phil│noemailthatworks@mail_org  1w4wi9q56rdqe.qkdzmb6mjyqy$.dlg@40tude.net
          TheSnitBot  gn6u6aFonmiU1@mid.individual.net
        Phil│noemailthatworks@mail_org  1awjt3ggp50fm.1hrritilj4yhw$.dlg@40tude.net
      TheSnitBot  gn7o4rFu5ttU1@mid.individual.net
    Phil│noemailthatworks@mail_org  1py0j37e7cp7p$.gvuqijt90bh0.dlg@40tude.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m8 Shifty; 1.7 Hours, 40tude, Individual.NET,  Jun 22 {  4: 4pm, 2019 }:37^(-4)  XʦϖУ
      Snit is all about jealousy, deep-green envy, Trump.

Snit is all about jealousy, deep-green envy, Trump;
he doesn't/can't focus on the poor.

He's vastly richer than his ancestors, and most of Africa+Asia;
still, he feels weak+powerless because he lusts after money+power.

For thousands of years, all around the world, holy men have told us
that such desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".
■
              KWills_Shill_#3│compuelf@gmail_  pd8pgehuaqevcme51odtflqigs45tdel3a@4ax.com
            MsNadegda  qejgs9$b1u$86@dont-email.me
          KWills_Shill_#3│compuelf@gmail_  aisrge994lm8e5tgjrp5hgij8uj91hfnqn@4ax.com
        MsNadegda  qem7ba$hu9$7@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37785d30d1eb0634216@news.altopia.com
    .  qemeuh$hu9$15@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--6.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 5  m191 Mad; 56.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 22 {  4:51pm, 2019 }:45  XʦϞϐ
      What is Ms Nadegda producing ?

Ms Nadegda:
> it's been a slow day here at the c++ factory.

What are you producing ?

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  a1hPE.1462$xk5.1194@fx37.iad
            TheSnitBot  gn5o2oFgp81U1@mid.individual.net
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  ZLjPE.104557$Ti5.13543@fx40.iad
        Phil│noemailthatworks@mail_org  1w4wi9q56rdqe.qkdzmb6mjyqy$.dlg@40tude.net
      TheSnitBot  gn6u6aFonmiU1@mid.individual.net
    Phil│noemailthatworks@mail_org  1awjt3ggp50fm.1hrritilj4yhw$.dlg@40tude.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--4.55pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 3  m6 Shifty; 16.9 Minutes, 40tude⁻iso-8859-13, Individual.NET,  Jun 22 {  2:21pm, 2019 }:15^(-4)  XʦξΥ
      Taming "strays" is expensive; and no one wants them.

Phil notes:
> According to the 1938 Encyclopaedia of the Social Sciences, 
> that year 11% of black children were born to unwed mothers. 
> Today about 75% of black children are born to unwed mothers.

Note the "strays" in in the world's poorest regions;
hordes of children with no parents, no homes, no rules, no chance. 
America is heading there.

Taming "strays" is expensive; and no one wants them;
so the trend won't reverse.  Globalization doesn't help.

Human males weren't designed to live past age 19;
anything past that is pure gravy, so rejoice !
■
    MsNadegda  qem4si$hu9$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--3.38pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 4  m178 Mad; 38.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 22 {  2:  pm, 2019 }: 2  Xʦλ2
      Ignore Trump, for a second, and note the "strays" in Africa.

Ms Nadegda:
> Life as a woman in Trump's America

Ignore Trump, for a second, and note the "strays" in Africa;
hordes of children with no parents, no homes, no rules, no chance; 
because that's where America is headed.
■
          SamWormley  e14a34fe-4f12-4de5-8671-cf43a73ff9ce@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  357219b0-00fb-4e6c-810b-d01ef5acd1dc@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--3.34am.Seattle.2019
    HerbertGlazier  8b4915da-131d-43fc-bed3-dceb7cddf306@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--2.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 8  m27 Top; 3.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 22 {  2:27pm, 2019 }:54^(PDT)  XʦοϚ
      According to Bert, Obama was a GOP Mafia man, through and through.

Bert replied ( to me ):
> > Do you believe Democrats (Obama) reduced homelessness ?
> > 
> > Taming "strays" is expensive; and no one wants them.
> 
> When people have no jobs they end up on the street.
> Bush gave tax credits if our factories went to China.
> End of story.

Listening to you, I get the feeling that Democrats don't exist.
According to you, Obama was a GOP Mafia man, through and through.
■
      SamWormley  e14a34fe-4f12-4de5-8671-cf43a73ff9ce@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  357219b0-00fb-4e6c-810b-d01ef5acd1dc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.22--3.34am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m19 Top; 11.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jun 21 {  3:18pm, 2019 }:41^(PDT)  Xʥქf
      Do you believe Democrats (Obama) reduced homelessness ?

Herbert Glazier:
> More people here living on the street.

Do you believe Democrats (Obama) reduced homelessness ?

Taming "strays" is expensive; and no one wants them.
■
              MsNadegda  qejg13$b1u$85@dont-email.me
            Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  42cPE.2$p04.0@fx21.iad
          MsNadegda  qejjhq$b1u$91@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--3.57pm.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  gn56b0Fdav8U1@mid.individual.net
    Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.377734577089970a989bdb@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--7.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 2  m228 Dropped; 53.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 21 {  6:37pm, 2019 }:49^(-6)  XʦGɭ
      Kensi, Ms Nadegda, AOC, the Million Women March, Pol Pot, Hugo Chavez...

Skeeter replied ( to Snit ):
> > > And your (final) solution is to rape+rob the 19%
> > > who are doing well, especially if they're male ?!
> > 
> > Where did you come up with that idea?
> 
> AOC and most libs.

Kensi, Ms Nadegda, AOC, the Million Women March, Pol Pot, Hugo Chavez, 
Kim Jong Un, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Fidel Castro, Che Guevera, Juan Perón... 
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              MrChrisV  16pnge96o1js4uopnbntq8kb6e6rhg4pk1@4ax.com
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qegs2s$p0l$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--2.58am.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qejg13$b1u$85@dont-email.me
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  42cPE.2$p04.0@fx21.iad
    MsNadegda  qejjhq$b1u$91@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--3.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 2  m169 Mad; 57.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 21 {  2:51pm, 2019 }:54  XʥრϚ
      Ms Nadegda's final solution.

Ms Nadegda:
> Fewer than 20% of Americans can be said to be actually *prospering*.

And your (final) solution is to rape+rob the 19%
who are doing well, especially if they're male ?!
■
      Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe@gmail_  2cf8e651-20c5-40ff-966d-15360a1be05e@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  fa983f7c-099b-48a9-9bb5-d873a53bbd71@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 5  m46 Top; 5.6 Days, GoogleG, 98.21.217.188,  Jun 15 { 11:25pm, 2019 }:33^(PDT)  Xʢȶɝ
      695 trillion suns.

Ed Prochak:
> Dark Matter seems to be an effect on a Galactic scale,
> Holding galaxies and clusters together.
> 
> Dark energy seems to be an effect on a cosmic scale,
> driving the universe apart.
> 
> So definitely not equal in magnitude.

The Milky Way was our "Known Universe", 100 years ago.

Our inability to properly/precisely measure dark energy 
doesn't shed much light on reality.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
Our  hot/dense  sun evaporates into the  cold/sparse  vacuum,
losing 4.3 million tons each second.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had
the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).

695 trillion suns.

Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.

Compared to the concordance model ( Lambda-CDM ), the Big Rip
now seems more likely, given recent evidence from "the quasar era"
that shows that the (growing) Hubble "Constant" was then LESS (72.5)
than one at the ( cosmologically older ) "Type Ia supernova era" (73.24),
and MORE than the one at the CMBR (67.66), near the start of the Big Bang.

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M
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        SamWormley  afff8e98-f99a-452f-85f2-2557ed5fc7b9@googlegroups.com
      JimPennino  k4mgtf-5l6.ln1@mail.specsol.com
    EdProchak  a826cfed-4c58-4cfb-b4f5-3212c8969e98@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 8  m46 Top; 5.6 Days, GoogleG, 98.21.217.188,  Jun 15 { 11: 6pm, 2019 }:23^(PDT)  XʢzN
      Not everyone would join Sam Wormley's apocalypse cult.

Ed Prochak replied ( to Jim Pennino ):
> > Oh no, we are all doomed!!
> > Silly bed wetter ass hat.
> 
> Again, no argument, just name calling.
> I expect better from you Jim.

Not everyone wants to join Sam's apocalypse cult,
nor would we allow him to rape & rob us at gunpoint.
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              .  glmo9rFalllU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--6.05am.Seattle.2019
          mimus99│mimus99@gmail_com  j6svpcqrf7kz$.1du6ndeli82vf$.dlg@40tude.net
        Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  11316486.O9o76ZdvQC@PointedEars.de
      mimus99│mimus99@gmail_com  17h9wcdfbzach.1he71pmb1zffy$.dlg@40tude.net
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  4155863.LvFx2qVVIh@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--1.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 2  m15 Dropped; 14.6 Minutes, KNode, Albasani.NET,  Jun 21 {  1: 6pm, 2019 }:11^(2)  XʥяB
      There's a Grand Canyon separating reality from Tom's imagination.

Thomas "I can't find my Dick" Lahn wrote:
> F’up2 poster again; I will killfile you if you ignore it again.
> You have been warned.

There's a Grand Canyon separating reality from Tom's imagination.
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              .  qcvfpg$11jb$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.01am.Seattle.2019
          .  qd24kn$j0r$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.56am.Seattle.2019
      mimus99│mimus99@gmail_com  agyuxecjblhw.1nqezu4s0pnwp.dlg@40tude.net
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-76113A.12125821062019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--0.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m108 Dropped; 2.5 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 21 {   :12pm, 2019 }:59^(-7)  Xʥцx
      The script doesn't contain logic; the sex and violence appear randomly.

TV shows are contractually obligated to have X amount of sex and violence.

The script doesn't contain logic; the sex and violence appear randomly.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF627EB.3637@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glmo9rFalllU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--6.05am.Seattle.2019
        mimus99│mimus99@gmail_com  j6svpcqrf7kz$.1du6ndeli82vf$.dlg@40tude.net
      Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  11316486.O9o76ZdvQC@PointedEars.de
    mimus99│mimus99@gmail_com  17h9wcdfbzach.1he71pmb1zffy$.dlg@40tude.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--0.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 6.3 Minutes, 40tude, Alt.NET,  Jun 21 {   :  pm, 2019 }: 2^(-4)  Xʥф2
      Thomas "clueless" Lahn is beyond autistic.

Thomas "clueless" Lahn is beyond autistic; he's a poorly-programmed robot,
created by some random, half-blind freshman/lady, high on ecstasy.
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              .  5CF55899.EEE@ix.netcom.com
            .  gllmp2F3vjqU1@mid.individual.net
          .  5CF627EB.3637@ix.netcom.com
        .  glmo9rFalllU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--6.05am.Seattle.2019
    mimus99│mimus99@gmail_com  j6svpcqrf7kz$.1du6ndeli82vf$.dlg@40tude.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--11.58am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 49.2 Minutes, 40tude, Alt.NET,  Jun 21 { 11:  am, 2019 }:28^(-4)  XʥкS
      From infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.

A science-hater wrote:
> In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
Our  hot/dense  sun evaporates into the  cold/sparse  vacuum,
losing 4.3 million tons each second.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.
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              TheSnitBot  gmr077F6787U1@mid.individual.net
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  4bthgelv6ep3k89a9m1bbph5jgk7pqoiok@4ax.com
          Ratchet_Jaw│Ratchetjaw@mail_  VP6OE.135422$3T5.572@fx45.iad
        MrChrisV  4svhgel00bfhfprn45uutecrdccuejblno@4ax.com
      Ratchet_Jaw│Ratchetjaw@mail_  Ur7OE.31647$Nt2.15467@fx29.iad
    MsNadegda  qebtfn$b1u$45@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--4.47am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    +-, 2.5 Days, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 18 {  4:52pm, 2019 }:23  XʣჴЕ
      "Capitalism" is men going their own way, without women raping their wallets.

Ms Nadegda asked:
> What is "capitalism"?

"Capitalism" is men going their own way, without women raping their wallets.
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            MsNadegda  qe3ku0$b1u$12@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.376f06b6732dc94936@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qe6312$b1u$17@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37703e2220c2af9b7a@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  qe9545$b1u$28@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--4.37am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Rec.Arts.TV
    +-, 3.5 Days, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 17 {  3:44pm, 2019 }:21  Xʣɫʍ
      The anti-Trump, Million-Women Marchers' plan is to rape "the rich" (males).

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Checkmate ):
> > We have thousands of homeless people camping
> > and shitting on our sidewalks as it is.
> 
> Build public housing. Lots and lots and lots of it.
> jack the top marginal tax rate up.  the sooner it all burns the better.
> Kensi and I can rebuild civilization, and get it *right* this time.

The anti-Trump, Million-Women Marchers' plan is to rape "the rich" (males);
likewise, China forcing itself on Hong Kong is tantamount to rape.

Right or wrong, people think bums are vicious strays,
thieving junkies, screaming at imaginary opponents;
they have no family, no anchor; it's a first-world problem.

Taming these "stray dogs" is expensive; and no one wants them.

In poorer countries, your family is your retirement plan 
( and your children work abroad );
in richer countries, "family" is a retirement disaster, as
men lose their children, their savings, and future income to divorce.

So Taiwan allows gay marriage, and South Korean women average 0.98 births
( the Fertility Rate ); replacement level is:  2.08 .
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  741ngedbp32tv2l1mhqs9a76rnd4io0avn@4ax.com
            MrChrisV  k32ngel3c4hmbf4jbjviud0dr8ghhedgkv@4ax.com
          Beedle│beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22BBE1AC0002A4647000011EE2EF@news.giganews.com
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qegmpe$qku$1@dont-email.me
      MrChrisV  16pnge96o1js4uopnbntq8kb6e6rhg4pk1@4ax.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qegs2s$p0l$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--2.58am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m66 Cool; 12.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 20 {  1:59pm, 2019 }: 9^(-6)  Xʥəу
      Why should the poor own Congress ?

MrChrisV:
> > The wealthy elite businessman owns Congress.

Why should the poor own Congress ?
so they can rape the rich ?
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--1.30am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV
      China forcing itself on Hong Kong is tantamount to rape.

America's lack of "family values" is a first-world problem;
mainland China doesn't have to worry about it.

Hong Kong and Taiwan don't want China for 
the same reason the United States doesn't want Mexico; 
-- different problems, different laws.
China forcing itself on Hong Kong is tantamount to rape.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.21--1.12am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV
      Hong Kong and Taiwan don't want China.

Hong Kong and Taiwan don't want China for 
the same reason the United States doesn't want Mexico; 
-- different problems, different laws.
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              Ratchet_Jaw│Ratchetjaw@mail_  2IeOE.204318$%r7.63963@fx40.iad
            MrChrisV  cqmkged7ir21tinjp8cmmv9cl1ngcmrqjd@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  gmva9sF4hf0U1@mid.individual.net
        ScottDoty  gmvn3pF70t5U2@mid.individual.net
      TheSnitBot  gmvpa8F7nj7U1@mid.individual.net
    ScottDoty  gn02iiF9fhpU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.20--3.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m147 Top; 20.6 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 19 {  5:33pm, 2019 }:23  Xʤϳδ
      Snit is that homeless guy, screaming at imaginary opponents.

Snit is that homeless guy, screaming at imaginary opponents,
forcing you to cross the street.
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              TheSnitBot  gmt6g3Fl2umU1@mid.individual.net
            ScottDoty  gmtf96Flt8hU1@mid.individual.net
          TheSnitBot  gmtjhrFnibpU2@mid.individual.net
        ScottDoty  gmtk8gFlt8hU5@mid.individual.net
      TheSnitBot  gmtlavFnuteU1@mid.individual.net
    ScottDoty  gmtn3rFlt8hU7@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.20--3.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 11  m147 Top; 1.8 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 18 {  8: 5pm, 2019 }:31  XʤUკ
      Snit is paranoid schizophrenic.

Snit is paranoid schizophrenic.
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              TheSnitBot  gmqgcdF32sbU3@mid.individual.net
            MsNadegda  qe94li$b1u$26@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3771e77123da9258d3@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  qebthu$b1u$46@dont-email.me
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  9nuige9u45c9c174jbddan2gtpk1qnk2ef@4ax.com
    ScottDoty  gmtg92Flt8hU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.20--2.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 13  m147 Top; 1.8 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 18 {  6: 8pm, 2019 }:50  XʤBʪ
      Rich China, Poor China.

I don't know about "Paul" but Kensi and Ms Nadegda are definitely female.

The Million Women March, protesting Trump's rollbacks of Women's rights
( to Make America Great Again ) is a "rich girl" problem;
it's very much on Kensi&Nadegda's minds.

There are two Chinas, a rich one and a poor one.
The rich one ( Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea )
doesn't have "family values"; for example, Taiwan allows gay marriage,
and South Korean women average 0.98 births ( the Fertility Rate );
replacement level is:  2.08 .

In Poor China, your family is your retirement plan 
( and your children work abroad );
in Rich China, "family" is a retirement disaster, as
men lose their children, their savings, and future income to divorce.
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        Kensi  qdvk42$f5o$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.376d69686449bbc199770b@news.altopia.com
    ScottDoty  gmi895F872sU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.20--5.16am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 35  m147 Top; 5.7 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 14 { 11:44am, 2019 }:53  Xʡȹʭ
      Bernie Sanders uses guns to ensure that you're extra generous.

UnLike Jesus, 
Bernie Sanders uses guns to ensure that you're extra generous.
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      Keith_Stein│keithstein111  ipuOE.32396$2U7.3060@fx02.am4
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gmvsuuF8fh6U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.20--4.48am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics.Relativity, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m41 Top; 12.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun 19 {  3:57pm, 2019 }:34^(10)  Xʤϕο
      Our inability to know the whole story is real.

Sylvia replied ( to Keith ):
> > Are the probability waves of QUANTUM PHYSICS real ?
> 
> You need to define what you mean by real 
> before that question can be answered.

Our inability to know the whole story is real.

To see quantum particles, you need photons;
problem is, photons ( virtual|real ) disturb quantum particles.

" Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI
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          SamWormley  8a538bf9-9750-4bd3-82d0-624619b5445a@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  30d99475-cf7e-4c87-a0df-d52b56b841c3@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  qdubqb$1461$1@gioia.aioe.org
    MrAA  5d4d250c-215e-46aa-9cb8-d5f87d038883@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--5.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m44 Top; 2.1 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jun 13 {  3:32pm, 2019 }:34^(PDT)  Xʠϐʚ
      Sure, nuclear power plants do explode, but so does popcorn.

MrAA:
> Isn't "Safe Nuke" an oxymoron?

Bomb-Grade uranium is too expensive to use in nuclear reactors.

Any time you fly commercial, you're exposed to a ton of radiation,
far more than you'd get from Fukushima or Chernobyl,
where plants, animals, and the odd human, are positively thriving.

Sure, nuclear power plants do explode, but so does popcorn.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--5.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      The heresy of The "Cherubic" 14 Year Old YouTuber "Soph" (Sophia).

"Cherubic" 14 Year Old YouTuber "Soph" ( Sophia Totterman ) said what I've 
been posting here: "The Climate Apocalypse is a (child's) religion"; see:

    YouTube.COM/watch?v=Z_TopPhLroc

She attends Redwood High School, Larkspur, California.

At first I couldn't download the video because my copy of
"YouTube-DL.EXE" was 37 days old; after an update, it downloaded.

YouTube is on the verge of deleting her (heresy) channel;
as a result, she has almost a million subscribers.
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      SamWormley  8a5c8657-abac-4acf-a27a-ad28d1347b1d@googlegroups.com
    PaulAlsing  5cbc44f7-5341-4321-b749-61d3a6dab305@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--2.24pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m16 Cool; 1.7 Days, GoogleG,  Jun 11 {  8:32pm, 2019 }:59^(PDT)  XʟʛΔ
      TJ Frazir  GravityPhysics

PaulAlsing:
> Herbert Glazier posts almost daily over in alt.astronomy... 
> but wasn't there another Bert ?

TJ Frazir  GravityPhysics @.@ WebTV.NET
Last seen Oct 2012.
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        SamWormley  03ee82cd-e2ec-442c-8c0b-0e0ebeec26c6@googlegroups.com
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qdsa6q$1nl4$1@gioia.aioe.org
    MrAA  f14f600e-b003-4d33-8f57-e593c8698c8b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--2.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m39 Top; 4.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jun 13 {  1:27pm, 2019 }:20^(PDT)  Xʠεα
      The Climate Apocalypse is a (child's) religion.

MrAA replied ( to Sergio & Sam ):
> > > Fox News made the US a hotbed of climate denial.
> > > Kids are the cure.
> > 
> > 
> > Nazi's proved in WW2 that Propaganda to the Youth 
> > was the way to brainwash the future.
> 
> Pol Pot in Cambodia gave us probably the most excellent example of 
> brainwashing all the children and then putting them in charge!  
> See how that one turned out!

The Climate Apocalypse is a (child's) religion.
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            swormley1@gmail_com  f17cdc5b-b109-412f-9396-75e0af0ce939@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  1bf95c2e-ee1a-4e0b-9593-56bd01104367@googlegroups.com
        SamWormley  dc860b18-5aaa-4dd9-b36d-5f95e307a3bd@googlegroups.com
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  qdtr6o$nsi$1@gioia.aioe.org
    MrAA  e7199ed5-0397-4168-b27e-0775503bf4e5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--2.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m39 Top; 14.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jun 13 {  1:17pm, 2019 }:33^(PDT)  Xʠγმ
      Men weren't designed to live past 19 years old.

MrAA replied ( to Sergio ):
> > older people must be terminated before age 60.
> 
> I think the hospice care program is part of this.  
> they won't lift one finger to keep you alive !

Men weren't designed to live past 19 years old; 
in the poorest parts of the world, it's obvious.

Anything beyond that is pure gravy.
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      Kensi  qdsjll$uha$1@gioia.aioe.org
    whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net  qdtab7$dvr$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--1.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m2 Shifty; 9.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 13 {  3:59am, 2019 }:54^(-5)  Xʠɭჰ
      Long-Term, you can safely assume that the S&P 500 will return 7%.

whodat:
> Stocks and futures "markets" give something of an appearance of
> legitimacy but in the end they're nothing more than gambling.

Long-Term, you can safely assume that the S&P 500 will return 7%,
after inflation -- but the inflation numbers don't accurately reflect
the higher cost of rent, restaurants, taxes, insurance, education,
healthcare, daycare, lawsuits, divorce, etc.
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        Kensi  qdn73b$stq$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  698vfetknjc3s8i0feq3tl4067jlft46b8@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  a7bc4ada-39bc-434c-ba06-bb3b0e265522@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--1.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m2 Top; 2.2 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jun 11 {  8:24am, 2019 }:25^(PDT)  XʟYP
      Without an apocalypse, cult leaders lose control.

Without an apocalypse, cult leaders lose control.

Only higher taxes could possibly save us, right ?

Problem is, not everyone wants to play such a silly game.

First, Democrats demonize " Big Oil ", then they milk the poorest,
keeping them alive, like cows in a stall, feeding on food stamps.

"Prohibition" ( when hysterical church ladies take over ) taught us: 
the more "out-there" a government gets, the larger the (bloody) mob.

Moderation is best; just as a fat man doesn't
need more food, a rich country doesn't need a higher GDP;
we've forgotten how to be sustainably, moderately productive.
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              ScottDoty  gm92e5F95u6U2@mid.individual.net
            MsNadegda  qdnk94$qds$111@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3768f832741834de99767a@news.altopia.com
        ScottDoty  gm97r2F95u6U4@mid.individual.net
      Kensi  qdnraf$1kn2$1@gioia.aioe.org
    ScottDoty  gm9a9rF95u6U6@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.12--9.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╳ 6  m121 Top; 1.8 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 11 {  2:24am, 2019 }:11  XʞნB
      "family" is a retirement disaster.

The IRS can take your money, you can get sued,
insurance is expensive, and you can't trust women;
land in the hospital and you'll owe a bazillion dollars.

In poorer areas, your family is your retirement plan;
in wealthier areas, "family" is a retirement disaster, as
men lose their children, their savings, and future income to divorce.

Rich, modern countries, like South Korea, average 0.98 babies
per woman ( the Fertility Rate ); replacement level is:  2.08;
hence the "Make America Great Again" nostalgia.
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    MsNadegda  qdkcmf$qds$94@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.9--8.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV
    -Dropped, 50.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun  9 {  6:44pm, 2019 }:47  XʞHʧ
      I won't play a game designed by a "democracy" ( the hysterical mob ).

MsNadegda:
> The U.S. has been ranked in the top 10 most dangerous countries for women

In poorer areas, your family is your retirement plan;
in wealthier areas, "family" is a retirement disaster, as
men lose their children, their savings, and future income to divorce.

Rich, modern countries, like South Korea, average 0.98 babies
per woman ( the Fertility Rate ); replacement level is:  2.08;
hence the "Make America Great Again" nostalgia.

Bill Gates and Warren Buffett spend 90% of their money 
on the world's poorest kids, not their biological children.

Rich lesbians will get their free daycare/healthcare,
and "white male oppressors" will remain a minority in universities.

When women "go their own way", society applauds;
when men do it, I clap alone.

I won't play a game designed by a "democracy" ( the hysterical mob );
money is silly, health is everything.
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              SteveCarroll  7e33a1f3-48af-4a83-830f-2686298bfd79@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.45am.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  e4f434a8-56d6-45e6-b9e7-164b93be90e8@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--0.24pm.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  glt86mFn9mqU1@mid.individual.net
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  1717897.tdWV9SEqCh@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--11.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Sci.Bio.Misc
    ╱ 1  m7 Dropped; 31.7 Minutes, KNode, Albasani.NET,  Jun  8 { 10:39am, 2019 }:19^(2)  XʝuΩ
      Goolge: oxidative-stress, case-studies.

Tom replied ( to me ):
> > > The more oxygen you breathe in, the sooner you die; it's a fact.
> 
> No, it’s complete nonsense.  But then again, 
> what else to expect from a pseudonymous address munger?

Posting a valid email address to USENET is BEYOND ridiculous;
I post my website instead, because I'm not as insane as you are.
What demons reside in your head, I wonder.

Goolge: oxidative-stress, case-studies.

  Quoting " Oxidative Stress and the Aging Brain ", Dr. Riddle, 2007.
  ncbi.nlm.NIH.GOV/books/NBK3869/

    Currently, one of the most plausible and acceptable 
    explanations for the mechanistic basis of aging is 
    the " free radical theory of aging " ...

    The origin of this explanation has a foundation in 
    the " rate of living theory " [ Pearl ], 
    according to which, the lifespan of an individual depends on
    its rate of energy utilization ( metabolic rate ) ... 

    Pearl proposed that the longevity of an organism 
    is inversely correlated to its mass-specific 
    metabolic rate: increasing an organism’s metabolic 
    rate will decrease longevity, whereas factors that 
    decrease the metabolic rate will increase longevity ... 

    birds have a low rate of free radical production
    in brain and in other tissues [ increasing their longevity ]
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.00am.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  7e33a1f3-48af-4a83-830f-2686298bfd79@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.45am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  e4f434a8-56d6-45e6-b9e7-164b93be90e8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--0.24pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  2c70350b-65c1-4f4b-929d-3d4f64a0c01e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--3.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 5  m391 Mad; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG,  Jun  6 {  1:27pm, 2019 }:55^(PDT)  Xʛგϛ
      Cigarettes didn't kill Kurt Cobain.

I laugh my ass off every time I think about hysterical 
the (mindless) mob gets over _ OLD people dying from smoking; 
_ YOUNG people are getting drunk, shooting up and dying.

Don't worry about us old people, you mainstream "thinker".

> it's a good bet [ marathon runners ] drop dead at 
> a young age a lot less often than smokers get cancer.

I wouldn't take that bet.
Again, you can be super healthy one day, dead the next.
Kurt Cobain comes to mind, cigarettes didn't kill him.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--8.42am.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  ae133472-1794-449c-8097-5c5c2e488e68@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.00am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  7e33a1f3-48af-4a83-830f-2686298bfd79@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.45am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  e4f434a8-56d6-45e6-b9e7-164b93be90e8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--0.24pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m386 Mad; 4.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  6 { 11:55am, 2019 }: 8^(PDT)  XʛуȺ
      The more oxygen you breathe in, the sooner you die; it's a fact.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > you're not the only 6' tall man who can hike 20 miles/day.
> 
> Never said I was but I know there aren't many willing to,
> especially at my age (60).  Too many young people 
> are quite overweight now, it's an epidemic.
> 
> Here, we start around 5k and go up to 14... but I generally hike to 
> places to fish so it's usually 10-11 and not what you'd call flat ;)

Wow, your health is quite impressive, for your age.

The more oxygen you breathe in, the sooner you die; it's a fact.
I've seen super-healthy men, marathon runners, drop dead overnight.

> > I know when someone's hiding something, like Snit does.
> > Pretty women don't shy away from Instagram.
> 
> What'd I hide? I've talked about height/weight in the past <shrug>. 
> I even posted the video that Snit has on his phony YT acct.
> If I was hiding why would I do that?

I asked you for a link to the video, you didn't give it to me.
Is it just your voice ?
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              TheSnitBot  glqjvqF5qumU1@mid.individual.net
            SteveCarroll  e3d494dc-b190-425b-8b72-f630c47dc57b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--8.42am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  ae133472-1794-449c-8097-5c5c2e488e68@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.00am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  7e33a1f3-48af-4a83-830f-2686298bfd79@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.45am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m383 Mad; 15.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  6 { 11:12am, 2019 }:14^(PDT)  XʛмE
      Pretty women don't shy away from Instagram.

Steve Carroll:
> My worst 'sin' is carbs... my 'flaw' is I have rear tooth that's cracked
> and I can't (more like won't) hike 20 miles in a day anymore. 
> So what color corsage should I bring you? ;)

I'm not into men ( I don't "date" anyone ); even if I was,
you're not the only 6' tall man who can hike 20 miles/day.

29 years ago, I did the 33 mile Hoh River Trail; 
one day to go up, another day to go down.

It begins at an altitude of about 600 ft,
and is mostly flat for about 13 miles, 
after which it ascends steeply to Glacier Meadows, altitude 4,300 ft.

My friend and I walked on the glaciers.

> > Like Snit, your response was soaked in guilt.
> 
> Like Snit, you're trying to pretend you know how people 'feel' ;)

I know when someone's hiding something, like Snit does.
Pretty women don't shy away from Instagram.
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              Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A8B66F000440A0700009CA72EF@news.giganews.com
            TheSnitBot  glrdi4FatvmU2@mid.individual.net
          Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A8BC9E0005B383700009CA72EF@news.giganews.com
        Owl  sg8a0b803ga.hu34@rooftop.invalid
      Beedle│beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A966070000A8B5700000E0B2EF@news.giganews.com
    Owl  8ga8ba9b83.3haui@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m46 Top; 1.2 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jun  6 {  9:36am, 2019 }:44  XʛЬi
      My (extra-long) monitor arm.

Owl:
> It's a thousand-dollar monitor *stand*.  
> But oh yeah, I'm sure there are some logo-happy fools who will buy it.  

I wonder if Apple could charge 2'000$ for it ?

Personally, I think it's rather useless;
my (extra-long) monitor arm swings out over my bed,
from the side, holding my 40" curved, 4k monitor.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--4.42pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  03fa1ea6-9004-4e4a-bc90-4ce10018957c@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.26am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  a6a02d64-4873-48ca-86e3-9310ebdba056@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.57am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  5066812a-51bb-4405-8d0b-6ec5bbd3c154@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.08am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  m378 Mad; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG,  Jun  6 {  9:16am, 2019 }: 2^(PDT)  XʛШϰ
      We males were designed to die at age 19.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > I was laying down, head propped up on a pillow/baseboard,
> > still groggy from a long night's sleep,
> > and my microphone picks up every little thing.
> 
> Then why did you sound exactly like this in the previous video you
> made on this topic, a good number of months back? I thought maybe 
> in the first video that something like the above might be the case...
> it obviously isn't. Being stubbornly in denial of reality
> is one of the worst "weaknesses" one can have.  Go ask your mentor ;)

Sure, I do have throat irritation ( at times )
but my voice has always been crappy.
I sound different when I'm out and about, walking around.

We males were designed to die at age 19;
and they still do, in the poorest parts of the world.
Anything above that is pure gravy.
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              SteveCarroll  5106bf97-e386-4420-90c7-9d64176ad564@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  jg4gfedk9nbo4m1n1v7ut7hui66fa9hnoa@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  glqjvqF5qumU1@mid.individual.net
        SteveCarroll  e3d494dc-b190-425b-8b72-f630c47dc57b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--8.42am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  ae133472-1794-449c-8097-5c5c2e488e68@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--11.00am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  m378 Mad; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG,  Jun  6 {  9:  am, 2019 }:36^(PDT)  XʛЦa
      Steve Carroll's response was soaked in guilt.

Steve Carroll:
> my Tele on Snit's bogus YT channel

What video, exactly ?  what is a "Tele" ?

> LOL! Anyone can see that you immediately  (and Snit-ishly)
> tried to shine the spotlight elsewhere, finally ending in the
> ultimate 'Snit proclamation' that I'm 'guilty'. 
> If there's a Snit Jr. in this discussion, you're it ;)

I forthrightly answered all your questions Re: smoking, right ?

Unlike you, I told you my height and weight.
Now I'm thinking that you're ashamed of your height.

I simply pointed out that everyone has "flaws",
and I asked what yours was.

Like Snit, your response was soaked in guilt.
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              SteveCarroll  10d99857-af0a-4d3b-b459-0508c07891e5@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--9.36am.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  5106bf97-e386-4420-90c7-9d64176ad564@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  jg4gfedk9nbo4m1n1v7ut7hui66fa9hnoa@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  glqjvqF5qumU1@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  e3d494dc-b190-425b-8b72-f630c47dc57b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--8.42am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m374 Mad; 51.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  6 {  7:43am, 2019 }:44^(PDT)  XʛЙɨ
      I found Steve Carroll's "guilt".

Everyone has a weakness, and I found Steve Carroll's.

I'm embarrassingly overweight: 245 lbs, 6' tall;
but, unlike Steve, I'm not too embarrassed to admit it.

And that makes Steve like Snit because Snit won't admit 
to anything that might seem even slightly embarrassing.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF6BBAC.36A@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gloq68Fo7mfU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--6.02am.Seattle.2019
        The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF7FB62.1C67@ix.netcom.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.33am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qd94f1$5cm$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--0.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 2  m101 Top; 3.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  5 {   :16pm, 2019 }:51^(-4)  XʛȾб
      Sundials are off by far more than 90 nano-seconds every 79 years.

Sundials are off by far more than 90 nano-seconds every 79 years.
Earth's rotation is slowing down, it wobbles, and its orbit changes.
You (Ben) think otherwise because you're too busy hallucinating.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF6BBAC.36A@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gloq68Fo7mfU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--6.02am.Seattle.2019
        The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF7FB62.1C67@ix.netcom.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.33am.Seattle.2019
    The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF81425.3807@ix.netcom.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--0.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m66 Dropped; 7.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Earthlink.COM, 108.219.229.47,  Jun  5 {   :12pm, 2019 }:37^(-7)  XʛȾb
      Either one, LDS or LSD, are appropriate for Starmaker.

You (Starmaker) wrote:
> If you fly from El Lay to New York...you don't 
> need to set your sundial to New York time.  It's accurate. 
> 
> What's LDS ?

In America, Latter Day Saints are Mormons, 
the only ones gullible enough to breed anymore;
in poorer parts, Muslims do the breeding.

Either one, LDS or LSD, are appropriate for you, 
so you can avoid science and technology.
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              Sirgeo│invalid@invalid_com  qd8qt1$ob3$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Beedle│beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A829B00006B6037000012762EF@news.giganews.com
          Sirgeo│invalid@invalid_com  qd8soo$11r0$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Sirgeo│invalid@invalid_com  qd8t7c$13ul$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Beedle│beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A837A00009FA667000012762EF@news.giganews.com
    Sirgeo│invalid@invalid_com  qd93k4$1i5$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--0.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m5 Shifty; 9.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  5 {   : 2pm, 2019 }:20^(-5)  Xʛȼʌ
      Democracy is a comedy of ( not-so-funny ) errors.

Democracy is a comedy of ( not-so-funny ) errors.

You can kill thieving junkies, as they do in the Philippines, 
where the (corrupt) cops run the drug trade, 

or simply ignore the problem, like they do in Seattle, 
where no one is punished ( no jail time, nor rehab );
either way, the problem persists.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF627EB.3637@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glmo9rFalllU1@mid.individual.net
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF6BBAC.36A@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gloq68Fo7mfU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--6.02am.Seattle.2019
    The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF7FB62.1C67@ix.netcom.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.33am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m68 Dropped; 45 Secs, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Earthlink.COM, 108.219.229.47,  Jun  5 { 10:26am, 2019 }:58^(-7)  XʛsΓ
      Starmaker's LSD.

Starmaker replied ( to me ):
> > 90 billionths of a second, after 79 years.
> > Sundials aren't that accurate.
> 
> A sundial is certaintly more accurate than an atomic clock,

While that may be true in your world, given enough LSD,
it's not true for the rest of humanity.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.26am.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  a6a02d64-4873-48ca-86e3-9310ebdba056@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.57am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  10d99857-af0a-4d3b-b459-0508c07891e5@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--9.36am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  5106bf97-e386-4420-90c7-9d64176ad564@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.26am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m370 Mad; 19.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  5 {  9:58am, 2019 }:47^(PDT)  XʛnЭ
      Human males were designed to die at age 19.

Snit's twin replied ( to me ):
> > Do you over-eat ? What's your height/weight ?
> 
> LOL! Dude, I'm not gonna date ya ;) 

The guilt is strong in this one.

> I just noticed that your voice sounds like you
> may already have a serious issue... and maybe it's
> not too late to do something about it if you care to.

Human males were designed to die at age 19;
and they still do, in the poorest parts of the world.
Anything above that is pure gravy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--4.42pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  03fa1ea6-9004-4e4a-bc90-4ce10018957c@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.26am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  a6a02d64-4873-48ca-86e3-9310ebdba056@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.57am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  10d99857-af0a-4d3b-b459-0508c07891e5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--9.36am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m369 Mad; 18.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  5 {  9: 2am, 2019 }:43^(PDT)  Xʛeʣ
      Do you over-eat ? What's your height/weight?

My throat gets irritated when I relax, smoking doesn't help;
sucking on hard candy stops the cough.
I know non-smokers who got horrible throat cancer.

I sound different when I'm out and about, walking around.
I've always had a crappy voice.

> I don't even drink coffee now, only certain kinds of tea.

No caffeine for me; no tea, no chocolate.

Do you over-eat ? What's your height/weight ?
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--4.42pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  03fa1ea6-9004-4e4a-bc90-4ce10018957c@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.26am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  a6a02d64-4873-48ca-86e3-9310ebdba056@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.57am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m369 Mad; 6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  5 {  8:42am, 2019 }:28^(PDT)  XʛbS
      No street drugs ?

Steve Carroll:
> you sound like you may have throat cancer in the making,
> if not a case of it already..

I was laying down, head propped up on a pillow/baseboard,
still groggy from a long night's sleep,
and my microphone picks up every little thing.

> > Chances are, you're doing something worse.  Pills ?
> 
> Don't drink, don't smoke... don't even take things like aspirin. 

You're the picture of health ? no bad habits ?

No street drugs ?
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--4.42pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  03fa1ea6-9004-4e4a-bc90-4ce10018957c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--8.26am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m369 Mad; 36.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  5 {  7:42am, 2019 }:21^(PDT)  XʛRL
      Free Hong Kong !

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > When your health is gone, you're poor; money is silly.
> > Last 30+ years, I spent nothing on healthcare.
> 
> At the least, you really should quit smoking.

Not bloody likely, compadre.

Chances are, you're doing something worse.  Pills ?

I spent 0$ on pills, last 30+ years.

Free Hong Kong !
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF55899.EEE@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gllmp2F3vjqU1@mid.individual.net
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF627EB.3637@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glmo9rFalllU1@mid.individual.net
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF6BBAC.36A@ix.netcom.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gloq68Fo7mfU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--6.02am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 3  m43 Top; 9.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun  4 {  8:11pm, 2019 }: 1^(10)  XʚНл
      Sundials aren't that accurate.

A twin who spent 79 years living a foot higher 
then his brother, would be 90 nanoseconds older.

90 billionths of a second, after 79 years.

Sundials aren't that accurate.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--4.42pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      " Democracy " ( the mob ) is insane.

I don't know how to judge potential renters;
lawyers can mess you up too, not just pot heads.

Homelessness went down 8% in Seattle because we
were forced to rent to criminals and sex offenders;
I can't even do a credit check, thanks to new laws.

I retired at age 28, 1988, when my ex divorced me.
The government gave her my money, teaching me
a priceless lesson: " Democracy " ( the mob ) is insane.

When your health is gone, you're poor; money is silly.
Last 30+ years, I spent nothing on healthcare.
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      EdProchak  82b8a0dd-cac6-459d-867d-1d817892d6b9@googlegroups.com
    Sergeio│invalid@invalid_com  qd6263$7fa$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--9.14am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1  m130 Mad; 50.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  4 {  8:19am, 2019 }:26^(-5)  Xʚʙɖ
      Measuring Planck’s constant.

Sergeio:
> no mass, no gravity.

According to who, Walt Disney ?

Japan Times, May 25, 2019:

  NEW YORK - Last week the kilogram got a new 
  definition — one that rests on a quantity of light. 

  All electrons, protons, neutrons and photons have 
  perfectly uniform masses and other properties. 
  They don’t age or get dented or scratched. 

  And yes, particles of light — photons — 
  can have a mass under certain circumstances.    
  
  Light is massless when it travels the speed of light, 
  but you can confine photons in a sort of mirrored box, 
  so that they bounce back and forth but 
  have an average speed of zero relative to the box.

  In that case, the photons indeed have predictable mass. 
  The box with the photons will have more mass than the box alone.
  
  The energy of a photon is equal to
  its frequency times the Planck constant.    
  
  Just as scientists had to set the speed of light at a 
  fixed number in order to define the meter without the 
  platinum bar, so on Monday they set Planck’s constant 
  at a fixed value to get rid of the mutable kilogram. 

  There were two different kinds of devices that had 
  been used to precisely measure Planck’s constant,
  and both can be used to measure the kilogram,
  now that Planck’s constant is fixed.    
  
  One device, called the Kibble balance, can measure 
  either the kilogram or Planck’s constant by balancing 
  weight against electromagnetic forces. 

  The other apparatus uses a sphere of precisely measured size
  — so precise that scientists can approximate the number 
  of atoms it contains.    
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF4CB42.2D73@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glkhtvFqog4U1@mid.individual.net
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF55899.EEE@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gllmp2F3vjqU1@mid.individual.net
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF627EB.3637@ix.netcom.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glmo9rFalllU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.4--6.05am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m40 Top; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun  4 {  1:26am, 2019 }:33^(10)  Xʚɔʙ
      The Ten Commandments didn't have fine print.

I think Starmaker's trying to tell us that 
he doesn't like "evil" General Relativity.

Science and Technology are relatively new to humanity; 
many see it as an encroachment on simple, "absolute" truths.
The Ten Commandments didn't have fine print.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  qcvfpg$11jb$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.01am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  qd24kn$j0r$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.56am.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qd4rm4$m6h$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--10.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m59 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  3 {  9:22pm, 2019 }:25^(2)  XʚhЗ
      What part of Game of Thrones made sense to you ?

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > Popular TV shows, including The Twilight Zone and Game of Thrones,
> > are formulaic; i.e. random sex and violence are mandatory.
> > None of them have cause-and-effect, none of them make any sense.
> 
> Just because *you* can't follow the plots in these shows
> doesn't mean there aren't any.  *snicker*

What part of Game of Thrones made sense to you ?
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  qc6cba$18bk$1@gioia.aioe.org
            PengKuan_Em│titang78@gmail_com  bb6cec33-c2b2-4e00-bd35-bfd3d2e76e45@googlegroups.com
          Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gl8vnfFbdeqU1@mid.individual.net
        PengKuan_Em│titang78@gmail_com  bdf22628-f529-43fe-8769-196d1ddbcb27@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--5.52pm.Seattle.2019
    PengKuan_Em│titang78@gmail_com  29cbd1da-a19d-497d-a86f-945a8bf40bf1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--11.58am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m11 Cool; 20.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jun  3 { 11:32am, 2019 }:54^(PDT)  Xʙпʮ
      PengKuan doesn't give a shit about science.

PengKuan:
> The Twins Paradox is just a special relativity phenomenon.

....he said, completely ignoring the insane degree of acceleration
that the traveling astronaut is subjected to.

You (PengKuan) don't give a shit about science.
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.01am.Seattle.2019
            .  qd24kn$j0r$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.56am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  qd38qg$1njf$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--7.37am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qd3oag$n4$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--11.45am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m25 Top; 20 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  3 { 11:18am, 2019 }:56^(-4)  Xʙнu
      Randomness is ignorance; it's everywhere.

Ben replied ( to me ):
> > Science is a new thing in human evolution;
> > people want _ random _ sex+violence, not science.
> 
> Hey Rolf, you seem to have forgotten that in your world there
> is no such thing as "random", be it sex or violence!

Ben, you ignorant slut, randomness is ignorance; it's everywhere.

> Science is newer but very powerful.  Think not? just try to pry away 
> cars, cellphones, and air conditioners from the public who thinks that 
> science doesn't matter only sex and violence does.

Flat-Earthers use GPS maps on their iPhones,
completely oblivious of the orbiting clocks it requires.

> Hey what people "want" is what CNN tells them they want.

MainStream Media will always be insane.
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
            .  qcvfpg$11jb$1@gioia.aioe.org
          .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.01am.Seattle.2019
        .  qd24kn$j0r$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.56am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qd38qg$1njf$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--7.37am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m25 Top; 31.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  3 {  6:54am, 2019 }:23^(-4)  XʙБN
      People want _ random _ sex+violence, not science.

Ben replied ( to me ):
> > Popular TV shows, including The Twilight Zone and Game of Thrones,
> > are formulaic; i.e. random sex and violence are mandatory.
> > None of them have cause-and-effect, none of them make any sense.
> 
> I don't watch game of Thrones, but TZ is so much the opposite of 
> formulaic ( except that it is always based on logical surprises )

I don't watch either show.

Science is a new thing in human evolution; 
people want _ random _ sex+violence, not science.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF39341.511@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glhjbaF78kbU1@mid.individual.net
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF4263C.6EFA@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gljg4rFjplvU1@mid.individual.net
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF4BDD9.130C@ix.netcom.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gljus6FmmvdU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--2.20am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m37 Top; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun  3 {   :  am, 2019 }:22^(10)  XʙΟM
      If you're a super-high-tech Einstein...

Sylvia replied ( to Starmaker ):
> > It's *more* 'complicated' using tuning fork vibrations
> > to measure time than a shadow.
> 
> You'd prefer a definition of the second that's next to useless,
> only because it's what the sundial shows ?
> 
> I remain unclear as to the point of this thread.

For most people, it's more useful, and obviously easier,
to measure time in terms of how many emperors have passed away.

If you're a super-high-tech Einstein, you might need to know
how orbiting clocks synchronize with surface clocks;
but such people are very few and far between.

Many people insist that the earth is flat; to them, I say:  
  Have at it, you don't need to "know" any more than that.
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              SamWormley  407abb0c-8fd2-4dc2-9609-47ac0d9b65d6@googlegroups.com
            BenJacoby  qcv462$1hua$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  qcvfpg$11jb$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.01am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qd24kn$j0r$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.56am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m104 Top; 5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  2 {  8:36pm, 2019 }:52^(-4)  Xʙʜq
      Random sex and violence are mandatory.

Ben replied ( to me ):
> > The Twilight Zone's "research" isn't scientific.
> 
> You can start by providing us with ALL "twilight zone research"
> so we can judge if none if it is scientific. 
> 
> Ben, you ignorant slut, you don't even have a clue
> what being "scientific" means.

....Ben said, looking in the mirror.

Popular TV shows, including The Twilight Zone and Game of Thrones,
are formulaic; i.e. random sex and violence are mandatory.
None of them have cause-and-effect, none of them make any sense.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF34840.52F@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glh01fF3c2uU1@mid.individual.net
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF3650E.27D2@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glhdg0F61buU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.17am.Seattle.2019
    Tom_Roberts│tjroberts137  fK2dnTKvI4kbZ27BnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--0.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 41.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Giganews.COM,  Jun  2 {  9:34am, 2019 }:13^(-5)  Xʙjϻ
      Bose-Einstein Condensates are the most accurate timepieces.

Tom Roberts replied ( to me ):
> > only lasers measure time ( and distance ) accurately.
> 
> Nope.  Indeed I know of no clock that is based upon a laser

Don't be so pedantic, I meant:  Bose-Einstein Condensates, 
including "atom lasers" ( coherent atoms ), lasers, and masers.

Quoting Wikipedia:

  Early atomic clocks were based on masers at room temperature. 

  Since 2004, more accurate atomic clocks 
  first cool the atoms to near absolute zero 
  temperature by slowing them with lasers and probing 
  them in atomic fountains in a microwave-filled cavity.  

> > Today, even the kilogram is measured in terms of lasers,
> > Planck's constant ( h, e = h*frequency ), and "e/c^2 = m".
> 
> Not really. The kilogram was recently redefined in terms of various 
> constants of nature (including c and Planck's). 
> But lasers are neither part of the definition nor essential.

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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF1E459.3931@ix.netcom.com
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gle6v4Ffl6qU1@mid.individual.net
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF34840.52F@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glh01fF3c2uU1@mid.individual.net
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CF3650E.27D2@ix.netcom.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glhdg0F61buU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.17am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 2  m35 Top; 4.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun  2 {   :51am, 2019 }:28^(10)  Xʘьι
      Only lasers measure time ( and distance ).

Sylvia:
> sundials don't measure time, they measure the position of the sun.

Correct, only lasers measure time ( and distance ).

Today, even the kilogram is measured in terms of lasers, 
Planck's constant ( h, e = h*frequency ), and "e/c^2 = m".
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          SamWormley  407abb0c-8fd2-4dc2-9609-47ac0d9b65d6@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  qcv462$1hua$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qcvfpg$11jb$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.01am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m110 Top; 9.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  1 {  8:28pm, 2019 }:48^(-4)  XʘРЮ
      The Twilight Zone's "research" isn't scientific.

Ben replied ( to me ):
> > BenJacoby: "professional protographer", "professional musician",
> > and chief "scientist" for The Twilight Zone's oddest episodes.
> 
> I was "principal research scientist" for one of the 
> larger research organizations in the world.

The Twilight Zone's "research" isn't scientific.
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              .  qc6cba$18bk$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  bb6cec33-c2b2-4e00-bd35-bfd3d2e76e45@googlegroups.com
          .  gl8vnfFbdeqU1@mid.individual.net
        .  bdf22628-f529-43fe-8769-196d1ddbcb27@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--5.52pm.Seattle.2019
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  glgnv4F1qptU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--5.25am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV
    ╱ 1  m3 Top; 9.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Jun  1 {  6:44pm, 2019 }: 1^(10)  XʘϿɹ
      "The Twins Paradox" is about The Astronaut.

Fermilab’s Dr. Don Lincoln has the same objection ( here )
as you, Sylvia, see:    YouTube.COM/watch?v=noaGNuQCW8A

However, I prefer my explanation because, after all,
"The Twins Paradox" is about  The Astronaut ...
not cosmic rays, coming and going.

General Relativity tells us that The MicroAccelerated Twin's clock
ticks faster, and he ages faster, than The HyperAccelerated Twin,
assuming he survived it ( he didn't ).

P.S. Congratulations on being more "autistic" than me;
you have impressed me greatly, no joke.
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      SamWormley  407abb0c-8fd2-4dc2-9609-47ac0d9b65d6@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qcv462$1hua$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m108 Top; 3.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Jun  1 {  5:10pm, 2019 }:43^(-4)  XʘϡЩ
      Chief "scientist" for The Twilight Zone.

BenJacoby: "professional protographer", "professional musician",
and chief "scientist" for The Twilight Zone's oddest episodes.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
            Owl  9ba0b803.gau34@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.59am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sxbuobab.3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--7.11am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  g8zb89tgalh3.h@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--8.39am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m4 Top; 48.9 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jun  1 {  7:36am, 2019 }:57  Xʘʒv
      I said, "no top level windows".

Owl replied ( to me ):
> > > > I like my SearchBar  BELOW  the address bar, 
> > > > not  IN  the address bar, not in a top-level window... OK ?
> > > >     Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
> > > 
> > > I could emulate that by linking windows.
> > 
> > OK, let's see it, large text and all.
> 
> streamable.com/m6l3m

I said, "no top level windows"; you're showing 
2 top level windows, obstructing the browser.  
Also, I go months without ever seeing my desktop.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  9ba0b803.gau34@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.59am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  sxbuobab.3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--7.11am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m49 Top; 6.1 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jun  1 {  6:59am, 2019 }:57  Xʘʋჳ
      Let's see it, large text and all.

Owl replied ( to me ):
> > I like my SearchBar  BELOW  the address bar, 
> > not  IN  the address bar, not in a top-level window... OK ?
> >     Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
> 
> I could emulate that by linking windows.

OK, let's see it, large text and all.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
            Owl  9ba0b803.gau34@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.59am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  aeedac7e-7007-4040-99aa-57d36e3530c8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--6.24am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  bxb803ga.3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--7.02am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 2  m48 Top; 4.9 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jun  1 {  6:47am, 2019 }: 5  Xʘʉп
      I modify open source.

Owl:
> I can set the font in my tcl search app to be whatever I want it to be.

Again, I like my SearchBar  BELOW  the address bar, 
not  IN  the address bar, not in a top-level window... OK ?
    Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG

I modify the way Firefox looks; and the way webpages look;
and I do it while watching videos, multitasking.

I modify open source.
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            TheSnitBot  gle74kFflhpU1@mid.individual.net
          Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com  bl44fedbf3kjt1s91vtpjv1hprc6pvqsh9@4ax.com
        TheSnitBot  glej09Fi108U1@mid.individual.net
      Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  t3uIE.19903$4O5.6428@fx46.iad
    ScottDoty  glfchhFn3a4U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--6.42am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m91 Top; 4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun  1 {  6:22am, 2019 }:58  Xʘʅи
      Michael Glasser's sense of guilt runs deeper than we can imagine.

Michael Glasser's sense of guilt runs deeper than we can imagine.

Flooding newsgroups, as he does, is designed to block Google,
so no one can discover that "the Emperor" (Mike) is wearing no clothes.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  9ba0b803.gau34@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.59am.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  7UuIE.2344879$%SF.661064@fx15.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--6.32am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m38 Top; 11.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Jun  1 {  6:15am, 2019 }:47  Xʘʄϒ
      Does anyone here believe in open source ?

Branimir replied ( to me ):
> > Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
> > I modify Firefox 67, I write extensions.
> 
> Modify in what sense ?

See the screenshot, 
it's not the default Firefox 67 that you might be used to.

My address bar and search bar have larger text,
compared to the default... something neither Steve nor Owl can do.

I control the look of my modified version of 
the (Open Source) "Classical Search Bar" extension.

Does anyone here believe in open source ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  9ba0b803.gau34@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.59am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  aeedac7e-7007-4040-99aa-57d36e3530c8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--6.24am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m366 Mad; 4 Secs, GoogleG,  Jun  1 {  6:14am, 2019 }:35^(PDT)  Xʘʄʛ
      The (Open Source) "Classical Search Bar" extension.

I control the look of my modified version of 
the (Open Source) "Classical Search Bar" extension.

If it gave me "eye strain", as you (Steve) say, I'd change it.

My address bar and search bar have larger text,
compared to the default... something neither you nor Owl can do.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
        .  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
    Owl  9ba0b803.gau34@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.59am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m1 Top; 3.7 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jun  1 {  5: 6am, 2019 }: 6  Xʘɹ6
      I modify Firefox 67, I write extensions.

Owl replied ( to me ):
> >     Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
> > Note how sophisticated my search methods are;
> > GoogleChrome isn't even playing in the same league.
> 
> This works "fine" with chrome and firefox: imgur.com/bXrDmVk
> And of course it could be customized however you want it.

No, I like my SearchBar  BELOW  the address bar, 
not  IN  the address bar, not in a top-level window... OK ?
I modify Firefox 67, I write extensions.
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              SteveCarroll  e3372b95-abf8-487c-8006-019fd54f6049@googlegroups.com
            TheSnitBot  gldu7sFdor8U11@mid.individual.net
          SteveCarroll  6a41c91a-c151-42c8-a53b-0601e5782c8b@googlegroups.com
        TheSnitBot  gldvr7Fe762U4@mid.individual.net
      TheSnitBot  gle02kFe762U5@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  9a67f3ec-3c44-4150-8cc9-b3090de350ea@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--6.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 7.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 31 {  5:58pm, 2019 }:38^(PDT)  Xʘ9Ф
      Mike is having a "galloping insanity" snit.

No one should be surprised that 
Mike is having a "galloping insanity" snit; 
it's right there, in his "From:" line.

A dimwitted child can see that his definition
of "equal rights" is anything but.

Communism is inherently nationalist, racist.
All across America, colleges mostly contain 
Asians and women, not white male "oppressors".
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              Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gkl37uF1obbU1@mid.individual.net
            PengKuan_Em│titang78@gmail_com  ec298569-e765-4b09-b6fc-20468beef38d@googlegroups.com
          Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  qc6cba$18bk$1@gioia.aioe.org
        PengKuan_Em│titang78@gmail_com  bb6cec33-c2b2-4e00-bd35-bfd3d2e76e45@googlegroups.com
      Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gl8vnfFbdeqU1@mid.individual.net
    PengKuan_Em│titang78@gmail_com  bdf22628-f529-43fe-8769-196d1ddbcb27@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--5.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m9 Cool; 32.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 31 {  4:23pm, 2019 }:22^(PDT)  Xʗჯა
      The MicroAccelerated Twin's clock ticks faster.

PengKuan:
> the traveling twin sees Earth's time running slower, 

No, Earth's clocks tick faster.

The Traveling Twin reverses direction, from c to -c;
The Stay-At-Home Twin's acceleration is relatively minor.

So, really, we should be calling them "The HyperAccelerated Twin"
and "The MicroAccelerated Twin"; also, we should note that 
Special Relativity isn't about accelerated frames of reference.

General Relativity tells us that The MicroAccelerated Twin's clock
ticks faster, and he ages faster, than The HyperAccelerated Twin,
(absurdly) assuming he survived it.
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          SamWormley  6dcf45cc-9d72-4d7d-8558-6a600ebd6c43@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  qcompv$1531$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--5.22am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qcrbdp$vt2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--7.07am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m133 Top; 11.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May 31 {  6:49am, 2019 }:46^(-4)  XʗАɪ
      Walt Disney is not a science Institute.

Ben Jacoby was the "Principal Research Scientist" in charge of
animating Dumbo The Elephant's flight, I'm sure.

Walt Disney is not a science Institute.
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    HerbertGlazier  0d0ecd15-501a-4699-94c3-cd34ab204047@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--5.44am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m48 Top; 14.9 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  May 30 {  2: 6pm, 2019 }: 8^(PDT)  Xʗɛ8
      Communism is inherently nationalist, racist.

Herbert Glazier:
> Ben Bradlee [ Washington Post editor, from 1968 to 1991 ]
> stated America is not free anymore. 

No one was ever free.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.

> I lived when America was free.
> I will die at 92 knowing it died before me.

Then you've done something wrong,
because my life just keeps getting better.

Left-Wing Regressives taxe+regulate producers and enable thieving junkies;
producing fewer of the former, and more of the latter.

> GOPers call me a commie.

You're part of the mob that uses guns to take money from me.

" 'The majority of the stupid' [democracy] is invincible,
  and guaranteed for all time.

  The terror of their tyranny, however,
  is alleviated by their lack of consistency. "
  -- Einstein, in "Ideas and Opinions", 1954, New York.

Many leaders, including Trump, are playing by China's rulebook now:
ban imports, ban Google and Facebook, subsidize Huawei.

Communism is inherently nationalist, racist.
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      SamWormley  6dcf45cc-9d72-4d7d-8558-6a600ebd6c43@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qcompv$1531$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.31--5.22am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m132 Top; 22.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May 30 {  6:45am, 2019 }:39^(-4)  XʗHτ
      Ben, you ignorant slut.

Ben, you ignorant slut, Einstein's equations tell us how clocks very,
depending on their relative speed and altitude -- measured in NanoSeconds.
Galieo's only clock was his heartbeat.  Do you see the difference ?

Have you learned any thermodynamics lately ?
last I checked, you knew  absolutely  nothing  about it.

If you were just 500 years behind today's science, I'd be amazed.

You could write for Hollywood, and make much coin,
but I wouldn't trust you to mop the floor of a science building.

" The majority of the stupid [democracy] is invincible,
  and guaranteed for all time.

  The terror of their tyranny, however,
  is alleviated by their lack of consistency. "
  -- Einstein, in "Ideas and Opinions", 1954, New York.
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            Kensi  qcnlha$c94$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.229F98410011DB0770000EBE22EF@news.giganews.com
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qcoq53$g9s$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--1.19pm.Seattle.2019
    HerbertGlazier  7910296f-0232-42b1-92ff-579810278af7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--4.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m51 Top; 2.8 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  May 30 {  1:38pm, 2019 }:25^(PDT)  Xʗɖʑ
      The Royal Windsor house eats Ramen, just like everyone else.

Herbert Glazier wrote:
> The Royal Windsor house is worth over a trillion

Yet they eat Ramen, just like everyone else.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  99720fac-d348-43cf-a679-81008ec312b0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--1.35pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  85a419b8-e2f3-4b7c-80ee-146178453018@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--4.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 11  m352 Mad; 27.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 30 {  1:44pm, 2019 }:50^(PDT)  Xʗɗʪ
      Here's a new screencast for you, Steve Carroll.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > > > Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
> > > > Note how sophisticated my search methods are;
> > > > GoogleChrome isn't even playing in the same league.
> 
> I remember you talking about it awhile back... and IIRC
> you even made a screencast but I can't find it now.

Here's a new screencast for you, it's rather crappy;
YouTube offers a very fuzzy 720p version of the 4K original.
The microphone was my Logitech g635 headset.

  Firefox 67, developers' edition, has many search methods, customizable:
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=CxT2Nh8kx3M
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              Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.229F657A0005F49270000EBE22EF@news.giganews.com
            Bobby_Zeppole│idontlikeemail  gla2klFibraU1@mid.individual.net
          Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A019E60002965D7000041D12EF@news.giganews.com
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qcopvn$g9s$1@dont-email.me
      Beedle│beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A03DE00004612D7000057732EF@news.giganews.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qcp5l5$nsd$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--2.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m181 Mad; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 30 { 10:59am, 2019 }: 2^(-6)  Xʗxм
      Communism taxes-and-regulates producers and enables thieving junkies;

Snit asked:
> > What makes you think communists are freeloaders ?

Because they taxe+regulate producers and enable thieving junkies;
producing fewer of the former, and more of the latter.

> > Trump got $1 million from his father.

Give that to Snit, and it'd be gone in a day;
he'd file bankruptcy and stiff everyone;
and, unlike Trump, he'd never recover from it.
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            Kensi  qcnlha$c94$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.229F98410011DB0770000EBE22EF@news.giganews.com
        Sergeio│invalid@invalid_com  qcos49$1trp$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Beedle│beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A02BFD00002FC57000057732EF@news.giganews.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qcp067$lhf$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--1.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m181 Mad; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 30 {  9:25am, 2019 }:45^(-6)  Xʗiɩ
      "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave.

Snit wrote:
> > Capitalism is raping the earth

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
"God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave 
( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  99720fac-d348-43cf-a679-81008ec312b0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--1.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 14  m352 Mad; 8.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 30 {  1:11pm, 2019 }:27^(PDT)  Xʗɑვ
      My search methods.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
> > Note how sophisticated my search methods are;
> > GoogleChrome isn't even playing in the same league.
> 
> Explain.

Do you understand what's going on in the screenshot ?

I click a mouse button and all my search methods show up
like that, on the top left; so I can click on one of them,
and hit "Enter" ( to run the search ). 
"Enter" is assigned to a mouse button; see:
Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG

UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term={searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?q=define:{searchTerms}
Dictionary.COM/browse/{searchTerms}
YouTube.COM/results?search_query={searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?tbm=isch&q={searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms} site:WikiPedia.ORG
News.Google.COM/news/search/section/q/{searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms}&tbs=qdr:d7
Rarbg.TO/torrents.php?search={searchTerms}
Maps.Google.COM/maps?q= {searchTerms}
Amazon.com/s?k={searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms} site:microsoft.com
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms} site:developer.mozilla.org
Groups.Google.COM/forum/#!search/messageid:{searchTerms}
WhatIsMyIPAddress.com/ip/{searchTerms}
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms} site:WikiQuote.ORG
Google.COM/search?q={searchTerms} site:Wiktionary.ORG
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        Kensi  qcnlha$c94$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.229F98410011DB0770000EBE22EF@news.giganews.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qcoq53$g9s$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--1.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m182 Mad; 4.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 30 {  7:42am, 2019 }:45^(-6)  XʗRj
      "democracy" ( mob rule ) is a force of nature.

AnonLinuxUser wrote:
> democracy was hated by Socrates.

"Democracy" ( mob rule ) is a force of nature;
it might run you over, or it might help you, 
but it sure-as-hell doesn't care about you.
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              SteveCarroll  2f97442f-b7e6-47c8-8ae2-77e6f2706f2f@googlegroups.com
            Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  qWFHE.20938$k34.18646@fx25.iad
          Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.229F657A0005F49270000EBE22EF@news.giganews.com
        Bobby_Zeppole│idontlikeemail  gla2klFibraU1@mid.individual.net
      Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.22A019E60002965D7000041D12EF@news.giganews.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qcopvn$g9s$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--1.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m182 Mad; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 30 {  7:39am, 2019 }:52^(-6)  XʗQϘ
      Snit's "equal rights" are anything but.

Both Nazi Germany and Soviet Venezuela chased out their best and brightest.

No evidence suggests that Trump might be a (gay) Freemason;
look at their history -- they were "bathing" each other in secret.

Snit:
> > Fox News is America's CCCP-era Pravda. 

Snit would silence Fox, I'm sure.
His "equal rights" are anything but.

Look at the list of billionaires; 
nearly all of the women got their money from men.
80% of the time, men get the child support, and women get the child.

All across America, colleges mostly contain Asians and women,
not white male "oppressors".

Unless you're prepared to step down from your position of prominence,
none of this "racist/sexist" stuff can be mentioned 
-- it's left-wing regression, oppression, anti-male, anti-white.

> > You believe capitalism is good. But your banks are bailed out with
> > $1 trillion US dollars at the tax payer expense.

The government's Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac
are the only ones who wanted the money,
the only ones who needed the money, 
and the only ones who are still underwater.

> > Your government doesn’t like that Huawei beat you to the 5G rollout.

Many leaders, including Trump, are playing by China's rulebook now:
ban imports, ban Google and Facebook, subsidize Huawei.

  Intrinsically, Communism is nationalist, racist.
  Vietnam is a victory for Eastern racism while
  Germany is a victory for Western globalization.
  Singapore is racist globalization.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  6ebe070d-a3c1-4770-8a18-4791f3c9c5e4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.30--0.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 12  m350 Mad; 2 Hours, GoogleG,  May 30 { 10:24am, 2019 }:16^(PDT)  XʗsG
      GoogleChrome isn't even playing in the same league.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > GoogleChrome users can't do this (below).
> > How YouTube looks to me ( on FireFox 67, Developer Edition, Win10 ):
> > 
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComments.PNG   Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeNotices.PNG    Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSubs.PNG
> > 
> > "Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG" shows how my AddressBar/SearchBar text
> > (UpperLeft) stands out, larger than elsewhere;
> > the DropDown, UpperLeft, lists the "Search Methods" I use.
> > 
> > Skinned via:   Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT   Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT
> 
> Why can't these things be done in Chrome (it's all just HTML, JS and CSS)?

Double the size of your address bar and your (nonexistent) search bar
( which contains a history of your searches, not URLs ), 
and then give me a screenshot.

Also, note how sophisticated my search methods are;
GoogleChrome isn't even playing in the same league.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
      GoogleChrome users can't do this.

GoogleChrome users can't do this (below).
How YouTube looks to me ( on FireFox 67, Developer Edition, Win10 ):

  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComments.PNG   Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeNotices.PNG    Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSubs.PNG

"Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG" shows how my AddressBar/SearchBar text
(UpperLeft) stands out, larger than elsewhere;
the DropDown, UpperLeft, lists the "Search Methods" I use.

Skinned via:   Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT
  Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT   Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT
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jeff-relf.me@May.29--5.32am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Intrinsically, Communism is nationalist, racist.

Intrinsically, Communism is nationalist, racist.

Vietnam is a victory for Eastern racism while
Germany is a victory for Western globalization.
Singapore is racist globalization.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--10.38am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Nazi Germany and Soviet Venezuela

Technology and globalization are displacing people;
it's 1930 all over again, complete with Hoovervilles.
" Democracy " ( the mob ) commits suicide when it
chases out its best and brightest, out of jealousy, 
as happened in Nazi Germany and Soviet Venezuela.
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  qbpl4k$1h2d$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JohnSefton  7650e0c4-1e56-4711-98bc-d5274968989d@googlegroups.com
          Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  qbq4dr$1mmi$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JohnSefton  2d11d54a-3fe1-4d34-bdd1-d19401d4b4d5@googlegroups.com
      MichaelMoroney  qbqcgu$d9b$1@pcls7.std.com
    BenJacoby  qbr4je$1te6$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--8.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m174 Top; 17.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May 19 {  1:37am, 2019 }: 2^(-4)  Xʏηȴ
      Neither Ben Jacoby nor Michael Moroney believe in thermodynamics.

Neither Ben Jacoby nor Michael Moroney believe in thermodynamics;
still, it's true, gravity is residual exergy.
Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse.
                                   
General Relativity is just a computer program;
garbage in, garbage out.
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      SamWormley  41928dd6-e65e-4a7c-a0b9-5bc811d618da@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  75e025db-86be-4cd7-be73-2265dda10938@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.19--7.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m47 Top; 4.5 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  May 19 {  3: 4pm, 2019 }:17^(PDT)  XʏტϿ
      Pee'Air makes the world go 'round.

Neil deGrasse Tyson told little Miss Ashley Watson:

    I want to hug you so bad right now, but
    I know that if I do I’ll just want more.

Pee'Air makes the world go 'round.
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              .  qbmraa$vfv$2@dont-email.me
            .  0001HW.228F2D4104943E4370000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
          .  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--0.15pm.Seattle.2019
        .  0001HW.228F5915049E842370000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--7.14pm.Seattle.2019
    Sergeio│invalid@invalid_com  qbnuu4$1vt3$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--9.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m4 Shifty; 23.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  May 17 {  8:41pm, 2019 }:49^(-5)  XʎТძ
      LeftWingRegressives have neutered CorrectionalTreatmentSpecialists ?

Sergeio replied ( to me ):
> > LeftWingRegressives have neutered CorrectionalTreatmentSpecialists ?
> 
> so, are you channeling this stuff ?

No, I have no idea what you're talking about.

> hey, you are posting to alt.privacy.anon-server,
> do you remember Frog-Admin ?  from lots of years back ?

No, but I think a "froggery" is a post using 
a name very similar someone else.
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        FabianRussell  qbngv50hh@news3.newsguy.com
      Tattoo_Vampire│sitting@this_  qbnjar$uif$1@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org
    Russian_Election_Hacker│  qbnk54$3k1$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m3 Shifty; 1.3 Hours, UnisonMacBin, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 17 {  5:37pm, 2019 }:56^(-4)  Xʎϴɴ
      RussianHacker is well-dressed, popular with the ladies.

Guessing, I'd say:
 
  RussianHacker is well-dressed, popular with the ladies.
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbl61i$8dj$2@dont-email.me
            Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228E57020462079970000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
          AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbmraa$vfv$2@dont-email.me
        Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228F2D4104943E4370000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--0.15pm.Seattle.2019
    Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228F5915049E842370000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--7.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m10 Shifty; 4.9 Hours, Hogwasher, Giganews.COM,  May 17 {  2: 3pm, 2019 }:17^(-7)  XʎλΧ
      LeftWingRegressives have neutered CorrectionalTreatmentSpecialists ?

LeftWingRegressives have neutered CorrectionalTreatmentSpecialists ?

  In a rich city, where everything is at your fingertips,
  one forgets how to work hard ( and be sober ),
  because it simply isn't necessary.

  Prohibition, when hysterical church ladies take over, taught us: 
  the more "out-there" a government gets, the larger the (bloody) mob.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--4.14pm.Seattle.2019
            Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228E3B7E045B948570000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
          AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbl61i$8dj$2@dont-email.me
        Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228E57020462079970000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
      AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbmraa$vfv$2@dont-email.me
    Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228F2D4104943E4370000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--0.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m9 Shifty; 1.2 Hours, Hogwasher, Giganews.COM,  May 17 { 10:56am, 2019 }:17^(-7)  XʎΔʉ
      What changes ?

Savageduck:
> Given what I was doing with prisons, and gangs it was interesting, and turned 
> out to have been a great job.  However, there have been quite a few changes in 
> the system, and I am thankful to be retired, and away from all the politics 
> oozing from Sacramento making things tougher for those working there today.

What changes ?
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--4.31am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
      The citizen’s arrest ( at gunpoint ).

The citizen’s arrest ( at gunpoint ).
Quoting The Washington Post, May 7, 2019:

  The United Constitutional Patriots, 
  an armed militia at the southern border in New Mexico,
  has drawn intense scrutiny after live-streaming
  its activities on social media. 

  Groups like the UCP routinely litter the border with traps
  to discourage — and detain at gunpoint —  migrants 
  from coming to U.S. territory. 

  They patrol the Mojave in the dead of night, 
  and coordinate with Customs and Border Patrol agents,
  to transfer people into government hands.    

  The group argues that it is acting lawfully, 
  in the tradition of other vigilante groups 
  operating along the U.S.-Mexico border. 

  For all the noise they make, these groups have come to use
  one practice that, at first blush, is quite meek, and 
  almost arcane in today’s world:  the citizen’s arrest.
 
  But thanks to critical aspects of U.S. law, this 
  practice is rife for abuse and gives these groups far 
  more leeway to act than one might think.  
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbhcc7$m9h$3@dont-email.me
            T│T@invalid_invalid  qbiaf9$rjk$3@dont-email.me
          AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbikob$fni$1@dont-email.me
        Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228D10B304158CDD70000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
      AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbk2cu$rdl$1@dont-email.me
    Savageduck│savageduck1@  0001HW.228DF55F044B255B70000253E2CF@news.giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--4.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 3  m5 Shifty; 3 Hours, Hogwasher, Giganews.COM,  May 16 {   :45pm, 2019 }:35^(-7)  Xʍыπ
      SavageDuck works for the government.

SavageDuck:
> I don't just believe I'm OK, I know.

You work for the government, I assume.
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              Kensi  qbimht$ccj$2@gioia.aioe.org
            Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3746b54fb4296e679971f3@news.altopia.com
          Kensi  qbj5fl$dur$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--4.03am.Seattle.2019
      MsNadegda  qbkevb$clj$46@dont-email.me
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37476a53a2a8c58299723b@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--3.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m149 Dropped; 1.6 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET,  May 16 {  1:39pm, 2019 }:21^(-7)  Xʍეβ
      How is Feminism not: WOMEN Going Their Own Way (WGTOW) ?

Checkmate called out Ms Nadegda and Kensi:
> > > MGTOW are misogynists.
> > > 
> > > Feminism is WOMEN Going Their Own Way (WGTOW).
> > 
> > More proof that Relf does not live on planet Earth.
> 
> Riding a Sybian or enjoying a freshly peeled cucumber 
> is a pretty good indication of women going their own way...

How is Feminism not: WOMEN Going Their Own Way (WGTOW) ?

Is this true ?:

  Do Feminists work hard for equal rights between men and women ? No.
  Do they want MEN to gain custody of their children more often ? No.
  Do they worry about MEN being underrepresented in colleges ? No.
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          Dimensional_Traveler│dtravel  qbhtdt$d1f$4@dont-email.me
        Kensi  qbimht$ccj$2@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3746b54fb4296e679971f3@news.altopia.com
    Kensi  qbj5fl$dur$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.16--4.03am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.TV, Alt.Checkmate
    +Top, 2.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 16 {  1: 2am, 2019 }:49^(2)  Xʍαʩ
      Feminism is WOMEN Going Their Own Way (WGTOW).

Kensi imagined:
> > > Planet MGTOW ( was Re: The Orville  s02e12 )
> > 
> > Why does MGTOW bother you so much?
> 
> Because they're misogynists.

Feminism is WOMEN Going Their Own Way (WGTOW).

In the poorest, most remote parts of Africa,
where one's life expectancy is quite short,
the luckier ones have 4 wives and 30 kids.
    
In contrast, the luckier ones a in a rich, modern city
( Seoul, Taipei, Singapore, Shanghai and Hong Kong )
don't get married, nor have kids ( 0.98 births / woman );
-- because it's maximal work with minimal reward.
    
In a rich city, where everything is at your fingertips,
one forgets how to work hard ( and be sober ),
because it simply isn't necessary.
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    Kensi  qbim75$ccj$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.15--11.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m76 Top; 1.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 15 {  8:42pm, 2019 }:16^(2)  XʍʝG
      When hysterical church ladies take over.

Kensi wrote something like:
> fossil fuels have put us in grave danger.
> Big Oil ! LOCK 'EM UP!!

First, Democrats demonize " Big Oil ", then they milk the poorest,
keeping them alive, like cows in a stall, feeding on food stamps.

Prohibition, when hysterical church ladies take over, taught us: 
the more "out-there" a government gets, the larger the (bloody) mob.

Moderation is best; just as a fat man doesn't
need more food, a rich country doesn't need a higher GDP;
we've forgotten how to be sustainably, moderately productive.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  8d2cf2ae-f340-4a63-9a31-0b6d8a096b5b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--2.19pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  4790d36b-6e7d-4559-b32b-ab1d67e4904a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.25pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  46b231e8-23ff-4b82-bdd1-a622024da52f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.15--2.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m367 Mad; 6.5 Hours, GoogleG,  May 15 {  7:49am, 2019 }:12^(PDT)  XʍSȾ
      "SMS.VoIP.MS"

SteveCarroll replied ( to me ):
> > > > "SMS.VoIP.MS" is really bad, because hitting the "back" key screws things up;
> > > > you have to use special (JavaScript) "buttons", provided by the website.
> > > 
> > > Is it a really old site?
> > 
> > No, their web guy is just really incompetent.
> 
> You sure that's not just holdover code from 'days of old' (some
> sites that have been around awhile, that have been modernized,
> still cling to some of their older code)?

"SMS.VoIP.MS" didn't exist 3 (4?) years ago;
SMS over VoIP is a new thing.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.15--6.43am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      We've forgotten how to be sustainably, moderately productive.

Moderation is best; just as a fat man doesn't
need more food, a rich country doesn't need more money.

Sadly, the world is becoming a proverbial " rat utopia ";
we've forgotten how to be sustainably, moderately productive.
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    Kensi  qbfvp8$7ia$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--10.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m91 Top; 2.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 14 {  8: 7pm, 2019 }: 8^(2)  XʌНȺ
      Kensi's crystal ball.

> Permafrost Melt Could Destroy a Third of All Arctic
> Infrastructure, Affecting as Many as 4 Million People

....cackled Kensi, as she gazed into her crystal ball.

Quoting The World Health Organization:

  Nearly half of the world's population is at risk of malaria.
  In 2015, there were roughly 212 million malaria cases
  and an estimated 429 thousand malaria deaths.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbejdv$1lj$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbfet7$bff$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.34pm.Seattle.2019
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbftap$r3e$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--10.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 4  m271 Mad; 10.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 14 {  7:25pm, 2019 }:29^(-6)  XʌЖə
      The more "out-there" a government gets, the larger the mob.

AnonLinuxUser bold me:
> I'd hate to see Seattle go all out communism tho.
> That is a possibility.

When you outlaw liquor, for example, the mob steps in.
The more "out-there" a government gets, the larger the mob.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbejdv$1lj$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbfet7$bff$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.34pm.Seattle.2019
    sergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qbfni1$15gf$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--6.55pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 4  m11 Shifty; 25.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  May 14 {  5:46pm, 2019 }:55^(-5)  Xʌϵе
      I'm more likely to win the lottery.

sergIo wrote:
> BRAIN-EATING amoebas from Seattle tap water attack elderly woman

I'm more likely to win the lottery, 
get hit by lightning, and then murdered.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
            .  c784cd00-1066-4399-9e1e-e5a3e4f7a499@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbejdv$1lj$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbfet7$bff$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.34pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m69 Cool; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 14 {  3:19pm, 2019 }:26^(-6)  Xʌψɖ
      Seattle tolerates my eccentricities, more so than any other place.

AnonLinuxUser replied ( to me ):
> > Seattle is the devil I know, the one I'm most adapted to.
> > If I knew of a better alternative, I'd take it.
> 
> You may have to do some serious research on line.
> At least you won't get stung.
> But Seattle, from what I've seen so far, is still going downhill.

Seattle tolerates my eccentricities, more so than any other place.
Mentally, I can't think of a better place; 
still, I have this mysterious FEELING that I might be wrong.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  c784cd00-1066-4399-9e1e-e5a3e4f7a499@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  8d2cf2ae-f340-4a63-9a31-0b6d8a096b5b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--2.19pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  4790d36b-6e7d-4559-b32b-ab1d67e4904a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.25pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m364 Mad; 11.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 14 {  3:56pm, 2019 }:45^(PDT)  Xʌϕʥ
      "SMS.VoIP.MS"

SteveCarroll replied ( to me ):
> > "SMS.VoIP.MS" is really bad, because hitting the "back" key screws things up;
> > you have to use special (JavaScript) "buttons", provided by the website.
> 
> Is it a really old site?

No, their web guy is just really incompetent.
I use the site to I send-and-receive text messages,
I'd rather use Bria 5, the app, but it doesn't always work.

Most reliable: text messages are emailed to me.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.36pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  f974ba60-4aff-4f77-9eae-a7694182885b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  c784cd00-1066-4399-9e1e-e5a3e4f7a499@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  8d2cf2ae-f340-4a63-9a31-0b6d8a096b5b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--2.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 17  m363 Mad; 5.1 Hours, GoogleG,  May 14 {  8:13am, 2019 }:36^(PDT)  Xʌʘɠ
      JavaScript... bringing mystery back to computing.

SteveCarroll replied ( to me ):
> > makes left-click open links in a new tab;
> > and it lets me blacklist certain domains, so they don't get modified.
> > 
> > Thanks to JavaScript, different (sub)domains act differently;
> > "News.Google.COM", "Groups.Google.COM", "Google.COM", "YouTube.COM",
> > and "VoIP.MS" all work differently, requiring different code.
> 
> That's what case/switch is for ;) I'm not exactly sure what you're
> referring to with "differently", you mean the left-clicking of tabs?

No, I'm talking about what happens when you left-click a link;
I want ALL LINKS TO OPEN IN A NEW TAB, not in the current tab.

What all these different (sub)domains do, when you left-click,
is very mysterious, because it's JavaScript.
JavaScript... bringing mystery back to computing.

"VoIP.MS" is really bad, because hitting the "back" key screws things up;
you have to use special (JavaScript) "buttons", provided by the website.

> > A number of my tenants lost their jobs recently;
> > some are depressed and addicted to substances;
> > worst are those who won't pay, nor move out, 
> > nor do anything I ask of them.
> 
> Are you the one who screens them to move in ?

Yes, which makes me feel even worse about it.
I'm one of the spoiled rats, so I have no reason to complain.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.36pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  f974ba60-4aff-4f77-9eae-a7694182885b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  c784cd00-1066-4399-9e1e-e5a3e4f7a499@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qbejdv$1lj$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 7  m266 Mad; 5.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 14 {  7:30am, 2019 }:29^(-6)  XʌʑT
      If I knew of a better alternative, I'd take it.

AnonLinuxUser told me:
> You need to bail out of Seattle.  As long as a socialist is
> running Seattle, it will always be a 3rd world rated city.

Seattle is the devil I know, the one I'm most adapted to.
If I knew of a better alternative, I'd take it.
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            Trumped│anon@anonymous_com  73dd6e880d2311e7681de516674e8fca@dizum.com
          default│default@defaulter_net  hn7lded1v88evuj1frg33o40055b2hdm13@4ax.com
        T│T@invalid_invalid  qbe8fv$mf3$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.34am.Seattle.2019
    T│T@invalid_invalid  qbe9r2$v08$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--5.25am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 14 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 14 {  4:46am, 2019 }:40^(-7)  XʌɵЦ
      Americans are at once spoiled -and- greedy.

Someone mentioned:
> Regressives even have their own version of Black Shirts:
> Antifa (Antifaschistische Aktion).

Yes, AntiFa is preaching to the man in the mirror
when they smash windows and denounce Fascism/racism.

> As I said, it will scare the crap out of you.

Not hardly, I'm quite used to it.
More concerning to me is the notion that 
Americans are at once spoiled -and- greedy.
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        Trumped│anon@anonymous_com  73dd6e880d2311e7681de516674e8fca@dizum.com
      default│default@defaulter_net  hn7lded1v88evuj1frg33o40055b2hdm13@4ax.com
    T│T@invalid_invalid  qbe8fv$mf3$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.14--4.34am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 5.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 14 {  4:23am, 2019 }:42^(-7)  Xʌɱფ
      Left Wing Regressives.

Someone mentioned:
> Left Wing loonie fruits (Regressives).

" Left Wing Regressives ", ha ! I'm going to steal that term.
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      .  52722525-dd22-4c2e-ad47-6e2fdf322a62@googlegroups.com
    Kensi  qbdh0i$13t7$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--10.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Rec.Arts.TV, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m75 Top; 38.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 13 {  9:42pm, 2019 }:48^(2)  Xʌlm
      A nuked-up Mexico ?

Kensi wrote:
> Is Trump about to provoke Mexico into an arms race

I'm trying to picture a nuked-up Mexico, but I can't.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.33pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  d4336947-4b14-453e-b407-26f6f2a6aa2f@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.36pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  f974ba60-4aff-4f77-9eae-a7694182885b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  c784cd00-1066-4399-9e1e-e5a3e4f7a499@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--7.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 5  m349 Mad; 28.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 13 {  5:40pm, 2019 }: 3^(PDT)  Xʌ6ϱ
      Asking Mozilla for permission to write decent code.

SteveCarroll replied ( to me ):
> > Actually, I'm happy with the current version of Firefox,
> > even though they forced me to rewrite my extensions;
> > it's time-consuming, but fun.
> 
> How many have you written?

I copied three extensions, from others,
and turned them into four, modified.

One of my extensions calls my X.EXE "console",
to download videos, thus replacing "4kvideodownloader.EXE"
and "YouTube-DL-GUI.EXE"; mine works better and is more convenient.

Another one makes left-click open links in a new tab;
and it lets me blacklist certain domains, so they don't get modified.

Thanks to JavaScript, different (sub)domains act differently;
"News.Google.COM", "Groups.Google.COM", "Google.COM", "YouTube.COM",
and "VoIP.MS" all work differently, requiring different code.

This is why TabMixPlus hasn't been released yet,
two years after Mozilla stomped on it; I gave the author 20$,
because he's willing to wrestle with the Mozilla morons,
asking for permission to write decent code.

One of my extensions makes it easy to open a page|link
in Google Chrome ( in case one of my hacks goes wrong ).

Also, I cleaned-up NoScript's PopUp, so it's easier to use; to wit:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Firefox_NoScript.PNG

> > My rooming-house-manager job is the opposite:
> > lots of free time, no fun.
> 
> I can see that... save for having large-breasted
> beasts enter your humble abode ;)

Loose girls bring too much traffic+trouble into the house;
mature women are better than pajama boys.

A number of my tenants lost their jobs recently;
some are depressed and addicted to substances;
worst are those who won't pay, nor move out, 
nor do anything I ask of them.

America is a " Rat Utopia ";
we've learned to not give a shit, to not work|breed.

I'm just tired of it.
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              TheSnitBot  gjlthkFjuquU1@mid.individual.net
            SteveCarroll  qb4gn3$8fd$1@dont-email.me
          MrChrisV  0tqidep79fr6s5gh2lpjrg6oqb05a1v3kg@4ax.com
        SteveCarroll  6f53f16e-0e7d-403c-a27d-f72fde3c892c@googlegroups.com
      TheSnitBot  gjte3bF88upU5@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  ff554556-7f60-4948-9f94-79675b49ccbc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 15  m344 Mad; 9 Hours, GoogleG,  May 13 {  7:51am, 2019 }:39^(PDT)  XʋКτ
      Snit knows he's wrong; hence his lies and Google-blocking SpamBot.

Snit knows he's wrong; hence his lies and Google-blocking SpamBot.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.18am.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  fc90acc3-32d1-410d-8799-ec4f872dee2c@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.33pm.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  d4336947-4b14-453e-b407-26f6f2a6aa2f@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.36pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  f974ba60-4aff-4f77-9eae-a7694182885b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 18  m344 Mad; 2.1 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 13 {  4:49pm, 2019 }:16^(PDT)  XʋჴɄ
      The browser market is kind of a monopoly.

Steve Carroll quoted Firefox saying:
> This installation of &brandShortName; has a new profile.
>  
> It does not share bookmarks, passwords, and 
> user preferences with other installations of Firefox 
> (including Firefox, Firefox ESR, Firefox Beta, 
> Firefox Developer Edition, and Firefox Nightly).  
> 
> To sync information you’ve already saved to Firefox 
> with this installation of &brandShortName;, sign in 
> with your &syncBrand.fxAccount.label;.  

The browser market is kind of a monopoly, or duopoly;
you can't just buy a better browser,
so they take advantage of you.

I'm actually quite happy with the current version of Firefox,
even though they forced me to rewrite my extensions;
it's time-consuming, but fun.

My rooming-house-manager job is the opposite:
lots of free time, no fun.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.18am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  fc90acc3-32d1-410d-8799-ec4f872dee2c@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.33pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  d4336947-4b14-453e-b407-26f6f2a6aa2f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 21  m343 Mad; 38.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  May 13 {  3:46pm, 2019 }:45^(PDT)  XʋჩЫ
      Quantum's "developer" edition.

Steve Carroll:
> I didn't realize Mozilla limited tweaking to just Quantum, 

"Quantum" (Firefox 57+), normal edition, will NOT run my extensions;
for that, you need Quantum's "developer" edition.
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            MsNadegda  qbag57$clj$21@dont-email.me
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  %w7CE.36096$s85.17953@fx34.iad
        MsNadegda  qbb3o0$clj$24@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.39am.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qbclkb$clj$34@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m101 Cool; 29.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 13 {  1:55pm, 2019 }:39  Xʋთɣ
      Is Nadegda going to blue-eyed Finland ?

Ms Nadegda: > <rechecks bug-out kit>

Are you going to blue-eyed Finland,
to be at the feet of your mistress ?
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37413f9cc7bb06da997187@news.altopia.com
            Kensi  qb89ne$1ofv$1@gioia.aioe.org
          ScottDoty  gjpr96Ff2elU1@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.12--0.23am.Seattle.2019
      MsNadegda  qb9s57$clj$17@dont-email.me
    MsNadegda  qbckt2$clj$32@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m101 Cool; 41.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 13 {  1:43pm, 2019 }:14  Xʋვɀ
      One doesn't have to be gay to think Kavanaugh is sexier than Ford.

Likely, you ( Ms Nadegda ) think Lady Gaga ( in " a Star is Born " )
is sexier than me; that doesn't make you a lesbian, right ?!

Likewise, one doesn't have to be gay to think Kavanaugh is sexier than Ford.
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              TheSnitBot  gjroc5FrulnU1@mid.individual.net
            Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.37426849f9a114f4989812@news.eternal-september.org
          TheSnitBot  gjs2s3Ftvd3U2@mid.individual.net
        MsNadegda  qbalp3$clj$23@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.15am.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qbcke5$clj$30@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  m101 Cool; 49.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 13 {  1:35pm, 2019 }:17  Xʋდы
      Ford was an estrogen-poisoned sorority girl-cum-hag.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > "Rapepublicans" ?  Your Apocalypse-cult hysteria
> > is out of bounds; I have no desire to rape.
> 
> But you support those who do.  Kavanaugh, for one.

Kavanaugh may have been a testosterone-poisoned frat boy,
but that doesn't negate the fact that 
Ford was an estrogen-poisoned sorority girl-cum-hag.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.18am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  fc90acc3-32d1-410d-8799-ec4f872dee2c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--3.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 24  m340 Mad; 7.3 Hours, GoogleG,  May 13 {  7: 4am, 2019 }:14^(PDT)  XʋВϼ
      To run on the normal edition, extensions must pass review.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > I'm getting good at writing extensions.
> 
> <thumbs up>

Thanks, I'm glad someone appreciates it.

Sometimes, it's so easy/fun for me, I tend to it
like a woman knitting in front of a soap opera.

Besides the JavaScript extensions, I "inspect" and modify
"userChrome.CSS" ( Firefox's toolbars, bookmarks, etc. ),
and "userContent.CSS" ( site-specific CSS including:

  url(moz-extension://b5cbc727-0b97-4487-8c76-0aa0fb99f1b7/ui/popup.html)
  url(about:addons)  url(about:preferences)   )

> > To create extensions, you need "Node.JS";
> 
> It helps ;)

Oops, you got me; I was wrong.

" Zip -r ..\Jeff@Relf.XPI * " works almost as well as
Node.JS' " web-ext build ";  I just wanted to see 
if there might be some other "magic" to it
( it spits warnings|errors, like a compiler ).

> > you can't install extensions on anything but
> > the "Developer" edition of "Quantum" Firefox.
> 
> When did that happen?

Two years ago, 2017, with "quantum" Firefox 57;
to run on the normal edition, it must pass review. 

Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
      I'm getting good at writing extensions.

With Mozilla disabling my two-year-old extensions,
and no replacements in sight, I had to (re)write 4 extensions,
to make them work properly for me.

To create extensions, you need "Node.JS";
and you can't install them on anything but
the "Developer" edition of "Quantum" Firefox.

"Quantum" is a euphemism for (random) "bullshit".

On the on the bright side, 
I'm getting good at writing extensions.
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        MsNadegda  qbajam$clj$22@dont-email.me
      The_Milk_of_Human_Kindness│a@b_  8knhde5trpboju1ohr036265grl3baht1c@4ax.com
    MsNadegda  qbb40i$clj$26@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--5.00am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  m109 Cool; 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 12 { 11:48pm, 2019 }:51  XʋΝp
      The best and the brightest flee NadegdaStyle oppression.

Bored out of her mind, Ms Nadegda dreamed:
> We've become Weimar Germany, 1930, folks.
> Soon, your ilk will try to seize power with the intention of 
> unleashing horror, and we will have to stop you.  With force.

Hitler was jealous of the super rich, intelligent Jews of his day;
consequently, the Deutsche Mark became worthless.

Same thing happened more recently, in Venezuela;
the best and the brightest flee NadegdaStyle oppression,
where governments steal wholesale, 
giving back just enough to keep their "cows" alive.
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        MsNadegda  qbag57$clj$21@dont-email.me
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  %w7CE.36096$s85.17953@fx34.iad
    MsNadegda  qbb3o0$clj$24@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.39am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m109 Cool; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 12 { 11:44pm, 2019 }:16  XʋΜʈ
      The world isn't not ending.

Ms Nadegda hopes:
> Trump will plow the economy straight into a mountainside
> at Mach 0.8 SOMETIME IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.  <snicker>

Get back to work, Nadegda, the world isn't ending; last 100 years,
America has recovered nicely from downturns, as has Trump.

But you won't, because you're too "fat" (rich), and to worried 
that others might be "fatter" (richer) than you.
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              MsNadegda  qb9vaq$clj$20@dont-email.me
            Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  gh1CE.8353$h75.5791@fx41.iad
          TheSnitBot  gjroc5FrulnU1@mid.individual.net
        Skeeter│lol@qmail_com  MPG.37426849f9a114f4989812@news.eternal-september.org
      TheSnitBot  gjs2s3Ftvd3U2@mid.individual.net
    MsNadegda  qbalp3$clj$23@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--4.15am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  m109 Cool; 5.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 12 {  7:45pm, 2019 }:55  Xʋʓϛ
      "Cows" like Ms Nadegda.

Ms Nadegda cackled:
> Rapepublicans are now hostile not only to democracy, 
> but even to the rule of law itself.
> We're dealing with medievalism here!

"Rapepublicans" ?  Your Apocalypse-cult hysteria is out of bounds;
I have no desire to rape.  Democrats steal wholesale,
giving back just enough to keep "cows" ( like you ) alive.

Now, ride off on your broom.
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              MsNadegda  qb7o71$clj$11@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--5.29pm.Seattle.2019
          Kensi  qb85ft$18cg$2@gioia.aioe.org
        Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37413f9cc7bb06da997187@news.altopia.com
      Kensi  qb89ne$1ofv$1@gioia.aioe.org
    ScottDoty  gjpr96Ff2elU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.12--0.23am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m90 Top; 1.2 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  May 11 { 11: 3pm, 2019 }:18  XʊкΨ
      Autistics Scott Doty, Kensi and Nadegda.

The autism is strong in these ones ( Scott Doty, Kensi and Nadegda ).

Ms Nadegda said her "peeled cucumber" is sexier than me;
and I said Kavanaugh is sexier than Ford.

It's relative; it does not mean that Nadegda is doing cucumbers,
nor does it mean that I'm doing Kavanaugh.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
            Kensi  qb5h6m$1m0o$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.23pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qb7fn8$clj$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--4.15pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qb7o71$clj$11@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--5.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    +-, 13.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 11 {  5: 9pm, 2019 }: 5  XʊϡΚ
      Nadegda the cucumber fucker.

Ms Nadegda told me:
> I think a peeled cucumber is sexier than you, so ...

By your logic, that makes you a cucumber fucker.

Kavanaugh is sexier than Ford; I'm not a Kavanaugh fucker.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
            Kensi  qb5haq$1m0o$4@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.18pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  qb5ih4$1srk$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.53pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qb7ftc$clj$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  m95 Cool; 28.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 11 {  2:47pm, 2019 }:24  Xʊςგ
      MsNadegda's Delusions of Grandeur.

Ms Nadegda told me:
> the cabal might permit you to post to Usenet again. Might.

Delusions of grandeur noted.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.38pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uc4cdeli8qstkvup45pph85uuasd39ck7l@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  qb5h6m$1m0o$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.23pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qb7fn8$clj$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.11--4.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 7  m95 Cool; 31.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 11 {  2:44pm, 2019 }: 8  Xʊςʀ
      Is Nadegda lesbian if she thinks ssSniperWolf is sexier than me ?

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > > > Kavanaugh is sexy, Ford is a toxic shit-rag.
> > 
> > I'm MGTOW; not incel, not gay.
> 
> You found Kavanaugh sexier than Ford. 

Right, because he is.

> Unless you're a straight woman, that means you're gay.

I don't fuck men, I don't kiss men, nor do I want to.

Are you lesbian if you think ssSniperWolf is sexier than me ?

  " SPOILED Girl Thinks She Can BUY ANYTHING " by ssSniperWolf
  YouTube.COM/watch?v=osZjBqsorQU
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            .  4c776ff0-7d2d-4b68-8e0d-a49b748c9a03@googlegroups.com
          .  80be1022-50e6-4f65-8493-4124630aef0b@googlegroups.com
        Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  b0f11fff-eb40-96a2-decf-d5840cdd2b4a@PointedEars.de
      .  27b1d459-9681-4320-b858-60c165aef57d@googlegroups.com
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  3a3bea57-59a7-ff2b-b0e1-91e1a82aa1c2@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--10.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m42 Cool; 8.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Home.Meteotest.CH➤Bgeserver.DE,  May 10 {  2:14pm, 2019 }:26^(2)  Xʉლʒ
      Thomas Lahn is autistic, he doesn't understand social cues.

Thomas Lahn is autistic, he doesn't understand social cues.

He can't stop "rick" from posting to USENET,
there are simply too many ways in.

What's more, he quotes Rick like I quote Einstein,
which tells you where his mind is at.

NewsGroups are not Wikipedia pages.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.38pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uc4cdeli8qstkvup45pph85uuasd39ck7l@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  qb5h6m$1m0o$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.23pm.Seattle.2019
    ！Sir_Greg  5P-dndWLubHq00vBnZ2dnUU7-cHNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--10.08pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m70 Dropped; 15.5 Minutes, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM,  May 10 {  9:24pm, 2019 }:23^(-5)  XʊiN
      I have no guns, nor anger.

AnAnonymousCreep replied ( to me ):
> > I'm MGTOW; not incel, not gay.
> > Now, fly off on your broom.
> 
> you can have a nice life patting yourself on the back
> and knowing that you're better then everybody...

....he said, looking in the mirror, gulping another Vente espresso.

> I hope you don't have guns.

I'm extremely happy, you should not be worried about me. 
I have no guns, nor anger.

Now, lay off the caffeine.
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B47A1A420Cgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            MsNadegda  qb4j24$cth$64@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  qb5haq$1m0o$4@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.18pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qb5ih4$1srk$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m79 Top; 20.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 10 {  9:19pm, 2019 }:41^(2)  Xʊhɥ
      Google: Divorce Rates.

Kensi cackled ( to me ):
> > Democrats, including pajama boys and metrosexuals,
> > can't get divorced because they've never been married.
> 
> I'm a dipshit; so I imagine that 
> " Divorce Rates " are a percentage of marriages.

Google: Divorce Rates.

  " Crude divorce rate. 
    This is divorces per 1,000 population per year. "

Without marriage, there is no divorce.
This is yet another one of your red herrings,
like " income inequality" ( in a world of plenty ).

2018, South Korea had the lowest fertility rate ( 0.98 births / woman ).
The poorest and most rural parts of Africa have the highest.

Now, fly off on your broom.
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A43AFCC0EBgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            MsNadegda  qb1vm5$cth$50@dont-email.me
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B4D2CA4E43greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        MsNadegda  qb4id5$cth$61@dont-email.me
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4BB6E155CC0greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    Kensi  qb5ftm$1h6r$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m78 Top; 35 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 10 {  8:35pm, 2019 }:11^(2)  XʊZх
      56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy.

Kensi replied ( to her superior ):
> > Honey you need professional help.  You are completely deluded.
> > The world is not ending.  Weather changes.  All the time.
> > For 4.5 billion years.
> 
> Not like this. The only time it even came close before 
> was the PETM, 55 million years or so ago.

56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.

4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
13.8 billion years ago, The Known Universe was infinitely hot / dense.
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    Kensi  qb5eo2$1e86$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m78 Top; 55.1 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 10 {  8:15pm, 2019 }: 7^(2)  XʊWΜ
      Pop open the champagne corks.

Pop open the champagne corks:
> Greenland Is Now Losing Ice Six Times Faster Than It Was in 1980
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              MsNadegda  qb4j24$cth$64@dont-email.me
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4BB64806F5Egreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.38pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uc4cdeli8qstkvup45pph85uuasd39ck7l@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qb5h6m$1m0o$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 7  m78 Top; 13.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 10 {  8:57pm, 2019 }: 3^(2)  XʊdΘ
      I'm MGTOW; not incel, not gay.

Kensi cackled ( to me ):
> > Kavanaugh is sexy, Ford is a toxic shit-rag.
> 
> But if you're gay, why the hell are you a conservative ?

I'm MGTOW; not incel, not gay.

Now, fly off on your broom.
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A4A6AB6CF1greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--4.32am.Seattle.2019
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B47A1A420Cgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        MsNadegda  qb4j24$cth$64@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qb5haq$1m0o$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  m78 Top; 11 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May 10 {  8:59pm, 2019 }:16^(2)  Xʊdъ
      We've learned to not give a shit.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > " Republicans are more likely to be stably and happily married
> >    than Democrats " -- Nancy Flory, December 6, 2018
> 
> Nancy Flory is wrong:
>   Who-do-conservatives-blame-for-the-high-divorce-rates-in-red-states

Democrats, including pajama boys and metrosexuals,
can't get divorced because they've never been married. 

America is a " Rat Utopia ";
we've learned to not give a shit, to not work|breed.

In a world of plenty, 
the Democrats' " income inequality " mantra is a red Herring.
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    JohnGohde  82f43eb3-d7d5-45b6-9626-3a35a641af84@googlegroups.COM
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--9.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.Lang.C++
    -Dropped, 1.3 Days, GoogleG, 72.84.209.122,  May  9 {   :56pm, 2019 }:28^(PDT)  Xʉɍʔ
      A "Quantum" is so TINY, photons push it around, randomly.

John Gohde wrote:
> FoxFire has pretty much stopped working

Mozilla remotely disabled my Firefox 56 (2017) extensions !
So I'm customizing the latest version of Firefox, "Quantum"
( a "Quantum" is so TINY, photons push it around, randomly ).

When my hacks go wrong, because Quantum doesn't want "hackers" (people)
tampering with their precious product ( blocking their ad revenue ), 
I use either "-safe-mode" ( the command line switch ) or Google Chrome.

Getting everything to open in a new tab is VERY difficult;
" Tab Mix Plus " doesn't work anymore, thanks to TINY Quantum; 
so I'm using the (flaky) "Open In New Tab" extension on 
" *YouTube.COM " and " *Google.COM ".

While I enjoy "hacking", it's time consuming, and I sometimes give up;
if you have less experience than me, as most do, you'll give up sooner.

> YouTube Downloader plugin still works in Ubuntu,
> I mainly use YouTube in Ubuntu Mate for watching full length movies.
> 
> now that I have gotten the Kodi Media Center to work with video add-ons,
> there is little need to download anything.

Using my custom console, "X.EXE", I run:

  /__/EXEs/YouTube-DL  --embed-subs  --write-auto-sub --no-playlist
    --buffer-size 222k  -f "bestvideo[height<=720]+bestaudio/best"
    -o "../MKV/-- YouTube Recent/%(title)s -- %(id)s  .%(ext)s"
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=diPrOl4QZ_E

" YouTube-DL ", which works on hundreds of sites, outputs:

  WARNING: The url doesn't specify the protocol, trying with http
  [YouTube] diPrOl4QZ_E: Downloading webpage
  [YouTube] diPrOl4QZ_E: Downloading video info webpage
  [YouTube] Downloading just video diPrOl4QZ_E because of --no-playlist
  [YouTube] diPrOl4QZ_E: Looking for automatic captions
  [info] Writing video subtitles to: ..\MKV\-- YouTube Recent\Ten of the Most Influential Philosophers of the Twentieth Century & What They Believed -- diPrOl4QZ_E  .en.vtt
  [download] 100% of 79.69MiB in 00:31                 
  [download] 100% of 12.71MiB in 00:05                 
  [ffmpeg] Merging formats into "..\MKV\-- YouTube Recent\Ten of the Most Influential Philosophers of the Twentieth Century & What They Believed -- diPrOl4QZ_E  .mp4"
  Deleting original file ..\MKV\-- YouTube Recent\Ten of the Most Influential Philosophers of the Twentieth Century & What They Believed -- diPrOl4QZ_E  .f136.mp4 (pass -k to keep)
  Deleting original file ..\MKV\-- YouTube Recent\Ten of the Most Influential Philosophers of the Twentieth Century & What They Believed -- diPrOl4QZ_E  .f140.m4a (pass -k to keep)
  [ffmpeg] Embedding subtitles in '..\MKV\-- YouTube Recent\Ten of the Most Influential Philosophers of the Twentieth Century & What They Believed -- diPrOl4QZ_E  .mp4'
  Deleting original file ..\MKV\-- YouTube Recent\Ten of the Most Influential Philosophers of the Twentieth Century & What They Believed -- diPrOl4QZ_E  .en.vtt (pass -k to keep)

From " X.CPP " in " Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP ":

  //  "fnVid" ( YouTube.COM/watch?v=diPrOl4QZ_E ) 
  //  comes from the command line ( sent from a YouTube page ) 
  //  -- or from the clipboard, when the "Vid" button is hit.
  //  
  //  In Firefox, I right-click a video link ( in YouTube ) 
  //  and select " Open in IE " so "X.EXE" downloads it.
  //  
  //  The " [download] 100% of 12.71MiB in 00:05 " line
  //  continually updates ( CreatePipe() ), as "YouTube-DL" runs.

  GetVideo() { LnP  B, P = fnVid, E = 0, Command_Line = _T ;  

    SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES Inherit = { sizeof( SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES ) };
    ClearScreen, Inherit.bInheritHandle = 1 ;  

    //  Strip off leading+trailing crap from a USENET post:
    LoopP( White || Ch == '<' || Ch == '>' );
    fnVid = B = Loc( L"://", P ) ? P_Find + LenPat : P ;
    LoopBacP( White || Ch == '>' );  

    //  In my custom console, Sh() is printf().
    P[1] = 0, Sh( L"\n--%s--\n\n%s\n\n", fnVid, gVideo );
    Str( Command_Line, L"%s  %s", gVideo, fnVid );

    PROCESS_INFORMATION Stat = {};  
    STARTUPINFO SU ={ sizeof( STARTUPINFO ) };
    SU.dwFlags = STARTF_USESTDHANDLES | STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW;

    SU.wShowWindow = SW_HIDE ;  static  HANDLE  r, w ;
    CreatePipe( &r, &w, &Inherit, 0 );
    SetHandleInformation( r, HANDLE_FLAG_INHERIT, 0 ); 

    SU.hStdOutput = SU.hStdError = w ; 
    SU.hStdInput = GetStdHandle( STD_INPUT_HANDLE ) ;
    if ( !CreateProcess( 0, Command_Line, 0,0,1,0,0,0, &SU , &Stat ) ) {

      Sh( L"[ %s ] failed to run.", Command_Line );  
      CloseHandle( SU.hStdOutput );  goto  EoStream ;  }

    else { 

      CloseHandle( w );  //  <== a vital, CRITICAL, TRICK !!! 
      int  EoStream = 0 ;

      while ( Nap(), !EoStream && WaitForSingleObject( Stat.hThread, 0 )
        && ( _Sz = 0, _B = _LnP( _B_Sh ),

        //   ReadFile() hangs if you call it when "EoStream" is true.
        EoStream = !ReadFile( r, _B, mxBytesSh, (ulong *)&_Sz, 0 )
        || !_Sz, _Sz ) )  

            _E = _B + _Sz, _E[ -1*( _E[-1] == 10 ) ] = 0,
            *_B == 13 ? _B++, Ln.PP-- : 0, Sh( L"%S", _B );

      CloseHandle( Stat.hProcess ), CloseHandle( Stat.hThread );  }

   EoStream:
       //  Append the results to my "╲╱.TXT" file:
       Sh( Sep ), MsgOnTop = 1, SaveShowReport( L"╲╱" );

       if ( CloseHandle( r ), OneNDone )

         WinProc( Win, WM_SYSCOMMAND, SC_CLOSE, 0 );  }
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    Tattoo_Vampire│sitting@this_  ord9det2kgihqfsblotrg9ref1ekk3fu5d@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 14  m24 Cool; 1 Days, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  9 {  4:28pm, 2019 }:29^(-4)  XʉɲЛ
      Mozilla remotely disabled my Firefox 56 (2017) extensions !

Tattoo Vampire asked:
> any decent newsreaders for Mac ?

There's nothing I enjoy more than customizing my own personal newsreader,
that I wrote all by myself, and customizing Mozilla Firefox and Visual Studio.

Otherwise, you must settle for less.  Mozilla Thunderbird ?

Mozilla remotely disabled my Firefox 56 (2017) extensions !
So I'm customizing the latest version of "Quantum" Firefox.

When things go wrong, because Mozilla doesn't want "hackers" (people)
tampering with their precious product ( blocking their ad revenue ), 
I use either "-safe-mode" ( the command line switch ) or Google Chrome.

While I enjoy "hacking", it's time consuming, and I sometimes give up;
if you have less experience than me, as most do, you'll give up sooner.
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A43AFCC0EBgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            MsNadegda  qb1vm5$cth$50@dont-email.me
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B4D2CA4E43greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        MsNadegda  qb4id5$cth$61@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.58pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  qt4cdeh11or1bg5690jl88ipb4cddm48ja@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.25pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m110 Dropped; 2.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  May 10 {  5:15pm, 2019 }:28^(-4)  Xʊ2ι
      Don't worry about Feminists, they're doing fine.

Greg replied ( to me ):
> > Feminists are unfuckable.
> 
> Let the misandrists suffer all alone with their sex toys.

Don't worry about them, they're doing fine.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--4.32am.Seattle.2019
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B47A1A420Cgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          MsNadegda  qb4j24$cth$64@dont-email.me
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4BB64806F5Egreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.38pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uc4cdeli8qstkvup45pph85uuasd39ck7l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m110 Dropped; 12.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  May 10 {  5: 5pm, 2019 }:17^(-4)  Xʊ0ы
      Kavanaugh is sexy, Ford is a toxic shit-rag.

Sorry, Greg, I meant to say:
> Kavanaugh is sexy, Ford is a toxic shit-rag.
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              Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-EDC757.07273506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
            Klaus_Schadenfreude│  7jh0de14gppeatce6s5a553694duukp40c@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  num0del4708dat1q1q516lto70acf947jh@4ax.com
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A44E269AF7greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      MrChrisV  i368deh616ue1a6niq6aqg5rfp3p6unpu1@4ax.com
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B48D85F895greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--5.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    +-, 12.9 Hours, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 10 {  4: 9am, 2019 }:40  Xʉϗυ
      Germany was defeated by the very Jews they expelled.

Avenging Angel:
> Hitler had his reasons for hating Jews.

No, it was jealousy; Hitler was like Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela.
Always, " eat the rich " ends in hyperinflation; 
the smartest, richest and best leave the country.

Germany was defeated by the very Jews they expelled.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.373a992d706b50019970c9@news.altopia.com
            Kensi  qatj3p$5df$2@gioia.aioe.org
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A43AFCC0EBgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        MsNadegda  qb1vm5$cth$50@dont-email.me
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B4D2CA4E43greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    MsNadegda  qb4id5$cth$61@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.58pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m88 Cool; 3.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 10 {   :11pm, 2019 }:34  Xʉхნ
      Feminists are unfuckable.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Avenging Angel ):
> > Ain't no man gonna fuck you, Ms Nadegda.
> 
> virulent misogyny.

Feminists are unfuckable.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A4A6AB6CF1greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--4.32am.Seattle.2019
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B47A1A420Cgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      MsNadegda  qb4j24$cth$64@dont-email.me
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4BB64806F5Egreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.38pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 14  m57 Cool; 56.2 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 10 {  2:55pm, 2019 }: 9  XʉსȻ
      Ford is sexy, Kavanaugh is a toxic shit-rag.

Avenging_Angel:
> I wouldn't date a lib, they're too angry.
> I'm too old for that shit.

Nothing is uglier than a feminist.

Ford is sexy, Kavanaugh is a toxic shit-rag.
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              MsNadegda  qaqr0t$cth$28@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A4A6AB6CF1greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--4.32am.Seattle.2019
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4B47A1A420Cgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    MsNadegda  qb4j24$cth$64@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 8  m88 Cool; 3.5 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 10 {   :22pm, 2019 }:44  XʉчЪ
      Rich Americans aren't interested in marriage+kids.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to Avenging Angel ):
> conservatives-are-whining-because-no-one-wants-to-date-them

That's because rich Americans aren't interested in marriage+kids;
if you have any brains, you're MGTOW ( not incel ).

" Republicans are more likely to be stably and happily married
  than Democrats " -- Nancy Flory, December 6, 2018
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              Kensi  qap1ms$1dg0$10@gioia.aioe.org
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          Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-EDC757.07273506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
        Klaus_Schadenfreude│  7jh0de14gppeatce6s5a553694duukp40c@4ax.com
      Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-031B32.08152506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A45481CBFCgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--1.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m42 Cool; 9.1 Hours, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  9 {  3:48am, 2019 }:39  Xʈცd
      Pajama Boy.

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/PajamaBoy.JPG" Alt="Pajama Boy">
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              Kensi  qap1ms$1dg0$10@gioia.aioe.org
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4745D6E1C49greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-EDC757.07273506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
        Klaus_Schadenfreude│  7jh0de14gppeatce6s5a553694duukp40c@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  num0del4708dat1q1q516lto70acf947jh@4ax.com
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A44E269AF7greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--0.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m42 Cool; 8.3 Hours, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  9 {  3:46am, 2019 }:18  XʈჩА
      By law, only SmellyWalmartPeople are racist.

Avenging Angel replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > like so many right-wingers, you're a shitty person, deep down.
> 
> So you're a bigot who hates whole groups of people? What a turd.

By law, only SmellyWalmartPeople are racist.
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              TheSnitBot  gj8p74FohpjU4@mid.individual.net
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        TheSnitBot  gjav0nF8drsU2@mid.individual.net
      Klaus_Schadenfreude│  ou11de97uhgd2g0n10jf0ugmfcl2rfnhrg@4ax.com
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA484C78DBA2Agreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--0.38pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 10  m42 Cool; 2.3 Days, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  7 {  4:31am, 2019 }: 3  Xʇϛȵ
      " Eat the rich " ( the Democrats' mantra ).

I'm the poorest man here, bar none.

When TheSnitBot says I " worship the rich " he means: 
" Eat the rich " ( the Democrats' mantra ).

In Venezuela, the result of this philosophy is:

  Since 2015, 3 million people have left. 
  an estimated 5,000 people move to Colombia every day.

  Hyperinflation has wiped out life savings and diminished salaries.

  Food is scarce.  People queue outside supermarkets for hours
  to get rationed rice or a piece of meat.

  Lacking of medical supplies, people are dying.
  Blackouts have plunged the country into darkness.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  Sa5AE.2594$h75.2172@fx41.iad
            TheSnitBot  gjc5kcFgg8sU2@mid.individual.net
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  Mj9AE.1896$Kv5.687@fx45.iad
        TheSnitBot  gjdipmFpqa2U3@mid.individual.net
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  xqnAE.2917$G85.784@fx38.iad
    MsNadegda  qatg1f$cth$37@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--0.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 6  m71 Cool; 1.7 Days, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  7 {  7:48pm, 2019 }:15  XʈSF
      The government is a monopoly, you control 0.000000% of it.

Mr. Reality wrote:
> > SOCIALISM is about power, money, and exploiting others.

Fantasy replied:
> No, it's about the workers owning the means of production.

The government is a monopoly, you control 0.000000% of it.

The best you could do would be to rally everyone into an 
" eat the rich " frenzy, as Hugo Chavez did, in Venezuela.

  Since 2015, 3 million people have left Venezuela. 
  an estimated 5,000 people move to Colombia every day.

  Hyperinflation has wiped out life savings and diminished salaries.

  Food is scarce.  People queue outside supermarkets for hours
  to get rationed rice or a piece of meat.

  Lacking of medical supplies, people are dying.
  Blackouts have plunged the country into darkness.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.24pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  gjbvh2Fe1d6U4@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qaqr0t$cth$28@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4A4A6AB6CF1greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--4.32am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 13  m42 Cool; 3.3 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  9 {  4:18am, 2019 }:56  Xʈჯu
      You want me to work my ass off ?!

Avenging Angel replied ( to me ):
> > You ( Ms Nadegda ) continually fail to understand
> > the difference between an incel (Greg) and a MGTOW (me).
> 
> If you would move out of the shithole you call home
> you would find a worthy woman.

You want me to work my ass off ?! for a bitch ?

Sure, right after I chop off my dick.
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              TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA46924F6D2AAgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          MsNadegda  qaniq3$cth$11@dont-email.me
        Kensi  qap0ke$1dg0$3@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.373a992d706b50019970c9@news.altopia.com
    Kensi  qatj3p$5df$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--3.59am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m69 Top; 1.3 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  7 {  8:40pm, 2019 }:38^(2)  XʈaФ
      " Eat the rich " worked well in Venezuela, didn't it ?

Kensi cackled:
> destroy white, hetero male privilege

" Eat the rich " worked well in Venezuela, didn't it ?

thejournal.ie/venezuela-crisis-migration-colombia-4612042-May2019/

  Three million people have left since 2015. 
  an estimated 5,000 people move to Colombia every day.

  Hyperinflation has wiped out life savings and diminished salaries.

  Food is scarce.  People queue outside supermarkets for hours
  to get rationed rice or a piece of meat.

  People are dying because of a lack of medical supplies.
  Blackouts have plunged the country into darkness.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  Mj9AE.1896$Kv5.687@fx45.iad
            TheSnitBot  gjdipmFpqa2U3@mid.individual.net
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  xqnAE.2917$G85.784@fx38.iad
        MsNadegda  qatg1f$cth$37@dont-email.me
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  WXrAE.24376$Rg5.13544@fx33.iad
    Kensi  qatj26$5df$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--3.43am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m69 Top; 1.3 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  7 {  8:39pm, 2019 }:47^(2)  Xʈaϒ
      We know who our masters are.

Down on the plantation, we know who our masters are;
they're the ones with the guns.

Like a a house niggar, Kensi says they're nice people,
chosen by us, the people.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
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    Kensi  qatihg$390$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--3.29am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 6  m69 Top; 1.3 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  7 {  8:30pm, 2019 }:52^(2)  XʈZq
      Sane People Cheer Melting Sea Ice.

You (Kensi) mentioned:
> Trump Official Cheers Melting Sea Ice

He's sane, and you're not.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.24pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  gjbvh2Fe1d6U4@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
        MsNadegda  qaqr0t$cth$28@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qaspn6$cth$34@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    +-, 5.5 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  7 {  1:27pm, 2019 }:18  XʇგΨ
      We've learned to not give a shit, to not work|breed.

Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ):
> > You ( Ms Nadegda ) continually fail to understand
> > the difference between an incel (Greg) and a MGTOW (me).
> 
> One flavor of die-hard misogynist is just as terrible as another ...

Put your broom away, Wicked Witch of the West.

America is a " Rat Utopia ";
we've learned to not give a shit, to not work|breed.

In a world of plenty, 
the Democrats' " income inequality " mantra is a red Herring.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--0.46pm.Seattle.2019
            Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-137F65.14155206052019@reader.eternal-september.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.24pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  gjbvh2Fe1d6U4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  qaqr0t$cth$28@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--10.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m57 Cool; 25 Secs, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  6 {  7:37pm, 2019 }:17  XʇʒɅ
      What does "income inequality" mean in a world of plenty ?

You ( Ms Nadegda ) continually fail to understand
the difference between an incel (Greg) and a MGTOW (me).

Getting back to the original issue...

What does "income inequality" mean in a world of plenty,
and why would it stop someone from breeding ?
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            SamWormley  492551a8-25bb-4a47-9742-965e4dbb3831@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.22pm.Seattle.2019
        PaulAlsing  4bbb8d3d-1fb7-4440-99c1-c43b603fca2a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.59pm.Seattle.2019
    PaulAlsing  6fb7145d-336c-4f57-82da-37331d2ac451@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--10.08pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m48 Cool; 27.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  May  6 {  8:41pm, 2019 }:32^(PDT)  Xʇʜლ
      Hubble's so-called "constant" is growing larger.

Paul Alsing replied ( to me ):
> > Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.
> 
> Evidence for this claim ?

I told you, Hubble's so-called "constant" is growing larger;
it was smallest (67.66) at the CMBR, near the start of the Big Bang,
and largerest (73.24) at today's type Ia supernova era.

In between, at the Quasar era,
the Hubble "constant" was in the middle (72.5).

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M

> > Quantum particles can degenerate into 
> > a form that is so cold, they can't radiate.
> 
> Evidence for this claim?

95% of the Milky Way is a sphere of cold dark matter; 
other than gravitation, it doesn't interact with ordinary matter;
so I can't produce decent evidence.
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              Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  7QXzE.9953$8z4.5515@fx03.iad
            Klaus_Schadenfreude│  d711deh9p6vpoif1239lqhm6q99q85s0mv@4ax.com
          Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-602C58.14100406052019@reader.eternal-september.org
        ScottDoty  gjbtsvFe1d6U2@mid.individual.net
      Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-61BAA9.17281906052019@reader.eternal-september.org
    ScottDoty  gjc3bjFg09jU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--6.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m78 Top; 17.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May  6 {  5:55pm, 2019 }:15  XʇʁɁ
      Give Trump's inheritance to a heroin addict.

Scott Doty replied ( to Siri ):
> > Since iDJT inheritted much of his wealth, he's not a capitalist.
> > That makes him a commie.
> 
> Explains why he is so deferent to the russkies.

Give Trump's inheritance to a heroin addict,
then count the days until he's dead.

Google: Lottery Winners Who Have Gone Bankrupt

Quoting Natalya Nosova, Apr 17 2018:

  Communism as a state ideology is dead in Russia.
  This is official. 
  " No ideology may be established as a state or obligatory one," 
  goes Article 13 of Russia's Constitution adopted in 1993.

  This is a major difference compared to 
  previous Soviet constitutions 
  that emphasized the Communist Party ( CPSU ) was 
  " the leading and guiding force of Soviet society
    and the nucleus of its political system. "
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4745D6E1C49greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-EDC757.07273506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--0.46pm.Seattle.2019
        Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-137F65.14155206052019@reader.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.24pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  gjbvh2Fe1d6U4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m78 Top; 29 Secs, Pan, Individual.NET,  May  6 {  4:49pm, 2019 }:55  Xʇɶɳ
      Rich white guys are pushing around (relatively) poor black dudes.

Scott Doty replied ( to me ):
> > " Rat Utopia " experiments indicate:
> > dense communities have too many attackers, too much vice.
> > 
> > First, males stop guarding mothers ( too many attackers );
> > then mothers stop raising kids ( again, too many attackers ).
> 
> Humans are not rats.

Right, we just mimic them, exactly.

Quoting "SmithsonianMag.COM":

    isolation [ i.e. gated communities ] enabled aggressive mice
    to stake out territory and isolate the beautiful ones.
             ....
    The few secluded spaces housed a population Calhoun 
    called, "the beautiful ones."  

    Generally guarded by one male, the females ( and a few males )
    inside the space didn't breed or fight,
    or do anything but eat and groom and sleep.

Which is EXACTLY what we see today, in big, rich cities.
The world is shrinking; there's a backlash against globalization,
towards nationalism.  The Cold War is stronger than ever.

Trump won rural America; his supporters are labeled 
" smelly Walmart people " ( Peter Strzok )
and " irredeemable deplorables " (Hillary).

> Instead of a population problem, one could argue
> that Universe 25 had a fair distribution problem.

Q. Why didn't the ugly ones breed ?
A. Dense communities have too many attackers, too much vice.

If it's all relative, and "income inequality" matters in the NFL:

  Rich white guys are pushing around (relatively) poor black dudes,
  same as the antebellum plantation.

Thou shalt not covet.

> Read the article, visit the science, learn the concepts,
> express the knowledge.   Share and enjoy.

Follow your own advice, please.
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        SamWormley  492551a8-25bb-4a47-9742-965e4dbb3831@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.22pm.Seattle.2019
    PaulAlsing  4bbb8d3d-1fb7-4440-99c1-c43b603fca2a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m48 Cool; 5.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  May  6 {  4:45pm, 2019 }: 2^(PDT)  XʇɵΗ
      The sun is losing mass/energy and today's quasars are less powerful.

Paul Alsing replied ( to me ):
> > "Dark Matter" is cold, degenerate matter. "Dark Energy" is entropy.
> 
> Provide evidence for this claim. No one will ever just take your word for it.

I did, the sun is losing mass/energy and today's quasars are less powerful.

Quantum particles can degenerate into a form that is so cold, they can't radiate.

Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.

Compared to the concordance model ( Lambda-CDM ), the Big Rip
now seems more likely, given recent evidence from "the quasar era"
that shows that the (growing) Hubble "Constant" was then LESS (72.5)
than one at the ( cosmologically older ) "Type Ia supernova era" (73.24),
and MORE than the one at the CMBR (67.66), near the start of the Big Bang.

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M
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    SamWormley  492551a8-25bb-4a47-9742-965e4dbb3831@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 8  m97 Cool; 8.3 Hours, GoogleG,  May  6 {  6:22am, 2019 }: 6^(PDT)  XʇDϴ
      "Dark Matter" is cold, degenerate matter. "Dark Energy" is entropy.

"Dark Matter" is cold, degenerate matter. "Dark Energy" is entropy.
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      SamWormley  b08f4ac0-271e-46bd-8926-370abd9bb9c5@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qaq070$7ac$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m231 Top; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 { 11:59am, 2019 }:47^(-4)  XʇȻჩ
      High precision clocks orbiting the planet.

Ben Jacoby:
> As for GR, Einstein's theory of gravity, it explains nothing.

GR is a computer program; garbage in, garbage out.

Without it, our GPS system wouldn't work.

Ben knows nothing about steam engines, much less
high precision clocks orbiting the planet.
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              whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net  qamdc4$194$1@dont-email.me
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  qanfc0$r8t$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  qao9re$c7d$2@gioia.aioe.org
        whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net  qaodcu$hnv$1@dont-email.me
      Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  qapk30$evg$1@gioia.aioe.org
    BenJacoby  qapvb3$3ad$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m231 Top; 2.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 { 11:44am, 2019 }:53^(-4)  Xʇȹʭ
      Ben Jacoby doesn't understand basic thermodynamics.

Ben Jacoby doesn't understand basic thermodynamics;
he's yet to catch up to steam engine science.
He keeps telling me that " entropy is conserved ".

He confuses Shannon entropy ( the least amount of bits needed to convey a message )
with the physics definition:  how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.

Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum;
it's losing 4.3 million tons/second.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse.
Entropy accrues eternally, exponentially. " The Big Bang " is just entropy.

"TON 618" is the most massive black hole known to man;
we see it as it was 10.4 billion years ago.
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          Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe@gmail_  8dccf456-a12f-4946-98fe-558218b885e0@googlegroups.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gja1q6F28gjU1@mid.individual.net
      SamWormley  24ed8d50-84dd-4e32-af8c-4ce533672273@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qapurk$bi$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m231 Top; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 { 11:36am, 2019 }:39^(-4)  Xʇȸd
      Boeing failed to train 737 Max pilots.

Boeing failed to train 737 Max pilots.

" Any old moron could fly it; after all, it's just a 737 "
was Boeing's primary sales pitch.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37392585c5695520997088@news.altopia.com
            .  qap1ms$1dg0$10@gioia.aioe.org
          .  XnsAA4745D6E1C49greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        .  chine.bleu-EDC757.07273506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--0.46pm.Seattle.2019
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-137F65.14155206052019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.24pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m88 Dropped; 22.2 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  6 {  2:16pm, 2019 }:  ^(-7)  XʇɜϠ
      When no one is having sex, you don't need contraceptives.

Siri Cruise replied ( to me ):
> > " Scowling Feminism " is the only contraceptive we need;
> > " I'm happy " they'll snap at you, when not grinding their teeth.
> 
> unintelligible nonsense.

When no one is having sex, you don't need contraceptives.

" Rat Utopia " experiments indicate:
dense communities have too many attackers, too much vice.

First, males stop guarding mothers ( too many attackers );
then mothers stop raising kids ( again, too many attackers ).

2018, South Korea had the lowest fertility rate ( 0.98 births / woman ).
The poorest and most rural parts of Africa have the highest.

The world is shrinking; there's a backlash against globalization,
towards nationalism.  The Cold War is stronger than ever.

Trump won rural America; his supporters are labeled 
" smelly Walmart people " ( Peter Strzok )
and " irredeemable deplorables " (Hillary).
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA46924F6D2AAgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            TheSnitBot  gj8p74FohpjU4@mid.individual.net
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA474346639AAgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        TheSnitBot  gjatatF82siU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qaq72b$16lr$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 5  m161 Cool; 41.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  1:56pm, 2019 }:44^(-5)  Xʇəʤ
      The Wicked Witch of the West.

SergIo replied ( to me ):
> > For Snit, capitalism is not an option.
> 
> sure it is, Snit can go down on the corner and sell/rent it for 15 min

How much does the Wicked Witch of the West, with her splintery, 
slimy broom handle get when she pegs you ?
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              .  03lucet8jq5dthn3rnearo205pqiihkik9@4ax.com
            .  gj9ellFsvalU3@mid.individual.net
          .  uo1vcet6qo9pkhl4gdrrsfmg1kglr4qig2@4ax.com
        .  gj9hi7FtgobU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--1.31pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  97c58789-7a76-4e09-8d99-26c3d0678fc7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m68 Top; 44.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  May  6 {  1:53pm, 2019 }:59^(PDT)  Xʇɘჵ
      Rich white guys are pushing around (relatively) poor black dudes.

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Death+Taxes; everyone's a slave, to some extent.
> > Other than today's wealthier society ( due to globalization/capitalism ),
> > What is the difference between an NFL team and an antebellum plantation ?
> 
> On the plantation the slaves weren't rich!

It's all relative, income inequality; either way,
rich white guys are pushing around (relatively) poor black dudes.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.17am.Seattle.2019
            SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qapjgb$bns$3@gioia.aioe.org
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  pjk0de5u03df0g5jc3k7cs9muef8qab72g@4ax.com
        Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.373a019284ce41199970ac@news.altopia.com
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  lpp0de9h8et3vubsepmcr7jf7nc6l6i3mn@4ax.com
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.373a3e407e45b1aa9970af@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m169 Dropped; 46.3 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET,  May  6 {  1:51pm, 2019 }:53^(-7)  Xʇɘϙ
      Before or after Nads pegged you with her dirty broom ?

Checkmate:
> I might have been willing to give Nads a little taste 
> of my Checkylove (tm) before I found that out ( purple hair ).

Before or after she pegged you with her dirty broom ?
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              .  qanjpk$cth$14@dont-email.me
            .  gj92ctFqi58U1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.15pm.Seattle.2019
        .  qap15u$1dg0$7@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.17am.Seattle.2019
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qapjgb$bns$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--2.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 7  m161 Cool; 6.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  8:22am, 2019 }:50^(-5)  XʇXа
      Near as I can tell, wealthy "men" NEED sugar babies.

SergIo replied ( to me ):
> > Nothing is lovelier than an angry feminist.
> 
> Why is there always an ugly one in a lez couple ?

Sugar Daddy has to work hard to pay for sugar baby.

Near as I can tell, wealthy "men" NEED sugar babies.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qantm4$jqf$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.51pm.Seattle.2019
        SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qapjdo$bns$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--1.01pm.Seattle.2019
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qaq5h7$108o$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--2.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m49 Cool; 35.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  1:30pm, 2019 }:31^(-5)  XʇɕV
      10 million % inflation.

SergIo replied ( to me ):
> > Who got the money that the government printed ?
> 
> Banks, because they gave Gov paper notes.

No, government spending programs ( SSI and wars ) got it.
2019, Venezuela, 10 million % inflation.

> > Inflation is a highly-regressive tax.
> 
> na, Gov sets tax rates,  no one "sets" inflation

Short-term interest rates ( "Federal Funds" ) are government policy;
when they invert the yield curve, a recession is coming, because 
The Fed wants less borrowing/spending, to reduce inflation.

If you tell me what your trusted sources are ( Wikipedia? ), 
I'll provide you links.  If you don't have any trusted sources,
then you're an isolated, insignificant crank.

> don't worry about things outside of your control

In other words, don't worry about anything.
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gfptcepdmvl93el31qm55i74pvuv6anqo9@4ax.com
            TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA46924F6D2AAgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        TheSnitBot  gj8p74FohpjU4@mid.individual.net
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA474346639AAgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    TheSnitBot  gjatatF82siU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    --Robot, 6.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  May  6 {  7: 6am, 2019 }:22  XʇLM
      For Snit, capitalism is not an option.

TheSnitBot:
> Your attack is based on the idea that if someone is poor
> you are better than them and your ideas are better,

2018, I earned/spent 3$ K ( not counting food stamps ), 
mostly for others not me.  How do you compare ?

Basically you're a cross between a male feminist and a male housewife,
and highly dependent on your SSI check.

For you, capitalism is not an option.
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              MsNadegda  qanjpk$cth$14@dont-email.me
            TheSnitBot  gj92ctFqi58U1@mid.individual.net
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  03lucet8jq5dthn3rnearo205pqiihkik9@4ax.com
        TheSnitBot  gj9ellFsvalU3@mid.individual.net
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uo1vcet6qo9pkhl4gdrrsfmg1kglr4qig2@4ax.com
    TheSnitBot  gj9hi7FtgobU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--1.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    --Robot, 18.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  May  5 {  6:39pm, 2019 }:19^(-7)  XʆϾΩ
      Death+Taxes; everyone's a slave, to some extent.

TheSnitBot replied ( to Greg ):
> > There is no better economic system to assist all and sundry 
> > to a higher standard of living than capitalism.
> 
> Unsupported claim ( and one that is contrary to the evidence ). 
> Slaves do NOT benefit from being slaves.

Death+Taxes; everyone's a slave, to some extent.

Other than today's wealthier society ( due to globalization/capitalism ),
What is the difference between an NFL team and an antebellum plantation ?
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              SteveCarroll  fa9c8609-22d9-4f71-a51b-72a522fccd74@googlegroups.com
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qan260$ph0$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qantm4$jqf$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.51pm.Seattle.2019
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  qapjdo$bns$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--1.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m48 Cool; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  8:21am, 2019 }:27^(-5)  XʇXθ
      Inflation is a highly-regressive tax.

SergIo:
> inflation is not a tax, no one there to "take" the tax.
> I regulate you to study personal finance

Who got the money that the government printed ?
Where did the purchasing power come from ?

Inflation is a highly-regressive tax.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.15pm.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gj9khtFu4kaU1@mid.individual.net
          Klaus_Schadenfreude│  rqd0dehemfa978khoqjbumojghi1mdcmtp@4ax.com
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  tti0depk64t9ri0pqlvvlim72j5432bnkm@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  gjb15lF8r57U4@mid.individual.net
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  4sj0de5bleg4ce2jseotvjsh80qpaf02ap@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--0.55pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m89 Dropped; 4 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  May  6 {  8:17am, 2019 }:51^(-4)  XʇWჭ
      Snit's apocalypse-cult doesn't involve Jesus.

Greg told Snit:
> You don't think; you parrot the liberal line.  Your mind is mush.

The only difference between Snit and a Mormon missionary is the religion;
Snit's apocalypse-cult doesn't involve Jesus.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--4.28pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  t90vcepguc1la23ugsjfqvhfut47eftash@4ax.com
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37392585c5695520997088@news.altopia.com
        Kensi  qap1ms$1dg0$10@gioia.aioe.org
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA4745D6E1C49greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-EDC757.07273506052019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--0.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m224 Dropped; 4.8 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  6 {  7:27am, 2019 }:43^(-7)  XʇOψ
      " Scowling Feminism " is the only contraceptive we need.

Siri Cruise wrote something like:
> give women contraceptives, birth rates go down.

" Scowling Feminism " is the only contraceptive we need;
" I'm happy " they'll snap at you, when not grinding their teeth.
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              MsNadegda  qanjpk$cth$14@dont-email.me
            TheSnitBot  gj92ctFqi58U1@mid.individual.net
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  03lucet8jq5dthn3rnearo205pqiihkik9@4ax.com
        TheSnitBot  gj9ellFsvalU3@mid.individual.net
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uo1vcet6qo9pkhl4gdrrsfmg1kglr4qig2@4ax.com
    Kensi  qap106$1dg0$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.52am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 9  m63 Top; 59.9 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  3: 7am, 2019 }: 1^(2)  Xʆუz
      People are tired of globalization, the Cold War is back.

Kensi:
> since 2008, the only boats that have risen
> have been the one-percenters'.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's "house" ( a tent ),
nor his "wife" ( a Tenga Flip Zero ), 
nor his "ManServant" ( angry cops )
nor his "MaidServant" ( on YouTube )
nor his "Ox" ( a dead cell phone ).

> > There is no better economic system than capitalism.
> 
> [citation needed]

It works for him ( and me ), not you.

> > it's WAY better than socialism/communism/Marxism and all
> > the other productivity-killing isms.
> 
> ... says the subscriber to the inarguably worst "ism" 
> in all of history: fascism.

People are tired of globalization, the Cold War is back.
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  m9fuce1ecdopelqco49odf8k5i66g4ttr1@4ax.com
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gfptcepdmvl93el31qm55i74pvuv6anqo9@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA46924F6D2AAgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      MsNadegda  qaniq3$cth$11@dont-email.me
    Kensi  qap0ke$1dg0$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.32am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 10  m63 Top; 1.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  3:  am, 2019 }:46^(2)  Xʆტk
      Bitching isn't "work".

Kensi replied ( to Ms Nadegda ):
> > A lot of people are not paid for their work.
> 
> Especially women.

Bitching isn't "work".
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              TheSnitBot  gj8f6fFmdn1U4@mid.individual.net
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA469112A3B66greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          MsNadegda  qanjpk$cth$14@dont-email.me
        TheSnitBot  gj92ctFqi58U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.15pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qap15u$1dg0$7@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--4.17am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 13  m63 Top; 56.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  3:10am, 2019 }: 6^(2)  Xʆუϴ
      Nothing is lovelier than an angry feminist.

Kensi:
> Capitalism is all about coveting.

I know, right ? 
Republicans never stop talking about income inequality.

Or is it the Democrats ?!  I can't remember.

Nothing is lovelier than an angry feminist.
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              TheSnitBot  gj71plFctarU1@mid.individual.net
            Kensi  qamehj$4c8$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.23pm.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gj9dtrFsq30U3@mid.individual.net
      Klaus_Schadenfreude│  jk0vcellk0h74934ht7amb8615v9ulc4g4@4ax.com
    Kensi  qap008$1dg0$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--3.59am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m50 Top; 10 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  2:49am, 2019 }:59^(2)  Xʆრɷ
      Even the lowliest "inmates" have some "choices".

Kensi:
> Please post evidence of Norway's gulags

Even the lowliest "inmates" have some "choices".

Price of a pint of beer in a pub/bar, in $ USD:
        
  10.30   Oslo, Norway *1
  11      Iceland 
   7.10   Helsinki, Finland
   7      Seattle *2
   5.50   Vancouver, Canada
   1.60   Ukraine
   1.20   Prague

*1:   scmp.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/2148408/where-does-hong-kong-rank-beer-index-find-out-price-pint-around
*2:   before the 10% tax, 20% tip
      katu.com/news/local/portland-tops-seattle-as-best-beer-city-in-usa-survey-says
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    Kensi  qaovln$1dg0$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--2.59am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m49 Top; 3.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  6 {  2:44am, 2019 }:22^(2)  Xʆჟʎ
      The end of life as we knew it.

Kensi:
> Banana's Black Sigatoka disease boosted by climate change

A banana costs 35 cents; minimum wage is 15$ / hour;
so the poorest worker must work 1.4 minutes to earn a banana.

Truly, this is the end of life as we knew it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qamtav$q35$1@dont-email.me
          .  fa9c8609-22d9-4f71-a51b-72a522fccd74@googlegroups.com
        .  qan260$ph0$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qantm4$jqf$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m67 Cool; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  5 {  5: 4pm, 2019 }:19^(-6)  XʆϠБ
      Inflation is a tax.

Inflation is a tax; no government is going to give up 
its right to tax, issue bonds, print currency etc.

If I held gold, instead of dollars, I'd be MUCH richer today; 
however, the volatility would be extreme.

Then there's regulations...
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  mn0tcetmknflgpcqat1fm3ap12f9blmrgb@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
          TheSnitBot  gj71plFctarU1@mid.individual.net
        Kensi  qamehj$4c8$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.23pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  gj9in2Fth31U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.42pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m76 Top; 23.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May  5 {  6:58pm, 2019 }:58  XʆБи
      The NFL has often been likened to a plantation.

Scott Doty replied ( to me ):
> A market without regulation would be like a hockey game 
> without referees: It wouldn't be a _fair_ market for long.
> 
> If you want to live in a libertarian utopia, 
> may I suggest moving to Somolia ?

In Somolia, piracy is the nascent government.

"taxes+regulations" is a euphemism for "slavery".
The NFL has often been likened to a plantation.

Once something has dominated the market, as the government has,
it enslaves it.  You work for them, right ?!
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              TheSnitBot  gj4gbtFqjiiU1@mid.individual.net
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA466DD4F330Dgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          TheSnitBot  gj8f6fFmdn1U4@mid.individual.net
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA469112A3B66greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      MsNadegda  qanjpk$cth$14@dont-email.me
    TheSnitBot  gj92ctFqi58U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    --Robot, 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  May  5 {  2:20pm, 2019 }:28^(-7)  Xʆξʔ
      I'm the poorest man here.

Poverty is not a " moral failing ", Snit;
I'm the poorest man here.

3 thousand years ago, a wise man said:

  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's  House, 
  thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's  Wife, 
                               nor his  ManServant, 
                               nor his  MaidServant, 
                               nor his  Ox, 
                               nor his  Ass, 
  nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.  
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          MsNadegda  qankau$cth$15@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--4.28pm.Seattle.2019
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  t90vcepguc1la23ugsjfqvhfut47eftash@4ax.com
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37392585c5695520997088@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--7.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m47 Dropped; 25.4 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET,  May  5 {  5:54pm, 2019 }: 1^(-7)  XʆϷ1
      If you're a 13-year-old illiterate, wild orphan.

Checkmate:
> I've never understood why people who live in 
> the shittiest part of the world, with not enough food or water,
> and rampant disease, keep bringing so many sprogs into it.

If you're a 13-year-old illiterate, wild orphan,
and you doubt you'll see 20, you might become a parent too.
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        MsNadegda  qankau$cth$15@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--4.28pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  t90vcepguc1la23ugsjfqvhfut47eftash@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m78 Dropped; 40.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  May  5 {  5:38pm, 2019 }:42^(-4)  Xʆϴʢ
      2018, South Korea had the lowest fertility rate ( 0.98 births / woman ).

Greg replied ( to me ):
> > Macau, China, has the lowest fertility rate ( births / woman );
> > the poorest and most rural parts of Africa have the highest.
> 
> That's like comparing apples and oranges.  Everybody knows
> how in China the government has placed limits on reproduction 

Macau has its own currency ( Macanese pataca ) 
and there is no limit on how many kids a woman can have.

Macau has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world,
has a very high Human Development Index,
and the fourth-highest life expectancy in the world.

2018, South Korea had the lowest fertility rate ( 0.98 births / woman ).

> in rural Africa, they breed out of control

Because they're rural, like America's " smelly Walmart people "
( Peter Strzok ) and " irredeemable deplorables " (Hillary).
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    MsNadegda  qankau$cth$15@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--4.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m45 Cool; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  5 {  2:24pm, 2019 }:46  Xʆοk
      Smelly Walmart people.

Ms Nadegda:
> remove the orange shit from office before he starts World War III.

There's a backlash against globalization, towards nationalism.
The Cold War is stronger than ever.

Trump won rural America.  " Rat Utopia " experiments indicate:
dense communities have too many attackers, too much vice.

First, males stop guarding mothers ( too many attackers );
then mothers stop raising kids ( again, too many attackers ).

Macau, China, has the lowest fertility rate ( births / woman );
the poorest and most rural parts of Africa have the highest.

Trump supporters are labeled " smelly Walmart people " ( Peter Strzok )
and " irredeemable deplorables " (Hillary).
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  c94vce986681cdel9iehh7ug03f1r0k25u@4ax.com
            Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-988BAF.13135605052019@reader.eternal-september.org
          TheSnitBot  gj8vn3Fpvc0U1@mid.individual.net
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  7fiuce1jodvh6p5crro25n2kjljmho7jhp@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  gj90jpFq48iU1@mid.individual.net
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  lnguceda7i08aqvrn88j4t564uaiseldd4@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--4.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m73 Cool; 2.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  May  5 {  1:10pm, 2019 }:38^(-7)  XʆβФ
      Nothing is more beautiful than an angry feminist ( ha ha ).

Feminist Snit wrote:
> > Klaus is so filled with anger, I have no interest in his comments.

Nothing is more beautiful than an angry feminist ( ha ha ).
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              TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
            Klaus_Schadenfreude│  s34uce1lgnp2or2fj1set3nqpcjfuagkuo@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--11.42am.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gj8s4iFp7a6U2@mid.individual.net
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  dogucelsb9ra4j7541677rna4ap6png4pi@4ax.com
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-44449D.14424505052019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--4.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m206 Dropped; 55.9 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  5 {  2:42pm, 2019 }:53^(-7)  Xʆςr
      Once someone has dominated the market, as the government has.

Siri_Cruise:
> free markets allow unfettered slavery, the market is amoral.

"unfettered slavery" is taxes+regulations.

Once someone has dominated the market, as the government has,
they're free to shut down the markets.
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              TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
            Klaus_Schadenfreude│  s34uce1lgnp2or2fj1set3nqpcjfuagkuo@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--11.42am.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gj8s4iFp7a6U2@mid.individual.net
      Klaus_Schadenfreude│  jqgucetkfhkmchf43fl9vkbmdik6gkmjgs@4ax.com
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-723195.14394305052019@reader.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--3.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m206 Dropped; 58.9 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  5 {  2:39pm, 2019 }:51^(-7)  Xʆρϗ
      Hugo Chavez' "eat the rich" mantra.

Siri_Cruise wrote something like:
> if a Venezuelan dictator became the sole source of business loans 
> and investment, and nothing else changed, Venezuela would still be 
> as free and entrepreneurial as it today, with the wholesale killing
> of its own citizens, refugees, and 10 million % inflation in 2019.

Right, that's Capitalism ( ha ha ).

Hugo Chavez' "eat the rich" mantra started it.

If only we could bring his plan here, to the United States;
then we'd have magnificent tents, and plenty of food stamps.
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    Kensi  qame8l$38h$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--3.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m48 Top; 8.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  5 {  3:34am, 2019 }:59^(-4)  Xʆɩй
      I just talked to the children.

Kensi: 
> vulnerable children will bear the brunt of these disasters

I just talked to the children, 
they want you to stop working the streets
for your "apocalypse cult" pimp.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gj71plFctarU1@mid.individual.net
          Klaus_Schadenfreude│  m9fuce1ecdopelqco49odf8k5i66g4ttr1@4ax.com
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gfptcepdmvl93el31qm55i74pvuv6anqo9@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  s34uce1lgnp2or2fj1set3nqpcjfuagkuo@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 9  m68 Cool; 2.8 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  May  5 {  9:36am, 2019 }: 6^(-7)  Xʆʦ6
      Snit must lie.

Klaus Schadenfreude told Snit:
> you don't know what capitalism is.

He knows.  Being guilty, he must lie.
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              TheSnitBot  gj5uq9F5po5U1@mid.individual.net
            Klaus_Schadenfreude│  mn0tcetmknflgpcqat1fm3ap12f9blmrgb@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qamtav$q35$1@dont-email.me
      SteveCarroll  fa9c8609-22d9-4f71-a51b-72a522fccd74@googlegroups.com
    AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qan260$ph0$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m239 Mad; 3.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  5 {  9:14am, 2019 }:55^(-6)  Xʆʢʯ
      Will there be death, or prison, for drug dealers ?

AnonLinuxUser:
> under the Gold Standard, few taxes will be required.

What about regulations ?

Will there be death, or prison, for drug dealers ?
What's the fine for not sorting your trash properly ?

First, Democrats denounce " Big Oil ", " think of the children ";
then they tax+regulate the poor, leaving them with nothing but 
food stamps and a tent, just like our forefathers envisioned.

They're FAKE GREEN, pretending.
Sustainable Consumption is greener then manic windmills; 
but it'll never happen because they call it "depression".

Nothing would be greener than lower, more sustainable wages, and
higher interest rates, to promote savings and discourage borrowing/spending.
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              Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.227DE9AB0000E44070000E1632EF@news.giganews.com
            TheSnitBot  gj5uq9F5po5U1@mid.individual.net
          Klaus_Schadenfreude│  mn0tcetmknflgpcqat1fm3ap12f9blmrgb@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  gj71plFctarU1@mid.individual.net
    Kensi  qamehj$4c8$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--2.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 6  m48 Top; 8.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  5 {  3:39am, 2019 }:48^(2)  Xʆɪϓ
      "merely taxed" ?  No, slaves were "regulated" too.

TheSnitBot replied ( to me ):
> > > Slavery is taxes+regulations.
> > 
> > Thinking slaves were merely taxed has to be 
> > the most idiotic thing I have seen you suggest.

"merely taxed" ?  No, they were "regulated" too,
using guns, as is done today, thanks to Democrats.

To the extent that they were kept from the free market,
they were enslaved.
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      Pentcho_Valev│pvalev@yahoo_com  e3b3ce7a-aef8-4d1f-87cd-3fef3814a01e@googlegroups.com
    whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net  qamdc4$194$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--0.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m6 Cool; 7.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  5 {  3:19am, 2019 }:44^(-5)  Xʆɧɨ
      Entropy accrues eternally, exponentially.

Mr. whodat:
> Think of the possibilities if we actually lived in an infinite universe.
> Do we ?  That's the question.

" The Big Bang " is just entropy.
Entropy accrues eternally, exponentially.
Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse.
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              Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  d7b044c2-4ed3-bd51-4da2-1bce5f26065f@PointedEars.de
            Enes_Richard│pies_na_teorie@vp_  60049fd4-9001-4406-aa8a-ed31ca539649@googlegroups.com
          Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  bf10a03a-8f0e-76a5-afc1-3637d42981c7@PointedEars.de
        Enes_Richard│pies_na_teorie@vp_  9d54b64a-79d5-45d3-816e-b610882efb18@googlegroups.com
      Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  b60548e7-b0ba-ca76-6ff7-806288f54890@PointedEars.de
    Enes_Richard│pies_na_teorie@vp_  3de35192-b54d-445b-84a3-36c73a6ba03f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--11.58am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m41 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 5.173.48.1,  May  5 { 10: 1am, 2019 }:32^(PDT)  Xʆʪɜ
      "Dark Matter" is cold, degenerate matter. "Dark Energy" is entropy.

"Dark Matter" is cold, degenerate matter. "Dark Energy" is entropy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gj71plFctarU1@mid.individual.net
          Klaus_Schadenfreude│  m9fuce1ecdopelqco49odf8k5i66g4ttr1@4ax.com
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gfptcepdmvl93el31qm55i74pvuv6anqo9@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  gj8f6dFmdn1U2@mid.individual.net
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  s34uce1lgnp2or2fj1set3nqpcjfuagkuo@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.5--11.42am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m28 Cool; 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  May  5 {  9:36am, 2019 }: 6^(-7)  Xʆʦ6
      Their guns tax+regulate us, enslave us.

TheSnitBot:
> > Capitalism is about exploitation of others. 
> > The extreme of that is slavery. 

A free market is just that: free.

Democrats say they're working for us, the poor;
but their guns tax+regulate us, enslave us.
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          MsNadegda  qaj7bh$cth$7@dont-email.me
        Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.227DE9AB0000E44070000E1632EF@news.giganews.com
      TheSnitBot  gj5uq9F5po5U1@mid.individual.net
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  mn0tcetmknflgpcqat1fm3ap12f9blmrgb@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m59 Cool; 0 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  May  4 {  7:42pm, 2019 }:57^(-7)  XʆRv
      Slavery is taxes+regulations.

TheSnitBot:
> > slavery is the extreme of "pure" capitalism

Slavery is taxes+regulations.

When free, the market determines your worth.

When you know you're worthless, 
you must lie continually, like Snit.
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          MsNadegda  qaj7bh$cth$7@dont-email.me
        Beedle│Beedle@dont-email_me  0001HW.227DE9AB0000E44070000E1632EF@news.giganews.com
      TheSnitBot  gj5uq9F5po5U1@mid.individual.net
    MsNadegda  qaknsr$cth$8@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.4--0.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m40 Cool; 23 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  May  4 {   : 7pm, 2019 }: 8  XʅхȺ
      Trying to give everyone "free" shit.

Ms Nadegda mentioned:
> banksters to the Nazis

2008, not one U.S. bank wanted / needed bailout money;
the money was repaid ASAP, with interest.

Government-Chartered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, on the other hand,
went bankrupt; the federal government took over, injected 200$ billion,
and slowly reduced their mortgage backed securities portfolios.

This is what happens when politicians get involved,
trying to give everyone "free" shit.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  5y6yE.1043143$VB3.686818@fx45.iad
            MrChrisV  ns2jcetl7r9ii1g6eci1h04kh8uihjiq9v@4ax.com
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  TFjyE.204665$2P1.32921@fx10.iad
        Kensi  qadoh1$qg5$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--8.39pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  qaj12v$1pqt$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--9.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m41 Top; 26.9 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  3 {  8:31pm, 2019 }:36^(2)  Xʅʛɠ
      MGTOW.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > Not everyone is happy to be enslaved by Kensi-types;
> 
> My husband is, some nights.

Hence MGTOW.
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              HerbertGlazier  8deb1a4b-6ace-47c6-ac13-694dcaea4295@googlegroups.com
            MitchellRaemsch  95968867-8f8e-44e0-ac69-c5311691c866@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  fc0ae2d9-5c1a-45f8-b20e-04bcec6785c8@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  qada8i$11bn$1@gioia.aioe.org
      HerbertGlazier  c81602d5-f28e-4f8b-9962-dfa9661c5100@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qah757$1jo2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--0.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m251 Top; 7.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May  3 {  4: 3am, 2019 }: 3^(-4)  XʄწΘ
      The " burning bush " was a prostitute telling Moses what to do.

The " burning bush " was a prostitute telling Moses what to do.
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          HerbertGlazier  e12096d5-3902-4bb6-b25e-b69198013c11@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  qad617$fp0$3@gioia.aioe.org
      HerbertGlazier  ba10a8af-3bc1-4d1b-b1b7-6ba60d6173d8@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  qah6p3$1hrk$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--0.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 5  m251 Top; 7.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  May  3 {  3:56am, 2019 }:34^(-4)  Xʄძʚ
      A secret handshake ?

Bert:
> > my ears will soon work better and 
> > I can go back to making M&M a money power.
> > 
> > Will use my unlimited credit and a ton of cash.
> > I call it my last big splash.  Wish me luck.
> > If you want to come to this hall give me an email. 

Does this involve a secret handshake or something ?

I shouldn't have to fly to California to find out 
how M&M could make me " 3,000$ a week or more ".
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              HughHuntzinger  f62d4f38-2aff-475f-905d-22435e9e4eb7@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  35074c2a-81ee-4d9f-8090-e3463f5322b0@googlegroups.com
          HughHuntzinger  4b983a3b-23bb-457a-9844-5b84d52a1bbd@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  a29d37ef-c617-4cb9-8172-72f0564e27ca@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  b281e4e7-e9e7-42f5-bc2f-1bdc3beb8138@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  efb3eb54-440f-4e66-85ad-1c98ef69cd94@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.2--7.46am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m248 Mad; 44.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  May  2 {  6: 2am, 2019 }: 1^(PDT)  Xʄʂɹ
      Cuba is our future.

With or without Trump's wall, the planet is shrinking;
there's no stopping it.

Sure, taxing+regulating creates jobs for bureaucrats; but no one
enjoys being a slave to " the state " ( self-proclaimed "superiors" ).

Every tax+regulate lefty I see makes me long for poverty;
Cuba is our future.

Borrowing is one step away from theft -- I'm not into it;
nor do I want to lend to randoms.  I only trust me.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.37327194c05fc1bc996fdd@news.altopia.com
            jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net  qaamc1$dl8$1@dont-email.me
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  5y6yE.1043143$VB3.686818@fx45.iad
        MrChrisV  ns2jcetl7r9ii1g6eci1h04kh8uihjiq9v@4ax.com
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  TFjyE.204665$2P1.32921@fx10.iad
    Kensi  qadoh1$qg5$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--8.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m35 Top; 12 Secs, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  May  1 {  8:34pm, 2019 }:52^(2)  XʄZв
      We're humans, not cows.

Not everyone is happy to be enslaved by Kensi-types;
we're humans, not cows.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--10.23am.Seattle.2019
            Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  v1rjcet47pn2a20fi940i43g3a335k80d0@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  giu8sfFfo9hU3@mid.individual.net
        Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  krrjce9nddum6umo2ri6gb17rqih3o8ktc@4ax.com
      TheSnitBot  giu9e3Ffu8uU1@mid.individual.net
    Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  cmtjceh6psa5stcs50v9f31na9461rpbib@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--0.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m10 Cool; 43 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  May  1 {   :44pm, 2019 }:26^(-7)  Xʃыʒ
      Socialism must be balanced with Capitalism for it to work.

Mattb:
> Venezuala ran out of money to steal and borrow.  
> Socialism must be balanced with Capitalism for it to work.

People are dumb; they have to re-learn this lesson over-and-over again.
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qaa5ld$a2a$1@dont-email.me
            TheSnitBot  girokjFtjrkU3@mid.individual.net
          Larry_Washington_III│  MPG.3732b27ecc09749b989692@nntp.aioe.org
        TheSnitBot  gis8anF2dh6U1@mid.individual.net
      Little_Mac│littlemac@linuxmail_  qac3pt$mhn$1@dont-email.me
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  M4jyE.150256$7y4.77619@fx25.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--10.23am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m97 Cool; 1.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  May  1 {  8:39am, 2019 }:24  XʃТε
      Guilt makes Snit lie.

RatchetJaw:
> When Snit mixes his pills with alcohol, he really goes off his rocker.

It's guilt that's tormenting him, not pills.

Guilt makes him lie.

Guilt makes him RoboSpam newsgroups, so no one can Google them.
■
              SteveCarroll  df19d937-e769-4a22-ab18-301b17f7b36d@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  4762646c-d69f-4792-b16c-482e39fc2faa@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  db7d5e8d-89b8-4c7a-8812-67f4cbaaebe6@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  a97e4626-584d-47bf-867c-10a1a3304746@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  dc2fd4bc-d296-4798-a89b-2d9a8d7526f1@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  68f73ffd-d960-4be3-b483-e7da1597a227@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--10.13am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m28 Top; 6 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.71,  May  1 {  3:48am, 2019 }: 2^(PDT)  Xʃϓ2
      Hugh Huntzinger is one of those rich Democrats who steps on the poor.

Hugh Huntzinger is one of those rich Democrats who steps on the poor.

He thinks taxing+regulating " Big Oil " will somehow leave the poor
better off ( with a nicer tent, and more food stamps ?! ).

If you think ObamaCare helps the poor, you have no fucking clue.

Yesterday, a guy paid rent using some quarters and 1$ bills;
it was all he had; he lost his job twice, recently.

If it wasn't for Compass Housing ( a charity ) and me,
he'd be on the streets.

In 2018, there were 4 months when he didn't have healthcare
because he didn't qualify for Washington state's Apple Care.

Had he bought the healthcare, it would've cost him 2,600$,
with no real benefit to him; the tax penalty for not having it: 1,700$.
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    Kensi  qab6uu$1lqe$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.30--10.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m31 Top; 1.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 30 {  9:22pm, 2019 }:50^(2)  Xʃʣа
      Once the rich are dead.

Kensi:
> Beto 2020's climate change plans

The best way to lower America's GDP ( for a greener planet )
would be to tax+regulate it more ( as is happening );
once the rich are dead, we'll be as green as North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.30--6.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Test
      Alt_Test.
■
              HughHuntzinger  a50c018d-658d-4666-a28c-890c50ab4b84@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  qa7d2f$7ja$1@dont-email.me
          HughHuntzinger  f836203f-de43-422c-b4e4-dfff750912d3@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  67bed4f8-b0dc-4835-9780-5087e1f2b848@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  522064ad-7319-4e2e-9d69-86d4434d9fa0@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  df19d937-e769-4a22-ab18-301b17f7b36d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.30--8.23am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m225 Mad; 10.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr 30 {  7:18am, 2019 }:55^(PDT)  XʃNt
      We'll be as green as North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba.

Steve Carroll replied ( to Hugh Huntzinger ):
> > Social-Security+Medicare are independently funded, sustainable.  
> 
> Bull.  the ratio of workers to beneficiaries is almost  2.6

No problem, we'll tax " the rich "; they can afford anything ( ha ha ).
Once the rich are dead, we'll be as green as North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba.

> > Cut off Big Oil .... Problem solved.

Every single person in America is " Big Oil ".
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            AndrzejMatuch  TVhxE.575394$Tr1.273960@fx44.iad
          MrChrisV  nqpdce1035sgg6apjs81rtijl8q3fn6hd0@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  257cd305-ec74-4f8c-bbe9-474071aaa9b9@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  35e5f2e4-841f-42de-9c0e-a27541ed939d@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  a50c018d-658d-4666-a28c-890c50ab4b84@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.29--0.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m23 Top; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Apr 29 {  9:58am, 2019 }:10^(PDT)  Xʂʩϸ
      Craving pleasure, material goods.

Hugh Huntzinger:
> Trump's strategy has been little more than a " borrow and spend ", 
> which has ballooned the debt even more so at a point in the economic 
> cycle when classical Keysian economics says to do literally the opposite. 

" Borrow+Spend " has been the policy of every president;
it's the American way. 

Nothing would be greener than lower, more sustainable wages, and
higher interest rates, to promote savings and discourage borrowing/spending.

> We're still waiting for wage growth that does more than
> just maintain pace with inflation.  

" The love of money is the root of all evil " -- 1 Timothy 6:10.

" Whoever loves money never has enough; 
  whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income.
  This too is meaningless. " -- Ecclesiastes 5:10

Quoting PBS' " Basics of Buddhism ":

  In Buddhism, desire and ignorance lie at the root of suffering.

  By desire, Buddhists refer to craving pleasure, material goods,
  and immortality, all of which are wants that can never be satisfied.

  As a result, desiring them can only bring suffering.
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              .  587be332-e975-464c-9dc9-3360cb4bd653@googlegroups.com
            .  u1ixE.646603$Y49.572743@fx46.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--7.08am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  qa5spu$16t2$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--9.57pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  cj1ecep8ap8t1bngph6d5clbrdra7ul1gp@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.29--8.00am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m167 Dropped; 37.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Apr 29 {  7:16am, 2019 }:41^(-4)  XʂʎЧ
      Greg's underlings.

Greg:
> Doesn't the word *underling* mean being fucked ? 

For you, yes; otherwise no.
■
              SteveCarroll  ccf83f8b-b89d-4e56-a859-aca66788f660@googlegroups.com
            Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  o6ixE.646604$Y49.586124@fx46.iad
          SteveCarroll  7579e895-4559-49cc-863b-3904eba6832b@googlegroups.com
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  uNBxE.398353$oy5.308651@fx06.iad
      TheSnitBot  gio93fF6dbaU5@mid.individual.net
    SteveCarroll  d249eb90-e597-4150-947d-cde521e4ea05@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.29--6.54am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m206 Mad; 16.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr 29 {  6:29am, 2019 }:15^(PDT)  Xʂʆщ
      Imagine the extreme guilt TheSnitBot must feel.

Imagine the guilt TheSnitBot must feel to be lying like he does;
he RoboSpams this group in order to cover up his lies,
so nobody can Google him.
■
          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CABB68E.5B57@ix.netcom.com
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gind3sFeakU1@mid.individual.net
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CC69AB0.5A7D@ix.netcom.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  ginks2F217aU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.29--5.51am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m17 Cool; 5.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Apr 28 { 11:45pm, 2019 }:22^(10)  Xʂȹγ
      General Relativity is a computer program; garbage in, garbage out.

Sylvia Else wrote:
> A black hole is a prediction from general relativity.

General Relativity is a computer program; garbage in, garbage out.

Einstein never accepted the GIVENS required to produce a black hole;
no such GIVENS are essential to General Relativity.

" The Big Bang " is just entropy.

Entropy accrues eternally, exponentially.

Our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse.
■
              .  d7082ad8-64db-44e0-b7b6-0b642e90a4a1@googlegroups.com
            .  q9vpnq$g43$5@dont-email.me
          .  587be332-e975-464c-9dc9-3360cb4bd653@googlegroups.com
        .  u1ixE.646603$Y49.572743@fx46.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--7.08am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  qa5spu$16t2$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--9.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m223 Top; 54.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 28 {  8:58pm, 2019 }:52^(-4)  Xʂdв
      Fucking your underlings.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > Marx literally fucked his underlings.
> 
> Gosh so did Bill Clinton!

When it comes to fucking your underlings,
John F. Kennedy was worse than Bill Clinton
but better than Karl Marx.
■
    Kensi  qa5r1e$vl2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--9.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m26 Top; 1.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 28 {  8:28pm, 2019 }:45^(2)  XʂYЫ
      What's your solution ?

Kensi:
> Climate change poses a clear financial risk to Australia

What's your solution ?

Google:  How much have oceans warmed, Celsius

No numbers pop up but, if you dig deep enough, 
searching for the word "Celsius", you'll see:

  The 2015 analysis showed that the modern buoys now 
  used to measure ocean temperatures tend to report 
  slightly cooler temperatures than older ship-based 
  systems, even when measuring the same part of the 
  ocean at the same time. 

  As buoy measurements have replaced ship measurements, 
  this had hidden some of the real-world warming.    

  After correcting for this " cold bias ",
  researchers with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric 
  Administration concluded in the journal Science that 
  the oceans have actually warmed 0.12 degrees Celsius/decade

  since 2000,  nearly twice as fast as earlier estimates of 
  0.07 degrees Celsius per decade.  
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              HerbertGlazier  17205b20-6f38-4e70-9c57-d14800ddc47d@googlegroups.com
            MrAA  3682b6d9-e198-4343-9308-96bb05094b66@googlegroups.com
          SamWormley  6b7a7580-c7ca-4d0a-bba5-7244c477f0a3@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  138af8cc-e4ad-41a1-947a-5e93927faf6f@googlegroups.com
      SamWormley  1fc66855-765f-45b9-8799-d5afdb9f61d6@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  cab81580-e0d7-4bdd-b27f-ea12c70dce73@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--2.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 2  m73 Top; 8.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Apr 28 {  2: 2pm, 2019 }:52^(PDT)  Xʁიʬ
      " The Big Bang " is just entropy.

MrAA:
> If the Big Bang was not an explosion, 
> that takes all the Bang out of it!
> 
> A violent expansion with out a center or a shell
> is something we never experience in our everyday world.  
> It would seem not surprising that
> we would have no word to describe such a thing!

" The Big Bang " is just entropy.

Entropy accrues eternally, exponentially;
our Universe is going from infinitely  hot/dense
to infinitely  cold/sparse.
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              SteveCarroll  d7082ad8-64db-44e0-b7b6-0b642e90a4a1@googlegroups.com
            AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  q9vpnq$g43$5@dont-email.me
          SteveCarroll  587be332-e975-464c-9dc9-3360cb4bd653@googlegroups.com
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  u1ixE.646603$Y49.572743@fx46.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--7.08am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  0c45f563-7b4b-4cb2-a85c-32a0a2efd302@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--11.35am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m193 Mad; 2.9 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr 28 {  8:24am, 2019 }:12^(PDT)  XʁРC
      Democrats are FAKE GREEN, pretending.

Steve Carroll replied ( to me ):
> > Democrats are doing everything in their power to make sure that
> > we can't afford a doctor or a wife.
> 
> I thought you were MGTOW?

Yes, I'm MGTOW; and, yes, I don't spend money on healthcare.

I'm not complaining, quite the opposite, but neither 
Trump nor Biden have any solutions to this "problem".

Rednecks aren't evil racists; family first, nation first.
Democrats are the worst, in my opinion, because there're 
more hypocritical than Karl Marx himself.

First, they denounce " Big Oil ", " think of the children ";
then they tax+regulate the poor, leaving them with nothing but 
food stamps and a tent, just like our forefathers envisioned.

They're FAKE GREEN, pretending.
Sustainable Consumption is greener then manic windmills; 
but it'll never happen because they call it "depression".

Nothing would be greener than lower, more sustainable wages, and
higher interest rates, to promote savings and discourage borrowing/spending.
■
              SteveCarroll  7a1cfac0-8c53-4e3d-8dd5-aa27bc585151@googlegroups.com
            TheSnitBot  gigs47Fhlu0U5@mid.individual.net
          SteveCarroll  d7082ad8-64db-44e0-b7b6-0b642e90a4a1@googlegroups.com
        AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  q9vpnq$g43$5@dont-email.me
      SteveCarroll  587be332-e975-464c-9dc9-3360cb4bd653@googlegroups.com
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  u1ixE.646603$Y49.572743@fx46.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--7.08am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m85 Cool; 9.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr 28 {  6:38am, 2019 }:34  XʁϾʚ
      Marx literally fucked his underlings.

So far, the 2020 presidential race is all strawmen;
rednecks are portrayed as cross-burning white supremacists.

Democrats are doing everything in their power to make sure that
we can't afford a doctor or a wife.

Like Karl Marx himself, they say one thing and then do the opposite;
Marx literally fucked his underlings.
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            Kensi  q9r8sh$ku3$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.24--9.05pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q9t7vu$138n$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA3ED69D0BB97greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    Kensi  qa37ge$4gd$8@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--6.34am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m144 Top; 9.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 27 {  8:43pm, 2019 }: 3^(2)  Xʁʝȵ
      Keep telling us that you're a genius, and we're idiots.

Kensi:
> I have a Ph.D. in physics, you imbecile !

Keep telling us that you're a genius, and we're idiots;
that'll win us over.

Joining the latest apocalypse cult doesn't make you look very smart.

First, the Democrats denounce " Big Oil ", " think of the children ";
then they tax+regulate the poor, leaving them with nothing but 
food stamps and a tent, just like our forefathers envisioned.

Stronger unions will not solve the problem of a shrinking planet,
increasing competition, and unaffordable doctors/wives.

Most people are FAKE GREEN, pretending.
Sustainable Consumption is greener then manic windmills; 
but it'll never happen because we call it "depression".

Nothing would be greener than lower, more sustainable wages, and
higher interest rates, to promote savings and discourage borrowing/spending.
■
      HerbertGlazier  de58ab40-7972-42ca-bd14-8ba07518da1b@googlegroups.com
    SamWormley  7a6018da-5585-4e9e-bf1b-ead5ff7a2a2e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.27--6.34pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m67 Cool; 24.2 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr 27 {  5:35pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT)  Xʁɽჳ
      0.07 degrees Celsius per decade.

Sam Wormley:
> Warmer Oceans is the Big Scare.

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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q9ui6b$joh$1@dont-email.me
            ScottDoty  gig1d7Fbnp5U1@mid.individual.net
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q9ve0j$hm$3@dont-email.me
        ScottDoty  giihsjFrtigU4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.27--8.40am.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  gik7ssF9n1bU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.27--5.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m81 Top; 27.6 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr 27 {  4:45pm, 2019 }:33  Xʁɵξ
      The intent of the SpamBot.

Scott Doty:
> You assholes are trying to google-seed me.
> groups.google.com/forum/#!search/Scott$20Doty

No one but an extreme USENET dweeb, one in a thousand,
would ever dream of doing such a search.

I didn't know that such a search was even possible; 
I thought I'd have to specify a newsgroup.

The search is useless anyways, because of the SpamBot;
in fact, that's the intent of the SpamBot, most likely.

> You assholes want to chill my speech.  You can't handle it.
> You'd like to make things "difficult" for me IRL.

I welcome your posts, I read every single one;
I have no desire to hide your ( ill-informed ) opinions.

Jesus was neither a bigot, nor a warmonger.
Not every redneck Christian is a cross-burning, white supremacist.

> I can do that, too.
> But I won't, because I'm not an asshole like you are.

Do it, I'd like to see you try.
My lifelong fan base consists of zero people, ± zero.
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              AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  q9vpnq$g43$5@dont-email.me
            SteveCarroll  587be332-e975-464c-9dc9-3360cb4bd653@googlegroups.com
          AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qa03v7$8l6$4@dont-email.me
        RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  qa094f$uq9$1@dont-email.me
      AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  qa0e5f$gsn$3@dont-email.me
    SteveCarroll  1e829872-cbe1-4979-a5c0-0613a6057512@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.27--11.52am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m179 Mad; 1.9 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr 27 {  8:26am, 2019 }: 6^(PDT)  XʁYɾ
      Food Stamps and a Tent.

Steve Carroll mentioned:
> Biden's kick off video, Youtube.COM/watch?v=eVaJzhAjjrY

He's slandering rednecks, calling them Nazis, white supremacists.

What does that have to do with the fact that 
no one can afford a semi-decent doctor, or a wife ?

First, the Democrats denounce " Big Oil ", " think of the children ";
then they tax+regulate the poor, leaving them with nothing but 
food stamps and a tent, just like our forefathers envisioned.

Stronger unions will not solve the problem of a shrinking planet,
increasing competition, and unaffordable doctors/wives.

Most people are FAKE GREEN, pretending.
Sustainable Consumption is greener then manic windmills; 
but it'll never happen because we call it "depression".

Nothing would be greener than lower, more sustainable wages, and
higher interest rates, to promote savings and discourage borrowing/spending.
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      Lost in the cosmos of your mind.

In "Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy", Beedle wrote:
> Only two or three common sense people in the whole dam group.

Let me guess... You, TheSnitBot, ChisV, Scott Doty, Hugh Huntzinger.

> Dumb fucks like [ Steve Carroll ] make me want to find a new planet.

You're already gone, lost somewhere in the cosmos of your mind.
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      God/Nature occupies heaven and hell.

Scott Doty:
> [Jesus] addressed His prayers: " Our Father, who art in Heaven, ... ".

God/Nature occupies heaven and hell.
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      If the left didn't have the full force of the government...

Scott Doty wrote:
> The fascinating part of these extremists is they don't recognize 
> themselves as such -- it's everybody _else_ that's the problem.
> Anyone left of Mussolini is a "liberal" or "LIB'RUL!" or "LEFTIST!!!"

If the left didn't have the full force of the government,
guns and all, no one would give a shit.

First, they denounce " Big Oil ",
and decry what it's doing to " the children ",
then they tax&regulate the living shit out of the poor.

The poor are left with nothing but food stamps and a tent.

Stronger unions will not solve the problem of a shrinking planet,
increasing competition, and doctors/wives that would not give a fuck,
even if we could afford them ( we can't ).

Most people are FAKE GREEN, pretending.
Sustainable Consumption is greener then manic windmills; 
but it'll never happen because we call it "depression".

Nothing would be greener than lower, more sustainable wages, and
higher interest rates, to promote savings and discourage borrowing/spending.
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