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            DetroitsFinest  179d4ff866af00d2$36641$1805820$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          DFS  Jd%aN.29077$pgLd.18092@fx05.iad
        DetroitsFinest  179d67a53c3d8ae0$8080$104255$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      DFS  r79bN.88201$zh16.23050@fx48.iad
    DetroitsFinest  179d9691e7420595$39091$2194212$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--5.24am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (138)  OK; 3 Hours, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Dec  4 {  1:23am, 2023 }: 7^(0)  七钧橻
      CREATE TABLE "FoodTable" (...) CHARACTER SET utf8;

You (DetroitsFinest) replied ( to DFS ):
> > The default encoding for a SQLite db is utf-8, but it supports UTF-16 as 
> > well, so it didn't choke when importing food.csv with the UTF-16 characters.
> 
> The appearance of UTF-16 chars in a UTF-8 stream is
> like throwing a monkey wrench into the machinery.

You guys ( DFS included ) are f*cking nuts !
"imgur.com/a/JO6iEhy" is a f*ck up.

Use UTF-8 to read, write, store, and display text.

CREATE DATABASE "FoodDB" CHARACTER SET utf8;
CREATE TABLE "FoodTable" (...) CHARACTER SET utf8;

When Visual Studio edits "Food.CSV" 
( a 165 MegaByte text file in "FoodData_Central_csv_2023-10-26" )
& "Find ALL" "Fatty Acid Content" in "*.CSV" files, I see:

  "Fatty Acid Content of Retail Cow’s Milk [. . .]",

Edit "Food.CSV" with a _BINARY_ editor, like I did, and you'll see that 
each letter consumes only 1 byte, not 2, so it can _NOT_ be UTF-16.
"Cow’s Milk" displays fine, so it _MUST_BE_ UTF-8, not Windows-1252.

Using a binary editor, I see that the apostrophe is 3 bytes long,
"e2 80 99" ( which is "’" if you _wrongly_ assume Windows-1252 );
UTF-16 is nowhere to be found.
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          GNU_You  179d4ff866af00d2$36641$1805820$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
        DFS  Jd%aN.29077$pgLd.18092@fx05.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--6.20am.Seattle.2023
    DFS  Y51bN.27788$Ubzd.9580@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--10.39am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (471)  OK; 2.8 Hours, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  3 {  7:25am, 2023 }:52^(-5)  七钤搀
      Detecting Surrogate Pairs.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > A Unicode "code point" is only 20 bits long, not 32;
> > so a two byte "surrogate pair" (UTF-8) is enough 
> > to describe a 20 bit code point.
> 
> how do you easily determine which character set they come from?

You don't; just assume it.  DOS console needs a "@chcp 65001".

  Using UTF-16 ( wchar_t ), _One_ emoji ligature might contain 
  _Four_ different surrogate pairs, each joined via
  a ZWJ ( Zero Width Joiner, U+200D ) code point.

  For example: the 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 emoji is 24 bytes long:  👨 ZWJ 👩 ZWJ 👧 ZWJ 👦 .

typedef  wchar_t  wchar ;   typedef  char32_t  Uchar ;

//  UTF-16 requires a "Surrogate Pair" ( 2 wchars )
//  to encode one 20 bit UTF-32 (Uchar) code point.

Uchar _i32, i32 = U'⛏';   wchar  pCh[2];

#define  i32＞pCh( Ch, pCh )  \
  ( pCh[1] = 0, Ch >= 0x10000   \
    ? *pCh = 0xd800 | Ch - 0x10000 >> 10, pCh[1] = 0xdc00 + ( Ch & 0x03FF )  \
    : *pCh = Ch )

i32＞pCh( i32, pCh );

SurrogatePair = ( *pCh & 0xF800 ) == 0xD800 ;

_i32 = !SurrogatePair ? *pCh : 0x10000 + ( *pCh - 0xD800 << 10 ) + pCh[1] - 0xDC00 ;
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      GNU_You  179d4ff866af00d2$36641$1805820$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS  Jd%aN.29077$pgLd.18092@fx05.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--6.20am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (470)  OK; 50.3 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  3 {  5:17am, 2023 }:37^(-5)  七钣韱
      Assume UTF-8.

> "inconsistent" character encodings

A Unicode "code point" is only 20 bits long, not 32;
so a two byte "surrogate pair" (UTF-8) is enough 
to describe a 20 bit code point.

UTF-8 is so ubiquitous that it blows my mind, 
yet you guys don't even recognize it when you see it;
if you don't know what the charset is, assume UTF-8.
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              Crump  tuanmil3e31p6tdijtf0hgdp8j19mkgiqo@4ax.com
            FitFreak  ukgdni$29boh$3@solani.org
          Crump  tdmnmi1ke6d8u3roouaeangkh4p0vh8rnq@4ax.com
        FitFreak  ukgp90$2j5t9$1@dont-email.me
      Crump  ejqnmipcvpafpc52d56210mu2abdp523g5@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  19ycndF_cN6dbvb4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--7.23pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (647)  OK; 1.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Dec  2 {  7:16pm, 2023 }:15^(-7)  七钢峿
      cheese and/or pepperoni are nice too.

zZombie(%):
> crackers are the people with the whip

Cool Whip sounds good; cheese and/or pepperoni are nice too.
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      GNU_You  179cff8a6539d602$125438$2221108$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS  xVGaN.149241$BbXa.46949@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--6.56am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (466)  OK; 28.9 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  2 {  6:10am, 2023 }:42^(-5)  七钟髢
      How many doughnuts/day should I be eating ?

Re: The USDA's FDC database.

How many doughnuts/day should I be eating ?
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        GNU_You  179cfddd9c9cba3f$13597$2135710$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      ScottGNU  ukf20q$27kdf$1@dont-email.me
    GNU_You  179d01df0f7ecac9$34319$2194212$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--4.52am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (123)  OK; 34.5 Minutes, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Dec  2 {  3:58am, 2023 }:11^(0)  七钟篓
      Steve Carroll, Branimir Maksimovic, rBowman, ScottGNU, Tyrone & DFS

<< Steve Carroll, Branimir Maksimovic, rBowman, ScottGNU, Tyrone & DFS >>
are|were professional programmers.
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                GNU_You  179cafc9f0bb8f8f$38175$297770$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
              Tyrone│none@none_none  _GudndGJkac1jff4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
            GNU_You  179ccbd0d9279983$36445$1805820$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          DFS  K3zaN.55907$yAie.26386@fx44.iad
        GNU_You  179cfc5a1daab2df$13596$2135710$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--3.19am.Seattle.2023
    GNU_You  179d01caa68d677b$34318$2194212$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--4.44am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (123)  OK; 36 Minutes, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Dec  2 {  3:56am, 2023 }:44^(0)  七钟筼
      Edit "Food.CSV" with a _BINARY_ editor.

You ( Detroit's finest ) replied to me 
( in Seattle, across the pond from Microsoft ):
> > When I edit ( Visual Studio 2019 ) "Food.CSV" 
> > ( a 165 MegaByte text file in "FoodData_Central_csv_2023-10-26" )
> > & "Find ALL" "Fatty Acid Content" in "*.CSV" files, I see:
> > 
> > "Fatty Acid Content of Retail Cow’s Milk [. . .]",
> 
> That is fucking UTF-16 encoding!

Edit "Food.CSV" with a _BINARY_ editor. 
Does each letter consume 2 bytes ?! if not, it's not UTF-16.

Unlike you guys, with your outdated/unruly databases, 
DevStudio ( now Visual Studio ) was Unicode aware in 1988.
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            GNU_You  179cafc9f0bb8f8f$38175$297770$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          Tyrone│none@none_none  _GudndGJkac1jff4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
        GNU_You  179ccbd0d9279983$36445$1805820$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      DFS  K3zaN.55907$yAie.26386@fx44.iad
    GNU_You  179cfc5a1daab2df$13596$2135710$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--3.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (119)  OK; 8.7 Minutes, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Dec  2 {  2:17am, 2023 }: 3^(0)  七钟搟
      UTF-8 is the default character set for all file names everywhere.

> Microslop's native encoding for text is UTF-16, 

UTF-8 is the default character set for all file names everywhere,
including NTFS (Windows), Linux, Chrome, HTML & JavaScript.

> You FAILED!  You're FIRED!  Hit the road, losers!

Sadly, you're par for the course.

P.S. Using UTF-16 ( as Visual C++ does ), _One_ emoji ligature might contain 
_Four_ different surrogate pairs, each joined via
a ZWJ ( Zero Width Joiner, U+200D ) code point.

For example: the 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 emoji is 24 bytes long:  👨 ZWJ 👩 ZWJ 👧 ZWJ 👦 .
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            GNU_You  179cafc9f0bb8f8f$38175$297770$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          Tyrone│none@none_none  _GudndGJkac1jff4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
        GNU_You  179ccbd0d9279983$36445$1805820$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      DFS  K3zaN.55907$yAie.26386@fx44.iad
    GNU_You  179cfc5a1daab2df$13596$2135710$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--3.19am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (119)  OK; 8.7 Minutes, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Dec  2 {  2:17am, 2023 }: 3^(0)  七钟搟
      DevStudio ( now Visual Studio ) was Unicode aware in 1988.

DFS' "undefined characters" are UTF-8 surrogate pairs, not UTF-16.

When I edit ( Visual Studio 2019 ) "Food.CSV" 
( a 165 MegaByte text file in "FoodData_Central_csv_2023-10-26" )
& "Find ALL" "Fatty Acid Content" in "*.CSV" files, I see:

"Fatty Acid Content of Retail Cow’s Milk in the Northeastern United States—What’s in It for the Consumer?",

Unlike you guys, with your outdated/unruly databases, 
DevStudio ( now Visual Studio ) was Unicode aware in 1988.
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              DFS  rp%9N.101609$yvY5.56818@fx10.iad
            FitFreak  ukbbc3$1j1oa$1@dont-email.me
          DFS  5FaaN.4$unw7.2@fx09.iad
        FitFreak  ukbjhp$26ie6$1@solani.org
      DFS  y1maN.22217$_z86.10325@fx46.iad
    FitFreak  ukdsnh$27oht$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--2.12am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (304)  OK; 9.5 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Dec  1 {  4:11pm, 2023 }:29^(-6)  七钝稱
      If Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia needs meth, heroin or missiles.

If Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia needs meth, heroin or missiles,
they'll call you ( Iranian dicks ); otherwise, no.
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              AndyMatt  %Bw9N.25622$cnze.22923@fx35.iad
            FitFreak  uk8kc6$25au1$4@solani.org
          AndyMatt  vD1aN.32166$G%oc.780@fx33.iad
        rBowman  kssovcFksp5U2@mid.individual.net
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ukcss7$1thri$2@dont-email.me
    DFS  lYmaN.164651$Ee89.55827@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--7.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (453)  OK; 27 Secs, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  1 {  7:28am, 2023 }:19^(-5)  七钜冓
      Who's candycanearter ?

> what's a candycanearter ?

& how did he end up in COLA ?
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--5.52am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Glorified AutoFill ( Guided by Context ).

Noam Chomsky ( a Marxist anarchist ) calls chat bots:

  Glorified AutoFill ( Guided by Context ).
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--0.27pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      I doubt China can pay for the the trains it built.

I doubt China can pay for the the trains it built, much less maintain them;
once this becomes obvious to everyone, China's economy will have derailed.
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            AndyMatt  cSa8N.129248$Ee89.87864@fx17.iad
          Tyrone│none@none_none  M6ecnfkZofLrQ__4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@supernews.com
        DFS  rp%9N.101609$yvY5.56818@fx10.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--5.36am.Seattle.2023
    DFS  eT0aN.28838$pgLd.9532@fx05.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--8.17am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (436)  OK; 1.7 Hours, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 30 {  6:20am, 2023 }:58^(-5)  七钗詊
      DFS, the check is in the mail.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > Pay me 500 $ and I'll install Win11 + updates.
> 
> How about you pay me $500 if you don't install it?

Deal, the check is in the mail.

P.S. "USPS" (US mail) is forcing its workers to work overtime
and to prioritize Amazon over its usual clients (junk mail).

My housemate has the same problem, he's being forced to work overtime.
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        AndyMatt  cSa8N.129248$Ee89.87864@fx17.iad
      Tyrone│none@none_none  M6ecnfkZofLrQ__4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@supernews.com
    DFS  rp%9N.101609$yvY5.56818@fx10.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--5.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (435)  OK; 44.6 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 30 {  4:40am, 2023 }:55^(-5)  七钗狗
      Pay me 500 $ and I'll install Win11 + updates.

Pay me 500 $ and I'll install Win11 + updates.

P.S. fat Henry Kissinger made it to 100.
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              AndyMatt  qxw9N.14549$%aH4.8928@fx01.iad
            RonB  uk7dab$rldq$1@dont-email.me
          RonB  uk7dia$rloh$1@dont-email.me
        candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uk7q5q$tmon$4@dont-email.me
      RonB  uk8cnv$10mdi$1@dont-email.me
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uk92te$17dfh$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--0.00am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (132)  OK; 3.3 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 29 {  8:26pm, 2023 }:22^(-6)  七钖僮
      Binary servers are more lax, more anonymous.

Buy a block of data from one of many binary servers.
BlockNews.NET, NewsDemon.COM

Usenet gains 220 TeraBytes each Day.

    NewsDemon.COM/usenet-newsgroup-feed-size

For better or worse, binary servers are more lax, more anonymous.
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              DFS  Np98N.92278$AqO5.40848@fx11.iad
            FitFreak  ujrfud$1ueeq$1@solani.org
          DFS  CHn9N.30371$ayBd.17207@fx07.iad
        FitFreak  uk6041$23ntf$4@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--10.13pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS  EdG9N.9862$DADd.1182@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--4.45am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (429)  OK; 6.7 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 29 {  4:34am, 2023 }:44^(-5)  七钓柤
      Jimmy Carter is 99 years old.

DFS:
> you know Munger died yesterday.       Tera

Yes, I found out after I emailed you and posted here.

P.S.  Jimmy Carter is 99 years old.
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              DFS  5B78N.65582$cAm7.31471@fx18.iad
            FitFreak  ujr1v9$1ufh8$2@solani.org
          DFS  Np98N.92278$AqO5.40848@fx11.iad
        FitFreak  ujrfud$1ueeq$1@solani.org
      DFS  CHn9N.30371$ayBd.17207@fx07.iad
    FitFreak  uk6041$23ntf$4@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--10.13pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (274)  OK; 5.7 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 28 {  4:20pm, 2023 }:20^(-6)  七钑忄
      Obese Charlie Munger (Berkshire Hathaway).

How do you explain this, FitFreak . . . ?

A month from now, obese Charlie Munger (Berkshire Hathaway)
will be 100 years old.  Millions enjoy his ongoing comments/stories.

P.S. He's the same age as my dad would be (RIP 2005).
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          GNU_You  179b357838ebff14$25850$297770$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
        DFS  cL89N.21873$Ck2e.20183@fx37.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--0.27am.Seattle.2023
    DFS  NNo9N.36305$Ycdc.14533@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--9.09am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (429)  OK; 20.6 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 28 {  8:44am, 2023 }:29^(-5)  七钏飭
      Feeb's Voice.

Feeb's Voice:
> https://www.youtube.com/@larrypiet4131

Thanks.
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      GNU_You  179b357838ebff14$25850$297770$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS  cL89N.21873$Ck2e.20183@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--0.27am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (422)  OK; 9.7 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 27 {  2:29pm, 2023 }:34^(-5)  七钌蹎
      Feeb's Voice ?

DFS:
> Feeb, that was pathetic.  You sound more deranged than ever.

I'd like to hear a sample of his voice.
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              Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  65627c64$0$10103$426a74cc@news.free.fr
            Crump  2pv4mi9nsui242ra24a45j0r3iqm2q0age@4ax.com
          Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  65630a23$0$6102$426a34cc@news.free.fr
        Crump  drg7mipvkddsh99bknja5erfu6frk62r3s@4ax.com
      DFS  ZvT8N.13828$%aH4.6629@fx01.iad
    zZombie(%)  D2udnUReGObRkfn4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--10.39pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (662)  OK; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Nov 26 {  7:26pm, 2023 }: 4^(-7)  七钉硌
      Little mammals living in the hot, lush, Canadian Arctic.

zZombie(%):
> go back to where your ancestors came from , ok , bye

Back 60 million years ago, after the dinosaur "extinction" (they became birds),
our ancestors were little mammals living in the hot, lush, Canadian Arctic.

--  Nothing is Greener than GreenHouse Earth.
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              Crump  3p47mi9facecgroirmk0hmgjbgac0kpfas@4ax.com
            FitFreak  uk0i72$219m2$1@solani.org
          Crump  a7j7mih3m6b5ie18837c38bmq58k4qjcst@4ax.com
        zZombie(%)  TOGcncTGsaxwRf74nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
      Crump  rsm7miltgnerfii6efp3qlcrais9lqa927@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  A5CdnV5Nh87Tfv74nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--10.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 11  (662)  OK; 5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Nov 26 {  4:31pm, 2023 }:10^(-7)  七钉低
      Ephedrine is a natural insecticide.

Ephedrine is a natural insecticide.

Iranians were the first to use & abuse it.
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              zZombie(%)  TOGcncfGsazGRP74nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
            Crump  r8n7mi10b9s8i14tfl2l2u0u75doiig560@4ax.com
          zZombie(%)  iNecnbWoMZ-Qef74nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
        Crump  map7mi5v3at9631p3tdmi3rmqj70u6r9b9@4ax.com
      zZombie(%)  M6icnXIz3Z3kbP74nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com
    Crump  nbt7mi5atifois4gc3llonvinrp5sdjt89@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--10.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (971)  OK; 3.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 26 {  5:50pm, 2023 }:15^(-5)  七钉懗
      Zombies.

zZombie(%) wrote:
> > i'm not talking about kiddie caffeine like they put in soda ,
> > if you haven't injected it you've never really used it

That's what all the zombies say.
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          zZombie(%)  E3udnU7n3tcJC_74nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com
        Crump  aek7mitvl8atogmaf8aevau357qnut8rak@4ax.com
      zZombie(%)  TOGcncbGsaw8RP74nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
    Crump  afn7miplqcchn2fev1oqg3o8middfraloc@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.53pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (971)  OK; 5.3 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 26 {  4:12pm, 2023 }:42^(-5)  七针鳺
      Flameshot works on Macs too.

Flameshot works on Macs too.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--5.23am.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  uju2gc$1vvmi$2@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.04pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ujug6r$206lk$4@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--10.57pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uk113a$216pr$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.46pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (262)  OK; 2.4 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 26 {  7:06pm, 2023 }:17^(-6)  七钉玩
      VC applets.

z1.EXE has been tested on my Win10 PC because it's _only_ for me;
it might run on your PC too, if I guided you through it.

It's far too complex for most people.
Basically, it's a Visual C++ graphics terminal;
a number of VC applets run on top of it.

To compile it, one _must_ install Windows 10 SDK & "Visual C 14.22.27905".

Put your "Include", "Lib" paths in "Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.user.props.TXT";
Copy it too "%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\MSBuild\v4.0\";

Remove the ".TXT" extension and ReSart;  
Now, the CodeEditor knows where your Includes are.

Also, put them in:  
Solution Explorer -> Select all projects -> Settings 
-> Configuration Properties -> VC++ Directories.
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              FitFreak  uju2gc$1vvmi$2@solani.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.04pm.Seattle.2023
          FitFreak  ujug6r$206lk$4@solani.org
        FitFreak  ujunt1$2026e$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--11.03pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uk076i$21423$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--3.56pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 5  (256)  OK; 4 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 26 { 11:44am, 2023 }:20^(-6)  七针帔
      Fromm z1.CPP in z1.ZIP:

Fromm z1.CPP in z1.ZIP:

#define  _CRT_RAND_S  
#define  UNICODE
#define  SECURITY_WIN32
#undef   _DEBUG
#define  NTDDI_VERSION  WDK_NTDDI_VERSION

//  Updating Visual Studio may change the "Windows SDK" and the "14.22.27905" in "C:\__\EXEs\VisualStudio2019\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.22.27905\lib\x64".
//  Visual Studio -> Solution Explorer -> RightClick Solution -> ReTarget Solution -> Pick a "Windows SDK".  
//  Put your "Include", "Lib" paths in "Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.user.props.TXT";  Copy it too "%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\MSBuild\v4.0\";
//    Remove the ".TXT" extension and ReSart;  Now, the CodeEditor knows where your Includes are.
//  Also, put them in:  Solution Explorer -> Select all projects -> Settings -> Configuration Properties -> VC++ Directories.

#include <d2d1_1.h>
#pragma comment( lib, "d2d1.LIB")
#include <d3d11_1.h>
#pragma comment( lib, "d3d11.LIB")
using namespace  D2D1 ;
#include <dwrite_1.h>  //  Fonts
#pragma comment( lib, "dwrite.LIB")
#include <wincodec.h>  //  JPG
#pragma comment( lib, "WindowsCodecs.LIB" )
#pragma  comment( lib, "Ws2_32.LIB" )
#pragma comment( lib, "Secur32.LIB" )


#include <StdIO.H>
#include <IO.H>
#include <Math.H>
#include <Time.H>
#include <WChar.H>
#include <Sys/Stat.H>
#include <dbt.H>
#include <MLang.H>
IMultiLanguage3  *IE_Charset ;  MIMECSETINFO CharSetRec ;
#include <ShlDisp.H>
IShellDispatch4 *pShellDisp ;  DEVMODE Disp = { {}, 0, 0, sizeof Disp };
#include <tlhelp32.H>
#include <ShObjIdl.H>
#include <SSPI.H>
#include <sChannel.H>

#undef   DrawText

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              Crump  nu82mi5h7ribj6j7k7oa19h91r0bsj1bbi@4ax.com
            DFS  vcb8N.40001$zh16.3478@fx48.iad
          Crump  fig2milbik3c0b08k5gvqlvsd6vrbbut2u@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  2acfa853-baaa-4d51-8b37-a9b85152de5bn@googlegroups.com
      ChrisV  q3n6mi5ai8fa6so84h1fv0kmq06p14m4hk@4ax.com
    FitFreak  uk0b92$216em$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--3.52pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (256)  OK; 2.8 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 26 {  0:53pm, 2023 }:56^(-6)  七针湤
      Caffeine is a natural insecticide.

Caffeine is a natural insecticide.
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              Crump  8sr3mi1534jnb6msqp5j8vgf72f1kvjhug@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--5.23am.Seattle.2023
          FitFreak  uju2gc$1vvmi$2@solani.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.04pm.Seattle.2023
      FitFreak  ujug6r$206lk$4@solani.org
    FitFreak  ujunt1$2026e$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--11.03pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (252)  OK; 32.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 25 { 10:17pm, 2023 }: 5^(-6)  七钅雡
      How much would I have to pay you to use it ?

You (FitFreak):
> If [z1.ZIP] works on other computers, 
> then why not writing a User's Manual for 
> it as well, so anybody could learn to use it ?

No one wants it. How much would I have to pay you to use it ?

The .ZIP file only exists because DFS asked about it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--10.22pm.Seattle.2023
            Crump  8sr3mi1534jnb6msqp5j8vgf72f1kvjhug@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--5.23am.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  uju2gc$1vvmi$2@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.04pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ujug6r$206lk$4@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--10.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (252)  OK; 2.7 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 25 {  8:05pm, 2023 }:47^(-6)  七钅砛
      "z1.ZIP" compiles.

You (FitFreak) replied ( to me ):
> > Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP
> 
> So your source codes won't compile and build on other people's 
> computers, except on yours?

Pop it in Visual Studio 2019, Community Edition, it compiles.

I've written extensions & macros for MicroSoft Visual Studio:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
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            Crump  1jj2mitklvurofc5bt5b2g50l7p2bic21c@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--10.22pm.Seattle.2023
        Crump  8sr3mi1534jnb6msqp5j8vgf72f1kvjhug@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--5.23am.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uju2gc$1vvmi$2@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.04pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (245)  OK; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 25 {  4:11pm, 2023 }:57^(-6)  七钄鍍
      "Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP" is of no use to anyone but me.

You (FitFreak) replied ( to me ):
> > User-Agent:  Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.HTM
> 
> Would you make the source code available to the public?

I have, Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP; but it's of no use to anyone but me.
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          ScottGNU  ujlh5q$1dv0i$1@dont-email.me
        .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.57pm.Seattle.2023
      .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--9.52am.Seattle.2023
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--1.35am.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.15am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (127)  OK; 7 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 22 { 10:27am, 2023 }: 6  七鑷矺
      The most satisfying way to beat StockFish.

The most satisfying/relaxing way to beat StockFish is to 
use "Chess 960" ( SemiRandom, ECO "B21" ) initial positioning.
"Move Interval" == 5 seconds, StockFish == On.
Play White.  Black has no pawns ( see below, ChessX .PGN file ).

[Event "1"]
[Site "Here&Now"]
[Date "1970.01.01"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "StockFish"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "B21"]
[EventDate "1970.01.01"]
[FEN "rnqkbbnr/8/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNQKBBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1. Nc3 Rxh2  *
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        Crump  1jj2mitklvurofc5bt5b2g50l7p2bic21c@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--10.22pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  8sr3mi1534jnb6msqp5j8vgf72f1kvjhug@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--5.23am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (950)  OK; 20.4 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 25 {  4:59am, 2023 }: 1^(-5)  七钂馕
      No one f*cks with my PC without my explicit permission.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > No one f*cks with my PC without my explicit permission.
> 
> And you're running Windows ?

Yes, Windows 10, User-Agent:  Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.HTM
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              AndyMatt  cSa8N.129248$Ee89.87864@fx17.iad
            Crump  2hf2miltnev5l3m4o32vjujeihov0t2rvu@4ax.com
          AndyMatt  Icc8N.28664$rx%7.14816@fx47.iad
        Crump  3nk2milp0amfbhng00r77nc53i6j9shbl1@4ax.com
      AndyMatt  vVc8N.7141$tIyd.4113@fx34.iad
    Crump  01o2mitreqm640e8pdp672mgqhip4ilmud@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--10.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (949)  OK; 2.9 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 24 {  7:06pm, 2023 }: 5^(-5)  七钁悝
      Usenet gains 220 TeraBytes each Day.

Usenet gains 220 TeraBytes each Day.

    NewsDemon.COM/usenet-newsgroup-feed-size
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    Crump  1jj2mitklvurofc5bt5b2g50l7p2bic21c@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--10.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 8  (949)  OK; 4.2 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 24 {  5:49pm, 2023 }: 0^(-5)  七钁二
      No one f*cks with my PC without my explicit permission.

No one f*cks with my PC without my explicit permission.

Obi-Wan Kenobi:  You must allow me to modify your computer whenever I want.
Crump:  I must allow you to modify my computer whenever you want.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--9.50am.Seattle.2023
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujqrst$2ec0m$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--3.54pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 4.8 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 24 { 11:00am, 2023 }:45^(-6)  七鑿鋝
      Mashed potatoes & gravy from a grocery store deli.

You (arter) replied ( to me ):
> >  Cook it low & slow, in beef bone broth, overnight.
> >  Brown it on a rotating spit ( like a rotisserie chicken ),
> >  basting it with a gravy made from the crockpot juice.
> 
> Thanks for the tip, I suppose.

It's just an idea, something you could try.

Mashed potatoes & gravy from a grocery store deli
is easier, if not better.
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              .  terg97$nt91$1@solani.org
            .  tergdp$nt91$2@solani.org
          .  terq7h$o1j5$1@solani.org
        .  ters2v$o3ji$1@solani.org
      .  ue74a6$97f3$2@solani.org
    FitFreak  ujr0pd$1ucqj$4@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--3.40pm.Seattle.2023
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (235)  OK; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 24 {  0:24pm, 2023 }:12^(-6)  七钀呬
      The Ayatollah bowed down to Reagan.

Jimmy Carter bowed down to the Ayatollah,
the Ayatollah bowed down to Reagan.
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        GNU_You  179a5899fabd15ba$14379$755348$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      DFS  yv78N.65580$cAm7.61115@fx18.iad
    Crump  nu82mi5h7ribj6j7k7oa19h91r0bsj1bbi@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--3.34pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (935)  OK; 9.2 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 24 {  2:33pm, 2023 }:56^(-5)  七钀狔
      Surround Sound.

Logitech g635 USB HeadSet

Thanks to Logitech (g635 USB),
all my audio is surround sound, derived or original.

My songs sound _MUCH_ better in surround sound:

    Jeff-Relf.Me/MyPlayList.HTM
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--9.50am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Best way to cook a steak:

Best way to cook a steak:

   Cook it low & slow, in beef bone broth, overnight.

   Brown it on a rotating spit ( like a rotisserie chicken ),
   basting it with a gravy made from the crockpot juice.
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                  JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
                ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  ujas89$3c9j1$3@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  ujlh5q$1dv0i$1@dont-email.me
      .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.57pm.Seattle.2023
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--9.52am.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--1.35am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (127)  OK; 7 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 22 { 10:27am, 2023 }: 6  七鑷矺
      When StockFish plays its 2nd best move.

When StockFish plays its 2nd best move, I can beat it.

"Move Interval" == 1 second
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                JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
              ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
          ScottGNU  ujas89$3c9j1$3@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023
      ScottGNU  ujlh5q$1dv0i$1@dont-email.me
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.57pm.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--9.52am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (127)  OK; 7 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 22 { 10:27am, 2023 }: 6  七鑷矺
      Game 2.

Game 2.

1. h4

I think _YOU_WILL_WIN_ this time !

Now I, a chess retard, can casually beat StockFish.
Setting StockFish to its lowest settings didn't help; I still (quickly) lost.

The solution was to set ChessX's "Move Interval" to 1 second
& have it list the top 10 moves; StockFish plays the worst move;
when not playing wild, I play the best move.

To make it harder for me, I could simply list the top 5 moves.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  ujas89$3c9j1$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  ujlh5q$1dv0i$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (127)  OK; 7 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 22 { 10:27am, 2023 }: 6  七鑷矺
      There are but a few, finite, ways to succeed.

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > All that testing, tens of thousands of volunteer PCs ( plenty of carbon
> > emissions ), makes it so that there's nothing left to analyze when
> > playtime arrives.
> 
> In that case, I'd better concede the game to your computer...

Right, thanks for the game.

The ECO is finite and, while there are trillions of ways to fail,
there are but a few, finite, ways to succeed.
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              Crump  hh4qlihktus5bk1l48f842g5ufdujtcvh3@4ax.com
            DAVID_KEETING│Squiggles@ass_worm  MPG.3fc6c0658733299698c8dd@usnews.blocknews.net
          zZombie(%)  iK-cnSpEA8x3vcD4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com
        Crump  c39qli5b26gug3270frn09ne7qvd9e0isj@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.44am.Seattle.2023
    Crump  rf2slidkmu14lg4oj4nvvf2kapgjg2mle4@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--6.15am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Support.Depression.Flame, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Slack
    +-, 5.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Nov 22 {  6:03am, 2023 }:55^(-5)  七鑶豋
      In Gaza, "sexual deviants" ( like Crump ) are tortured to death.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > In Gaza, "sexual deviants" ( like Crump ) are tortured to death.
> > Little wonder then, that he supports them, nurtures them, so much.
> 
> how would I get there ?

Join the Israeli army ( as a volunteer ), 
surrender to the first transsexual you see;
don't forget to tell them how badly you need their "girl dick".

--  " Just don't do it. " -- Jews/Zelenskyy.
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              .  TIidnTNRoNhSl8D4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com
            Borked  =3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DWC8dvdperc7DmY1@163.225.176.235=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D
          Crump  hh4qlihktus5bk1l48f842g5ufdujtcvh3@4ax.com
        DAVID_KEETING│Squiggles@ass_worm  MPG.3fc6c0658733299698c8dd@usnews.blocknews.net
      zZombie(%)  iK-cnSpEA8x3vcD4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com
    Crump  c39qli5b26gug3270frn09ne7qvd9e0isj@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.44am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Support.Depression.Flame, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Slack
    ╱ 5  (920)  OK; 15.8 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov 21 {  1:45pm, 2023 }: 7^(-5)  七鑳鳣
      In Gaza, "sexual deviants" ( like Crump ) are tortured to death.

In Gaza, "sexual deviants" ( like Crump ) are tortured to death.

Little wonder then, that he supports them, nurtures them, so much.

--  " Just don't do it. " -- Jews/Zelenskyy.
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              candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujd3e5$3mbdm$8@dont-email.me
            rBowman  krv97vFkkq0U2@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--5.47pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  NfN6N.70331$Ee89.31760@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--6.09pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  6027N.124750$wvv7.111673@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--5.22am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 7.1 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 21 {  5:11am, 2023 }:29^(-5)  七鑲皁
      The Apple Store reminds me of a fenced in preschool, full of crying babies.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > > > The Apple Store reminds me of a fenced in preschool, full of crying babies.
> > >
> > > You don't even use it.
> > 
> > I downloaded/use an "unauthorized" app for the Amazon Fire tablet
> > that lets me mount/use an NTFS formatted USB-C stick.
> 
> What are you even talking about?

Don't worry your pretty little head about it.
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              AndyMatt  YyI6N.37088$Ee89.11807@fx17.iad
            rBowman  ks1p4kF8sorU3@mid.individual.net
          Crump  hkcnlit352apggmmtumpe42sa3lepvrh6c@4ax.com
        rBowman  ks2i62Fe9moU3@mid.individual.net
      Crump  cn5oli1h6isisjdqmlei0qvt6j2a9bmd4p@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  AfCdnSPf1Pvwh8H4nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--6.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (696)  OK; 4.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Nov 20 {  6:48pm, 2023 }:12^(-7)  七鑰衬
      Windows updates.

zZombie(%) wrote:
> windows 10 just sent me a bunch of updates

Tell it to pound sand.
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              Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  6557eb98$0$2981$426a74cc@news.free.fr
            DFS  JeS5N.31998$cAm7.1552@fx18.iad
          AndyMatt  YM26N.18779$gg_1.13838@fx09.iad
        Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  655928a6$0$7758$426a74cc@news.free.fr
      DFS  2Go6N.67172$AqO5.18159@fx11.iad
    ScottGNU  ujghaf$eduk$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--6.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (123)  OK; 4.7 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 20 {  0:58pm, 2023 }:55  七鑯袏
      DFS literally thinks Wine is stolen Winblows source code

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to DFS ):
> > Stallman farmed out his theft to like-minded software thugs.
> 
> Can't take you seriously when you spin-out like this.

DFS, if it were illegal to take photos of people, and I took your photo,
did I "steal" you or "illegally copy" you ?

IBM wrote the original BIOS.
Who owns the copyright to your _COPY_ of it ?
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              RonB  slrnulgjq2.3muk.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
            rBowman  krsr5gF2ri1U4@mid.individual.net
          candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujd3e5$3mbdm$8@dont-email.me
        rBowman  krv97vFkkq0U2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--5.47pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  NfN6N.70331$Ee89.31760@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--6.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 5  (678)  OK; 7.6 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 20 { 10:07am, 2023 }:40^(-5)  七鑯恬
      The Apple Store reminds me of a fenced in preschool, full of crying babies.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > The Apple Store reminds me of a fenced in preschool, full of crying babies.
> 
> You don't even use it.

I downloaded/use an "unauthorized" app for the Amazon fire tablet
that lets me mount/use an NTFS formatted USB-C stick.
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                JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
              ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
          ScottGNU  ujas89$3c9j1$3@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujc4mj$3mbdn$4@dont-email.me
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.25pm.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--0.34am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (111)  OK; 16.8 Minutes, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 18 {  8:58pm, 2023 }:59^(-6)  七鑨鐓
      The game of chess has been solved.

The game of chess has been solved ( using volunteer PCs )
because all games begin the same & there are _FEW_ ways to win.
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              AndyMatt  B_Q5N.46605$AqO5.23586@fx11.iad
            rBowman  krqsajFjanaU8@mid.individual.net
          RonB  slrnulgjq2.3muk.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
        rBowman  krsr5gF2ri1U4@mid.individual.net
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujd3e5$3mbdm$8@dont-email.me
    rBowman  krv97vFkkq0U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--5.47pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (366)  OK; 4.2 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 19 {  0:24pm, 2023 }:31  七鑫盿
      The Apple Store reminds me of a fenced in preschool, full of crying babies.

The Apple Store reminds me of a fenced in preschool, full of crying babies.
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              AndyMatt  6ye5N.56188$svP4.7406@fx12.iad
            rBowman  krnsqoFt3h2U3@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  vlJ5N.58933$svP4.45618@fx12.iad
        rBowman  krpv8bFee5gU1@mid.individual.net
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujd3ht$3mbdm$9@dont-email.me
    rBowman  krv90fFkkq0U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--5.41pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (366)  OK; 4.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 19 {  0:20pm, 2023 }:31  七鑫瘏
      CaseSensitive Searches.

rBowman:
> VS allows you to create bookmarks and go to the previous or next bookmark 
> but afaik you can't name a mookmark and go to it directly. 

I have a selection of CaseSensitive searches ( can be RegEx too )
that lets me jump all over the place, over and over again.

I type what I'm looking for ( anywhere in the source code ),
then search for it, then undo what I typed.

Turbo pascal (1983) & QuickC (1987) were nice code editors.
Before then, I used Vax, Terak and Lilith (Modula 2) editors.

I used the "j" (1983) code editor extensively but I can't Google it,
it might have been from WordPerfect.

Now I use Visual Studio 2019 with macros & extensions:
    "Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM".
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  ujas89$3c9j1$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ujc4mj$3mbdn$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.25pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (111)  OK; 16.8 Minutes, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 18 {  8:58pm, 2023 }:59^(-6)  七鑨鐓
      Chess has too many "unknown unknowns".

You (arter) replied ( to me ):
> > All that testing, tens of thousands of volunteer PCs
> > ( plenty of carbon emissions ), makes it so that
> > there's nothing left to analyze when playtime arrives.
> 
> Right, isn't chess a statistically solvable game? You just find games 
> with the same board position, then see what moves the winning ones did. 

While you're _MOSTLY_ correct, chess has too many "unknown unknowns".
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              Crump  g5filihkrps9cjfjv7echnj1p0d2hf8o8t@4ax.com
            DFS  rUc6N.33691$Ee89.29548@fx17.iad
          Crump  gcnilid72fm7eji16nulaokr3n9obj1ere@4ax.com
        DFS  7Be6N.61489$svP4.22060@fx12.iad
      ScottGNU  ujbud1$3gs1r$2@dont-email.me
    zZombie(%)  W8KcnSy33_SWFMT4nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--8.40pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (720)  OK; 22.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Nov 18 {  8:03pm, 2023 }:22^(-7)  七鑨蜊
      " Just don't do it. " -- Jews/Zelenskyy.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to ScottGNU ):
> > One can change WINEPREFIX to point to another installation of WINE.
> 
> but why would you

Why wouldn't you ?

--  " Just don't do it. " -- Jews/Zelenskyy.
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              GNU_You  1798b2de4fe01704$20254$1858234$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
            Borax_Man│rotflol2@hotmail_com  20231118225627.7de9a737@hotmail.com
          Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  655921da$0$19667$426a74cc@news.free.fr
        Borax_Man│rotflol2@hotmail_com  20231119094412.2d7b3dfe@hotmail.com
      DFS  DMc6N.33690$Ee89.15418@fx17.iad
    ScottGNU  ujbmvr$3gs1r$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--6.05pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (123)  OK; 53.6 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 18 {  5:04pm, 2023 }:59  七鑨崻
      It's done online.

I've signed PDF documents before, 
     Jeff-Relf.Me/2019.ABA.Agreement.PDF
it's done online.
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              ScottGNU  uj7000$2lo74$1@dont-email.me
            ScottGNU  uj70dn$2lo74$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  ujas89$3c9j1$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (122)  OK; 3.1 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 18 {  9:28am, 2023 }:41  七鑦陉
      Scott vs Relf

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5  3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7    5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3 e6
7. O-O a6  8. Bd3 c4  9. Ng5 h6  10. Nxf7 cxd3  11. Qxd3  Kxf7

r     q   b   r  8
  p   b   k p    7
p   n   p n   p  6
      p          5
      P          4
    N Q P        3
P P P     P P P  2
R   B     R K    1

a b c d e f g h

StockFish acts like it's "been there and done that" ( because it has );
it takes less than a second to reveal the best move . . . 
so why heat up the room ?! 17 additional minutes of analysis won't change its answer.

> Though _LLMs_ can't play chess, there is apparently
> a way to use neural nets to train chess computers ?  Interesting.

Yes, it's the _Only_ way that StockFish knows to score something.

2013, a then 33 year old Gary Linscott, in Seattle,
now the Principal Software Engineer at Amazon's Zoox ( self driving vehicles )
devised StockFish's system for deciding whether a change to
the neural network would be beneficial or not.

All that testing, tens of thousands of volunteer PCs 
( plenty of carbon emissions ), makes it so that 
there's nothing left to analyze when playtime arrives.
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              ScottGNU  uj4auk$24a2r$5@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--0.06am.Seattle.2023
          ScottGNU  uj7000$2lo74$1@dont-email.me
        ScottGNU  uj70dn$2lo74$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj94ue$31ed3$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (121)  OK; 43.7 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 17 {  5:44pm, 2023 }:46  七鑤崎
      Scott vs Relf

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5  3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3 e6
7. O-O a6  8. Bd3 c4  9. Ng5 h6  10. Nxf7   cxd3

r     q k b   r  8
  p   b   N p    7
p   n   p n   p  6
      p          5
      P          4
    N p P        3
P P P   Q P P P  2
R   B     R K    1

a b c d e f g h

ScottGNU:
> If you've cranked it up to 45 minutes of pondering, then
> there's no way I can beat it.  But if it's only 2.5 minutes...
> Who knows?

I let it run for 17 minutes this time, out of curiosity.
Soon, you'll have traded your knight & bishop for my c4 pawn.

StockFish 16 would use 1024 cores & 33 TeraBytes of RAM, if it could;
it's neural network ( by Hisayori Noda ) is trained on ordinary, 
volunteer PCs ( 10s of thousands of CPU cores ).

It's ( 40 MB ) executable contains Leela Chess Zero’s data,
providing more weights, higher accuracy & a smaller size.
I'm surprised it doesn't have an option to use GPU cores.

2023 was the year of the neural network, apparently.
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        DFS  hBR5N.93942$wvv7.43805@fx14.iad
      Tyrone│none@none_none  bfmcnYqPScvTcsr4nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@supernews.com
    DFS  wsT5N.93947$wvv7.1311@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--8.17pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (361)  OK; 2.1 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 17 {  4:21pm, 2023 }:51^(-5)  七鑣鮟
      DFS feeds Feeb like a loving mother feeds her only child.

DFS:
> I can't stand that lying, bragging jerkwad.

You feed Feeb like a loving mother feeds her only child.
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              ScottGNU  uj45rv$24a2r$3@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--9.20pm.Seattle.2023
          ScottGNU  uj4auk$24a2r$5@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--0.06am.Seattle.2023
      ScottGNU  uj7000$2lo74$1@dont-email.me
    ScottGNU  uj70dn$2lo74$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.33am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (122)  OK; 1.6 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 16 { 10:15pm, 2023 }:19  七鑠鋷
      Scott vs Relf

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > Bd3 is a bad move, you can take back as many moves as you want;
> > Nothing is ever set in stone here.
> 
> Nah, I'll play it through, even though
> I'm almost certainly going to lose against a computer.
> 
> Ng5

"almost certainly" ?!
The only thing that can beat StockFish 16 is:  more hardware;
& that _Rarely_ happens because $ $ $.

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5  3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3 e6
7. O-O a6  8. Bd3 c4  9. Ng5   h6

r     q k b   r  8
  p   b   p p    7
p   n   p n   p  6
      p     N    5
    p P          4
    N B P        3
P P P   Q P P P  2
R   B     R K    1

a b c d e f g h
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              candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
            ScottGNU  uj45c4$24a2r$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--8.36pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj4985$24a2r$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--9.37pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj4c6t$24a2r$6@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--0.07am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (120)  OK; 1.2 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 { 10:18pm, 2023 }: 5  七鑜訝
      How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine ?

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine ?
> 
> Beats me.  I looked at the info file for gnuchess,
> it doesn't look like it uses more than one core.
> 
> I'm sure the big iron chess computers use multiple threads
> to investigate possible future moves.

I'm using StockFish 16 on my little Win10 PC, ChessX GUI/DataBase of (online)games.
ChessProgramming.ORG/ChessX
I assign StockFish 6 gigs of RAM ( for the hash tables ), plus 4 threads.

I've been doing 2.5 minutes/move 
but I could spend up to 45 minutes/move if I wanted to.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--1.50pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uj4459$24a2r$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--8.23pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj45rv$24a2r$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--9.20pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj4auk$24a2r$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--0.06am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (120)  OK; 1.6 Hours, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  9:56pm, 2023 }:36  七鑜蔔
      Scott vs Relf

Bd3 is a bad move, you can take back as many moves as you want;
Nothing is ever set in stone here.

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3 e6
7. O-O a6  8. Bd3  c4

r     q k b   r  8
  p   b   p p p  7
p   n   p n      6
      p          5
    p P          4
    N B P N      3
P P P   Q P P P  2
R   B     R K    1

a b c d e f g h
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              ScottGNU  uj1pst$1fbcs$4@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
          candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
        ScottGNU  uj45c4$24a2r$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--8.36pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj4985$24a2r$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--9.37pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (117)  OK; 2.8 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  9:27pm, 2023 }:33  七鑜繅
      How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine, I wonder.

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > I wondered how soon before your _vastly_ superior hardware
> > would defeat my "Walmart" PC.
> > You must've memorized the ECO, there is no other explanation.
> > I refuse to memorize chess games; I truly suck.
> 
> I had to look up what ECO means.  Most of what I know about
> chess, I learned in the 80's.  My 6th-grade math teacher (70's) would
> play the game starting with moving the queen's pawn out two spaces.
> 
> I think I got lucky when I put you in check, which
> can discombobulate offensive strategies.  Other than that,
> it's all been establishing board position and playing a fairly
> defensive game.       Are we not having fun?

I've been having a lot of fun, learning a lot.
How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine, I wonder.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
            candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--1.50pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj4459$24a2r$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--8.23pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj45rv$24a2r$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--9.20pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (116)  OK; 10.6 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  8:29pm, 2023 }:51  七鑜炿
      Scott vs Relf

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > How could you be so flawless ? have you memorized the ECO ?
> 
> No.  I just have strategies I learned from my 6th-grade math teacher, 
> chess club, etc.

You had good parents, apparently.
How many brothers &| sisters do you have ?

From Google:

    Sep 1st, 1972, 29-year-old Bobby Fischer (NYC) won the international
    chess crown in Reykjavik, Iceland, when Boris Spassky (USSR)
    resigned before the resumption of Game 21.

I never understood Fischer's hatred of Jews ( including his Jewish mom ).

> > 10-year-old girls beat me.
> 
> I'm guessing they'd beat me too, lol.

It's very humiliating; 
plus I have to tip them ( the grocery store fundraiser ).

> I don't know the notation for it, but castle on the king's side.

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3 e6
7. O-O   a6

r     q k b   r  8
  p   b   p p p  7
p   n   p n      6
  B p p          5
      P          4
    N   P N      3
P P P   Q P P P  2
R   B     R K    1

a b c d e f g h
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--9.01pm.Seattle.2023
          ScottGNU  uj1pst$1fbcs$4@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
    ScottGNU  uj45c4$24a2r$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--8.36pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (115)  OK; 2.3 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  8:21pm, 2023 }:24  七鑜滄
      I refuse to memorize chess games; I truly suck.

Scott:
> once [ StockFish, given 6 gigs of RAM, 4 threads, 2.5 minutes/move ]
> starts taking pieces, I won't last long.
> 
> I had thought about using the computer to come up with
> moves, but this is more fun.  I'm curious to see how
> badly I lose. ;)

I wondered how soon before your _vastly_ superior hardware
would defeat my "Walmart" PC.

You must've memorized the ECO, there is no other explanation.

I refuse to memorize chess games; I truly suck.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--9.01pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uj1pst$1fbcs$4@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
        candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--1.50pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj4459$24a2r$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--8.23pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (114)  OK; 5.3 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  8:00pm, 2023 }:41  七鑜槩
      Have you memorized the ECO ?

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > It's dead even, both sides have been flawless.
> > Scott has more "compute"; 250 gigabytes on his desktop,
> > & he has countless threads/CPUs ( I assume ).
> 
> I'm not using compute on the game -- that's meatware.

How could you be so flawless ? have you memorized the ECO ?

10-year-old girls beat me.

> > Scott forgets if it's his turn or not.
> 
> Patience, please -- between sleep, projects, 
> and power failures, I can get delayed.

Ouch ! take care.
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                JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.15pm.Seattle.2023
              ScottGNU  uj1h54$1fbcs$3@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--9.01pm.Seattle.2023
          ScottGNU  uj1pst$1fbcs$4@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--1.50pm.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--2.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 11  (100)  OK; 5.5 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  7:42am, 2023 }:20^(-6)  七鑚惜
      Scott forgets if it's his turn or not.

Scott forgets if it's his turn or not. Not:
> he forgets if   this is [sic]  turn or not.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.15pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uj1h54$1fbcs$3@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--9.01pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj1pst$1fbcs$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uj2oss$1pt93$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--1.50pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 11  (100)  OK; 5.5 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 15 {  7:42am, 2023 }:20^(-6)  七鑚惜
      Scott has more "compute".

You (arter) replied ( to me ):
> > 1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3   e6
> 
> Who's winning?

It's dead even, both sides have been flawless.

Scott has more "compute"; 250 gigabytes on his desktop,
& he has countless threads/CPUs ( I assume ); so it's his game to lose.
Also, I spend very little time analyzing a move.

Also, he forgets if it's his turn or not.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.09pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uj1e31$1fbcs$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.15pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj1h54$1fbcs$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--9.01pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj1pst$1fbcs$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--11.36pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (113)  OK; 29.6 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 14 { 10:53pm, 2023 }:17  七鑘裝
      Scott vs Relf

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3   e6

r     q k b   r  8
p p   b   p p p  7
    n   p n      6
  B p p          5
      P          4
    N   P N      3
P P P   Q P P P  2
R   B   K     R  1

a b c d e f g h
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uiuu82$tov1$5@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.09pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uj1e31$1fbcs$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.15pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj1h54$1fbcs$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--9.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (112)  OK; 24.8 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 14 {  8:24pm, 2023 }: 4  七鑘旤
      Scott vs Relf

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7   5. Qe2  Nc6

r     q k b   r  8
p p   b p p p p  7
    n     n      6
  B p p          5
      P          4
    N   P        3
P P P   Q P P P  2
R   B   K   N R  1

a b c d e f g h
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              RonB  slrnul5brh.fiu3.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
            AndyMatt  Nzy4N.5841$gg_1.5577@fx09.iad
          RonB  slrnul5t77.fu50.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
        AndyMatt  8bK4N.10228$rx%7.9938@fx47.iad
      RonB  slrnul80ur.h583.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
    rBowman  krire0Fn2tmU5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.42pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 6  (334)  OK; 1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 14 {  7:15pm, 2023 }:12  七鑘嗀
      "VoIP.MS" ( Montréal Canada ).

Strolling down memory Lane, rBowman mentioned:
> US West to Quest to CenturyLink. The AT&T long distance provider
> that I haven't used since we shot the last tyrannosaurus.

"VoIP.MS" ( Montréal Canada ) handles all my telephony needs.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uiuk6e$tov1$4@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uiuu82$tov1$5@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.09pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uj1e31$1fbcs$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.15pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (110)  OK; 12.6 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 14 {  7:31pm, 2023 }:45  七鑘妡
      Scott vs Relf

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3 Nf6  4. Bb5+  Bd7

r n   q k b   r  8
p p   b p p p p  7
          n      6
  B p p          5
      P          4
    N   P        3
P P P     P P P  2
R   B Q K   N R  1

a b c d e f g h
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      Crump  7t08lihoa1t32hdqjoq9et0d5elvmimdaq@4ax.com
    David_LaRue│huey_dll@tampabay_rr_com  XnsB0BCE84A1814Ehueydlltampabayrrcom@135.181.20.170
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-11, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (1) ify; 13.7 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 14 {  7:50pm, 2023 }:15  七鑘巷
      What are you doing that requires 64 GB of RAM ?

David_LaRue:
> Addng RAM will help any platform.
> My 64GB for Win 7 Pro does all I need and its over 10 years old.
> I'm not a gamer though.

What are you doing that requires 64 GB of RAM ?
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              zZombie(%)  BladneL1PpeWec74nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
            Crump  frp7lit5ihhga35amqkr2sghqpap6f3dg9@4ax.com
          zZombie(%)  lEOdnevrU4eJdc74nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com
        FitFreak  uj116m$1h1rf$1@solani.org
      Crump  om28li9pdibr0roki0r6cqcp636ke4rr0e@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  fiCdnSrfK4L-kMn4nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--4.30pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (740)  OK; 5.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Nov 14 {  4:14pm, 2023 }:27^(-7)  七鑗絣
      Better to say nothing and be thought a fool . . .

FitFreak, Crump & zZombie(%):
> > > I've been on Usenet since 95 because it's censor free.
> > 
> > Here, I can say whatever I want.
>  
> i say whatever i want to the bus driver.

Better to say nothing and be thought a fool
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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              RonB  slrnul3erf.edav.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
            AndyMatt  Pep4N.55788$wvv7.17086@fx14.iad
          DFS  Lds4N.9874$Wzw6.4188@fx13.iad
        FitFreak  uitsik$1fiis$3@solani.org
      DFS  9tw4N.20234$cAm7.862@fx18.iad
    FitFreak  uiupqf$1fuqj$3@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.45am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (193)  OK; 4.2 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 13 {  7:33pm, 2023 }:36^(-6)  七鑔傐
      The only thing uglier than politics is politicians.

The only thing uglier than politics is politicians.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--0.38am.Seattle.2023
            ScottGNU  uiuehg$tov1$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uiuk6e$tov1$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uiuu82$tov1$5@dont-email.me
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (110)  OK; 19.3 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 13 {  8:49pm, 2023 }: 7  七鑔扃
      Scott vs Relf

1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5   3. e3   Nf6

r n b q k b   r  8
p p     p p p p  7
          n      6
    p p          5
      P          4
    N   P        3
P P P     P P P  2
R   B Q K B N R  1

a b c d e f g h
■
              Tyrone│none@none_none  Zvucnb6PpZ92Hsz4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
            ScottGNU  uis3j1$f5db$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--0.38am.Seattle.2023
        ScottGNU  uiuehg$tov1$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uiuk6e$tov1$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (109)  OK; 58.9 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 13 {  5:57pm, 2023 }:35  七鑓谏
      Scott vs Relf

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to me ):
> > c5
> 
> Are you moving your pawn or your knight ?

My pawn; my knight can't get there.

1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 c5

Jeff-Relf.Me/ScottVsRelf.PNG

r n b q k b n r 8
p p     p p p p 7
                6
    p p         5
      P         4
    N           3
P P P   P P P P 2
R   B Q K B N R 1
a b c d e f g h
■
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--4.42pm.Seattle.2023
          Tyrone│none@none_none  Zvucnb6PpZ92Hsz4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
        ScottGNU  uis3j1$f5db$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--0.38am.Seattle.2023
    ScottGNU  uiuehg$tov1$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (108)  OK; 26.7 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 13 {  4:21pm, 2023 }: 4  七鑓異
      Scott vs Relf

ScottGNU:
> QN b1-c3

c5
■
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--4.42pm.Seattle.2023
          Tyrone│none@none_none  Zvucnb6PpZ92Hsz4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
        ScottGNU  uis3j1$f5db$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--0.38am.Seattle.2023
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uitfo5$mu8b$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--4.24pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (86)  OK; 8.7 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 13 {  7:35am, 2023 }:33^(-6)  七鑑鹅
      d5

You (arter) replied ( to me ):
> > d5
> 
> I'm not sure if that is proper chess notation.

It is because no other piece that can go there.

Scott should reply:  c4
■
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  8CIWK.54686$SMP5.5264@fx05.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.21--7.55pm.Seattle.2022
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  %tQWK.646064$BKL8.462891@fx15.iad
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.21--8.37pm.Seattle.2022
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--8.01am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (246) Top; 2.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Sep 21 {  8:18pm, 2022 }:19^(-4)  七趛篻
      StockFish is perfect, no need to alter it.

Re: StockFishChess.ORG

It's perfect, no need to alter it.

DOS> StockFish.EXE

setoption name threads value 6
position fen 1rk4r/1nbn3b/pppppppp/8/8/NNNNNNNN/8/2Q3K1 w - - 0 0
go movetime 5000
eval

quit
DOS> 

d:
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 | r | n | b | q | k | b | n | r | 8
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | 7
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | 6
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 |   |   | p | p |   |   |   |   | 5
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 |   |   |   | P |   |   |   |   | 4
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 |   |   | N |   |   |   |   |   | 3
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 | P | P | P |   | P | P | P | P | 2
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 | R |   | B | Q | K | B | N | R | 1
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
   a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

Fen: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--4.42pm.Seattle.2023
      Tyrone│none@none_none  Zvucnb6PpZ92Hsz4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com
    ScottGNU  uis3j1$f5db$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--0.38am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (107)  OK; 37 Minutes, Pan➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 12 {  7:01pm, 2023 }:53  七鑏醡
      d5

ScottGNU:
> GNU Chess 6.2.7  Hey Relf!  d4

ChessX 1.6.0 ( .PGN files )  SourceForge.NET/p/chessx/bugs/

d5
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--4.42pm.Seattle.2023
      Crump  v7t2li9s2tpfdjbutjfoea4o3v0fbr0gbl@4ax.com
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uirtf3$7n1k$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--5.49pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (80)  OK; 14.7 Minutes, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 12 {  5:17pm, 2023 }:23^(-6)  七鑏礣
      Linux losers have no idea because they can't play "chess".

Win10 is chess, LinuxDistros are checkers.

It's been years since I last updated Win10;
it only happens when _I_ want it to happen;
I don't give a sh*t about anyone else's schedule.

Linux losers have no idea because they can't play "chess".

Thanks to Logitech (g635 USB),
all my audio is 7 channel surround sound,
be it derived or sourced.

6 channel sourced, "South Park Joining The Panderverse  2023"
6 channel sourced, "Family Guy s22e01, Fertilized Megg"

My songs sound _MUCH_ better in 7 channel mode:
    Jeff-Relf.Me/MyPlayList.HTM

My Win10 Mouse & Keyboard:
   Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--4.51pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Euphemistically, AI Biases are called, "Safety & Controllability".

Euphemistically, AI Biases are called, "Safety & Controllability".
  YouTube.COM/watch?v=5GtVrk00eck
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--4.42pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Win10 is chess, LinuxDistros are checkers.

Win10 is chess, LinuxDistros are checkers.
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--2.24am.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  cQK3N.1282$zh16.184@fx48.iad
          RonB  uioi9q$3iu6c$1@dont-email.me
        FitFreak  uiookf$1d1rh$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--1.11pm.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  kraqolF7m5tU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--6.37pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (298)  OK; 12.1 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 11 {  6:14pm, 2023 }:45  七鑋紕
      Shah, 1976, says Jews control America.

Shah, 1976, says Jews control America:
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=9RH2wXQtFdo

Hitler, Kanye West && the KKK agree.
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            AndyMatt  VhP3N.531$Jbsd.226@fx03.iad
          DFS  CtQ3N.14345$Ee89.6918@fx17.iad
        AndyMatt  3dT3N.18252$Ee89.5355@fx17.iad
      DFS  d2V3N.10489$yAie.4848@fx44.iad
    AndyMatt  9uV3N.5879$Wzw6.2166@fx13.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--5.17pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (566)  OK; 10.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Thunder, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 11 {  5:01pm, 2023 }:56^(-5)  七鑋氄
      Buy HDMI cables.

AndyMatt:
> For two years of owning this laptop, the sound is always perfect. 
> Last night, after disconnecting the laptop from a dock which has HDMI 
> connected to it, I turn it back on upstairs and the sound was low 
> and sounded like it was coming out of a can.

Buy a 2-Pack of 10 foot 8k HDMI 2.1 Cables, "SnowKids", 
14 $; price includes overnight shipping, 9am arrival.
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              ScottGNU  uimiaa$332sh$1@dont-email.me
            FitFreak  uineah$1cb6l$1@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--2.24am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  cQK3N.1282$zh16.184@fx48.iad
      RonB  uioi9q$3iu6c$1@dont-email.me
    FitFreak  uiookf$1d1rh$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--1.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (170)  OK; 0 Secs, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Nov 11 {  0:59pm, 2023 }:12^(-6)  七鑊蔠
      The Imperial State of Iran, 1953-1979.

Re: The Imperial State of Iran, 1953-1979

The Shah was an anti-Semite same as Hitler.
■
    AndyMatt  VhP3N.531$Jbsd.226@fx03.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--0.44pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (560)  OK; 2.5 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 11 {  9:59am, 2023 }:17^(-5)  七鑊嫵
      My Logitech g635 USB HeadSet is 7 channel surroundsound.

> Seriously, fuck Windows 11

I've never felt a desire to try Win11.
I might try Win12.

My Logitech g635 USB HeadSet is 7 channel surroundsound.
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              FitFreak  uimgto$1bsd8$4@solani.org
            ScottGNU  uimiaa$332sh$1@dont-email.me
          FitFreak  uineah$1cb6l$1@solani.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--2.24am.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  cQK3N.1282$zh16.184@fx48.iad
    RonB  uioi9q$3iu6c$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--0.36pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (400)  OK; 1.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov 11 { 10:48am, 2023 }:27  七鑊晻
      Iranians destruction of Jews/Ukrainians matches Hitler's.

RonB is full of crap . . . if someone raped his daughters to death
and killed his grandchildren in their cribs
he'd seek & destroy the perpetrators, same as Israel.

Iranians destruction of Jews/Ukrainians matches Hitler's.
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    methyl_viologen│spraytheworld@save_now  20798bba8cdce678b727b4e65745b970@dizum.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--2.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics.Marijuana, Sci.Med.Diseases.Cancer, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 1  (1) ify; 15 Hours, BadRig, Dizum.NET➤Dizum.COM,  Nov 10 { 11:26am, 2023 }:54^(CET)  七鑆旾
      Raspberry leaf joints/roaches.

> adults who misuse pot have a 60% higher risk of experiencing 
> their first heart attack, stroke, or other major cardiovascular event.

I smoke raspberry leaf joints/roaches ( tastes like lawn clippings );
that's it -- no tobacco, no skunk/weed.  Everything in _MODERATION_.
I get plenty of SecondHand smoke, skunk, from my neighbors.
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              FitFreak  uih9iv$196f7$3@solani.org
            DFS  k683N.6100$Ee89.371@fx17.iad
          FitFreak  uijslo$1aed2$3@solani.org
        FitFreak  uimgto$1bsd8$4@solani.org
      ScottGNU  uimiaa$332sh$1@dont-email.me
    FitFreak  uineah$1cb6l$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.11--2.24am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (168)  OK; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Solani.ORG,  Nov 11 {  0:39am, 2023 }:55^(-5)  七鑈篛
      Iranians hate Jews/Ukrainians.

Iranians hate Jews/Ukrainians, which puts them right up there with Hitler.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.14pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      India and China are green, jealous.

Russia, Iran & Hamas hate Israel & Ukraine for the same reason Hitler hated Jews.
India and China are just green, jealous.
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              Crump  499okid6oh5ln4gp8uog7uh38ao0vtnln1@4ax.com
            DFS  Sm63N.8274$cAm7.5013@fx18.iad
          Crump  f20qki10rngd66oeei59hs3ndg5jfvvmn9@4ax.com
        DFS  9383N.6098$Ee89.3030@fx17.iad
      Crump  s04qkipu60993hbfpjqahgfsp19r3olurs@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  uij3tm$1uj0o$1@paganini.bofh.team
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--2.41pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (828)  OK; 3.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Bofh.Team,  Nov  9 {  9:12am, 2023 }:22^(-5)  七鑁軶
      zZombie's job.

"get a job, you lazy faggot", zZombie(%) scolded himself, yet again.
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        DFS  6583N.6099$Ee89.4899@fx17.iad
      zZombie(%)  YACdndIww46AjtD4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com
    DFS  yQa3N.1766$wvv7.549@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--1.36pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (269)  OK; 1.1 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov  9 { 11:57am, 2023 }:18^(-5)  七鑂掞
      YT-DLP

YT-DLP  -f b --merge-output-format mp4   -o "C:/__/mp4/%(title).99s -- %(id)s  .%(ext)s"  \
  --no-mtime  --encoding UTF8  --write-sub  --write-auto-sub  --embed-subs  --sub-lang en  \
  --cookies C:/__/EXEs/Shell/Cookies.TXT

"-f" is _Not_ the same as "-F".

"-f b" _Should_ be the default yet it's needed sometimes;
other times ( very rarely ) it must be omitted.

"YT-DLP  -U" updates me to the current nightly.

YT-DLP   --extract-audio  --audio-format mp3  \
  -o "C:/__/mp4/%(title).99s  .%(ext)s"
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              AndyMatt  UMy2N.60765$qoC8.11003@fx40.iad
            RonB  slrnuklk16.74jb.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
          FitFreak  uiep5m$180j8$4@solani.org
        DFS  JeU2N.6$DADd.2@fx38.iad
      FitFreak  uih9iv$196f7$3@solani.org
    DFS  k683N.6100$Ee89.371@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--1.17pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 10  (269)  OK; 4.2 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov  9 {  8:51am, 2023 }:31^(-5)  七鑁訓
      FitFreak is no Einstein.

FitFreak is no Einstein;
he thinks you (DFS) are a woman and I'm a 14-year-old boy.
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              RonB  slrnukjpah.5ljg.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
            FitFreak  uiemgs$180j8$1@solani.org
          RonB  slrnukm1ph.7cr7.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
        FitFreak  uif270$18441$1@solani.org
      RonB  slrnukoun1.8v7p.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
    FitFreak  uihv8o$19j8k$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--10.54pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (154)  OK; 0 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Solani.ORG,  Nov  8 { 10:49pm, 2023 }:19^(-5)  七鑀仯
      Buy a fine new cable for each monitor.

Buy a fine new cable for each monitor.
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              Crump  titnkitio79nhrl1n4nnovuhs4lkfuq5df@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  D%S2N.3$DADd.2@fx38.iad
          Crump  q20okip2u5rv2sv8atm5meba45dd34c7dq@4ax.com
        AndyMatt  ozT2N.2$Ubzd.1@fx36.iad
      Crump  at1okidv4t15v3es88q2uelgqkqnhs2bcs@4ax.com
    rBowman  kr2pv8FmdpvU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.13pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (297)  OK; 2.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov  8 {  5:12pm, 2023 }: 8  七鐿凨
      Hippies prefer Hamas over Israel, Ukraine over Russia.

The "Pharisees" ( rabbis, bankers ) convinced Rome to crucify Jesus;
the little people, the forsaken, loved Jesus.

Hippies prefer Hamas over Israel, Ukraine over Russia.
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              AndyMatt  emh2N.288973$2fS.110@fx16.iad
            rBowman  kqtpa3Frhr3U1@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  6lq2N.29661$6Z79.12649@fx38.iad
        rBowman  kqvt37F74ivU10@mid.individual.net
      AndyMatt  MwA2N.39887$EUq9.26672@fx41.iad
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uigc8l$1lhih$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 3  (55)  OK; 11.3 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov  8 {  8:16am, 2023 }:20^(-6)  七鐽硔
      iTunes, 2005

Re: iTunes, 2005

candycane:
> They probably didn't want to normalize 
> copying your friend's library with their tech.

2005 Apple hadn't anticipated 2017 TikTok, that's for sure.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--11.17pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Hamas is gay.

Hamas is gay ＜/sarcasm＞.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--4.50pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      ~30 million $ for 2024.

Already in 2023, Denver County Court has seen more eviction cases
( ~12 thousand ) than it did in 2008.

To prevent evictions, the city has paid out ~30 million $ this year,
& has allocated another ~30 million $ for 2024.
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              AndyMatt  dL52N.285293$8fO.105882@fx15.iad
            RonB  slrnukj68m.543i.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
          AndyMatt  emh2N.288973$2fS.110@fx16.iad
        rBowman  kqtpa3Frhr3U1@mid.individual.net
      AndyMatt  6lq2N.29661$6Z79.12649@fx38.iad
    rBowman  kqvt37F74ivU10@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--4.03pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (290)  OK; 50 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov  7 {  2:47pm, 2023 }: 3  七鐺硧
      When iShuffle & iTunes came out.

When iShuffle & iTunes came out, 
it felt like a sewer pipe had broken
& it was dripping all over me.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--3.49pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Dog vs. Skunk.

"Dog vs. Skunk - JRE Toons":
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=2zM6a3o8MPg

"Another mother F*cker stepped up and found out."
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              Crump  sgp2kil9abm0hvfutd2skqm38tdvci0352@4ax.com
            DFS  yJf1N.211086$0UVe.104242@fx17.iad
          rBowman  kqnmj0Fpqg3U5@mid.individual.net
        candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ui6aei$38rbs$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--2.33pm.Seattle.2023
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ui6gkr$3j6sr$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--5.14pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (46)  OK; 1.2 Hours, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov  4 {  3:29pm, 2023 }:47^(-5)  七鐮埛
      How my "C++ Console" (z1.EXE) allows me to select 24 byte ligatures.

candy wrote:
> so you could easily calculate how big a string will be rendered.

Yes, that's how my "C++ Console" (z1.EXE) allows me to Select/Cut
a block of text inside of a larger block of text.

Text files, and Win10/Linux filenames are UTF-8;
z1.EXE is UTF-16 with some UTF-32.
 
Using UTF-16, _One_ emoji ligature might contain 
_Four_ different surrogate pairs, each joined via
a ZWJ ( Zero Width Joiner, U+200D ) code point.

For example: the 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 emoji is 24 bytes long:  👨 ZWJ 👩 ZWJ 👧 ZWJ 👦 .
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              Crump  cti2kip6pkpdiu1f5kaq16nof1altr7ceh@4ax.com
            DFS  2_c0N.166529$sxoa.132480@fx13.iad
          Crump  sgp2kil9abm0hvfutd2skqm38tdvci0352@4ax.com
        DFS  yJf1N.211086$0UVe.104242@fx17.iad
      rBowman  kqnmj0Fpqg3U5@mid.individual.net
    candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ui6aei$38rbs$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--2.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (45)  OK; 2.2 Minutes, Betterbird, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov  4 {  1:44pm, 2023 }: 2^(-5)  七鐭鄒
      Learn Computers, Dedbeats!

candy:
> fonts should store how wide each character is in an array 
> or something, so you can easily multiply it out.

They are. From "z1.CPP" in "Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP" . . .

#include <d2d1_1.h>
#pragma comment( lib, "d2d1.LIB")
#include <d3d11_1.h>
#pragma comment( lib, "d3d11.LIB")
using namespace  D2D1 ;
#include <dwrite_1.h>  //  Fonts
#pragma comment( lib, "dwrite.LIB")
#undef   DrawText
 . . .
typedef unsigned  char  uchar ;  typedef  wchar_t  wchar ;   typedef  char32_t  Uchar ;  typedef  unsigned short  ushort ;  

typedef  ID2D1Bitmap1  *SurT ;  typedef  ID2D1SolidColorBrush  *ColorT ;
struct FonT { float  GlyphH, GlyphY ;  LnP Nym ;  IDWriteFont  *fonInfo ;  
              IDWriteFontFace  *glyphInfo ;  IDWriteTextFormat  *Draw ;  };

struct  CharSurT  {  int X ;  SurT  Sur ;  };
struct  GlyphT  {  int  MemSz, Known, Cols, NoFont, GlyphW, GlyphH, aMemSz ;  Uchar i32 ; 
                   FonT  *Font ;  wchar  pCh[ mxLigature ], apCh[2];  CharSurT  CharSur[ cnt_Fgs ];  };
 . . .
typedef  GlyphT  *GlyphP ;  typedef  GlyphP  *GlyphA ;  struct  _GlyphT {  GlyphA  BB, PP, maxPP ; };
typedef  SurT  SurP ;  typedef  SurT  *SurA ;  struct  _SurT {  SurA  BB, PP, maxPP ; };
GlyphT  z1glyph3 = { 3 }, z1glyph1 = { 1 };
 . . .
FonT  FixedWFont, Emoji, Symbols, SegoeUI, YaHei, MonoplyFont, SolitaireFont, ChessFont ;
 . . .
DrawText( SurT To, LnP B, FonT &F, ColorT  C, int X, int Y ) { dxWin->SetTarget( To );
  dxWin->DrawTextW( B, tSz ? tSz : szStr( B ), F.Draw, _R( X, Y, WinW, 0 ), C, 
  D2D1_DRAW_TEXT_OPTIONS_ENABLE_COLOR_FONT ), tSz = 0 ;  }

#define  i32＞pCh( Ch, pCh )  ( \
    pCh[1] = 0, Ch >= 0x10000 ? *pCh = 0xd800 | Ch - 0x10000 >> 10, pCh[1] = 0xdc00 + ( Ch & 0x03FF ) : *pCh = Ch )

DrawText( SurT To, Uchar Ch, FonT &F, ColorT  C, int X, int Y ) {  wchar  pCh[2];  i32＞pCh( Ch, pCh ), dxWin->SetTarget( To );
  dxWin->DrawTextW( pCh, 1 + !!pCh[1], F.Draw, _R( X, Y, WinW, 0 ), C, D2D1_DRAW_TEXT_OPTIONS_ENABLE_COLOR_FONT ), tSz = 0 ;  }

DrawText( SurT To, wchar Ch, FonT &F, ColorT  C, int X, int Y ) { tSz = 1, DrawText( To, &Ch, F, C, X, Y );  }
 . . .
#define  ．  return -123 ;

GlyphWH( FonT  &F, LnP Ligature, int Len ) { if ( !F.glyphInfo ) ．
  Len = er( Len, mxLigature ); DWRITE_SCRIPT_ANALYSIS scriptAnalysis = {};
  ushort  clusterMap[ mxLigature ], glyphIndices[ mxLigature ];  DWRITE_SHAPING_TEXT_PROPERTIES  textProps[ mxLigature ];
  DWRITE_SHAPING_GLYPH_PROPERTIES glyphProps[ mxLigature ];
  uint  GlyphCount ;  float  glyphAdvances[ mxLigature ];  DWRITE_GLYPH_OFFSET glyphOffsets[ mxLigature ];

  SysGlyphWH->GetGlyphs( Ligature, Len, F.glyphInfo, 0,0, &scriptAnalysis, 0,0,0,0, 0
  , mxLigature, clusterMap, textProps, glyphIndices, glyphProps, &GlyphCount ); 

  SysGlyphWH->GetGlyphPlacements( Ligature, clusterMap, textProps, Len, glyphIndices
  , glyphProps, GlyphCount, F.glyphInfo, F.GlyphH, 0,0, &scriptAnalysis, 0,0,0, 0, glyphAdvances, glyphOffsets  );
  GlyphW = 0, GlyphH = F.GlyphH ;
  LoopJ( GlyphCount ) GlyphW += glyphAdvances[J];  ． }
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              RonB  slrnuk7lk9.o0a.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
            AndyMatt  faV0N.150292$HwD9.91034@fx11.iad
          RonB  slrnuk8u5s.1gi4.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
        rBowman  kqld7kF9d1iU1@mid.individual.net
      RonB  slrnukc3rl.32ct.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
    rBowman  kqnoaeFpqg3U7@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--2.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (262)  OK; 9.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov  4 {  1:36pm, 2023 }:30  七鐭轎
      3.5 oz Bag says 2 $, price is 2 for 17.88 $.

4.5 oz bag of Chester's PuffCorn, cheese flavor
( it melts in your mouth, like cotton candy ):

  Bag says 2 $, price is 9.92 $.
  AMAZON.COM/Chesters-2840000228-PuffCorn-Cheese/dp/B004WG2JKW/

3.5 oz bag of Chester's PuffCorn, butter flavor:

  Bag says 2 $, price is 2 for 17.88 $.
  WALMART.COM/ip/Chester-s-PuffCorn-Butter-Puffed-Corn-Snacks-3-5-Oz-1-Bag-SET-OF-2/2709147560

Those _Pretending_ to sell it for less have been sold out for many moons now.
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              DFS  Bov1N.366199$w4ec.70151@fx14.iad
            Crump  801dkito8j7l2orkfbj1kf8lflu3gqu55l@4ax.com
          .  MPG.3fb05062e78d8c3298970d@news.usenetexpress.com
        .  1b2dkil39b4f64055dlpcf28e0hf5okjnm@4ax.com
      rBowman  kqnk6oFpqg3U1@mid.individual.net
    Crump  959dkit35gcgg5naeo2p5uhi9blbggh1vp@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--1.44pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (899)  OK; 20.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Nov  4 {  1:13pm, 2023 }:39^(-4)  七鐭觳
      The hot, lush, Canadian Arctic.

Back 60 million years ago, after the dinosaur "extinction" (they became birds),
our ancestors were little mammals living in the hot, lush, Canadian Arctic.
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              RonB  slrnuk7lk9.o0a.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
            AndyMatt  faV0N.150292$HwD9.91034@fx11.iad
          RonB  slrnuk8u5s.1gi4.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
        AndyMatt  K451N.19740$3l%9.14608@fx02.iad
      RonB  slrnuka70a.26at.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
    AndyMatt  EC91N.36497$AvZ9.23694@fx35.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--10.22am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (476)  OK; 5.1 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov  3 {  9:56am, 2023 }: 4^(-4)  七鐩判
      Hamas gets virgins ( one way or another ).

AndyMatt:
> I am bothered by the fact that I will never get 
> to sleep with a 19-year-old because of my age. :)

Hamas gets virgins ( one way or another ).
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              rBowman  kq8bhvFc3mvU3@mid.individual.net
            RonB  slrnuju2bo.20s1.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
          rBowman  kq8pu3Feq82U4@mid.individual.net
        AndyMatt  2%O%M.37661$EUq9.23750@fx41.iad
      rBowman  kqahdmFsm25U1@mid.individual.net
    AndyMatt  XMW%M.54587$5618.10465@fx33.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--5.20pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (413)  OK; 32.2 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 30 {  4:13pm, 2023 }:50^(-4)  七鐙蒮
      I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.

rBowman:
> > Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected.

I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.
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              rBowman  kq8bhvFc3mvU3@mid.individual.net
            RonB  slrnuju2bo.20s1.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--3.58am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  U4P%M.37663$EUq9.29281@fx41.iad
      RonB  slrnuk05o0.3esm.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
    AndyMatt  WQW%M.351413$w4ec.185149@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--4.52pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (413)  OK; 27.9 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 30 {  4:18pm, 2023 }: 4^(-4)  七鐙薬
      Shani Louk was probably raped to death Oct 7, 2023.

RonB just wants America dead.

Horny kids in Gaza found a way to get their virgins sooner:

  Invade the obnoxiously loud, all night rave on the other side of the fence.

Shani Louk was probably raped to death Oct 7, 2023.
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        GNU_You  1792582d18f9f0ff$234$456251$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      DFS  26y%M.47887$rEF.43319@fx47.iad
    rBowman  kq8fjtFdirfU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--4.53am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (200)  OK; 9 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 29 {  6:35pm, 2023 }:57  七鐕鱽
      Kids run free, like strays.

Kids run free, like strays.

More concerning: Tokyo has affordable housing, yet not Seattle.

Seattle should copy Tokyo.
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              Crump  ebnriit8p5jg14pbvs6lsinaifhtg238e0@4ax.com
            Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  653e7591$0$7524$426a74cc@news.free.fr
          AndyMatt  EPv%M.31004$3um9.16610@fx06.iad
        rBowman  kq7rtbF7gj7U8@mid.individual.net
      AndyMatt  Wvz%M.39770$4Oya.22741@fx43.iad
    rBowman  kq8e6aFdirfU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--4.42am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  (200)  OK; 9.4 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 29 {  6:11pm, 2023 }:38  七鐕雊
      Acquiring a harem of virgins.

Re: Acquiring a harem of virgins. 

Horny kids in Gaza found a way to get their virgins sooner:

  Invade the obnoxiously loud, all night rave on the other side of the fence.

-- If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
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              Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  653e7591$0$7524$426a74cc@news.free.fr
            AndyMatt  EPv%M.31004$3um9.16610@fx06.iad
          rBowman  kq7rtbF7gj7U8@mid.individual.net
        RonB  slrnujtg01.1lag.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
      rBowman  kq8bhvFc3mvU3@mid.individual.net
    RonB  slrnuju2bo.20s1.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--3.58am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 7  (254)  OK; 9 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Oct 29 {  6:40pm, 2023 }: 8  七鐕鵸
      If Israel were to lay down its arms.

If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
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      GNU_You  1792582d18f9f0ff$234$456251$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS  26y%M.47887$rEF.43319@fx47.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.29--2.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (193)  OK; 1.3 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 29 {  0:09pm, 2023 }:50^(-4)  七鐔鏾
      Politicians are the most self-centered when they claim to be helping us.

You (DFS) replied ( to GNU_You ):
> > 𝚃𝚑𝚎 𝚗𝚞𝚌𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚛 𝚏𝚊𝚖𝚒𝚕𝚢 𝚑𝚊𝚜 𝚋𝚎𝚎𝚗 [ undermined ]
> > 𝚜𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚕𝚎 𝚖𝚘𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛 𝚌𝚊𝚗 𝚎𝚗𝚓𝚘𝚢 𝚑𝚎𝚛 "𝚛𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝𝚜."  
> 
> More stupidity.
> The divorce rate nowadays is barely higher than in the 1940s.

In rich countries, where women are well educated,
the "fertility rate" is below 2.1 ( replacement level );
it's not a big deal, but it's not nothing.

> > 𝙲𝚛𝚒𝚖𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚛𝚊𝚖𝚙𝚊𝚗𝚝 𝚍𝚞𝚎 𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚞𝚙𝚙𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚘𝚏 𝚖𝚊𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚎 𝚊𝚞𝚝𝚑𝚘𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚢 
> > 𝚒𝚗 𝚍𝚎𝚏𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚗𝚌𝚎 𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚏𝚎𝚖𝚊𝚕𝚎 𝚙𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚙𝚎𝚌𝚝𝚒𝚟𝚎.  
> 
> What a pile of hooey.  
> Crime is rampant because of African DNA let loose in America.

Both wrong & insulting.
Parents, male & female, don't want anything to do with their kids;
so they form gangs, organize looting/prostitution/etc.

> > 𝙿𝚘𝚕𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚌𝚜 𝚑𝚊𝚜 𝚋𝚎𝚎𝚗 𝚛𝚎𝚍𝚞𝚌𝚎𝚍 𝚝𝚘 𝚊 𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚖𝚞𝚗𝚒𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 𝚌𝚑𝚊𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚢 𝚊𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎
> > 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚙𝚕𝚊𝚌𝚎𝚍 𝚖𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚗𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚜𝚖 𝚘𝚏 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚏𝚎𝚖𝚊𝚕𝚎 𝚙𝚘𝚕𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚌𝚒𝚊𝚗 𝚐𝚊𝚒𝚗𝚜 𝚊𝚜𝚌𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚗𝚌𝚢.
> 
> wtf?

Politicians are the most self-centered when they claim to be helping us.
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              FitFreak  ugg1n0$8qqr$1@solani.org
            DFS  krTWM.86025$2fS.48234@fx16.iad
          Crump  hploiilen0k6cg6f3d7efpokhp2ll9stl2@4ax.com
        DFS  71cXM.97699$2fS.64098@fx16.iad
      Crump  ebnriit8p5jg14pbvs6lsinaifhtg238e0@4ax.com
    Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  653e7591$0$7524$426a74cc@news.free.fr
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.29--9.28am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 7  (39)  OK; 1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Nnrp6-1.Free.FR➤Proxad.NET, 78.201.248.7,  Oct 29 {  8:09am, 2023 }: 5  七鐔宑
      Ugly but true.

Ugly but true:  

    Politicians are the most self-centered when they claim to be helping us.
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              ScottGNU  ugjm3c$1h205$1@dont-email.me
            ChrisV  v3criihkcu06vpjnsiqdahf8ojmap69202@4ax.com
          ScottGNU  ugkp61$2gvgs$1@dont-email.me
        ChrisV  bjtsiilonospcbb0gkla84v9cudrdvg059@4ax.com
      GNU_You  178efc00f4f5cf65$13532$1514748$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat-linux_fr  653e4f00$0$7769$426a74cc@news.free.fr
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.29--6.32am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (28)  OK; 39.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Nnrp3-1.Free.FR➤Proxad.NET, 78.201.248.7,  Oct 29 {  5:24am, 2023 }:32  七鐓蜀
      Cuba

You (CARPENTIER) replied ( to GNU_You ):
> > Only the "socialist" GNU/Linux/FreeBSD/FOSS can maintain
> > quality, freedom, and progress.
> 
> OK, I was wrong about it.  You can't avoid political garbage.

Where he lives, Cuba, it's mandatory; otherwise,
he won't get his $15 this month.
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              AndyMatt  GpN_M.15833$_z39.5032@fx34.iad
            RonB  slrnujo2t5.djlf.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
          DFS  B7V_M.24834$CIO.19332@fx01.iad
        FitFreak  uhhiar$pjrq$1@solani.org
      DFS  tAb%M.181770$0UVe.134176@fx17.iad
    FitFreak  uhk35m$qq75$3@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--4.15pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (115)  OK; 5.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Oct 28 {  3:49pm, 2023 }:25^(-5)  七鐑毵
      Egypt & Saudi Arabia reject Shiite Iran.

I'm constantly making fun of the NymShifting Polish "Feeb" who 
threatens us with "𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙼𝚊𝚏𝚒𝚊, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙺𝙶𝙱, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙰𝚛𝚢𝚊𝚗 𝙱𝚛𝚘𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚑𝚘𝚘𝚍,
𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚂𝚒𝚗𝚘𝚕𝚊 𝙲𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚎𝚕" if we don't _WORSHIP_ Richard Stallman.

I asked him why The Mandalorian & Grogu aren't part of his gang.
He ignores me.

FitFreak:
> your Iran-backed Biden administration.

Biden bombs anyone who associates with Iran & Russia.

Egypt & Saudi Arabia reject Shiite Iran.
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    Six_Six_Six_Beast│s3b@gnu_rocks  17924736cbac3841$9515$1512618$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--7.22am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 1.1 Hours, Fuck_You!, Usenetexpress.COM,  Oct 28 {  6:05am, 2023 }:10^(0)  七鐏蜆
      The Mandalorian & Grogu ?

GNU You informed us:
> 𝙸 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚌𝚘𝚗𝚝𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚜 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙼𝚊𝚏𝚒𝚊, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙺𝙶𝙱, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙰𝚛𝚢𝚊𝚗 𝙱𝚛𝚘𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚑𝚘𝚘𝚍,
> 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚂𝚒𝚗𝚘𝚕𝚊 𝙲𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚎𝚕. 

What about The Mandalorian & Grogu, aren't they coming too ?
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              DFS  ldU_M.222339$8fO.182409@fx15.iad
            Crump  k5dojihdqn5nqa2pptihshb91e1n6q2c2g@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.24pm.Seattle.2023
        Crump  85fojitddo79cnj0adsokfbaurp58fardj@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.47pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  vhkoji9rqbvd7ls42bgt5fm0voio0ulits@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--4.27am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (859)  OK; 10.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Oct 27 {  5:15pm, 2023 }:27^(-4)  七鐍皟
      How a _HOT_GREEN_ valley becomes a deadly furnace.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > Nothing is Greener than GreenHouse Earth.
> 
> I'm aware of climate change.

Lytton BC, 2021, is a good example of 
how a _HOT_GREEN_ valley becomes a deadly furnace.
Nothing is Greener than GreenHouse Earth.

> > Big Pharma lives off big lies.
> 
> They certainly turned doctors and pharmacies into opioid dealers,

In Seattle you can shoot heroine in front of (depressed) cops
while selling your body and breaking windows . . . no one cares.
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              AndyMatt  GMAZM.9272$3l%9.1065@fx02.iad
            Crump  tlndjiplpa6opc1ls847o81mng6ujubgr0@4ax.com
          DFS  ldU_M.222339$8fO.182409@fx15.iad
        Crump  k5dojihdqn5nqa2pptihshb91e1n6q2c2g@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.24pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  85fojitddo79cnj0adsokfbaurp58fardj@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.47pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (856)  OK; 6 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Oct 27 {  3:41pm, 2023 }:54^(-4)  七鐍悲
      Nothing is Greener than GreenHouse Earth.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > Every government/cult/person is based on a FatAss lie,
> > Crump is no exception.
> 
> Elaborate.

Global warming.
Nothing is Greener than GreenHouse Earth.

Big Pharma lives off big lies.
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              AndyMatt  3mAZM.97035$HwD9.7724@fx11.iad
            Crump  4sldji9c5gpb9v1ga5ccief7fd4rpjqqgq@4ax.com
          AndyMatt  GMAZM.9272$3l%9.1065@fx02.iad
        Crump  tlndjiplpa6opc1ls847o81mng6ujubgr0@4ax.com
      DFS  ldU_M.222339$8fO.182409@fx15.iad
    Crump  k5dojihdqn5nqa2pptihshb91e1n6q2c2g@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.24pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (855)  OK; 3.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Oct 27 {  3:10pm, 2023 }: 4^(-4)  七鐍夼
      Every government/cult/person is based on a FatAss lie.

Every government/cult/person is based on a FatAss lie,
Crump is no exception.
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    zZombie(%)  MPG.3fa4487840f1ca14989821@news.thecubenet.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--8.44am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Sixtyplus, Alt.Slack, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Penpals
    ╱ 1  (818)  OK; 33.3 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Thecubenet.COM,  Oct 26 {  7:57am, 2023 }:47^(-4)  七鐇蹫
      a danker wanker.

Re: A marijuana smoking tosser is a . . .

 . . . a danker wanker.
■
              DFS  USwYM.9184$igw9.4142@fx37.iad
            AndyMatt  z6xYM.140604$rbid.41541@fx18.iad
          FitFreak  ugv0sc$g6qj$2@solani.org
        MrGNU  17902966835205d8$8664$2221108$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      FitFreak  uh1loj$hcsa$2@solani.org
    zZombie(%)  1QadnZlfQdQ7_Kn4nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--11.42pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (821)  OK; 6.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct 21 {  4:41pm, 2023 }:25^(-7)  七鏴螥
      Lytton BC, 2021.

zZombie(%) replied:
> > > the VD is implemented by the manager
> > 
> > I wasn't talking about Venereal Diseases.
> 
> well you should've been

I wasn't talking about Lytton BC, 2021.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--6.18am.Seattle.2023
            BranimirMaksimovic  u%aYM.24466$xTV9.16380@fx39.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.48am.Seattle.2023
        BranimirMaksimovic  MZcYM.6516$n4d9.302@fx08.iad
      RonB  slrnuj2qe4.s83g.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.hitronhub.home
    zZombie(%)  VladnQI-eJ1j96z4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--9.19pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (822)  OK; 10.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct 19 { 10:44am, 2023 }:31^(-7)  七鏫狿
      180 $ for a carton of 8 ?

zZombie(%) wrote:
> i pay 180 for a carton of 8

What brand ? I don't believe you.
Marlboros Reds are 12 $/Pack here in Seattle.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--5.09pm.Seattle.2023
            BranimirMaksimovic  ir8YM.79221$0UVe.49750@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--6.18am.Seattle.2023
        BranimirMaksimovic  u%aYM.24466$xTV9.16380@fx39.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.48am.Seattle.2023
    BranimirMaksimovic  MZcYM.6516$n4d9.302@fx08.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--10.11am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (16) ify; 13.5 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Oct 19 {  9:40am, 2023 }:12  七鏫揬
      Hookers, drugs, 40 $ fast food deliveries.

Maksimovic wrote:
> > > I pay around 50 ¢/pack of 20 cigarettes.
> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/015oEG2ctEWh4RP34Nyg3r6qA#duvan

I smoke raspberry leaf joints/roaches ( tastes like lawn clippings );
that's it -- no tobacco, no skunk/weed.  Everything in _MODERATION_.
I get plenty of SecondHand smoke, skunk, from my neighbors.

My 45 yearold housemate makes about 33 $/hr when doing overtime, 
and he's been doing tons of it, eight days a week.

His rent is the same as mine, about 1100 $/month;
yet he never has significant savings; he spends whatever he makes.
Hookers, drugs, 40 $ fast food deliveries.

P.S. Who sleeps more, you or your dog ?
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            Cap_Allon│cag@gmaiil_com  ugpb5p$1ru0d$1@news.mixmin.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--5.09pm.Seattle.2023
        BranimirMaksimovic  ir8YM.79221$0UVe.49750@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--6.18am.Seattle.2023
    BranimirMaksimovic  u%aYM.24466$xTV9.16380@fx39.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.48am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (13) ify; 11.9 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Oct 19 {  7:25am, 2023 }:30  七鏪陚
      "Weak" tobacco ?

Maksimovic wrote:
> I smoke reak tobacco now. 

You mean "Weak" tobacco ?

> Price is 6 times lower then state selled chemicals. 
> So I pay around 50 ¢/pack of 20 cigarettes.

God bless Serbia !

Do you think Ukraine started the war ? I don't see it.
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        Cap_Allon│cag@gmaiil_com  ugpb5p$1ru0d$1@news.mixmin.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--5.09pm.Seattle.2023
    BranimirMaksimovic  ir8YM.79221$0UVe.49750@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--6.18am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (10) ify; 43.9 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Oct 19 {  4:30am, 2023 }:22  七鏪济
      You can legally send me 2 cartons of cigarettes, right ?

Maksimovic asked me:
> You still think that British tobacco is better then USA tobacco? :P

British tobacco is a nice change of pace; Indonesian too.

Washington state won't let me buy cigarettes online;
one must show up at a physical store to buy it.
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    Cap_Allon│cag@gmaiil_com  ugpb5p$1ru0d$1@news.mixmin.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--5.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 3.9 Hours, Mime_1_0, Mixmin.NET,  Oct 18 {  0:20pm, 2023 }:26  七鏧翺
      Tobacco, tequila & bullets.

A _CONFUSED_ man wrote:
> Ban all tobacco, alcohol and drug purchases on EBT cards.  

Satire:

  First thing I do, when I wake up in the morning, 
  I use my EBT card to purchase cocaine ( for me, my crack whore & our kids );
  then I use it to buy tobacco, tequila & bullets.
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              AndyMatt  o2RXM.57588$sxoa.39389@fx13.iad
            Crump  i0qvii5upq496rdigtasposmomrd2fc0f5@4ax.com
          AndyMatt  ixSXM.25724$Ssze.23057@fx48.iad
        Crump  7200jip16a1vjdno8gpvockcfre73huie2@4ax.com
      AndyMatt  PsTXM.40042$MJ59.17641@fx10.iad
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  agWXM.8916$igw9.1708@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--5.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (4) ify; 3.9 Hours, slrn➤openMac, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Oct 18 {  0:22pm, 2023 }:46  七鏧肆
      linkedin.com/in/branimir

This link doesn't properly work, it takes me to _my_ feed:

  https://www.linkedin.com/in/branimir-maksimovic-6762bbaa/M
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--3.16am.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  43SWM.14957$Pb89.5721@fx36.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.42pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  OE9XM.63983$8fO.12561@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--5.44am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  9ycXM.53916$HwD9.15323@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--0.28pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (294)  OK; 4 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 16 {  8:21am, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七鏞蜄
      Her new husband adopted "my" children, at my request.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > Prior to the pandemic, I had two _FANTASTIC_ income streams.
> > It's even better now, and in some ways,
> > but I might run out of money before I die.
> 
> Don't you want to leave something for your children? Or did you disown them?

Her new husband adopted "my" children, at my request.
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          MrGNU  178dfce3f6de2fce$2903$1033785$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
        DFS  oFzWM.8347$igw9.2319@fx37.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS  sGbXM.97694$2fS.90136@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--0.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (110)  OK; 4.8 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 16 {  7:22am, 2023 }:22^(-4)  七鏞礞
      TLI.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > If I drink 3 quarts of milk in 24 hours . . . yikes !,
> > I'll need Pepto-Bismol ( to harden the stool ).
> 
> TMI.

TLI.  _Whole_ milk does that, not 2 %.

I only need enough Pepto-Bismol to coat my tongue & teeth once;
I'm not swallowing it.

Why that should work so well, I have no idea;
people were doing it thousands of years ago.

Eating more bland fiber is the more natural solution.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  ugg1n0$8qqr$1@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--3.16am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  43SWM.14957$Pb89.5721@fx36.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.42pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  OE9XM.63983$8fO.12561@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--5.44am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (293)  OK; 34.5 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 16 {  5:03am, 2023 }:58^(-4)  七鏞墮
      Prior to the pandemic, I had two _FANTASTIC_ income streams.

You (AndyMatt):
> having a continuous flow of money could have benefited you somewhat.

Prior to the pandemic, I had two _FANTASTIC_ income streams.

It's even better now, and in some ways, 
but I might run out of money before I die.
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          Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f962a06268c3c6098975a@news.eternal-september.org
        zZombie(%)  nbmdneJxarTv_rH4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com
      Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f96314ca448a2fd98975c@news.eternal-september.org
    zZombie(%)  uLqcnbmhFZ-V9bH4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--7.15pm.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop
    ╱ 4  (865)  OK; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct 15 {  3:30pm, 2023 }:31^(-7)  七鏛逇
      How much do they cost per month ?

Keppi wrote:
> > > > Her husband hasn't a clue.

He doesn't give a sh*t, you're nothing to him.

zZombie(%) wrote:
> she can't be worse than the pair of wolverines i've been boning lately.

How young are they ?
Do they speak English ?
How much do they cost per month ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  ugfclc$8ha7$2@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ugg1n0$8qqr$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--3.16am.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ughi2a$9jic$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.56pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (83)  OK; 5 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Oct 15 {  1:28pm, 2023 }:59^(-5)  七鏛王
      Isolated Iran exists because it hides in the mountains.

Imperialist America exists because no one could stop them.

Isolated Iran exists because it hides in the mountains.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  ugfclc$8ha7$2@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ugg1n0$8qqr$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--3.16am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  43SWM.14957$Pb89.5721@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.42pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (293)  OK; 11.7 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 15 {  6:46am, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七鏚杀
      Money lost its allure, I was free.

You (AndyMatt) should already know why I don't care about money anymore.

Spring of 1988, Provo, my wife told me that she had been 
engaged in an affair for a year and was going to marry him;
all three of us worked for the same company.

Ironically, they met at the volleyball games that _I_ organized.
I cried at the loss of "my" kids, she cried at the loss of "my" money.

So money lost its allure, I was free.
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              MrGNU  178dfce3f6de2fce$2903$1033785$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
            DFS  oFzWM.8347$igw9.2319@fx37.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ugfclc$8ha7$2@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ugg1n0$8qqr$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--3.16am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (82)  OK; 3.3 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Oct 14 { 11:43pm, 2023 }:45^(-5)  七鏙嘡
      "Brigham Young University" ( BYU, Provo Utah ).

I started "Brigham Young University" ( BYU, Provo Utah ) 
in the spring of 1981, after completing a Mormon mission in Brazil;
I completed a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science by the end of 1982.

My wife & baby attended my graduation ceremony spring of 1983.
Fall of 1983, I was making over 30 thousand $/year.
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          MrGNU  178dfce3f6de2fce$2903$1033785$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
        DFS  oFzWM.8347$igw9.2319@fx37.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ugfclc$8ha7$2@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--7.43pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (81)  OK; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, Solani.ORG,  Oct 14 {  5:44pm, 2023 }:28^(-5)  七鏘召
      Babylon remains SNAFU.

FitFreak wrote:
> the exhilarating [sic] news of Semites killing each other

Millennia after millennia, Babylon remains SNAFU;
if you're 50+ % Hamas, Israel will lay you flat.
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      MrGNU  178dfce3f6de2fce$2903$1033785$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS  oFzWM.8347$igw9.2319@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (99)  OK; 6.8 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 14 {  9:50am, 2023 }:32^(-4)  七鏖裘
      3 quarts of milk in 24 hours !

> munching on Hampton Farms perfectly crunchy, salted, 
> roasted peanuts in the shell

Downing Honey Roasted Cheerios in ( shelf stable ) whole milk.

Little packets of Ritz Garlic Butter Crackers.

( shelf stable ) Summer sausage.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bridgford-Summer-Sausage-16-Oz/15914143

If I drink 3 quarts of milk in 24 hours . . . yikes !,
I'll need Pepto-Bismol ( to harden the stool ).
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          AndyMatt  dnhVM.3373$rEF.1086@fx47.iad
        DFS  9hwVM.14942$Pb89.12314@fx36.iad
      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  ug6i5v$1rvp1$2@dont-email.me
    DFS  zd_VM.47154$HwD9.21290@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--4.29pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (90)  OK; 41.5 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 12 {  3:14pm, 2023 }:55^(-4)  七鏏濟
      slrn Stable: 1.0.3a, 24 October 2016

> Last I checked, slrn still wasn't at v1.0, after 18-20 years of development.

slrn v1.0.0 was released Dec 21, 2012,
18 years after the first release.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slrn
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          .  kHwVM.75628$2fS.33532@fx16.iad
        Tyrone│none@none_none  Km-dnZq4ooWM7rr4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--10.10pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS  Et_VM.47156$HwD9.31531@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--4.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 8  (90)  OK; 24.4 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 12 {  3:32pm, 2023 }: 4^(-4)  七鏏珤
      YouTube has 18 thousand years of video & 3 billion active users.

Only USENET will do if you need to be honest about George Floyd.

But, then, you might need Regex/slrn/UTF-8 filtering.
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      .  kHwVM.75628$2fS.33532@fx16.iad
    Tyrone│none@none_none  Km-dnZq4ooWM7rr4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--10.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 32.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Thunder, Supernews.COM,  Oct 11 {  9:16pm, 2023 }:17^(-4)  七鏌椑
      YouTube has 18 thousand years of video & 3 billion active users.

YouTube has 18 thousand years of video & 3 billion active users.

I comment on the videos, occasionally arguing.

Censorship & Spam is quite tolerable there.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--5.54pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  9rceii964etlq3gt7hgsuth3nmqnbovs7s@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--9.45pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 4.7 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Oct 11 {  4:45pm, 2023 }:23^(-5)  七鏋箓
      Sawdust, Paper & Poop.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > Babylon has been reduced to rubble for 3+ thousand years now;
> > give it another 6+ thousand years, see what happens.
> 
> I went to The Container Store the other day,
> saw The Vittles Vault & thought of you.

If you're going to keep Hamas up all night
-- with your sex, drugs & electronic dance music 
-- and you'd rather not be slaughtered today 
-- it helps to separate out your "graywater" (piss) 
from your Sawdust, Paper & Poop.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--5.54pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Babylon

Babylon has been reduced to rubble for 3+ thousand years now;
give it another 6+ thousand years, see what happens.
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              Crump  ihv8ii57aq6d9d664h44hfjif7312282vm@4ax.com
            Schadenfreude  a109iit40cl52oem0noeg10jbonduvjdko@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
          Crump  2r19ii5d2rkpq3tsc28q7dhmqpob7o9f9r@4ax.com
        Schadenfreude  6jbaiite21pkcbeh7rg9s8fe5qghu49aaa@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
      Crump  ncmaii15fk4tieqcj4njl4k6aakqgtufs6@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  xJOdnVcqp5QXErj4nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--1.15pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Flame, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 11  (810)  OK; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct 10 { 10:53am, 2023 }:13^(-7)  七鏆熉
      TripleGay CisPhobe.

You (zZombie) replied ( to Crump ): 
> > You're a phobe.
>  
> a double dog phobe

a TripleGay CisPhobe . . . bless his soul.
■
              Crump  fhu8ii1t63dm8voqoc13opsj8jrk4ph3k0@4ax.com
            Schadenfreude  q4v8iipm7mbjecmjcfbcsnuk7vqck5c1t2@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
          Crump  ihv8ii57aq6d9d664h44hfjif7312282vm@4ax.com
        Schadenfreude  a109iit40cl52oem0noeg10jbonduvjdko@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
      Crump  2r19ii5d2rkpq3tsc28q7dhmqpob7o9f9r@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  Mr-dnatvc_gwEbn4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--4.46pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Flame, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╳ 1  (800)  OK; 7.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct  9 {  4:28pm, 2023 }:44^(-7)  七鏃撬
      HighHeel wearing, PurseClutching phobes . . . No exceptions.

You (zZombie) replied ( to Crump ):
> > They're [rapists], through and through - you keep ignoring *that*.
> 
> they're phobes

HighHeel wearing, PurseClutching phobes . . . No exceptions.
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              rBowman  koefqnFi25mU2@mid.individual.net
            RonB  uful81$36mit$1@dont-email.me
          rBowman  kog9amFs019U1@mid.individual.net
        RonB  ug17mc$5jb$1@dont-email.me
      rBowman  koj3afFcqr1U1@mid.individual.net
    MrGNU  178c898eeb128ec9$7106$3759573$565a1016@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--2.51pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (8) ify; 1.5 Hours, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Oct  9 {  1:13pm, 2023 }:26^(0)  七鏂裦
      Incel, Tell us about all those kids you have.

> -- Diego Garcia, Every woman's dream, Every man's nightmare.

Tell us about all those kids you have, Incel.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
            HughHuntzinger  6ac96159-ceaf-43e6-a556-0d8684dc59f7n@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.58pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS  BlkUM.25846$tnmf.8128@fx09.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--5.44pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS  QNzUM.8713$%WT8.3812@fx12.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--3.27pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (82)  OK; 6.3 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct  8 {  8:21am, 2023 }:25^(-4)  七鎽賵
      Been there, Done that.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > the pandemic left me bedridden.
> 
> No it didn't - your gluttony and nicotine addiction did that.

I smoke raspberry leaf joints/roaches ( tastes like lawn clippings );
that's it -- no tobacco, no skunk/weed.  Everything in _MODERATION_.
I get plenty of SecondHand smoke, skunk, from my neighbors.

My inability to do simple exercise might be due to cancer, heart damage, covid,
 . . . or simply because I'm in bed most of the time ( no physical therapy ),
like one of those little white cave creatures that lost their ability to see.

> Get up out of bed, man!  wtf?  Nobody can stop you from committing slow 
> suicide, but you're way too young to be rotting away in bed all day.

I _LOVE_ my life as it is; that's why I haven't tried physical therapy.

> Don't you remember how good it felt to exercise hard ?

Been there, Done that.   Far more than you, I'm sure.

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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--2.40am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  %FxUM.22956$rbid.15571@fx18.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--3.13pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (286)  OK; 8.7 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct  8 {  5:56am, 2023 }:26^(-4)  七鎽櫺
      Before the pandemic I had two _NICE_ SeattleStyle jobs.

Before the pandemic I had two _NICE_ SeattleStyle jobs;
then I lost the jobs and became (mostly) bedridden.

Jan 1960, I was born into a house close to where I am now;
lots of good memories, a very beautiful area 
( Ravenna Park, University of Washington, Green Lake, etc. ).

My dad was 35 years old when I was born;
all four of my grandparents were born into Seattle ( ~1890 ).

Seattle has more/better services, including free housing.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--2.40am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Seattle is expensive like an Ed Sheeran concert.

Seattle is expensive like an Ed Sheeran concert.

A 200 $/month, 100 SqFt room ( in shared housing ) I saw in downtown Tokyo
would rent for a thousand $/month in Seattle . . . despite no sink,
no kitchen area, no built-in cabinets & no toilet nor bath.

2.25 million people live in Seattle's (King) County;
yet it only hears 3 eviction cases/day, 4 days per week,
thanks to automatic, 3.5 month deferrals;
apparently, the court won't be sullied by such _TRIVIAL_ matters.

Watching squatters (violently) trying to evict fellow squatters 
is more entertaining than any concert ever was.

They enjoy violent Bike/Car/Camera theft too, when not shoplifting;
again, the court won't be sullied by such _TRIVIAL_ matters.

Meanwhile, Putin is doing the Amish thing.
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              .  ufkdk2$2q99$7@gallifrey.nk.ca
            zZombie(%)  MPG.3f8ad8136e39ce3d9897e3@news.thecubenet.com
          doctor@doctor_nl2k_ab_ca(The_Doctor  ufrng8$1as7$19@gallifrey.nk.ca
        zZombie(%)  jCSdnfGON6kSI7z4nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com
      doctor@doctor_nl2k_ab_ca(The_Doctor  ufsrta$1kht$5@gallifrey.nk.ca
    zZombie(%)  YpqcnXxOVMCDtb_4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--11.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Edm.General
    ╱ 2  (850)  OK; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct  7 {  8:55pm, 2023 }: 9^(-7)  七鎻逝
      Like a 24/7 Ed Sheeran concert, Seattle is expensive.

Someone thinks:
> Vancouver BC is the best place to live again this year, yay

Vancouver is the happiest place on earth, 
if you can afford the 7 C$ ( 5 $ ) beers;
in Seattle, you'd pay 9 $ for that same pint.

Seattle is expensive like an Ed Sheeran concert.
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              slothe│slothe@netcom_com  ufo3rj$24h3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com
            Crump  85uvhitj8g2othbqhluqojt3ofidj5lfdd@4ax.com
          pandora│pandora@peak_org  Q1SdnTmrUdq3qr34nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
        Crump  trf0ii58139b2fbd2hdsltalheqhrjo1nd@4ax.com
      pandora│pandora@peak_org  QCGdnSkQN6MbRbz4nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com
    zZombie(%)  ecqdnQbalN6zQLz4nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--7.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  (845)  OK; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Oct  7 {  3:35pm, 2023 }:24^(-7)  七鎺霬
      Crump is a phobe phobe.

Crump is a phobe phobe;
i.e. He's afraid of those who are afraid.
■
    DFS  L1kUM.25840$tnmf.20447@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--6.19pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct  7 {  2:26pm, 2023 }: 6^(-4)  七鎺蛮
      To Downgrade FireFox & keep profile:

I don't know about Thunderbird but . . .
To Downgrade FireFox & keep your profile:

  uninstall Firefox, Reboot, install, Reboot, 

  pass "FireFox.EXE -p --allow-downgrade" upon _initial_ launch.
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              zZombie(%)  OLqcnWzf3ow2S2b5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
            HughHuntzinger  2f57743f-8a92-43fb-a487-6b544b95eb4bn@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
        HughHuntzinger  6ac96159-ceaf-43e6-a556-0d8684dc59f7n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.58pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS  BlkUM.25846$tnmf.8128@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--5.44pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  (76)  OK; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Thunder, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct  7 {  2:47pm, 2023 }:16^(-4)  七鎺诤
      Doing the Amish thing.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > If I end up living too long, I might have to switch to public housing...
> > or join the ( up-and-coming ) tent community like a _real_ trendsetter.
> 
> Couldn't you get programming contracts?

I'm too old for that; the pandemic left me bedridden.
My brother would give me money.

> > Bread is 4.69 $ a loaf.  Gas is 5.25 $/gallon, same as last week.
> > Rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.
> 
> ALDI's LowCarb White bread is 50 ¢.
> Stone Mountain GA Gas is 3.25 $/gallon, 87 octane.

Seattle is like a football stadium;
rent is high & local prices are outrageous.

When squatters aren't shoplifting, they enjoy violent Bike/Car/Camera theft;
the city won't do anything about it; such trivialities are _BENEATH_ them.
Meanwhile, Putin, RonB, rBowman & AndyMatt are  Doing the Amish thing.
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    Diego_Garcia│dg@gnu_rocks  178bd28adf5c76d2$3376$3759573$565a1016@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--1.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 7.9 Hours, Newspost, Usenetexpress.COM,  Oct  7 {  5:19am, 2023 }:38^(0)  七鎹壚
      Garcia, How many kids do you have ?

Garcia:
> 𝙳𝚒𝚎𝚐𝚘 𝙶𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚒𝚊   𝙴𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢 𝚠𝚘𝚖𝚊𝚗'𝚜 𝚍𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖.  𝙴𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢 𝚖𝚊𝚗'𝚜 𝚗𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝𝚖𝚊𝚛𝚎.

How many kids do you have, Garcia ?
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            .  708934e1-5970-4d99-a225-41b13dcb76f6n@googlegroups.com
          Schadenfreude  6m4uhiloihpqlncgalip0qo1kn8pgnjugc@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
        slothe│slothe@netcom_com  ufo3rj$24h3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com
      Crump  85uvhitj8g2othbqhluqojt3ofidj5lfdd@4ax.com
    pandora│pandora@peak_org  Q1SdnTmrUdq3qr34nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--7.37pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (28)  OK; 9.6 Hours, Pan, Supernews.COM,  Oct  6 {  9:34am, 2023 }:50^(0)  七鎵謪
      Free Plastic Surgery.

Despite the risk, long lines of low-income Brazilians form every year 
outside of hospitals eager to apply for free ( or discounted ) plastic surgery.

Once approved, individuals may wait several months, or even years,
before undergoing their procedure.

Globally, 2021, Liposuction (15.5%), breast augmentation (14.1%), 
abdominoplasty (10.4%), as well as eyelid surgery and buttocks augmentation,
were the most popular.
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            AndyMatt  0pzSM.294299$GHI6.137251@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--8.18am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  kVBSM.58612$2_m.7361@fx38.iad
      HughHuntzinger  64188edd-7cc0-435f-9ca4-509145cb4e8bn@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--5.38am.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.4--11.26pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (110)  OK; 24.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Oct  3 {  5:02am, 2023 }:59^(PDT)  七鎨胳
      Putin is doing the Amish thing.

Re:  It's a lukewarm war, nothing much happens.

Putin is doing the Amish thing.
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          AndyMatt  0pzSM.294299$GHI6.137251@fx17.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--8.18am.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  kVBSM.58612$2_m.7361@fx38.iad
    HughHuntzinger  64188edd-7cc0-435f-9ca4-509145cb4e8bn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--5.38am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (110)  OK; 24.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Oct  3 {  5:02am, 2023 }:59^(PDT)  七鎨胳
      It's a lukewarm war, nothing much happens.

Huntzinger:
> Probably the hardest part for NATO in a total war scenario would be to 
> take out all of Russia's boomer subs without allowing any of them even 
> the chance to launch anything, by sinking them all within ~15 minutes 
> of each other.

It's a lukewarm war, nothing much happens.
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          AndyMatt  0pzSM.294299$GHI6.137251@fx17.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--8.18am.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  kVBSM.58612$2_m.7361@fx38.iad
    RonB  uffn6f$36ldk$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--6.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (179)  OK; 34.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Oct  2 {  5:27pm, 2023 }:59  七鎦舏
      Nobody can afford walls anymore.

It is well known that Russia illegally squatted in Crimea
the same way criminals squat in Seattle.
Why ? Because nobody can afford walls anymore.

The mass torture & mass graves are well documented.
What Russia did to the Crimean Tatars, 1783, repeats today.
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    AndyMatt  0pzSM.294299$GHI6.137251@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--8.18am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (234)  OK; 1.6 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct  2 {  6:16am, 2023 }:44^(-4)  七鎤袼
      Shooting Putin in the head would be the lesser evil.

Re: The average age of Ukraine's front-line soldiers is 40+.
    Former UK defense secretary Ben Wallace says Zelensky
    _SHOULD_ throw more & younger Ukrainians into battle.
    
Shooting Putin in the head would be the lesser evil, in my opinion.

When the sh*t hits the fan, as it has now, globally, 
dictators arise but, eventually, the high wears off.

Xi's MandateFromHell* follows Kim JongUn into the abyss
( *:  China's "Mandate of Heaven" adage, circa 1000 BC ).

Russia illegally squats in Crimea & ethnically cleanses it using
mass torture & mass graves, same as it did to the Crimean Tatars, 1783.

Lucky for Russia, America can't afford to erect walls; so
squat wherever/whenever you'd like . . . Portland is nice too.
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              zZombie(%)  ZJacnRROaKZZOI74nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
            FitFreak  uf2ijk$miki$2@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.00pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ufd654$rlei$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.1--8.12pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ufde23$rlei$5@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.1--9.45pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (79)  OK; 24.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Oct  1 {  8:39pm, 2023 }:48^(-5)  七鎣厄
      FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again.

Re:  FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again.

I don't post via Google Groups, so it doesn't know me;
I'm not allowed to delete anything.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  uf04fa$l9tq$1@solani.org
          zZombie(%)  ZJacnRROaKZZOI74nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
        FitFreak  uf2ijk$miki$2@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.00pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ufd654$rlei$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.1--8.12pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (78)  OK; 1.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Oct  1 {  6:24pm, 2023 }:54^(-5)  七鎢藦
      FitFreak keeps doxing himself, over and over again.

You (FitFreak) keep doxing yourself, over and over again,
by continuely quoting me quoting Hanson.

How do I delete a post on Google Groups ?

From what I've read ( in "Sci.Physics", 2016 ), you're on welfare;
therefore, you're _NOT_ in a position to sue anybody.
And if you did, I'd know even more about you.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.00pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  uf9qr1$q47i$1@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--2.11pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ufa3pt$q47i$8@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--2.47pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ufa77d$q47i$10@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--5.46pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (67)  OK; 2.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 30 {  3:24pm, 2023 }:45^(-5)  七鎞刭
      You asked Google to _NOT_INDEX_ the offending post.

You asked Google to _NOT_INDEX_ the offending post, right ?

Reading around, I stumbled across your name & address; 
so I copied the information, and asked you if it was correct.

I don't recall when that post was made or how, exactly, I found it.

HaHaHanson, the incoherent, obnoxiously _GAY_ man, is probably dead now.
Archimedes Plutonium publishes a swamp of impenetrable randomness every day.

How are you going to afford a lawyer to prosecute me 
when you can't even afford a 21st-century desktop computer ?

Is this just you hating White Tatars again ?
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              zZombie(%)  ZJacnRROaKZZOI74nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
            FitFreak  uf2ijk$miki$2@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.00pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  uf9qr1$q47i$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--2.11pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ufa3pt$q47i$8@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--2.47pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (65)  OK; 15.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 30 {  2:26pm, 2023 }:21^(-5)  七鎝陽
      HaHaHanson & Archimedes Plutonium.

You (FitFreak) replied ( to me ):
> > ClutterFreak & HaHaHanson, Apr 14, 2016:
> > https://groups.google.com/g/Sci.Physics/search?q=+++ClutterFreak+++BEFORE:2016-04-15&sortBy=DATE
> 
> Do you have a copy of Hanson's full message itself? Could you attach it 
> to an email and send it to me (physfitfreak@gmail.com).

For security reasons, I think one can't just search for it;
to find it, I'd have to comb through _TONS_ of posts from
HaHaHanson & Archimedes Plutonium . . . too tedious for me.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  uf04fa$l9tq$1@solani.org
          zZombie(%)  ZJacnRROaKZZOI74nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
        FitFreak  uf2ijk$miki$2@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.00pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uf9qr1$q47i$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--2.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (63)  OK; 38.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 30 { 11:53am, 2023 }:24^(-5)  七鎝犤
      ClutterFreak & Hanson, Apr 14, 2016.

I can't find a link to this ( from HaHaHanson & Archimedes Plutonium ):
> "Mehram Maleki" Age 69 (Sep 1954),
> 1365 Blackberry Ln Grand Prairie, TX 75050

Google groups blocks it, I assume.

ClutterFreak & HaHaHanson, Apr 14, 2016:

  https://groups.google.com/g/Sci.Physics/search?q=+++ClutterFreak+++BEFORE:2016-04-15&sortBy=DATE
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--5.34pm.Seattle.2023
            FitFreak  uf5lhd$o0g4$3@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--6.26am.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  uf7u3i$p4uu$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--7.05pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uf83to$p815$2@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--8.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (56)  OK; 5.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 29 {  8:16pm, 2023 }: 7^(-5)  七鎚賷
      You're not a fan of White people (Tatars), right ?

FitFreak wrote:
> I didn't come to this country to sue people. If I wanted, I'd be still 
> getting compensation from the doctor who fucked up my thyroid in 1985.

I know you like coffee, What did he do to your thyroid ?

Would you return to Iran, if you could ?

You're not a fan of White people (Tatars), right ?
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            FitFreak  uf5591$no5l$5@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--5.34pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  uf5lhd$o0g4$3@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--6.26am.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uf7u3i$p4uu$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--7.05pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (54)  OK; 1.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 29 {  6:36pm, 2023 }:50^(-5)  七鎚疲
      HaHaHanson was genuinely gay.

You (FitFreak) asked me:
> I need an explanation from you for the reason behind doxing me. 

I didn't "dox" you, I just quoted you & HaHaHanson;
I assumed he was talking garbage, but now I'm thinking he wasn't.
Projecting, he continually called me an "Anal Vacuumist".
    ------
If I were burdened with your borked PC,
I'd buy the latest and greatest motherboard.

But you could buy a used video card, 
see if it works with a brand-new displayPort ( or HDMI ) cable.

Your monitor might be bad.
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              rBowman  knk61vF6jg7U7@mid.individual.net
            RonB  uf4aka$3ov38$7@dont-email.me
          HughHuntzinger  f3c605ba-af23-4fda-9c69-dc86704d488fn@googlegroups.com
        rBowman  knolk3Ftc25U4@mid.individual.net
      HughHuntzinger  eac31934-41f3-48de-8e09-e613ed404760n@googlegroups.com
    rBowman  knpbfdF2eqiU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--6.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (150)  OK; 6 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 29 {  6:20pm, 2023 }:46  七鎚燮
      Putin, Kim JongUn & Xi are falling into the abyss.

Putin, Kim JongUn & Xi are falling into the abyss.

"We don't need no stinky rent receipts", I imagine them saying. 
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              RonB  uf4aka$3ov38$7@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  f3c605ba-af23-4fda-9c69-dc86704d488fn@googlegroups.com
          rBowman  knolk3Ftc25U4@mid.individual.net
        HughHuntzinger  eac31934-41f3-48de-8e09-e613ed404760n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--4.55pm.Seattle.2023
    HughHuntzinger  88cbed2f-31e4-45c5-a605-862b6422064fn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--5.50pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (99)  OK; 26.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 114.160.193.178,  Sep 29 {  5:05pm, 2023 }:42^(PDT)  七鎚恖
      Squatting & Shooting.

Putin & Xi blame America for their failures;
but no one under 30 buys it.

Putin should've just rented Crimea from Ukraine,
instead of Squatting & Shooting, as a homeless gangster would.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.26am.Seattle.2023
            rBowman  knk61vF6jg7U7@mid.individual.net
          RonB  uf4aka$3ov38$7@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  f3c605ba-af23-4fda-9c69-dc86704d488fn@googlegroups.com
      rBowman  knolk3Ftc25U4@mid.individual.net
    HughHuntzinger  eac31934-41f3-48de-8e09-e613ed404760n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--4.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (98)  OK; 36.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 114.160.193.178,  Sep 29 {  4:10pm, 2023 }:25^(PDT)  七鎚卡
      Russia, the top wheat exporter, equals Canada & America combined.

Huntzinger:
> Do exports.

"Top 20 Largest Wheat Exporters in the World"
By Rob Cook, Sep 25, 2023, mentions:

  https://inetsgi.com/images/668/images/008f378c.png

Russia, the top wheat exporter, equals Canada & America combined.
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              RonB  uf45nu$3o55v$1@dont-email.me
            rBowman  knml71Fj9n1U6@mid.individual.net
          RonB  uf668s$74b9$3@dont-email.me
        AndyMatt  q2CRM.310854$%uv8.206049@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--8.53am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  KTCRM.67209$fUu6.19993@fx47.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--11.04am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (232)  OK; 1.2 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 29 {  9:25am, 2023 }:14^(-4)  七鎘顪
      Xi's MandateFromHell follows Kim JongUn into the abyss

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > Once cruise missiles bankrupt Putin, he & Xi will vanish.
> 
> Wishful thinking.

Xi's MandateFromHell follows Kim JongUn into the abyss
( China's "Mandate of Heaven" adage is circa 1000 BC).
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              RonB  uf2cag$3atv9$1@dont-email.me
            AndyMatt  W53RM.215029$GHI6.71317@fx17.iad
          RonB  uf45nu$3o55v$1@dont-email.me
        rBowman  knml71Fj9n1U6@mid.individual.net
      RonB  uf668s$74b9$3@dont-email.me
    AndyMatt  q2CRM.310854$%uv8.206049@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--8.53am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (230)  OK; 10.5 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 29 {  8:28am, 2023 }:22^(-4)  七鎘謖
      Once cruise missiles bankrupt Putin, he & Xi will vanish.

Once cruise missiles bankrupt Putin, he & Xi will vanish.
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        FitFreak  uf5591$no5l$5@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--5.34pm.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  uf5lhd$o0g4$3@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--6.26am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Bugs.Misc
    ╱ 1  (51)  OK; 8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 28 {  9:58pm, 2023 }:20^(-5)  七鎖魬
      Pull out your AK-47, aim for the center of the board & fire.

FitFreak asked me:
> What is a "shot" motherboard ?

If your motherboard proper doesn't have an HTML port . . .
Pull out your AK-47, aim for the center of the board & fire.

> I could buy a DVI to usb, or DVI to VGA cable and see 
> if that resolves the issue, if it is the graphics card that's going bad.

No, you need a new motherboard,
one that accepts M.2 NVMe memory cards.

If you can't afford it, there are places that recycle/refurbish old PCs.
مع السلامة
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              AndyMatt  ZAeRM.51034$fUu6.31236@fx47.iad
            RonB  uf46cp$3oajn$1@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  DEhRM.202434$Hih7.82285@fx11.iad
        RonB  uf4cd7$3pdlv$2@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  tblRM.307437$%uv8.240141@fx15.iad
    rBowman  knml29Fj9n1U5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--6.03pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (134)  OK; 23 Secs, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 28 {  5:46pm, 2023 }: 2  七鎖恊
      By their deeds ye shall know them.

rBowman wrote:
> the Orthodox church is better off than 95% 
> of what passes for Christianity in the West. 

Matthew 7:20, King James Version:

    By their [deeds] ye shall know them.

Russia illegally squats in Crimea & ethnically cleanses it using
mass torture & mass graves, same as it did to the Crimean Tatars, 1783.

Lucky for Russia, America can't afford to erect walls; so
squat wherever/whenever you'd like . . . Portland is nice too:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1701976144516452823
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    FitFreak  uf5591$no5l$5@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--5.34pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Bugs.Misc
    ╱ 1  (47)  OK; 1.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 28 {  5:20pm, 2023 }:49^(-5)  七鎖婡
      Your motherboard is shot.

Likely, your motherboard is shot.

You can connect your monitor to your motherboard and/or your graphics card.
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              AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
          rBowman  kniti1Fas5U5@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.26am.Seattle.2023
      rBowman  knk61vF6jg7U7@mid.individual.net
    RonB  uf4aka$3ov38$7@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--11.09am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (144)  OK; 3.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 28 {  9:46am, 2023 }: 2  七鎔鏊
      Squat wherever/whenever you'd like.

RonB wrote:
> Russian culture in eastern Ukraine [ is to be ] respected 
> so that they gain a certain amount of autonomy to . . .

 . . . squat in Crimea & ethnically cleanse it using
mass torture & mass graves, same as it did to the Crimean Tatars, 1783.

Lucky for them, America can't afford to erect walls anywhere;
squat wherever/whenever you'd like . . . I hear Seattle is nice.
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              AndyMatt  Yu_QM.20303$hC28.14215@fx01.iad
            rBowman  knk40gF6jg7U4@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  hCeRM.51035$fUu6.37354@fx47.iad
        rBowman  knlev1FdckvU2@mid.individual.net
      AndyMatt  uCgRM.51580$fUu6.9477@fx47.iad
    RonB  uf49cf$3ov38$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--9.47am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (139)  OK; 4.8 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 28 {  9:24am, 2023 }:47  七鎔軏
      Sieg Heil, mein Führer, Kim JongUn !

AndyMatt, RonB, Putin & Xi all shout:  Sieg Heil, mein Führer, Kim JongUn !

Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; division is inevitable.
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              ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  kniti1Fas5U5@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.26am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  knk61vF6jg7U7@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.08pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (127)  OK; 43 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 27 {  7:17pm, 2023 }:35  七鎒氿
      More leg room, less claustrophobia.

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > Putin would take Poland/America in a New York minute, if he could.
> 
> What the flying fuck would he want with either ?

More leg room, less claustrophobia. 
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              DFS  KTBQM.47726$2XR1.4441@fx43.iad
            FitFreak  uevrdk$l5jk$4@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  uf04fa$l9tq$1@solani.org
      zZombie(%)  ZJacnRROaKZZOI74nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
    FitFreak  uf2ijk$miki$2@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.00pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (42)  OK; 31.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 27 {  5:49pm, 2023 }:56^(-5)  七鎒垴
      ClutterFreak, Are you "Mehram Maleki" ?

Are you "Mehram Maleki" Age 69 (Sep 1954), 
1365 Blackberry Ln Grand Prairie, TX 75050, 
 . . . or did Hanson make that up ?

You don't like "Whitie", I think.

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/ajnSIgo6Hf8/m/rxynXnKAEAAJ
https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=clutterfreak*+Sci-Physics+BEFORE:2016/07/01&sortBy=DATE
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              ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
          RonB  uf1lee$35tap$3@dont-email.me
        AndyMatt  pB_QM.16767$%TA2.14200@fx07.iad
      RonB  uf2cag$3atv9$1@dont-email.me
    AndyMatt  W53RM.215029$GHI6.71317@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--5.32pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (213)  OK; 28.8 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 {  4:42pm, 2023 }:46^(-4)  七鎑駶
      Using "undesirables" as cannon fodder.

AndyMatt repeats:
> Once again, aren't we glad that we have Relf around to set us straight, 
> and tell us to ignore our lying eyes?

Sarcasm:

  Russia does not now, nor has it ever, used "undesirables" as cannon fodder.
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              AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
            ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
          AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
        RonB  uf1lee$35tap$3@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  pB_QM.16767$%TA2.14200@fx07.iad
    RonB  uf2cag$3atv9$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--5.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (131)  OK; 1.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 27 {  4:02pm, 2023 }:40  七鎑邐
      Buryats, Yakuts & prisoners.

You (RonB) replied ( to AndyMatt ):
> > Don't want to fight on the frontlines ? No problem !
> > kidnap them and send them there anyway without training or equipment.
> 
> I've seen so many videos of Ukrianian men (and boys)
> being grabbed and shoved into vans to become cannon fodder.

Putin does the same, starting with Buryats, Yakuts & prisoners.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  %1ZQM.199401$Hih7.107200@fx11.iad
          ChrisV  9t29hihmhp9mepar62t222pk59sojap9e8@4ax.com
        AndyMatt  Ez0RM.167522$noZ7.1865@fx13.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.00pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  x61RM.167354$bmw6.36136@fx10.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--4.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (208)  OK; 1.6 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 {  2:26pm, 2023 }:53^(-4)  七鎑稝
      Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > Stealing Crimea from the Ukrainians, 2014, was fine.
> 
> Ukraine is stealing Crimea from the Russians.

Russia's LittleGreenMen are squatting in Crimea;
no one cares what squatters think.

> > Joining NATO's Sewing Circle is unforgivable.
> 
> It's unforgivable to me considering how Ukraine was _already_ the most 
> corrupt country in the world and how it was leveraging joining NATO as a 
> way to further enable and facilitate its corruption.

America, with Joe Biden, BLM & AntiFa at the top, 
& Trump supporters in jail, has perfected corruption.

China is corrupt; its top leaders keep vanishing.

Point out how corrupt Russia is & you'll fall out a window.

Meanwhile, NATO makes Kamala's border patrol look efficient.

> > Ethnic cleansing, mass torture & mass graves are fine.
> 
> You mean like the ethnic cleansing of Poles in the Second World War by 
> Ukrainians to the tune of 100,000 people?  No, I'm not a fan of that.

Yet that's precisely what Russia has done, with your approval, in Ukraine;
I've seen the videos.  Poland is next.

> > Stealing Crimea from the Tatars, 1783, was fine.
> 
> before Usenet and cell phones: waging war and claiming new lands
> was that time's version of dancing on TikTok.

Putin suffering Hitler's fate would be popular on TikTok.
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              ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  %1ZQM.199401$Hih7.107200@fx11.iad
      ChrisV  9t29hihmhp9mepar62t222pk59sojap9e8@4ax.com
    AndyMatt  Ez0RM.167522$noZ7.1865@fx13.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.00pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (209)  OK; 21 Secs, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 {  1:49pm, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七鎑煤
      Joining NATO's Sewing Circle.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > Ukraine joining NATO is going too far.
> 
> Good thing Relf is here to set us straight.

Let me get this straight:

  Ethnic cleansing, mass torture & mass graves are fine.
  Stealing Crimea from the Tatars, 1783, was fine.
  Stealing Crimea from the Ukrainians, 2014, was fine.

  Joining NATO's Sewing Circle is unforgivable.
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              ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  %1ZQM.199401$Hih7.107200@fx11.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.24am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  gG_QM.16770$%TA2.6172@fx07.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--0.00pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (208)  OK; 7.3 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 { 11:40am, 2023 }:12^(-4)  七鎑匌
      1783, Russia stole Crimea from the Tatars.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > Crimea belongs to the Tatars, Russia is trespassing.
> > Must I take your house before you take mine ?!
> 
> Are you Down Syndrome Yoda?

Putin justifies taking Ukrainian tents under thee pretense that,
otherwise, they'd take his mansions.  Right ?!

1783, Russia stole Crimea from the Tatars.   Right ?!
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              DFS  KTBQM.47726$2XR1.4441@fx43.iad
            FitFreak  uevrdk$l5jk$4@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
      RonB  uf1l7l$35tap$2@dont-email.me
    AndyMatt  Yu_QM.20303$hC28.14215@fx01.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.44am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (204)  OK; 2.1 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 { 11:28am, 2023 }: 7^(-4)  七鎑倷
      BetterWalls_BiggerBalls.

Putin justifies taking your tiny tent because, TrippingBalls,
he's _SURE_ you're going to take his MightyMansions;
Then you praise him for having BetterWalls_BiggerBalls than you.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
          ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
        AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  %1ZQM.199401$Hih7.107200@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.24am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (199)  OK; 51.6 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 {  9:48am, 2023 }:58^(-4)  七鎐諺
      Russia is trespassing.

Crimea belongs to the Tatars, Russia is trespassing.

Must I take your house before you take mine ?!
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              FitFreak  uevrdk$l5jk$4@solani.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
          AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
        ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
      AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
    RonB  uf1lee$35tap$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--10.56am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (130)  OK; 1.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 27 {  9:32am, 2023 }:14  七鎐蜎
      Like the homeless, Ukraine/America can't afford walls.

Like the homeless, Ukraine/America can't afford walls.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
          ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
        AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  kniti1Fas5U5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.26am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (118)  OK; 19 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 27 {  7:46am, 2023 }:25  七鎐湁
      Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland.

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland.
> 
> Poland may attack the Ukraine one of these days

That's _NOT_ what's happening now, far from it.

Putin would take Poland/America in a New York minute, if he could.
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              DFS  KTBQM.47726$2XR1.4441@fx43.iad
            FitFreak  uevrdk$l5jk$4@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
      ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
    rBowman  knitcaFas5U4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--8.20am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (118)  OK; 22 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 27 {  7:43am, 2023 }:23  七鎐涋
      Challengers Vanish.

rBowman Notes:
> Zelensky has his hand out 24/7/365.

Joe Biden silences the opposition.
Why beat Trump at the polls when you can just put him in jail ?!

Zelensky silences the opposition, Challengers Vanish;
Ditto for Putin, Xi, Kim JongUn, Narendra Modi, Lula, etc.

Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; 
division is inevitable.

Sarcasm:

   Quit your job & join Putin's fight against America, Ukraine & Poland.
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              DFS  KTBQM.47726$2XR1.4441@fx43.iad
            FitFreak  uevrdk$l5jk$4@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  OsLQM.176039$_Lv6.56852@fx12.iad
      ChrisV  cm78hi94419iopc78jbj8s56tug4jken2c@4ax.com
    AndyMatt  blVQM.211134$GHI6.139238@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.33am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (198)  OK; 25.8 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 27 {  5:36am, 2023 }:23^(-4)  七鎐俇
      Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland.

Like a true Soviet, Putin tortures Ukraine&Poland.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > I like Zelensky more than I do the Trudeau tyrant...
> 
> I hate both.

Then quit your job, Andy, & join Putin's fight against Ukraine&Poland.
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              RonB  uepqd7$1ecgb$6@dont-email.me
            rBowman  knbg42Fogd6U1@mid.individual.net
          RonB  uet9j7$25r45$2@dont-email.me
        FitFreak  uetch1$k26v$1@solani.org
      DFS  KTBQM.47726$2XR1.4441@fx43.iad
    FitFreak  uevrdk$l5jk$4@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--5.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (38)  OK; 4.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 26 {  5:01pm, 2023 }:56^(-5)  七鎍铴
      Dictators kill dissenters.

2.2 Years ago FitFreak was:

  clutterfreak incarnate @gmail_com  Sci.Physics  scq2pl$711$1@solani.org

He lives in Texas but he prefers Iran, where his family is;
he won't say _why_ he can't return to Iran.

Putin is bullying Ukraine, same as the Soviets did, before him.

All over the world, dictators kill dissenters.

"God" is Nature Herself.  Every cult needs an apocalypse.
Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; 
division is inevitable.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.21--2.16pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Desktop Linux Sucks.

Why desktop Linux sucks ( according to Linus Torvalds, Mar 27, 2021 ):

    YouTube.COM/watch?v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc
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      candycanearter07│no@thanks_net  uecup8$2gdrk$1@dont-email.me
    AndyMatt  56oOM.16$1B%c.3@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--2.15pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (161)  OK; 2.1 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 19 {  2:09pm, 2023 }:22^(-4)  七鍰簂
      I don't initiate crosspost storms.

I don't initiate crosspost storms;
in fact, I often delete the crossposting.
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        Crump  vilggilaefg4kerpid14j47smhf7crdh8a@4ax.com
      ChrisV  r93igitlctue86jiboefok4o3eom6kru7i@4ax.com
    AndyMatt  hUfOM.8837$1Xgb.5635@fx33.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--5.20am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 25.9 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 19 {  4:48am, 2023 }:29^(-4)  七鍮鲍
      Do _NOT_ debug my app if certain "warnings" were found.

I've set up my editor/debugger ( Visual Studio 2019 )
to _NOT_ debug my app if certain "warnings" were found;
always, it won't debug if there was an "error".
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        Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsB083546D159FB882000099222@135.181.20.170
      pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  ue9mos$1q45i$1@dont-email.me
    Lee│cleetis@gmail_com  ugOdnYB-8PMSj5T4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--9.59pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 1.2 Hours, XanaNews, Giganews.COM,  Sep 18 {  8:16pm, 2023 }:31^(0)  七鍭皏
      Why was the Roman Coliseum, 300 AD, more fun than working the fields ?

Q: Why is NYC more fun than Boise ?
A: The same reason the Roman Coliseum, 300 AD, was more fun than farming.
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            Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsB083546D159FB882000099222@135.181.20.170
          pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  ue9mos$1q45i$1@dont-email.me
        Walter_Duerson│liars@msnbc_com  XnsB083743C67544B043@0.0.0.0
      pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  uea74l$1tcl1$1@dont-email.me
    Lee│cleetis@gmail_com  lrKcnWBnEO62kJT4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--9.49pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (2) ify; 1.6 Hours, XanaNews, Giganews.COM,  Sep 18 {  7:53pm, 2023 }:31^(0)  七鍭焫
      Democrats have perfected the slaughter.

Q: Why are Big cities "run by Democrats" ?
A: Because they genocide the poor while claiming to be doing the opposite.
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              AndyMatt  oMANM.370$yR7d.349@fx44.iad
            rBowman  kmosmfFmevoU3@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  8LMNM.8693$qiGe.529@fx07.iad
        rBowman  kmpoqiFraqoU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.43am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  kmrd6tF53e2U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.40am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (105)  OK; 49.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 18 {  9:46am, 2023 }:21  七鍫蛝
      I hate forced updates.

rBowman wrote:
> update the server and you're done. 

Right, people love that ( I hate forced updates ).
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              AndyMatt  YHpNM.42643$CVBc.3373@fx16.iad
            rBowman  kmn8cbFen8kU1@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  oMANM.370$yR7d.349@fx44.iad
        rBowman  kmosmfFmevoU3@mid.individual.net
      AndyMatt  8LMNM.8693$qiGe.529@fx07.iad
    rBowman  kmpoqiFraqoU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.43am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (104)  OK; 5.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 17 {  6:52pm, 2023 }:19  七鍩奓
      I couldn't have been more wrong.

rBowman wrote:
> Gazing into crystal balls is part of a developer's job. 
> "Is this the future or is it going to be buried in 5 years?"  

I thought people would prefer desktop apps over web apps;
I couldn't have been more wrong.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.14am.Seattle.2023
            zZombie(%)  FkednRmRSop7u5r4nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.33am.Seattle.2023
        zZombie(%)  l9GcnWmjIIkNrZr4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--10.07am.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  kMudnRMa9slL05r4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.08am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 11  (810)  OK; 11.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 17 {  0:09pm, 2023 }: 9^(-7)  七鍧黕
      zZombie, Can you wipe your own ass  ?

There's a shriveled up potato where your brain used to be.

Can you wipe your own ass, zZombie ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.20pm.Seattle.2023
            zZombie(%)  v5GdnZC91btZiJr4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.14am.Seattle.2023
        zZombie(%)  FkednRmRSop7u5r4nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.33am.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  l9GcnWmjIIkNrZr4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--10.07am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (796)  OK; 49 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 17 {  9:59am, 2023 }:59^(-7)  七鍧肏
      I've been _HERE_ (COLA) for 20+ years.

You (zZombie) replied ( to me ):
> > https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Relf+Linux-Advocacy+BEFORE:2003/05/30&sortBy=DATE
> > If you don't believe Google Groups, look up:  Xns937FD8053DDCCRelf@130.133.1.4
> > https://groups.google.com/search?q=messageid:Xns937FD8053DDCCRelf@130.133.1.4
> 
> i don't go to posted web sites, any of these things can be altered,

Cool, The following is a MessageID ( at Giganews.COM ), not a website:

  Xns937FD8053DDCCRelf@130.133.1.4
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--0.32pm.Seattle.2023
            zZombie(%)  pnidnXvKh4yqs5v4nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.20pm.Seattle.2023
        zZombie(%)  v5GdnZC91btZiJr4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.14am.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  FkednRmRSop7u5r4nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.33am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (795)  OK; 6.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 17 {  9:18am, 2023 }:45^(-7)  七鍧盥
      I've been _HERE_ (COLA) for 20+ years.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > I've been _HERE_ (COLA) for 20+ years; see:
> > 
> >    https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Relf+Linux-Advocacy+BEFORE:2003/05/30&sortBy=DATE
> 
> i hate liars

If you don't believe Google Groups, look up:  Xns937FD8053DDCCRelf@130.133.1.4

https://groups.google.com/search?q=messageid:Xns937FD8053DDCCRelf@130.133.1.4
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              Schadenfreude  3atbgi5pfmrpppb6qgtmlfdog7fp3t6hom@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
            Crump  bmvbgiloa4aqk5qglu59e5vm5mhgm3k2gb@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--0.32pm.Seattle.2023
        zZombie(%)  pnidnXvKh4yqs5v4nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.20pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  v5GdnZC91btZiJr4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--9.14am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (794)  OK; 23.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 17 {  8:05am, 2023 }:39^(-7)  七鍧旃
      I've been _HERE_ (COLA) for 20+ years.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > > i just do it
> > 
> > Just don't.
> 
> you don't come here giving orders in your first week

Why ?! You take orders from Nike, obviously.

Also, I've been _HERE_ (COLA) for 20+ years; see:

  https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Relf+Linux-Advocacy+BEFORE:2003/05/30&sortBy=DATE
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              Crump  8hq9gip7vjfiirbu8l1fg6o05laot2ngpv@4ax.com
            Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e998caa1beb4698f386@usnews.blocknews.net
          Crump  9qr9gilnm3t18quc3rvc0f9tqr2jvthkpf@4ax.com
        pandora│pandora@peak_org  PeKdnfUScpJmW5j4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com
      Crump  d7rbgihjk1rauce5ov3aiq0mqvt2128o2n@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  pnidnXrKh4wPs5v4nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.40pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 7  (790)  OK; 7.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 16 {  3:39pm, 2023 }:13^(-7)  七鍤璑
      Entitled.

You (zZombie) replied ( to Crump ):
> > I'm entitled to seem "arrogant" to you.
> 
> you're entitled to what i let you have

You're both entitled.  Spoiled brats.
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              Crump  livbgidf32nr58uqva7ovi5bvvha5oj91l@4ax.com
            pandora│pandora@peak_org  af-dnVe9RumjkZv4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
          Crump  283cgi5mseqhv2f29ujmvhnnadf3djudeo@4ax.com
        pandora│pandora@peak_org  nnCdnY-dK5V8ipv4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
      Crump  707cgi500c7ouoo9upnuthhljho40mpgrc@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  YoidndNUH8CogJv4nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.35pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (790)  OK; 8.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 16 {  2:25pm, 2023 }: 8^(-7)  七鍤挴
      zZombie(%) won't be here for long.

You (zZombie) replied ( to zZombie(%) ):
> > Usenet is hellish.
> 
> not for me

We're nice to you, zZombie, because we know you won't be here for long.
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              Schadenfreude  0vlbgihskb9vhd31ok01bhlrrtkgdkvea1@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
            Crump  ucrbgiha1n4l1vlc4tp8n1ifurbl05688p@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  3atbgi5pfmrpppb6qgtmlfdog7fp3t6hom@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
        Crump  bmvbgiloa4aqk5qglu59e5vm5mhgm3k2gb@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--0.32pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  pnidnXvKh4yqs5v4nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.20pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 15  (790)  OK; 7.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 16 {  3:37pm, 2023 }:43^(-7)  七鍤琷
      Just don't.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > Give me a couple shots of espresso
> > and I'll soon be talking about how _GREAT_ I am.
> 
> i just do it

Just don't.
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              pandora│pandora@peak_org  PeKdnfUScpJmW5j4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com
            zZombie(%)  iZmcnVTilME2Wpj4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.41am.Seattle.2023
        FitFreak  ue4pe9$82p0$3@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.31am.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ue52th$85lh$3@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.08pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (35)  OK; 9.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 16 {  1:24pm, 2023 }:17^(-5)  七鍤哱
      Nerds aren't fashion models.

Like me, nerds aren't fashion models.

Fat people, like me, are ugly.

Skinny people, on the other hand, can be disagreeable.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.05pm.Seattle.2023
            Crump  sifbgilnmrnndrakiuhd8bd5rtl0ufqgnb@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  0vlbgihskb9vhd31ok01bhlrrtkgdkvea1@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
        Crump  ucrbgiha1n4l1vlc4tp8n1ifurbl05688p@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  3atbgi5pfmrpppb6qgtmlfdog7fp3t6hom@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
    Crump  bmvbgiloa4aqk5qglu59e5vm5mhgm3k2gb@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--0.32pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  (1066)  OK; 4.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 16 {  0:15pm, 2023 }:47^(-4)  七鍣難
      Give me a couple shots of espresso & . . .

Crump wrote:
> > > > > I don't have an interest in defining Christianity as a religion but,
> > > > > when you fail to follow "Christ" [me], I point that out rather viciously.
> 
> I *am* Jesus, dipshit.
                 
Give me a couple shots of espresso 
and I'll soon be talking about how _GREAT_ I am.
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            zZombie(%)  pbudnXmlMobqWZn4nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.41pm.Seattle.2023
        Crump  3pebgi59h6fonicqt7hjfb8o56mqpnckhp@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.34am.Seattle.2023
    Crump  n9rbgihur614glehu6jh7f1urld62kppkn@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.38am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (1062)  OK; 7.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 16 { 11:01am, 2023 }: 3^(-4)  七鍣蕟
      Crump, You'd force everyone to drink Pepsi ?

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > there are better ways to fight Intrusive Thoughts.
> 
> Not when you're like me, 
> and you're trying to eliminate them, in everyone, altogether.

You'd force everyone to drink Pepsi, Crump ?

Caffeine is one way to fight intrusive thoughts,
morphine is another . . . religion also works, etc.

Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; division is inevitable.
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              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e998caa1beb4698f386@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  9qr9gilnm3t18quc3rvc0f9tqr2jvthkpf@4ax.com
          pandora│pandora@peak_org  PeKdnfUScpJmW5j4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com
        zZombie(%)  iZmcnVTilME2Wpj4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.41am.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  ue4pe9$82p0$3@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--11.31am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (34)  OK; 6.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 16 { 10:42am, 2023 }:34^(-5)  七鍣脊
      I just like Richard Stallman, I don't worship him.

Re: Drinking coffee with a geometry book.

Caffeine is one way to fight intrusive thoughts,
morphine is another . . . religion also works, etc.

FitFreak told me:
> get a Burger King job close enough to walk.

Can I have some fries with that ?
How much do I owe you, 2 ¢ ?
 
> It'll automatically solve half of your problems.

No one escapes alive, everyone ages out.
I like my current life and, for now, I can afford it.

> cut your "Linux advocacy" bullshit.

I just like Richard Stallman, I don't worship him.

> A 14 year old doesn't advocate anything.

Unlike you, I don't act like a 14 year old.

> use your hand as your dick.

Unlike you, I'm not f*cking anyone.
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              pandora│pandora@peak_org  1t-cnThtRZQlV5n4nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com
            Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e7b2f8da7127598f380@usnews.blocknews.net
          pandora│pandora@peak_org  fNKdnYSD8ZOxRpn4nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@supernews.com
        Raven│raven@invalid_invalid  ue30hm$3jp2o$1@dont-email.me
      pandora│pandora@peak_org  PeKdnfQScpJkVZj4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com
    zZombie(%)  b6-cnWnMQrJQV5j4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.45am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (769)  OK; 3.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 16 {  8:33am, 2023 }:32^(-7)  七鍣拌
      Every junkie is a setting sun.

zZombie(%):
> methadone, yay, that'll take the weeds out of your garden

There are better ways to fight Intrusive Thoughts.

You haven't long to live, zZombie(%), every junkie is a setting sun.
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              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e96fb9446281e98f385@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  8hq9gip7vjfiirbu8l1fg6o05laot2ngpv@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e998caa1beb4698f386@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  9qr9gilnm3t18quc3rvc0f9tqr2jvthkpf@4ax.com
      pandora│pandora@peak_org  PeKdnfUScpJmW5j4nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com
    zZombie(%)  iZmcnVTilME2Wpj4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.41am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  (769)  OK; 16.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 16 {  8:20am, 2023 }:10^(-7)  七鍣循
      Arrogance is _WILLFUL_ ignorance.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to pandora ):
> > Such arrogance [Crump]!
> 
> did you mean ignorance ?

Arrogance is _WILLFUL_ ignorance.

Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; division is inevitable.
■
        zZombie(%)  pbudnXmlMobqWZn4nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.41pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  3pebgi59h6fonicqt7hjfb8o56mqpnckhp@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.34am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 16 {  7:28am, 2023 }:39^(-4)  七鍣厗
      Intrusive Thoughts.

Crump mentioned:

  "Caffeine" -- Alice Cooper, 2011.
     YouTube.COM/watch?v=frqNmIZgYQ8

Nicely done; however, there are better ways to fight Intrusive Thoughts.
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              Raven│raven@invalid_invalid  ue2vtb$3ft66$1@dont-email.me
            onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on  1qh4qbs.1br92i9n1ro39N%onion@anon.invalid
          Crump  4i2agi5vdu73dktnknk97m32k4uif91n4f@4ax.com
        zZombie(%)  j82cnZcJfsiVsJj4nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--11.14pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  W8adnUhG3a6FIZj4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--7.58am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 2  (764)  OK; 17.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 16 {  7:30am, 2023 }:47^(-7)  七鍣吗
      doesn't seem likely

zZombie(%) asked me:
> Can you prove i asked you anything ?

You're going to fight Crump in the Las Vegas octagon ?
https://www.ufc.com/octagon

doesn't seem likely
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    Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6ea040b6f7708e989712@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--2.21am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (27)  OK; 8.8 Hours, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 15 {  3:10pm, 2023 }:15^(-4)  七鍠摇
      Conservatives are both the best & the worst lovers.

> Anyone ever bang a hasidic jewess ? 
> Was it good sex ?   I'm Ashkenazi.

Conservatives are both the best & the worst lovers.

Zuckerberg's Hasidic(Yiddish) Judaism originated in [ what is now ] 
Poland & Western Ukraine ~1740 and is noted for its conservatism.

Please take a peek outside of your _LITTLE_ world, Keppi; to wit:

  " NYC Needs 500 thousand More Apartments ", Sep 13, 2023
   YouTube.COM/watch?v=gjWxtO1QwWw
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              pandora│pandora@peak_org  oe2cnXXjcu2vBpn4nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@supernews.com
            Crump  qdc9gi5jfdet5vedpukp5q8dvha2p84gk6@4ax.com
          pandora│pandora@peak_org  GcScnSVcjOUVXZn4nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@supernews.com
        Crump  56g9gitugdi7jnc48knquupv63q1dsin18@4ax.com
      Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e76a8d20a845e98f37a@usnews.blocknews.net
    pandora│pandora@peak_org  qRicnQKUyJl0VJn4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--1.41am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 4  (16)  OK; 9.6 Hours, Pan, Supernews.COM,  Sep 15 {  2:17pm, 2023 }:29^(0)  七鍠埩
      The Sane Ones.

You (pandora) replied ( to Skeeter ):
> > Did you see the part where God doesn't like gays ?
> 
> *They* select the parts they agree with and throw the rest away.  

Only the sane ones.
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              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e96fb9446281e98f385@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  8hq9gip7vjfiirbu8l1fg6o05laot2ngpv@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6e998caa1beb4698f386@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  9qr9gilnm3t18quc3rvc0f9tqr2jvthkpf@4ax.com
      Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6ea8e07347fd7698f38d@usnews.blocknews.net
    Raven│raven@invalid_invalid  ue2vgq$3fre8$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--11.19pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 15  (22)  OK; 3.6 Hours, MesNews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 15 {  6:14pm, 2023 }: 0^(-4)  七鍠轘
      division is inevitable.

Raven wrote:
> Politics and religion are fubar topics, imo.

"God" is nature herself.
Every cult needs an apocalypse.
Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; division is inevitable.
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              onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on  1qh4mns.zfo04l1ugfbcN%onion@anon.invalid
            Crump  0fu9gitsjuqar8vhqjfcds1lhe52ctgq91@4ax.com
          Raven│raven@invalid_invalid  ue2vtb$3ft66$1@dont-email.me
        onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on  1qh4qbs.1br92i9n1ro39N%onion@anon.invalid
      Crump  4i2agi5vdu73dktnknk97m32k4uif91n4f@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  j82cnZcJfsiVsJj4nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--11.14pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  (762)  OK; 31.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 15 {  9:20pm, 2023 }:23^(-7)  七鍡椇
      Johannesburg, Nigeria, Cairo.

zZombie(%) asked me to:
> name a place

Seattle, Denver, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego, Vancouver, Tokyo, 
Shanghai, Taipei, Saigon, Singapore, Jakarta, Bangladesh, Bombay,
Afghanistan, Iran, Jerusalem, Constantinople, Crimea, Kiev, Moscow,
Sao Paulo, Argentina, Venezuela, Panama, Johannesburg, Nigeria, Cairo.
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    zZombie(%)  pbudnXmlMobqWZn4nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.41pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 33  (762)  OK; 8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 15 {  1:54pm, 2023 }:14^(-7)  七鍠剶
      Caffeine.

Crump wrote:
> I'm the son of man, I judge "Christians".
> 
> First of all, you're welcome for [ the eternal life I gave you ] but, as you can see,
> God has granted me, at this point in my [ "rockstar president" ] career, 
> the power to condemn false "Christianity".

zZombie(%):
> WHY DOES JOEL go out of his way to be a dick face ?

Caffeine.
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        Crump  vhh8gi9s6mdbuq5mm0e5droamv1jj90o1h@4ax.com
      pandora│pandora@peak_org  oe2cnXXjcu2vBpn4nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@supernews.com
    Crump  qdc9gi5jfdet5vedpukp5q8dvha2p84gk6@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.18pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 8.6 Hours, Pan, Supernews.COM,  Sep 15 {  1:37pm, 2023 }:28^(0)  七鍠予
      Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Crump wrote:
> I'm the son of man, I judge "Christians".

Jesus wrote:
   Judge not, that ye be not judged.

   For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
   and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
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            Crump  vhh8gi9s6mdbuq5mm0e5droamv1jj90o1h@4ax.com
          pandora│pandora@peak_org  oe2cnXXjcu2vBpn4nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@supernews.com
        Crump  qdc9gi5jfdet5vedpukp5q8dvha2p84gk6@4ax.com
      pandora│pandora@peak_org  GcScnSVcjOUVXZn4nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@supernews.com
    Crump  56g9gitugdi7jnc48knquupv63q1dsin18@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.05pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 19  (1054)  OK; 8.2 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 15 {  1:40pm, 2023 }:34^(-4)  七鍠佂
      I define _TRUE_ Christianity.  </sarcasm>

Crump wrote:
> First of all, you're welcome for [ the eternal life I gave you ] but, as you can see,
> God has granted me, at this point in my [ "rockstar president" ] career, 
> the power to condemn false "Christianity".

No, I define _TRUE_ Christianity.  </sarcasm>
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.09pm.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udpovt$1iqan$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.55am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udug41$2iauh$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--6.00am.Seattle.2023
    Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6cf9e61ec920d3989702@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--0.13pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (15)  OK; 7.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 14 {  9:07am, 2023 }:57^(-4)  七鍛埝
      Keppi's _LITTLE_ world.

You (Keppi) replied ( to me ):
> > When the economy is bad, and lawlessness prevails,
> > even The Puppet Masters will reject Biden.
> 
> when is the economy going to get bad

Try looking outside of your _LITTLE_ world, Keppi; to wit:

  " NYC Needs 500 thousand More Apartments ", Sep 13, 2023
   YouTube.COM/watch?gjWxtO1QwWw
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              AndyMatt  W2ZMM.19832$hmAd.11988@fx12.iad
            ChrisV  24o8gi5ll89av796uhbn7m1l3v11dfiju2@4ax.com
          AndyMatt  3MZMM.19268$Yxl8.16934@fx14.iad
        Crump  hdq8gi9inmhpccitau3vgtdlpp23se8vks@4ax.com
      AndyMatt  4t_MM.38586$CVBc.18352@fx16.iad
    Crump  1au8gitn8mvvtd84ch1bri3n0td4mupl6f@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--9.54am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (1033)  OK; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 15 {  8:34am, 2023 }:41^(-4)  七鍟妑
      Marching with Crump & Huntzinger.

Crump & Huntzinger won't be happy until AndyMatt is out there, marching with them, 
gluing themselves to police cars until gays get more rights.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.55am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udpp4e$1iqan$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.09am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udugfh$2iauh$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.36am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  ue1pr3$39afs$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--7.40am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (87)  OK; 53 Secs, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 15 {  7:30am, 2023 }:59  七鍞鲣
      As Isaiah prophesied.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > 705 BC Babylon is/was a real place;
> > it's not _entirely_ unique, North Korea is having similar problems.
> 
> 2023 A.D. Babylon is basically an abandoned spot in the dessert.

As Isaiah prophesied.

John the Revelator included "666" (Caesar) in the mess.
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      Crump  u0d6gi1cfnlk39e0qdifb67c6rln12rp3f@4ax.com
    ScottGNU  FYPMM.47338$QShe.40441@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--3.26am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    -Dropped, 6.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 14 {  8:54pm, 2023 }:10^(-7)  七鍝奢
      ScottGNU, You're more Stallman than human.

You (ScottGNU) replied ( to Crump ):
> > So, Hunter's plea deal [ . . . ]
> 
> Has not a fscking thing to do with Linux, fuvg-for-brains.

You're more Stallman than human, ScottGNU.
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              Schadenfreude  ghh6gi5qjl5f470sa9qbq3vo8rdolmbfbl@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
            Crump  ugl6giddm13knv5j4ukrbatg2rf9mu1poe@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  ptl6gilat7k9m6ggr1bikkqj0qcplpnp2e@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
        Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6d22a13b89f05498970c@news.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.01pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  p137gil0ccifcrib3ieqo67rad2n9dcjl7@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.58pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (1007)  OK; 13.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 14 {  3:42pm, 2023 }:30^(-4)  七鍜扖
      Gay.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > He has testicles, not ovaries.
> 
> Testicles are more fun to fondle and lick, than ovaries are.

Gay.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--6.00am.Seattle.2023
            Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6cf9e61ec920d3989702@news.eternal-september.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--9.26am.Seattle.2023
        Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6d23d45a2c772f98970d@news.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.06pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  S0SdnQ4DFP349574nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.26pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (692) Bad; 5.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 14 {  1:17pm, 2023 }:41^(-7)  七鍛鉥
      zZombie(%), What about your kids ?

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > What percentage of your income is used to pay your rent ?
> 
> i'm an owner i don't pay anything   my income is in the bank

What about your kids, zZombie(%) ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.55am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udug41$2iauh$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--6.00am.Seattle.2023
        Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6cf9e61ec920d3989702@news.eternal-september.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--9.26am.Seattle.2023
    Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6d23d45a2c772f98970d@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.06pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 11  (26)  OK; 39.1 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 14 {  0:06pm, 2023 }:46^(-4)  七鍛臆
      What percentage of your income is used to pay your rent ?

You (Keppi) replied ( to me ):
> > When a MethHead sh*ts on your manicured lawn, & kills you for your car.
> 
> i don't have a manicured lawn nor a car

What percentage of your income is used to pay your rent ?

How secure is your income ?
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              Schadenfreude  9ge6giprqs2qssa80krbfq9rsts10np2i3@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
            Crump  ele6gih2ru5mugbsvnabkbgcmhu4hmht2m@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  ghh6gi5qjl5f470sa9qbq3vo8rdolmbfbl@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
        Crump  ugl6giddm13knv5j4ukrbatg2rf9mu1poe@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  ptl6gilat7k9m6ggr1bikkqj0qcplpnp2e@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
    Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6d22a13b89f05498970c@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (26)  OK; 44.1 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 14 {  0:01pm, 2023 }:46^(-4)  七鍛肚
      He has testicles, not ovaries.

You (Keppi) replied ( to Schadenfreude ):
> > HE isn't a woman. He's a man.
> 
> how can you be certain ?

He has testicles, not ovaries.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.09pm.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udpovt$1iqan$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.55am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udug41$2iauh$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--6.00am.Seattle.2023
    Keppi│gitfiddle22017O@hotmail_com  MPG.3f6cf9e61ec920d3989702@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--9.26am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (15)  OK; 7.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 14 {  9:07am, 2023 }:57^(-4)  七鍛埝
      When a MethHead sh*ts on your manicured lawn.

You (Keppi) replied ( to me ):
> > When the economy is bad, and lawlessness prevails,
> > even The Puppet Masters will reject Biden.
> 
> when is the economy going to get bad

When a MethHead sh*ts on your manicured lawn, & kills you for your car.
Have a nice day !
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              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6b58e266601acd98f27c@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  sai3gip42c4jdesa4u0g052nj0r01630t5@4ax.com
          Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f6b867c382e085898c768@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  ciq3gi1mf86of41s05nos45j5svlfhb0ol@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--6.40pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  lmd5gipjuu0vv1mgo2pup28bvekuu4pgd5@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--6.05am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 5  (987)  OK; 1.8 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 14 {  0:32am, 2023 }:52^(-4)  七鍙茤
      Every cult needs an apocalypse.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > Joe Biden's reaction to "January 6th" ( & the PLANdemic )
> > show that he's _MORE_ corrupt than Putin.
> 
> That is insane, Relf.

Every cult needs an apocalypse.
Everyone believes what he _NEEDS_ to believe; division is inevitable.
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              ChrisV  5p7vfihf4qa86uakrvtmodp9pski8m76ke@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  KKNLM.311$vdEb.109@fx38.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.09pm.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udpovt$1iqan$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.55am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udug41$2iauh$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--6.00am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 3  (84)  OK; 54.8 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 14 {  1:26am, 2023 }:42  七鍙迂
      The Puppet Masters will reject Biden.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > > those programming the machines choose who wins and loses. 
> >
> > The programmers will give Biden the loss.
> 
> Why ? The senile, old pervert is doing everything 
> his puppetmasters program him to do. 

No, When the economy is bad, and lawlessness prevails,
even The Puppet Masters will reject Biden.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--6.28am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udmng0$10f6i$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.55am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udpp4e$1iqan$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.09am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udugfh$2iauh$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (84)  OK; 48.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 14 {  1:32am, 2023 }:49  七鍙鄱
      705 BC Babylon is/was a real place.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> I don't see how Syria and Iraq can be considered 
> the "Mother of Harlots" spoken of in Revelation. 
> The have almost no power or influence worldwide.

705 BC Babylon is/was a real place;
it's not _entirely_ unique, North Korea is having similar problems.

Right or Wrong, I see Putin suffering like Milosevic did.
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              Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f6ae95314fcfe4498c763@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  i1j2gi5einmlg240g0bid951cehd5qj9he@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6b58e266601acd98f27c@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  sai3gip42c4jdesa4u0g052nj0r01630t5@4ax.com
      Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f6b867c382e085898c768@usnews.blocknews.net
    Crump  ciq3gi1mf86of41s05nos45j5svlfhb0ol@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--6.40pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  (982)  OK; 8.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 13 {  9:59am, 2023 }:30^(-4)  七鍗婲
      Joe Biden is _MORE_ corrupt than Putin.

Joe Biden's reaction to "January 6th" ( & the PLANdemic )
shows that he's _MORE_ corrupt than Putin.
■
              Crump  rmo1gi1e3rl9s95a1puhg3v8m3nes36sds@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.39pm.Seattle.2023
          Crump  fh82gip42chrv3i6sqrodjvisg2m1a3gun@4ax.com
        zZombie(%)  -82cndG6D-uCupz4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.24pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  vdc2gihnten4dt09na2kf7jfrtt88ended@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--5.01am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 8 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 12 {  8:59pm, 2023 }: 7^(-4)  七鍔馋
      Crump, How much is your (monthly) EBT SNAP deposit ?

How much is your (monthly) EBT SNAP deposit, Crump ?

Do you use it to buy hot, prepared meals ?
■
              Crump  t7i1gihjee8puku5nf9v0csldhn51an0i5@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.29pm.Seattle.2023
          Crump  rmo1gi1e3rl9s95a1puhg3v8m3nes36sds@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.39pm.Seattle.2023
      Crump  fh82gip42chrv3i6sqrodjvisg2m1a3gun@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  -82cndG6D-uCupz4nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.24pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (674) Bad; 6.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 12 {  8:06pm, 2023 }: 6^(-7)  七鍔贞
      The Rock Star President in "Idiocracy" rules Clown World.

The Rock Star President in "Idiocracy" rules Clown World.
■
              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6a399114f3c7c198f219@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  4cb1gil6g3ca7lbv3gd2lghadco5jo2tg4@4ax.com
          ChrisV  afh1gilvmbjosj33aoesdftacfh6vc0lti@4ax.com
        Crump  t7i1gihjee8puku5nf9v0csldhn51an0i5@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.29pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  rmo1gi1e3rl9s95a1puhg3v8m3nes36sds@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.39pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Slack, Alt.Flame, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 11  (963)  OK; 3.8 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 12 {  3:19pm, 2023 }:11^(-4)  七鍓鯟
      A Rock Star President trades privacy for fame.

You (Crump) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > > I get the bulk of my cash from Survivor.
> >
> > In the eyes of the law, you're a ( 46-year-old ) orphaned child.
> 
> my mom is alive.

" Orphaned from your dad's earnings ", I meant, of course.

> > Are you an "only child", Crump ?
> 
> No.  Why are you asking so many personal questions?

A Rock Star President trades privacy for fame.
■
              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6a3328bca4986898f215@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  on21gito526iijtuh9apeucguf5rho6c35@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6a399114f3c7c198f219@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  4cb1gil6g3ca7lbv3gd2lghadco5jo2tg4@4ax.com
      ChrisV  afh1gilvmbjosj33aoesdftacfh6vc0lti@4ax.com
    Crump  t7i1gihjee8puku5nf9v0csldhn51an0i5@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.29pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Slack, Alt.Flame, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 2  (954)  OK; 33.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 12 {  1:26pm, 2023 }: 5^(-4)  七鍓腝
      Crump, Are you an "only child" ?

You (Crump) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> I get the bulk of my cash from Survivor.

In the eyes of the law, you're a ( 47-year-old ) orphaned child.

What did your dad do to make so much money ?
Are you an "only child", Crump ?
■
              Crump  ibiufi5akn9d2630g5vktti3h8gqlfc0iq@4ax.com
            me4guns  udnpsf$161m6$8@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--8.31pm.Seattle.2023
        zZombie(%)  hladnX_HrIGs6J34nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.39am.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  QEmdnZsmH_Ax5Z34nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.53am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Transgendered, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    -Dropped, 6.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 12 {  7:41am, 2023 }:49^(-7)  七鍒芭
      zZombie(%)'s reading comprehension.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > > are [sic] you doing [sic] to tell us how he makes the [sic] bed now too [sic]
> > 
> > Your tribe couldn't afford an English teacher, I see.
> > 
> > "Sarcasm":  The ability to insult idiots without them realizing it.
> 
> what

I said, " the eloquence of your writing, zZombie(%), 
is only exceeded by your reading comprehension ".
■
              Crump  jueufi1lr3g3ib1s30lf92qtjokljrip9e@4ax.com
            Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f68e3bedab6fc4e98c750@usnews.blocknews.net
          Crump  ibiufi5akn9d2630g5vktti3h8gqlfc0iq@4ax.com
        me4guns  udnpsf$161m6$8@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--8.31pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  hladnX_HrIGs6J34nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.39am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Transgendered, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (644) Bad; 2.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 12 {  7:26am, 2023 }:58^(-7)  七鍒缲
      "Sarcasm":  The ability to insult idiots without them realizing it.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > Crump is not allowed to touch the porn stars, but they can touch him.
> > </sarcasm>
> 
> are [sic] you doing [sic] to tell us how he makes the [sic] bed now too [sic]

Your tribe couldn't afford an English teacher, I see.

"Sarcasm":  The ability to insult idiots without them realizing it.
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              ChrisV  5p7vfihf4qa86uakrvtmodp9pski8m76ke@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  KKNLM.311$vdEb.109@fx38.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.09pm.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udpovt$1iqan$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.55am.Seattle.2023
    Crump  rps0gil505f66ok7dvd0sk74t50smsiaqe@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.27am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (940)  OK; 2 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 12 {  7:20am, 2023 }:44^(-4)  七鍒綼
      Most Americans aren't insulated from today's exploding economy.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > The programmers will give Biden the loss.
> 
> No, Trump will probably just win, like he did in 2016.
> I'll vote for Biden but I'd like it if he'd step aside

Most Americans aren't insulated from today's exploding economy,
not like you are, Crump.
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              Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net  udno0h$15nd5$1@dont-email.me
            Crump  h3rufipmn3lothnsonl5qpdug2uiopet65@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.00pm.Seattle.2023
        Crump  scl0gitqm32rmtie18vs690pq8bpeachr0@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.51am.Seattle.2023
    Crump  hop0gilu0kjq83tcns55lm9b7k8o9toid8@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.16am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (940)  OK; 19.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 12 {  6:30am, 2023 }:32^(-4)  七鍒燸
      _VERY_ fortunate.

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > How long have you lived there, Crump ?
> 
> 11 years.

You are _very_ fortunate.

> > What percent of your income is it ?
> 
> About 37%, not including utilities/Internet.  I make about the most
> Social Security pays, thanks to my parents.  Before my dad's death, I
> was still getting the majority of cash from SSI, which did not go to
> me at all, but to my parents, as I lived with them.  The SSDI was
> small, but somehow I got a lot of mileage out of it.  I don't mind
> having more now, but it does kind of spoil one, fortunately I've
> gotten older and wiser, and just don't think a lot about money.

Again, _VERY_ fortunate.
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.29am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udkf2r$irqm$4@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--6.28am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udmng0$10f6i$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.55am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udpp4e$1iqan$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--7.09am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (80)  OK; 20.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 12 {  6:29am, 2023 }:50  七鍒燎
      Babylon ( the mother of harlots ) has hardly changed.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> You really think Russia is "Babylon?"

No, "Babylon" ( "the mother of harlots", Syria & Iraq today )         
is the same ( if not worse ) than it was 3 thousand years ago.

Slobo Milosevic died in 2006, age 64 ( heart attack ),
before the end of his _5_ year trial ( for "crimes against humanity" ).

Right or Wrong, I see Putin suffering the same ( or worse ) fate.
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              Crump  unstfi563td6lkd02lpge6h6abp3uv0afj@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  33c819c1-4ec4-4990-bd22-884582a9ffa2n@googlegroups.com
          ChrisV  5p7vfihf4qa86uakrvtmodp9pski8m76ke@4ax.com
        AndyMatt  KKNLM.311$vdEb.109@fx38.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.09pm.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udpovt$1iqan$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.55am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (80)  OK; 22.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 12 {  6:27am, 2023 }:25  七鍒焽
      The programmers will give Biden the loss.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > Wages are not keeping pace with rent increases &
> > big cities are gentrifying.  2024, Joe Biden loses. 
> 
> those programming the machines choose who wins and loses. 

The programmers will give Biden the loss.
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              Crump  1ttsfih8jtmvek6cavp1ovn3ik0l14tc70@4ax.com
            pandora│pandora@peak_org  epucndVCeMqm0WL5nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com
          Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net  udno0h$15nd5$1@dont-email.me
        Crump  h3rufipmn3lothnsonl5qpdug2uiopet65@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.00pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  scl0gitqm32rmtie18vs690pq8bpeachr0@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.51am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 6  (936)  OK; 27.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 12 {  5:13am, 2023 }:15^(-4)  七鍒忛
      Crump, How long have you lived there  ?

You (Crump) replied ( to me ):
> > How did you get such a good deal on rent, Crump ?
> > How much do you pay ?
> 
> It's not exactly cheap, but I can afford it

How long have you lived there, Crump ?
 
What percent of your income is it ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.57pm.Seattle.2023
            zZombie(%)  GKmcnfpPtZOP02P5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--8.50pm.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  vi0ufi50l8mknee7trd94f1n0ar2dp6ijg@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--5.32am.Seattle.2023
    FitFreak  udo7r1$1vfa$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.27pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 8  (26)  OK; 3.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep 11 {  4:28pm, 2023 }:33^(-5)  七鍐傡
      The Patron Saint of USENET.

You (FitFreak) replied ( to me ):
> > No good deed goes unpunished, No bad deed goes unrewarded.
> 
> You're turning into a fucking Saint.

The Pope calls me, "The Patron Saint of USENET".   </sarcasm>
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              Crump  9v5sfit8kn0b0f3vo8h17etblq73p86v2f@4ax.com
            rBowman  km7fvrFs1h3U8@mid.individual.net
          Crump  unstfi563td6lkd02lpge6h6abp3uv0afj@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  33c819c1-4ec4-4990-bd22-884582a9ffa2n@googlegroups.com
      ChrisV  5p7vfihf4qa86uakrvtmodp9pski8m76ke@4ax.com
    AndyMatt  KKNLM.311$vdEb.109@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (129)  OK; 3.4 Hours, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 11 {  4:52pm, 2023 }:10^(-4)  七鍐嘪
      2024, Joe Biden loses.

Wages are not keeping pace with rent increases &
big cities are gentrifying.  2024, Joe Biden loses. 
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              Crump  shosfitr4jhh4b6blbcnjqeklf9d5hqv6q@4ax.com
            pandora│pandora@peak_org  epucndpCeMqi6WP5nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com
          Crump  1ttsfih8jtmvek6cavp1ovn3ik0l14tc70@4ax.com
        pandora│pandora@peak_org  epucndVCeMqm0WL5nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com
      Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net  udno0h$15nd5$1@dont-email.me
    Crump  h3rufipmn3lothnsonl5qpdug2uiopet65@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--9.00pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (930)  OK; 7.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 11 {  0:42pm, 2023 }:55^(-4)  七鍏涿
      Crump, How did you get such a good deal on rent ?

How did you get such a good deal on rent, Crump ?
How much do you pay ?

Crump:
> I drink nearly a 12 pack of Diet Pepsi everyday . . . weed

Zacurate 500E, Fingertip Pulse Reader,
Blood Oxygen Saturation Monitor, & 2x AAA Batteries.
■
              Crump  inaufihp5q7tj3pulkke1175mqhk5782ng@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--8.24am.Seattle.2023
          Crump  jueufi1lr3g3ib1s30lf92qtjokljrip9e@4ax.com
        Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f68e3bedab6fc4e98c750@usnews.blocknews.net
      Crump  ibiufi5akn9d2630g5vktti3h8gqlfc0iq@4ax.com
    me4guns  udnpsf$161m6$8@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--8.31pm.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Transgendered, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (597) Bad; 7.8 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 11 {  0:25pm, 2023 }:16^(-5)  七鍏榜
      Crump is not allowed to touch the stars.

Speaking of not being president, Crump wrote:
> > I'd have a more lucrative career on TV.

me4guns replied:
> As what? A gay porn star? Is that how you make your income?
 
No, Crump is not allowed to touch the stars, but they can touch him.
</sarcasm>
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              me4guns  udn2vf$12bn1$18@dont-email.me
            Crump  p07ufittmlk9bl9t1n6g5kmkro1imt95pm@4ax.com
          Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f68bf59e5a2a1f498c746@usnews.blocknews.net
        Borked  =?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8C=BA?=58zm3.2XFVjV0Z$@210.157.131.25=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8C=BA?=
      Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f68c659a66e0dd498c74a@usnews.blocknews.net
    Crump  inaufihp5q7tj3pulkke1175mqhk5782ng@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--8.24am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Transgendered, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (926)  OK; 7.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 11 {  8:01am, 2023 }:49^(-4)  七鍎緝
      Trump is humble, compared to Crump.

Crump wrote:
> I was to become the GOAT for a reason.

Trump is humble, compared to Crump.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.29am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  udkf2r$irqm$4@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--6.28am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udmng0$10f6i$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--7.58am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  91GLM.757324$xMqa.393322@fx12.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--8.15am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (150)  OK; 3.7 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 11 {  8:05am, 2023 }:41^(-4)  七鍎绅
      Vladivostok Russia used to be part of China.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > China has a long & storied history of losing territory.
> 
> Ah, Relf, you incorrigible harlequin.

Vladivostok Russia used to be part of China.

Japan took most of China before Americans made them give it back.

Brits took whatever they wanted, e.g. Hong Kong & Shanghai.
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              RonB  udi007$43v0$1@dont-email.me
            AndyMatt  uxhLM.868780$U3w1.260939@fx09.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.29am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udkf2r$irqm$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--6.28am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udmng0$10f6i$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--7.58am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (90)  OK; 38.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 11 {  2:43am, 2023 }:28  七鍍蕀
      China has a long & storied history of losing territory.

China has a long & storied history of losing territory.
■
              Crump  bubsfitrvbeclnht4ilnim1kjuas4ga086@4ax.com
            zZombie(%)  v1udnS_HsqGDrGP5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.57pm.Seattle.2023
        zZombie(%)  GKmcnfpPtZOP02P5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--8.50pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  vi0ufi50l8mknee7trd94f1n0ar2dp6ijg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--5.32am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  (104)  OK; 21.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Sep 11 {  5:06am, 2023 }:43^(-5)  七鍎哓
      No good deed goes unpunished, No bad deed goes unrewarded.

ChrisV:
> those of us who have saved some money will get our benefits slashed.

No good deed goes unpunished, No bad deed goes unrewarded.
■
              RonB  udi007$43v0$1@dont-email.me
            AndyMatt  uxhLM.868780$U3w1.260939@fx09.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.29am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  udkf2r$irqm$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--6.28am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udmng0$10f6i$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.55am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (90)  OK; 38.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 11 {  2:43am, 2023 }:28  七鍍蕀
      Babylon ( the mother of harlots ) has hardly changed.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > Again, it's not about right or wrong, it's about who gets away with what
> > & Putin isn't going to get away with it... see Serbia, 2003.
> 
> You mean 1993, Pre-Putin ?

No, Slobo Milosevic died in 2006, age 64 ( heart attack ),
before the end of his _5_ year trial ( for "crimes against humanity" ).

> A whole lot has changed in the last 30 years.

Babylon ( "the mother of harlots" ) has hardly changed
in the last 3 thousand years, apparently.
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              Crump  ad6rfi54ib46poakcir123a835n79mhk73@4ax.com
            Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f678e748d92127f98c72c@usnews.blocknews.net
          Crump  1qurfilcbhkech9tf7u0dokk1g4124nr3i@4ax.com
        Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f67a77d5438d71f98c72f@usnews.blocknews.net
      Crump  ou2sfilbc7ov882e891jav7kd2m5m06iqc@4ax.com
    rBowman  km7h5uFt2r3U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--9.06pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 12.2 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep 10 {  8:51pm, 2023 }:26  七鍌蒾
      The Plan.

rBowman noted:
> gentrification forces the thugs out of town

That's The Plan, Stan.
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              Crump  92arfitjf5md42cn2r2ge7j42dpj9g63br@4ax.com
            zZombie(%)  v1udnTfHsqGzsWP5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
          Crump  bubsfitrvbeclnht4ilnim1kjuas4ga086@4ax.com
        zZombie(%)  v1udnS_HsqGDrGP5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.57pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  GKmcnfpPtZOP02P5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--8.50pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (627) Bad; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 10 {  4:15pm, 2023 }:31^(-7)  七鍋阓
      A _DEEP_ silence.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > Unlike Social Security, blue city rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.
> > S.S. is _given_ to Crump, it's a gift,
> > like what your tribe gives you.
> 
> let him tell me that

No matter what he says, No matter what you say, it's a gift.

Joe Biden stood in front of the House & Senate, Republicans & Democrats,
and boldly asked them if anyone would like to reduce Social Security . . .
 . . . The response was a _DEEP_ silence.
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              Crump  ad6rfi54ib46poakcir123a835n79mhk73@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.23am.Seattle.2023
          Crump  92arfitjf5md42cn2r2ge7j42dpj9g63br@4ax.com
        zZombie(%)  v1udnTfHsqGzsWP5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
      Crump  bubsfitrvbeclnht4ilnim1kjuas4ga086@4ax.com
    zZombie(%)  v1udnS_HsqGDrGP5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (619) Bad; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep 10 {  2:11pm, 2023 }:58^(-7)  七鍋礞
      It's a gift.

zZombie(%) told Crump:
> you are a burden on the people around you and ,
> you live off money you never earned

No, the money is _given_ to him, it's a gift,
like what your tribe gives you to speak their lies.

Unlike Social Security, blue city rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.
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              .  ud3cp5$ki23$1@solani.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--2.28pm.Seattle.2023
          RonB  udi007$43v0$1@dont-email.me
        AndyMatt  uxhLM.868780$U3w1.260939@fx09.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.29am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udkf2r$irqm$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--6.28am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (89)  OK; 10.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep 10 {  6:07am, 2023 }:39  七鍊妛
      Putin _kills_ anyone who doubts him.

Putin _kills_ anyone who doubts him;
his atrocities are well documented... Mass graves, torture, kidnapping.

Again, it's not about right or wrong, it's about who gets away with what
& Putin isn't going to get away with it... see Serbia, 2003.
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              zZombie(%)  OLqcnWzf3ow2S2b5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
            HughHuntzinger  2f57743f-8a92-43fb-a487-6b544b95eb4bn@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
        Crump  ad6rfi54ib46poakcir123a835n79mhk73@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.23am.Seattle.2023
    Crump  92arfitjf5md42cn2r2ge7j42dpj9g63br@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.37am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (929)  OK; 45 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 10 {  4:29am, 2023 }:36^(-4)  七鍉钠
      How many housemates and/or roommates ?

Crump wrote:
> I pay my rent to a private landlord [via] Social Security.

Earlier, you said you didn't pay the MARKET RATE ( 1000 $/month ? ).

How many housemates and/or roommates ?
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              FitFreak  ud331j$kd97$3@solani.org
            HughHuntzinger  b33b7dfe-9be4-47fe-9c7d-9a4e56597332n@googlegroups.com
          .  ud3cp5$ki23$1@solani.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--2.28pm.Seattle.2023
      RonB  udi007$43v0$1@dont-email.me
    AndyMatt  uxhLM.868780$U3w1.260939@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.29am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (152)  OK; 7.1 Minutes, Betterbird, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Sep 10 {  4:13am, 2023 }:30^(-4)  七鍉郚
      America is bad but not yet "BRICS bad".

America is bad but not yet "BRICS bad".

Putin bombs hospitals, elementary schools, and train stations.
Have a nice day.
■
              zZombie(%)  wh6cnZQrTdsk8mb5nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@giganews.com
            HughHuntzinger  1740ca69-2af0-4001-b243-99f1b48aaa3en@googlegroups.com
          zZombie(%)  OLqcnWzf3ow2S2b5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
        HughHuntzinger  2f57743f-8a92-43fb-a487-6b544b95eb4bn@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
    Crump  ad6rfi54ib46poakcir123a835n79mhk73@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--4.23am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (928)  OK; 53.7 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep 10 {  3:26am, 2023 }:56^(-4)  七鍉藰
      public housing ?

Crump wrote:
> I don't live with my mom.

You live in public housing ?
■
              HughHuntzinger  edc4da49-7337-4535-bc8e-7a5ebacb3b2bn@googlegroups.com
            FitFreak  ud331j$kd97$3@solani.org
          HughHuntzinger  b33b7dfe-9be4-47fe-9c7d-9a4e56597332n@googlegroups.com
        .  ud3cp5$ki23$1@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--2.28pm.Seattle.2023
    RonB  udi007$43v0$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (84)  OK; 10.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  9 {  7:37am, 2023 }:59  七鍆敇
      "Idahoan" instant mashed potatoes.

Every country is more independent now; to save the environment,
Idaho will be pitch black at night, like North Korea.

Bread is 4.69 $/loaf.  Gas is 5.25 $/gallon, same as last week.
Rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.

4 oz, 1.44 $ packets of "Idahoan" instant mashed potatoes
are fast like Ramen but taste better.

3 thousand years & nothing has changed in BABYLON/Syria/Iraq.

Life isn't about right or wrong, it's about who can get away with what.

For centuries, America ignored colored Hawaiians as it took Hawaii;
Japs were sent to concentration camps; 
Clinton apologized but it was just lip service, of course.

Putin does the same to Ukraine but _he_ won't get away with it, I think.
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              zZombie(%)  wh6cnZQrTdsk8mb5nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@giganews.com
            HughHuntzinger  1740ca69-2af0-4001-b243-99f1b48aaa3en@googlegroups.com
          zZombie(%)  OLqcnWzf3ow2S2b5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
        HughHuntzinger  2f57743f-8a92-43fb-a487-6b544b95eb4bn@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  EdacnTjKipofrWD5nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--8.49pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 2  (610) Bad; 43.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Sep  9 {  7:57pm, 2023 }: 6^(-7)  七鍈溂
      zZombie(%), Respond with a "book", if you want.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > "%" (zZombie(%)) keeps his cards close to his chest; I think
> > he lives on a reservation, all expenses paid for by his tribe.
> 
> i'm an open book anyone can find anything about me

Does your tribe pay for your housing, zZombie(%) ?

Respond with a "book", if you want.
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              zZombie(%)  wh6cnZQrTdsk8mb5nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@giganews.com
            HughHuntzinger  1740ca69-2af0-4001-b243-99f1b48aaa3en@googlegroups.com
          zZombie(%)  OLqcnWzf3ow2S2b5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
        HughHuntzinger  2f57743f-8a92-43fb-a487-6b544b95eb4bn@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
    HughHuntzinger  6ac96159-ceaf-43e6-a556-0d8684dc59f7n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.58pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (80)  OK; 1 Minutes, GoogleG,  Sep  9 {  7:38pm, 2023 }:15^(PDT)  七鍈樗
      Rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.

"%" (zZombie(%)) is right, Crump is as arrogant as Trump.

You (Huntzinger) replied ( to me ):
> > I'm so damn poor, I'm nerely trespassing on my own hometown.
> 
> If % ’fesses up on his lost wager, he can claw back a little respect by paying up.
> To that end, that 50 $ he owes me is all yours AFAIC, Jeff.

50 $ wouldn't make a difference, in my case.

If I end up living too long, I might have to switch to public housing...
or join the ( up-and-coming ) tent community like a _real_ trendsetter.

Bread is 4.69 $/loaf.  Gas is 5.25 $/gallon, same as last week.
Rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.
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          zZombie(%)  wh6cnZQrTdsk8mb5nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@giganews.com
        HughHuntzinger  1740ca69-2af0-4001-b243-99f1b48aaa3en@googlegroups.com
      zZombie(%)  OLqcnWzf3ow2S2b5nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com
    HughHuntzinger  2f57743f-8a92-43fb-a487-6b544b95eb4bn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.20pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  (78)  OK; 6 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.122.80,  Sep  9 { 11:44am, 2023 }:23^(PDT)  七鍆鼇
      "%" (zZombie(%)) keeps his cards close to his chest.

Everyone knows that you (Huntzinger) have more money than the rest of us.
Dotty is the next richest, followed by DFS.

Crump has no money; he lives with his mom in a nice DC neighborhood.

"%" (zZombie(%)) keeps his cards close to his chest; I think
he lives on a reservation, all expenses paid for by his tribe.

RonB is poor.

rBowman has money but doesn't spend it.

I'm so damn poor, I'm nerely trespassing on my own hometown.
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              onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on  1qgr81x.5gln3i1imu1lzN%onion@anon.invalid
            Crump  839nfi5df5nqtntcpmn5h2isjk80m5ee1e@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f655b0f8d24decb98f0b2@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  r8dnfi10muhvr6qsok6j7642mu02ff2457@4ax.com
      Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6569ea9457292f98f0bd@usnews.blocknews.net
    Crump  43gnfil4as4e6ntf18ihjsq1i0c2796dfg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--8.35pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep  8 {  5:48pm, 2023 }: 2^(-4)  七鍃飂
      Did Jesus have ovaries ? Dark skin ?

Did Jesus have ovaries ? Dark skin ?
■
        .  cnbdfih5vkkalaghcaoormekr8enfdtm8c@4ax.com
      Grant│grant@stone_invalid  7a02e2ffdda033575f2f8b5e9fe90900@dizum.com
    Brian_Wolken│nowomr@protonmail_com  udglog$3tefp$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--8.19pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 12.2 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  8 {  7:37pm, 2023 }: 4  七鍄恐
      "The Global Elite" f*ck Trump, fast & hard.

Wolken:
> How badly do you think Trump will be beaten and raped when he's in prison ?   
> There's a lot of big thick black dick waiting for him.

"The Global Elite" f*ck Trump, fast & hard... not the poor people.

From a March 2020 "News Inside" Survey of 8 thousand Prisoners...

44 % of Democrat prisoners supported tighter border security.

Once imprisoned, Democrats lose their enthusiasm for assault weapons bans.

For people of color, no single 2020 presidential candidate prevailed; 
20 % preferred Biden, 16 % liked Sanders.

Arkansas prisoner William Robinson, 39, a Black man, says;
"Politicians _talk_ about criminal justice reform, President Trump got it done".
 
"I really can’t tell you anything that the Democrats have done in recent years, 
as far as criminal justice reform is concerned, 
that has had an impact comparable to President Trump passing these new laws."
    ...
"Obama is a puppet for big business and for the rich"
"I don’t see Trump as being anyone’s puppet"
"Trump is helping _small_ people in this country."
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              onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on  1qgr81x.5gln3i1imu1lzN%onion@anon.invalid
            Crump  839nfi5df5nqtntcpmn5h2isjk80m5ee1e@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f655b0f8d24decb98f0b2@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  r8dnfi10muhvr6qsok6j7642mu02ff2457@4ax.com
      Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6569ea9457292f98f0bd@usnews.blocknews.net
    Crump  43gnfil4as4e6ntf18ihjsq1i0c2796dfg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--7.48pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep  8 {  5:48pm, 2023 }: 2^(-4)  七鍃飂
      Crump, do you have any kids ?

Do you have any kids, Crump ?
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              onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on  1qgr81x.5gln3i1imu1lzN%onion@anon.invalid
            Crump  839nfi5df5nqtntcpmn5h2isjk80m5ee1e@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f655b0f8d24decb98f0b2@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  r8dnfi10muhvr6qsok6j7642mu02ff2457@4ax.com
      Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f6569ea9457292f98f0bd@usnews.blocknews.net
    Crump  43gnfil4as4e6ntf18ihjsq1i0c2796dfg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--7.31pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Sep  8 {  5:48pm, 2023 }: 2^(-4)  七鍃飂
      Crump, could you rent a market rate apartment ?

Could you rent a market rate apartment, Crump ?

How much are you paying now ?
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              HughHuntzinger  1cb60c75-9296-4860-b3c2-44b4ef6cca63n@googlegroups.com
            FitFreak  ud30i0$kd97$2@solani.org
          HughHuntzinger  edc4da49-7337-4535-bc8e-7a5ebacb3b2bn@googlegroups.com
        FitFreak  ud331j$kd97$3@solani.org
      HughHuntzinger  b33b7dfe-9be4-47fe-9c7d-9a4e56597332n@googlegroups.com
    FitFreak  ud3cp5$ki23$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--2.28pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 18.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Sep  3 {  6:44pm, 2023 }: 5^(-5)  七錯癥
      Sanctioning Russia & China is the best way to curb carbon emissions.

Sanctioning Russia & China is the best way to curb carbon emissions.

Re: Decades of America _NOT_ going after Russia's gas/oil.

Bill Browder, an American-born British financier, wrote "Red Notice" 2015;
his former lawyer, Sergei Magnitzky, was tortured to death in Russia 2005.

April 2022, he published " Freezing Order: A True Story of Money Laundering,
Murder and Surviving Vladimir Putin's Wrath. ".
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  ucv2tm$clpp$3@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--10.41am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  ud1lta$s930$1@dont-email.me
      FitFreak  ud1ueb$t5k6$2@solani.org
    RonB  ud3p4h$1agrd$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.3--10.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (113)  OK; 30.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  3 { 10:14pm, 2023 }:57  七錰嗑
      Putin _CANNOT_ keep Ukraine.

Who, besides Putin, has done more to arm "the global elite" ?
He's a Lucifer, like Hitler & Sargon II, King of Babylon/Syria, 705 BCE:

  How you are fallen from heaven,
  O Putin, son of the morning !

  How you are cut down to the ground,
  Ye who weakened the nations !

  For you have said in your heart:

  " I will ascend into heaven,
    I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;

    I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
    On the farthest sides of the north;

    I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
    I will be like the Most High. "

  Yet ye shall be brought down to the lowest depths.

  Those who see you will gaze at you, and consider you, saying:

    ‘ Is this the man who made the earth tremble,

      Who shook kingdoms,

      Who made the world as a wilderness

      And destroyed its cities,

      Who did not open the house of his prisoners ? ’
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              RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
          RonB  ucv2tm$clpp$3@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--10.41am.Seattle.2023
      RonB  ud1lta$s930$1@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  ae91a3d1-cefb-4008-ab16-85650332ddd6n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.3--1.42pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (66)  OK; 8.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Sep  3 {  4:04am, 2023 }:46^(PDT)  七錬鹎
      Ye shall be brought down to the lowest depths.

Putin is suicidal/homicidal, same as Lucifer & Hitler. 

  How you are fallen from heaven,
  O Putin, son of the morning !

  How you are cut down to the ground,
  Ye who weakened the nations !

  For you have said in your heart:

  ‘ I will ascend into heaven,
    I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;

    I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
    On the farthest sides of the north;

    I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
    I will be like the Most High. ’

  Yet ye shall be brought down to the lowest depths.

  Those who see you will gaze at you, and consider you, saying:

    ‘ Is this the man who made the earth tremble,

      Who shook kingdoms,

      Who made the world as a wilderness

      And destroyed its cities,

      Who did not open the house of his prisoners ? ’

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Isaiah%2014%3A12
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
            rBowman  klfgi2F2ul1U1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--7.53pm.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  klg2piF5hquU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--10.23am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  klhg68FcgngU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--1.04pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (120)  OK; 16.1 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep  2 {  0:19pm, 2023 }:36  七錪擈
      What success ?

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > No one is attacking Russia, rBowman.
> 
> The drones exploding in Moscow got lost on their way? 

Mere gnats, no big deal.

> the violence Lincoln unleashed on the Confederacy
> only had a momentary effect (?!)

What caused what ? you don't know.  If/When things get bad enough, 
the poor (South) rise up against the rich (North).

> the success of the BJP doesn't depend on Gandhi pacifism.
> Or is that also only momentary?

What success ? the RussianStyle genocide ?!
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  ucv2tm$clpp$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--10.41am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  klheumFcgngU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--0.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (118)  OK; 20.5 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep  2 { 11:58am, 2023 }:30  七錪忖
      The life&times of Nathuram Godse !

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > Fact: Putin _CANNOT_ keep Ukraine because, as Gandhi says:
> >   Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
> 
> It ultimately worked for Nathuram Godse.

Notice how many people study the life&times of Nathuram Godse !
comparatively, Gandhi is ignored.    </sarcasm>
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              RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
          RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
      RonB  ucv2tm$clpp$3@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  f14fed22-8b40-4b4c-a33d-d8bd1fb1fb6an@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--0.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (65)  OK; 6.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Sep  2 {  4:04am, 2023 }: 3^(PDT)  七錨钣
      The poor rise up against the rich.

The poor are in the red states, like Mississippi, Idaho ( & Russia );
the rich are in the blue cities, like Seattle & Washington DC.

When things get bad enough, the poor rise up against the rich, 
& the rich are systematically slaughtered.
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              RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
          RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  1c7e67bb-f701-4a1e-9ba9-02815dbe8563n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.38am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  ucv3h9$clpp$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--11.43am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (149)  OK; 6.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  2 {  3:41am, 2023 }:46  七錨轪
      Soros, I'm trying to locate your mistakes.

Re: My tendency to quote very little.

I'm not trying to memorize your talking points, Soros;
no, I'm trying to locate your mistakes.

Besides Putin, Who has done more to arm Finland, Poland & Ukraine ?
Did you get that big fat check, Soros ?

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > The U.S state Department says a 2 year-old North Korean was sentenced
> > to "life in prison" after his parents were caught with a Bible (2009).
> > Putin's Russia isn't that bad _YET_ but he's working on it.
> 
> And North Korea has... WHAT? ... to do with the war in Ukraine ?

Juche. Amish, RonB's, North Korean, Chinese & Russian Juche.
Blackout style; no electricity, fantastic for the environment.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  klfgi2F2ul1U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--7.53pm.Seattle.2023
    RonB  ucv37m$clpp$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--11.19am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (149)  OK; 6.6 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  2 {  3:36am, 2023 }:38  七錨踶
      Putin works for Soros.

Let's assume that you're right, RonB, and I'm wrong, i.e.;
 
  Putin is just disarming his neighbors, not stealing/destroying kids/lands.

In that case, he's been failing miserably for a long time now,
with no victory in sight; he works for Soros.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  ucv2tm$clpp$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--10.41am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (149)  OK; 6.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  2 {  3:31am, 2023 }:19  七錨賷
      Putin _CANNOT_ keep Ukraine.

You (RonB) make it sound like the kid (Putin) killing 
the babushka (Ukraine), to take her SUV, is self-defense.

Fact: Putin _CANNOT_ keep Ukraine because, as Gandhi says:

  Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  klfgi2F2ul1U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--7.53pm.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  klg2piF5hquU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--10.23am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (122)  OK; 10.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep  1 { 11:24pm, 2023 }:50  七錨匲
      rBowman, No one is attacking Russia.

No one is attacking Russia, rBowman.

Russia has taken Ukraine before, this isn't the first time;
but it can't keep it because, as Gandhi says:
  Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  klfgi2F2ul1U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--7.53pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (122)  OK; 50.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Sep  1 {  6:13pm, 2023 }:38  七錧层
      RonB's ( Amish/Putin style ) "Juche blackout" is better for the environment.

rBowman on fighting abroad:
> It wasn't me in '69 and it damn sure ain't me in '23. 

Yeah, as we hippies say: Putin's war against Ukraine is corrupt & unjustified.

RonB's ( Amish/Putin style ) "Juche blackout" is better for the environment.

Worse, it might affect how many rockets Elon musk can buy
for his baby mamas.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.44am.Seattle.2023
            rBowman  kk5b9qF6o1bU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.42am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 5  (139)  OK; 6.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Sep  1 {  4:21am, 2023 }:20  七錤輰
      Putin's war against Ukraine is corrupt & unjustified.

I can see why you agree with Putin, RonB, 
you don't want to fall out of the sky like ⚡⚡Wagner⚡⚡
who spoke out loud what _EVERYONE_ ( except you ) is thinking:

   Putin's war against Ukraine is corrupt & unjustified.

⚡⚡Wagner⚡⚡ knows a fellow Nazi when it sees one,
& Zelenskyy, a Jewish comedian, doesn't qualify.

Like a bug on the wall, Putin's victory is ephemeral, fleeting;
_NO_ONE_ understands why he must destroy Ukraine & steal kids.
" Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. "
  -- Gandhi, May 1919 
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              rBowman  kk5b9qF6o1bU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
          RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
      RonB  ucshfg$3ol70$1@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  1c7e67bb-f701-4a1e-9ba9-02815dbe8563n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--11.38am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (62)  OK; 38.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Sep  1 {  9:48am, 2023 }:11^(PDT)  七錥觋
      RonB leading the charge, shouting Juche !

RonB's unattributed quote is easy to find, to wit:
" the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the 
  technical capabilities of NATO " -- Soros, Nov, 1993.

You (Huntzinger) replied ( to RonB ):
> > Russia has several hypersonic missiles, ...
> 
> No, they don't.  The missile that they're claiming is a nothing burger.

Agreed. I don't see any magic missiles anywhere;
instead, I see _WORLD_WAR_I_ style fighting . . . muddy trenches, 
rock throwing & cursing ( as Einstein famously predicted we'd be doing ).

> Russia is pulling out pre-WW2 tanks out of junkyards.
> Likewise, they're trying to cut a deal with North Korea.

How long before we see North Koreans on the front lines,
with RonB leading the charge ? shouting Juche !

The U.S state Department says a 2 year-old North Korean was sentenced
to "life in prison" after his parents were caught with a Bible (2009).
Putin's Russia isn't that bad _YET_ but he's working on it.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
          AndyMatt  f3MHM.297925$uLJb.34310@fx41.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--2.25pm.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  nMOHM.731738$mPI2.685435@fx15.iad
    ChrisV  ctkveileq5cssqdu3g43t74lag8kktd3rn@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--5.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (138)  OK; 0 Secs, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Aug 30 {  4:42pm, 2023 }:25^(-5)  七錞藡
      Only the good die young, I'll live to 100.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to AndyMatt ):
> > > The poorest are dying like flies.   So what ?!
> >
> > Aren't you part of the poorest?
> 
> Yeah, but he's more like a cockroach, 
> & would likely survive a nuclear blast.

Only the good die young, I'll live to 100.
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              AndyMatt  uw7HM.548905$qnnb.416091@fx11.iad
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  yLaHM.952851$GMN3.628557@fx16.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--5.22pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  21KHM.165494$QQFb.2465@fx38.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  viQHM.732030$mPI2.55669@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--4.56pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (49)  OK; 11.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 30 {  4:30pm, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七錞茠
      4 thousand $/_MONTH_ in property taxes (2022).

My recently deceased neighbor/friend paid nearly 
4 thousand $/_MONTH_ in property taxes (2022);
see Redfin:   5827 16th Ave NE Seattle 98105
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              AndyMatt  uw7HM.548905$qnnb.416091@fx11.iad
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  yLaHM.952851$GMN3.628557@fx16.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--5.22pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  21KHM.165494$QQFb.2465@fx38.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  viQHM.732030$mPI2.55669@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--4.49pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (49)  OK; 11.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 30 {  4:30pm, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七錞茠
      Vittles Vault & soup ladle ?:  Priceless.

A 12x12 room ( 9' ceiling ) in shared housing, Seattle ?:

   One thousand $/month, minimum.

Vittles Vault & soup ladle ?:  Priceless.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  f3MHM.297925$uLJb.34310@fx41.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--2.25pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  nMOHM.731738$mPI2.685435@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--2.59pm.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  UIOcnRdBEJd5IXL5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--4.45pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (554) Bad; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Aug 30 {  3:04pm, 2023 }:19^(-7)  七錞滣
      Money isn't everything.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > Money isn't everything.
> > I know enough, & I have enough, to do well in Seattle.
> 
> so why are you complaining about how it is

I'm not.   It's tricky, it takes planning.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--5.22pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  21KHM.165494$QQFb.2465@fx38.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  f3MHM.297925$uLJb.34310@fx41.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--2.25pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  nMOHM.731738$mPI2.685435@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--2.59pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (204)  OK; 7.5 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 30 {  2:45pm, 2023 }:55^(-4)  七錞檓
      Money isn't everything.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > Seattle is expensive, especially if you own a car.
> > The poorest die like flies.   So what ?!
> 
> Aren't you part of the poorest?

Money isn't everything.
I know enough, & I have enough, to do well in Seattle.
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              AndyMatt  uw7HM.548905$qnnb.416091@fx11.iad
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  yLaHM.952851$GMN3.628557@fx16.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--5.22pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  21KHM.165494$QQFb.2465@fx38.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  f3MHM.297925$uLJb.34310@fx41.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--2.25pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (203)  OK; 2.4 Hours, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 30 { 11:41am, 2023 }:15^(-4)  七錝酋
      The poorest die like flies.

Seattle is expensive, especially if you own a car.

The poorest die like flies.   So what ?!
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              Crump  j1oheit3nub8rq9rbv0usgi53h736rsgls@4ax.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  HdKGM.170693$8_8a.46189@fx48.iad
          AndyMatt  uw7HM.548905$qnnb.416091@fx11.iad
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  yLaHM.952851$GMN3.628557@fx16.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--5.22pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  21KHM.165494$QQFb.2465@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.52am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (46)  OK; 48.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 30 {  9:22am, 2023 }:25^(-4)  七錝烁
      A 12x12 room ( 9' ceiling ) in shared housing, Seattle.

A 12x12 room ( 9' ceiling ) in shared housing, Seattle,
rents for 1 thousand $/month, minimum.
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        .  u0fj2j$2se2h$1@solani.org
      .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.09am.Seattle.2023
    Commander_Kinsey│CK1@nospam_com  op.2ahbf4wkmvhs6z@ryzen
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--10.25am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 9.6 Hours, operaMail➤Win32, Newshosting.COM,  Aug 30 {  0:37am, 2023 }: 6^(1)  七錛馢
      Mad Putin murders dissenters, destroys Ukraine & steals kids.

Kinsey:
> Ukraine started the war.  They mistreated Russians

Mad Putin murders dissenters, destroys Ukraine & steals kids.

" Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. "
  -- Gandhi, May 1919 
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          Crump  j1oheit3nub8rq9rbv0usgi53h736rsgls@4ax.com
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  HdKGM.170693$8_8a.46189@fx48.iad
      AndyMatt  uw7HM.548905$qnnb.416091@fx11.iad
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  yLaHM.952851$GMN3.628557@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--5.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (43)  OK; 23 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 28 {  5:14pm, 2023 }:25^(-4)  七錖穡
      Why are you building this basement room, if I may ask ?

Why are you building this basement room, if I may ask ?
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          Crump  l9jdeid73fp2dbj0hvmuvmu02f6e5jrn1i@4ax.com
        rBowman  kko5n1F89iiU1@mid.individual.net
      ChrisV  p8tmei98kmcqlqbb15q5bo0jdq6kil0vu7@4ax.com
    AndyMatt  0y7HM.548906$qnnb.390601@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--4.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (200)  OK; 2.5 Hours, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 28 {  1:35pm, 2023 }: 7^(-4)  七錕飻
      U.S. Bank rejects anyone with the slightest hint of sophistication.

My (complex) configuration of Mozilla Firefox v90, Developers Edition,
can't log into U.S. Bank, nor can it make payments on Amazon.

U.S. Bank is okay with simple Microsoft Edge users, so I use that then.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.44am.Seattle.2023
            rBowman  kk5b9qF6o1bU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  kl4g2sF901lU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--4.46pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (124)  OK; 2.2 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Aug 28 {  1:58pm, 2023 }: 4  七錕鹜
      Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.

The "God" of the Old Testament fought Babylon.

" Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, 
  and unto God the things that are God's " -- Jesus, the original hippie.

Hitler thought no one could stop him from brutally
enslaving Poland, Ukraine, Austria, Egypt & Russia.
And he was right . . . for a little while.

" Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. "
  -- Gandhi, May 1919 

rBowman:
> The Wehrmacht was too busy in Russia trying to kill 
> the endless supply of Ivans to enslave anybody. 

Writing your own history again ?

Photo:
" A 14-year-old youth from Ukraine repairs damaged motor vehicles 
  in a Berlin workshop of the German Wehrmacht. January 1945. " 

//  "Forced labour under German rule during World War II"
//  contributed to the mass extermination of populations in occupied Europe.
//  
//  The Germans abducted approximately 12 million people from almost 
//  twenty European countries; about two thirds came from Central 
//  Europe and Eastern Europe.
//  
//  Besides Jews, the harshest deportation and forced labor policies were 
//  applied to the populations of Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia. By the end
//  of the war, half of Belarus' population had been killed or deported.
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          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  KR4GM.587080$TCKc.531336@fx13.iad
        Crump  j1oheit3nub8rq9rbv0usgi53h736rsgls@4ax.com
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  HdKGM.170693$8_8a.46189@fx48.iad
    ScottGNU  ucik8c$1nn2r$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.45am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (42)  OK; 18.5 Minutes, BadRig, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 28 { 10:07am, 2023 }:25  七錕桍
      Why is DFS adding rooms to his basement ?

Why is DFS adding rooms to his basement ?

Wife has had enough, I bet.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--11.54pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  5AcsM.353553$65y6.76659@fx17.iad
          AndyMatt  oTmsM.102787$eGef.39723@fx47.iad
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  aZKGM.140276$ZBic.137709@fx44.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.27--10.53am.Seattle.2023
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ut3HM.634322$SuUf.521839@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.40am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (41)  OK; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 28 {  8:57am, 2023 }:15^(-4)  七錕埛
      Visual Studio C/C++, Mozilla Firefox v90, Developers Edition, users.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > I'm like one of those cave animals who can no longer see.
> 
> yuck.  That's how I think of Linux users: little shriveled white moles 
> with beady pink eyes, skulking around up to no good.

Visual Studio C/C++, Mozilla Firefox v90, Developers Edition people,
like me, can be just as nerdy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--0.56am.Seattle.2023
            RonB  ubip0j$3bdh8$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.44am.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  kk5b9qF6o1bU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  uci4qu$1mo1h$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.22am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (133)  OK; 2.8 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 28 {  5:44am, 2023 }:14  七錔粞
      What would Jesus do ( after brutally enslaving his neighbors ) ?!

Hitler thought no one could stop him from brutally
enslaving Poland, Ukraine, Austria, Egypt & Russia.
And he was right . . . for a little while.

What would Jesus do ( after brutally enslaving his neighbors ) ?!
■
              RonB  ubgk6r$2uq5o$3@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  ac45e6ad-d67d-40fa-86b7-a1bbfbe71f64n@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--0.56am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  ubip0j$3bdh8$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.44am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  uci4fb$1mo1h$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--10.13am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (133)  OK; 2.9 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 28 {  5:38am, 2023 }: 4  七錔第
      Putin's ongoing destruction of Ukraine is stupid.

Re: neo-Nazis (Banderists) in 2014.

"Wagner" is as Nazi as it gets, complete with tattoos.

Prigozhin (R.I.P.) famously declared that 
Putin's ongoing destruction of Ukraine is stupid;
and most everyone agrees, including anti-Ukrainian Russians.
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              FromTheRafters│FTR@nomail_afraid_org  uc8sa6$3mjdk$1@dont-email.me
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  uc8u92$3mr85$1@dont-email.me
          FromTheRafters│FTR@nomail_afraid_org  uc9tbf$3vi6t$1@dont-email.me
        pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  ucacli$2bd0$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--7.36am.Seattle.2023
    Brian_Gaff│brian1gaff@gmail_com  uccg33$h4gh$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.27--2.34pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop, UK.D-I-Y
    +-, 1.5 Days, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 26 {  2:19am, 2023 }:26^(1)  七錋讞
      When Dramamine isn't available.

You (Brian) replied ( to me ):
> > If you feel nausea, dizziness or carsick, it's probably HypoTension;
> > lower your head below your heart ( kneel down ) and it goes away.
> 
> Oh thanks, just what we needed to know.. erm..

I just added my 2¢ to the growing list of dubious health tips,
just in case Dramamine isn't available, you know.
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--11.54pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  5AcsM.353553$65y6.76659@fx17.iad
      AndyMatt  oTmsM.102787$eGef.39723@fx47.iad
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  aZKGM.140276$ZBic.137709@fx44.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.27--10.53am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (41)  OK; 48.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 27 {  9:37am, 2023 }:30^(-4)  七錑埊
      I'm like one of those cave animals who can no longer see.

Re: Some smokers make it to 90.  You never know.

I smoke tiny raspberry leaf joints/roaches ( tastes like lawn clippings );
that's it -- no tobacco, no skunk/weed.  Everything in _MODERATION_.
I get plenty of SecondHand smoke, skunk, from my neighbors.

My inability to do simple exercise might be due to cancer, heart damage, covid,
. . . or simply because I'm in bed most of the time ( no rehab ),
like one of those cave animals who can no longer see.
■
              FromTheRafters│FTR@nomail_afraid_org  uc8jb9$3l69b$1@dont-email.me
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  uc8juc$3l6c0$1@dont-email.me
          FromTheRafters│FTR@nomail_afraid_org  uc8sa6$3mjdk$1@dont-email.me
        pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  uc8u92$3mr85$1@dont-email.me
      FromTheRafters│FTR@nomail_afraid_org  uc9tbf$3vi6t$1@dont-email.me
    pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  ucacli$2bd0$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--7.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop, UK.D-I-Y
    ╱ 1  (30)  OK; 14.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 25 {  7:08am, 2023 }:50  七錈珲
      Eat salty snacks and drink lots of water.
              moderation
If you feel nausea, dizziness or carsick, it's probably HypoTension;
kneeling down, head below your heart, is the fix.
Eat salty snacks and drink lots of water.

Spritzing mouthwash stops toothaches & remedies a dry & itchy throat,
so you don't Cough, Snore or MouthBreathe.
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        ScottOT  v2rEM.468621$qnnb.6183@fx11.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--10.01am.Seattle.2023
    soup│invalid@invalid_com  uc77lf$3dfbm$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--2.53am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (5)  OK; 20.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 24 {  2:25am, 2023 }: 4^(1)  七錃称
      Why do you smoke skunk ?

You (soup) replied ( to me ):
> I smoke ( HandRolled ) raspberry leaves ( tastes like lawn clippings );
> that's it -- no tobacco, no skunk/weed.  Everything in _MODERATION_.
> 
> WHY ?

Why do you smoke skunk ?

Why do you roll joints ?

Why do you cook curries ?
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--4.04pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Jail used to be the deterrent.

"Gweilo 60" says jail used to be the deterrent, now it's (cheaper) tent cities.
    Youtube.COM/watch?v=GirDZV3iFnM

--  Imagine if the number of apartments (!transistors) in a city (!chip)
    doubled about every two years ( Moore's law ).
■
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--7.46am.Seattle.2023
    zZombie(%)  KMGdnSRYlriRVnn5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.08am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (435) Bad; 2.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Aug 22 {  7:49am, 2023 }:48^(-7)  七鋼愌
      Sh*tting in the produce section.

You (zZombie(%)) replied ( to me ):
> > Imagine if the number of apartments (!transistors) in a city (!chip)
> > doubled about every two years ( Moore's law ).
> 
> all those flushing toilets

As opposed to what ? sh*tting in the produce section ?
thinning the herd ( sickest first ) ?
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--7.46am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Moore's law.

Imagine if the number of apartments (!transistors) in a city (!chip)
doubled about every two years ( Moore's law ).
■
              Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f4b2a479b0deb2a98c664@usnews.blocknews.net
            ScottGNU  ubt5me$1c2cp$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.13am.Seattle.2023
        HughHuntzinger  06600b1c-41ea-4917-b8e0-1855e1daef38n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--10.33am.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  4fe7eip1rc2le0fjlapglei03h5j6ipt8g@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--0.51pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (145)  OK; 10.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Aug 21 {  0:34pm, 2023 }: 6^(-5)  七鋸騮
_KIDS_ living on the streets. 

In Seattle, Social Security checks should track the price of rent IN SEATTLE,
not the price of computers ( which often cost half as much for twice the value ).

That's how you get _KIDS_ living on the streets, 
painfully dying, in front of everyone.

Imagine if a 2024 presidential candidate acknowledged this ?!
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              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f4a86923f3197fe98e918@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  v4o1ei1k1todr23on5idkgi55np3mibq32@4ax.com
          Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f4b2a479b0deb2a98c664@usnews.blocknews.net
        ScottGNU  ubt5me$1c2cp$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.13am.Seattle.2023
    HughHuntzinger  06600b1c-41ea-4917-b8e0-1855e1daef38n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--10.33am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (60)  OK; 34 Minutes, GoogleG,  Aug 21 {  9:27am, 2023 }:33^(PDT)  七鋸湵
      Imagine if a 2024 presidential candidate acknowledged this ?!

It's a crime that ever better/cheaper computers have a _NonZero_ weighting
in the CPI that's used to adjust Social Security checks.

<< BLS' "Rent of Primary Residence" in Greater Seattle's "CPI-U" >>
is the inflation indicator that matters most because it puts people
out on the street, where Seattle watches them "deservedly" die. 

Imagine if a 2024 presidential candidate acknowledged this ?!
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    ScottyOT  v2rEM.468621$qnnb.6183@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--10.01am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (16)  OK; 1.9 Minutes, BadRig, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 20 {  9:19am, 2023 }:39  七鋴挛
      I cannot tolerate censorship, hence: "Blocknews.NET".

ScottyOT:
> if anyone else actually cares to hear
> the tale of the stormy seas of being a Usenet
> admin, I might be able to drag it out of me.
> I suspect it will be dry.

I'll hear it.  Why isn't "slrn" in your headers ?!
I cannot tolerate censorship, hence: "Blocknews.NET".

> I can also explain why altruism, though ultimately selfish, 
> is better than no altruism.  

I suspect that you're only altruistic in your sweet dreams.

In their sweet dreams, Hitler & Hirohito ( Putin & Xi ) control the planet.
           ---
<< BLS' "Rent of Primary Residence" in Greater Seattle's "CPI-U" >>
is the inflation indicator that matters most because it puts people
out on the street, where Seattle watches them "deservedly" die. 
           ---
My life was fine, prior to the pandemic; afterwards, I've been 
99.7 % bedridden ( I can empty my WellSealed chamber pot );
it might be heart damage, I don't know.

Before blaming me, consider this: I only smoke a tiny bit of
( HandRolled ) raspberry leaves ( tastes like lawn clippings );
that's it -- no tobacco, no skunk/weed.  Everything in _MODERATION_.

I was born in Seattle, South side of Ravenna, Jan 1960; I still live nearby.
I'm a 6 ft male, 240 lbs, with hypotension, low stamina & weak legs ( arms OK ).

I can't stand up for long ( ~3 min, arms extended, for balance )
before I need to kneel down, head on the ground ( ~5 min ) like a Muslim;
were I to raise my head too soon, I'd feel dizzy/sick.

My mouth & throat get dry, spritzing mouthwash prevents coughing/snoring;
I feel best when I eat more salty snacks and drink extra water;
it's like an intravenous salt drip but cheaper/better.
■
              Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f49bf15b02b6fc898c653@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  t390eid2l28vgu7dnboqh381n9a32ell6b@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f4a86923f3197fe98e918@usnews.blocknews.net
        Crump  v4o1ei1k1todr23on5idkgi55np3mibq32@4ax.com
      Checkmate│moderator-wida@baseball_bat  MPG.3f4b2a479b0deb2a98c664@usnews.blocknews.net
    ScottNaughty  ubt5me$1c2cp$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.13am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (32)  OK; 2.1 Hours, BadRig, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 20 {  6:50am, 2023 }: 7  七鋳鈏
      My only terminal was a paperless line printer.

Back in the day, my only terminal was a paperless line printer
( it typed braille on my ass ) </sarcasm>.
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              .  e1mhsg5f3v893cmmpqju6fn9d80tnqeoqh@4ax.com
            .  sqqfc8$qqq$2@dont-email.me
          .  Fq3AJ.83840$aY3.30049@fx21.iad
        .  srcv38$2qr$3@dont-email.me
      .  1hnCJ.23516$Q11.22204@fx33.iad
    Transheuser-Busch│transheuser-busch@gmail_com  442bbf7136be77bf0896554db594f04a@dizum.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--2.52am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Society.Liberalism, Alt.Transgendered, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 8.8 Hours, BadRig, Dizum.COM,  Aug 19 {  5:46pm, 2023 }: 0^(CEST)  七鋱繈
      ...in other news... Putin & Xi control the planet.

> __ a 21-year-old transgender man who was eight months pregnant __
> florida-man-kills-pregnant-trans-partner-murder-suicide

....in other news... Putin & Xi control the planet.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.19--11.34am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      In their dreams, Hitler & Hirohito ( Putin & Xi ) dominate the world.

In their dreams, Hitler & Hirohito ( Putin & Xi ) control the planet.
■
              RonB  ubgk6r$2uq5o$3@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  ac45e6ad-d67d-40fa-86b7-a1bbfbe71f64n@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--0.56am.Seattle.2023
        RonB  ubip0j$3bdh8$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.44am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  kk5b9qF6o1bU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--0.11am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (153)  OK; 5.6 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Aug 16 {  6:26pm, 2023 }:20  七鋥欼
      NATO has has yet to wake up & and put on its pants.

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > Putin mimics Hitler: first the sucker punch, then the fail.
> 
> The Ukraine can't take many more of Putin's failures.

NATO has has yet to wake up & and put on its pants;
when it does, it'll be Serbia 2003 all over again.
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              rBowman  kjvjjvF88kbU3@mid.individual.net
            AndyMatt  ikyCM.129174$8_8a.127614@fx48.iad
          RonB  ubgk6r$2uq5o$3@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  ac45e6ad-d67d-40fa-86b7-a1bbfbe71f64n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--0.56am.Seattle.2023
    RonB  ubip0j$3bdh8$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.44am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (177)  OK; 22.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug 16 {  8:12am, 2023 }:19  七鋣罓
      Putin mimics Hitler: first the sucker punch, then the fail.

Putin mimics Hitler: first the sucker punch, then the fail.
■
              HughHuntzinger  b1bd1f61-fef7-4d12-9a53-f340013bbd52n@googlegroups.com
            AndyMatt  u9vCM.538192$SuUf.59406@fx14.iad
          rBowman  kjvjjvF88kbU3@mid.individual.net
        AndyMatt  ikyCM.129174$8_8a.127614@fx48.iad
      RonB  ubgk6r$2uq5o$3@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  ac45e6ad-d67d-40fa-86b7-a1bbfbe71f64n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--0.56am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (70)  OK; 7.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Aug 15 {  4:16pm, 2023 }:22^(PDT)  七鋠镆
      help Putin kill "SubHuman" Americans/Ukrainians.

RonB should move to Russia where he can 
help Putin kill "SubHuman" Americans/Ukrainians.
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--6.09pm.Seattle.2023
            Swilly  48s0dihc4etgsigbtrav14peobgnfrn14u@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--9.47pm.Seattle.2023
        Swilly  ao51di1gtutu6llidacev20a5jb12k7d6f@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--1.55am.Seattle.2023
    nickname_unavailable│because_shitbag_was_taken@gmail_com  qNYCM.670462$AsA.133967@fx18.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--11.53pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (2) Bad; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Easynews.COM,  Aug 15 { 10:04pm, 2023 }:22^(-7)  七鋡铖
      Killing those who can't handle 10%/year rent increases.

Re: How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?

> Blue states are economically more successful than shithole red states, 
> and economic success leads to higher house prices, 
> which leads to homelessness for people who can't cut it.

So, instead of killing Jewish intellectuals, like Hitler did,
you kill those who can't handle 10%/year rent increases.

Makes sense (not).
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              Ellis│ellisisland@nyu_edu  XnsB05CDA9AB8A15C703@0.0.0.0
            Gary│nowomr@protonmail_com  ub8l6j$1fd8k$3@dont-email.me
          HughHuntzinger  b1bd1f61-fef7-4d12-9a53-f340013bbd52n@googlegroups.com
        AndyMatt  u9vCM.538192$SuUf.59406@fx14.iad
      rBowman  kjvjjvF88kbU3@mid.individual.net
    AndyMatt  ikyCM.129174$8_8a.127614@fx48.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--4.35pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (272)  OK; 18.4 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Aug 14 {  3:58pm, 2023 }:21^(-4)  七鋜融
      Russia has been gaining territory because it's been the strongest.

Russia has been gaining territory because it's been the strongest.

Russians, Germans and Turkey have been stealing parts of Ukraine, Crimea
and Poland for centuries; when times get bad, old conflicts resurface.

Anyone would be "happy to be Soviet" if it meant that St Putin 
wouldn't freeze/starve him to death in a Siberian gulag.
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              Crump  22bbdih208ap68ov0k7j774s04cttl2mrj@4ax.com
            Ellis│ellisisland@nyu_edu  XnsB05CDA9AB8A15C703@0.0.0.0
          Gary│nowomr@protonmail_com  ub8l6j$1fd8k$3@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  b1bd1f61-fef7-4d12-9a53-f340013bbd52n@googlegroups.com
      AndyMatt  u9vCM.538192$SuUf.59406@fx14.iad
    rBowman  kjvjjvF88kbU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--3.35pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (150)  OK; 1.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Aug 14 {  2:11pm, 2023 }:29  七鋜溁
      Good Times.

rBowman
> Ukrainians were "happy little Soviets" [sic] at the time [ WWII ]

"Happy to be Soviets" if it meant they didn't have to freeze/starve 
to death while slaving away in a Siberian gulag... good times.
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              HughHuntzinger  2c4327f1-6589-44b6-8575-21732c13f31en@googlegroups.com
            rBowman  kjlhh8Fk1odU1@mid.individual.net
          HughHuntzinger  6d6c8a45-18ed-452e-80ae-273e01b5420dn@googlegroups.com
        rBowman  kjlvkjFm7e8U1@mid.individual.net
      RonB  ub4kjl$oilf$1@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  c45048c1-9d3d-4c79-aa65-006f9dc0de04n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--6.15am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (82)  OK; 22.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Aug 11 {  5:36am, 2023 }:50^(PDT)  七鋎絢
      Adjusted for inflation, A. Busch’s losses are unsustainable !

Huntzinger:
> [ 2q 2023 ] Anheuser-Busch’s corporate revenues were up [ 4.59% YOY ]

Every morning, the sun comes up; every year, rent goes up 10 %.
Homelessness & organized crime dig in, gaining new footholds.

Adjusted for inflation, A. Busch’s losses are unsustainable !
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              AndyMatt  Pm4BM.665221$GMN3.374277@fx16.iad
            HughHuntzinger  ef4a5363-836e-45df-8be2-7327e9b76dfcn@googlegroups.com
          rBowman  kjka24FdodoU1@mid.individual.net
        HughHuntzinger  2c4327f1-6589-44b6-8575-21732c13f31en@googlegroups.com
      rBowman  kjlhh8Fk1odU1@mid.individual.net
    HughHuntzinger  6d6c8a45-18ed-452e-80ae-273e01b5420dn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--8.08pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (81)  OK; 45.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Aug 10 {  6:55pm, 2023 }:12^(PDT)  七鋌謀
      Farcebook hides the truth & promotes lies.

Farcebook hides the truth & promotes lies, same as everyone else.

Every cult needs an apocalypse.
Everyone believes what he _needs_ to believe; division is inevitable.
On her forehead was written, “ Babylon the great, Mother of harlots ”.
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              NoBody│NoBody@nowhere_com  pn8vci9ubehmsct95932dgilvso328i7jo@4ax.com
            Mr_B1ack│bykkker@dogshit~rag_nut  0tRzM.65795$RDRe.60553@fx06.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--6.09pm.Seattle.2023
        Swilly  48s0dihc4etgsigbtrav14peobgnfrn14u@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--9.47pm.Seattle.2023
    Swilly  ao51di1gtutu6llidacev20a5jb12k7d6f@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--1.55am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╳ 1  (55) Bad; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Aug  7 {  0:03am, 2023 }:38^(-4)  七銽孊
      How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?

You (Swilly) replied ( to me ):
> > Jimmy Carter's stagflation was his downfall.
> 
> Inflation is already at Fed target.

How do you explain homelessness in blue states ?                                                             n 

<< BLS' "Rent of Primary Residence" in Greater Seattle's "CPI-U" >>
is the inflation indicator that matters most because it 
puts you out on the street, where people watch you die. 

"CPI-U", Greater Seattle, "Rent of Primary Residence" was 472.469 June 30, 2023,
up 9.8 % from June 30, 2022.  Up 4.06 %/YEAR since 1984,
4.72469 ^ ( 1/( 2023 - 1984 )).
  BLS.GOV/Regions/West/news-release/ConsumerPriceIndex_Seattle.HTM

January 1, 2022, my rent went up 9.8 % from January 1, 2021.
January 1, 2024, my rent will go up 9.8 % from January 1, 2023.
( 9.8 % is the maximum allowed before penalties kick in )

On average, all of Seattle is experiencing this, not just me.
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              Charlie_Glock│Charlie_Glock@localhost_com  XTqzM.44069$fRmf.5919@fx02.iad
            Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@www_yahoo_com  ualevq$1o10m$2@dont-email.me
          NoBody│NoBody@nowhere_com  pn8vci9ubehmsct95932dgilvso328i7jo@4ax.com
        Mr_B1ack│bykkker@dogshit~rag_nut  0tRzM.65795$RDRe.60553@fx06.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--6.09pm.Seattle.2023
    Swilly  48s0dihc4etgsigbtrav14peobgnfrn14u@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--9.47pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (54) Bad; 17.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Aug  6 {  9:21pm, 2023 }: 7^(-4)  七銼蜳
      Wasn't Jimmy Carter's stagflation his downfall ?!

You (Swilly) replied ( to me ):
> > Joe Biden's inflation tax takes housing from the poorest.
> 
> Your rent went up and it's the President's fault ?

Joe Biden's inflation hasn't taxed the homeless ?!

Wasn't Jimmy Carter's stagflation his downfall ?!
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              Schadenfreude  tu1rci9q3l5f4df58gm1gbdsci521h43on@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--6.11pm.Seattle.2023
          Charlie_Glock│Charlie_Glock@localhost_com  XTqzM.44069$fRmf.5919@fx02.iad
        Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@www_yahoo_com  ualevq$1o10m$2@dont-email.me
      NoBody│NoBody@nowhere_com  pn8vci9ubehmsct95932dgilvso328i7jo@4ax.com
    Mr_B1ack│bykkker@dogshit~rag_nut  0tRzM.65795$RDRe.60553@fx06.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--6.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (2)  OK; 6.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Easynews.COM,  Aug  6 { 11:17am, 2023 }:31^(-7)  七銺鶻
      Joe Biden's inflation tax takes housing from the poorest.

Joe Biden's inflation tax takes housing from the poorest.

"CPI-U", Greater Seattle, "Rent of Primary Residence" was 472.469 June 30, 2023,
up 9.8 % from June 30, 2022.  Up 4.06 %/YEAR since 1984,
4.72469 ^ ( 1/( 2023 - 1984 )).
  BLS.GOV/Regions/West/news-release/ConsumerPriceIndex_Seattle.HTM

January 1, 2022, my rent went up 9.8 % from January 1, 2021.
January 1, 2024, my rent will go up 9.8 % from January 1, 2023.
( 9.8 % is the maximum allowed before penalties kick in )

On average, all of Seattle is experiencing this, not just me.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--2.51pm.Seattle.2023
            slothe│slothe@netcom_com  uak0gb$2men$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com
          Schadenfreude  tu1rci9q3l5f4df58gm1gbdsci521h43on@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--6.11pm.Seattle.2023
      Charlie_Glock│Charlie_Glock@localhost_com  XTqzM.44069$fRmf.5919@fx02.iad
    Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@www_yahoo_com  ualevq$1o10m$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5--5.55am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (35)  OK; 25.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug  5 {  5:23am, 2023 }:22^(-7)  七銵錺
      Capitol Hill & Joe Biden's inflation tax.

Cruise:
> > > Per capita, Washington DC makes 2.4x what Mississippi does ( 63,793 $ vz 26,807 ).
> 
> Who keeps cutting taxes for the haves and reducing benefits for the have nots ?

That'd be Capitol Hill & Joe Biden's inflation tax.

"Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer. 

Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden, 
sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
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              Gerald│nowomr@protonmail_com  uajhoc$1cmb5$4@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--2.51pm.Seattle.2023
          slothe│slothe@netcom_com  uak0gb$2men$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com
        Schadenfreude  tu1rci9q3l5f4df58gm1gbdsci521h43on@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--6.11pm.Seattle.2023
    Charlie_Glock│Charlie_Glock@localhost_com  XTqzM.44069$fRmf.5919@fx02.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5--5.46am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (34) Bad; 15.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Blocknews.NET,  Aug  5 {  5:03am, 2023 }: 3  七銵蹷
      Worship St. Putin or fall out a window.

Glock:
> China, Russia and the Middle East will take over the world.

China, Russia & the Middle East are morphing into North Korea.

According to the U.S state Department, 
a two-year-old North Korean was sentenced "life in prison", 
back in 2009, after his parents were caught with a Bible.

In Shanghai, 2023, police regularly inspect the contents of your phone,
( e.g. by surprising you on the bus ) looking for VPN's & such.

In Russia, you either worship St. Putin or fall out a window.
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              HughHuntzinger  ab04e5b9-f533-42bc-89b9-8a450bb143e4n@googlegroups.com
            ChrisV  moikciluk1k1ottun49iion8f4qvgmgcm6@4ax.com
          Gerald│nowomr@protonmail_com  uajhoc$1cmb5$4@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--2.51pm.Seattle.2023
      slothe│slothe@netcom_com  uak0gb$2men$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com
    Schadenfreude  tu1rci9q3l5f4df58gm1gbdsci521h43on@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--6.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (367) Bad; 29 Minutes, F_Agent, Giganews.COM,  Aug  4 {  4:25pm, 2023 }: 6^(-7)  七銳胒
      Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden, sh*t covered grannies.

Per capita, Washington DC makes 2.4x what Mississippi does ( 63,793 $ vz 26,807 ).

"Let them drive Teslas." -- First Marie Antoinette, then (clueless) Joe Biden.

"Rob Li'l Volod to pay Big Joe." -- "Technically guilty" (Big) Joe Biden. 
    [ "That's wrong" -- "technically innocent" Trump ]

"Your race defines you." -- Joe Biden, Mein Führer. 

  Louisville Kentucky hospitals dumping bedridden, 
  sh*t covered "grannies" on rainy, 35°F sidewalks:
      YouTube.COM/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
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              Schadenfreude  900gci92g0oq16mmtfjvaos9rvlgi3l40k@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
            Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsB052D8B0586Dnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.55
          ChrisV  lpnicil8qtv1goqceakka9qbhmfehb9rko@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  ab04e5b9-f533-42bc-89b9-8a450bb143e4n@googlegroups.com
      ChrisV  moikciluk1k1ottun49iion8f4qvgmgcm6@4ax.com
    Gerald│nowomr@protonmail_com  uajhoc$1cmb5$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4--2.51pm.Seattle.2023
  ➤Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    +-, 2.7 Hours, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Aug  4 { 11:58am, 2023 }:20  七銲鑌
      On average, Democrats earn 26.1 % more than Republicans.

> All the Republicans I know drive cars from China.

On average, Democrats earn 26.1 % more than Republicans. 
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              Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsB052D8B0586Dnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.55
            ChrisV  lpnicil8qtv1goqceakka9qbhmfehb9rko@4ax.com
          Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsB053D61A6D5CBnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.58
        HughHuntzinger  beab6cb8-354b-44b7-90c4-85b0408d0058n@googlegroups.com
      AndyMatt  b%tyM.377812$mPI2.292248@fx15.iad
    HughHuntzinger  2195e665-697f-48bf-8e4d-b5c06e86c0f3n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--1.02pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (77)  OK; 4.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Aug  2 {  8:18am, 2023 }:16^(PDT)  七銩龸
      Joe Biden is so f*cked in the head that it actually bothers me.

You (Huntzinger) replied ( to AndyMatt ):
> > > the anti-LGBTQ+ “grooming” narrative has grown since Musk’s takeover. 
> > > 
> > > anti-hate-lawsuit
> >
> > Except that "anti-hate" has, so far, been  
> > "anything which disagrees with the established leftist narrative." 
> 
> But for a “free speech absolutist”, that’s not supposed to matter.
> Therein lies their hypocrisy.

Joe Biden is so f*cked in the head that it actually bothers me.
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              Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsB052885EEBDF5noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.56
            Schadenfreude  900gci92g0oq16mmtfjvaos9rvlgi3l40k@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com
          Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsB052D8B0586Dnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.55
        ChrisV  lpnicil8qtv1goqceakka9qbhmfehb9rko@4ax.com
      Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsB053D61A6D5CBnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.58
    HughHuntzinger  beab6cb8-354b-44b7-90c4-85b0408d0058n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--0.50pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (77)  OK; 7.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Aug  2 {  5:11am, 2023 }:30^(PDT)  七銩珲
      Joe Biden _must_ believe.

Joe Biden _must_ believe that robbing Peter to pay Paul is the right thing to do
( anything else would be "hate" ).
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              ChrisV  8o4rbih4dpbrhcp6qbjut5rv1rm6s0r7qg@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--2.07pm.Seattle.2023
          ChrisV  vvstbilsuf43358d9cof400ttuhuorh36u@4ax.com
        Crump  bg6ubidogb49ildpm8s5tof2vlolegrm25@4ax.com
      ChrisV  58dvbi5v2gqidhf65d001dmlvg6l5rbhht@4ax.com
    Chris_Ahlstrom│OFeem1987@teleworm_us  u9tnt6$1shbn$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--8.41am.Seattle.2023
  ➤Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 3.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 27 {  5:28am, 2023 }:21^(-4)  七銐郥
      What did Ahlstrom write, exactly ?

Ahlstrom:
> Been doing a hella lotta C++ programming on my Linux laptops.

What did you write, exactly ?
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              Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f25ea83f20fc69c98df69@usnews.blocknews.net
            Crump  u8lobilasaue810vd56le54840jir7br70@4ax.com
          Skeeter│Skeeterweed@proton_me  MPG.3f26104e2cda9fc398df73@usnews.blocknews.net
        snipeco_2@gmail_com(Sn!pe  1qeapvz.1at26felnprhtN%snipeco.2@gmail.com
      Crump  7gvobilm5fif8ohpm496g387ffoderu7ct@4ax.com
    ChrisV  8o4rbih4dpbrhcp6qbjut5rv1rm6s0r7qg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--2.07pm.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Transgendered, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  (135)  OK; 6.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 23 {  1:56pm, 2023 }: 6^(-5)  七銁迦
      Win11 is crap, Win8 was crap.

> Win10: 71.11 %; Win11: 23.91 % 

Win11 is crap, Win8 was crap.
Every other operating system from Microsoft is (relative) crap.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--5.55am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  U4bvM.153984$TPw2.2206@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--8.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (320)  OK; 38.7 Minutes, Betterbird, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 23 {  7:48am, 2023 }:20^(-4)  七銀讴
      Explosive Diarrhea.

AndyMatt:
> The only right thing to do to AntiFa and its sympathizers is to hang them,

AntiFa are rich kids who are allergic to gluten, peanuts, cheese,
& food in general; everything gives them explosive diarrhea.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--5.55am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      When communism first begins.

When communism first begins, 
millions of city folk are killed and/or sent to small farms,
where they starve to death.

After these "nasty landlords" are tortured & killed,
then everything reverts back to ordinary capitalism, 
but with the (newly rich) "Communists" now running the show;
~6 years ago, China's Congress had more than 100 billionaire$.
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              ChrisV  hqfgbid24s4kgkarjkh5s1atpnmb6gjs6e@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  70947f6e-57e9-405f-96d0-787e870bdc2en@googlegroups.com
          ChrisV  tuugbi96jca7e12ub998vcnpt5uk8e3oqt@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  d5001f26-4e9a-49fe-a16e-a9f784fbd023n@googlegroups.com
      rBowman  khrmeiF6hqnU6@mid.individual.net
    HughHuntzinger  df261b79-c83b-474d-b0fc-fa53acf60ff9n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.20--3.18am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (80)  OK; 21.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jul 20 {  2:43am, 2023 }:30^(PDT)  七鉳秂
      Massively DUMB Boomers driving economic growth.

Re: Massively DUMB Boomers driving economic growth.

Women want a "sugar daddy", i.e. Mr. Rich, Sweet, Loyal & DUMB.
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              Alan│nuh-uh@nope_com  u99bli$29827$1@dont-email.me
            ChrisV  hqfgbid24s4kgkarjkh5s1atpnmb6gjs6e@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  70947f6e-57e9-405f-96d0-787e870bdc2en@googlegroups.com
        ChrisV  njugbi9kvcqri17cmd7u928bo4dfkb1gsj@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  f32496e5-211a-4894-959d-2e429b1d8161n@googlegroups.com
    rBowman  khrm8tF6hqnU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.20--2.26am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (163)  OK; 5.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 19 {  7:59pm, 2023 }:43  七鉲洟
      "Rent of Primary Residence"

"CPI-U", Greater Seattle, "Rent of Primary Residence" was 472.469 June 30, 2023,
up 9.8 % from June 30, 2022.  Up 4.06 %/YEAR from 1984, 4.72469 ^ ( 1/( 2023 - 1984 )).
  BLS.GOV/Regions/West/news-release/ConsumerPriceIndex_Seattle.HTM

January 1, 2022, my rent went up 9.8 % from January 1, 2021.
January 1, 2024, my rent will go up 9.8 % from January 1, 2023.
( 9.8 % is the maximum allowed before penalties kick in )

On average, all of Seattle is experiencing this, not just me.
■
              me4guns  u98p1l$25q1t$26@dont-email.me
            Alan│nuh-uh@nope_com  u98roh$264ie$1@dont-email.me
          me4guns  u9962g$289dp$2@dont-email.me
        Alan│nuh-uh@nope_com  u99bli$29827$1@dont-email.me
      ChrisV  hqfgbid24s4kgkarjkh5s1atpnmb6gjs6e@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  70947f6e-57e9-405f-96d0-787e870bdc2en@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.19--4.48pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (77)  OK; 4.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jul 19 {  4:24pm, 2023 }:37^(PDT)  七鉱貵
      Running out of Peters, bloody theft.

Huntzinger says we should:
> cool inflation by raising taxes

The problem with robbing Peter to pay Paul is that you run out of Peters.
Initially, communism is bloody theft; later, it's ordinary capitalism;
~6 years ago, China's Congress had more than 100 billionaire$.

Leaky shacks sell for million$;
fall asleep, & they're selling for billion$ when you wake up.

Filthy rich Democrats are on the happy side of this "deal";
they refinance & live like kings, income tax free.
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    rBowman  khof60FleifU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--3.17pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (157)  OK; 19.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 18 {  2:40pm, 2023 }:16  七鉭櫀
      "Linux" is a GNU/Linux DeskTop "distro".

rBowman:
> Is Chrome "Linux" ?

"Linux" is a GNU/Linux DeskTop "distro".

GoogleChrome is an OpenSource, HandHeld, BrowserCentric OperatingSystem
built on the OpenSource Linux kernel.
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              AndyMatt  ZGktM.4$PlBb.2@fx42.iad
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  u94n78$1cv4b$1@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  FNltM.9$AsA.1@fx18.iad
        pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  u94prs$1gudo$1@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  CWttM.5568$AsA.4073@fx18.iad
    HughHuntzinger  66775ffa-27e5-4f27-94cc-aef6f9118882n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--5.14am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (80)  OK; 49 Secs, GoogleG,  Jul 18 {  5:09am, 2023 }:51^(PDT)  七鉫褏
      We believe what we need to believe.

Huntzinger:
> you can't cope with reality, so you desperately cling to propaganda.

High of 77°f (25°c) here in Seattle today, low is 56° (13°c); 
sunny, no rain.  I keep my room at (or below) 69°f (21°c).

We believe what we need to believe.
Every cult clings to it's "precious" (bullshit) apocalypse;
Russia is no exception, NATO is worse. 

Initially, (Russian) communism is bloody theft;
later, it's ordinary capitalism.

Last 2 years, Seattle, rent increased 21 %;
not just for me but for all of Seattle, on average.

Leaky shacks sell for million$;
fall asleep, & they're selling for billion$ when you wake up.

Filthy rich Democrats are on the happy side of this "deal";
they refinance & live like kings, income tax free.
■
              Bob_Campbell│nunya@none_none  mNydnUfx-8bxzCz5nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com
            rBowman  khdasuFrm9vU3@mid.individual.net
          me4guns  u8s3un$3imf$2@dont-email.me
        rBowman  khdsp8F8nsU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.57pm.Seattle.2023
    me4guns  u93ht3$18ttg$19@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--0.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 6 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 17 {  6:14am, 2023 }:11^(-5)  七鉧躣
      They refinance & live like kings, income tax free.

Last 2 years, Seattle, rent increased 21 %;
not just for me but for all of Seattle, on average.

Leaky shacks sell for million$;
fall asleep, & they're selling for billion$ when you wake up.

Filthy rich Democrats are on the happy side of this "deal";
they refinance & live like kings, income tax free.
■
              ChrisV  40a3bi5ug8dpjgih4h9kvvarkubgosql85@4ax.com
            rBowman  khdtq6F8nsU3@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.55pm.Seattle.2023
        me4guns  u93htd$18ttg$30@dont-email.me
      😎_Mighty_Wannabe│@_  XGctM.167353$YL1.76708@fx04.ams1
    me4guns  u9403k$1ahjh$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--0.05pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (256) Bad; 2.6 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 17 {  9:15am, 2023 }:17^(-5)  七鉨朕
      Right to repair.

The ATX case ( like the IBM AT ) is the best & most comfortable;
it has the most support from hobbyists & third-party vendors;
otherwise, we'll be filling up landfills with unfixable crap. 

Right to repair.
■
              Crump  46e3bitadc8q4v32gb45bupemtcdpd42qf@4ax.com
            ChrisV  4tn5bip0nbnbbe913pl5679jlj4307e3o2@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--0.41pm.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  ksf8bit0bd7535nmd4blv2rs7ttaknr84l@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--1.21pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  hn2abihcuhj4bege32i3j7t75hdt0gn0fq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--6.55am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (137)  OK; 2.6 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 17 {  3:34am, 2023 }:46^(-5)  七鉧楆
      Why does she need a 2 thousand $ RTX-4090 ?

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > Why does she need a 2 thousand $ RTX-4090 ?
> 
> she is a gamer and a professional digital artist.

Sounds right.
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              ChrisV  40a3bi5ug8dpjgih4h9kvvarkubgosql85@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.53pm.Seattle.2023
          Crump  46e3bitadc8q4v32gb45bupemtcdpd42qf@4ax.com
        ChrisV  4tn5bip0nbnbbe913pl5679jlj4307e3o2@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--0.41pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  ksf8bit0bd7535nmd4blv2rs7ttaknr84l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--1.21pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (136)  OK; 23.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 16 {  0:19pm, 2023 }:25^(-5)  七鉤袽
      Why does she need a 2 thousand $ RTX-4090 ?

Why does she need a 2 thousand $ RTX-4090 ?

> [it] should last five years, easy.

I tried to discover the warranty but I couldn't find one.
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            ChrisV  40a3bi5ug8dpjgih4h9kvvarkubgosql85@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  57fee086-f228-4230-8a10-3146974ad10bn@googlegroups.com
        Crump  u9d3bi5f0s9e36dhssai0a7ea064v53js5@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  b07187da-77e0-44b6-881b-65e5aa3c80b9n@googlegroups.com
    AndyMatt  vSSsM.269467$RIra.141493@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--8.05am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (309)  OK; 32.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 16 {  7:09am, 2023 }:31^(-4)  七鉣鈛
      Justin Trudeau is causing house-price inflation.

AndyMatt wrote:
> people are paying more for food & utilities 

Google: Trudeau housing costs...

VancouverSun.COM, Apr 13, 2023
//  Top banks, retired mandarins and housing activists declare 
//  Justin Trudeau is causing house-price inflation.
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              rBowman  kh99ecF82rrU1@mid.individual.net
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZBcsM.353959$65y6.146297@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.05am.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  khdcmsFrm9vU5@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--1.08am.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  71o7bilpbmgatk6r78vh2v1281p0lf1rus@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.01am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (134)  OK; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 16 {  5:20am, 2023 }:19^(-5)  七鉣碃
      Smoking is safer.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > I've never felt better, never been happier ! seriously.
> 
> I'm heading out for a six mile run, in a few minutes.

NIH.GOV, 2010 July:
//  there were 39 reported sudden deaths among more than 4 million 
//  [Marathon] runners, for a total incidence of 1 per 114 thousand.
//  NonFatal cardiac arrests: 1 per 31 thousand.

Smoking is safer.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
          rBowman  kh99ecF82rrU1@mid.individual.net
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZBcsM.353959$65y6.146297@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.05am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  khdcmsFrm9vU5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--1.08am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 1.6 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 {  9:50am, 2023 }:36  七鉜勜
      I've never felt better, never been happier ! seriously.

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > I feel _wonderful_, lying here, in bed.
> > 
> > "oxidation" ( breathing/metabolism ) is killing you.
> >  15 to  38 days: Lifespan of an active bee.  
> > 150 to 200 days: Lifespan of the same bee when hibernating.
> 
> If I get to the point where going down stairs is a strenuous activity,
> a 9mm will be what kills me.

I've never felt better, never been happier ! seriously.
■
          ChrisV  40a3bi5ug8dpjgih4h9kvvarkubgosql85@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.53pm.Seattle.2023
      Crump  46e3bitadc8q4v32gb45bupemtcdpd42qf@4ax.com
    ChrisV  4tn5bip0nbnbbe913pl5679jlj4307e3o2@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--0.41pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  (132)  OK; 1.3 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 15 { 11:06am, 2023 }:37^(-5)  七鉠渭
      Anyone here running something better than a gtx1070 ?

ChrisV wrote:
> I'm running a gtx1070.  It was a "hand me down" from my daughter.

270 $ new, 230 $ used.
Early 2018, it was selling for 400 $ ( thanks to crypto mining ).

Anyone here running something better than a gtx1070 ?
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--7.03am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      August 12, 1981, 41 years ago, the IBM PC ( model 5150 ) appeared.

August 12, 1981, 41 years ago, the IBM PC ( model 5150 ) appeared.

To this day, my PC is about the same size 
( supporting open architecture and third-party peripherals ).
■
              Bob_Campbell│nunya@none_none  mNydnUfx-8bxzCz5nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com
            rBowman  khdasuFrm9vU3@mid.individual.net
          me4guns  u8s3un$3imf$2@dont-email.me
        rBowman  khdsp8F8nsU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.57pm.Seattle.2023
    Charlie_Glock│Charlie_Glock@localhost_com  avrsM.58628$_2s1.58025@fx44.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--0.16am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (20) Bad; 6.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 15 {  0:01am, 2023 }:26  七鉞癆
      San Francisco is your restroom.

You (Glock) replied ( to me ):
> > Biden ignores the cost of housing ( relative to income ).
> 
> Biden and his puppet masters are more concerned with who can use a female restroom.

Male or female, San Francisco is your restroom.
■
              Alan│nuh-uh@nope_com  u8qo09$3ur4l$3@dont-email.me
            me4guns  u8rhr5$1av5$14@dont-email.me
          Bob_Campbell│nunya@none_none  mNydnUfx-8bxzCz5nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com
        rBowman  khdasuFrm9vU3@mid.individual.net
      me4guns  u8s3un$3imf$2@dont-email.me
    rBowman  khdsp8F8nsU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (153)  OK; 9.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 {  2:24pm, 2023 }:57  七鉜錩
      Biden is good at ignoring the soaring cost of housing ( relative to income ).

Biden is good at ignoring the soaring cost of housing ( relative to income ).
■
      ChrisV  40a3bi5ug8dpjgih4h9kvvarkubgosql85@4ax.com
    rBowman  khdtq6F8nsU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (153)  OK; 8.9 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 14 {  2:42pm, 2023 }:31  七鉜靇
      IBM's AT form factor ( the tower, ATX ) has been best.

rBowman wrote:
> I've got a decent Antec case and [ a power supply ] I should recycle

Ever since 1982, IBM's AT form factor ( the tower, ATX ) has been best.
■
    ChrisV  40a3bi5ug8dpjgih4h9kvvarkubgosql85@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.53pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (126)  OK; 16.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 14 {  1:24pm, 2023 }:23^(-5)  七鉜蓷
      New PC for me!

ChrisV:
> i5-12400

I like it.  What does your monitor look like ?

> microATX

Ordinary ATX is better, I think.

> Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold power supply

Seems like overkill to me.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--11.54pm.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  vdi0bid6hg1agstg337ou4j4f61dct8els@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.38pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  0f83bid3i46u9lqo76ojskpnd8q0ni79be@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.39pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (125)  OK; 42.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 14 {  0:35pm, 2023 }: 9^(-5)  七鉜祭
      Exercise induced heart failure.

NIH.GOV, Jan 10, 2023
//  What is exercise induced heart failure ?
//  
//  Frequent, sustained exercise in susceptible individuals can lead to 
//  persistent right ventricular overload and adverse remodelling. 
//  
//  In previously well athletes, this accumulative damage can predispose to 
//  right-sided-heart failure, arrhythmia, and sudden death.

NYTimes.COM, Feb 6, 2019
//  researchers scanning the hearts of longtime endurance athletes, 
//  such as marathon runners, have found scarring in those athletes' heart muscles 
//  and also hefty deposits of coronary plaques, 
//  which can break free and block arteries, causing a heart attack.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.53pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  rEGrM.174972$RIra.152690@fx09.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
      rBowman  kh99ecF82rrU1@mid.individual.net
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZBcsM.353959$65y6.146297@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.05am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (62)  OK; 26.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 14 {  7:04am, 2023 }:44^(-4)  七鉛緼
      "oxidation" ( breathing/metabolism ) is killing you.

DFS:
> It's hitting 90F here in Atlanta in the afternoons.

High of 77°f (25°c) here in Seattle today, low is 56° (13°c); 
sunny, no rain.  I keep my room below 69°f (21°c).

> You'll definitely experience joint problems, COPD, tiredness.

I feel _wonderful_, lying here, in bed.

Going up and down the stairs & emptying my chamber pot,
are strenuous, but I feel good afterwards... 
....no joint pains nor prolonged exhaustion.
No COPD, my lungs are fine; no, it's just my heart.

I get a lot of sleep because it feels so good.

Spritzing mouthwash stops the allergic reaction I used to have
( snoring & blocked sinuses )... also, it halts tooth pain.

"oxidation" ( breathing/metabolism ) is killing you.

 15 to  38 days: Lifespan of an active bee.  
150 to 200 days: Lifespan of the same bee when hibernating.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--11.54pm.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  vdi0bid6hg1agstg337ou4j4f61dct8els@4ax.com
      AndyMatt  DRYrM.340482$t9v6.7074@fx15.iad
    rBowman  khbt35Fkr73U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.05am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (144)  OK; 3.6 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jul 13 {  8:17pm, 2023 }:58  七鉙試
      What good is a buff corpse ?

rBowman:
> I hit a point 10 or 15 years ago where the muscles were willing but the 
> tendons and joints weren't up to the task. At this point I'm happy to be 
> maintaining and don't push to injury.

Why does Planet Fitness have a defibrillator at the ready ?!
What good is a buff corpse ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.53pm.Seattle.2023
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  rEGrM.174972$RIra.152690@fx09.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--11.54pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  vdi0bid6hg1agstg337ou4j4f61dct8els@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.38pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (123)  OK; 24.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 13 {  0:02pm, 2023 }:11^(-5)  七鉘栳
      Lifespan of an active, NonHibernating bee.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > Bodies wearout from overuse, same as a car.
> 
> Muscles, like the heart, don't "wear out from overuse".
> They get stronger with use.

Athletes drop dead of a heart attack on the field. 

A sumo wrestler's life expectancy is between 60- and 65-years old, 
about 20 years shorter than the life expectancy of a typical Japanese male.
Strokes, diabetes, heart, bone, and joint problems. 

 15 to  38 days: Lifespan of an active bee.  
150 to 200 days: Lifespan of the same bee when hibernating.
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            .  XnsAE1BB95BB2AD9545222@144.76.35.252
          Willard│willard@ford_com  2ed97381774daf89d4f0455b46fd3187@dizum.com
        Malte_Runz│nobodys@busine_ss  106uai9nvtb91oiv3b67iablotffun051f@4ax.com
      Rudy_Kanozzler│rudykkk@yahoo_com  u8nb5v$g1u$1@toxic.dizum.net
    Malte_Runz│nobodys@busine_ss  93evaitq8k0ogcgudj6t9tu1ac98vd53tg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.19am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Atheism, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Rec.Sport.Tennis, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 3.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 13 {  2:16am, 2023 }:20^(2)  七鉖苤
      Buy more ice cream cones, tax-free.

Malte Runz:
> the number of long-term unemployed has gone down over the past year.

Biden boasts of having raised the cost of housing ( relative to income );
this way, he can refinance ( to buy more ice cream cones, tax-free ).
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            .  XnsAE1BB95BB2AD9545222@144.76.35.252
          Willard│willard@ford_com  2ed97381774daf89d4f0455b46fd3187@dizum.com
        kalevi@kolttonen_fi(Kalevi_Kolttonen  u8n5p0$3cpvv$1@dont-email.me
      Rudy_Kanozzler│rudykkk@yahoo_com  u8nb5v$g1u$2@toxic.dizum.net
    kalevi@kolttonen_fi(Kalevi_Kolttonen  u8o5ln$3j4jo$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Atheism, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Rec.Sport.Tennis, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 11.8 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 12 { 11:30pm, 2023 }:15  七鉖寷
      Biden raised the cost of housing ( relative to income ).

> Joe Biden is not perfect, but compared to fucking loser Trump,
> he is indeed a genius.

Biden raised the cost of housing ( relative to income ).
For that, he deserves another ice cream cone.
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        .  XnsAE1BB95BB2AD9545222@144.76.35.252
      Willard│willard@ford_com  2ed97381774daf89d4f0455b46fd3187@dizum.com
    Bob_Campbell│none@none_none  G6WcneaGWbEZzTL5nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.14am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (3)  OK; 5.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Supernews.COM,  Jul 12 {  6:16pm, 2023 }:52^(-4)  七鉕撄
      The biggest (bipartisan) problem we face today...

The biggest (bipartisan) problem we face today is 
the rising cost of housing relative to our income.

Joe Biden & his loaded diapers are completely unaware.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.05am.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  eTCrM.5$HN5.0@fx01.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.53pm.Seattle.2023
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  rEGrM.174972$RIra.152690@fx09.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  _jHrM.41987$ayP.40620@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--11.54pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (60)  OK; 6.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jul 12 {  5:12pm, 2023 }:50^(-4)  七鉕喂
      healthy != longevity

healthy != longevity

Why does Planet Fitness have a defibrillator at the ready ?!

Why has Schwarzenegger had his aortic valve replaced twice recently ?!

Bodies wearout from overuse, same as a car.

Athletes drop dead on the field; heart attack.

You (DFS) haven't done anywhere near the amount of cardio that I have done,
in my lifetime.
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              AndyMatt  ypcrM.12818$Wtn5.3178@fx03.iad
            ChrisV  6sataipi1pt110moll2gq2ai0pr793h1p9@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.05am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  eTCrM.5$HN5.0@fx01.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.53pm.Seattle.2023
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  rEGrM.174972$RIra.152690@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (59)  OK; 5.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 12 {  4:26pm, 2023 }:23^(-4)  七鉔鲟
      Living forever ?

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > I get winded just standing up.
> 
> That's because you're an obese smoker with a years-long sedentary lifestyle.

No, it's because I'm 63 year old who's done too much cardio,
including double marathons ( fast fast ) every other day.

> Why are you committing slow, painful suicide ?

What's the alternative ? living forever ?
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              AndyMatt  ypcrM.12818$Wtn5.3178@fx03.iad
            ChrisV  6sataipi1pt110moll2gq2ai0pr793h1p9@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.05am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  eTCrM.5$HN5.0@fx01.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.53pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  gnFrM.17166$8Ma1.2607@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--3.20pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (304)  OK; 32 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 12 {  2:59pm, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七鉔行
      In 2020, Schwarzenegger had to learn how to walk again.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > I put too many miles on my heart, it's worn out;
> > I get winded just standing up.
> 
> Ok, so you're questioning why you're in terrible shape despite not 
> keeping active for years and you'll remedy the situation by doing 
> absolutely nothing different?

I've been active for many decades; not so long ago,
I'd to walk to my friends house by the space needle,
an 11 mile round-trip.

I walked less & less as my heart got more & more worn out.
Likely, I need some valve replacements, like Arnold Schwarzenegger; 
but I don't want to do that.

His aortic valve has been replaced twice recently;
in 2020, Schwarzenegger had to learn how to walk again.
Google: "I Had to Use a Walker" Arnold Schwarzenegger
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.30am.Seattle.2023
          AndyMatt  ypcrM.12818$Wtn5.3178@fx03.iad
        ChrisV  6sataipi1pt110moll2gq2ai0pr793h1p9@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.05am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  eTCrM.5$HN5.0@fx01.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--2.53pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (303)  OK; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 12 {  0:08pm, 2023 }:58^(-4)  七鉔恊
      I put too many miles on my heart, it's worn out.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > I used to bicycle 54 miles ( a double marathon ) every other day, fast fast.
> 
> That was 35 years ago. Do you still keep yourself active?

No because I put too many miles on my heart, it's worn out;
I get winded just standing up.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.30am.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  ypcrM.12818$Wtn5.3178@fx03.iad
    ChrisV  6sataipi1pt110moll2gq2ai0pr793h1p9@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.05am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (120)  OK; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jul 12 {  6:38am, 2023 }:52^(-5)  七鉓擬
      I used to bicycle 54 miles every other day, fast fast.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > > I've done a _massive_ amount of cardio in my life,
> > > ~50x more than others I know.
> 
> I recall you talking about your sedentary lifestyle, 
> for years and years, now.

You don't know what I've done in my 63 years.

When I was a young boy, a train ran along what's now called 
The Burke–Gilman Trail, from Ballard (Seattle) to Bothell.

At age 28, I used to bicycle 54 miles every other day, fast fast,
from Magnolia's Discovery Park, following the ( 17 mile ) Burke Gilman trail
to Blyth Park in Bothell where it becomes the ( 10 mile ) Sammamish River Trail
ending at Marymoor Park, Redmond, on Lake Sammamish.

How do you compare ?
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.30am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  ypcrM.12818$Wtn5.3178@fx03.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.32am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  Y2drM.14019$lzu4.2085@fx04.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--7.14am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (301)  OK; 19.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 11 {  6:46am, 2023 }:32^(-4)  七鉏崸
      Last 2 years, rent increased 21 %.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > My large, four-story building was covered in graffiti, inside & out; see:
> > https://www.google.com/maps/place/4547+19th+Ave+NE,+Seattle,+WA+98105/@47.6625748,-122.3072135,3a,75y,270.45h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szvHo_SBY5XQ27T1oqOB-Mg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DzvHo_SBY5XQ27T1oqOB-Mg%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D270.44843%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m7!3m6!1s0x549014897dfcaebb:0x70db64c83bbe7674!8m2!3d47.6625722!4d-122.3075522!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11c4l9ms8w?entry=ttu
> 
> Have you ever considered not living in a dump?

Currently, I live in a 1200 square-foot, three bedroom, 1.5 bath apartment.
I occupy one of the bedrooms, my friend is in another, and the third is empty.

No graffiti, no noise, it's quite peaceful;
but it costs me about 1125 $/month, after utilities.
Last 2 years, rent increased 21 %.
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            Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsB03D58ACBF795882000099222@135.181.20.170
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--6.56am.Seattle.2023
        36J_955│36J955@qfxw6_net  MgednW0RH9xyCTH5nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.32pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  1pcrM.12817$Wtn5.5162@fx03.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.34am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Soc.Culture
    ╳ 2  (300)  OK; 18.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 11 {  6:01am, 2023 }:49^(-4)  七鉏劽
      Dreaming of a property market crash.

AndyMatt wrote:
> In twelve years or so, my high school acquaintance turned 
> a house bought for $609,000 into one worth $2.2 million.

Everyone is dreaming of a property market crash; 
when they wake up, leaky shacks will sell for billion$, not million$.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.30am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  ypcrM.12818$Wtn5.3178@fx03.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--6.32am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (300)  OK; 18 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Blocknews.NET,  Jul 11 {  6:02am, 2023 }:22^(-4)  七鉏勞
      ~50 squatters.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > before the pandemic, I had no such problem !
> 
> Did you get vaccinated?

No, but I was surrounded by ~50 squatters, laying about, 
many of which were recently released from jail.

My large, four-story building was covered in graffiti, inside & out; see:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/4547+19th+Ave+NE,+Seattle,+WA+98105/@47.6625748,-122.3072135,3a,75y,270.45h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szvHo_SBY5XQ27T1oqOB-Mg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DzvHo_SBY5XQ27T1oqOB-Mg%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D270.44843%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m7!3m6!1s0x549014897dfcaebb:0x70db64c83bbe7674!8m2!3d47.6625722!4d-122.3075522!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11c4l9ms8w?entry=ttu
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.11--0.30am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      I think my heart is about to give out.

I think my heart is about to give out; 76 year old Arnold Schwarzenegger
has had heart valves replaced many times; 3 years ago, he could barely walk.

I'm a 6', ~240 lb 63 year old Seattle man who gets winded when he stands up;
before the pandemic, I had no such problem ! 

I have "steroid" arms & shoulders, I don't know why.
I've done a _massive_ amount of cardio in my life,
~50x more than others I know.
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        Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsB03D58ACBF795882000099222@135.181.20.170
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--6.56am.Seattle.2023
    36J_955│36J955@qfxw6_net  MgednW0RH9xyCTH5nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.32pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Soc.Culture
    ╱ 1  (6) ify; 3.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Giganews.COM, 68.222.41.144,  Jul 10 {  4:31pm, 2023 }:57^(-4)  七鉌諭
      No property market crash.

No property market crash; 
leaky shacks will sell for billion$ instead of million$.

--  Six years ago, China's National People's Congress had over 100 billionaire$.
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    Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsB03D58ACBF795882000099222@135.181.20.170
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--6.56am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  (8)  OK; 27.4 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jul 10 {  5:43am, 2023 }: 1  七鉊雕
      Seattle elitism.

Paul_Ragna noted:
> In the last three years, costs in the Seattle metro area climbed over 20 %. 
> Before the pandemic, it took nine years for costs to grow that much.
> "1 in 3 Seattle Residents Relocate out of the City Due to Crime and Cost"

Seattle's CPI, last 12 months, rose 6.9 %.  Leaky shacks sell for million$.
Last 2 years, rent increased 21 %; now ~1545 $/month for a one-bedroom.
I've experienced this inflation myself, as a Seattleite.

Seattle was the fastest-growing big city in 2022; up 2.4 % from 2021.
The apartment vacancy rate is ( a shockingly low ) 1 %.

"ProTenant" & "ProLabor" laws come at a price, few can afford it.
Seattle elitism.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.4--0.34pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Leaky shacks sell for million$.

Rent & property values increase to pay for what the gov takes from landlords;
leaky shacks sell for million$.  Seattle's CPI, last 12 months, rose 6.9 %.
Last 2 years, rent increased 21 %; now ~1545 $/month for a one-bedroom.
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        Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsB034BE90E84AD882000099222@135.181.20.170
      pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  u7qaso$321qb$1@dont-email.me
    34J_935│34J935@qfxw5_net  qXWdnRAb96YmQT35nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.1--11.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Misc, Alt.Politics
    ╱ 2  (3) ify; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Giganews.COM, 68.212.127.80,  Jul  1 {  7:11pm, 2023 }: 6^(-4)  七鈨媺
      China: more capitalist than America & more authoritarian.

> Leftists will NOT like a world ruled by China, Russia and Iran...

Six years ago, China's National People's Congress had over 100 billionaires;
i.e. more capitalist than America & more authoritarian.
China, Russia and Iran _need_ to believe that they're under attack.
Hated capitalism pays for beloved handouts.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.28--3.05pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Geriatric Russians _need_ to believe that they're under attack.

Geriatric Russians _need_ to believe that they're under attack, so we humor them.
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        RonB  u6armf$3o2rh$1@dont-email.me
      Bob_Campbell│nunya@none_none  YIGdncaMTrDKjxb5nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com
    HughHuntzinger  17656621-ecc1-4f1b-92b4-5b561aaa35adn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.16--6.58am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (86)  OK; 23.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 96.33.122.66,  Jun 16 {  6:22am, 2023 }:40^(PDT)  七釨怠
      Many don't like fake cheese/meat/pussy.

A number of people don't want male athletes competing against women.

Not everyone likes it when a "woman" impregnates female prisoners.

Not every girl wants to get raped by a "woman" in her bathroom.

Many don't like fake cheese/meat/pussy.

I hope that makes you uncomfortable, Huntzinger & Campbell, because it should.

--  People believe what they _need_ to believe.
    Hated capitalism pays for beloved handouts.
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              AndyMatt  MX_gM.23640$kHz5.1625@fx15.iad
            RonB  u63c9i$2jj5d$3@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  Y4lhM.4833$nbV.3849@fx47.iad
        RonB  u65o9t$2rdke$2@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  l2PhM.53259$hl93.29348@fx18.iad
    RonB  u6aqcv$3nler$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--7.39pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (215)  OK; 3.3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 13 {  3:25pm, 2023 }:35  七針烟
      Wagner storm troopers (Russians).

RonB:
> Poles are defending Ukraine, who's "neo-Nazis" act like Soviet terrorists
> rather than the German soldiers they pretend to emulate.

First, Russia covets Poland&Ukraine, then it takes them.

There are plenty of videos of Wagner storm troopers (Russians)
committing unspeakable crimes.

They have all the discipline of a well armed, drunk, 
white supremacist gang dressed like Boy Scouts.

Adolf Hitler loved Wagner, hence the name & the NAZI tattoos.

"Inside Wagner, Russia’s Secret War Company" -- WSJ Documentary
   Youtube.COM/watch?v=EMXnJMCoFYI
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        AndyMatt  Ph3iM.22531$MDLb.14209@fx10.iad
      AndyMatt  aC3iM.4411$nVQ3.2232@fx40.iad
    RonB  u6apun$3nler$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--7.24pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  (215)  OK; 3.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun 13 {  3:17pm, 2023 }:59  七針漗
      Torvalds' politics.

Re: Torvalds' politics.

He liked the fun pages, the puzzles, in the New York Times.

Likely, his politics were simply handed to him 
by his surroundings, there in Portland Oregon.

--  People believe what they _need_ to believe.
    Hated capitalism pays for beloved handouts.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.11--1.40pm.Seattle.2023
      Crump  hjdc8it9q5eus057ofi4soc4bqid3o526v@4ax.com
    rBowman  kemtt6Fa9nrU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.12--0.53am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (149)  OK; 9.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun 11 {  2:50pm, 2023 }:30  七釕喦
      Grab your popcorn, see who survives.

Re: Speculators runing the show.

Too much debt & no way to pay it off.
Grab your popcorn, see who survives.
Who'll control Crimean skies ?
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.11--1.40pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Hated capitalism pays for beloved handouts.

Hated capitalism pays for beloved handouts.

--  People believe what they _need_ to believe.
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              AndyMatt  nxkfM.2362064$MVg8.1082759@fx12.iad
            RonB  u5lupu$g2sj$1@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  jLFfM.725170$Ldj8.397255@fx47.iad
        RonB  u5rop0$1e81s$3@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  yhjgM.2999$MDLb.412@fx10.iad
    RonB  u6134b$27dpe$6@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.10--1.13am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (190)  OK; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun  9 { 10:53pm, 2023 }:16  七野懌
      Russia covets Poland&Ukraine.

RonB:
> [ Poland and Russia ] lean more towards family and the old values.

First, Russia covets Poland&Ukraine, then it takes them.

Russia's "stormtroopers", the Wagner group, are unabashed Nazis,
with Nazi tattoos.

They have all the discipline of a well armed, drunk, Boy Scout troop.

"Inside Wagner, Russia’s Secret War Company" -- WSJ Documentary
   Youtube.COM/watch?v=EMXnJMCoFYI  
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              AndyMatt  xdlgM.5231$kHz5.3049@fx15.iad
            rBowman  kef9d0F4nvrU5@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--8.33pm.Seattle.2023
        rBowman  keh5s5Fdr42U2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.9--10.57am.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  kehgs6Ffip3U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.10--0.51am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (143)  OK; 10.6 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun  9 {  1:37pm, 2023 }:26  七里莆
      Seattle begins the year with "spring" ( a.k.a. "winter", flowers everywhere ).

Re (rBowman):
> Albany is the closest location to where I was in '71 so I'll go with -28. 
> I was living in a brownstone with 2 working fireplaces and a gas 
> fireplace, 12' ceilings, and a huge bay window. I was considering feeding 
> the furniture into the fireplaces.

Those old houses are _obscenely_ expensive heat.

Better to use a space heater ( electric ).
A small air conditioner cools my bedroom nicely.

> I can't say I like below 0 weather but it keeps the riff-raff out.
> You get those tropical temperatures and you get the tropical people.

Seattle begins the year with "spring" ( a.k.a. "winter", flowers everywhere ),
followed by "summer 1" (a.k.a. "spring"), followed by "hell" (death Valley) . . . 
.. . . then "summer 2" (a.k.a. "fall").

16 hour nights & mostly cloudy days keep the worst of the RiftRaft away.
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              AndyMatt  AcjgM.115$uh74.10@fx36.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--6.45am.Seattle.2023
          AndyMatt  xdlgM.5231$kHz5.3049@fx15.iad
        rBowman  kef9d0F4nvrU5@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--8.33pm.Seattle.2023
    rBowman  keh5s5Fdr42U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.9--10.57am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (141)  OK; 14.5 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun  9 { 10:29am, 2023 }:41  七里垅
      107 on July 6, 2007, Missoula.

> > Nothing is greener than "greenhouse earth".
> > Very dangerous.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_1910
> Shit happens. Always has.

Yea, you're safe.

The hottest temperature recorded in Missoula was 107 on July 6, 2007;
coldest was -33, January 1957. 
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              AndyMatt  zkLfM.7$sXTc.4@fx11.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.7--10.18pm.Seattle.2023
          AndyMatt  AcjgM.115$uh74.10@fx36.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--6.45am.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  xdlgM.5231$kHz5.3049@fx15.iad
    rBowman  kef9d0F4nvrU5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--8.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (140)  OK; 3.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun  8 {  5:17pm, 2023 }:36  七釉宠
      Nothing is greener than "greenhouse earth".

Re: Montana's lush undergrowth, waiting to burn.

Nothing is greener than "greenhouse earth".

Very dangerous.
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              AndyMatt  wxufM.3987724$vBI8.1983224@fx15.iad
            RonB  u5mdgm$l1j0$3@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.44pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  zkLfM.7$sXTc.4@fx11.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.7--10.18pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  AcjgM.115$uh74.10@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.8--6.45am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (232)  OK; 1.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Jun  8 {  4:46am, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七采侠
      The forest fires in Québec.

AndyMatt wrote:
> Only leftists zealots wear masks nowadays 
> and they should be mercilessly shamed for doing so.

No, I'm talking about the forest fires in Québec.
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              AndyMatt  2akfM.2362057$MVg8.2049379@fx12.iad
            RonB  u5lpsq$fkmq$1@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  wxufM.3987724$vBI8.1983224@fx15.iad
        RonB  u5mdgm$l1j0$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.44pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  zkLfM.7$sXTc.4@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.7--10.18pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ (227)  OK; 1.4 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Jun  6 { 11:57am, 2023 }:35^(-4)  七釀侟
      Are you wearing a mask ?

Are you wearing a mask ?
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              AndyMatt  2akfM.2362057$MVg8.2049379@fx12.iad
            RonB  u5lpsq$fkmq$1@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  wxufM.3987724$vBI8.1983224@fx15.iad
        RonB  u5mdgm$l1j0$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.44pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  zkLfM.7$sXTc.4@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--0.50pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (222)  OK; 39.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Jun  6 { 11:57am, 2023 }:35^(-4)  七釀侟
      Yes, Germany got half of Poland, 1939 - 1945;

> > Hitler raped Poland 1930, then lost to Russia, 1939.
> 
> Um, you have your dates wrong.

Yes, Germany got half of Poland, 1939 - 1945;
the Soviet Union controlled the other half.
The demarcation line was along the Bug River.
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              AndyMatt  lFkeM.3789853$9sn9.822606@fx17.iad
            RonB  u5jpnp$8n84$5@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  2akfM.2362057$MVg8.2049379@fx12.iad
        RonB  u5lpsq$fkmq$1@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  wxufM.3987724$vBI8.1983224@fx15.iad
    RonB  u5mdgm$l1j0$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.44pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  (167)  OK; 54.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun  5 {  9:43pm, 2023 }: 2  七醽絖
      Putin coveted Ukraine.

First, Putin coveted Ukraine, then he ravaged it.
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              AndyMatt  5k1eM.2328242$MVg8.2006342@fx12.iad
            Crump  gd9h7id93chr7ts0c8clburb47to9mii66@4ax.com
          AndyMatt  lFkeM.3789853$9sn9.822606@fx17.iad
        RonB  u5jpnp$8n84$5@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  2akfM.2362057$MVg8.2049379@fx12.iad
    RonB  u5lpsq$fkmq$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--10.08pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 15  (160)  OK; 5.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun  5 {  4:08pm, 2023 }:11  七醼胛
      Putin is NATO's greatest asset.

Putin is NATO's greatest asset.

There's nothing Christlike about the way Russia ravages its neighbors.

-- People believe what they need to believe.
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              rBowman  kdv8dnFm3g0U1@mid.individual.net
            AndyMatt  A0yeM.761123$5CY7.371962@fx46.iad
          RonB  u5jr2l$8n84$11@dont-email.me
        AndyMatt  LfkfM.2362063$MVg8.37364@fx12.iad
      rBowman  ke6h8iFp67rU3@mid.individual.net
    AndyMatt  CRpfM.3983450$vBI8.2640007@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--11.56am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (202)  OK; 10 Minutes, Pan, Blocknews.NET,  Jun  5 { 11:30am, 2023 }:58  七醻釢
      Disable AutoFormat, first thing.

Re: Word

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to rBowman ):
> > I usually wind up in bulleted points hell and can't get out of it.
> 
> Same. It's annoying as all Hell.

Disable AutoFormat, first thing.

I like apps with lots & lots of settings;
& I take the time to master each & every one of them.
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              rBowman  kdqjc4FuaddU6@mid.individual.net
            ScottNaughty  u596t4$2i47l$1@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  mo1eM.2328296$MVg8.349269@fx12.iad
        ScottNaughty  u5as35$2rikc$1@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  CFkeM.3789854$9sn9.1494166@fx17.iad
    RonB  u5jt03$9424$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.5--4.07am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (143)  OK; 5.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun  4 { 10:48pm, 2023 }:51  七醹荃
      People believe what they need to believe.

ScottNaughty:
> > > What a rich fantasy life you lead... Parataxic Distortion

People believe what they need to believe.
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              Crump  gd9h7id93chr7ts0c8clburb47to9mii66@4ax.com
            AndyMatt  lFkeM.3789853$9sn9.822606@fx17.iad
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  5gmeM.509744$wfQc.320035@fx43.iad
        rBowman  kdv97uFm3g0U3@mid.individual.net
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  yYKeM.3796107$9sn9.97152@fx17.iad
    rBowman  ke1j1kF225oU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--6.44pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (106)  OK; 5.6 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jun  3 {  0:36pm, 2023 }:22  七醳踶
      My HairCutting scissors (sharp).

> I've been rocking the Duck Dynasty look long before Duck Dynasty. 

My HairCutting scissors (sharp) keep my hair ( beard, mustache, bangs ) 
& fingernails at a reasonable length.
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              me4guns  u5cqpi$36n38$2@dont-email.me
            Alan│nuh-uh@nope_com  u5d50t$37u3u$5@dont-email.me
          badgolferman│REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail_com  u5dfmv$394bm$1@dont-email.me
        Jolly_Roger│jollyroger@pobox_com  kduvonFkp22U1@mid.individual.net
      span│span@none_org  u5djlh$1qne6$1@news.mixmin.net
    Alan_Browne│bitbucket@blackhole_com  nNseM.407679$0XR7.138738@fx07.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.26pm.Seattle.2023
  Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (5)  OK; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Usenetserver.COM,  Jun  2 {  2:02pm, 2023 }:10^(-4)  七醯飒
      Ugly capitalism pays for beautiful hand outs.

> The Roman empire fell because. . .

"The Roman empire" ( the West ) is still plodding along today.
Ugly capitalism pays for beautiful hand outs.

If you're into pasta Primavera, Italy ain't doing so bad either.
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            AndyMatt  8BGdM.2259481$gGD7.442015@fx11.iad
          rBowman  kdqjc4FuaddU6@mid.individual.net
        ScottNaughty  u596t4$2i47l$1@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  mo1eM.2328296$MVg8.349269@fx12.iad
    ScottNaughty  u5as35$2rikc$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.1--5.56pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (35)  OK; 5.1 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jun  1 {  0:38pm, 2023 }:13  七醫箥
      Rob Peter to pay Paul & you'll soon run out of Peters.

Re: Parataxic Distortion

Rob Peter to pay Paul & you'll soon run out of Peters.

African witch doctors got it right: natural immunity is best.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.26--8.16pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Cheap, Good & Easy.

Cheap, Good & Easy:

    "Land O Lakes" Cinnamon Sugar Butter Spread on a thick slice of
    "Nature's Own" Brioche Style Bread ( Sugar, Mango Puree, Gluten & Butter ),
    plus a dollop of peanut butter.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--0.38am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  SCmbM.524360$Sgyc.17338@fx40.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--0.38pm.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  76zbM.655820$5S78.452789@fx48.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--8.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (132)  OK; 1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  May 24 {  6:46pm, 2023 }:40^(-4)  七醋蘀
      The dollar depreciates faster than my house.

AndyMatt wrote:
> I'm curious as to how high end [Redmond] is. 
> My old high school acquaintance bought a house there in 2011 or so 
> for about $850,000 and it's now worth $2.5 million or whatever. 
> I'm surprised that the prices skyrocketed to such a degree.

That's how it goes, around here.

The monthly mortgage payment for a new 2.5 million $ home 
will be ~20k $/month, given a ~7% interest rate, ~20% down,
& a million $/year income.

Paraphrasing, my dad used to say: 

  The dollar depreciates faster than my house.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--0.38am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  SCmbM.524360$Sgyc.17338@fx40.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--0.38pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  (130)  OK; 7.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  May 24 {  4:34am, 2023 }: 8^(-4)  七醉戰
      Bill Gates & Karl Marx were trust fund babies.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> New York is a dump, kind of like Seattle.

Bill Gates & Karl Marx were trust fund babies, 
and we've plenty of those types here, in Seattle.

Black Clad Anarchists start dumpster fires to protest capitalism; 
then it's gluten free, vegan pizza washed down with a craft brew.

But this isn't our only form of entertainment,
and the weather is great, in my opinion.

> Speaking of, how far are you from 83rd Street in Redmond ?

To get there, I'd walk down through (UW) campus to the I-520 floating bridge,
across Lake Washington; from there, it's minutes away, by bus.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@May.24--0.38am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      "New York State Of Mind", Billy Joel, age 27, 1976.

"New York State Of Mind", Billy Joel, age 27, 1976:

   Youtube.COM/watch?v=iM4LzEcaTK0
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              AndyMatt  KlzaM.1965749$t5W7.1606110@fx13.iad
            HughHuntzinger  dabab966-79dd-4a1e-80b8-d655cde4f317n@googlegroups.com
          AndyMatt  u_OaM.45052$i7t3.12993@fx08.iad
        HughHuntzinger  9654c561-7587-47c2-bf6c-3b78ebfc540en@googlegroups.com
      AndyMatt  WgSaM.621995$Lfzc.252398@fx36.iad
    HughHuntzinger  2c4cf7f3-5f2f-4f9a-bd1c-314992d717f8n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--4.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (72)  OK; 6.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.122.80,  May 22 {  4:46pm, 2023 }: 0^(PDT)  七醃嚸
      The white South Africans that I've met are like Elon Musk,

The white South Africans that I've met are like Elon Musk,
driven by the desire to free their parents from that hellhole.
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              rBowman  kcv77jFn94jU6@mid.individual.net
            AndyMatt  nszaM.2083734$Tcw8.1428455@fx10.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--7.11pm.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  68LaM.3333033$9sn9.2335866@fx17.iad
      rBowman  kd22f5F68e7U6@mid.individual.net
    AndyMatt  xgSaM.621994$Lfzc.353043@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--4.18pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (116)  OK; 17.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  May 22 {  3:45pm, 2023 }:47^(-4)  七醂骛
      Putin wakes up in the middle of the night, dripping wet, screaming:

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to rBowman ):
> > Everybody invades Poland.
> 
> Yep, that's pretty much the entirety of our history.

Putin wakes up in the middle of the night screaming:
if Ukraine didn't want to be invaded, 
she shouldn't have been dressed like that.
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              AndyMatt  3apaM.341221$qjm2.213640@fx09.iad
            rBowman  kcv77jFn94jU6@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  nszaM.2083734$Tcw8.1428455@fx10.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--7.11pm.Seattle.2023
      AndyMatt  68LaM.3333033$9sn9.2335866@fx17.iad
    rBowman  kd22f5F68e7U6@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.22--2.06pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (66)  OK; 1.5 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May 22 {  1:43pm, 2023 }:17  七醂緥
      Living in the mountains.

You (rBowman) replied ( to AndyMatt ):
> Everybody invades Poland. That's what happens when you're a big,
> flat place between competing powers.

There's a lot to be said for living in the mountains
as the Incas did in Cusco Peru 11,152 ft up.

Mexico City elevation is 7,349 ft; La Paz Bolivia 12,000 ft,
Bogotá Colombia 8,734 ft.
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              rBowman  kcqvreF2dufU1@mid.individual.net
            RonB  u4a0hf$115uu$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.54am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  3apaM.341221$qjm2.213640@fx09.iad
      rBowman  kcv77jFn94jU6@mid.individual.net
    AndyMatt  nszaM.2083734$Tcw8.1428455@fx10.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--7.11pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 7  (108)  OK; 30.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  May 21 {  6:21pm, 2023 }:22^(-4)  七酿排
      The Soviet Union colonized Poland, 1939.

Russian media notes:
> the needs of people in many nations turn out to be deeply secondary
> in relation to the interests of the colonisers.

Yes, and they should know, seeing as they've colonized Ukraine.

The Soviet Union colonized Poland, 1939.
War is always lurking beneath the surface of Poland & Ukraine,
waiting to pop up like bloody herpes.
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              RonB  u3rp35$2ofms$3@dont-email.me
            AndyMatt  gCg8M.254972$T%ac.227224@fx01.iad
          RonB  u3si3c$2v16f$2@dont-email.me
        ChrisV  gc1l6ipvp93cqkdvspp32dk19era239au9@4ax.com
      Crump  o62l6i9tb0mucub8tiltp96feujjput997@4ax.com
    pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  u4e5ia$1pr7v$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.21--5.04pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (7)  OK; 1.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 21 {  3:22pm, 2023 }: 3  七酾讋
      African witch doctors got it right: natural immunity is best.

You (pothead) replied ( to BigPharma ):
> The stuff RonB was posting about the vaccine has mostly turned out to be true.
> 1. Not preventing transmission.  2. Major side effects.
> 3. Not fully tested.    etc.

African witch doctors got it right: natural immunity is best.
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              rBowman  kcllfeF7jd7U1@mid.individual.net
            RonB  u495n4$r01d$1@dont-email.me
          rBowman  kcqvreF2dufU1@mid.individual.net
        RonB  u4a0hf$115uu$1@dont-email.me
      rBowman  kcskkrFbmg2U2@mid.individual.net
    HughHuntzinger  65718c59-ada9-41f3-a73c-4fb6f7e69395n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--2.05pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (67)  OK; 1.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.122.80,  May 20 {  1:51pm, 2023 }:11^(PDT)  七酺沿
      My (Mormon) dad didn't like the church owning U&I Sugar shares.

Huntzinger wrote:
> the LDS bought an interest in IIRC, Pepsi back in the 1970s.

Guy Briggs, 2020:
//  The Church owned shares in Utah and Idaho Sugar (U&I Sugar)
//  which Coke acquired in a stock swap. So, for a short time, 
//  the Mormon church did, in fact, own shares of Coca-Cola. 
//  Which they promptly divested themselves of.

My (Mormon) dad didn't like the church owning U&I Sugar shares.
His homebrewed root beer was the best, by the way.
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              RonB  u444ba$5h99$5@dont-email.me
            rBowman  kcllfeF7jd7U1@mid.individual.net
          RonB  u495n4$r01d$1@dont-email.me
        rBowman  kcqvreF2dufU1@mid.individual.net
      RonB  u4a0hf$115uu$1@dont-email.me
    rBowman  kcskkrFbmg2U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--1.10pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (63)  OK; 46.2 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May 20 {  0:16pm, 2023 }:44  七酺嚜
      Chinese reject cold drinks; Mormons reject hot drinks.

Chinese reject cold drinks; Mormons reject hot drinks;
when together, the drinks are warm ( ha ha ).
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              rBowman  kcg8s2F74hcU3@mid.individual.net
            RonB  u444ba$5h99$5@dont-email.me
          rBowman  kcllfeF7jd7U1@mid.individual.net
        RonB  u495n4$r01d$1@dont-email.me
      rBowman  kcqvreF2dufU1@mid.individual.net
    RonB  u4a0hf$115uu$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.54am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (79)  OK; 7.9 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 20 {  1:31am, 2023 }:43  七酸捯
      Utah is transforming into Seattle/Caracas.

Slowly, Utah is transforming into Seattle/Caracas.

Utah's fertility rate is 1.92 births per woman;
the replacement rate is 2.1 births per woman.
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              RonB  u4448a$5h99$4@dont-email.me
            AndyMatt  oyo9M.3040825$iU59.1980671@fx14.iad
          RonB  u494pi$qtke$2@dont-email.me
        AndyMatt  zNV9M.242459$LAYb.96066@fx02.iad
      RonB  u49tr9$10rtd$2@dont-email.me
    rBowman  kcsf9iFaqctU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--11.21am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (56)  OK; 4.1 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May 20 { 10:45am, 2023 }:22  七酹録
      " Young Russian's take on the War. ", Jun 2022.

rBowman:
> Russia has been trying to populate [Siberia] since Catherine the Great. 
> https://eturbonews.com/russia-plans-american-village-for-conservative-western-expats/

" Young Russian's take on the War. ", Jun 2022:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQaZnL4J63o
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              AndyMatt  NM39M.3067384$9sn9.1820114@fx17.iad
            RonB  u443oc$5h99$2@dont-email.me
          AndyMatt  rto9M.3039753$iU59.2223825@fx14.iad
        RonB  u48u6n$q7m6$3@dont-email.me
      rBowman  kcr3vcF38g4U1@mid.individual.net
    RonB  u4a0r6$115uu$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.20--10.34am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (79)  OK; 7.9 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  May 20 {  1:36am, 2023 }:54  七酸撦
      My "everything" ( my future ).

> why is there something rather than nothing. 

The future is just as fixed as the past; the (4d) cosmos is static.

My "everything" ( my future ) becomes "nothing" ( the past ).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--8.03am.Seattle.2023
            AndyMatt  He99M.3233167$vBI8.810187@fx15.iad
          RonB  u4443t$5h99$3@dont-email.me
        AndyMatt  ovo9M.3040178$iU59.2541441@fx14.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.18--9.37am.Seattle.2023
    AndyMatt  hwt9M.3663041$GNG9.2719031@fx18.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.18--0.42pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (80)  OK; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Blocknews.NET,  May 18 { 10:46am, 2023 }:52^(-4)  七酱肌
      She can wait.

You (AndyMatt) replied ( to me ):
> > "VoIP.MS" has _everything_ I need, including Multimedia "texts";
> > I don't pay for any 911 service because I can just call the police.
> 
> Either way, you're better off without a cell phone. 
> I would gladly get rid of mine but my wife wants to make sure 
> that she can contact me at all times.

It's okay to be off-line for a few hours, she can wait.

"VoIP.MS", the world's best telephone service,  
is immediately north of Montréal (Terrebonne).
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              AndyMatt  NM39M.3067384$9sn9.1820114@fx17.iad
            rBowman  kck760FnmuU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--8.03am.Seattle.2023
        AndyMatt  He99M.3233167$vBI8.810187@fx15.iad
      RonB  u4443t$5h99$3@dont-email.me
    AndyMatt  ovo9M.3040178$iU59.2541441@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.18--9.37am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 6  (78)  OK; 3.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Blocknews.NET,  May 18 {  5:04am, 2023 }:36^(-4)  七酰艔
      ChatGPT is too stooopid to understand "VoIP.MS".

AndyMatt wrote:
> [ ChatGPT demands ] a _cellphone_ number.
> Does Jeff not have a cellphone ?

"VoIP.MS" has _everything_ I need, including Multimedia "texts";
so no cell phone.  They have a 300 dpi color scan of my Passport.

I don't pay for any 911 service because I can call the police 
using a regular phone number... it works fine.

ChatGPT is too stooopid to understand "VoIP.MS".
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              AndyMatt  oh99M.3233168$vBI8.1801166@fx15.iad
            HughHuntzinger  f5fec969-ce54-495d-91d2-e9b3deffa418n@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--2.02pm.Seattle.2023
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_invalid  kcle3lF6c9eU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--6.56pm.Seattle.2023
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_invalid  kclf5kF6iu0U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.18--8.36am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 13.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET,  May 17 {  7:00pm, 2023 }:20^(10)  七酮颴
      Keep your needy hands off my mind & soul.

You (Sylvia) replied ( to me ):
> A universal claim only requires one counter-example to refute it.
> Your revised claim needs to be:
> 
>     "Contrary to what the Idiocracy imagines, except for smallpox, 
>     only _natural_ immunity matters."
> 
> Then I'll mention polio.

I wore a red shirt one day, then voilà, I was cured of cancer.

People don't get smallpox today for a variety of reasons,
including natural immunity.

If you want to, need to, pay big Pharma...
....be my guest, I hope it serves you well...
just keep your needy hands off my mind & soul.
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              AndyMatt  YfO8M.385771$SdR7.217776@fx04.iad
            HughHuntzinger  34572480-676c-4555-aad2-55ea82ab24fen@googlegroups.com
          AndyMatt  oh99M.3233168$vBI8.1801166@fx15.iad
        HughHuntzinger  f5fec969-ce54-495d-91d2-e9b3deffa418n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--2.02pm.Seattle.2023
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_invalid  kcle3lF6c9eU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--6.56pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 59 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET,  May 17 {  6:42pm, 2023 }:13^(10)  七酮鑵
      Seek natural immunity.

You (Sylvia) replied ( to me ):
> > Contrary to what the Idiocracy imagines, only _natural_ immunity matters.
> 
> [ ha ha, so ] people didn't start dying of smallpox 
> until the vaccine was developed [ ? ]

You imagine that the smallpox vaccine was godlike; so you assume: 
any "vaccine" created by anyone, whenever is also God like.

Avoid the Idiocracy ( Big Pharma, Bill Gates ).
Seek natural immunity.
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              AndyMatt  liM8M.3550680$GNG9.1980382@fx18.iad
            rBowman  kchnvvFe057U2@mid.individual.net
          AndyMatt  YfO8M.385771$SdR7.217776@fx04.iad
        HughHuntzinger  34572480-676c-4555-aad2-55ea82ab24fen@googlegroups.com
      AndyMatt  oh99M.3233168$vBI8.1801166@fx15.iad
    HughHuntzinger  f5fec969-ce54-495d-91d2-e9b3deffa418n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--2.02pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (62)  OK; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.122.80,  May 17 {  0:10pm, 2023 }: 6^(PDT)  七酭誎
      vaccines have electrolytes.

Contrary to what the Idiocracy imagines, only _natural_ immunity matters.

"But Relf", I hear you reply, "vaccines have electrolytes".
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          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  qss8M.1800014$t5W7.894779@fx13.iad
        ScottNaughty  u41l5v$3pdqk$1@dont-email.me
      AndyMatt  NM39M.3067384$9sn9.1820114@fx17.iad
    rBowman  kck760FnmuU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.17--8.03am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (48)  OK; 7.5 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May 17 {  7:37am, 2023 }:53  七酬鳁
      This is a virtual phone number...

rBowman:
> I'm interested in how they will monetize the technology. 

OpenAI's ChatGPT Plus subscription plan costs $20 per month.

I can't sign up; it rejects my phone number, saying:

  This is a virtual phone number ( also known as VoIP ).
  Please provide a valid, non-virtual phone number to continue.

Idiots.
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              AndyMatt  NUq7M.159085$qjm2.125731@fx09.iad
            RonB  u3mgb4$1r77u$1@dont-email.me
          HughHuntzinger  c0a86e31-7560-4ae3-aed8-adbecbec324cn@googlegroups.com
        RonB  u3ncv5$21l61$1@dont-email.me
      HughHuntzinger  18b68c80-2d60-455a-a5fc-9490968b6207n@googlegroups.com
    rBowman  kca3g7F8panU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.13--0.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (29)  OK; 26.6 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  May 13 { 11:33am, 2023 }:44  七酝專
      Evil daddy, right wing Republicans, earn the money.

Evil Daddy, right wing Republicans, earn the money.

Angelic Mommy, left wing Democrats, spend it.
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            Larry│larrym@msnbc_com  XnsAFFEC3B9413050D1@0.0.0.2
          Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@www_yahoo_com  u3cef2$5jfe$1@dont-email.me
        Larry│larrym@msnbc_com  u3e14u$2qmci$1@news.mixmin.net
      Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@www_yahoo_com  u3eqmv$dtkd$6@dont-email.me
    ScottNaughty  kc0gdbFong4U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--0.44am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (26)  OK; 4.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  May  9 {  8:12pm, 2023 }:43  七酎嶫
      They'll rent you someone's vacant house.

ScottNaughty:
> BIBLE(1)  General Commands Manual   BIBLE(1)

Google is the best way to search the Bible; 
it works well on a 75 $ Fire tablet (Amazon).

These days, in Seattle, I do _not_ recommend housing the homeless;
they'll (gleefully) send you to hell in a hand basket;
they'll rip out your walls & steal your neighbors cars/bikes.

They'll rent you someone's vacant house ( listed for sale, Zillow )
and sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.6--8.44am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Like herpes, war is intrinsic to Ukraine; it flares up when times are hard.

Like herpes, war is intrinsic to Ukraine; it flares up when times are hard.

-- The past is gone, The future is everything.
■
              Crump  mhd45itdsk2v6olcfc5f8oskgmh37ur7fu@4ax.com
            🌈  bxydnThmGdTLp8_5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com
          Crump  84f45idovvou1t67umdcl77cmtsiq8ahvu@4ax.com
        🌈  OwedncDPE477oM_5nZ2dnZeNn_Vg4p2d@giganews.com
      Crump  56g45itrog0d91teml7ikk44une5e74ed0@4ax.com
    🌈  NrGcnao4QsSZ2s_5nZ2dnZeNn_pi4p2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.3--7.10am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 2.5 Hours, St0opeys_Favourite_Newsre, Giganews.COM,  May  3 {  4:35am, 2023 }:32^(0)  七鄲鄄
      Former me is gone, future me is everything.

> I don't come here to have in-depth discussions about anything.

Former me is gone, future me is everything.
■
              Nux_Vomica│nv@linux_rocks  1759c0e02a89b07f$9$367103$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
            The_Ref│ref@vallor_earth  jNN2M.2797867$vBI8.847753@fx15.iad
          Nux_Vomica│nv@linux_rocks  175a353b300e3dbc$37$367103$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
        ScottDoty  kb4ea5Fcb8mU1@mid.individual.net
      Nux_Vomica│nv@linux_rocks  175a831205a61115$26$565070$565a1876@news.usenetexpress.com
    The_Ref│ref@vallor_earth  CVK3M.2606587$9sn9.114137@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@May.1--5.42am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (4) ify; 3.9 Hours, Pan, Blocknews.NET,  May  1 {  1:40am, 2023 }: 2  七鄪哢
      Former versions (of me) are dead, future versions are everything (to me).

Re: The Tao of Linux Advocacy.

Former versions (of me) are dead, future versions are everything (to me).
■
            Ashley_Beeby│beebyac@gmail_com  26a36d2e-efcc-408d-8b44-39fe70a92c9cn@googlegroups.com
          Nux_Vomica│nv@linux_rocks  1759c0e02a89b07f$9$367103$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
        The_Ref│ref@vallor_earth  jNN2M.2797867$vBI8.847753@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--7.56am.Seattle.2023
    Crump  qrnn4ihchhf9sipo7m2a7gfphk6dg2kt2u@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--8.13am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (281) Bad; 1.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Apr 28 {  8:00am, 2023 }:35^(-4)  七鄞醓
      BigPharma ( Bill Gates ), BigMedia ( Bill Gates ) & BigGov ( Bill Gates ).

You (BigPharma) replied ( to me ):
> > "Thievery Corporation", a "Downtempo, Bossa Nova" band from 
> > the great communist Babylonians in Washington DC 
> > where the GDP per capita is an unholy 6x that of 
> > the tiny capitalist Christians in Mississippi & Nashville.
> 
> Like you know shit about DC, Relf.

The plandemic targeted poor, tiny Christian capitalists,
diverting money & power to BigPharma ( Bill Gates ), 
BigMedia ( Bill Gates ) & BigGov ( Bill Gates ).
■
        Ashley_Beeby│beebyac@gmail_com  26a36d2e-efcc-408d-8b44-39fe70a92c9cn@googlegroups.com
      Nux_Vomica│nv@linux_rocks  1759c0e02a89b07f$9$367103$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
    The_Ref│ref@vallor_earth  jNN2M.2797867$vBI8.847753@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.28--7.56am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (2) ify; 34.2 Minutes, Pan, Blocknews.NET,  Apr 28 {  4:06am, 2023 }:55  七鄞嫏
      The communist Babylonians in Washington DC.

"Thievery Corporation", a "Downtempo, Bossa Nova" band from 
the great communist Babylonians in Washington DC 
where the GDP per capita is an unholy 6x that of 
the tiny capitalist Christians in Mississippi & Nashville.

Thievery Corporation:
  Radio Retaliation    2008: Beautiful Drug
    ''                       Blasting Through The City
    ''                       Hare Krsna
    ''                       La Femme Parallel
    ''                       Mandala
    ''                       The Forgotten People
    ''                       The Shining Path
  Saudade (Bossa Nova) 2013: Bateau Rouge
    ''                       Claridad
    ''                       Depth Of My Soul
    ''                       Décollage
    ''                       Firelight
    ''                       Le Coeur
    ''                       Meu Nego
    ''                       No More Disguise
    ''                       Nos Dois
    ''                       Para Sempre
    ''                       Quem Me Leva
    ''                       Saudade
    ''                       Sola In Citta
  The Cosmic Game      2005: A Gentle Dissolve
    ''                       Ambicion Eterna
    ''                       Amerimacka
    ''                       Holographic Universe
    ''                       Pela Janela
    ''                       Satyam Shivam Sundaram
    ''                       Sol Tapado
    ''                       The Heart's A Lonely Hunter
    ''                       The Supreme Illusion
    ''                       The Time We Lost Our Way
    ''                       Wires And Watchtowers
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              Dead_companies│dead_companies@budweiser_com  u11o3m$290gg$1@paganini.bofh.team
            JoelCrump  qa193ipsbg7v7r94nk6nr2enj7doool1m8@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  d12ebfb9-87e3-42d9-a383-fd039201b86bn@googlegroups.com
        rBowman  k9jvl7Fqk7sU2@mid.individual.net
      HughHuntzinger  b2ea30d7-d373-4a80-b847-9a2cfc7c0aeen@googlegroups.com
    rBowman  k9lg9lF3e87U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.11--1.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (23)  OK; 3.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr 11 {  9:30am, 2023 }:45  七郙圵
      Bud Light is my favorite beer.

Bud Light is my favorite beer; America's favorites:

  1: Bud Light;  2: Coors Light;  3: Miller Lite
■
    FitFreak  u0fj2j$2se2h$1@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.09am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (5)  OK; 6.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Apr  3 {  3:13pm, 2023 }:39^(-5)  七邹宓
      Putin shoots himself in the head.

FitFreak:
> Relf, Join The Brave [ kill Ruskies ] ! :-)

Putin is destroying Ukraine using long-range missiles
that are denied to Ukraine ( thanks to "NATO the potato" );
reminds me of Hitler in Poland, 1939.

Eventually, Ukraine will press the button that destroys Moscow
& Putin shoots himself in the head.

> Write them programs only you can decipher and use.

Do you also encourage cows to eat grass ?!
Need we beg Joe Biden to be corrupt ?!

I'm not getting paid anymore;
instead, I'm enjoying my (full) retirement.
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              JoelCrump  dbrj2i1tnt2ee7id27utessith8hjeda54@4ax.com
            Andy_Burnelli│nospam@nospam_net  u0d460$2vucd$1@paganini.bofh.team
          JoelCrump  t17k2ilvubgg2ja3slc15jshnq54n43g30@4ax.com
        Andy_Burnelli│nospam@nospam_net  u0d8ff$34t4j$1@paganini.bofh.team
      Ken_Hart│kwhart1@frontier_com  u0dauf$35511$1@paganini.bofh.team
    JoelCrump  0aek2itjtn90sgcgr77vru71cos9bjkge5@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--10.35pm.Seattle.2023
  Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Comp.Text.Pdf
    ╱ 3  (149)  OK; 2.6 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Apr  2 {  7:27pm, 2023 }:15^(-4)  七邵趃
      MIT says M1 (2020) MacBooks have "unpatchable" vulnerabilities.

MIT says M1 (2020) MacBooks have "unpatchable" vulnerabilities.
■
              Raney│raney@somewhere_usa  u0a1du$2h5qn$1@paganini.bofh.team
            sms│scharf_steven@geemail_com  u0a597$22ki0$1@dont-email.me
          rBowman  k8s005F3be4U1@mid.individual.net
        nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  010420232023383039%nospam@nospam.invalid
      rBowman  k8s7hsF3be4U10@mid.individual.net
    Alan│nuh-uh@nope_com  u0apjf$2880j$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--9.00pm.Seattle.2023
  Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (6) ify; 1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Apr  1 {  7:34pm, 2023 }:23^(-7)  七邱薯
      rBowman hit the nail on the head.

You (Alan) replied ( to rBowman ):
> > You [nospam] obviously have never developed anything other than a shitty attitude.
> 
> Not actually a rebuttal.

rBowman hit the nail on the head.
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        JoelCrump  f9ce2i9o1b1gq4p0493r0jddcd47dsnkeu@4ax.com
      ChrisV  jjbg2itiic80jlu55t0q01bkb3u1or6mr2@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  0jcg2i9cvq8pes244s63d2imvbnu2bv9je@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.41am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-11
    ╱ 1  (124)  OK; 1 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Apr  1 {  6:35am, 2023 }:14^(-4)  七邯猒
      Tony had a seizure & drowned in the bathtub.

My lifelong friend, Tony, had a seizure & drowned in the bathtub.
■
              JoelCrump  v6ue2iljbiej609bsp1ptkqokmcnevgqnc@4ax.com
            badgolferman│REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail_com  u082ff$1o3c1$1@dont-email.me
          nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  310320232234187419%nospam@nospam.invalid
        badgolferman│REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail_com  u093bp$1sleh$1@dont-email.me
      nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  010420230827355227%nospam@nospam.invalid
    JoelCrump  p49g2iht8no4007r4ifqnqufn7iohu920e@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--5.58am.Seattle.2023
  Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (122)  OK; 10.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Apr  1 {  5:34am, 2023 }:44^(-4)  七邯擤
      Toe Jam eater.

When I see someone using Apple I think:  "Too much makeup."
When I see someone using Linux I think:  "Toe Jam eater."
When I see someone using Win10 I think:  "Techie."
■
        JoelCrump  f9ce2i9o1b1gq4p0493r0jddcd47dsnkeu@4ax.com
      David_Brooks│DavidB@nomail_afraid_org  gZIVL.228886$SdR7.176622@fx04.iad
    JoelCrump  lbne2id9v5pkeb4e6utlja31mj0v0tuju6@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--7.33pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-11
    ╳ 4  (120)  OK; 3.6 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar 31 {  3:25pm, 2023 }:27^(-4)  七邬鏗
      "In our house, we obey the laws of physics" -- Homer Simpson.

Re: His absence, JoelCrump wrote:
> I was just standing up ( in my room ) when I suddenly fell . . . hard.

"In our house, we obey the laws of physics" -- Homer Simpson.

"Gravitational Energy" is "residual eXergy" ( potential entropy ).
"God" (nature) sets our desires&sufferings ( using residual exergy )
to create&destroy us as the cosmos goes from hot&dense to cold&sparse.

No "length", no "time", no "entropy" at The Infinitely Precise Start of The Big Bang:

  From our perspective, the "standard" clock ticks ever-slower the closer
  it is to the start of the Big Bang; locally, it ticks normally, as it does here.

The future is just as fixed as the past; the (4d) cosmos is static.

"Life" is that which slays "bad" truths and nurtures "useful" lies;
so it's everything & nothing.
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              captain_penis│dick_lick@aol_com  tvl4gn$1r27h$1@dont-email.me
            Physfitfreak│Physfitfreak@gmail_com  tvlau0$2hfmn$2@solani.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--6.06pm.Seattle.2023
        Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsAFD1D86649443882000099222@88.198.57.247
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--6.29pm.Seattle.2023
    Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsAFD1DD78C4D00882000099222@88.198.57.247
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--7.08pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 9.1 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 24 {  6:46pm, 2023 }:16  七邐聨
      Are you married now ? Do you want to be ?

Re: Sodomizing the babysitter.

Paul Ragna:
> I was divorced.  Wife just took off.  No child support.
> To this day I have no idea where she is.
> I paid her $10k to go away and she did.  It was a perfect storm.

Yeah, that's next level.

Are you married now ? Do you want to be ?

I'm a 63 year old single male, in Seattle, born here.

I'm seldom bored, never lonely.
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          captain_penis│dick_lick@aol_com  tvl4gn$1r27h$1@dont-email.me
        Physfitfreak│Physfitfreak@gmail_com  tvlau0$2hfmn$2@solani.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--6.06pm.Seattle.2023
    Paul_Ragna│tpragna1900O@gmail_com  XnsAFD1D86649443882000099222@88.198.57.247
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--6.29pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 5.1 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 24 {  6:16pm, 2023 }:21  七邐祥
      What did your wife think of that ?

You ( Paul Ragna ) replied ( to me ):
> > What babysitter ?
> > It's been 35 years since I last saw one.
> 
> I used to have a hasidic Jewess babysit my son.
> When I drove her home I used to either get a blowjob or screw her in the ass.
> She was a virgin and had to remain "pure" . . . Biggest slut I ever met . . .

What did your wife think of that ?

You've paid a lot of child support, I imagine.
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      captain_penis│dick_lick@aol_com  tvl4gn$1r27h$1@dont-email.me
    Physfitfreak│Physfitfreak@gmail_com  tvlau0$2hfmn$2@solani.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--6.06pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Solani.ORG,  Mar 24 {  4:15pm, 2023 }:12^(-5)  七邐崀
      What babysitter ?

You (FitFreak) replied ( to "captain_penis" ):
> > Clean the babysitter's ass with your mouth tonight
> > It's fun & easy!
> 
> How Relfish.

What babysitter ?
It's been 35 years since I last saw one.

> My monitor is developing black blobs on its screen. 

Try replacing the cable first, before buying a new monitor.

> Can one use a high definition tv as a monitor for a desktop computer? How?

Yes but you'll need someone with more brains than muscles to help you do it.

In " Happier Than Ever; A Love Letter to Los Angeles " -- Disney+ 2021
Billie Eilish reminds us that she's special and we're not.

" I used to wish you were mine but that was way before I realized
  Someone like you is easy to find " -- Billie Eilish, "Lost Cause"
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              Dill│tillermandill@quck_org  XnsAFC6BBB51EC47490235902@88.198.57.247
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tuo86j$3v16p$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--5.23pm.Seattle.2023
        28B_A864│28B_A864@noqbgba_net  x7mcnUFkwY_5d5L5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--6.54am.Seattle.2023
    28B_A864│28B_A864@noqbgba_net  0_icnYZ2IP5dtoz5nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--8.02pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 32.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Giganews.COM, 68.222.41.46,  Mar 14 {  7:21pm, 2023 }:50^(-4)  七遧箾
      Every woman is sitting on a million $.

28b wrote:
>  Everybody loves a harlot for five minutes, at least !
>  That adds up to a LOT of good will over the years !  :-)

Every woman is sitting on a million $
& crying a river because it's not a billion.
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          Dill│tillermandill@quck_org  XnsAFC6BBB51EC47490235902@88.198.57.247
        pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tuo86j$3v16p$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--5.23pm.Seattle.2023
    28B_A864│28B_A864@noqbgba_net  x7mcnUFkwY_5d5L5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--6.54am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 9.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Giganews.COM, 68.222.41.46,  Mar 13 {  8:29pm, 2023 }:59^(-4)  七遣舷
      The mother of harlots.

Re: Credit Suisse is predicted to be the next one to go down . . .

Profits are privatized, losses are shared; This is the way, lol.

You (28b) replied ( to me ):
> > "Life" is that which slays "bad" truths and nurtures "useful" lies;
> > so it's everything & nothing.
> 
> More like "grey and almost grey", most of the time, alas . . .

Every cult needs needs an apocalypse.

" The government is the problem, not the solution. " -- Ronald Regan, Jan 1981.

Revelation 17:5 says:

  On her forehead was written a name, which is a mystery,
  “ Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and 
    of the abominations of the earth. ”
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      Dill│tillermandill@quck_org  XnsAFC6BBB51EC47490235902@88.198.57.247
    pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tuo86j$3v16p$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--5.23pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Misc, Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (20)  OK; 1.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 13 {  3:30pm, 2023 }:44  七遢踔
      Bank Runs.

Re: Bank Runs.

With the possible exception of Switzerland, 
no government can afford deflation; so it simply won't happen.

Muslims/Jews won't eat pork; Hindus worship cows; China rejects cheese; 
millennials choke on peanuts, gluten & racism.

The only _true_ vote is the one you make with your feet.

"Life" is that which slays "bad" truths and nurtures "useful" lies;
so it's everything & nothing.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--11.18am.Seattle.2023
            JoelCrump  gu670i9hvdp31rvugnh6ufgthvempogh0l@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--1.52am.Seattle.2023
        JoelCrump  chr80idtvqssfj8lrou3mr1ldt5cvih6rl@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--8.37am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  nf3h0i5jl95822q5uihkanrltvdcb9382n@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--4.54am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  (111)  OK; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  8 {  5:31am, 2023 }:22^(-5)  七遌萪
      100,000 Tina Turner fans.

You (JoelCrump) replied ( to TLC ):
> > > it's about the drug game, not money
> >
> > "No Scrubs" by TLC:  Youtube.COM/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
> 
> Yeah, uh huh, because retarded pop music 
> is where i get my life planning advice from, OK, Jeff.

100,000 Tina Turner fans, 1985 ( 5,000,000 views ):
YouTube.COM/watch?v=QumaVtb75ak
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              me4guns  tu4r6p$1mted$32@dont-email.me
            JoelCrump  2ttb0itpg1elek5i9pqqc432cb1mkgcmgv@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  jjvb0i19b2vigh1vifv2qbep0lhl8cl18o@Schadenfreude.com
        JoelCrump  rf0c0i9md39e9qv8mb4lqpovoqfb14jlph@4ax.com
      me4guns  tu79cm$d8qe$12@dont-email.me
    JoelCrump  uu3h0itb6p3rassde0g92injkncafeli8j@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--7.54am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (111)  OK; 1.8 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  8 {  5:39am, 2023 }:18^(-5)  七遌蘆
      Peanuts, gluten & racism.

Muslims/Jews won't eat pork; Hindus worship cows; China rejects cheese; 
peanuts, gluten & racism kills trust fund babies.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--11.18am.Seattle.2023
            JoelCrump  gu670i9hvdp31rvugnh6ufgthvempogh0l@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--1.52am.Seattle.2023
        JoelCrump  chr80idtvqssfj8lrou3mr1ldt5cvih6rl@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--8.37am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  nf3h0i5jl95822q5uihkanrltvdcb9382n@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--7.37am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  (111)  OK; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  8 {  5:31am, 2023 }:22^(-5)  七遌萪
      How do you pay for them ?

You (JoelCrump) replied ( to TLC ):
> > > it's about the drug game, not money
> >
> > "No Scrubs" by TLC:  Youtube.COM/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
> 
> Yeah, uh huh, because retarded pop music 
> is where i get my life planning advice from, OK, Jeff.

Drugs are expensive, & crack whores are ugly;
how do you pay for them ?
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              Schadenfreude  vr270iltemktpl2tba5k3kdger86qerm4i@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  pr370ihjo5m19bmsc2lsgi455jssff5aad@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--11.18am.Seattle.2023
        JoelCrump  gu670i9hvdp31rvugnh6ufgthvempogh0l@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--1.52am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  chr80idtvqssfj8lrou3mr1ldt5cvih6rl@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--8.37am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    +-, 2.2 Days, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Mar  5 {  2:57am, 2023 }: 2^(-5)  七逿镾
      Scrubs.

Re: Jesus was a capitalist, like Trump.

You (JoelCrump) replied ( to Jesus ):
> >  you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers,
> >  so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.
> 
> it's about the drug game, not money

"No Scrubs" by TLC:  Youtube.COM/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  UFLML.313486$cKvc.90624@fx42.iad
            JoelCrump  ui270i9guriblvmmj872f2s7eth6tu5458@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  vr270iltemktpl2tba5k3kdger86qerm4i@4ax.com
        JoelCrump  pr370ihjo5m19bmsc2lsgi455jssff5aad@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--11.18am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  gu670i9hvdp31rvugnh6ufgthvempogh0l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--1.52am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    +-, 14 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Mar  4 { 11:31am, 2023 }:40^(-5)  七逽悜
      Jesus was a capitalist, like Trump.

Jesus cared for the sick & the poor;
he was never deflected by the " Black Lives Matter " ruse.

& he was a capitalist, like Trump.

Jesus expounds ( Matthew 25:26-27 ):

  You wicked, lazy servant ! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown
  and gather where I have not scattered seed ?

  Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers,
  so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.
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              JoelCrump  c4p40itq0gf8imee6tcqse9mdsbfna6c0c@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--11.49pm.Seattle.2023
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  UFLML.313486$cKvc.90624@fx42.iad
        JoelCrump  ui270i9guriblvmmj872f2s7eth6tu5458@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  vr270iltemktpl2tba5k3kdger86qerm4i@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  pr370ihjo5m19bmsc2lsgi455jssff5aad@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--11.18am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (96)  OK; 20.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  4 { 10:37am, 2023 }: 1^(-5)  七逽反
      " greater than Jesus " ?

What is your "divine plan", Crump ?

Besides Virtue signaling, 
What have you done that's made you " greater than Jesus " ?
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              Schadenfreude  1fo30idg9rqvocdhht0nacv1rr6u1fq4bh@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  jhr30i5l9gmc8i13olmh4i9bujeeoe9m1r@4ax.com
          max_headroom│maximusheadroom@gmx_com  ttt7i6$m8d7$2@dont-email.me
        JoelCrump  gkp40ip9m9jo6qafi1k5okedhs9is0mpie@4ax.com
      max_headroom│maximusheadroom@gmx_com  ttu7vp$pfee$3@dont-email.me
    JoelCrump  i1f50i9bur3jm9gijpafe99vo6lqrdi8oc@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--0.13am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (91)  OK; 3.7 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 {  7:39pm, 2023 }:49^(-5)  七逺瞅
      Covid, AIDS & cancer.

JoelCrump:
> [ the government ] sent those people into the restaurant, 
> just ahead of when I'd arrive; they knew I was on my way there.

Caffeine weakens your immune system,
making you more susceptible to covid, AIDS & cancer.

" The government is the problem, not the solution. " -- Ronald Regan, Jan 1981.

" For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, 
  but against the rulers, against the authorities . . . " -- Ephesians 6:12

Revelation 17:5 says:

  On her forehead was written a name, which is a mystery,
  “ Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and 
    of the abominations of the earth. ”
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              me4guns  ttqvkf$cltn$2@dont-email.me
            JoelCrump  6o020i5olhjd6oq98pao0oaedv2lg1sct9@4ax.com
          me4guns  ttr3ms$d3se$2@dont-email.me
        JoelCrump  uce30idjs03656l7iji4l94cr78e4nkpce@4ax.com
      me4guns  ttt606$m37l$5@dont-email.me
    JoelCrump  c4p40itq0gf8imee6tcqse9mdsbfna6c0c@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--11.49pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 8  (91)  OK; 10 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 {  1:23pm, 2023 }:40^(-5)  七逹煜
      "The American Right" is barely tolerated.

"The American Right" is barely tolerated here, in America, 
much less France, Russia, China, India, Africa etc..

The Internet adamantly & profusely denounces conservative Christians;
meanwhile, it's is groping for that dose of fentanyl
that'll send them to the next life.    Willful Ignorance.
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              HughHuntzinger  7638cdb4-126b-4287-a668-4a0309376834n@googlegroups.com
            JoelCrump  gts20i1bta99t3lm7pt3hpkrhshvkv1b5p@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  7203fec1-19da-4de5-a391-1801084b6425n@googlegroups.com
        JoelCrump  8nh40i1tm6dgrj5229kmelmumm6hbq9fkq@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--0.09pm.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  ukm40i5j965pssptv4k2kojb6odtpv6eer@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--11.32pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  (91)  OK; 10.8 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 {  0:39pm, 2023 }:21^(-5)  七逹曹
      The one & only upgrade ?

Basically, you're saying: " I'm Jesus 2.0, the one & only upgrade ".

What have you done that has made you " the one & only upgrade " ?
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              Schadenfreude  lk620idai8fjvicqq7bmctmst61nnvuso8@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  nkp20i5mbvbbdgos1291muq4aa3e76vcr5@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  7638cdb4-126b-4287-a668-4a0309376834n@googlegroups.com
        JoelCrump  gts20i1bta99t3lm7pt3hpkrhshvkv1b5p@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  7203fec1-19da-4de5-a391-1801084b6425n@googlegroups.com
    JoelCrump  8nh40i1tm6dgrj5229kmelmumm6hbq9fkq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--0.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (78)  OK; 4.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 { 11:22am, 2023 }: 3^(-5)  七逹哛
      " A Jesus" or " Jesus, the one & only " ?

JoelCrump:
> I am Jesus, the government did do this, because of my identity, for some reason.

" A Jesus " or " Jesus, the one & only " ?
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              Schadenfreude  74240idapv5m5blvp7cl5tq8s08io07lut@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  5a340ip06q0u6m3scnq85ul7ilrnjgujih@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.18am.Seattle.2023
        JoelCrump  g5b40ihb0g619a4f74rdfthmimtk4t42s4@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.41am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  iih40i1t6ov65n987e6qahg450vpt4c0vc@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--11.58am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (78)  OK; 14 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 { 11:12am, 2023 }:10^(-5)  七逹劊
      NATO is weak sauce, pathetic.

You're the same age as Ian, my housemate,
who looks like ( a younger ) Keanu Reeves.

My other housemate, Paul, an Air Force veteran,
is too old/weak to work a job anymore ( covid ? );
_depressed_, he's checking into a "funny farm" soon.

> I've had every kind of sex there is, gay and straight.

You don't like conservative Christians;
so I'm assuming you don't like "breeders" either.

Note: it wasn't a conservative Christian who attacked Pelosi in San Francisco.
Speaking of religion . . .

China brags about its magnificent "freedom of religion";
but, if you don't properly worship "Chairman Xi",
they'll harvest your organs on the spot.

Russia too boasts of its generous "freedom of religion";
however, if you don't properly worship Putin,
you'll get a rare disease & fall out a window into the raging sea.

"Patriotism" is instilled into tiny noggins from age 5;
this way, they won't complain when asked to kill & die.

NATO is weak sauce, pathetic.
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              Schadenfreude  sk040ipmgvs7vuhil62h3m7ggtjctf3gb3@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  pp040iplsvbd2tei7t725jdl0karr9iqtk@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  74240idapv5m5blvp7cl5tq8s08io07lut@4ax.com
        JoelCrump  5a340ip06q0u6m3scnq85ul7ilrnjgujih@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.18am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  g5b40ihb0g619a4f74rdfthmimtk4t42s4@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.41am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (77)  OK; 5.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 {  9:22am, 2023 }:59^(-5)  七逸諳
      I crush Pepsi cans by hand, fast & easy.

Re:  imgur.com/yamNpUG.jpg

You weren't lying about the Pepsi drinking;
I crush Pepsi cans by hand, fast & easy.

I can tell by the stains on the door that your hands are black, dirty.

You're a strawberry blonde with a TallThin nose & blue eyes; ultra white.

You appear to be about 40 years old.

Are you a virgin ?
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              me4guns  ttsocs$ko36$1@dont-email.me
            JoelCrump  0nt30it7nk25mcos7vagrlg0ano7vko650@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  sk040ipmgvs7vuhil62h3m7ggtjctf3gb3@4ax.com
        JoelCrump  pp040iplsvbd2tei7t725jdl0karr9iqtk@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  74240idapv5m5blvp7cl5tq8s08io07lut@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  5a340ip06q0u6m3scnq85ul7ilrnjgujih@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.18am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (76)  OK; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  3 {  7:12am, 2023 }: 4^(-5)  七逸汄
      Joel, What do you look like ?

What do you look like, Joel ?

There's a photo of me on my website: Jeff-Relf.Me 
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              max_headroom│maximusheadroom@gmx_com  ttpp57$8sjk$2@dont-email.me
            JoelCrump  l2710i5o16ubqglfp5r59is0flqbkre4o0@4ax.com
          me4guns  ttq7v6$a9dq$7@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.18am.Seattle.2023
      JoelCrump  68c10i5ims0nft27akpnad1t6re8e3i3oa@4ax.com
    me4guns  ttr254$ctvo$9@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--9.23pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  (26)  OK; 8.5 Hours, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar  2 {  0:39pm, 2023 }:27^(-5)  七逵嵿
      The Department of Energy never gets it wrong.

Re: The FBI and the Department of Energy says China is hiding damning evidence.

You (me4guns) replied ( to JoelCrump ):
> > I don't read fiction, Jeff.  There's a lot of bullshit "info" out
> > there, these days.  And this BS about the Wuhan lab is one of the
> > greatest examples of that.
> 
> What's interesting is your refusal to even consider something 
> other than what you've been spoon fed by the media.

He's right to not trust the FBI but, in my experience,
the Department of Energy never gets it wrong.
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          JoelCrump  damuvh19kibpe68scnfgodc6fv3c0jgkoi@4ax.com
        ChrisV  9vmuvhl9p3sn6c9tba8pv70stkia0ihpn3@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  387d18ab-6b07-4b9c-8a66-0d186a3ca273n@googlegroups.com
    ChrisV  or710it0j19m7dij385g5hsv96m1keoruk@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.43am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (68)  OK; 44.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Mar  2 {  5:13am, 2023 }: 7^(-6)  七逳飣
      Reducing the world's population even further.

The pandemic left many disabled, unable to work, including me.

The popularity of fentanyl, the disdain for "breeders", & willful ignorance,
might reduce the world's population even further.

The only _true_ vote is the one you make with your feet.
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              JoelCrump  cqfvvhl8jlt851ml6q8v3hiareolkuh6ia@4ax.com
            max_headroom│maximusheadroom@gmx_com  ttp0ik$3sff$3@dont-email.me
          JoelCrump  fi200i15eq4dnjt83gea0ukmaj9voc18el@4ax.com
        max_headroom│maximusheadroom@gmx_com  ttpp57$8sjk$2@dont-email.me
      JoelCrump  l2710i5o16ubqglfp5r59is0flqbkre4o0@4ax.com
    me4guns  ttq7v6$a9dq$7@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.18am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (22)  OK; 35.2 Minutes, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar  2 {  5:22am, 2023 }:24^(-5)  七逳鬐
      No one is blinder than he who won't see.

Re: China hiding damning evidence.

me4guns noted:
> China was creating a covid virus, funded by Americans,
> and genetic manipulation markers are found in the original strain of Covid.

No one is blinder than he who won't see.

Joel's _willful_ ignorance prevents him from looking into it.
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              Schadenfreude  gepuvhl1mm4mil0ekjg0rf8aptihh0ffds@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  rdsuvhl80b24bgbpv11uek8r42f5103iag@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  v9uuvh1np3107n3stg0bkoepb54rj5n4ge@4ax.com
        JoelCrump  h0vuvhhgqs5ocb1mg0ufr4b4rm33p03sne@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  sovuvh947f9bcs505aivl3cgobl6794onr@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  ouvuvhl2um3hrhq1cnr1hid9nsst5t46ig@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--9.00am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 1  (53)  OK; 10.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  1 {  8:41am, 2023 }:12^(-5)  七逰渨
      Diet Pepsi ( i.e. caffeine, stimulants ) weakens your immune system.

Diet Pepsi ( i.e. caffeine, stimulants ) weakens your immune system, 
making you more susceptible to covid (&cancer).

If you're Christ, who is the AntiChrist ?!
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              ChrisV  9vmuvhl9p3sn6c9tba8pv70stkia0ihpn3@4ax.com
            JoelCrump  f7ouvhd7jmmumpa024k91juhk85m92ea2i@4ax.com
          Schadenfreude  orouvhpm960jja0gr01cbpj2jlsr3h014e@4ax.com
        JoelCrump  o7puvhh14n4pp6a4nkkbtna8hqfusc2fno@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  gepuvhl1mm4mil0ekjg0rf8aptihh0ffds@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  rdsuvhl80b24bgbpv11uek8r42f5103iag@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--8.37am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (51)  OK; 24.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  1 {  7:43am, 2023 }:53^(-5)  七逰悹
      Herbal "rollies".

JoelCrump wrote:
> I continued smoking cigarettes while I was sick, 
> which made me cough like crazy.

I smoke herbal "rollies" ( hand rolled cigarettes, raspberry leaves ).

At times, I feel a tickle in my _throat_ ( not lungs );
spritzing mouthwash makes it go away.
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        JoelCrump  damuvh19kibpe68scnfgodc6fv3c0jgkoi@4ax.com
      ChrisV  9vmuvhl9p3sn6c9tba8pv70stkia0ihpn3@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  f7ouvhd7jmmumpa024k91juhk85m92ea2i@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--7.20am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  (50)  OK; 34.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  1 {  6:32am, 2023 }: 8^(-5)  七逰俨
      I'm not the only one.

The only true vote is the one you make with your feet.

JoelCrump wrote:
> the U.S. Government intentionally exposed *me* to COVID

The pandemic left me disabled, unable to work.
I'm not the only one.
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        JoelCrump  35utvht0rkuqullde58uunkf44tchns3fe@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--11.55pm.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  6f2uvhl7jqq2pug78f0n7c25rsn5h4tpu8@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--1.15am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Drugs.Psychedelics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop
    ╱ 1  (44)  OK; 51.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Mar  1 {  0:17am, 2023 }:17^(-5)  七逮鰍
      The mother of harlots.

You (JoelCrump) replied ( to me ):
> > Babylon is the devil, the villain.
> > Isaiah 13:19–22; Revelation 17:5; 18:2; Jeremiah 51:37, 52–58; Ephesians 6:12.
> 
> Care to elaborate at all, Jeff ?

Has something confused you ?
If so, read the citations.

Revelation 17:5 says:
On her forehead was written a name, which is a mystery,
“ Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and 
  of the abominations of the earth. ”
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    JoelCrump  35utvht0rkuqullde58uunkf44tchns3fe@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--11.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Drugs.Psychedelics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Computer.Workshop
    ╱ 1  (43)  OK; 17.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Feb 28 { 11:05pm, 2023 }:14^(-5)  七逮謪
      Babylon is the devil, the villain.

Re: "Be still, and know that I am God" psalms 46:10

Babylon is the devil, the villain.
Isaiah 13:19–22; Revelation 17:5; 18:2; Jeremiah 51:37, 52–58; Ephesians 6:12.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--6.26pm.Seattle.2023
          ChrisV  f59cvhlrvppue6ilkdtm65r60houdb9afk@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--2.38pm.Seattle.2023
      ChrisV  erpfvhhs7ikmrpcv32fc2rrsr0rsnc8smh@4ax.com
    pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tt8s41$207k7$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--4.22pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 1  (20)  OK; 23.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Feb 23 {  3:16pm, 2023 }:18  七逘釂
"Genius" Politicians.

Only ponzi schemes promise a HalfDecent payout.
"Genius" Politicians _mandate_ higher wages & lower rents.
NATO is a one-legged spastic in an AssKicking contest.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--6.26pm.Seattle.2023
            ChrisV  f59cvhlrvppue6ilkdtm65r60houdb9afk@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--2.38pm.Seattle.2023
        Eskimo  HLydnX4-QtZcB2v-nZ2dnZfqn_oAAAAA@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--2.56pm.Seattle.2023
    ScottDoty  pan$e4d99$25d22711$57022ae1$8051ef93@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--7.09pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (13)  OK; 53.7 Minutes, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Feb 22 {  5:50pm, 2023 }:39  七逕婯
      Eskimo's tribe ?

Re: NickNaming "%" "Eskimo".

I've never heard the word "Eskimo" being used in a derogatory manner.

What tribe does he belong to, if any ?
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--6.26pm.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  f59cvhlrvppue6ilkdtm65r60houdb9afk@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--2.38pm.Seattle.2023
    Eskimo  HLydnX4-QtZcB2v-nZ2dnZfqn_oAAAAA@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--2.56pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (17)  OK; 6.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Feb 22 {  2:44pm, 2023 }:16^(-7)  七途胀
      Do you live in an Alaskan fjord ?

You (Eskimo) replied ( to me ):
> > I don't see work opportunities for me.
> > My landlord could triple my rent at any time.
> 
> i use my saving to buy popsicles in the summer

What do you do with the sticks ?

Do you live in an Alaskan fjord ? 
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--6.26pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  f59cvhlrvppue6ilkdtm65r60houdb9afk@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--2.38pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  (85)  OK; 7.8 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Feb 22 {  6:25am, 2023 }:38^(-6)  七逓巢
      Ditching my savings.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > If my savings don't last 20 years, as expected,
> > I'll figure it out then.
> 
> You have savings?  I thought you were anti-savings.

I'm ditching my savings because it's losing value; also:

-- I don't see work opportunities for me.

-- My landlord could triple my rent at any time.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--6.26pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
      "Moral" or not, (government) guns control the money.

"Moral" or not, (government) guns control the money.
When they offer me some, I accept.

I go months without seeing either of my (shy) housemates.

Seattle gives me laws & lawyers to fight my (unlucky) landlord.

If my savings don't last 20 years, as expected,
I'll figure it out then.
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              ChrisV  ie0nuhh7bhpvkq7vn6amd7h75bl87oibdt@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  148a2606-c90e-4783-87cc-5141620efc31n@googlegroups.com
          ChrisV  f9atuht4v90bb1oqnhmc2e0mvuicmglchb@4ax.com
        Rockinghorse_Winner│Rockinghorse@amgen_com  tsri4l$4muq$6@dont-email.me
      ChrisV  v115vhl1sevhck3n3edtkrnk9mclbgnanv@4ax.com
    rBowman  k5fod5Fal59U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--4.04pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (90)  OK; 11.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Feb 19 {  3:07pm, 2023 }:17  七逈榥
      An Android is like a bicycle.

You (rBowman) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > And my midrange-at-the-time Google Pixel 3XL phone does everything I need,
>
> I've got a Nokia 4.2. 

I like my 32" curved 4k monitor & g600 mouse.
MMS (multimedia) texts ( via email & website ) & Bria Win10 softphone.
Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG

Recently, my monitor arm destroyed my last monitor cable;
I had to use my Amazon Fire tablet to order backups.
I've been breaking too many of these cables, God dammit !

A 2-Pack of 10 foot 8k HDMI 2.1 Cables, "SnowKids", 
14 $; price includes overnight shipping, 9am arrival.

To me, an Android is like a bicycle;
it works but it ain't no sports car ( 32" curved 4k ArmMounted monitor ).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--3.08pm.Seattle.2023
            ChrisV  ie0nuhh7bhpvkq7vn6amd7h75bl87oibdt@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  148a2606-c90e-4783-87cc-5141620efc31n@googlegroups.com
        ChrisV  f9atuht4v90bb1oqnhmc2e0mvuicmglchb@4ax.com
      Rockinghorse_Winner│Rockinghorse@amgen_com  tsri4l$4muq$6@dont-email.me
    ChrisV  v115vhl1sevhck3n3edtkrnk9mclbgnanv@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--3.15pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (98)  OK; 1.5 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Feb 19 {  0:31pm, 2023 }:12^(-6)  七逇霐
      Protesters are mentally ill.

ChrisV quoted "AnonLinuxUser":
> "the D.C. police let Antifa and BLM in, and showed them where to go."

Protesters are mentally ill.
The topless guy, with the antlers, is _not_ a conservative Christian.
He's doing 4+ years in solitary confinement, the worst torture known to man.

> I'm a terrible, far too conservative, investor.  But I do save.

Too much money is a bad thing, in my opinion.
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    ScottDoty  pan$2c268$7bda2618$ffb8be79$d686bf9e@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--3.08pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (18)  OK; 14.3 Minutes, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Feb 13 {  2:41pm, 2023 }:33  七迯粝
      55.79 % of smartphones sold are iPhones

Often, Linux isn't the best choice.

55.79 % of smartphones sold are iPhones
( December 2022, United States ).
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        Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAFA3B7607E62D2322222@88.198.57.247
      ChrisV  o0k5uhpl92786d5o5r3hbpuqj26j59alvp@4ax.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--6.57pm.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.19am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics.Democrats, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    +-, 4.4 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Feb  7 {  2:31pm, 2023 }:26^(-6)  七迖錾
      Pelosi's attacker was no conservative Christian.

Re: Yesterday's "State of the Union" address.

"Curing" cancer|covid is a great MoneyMaking machine;
no one knows if your treatment$ actually help or not.

Excessive cocaine|caffeine usage causes cancer, HIV & covid;
BigPharma would know this if it wasn't so (willfully) blind.

(Willfully) blind Democrats don't know who is attacking them;
Pelosi's attacker was no conservative Christian.
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      Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAFA3B7607E62D2322222@88.198.57.247
    ChrisV  o0k5uhpl92786d5o5r3hbpuqj26j59alvp@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--6.57pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics.Democrats, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    +-, 4.4 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Feb  7 {  2:31pm, 2023 }:26^(-6)  七迖錾
      "Life" is a borked game that is simultaneously everything & nothing.

Re: Tonight's "State of the Union" address.

"Life" is a borked game that is simultaneously everything & nothing.
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    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  iyAEL.622308$iS99.407886@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--5.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (117)  OK; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Feb  7 {  2:47pm, 2023 }:43^(-5)  七迖霏
      Nothing is "stolen" if merely copy an idea, refine it.

Nothing is "stolen" if I merely copy an idea, refine it.

It might be illegal ( & plain stupid ) to copy source code;
but it's never "theft".

Elon musk doesn't want to run twitter per se,
he just wants to do a _clean_ rewrite,
so he has full control of the software.
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              ChrisV  05obrhhkaf8ha61e7rjr6721po9odr469f@4ax.com
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp7nm1$2upv5$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.5--5.01pm.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  2l6hrhdll9c13is2h0urohaeredqsjtq9k@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--8.09am.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  mhk5uh9r1p62nn4fd14fgdped4o23nmbj3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--4.40pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (106)  OK; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Feb  7 {  2:38pm, 2023 }:48^(-6)  七迖铸
      I start my day with peanut butter, straight from a ( 5 lb ) jar.

ChrisV asked me:
> Do you take vitamins or other supplements ?  I take daily vitamins,
> minerals, fish oil, and Glucosamine/Condroitin/MSM (for joints).

No, nothing like that, no pills.

I'll spritz mouthwash; that's it.
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        Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF9CDA4202A742322222@88.198.57.247
      ChrisV  mddnthl89j5j4v68u3ed55kp7q138d43jj@4ax.com
    rBowman  k423vvF7s1jU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.38pm.Seattle.2023
  ➤Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 2  (94)  OK; 4.4 Days, Pan, Individual.NET,  Feb  2 {  7:42am, 2023 }:55  七迁嗿
      Life is imitating videogames.

You (rBowman) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > I've had enough of the devisive extremism on both sides.
> 
> I've had enough of both wings of the FluRidden vulture.

Life is imitating videogames.
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              ChrisV  ju29rhhmqpb7hs8t74hm7qj4ig6grl506v@4ax.com
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp28bv$27pc5$2@dont-email.me
          Eskimo  EWudnVe6Y-n6Oin-nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
        ChrisV  ild9rh95men2ll314orj4tu8q22j4nq2ib@4ax.com
      pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp2f51$28gti$2@dont-email.me
    Eskimo  VY-dnW9OpOtMUyn-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.31pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (16)  OK; 1.1 Months, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM,  Jan  3 {  4:56pm, 2023 }:45^(-7)  七轇廍
      Eskimo, Where do you live ?

Eskimo:
> as for temps around here i get -35c ,
> i have to use a charger a lot on the car

Where do you live, Eskimo ?
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        Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF80D2F71A2A92322222@88.198.57.247
      Swilly  o7p8rhp3nbvkpjvdkdcbavm01bo76e2604@4ax.com
    ChrisV  mhq8rh9p2vgv1g2b81r5u67qtrtep536t3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--9.05am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 15  (111)  OK; 1.1 Months, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  3 {  9:50am, 2023 }:25^(-6)  七轅黡
      Freedom of Religion.

ChrisV wrote:
> evolution denier (and right-wing kook) RonB

China brags about its magnificent "freedom of religion";
but, if you don't properly worship "Chairman Xi",
they'll harvest your organs on the spot.

Russia too boasts of its generous "freedom of religion";
however, if you don't properly worship Putin,
you'll get a rare disease & fall out a window, into the sea.

"Patriotism" is instilled into tiny noggins from age 1;
this way, they won't complain when asked to kill & die.
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              Schadenfreude  0mt6rh17c7050tgt9chp0qfp5uslb0ov9q@4ax.com
            Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsAF80D38516BF3noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.54
          duck_water│rotten_rooter@scammers_com  tp11oe$3oh4i$1@news.mixmin.net
        Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsAF814FF68EFB8noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.57
      Swilly  9go8rh94i1soml4naccfht71aqpeqjgukq@4ax.com
    ChrisV  jbq8rh9n89fpi5dik2leg5abip1ihge9bg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--8.42am.Seattle.2023
  Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc, Alt.Trades.Plumbing
    ╱ 16  (111)  OK; 1.1 Months, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  3 {  9:46am, 2023 }:12^(-6)  七轅鷤
      Anarchists are not far left troopers.

ChrisV mentioned:
> lying kook RonB, trying to blame leftists for the assault on the capital.

Anarchists are not far left troopers.

If you look into it, as I have, you'll soon notice that the rioters, 
including the Capitol Hill ones, are just a bunch of anarchists 
who, for example, tore down Portland's famous/historic elk monument.

Portland's Mayor gleefully presumed that AntiFa was on his side;
he could _Not_ have been more wrong;
they literally smoked him out of his residence, forcing him to move out.
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              HughHuntzinger  2b85e684-d49f-428c-a967-11ecb00a982cn@googlegroups.com
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp2f9c$28gti$3@dont-email.me
          ChrisV  05obrhhkaf8ha61e7rjr6721po9odr469f@4ax.com
        pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp7nm1$2upv5$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.5--5.01pm.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  2l6hrhdll9c13is2h0urohaeredqsjtq9k@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--8.09am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 17  (111)  OK; 1 Months, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  6 {  2:08pm, 2023 }:13^(-6)  七轓反
      I start my day with peanut butter, straight from a ( 5 lb ) jar.

ChrisV wrote:
> A typical meal is some fatty meat with some veggies, then a sweet treat.

I start my day with peanut butter, straight from a ( 5 lb ) jar.

I dip stuff in thousand Island dressing (&jam).

I pour it into a Tupperware container ( with a lid ).

Normally, I'm dipping bread or imitation crab, not chips.

I cook/eat BlackenedYetRare sausages when I feel like OverIndulging. 
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.33am.Seattle.2023
            ChrisV  mai8rhdcj4osfisi6hfb4gjfvk237106k9@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  2b85e684-d49f-428c-a967-11ecb00a982cn@googlegroups.com
        pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp2f9c$28gti$3@dont-email.me
      ChrisV  05obrhhkaf8ha61e7rjr6721po9odr469f@4ax.com
    pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp7nm1$2upv5$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--7.49am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  (21)  OK; 1 Months, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan  5 {  3:49pm, 2023 }:21  七轏戁
      Only the rich eat meat.

Re: Eating fewer carbohydrates.

Jesus ate bread.
Confucius ( 551 BC ) was all about the rice.

Only the rich eat meat; 
modern day HunterGathers mostly eat GovernmentSupplied cornmeal, not meat.
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              ChrisV  ju29rhhmqpb7hs8t74hm7qj4ig6grl506v@4ax.com
            pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp28bv$27pc5$2@dont-email.me
          PeeScent  EWudnVe6Y-n6Oin-nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
        ChrisV  ild9rh95men2ll314orj4tu8q22j4nq2ib@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--4.45pm.Seattle.2023
    Swilly  c1m9rhdbkfbfgom9kvptqa3begr3j12uce@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--7.24am.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 83  (176)  OK; 1.1 Months, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Jan  3 {  5:37pm, 2023 }: 4^(-5)  七轇桀
      China is now BANKING ON NATURAL IMMUNITY.

Re: China is now BANKING ON NATURAL IMMUNITY.

Swilly replied:
> Hallucinogens are not food.
> "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

Say that 50 times each morning, then report back to us.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--11.19am.Seattle.2023
        JoelCrump  p5c6rh9t9bmuqhgufi4m7on3a27753u8ii@4ax.com
      Schadenfreude  t6e6rh1vii5706e4fhrtj8o2fedab6cqor@4ax.com
    JoelCrump  ukf6rh5fn0ke2hs984216o85bvqh5q3kut@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--7.11am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  (83)  OK; 1.1 Months, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Jan  2 {  0:30pm, 2023 }: 5^(-5)  七轂棍
      How the Federal Reserve works.

JoelCrump wrote:
> Elon's pathetic.

He doesn't understand how the Federal Reserve works.

When the Fed raises rates, they're "Taking away the punch bowl",
not navigating a hairpin turn blindly, as Elon imagines.

The subsequent recession is the hangover.

Then we get "a hair of the dog that bit me", and history repeats.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--11.19am.Seattle.2023
    JoelCrump  p5c6rh9t9bmuqhgufi4m7on3a27753u8ii@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--6.59am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  (83)  OK; 1.1 Months, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Jan  2 { 11:30am, 2023 }:48^(-5)  七轂嫨
      Should Tesla's tax subsidies be taken away ?

You (JoelCrump) replied ( to me ):
> > Twitter employees bring their own toilet paper to work.
> 
> Elon is just another dumb white boy .

Chicago's Lori Lightfoot could do better ?

Should Tesla's tax subsidies be taken away ?
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Jan 17, 2023
I'm happy with my situation, no complaints.
You're _Not_ happy with my situation, lots of complaints.

Your intolerance Pete, and the intolerance of Seattle (Re: smoking & Covid), 
has banished _Millions_ of innocents.   Millions have died.
For the first time in history, our life expectancy is dropping !

BigPharma is just as bloody as any other drug cartel.
■
Jan 14, 2023
According to you (Taterball69), forcing landlords to rent to scofflaw smokers
would _not_ remove their "autonomy" over their properties.

My experience screams otherwise.

For _me_, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year
(1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)).

Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle,
where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month.
Early 2023, rent&utilities in "shared housing" cost me ~1000 $/month.

My living conditions have improved . . . but I can't pay less.
Two can live as cheaply as one . . . provided they don't kill each other.

Globally, black & white thinking dictators print their way out of debt;
there's a 0.000 % chance that anything else will happen.
■
Jan 13, 2023
Red Pilled or not, your pod is attached to The Matrix,
like a barnacle on SS America, waiting for sh*t to float by.

While you (TechLead) are trying to impress girls with your 
physical ability, oxidizing/burning yourself up, I'll be 
exercising the only organ that actually matters: my brain.

"God bless the child that has his own", he'll never be lonely.
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              Schadenfreude  8flerhhlvvuer55okku53vcuskn7kelh3l@4ax.com
            me4guns  tp9a58$366o4$1@dont-email.me
          governor_swill@gmail_com  4akgrhl8moqv3rm7s70j5d49un0m40ef3m@4ax.com
        ¿NoBody│NoBody@nowhere_com  652jrh5gif6shsiejti4dskaj5sv8alfac@4ax.com
      me4guns  tpha52$7j1h$2@dont-email.me
    Köhlmann  tpheee$80ik$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.9--1.12pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (24) Top; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan  9 {  8:13am, 2023 }: 2^(1)  七轞漎
      BigPharma f*cks you in the ass; Breitbart not so much.

Re: Breitbart lies.

BigPharma f*cks you in the ass; Breitbart not so much.
BigPharma is just as bad as any other drug cartel.
We loath the WHO's willful ignorance (ProBigPharma).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.33am.Seattle.2023
            ChrisV  mai8rhdcj4osfisi6hfb4gjfvk237106k9@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  2b85e684-d49f-428c-a967-11ecb00a982cn@googlegroups.com
        ¿pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp2f9c$28gti$3@dont-email.me
      ChrisV  05obrhhkaf8ha61e7rjr6721po9odr469f@4ax.com
    ¿pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp7nm1$2upv5$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.5--5.01pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (30) Bad; 55.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan  5 {  3:49pm, 2023 }:21  七轏戁
      Bread, Cheese, Peanut Butter & Jelly.

Re: Low carb, keto diet.

I feel best when eating simple, to wit:

   Bread, Cheese, Peanut Butter & Jelly.
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              ChrisV  mai8rhdcj4osfisi6hfb4gjfvk237106k9@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  2b85e684-d49f-428c-a967-11ecb00a982cn@googlegroups.com
          ¿pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp2f9c$28gti$3@dont-email.me
        PeeScent  hNCcnX3C3OJ4UCn-nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com
      rBowman  k1k36lF8ao1U1@mid.individual.net
    ChrisV  cknbrh91hhuvok10v9cthmo8vki232qpjg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--4.29pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (161)  OK; 36.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  4 {  0:17pm, 2023 }:20^(-6)  七轊磐
      HotPretzel.JPG

You (ChrisV) replied ( to rBowman ):
> > " (Patti) LaBelle - Lady Marmalade (1975) "
> > youtube.com/watch?v=t4LWIP7SAjY
> 
> Wow, that backup singer on the right is smokin' hot.

This (porn) girl is hotter:  Jeff-Relf.Me/HotPretzel.JPG
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              governor_swill@gmail_com  o7p8rhp3nbvkpjvdkdcbavm01bo76e2604@4ax.com
            ChrisV  mhq8rh9p2vgv1g2b81r5u67qtrtep536t3@4ax.com
          ChrisV  ju29rhhmqpb7hs8t74hm7qj4ig6grl506v@4ax.com
        ¿pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tp28bv$27pc5$2@dont-email.me
      PeeScent  EWudnVe6Y-n6Oin-nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
    ChrisV  ild9rh95men2ll314orj4tu8q22j4nq2ib@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--4.45pm.Seattle.2023
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (159)  OK; 3.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  3 {  3:30pm, 2023 }:42^(-6)  七轆鲢
      China is now BANKING ON NATURAL IMMUNITY.

ChrisV:
> "recovering from Covid means you're immune, truly immune"
> -  RonB, lying shamelessly

Big Pharma ( Bill Gates ) has banned all discussion of natural immunity;
in California, doctors _automatically_ lose their license if they mention it.

Why do you suppose that is ?!

Big Pharma's opinion is just that, a (willfully) ignorant _opinion_,
no more valid than my opinion, or your opinion, or anyone else's.

Last month, China flipped the switch on its "Zero Covid" policy;
just like that, overnight, China is now BANKING ON NATURAL IMMUNITY.

China wants _everyone_ to get Covid, seriously;
it's no worse than getting the flu, they say,
& "Zero Covid" was f*cking everyone up, killing them along with the economy.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.14am.Seattle.2023
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.33am.Seattle.2023
      ChrisV  mai8rhdcj4osfisi6hfb4gjfvk237106k9@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  2b85e684-d49f-428c-a967-11ecb00a982cn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--4.23pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (74) Top; 21.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Jan  3 {  3:12pm, 2023 }: 4^(PST)  七轆顄
      Danish Orchards, strawberry.

Huntzinger mentioned:
> Bonne Maman’s cherry preserves on a PB&J.

Amazon Fresh carries Bonne Maman’s but I can't stand glass bottles;
I prefer plastic so I can compress them ( after cutting them up );
this way, I don't have to carry so much garbage out to the dumpster.

Danish Orchards, strawberry, is my favorite
but Amazon Fresh doesn't carry it.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.14am.Seattle.2023
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.33am.Seattle.2023
        ChrisV  mai8rhdcj4osfisi6hfb4gjfvk237106k9@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--9.35am.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  t339rhlgkoq4rjbs9hpdera9dksges9l8d@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--0.55pm.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  (161)  OK; 22.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  3 {  0:18pm, 2023 }:28^(-6)  七轆澔
      Down by the Provo River (Utah).

ChrisV wrote:
> when I say peanut butter, I mean 100% ground peanuts.  Not
> crap like Skippy that has added sugar and hydrogenated vegetable oil.

I prefer Skippy.

I made a lot of almond butter in my day, when I was younger.

I made my own bread & pancakes too, using freshly ground flour.

Raw milk from local, friendly cows, down by the Provo River (Utah);
homemade, drinkable yogurt.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.14am.Seattle.2023
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.33am.Seattle.2023
    ChrisV  mai8rhdcj4osfisi6hfb4gjfvk237106k9@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--9.35am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  (156)  OK; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan  3 {  7:35am, 2023 }:31^(-6)  七轅罃
      PB & J sandwiches

ChrisV wrote:
> I've made myself a couple of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for
> lunch.  Can't wait.
> 
> Pro tip:  Apply jelly while the bread is frozen.  This allows you to
> crush/spread the jelly without crushing the bread.

Perfect !
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--11.19am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
      The free buffet is gone.

Elon Musk sold 39 billion $ of his Tesla stock at its peak.
The Twitter stock he bought is now worth half as much.
He fired 75% of Twitter's staff & closed the Seattle branch.

He consolidated 6 floors of a San Francisco building into 2 floors
& fired the janitorial service -- employees have to bring
their own toilet paper to work.  The free buffet is gone.
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    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.14am.Seattle.2023
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.33am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Russia & China are nasty, out-of-control, spreading fires.

Russia & China are nasty, out-of-control, spreading fires.

I don't cook; my food waits for me, not vice versa.
Bread when hungry;  Cheese for flavor; Peanut Butter Cup dessert.

Squiggling my tongue around at "night" prevents a dry cough.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--8.14am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Russia & China are nasty, out-of-control, spreading fires.

Russia & China are nasty, out-of-control, spreading fires.

I don't cook; my food waits for me, not vice versa.
Bread when hungry;  Cheese for flavor;  Peanut Butter Cup dessert.

Squiggling my tongue around at "night" prevents a dry cough.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--5.59am.Seattle.2023
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Elon Musk _insists_ on a clean rewrite (Twitter) !

Idiots here keep saying source code should look a certain way,
so it's "maintainable".

Elon Musk _insists_ on a clean rewrite (Twitter) !
See: "Elon Musk joins George Hotz’s Twitter Space to discuss software stacks".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkNkSQ42jg4
Comments are turned _off_.
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        ¿Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF798A846A3DF2322222@88.198.57.247
      Tim_Smith│Tim_Smith@fakeemails_org  0DmqL.31469$PXw7.5051@fx45.iad
    ChrisV  bdpmqhp1hrk9r338803qhnm7gsp8u9n2lv@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--5.06pm.Seattle.2022
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (177)  OK; 3 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Dec 27 {  1:42pm, 2022 }:47^(-6)  七輩鋗
      Andrew Tate on Dubai, Power & Christianity

ChrisV cites:
> government-inches-closer-to-mandatory-breathalyzers

Andrew Tate on Dubai & Power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Ta3srGmXo

Andrew Tate on Christianity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ax2mqusV2Q
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--4.16am.Seattle.2022
    ChrisV  bopmqh9kh9od04ptpamm96aksl8iifmmis@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--4.49pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 2  (177)  OK; 2.9 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Dec 27 {  1:44pm, 2022 }:44^(-6)  七輩鍌
      Food waits for me, not vice versa.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > Bread when hungry; Goldfish for flavor; Peanut Butter Cups for dessert.
> 
> You're living large, Relf !

Low Stress.
Food waits for me, not vice versa.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--4.16am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
      Bread when hungry.

Bread when hungry;
(Goldfish) crackers for flavor;
Peanut Butter Cups for dessert.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.26--8.42am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
      Putin will suffer Hitler's fate; the Climate Cult like The Soviet Union.

Putin will suffer Hitler's fate; the Climate Cult like The Soviet Union.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.25--4.35am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
      RedPilled, Andrew "What color is your Bugatti?" Tate.

RedPilled, Andrew "What color is your Bugatti?" Tate made 
millions off his stable of (Romanian) ChatterBate/OnlyFans girls;
catfishing, he sent men "sexy" text messages begging for money.

He took the girls "from the mean streets to the hotel suites"; 
they f*ucking loved it/him; no laws were broken . . . never ever.
Cam Girls have more, relaxed fun, _and_ are paid more !

Mohammed (PBUH) was impressed, so now he's Muslim.
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                rBowman  k0kl3uFdkpcU1@mid.individual.net
              HughHuntzinger  db0f4799-fcd7-4434-8bc8-d6f6081b8688n@googlegroups.com
            rBowman  k0md5oFlrniU1@mid.individual.net
          HughHuntzinger  1b2cc3ca-f6bf-4ef0-9eb7-4dbdf35beae7n@googlegroups.com
        rBowman  k0n17mFoovpU3@mid.individual.net
      HughHuntzinger  fbd32fee-17ec-464e-b6f4-12d1f151fa05n@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--5.43pm.Seattle.2022
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--8.41pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (87) Top; 55 Secs, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Dec 23 {  5:37pm, 2022 }: 6^(PST)  七輚凂
      We had the best government that BigPharma/BillGates could buy.

Society can't fight "God" ( Mother Nature ).

We had the best government that BigPharma/BillGates could buy;
then, mentioning natural immunity was heresy, a high crime;
now, China is (hilariously) placing all its bets on natural immunity.
[ China' Lunar New Year begins Jan 22;
  lasts 2 weeks, from new moon to full moon ]

Next up: The Climate Cult gets exposed.
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              ChrisV  h257qhd3hf86287qbv7ld2hkfrn16mdnj9@4ax.com
            Köhlmann  to1l88$1cip9$1@dont-email.me
          ChrisV  kse9qhlrbnrbbcg0d2u2gc6tbqbpd7v7gc@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--3.29pm.Seattle.2022
      Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsAF75D670EB7E6noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.50
    governor_swill@gmail_com  hunaqhlagk9ubcrtkljgntia60fi7t2r85@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--1.16am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (144) Bad; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Dec 23 {  0:00am, 2022 }:57^(-5)  七輗倹
      To the moon, like TSLA.

"swill":
> My tires, my refrigerator, my phone . . .

 . . . are all going up in price . . . to the moon, like TSLA.
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              Köhlmann  tnuujr$119ht$1@dont-email.me
            ChrisV  h257qhd3hf86287qbv7ld2hkfrn16mdnj9@4ax.com
          Köhlmann  to1l88$1cip9$1@dont-email.me
        ChrisV  kse9qhlrbnrbbcg0d2u2gc6tbqbpd7v7gc@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--3.29pm.Seattle.2022
    Mitchell_Holman│noemail@verizon_net  XnsAF75D670EB7E6noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.50
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--8.52pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  (40) Bad; 1.4 Hours, Xnews, Giganews.COM,  Dec 22 {  7:13pm, 2022 }:22^(0)  七輖廒
      China is falling off the rails, inflation is eating your lunch.

You (Holman) replied ( to me ):
> > Today's solar panels are made by our sworn enemy, China.
> > What could go wrong ?!
> 
> [ Your Philips-328e1ca monitor] was made "by our sworn enemy China"...

....under the direction of Phillips N.V.

China is falling off the rails, inflation is eating your lunch.
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              HughHuntzinger  e76449af-5667-4ded-99a7-76d14852975fn@googlegroups.com
            ChrisV  2bm5qhlccemdq04o250aug1bf6mu3uvqp4@4ax.com
          Köhlmann  tnuujr$119ht$1@dont-email.me
        ChrisV  h257qhd3hf86287qbv7ld2hkfrn16mdnj9@4ax.com
      Köhlmann  to1l88$1cip9$1@dont-email.me
    ChrisV  kse9qhlrbnrbbcg0d2u2gc6tbqbpd7v7gc@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--3.29pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Politics, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 2  (179)  OK; 2.5 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Dec 22 {  0:19pm, 2022 }:15^(-6)  七輕促
      The Climate Cult can never, will never, acknowledge this.

Re:  Harvard Business Review's  
     HBR.ORG/2021/06/the-dark-side-of-solar-power

Today's solar panels are made by our sworn enemy, China.
What could go wrong ?!

The lifespan of a panel is more like 15 years, not 30;
after which it becomes "electronic waste", expensive & toxic.

The Climate Cult can never, will never, acknowledge this.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.19--1.56pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Firefox blocked access my search history.

One year ago, starting with Firefox v94,
Firefox blocked access my search history.

This is a "New" bug:

  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1747531

To revert to Firefox v90, keeping your profile settings:

  -- uninstall Firefox -- reboot -- install Firefox v90
  -- "Firefox.EXE  -p --allow-downgrade" upon _initial_ launch.

To change Gimp's font ( face & size ):

Find, Altar & Uncomment this line:  font_name = "Comic Sans MS 12"
in:   C:/__/EXEs/Gimp/Share/Gimp/2.0/Themes/System/gtkRC

Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT
Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT
Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
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              ChrisV  t6jmph5i5qnq532o3fuf5aqm6ifbj5tv2u@4ax.com
            rBowman  k023noFguncU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.43pm.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  k02cqpFi7oiU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--9.21pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  k03mvaFodiqU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--9.56am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (168) Top; 4.6 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec 16 {  9:07am, 2022 }:54  七軻跪
      The meaning of life, love, etc...

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > Money & Fame are overrated.   Poverty & Obscurity are underrated.
> 
> Obscurity is good. 

Can't get enough of it.

> "True" [Somalian] poverty isn't unless you think hoping to find a 
> pizza in a dumpster for your next meal is a rewarding experience. 

Our government gives me 375 $/month to spend on food that is 
delivered straight to my door, hours after I order it.

> > Billionaire Bankman Fried traded orgies for cellmates.

Crickets.

The meaning of life, love, etc.:

    While we're "free" to pursue our desires, we cannot alter them;
    no, they were programmed into us by nature herself.
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              .  super70s-FE769A.13340314122022@reader01.eternal-september.org
            .  MPG.3e03e4f761efd5e49897fa@news.eternal-september.org
          ¿pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tnfghg$345kl$2@dont-email.me
        Lee│cleetis@gmail_com  u-ScnRMcMIQWcwb-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.56pm.Seattle.2022
    governor_swill@gmail_com  534oph1qk4l6ichrtni36h0sa3ji7dfbja@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--11.10pm.Seattle.2022
  Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  (137) Bad; 15.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Easynews.COM,  Dec 15 { 10:38pm, 2022 }:12^(-5)  七軹鹔
Billionaire Bankman Fried traded orgies for cellmates.

"governor_swill":
> Dems did it again.  They fixed what broke under the Republicans.

Tell that to the growing tent cities, in blue states.

I know from first-hand experience what they think; you, not so much.

By the way, Nancy Pelosi's husband greeted the police at his door; 
later, he struggled with his _lover_ over the hammer;
politics had _nothing_ to do with it.

While we're "free" to pursue our desires, we cannot alter them;
no, they were programmed into us by nature herself.

Billionaire Bankman Fried traded orgies for cellmates.
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              rBowman  k00v23FbnepU3@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.25am.Seattle.2022
          ChrisV  t6jmph5i5qnq532o3fuf5aqm6ifbj5tv2u@4ax.com
        rBowman  k023noFguncU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.43pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  k02cqpFi7oiU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--9.21pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (168) Top; 1.1 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec 15 {  9:08pm, 2022 }:41  七軹襙
      Billionaire Bankman Fried traded orgies for cellmates.

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > I traveled all over America, Canada & Mexico in a propane fueled camper.
> > Disney World & Disneyland.
> > I spent some years in Minas Gerais & São Paulo Brazil.
> 
> And then you apparently melted down... 

Money & Fame are overrated.   Poverty & Obscurity are underrated.

Billionaire Bankman Fried traded orgies for cellmates.
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              .  FGGdnbVo2J4e4Ar-nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com
            .  MPG.3e0190a5e6ef46569897ca@news.eternal-september.org
          .  super70s-FE769A.13340314122022@reader01.eternal-september.org
        .  MPG.3e03e4f761efd5e49897fa@news.eternal-september.org
      ¿pothead│pothead@snakebite_com  tnfghg$345kl$2@dont-email.me
    Lee│cleetis@gmail_com  u-ScnRMcMIQWcwb-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.56pm.Seattle.2022
  Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  (2) ify; 41.1 Minutes, XanaNews, Giganews.COM,  Dec 15 {  8:05pm, 2022 }:31^(0)  七軹窋
      Labor Participation Rate.

Lee wrote:
> job creation and retail sales are at record highs

For me, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year
(1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)).

Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle,
where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month.
Early 2023, rent&utilities will cost me 1000+ $/month.

Although my living conditions have improved, I can't pay less.
Two can live as cheaply as one, if they don't kill each other, _if_.

Globally, central bankers print their way out of debt;
there's a 0.000 % chance that anything else will happen.

Labor Participation Rate:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=MHmA
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              rBowman  jvvf77F4cifU4@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.25pm.Seattle.2022
          rBowman  k00v23FbnepU3@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.25am.Seattle.2022
      ChrisV  t6jmph5i5qnq532o3fuf5aqm6ifbj5tv2u@4ax.com
    rBowman  k023noFguncU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.43pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (167) Top; 54.3 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec 15 {  6:33pm, 2022 }:29  七軹擹
      Cows are cute, bulls not so much.

rBowman:
> [Poor people] eat poorly because their mamas and grandmas ate poorly. 
> [...] most poor people come from a long line of poor people.

I'm unemployed & my rent+utilities is 1000+ $/month.

My grandparents were rich Seattleites.

My mom (R.I.P.) was a fantastic cook ( too good, actually ).
She _always_ maintained a _huge_ garden & canned much of it.
She was _heavy_ into whole foods back in the 1970s, long before it was popular.

My dad bought 24 pound, 350 $ wheels of Jarlsberg cheese, for example.
I drank a lot of raw milk & homemade yogurt; even worked on the farm.
Cows are cute, bulls not so much.

Not only did I eat homemade bread & pancakes, I often made it myself,
starting from whole grains & seeds, ground myself.

We had plenty of money; custom-built, new house.
The house we had in Seattle is now worth 1.2+ million $.

I traveled all over America, Canada & Mexico in a propane fueled camper.
Disney World & Disneyland.
I spent some years in Minas Gerais & São Paulo Brazil.
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              rBowman  jvu6svFt0luU3@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.30am.Seattle.2022
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  JkmmL.57739$iS99.44018@fx16.iad
        rBowman  jvvf77F4cifU4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.25pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  k00v23FbnepU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.25am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (168) Top; 7.3 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec 15 {  8:07am, 2022 }:31  七軷癃
      No effort, tastes good, filling & affordable ( 7 $ for 25 oz ).

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > You could try, "Totino's Pizza Rolls" ( mini pasties ).
> 
> I'll pass.  Most of what I eat starts with 
> recognizable components from the grocery store. 

I'm eating Pizza Rolls right now; room temperature, uncooked ( by me ).
No effort, tastes good, filling & affordable ( 7 $ for 25 oz ).
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              Köhlmann  tnc6sg$2p6mr$1@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  daaae496-816f-47c0-b76f-112bf564bee8n@googlegroups.com
          rBowman  jvu6svFt0luU3@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.30am.Seattle.2022
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  JkmmL.57739$iS99.44018@fx16.iad
    rBowman  jvvf77F4cifU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.25pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (164) Top; 25.8 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec 14 {  6:31pm, 2022 }: 3  七軵嫧
      "Totino's Pizza Rolls" ( mini pasties ).

Indirectly, You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> I didn't know Uncrustables were a thing. 
> I'll stick with [Butte] pasties, thank you.

You could try, "Totino's Pizza Rolls" ( mini pasties ).
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              HughHuntzinger  daaae496-816f-47c0-b76f-112bf564bee8n@googlegroups.com
            rBowman  jvu6svFt0luU3@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.30am.Seattle.2022
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  JkmmL.57739$iS99.44018@fx16.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--8.20am.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  NmnmL.16897$wfQc.8284@fx43.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--11.33am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (305) Top; 1.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec 14 {  9:04am, 2022 }:46^(-5)  七軳種
      Searching for "pizza" on Amazon Fresh is a riot.

DFS wrote:
> Liberte is the best yogurt; Yoplait is 2nd best.

Agreed.  You're lucky to have it !

Amazon Fresh now offers _1_ Liberte item ( a 5.5 oz cup );
last time I checked, there were none;
it's twice the price of Yoplait & sold out.

As it stands, Uncrustables + Yoplait cost me 15 $/day;
465 $/month ( too much for me ).

Today, I'm going to thinly spread 1 lb of hamburger ( chopped up )
on a baking sheet at 400°F for 15 minutes in a convection oven.

Then I'll embed a large bowl with broken pieces of 
"white bread" ( thich cut "Brioche", "Nature's Own" ) &
pour on the lightly charred hamburger ( & grease ) over the top.

Searching for "pizza" on Amazon Fresh is a riot; 
95% of the products are sold out;
only the worst of the worst remain.
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              ¿Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF6CC122690182322222@88.198.57.247
            Köhlmann  tnc6sg$2p6mr$1@dont-email.me
          HughHuntzinger  daaae496-816f-47c0-b76f-112bf564bee8n@googlegroups.com
        rBowman  jvu6svFt0luU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.30am.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  JkmmL.57739$iS99.44018@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--8.20am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (304) Top; 18.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec 14 {  7:54am, 2022 }:18^(-5)  七軳榪
      Yoplait yogurt (strawberry).

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > It takes me less than a day to consume a 11 $, 20 oz box of uncrustables.
> 
> Eat anything healthy to offset it?

Yes, I wash it down with a quart of Yoplait yogurt (strawberry).
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          ¿Lustern¦lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF6CC122690182322222@88.198.57.247
        Köhlmann  tnc6sg$2p6mr$1@dont-email.me
      HughHuntzinger  daaae496-816f-47c0-b76f-112bf564bee8n@googlegroups.com
    rBowman  jvu6svFt0luU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.30am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ? 1  (162) Top; 7.8 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec 14 {  7:02am, 2022 }:56  ???
      11 $, 20 oz box of uncrustables.

Re: The lack of cow tails & hooves; rBowman wrote:
> At least i can still get Rotkohl [ red cabbage ].

It takes me less than a day to consume a 11 $, 20 oz box of uncrustables.
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              ArindamBanerjee  7e151a61-7de0-4adf-9b1f-4112c3a872bcn@googlegroups.com
            MikeMoroney  tmsrhh$15am$1@gioia.aioe.org
          ArindamBanerjee  6c29b529-8277-4e6f-8ba8-4aecf69f6b34n@googlegroups.com
        MikeMoroney  tn296k$8n9$1@gioia.aioe.org
      ArindamBanerjee  06ca4894-9984-4044-a998-75048e87f1d6n@googlegroups.com
    MikeMoroney  tn6cnq$d7h$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--5.08am.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1  (103) Top; 7.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 11 {  9:03pm, 2022 }:53^(-5)  七軩戹
      Banerjee is no rocket scientist.

Banerjee is no rocket scientist.
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              HughHuntzinger  53a55105-c2c4-4a73-a6fb-99ddef55a8d2n@googlegroups.com
            rBowman  jvflgfFlth6U3@mid.individual.net
          RonB  tmv0n5$14gl8$1@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  408027bf-9501-4366-9539-3f176d918e64n@googlegroups.com
      rBowman  jvh9i8Ft893U5@mid.individual.net
    HughHuntzinger  2ce8dda0-5d00-4f39-bbc0-7a5f83d92eean@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.9--11.42am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (100) Top; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG,  Dec  9 {  9:50am, 2022 }:38^(PST)  七軟啮
      We are not amused.

Huntzinger:
> “ The use of singular they builds on centuries of usage, appearing in the 
>    work of writers such as Chaucer, Shakespeare, and Jane Austen ”

True, but we are not amused.

In Chinese, plurals are much more complicated.
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              RonB  tmj4vf$3om6r$4@dont-email.me
            Köhlmann  tmkrnf$3v6nd$1@dont-email.me
          soup│soup@broth_com  FSQjL.18$8blb.10@fx01.iad
        RonB  tmqku0$k1g8$1@dont-email.me
      ChrisV  aes1ph57esmb5qsall1118k0s3d1rdh0c1@4ax.com
    ScottDoty  pan$cd0f7$65ee7844$8f6ffa38$af02d96b@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--1.41am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (74) Top; 9.7 Hours, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Dec  7 {  3:43pm, 2022 }:16  七軗锔
      The government shafted RonB; now he's mad.

Indirectly, you (Doty) replied ( to RonB ):
> > > If you believe anything from our WOKE liars in Washington,
> > > then your gullibility quotient pegs the meter.
> 
> This is the "argument from incredulity" 
> that also plagues creationists' arguments.

The government shafted RonB; now he's mad.
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              RonB  tmj4vf$3om6r$4@dont-email.me
            Köhlmann  tmkrnf$3v6nd$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--0.31pm.Seattle.2022
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  pKPjL.16$8blb.13@fx01.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--11.01pm.Seattle.2022
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  Ik2kL.13276$iU59.5218@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--8.06am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (35)  OK; 3 Secs, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Dec  7 {  7:30am, 2022 }:48  七軖玨
      Everyone just loves each other & gets along (not).

Max:
> :P So far: 140k from Russia [to Serbia]; 20k from Ukraine; 5k from Belorusia.
> [ Apparently, Serbia is their promised land, :P, Who knew ?! ]

The EU limits incoming Russian nationals; 
so they mostly go from Tajikistan to Kazakhstan, 
or Uzbekistan to: Georgia, Azerbaijan & Armenia.

Over a 7 day period, ~100 thousand Russians fled to Kazakhstan;
landlords evict locals when Russians pay double the rent. 

Turkey, Armenia & Russia make a fine salad;
everyone just loves each other & gets along (not).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--2.23am.Seattle.2022
            rBowman  jv3pnpFraeoU2@mid.individual.net
          RonB  tmj4vf$3om6r$4@dont-email.me
        Köhlmann  tmkrnf$3v6nd$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--0.31pm.Seattle.2022
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  pKPjL.16$8blb.13@fx01.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--11.01pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (34) ify; 7.2 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Dec  6 {  2:54pm, 2022 }:13  七軓耕
      Favelas, but worse.

Max:
> More then 100k Russians moved to Belgrade so far :p
> They started "Russian Democratic Society" :P

If they succeed, ha ha, we (Seattle) would be interested.

We've massive tent cities ( favelas, but worse );
Grand Theft Auto, face-to-face.

41°F (5°C) tonight, midnight; light snow expected Friday.

Already, California's Sierra Nevada has 2x the expected snowpack;
much more is coming this weekend.
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              RonB  tmfsma$3cjds$4@dont-email.me
            Köhlmann  tmgn4a$3eqbq$1@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--2.23am.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  jv3pnpFraeoU2@mid.individual.net
      RonB  tmj4vf$3om6r$4@dont-email.me
    Köhlmann  tmkrnf$3v6nd$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--0.31pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (11) Top; 6.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  5 {  5:29am, 2022 }:19^(1)  七軍阯
      Japan has the most powerful passport, China not so much.

You (Köhlmann) replied ( to RonB ):
> > For eight years the illegal, bought and paid for (by the U.S.) coup
> > government of Ukraine murdered their own citizens in the Donbass
> > because they spoke Russian. 
> 
> NOTHING russian officials say is worth anything. And you are stupid 
> enough to believe their shit. And you are a piece of shit because you 
> chose to ignore russian war crimes. And all just because you are a 
> stupid nazi who likes russian nazis

RonB just hates America.

He'd join China, if he could get over the Great Wall;
or Russia, if he could get over the Iron Curtain, into the gulag.

Japan has the most powerful passport, China not so much.
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              rBowman  jv2ktfFm4baU2@mid.individual.net
            JoelCrump  hf7oohlj6031nftfi1rbbps87f9gvkkms4@4ax.com
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  Ek6jL.55483$i761.54645@fx17.iad
        rBowman  jv4b27Fu0taU2@mid.individual.net
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  pT9jL.56063$i761.47468@fx17.iad
    rBowman  jv4qlvF1freU6@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--5.16pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (165) Top; 58 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec  4 {  4:01pm, 2022 }: 4  七軋糀
      I never see Windows' Start menu.

rBowman:
> The taskbar is no big deal but the start menu is a pain in the butt.
> There must have been a dozen useless things I had to 
> remove before replacing VS, Code, SSMS, QGIS, and pgAdmin. 

I never see Windows' The Start menu; it's not on my TaskBar; see:

    Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG

Occasionally, I get a glimpse of the desktop, but it's 100% blank, black.
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              Köhlmann  tmgn4a$3eqbq$1@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--2.23am.Seattle.2022
          rBowman  jv3pnpFraeoU2@mid.individual.net
        RonB  tmj4vf$3om6r$4@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--3.29pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  jv4q31F1freU5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--5.07pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (165) Top; 1.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec  4 {  3:50pm, 2022 }:57  七軋穡
      If you think you can keep "your" money...

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > Are you putting your money where your mouth is ?!
> > How much have you donated to ISIS and/or Russia lately, RonB ?
> 
> How much of my money has Joe donated to the zhid ?

To the "Jew" (zhid) ?

If you think you can keep "your" money... you're deluded. 

For me, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year
(1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)).

Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle,
where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month.
Early 2023, rent&utilities will cost me ~1000 $/month.

Although my living conditions have improved, I can't pay less.
Two can live as cheaply as one, if they don't kill each other, _if_.

Globally, central bankers print their way out of debt;
there's a 0.000 % chance that anything else will happen.
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              rBowman  juur8rF48o6U1@mid.individual.net
            RonB  tmftn0$3cjds$5@dont-email.me
          ChrisV  gjlnohlb7u5j9loj7bm3ukqguojnnfc7d8@4ax.com
        Köhlmann  tmgn84$3eqbq$2@dont-email.me
      ¿Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF62C0917AD2C2322222@88.198.57.247
    RonB  tmj5ig$3om6r$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--4.57pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (44) Top; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  4 {  2:05pm, 2022 }: 4  七軋憐
      Japan, not China, has the strongest passport.

RonB imagines:
> Too many countries, worldwide, are isolating the U.S. and the "West."   

Who's "isolating" The West ?!
Japan, not China, has the strongest passport.

I know you hate America but, get serious,
no one is more isolated than China & Russia.

Have you heard of the Great Wall of China, or the Iron Curtain ?!
How easy is it to get into, or out of, such gulags ?

China happily locks it's slaves in their houses,
so they can't escape when the building burns down.

Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, appreciates what it does for his bottom line.
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              Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  uAkiL.6699$jXi9.5028@fx34.iad
            RonB  tmctqh$331ir$2@dont-email.me
          Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  JAoiL.7706$1CA4.5700@fx02.iad
        RonB  tmfsma$3cjds$4@dont-email.me
      Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  6%PiL.6135$GWK4.4061@fx04.iad
    RonB  tmj4k0$3om6r$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--4.41pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (44) Top; 1.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  4 {  1:48pm, 2022 }:48  七軋巀
      Putin might carpet bomb Serbia too.

You (RonB) replied ( to Max ):
> > Ukraine is big country.  Add to that NATO support...
> 
> Without NATO's weapons and advice to Zelensky, 
> to fight to the last Ukrainian,
> he wouldn't have needed [ such a big war ].

Putin might carpet bomb Serbia too, just for the shits & grins.

Dictators express their "love" one bomb at a time.
Putin "loves" Ukraine more than all other dictators combined.

If you _win_ the bloody war, you get the clean, natural gas;
if you lose, you get the dirty wood|coal.
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              JoelCrump  vs3ooh18tpqkh7c3375anv04dtbv0luar5@4ax.com
            rBowman  jv2ktfFm4baU2@mid.individual.net
          JoelCrump  hf7oohlj6031nftfi1rbbps87f9gvkkms4@4ax.com
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  Ek6jL.55483$i761.54645@fx17.iad
      rBowman  jv4b27Fu0taU2@mid.individual.net
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  pT9jL.56063$i761.47468@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--4.31pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (344) Top; 4.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  4 {  3:16pm, 2022 }:38^(-5)  七軋牖
      My 62 dpi 32" (UHD) monitor.

DFS:
> I have an ultra-widescreen monitor, and center Taskbar is much better.

I finally gave in & made Win10 zoom 225%;
now my _TaskBar_ is actually readable; see:  Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG

It's as if I've a 62 dpi screen ( but with _Smooth_ fonts ),
everything is in enlarged.   140 dpi is the actual resolution.

Images in Firefox appear twice as large, which is nice.

I turned it off for several apps ( via "compatibility" settings ),
so they don't get too large.

My DOS console now has 51 rows, 174 columns, 
12pt "Comic Code" ( thin, monospaced, 35 $ ) font.
Ordinary text uses the "Comic Sans MS" font.

> You literally have to turn your head a little to read 
> the far sides of the screen - it's uncomfortable.

That's why I dropped down to 32" (UHD) monitor, nothing larger.
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              Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  JAoiL.7706$1CA4.5700@fx02.iad
            RonB  tmfsma$3cjds$4@dont-email.me
          Köhlmann  tmgn4a$3eqbq$1@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--2.23am.Seattle.2022
      rBowman  jv3pnpFraeoU2@mid.individual.net
    RonB  tmj4vf$3om6r$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--3.29pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  (44) Top; 1.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  4 {  1:54pm, 2022 }:55  七軋弯
      The girl deserved it, right ?

Indirectly, you (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > > The world munches popcorn as Ukraine gets raped.
> >
> > No, I prefer mixed dry roasted nuts. 
> 
> Porky and the current president (who's major achievement is playing the 
> piano with his dick) were/are well paid by their masters in Washington. 
> They could care less about turning their citizens into cannon fodder.

The girl deserved it, right ?
Or this just a case of: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend.".

Are you putting your money where your mouth is ?!
How much have you donated to ISIS and/or Russia lately, RonB ?
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              RonB  tmctqh$331ir$2@dont-email.me
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  JAoiL.7706$1CA4.5700@fx02.iad
          RonB  tmfsma$3cjds$4@dont-email.me
        Köhlmann  tmgn4a$3eqbq$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--2.23am.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  jv3pnpFraeoU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--8.19am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (161) Top; 1.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec  4 {  6:38am, 2022 }:49  七軉鳹
      Mini peanut butter cups.

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > The world munches popcorn as Ukraine gets raped.
> 
> No, I prefer mixed dry roasted nuts.

Here, it's mini peanut butter cups. 
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              rBowman  jut7ffFr89dU1@mid.individual.net
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  uAkiL.6699$jXi9.5028@fx34.iad
          RonB  tmctqh$331ir$2@dont-email.me
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  JAoiL.7706$1CA4.5700@fx02.iad
      RonB  tmfsma$3cjds$4@dont-email.me
    Köhlmann  tmgn4a$3eqbq$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--2.23am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (8) Top; 10.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  3 {  3:46pm, 2022 }:18^(1)  七軇濊
      The world munches popcorn as Ukraine gets raped.

Köhlmann:
> Russian military is built for war crimes

The world munches popcorn as Ukraine gets raped.
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              Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  YBkiL.6700$jXi9.3201@fx34.iad
            RonB  tmcvgk$331ir$5@dont-email.me
          Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  1QoiL.5642$GWK4.1920@fx04.iad
        ChrisV  q4tkohp8ake3b5h0uq02im08tuq2ma3u24@4ax.com
      Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  WSuiL.2644$bvs9.2425@fx38.iad
    rBowman  juvqrdF8koiU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--10.42pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (158) Top; 3.7 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Dec  2 {  6:33pm, 2022 }:18  七軃赮
      Everyone is innocent, including the freak killing the freak killing the freak.

You (rBowman) replied ( to Max ):
> > I read propaganda one side, propaganda other side.  Where can we read truth ?
> 
> [ Rome's Pontius Pilate said Jesus was innocent ] John 18:38

Everyone is innocent, including the freak killing the freak killing the freak.

Dictators express their "love" one bomb at a time.
Putin "loves" Ukraine more than all other dictators combined.

If you _win_ the bloody war, you get the clean, natural gas;
if you lose, you get the dirty wood|coal.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--10.29pm.Seattle.2022
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  EA3iL.33349$i761.7673@fx17.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--11.42am.Seattle.2022
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  vQ7iL.18553$MGw.548@fx16.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--9.41pm.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  aAoiL.84986$Q0m1.27011@fx18.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--7.30am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (344) Top; 2.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  2 {  7:11am, 2022 }: 1^(-5)  七軁醅
      DFS, the self-proclaimed guru.

Your (DFS') views on coding are incorrect; you don't focus on results;
instead, you focus on the source code, like an idiot.

You tell us that your insane views are held by everyone;
but I know that you're wrong.

> > Your "DFS.COM" email address is a DutyFreeStore.
> 
> It used to be a UK-based furniture store, as I recall.

Either way, well done, you self-proclaimed guru;
it speaks volumes about you.
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  c3WhL.3006$Use.1583@fx15.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--10.29pm.Seattle.2022
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  EA3iL.33349$i761.7673@fx17.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--11.42am.Seattle.2022
      Köhlmann  tmcroc$32vaa$1@dont-email.me
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  0yoiL.42957$i761.40345@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--7.21am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (344) Top; 4.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  2 {  7:08am, 2022 }:43^(-5)  七軁郻
      My focus is on what the app _does.

DFS wrote:
> Relf said he was the "best C coder on cola".

Again, my opinion is just that, my opinion.
I never claimed that you jokers agreed with me.

My focus is on what the app _does; not on how it was written.

" Ye and Alex Jones Break the Internet in MUST SEE New Interview "
https://banned.video/watch?id=63891b1317ee1975b0dbf7e1
2.66 Gigs, almost 3 hours.
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              RonB  tma10n$2pf66$3@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--5.08am.Seattle.2022
          Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  3fbiL.84952$Q0m1.17086@fx18.iad
        rBowman  jut7ffFr89dU1@mid.individual.net
      Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  uAkiL.6699$jXi9.5028@fx34.iad
    RonB  tmctqh$331ir$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--6.03am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (37) Top; 32.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  2 {  5:16am, 2022 }: 1  七軁皑
      RonB, How much have you donated to ISIS lately ?

RonB wrote:
> We're currently using our military forces to protect the stealing of oil in Syria.

How much have you donated to ISIS lately, RonB ?

Aren't you putting your money where your mouth is ?!
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--4.31am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Does your browser look/act like this ?

Does your browser look/act like this ?:

    Firefox Developer Edition v108
    Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT  Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT 
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--8.06pm.Seattle.2022
            RonB  tma10n$2pf66$3@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--5.08am.Seattle.2022
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  3fbiL.84952$Q0m1.17086@fx18.iad
      rBowman  jut7ffFr89dU1@mid.individual.net
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  uAkiL.6699$jXi9.5028@fx34.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--3.36am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  (18) ify; 20.8 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Dec  2 {  2:38am, 2022 }:18  七軁冚
      "War" such a dirty word.

You (Max) replied ( to rBowman ):
> > [ Officially, ] The US has not declared war
> > [ since it smashed Bulgaria, Hungary & Romania, 1942 ]
> 
> Vietnam? Iraq? Serbia? 

"War" such a dirty word; we don't use it anymore.

Dictators express their "love" one bomb at a time.

Putin "loves" Ukraine more than all other dictators combined.
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        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  4u3iL.23202$sEq1.7376@fx12.iad
      Johnny_LaRue│xxxxxxxx@yyyyyyy_zzz  TJydnZ71pcn4pRT-nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  sxbiL.5613$z6e9.844@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--10.26pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (15) ify; 5 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Dec  1 {  4:20pm, 2022 }:40  七躿擘
      China's forced labor & air pollution.

Max said Apple's " main profit is still iPhone ".

Thanks to China's forced labor & air pollution.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.41pm.Seattle.2022
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  c3WhL.3006$Use.1583@fx15.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--10.29pm.Seattle.2022
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  EA3iL.33349$i761.7673@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--11.42am.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  vQ7iL.18553$MGw.548@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--9.41pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  (343) Top; 9.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  1 {  0:07pm, 2022 }:57^(-5)  七躾箝
      Your "DFS.COM" email address is a DutyFreeStore.

You (DFS) asked me:
> Would you rather panhandle and be homeless than deliver correct code ?

Your idea of "correct code" doesn't pass muster.

Lucky for me, I lost my jobs in the plandemic.
I may, or may not, work again; I don't know.

I've written JavaScript macros and extensions for Firefox Developer Edition v108,
& C# macros and extensions for Visual Studio, Community Edition; see:

    Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT  Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT 
    Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual.Studio.2019.PNG  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
    Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG  Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT
    z1.CPP and z1.HTM ( in "Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP" ).
    
I know enough AI to simulate banks in a community; see:

     Jeff-Relf.Me/2019.ABA.Agreement.PDF

Your "DFS.COM" email address is a DutyFreeStore.
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              rBowman  junsp3F22jiU2@mid.individual.net
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  RHNhL.19528$f9D6.13258@fx09.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.41pm.Seattle.2022
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  c3WhL.3006$Use.1583@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--10.29pm.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  EA3iL.33349$i761.7673@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--11.42am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +Top, 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Dec  1 {  7:17am, 2022 }:57^(-5)  七躽覥
      I wouldn't work for DFS.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > I'm a hard core Visual Studio, Community Edition, user; hard core; see:
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual.Studio.2019.PNG  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
> 
> based on your code formatting, structure and lack of comments,
> we can no longer offer you continued employment.

I wouldn't work for you.
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  fjyhL.22591$Q0m1.16964@fx18.iad
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  anyhL.7444$KVI.6144@fx14.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.45pm.Seattle.2022
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  vIzhL.6967$z011.5259@fx11.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--8.06pm.Seattle.2022
    RonB  tma10n$2pf66$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--5.08am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (39) Top; 2.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  1 {  2:52am, 2022 }: 8  七躼鵘
      Putin will have to send babushkas to the front lines.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > > Serbia is in top ten countries in the world by depopulation.
> >
> > Putin says the worst are leaving, leaving him with the best.
> > China & Russia are transforming into North Korea ( yappy lapdogs ).
> 
> Dream big.

Eventually, Putin will have to send babushkas to the front lines.
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              ChrisV  5pn7oh56kvhbj5rgvc9387pvmh76u9sm4p@4ax.com
            rBowman  juigs9F7r7kU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.33pm.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  juivpeF9llaU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.30pm.Seattle.2022
    RonB  tma0gr$2pf66$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--5.00am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  (39) Top; 2.2 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  1 {  2:43am, 2022 }:39  七躼魛
      Ukraine is trying to take back its natural resources.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > NATO hasn't been able to do anything about it.
> 
> NATO doesn't care. They're using Ukrainians as cannon fodder
> in their war to (attempt to) retake Russia's natural resources.

What makes you think it belongs to Russia ? !

Ukraine is trying to take back its natural resources.
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              JoelCrump  279cohtf7477shfd2d84v9b4j2iooaqcli@4ax.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  GsqhL.661$jHT4.651@fx06.iad
          rBowman  junsp3F22jiU2@mid.individual.net
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  RHNhL.19528$f9D6.13258@fx09.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.41pm.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  c3WhL.3006$Use.1583@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--10.29pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (335) Top; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 30 {  8:27pm, 2022 }:54^(-5)  七躻镊
      My custom (C++) Console.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > Graphics Artists are drawn to GNU distros like kawaii are drawn to shit.
> 
> ha !  You don't have a distro installed anywhere ?  

I'm into (Logitech) mice & custom, virtual keyboards; see:

   Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
   Jeff-Relf.Me/DayMap.PNG

FYI, your "DFS.COM" email address is a DutyFreeStore.

> What editor do you use?  
> On Linux the Geany editor is decent, and there's Visual Studio Code.

I'm a hard core Visual Studio, Community Edition, user; hard core; see:

   Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM

I'm surprised that you don't know that already.
I've written C# macros & extensions for it.

> I envy the Linux FHS ( filesystem hierarchy standard )
> versus the random placement of files on Windows.

I use my own "standard" hierarchy.
More readable for me, less readable for you; just as I like it.

> your C++ code will very likely run much faster on Linux, 
> though as I recall most of what you do is Windows interface stuff.

My applets, on my custom (C++) Console, Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.HTM,
are as fast as they need to be; no more, no less.
I'm all "custom", no "standard".
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.45pm.Seattle.2022
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  vIzhL.6967$z011.5259@fx11.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--8.06pm.Seattle.2022
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  uBChL.4096$MGw.1978@fx16.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--11.59pm.Seattle.2022
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  dfRhL.15546$X8k1.12962@fx13.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--7.47pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  (10) ify; 3.4 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Nov 30 {  2:59pm, 2022 }:21  七躺驉
      Carpet bombing Serbia.

One day, in his dacha, Putin thought to himself:

  How can I get these nasty kids off their cell phones ?

  I know, I'll keep them busy carpet bombing Serbia !
  They'll _love_ that ( or get the sledgehammer ).
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              Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  ObyhL.9291$X8k1.5611@fx13.iad
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  fjyhL.22591$Q0m1.16964@fx18.iad
          Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  anyhL.7444$KVI.6144@fx14.iad
        ChrisV  ctpeoht1ehccd7sj7jjro0n3k96g3h8dra@4ax.com
      JoelCrump  ahqeoh5k03i897a85ho95updp3d5og26ai@4ax.com
    ChrisV  k3kfoh53mlo24inimjke7riml4gr3t3nt7@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.54pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (201)  OK; 4.4 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Nov 30 {  1:58pm, 2022 }:41^(-6)  七躺谑
      Alan Turing killed Alan Turing.

ChrisV wrote:
> bigots like [DFS] effectively killed one of the greatest minds in history,
> Alan Turing.

Alan Turing killed Alan Turing.
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              JoelCrump  477cohle66jb0aj0bua9q7lg01b2b6bpvu@4ax.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bvphL.312541$kmVf.98026@fx15.iad
          JoelCrump  279cohtf7477shfd2d84v9b4j2iooaqcli@4ax.com
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  GsqhL.661$jHT4.651@fx06.iad
      rBowman  junsp3F22jiU2@mid.individual.net
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  RHNhL.19528$f9D6.13258@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.41pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  (331) Top; 7.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 30 { 10:56am, 2022 }:49^(-5)  七躺慱
      Graphics Artists are drawn to GNU distros...

DFS says:
> Most of my daily work/apps are available on Linux too.
> The exception is MS Office, which is a showstopper.
> LibreOffice isn't even a consideration.

Graphics Artists are drawn to GNU distros like kawaii are drawn to shit.
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  fjyhL.22591$Q0m1.16964@fx18.iad
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  anyhL.7444$KVI.6144@fx14.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.45pm.Seattle.2022
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  vIzhL.6967$z011.5259@fx11.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--8.06pm.Seattle.2022
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  uBChL.4096$MGw.1978@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--11.59pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (7) ify; 47.8 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Nov 29 { 10:19pm, 2022 }: 6  七躸叚
      DePopulation.

You (Max) replied ( to me ):
> > Putin says the worst are leaving, leaving him with the best.
> > China & Russia are transforming into North Korea ( yappy lapdogs ).
> 
> Lot of firms from Russia moved to Belgrade with all employees;
> now, rent is twice the price; Ukrainians as well... mainly younger people.

Talk about DePopulation...
How long before Putin puts babushkas on the frontline ?!

In Kyiv, Putin's Prigozhin kidnapped a 55 year old deserter, Yevgenny Nuzhin,
a prisonerCumConscript, & killed him with a sledgehammer.
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  i5yhL.6527$KVI.3803@fx14.iad
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  ObyhL.9291$X8k1.5611@fx13.iad
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  fjyhL.22591$Q0m1.16964@fx18.iad
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  anyhL.7444$KVI.6144@fx14.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.45pm.Seattle.2022
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  vIzhL.6967$z011.5259@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--8.06pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (6) ify; 30.5 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Nov 29 {  7:01pm, 2022 }:47  七躷瞛
      China & Russia are transforming into North Korea ( yappy lapdogs ).

You (Max) replied ( to me ):
> > Serbs should avoid: Euros, Turkish lira, dollars & Russian Rubles.
> 
> [ Serbia's dictator is a NATO puppet, selling us stories :P ]

Five-year-olds tell better, more believable stories.

> Serbia is in top ten countries in the world by depopulation.

Putin says the worst are leaving, leaving him with the best.

China & Russia are transforming into North Korea ( yappy lapdogs ).
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  PdxhL.3$C2m9.1@fx41.iad
            Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  SlxhL.22864$sEq1.7838@fx12.iad
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  i5yhL.6527$KVI.3803@fx14.iad
        Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  ObyhL.9291$X8k1.5611@fx13.iad
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  fjyhL.22591$Q0m1.16964@fx18.iad
    Branimir_Maksimovic│branimir_maksimovic@icloud_com  anyhL.7444$KVI.6144@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.45pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (5) ify; 40.2 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Usenet-News.NET,  Nov 29 {  5:30pm, 2022 }:46  七躷扆
      Serbs won't pay tithes to the mosque.

You (Maksimovic) replied ( to DFS ):
> > Moscow is NE - aim thataway.
> 
> We are against Russia ?! seems so, but our president claims we are not :P

Serbs won't pay tithes to the mosque.

Democracy dead, inflation taxes any who fail to kiss the dictator's ass.

Serbs should avoid: Euros, Turkish lira, dollars & Russian Rubles.

> CNN propagandist is minister after last ellection :P

Same here, see Joe Biden.

> Lesbian is prime minister :P  Imagine that? :P

Black lesbians are unassailable;
being a white male is grounds for termination/cancellation.
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              ChrisV  5pn7oh56kvhbj5rgvc9387pvmh76u9sm4p@4ax.com
            rBowman  juigs9F7r7kU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.33pm.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  juivpeF9llaU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.30pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  juk7l0FfiorU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--6.16pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (139) Top; 8.7 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 28 {  8:58am, 2022 }: 8  七躱蒠
      Paying tithes to the mosque.

rBowman mentioned:
> kosovo-serbs-to-quit-state-jobs-over-license-plate[taxation/regulation]-row

Serbs won't pay tithes to the mosque.

Democracy dead, inflation taxes any who fail to kiss the dictator's ass.
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              ChrisV  cqm6oh9i93f3jrvuv9of8nj015p5h6j86a@4ax.com
            rBowman  juhlhgF33mnU4@mid.individual.net
          ChrisV  5pn7oh56kvhbj5rgvc9387pvmh76u9sm4p@4ax.com
        rBowman  juigs9F7r7kU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.33pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  juivpeF9llaU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.30pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (136) Top; 13.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 27 {  9:37pm, 2022 }:50  七躯褮
      NATO hasn't been able to do anything about it.

rBowman mentioned:
> Satellite-image-shows-Ukraine-total-darkness

& NATO hasn't been able to do anything about it.
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              ChrisV  cup4ohtdd7ns71dbivmkt7qc08b1hc9kkk@4ax.com
            rBowman  jufml9Fp399U1@mid.individual.net
          ChrisV  cqm6oh9i93f3jrvuv9of8nj015p5h6j86a@4ax.com
        rBowman  juhlhgF33mnU4@mid.individual.net
      ChrisV  5pn7oh56kvhbj5rgvc9387pvmh76u9sm4p@4ax.com
    rBowman  juigs9F7r7kU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.33pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (134) Top; 59.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 27 {  5:23pm, 2022 }:21  七躮龉
      No water, no toilet, no electricity, no heat.

rBowman asked:
> [ are we ] surrendering too much autonomy to technocrats ?
> We certainly have several current examples of worshiping 'experts'.

People in Kyiv Ukraine carry their groceries up 20+ floors because
the elevator doesn't work... no water, no toilet, no electricity, no heat.

Their dachas, in the countryside, have a wood, potatoes & well water.
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      ¿$22_an_hour_Dominos_worker│i-need-a-raise@democrats_welfare_com  tln0rq$14sg$1@gioia.aioe.org
    John_Baker│nunya@bizniz_net  55gunhhotsv6ud3272jqncgbp2k4gi0b3e@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--1.45pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 10.7 Hours, F_Agent, Newshosting.COM,  Nov 24 {  2:02am, 2022 }:21^(-5)  七躠伭
      Democracy is dead.

John Baker wrote:
> Inflation is a global problem

Now that democracy is dead, inflation will be a problem for
anyone & everyone who doesn't kiss the dictator's ass properly.
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          Dkjgkgjhsvb│dj@linux_rocks  172a4689f26fbfc5$576$3676085$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
        JoelCrump  slmsnh13m285b35nhc0mi7a1g5b5i27pud@4ax.com
      ChrisV  nf8tnhd7jn22hqs8ba9obs3qkm0o5eaat1@4ax.com
    ChrisV  attunhdt8ta07pso9b92jpid9fg5qubosb@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--1.30pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (194)  OK; 6.8 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Nov 24 {  6:01am, 2022 }:48^(-6)  七躠蝌
      447 $ gets you a 32" 4K 60 Hz IPS monitor.

chrisv wrote:
> Amazon.COM/dp/B09JFPT3QX
> Quite a bit more money, but not a terrible investment, for a pro.

A 1500 $ monitor ?! you'd never buy that for yourself.

447 $ gets you a 32" 4K 60 Hz IPS monitor:  Amazon.COM/dp/B08FQ42MN1
Ships from & Sold by: Amazon.COM
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        ¿$22_an_hour_Dominos_worker│i-need-a-raise@democrats_welfare_com  tln0rq$14sg$1@gioia.aioe.org
      ¿Governor_Swill│governor_swill@gmail_com  44216b49670ab702fa47496a49db4ad6@dizum.com
    HughHuntzinger  dc648ec7-ba34-4204-baa4-4762a01157dbn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--1.01pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (99) Top; 9.4 Hours, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov 24 {  3:20am, 2022 }:22^(PST)  七躠慶
      Increased Profits.

Huntzinger wrote:
> any pain at the pump is due to increased profits, not the base goods.

Sure, that's believable, just look at all the "profits" Bankman-Fried got;
enough to give his friends 300 million $ worth of (Bahamas) real estate.
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    Dkjgkgjhsvb│dj@linux_rocks  172a4689f26fbfc5$576$3676085$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--10.02pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 5.8 Hours, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Nov 23 {  9:22am, 2022 }:50^(0)  七躝嫪
      Amazon now sells 32" 4k OLED monitors; 3500 $, no reviews.

Amazon now sells 32" 4k OLED monitors; 3500 $, no reviews.
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              JoelCrump  edsnnhtp4lm3vfje0rhj008q4436uchefe@4ax.com
            ChrisV  260onhtll7oilsnm96gm4hl5o9o6s9uop6@4ax.com
          JoelCrump  ha2onh5msh2bguunbhm0u75d4nrfer092n@4ax.com
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  tgVeL.1456$5S8f.642@fx03.iad
      JoelCrump  b78onhludgi696sk37rmcbm4cm9o3rud6v@4ax.com
    ChrisV  olionh92u776cacel8fki2d34gtvb43a1o@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--8.38pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (189)  OK; 13.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Nov 21 {  8:15pm, 2022 }:27^(-6)  七躖軟
      All but the following warnings are "on"...

ChrisV quotes me:
> > >     " Testing is how you know if the  code works or not,
> > >       not compile-time warnings. " -  Jeff Relf

I set " warnings as errors "; all but the following warnings are "on":

  c4100: unreferenced parameter.     Useful when debugging.
  c4101: unreferenced local variable.   OK when debugging.
  c4127 conditional expression is constant.

    while(1) is OK.
    "if ( ComplexExpression, 1 )" is a good debugging technique.

   more at:  Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
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      Lester_Thorpe│lt@linux_rocks  17299c68cc92d287$9256$3517746$565a1556@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  stPeL.22647$cVTf.4000@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--0.00pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (345) Top; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 21 { 10:30am, 2022 }:49^(-5)  七躕埙
      Optimizing the "Longest Common SubSequence" algorithm.

You (DFS) replied ( to Lester Thorpe ):
> > recursion eats through the stack like a red neck yokel
> > at White Castle.  Soon there is destruction.
> 
> Only at the hands of a crappy programmer like 
> you would recursion cause 'destruction'.

Thorpe is correct, you are wrong.

When comparing text files, the (notional) algorithm is recursive 
but it can't be implemented that way... too slow, will crash;
instead, a table is created/used.

Optimizing the "Longest Common SubSequence" algorithm:
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/space-optimized-solution-lcs/

From "z1.CPP" in "Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP":

#define  Table( i, j )  _Table[ ( j ) * Rows + i ]
#define  aMatch  ( F = BB[ R - 1 ], _F = _BB[ C - 1 ], F[-1] == _F[-1] && Eq( F, _F ) )
#define  StoreRowColumn  ( Inc( Ln ) = LnP( R - 1 << 32 | C - 1 ), R--, C-- )
#define  PrnPlain( _Plain )  ( Plain = _Plain, Plain == WasPlain ? 0 : ( WasPlain = Plain, D += Str( D, L"%c", Plain ? ChText : ColorCh ) ) )
#define  PrnWord( P )  ( B2 = P, D += Str( D, L"%*s%s", B2[-1], L"", B2 ) )

LnP  F, _F ;  wchar  DiffDir[444];  int  DiffLineLen, Ignore_Head, IgnrNums ;  const int mxTokens = 222 ;

_FileCmp( LnA BB, LnA _BB, LnA PP, LnA _PP, LnT &Ln ) { int Rows = PP - BB + 1, Cols = _PP - _BB + 1 ;  
  u64 R = Rows, C = Cols ;  pInt _Table = (pInt)MallocTmp( R * C * szInt );
  { LoopR( Rows ) {
      LoopC( Cols ) {  if ( !R || !C ) {  Table( R, C ) = 0 ;  continue ;  }
        if ( aMatch )  Table( R, C ) = Table( R - 1, C - 1 ) + 1 ;
        else Table( R, C ) = ER( Table( R, C - 1 ), Table( R - 1, C ) );  } } }

  Zero( Ln ), StoreRowColumn;  while ( R > 0 && C > 0 ) if ( aMatch ) StoreRowColumn ; else Table( R, C - 1 ) > Table( R - 1, C ) ? C-- : R-- ;  }
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            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  Yi9eL.5969$kmVf.772@fx15.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--11.28am.Seattle.2022
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  AgzeL.7480$w7Q2.298@fx37.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.39pm.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  lGLeL.6382$8875.1084@fx13.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--9.11am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (344) Top; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 21 {  6:11am, 2022 }:28^(-5)  七躔洐
      F*ck "maintainable code", rewrite the app.

DFS quotes me:
> > Ch == *L"🗲"

Ch == L'🗲'   //  L'🗲' is a Unicode (UTF-16) character.

> > Sh( L"⮞%s⮜", B );

printf( L"⮞%s⮜", B );   //  L"⮞%s⮜" is a Unicode (UTF-16) string.

DFS:
> kooky, undocumented, and impenetrable is no way to code.

The apps I wrote for others is ultra documented.
F*ck "maintainable code", rewrite the app.

> my python script to execute any SQL/DDL/DML statement against a database.
> https://imgur.com/vVJ3MVK
> What does your C++ version look like ?

Instead of databases, I use .TXT|HTML files; see:

Jeff-Relf.Me/Cola_Regs.HTM
Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT

Again, z1 appends results/errors to L"╲╱.TXT"; for example:
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvo9stCkbyA
//      " Get to Know Sheng Wang in Eight Jokes "
//    ╳        29.41 Megs,    11.44 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  5 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQHic8wrGk
//      " Elizabeth Warren gets fact-checked by Elon Musk’s Twitter "
//    ╳        19.99 Megs,    13.91 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  3 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzhHdjdwRxE
//      " New IBM Computer Chip Explained "
//    ╳        43.77 Megs,    13.77 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  5 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I99Qgb4mE5I
//      " Why build a diving board twice the Olympic height？ "
//    ╳        53.54 Megs,    12.14 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  6 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5FYudTA5jg
//      " Liberated Ukrainians describe life under Russian occupation ｜ DW News "
//    ╳        67.72 Megs,    10.07 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  8 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Sjrl8zAeA
//      " Russian influencer deported from Germany for targeting Ukrainians "
//    ╳        15.71 Megs,    10.61 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  2 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mh3FoXjIvaY
//      " I am not in love with my wife anymore "
//    ╳        15.07 Megs,     9.63 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  3 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uGsgd0ZAUao
//      " Teachers, what's a smart ass response you've heard from your students？ "
//    ╳         8.03 Megs,     7.49 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  3 Secs
//  ■
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--11.28am.Seattle.2022
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  AgzeL.7480$w7Q2.298@fx37.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.39pm.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  ju00c3Fc9mhU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--5.09pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  ju06g5FdpipU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--7.46pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (121) Top; 1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 20 {  6:35pm, 2022 }:50  七躒渆
      When I hit a roadblock, I "sleep on it".

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > wchar_t  street[4] = {};  Relf_Read( street ), *street && Relf_Add( street );
> 
> A programmer working for me who wrote dense, 
> unmaintainable code would be looking for a new job.

Better to rewrite apps then to toy with "maintainable code".
 
> I hear Musk may be hiring programmers.

I don't agree with Musk's 80 hours/week attitude.
When I hit a roadblock, I "sleep on it".
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            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  Yi9eL.5969$kmVf.772@fx15.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--11.28am.Seattle.2022
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  AgzeL.7480$w7Q2.298@fx37.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.39pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  ju00c3Fc9mhU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--5.09pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (120) Top; 3.6 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov 20 {  4:51pm, 2022 }:15  七躒喃
      Python wastes whitespace.

rBowman:
> while (r.Read()):
>     string street = $"{r[0]} {r[1]} {r[2]} {r[3]}"
>     if (r[0] != null):
>         streetNames.Add(street)

wchar_t  street[4] = {};  Relf_Read( street ), *street && Relf_Add( street );
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        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  Yi9eL.5969$kmVf.772@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--11.28am.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  AgzeL.7480$w7Q2.298@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.39pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (343) Top; 8.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 20 {  4:04pm, 2022 }:50^(-5)  七躑鲢
      Python wastes whitespace.

DFS:
> Other than requiring performance characteristics that python can't reach 
> (versus some compiled languages), how can anyone hate Python?

Python wastes whitespace.

I modified a Firefox extension called "open IE";
it allows me to pass a URL to "z1.EXE" ( my console, Jeff-Relf.Me/z1.ZIP ).
I'm using the "Developer" version of Firefox.

z1 appends results/errors to L"╲╱.TXT"; for example:

//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dpxxhJtqdn8
//      " the wife caught her husband gamble with their rent money "
//    ╳         8.69 Megs,     8.17 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  3 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVIelVa8eI
//      " FTX’s Collapse Is FAR WORSE Than You Think "
//    ╳       144.90 Megs,    11.79 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  14 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vDG2254Vj3c
//      " When Parents SPELL In Front Of Kids #shorts "
//    ╳        10.62 Megs,     5.41 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  4 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGIWcK2aSDg
//      " The Perfect Synthetic Diamond "
//    ╳        29.85 Megs,     7.29 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  6 Secs
//  ■
//  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGMyaES1kDI
//      " Timeline 1978 - The Blizzard of '78, Keith Moon and Scared Straight "
//    ╳       230.67 Megs,     9.94 MegaBytes/Sec.  Subs.
//  25 Secs
//  ■

int __stdcall  gBeast( HWND w, i64 C2 ) { GetClassName( w, _T, sz_T ) && Eq( _T, L"MozillaWindowClass" ) && ( TheBeast = w );  return 1 ;  }

GetVideo()  {  int  Dur, rv, Noted, ListFormats, DL, EoB, EoStream, HavFileNam, Told ;  double  Start = UpSecs ;
  LnP  Size, Megs, Speed, PerSec, Hrs, c：, b, B, P = fnVid, E, Command_Line = _T ;  wchar  Ch, vtt[444];  
  SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES Inherit = { sizeof( SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES ) };

  ClearScreen, Inherit.bInheritHandle = 1 ;  
  if ( TheBeast = 0, OneNDone && EnumWindows( gBeast, 0 ), TheBeast ) SetForegroundWindow( TheBeast );
  LoopP( WhiteCh || Ch == '<' );  if ( !*P ) {   Sh( L"  ⁉  ⛏  ＮＵＬ Video URL." );  goto EoStream ;  }
  fnVid = B = P, E = &Loc( '&', fnVid );   LoopBacP( WhiteCh || Ch == '>' );  P[1] = 0 ; 

  ListFormats = rClicked && Loc( L" -f", gVideo ), ListFormats ? P_Find[2] = 'F', P_Find[3] = 0 : 0 ;
  StartReport, Sh( L"%s", fnVid ), Str( Command_Line, L"%s  %s", gVideo, fnVid ), ListFormats ? P_Find[2] = 'f', P_Find[3] = 32 : 0 ;

  PROCESS_INFORMATION  Stat = {};  STARTUPINFO  SU ={ sizeof( STARTUPINFO ) };
  SU.dwFlags = STARTF_USESTDHANDLES | STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW, SU.wShowWindow = SW_HIDE ;
  static  HANDLE  r, w ;
  CreatePipe( &r, &w, &Inherit, 0 ), SetHandleInformation( r, HANDLE_FLAG_INHERIT, 0 );
  SU.hStdOutput = SU.hStdError = w, SU.hStdInput = GetStdHandle( STD_INPUT_HANDLE ) ;
  if ( !CreateProcess( 0, Command_Line, 0,0,1,0,0,0, &SU , &Stat ) ) {
     Sh( L"[ %s ] failed to run.", Command_Line );  CloseHandle( SU.hStdOutput );   goto  EoStream ;  }
  Game = PipeIO,  CloseHandle( w ), Speed = PerSec = 0, *vtt = EoStream = HavFileNam = Told = Noted = 0 ;
  while ( Nap(), Game == PipeIO && !EoStream 
  && ( _Sz = 0, _B = _LnP( _B_Sh ), EoStream = !ReadFile( r, _B, mxBytesSh, (ulong *)&_Sz, 0 ), !EoStream ) ) {
    EoB = _B[ _Sz ] = 0, P = _T, MultiByteToWideChar( CP_UTF8, 0, __LnP( _B ), -1, _T, sz_T );  LoopP( Ch && Ch <= 32 );  E = P ;   
    while( !EoB && ( B = E, *B ) )  {  DL = 0, Loc( i0, B ), !LocCh && ( EoB = 1 );
      P = P_Find ;  LoopP( Ch && Ch <= 32 );  EoB = !Ch, E = P, *P_Find = 0 ;
      //  Sh( L"⮞%s⮜", B );
      !Told && Loc( L" has already been downloaded", B ) && ( Told = 1, Sh( L"Já Downloaded" ) );

      !HavFileNam && Loc( L"C:\\__\\mp4\\", B ) 
      && ( c： = P_Find, HavFileNam = 1, b = c： + LenPat, Loc( L" -- ", b ) = 0, Sh( L"    \" %s \"", b ), *P_Find = LocCh,
           b = P_Find + LenPat, Loc( '.', b ) = 0, Str( vtt, L"%s.en.VTT", c： ), *P_Find = LocCh );

      if ( *B == 32 || EqN( B, L"[http", 5 ) || EqN( B, L"Deleting ", 9 ) || EqN( B, L"WARNING: ", 9 )
      || EqN( B, L"[twitter", 8 ) || EqN( B, L"[youtube", 8 ) || EqN( B, L"[PornHub", 8 ) || EqN( B, L"[hlsnative", 10 ) 
      || EqN( B, L"[info] ", 7 ) || EqN( B, L"[EmbedSubtitle] ", 16 ) || EqN( B, L"[dashsegments] ", 15 ) 
      || EqN( B, L"[FixupM3u8] Fixing ", 19 ) || EqN( B, L"[VideoConvertor] Not converting ", 32 )
      || EqN( B, L"Active code page: ", 18 ) || EqN( B, L"DeprecationWarning: ", 20 ) || EqN( B, L"[Merger] ", 9 ) 
      || EqN( B, L"[download] ", 11 ) && ( DL = 1, !AtoI( B + 11 ) ) )  continue ;
                      
      if ( !DL ) {  *B == '[' && Loc( ']', B ) && EqN( B, *Ln.PP, P_Find - B ) && Ln.PP--, Sh( L"%s", B );  continue ;  }    

      if ( EqN( B, L"[download] 100% of ", 19 ) && ( Size = B + 19, Loc( L" in ", B ) ) ) {  //  [download] 100% of 172.49MiB in 00:25
        P = P_Find + LenPat, Loc( L" ", P + 3 ) = 0 ;    LoopP( Ch == 32 || Ch == '0' );  Hrs = P ;
        if ( Megs = Loc( L"MiB", B ) ? L"Megs" : Loc( L"KiB", B ) ? L"   K" : Loc( L"GiB", B ) ? L"Gigs" : L"", !*Megs )  continue ;

        *P_Find = 0, Ch = **Ln.PP, Ch == *L"🗲" && Ln.PP-- ; 
        Speed ? Sh( L"  ╳     %8s %s,  %s%s", Size, Megs, Speed, !Noted && *vtt ? ( Noted = 1, L"  Subs." ) : L"" )
              : Sh( L"🗲   %8s %s", Size, Megs );        continue ;  }

                           //  [download]  20.9% of 172.49MiB at  6.47MiB/s ETA 01:00:21
      if ( !Loc( L" ETA ", B ) ) continue ;  P = P_Find + LenPat, Loc( L" ", P + 3 ) = 0 ;  LoopP( Ch == 32 || Ch == '0' );  Hrs = P ;
      if ( !Loc( L" at ",  B ) ) continue ;  Speed = 0, b = P_Find + LenPat ;
      if ( PerSec = Loc( L"MiB", b ) ? L"Mega" : Loc( L"KiB", b ) ? L"Kila" : Loc( L"GiB", b ) ? L"Giga" : L"", !*PerSec )  continue ;
      *P_Find = 0, **Ln.PP == *L"🗲" && Ln.PP--, rv = Str( _T, L"🗲 %5s,  ", Hrs ), Sh( L"%s%6s %sBytes/Sec.", _T, b, PerSec );
      Speed = *Ln.PP + rv ;  } }

    Dur = UpSecs - Start, Dur < 90 ? Sh( L"%d Secs", Dur ) : Sh( L"%d Mins, %d Secs", Dur/60, Dur%60 ), Game = 0,  CloseHandle( Stat.hProcess ), CloseHandle( Stat.hThread );

    EoStream:    CloseHandle( r ), Sh( Sep ), MsgOnTop = 1, SaveShowReport( L"╲╱" ), *vtt && _wunlink( vtt );
    OneNDone && WinProc( Win, WM_SYSCOMMAND, SC_CLOSE, 0 );  }
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    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  Yi9eL.5969$kmVf.772@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--11.28am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (338) Top; 37.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 19 { 10:32am, 2022 }:25^(-5)  七躌霹
      YT-DLP  -f [ext=mp4]

DFS:
> To download YouTube videos, use the excellent python app 'yt-dlp'
> yt-dlp --help     Nice piece of python code !

As much as I hate Python, I agree with you here.
Often, qBitTorrant's (Python) search feature is best; no need for website !

DOS> YT-DLP  -f [ext=mp4]  -o "C:/__/%(title).99s -- %(id)s  .%(ext)s"  \
  --no-mtime  --encoding UTF8  --write-sub  --write-auto-sub  --embed-subs  \
  --sub-lang en  --cookies /__/EXEs/Shell/Cookies.TXT

Most videos download in a few seconds ( 118 MegaBits/Sec down, 24 up ).

When browsing YouTube ( & some other sites ),
"right-click download" is all I have to do, 
thanks to a Firefox extension & z1.EXE ( both written by me ).
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            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  cxfdL.8269$%SC9.4657@fx37.iad
          ScottDoty  pan$420d8$76cf8af9$20a6c3c7$f2c71a9d@cultnix.org
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZIPdL.2295$Ayma.122@fx09.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--10.40am.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  QcRdL.108$fqL2.96@fx42.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--0.34pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (339) Top; 13.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 18 { 11:40am, 2022 }:33^(-5)  七躈鶱
      Case Insensitive Linux distros.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > Make WSL's file system (mostly) case insensitive, if possible.
> 
> Probably the WSL distro maker would have to use this feature before bundling the WSL distro:
> https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2020/08/27/using-the-linux-kernel-case-insensitive-feature-in-ext4/

Googling "Case Insensitive Linux distros" doesn't show any distros.

> > Use NTFS exclusively, if possible.
> 
> You - the user - have no choice over the filesystem used when installing 
> a WSL distro.  The WSL distro maker decides that when building the 
> distro package, and so far all that I've checked are built with ext4.

Not good.
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        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  cxfdL.8269$%SC9.4657@fx37.iad
      ScottDoty  pan$420d8$76cf8af9$20a6c3c7$f2c71a9d@cultnix.org
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZIPdL.2295$Ayma.122@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--10.40am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  (338) Top; 14.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov 18 {  9:58am, 2022 }:18^(-5)  七躈薺
      Make WSL's file system (mostly) case insensitive, if possible.

Use NTFS exclusively, if possible.
 
Make WSL's file system (mostly) case insensitive, if possible.
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              Schadenfreude  hl0tmh9uopvpeqre0m6nofoe86aemist06@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  97f73dbc-4230-463b-8e86-81f226614b62n@googlegroups.com
          ¿Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_com  chine.bleu-103F6A.15583212112022@news.eternal-september.org
        HughHuntzinger  eaf567f0-d486-4af8-a18f-26d5d4a969b8n@googlegroups.com
      ¿Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_com  chine.bleu-91D88F.10310013112022@news.eternal-september.org
    HughHuntzinger  1053e5dd-932e-4771-9559-64465b4248d0n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--5.25pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (110) Top; 2.1 Hours, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov 13 {  3:07pm, 2022 }:44^(PST)  七蹴黀
      North Korea is growing; China & Russia are following The Hermit Kingdom's playbook.

Was: Decapitating someone using a 0.22 inch ( 5.6 mm ) diameter barrel.

North Korea is growing; China & Russia are following The Hermit Kingdom's playbook.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--9.48am.Seattle.2022
            HughHuntzinger  843a747d-c8d3-4df6-8c7d-66181c05a9d1n@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.50pm.Seattle.2022
        HughHuntzinger  a488c503-d880-46ef-960b-ba703b53fa05n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.16am.Seattle.2022
    HughHuntzinger  950530f4-2a56-4226-952e-81f34d4042a0n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.46pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (105) Top; 1.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov  8 {  8:58am, 2022 }:47^(PST)  七蹟櫇
      "Boogie Street" 2001 by Sharon Robinson & ( a 67 year old ) Leonard Cohen.

Instead of talking to the wall, hear:

"Boogie Street" 2001 by Sharon Robinson & ( a 67 year old ) Leonard Cohen.

Cohen had to create/sell these songs because his lifelong friend & money manager
robbed him blind while he was away training to become a Zen Buddhist;
he's very Jewish, by the way.

Live in London, 2009:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvrkNkindZ0
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.48am.Seattle.2022
            HughHuntzinger  cc0c4ffb-6dc6-457a-83c8-4ddf9cf1d05dn@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--9.48am.Seattle.2022
        HughHuntzinger  843a747d-c8d3-4df6-8c7d-66181c05a9d1n@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.50pm.Seattle.2022
    HughHuntzinger  a488c503-d880-46ef-960b-ba703b53fa05n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.16am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (105) Top; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov  8 {  4:11am, 2022 }:53^(PST)  七蹞禉
      "squatters rights" & Seattle housing inspectors.

You (HughHuntzinger) replied ( to me ):
> > Libertarians (Republicans) win, authoritarians (Democrats) lose.
> > Ukraine will win the war, not NATO nor Russia. 
> 
> Libertarians don't end individual freedoms. 

What ? !

Re: "pooping in a bucket".

RV camper life, off the grid, is popular these days; don't knock it.

Basically, you Democrats can't understand this f*ck up:

  Seattle raised minimum wage to 15+ $/hour, so that people like me can't 
  supplement our meager Social Security checks with work in call centers. 

This, above, is _great_ for unions, perfect for "virtue signaling" Democrats,
bad for poor people such as myself ( right wing libertarians ).

You asked me:
> What's legally stopping you from sharing [ an outhouse ] today ? 

"squatters rights" & Seattle housing inspectors.

> > I became a "property manager" ( in exchange for reduced rent ) 
> 
> How much reduced ?   

It varied, depending on how bad the "virtue signaling" got;
Seattle landlords have the lowest profit margins in America.

> > Extreme slums/crime blossomed under FDR, and it's happening again, 
> > under Biden ( & his puppet, Jay Powell ).
> 
> Homelessness existed long before Biden. 

Sure, but Democrats turned it into a _fine_ art.
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              .  fw_9L.2257121$f0c6.1223973@fx10.ams1
            .  p01imh5msh5oekt85uesok1m51op9i0tb0@4ax.com
          .  r98aL.2356379$%q2.2338051@fx15.ams1
        .  18timhtfrq74ggncierno5sg9rr31s6mfa@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.50pm.Seattle.2022
    ArindamBanerjee  f8a73a72-6d2a-4dd9-a167-fc4d57b212a3n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.06pm.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (201) Bad; 43.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Nov  7 {  7:10pm, 2022 }:15^(PST)  七蹜麗
      Libertarians (Republicans) win, authoritarians (Democrats) lose.

You (Banerjee) replied ( to me ):
> > For 70+ years now, we've been losing proxy wars to China & Russia; 
> > in that time, the number of countries has doubled, from ~100 to ~200.
> 
> No, the West has won in 0.5 Korea, the whole of Indonesia,
> Israel, and more recently in Libya and Iraq.

Those are independent countries, not part of Russia nor The United States.
Libya would have real promise, if it weren't for the Islamic extremists.
Libertarians (Republicans) win, authoritarians (Democrats) lose.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.03am.Seattle.2022
            HughHuntzinger  937417cb-bafc-4ab1-a69c-0d0e54d782aen@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.48am.Seattle.2022
        HughHuntzinger  cc0c4ffb-6dc6-457a-83c8-4ddf9cf1d05dn@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--9.48am.Seattle.2022
    HughHuntzinger  843a747d-c8d3-4df6-8c7d-66181c05a9d1n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.50pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (104) Top; 4.4 Hours, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov  7 {  1:42pm, 2022 }:23^(PST)  七蹜冿
      Libertarians (Republicans) win, authoritarians (Democrats) lose.

You (HughHuntzinger) replied ( to me ): 
> > > The Great Depression was as long as it was 
> > > due to poor monetary policy at the Feds.
> > 
> > Every Democrat is like a fentanyl pill; you're lucky if you wake up.
> 
> Dodge on the Russia war question, I see.

Libertarians (Republicans) win, authoritarians (Democrats) lose.
Ukraine will win the war, not NATO nor Russia.

Ideally, we'd celebrate our differences, instead of killing each other, ideally.
For 70+ years now, we've been losing proxy wars to China & Russia;
in that time, the number of countries has doubled, from ~100 to ~200.

> Good luck continuing life after your Social Security gets cut.

Too True, by the time I start collecting Social Security ( 2027 ? ), 
it won't be enough to pay a slumlord's rent, with or without an outhouse.

I'll have to camp out on your lawn, Huntzinger;
I'll knock on your door when I need to pee.

> > Although my living conditions have improved, I can't pay less. 
> > Two can live as cheaply as one, if they don't kill each other, if. 
> 
> Sure you can for what you just noted:  get a roommate and split the bill.
> Back when I was struggling to keep both the gas & electric on, there 
> were five of us living in a 3br apartment splitting the costs.

So you won't mind me camping out on your lawn then, right ?

This is what happened under FDR, and it's happening again, 
under Biden ( & his puppet, Jay Powell ).

> > Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle, 
> > where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month. 
> > Early 2023, rent&utilities will cost me ~1000 $/month. 
> > 9.4 %/year (1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)). 
> 
> Because that unofficial job you had went away.  Market average
> nationally back in 2005 was 3x higher than what you were paying

I became a "property manager" ( in exchange for reduced rent )
at the start of 2011; back then, before (absurd) "squatters rights"
( thank you Democrats, not ), shared housing was less of a problem;
today, Seattle housing inspectors are shuting them down ( as fire hazards ).

What happens once shared housing is gone, Huntzinger ?
Where do I go ? make room, I'm coming to a lawn near you.

> [ 9.4 %/year CPI ] Looks cherry-picked to me.

That, or you can't relate.

> > Seattle raised minimum wage to 15+ $/hour, 
> > so that people like me can't find work in call centers. 
> 
> Could you find work in call centers before the wage rate went up ?

I was younger then & more in demand; I never had to stoop that low.
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              Mighty_Wannabe│@_  sUZ9L.2286640$ulh3.1969345@fx06.ams1
            Morgan_Stanley│democrats@eatshit_com  tk9r3k$g5b$1@toxic.dizum.net
          Mighty_Wannabe│@_  fw_9L.2257121$f0c6.1223973@fx10.ams1
        ChrisV  p01imh5msh5oekt85uesok1m51op9i0tb0@4ax.com
      Mighty_Wannabe│@_  r98aL.2356379$%q2.2338051@fx15.ams1
    ChrisV  18timhtfrq74ggncierno5sg9rr31s6mfa@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.50pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (186)  OK; 4.8 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Nov  7 {  1:16pm, 2022 }:32^(-6)  七蹛鶰
      Ukraine will win the war, not NATO nor Russia.

ChrisV:
> [America] can't keep sending so much money to our #1 enemy.
> A war with those evil bastards is coming, man !

Ukraine will win the war, not NATO nor Russia.

Ideally, we'd celebrate our differences, instead of killing each other, ideally.
For 70+ years now, we've been losing proxy wars to China & Russia;
in that time, the number of countries has doubled, from ~100 to ~200.
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            ¿Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF47BF70DFD782322222@88.198.57.247
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.03am.Seattle.2022
        HughHuntzinger  937417cb-bafc-4ab1-a69c-0d0e54d782aen@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.48am.Seattle.2022
    HughHuntzinger  cc0c4ffb-6dc6-457a-83c8-4ddf9cf1d05dn@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--9.48am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (104) Top; 8 Minutes, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov  7 {  9:16am, 2022 }:54^(PST)  七蹛斆
      Two can live as cheaply as one, if they don't kill each other, if.

You (HughHuntzinger) replied ( to me ):
> > > Mandating low rent & high wages never ever works.
>
> there’s no national rent control,
> and the Fed minimum wage hasn’t been budged since 2010,

In Democrat-controlled cities, squatters can't be evicted,
as I know all too damn well ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Also, they raised minimum wage to 15+ $/hour,
so that people like me can't find work in call centers.

These are poor people problems, so you'll _never_ understand.
Democrats are now the party of the (clueless) rich.
Little wonder you're one of them.

For me, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year
(1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)).

Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle,
where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month.
Early 2023, rent&utilities will cost me ~1000 $/month.

Although my living conditions have improved, I can't pay less.
Two can live as cheaply as one, if they don't kill each other, if.

Globally, central bankers print their way out of debt;
there's a 0.000 % chance that anything else will happen.

> > > > What does work ? Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America".
> 
> Volker worked.  Reagan didn’t work.

In your little world, the Fed is independent of the dictator, right ?

> > FDR presided over one helluva depression/war. 
> > Is that what you want, HughHuntzinger ?! 
> 
> The Great Depression was as long as it was 
> due to poor monetary policy at the Feds.

Every Democrat is like a fentanyl pill;
you're lucky if you wake up.
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        ¿Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF47BF70DFD782322222@88.198.57.247
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.03am.Seattle.2022
    HughHuntzinger  937417cb-bafc-4ab1-a69c-0d0e54d782aen@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.48am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (103) Top; 42.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Nov  7 {  7:48am, 2022 }:33^(PST)  七蹛僑
      FDR presided over one helluva depression/war.

You (HughHuntzinger) replied ( to me ):
> > Mandating low rent & high wages never ever works.

Crickets.

> > What does work ? Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America".
> 
> Depend on what the definition of “works” is, because that was just 
> after Volker broke stagflation with a 17.5% Fed rate, forcing a recession.

It f*cking worked !

Democrats increased the minimum wage,
only to have rents go up even more ! !

FDR presided over one helluva depression/war.
Is that what you want, HughHuntzinger ?!

" West End Girls" ( suburban girls ) music video, Pet Shop Boys, 1984:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3j2NYZ8FKs
Live, 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswashpdBc
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    ¿Lustern│lustern341955@zombie_org  XnsAF47BF70DFD782322222@88.198.57.247
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.03am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    -Dropped, 11.5 Hours, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov  6 {  3:49pm, 2022 }:10  七蹘时
      Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America".

Lustern asked:
> Are you better off now then you were 2 years ago ?

I've no jobs anymore, which is both good & bad.

Mimicking their idol, Hugo Chavez, Democrats increased the minimum wage,
only to have rents go up even more ! !

Mandating low rent & high wages never ever works.

What does work ? Ronald Reagan's "Morning in America".
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              rBowman  jsofpgF97anU1@mid.individual.net
            HughHuntzinger  f1ed7713-582e-49bb-8c30-d50141b16f0fn@googlegroups.com
          rBowman  jsolrhF97anU11@mid.individual.net
        HughHuntzinger  ce99c908-459f-4110-938d-225bb06fdb83n@googlegroups.com
      rBowman  jsqdsdFi2ifU1@mid.individual.net
    ChrisV  g05gmh1mae0q9s4omli409oi8hhbf2r8rt@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--8.12pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  (182)  OK; 7.7 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Nov  6 {  0:10pm, 2022 }:38^(-6)  七蹗蒾
      For ~70 years now, we've been losing proxy wars against China & Russia.

Re:  WWIII.

For ~70 years now, we've been losing proxy wars against China & Russia;
in that time, the number of countries has doubled, from ~100 to ~200.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--7.31pm.Seattle.2022
            rBowman  jsjkhiFgu2gU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--11.12pm.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  jskrrsFmjavU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--4.19pm.Seattle.2022
    RonB  tk87jc$33t1b$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--4.46am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (61) Top; 40.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Nov  6 {  3:59am, 2022 }:40  七蹖掬
      Mitt Romney is a deep blue Democrat.

You (RonB) replied ( to me ):
> > Democrats demand more bodyguards for them, less for the slums;
> > they've become the party of the (clueless) rich.
> 
> Both parties are the parties of the clueless rich. 
> I remember when Mitt Romney's wife claimed they were "not rich."

Mitt Romney is a deep blue Democrat pretending to be Republican.

Republicans are the least worst, which isn't saying much.

Being rich is _one_ way to live; it's not the _only_ way.

In an ideal world (HaHa), we'd celebrate our differences, 
instead of killing each other.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--7.31pm.Seattle.2022
        rBowman  jsjkhiFgu2gU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--11.12pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  jskrrsFmjavU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--4.19pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (148) Top; 6.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov  4 {  9:10am, 2022 }:36  七蹎譼
      Democrats demand more bodyguards for them, less for the slums.

Re: The SS 'raise' that Biden says was his doing.

It ain't sour owl shit, it wouldn't pay my rent.

Democrats demand more bodyguards for themselves, less for the slums;
they've become the party of the (clueless) rich.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--7.31pm.Seattle.2022
    rBowman  jsjkhiFgu2gU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--11.12pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +Top, 1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Nov  3 {  9:59pm, 2022 }:30  七蹌鈲
      "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?!

You (rBowman) replied ( to me ):
> > RecessionOnDemand: when the Fed inverts the yield curve ( to fight inflation ).
> 
> After a century the Fed can't do a PID loop for sour owl shit.

"PID loop for sour owl shit" ?!

> Helicopter Ben and his protege Yellen 
> spent a decade trying to get inflation up to 2%

For me, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year
(1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)).

Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle,
where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month.
Early 2023, rent&utilities will cost me ~1000 $/month.

Although my living conditions have improved, I can't pay less.
Two can live as cheaply as one, provided they don't kill each other.

Globally, central bankers print their way out of debt;
there's a 0.000 % chance that anything else will happen.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--7.31pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      RecessionOnDemand.

RecessionOnDemand: when the Fed inverts the yield curve ( to fight inflation ).
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              rBowman  jop3vhFdophU1@mid.individual.net
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  7gb8L.1412$%SC9.577@fx37.iad
          ScottDoty  pan$22e08$cd7b36a8$87ae3070$9483e907@cultnix.org
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  uKu8L.23120$TUR8.11460@fx17.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.2--3.23pm.Seattle.2022
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ugR8L.15012$Jjx8.6881@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--9.44am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (348) Top; 47.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov  3 {  8:39am, 2022 }: 6^(-4)  七蹊窚
      My new 75 $ Amazon Fire.

You (DFS) replied ( to me ):
> > I mount my .5 TB NTFS thumb drive on my new 75 $ Amazon Fire
> > 10.1" tablet with 1920 x 1200 pixels & 2.0 TypeC USB.
> 
> What do you use it for ?

I'll use it to buy new parts when something on my PC breaks;
oddly, I've broken a number of DisplayPort & HDMI cables recently.

> > "exFat/NFTS" from "apkMirror.COM" plus a FileExplorer like Total Commander.
> 
> TC is $37 shareware.  Did you buy a license ?

That's the Windows price; the Android version is free.

"ES File Explorer" is probably better, I haven't tried it yet.

"exFat/NFTS" is free with an 8 second countdown.
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              NeoScotsman  jq1gg6Fo1dpU1@mid.individual.net
            ChrisV  kt7ojh1rpreom4jpn87b3a36pl4s9812si@4ax.com
          NeoScotsman  jq31msFsqqU1@mid.individual.net
        Dr_R_James│rjames@cccc_edu  171af59042d80bf1$2890$950576$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      HughHuntzinger  728341c4-6fd2-47f0-9c80-0be9d33ccd9bn@googlegroups.com
    NeoScotsman  jq441vF5tguU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.4--8.14pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  (122) Top; 39.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Individual.NET,  Oct  4 {  6:13pm, 2022 }:34^(-6)  七跐蠾
      Want to download 3 TeraBytes of data each month ? No problem !

NeoScotsman:
> Sometimes I'll have three or four gvim's open on one [ Virtual Desktop ] and
> now the icon in the [ Win11 TaskBar ] shows thumbnails of each.

I started c programming Windows apps back in 1989, Seattle, contracting for a 
contractor for Boeing ( aerospace & commercial ), "Computer Assisted Training".
I keep my desktop 100 % blank, black;  instead, I use FileExplorer.

I might have 7 instances of FileExplorer listed in my Win10 TaskBar,
each displays its path in the TaskBar proper, so I can see it at a glance.

I pay nothing for my Comcast Internet connection because I'm on "food stamps"
( EBT SNAP: 375 $/month, spent at Amazon Fresh [ same-day deliveries ] ).

The terms of my Comcast account is _Not_ viewable to the general public; 
not even Comcast's chatline workers knows about it;  one must _Call_ in,
and you must (somehow) know, a priori, the names of the deals*.

It took me years to figure it out, it's well hidden.

*: "Internet Essentials Plus": 30 $/month, 100 MegaBits/Sec down, 20 up, 
Unlimited Data ( by itself, a 30 $/month value ), No Term Agreement.
Want to download 3 TeraBytes of data each month ? No problem !

America's "Affordable Connectivity Program" (ACP) pays for it.

" RightClick -> Download " downloads .MP4 videos from YouTube**;
a 17 MegaByte .MP4 video takes 2 seconds to download !  
Torrents download at full speed: 14 MegaBytes/Sec. **:
DOS>  YT-DLP.EXE  -f [ext=mp4]   -o "C:/__/mp4/%(title).99s -- %(id)s  .%(ext)s"  \
  --no-mtime  --encoding UTF8  --write-sub  --write-auto-sub  --embed-subs  \
  --sub-lang en  --cookies /__/EXEs/Shell/Cookies.TXT
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              5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD│ehj46PkBWfBAng9C@VW28LtWn6wknpUMV_invalid  87r109lazn.fsf@pgxfcykv.qdjbmt
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  PYGVK.35429$x5w7.4895@fx42.iad
          rBowman  jop3vhFdophU1@mid.individual.net
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  7gb8L.1412$%SC9.577@fx37.iad
      ScottDoty  pan$22e08$cd7b36a8$87ae3070$9483e907@cultnix.org
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  uKu8L.23120$TUR8.11460@fx17.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.2--3.23pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  (352) Top; 7.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Nov  2 {  7:00am, 2022 }:59^(-4)  七蹆娛
      I mount my .5 TB NTFS thumb drive on my new 75 $ Amazon Fire.

Re: In "WSL" (LinuxOnWindows), NTFS mounts as "/mnt/<drive letter>".

I mount my .5 TB NTFS thumb drive on my new 75 $ Amazon Fire
10.1" tablet with 1920 x 1200 pixels & 2.0 TypeC USB.

USB 2.0 TypeC Male to TypeA   Male Adapter ( for the charger ).
USB 3.1 TypeC Male to TypeA Female Adapter ( for the thumb drive ).

First, I allowed the Silk browser to install _any_ app ( a jailbreak ),
then I installed "exFat/NFTS" from "apkMirror.COM"

That, plus a FileExplorer like Total Commander, is a sight to behold.
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          Lester_Thorpe│lthorpe@supeng_biz  1722a48be1580e41$8620$3625001$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
        ScottDoty  pan$cd465$f3aa4f12$806620a9$a63599e4@cultnix.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--1.40pm.Seattle.2022
    ScottDoty  pan$8102a$85cdadc$bdb047b$9b18648a@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.58pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (56) Top; 8.2 Minutes, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Oct 30 {  2:39pm, 2022 }:14  七踻圂
      Lester Thorpe is all about GNU, not Apple or FreeBSD.

You (ScottDoty) replied ( to me ):
> > Lester Thorpe is a new a caricature that Scott Adams is toying with,
> > one that's obsessed with GNU/Linux to the exclusion of all else.
> 
> Do you think Scott Adams runs Linux?

Scott Adams is quite familiar with some form of UNIX.

> Did you know Lester has said he wants to switch to FreeBSD ?

I don't believe that, do you have a cite ?

Lester Thorpe is all about GNU, not Apple or FreeBSD.
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              Michael_Moroney│moroney@world_std_spaamtrap_com  tjc4u6$13u5$1@gioia.aioe.org
            ArindamBanerjee  ddc20e6f-aa0f-4772-b4b6-52482d96c800n@googlegroups.com
          Michael_Moroney│moroney@world_std_spaamtrap_com  tjl41d$8d3$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Wally_Alescio│llew@wclasslc_oa  tjlo6r$4s0e$1@dont-email.me
      whodat│whodaat@void_nowgre_com  js7ah7Fitv4U2@mid.individual.net
    ¿Wally_Alescio│llew@wclasslc_oa  tjm8k2$73iu$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.36pm.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Sci.Math
    -Dropped, 5 Hours, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Eternal-September.ORG,  Oct 30 {  9:26am, 2022 }:42  七踺忂
      Jewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler.

In an ideal world, we'd celebrate our differences, instead of killing each other.
"The Moscow Times", July 29, 2022:
//  Russia’s population shrank by a record average of 86,000 people a 
//  month between January and May, state statistics agency Rosstat has said.  

That's a loss of ~1 million people/year !

Like America & East Asia, Russia's "fertility rate" is below replacement levels.
America's population only grows via immigration, not by births exceeding deaths.

A (Seattle) man, I maximize my independence.
Marriage is dangerous for men, here in America.

Jewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler.
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      Lester_Thorpe│lthorpe@supeng_biz  1722a48be1580e41$8620$3625001$565a1856@news.usenetexpress.com
    ScottDoty  pan$cd465$f3aa4f12$806620a9$a63599e4@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--1.40pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (55) Top; 2.9 Hours, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Oct 30 { 10:32am, 2022 }:16  七踺漠
      Lester Thorpe is a new caricature that Scott Adams is toying with.

You (ScottDoty) responded ( to Lester Thorpe ):
> > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
> 
> Is Feeb insane ?

Lester Thorpe is a new caricature that Scott Adams is toying with,
one that's obsessed with GNU/Linux to the exclusion of all else.
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              rBowman  jrrhuvFgnliU2@mid.individual.net
            ChrisV  cabjlh16elvjb261mkkb31e9rlodfkbch8@4ax.com
          Dkjgkgjhsvb│dj@linux_rocks  17223cb11872cb5f$1$2891193$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
        ScottDoty  pan$d94f5$ec53acf8$59537d12$56c8bac0@cultnix.org
      Dkjgkgjhsvb│dj@linux_rocks  1722405b0b7809a5$2951$1622261$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    ScottDoty  pan$1e2df$164768b$6489f01e$1ce4899@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--8.51am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (47) Top; 14.8 Minutes, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Oct 28 {  8:31am, 2022 }:23  七踱釋
      Illegal copying is nothing like "theft".

ScottDoty:
> And I don't want anything to do with your piracy, thief.

Be real, illegal copying is nothing like "theft".
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            Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  17220d8b242192ba$1$1070932$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          ScottDoty  pan$494d3$f9e9d042$dd90b908$55d2a780@cultnix.org
        ¿Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net  tjfioh$302ab$2@dont-email.me
      ChrisV  spgnlhlveb4ajhpb7o1vqmq2qk08j21he5@4ax.com
    ScottDoty  pan$70e75$b5c8ecbe$3ecbeff0$ddf44922@cultnix.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--8.41am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╳ 2  (46) Top; 3 Hours, BadRig, Individual.NET,  Oct 28 {  5:18am, 2022 }: 7  七踱摿
      Incel of the decade ?

Re: "All Women Should Be Lobotimized At Birth ( & enslaved )"

You (ScottDoty) replied ( to ChrisV ):
> > > I need a specific nomination.
> > 
> > Seconded !
> 
> And I hearby nominate him!

For what ? Incel of the decade ?

By the way, Andrew Tate is a (porn) agent on steroids ( no incel );
he doesn't piss off his clients/wifies, quite the opposite;
mostly, the (teenage) girls want to party _safely_ at his luxurious "casinos".
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      Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  17220d8b242192ba$1$1070932$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ulG6L.412806$9Yp5.170973@fx12.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--10.56pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (340) Top; 4.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Oct 27 {  6:35pm, 2022 }:22^(-4)  七踯燚
      Yeah right, that'll work.

You ( Alvin P. Picker ) wrote:
> > All Women Should Be Lobotimized At Birth II

So you're going to raise the kids then ?!

Instead, how about we celebrate our differences ?!

> > The GNU/Linux man, the REAL MAN, keeps his [ me ]
> > in total subjugation.  [ I ] serve [ him ] and not vice versa.

I corrected that for you.
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              JoelCrump  e66blhtphpuo3fc0dff2cu94pnber2fp2t@4ax.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bSi5L.52399$NNy7.16291@fx39.iad
          JoelCrump  dkeblh1g922ul7rhgf5q7ss0fte6s4hn5v@4ax.com
        Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann@t-online_de  tj75qf$1pmp9$2@dont-email.me
      HughHuntzinger  41163142-1bfb-4683-bbe2-097bd4cb02e9n@googlegroups.com
    Köhlmann  tjepvb$2re43$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--6.02pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +Top, 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤x11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Oct 27 {  1:33pm, 2022 }:47^(2)  七踮紫
      Who are they ?

Köhlmann:
> the company I was doing a real big project for tried to fraud me,

What did they do, exactly ?   Who are they ?
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              ArindamBanerjee  18c3c88f-33e2-4b7b-ab3f-8ba5b95ab6a3n@googlegroups.com
            MikeMoroney  tiqm27$1fl4$1@gioia.aioe.org
          ArindamBanerjee  5a56ade5-7d1d-41f6-84ed-67099b10e563n@googlegroups.com
        MikeMoroney  tis6ul$149j$1@gioia.aioe.org
      ArindamBanerjee  cf728b53-64ba-4117-9680-153a734b843an@googlegroups.com
    MikeMoroney  tja0nm$9d8$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--6.33pm.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (115) Top; 22.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 25 {  5:58pm, 2022 }:42^(-4)  七踧噂
      Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride.

Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride.
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              JoelCrump  e66blhtphpuo3fc0dff2cu94pnber2fp2t@4ax.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bSi5L.52399$NNy7.16291@fx39.iad
          rBowman  jrm6tfFm14qU3@mid.individual.net
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  lkA5L.400379$9Yp5.282612@fx12.iad
      rBowman  jroh2oF2fmeU1@mid.individual.net
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  BmU5L.822863$BKL8.411840@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--10.47am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (335) Top; 34.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Oct 25 {  9:43am, 2022 }:14^(-4)  七踥蘢
      Girls, you gotta love 'em.

You (DFS) replied ( to rBowman ):
> Do you put some nice undocumented features in your code that slow down 
> or reroute ambulance dispatches going to 'dark' neighborhoods?

unlike Atlanta, Missoula is 0.5 % African American, 1.2% Asian, 
2.8% Native American, 92.1 % White, 0.6% other.

June 2020, "Group holds Black Lives Matter protest in Missoula".

“ I know that in Montana we live in sort of a bubble,” 
explained Virginia Avery,
“ so I think that it’s not in people’s minds right here. 
  Until we bring it to the forefront, 
  it’s going to be an invisible issue in our community. ”

Girls, you gotta love 'em.
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              ChrisV  1fudlh141898m0jm0os63q851nfr3kc63l@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--3.10pm.Seattle.2022
          ChrisV  4aaelh14as81ca6dt5bf7gu04bihqv5i63@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--6.29pm.Seattle.2022
      ChrisV  jolelhd5c1sstik1riqkdpct7p9msf4lm7@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  2869f49e-b070-495a-93f9-ced7eb11c4a2n@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--9.17am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (112) Top; 2.5 Hours, GoogleG, 98.109.174.24,  Oct 25 {  6:15am, 2022 }:15^(PDT)  七踥啣
      For me, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year.

Hugh Huntzinger: 
> Seems that a sign of having a solid retirement plan is 
> one that doesn’t go off the rails by near term Market performance.

Globally, central bankers print their way out of debt;
there's a 0.000 % chance that anything else will happen.

Early 2005, near the University of Washington, Seattle,
where I still live to this day, rent&utilities cost me 200 $/month.
Early 2023, rent&utilities will cost me ~1000 $/month.

Although my living conditions have improved,
I don't have the _opportunity_ to pay less.
Two can live as cheaply as one, provided they don't kill each other.

So for me, last 18 years, inflation has been 9.4 %/year
(1000/200)^(1/(2023-2005)).
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              JoelCrump  dkeblh1g922ul7rhgf5q7ss0fte6s4hn5v@4ax.com
            ChrisV  1fudlh141898m0jm0os63q851nfr3kc63l@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--3.10pm.Seattle.2022
        ChrisV  4aaelh14as81ca6dt5bf7gu04bihqv5i63@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--6.29pm.Seattle.2022
    ChrisV  jolelhd5c1sstik1riqkdpct7p9msf4lm7@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--8.45am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (204)  OK; 11.3 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Oct 24 {  8:50pm, 2022 }:24^(-5)  七踣甀
      Two can live as cheaply as one, provided they don't kill each other.

You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ):
> > How old are you ? 
> 
> I'm a "fit" old guy with a grown daughter.

Usually, "physically fit" (married) people aren't "free thinkers".
Two can live as cheaply as one, provided they don't kill each other.

> > > > while(1) is OK. "if ( x+y/z*w, 1 )" is a good debugging technique.
> 
> I betcha you had to test your program, to ensure
> that you took-out all your "debugging" stuff.

No, I use only one (custom) "mode", neither "debug" nor "release".
When there's nothing more to do to improve an "applet", I work on "readability".
UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR:  What's "readable" for me, is _not_ for you.

> I'm just having fun rubbing [shit] into DumFSck's face.

I like him, he's a good programmer; unfortunately, he's p*ssy whipped.
Two can live as cheaply as one, provided they don't kill each other.
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              JoelCrump  e66blhtphpuo3fc0dff2cu94pnber2fp2t@4ax.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bSi5L.52399$NNy7.16291@fx39.iad
          JoelCrump  dkeblh1g922ul7rhgf5q7ss0fte6s4hn5v@4ax.com
        ChrisV  1fudlh141898m0jm0os63q851nfr3kc63l@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--3.10pm.Seattle.2022
    ChrisV  4aaelh14as81ca6dt5bf7gu04bihqv5i63@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--6.29pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (204)  OK; 55.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Oct 24 {  5:23pm, 2022 }:59^(-5)  七踢隟
      How old are you ?

ChrisV:
> TI58C programmable calculator [1977]... a Teletype at 110 baud.

How old are you ? I thought you were a young fit man with young kids.

> > I set " warnings as errors "; all but the following warnings are "on":
> > 
> >   c4100: unreferenced parameter.     Useful when debugging.
> >   c4101: unreferenced local variable.   OK when debugging.
> >   c4127 conditional expression is constant.
> > 
> >     while(1) is OK.
> >     "if ( ComplexExpression, 1 )" is a good debugging technique.

No comment ? !
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              Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171d21ec4db474a6$1765$1070932$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  1pg5L.86863$ITv5.76401@fx06.iad
          JoelCrump  e66blhtphpuo3fc0dff2cu94pnber2fp2t@4ax.com
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bSi5L.52399$NNy7.16291@fx39.iad
      JoelCrump  dkeblh1g922ul7rhgf5q7ss0fte6s4hn5v@4ax.com
    ChrisV  1fudlh141898m0jm0os63q851nfr3kc63l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--3.10pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (202)  OK; 24.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG,  Oct 24 {  2:22pm, 2022 }:53^(-5)  七踢氭
      Who is/isn't a programmer here.

Re: Who is/isn't a programmer here.

rBowman is a programmer, as are:
DFS, Branimir Maksimovic, Steve Carroll & Scott Doty, in that order.

I've read hundreds of Peter Köhlmann's posts ( when people quoted him );
never once did I feel like he was worth my time.

He might've _hired_ programmers once, maybe,
but I _never_ thought he was one himself.

I set " warnings as errors "; all but the following warnings are "on":

  c4100: unreferenced parameter.     Useful when debugging.
  c4101: unreferenced local variable.   OK when debugging.
  c4127 conditional expression is constant.

    while(1) is OK.
    "if ( ComplexExpression, 1 )" is a good debugging technique.

  c4189: local variable is initialized but not referenced.

    Variables get commented out, at times, when debugging.
    With " warnings as errors ", you don't want it to stop the debuging.
    UnUsed variables are informative, and might be needed again, later.

  c4238 nonstandard extension used: class rvalue used as lvalue.

    Needed when a simple int is (randomly) defined as an overly 
    convoluted/Byzantine class ( like ID2D1SolidColorBrush ).

  c4239 type conversion; C++ randomness.
  c4244 '=': conversion from 'int' to 'char', possible loss of data.
  c4302 conversion from a larger type to a smaller type.

  c4305 truncation from 'double' to 'float'.
  C4309 '=': truncation of constant value.
  c4310 cast truncates constant value.

  c4311 64-bit pointer truncation ( storing shorts in a pointer ).

    Implicit casting is cleaner/nicer.

  c4312 conversion from a smaller type to a larger type.
  c4430 missing type specifier - int assumed; more C++ randomness.

  c4456 declaration of 'P' hides previous local declaration.
  c4457 declaration of 'P' hides function parameter.
  c4458 declaration of 'a' hides class member.

    ＜D2D1helper.H＞ needs it, more randomness.

  c4459 declaration of 'P' hides global declaration.
       
    P ( a ShortTerm, local pointer ) is cleaner/nicer.

  c4474 'swprintf' : too many arguments passed for format string.
       
    A format string, passed to a macro, 
    might have default (unused) arguments.

  c4508 'Func': function should return a value; 'void' assumed.

    "Func() {}" is cleaner/nicer than "void Func() {}".

  c4554 check operator precedence for possible error.

    Fewer parenthesis is cleaner/nicer; just know the precedence.
    Use:  b = 1, b -= Hr - (int)Hr, b = min( HrsOffLn, b )
    Not:  b = min( HrsOffLn, ( 1 - ( b - ( Hr - (int)Hr ) ) ) )

  c4702: UnReachable code.

    A tempory "return" is needed, at times, when debugging.
    With " warnings as errors ", you don't want it to stop the debuging.

  c4706 assignment within conditional expression.
  c4709 comma operator within array index expression.

    Often, it's cleaner/nicer to assign stuff in an expression;
    same for array indices, "R_[ i++, i %= 4 ]".

  c4838 conversion from 'int' to 'wchar' requires a narrowing conversion
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              Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171d21ec4db474a6$1765$1070932$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
            DFS│nospam@dfs_com  1pg5L.86863$ITv5.76401@fx06.iad
          JoelCrump  e66blhtphpuo3fc0dff2cu94pnber2fp2t@4ax.com
        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bSi5L.52399$NNy7.16291@fx39.iad
      rBowman  jrm6tfFm14qU3@mid.individual.net
    DFS│nospam@dfs_com  lkA5L.400379$9Yp5.282612@fx12.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--2.00pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  (330) Top; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Blocknews.NET,  Oct 24 { 10:55am, 2022 }:30^(-4)  七踡趒
      bulk rename files in Linux using qmv.

DFS:
> Now about ReNamer ?  Last I checked nothing as good exists
> in the bizarro world of GuhNoo/Linux cr(apps).

Quote:
You can bulk rename files in Linux using qmv once renameutils has 
been installed. Navigate to the directory that contains the files and 
invoke qmv from the terminal. It will open the filenames in your text 
editor. There will be two columns, one for the original filename and 
the other for the new name.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--11.17am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      My 8 quart "Instant Pot Duo".

I slow cook short ribs in my 8 quart "Instant Pot Duo"; makes 5 meals;
press "Keep Warm" ( no pressure, 135, 145 or 167°F, never dry )
& it _cooks_ for 99+ hours ( 4+ days ), SousVide style.
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              ArindamBanerjee  18c3c88f-33e2-4b7b-ab3f-8ba5b95ab6a3n@googlegroups.com
            MikeMoroney  tiqm27$1fl4$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.02am.Seattle.2022
        MikeMoroney  tirn4g$104v$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.23am.Seattle.2022
    ¿Wilbert_Sciacca│wcsc@iccstcwa_ia  tirpud$bsvk$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--9.20am.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Sci.Math
    ╱ 1  (15) Bad; 23.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Eternal-September.ORG,  Oct 20 {  8:36am, 2022 }:46  七踐餎
      Too weak to care ?

Today's dictators only care about subsidizing the military industrial complex,
the couldn't care less about Ukraine herself ( too weak to care ? ).

Ideally, Ukraine would be neutral, like Serbia.

Russia & China's glory days are over.  
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              ArindamBanerjee  8ee84db7-aee0-46cf-b3ea-deb593d5996bn@googlegroups.com
            MikeMoroney  tinh6s$1teo$1@gioia.aioe.org
          ArindamBanerjee  18c3c88f-33e2-4b7b-ab3f-8ba5b95ab6a3n@googlegroups.com
        MikeMoroney  tiqm27$1fl4$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.02am.Seattle.2022
    MikeMoroney  tirn4g$104v$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.23am.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (114) Top; 26.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 20 {  7:48am, 2022 }:57^(-4)  七踐跙
      Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.

You (Moroney) replied ( to me ):
> > Russia is about to take Kyiv.
> 
> You've been living under a rock for the past half year or so?

No, not like you.

> The Russians ran away from Kyiv back in April!

So ?!

Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.
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              ArindamBanerjee  52a03e11-efc1-4c61-9736-0bb3faf8b652n@googlegroups.com
            MikeMoroney  tihbkf$qbp$1@gioia.aioe.org
          ArindamBanerjee  8ee84db7-aee0-46cf-b3ea-deb593d5996bn@googlegroups.com
        MikeMoroney  tinh6s$1teo$1@gioia.aioe.org
      ArindamBanerjee  18c3c88f-33e2-4b7b-ab3f-8ba5b95ab6a3n@googlegroups.com
    MikeMoroney  tiqm27$1fl4$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.02am.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (113) Top; 3.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 19 { 10:24pm, 2022 }:31^(-4)  七踏宏
      Too many dictators.

Too many dictators.     Russia is about to take Kyiv.
Russia & China's glory days are over.  
Democrats have become the party of the (clueless) rich.
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              ArindamBanerjee  268f9df9-991f-4c26-b60e-ef29e192eeden@googlegroups.com
            MikeMoroney  ti9f3h$1q13$1@gioia.aioe.org
          ArindamBanerjee  52a03e11-efc1-4c61-9736-0bb3faf8b652n@googlegroups.com
        MikeMoroney  tihbkf$qbp$1@gioia.aioe.org
      ArindamBanerjee  8ee84db7-aee0-46cf-b3ea-deb593d5996bn@googlegroups.com
    MikeMoroney  tinh6s$1teo$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--1.23am.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (115) Top; 6.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 18 {  5:43pm, 2022 }:15^(-4)  七踊戣
      Dictatorships rule.

Around the world, North South, East West, dictatorships rule;
to them, subsidizing the military industrial complex is paramount
& Ukraine is collateral damage.
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              Dkjgkgjhsvb│dj@linux_rocks  171df74008571d0b$493$3064126$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
            HughHuntzinger  f907effb-1219-4025-83dd-ec1a499b63a4n@googlegroups.com
          Bob_Campbell│f-off@nowhere_none  f-off-7D3E23.01210015102022@news.supernews.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--11.26pm.Seattle.2022
      Bob_Campbell│f-off@nowhere_none  f-off-B47E33.23075516102022@news.supernews.com
    NeoScotsman  jr483pFt3aiU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--11.24pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (132) Top; 38.5 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 16 { 10:39pm, 2022 }: 5  七踂鑹
      "NeoScotsman" (rbowman).

> > > RonB & "NeoScotsman" (rbowman) make good arguments for GNU/Linux.
> 
> NeoScotsman ?

Is the nickname I've given you
( because you live in the { well defended } "Highlands" ).

King Edward invaded Scotland and defeated the Scots
at the Battle of Dunbar, April 1650.
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            Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171e5401dd684ba5$9$2891193$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZiI2L.236343$BQA7.99185@fx41.iad
        NeoScotsman  jr189oFd3f0U4@mid.individual.net
      ChrisV  7l3okhdeplo09qvg5a2na6lkr3m15mt9ej@4ax.com
    NeoScotsman  jr310uFne39U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--10.58pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (131) Top; 10.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 16 { 11:31am, 2022 }:58  七踀鰞
      You _can_ sell ice to Eskimos.

NeoScotsman:
> Legacy.COM/us/obituaries/missoulian/name/sundance-heavyrunner-obituary?id=33278028

Oxygen(ation) is known to the state of California to cause cancer (jk);
& no one may challenge state "facts".

> I'm staring at 75 and my knees still are OEM.

Where were you born ( early 1948 ) ?

> There are Blackfeet around here with names that describe my style.

Turns out, you _can_ sell ice to Eskimos;
they _need_ it to pack the halibut & cod they sell ( 8 $/lb ).

//  Dictators subsidize the military industrial complex;
//  Ukraine is just collateral damage.
//  Dictators subsidize BigPharma & BigTech, including Bill Gates & Jeff Bezos;
//  "adverse effects" are merely collateral damage.
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              ArindamBanerjee  f8a52419-20bb-4aea-886a-7e0d9d80f9ccn@googlegroups.com
            ¿Volney│volney@invalid_invalid  ti77od$1ipkb$1@dont-email.me
          ArindamBanerjee  268f9df9-991f-4c26-b60e-ef29e192eeden@googlegroups.com
        MikeMoroney  ti9f3h$1q13$1@gioia.aioe.org
      ArindamBanerjee  52a03e11-efc1-4c61-9736-0bb3faf8b652n@googlegroups.com
    MikeMoroney  tihbkf$qbp$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--9.54am.Seattle.2022
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (117) Top; 6.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 16 {  9:31am, 2022 }:17^(-4)  七踀翕
      Dictators subsidize the military industrial complex.

Dictators subsidize the military industrial complex;
Ukraine is just collateral damage.

Dictators subsidize BigPharma & BigTech, including Bill Gates & Jeff Bezos;
"adverse effects" are just collateral damage.
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  MGz2L.581311$Ny99.218452@fx16.iad
            Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171e5401dd684ba5$9$2891193$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZiI2L.236343$BQA7.99185@fx41.iad
        NeoScotsman  jr189oFd3f0U4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--8.19pm.Seattle.2022
    NeoScotsman  jr1o5vFfk7sU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--0.18am.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  (127) Top; 1.3 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 15 { 11:54pm, 2022 }:55  七跾鲿
      A "herd" of stray cats.

NeoScotsman:
> Rattlesnake Creek is catch and release but I've never seen anyone fishing it. 
> The ones I wonder about are those standing in the middle of the Clark Fork 
> in January. I also wonder about the herons standing on the ice too. 
> The osprey left for California a few weeks ago. 

The University of Washington has plenty of (loud/wild) herons, turtles & beavers.
In the fall, I saw massive salmon spawning in a special (research) pond.

I've also seen deer, foxes, raccoon families, & opossums there.
Only on campus could one see a "herd" of stray cats.
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    NeoScotsman  jr1arsFd3f0U8@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--8.42pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (124) Top; 26 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 15 {  8:07pm, 2022 }:40  七跾杼
      slrn ?

NeoScotsman:
> So long TBird, it was fun but I've moved on to pan.

What you think of the slrn newsreader ?
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              DFS│nospam@dfs_com  bAj%K.317681$9Yp5.225052@fx12.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.5--11.21am.Seattle.2022
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  MGz2L.581311$Ny99.218452@fx16.iad
        Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171e5401dd684ba5$9$2891193$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      DFS│nospam@dfs_com  ZiI2L.236343$BQA7.99185@fx41.iad
    NeoScotsman  jr189oFd3f0U4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--8.19pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  (122) Top; 26.5 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Oct 15 {  7:23pm, 2022 }:53  七跾崹
      Fly Fisherman ?

NeoScotsman:
> Today I stitched together a little walk along 
> 24.2, 24.1, 24.4, and 24.5 for about a 7 mile walk in the woods.
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/rattlesnake+national+recreation+area/@46.9832006,-113.8913647,14z/data=!5m1!1e4
> There is a hill or two involved.

See any fly fisherman ?
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.5--11.21am.Seattle.2022
          DFS│nospam@dfs_com  MGz2L.581311$Ny99.218452@fx16.iad
        Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171e5401dd684ba5$9$2891193$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      NeoScotsman  jr0in5FagklU2@mid.individual.net
    Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171e5e6ac7bc9f2c$1$1556323$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--8.00pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1  (43) Bad; 4.4 Hours, BadRig, Usenetexpress.COM,  Oct 15 {  3:25pm, 2022 }:24^(0)  七跽睔
      Oxygen(ation) is known to the state of California to cause cancer.

gnu_rocks:
> When I inhale a lung full of air, I want oxygen.
> The resultant "fire" empowers my muscles.

Oxygen(ation) is known to the state of California to cause cancer.
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            Alvin_P_Picker│app@gnu_rocks  171dbf8f702c5da5$492$3064126$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
          ScottDoty  pan$b0837$e04a1486$4daf21b8$e92c8d15@cultnix.org
        Dkjgkgjhsvb│dj@linux_rocks  171df74008571d0b$493$3064126$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com
      HughHuntzinger  f907effb-1219-4025-83dd-ec1a499b63a4n@googlegroups.com
    Bob_Campbell│f-off@nowhere_none  f-off-7D3E23.01210015102022@news.supernews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--11.26pm.Seattle.2022
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  (1) ify; 59.9 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Supernews.COM,  Oct 14 { 10:21pm, 2022 }: 0^(-4)  七跺紼
      RonB & "NeoScotsman" (rbowman) make good arguments for GNU/Linux.

Bob Campbell asked:
> Seriously.  Are there any REAL Linux advocates here ?
> Anyone who actually knows WTF he is talking about ?  

RonB & "NeoScotsman" (rbowman) make good arguments for GNU/Linux.

ChrisV is a genuine open-source advocate.
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        DFS│nospam@dfs_com  S3f1L.623081$iiS8.455113@fx17.iad
      ¿Clogwog│clogwog@a