■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--9.55pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Religion is everything. "Science" is nothing. Religion is everything. "Science" is nothing. Humans are incapable of acquiring/using absolute truths. Everyone is "religious" because axioms are - assumed - based on what one wants to achieve. Einstein & I have faith in things ( e.g. superdeterminism ) that most (99.99 %) everyone else rejects. ■ Chuck│Chuck@choppedmeat_org YOzZH.293$HD4.84@fx08.iad MrChrisV b8ld3gl5f93q7cseicntkafo3ad1gonv9k@4ax.com Chuck│Chuck@choppedmeat_org oMAZH.295$HD4.37@fx08.iad MrChrisV romd3g59fsi0p9g7afna62m91487nehcmf@4ax.com Chuck│Chuck@choppedmeat_org RfBZH.31717$aV5.13451@fx45.iad MrChrisV 7pod3glsbp84aeb01abd9f3c2fuu7ag58f@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--4.41pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns -Dropped, 44.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Feb 24 { 3:37pm, 2021 }:59^(-6) Yπɴɷ Nothing but World War III could pull us out of our funk. ChrisV replied ( to Chuck ): > > who provides the jobs ? > > The poor or the wealthy ? > > Who drives the economy ? > Consumers or producers ? It's a balance. Too many (Chinese) producers, & not enough (American) consumers, as we're seeing today, & we get deflation, which drives the Fed - NUTS - because it makes it impossible for them to pay off "our" 28 trillion $ debt. Too many consumers, and not enough producers, due to a trade war, would create inflation, which would make the government - LEAP FOR JOY -. Nothing but World War III could pull us out of our funk. For 13 years now, Government-set interest rates have been at 1934 lows: Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com y%vZH.39135$Jr.13780@fx34.iad Chuck│Chuck@choppedmeat_org zJyZH.107032$NK4.17781@fx09.iad Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com wEzZH.5899$Sx1.1219@fx42.iad Chuck│Chuck@choppedmeat_org YOzZH.293$HD4.84@fx08.iad MrChrisV b8ld3gl5f93q7cseicntkafo3ad1gonv9k@4ax.com Chuck│Chuck@choppedmeat_org oMAZH.295$HD4.37@fx08.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--4.20pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 3 m8 Shifty; 1.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Blocknews.NET, Feb 24 { 2:52pm, 2021 }: 4 Yπɬϲ "Bohemians", such as myself. The great thing about "Bohemians", such as myself, is that we are NOT taking someone else's job, nor are we taking their fancy apartment, nor do we consume vast resources, like Bill Gates. Billions $ to protect AOC, nothing to protect tent cities. ■ MrChrisV 08ic3g92ijcnrh3719fdddkjs585db8dcn@4ax.com BowmanMontana i9n83lFi1i1U5@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s15r35$c07$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV 83sc3gdk3vqjd51sb8rjbnlq9rjsjaal3l@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--1.15pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV lpkd3gdfvv5d738opa9bsd24fngjbc1h9r@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--4.13pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m191 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG, Feb 24 { 2:34pm, 2021 }:18^(-6) YπɩА 3'12" in, Biden says... ChrisV: > Tell me exactly where it is in the video, > and I will look at it. 3'12" in, Biden ( on CNN ) says: " Not everybody in the hispanic and the african-american community, particularly in rural areas that are distant and/or inner city districts, know how to get online... " https://youtu.be/EbIExhuwpu8?t=193 ■ MrChrisV ql3b3gtbp1hpuk4ur9mas4r1d1h0injfdo@4ax.com TheRealSteve s143tq$1t6$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV 08ic3g92ijcnrh3719fdddkjs585db8dcn@4ax.com BowmanMontana i9n83lFi1i1U5@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s15r35$c07$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV 83sc3gdk3vqjd51sb8rjbnlq9rjsjaal3l@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--1.15pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns -Dropped, 5.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Feb 24 { 7:27am, 2021 }:45^(-6) YπYϐ Biden’s Town Hall Disaster. ChrisV replied ( to Steve ): > > > [Minorities] should look it up on the internet... > > > > President Joe says they don't know how ;) > > Liar. Here, Biden is quoted saying exactly that: " Biden’s Town Hall Disaster ": youtube.com/watch?v=EbIExhuwpu8 As a cult member in good standing, ChrisV will refuse to look at it. ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 3amZH.1235$rQ2.757@fx14.iad BowmanMontana i9n7qeFi1i1U3@mid.individual.net MrChrisV fiqc3g1lptvbb8apj9d8a1lksgck7fiovk@4ax.com TheRealSteve s15qv4$c07$7@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV g0sc3g9fr6mtravonk90j5h0ac43rdn7na@4ax.com TheRealSteve s15rrf$c07$13@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--0.55pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 3 m461 Mad; 3.1 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 24 { 7:37am, 2021 }:19 Yπaɍ "ReImagine": Reward Virtue. Punish Vice. Steve replied ( to ChrisV ): > > Only a genuine asshole would defend "Invest in the > > poor and all you get is more poor." > > It's not the investment act itself, idiot, > it's the implementation. Feed the pigeons & you just get more of them. "ReImagine": Reward Virtue. Punish Vice. ■ TheRealSteve s1428b$1t6$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV ql3b3gtbp1hpuk4ur9mas4r1d1h0injfdo@4ax.com TheRealSteve s143tq$1t6$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV 08ic3g92ijcnrh3719fdddkjs585db8dcn@4ax.com BowmanMontana i9n83lFi1i1U5@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s15r35$c07$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--0.48pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m461 Mad; 3.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 24 { 7:24am, 2021 }:21 YπYL Rasmussen Poll Biden is a Puppet of the Left Steve replied ( to Bowman ): > > [Minorities] should look it up on the internet... > > President Joe says they don't know how ;) Only the urban & rural ones, he says. ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com YIUYH.2$NK4.0@fx09.iad TheRealSteve s13b2s$808$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com K7dZH.5061$X63.3705@fx39.iad TheRealSteve s13qke$6h3$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s149c1$3tr$2@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s15pum$c07$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--0.43pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 6 m461 Mad; 3.6 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 24 { 7: 4am, 2021 }:54 YπUд Steve's IQ & programming talents. Steve's IQ & programming talents greatly exceeds that of his "fan girl", the flood bot retard, Snit. ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com wMfZH.2383$IU4.1343@fx47.iad TheRealSteve s1428b$1t6$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV ql3b3gtbp1hpuk4ur9mas4r1d1h0injfdo@4ax.com TheRealSteve s143tq$1t6$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV 08ic3g92ijcnrh3719fdddkjs585db8dcn@4ax.com BowmanMontana i9n83lFi1i1U5@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--0.27pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m198 Top; 3.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 24 { 7: 2am, 2021 }:55^(-7) YπUʯ Rich white kids are the worst. Anyone familiar with the urban poor, like me, knows that race is a total red herring. Rich white kids are the worst. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.11pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 3amZH.1235$rQ2.757@fx14.iad BowmanMontana i9n7qeFi1i1U3@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s15qrv$c07$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s15s26$8t5$3@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s15tlq$c07$17@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--0.15pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 9 m461 Mad; 2.6 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 24 { 8: 8am, 2021 }:26 Yπfʒ Billions $ to protect AOC, nothing to protect tent cities. Steve: > "The trouble with America's class system" > youtube.com/watch?v=C5xu32LnDyU Billions $ to protect AOC, nothing to protect tent cities. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--0.08pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV bdqa3g106tfu2t01gj4oh0714os1ea91dg@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.58pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com L1kZH.5262$X63.570@fx39.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.11pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s15rpg$c07$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--11.44am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 11 m461 Mad; 3.1 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 24 { 7:36am, 2021 }:17 YπaH " Resistance is futile " -- DemoRat Borg Steve replied ( to me ): > > Aren't we done destroying small businesses ? > > Does it look like it ? " Resistance is futile " -- DemoRat Borg ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com L1kZH.5262$X63.570@fx39.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.11pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 3amZH.1235$rQ2.757@fx14.iad BowmanMontana i9n7qeFi1i1U3@mid.individual.net MrChrisV fiqc3g1lptvbb8apj9d8a1lksgck7fiovk@4ax.com TheRealSteve s15qv4$c07$7@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--11.09am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 13 m461 Mad; 3.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 24 { 7:22am, 2021 }:12 YπXϺ Here's the plan. Re: Feeding the "pigeons". Here's the plan. First we round up all the glass breaking, looting, thieving junkies & put them in Seattle. Then we mix a DNA-altering substance into their heroin that turns them into super crime-fighters. ■ MrChrisV bdqa3g106tfu2t01gj4oh0714os1ea91dg@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.58pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com L1kZH.5262$X63.570@fx39.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.11pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 3amZH.1235$rQ2.757@fx14.iad BowmanMontana i9n7qeFi1i1U3@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--10.41am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 3 m198 Top; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 24 { 6:58am, 2021 }: ^(-7) YπTϠ Reward Virtue. Punish Vice. Bowman replied ( to crackhead ): > > We should invest in the poor, not the rich. > > Invest in the poor and all you get is more poor. Here's a novel idea: Reward Virtue. Punish Vice. When you feed the pigeons, you just get more of them. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.51am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s13ive$29o$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--0.08pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV bdqa3g106tfu2t01gj4oh0714os1ea91dg@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.58pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com L1kZH.5262$X63.570@fx39.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.11pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m513 Dropped; 26.4 Minutes, Usenapp/1_01_1/l_for_MacO, Blocknews.NET, Feb 23 { 7:50pm, 2021 }: 3 YοФɻ Aren't we done destroying small businesses ? Snit replied ( to me ): > > SNAP is now 234 $/month, up from 192 $/mo. > > At 3 meals a day, and assuming a 30 day month, that is $2.60 a meal. > > If THAT is the level the government has set as the price of a meal, > then THAT is the level businesses should be able to get for > a "business meal". > > No reason to pay the rich MORE than the poor in terms of food subsidies. > But we do. Have you considered what that would do to the restaurant industry & the "little people" ( my tenants ) who work in it ? Aren't we done destroying small businesses ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s1391i$808$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.51am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s13ive$29o$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--0.08pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV bdqa3g106tfu2t01gj4oh0714os1ea91dg@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.58pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m184 Dropped; 5 Hours, F_Agent, Fastusenet.ORG, Feb 23 { :48pm, 2021 }:26^(-6) YοιQ Amazon "Fresh" is anything but. ChrisV replied ( to me ): > > I can't jail anyone, can't evict. > > Other than that, I'm having a blast. > > As long as you have your cigarettes > & your $1 pizzas, eh ? 8) My "dollar" pizzas are now 1.4 $ on Amazon "Fresh", delivered to my door, but "food stamps"[*] pays for it, 100 % ( no taxes, no delivery charge ). [ *: SNAP is now 234 $/month, up from 192 $/mo ] Flour tortillas, for making wraps, are good/cheap. Amazon "Fresh" is anything but; my local 7-Eleven has more "fresh" products. Fresh yellow|red potatoes are continually sold out; so I have to buy frozen, pre-cooked French fries. "Bone-In" meat it is RIDICULOUSLY expensive & unavailable; even chicken is shockingly limited, no stocking up. I like bones ( for soup ); so I bought 4x "2.75 lb Pork SpareRibs", 80 $ total. I cut them into thirds & froze them; it'll make 12x pots of soup that'll last me about 30 days. Walmart would be 60 $ cheaper (!) but they don't deliver, & I can't make it there. I'm just too old, and out of shape; I'd need a Dramamine to avoid a nasty panic attack. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s1391i$808$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.51am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s13ive$29o$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--0.08pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s13ocv$dnh$9@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.05pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 20 m445 Mad; 5.4 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 23 { :26pm, 2021 }: 8 Yοεʀ Bill Gates' Green New Deal is the excuse. Steve replied ( to me ): > > I can't jail anyone, can't evict. > > Other than that, I'm having a blast. > > Given all your negative statements that seems odd to me. I focus a lot on the negative stuff just because it's interesting. It's like a soap opera, only better, because it's real. I'm surrounded by Peter Pans, punks, because society rewards vice & punishes virtue. Bill Gates' Green New Deal is the excuse. ■ MrChrisV bju73glg75skk4rd31g8rqjqeo5lgqoql6@4ax.com TheRealSteve s1137j$j04$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s1391i$808$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.51am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s13ive$29o$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--0.08pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 10 m435 Mad; 5.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 23 { 10:53am, 2021 }:34 YοΝნ I'm having a blast. Steve replied ( to me ): > > I'm enjoying my (heretic) self. > > You didn't sound like it with that one boarder. Blaming me for what happens in my godforsaken "house" is quite natural. Truth is, it's out of my hands; I can't jail anyone, can't evict. Other than that, I'm having a blast. ■ TheRealSteve s0u3vp$nc3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV bju73glg75skk4rd31g8rqjqeo5lgqoql6@4ax.com TheRealSteve s1137j$j04$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com Re_YH.1259$cH9.1072@fx48.iad TheRealSteve s139bd$808$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--11.47am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 11 m435 Mad; 2.8 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 23 { 8: 9am, 2021 }:18 YοʡΨ Imprisoning young, healthy people. Steve: > until the "liberals" stand up against that idiocy > there won't be a "we" for much else. Imprisoning young, healthy people in their homes, as "we" do today, creates a "mouse utopia" [*], a.k.a. "The Green New Deal". [ *: Wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Behavioral_sink ] -- Kids don't grow up; they stay with their moms, instead of reproducing. -- Utah & South Dakota are the only two states that are producing a replacement rate of kids. Google: fertility rate [*] *: average births per each woman's lifespan. -- Japan's population is aging & shrinking; China has the same problem. Billionaires, such as Rockefeller (1960) & Bill Gates (today), consider this progress. ■ pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0s1r2$vjv$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s0u3vp$nc3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV bju73glg75skk4rd31g8rqjqeo5lgqoql6@4ax.com TheRealSteve s1137j$j04$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s1391i$808$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--9.51am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 10 m435 Mad; 59.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 23 { 8: 4am, 2021 }: 2 Yοʠϰ Crackhead hates racists & sexists. Steve replied ( to me ): > I feel sorry for you... > living in BlUtopia Central must be hell. No, I'm enjoying myself; being a heretic among true believers isn't all bad. If Seattle were like China, I'd have vanished years ago. > I suspect if Crackhead, hh or chrisv > were to live there for a week, > they'd be singing a different tune. Crackhead has reason to hate White Males, I assume; so, naturally, he hates racists & sexists such as himself. ■ pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0rhke$81e$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s0rtrt$t3k$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0s1r2$vjv$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s0u3vp$nc3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV bju73glg75skk4rd31g8rqjqeo5lgqoql6@4ax.com TheRealSteve s1137j$j04$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--6.53pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m425 Mad; 6.4 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 22 { :12pm, 2021 }:35 YξაZ Blue CNN (Cap'n Crunch). Steve wrote: > Dems crow how they 'stand' for this and that > but it's mostly bullsh*t, they stand only when > necessary to keep power and this has been > the case for all of that 150 years. Blue CNN (Cap'n Crunch) & Red Fox News (Froot Loops) have lost their former glory, like Samsung luggage. Click Bait sells. Content smells. Congress spends billions $ to shield their Rotunda, in DC, but won't spend a dime to protect the growing hordes that are now living in tent cities. Only the old & sick should be "locked down" (imprisoned) not the young & healthy. Healthcare in America is often worse than in Iran, & its unaffordable: 500 $/month, 7 thousand $ deductible. -- I have Zero faith in America's healthcare system; even if it were "Nordic" (free), I'd still avoid it. -- I despise America's educational system; making it "Nordic" (free) wouldn't help. -- I have no faith in any pension system, not anywhere in the world, "Nordic" or not. -- Prohibition is stupid, Bohemians are my people; still, society - should - punish looting, glass breaking, thieving junkies, etc. Trillions $ have been - methodically - transferred from the young, working poor to the old, idle rich. For 13 years now, Government-set interest rates have been at 1934 lows: Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG 1970, Seattle, my dad's little 9-to-5 worker-bee job was enough to house 8 people ( himself, his wife & 6 kids ) in a house that's now worth 1.2 million $ !! 2021, Seattle, 8 worker-bee jobs gets you 8 housemates, most of which aren't paying their portion of the rent, nor cleaning ( bathrooms/kitchen/LaundryRoom/dumpster ). ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 3RyYH.90664$4i7.46232@fx44.iad Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ cse53gdknrql68ndip1htqe7ve0hj0qlvu@4ax.com Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 4BzYH.20069$hi3.2867@fx29.iad Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ e9u53g5c15ql74ap8b1hggq8s91jppnhm6@4ax.com Snit│Brock_McNuggets@gmail_com n3FYH.4757$ru.881@fx11.iad TheRealSteve s10oop$5id$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--11.13am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m431 Mad; 1.9 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 22 { 9:14am, 2021 }: 1 Yξвɹ You - will - drink the Kool-Aid & you'll like it. In practice, a "Social Democracy" is NorthKorea-cum-JamesTown. You - will - drink the Kool-Aid & you'll like it. To wit: DePlatforming, canceling, neighbors snitching on you, video taping heretics like me ( seriously, it happenned to me ). ■ pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0rhke$81e$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s0rtrt$t3k$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0s1r2$vjv$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s0u3vp$nc3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0u5im$rov$1@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i9fqplF3tafU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--0.24pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m203 Top; 15.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 21 { 11:32am, 2021 }:46^(-7) YξɁʦ Schwarzers. Bowman: > [ I suspect Bernie Sanders' ] real feelings > about schwarzers would blister paint. By "schwarzers" I assume you mean "Black Bloc" ( retarded white kids, UniBomber wannabes, dressed in all black, since the 1999 WTO riots ). ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com s0t0so$m6a$1@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann s0takt$v7m$1@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i9fp64F3kjkU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--11.28am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m201 Top; 17.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 21 { 11: 5am, 2021 }:16^(-7) Yξȼъ Peter Kohlmann, Take the vaccine ! Take the vaccine, Peter Köhlmann (& die). ■ MrChrisV e0v13g1o28k1nq7oj6m07u2k94g443e327@4ax.com TheRealSteve s0rap5$3ap$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--8.22am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s0reaj$9r0$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--11.44am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s0rvk4$cvm$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--3.59pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m440 Mad; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 20 { 1:40pm, 2021 }:21 YνρГ Trying to get lucky. Steve replied ( to me ): > > Government-set T-bill rates were that low in 1934: > > Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG > > IIRC what I'm referring to was for 10 year T-Bill rates. What makes you think that 10-Year T-Note yields aren't at 1934 lows ? When was the last time the world saw this: 10-year German bond (DE10Y) yield: -0.304 % 10-year Japanese bond (JP10Y) yield: 0.103 % 10-Year Treasury Notes follow the T-bill rates, up and down. Since 2008, the Fed has been setting 10-Year rates as well. The Japanese government buys stocks too. 10-Year T-Note yields may be negative soon. Naturally, this means that few can afford a house, wife & kids; so the population is aging/declining. > > Has housing really improved, Steve ?! > > I'm not claiming that it's more affordable now, > just that ownership was up, > as opposed to the downward trend previously seen. Technically, low rates equals "more affordable" housing, but only if you ignore the fact that it raises home prices, SO YOU HAVE TO WORK MORE HOURS to pay it off. Lose your high-stress job, and your wife leaves you, & you're stuck with child support, without visitation. > > I know 100x more millennials 100x better then you, Steve; > > How do you know how many I know or how well I know them ? I know because you never talk about them. > Go look at how many of them have 401(k) accounts, > I think you'll be surprised. I know a 33-year-old Korean guy who has a government pension; he tells me it's not enough to have a house, wife & kids !! he thinks he'll be able to support his aging parents, that's all. As a result, he plays the stock market like it was a videogame, trying to get lucky. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--3.36pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV e0v13g1o28k1nq7oj6m07u2k94g443e327@4ax.com TheRealSteve s0rap5$3ap$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--8.22am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s0reaj$9r0$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--11.44am.Seattle.2021 Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--0.01pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m70 Top; 13.6 Minutes, X.HTM, Blocknews.NET, Feb 20 { 11:44am, 2021 }:43^(Seattle) YνΧʣ BigMedia would hang them. Again... For 13 years now, Government-set T-bill rates have been at 1934 lows: Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG 1970, Seattle, my dad's little 9-to-5 worker-bee job was enough to house 8 people ( himself, his wife & 6 kids ) in a house that's now worth 1.2 million $ !! 2021, Seattle, 8 worker-bee jobs gets you 8 housemates, most of which aren't paying their portion of the rent, nor cleaning ( bathrooms/kitchen/LaundryRoom/dumpster ). Those that don't live in mom's basement, or in a tent, play the stock market like it's a videogame. I tell them: Gambling is entertainment, not a retirement plan. Trillions $ have been - methodically - transferred from the young, working poor to the old, idle rich. Little wonder they occupied DC's rotunda. Yet BigMedia would hang them for treason !! ■ TheRealSteve s0p2c4$f3b$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--11.47am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s0peo7$uti$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--3.36pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV e0v13g1o28k1nq7oj6m07u2k94g443e327@4ax.com TheRealSteve s0rap5$3ap$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--8.22am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m433 Mad; 3.8 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 20 { 7:44am, 2021 }:38 Yνʝʞ 40+ years of falling T-Bill rates. Steve replied ( to me ): > > > The 2008 "hammering" ? it was a minor blip. > > A "minor blip"... that took years (about 5) > for confidence to recover ;) 5 years isn't long, if you ask me. China, Brazil, Africa, India & Australia were all booming in 2008. 40+ years of falling T-Bill rates is more concerning: Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG T-Bill rates are government-set policies. They've transferred trillions $ from the young working poor to the old idle rich. Owning a home, & having children, isn't nearly as affordable as it once was; consequently, our population is aging fast. The burden becomes too great, eventually, & millennials decide to either " loot, squat, get high & have random sex " or they gamble in the stock market, like it was a silly videogame. ■ HughHuntzinger e95fb244-265d-44f7-b1ae-85cf04f78766n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0op1k$lem$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 33223973-f299-44fd-a2f5-0af3cc240880n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0p2c4$f3b$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--11.47am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s0peo7$uti$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--3.36pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m432 Mad; 6.6 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 19 { 2:40pm, 2021 }: 7 Yμშϵ 30 year mortgages. Steve replied ( to me ): > > Gambling is entertainment, not a retirement plan. > > Waking up is a gamble ;) So ? it's still - not - a retirement plan. > > Millennials know this profoundly, > > hence DogeCoin & GameStop Pump-n-Dumps > > & thieving junkies occupying AOC's tiny little brain. > > They do know, they watched their parents mutual funds get hammered. The (2008) "hammering" ? it was a minor blip; ever-lower interest rates, on the other hand, have been going on for the last four decades; see: Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG That's trillions of $ that have been transferred from the young, working poor to the old, idle rich. When the Amish need a house, they just build it; they don't apply for a 30 year mortgage ! > > "Governments" ( Doomsday Cults ) created this fear. https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/vaccine_mass_suicide.jpg ■ HughHuntzinger 123b7e08-164b-461f-ad96-717ac9068ecfn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0oldo$sga$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger e95fb244-265d-44f7-b1ae-85cf04f78766n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0op1k$lem$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 33223973-f299-44fd-a2f5-0af3cc240880n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0p2c4$f3b$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--11.47am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m429 Mad; 13.8 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 19 { 11: 8am, 2021 }:52 Yμхʬ "Governments" ( Doomsday Cults ) created this fear. Steve: > More than half the population has some skin in the game > because they have some level of faith. Should you buy T-Bonds, or sell ? Are interest rates going up or down ? Will the Fed allow the market to drop, as it should ? Or will they do what's best for themselves, personally, -- the idle rich, jetting around, from mansion to mansion -- at the expense of the working poor ( in tents, violently looting for drugs & sex ) Gambling is entertainment, not a retirement plan. Millennials know this profoundly, hence DogeCoin & GameStop Pump-n-Dumps & thieving junkies occupying AOC's tiny little brain. "Governments" ( Doomsday Cults ) created this fear. ■ HughHuntzinger 0d4d846a-7bc3-48cd-ab62-0db9305e2920n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0m1p2$m8c$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 123b7e08-164b-461f-ad96-717ac9068ecfn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0oldo$sga$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger e95fb244-265d-44f7-b1ae-85cf04f78766n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0op1k$lem$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--8.57am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m423 Mad; 11.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 19 { 8:29am, 2021 }:40 YμЪტ The Liquidity Trap. You're talking about the "Liquidity Trap", Steve. Investopedia.COM/Search?q=Liquidity.Trap To fix the liquidity trap, governments spend because others won't ( due to fear ). It's ironic because "governments" ( doomsday cults ) created the fear. It's immoral because it steals trillions of $ from the working poor & hands it to the idle rich. The bubble must be popped, & thieving junkies must occupy DC's rotunda. ■ BowmanMontana i97ekvFekqkU1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s0m2jo$m8c$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i98obdFmf5mU1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s0ncma$cjs$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i991t6Fo5inU1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s0oo3i$lem$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--8.32am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m421 Mad; 4.7 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 19 { 8:13am, 2021 }:38 YμШɢ "VoIP.MS", in Québec. Steve ( to Bowman ): > What, no love for Safari ?! In Japan, iPhones dominate the market. Worldwide, Apple has the most popular email client. I once owned a smart phone, for a few weeks, before it was stolen. That's it, nothing more. "VoIP.MS", in Québec, gives me multimedia "text" messages, & that's enough. Bria soft phone on Win10, Logitech g635 USB HeadSet. Cordless phone on the OBi200 ATA. ■ TheRealSteve s0mkse$hu7$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV cnpt2g5jv42hs2mi0rlcm3adqdq87kobj2@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 66a65a67-f119-4767-833e-6fa414b5fdban@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0n9o9$eh8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger b1510bf0-4ecd-4613-a7d4-04304539495en@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0omkc$7i5$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--8.15am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 2 m420 Mad; 14.2 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 19 { 7:48am, 2021 }:28 YμФS Hating facts & pushing lies. Speaking of hating facts & pushing lies... 1 - Pop the asset bubble that's stealing trillions of $ from the working poor & handing it to the idle rich. 2 - Round up homeless, thieving junkies & put them in DC's Rotunda, & have the National Guardsmen keep them there. ■ HughHuntzinger e54ebc55-61b9-4ab6-b7c5-fda04ee5684cn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0jfjj$12s$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 0d4d846a-7bc3-48cd-ab62-0db9305e2920n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0m1p2$m8c$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 123b7e08-164b-461f-ad96-717ac9068ecfn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0oldo$sga$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--8.00am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m418 Mad; 17.5 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 19 { 7:27am, 2021 }:52 YμРϘ The Fed won't let the markets fall. There's an unstated/unwritten guarantee that The Fed won't let the long-term asset markets fall. To achieve this, the Fed is stealing trillions of $ from the working poor & handing it to the idle rich. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--5.50am.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i97ekvFekqkU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV prht2g5vi5s52d0l6n9te5pkgvbc11um2e@4ax.com BowmanMontana i98qn7FmsiqU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV 0fev2glrdsgnpa56eet0hr7eba2cb8is84@4ax.com BowmanMontana i9a1v5Fu8p4U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--7.42am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m212 Top; 28.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 19 { 6:58am, 2021 }:20^(-7) YμЛВ My part-time programming gig. Bowman: > some of our clients that I've worked with for years are retiring. That, & Covid hysteria, is how I lost my part-time programming gig. My "3 month" contract (below) lasted 26+ years. Jeff-Relf.Me/2019.ABA.Agreement.PDF Supposedly, I qualify for PUA unemployment benefits, but Washington state's Unemployment Services has ghosted me, 100 %, for 11 months now. Phone calls and questions submitted online are ignored. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--5.50am.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i97ekvFekqkU1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s0m2jo$m8c$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i98obdFmf5mU1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve s0ncma$cjs$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i991t6Fo5inU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--7.19am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m213 Top; 9.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 18 { 9:51pm, 2021 }: 9^(-7) YμΓΞ Problem Solved. Bowman: > [ Mozilla Cancelling Brendan ] Eich was one thing but then: > [ Mozilla-CEO-says-deplatforming-president-trump-isnt-enough ] > caused me to break ties with Firefox. " There is no question that social media played a role in the siege and take-over of the US Capitol " -- Mozilla's "Diversity Hire" CEO Round up homeless, thieving junkies & put them in DC's Rotunda, & have the National Guardsmen keep them there. Problem Solved. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com s0khi2$od6$1@dont-email.me . Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--6.14am.Seattle.2021 Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--4.50pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m86 Cool; 11.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 17 { 5:57pm, 2021 }:23 YλБδ You're welcome, Capitol Hill. Round up all the homeless, thieving junkies & put them on Capitol Hill where the National Guardsmen can prevent them from leaving. ■ TheRealSteve s0hiof$5dd$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i93g63FlfedU2@mid.individual.net MrChrisV kplq2gd32brdmq53gp6dv4rb7fsd7mon8p@4ax.com BowmanMontana i96btaF80t3U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--5.50am.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i97ekvFekqkU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--7.57am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m209 Top; 11.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 18 { 7:16am, 2021 }:22^(-7) YμWД Bowman, How did you wind up in "Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy" ? How did you wind up in "Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy", Bowman ? Is Chrome your preferred browser ? ■ MrChrisV 9sqn2g1p72tqc2008o4lovc2mb1jfv57ts@4ax.com HughHuntzinger d7411a88-bef5-4d04-b4b4-91bc90ad3650n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0hiof$5dd$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i93g63FlfedU2@mid.individual.net MrChrisV kplq2gd32brdmq53gp6dv4rb7fsd7mon8p@4ax.com BowmanMontana i96btaF80t3U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--5.50am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m208 Top; 8.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 17 { 9:23pm, 2021 }:27^(-7) Yλгვ Over 72 years old and still working ? Bowman: > The RMD's from the IRA did come back to bite me. " At age 72, you must begin taking annual Required Minimum Distributions (RMD). You pay income tax on the distribution amounts when the money is withdrawn in retirement. " > The theory is I should be retired and have a lower > income but I'm not, plus I filed for Social Security > when the benefits maxxed out. You're over 72 years old and still working ? > The last thing I need is more taxable income. > my minimalist lifestyle hasn't changed over the years. > If I had a family it might've been different You work for the government because.... ? ■ MrChrisV 9sqn2g1p72tqc2008o4lovc2mb1jfv57ts@4ax.com HughHuntzinger d7411a88-bef5-4d04-b4b4-91bc90ad3650n@googlegroups.com MrChrisV rrao2glu19hqlsvole6ljlbman9c3usvud@4ax.com BowmanMontana i93g38FlfedU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--6.28am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m211 Top; 9.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 16 { 7:16pm, 2021 }:31^(-7) YλWН Sell Tulips. Bowman replied ( to ChrisV ): > > the 401k is where most people > > should be putting their money, > > I only did a traditional IRA. Sell Tulips. Teachers & Judges "calling in sick" (indefinitely), anti-China sentiment, & our "Green New Deal" spells: Reduced production & rising prices. Citigroup's "Panic/Euphoria" (PE) index: https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2021/1/11/6174001-1610402017199415.png - Forward - "Price/Earnings" (PE) ratio ( - Forward - GDP is projected to be amazingly high: q1: 12.23 %, q2: 38.19 %, q3: 10.93 % ): https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2021/1/11/6174001-1610402013220585_origin.png Tech stocks w/ negative earnings are priced at a trillion $: https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2021/1/11/6174001-16104020193729846_origin.png Earnings/Profit no longer matter (right?); so here's the price-to-sales ratio: https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2021/1/11/6174001-16104020205240283_origin.png Why own a money pit rental property ?! In Japan, homes are torn down & rebuilt every 30 years. ■ HughHuntzinger 14e4078b-80ca-41eb-8bf9-003178ddc09dn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0gnih$uoe$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 5732b189-eee3-4014-8d60-2da36c0d7418n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0ha7u$ea$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--1.10pm.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve s0hg13$c33$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--4.13pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m374 Mad; 38 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 16 { 2:12pm, 2021 }:51 Yκფp Citigroup's "Panic/Euphoria" (PE) index. Steve replied ( to me ): > > "Saving for the future" ( a.k.a. gambling/gaming ) > > doesn't make sense because: > > over half still have some level of faith in the market Gambling is entertainment, not a retirement plan. Citigroup's "Panic/Euphoria" (PE) index: https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2021/1/11/6174001-1610402017199415.png Returning to what matters (health): In Java, Indonesia, Saparman Sodimejo, a penniless, rabid smoker, like me, lived to 146. Our bodies actually - need - carbon dioxide; without it, our blood pressure drops too low. Skinny Steve Jobs, may he rest in peace, indulged in bizarre, "woke" diets. Thanks to his extreme wealth and connections, he got a fresh liver from a healthy 19-year-old, no waiting -- then promptly died. On the other hand, fat, 97 year-old Charlie Munger can be seen gulping Coca-Cola & cramming down peanut brittle on YouTube. He's still doing (cool) interviews. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--2.36pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Rolling Blackouts. Texan energy prices from the electricity grid surged 10,000% yesterday & millions are still without power, prompting the Soviet-style joke on Twitter: Texas is proof that if you assemble enough Californians in any one place, rolling blackouts occur. ■ HughHuntzinger c0202588-d2ef-44ad-a1be-f68d667d2ff3n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0e7ve$m4i$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 14e4078b-80ca-41eb-8bf9-003178ddc09dn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0gnih$uoe$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 5732b189-eee3-4014-8d60-2da36c0d7418n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0ha7u$ea$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--1.10pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m370 Mad; 7.8 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 16 { :34pm, 2021 }: 6 Yκდϴ Gambling/Gaming. Steve replied ( to Hugh ): > > > Most realize Social Security's 'ponzi' > > > aspect is likely to leave them holding the bag. > > > > If they did realize that about SS, > > then they would be saving a hell of lot more. > > On 50K ( or less ) a year, that's not > likely to happen unless you live in a tent. "Saving for the future" ( a.k.a. gambling/gaming ) doesn't make sense because: -- Only health matters. -- Health deteriorates with age. -- Wealth can impair one's abilities. -- "Righteous" mobs steal money. -- Most production comes from the Third World; if borders were closed, due to war, paper money would become worthless. ■ coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker 1meb2g1oqj1v1vfkc6pug6o7ajotprlv1h@4ax.com MrChrisV kk4d2gdj0ninkumf26fqf05v5q1uo0f4h9@4ax.com ！Luis_Garcia│tacotacotacog XnsACCF7C3418F8F6333@46.165.242.75 MrChrisV 4t7l2g1ar2ktvlvc9npts44p2ro10mjcnf@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 79c432d0-9fdc-445f-a27d-7c5415b10f95n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve s0h3a4$ude$13@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--11.00am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m366 Mad; 18.5 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 16 { 10:35am, 2021 }:48 Yκпც 699 people died of overdoses in San Francisco, 2020. Hugh Huntzinger mentioned: > > a half million Americans "died too early" 699 people died of overdoses in San Francisco, 2020, 3x the number who (supposedly) died of Covid. I say "supposedly" because people who died of gunshot wounds are counted as "Covid" deaths. Again: Congress is so popular, they need .5 billion $ just to protect themselves. They "borrow" (steal) left-n-right; & they're getting better at it. Ignoring the sick & weak comes natural. ■ progressive_pete│progressive_ gKYVH.22827$SN4.8456@fx41.iad pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s09ncd$484$7@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com s09o6h$efd$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV lovk2g1280vj17dl04d5im8c5elc2b38ng@4ax.com Yannix│Yannix@bangfangyannix_ JAvWH.4431$cc2.1577@fx13.iad pothead│pothead@snakebite_com s0egpq$5u2$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.15--11.49am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m158 Mad; 10.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 15 { 11: 7am, 2021 }:39 YκȽɣ Congress is so popular... Congress is so popular, they need ..5 billion $ just to protect themselves. Ignoring the sick & weak costs nothing. ■ BowmanMontana i8u49hFjr3gU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com s0dact$1p0$1@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i8vevdFrqtpU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV 247l2gh1sqhd41ekrrunu9dpanjt85849j@4ax.com Snit│Brock_McNuggets@gmail_com tXxWH.104560$GN9.46882@fx46.iad TheRealSteve s0edkj$m4i$14@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.15--11.30am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m347 Mad; 1.1 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 15 { 10:13am, 2021 }:39 Yκȴɣ Politicians "borrow" (steal) left-n-right. Politicians "borrow" (steal) left-n-right, ignoring the poor & sick. Each day, they get better at it. ■ Zinc_Plated│ s0bh30$vos$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.14--10.26am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Computer.Workshop ╱ 1 m6 Cool; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 14 { 7:54am, 2021 }: 7^(-5) Yιʟ7 Poor babies. Antifa are like Berkeley's UniBomber, Ted Kaczynski; i.e. trust fund babies, like Karl Marx, crashing their little Maseratis left-n-right. Poor babies. We saw them in 1999, in Seattle, protesting the WTO. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.14--10.01am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics The (dying) DeepState. The (dying) "News" is for the (dying) DeepState who, like 15-year-old dogs, dream all day long; GenZ ignores it, of course. Soon, the DeepState will (financially) overdose; then, only one's health will matter, not stocks. To "Jubilee" America's 27 trillion $ debt, the government -must restrict imports & reduce "production" (GDP). Consumer demand will remain the same, of course, but production -must slow down dramatically; i.e. stagflation, AOC's "Green New Deal". It -must happen... defaults, bankruptcies; "pensioners" will get charity, nothing more. ■ TheRealSteve s0119n$jnm$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV rk282g9nmjlejfhhr15m5fdvtpn1ff2j79@4ax.com BowmanMontana i8jlfaFig1fU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV hkca2g90jk7vlor6spsp66oi6rl5q0v349@4ax.com TheRealSteve s03rbi$h7a$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i8m6vvF36a1U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--11.34pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m246 Top; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 11 { 6:21pm, 2021 }:24^(-7) YηЕε The (fentanyl) asylum. Bowman mentions: > Archives.HUD.GOV/news/1999/pr99-131.html > Timeline_of_the_United_States_housing_bubble#1992_-_2000 > privatizing gains & socializing losses. The unelected deep state runs "the world" ( the fentanyl asylum ). " Every junkie is a setting sun." -- Neil Young, 1972 ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--8.24pm.Seattle.2021 Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann s005eb$n73$2@dont-email.me TheRealSteve s0119n$jnm$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV rk282g9nmjlejfhhr15m5fdvtpn1ff2j79@4ax.com BowmanMontana i8jlfaFig1fU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--10.52pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m254 Top; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Θ, Feb 10 { 7:10pm, 2021 }: 6^(-7) YηVϴ "Borrowing" (stealing) is bipartisan. "Borrowing" (stealing) is bipartisan. Again: To "Jubilee" America's 27 trillion $ debt, the government -must restrict imports & reduce "production" (GDP). Consumer demand will remain the same, of course, but production -must slow down dramatically; i.e. stagflation, AOC's "Green New Deal". It -must happen... defaults, bankruptcies; pensioners will be hit hardest. Printing money just makes it worse. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--8.24pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Defaults, Bankruptcies. To "Jubilee" America's 27 trillion $ debt, the government -must restrict imports & reduce "production" (GDP). Consumer demand will remain the same, of course, but production -must slow down dramatically; i.e. stagflation, AOC's "Green New Deal". It -must happen... defaults, bankruptcies; pensioners will be hit hardest. Printing money just makes it worse. ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com ZefTH.20$PpW2.15@fx17.iad Scout│me4guns@verizon_removeme_ rvrj0m$str$7@dont-email.me Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com %fdUH.6029$912.1037@fx08.iad BowmanMontana i8ea49Fh4l9U2@mid.individual.net Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 4CmUH.11911$L21.2635@fx48.iad BowmanMontana i8ek8uFisn6U2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--9.50pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m257 Top; 11.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 8 { 9:18pm, 2021 }:59^(-7) Yεгx Snit hates himself. Snit hates himself; ergo, he hates white men. DemoRats love hate; race is their excuse. DemoRat judges emptied the jails, so the police can't do anything, & no one can be evicted. Rape & murder are skyrocketing. Thank you very much, you filthy rich DemoRats ! How did you understand so clearly what we needed ? "Moe", a "tenant" who never pays rent, continually breaks windows, walls & light fixtures. He destroyed 2 washing machines & 2 dryers, using an axe, to get the quarters. One of his squatter "friends" put a axe through his door. So Moe started pounding on my door, over-n-over again, demanding that I fix it. I told him: We have an agreement, you & I. You do nothing for me & I do nothing for you. Yesterday, he tried to break into a room, again, while a tenant was in it. China's Great Leap "Forward" (backward) & Cultural "Revolution" (devolution) failed like America's ProReGressives. History is repeating. DemoRats, like Jeff Bezos & Bill Gates, are (intentionally?) destroying "slums" yet again. ■ MrChrisV 13jt1gdlvcrqnuv5suqa4u3qc5fvr4vc89@4ax.com MrChrisV 83lt1ghkt1dt2rtg6sacnba48gegkt7h51@4ax.com TheRealSteve rvmmfr$m7d$14@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rvn2rq$etq$3@dont-email.me Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com A_ETH.6466$3Q6.666@fx38.iad BowmanMontana i892kkFgfptU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--9.45pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns +Top, 1.1 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 6 { 6:47pm, 2021 }:21^(-7) Yδʓя "I want my dad", ad nauseam. Asian culture is the most productive. Whites have too many trust fund babies, e.g. Seattle, Portland, DemoRats & Karl Marx. Trust fund babies never squander their inheritance, right ? Too many Black girls lack father figures. The 9 year-old girl who got pepper sprayed chanted "I want my dad", ad nauseam; it was horrifying. The DemoRats' "solution" is to pillory white males; especially Trump supporters, like Tom Brady. Clean-Cut white men are the source of all evil, no ?! DemoRat Jeff Bezos should know, he's one of them. Best to reward "hip" vices & punish "racist" virtue, right ? No one is going to steal food from the communal fridge, right ? Hippie communes, like "Kool-Aid" Jamestown, are impervious to "the tragedy of the commons", right ? ■ Gig Workers don't get hazed by douche bags looking to pump up their fragile egos. Salary Jobs get you child support & a bitter ex-wife who moves to Japan, just to avoid you, & a deep loathing for your ex-employer. BitCoin Pump&Dumps make you as unproductive as Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby. Marx was -way ahead of his time ! Dark rooms are for those who use their monitors more than their cameras. A 9" foam bed is more comfortable than a chair. AmazonBasics monitor arm, 32" 4k curved monitor. Virtual Keyboard, Speech-to-Text & a g600 mouse: Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG ■ Aardvark│aardvark@aardvark_uk_ rvbfpl$vaa$2@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i7t800F6m86U1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve rvbvip$qa9$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i7ul18Ff3fqU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--5.47am.Seattle.2021 Aardvark│aardvark@aardvark_uk_ rvglb9$j3g$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.4--5.03am.Seattle.2021 ➤Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╳ 2 m18 Cool; 1.6 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 4 { 3:21am, 2021 }:13 YβϙΣ Aardvark confessed. Aardvark confessed: > I'm a racist piece of shit. No shit Sherlock. You hate Clean-Cut White Men. Likely, you hate yourself as well. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.4--4.52am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy "Productivity" (GDP). Gold, silver, bitcoin & GameStop cover up the real issue: falling "productivity" (GDP) due to: – Calling in sick (Covid). – Bankrupt, defaulting "cities" (Hoovervilles). – Border closures. – " All against All " riots. & – The tragedy of the (hyperbolic) commons. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--5.29pm.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ p8ci1g169pdks00eqakeqfbqon880r48pi@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--5.49am.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ ldbj1g15hk6sueikjc501dq59h41ppugrn@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--4.07pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7ur4pFg3rtU3@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--6.05am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 7 m215 Top; 4.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 2 { 9:38pm, 2021 }: 5^(-7) Yαжɽ Gold, silver, bitcoin & GameStop shares. Bowman asked: > There's gold in Fort Knox ? > I was expecting a page torn out of > a day planner with 'IOU The Fed'. Gold, silver, bitcoin & GameStop shares are too volatile to be used as a currency. Again: What's the alternative to capitalism, Venezuela ?! Venezuela has more oil & gold than we do; yet they can't produce a gallon of gas because everyone is a whiny little trust fund baby who feels entitled, like Karl Marx, oblivious to the tragedy of the commons. If Democrats manage to make our planet unproductive, like Venezuela, they'll have achieved the inflation that they so -desperately desired ( to wipe out their debt ). It's tent city... until World War III, " All against All ", as Putin put it. ■ ！Yanny│emailspamnotme@mail_org MPG.3a826b56c0f05789989705@nntp.aioe.org Aardvark│aardvark@aardvark_uk_ rvbfpl$vaa$2@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i7t800F6m86U1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve rvbvip$qa9$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i7ul18Ff3fqU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--5.47am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Computer.Workshop ╱ 6 m215 Top; 5.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 2 { 7:53pm, 2021 }:46^(-7) YαФშ George Floyd died from Covid, a bad heart... George Floyd died from Covid, a bad heart, cocaine, fentanyl & a panic attack. Despite the (harmless) leg on his neck, he could talk/breathe freely. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--3.58pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7s7tvFge6U2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--1.58am.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7t8rsF6rl5U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--3.59pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7uot2FfonvU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--5.32am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 8 m215 Top; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 2 { 8:59pm, 2021 }:48^(-7) YαЯც Mild Weather China Towns. The better the weather, the higher the taxes+regulations, & poor people, in China towns, are taxed less; so I prefer mild weather china towns. Politically, Snoqualmie Pass divides Washington state ( harsh-weather red to the east, mild blue to the West ); so they should be two different states. Normally, prevailing winds, ocean currents[*] & river drainage ( from mountains ) promotes humanity; but currently, in the Amazon, insects dominate. *: 66.7% of London's daylight hours are cloudy [**] because the Warm Gulfstream condenses, fogs up, there, like cold glass in a warm room. **: Google: percent daylight hours are cloudy, London ■ Apple, "smart" phones: No. Yes to: YouTube, Google, Desktop soft phones (Bria), ATA cordless phones, MultiMedia text messages, USENET, private server emails, Visual Studio C++, Win10, "hot virtual keyboard", 39 button Logitech g600 mouse, Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG Nuance Dragon speech recognition, g635 USB HeadSet, Firefox Developer Edition, TeraByte "Samsung 970 EVO Plus" NVMe M.2 SSD, laser printers/scanners, 32" curved 4K monitors, AmazonBasics monitor arm swung over my bed. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--4.30pm.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ ld7h1gtrv4rungunqeci4u1q8bah9gebbo@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--5.29pm.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ p8ci1g169pdks00eqakeqfbqon880r48pi@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--5.49am.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ ldbj1g15hk6sueikjc501dq59h41ppugrn@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--4.07pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m27 Shifty; 2.8 Hours, F_Agent, Giganews.COM, Feb 2 { 11:53am, 2021 }:42^(-8) YαΨფ What's the alternative to capitalism, Venezuela ?! "Klaus Schadenfreude" replied ( to me ): > > Exploitable/Mineable gold reserve estimates > > are much harder to pinpoint. > > > > As of 2019, the United States was estimated to have > > some 3,000 metric tons of gold reserves in mines > > vs. Venezuela's 10,000 tonnes. > > https://www.usfunds.com/investor-library/frank-talk/top-10-countries-with-largest-gold-reserves/#.YBmtouhKiUk You're confusing " Exploitable/Mineable gold reserves ( in mines ) " with Fort Knox. Returning to my original topic: What's the alternative to capitalism, Venezuela ?! Venezuela has more oil & gold than we do; yet they can't produce a gallon of gas because everyone is a whiny little trust fund baby who feels entitled, like Karl Marx, oblivious to the tragedy of the commons. If Democrats manage to make our planet unproductive, like Venezuela, they'll have achieved the inflation that they so -desperately desired ( to wipe out their debt ). It's tent city... until World War III, " All against All ", as Putin put it. DemoRat cities are bankrupt in every sense of the word. There, 14-year-old carjackers are an issue. DemoRats hate Whites. White DemoRats hate themselves, naturally. They hate Mayor Greg Mengarelli, Prescott AZ, for example, because he's married with 9 children ( 4 adopted, 2 grandchildren ). Greg likes mountain biking, hiking, hunting, & leading river trips down the Colorado River. The horror !! Don't look now but I think there's a clean-cut, married w/ children, fireman underneath your bed. Careful, he might be White. ■ BowmanMontana i7p7veFd9enU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rva0rp$ml5$4@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--3.58pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7s7tvFge6U2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--1.58am.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7t8rsF6rl5U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--3.59pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m212 Top; 7.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 2 { 7:19am, 2021 }:58^(-7) Yαʙɶ The Casscadia bioregion. Missoula is on the Eastern edge of the Casscadia bioregion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(bioregion) Outside Casscadia, to the east, is quite different. ■ dale│dale@dalekelly_org dr776l.9oc.17.1@news.alt.net SpamBot AjOT3n0Qc.+@alt.checkmate.orgy dale│dale@dalekelly_org dr87q8.bls.19.1@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--6.20am.Seattle.2021 Altnet.General, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Free.Newsservers ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET, Feb 2 { 4:58am, 2021 }:14^(-5) Yαʁϼ I never crosspost (jk). dale: > like to crosspost I never crosspost (jk). ■ dale│dale@dalekelly_org dr776l.9oc.17.1@news.alt.net BowmanMontana i7s5ntF4fnU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--2.15am.Seattle.2021 Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rvbe74$qkv$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--6.11am.Seattle.2021 Altnet.General, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Free.Newsservers ╱ 1 m65 Dropped; 41.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 2 { 3:48am, 2021 }:51^(1) Yαɶp Martin Niemoller's memories of Nazi Germany. "Individual.NET" drops all posts from Archimedes plutonium ( a mere idiot ). Next time you feel the need to goose step around me, Peter Köhlmann, please recall Martin Niemöller's account of his time in Nazi Germany: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak for me. ■ dale│dale@dalekelly_org dr776l.9oc.17.1@news.alt.net BowmanMontana i7s5ntF4fnU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--2.15am.Seattle.2021 Andy_Burns│usenet@andyburns_uk i7sq7rF3uffU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--5.55am.Seattle.2021 Altnet.General, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Free.Newsservers ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Feb 2 { 3: 9am, 2021 }:47^(0) Yαɯϒ First they came for the Jews, and I did nothing... Andy Burns replied ( to me ): > > "Individual.NET" is 10 Euros per year; > > warning: its archive is heavily censored. > > Do NOT post using Individual.NET, it'll censor you. > > [ "Individual.NET" has ] never censored any of my posts. First they came for the Jews, and I did nothing... ■ ！Phillip│skypiolot209o1@flyers_ XnsACC4733DEDE565555@46.165.242.75 Aardvark│aardvark@aardvark_uk_ rv9mfc$l8m$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--4.30pm.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ ld7h1gtrv4rungunqeci4u1q8bah9gebbo@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--5.29pm.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ p8ci1g169pdks00eqakeqfbqon880r48pi@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--5.49am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m25 Shifty; 1.5 Hours, F_Agent, Giganews.COM, Feb 2 { 3: 1am, 2021 }:58^(-8) Yαɮɶ Exploitable/Mineable gold reserve estimates. "Klaus Schadenfreude" replied ( to me ): > > Venezuela holds 299,953,000,000 barrels > > of proven oil reserves as of 2016, > > -- ranking 1st in the world -- > > Tell us about the gold Exploitable/Mineable gold reserve estimates are much harder to pinpoint. As of 2019, the United States was estimated to have some 3,000 metric tons of gold reserves in mines vs. Venezuela's 10,000 tonnes. Quoting "InvestoPedia.COM": Venezuela's oil reserves are greater than those of the United States, Canada, and Mexico combined. Venezuela also has the second-largest reserves of gold deposits [ after Australia ]. ■ dale│dale@dalekelly_org dr776l.9oc.17.1@news.alt.net BowmanMontana i7s5ntF4fnU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--2.15am.Seattle.2021 Altnet.General, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Free.Newsservers ╱ 11 m205 Top; 3.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 1 { 9:20pm, 2021 }:31^(-7) Yαrʗ USENET provider suggestions? > USENET provider suggestions ? Unless you enjoy -Random lags ( when will your post show up ? ), do -Not use a binary server to read Usenet. For that, use INN servers; to wit: News5.Open-News-Network.ORG:119 News2.Open-News-Network.ORG:119 News6.Open-News-Network.ORG:119 News.Individual.NET:119 "OpenNews" is cost free; warning: these servers are -Slow ! Register at: Open-News-Network.ORG/register Must translate from German; if Captcha fails, F5 refresh. "Individual.NET" is 10 Euros per year; warning: its archive is heavily censored. Do NOT post using Individual.NET, it'll censor you; instead, use a binary server; to wit: News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119 or usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 They won't censor you; they don't even keep the "Path:" line, so you can't be identified. Their archive is decades deep. $5 buys you 11 gigs, enough for several life times. If one is down ( -Very unlikely ), use the other one. ■ pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6j3j$dje$4@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.43pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7p7veFd9enU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rva0rp$ml5$4@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--3.58pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7s7tvFge6U2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--1.58am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 14 m205 Top; 2.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Feb 1 { 9:57pm, 2021 }:54^(-7) YαxϚ Seattle, 18 millennia ago. Bowman replied ( to me ): > > The Columbia River smashed through the Cascades, > > a huge mountain range, like it was nothing. > > You've got Glacial Lake Missoula to thank > for some of that. Global warming. Seattle, 18 millennia ago, was under a glacier & when Glacial Lake Missoula broke loose, the Columbia River was 60x today's Amazon,. Quote: - The ice dam was over 2000 feet tall. - Glacial Lake Missoula was as big as Lakes Erie & Ontario combined. - The flood waters ran with a force equal to 60 Amazon Rivers. - Car-sized boulders embedded in ice floated some 500 miles & can still be seen today. ■ ！Phillip│skypiolot209o1@flyers_ XnsACC4733DEDE565555@46.165.242.75 Aardvark│aardvark@aardvark_uk_ rv9mfc$l8m$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--4.30pm.Seattle.2021 Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ ld7h1gtrv4rungunqeci4u1q8bah9gebbo@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--5.29pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 13 m17 Shifty; 43.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Giganews.COM, Feb 1 { 4:33pm, 2021 }: 2^(-8) Yα5Η Google: Venezuela oil reserves. Klaus Schadenfreude replied ( to me ): > > Venezuela has more oil & gold than we do; > > I don't think, so no. Google: Venezuela oil reserves Venezuela holds 299,953,000,000 barrels of proven oil reserves as of 2016, -- ranking 1st in the world -- about 18.2% of the world's total. ■ ！Phillip│skypiolot209o1@flyers_ XnsACC4733DEDE565555@46.165.242.75 MrChrisV 6qag1g9qrqso4gmasegf9rbp45ipe78g84@4ax.com Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 1XWRH.16743$ZP.6724@fx41.iad Klaus_Schadenfreude│klaus_ 5tlg1gtdqts1go90fhuu0l3b1i495mphho@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--5.15pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m4 Shifty; 3.9 Hours, F_Agent, Giganews.COM, Feb 1 { 11:34am, 2021 }:39^(-8) YΩщХ Cancel Oprah Cancel Oprah ■ ！Phillip│skypiolot209o1@flyers_ XnsACC4733DEDE565555@46.165.242.75 Aardvark│aardvark@aardvark_uk_ rv9mfc$l8m$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--4.30pm.Seattle.2021 Alt.Computer.Workshop, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m7 Cool; 3.5 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 1 { 11:57am, 2021 }:32 YΩэν What's the alternative to capitalism, Venezuela ?! Aardvark squeaked: > Oppression by the paramilitary wing of > the elite, the police. What's the alternative to capitalism, Venezuela ?! ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--4.11pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics (Germanic) Switzerland, not Norway, gave us Einstein. (Germanic) Switzerland, not Norway, gave us Einstein, the principal founder of quantum mechanics, & Bose-Einstein condensates (lasers). He correctly modeled high-precision atomic clocks, in orbit, long before GPS systems needed it. Einstein hated the Nobel committee, & the feeling was mutual. Instead of receiving his award, Einstein toured Asia. ■ BowmanMontana i7m3p6Fp5hbU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv5dar$mko$2@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6j3j$dje$4@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.43pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7p7veFd9enU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rva0rp$ml5$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--3.58pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m139 Cool; 35.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Feb 1 { 2:54pm, 2021 }:50 YΩძo Too surreal to be heaven. RonB asked: > Name one war Iran started in the last century. I don't care who started it, I don't want to be part of it. > I lived in Washougal WA for a while, > just west of the Columbia Gorge. > > The Gorge is probably one of the most > beautiful places in the world. Understatement of the year. The Columbia River smashed through the Cascades, a huge mountain range, like it was nothing. At its mouth: pristine forests, elk & volcanoes. DemoRats destroyed Portland's elk statue. The mild climate is too surreal to be heaven. I wouldn't trade that for a blazing sun burn. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--7.07pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7plksFfm94U1@mid.individual.net Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com bjNRH.55232$xa.14161@fx47.iad TheRealSteve rv97ul$q3b$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MrChrisV n7ag1g9s0k3jkt8jijlf3rlf32uaccsvot@4ax.com Snit│Brock_McNuggets@gmail_com k3WRH.49582$Dt.11430@fx48.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--3.37pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m41 Dropped; 6.9 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Feb 1 { 8:33am, 2021 }:20 YΩЫα Careful, he might be White. Snit informs us: > Trump backed the terrorists. Don't look now but I think there's a clean-cut, married w/ children, fireman underneath your bed. Careful, he might be White. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--3.21pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics DemoRats hate Whites. DemoRats hate Whites. White DemoRats hate themselves, naturally. They hate Mayor Greg Mengarelli, Prescott AZ, for example, because he's married with 9 children ( 4 adopted, 2 grandchildren ). Greg likes mountain biking, hiking, hunting, & leading river trips down the Colorado River. The horror !! DemoRat cities are bankrupt in every sense of the word. There, 14-year-old carjackers are more of an issue. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv46oe$n4g$6@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i7m3p6Fp5hbU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv5dar$mko$2@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6j3j$dje$4@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.43pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7p7veFd9enU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--7.07pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m189 Top; 7.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 31 { 6:40pm, 2021 }:16^(-7) YΩʒϾ I've never met a white supremacist. I don't have any white friends; my closest friend is black, another is Korean. Like in São Paulo Brazil, another one of my favorite places, I mix with every nationality, every culture, every religion, every (mixed) race. Try that in China, or the Middle East ! I've never met a white supremacist; I'm not even sure they exist. Seattle is super mild. Year round, outside, I wear shorts, shoes & a T-shirt ( the shirt & shoes are optional ). At home, I wear nothing at all. I'm not afraid of weenie-ass trust fund babies who miss their moms, when venturing out of the basement. It's absolute paradise compared to the endless wars in the Middle East, under the blazing sun. China is groupthink to the extreme. ■ BowmanMontana i7m38vFp2oqU1@mid.individual.net Claude│Claude@skiers_org lwlRH.83436$zK1.35219@fx46.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv5d6t$mko$1@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6j04$dje$3@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.38pm.Seattle.2021 pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv7ce6$nen$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--3.17pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m59 Mad; 1.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 31 { 2:53pm, 2021 }:58 YΩɬჴ Venezuela is our guide ! "pothead" says: > When I see investments increasing in value > that is real to me. Venezuela is our guide ! Venezuela has more oil & gold than we do; yet they can't produce a gallon of gas because everyone is a whiny little trust fund baby who feels entitled, like Karl Marx, oblivious to the tragedy of the commons. Again: If Democrats manage to make our planet unproductive, like Venezuela, they'll have achieved the inflation that they so -desperately desired ( to wipe out their debt ). It's tent city... until World War III, " All against All ", as Putin put it. > I don't like Trump. He's a narcisscist, a liar, > a corrupt & (somewhat) inept businessman. He's an old man, with a super-tall 14 year-old, who isn't afraid of the Wu-Flu. > Get ready to become dependent on foreign oil again. > And that is just the start of it. Most definitely. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv42uj$n4g$2@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv43r8$pjb$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv46oe$n4g$6@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i7m3p6Fp5hbU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv5dar$mko$2@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6j3j$dje$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.43pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m58 Mad; 6.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 31 { 7:41am, 2021 }:39 YΩaს The Middle East has been at war for thousands of years. The Middle East has been at war for thousands of years; it's kind of their thing, to be honest. I'll take Seattle's mild climate & (relative) peace over that any day. ■ Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com qS_QH.3673$fs1.141@fx36.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv403b$2br$1@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i7m38vFp2oqU1@mid.individual.net Claude│Claude@skiers_org lwlRH.83436$zK1.35219@fx46.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rv5d6t$mko$1@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6j04$dje$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.38pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m58 Mad; 6.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 31 { 7:39am, 2021 }:48 YΩaϓ Putin is a fucking genius. Putin is a fucking genius. Trump was right to like him. "pothead" says: > The media will continue to focus on Trump and ignore Biden " Point to the place on the doll where he touched you ". ■ ！Felix_Unger│ungermatic99r MPG.3a80952b1f94870a9896fe@nntp.aioe.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv6jqf$dje$6@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i7oe1hF8fueU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--2.29pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m187 Top; 3.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 31 { 11:17am, 2021 }:39^(-7) YΩȾს All against All. Bowman notes: > The circus comes to town every four years > [ to fool the hoi polloi into thinking > that someone gives a shit about them ]. Voting doesn't work. I don't vote like I don't gamble, it's not my thing. If Democrats manage to make our planet unproductive, like Venezuela, they'll have achieved the inflation that they so -desperately desired ( to wipe out their debt ). This is what happens when you reward vice & punish virtue. Too many trust fund babies, Karl Marx copycats, oblivious to the tragedy of the commons. It's tent city... until World War III, " All against All ", as Putin put it. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--10.44pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics World War III The Great Depressiculton was just that: a depression. People simply stopped working. They squatted. This is what happens when you reward vice & punish virtue. If World War II hadn't happened, we'd still be in a funk. NewsFlash: Landlords won't work for free, they won't be enslaved. Taxes aren't paid, repairs aren't made, when no one gets paid. Already, Seattle is -defaulting in every sense of the word. Bank Balance Sheets are as phony as a 3 $ bill. It's tent city... until World War III, " All against All ", as Putin put it. "Woke" people, like Bill Gates, blame everything on a virus; as if bad behavior never ever matters. " Go ahead ", they say, " 'borrow' (steal) as much as you want, spend it as you please, no need to work, no need to jail Squatters/ThievingJunkies. " " Reward Vice, Punish Virtue. ". Such are the tenets of Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult. Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby, would approve. Nothing short of WW III could snap them out of it. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--10.43pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy World War III The Great Depression was just that: a depression. People simply stopped working. They squatted. hall This is what happens when you reward vice & punish virtue. If World War II hadn't happened, we'd still be in a funk. NewsFlash: Landlords won't work for free, they won't be enslaved. Taxes aren't paid, repairs aren't made, when no one gets paid. Already, Seattle is -defaulting in every sense of the word. Bank Balance Sheets are as phony as a 3 $ bill. It's tent city... until World War III, " All against All ", as Putin put it. "Woke" people, like Bill Gates, blame everything on a virus; as if bad behavior never ever matters. " Go ahead ", they say, " 'borrow' (steal) as much as you want, spend it as you please, no need to work, no need to jail Squatters/ThievingJunkies. " " Reward Vice, Punish Virtue. ". Such are the tenets of Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult. Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby, would approve. Nothing short of WW III could snap them out of it. ■ FabianRussell rupqgm01f27@news2.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i7c6bhFr3p6U1@mid.individual.net Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat slrns18pl1.18u.sc@scarpet42p.localdomain BowmanMontana i7k39vFd3ekU1@mid.individual.net Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat slrns1ancm.1bf.sc@scarpet42p.localdomain BowmanMontana i7lsghFnq11U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--3.05pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m179 Top; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 30 { : 6pm, 2021 }:10^(-7) YΨβA VAX APL TTY: .AL ALpha 1981, Provo Utah, BYU, I didn't need an APL keybord; a standard VAX terminal was enough. VAX APL TTY: .AL ALpha, α ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--1.07pm.Seattle.2021 ！Idaho_Homo_Joe│dick_lick@aol_ rv4ifl$1loc$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--1.43pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m7 Dropped; 7.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jan 30 { 1:19pm, 2021 }:10^(-5) YΨξȼ No one is getting paid these days. "Homo_Joe" confessed: > Nobody wants to hear my bullshit, nobody. > I'm a SlumChump faggot ! > sucking my housemates' penises for free. No one is getting paid these days; so that's par for the course, Suzie. > Why don't I just step in front of > a speeding train and end it, already, > instead of crying like a little cunt ? Fine but don't dirty a train like that; there are better/nicer ways. Hanging is popular. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--1.09pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics You can't buy it. DemoRat cities/states lost touch with reality. No one is getting paid, nothing is getting done, Venezuelan style ( where no one produces anything ). Rent is free, Venezuelan style; so you can't buy it; instead, people pitch tents in parks. Big Media, Bill Gates & Jeff Bezos are lost causes. Fortunately, they're dying off & GenZ doesn't need our advice. I blame the whole HIV/AIDS debacle on the bad behavior of people in the early 1980's, cocaine & butt-sex. But "woke" people, like Bill Gates, blame it on a virus; as if bad behavior never ever matters. " Go ahead ", they say, " 'borrow' (steal) as much as you want, spend it as you please, no need to work, no need to jail Squatters/ThievingJunkies. " " Reward Vice, Punish Virtue. ". Such are the tenets of Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult. Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby, would approve. Nothing short of WW III could snap them out of it. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ruvsa7$3u3$3@dont-email.me MrChrisV qc281gh4oalcgllcpci35afjkrdn41nio3@4ax.com BowmanMontana i7imhdF4ofkU2@mid.individual.net pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv18tv$iuv$2@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rv1b79$t6t$15@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rv1h5r$ba8$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.29--11.41am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m41 Cool; 1.2 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 29 { 9:38am, 2021 }: 3 YΧжɻ GenZ doesn't need my advice. "pothead" noticed: > In November, there were Trump signs and rallys in > the Jewish neighborhoods which is something never > seen before, as Jews tend to vote Democrat. Big Media, Bill Gates & Jeff Bezos are lost causes. Fortunately, they're dying off, & GenZ doesn't need my advice. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--1.01pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Reward Vice, Punish Virtue. I blame the whole HIV/AIDS debacle on the bad behavior of people in the early 1980's, cocaine & butt-sex. But "woke" people, like Bill Gates, blame it on a virus; as if bad behavior never ever matters. " Go ahead ", they say, " 'borrow' (steal) as much as you want, spend it as you please, no need to work, no need to jail Squatters/ThievingJunkies. " " Reward Vice, Punish Virtue. ". Such are the tenets of Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult. Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby, would approve. Nothing short of WW III could snap them out of it. ■ FabianRussell rupqgm01f27@news2.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i7c6bhFr3p6U1@mid.individual.net FabianRussell rusupc0va5@news3.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i7evqhFd5jvU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--9.34pm.Seattle.2021 BowmanMontana i7g31uFjqqtU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--10.24am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m154 Mad; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 28 { 7:21am, 2021 }: 3^(-7) YΧXΘ PreSupposing what (retarded) users want. Thanks for your response, Bowman. I hope you're not working for a bankrupt/blue city like Seattle. Seattle's teachers, jailers & judges use Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult as an excuse to steal... ....to default, to do nothing except "borrowing" money to enrich themselves. Their children ( thieving junkies ) do the same, but on a much smaller scale. > Node and Angular for browser based apps. In my experience, JavaScript is used to animate webpages in the most annoying way possible, PreSupposing what (retarded) users want. ■ TheRealSteve ruq6td$131$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 07fedf9b-08ea-44be-8694-2279d50fd9a9n@googlegroups.com MrChrisV bnr21g1qprvcsc7607qhefngcshidibv81@4ax.com BowmanMontana i7ddbdF3sigU1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve rus4sj$e4f$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org BowmanMontana i7f03jFd5jvU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--9.37pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m150 Mad; 6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 27 { 9:24pm, 2021 }:37^(-7) YΦдb What countries have you lived in ? Bowman (Montana) opined: > John Brennan should be managing > a landfill in Cidade de Deus. How many languages do you speak ? What countries have you lived in ? ■ FabianRussell runkna09s5@news3.newsguy.com Jim_Jackson│jj@franjam_org_uk slrns10gft.b3i.jj@iridium.wf32df FabianRussell rupqgm01f27@news2.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i7c6bhFr3p6U1@mid.individual.net FabianRussell rusupc0va5@news3.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i7evqhFd5jvU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--9.34pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m150 Mad; 10.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 27 { 9:19pm, 2021 }:46^(-7) YΦгɪ What does it do ? Who is it for ? Bowman (Montana) informed us: > I will be writing C code tomorrow. What does it do ? Who is it for ? ■ MrChrisV 92vt0gd3pkcto6kc7q7hcul5do65enj27s@4ax.com TheRealSteve rumv2m$hoh$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org invalid│invalid@email_net wEFPH.711$nB3.436@fx08.iad MrChrisV 16901gtem6fl5hv1dt62baqmavugpkhg38@4ax.com MrChrisV 8sa01g9j5uqec54ua1pash0qod0l1trjbr@4ax.com TheRealSteve rupefq$mur$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--8.32am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m70 Cool; 13.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 26 { 8: 3am, 2021 }: 7 YΥЦΜ People vote with their wallets & their feet. Voting doesn't work. Seattle voted in pansies who'd ask rioters " How does this make you feel ? ", shortly before getting their heads cut off. No, people vote with their wallets & their feet. ■ This video, from Nicole Arbour, explains why China is -not winning. Anyone who disagrees with the CCP finds himself tortured to "death", like Jack Ma... a lose-lose scenario. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWb4O7NW9Cs China lacks diversity of opinion. The CCP is thee -only religion; everything else is heresy. America looks to China for guidance, thinking, " Let's try that ! ". ■ ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rufapr$16m4$1@gioia.aioe.org ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rufau8$16m4$2@gioia.aioe.org ！Elwood_Buettner│nndcp@hsgw2ft_ rufkcl$179q$1@gioia.aioe.org ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rufvig$sk6$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--7.15pm.Seattle.2021 ！Elwood_Buettner│nndcp@hsgw2ft_ ruhv2g$11pi$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--0.23pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics ╳ 1 m7 Dropped; 14.4 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPod, Aioe.ORG, Jan 23 { 11:57am, 2021 }: 5 YΣэΚ Welcome to WW III. > The Internationale "Интернационал" - Russian Version Rich White Kids, Portland & Seattle, are LARP'ing as poor Blacks. Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby, whiny little bitch, failed to understand: The tragedy of the commons. Welcome to yet another anti-prohibition, FDR-style depression, followed by WW III. This is what happens when you reward vice and punish virtue. ■ TheRealSteve ruf95p$3at$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann ruf9g2$jlj$1@dont-email.me coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker oeam0g9rsmc21a6bi9d98ql8d8rev0ng5v@4ax.com Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann ruf9rj$jlj$2@dont-email.me Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com OaHOH.1654$NJ2.517@fx06.iad TheRealSteve rufggu$45t$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--7.26pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m62 Cool; 5.7 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 22 { 1:36pm, 2021 }:30 YΣɠU Democrats destroy everything they touch. It's a brave new world, Trump is gone. Democrats destroy everything they touch. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--8.17am.Seattle.2021 Clutter_Freak│ d00886b1-15fc-4324-ad70-eff1b32373ebn@googlegroups.com ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rufapr$16m4$1@gioia.aioe.org ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rufau8$16m4$2@gioia.aioe.org ！Elwood_Buettner│nndcp@hsgw2ft_ rufkcl$179q$1@gioia.aioe.org ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rufvig$sk6$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--7.15pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics ╳ 1 m64 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jan 22 { 5:53pm, 2021 }:22^(-6) YΣʊა Democrats bankrupted everything they touched. > Elwood's commie state IS FALLING APART ! Democrats bankrupted everything they touched. Only red states are fiscally responsible. Only red states punish vice & reward virtue. Even with Trump at its head, the deep state remained dark blue, pro-government, pro-union... not at all red. ■ TheRealSteve rucbg7$9t6$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 5cd81a7f-b857-4d9b-bb84-26164dbd341an@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rucmpc$u2d$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rud7nf$q9p$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV 1ljl0gdn216ueh7rm9389v8tba5n9t75hk@4ax.com pothead│pothead@snakebite_com ruel6l$ile$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--8.14am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m11 Shifty; 2.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 22 { 5:50am, 2021 }:13 YΣIʅ Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult will crumble. Bill Gates' Branch Covidian Cult will crumble once it becomes clear that the rioters/looters hate Democrats just as much as they hate Trump. This is what happens when you reward vice & punish virtue. It's hard to see how things could get better when people aren't paying property taxes, fire insurance, mortgages, or maintenance. ■ TheRealSteve rucbg7$9t6$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 5cd81a7f-b857-4d9b-bb84-26164dbd341an@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rucmpc$u2d$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger ef18793e-d268-4ba8-898d-14ef6e064bdbn@googlegroups.com Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com 8jnOH.36653$4d1.23091@fx47.iad TheRealSteve rud0jb$gqv$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--2.59pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m54 Cool; 6 Secs, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 21 { 2:52pm, 2021 }:27 YΡϓЙ The Branch Covidian cult. Snit & Hugh Huntzinger are devout members of the Branch Covidian cult... you can't deprogram them. " The left went from ' keep religion out of government at all costs ' to ' the government is our religion '. " -- Facetious Libertarian ■ HughHuntzinger b09be658-3ab0-43ca-8c36-ab8cdecf5158n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve ruc0dm$ovc$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger eae63f45-5b3a-4bed-a783-bd1ecc285838n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve ruc2r5$ovc$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger cb48fb72-5367-4029-8ec5-0da6faed9834n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve ruc53g$ovc$9@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--9.42am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m46 Cool; 2.4 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 21 { 7: 3am, 2021 }:13 YΡʖΣ Kneel before Zod. Joe Biden & Hugh Huntzinger must be using the same dictionary. Under "unite", it says: " Kneel before Zod ". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFyHTU8tg_0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xUiCNlDeJk ■ MontanaJoe ru4gnj$2dh$3@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i6n164Fmi8dU1@mid.individual.net MontanaJoe ru74vl$v1m$3@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i6pp5oF8djhU1@mid.individual.net MontanaJoe ru8c8q$5ih$2@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i6qvlqFflo8U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--11.05am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m137 Cool; 3.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 20 { 7:14am, 2021 }:33^(-7) YΠОʙ Rich White Kids, Portland & Seattle. Bowman (Montana) mentioned a: > hippie commune, Fruitlands, in 1843. Rich White Kids, Portland & Seattle, are LARP'ing as poor Blacks. Karl Marx, the original trust fund baby, whiny little bitch, failed to understand: The tragedy of the commons. ■ Nobody_you_know│nobody@nowhere_ ru9dka$feg$1@dont-email.me Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com hleg0g1m9ddj515igmrcc3b2n4bqfk26ee@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6qu90FfchfU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--10.55am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 7 m137 Cool; 4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 20 { 6:50am, 2021 }:40^(-7) YΠКʠ This is what happens when you reward vice and punish virtue. Bowman (Montana) opined: > Biden is Clinton/Obama III. > I hope you like useless wars and domestic chaos. Welcome to yet another anti-prohibition, FDR-style depression, followed by WW III. This is what happens when you reward vice and punish virtue. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--7.52pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics "Stimulus" is 1984-Speak for "Financial Heroin". "Stimulus" is 1984-Speak for "Financial Heroin". ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ru39te$vr$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 2c8808e0-70b0-4a55-ada4-883d71ddf225n@googlegroups.com coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker puib0gtsfti3pqdcjrescdu9v6k4pmqp8i@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--10.06am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m36 Cool; 2.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 18 { 10: am, 2021 }:12^(-8) YΟΕC Do your diapers need changing ? An anonymous coward/pansy admitted: > I tie myself into little knots and > don't even see how ridiculous I sound. Cool, now we're getting somewhere. Do your diapers need changing ? ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--9.48am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics It feels good to be bad. The vaccine kills old people faster than Covid itself; most people don't want it, not even healthcare workers. Bill Gates championed the Covid pseudo-science cult/excuse, & Jeff Bezos enforces it; no dissent allowed. We don't have to be morally upright; no need to eat right & exercise; better to blame it on a virus. Instead of living healthier lives & working harder, we loot everything, including our children's futures. We reward looters, drug abusers & squatters, & punish workers... just as anti-prohibition FDR did; World War II saved our asses. And, if you agree with the above, you're a racist, a menace to society, a lunatic, a deplorable, an anti-science conspiracy theorist, etc. . But, on the other hand, I don't mind a bit of vice myself; it feels good to be bad. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ru1ev0$e8i$1@dont-email.me coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker m6n80gliq052b2vscf6lb3a841e5fil6bn@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6jdldF14sgU1@mid.individual.net HughHuntzinger 35333227-9f5e-4313-aeac-b6cb957e5a29n@googlegroups.com coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker bi290gd287odlpfd10fpgieb0dt09nli5k@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.21am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m32 Shifty; 1.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 17 { 11:10am, 2021 }:30^(-8) YΞхМ Science has nothing to do with it. Science has nothing to do with Hugh Huntzinger's -belief- that borrowing from our children's future, -- instead of strengthening our moral character -- is the solution to our problems ( skyrocketing homicides, looting with abandon, overdosing & depression, squatting, insane borrowing etc. ). ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--10.54am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Eviction Moratoriums incite abuse. Eviction Moratoriums incite abuse, same as divorce prohibition. When Judges let everyone out of jail, as in Seattle, we get: https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/23905.jpeg Congratulations Seattle ! you've devolved the most. The solution is to make squatting & looting less rewarding than working. Currently, it's the other way around, FDR style. Today's environment is similar to the Great Depression, when the pendulum swung away from prohibition. If it wasn't for World War II, our nation would not of recovered. "Covid" ( i.e. borrowing to spend ) is the sole "religion" ( doomsday cult, really ) allowed in The People's (Banana) Republic of America. Dissenters are banned, deplatformed, demonetized, "canceled", & prevented from doing business online. Androids & iPhones are the front end, & they deleted Parler from "our" phones. Amazon Web Services is the back end, & they shut Parler down. Together, they're Big Media, the equivalent of Kim JongUn in Korea. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--10.52am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Eviction Moratoriums incite abuse. Eviction Moratoriums incite abuse, same as divorce prohibition. When Judges let everyone out of jail, like in Seattle, we get: https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/23905.jpeg Congratulations Seattle ! you've devolved the most. The solution is to make squatting & looting less rewarding than working. Currently, it's the other way around, FDR style. Today's environment is similar to the Great Depression, when the pendulum swung away from prohibition. If it wasn't for World War II, our nation would not of recovered. "Covid" ( i.e. borrowing to spend ) is the sole "religion" ( doomsday cult, really ) allowed in The People's (Banana) Republic of America. Dissenters are banned, deplatformed, demonetized, "canceled", & prevented from doing business online. Androids & iPhones are the front end, & they deleted Parler from "our" phones. Amazon Web Services is the back end, & they shut Parler down. Together, they're Big Media, the equivalent of Kim JongUn in Korea. ■ coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker gbd60gtip6vqgpn3n0e8e77f36vja5n6b5@4ax.com MrChrisV tgh60g1okn8ljotah6flv325d3em5m8572@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6h5q6Fic37U1@mid.individual.net coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker j7070gpl2e1c6crfnpjuv1783fbssccotp@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6hhabFkebkU1@mid.individual.net coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker nv570gpqlpq0pbk52lhesnvrsg6k74acl8@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--10.31pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m28 Shifty; 4.1 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 16 { 5:56pm, 2021 }:27^(-8) YΞʋʓ The People's Republic of America. "Covid" ( i.e. borrowing to spend ) is the sole "religion" ( doomsday cult, really ) allowed in The People's (Banana) Republic of America. Dissenters are banned, deplatformed, demonetized, "canceled", & prevented from doing business online. The fact that some anonymous coward, a fucking little pansy, on USENET, approves of this is hardly shocking. The little sucker needs his diaper changed, right ?! ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3a6b73aebc31b788989e71@news.alt.net Raven│raven@invalid_invalid rtslo9$gd1$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--11.03am.Seattle.2021 PeeScent dppemm.tpu.19.1@news.alt.net Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net rttdpr$kgo$1@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3a6cb24e26ed19b4989e92@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--10.30am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m17 Cool; 2 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Jan 16 { 8:21am, 2021 }: 5^(-8) YΞhΚ Checkmate is depressed. FYI, I don't know Checkmate's Filipina ex-wife from Adam. It's not unreasonable to think that Checkmate might know something about her... I was just curious. Checkmate is depressed, if you ask me. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.01am.Seattle.2021 coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker sbs40g1r6l2v61d247j34m3u2bjp1lf228@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.46pm.Seattle.2021 coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker doa50gljbnk9dfn51h49sstbda6joanhb1@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--6.41am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m21 Shifty; 5 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 16 { 1:15am, 2021 }:45^(-8) YΝლϐ ZeroHedge is banned from PayPal & visa. > You don't watch sports of any kind; Yep. > you don't watch any television shows, Almost no TV shows. I like Westworld; it appears briefly, once every 2 years. I don't own a TV, of course. TV is for morons. > you don't read the news at all. Nothing like what you're thinking of. ZeroHedge.COM, Dilbert, Ben Garrison, Lisa Benson, Gary Varvel, Al Goodwyn, Michael Ramirez & Ripley's. ZeroHedge is banned from PayPal & visa; no Big Media advertisers. > You never watch YouTube. On YouTube, I mostly watch little guys, with little-to-no funding/monetization; the opposite of Big Media. > You've never bought anything over the internet. I'm a fan of Amazon Fresh, regular Amazon, &, occasionally, Walmart. They never asked me if I liked Trump or not. So far, they haven't asked me to bend the knee before the Covid/climate doomsday cult. I search for what I want & I'm good at it. If the world was like me, Amazon wouldn't advertise. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.01am.Seattle.2021 coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker sbs40g1r6l2v61d247j34m3u2bjp1lf228@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.46pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 2 m20 Shifty; 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 15 { 9: pm, 2021 }:16^(-8) YΝаG JonesTown Kool-Aid. An anonymous coward/pansy replied ( to me ): > > In America, Big Media pulls the strings; > > in North Korea, a little fat man does it. > > Big media gives the audience what it wants Big Media thinks I enjoy JonesTown Kool-Aid. They're wrong. ■ B1ackwater│bw@magikbeanz_net 4s220gt4d4v97fd9pnjfp9c1u4t30liulo@4ax.com PeeScent dpnppq.ii6.19.3@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3a6ac538a2dc1045989e6c@news.alt.net PeeScent dpp3oq.do8.19.1@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3a6b73aebc31b788989e71@news.alt.net Raven│raven@invalid_invalid rtslo9$gd1$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--11.03am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m1 Shifty; 51.4 Minutes, MesNews, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 15 { 10: 9am, 2021 }:11^(-5) YΝΖΠ Checkmate's Filipina ex-wife. What is your Filipina ex-wife, and her family, doing these days Checkmate ?! ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.55am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Whammin don't pursue orgasms. Whammin don't pursue orgasms for the same reason that men don't pursue money... it comes effortlessly. ■ People aren't having babies anymore because the alternatives are -better-; divorce is ultra easy & porn is free. My 75 $ White Tenga Flip Zero, from Japan: http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC Supposedly, it only works 50 times. I bought it two years ago, Jan 11, 2019; it never broke. It flips open, splitting in two; paper towels clean it, easily. The suction is mind-boggling; it never falls off, nor does it ever leak, and you don't have to hold it, it feels good just being attached, so one can edge for hours. Initially, the clip was hard to put on, but I've since mastered it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.01am.Seattle.2021 Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rtrtbq$pvr$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.32am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m49 Dropped; 14.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 15 { 3:12am, 2021 }:58^(1) YΝɰw Big Media censorship amplifies Trump's voice. Peter Köhlmann wishes: > You're bitter because Trump can't post his garbage anymore. Big Media censorship amplifies Trump's voice. " Companies [ like "Signal.ORG" ] that use end-to-end encryption are unable to hand over texts of their customers' messages to the authorities. " https://assets.amuniversal.com/ba6e9b6038a50139429c005056a9545d https://assets.amuniversal.com/68e05a003914013942dc005056a9545d ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.04am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Big Media In America, Big Media pulls the strings. In North Korea, a little fat man does it. ■ Nobody_you_know│nobody@nowhere_ rtkkqe$8si$1@dont-email.me coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker rqivvf98ur2r3947a6eaas94rao7uintp2@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--1.02am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m9 Shifty; 3.1 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 13 { 8:49pm, 2021 }:25^(-8) YΜʨɕ Anonymous cowards/pansies are legion. You ( an anonymous coward/pansy ) are deathly afraid of a stupid flu virus. And you are legion. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtij7o$t6e$6@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i64l4pF3vn1U1@mid.individual.net HughHuntzinger 2d801126-728b-4891-aa1b-8d4a274f47f9n@googlegroups.com coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker qeivvfdag9k73gu5e5jhu3i5bdcvubhqa4@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.53am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m9 Shifty; 3.3 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 13 { 8:38pm, 2021 }:53^(-8) YΜʦʭ Our little chew toy. An anonymous coward wrote: > I don't know what to say. > I never imagined I'd see such stupidity in my lifetime. Whatever you say can & will be used against you, to mock you -- you're our little chew toy. ■ MontanaJoe rtimg7$4r0$8@dont-email.me Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid 57ppvfdt3srv8heu6lmk3ujsmqsbjvak1i@4ax.com MontanaJoe rtkplm$qht$3@dont-email.me ScottDoty i66ltqFf1c3U5@mid.individual.net MontanaJoe rtl9ug$tth$4@dont-email.me coffee_drinker│coffee_drinker fphvvftu6grr03615ukth45efump8mot5a@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.44am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh ╱ 7 m9 Shifty; 3.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 13 { 8:32pm, 2021 }:23^(-8) YΜʥʏ Mocking Anonymous Cowards. An anonymous coward wrote: > Trump supporters, not Antifa or BLM, > stormed the capital of the United States of America. Actually, the capital police were just giving them a guided tour. This Trump supporter is hardly Seal Team 6, Special Forces: https://twitter.com/felonious_munk/status/1346970860758970368 Rudely, they shot her. Besides, what are you Democrats going to do about it ?! You're all talk and no action, like a yappy little dog. The only thing you're good at is doing nothing. > I hope the senate convicts Trump of sedition. Try pulling your head out of your ass first, you fucking clown -- the world is laughing at you. > That he called for this as a sitting president > of the United States makes this much worse. You're living in a fantasy dream world, where everyone loves you. Wake up ! > there is little to no point in > having any discussion with me. Yet here we are, mocking you, the anonymous coward. > Chairman Xi, operating his Biden puppet, > could tell me elephants fly & I'd buy it. Sure, everything is fine in your dream world. ■ Jonathan│LSA@UMich_edu QqSdndfaCJ4Cq2PCnZ2dnUU7-W3NnZ2d@giganews.com B1ackwater│bw@magikbeanz_net gqosvfligeg0m0cjq0bek0be5s9gak7i86@4ax.com MontanaJoe rtnm08$du4$5@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rtnoit$76i$1@dont-email.me Leper│Leper@MalokaiColony_com rtnspv$463$1@dont-email.me MontanaJoe rtojfe$drm$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.11am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Talk.Politics.Misc, Misc.Survivalism ╱ 3 m91 Cool; 2.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 13 { 9: 5pm, 2021 }:53^(-7) YΜʪჯ Democrats & Republicans would divorce, if they could. Democrats & Republicans would divorce, if they could. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.41pm.Seattle.2021 MontanaJoe rtkkb8$vdg$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--10.02am.Seattle.2021 MontanaJoe rtkpgi$qht$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--10.31am.Seattle.2021 MontanaJoe rtl9ok$tth$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--3.52pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m84 Cool; 25.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 12 { 3: 1pm, 2021 }:46^(-7) YΛϖɪ What website ? MontanaJoe replied ( to me ): > > What are you talking about, exactly ?! > > FireFox isn't suppressing me, quite the opposite. > > It did with me going to certain websites. > Never could get in. > Turned around and used dissenter and it worked fine. What website ? No such problems here. I'm a bit of an expert, when it comes to the web, even if I do say so myself. If Firefox gives me trouble, for whatever reason, usually my fault, I just switch to Giigle Chrome or " Firefox.EXE -safe-mode -no-remote ". ■ BowmanMontana i61aecFeh93U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--1.43pm.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com h6hLH.226$h42.159@fx13.iad BowmanMontana i65trqFblhdU4@mid.individual.net Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com b8pLH.18$wx.13@fx02.iad ！Clogger│cloggermcsoapy rtl7kb$1ec8$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--3.38pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m2 Dropped; 1 Hours, Xnews, Aioe.ORG, Jan 12 { 2:25pm, 2021 }:15 YΛωɁ Snit's Willful Ignorance. Clogger asked "Snit": > As far as BLM is concerned, > you are either black or you are a useful idiot. > > Which one are you ? He thinks he's black but he's really the idiot. To be fair, he probably just doesn't care about what I'm going through, here in Seattle. Willful ignorance. ■ MontanaJoe rthu83$f2j$2@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtihef$t6e$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.58pm.Seattle.2021 Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rtjp31$9sr$1@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rtkmik$mnc$3@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rtkn04$aig$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--10.18am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m26 Cool; 4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 12 { 9:41am, 2021 }:24 YΛΑგ Germany still has plenty of goose-stepping Nazis. Steve asked Peter Köhlmann: > > > > What about the 74 million Trump voters ?! > > > > They are not even fit to serve as fertilizer > > What can you do with that scum ? Pig fodder ? > > Gas chambers ? Germany still has plenty of goose-stepping Nazis, I see. ■ ScottDoty i63v0iFsumgU18@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--0.22am.Seattle.2021 TheRealSteve rtklu3$aig$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--10.12am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh ╱ 4 m26 Cool; 22.1 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 12 { 9:23am, 2021 }:15 YΛʭщ DemoRats are all bark and no bite. Steve replied ( to me ): > > Judges have emptied the jails; > > Not to worry, that 'housing' won't go > unused for long, there are plenty > of political prisoners on the horizon. More likely, they'll continue doing nothing. DemoRats are all bark and no bite. ■ ScottDoty i64soqF2qnjU5@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.00pm.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i65bpsF85lhU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--5.07am.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i65o0gF8h1qU9@mid.individual.net HughHuntzinger fe5e9e47-6855-4bd8-9d34-dc6e39519be5n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--9.55am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m108 Dropped; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, 6.50.51.211, Jan 12 { 8:25am, 2021 }: 8^(PST) YΛʤȺ The 36 trillion $$$ that's been printed. If you want your healthcare to be run like The Post Office, move to Canada. 1930-1941, FDR punished workers & reward squatters; hence the "Hoovervilles" & the Great Depression. The 36 trillion $$$ that's been printed since Dec 2008 is nothing to be proud of. It destroys small businesses & turns large businesses into zombies that can't compete on the world market. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtea4t$uhe$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty i604mjF771cU1@mid.individual.net BowmanMontana i60v37Fcc85U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--11.57am.Seattle.2021 onion@anon_invalid(Mr_Ön!on 1p2wbke.15oyvga1ipayraN%onion@anon.invalid ScottDoty i65r18FaqdkU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--7.10am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m43 Cool; 2.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 12 { 6:46am, 2021 }: YΛʓϠ ProReGressives eventually figure it out. My Vittles Vault is a pet food container that blocks 100 % of the smell. My room smells good. It's superior to your bathroom, Scott Doty; better than anything Bill Gates, with all his $$$, could possibly imagine. Once every 5 weeks, I empty the contents into a contractor bag, & put it in the dumpster. I'm staying in Seattle, despite the Great Depression that you guys are creating, because I don't need money the way "richer" idiots do. Despite its many faults, I prefer Seattle. ProReGressives are reckless reality avoiders, but they eventually figure it out. ■ ScottDoty i62uu9FmrlgU8@mid.individual.net onion@anon_invalid(Mr_On!on 1p2ue5i.ss9n9e19iq53mN%onion@anon.invalid ScottDoty i64tu1F2qnjU8@mid.individual.net Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid gkiqvfh56ftiob31p7d6ckdnkp45naljnk@4ax.com ScottDoty i65do2F8h1qU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--5.33am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Talk.Politics.Misc, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m41 Cool; 1.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 12 { 2:59am, 2021 }:14 YΛɭш DemoRats never met a vice they didn't love. Scott Doty replied ( to Skeeter ): > > You were for bailing out thugs this summer. > > Nope. Never was. > If you think otherwise, please cite the MID. Your cult, of which you are a faithful member, rewards society's worst behaviors. DemoRats never met a vice they didn't love. What happened to freedom of religion, Chairman Xi ?! must we all join labor camps now, producing iPhones, because we don't agree with your absurd agenda ? ■ ScottDoty i63v0iFsumgU18@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--0.22am.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i65fejF8h1qU5@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--5.25am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh ╱ 2 m41 Cool; 1.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 12 { 3:28am, 2021 }:19 YΛɲБ Scott Doty has no fucking clue. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > Judges have emptied the jails; > > now, whacked out tweakers control the streets, > > burning down buildings, looting whatever, whenever. > > Who pays you, Jeff ? Because this is just > astroturf claptrap for the teeming MAGA hoards. You have no bloody clue, you fat, rich bastard. I'm telling you the actual truth; no one can buy me. You can't simultaneously punish workers & reward squatters, looters & arsonists without expecting a Great Depression, FDR style, 1929 to 1941, followed by World War III. > > Fortunately, Biden is taking this wonderfulness > > to the rest of the nation, so 74 million Trump > > voters can experience it themselves, locally. > > So who pays you, Jeff ? Same deal. What flavor of Kool-Aid you are you drinking today, Scottie ? I hope your blinders aren't on too tight. In Chicago, teenage murders kill 46x faster than Covid; in San Francisco, overdosing kills 4x faster. But you can't see that because it doesn't fit the agenda of your stupid-ass doomsday - CULT -. > > Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens; > > hence nothing is happening; it's a total default. > > Next, after the Marxist plunder, comes World War III. > > You're either with cozybear or -- if you're lucky -- > just a harmless alarmist. Or not. Don't care. You have no fucking clue, Scott. Enjoy the Kool-Aid. ■ Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com GWHKH.147009$OX1.23443@fx07.iad BowmanMontana i61aecFeh93U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--1.43pm.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i64soqF2qnjU5@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.00pm.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i65bpsF85lhU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--5.07am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m41 Cool; 2.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 12 { 2:26am, 2021 }: 4 YΛɨɼ Creating The Great Depression. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > That's going to last, I'm sure; > > until World War III "saves" them. > > Have you considered the economies and > governments of other first-world countries ? > Germany ? France ? or ... ? They'll be in the war too, duh. > You may be sounding a false alarm; > that's all I'm saying. We have a good 10+ years to go, I think, like FDR had in 1930; -- time enough to punish workers & reward squatters/Hoovervilles, creating the Great Depression. ■ ScottDoty i604mjF771cU1@mid.individual.net BowmanMontana i60v37Fcc85U1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV fhjmvflaofroigbvoamov9vi2ca82n5qfo@4ax.com BowmanMontana i61agvFeh93U2@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtg07a$isj$2@dont-email.me ScottDoty i64t93F2qnjU6@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--0.54am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m38 Cool; 2.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 10:18pm, 2021 }:11 YΛȵB Scott Doty describes Black Lives Matter. Scott Doty wants us to believe: > The banned list is: > > Coordinated harmful activity > Harming Civic integrity > Hateful conduct > Glorification of violence > Violent threats > Discussing Sensitive media You just described Black Lives Matter to a T. That shit is promoted, not banned. ■ ScottDoty i63v0iFsumgU18@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--0.22am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh ╱ 3 m34 Cool; 8.5 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 1:41pm, 2021 }:38 YΚპრ After the Marxist plunder, comes World War III. Scott Doty informs us: > people of color, and Native Americans, > reimagine public safety with less focus on police. Judges emptied the jails; now, whacked out tweakers control the streets, burning down buildings, looting whatever, whenever. Fortunately, Biden is taking this wonderfulness to the rest of the nation, so 74 million Trump voters can experience it for themselves, locally. Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens; hence, nothing is happening; it's a total default. Next, after the Marxist plunder, comes World War III. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtg07a$isj$2@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i61gffFfm80U1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV 2cdovfpg6r5un2fahvjvn7hohlur428fjd@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6382bFq2m3U1@mid.individual.net MontanaJoe rthu83$f2j$2@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtihef$t6e$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.58pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 8 m87 Cool; 8.3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 11 { 1:54pm, 2021 }:23 YΚსN Nice labor camps. RonB replied ( to Bowman ): > > Apple instigated shutting down Parler's AWS services. > > Nice "little" Communist corporation. > Highly reliant on Chinese slave labor. What about those 74 million Trump voters ?! Apple might put them in some nice labor camps, lowering their costs even further. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtg07a$isj$2@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i61gffFfm80U1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV 2cdovfpg6r5un2fahvjvn7hohlur428fjd@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6382bFq2m3U1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV ro1pvfhkmjed1hgkajhnfaovhscnjuegtj@4ax.com BowmanMontana i64kmqF3takU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.49pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m110 Cool; 2.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 7:52pm, 2021 }:23^(-7) YΛcЕ (p2p) USENET and random Discord servers. Bowman (Montana) notes: > I'm sure there will be other obstacles like domain > registrars, credit card processing, and so forth > but Parler will be back bigger and badder than ever. I much prefer (p2p) USENET and random Discord servers. As soon as you start chasing money, you've already lost the game. ■ BowmanMontana i61gffFfm80U1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV 2cdovfpg6r5un2fahvjvn7hohlur428fjd@4ax.com BowmanMontana i6382bFq2m3U1@mid.individual.net MontanaJoe rthu83$f2j$2@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtihef$t6e$2@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i64k35F3q55U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.36pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m110 Cool; 2.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 7:41pm, 2021 }:54^(-7) YΛaჰ 90 % of cell phones should be flushed down the toilet. Bowman (Montana) ponders: > I wish Microsoft hadn't made such > a goat fuck of their phone. > > I don't get rosy feeling when 99% > of the mobiles in the US are Android or Apple. 90 % of cell phones should be flushed down the toilet. "VoIP.MS" is a much better option, cheaper to; with it, you can send and receive text messages, not just phone calls ( 200 incoming lines at once ). My (Win10) soft phone is a Bria (CounterPath). My ATA ( Internet to standard landline ) is a OBi200, connected to a GigaSet cordless phone. ■ Nobody_you_know│nobody@nowhere_ rti140$b8o$1@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i64jnqF3m64U3@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.25pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m110 Cool; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 7:35pm, 2021 }:52^(-7) YΛZხ The diaper pail, a.k.a. the government. Bowman (Montana) notes: > Liberals were having tea parties with their dollies > when real boys were learning to tie knots. The only thing these guys could take control of is the diaper pail, a.k.a. the government. After they're done smearing shit all over the walls, World War III will commence. ■ RonB¦ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtijk0$t6e$7@dont-email.me BowmanMontana i64jd9F3m64U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.17pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ? 8 m110 Cool; 2.7 Hours, Gecko?Jan_2010?X11, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 7:30pm, 2021 }:15^(-7) Y?ZF Plundering the economy. Bowman (Montana) asked: > Is Couomo still planning to legalize pot and > online betting to get the tax dollars rolling in ? DemoRats have yet to meet a vice that they don't love. Plundering the economy is their forte. ■ ScottDoty i604mjF771cU1@mid.individual.net BowmanMontana i60v37Fcc85U1@mid.individual.net Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com GWHKH.147009$OX1.23443@fx07.iad BowmanMontana i61aecFeh93U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--1.43pm.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i64soqF2qnjU5@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--11.00pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m34 Cool; 4.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 10: 9pm, 2021 }:30 YΛzλ "Snit" is a helpless, bedwetting, infantile Marxist. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > > > the focus of the right is on special entitlements. > > > > ...said the whiny ass, little Marxist bitch, "Snit". > > That's not a logical argument, Jeff. But okay. "Snit" is a helpless, bedwetting, infantile Marxist. Does that clear things up ?! > Wondering how you are doing ? I'm fine, just waiting for the mob of squatters to burn my house down, like they did at their last "residence", The Seven Gables Theater. DemoRats are demonstrably the worst possible leaders one could imagine... & now they've seized control of the nation, to plunder it, Marxist style. That's going to last, I'm sure; until World War III "saves" them. ■ ScottDoty i62uu9FmrlgU8@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--9.05am.Seattle.2021 Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh, Talk.Politics.Misc, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m29 Cool; 4.2 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 11 { 4:34am, 2021 }:18 YΚϳА George Floyd. > " Play stupid games, get stupid prizes. " Why are you talking about George Floyd again ?! ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--10.33pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Amen & aWhammin. The Democrats have done such a fine job in Chicago, where teenage murders kill 46x faster than Covid, & San Francisco, where overdosing kills 4x faster, & Seattle, where criminals roam free, in control... ....it just makes sense that they should also be placed in charge of the entire country. Amen & aWhammin. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtea4t$uhe$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty i604mjF771cU1@mid.individual.net BowmanMontana i60v37Fcc85U1@mid.individual.net Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com GWHKH.147009$OX1.23443@fx07.iad BowmanMontana i61aecFeh93U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--1.43pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m86 Cool; 0 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 10 { 1:38pm, 2021 }:34^(-7) YΚɠʚ "Snit", the whiny ass, little Marxist bitch. > > the focus of the right is on special entitlements. ....said the whiny ass, little Marxist bitch, "Snit". ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtea4t$uhe$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty i604mjF771cU1@mid.individual.net BowmanMontana i60v37Fcc85U1@mid.individual.net TheRealSteve rtfhm4$8ej$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--0.03pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m20 Cool; 59.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 10 { 10:40am, 2021 }: 4 YΚȸϲ Mao's Little read book. Steve wrote: > 'the left' ( whatever that means... *today* ) I think it's detailed in Mao's Little read book. " Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong ". ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rtea4t$uhe$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty i604mjF771cU1@mid.individual.net BowmanMontana i60v37Fcc85U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--11.57am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m84 Cool; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 10 { 10:25am, 2021 }: 7^(-7) YΚȶȹ Scott Doty is treasonous, in my opinion. Bowman (Montana) informed Dense Doty: > How does that saying go ? > " First they came for Parler > but I didn't speak up > because they were Nazis. > > Then they came for me and > nobody was left to speak up. " > > I suppose you cheered for > Kathy Griffin's little comedy sketch > involving beheading the President of the US. > > That was apparently within Twitter's TOS. Scott Doty is treasonous, in my opinion. He takes his orders from Chairman Xi. ■ MontanaJoe rt7k48$a0h$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rt80ig$3up$1@dont-email.me syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me MrChrisV q9mgvftjrqpn2kcamljoho1aiiti4d2mak@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--5.46am.Seattle.2021 ScottDoty i605mrF771cU3@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--5.39am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m27 Cool; 1.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Jan 10 { 3:11am, 2021 }:24 YΙჭგ Scott Doty's doomsday cult agenda. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > You DemoRats don't care that teenagers > > in DemoRat run cities are 46x more likely > > to die from murder than Covid. > > > > Nor do you care that people in > > DemoRat run cities are 4x more likely > > to die from overdosing than Covid. > > Looks like a bad case of PD > -- you should get that checked. I don't know what PD stands for, but I hope you get over it. You can't recognize anything that doesn't fit your doomsday cult agenda. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.9--6.02am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics America stops working. When America stops working, due to 1930's FDR-style disincentives, its trade deficit widens. The last time it was this bad, 2006, it was a banner year for squatters. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErKcPXuXIAMk1Mg?format=jpg ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--8.51am.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com N71KH.42306$ik2.2508@fx21.iad TheRealSteve rta9bf$90j$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger fafe90c3-38d9-4403-bc37-333d13022074n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--7.32pm.Seattle.2021 HughHuntzinger 13f963ff-8191-4cdf-b505-81b71dde83e4n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.9--5.33am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m113 Dropped; 22.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Jan 9 { 4:44am, 2021 }:37^(PST) YΙɿʝ Hugh Huntzinger lies like a crack whore. Wherever vice-loving, God-hating DemoRats are in control, such as San Francisco, you get: Fifty-eight more people died of drug overdoses in San Francisco last month, bringing the yearly total to at least 621. That compares to 441 deaths in all of 2019. The latest numbers put San Francisco on track to losing nearly two people a day by the end of the year and dwarf the 173 deaths from COVID-19 the city has seen so far this year. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Drug-overdoses-in-S-F-kill-58-people-in-November-15814242.php In Seattle, shooting deaths are labeled "Covid deaths", & 80+ year-olds are given -false- positive tests & forced into hospitals & given a bill that they cannot possibly pay. Overdoses disproportionately affect young people, people you can't care about, because it doesn't fit your doomsday cult's agenda. Chicago's teenagers are being murdered at a rate 46x greater than than Covid deaths. But you can't care about that, America's youth, in DemoRat-run cities, because it doesn't fit your doomsday cult's agenda. In light of that, -your- blood should be spilled, not Ashli Babbitt's. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--7.52am.Seattle.2021 HughHuntzinger 9be00cea-f4be-440e-801e-6e7b34e32ea0n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--8.51am.Seattle.2021 Snit│brock_mcnuggets@gmail_com N71KH.42306$ik2.2508@fx21.iad TheRealSteve rta9bf$90j$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger fafe90c3-38d9-4403-bc37-333d13022074n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--7.32pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m112 Dropped; 7.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Jan 8 { 11: 6am, 2021 }:22^(PST) YΘхM Hugh Huntzinger lies like a crack whore. Hugh Huntzinger mentions: > 2) At 1:57 Crowd yelled "Gun!" > ( presence thereof; video confirms > tactical overwatch *inside*) Yes, referring to the police on the other side of the wall, guns drawn, ready to shoot... more specifically: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/07/03/37687594-9120779-Capitol_police_officers_point_their_guns_at_a_door_that_was_vand-a-76_1609990845598.jpg Take your blinders off for a minute, Hugh, & look at the photo (above). Do they look like wilting flowers to you, with nowhere to go ? > > There were cops everywhere, front and back, > > As per the above, the only officer/agent between > her and Congressmen was the one individual seen inside. You lie like a crack whore. > > Why don't you care that overdoses are > > killing 4x the number of people as Covid ? > > Has that claim been proven yet? No, it has not. Every morning, you put your blinders on and drink Kool-Aid from the Covid cult. The facts you won't see: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Drug-overdoses-in-S-F-kill-58-people-in-November-15814242.php > > How is that don't you care that > > murder kills 46x more kids than Covid ? > > False claim by Jeff. What makes you think "CookCountyil.GOV", Chicago, is lying ? Data from the Cook County Medical Examiner https://datacatalog.cookcountyil.gov/Public-Safety/Medical-Examiner-Case-Archive/cjeq-bs86 showed 3 children had died from COVID-19 between Mar. 1 and Jul 22. In comparison, over 50 had already died from homicide. But kids don't matter ! Right ? Especially when they interfere with your Covid agenda. ■ syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me MrChrisV q9mgvftjrqpn2kcamljoho1aiiti4d2mak@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--5.46am.Seattle.2021 HughHuntzinger 3637b5e1-175e-4697-b6ec-5e436a7d5ee4n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--7.52am.Seattle.2021 HughHuntzinger 9be00cea-f4be-440e-801e-6e7b34e32ea0n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--8.51am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m113 Dropped; 21.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 6.50.15.254, Jan 8 { 8:13am, 2021 }:57^(PST) YΘШɵ Murder kills 46x more kids than Covid. Pardon the goal post move, Hugh Huntzinger, but how is that don't you care that murder kills 46x more kids than Covid ? And why don't you care that overdoses are killing 4x the number of people as Covid ? Could it be that it doesn't fit the needs of your Covid doomsday cult ? What flavor of Kool-Aid are you drinking today ?! ■ MontanaJoe rt7k48$a0h$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rt80ig$3up$1@dont-email.me syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me MrChrisV q9mgvftjrqpn2kcamljoho1aiiti4d2mak@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--5.46am.Seattle.2021 HughHuntzinger 3637b5e1-175e-4697-b6ec-5e436a7d5ee4n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--7.52am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m115 Dropped; 18.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 6.50.15.254, Jan 8 { 7: 3am, 2021 }:55^(PST) YΘМϛ Kids don't matter, say DemoRats. Like the (dying) mainstream media, and every other two legged DemoRat, your blinders won't let you see the facts, Hugh Huntzinger. Quote: While San Francisco has only seen 173 COVID-19 deaths in 2020, the city has watched as 621 people died of drug overdoses. In 2019 there were 441 San Francisco deaths from drug overdose in San Francisco; so even just the INCREASE in drug overdose deaths from 2019 to 2020 (an increase of 180) is greater than the number of COVID-19 deaths in San Francisco. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Drug-overdoses-in-S-F-kill-58-people-in-November-15814242.php Quote: If you are 19 or younger, [in Chicago] you are 46 times more likely to die of homicide than COVID. https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Younger-Chicagoans-suffer-far-more-fatalities-from-homicide-than-from-COVID.png Quote: As of December 1, four Chicago youth have died from COVID but 99 have died as a result of homicide. That’s 25 children dead from homicide for every COVID death. Data from the Cook County Medical Examiner https://datacatalog.cookcountyil.gov/Public-Safety/Medical-Examiner-Case-Archive/cjeq-bs86 showed 3 children had died from COVID-19 between Mar. 1 and Jul 22. In comparison, over 50 had already died from homicide. But kids don't matter ! Right ? ■ MontanaJoe rt7k48$a0h$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rt80ig$3up$1@dont-email.me syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me MrChrisV q9mgvftjrqpn2kcamljoho1aiiti4d2mak@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--5.46am.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV bfpgvfpiv9s6bqseg0fchpismu9l31j51q@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--6.26am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m124 Dropped; 11.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jan 8 { 6: 9am, 2021 }:48^(-6) YΘГϓ DemoRat ChrisV. Dear MrChrisV, Your ignorance of the drug overdose problem, ( 4x worse than Covid ) and your complete denial of the tent city problem, demonstrates how much of a two-legged rat you are, you DemoRat. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--1.03am.Seattle.2021 MontanaJoe rt7k48$a0h$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rt80ig$3up$1@dont-email.me syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me MrChrisV q9mgvftjrqpn2kcamljoho1aiiti4d2mak@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--5.46am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m122 Dropped; 13.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jan 8 { 5: 9am, 2021 }:33^(-6) YΘϹξ Tent cities don't bother DemoRats. MrChrisV wrote: > Fscking right-wing kooks think that they know it all. Unlike you, we know that: You DemoRats don't care that kids are 4x more likely to die from an overdose than Covid. & tent cities don't bother you. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--1.03am.Seattle.2021 MontanaJoe rt7k48$a0h$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rt80ig$3up$1@dont-email.me syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--8.31pm.Seattle.2021 HughHuntzinger 972f8fcd-72a8-477d-974b-89af84c3128an@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--5.39am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m114 Dropped; 44.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Jan 8 { 4:38am, 2021 }:32^(PST) YΘϴʘ I'm not blind. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > George Floyd was no Ashli Babbitt ! > > She was obviously unarmed and > > surrounded by armed policemen. > > False & false. Go watch the images again. Unlike you, I'm not blind. There were cops everywhere, front and back, & she had no weapon. George Floyd is your hero because you are him, deep down, like every vice-loving, God-hating DemoRat. > the Secret Service was defending their > responsible charges; indications are > that they had no retreat path. Bullshit, wet diarrhea. > her intent wasn't purely self-protection, > but to deliberately inflict harm on others. You must be talking about George Floyd, your hero, not Ashli Babbitt, your foil. > > ... watched her bleed out through her mouth, > > onto the "hallowed" halls of Congress, > > convulsing. > > Medical assistance was provided; > delays were due to the seditionist intruders. I see that congressional killing grounds appeal to you & your comrades; hopefully, you'll get more of it. > She's former military, > so she violated her Oath, > which is nothing to be proud of. You're only proud of George Floyd, not our serviceman & women. > AFAIC, every last trespasser should > get 20 years minimum, and the more > flagrant attackers brought up on treason > charges and hanged by the neck until dead. May the same happen to you, & soon. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--1.03am.Seattle.2021 MontanaJoe rt7k48$a0h$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rt80ig$3up$1@dont-email.me syphonx│syphonx@not4email_org rt8ags$n1b$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--8.31pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m3 Shifty; 3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 7 { 4:54pm, 2021 }:52 YΘʁq Rome got decadent, then fell. "syphonx" wrote: > watch Hero's or History channel and > pay attention to WW2 and the rise of Nazism. Amazing how history repeats itself, like that. Rome got decadent, then fell. My Rant: George Floyd was no Ashli Babbitt ! She was obviously unarmed and surrounded by armed policemen. Still, they shot her in the neck & watched her bleed out through her mouth, onto the "hallowed" halls of Congress, convulsing. Are you proud of that, DemoRats ? Meanwhile, Rich Kids in Seattle&Portland loot because working&breeding pays less thanks to Biden's vice-loving, God-hating culture. Well done, DemoRats ! ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--1.04am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Our vice-loving, God-hating culture. Rich Kids (Seattle&Portland) loot because working&breeding pays less in our vice-loving, God-hating culture. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--1.03am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Our vice-loving, God-hating culture. Rich Kids (Seattle&Portland) loot because working/breeding pays less in our vice-loving, God-hating culture. ■ BowmanMontana i5fk23Ftr84U2@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsuh3s$4lu$3@dont-email.me MontanaJoe rsvdql$e11$1@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rsvivk$npp$1@dont-email.me MontanaJoe rsvk41$vu7$1@dont-email.me Abort_Retry_Fail│arf tHMIH.97253$EA2.27911@fx01.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--3.17pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy +-, 40.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jan 4 { 2:31pm, 2021 }:53 YΖɩɱ The true & actual cause of AIDS & Covid. MontanaJoe notes: > > Vaccines do not work. PERIOD. In the convoluted, twisted world of politics, mentioning the true & actual cause of AIDS & Covid is VERBOTEN. ■ BowmanMontana i5bvv5F8ho4U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--1.50pm.Seattle.2021 MrChrisV l8d4vfl0cm0i0uu4m0njneadv1q3nq8a90@4ax.com BowmanMontana i5f2pdFqslbU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV v986vfhfriql5vu4khaloddsl7ksvonu13@4ax.com BowmanMontana i5gok1F6b37U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--7.28am.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m70 Cool; 22.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 4 { 6:56am, 2021 }:28^(-7) YΖTʔ Excessive whitespace & comments. Excessive whitespace & comments indicates problem code; it has nothing to do with disk space. I know what I'm doing, "ChrisV" doesn't. I was using a 3 button mouse, with laser printers, back in 1982, on Lilith/Modula-2 machines from Zürich ( Logitech is based in Zürich, g600, g635 ). DOS in 1983, Macs in 1984, Windows in 1989. I was programming Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) 1976, FORTH in 1984, PostScript in 1985 -- all PostFix. It's all about the stack, pushing & popping, as one does in assembly; I've programmed in PDP-11, 6502, 8086, 68020. I've done a bit of SQL, professionally, FoxPro, in downtown Seattle, just-off Elliott Bay, contracting for large corporations. The "middle" button on my mouse toggles my dictation microphone On/Off. Another button ( among 39 ) MiddleClicks, to open webpages in a new tab. I designed my (virtual) keyboard; no physical keyboard, no touchscreen. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG My web search options: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG I modify WebPages, on-the-fly, removing crap that I don't want, & I make them look/act how I want. WebPages: Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT FireFox v85 skin: Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT Win10 skin: Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMvYaNgWryc I wrote my own ( mixed font, zoomable ) console, for my Microsoft Visual C++ applets: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM Visual Studio 2019 C# macros & extensions: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--5.32am.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics It's the judges' fault. My mob of hippie anarchist tweaker squatters were tweaking the electrical wires today, causing an outage. So I called the police; so they'll know what happened, when the house burns down, like The Seven Gables theater, down the street. One of the squatters blamed me, calling me a "crappy manager". The cops -foolishly- think the squatters could be evicted if the house were sold !! So I told them about Portland's "Red House Autonomous Zone" (RHAZ) whose occupants were to be evicted years ago; the squatters are still there, of course. It's not my fault. It's not the landlord's fault. It's not the police's fault. It's the judges' fault. Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens; and nothing is happening -- it's a total default. The police were begging me to move out of the city. I told them: "No, I won't.". All of my grandparents were born here, in Seattle, in the late 1800s. I'm doing fine. If only there were more social distancing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-G2JMVvXDM ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--5.26pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics World War II. Massive government handouts fed the Great Depression, 1929-1941; 1940, in America, unemployment was 15 %. Few return to work when "free money" flows freely, duh ! World War II: -- Brought Death & Destruction. -- Returned people to work. & -- Created The Baby Boom. ■ HughHuntzinger bf54d1d7-d524-4623-a173-40cd2bf9bc46n@googlegroups.com flatfish+++│flatfish e30r1zh1feae$.k9xcj3be5bxf$.dlg@40tude.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--11.28am.Seattle.2020 flatfish+++│flatfish gz3wqskrtqoy.15kzqghcx0t4s.dlg@40tude.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.11pm.Seattle.2021 DFS Z18IH.8909$cj2.1296@fx29.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--5.26pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 2 m195 Dropped; 57.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jan 2 { 4:15pm, 2021 }: 4^(-5) YΕ2Ι DFS, HughHuntzinger & Bill Gates don't know the half of it.Oops DFS replied ( to me ): > > Crime pays because cities refuse to jail criminals, > > and teachers won't touch our "diseased" children, > > and nurses refuse to work ( hospitals are idled ). > > Someone has been watching 'The Road' too many times. You, HughHuntzinger & Bill Gates don't know the half of it, and I'm not telling you for the same reason that Vietnam War vets won't recount their stories... ....it's just too sad. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsqq84$otd$1@dont-email.me flatfish+++│flatfish 1gzsi8bugz6zv.11631cjhvdid9.dlg@40tude.net flatfish+++│flatfish pb8d1s50qgv6.1n3qbadu9u8fj$.dlg@40tude.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.45pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m6 Shifty; 30.6 Minutes, 40tude, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 2 { 3: 8pm, 2021 }:58^(-5) YΔჭΓ Why work ?! crime pays better. "flatfish" mentioned: > "London Has Fallen; Financial Collapse" > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MFWeYXOyLs This is what happens when people stop working ! Hospitals are idle, nurses are twiddling their thumbs, teachers, with their fat pensions, are rejecting "diseased" kids, judges are releasing everyone from jail. Why work ?! crime pays better. World War II, not government handouts, returned people to the workforce, ending the depression. From the same author: "Are We Going Into An Even-Greater Depression ?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcwMMKvzPms ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsqoga$9tn$1@dont-email.me flatfish+++│flatfish ipac4nj9psup$.13uk5yvs7cmld.dlg@40tude.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.33pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m6 Shifty; 37.2 Minutes, 40tude, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 2 { 3: 2pm, 2021 }:23^(-5) YΔწʏ Kids are being abandoned. "flatfish" wrote: > I truly hope you don't catch COVID. > Believe me, you don't want it. > And yea, I don't trust pharma, big business etc but........ Covid–Infinity is airborne HIV. The vaccine can make you HIV-positive. It was designed by Bill Gates and made in China. The virus is ultra tiny; it escapes your mask the same way a fart escapes your pants. That said, overdosing & self-harm are the more serious problems today. Kids are being abandoned; not even well-paid teachers want them anymore. While Covid infections are on the rise, the flu no longer exists, because even car accidents are labeled "Covid deaths". ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsqq84$otd$1@dont-email.me flatfish+++│flatfish 1gzsi8bugz6zv.11631cjhvdid9.dlg@40tude.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.22pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m6 Shifty; 38.6 Minutes, 40tude, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 2 { 3: pm, 2021 }:58^(-5) YΔწw Beggars. "flatfish" wrote: > "Floyd, Breanna Taylor" and every other "racist" incident > is just being used to promote a socialist, Marxist agenda ? Beggars didn't build America; if anything, they tore it down. 2020's rioters targeted Democrats too. They even destroyed Portland's elk statue. Do they hate wildlife too ?! They've been living off the Fed's printing machine, like trust fund babies. "Anything but work", is their motto. Karl Marx is the prototypical trust fund baby, whiny little bitch, hippie. If they get their way, and they probably will, they'll spend & spend, until it's all gone. Why should they care ?! They didn't earn it. ■ HughHuntzinger bf54d1d7-d524-4623-a173-40cd2bf9bc46n@googlegroups.com flatfish+++│flatfish e30r1zh1feae$.k9xcj3be5bxf$.dlg@40tude.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--11.28am.Seattle.2020 flatfish+++│flatfish gz3wqskrtqoy.15kzqghcx0t4s.dlg@40tude.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.11pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m6 Shifty; 1 Hours, 40tude, Eternal-September.ORG, Jan 2 { 2:38pm, 2021 }:46^(-5) YΔშʦ I'm nice to knife/ax wielding, whacked-out meth heads. "flatfish" wrote: > I have stockpiled enough ammunition > to fight to the death WHEN the revolution begins. I'm nice to knife/ax wielding, whacked-out meth heads, looking for some tail, and/or something to steal & destroy. Occasionally, the police haul them away; but they're back again the next day... the jails are empty; so I -must- be nice to them... no choice. Crime pays because cities refuse to jail criminals, and teachers won't touch our "diseased" children, and nurses refuse to work ( hospitals are idled ). And I'm not the only one who thinks this way, see: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775843835225964547/795031459236806656/image0-8.jpg ■ FabianRussell rso5vq02j9v@news4.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i59r62Fq6cpU3@mid.individual.net FabianRussell rsoeju02pnb@news4.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i5a3ihFrnvvU1@mid.individual.net FabianRussell rspu7d01lal@news3.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i5bvv5F8ho4U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--1.50pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Ahalldvocacy ╱ 1 m62 Cool; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 2 { 11:31am, 2021 }:12^(-7) YΔщȾ Real programmers only speak binary (jk). > > About 99% of "professional" programming positions Real programmers only speak binary (jk). ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsppc9$2ab$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger a0d0b806-0083-4f6c-aa2b-433e88d49f41n@googlegroups.com BowmanMontana i5bv1eF8akaU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--1.42pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 2 m62 Cool; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 2 { 11:15am, 2021 }:21^(-7) YΔцβ The Covid altar. Again: Hugh Huntzinger worships at the Covid altar[*]. [ *: Designed by Bill Gates, Made in China ] P.S. Crime pays because cities refuse to jail criminals, and teachers won't touch our "diseased" children, and nurses refuse to work ( hospitals are idled ). ■ FabianRussell rsnfko021sf@news2.newsguy.com DFS wDKHH.46498$li2.44283@fx22.iad FabianRussell rsnu4e02dd3@news2.newsguy.com BowmanMontana i59quoFq6cpU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.49pm.Seattle.2021 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 2 m55 Cool; 43.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jan 1 { 3:53pm, 2021 }:24^(-7) YΔɶგ Real Programmers front-panel it. BowmanMontana replied ( to FabianRussell ): > > Let the REAL PROGRAMMER, using the mighty Perl, > > king of scripting, show the way: > > A real programmer would use awk. Real Programmers front-panel it. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.36pm.Seattle.2021 Sci.Physics Whiny Little Bitches, Hippies. 2020's rioters targeted Democrats too. They even destroyed Portland's elk statue. Do they hate wildlife too ?! They've been living off the Fed's printing machine, like good little trust fund babies. " Anything but work ", is their motto. Karl Marx is the prototypical trust fund baby, whiny little bitch, hippie. If they get their way, and they probably will, they'll spend & spend, until it's all gone. Why should they care ?! They didn't earn it. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsha7j$gm4$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 9cb66ca9-f27e-4a01-bdc7-5e711bc5c05an@googlegroups.com MrChrisV 4auouf9ffa5sa0do77m2f53uku6c1iqb79@4ax.com Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rsieih$ngo$1@dont-email.me MontanaJoe rsimc6$hls$5@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsj4s2$kqg$6@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--8.10pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m173 Mad; 3.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 30 { 4: 9pm, 2020 }:39 YΓ1τ Dogs bark, Peter Kohlmann goose-steps. Dogs bark, Peter Köhlmann goose-steps. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsha7j$gm4$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 9cb66ca9-f27e-4a01-bdc7-5e711bc5c05an@googlegroups.com MrChrisV 4auouf9ffa5sa0do77m2f53uku6c1iqb79@4ax.com Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rsieih$ngo$1@dont-email.me MontanaJoe rsimc6$hls$5@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--0.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m94 Cool; 4.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 30 { : 2pm, 2020 }:14^(-7) YΒюʆ Peter Kohlmann can't live without a strong fascist dictator. Peter Köhlmann can't live without a strong fascist dictator, like Chairman Xi, ruling the planet. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rsha7j$gm4$2@dont-email.me MontanaJoe rsimas$hls$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--0.06pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m93 Cool; 0 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 30 { : 1pm, 2020 }:32^(-7) YΒюɜ "Covid" is a (Bill Gates) religion. "Covid" is a (Bill Gates) religion; you either believe it, or you don't; facts have nothing to do with it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--1.02am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ e379c173-df80-419a-8fe1-ea518d9cf36fn@googlegroups.com whodat│whodaat@void_nowgere_ i50e92FiceU1@mid.individual.net ！Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ rsf2me$vc2$1@gioia.aioe.org ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rsf5li$j1i$1@gioia.aioe.org Arindam_Banerjee│ 5f44abeb-5840-4a3e-b5f1-d368596643ecn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--2.14pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m317 Dropped; 9.1 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.59.142, Dec 29 { 4:50am, 2020 }:36^(PST) YΒ8ʜ Do you believe Earth orbits the sun, Arindam ? Arindam asked: > What is nothing divided by nothing ? It's NonSense, not a number. Numbers possess (finite) precision. You're not involved with the development of GPS systems; therefore, you don't need to know about it. That said, you shouldn't judge those who are, as if they were somehow "evil". In 1615, Galileo fell victim to the Roman Inquisition because they felt his HelioCentrism was: ...foolish and absurd in philosophy, and formally heretical since it explicitly contradicts in many places the sense of Holy Scripture. Do you believe Earth orbits the sun, Arindam ? 1632, Galileo properly described relativity. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--11.35am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ d1ff6c25-9a76-4052-96c2-1df2a7c52459n@googlegroups.com whodat│whodaat@void_nowgere_ i4v7jeFo3hbU2@mid.individual.net Arindam_Banerjee│ 11943c78-0642-4c52-b089-6b76c545d2d9n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--1.02am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╳ 1 m312 Dropped; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.59.142, Dec 28 { 11:15pm, 2020 }:22^(PST) YΑцγ Arindam, General Relativity is about... Arindam, General Relativity is about high precision atomic clocks orbiting Earth. It has nothing to do with the golden rule. ■ HughHuntzinger bf54d1d7-d524-4623-a173-40cd2bf9bc46n@googlegroups.com flatfish+++│flatfish e30r1zh1feae$.k9xcj3be5bxf$.dlg@40tude.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--11.28am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV emckufpnjckg75dei57an4fddf99ci24m4@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 3945c30a-5428-41f9-b893-796bbad520e8n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--0.10pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m95 Dropped; 4.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Dec 28 { 11:44am, 2020 }:44^(PST) YΑΧʤ To fill the streets with thieving junkies. Hugh Huntzinger quotes: Some 3.2 million Americans will have died by the end of the year of all causes, according to an Associated Press analysis of U.S. government data. That is about 13% more than last year’s tally of 2.85 million deaths, with the increase almost entirely the result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Even if the (slowly dying) Associated Press somehow changed colors & started reporting UnBiased facts... the forecast could be off. Why is no one up in arms about the situation in San Francisco, where kids... ....fucking kids... are being abandoned, homeless, dying of drug overdoses ?! Again: "Covid" is an excuse to empty the jails, to fill the streets with thieving junkies, to abandon "filthy" children. Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens. The whole fucking world has defaulted. UnLike no-fault divorce, the -basic- decency of no-fault evictions are denied to the common man. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--11.35am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics The whole fucking world has defaulted. Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens. The whole fucking world has defaulted. For political reasons, 2019's car accidents, heart attacks, pneumonia, flu, etc. are now labeled as "Covid". "Covid" is an excuse to empty the jails, to abandon "filthy" children. In San Francisco, 4x as many people are dying from overdoses than the "Covid" crap; but it's mostly young, homeless people, -- so society doesn't care. In Seattle, eviction is impossible; my house has more squatters & thieving, berserker junkies than paying tenants. UnLike no-fault divorce, the -basic- decency of no-fault evictions are denied to the common man. ■ . u8m1uf5ufrpcc55tdif64s9m64cl4cd0vp@4ax.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--6.52am.Seattle.2020 . kj74uf9ovf10c5br4h0vhgkboq56plsagp@4ax.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--9.01am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 0ib4ufl6h5coeuo8sfsi6bt2uk9i4j7hb9@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.28am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Dropped; 27 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Dec 22 { 10:13am, 2020 }:21^(-6) YʬΗɑ Fuck AOC's "carbon neutral" bullshit. MrChrisV opined: > Stupid, lying right-wingers claimed that > AOC was " ignoring her constituents ". Fuck AOC's "carbon neutral" bullshit. Plants need carbon dioxide and warmth; nothing is greener than " greenhouse earth ". Satellite imaging proves it. She's a DoomsdayCult/HippieCommune harlot. She hates America: past, present & future. Again: Those who got rich from the Fed's printing machine are basically trust fund babies, like Karl Marx; they'll spend & spend, until it's all gone. Next, the state will own all long-term assets, and everyone will bend over backwards to suck the life out of it, before someone else does. Then "Rome" falls, and "The Dark Ages" begin because "The Tragedy of the Commons" brings down every DoomsdayCult/HippieCommune. ■ MrChrisV u8m1uf5ufrpcc55tdif64s9m64cl4cd0vp@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--6.52am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV kj74uf9ovf10c5br4h0vhgkboq56plsagp@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--9.01am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m158 Dropped; 18.1 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Dec 22 { 8:36am, 2020 }: 8^(-6) Yʬʦ8 God save the Kings ! MrChrisV mentioned: > right-winger's "fuck everyone else, > I'm getting mine" attitude. You must be thinking of famous Republicans like Bill Gates and the owner of that alt–right wing rag, the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos. Good thing they're being bailed out with trillions of $, no ?! God save the Kings ! ■ MrChrisV u8m1uf5ufrpcc55tdif64s9m64cl4cd0vp@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--6.52am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy -Dropped, 17.9 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Dec 21 { 9:31am, 2020 }:47^(-6) Yʫеɫ ChrisV lives in the country. MrChrisV lives in the country, where catching too many fish is somehow "news". In the city, where DemoRats would rule, -- had they a backbone, or two -- there are ultra–filthy "encampments", reeking of feces & urine, used needles, big guns & knives, pawnshops ( expensive bikes sell for 20 $ ), drug dealers, rape, murder, wanton destruction, graffiti, beer/wine/liquor bottles, brothels, and even metalworks, in an idyllic park setting, w/kids. They're immune to Covid, of course, because they huddle together in large crowds, shoot meth, bleed, fuck each other, and never bathe. What's the point of no-fault divorce, -- and "social distancing" -- when everyone is crammed together, thanks to eviction moratoriums ?! ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.20--3.58pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ ef8eb216-0a1a-4ff3-8db3-e9b1f7937875n@googlegroups.com Arindam_Banerjee│ d8b4045d-8903-41dd-a739-771ec95af8dcn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--4.10am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m333 Dropped; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.59.142, Dec 21 { 1:25am, 2020 }:30^(PST) Yʫοɚ Enriching the Richest. Governments print money, enriching the richest, because that's the easiest thing to do. Similarly, they neglect the sick & dirty because that's the hardest thing to do. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.20--3.58pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Congress. When Congress sees sick & dirty homeless people, they ask themselves: " How can we save Jeff Bezos & Elon Musk ?! ". ■ JohnGohde f5e4ab36-605e-40cc-b6a5-8d0a3a817c28n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.19--1.56pm.Seattle.2020 JohnGohde f9b2fcac-d72a-4440-8724-00e252080254n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.19--3.23pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 1 Hours, GoogleG, 72.84.231.55, Dec 19 { 2:14pm, 2020 }:16^(PST) Yʪχʈ You're too kind, John Gohde. John Gohde mentioned: > "The Fight for the Soul of Seattle ": > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw > > I have a hard time believing that > the LEFT is really that stupid. History will -not- be kind to them. Again: Those who got rich from the Fed's printing machine are basically trust fund babies, like Karl Marx; they'll spend & spend, until it's all gone. Next, the state will own all long-term assets, and everyone will bend over backwards to suck the life out of it, before someone else does. Then "Rome" falls, and " The Dark Ages " begin because " The Tragedy of the Commons " brings down every DoomsdayCult/HippieCommune. > But, it is nothing that doing > 10 years in Federal prison wont cure. You're too kind, seriously. ■ JohnGohde f5e4ab36-605e-40cc-b6a5-8d0a3a817c28n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.19--1.56pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 2.5 Hours, GoogleG, 72.84.231.55, Dec 19 { 11:21am, 2020 }:48^(PST) YʪΣϓ Where's Batman ?! John Gohde mentioned: > "The Fight for the Soul of Seattle ": > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw Where's Batman ?! The Joker is killing Seattle. Without punishments and rewards, nothing gets done. "Doing nothing" isn't the answer, obviously. Prohibition is wrong, no doubt; but that doesn't mean the public shouldn't be protected from vicious "animals". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.34am.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rrfsnp$m7s$1@pcls7.std.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--9.59am.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rrif8u$pji$3@pcls7.std.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--8.09am.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rritih$h5l$1@pcls7.std.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--11.28am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m68 Dropped; 20.3 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM, Dec 18 { 10:48am, 2020 }:49 Yʩтn How much bigger ?! Michael Moroney asked: > Where's the evidence that J2157-3602 > is 12.5 billion years old... It's determined via a combination of intrinsic luminosity, observed brightness, the RedShift of hydrogen emission lines, & the Cosmological "Constant". https://phys.org/news/2020-06-hungriest-black-holes-massive-universe.html > ...or that the universe is > uniform and isotropic ? Google: Cosmological Principle Now, where's your evidence that 12.5 billion year-old black holes are -bigger- today ? How much bigger ?! ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 8224572c-a8f0-4959-9ee2-c1bb3d32a636n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ i4104gF8dq2U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.34am.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rrfsnp$m7s$1@pcls7.std.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--9.59am.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rrif8u$pji$3@pcls7.std.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--8.09am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╳ 1 m66 Dropped; 1.1 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Dec 18 { 6:44am, 2020 }:46 YʩЙʦ The universe is uniform and isotropic. I wrote: > > The 12.5 billion year-old J2157-3602 > > is 34 billion solar masses, > > 13 thousand Sagittarius A* masses. The universe is uniform and isotropic, Euclidean. 12.5 billion years ago. How big would it be today, here and now ? Where's the evidence ?! ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--3.49am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Every DoomsdayCult/HippieCommune. Those who got rich from the Fed's printing machine are basically trust fund babies, like Karl Marx; they'll spend & spend, until it's all gone. Next, the state will own all long-term assets, and everyone will bend over backwards to suck the life out of it, before someone else does. Then "Rome" falls, and " The Dark Ages " begin because " The Tragedy of the Commons " brings down every DoomsdayCult/HippieCommune. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 8224572c-a8f0-4959-9ee2-c1bb3d32a636n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ i4104gF8dq2U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.34am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ i439t1Fm45iU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--1.40am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m23 Top; 23.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Dec 18 { 1: 8am, 2020 }:50^(11) Yʩμʪ 13 thousand Sagittarius A* masses. No, Sylvia, I wasn't " conflating evaporation [Hawking] radiation with radiation emitted from the accretion disk ". Where is the -evidence- that today's black holes are more massive, as you claim ? ! The farther back in time you go, the more massive the black hole. The 12.5 billion year-old J2157-3602 is 34 billion solar masses, 13 thousand Sagittarius A* masses. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 8224572c-a8f0-4959-9ee2-c1bb3d32a636n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ i4104gF8dq2U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.34am.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rrfsnp$m7s$1@pcls7.std.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--9.59am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m62 Dropped; 2.3 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Dec 17 { 7:16am, 2020 }: 9 YʩWϷ Calculations are not "evidence". Michael Moroney replied ( to me ): > > Black holes are gaining mass ? Evidence ? > > Calculate the Hawking radiation intensity... Calculations are not "evidence". ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 8224572c-a8f0-4959-9ee2-c1bb3d32a636n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ i4104gF8dq2U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.34am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m22 Top; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Dec 17 { 4: 9am, 2020 }:53^(11) Yʩ1ϙ Today's black holes are shockingly weak. Sylvia wrote: > A galactic black hole gains more mass from radiation > (including cosmic microwave background radiation) > than it loses through evaporation. Evidence ? Today's black holes are shockingly weak. 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ). 695 trillion suns. ■ DFS mPgCH.28376$aj2.6545@fx23.iad ScottDoty rrcmje$c7s$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--5.40am.Seattle.2020 DFS YpqCH.14247$kZ1.3651@fx37.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--10.41am.Seattle.2020 FabianRussell rrdlgj01090@news2.newsguy.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--0.18pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m121 Dropped; 1 Hours, Pan, Newsguy.COM➤NewsGuy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Dec 16 { 11: am, 2020 }:35 YʨΟZ I never liked smart phones. Fabian Russell replied ( to me ): > > DFS and I are the only ones here > > who program Microsoft Excel macros > > _I_ also program MShit Excel Then why don't you respect it ? > > I do it via C++, automation. > > You completely missed "NetOffice.IO". I don't use ".NET". Like Bill Gates and early Microsoft, I never liked smart phones. ■ DFS %idCH.67594$OX1.41944@fx07.iad ScottDoty rrbtvb$r7o$7@dont-email.me DFS mPgCH.28376$aj2.6545@fx23.iad ScottDoty rrcmje$c7s$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--5.40am.Seattle.2020 DFS YpqCH.14247$kZ1.3651@fx37.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--10.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m202 Dropped; 13.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 16 { 8:16am, 2020 }:48^(-5) YʨʢЮ Once the bread-n-circuses are gone. DFS replied ( to me ): > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG > > nifty! Thanks. I was using a 3 button mouse, with laser printers, back in 1982, on Lilith/Modula-2 machines from Zürich ( Logitech is based in Zürich, g600, g635 ). DOS in 1983, Macs in 1984, Windows in 1989. > > My web search options: > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG > > I see your Pornhub entry. I use it to look up bios, personal info, when I hear about a porn actress. > https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/14/PornHub-removes-all-unverified-content-following-reports-of-exploitation/ " 118 instances of child sexual abuse " -- Internet Watch Foundation ( in the link above ). I doubt that's actually true, I never saw it; it might be worse now, due to the pandemic. The little guy gets stepped on, especially today; hence the crackdowns on amateurs. Sounds like PornHub will have to use bitcoin now. A woman ( I don't recall who ) said she she couldn't get off on porn if the woman wasn't crying in pain. "ExploitedCollegeGirls" has some "girls" who are new to porn, one was a virgin; many are "graduates", around 22 years old. Kids these days can't afford a house, nor a wife, but they've got PornHub. Once the bread-n-circuses are gone, "Rome" will fall again, and the next dark age will commence. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMvYaNgWryc > > ? You sound like you're 80 years old > and on your last legs, man! > First thing is drop those cigs. No, I'm just relaxed, my voice sucks. I sleep a lot. "Rollies" ( tobacco joints ) rock ! > I looked at "gMail.C". > Your code is still the oddest code > I've ever looked at. Ever. I was programming Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) 1976, FORTH in 1984, PostScript in 1985 -- all PostFix. It's all about the stack, pushing&popping, as one does in assembly; I've programmed in PDP-11, 6502, 8086, 68020. > > My playList when reading/writing/programming: > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MyPlayList.HTM > > 1739 songs, by 250 artists. Quite a list. Thanks, and I've been listening like that since 2005, before Spotify. > Overall I like what you do with Windows. > It's creative. Thanks, you and I are the only ones here who program Microsoft Excel macros, but I do it via C++, automation. I've done a bit of SQL, professionally, FoxPro, in downtown Seattle, just-off Elliott Bay, contracting for large, international corporations -- but nothing like you. Your commandline skills, especially PowerShell, exceed mine. ■ FabianRussell rrbgj702fck@news4.newsguy.com DFS %idCH.67594$OX1.41944@fx07.iad ScottDoty rrbtvb$r7o$7@dont-email.me DFS mPgCH.28376$aj2.6545@fx23.iad ScottDoty rrcmje$c7s$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--5.40am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m20 Cool; 1.7 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 16 { 2:13am, 2020 }: 2 Yʨɦȴ Improvements to my Win10 system. ScottDoty asked: > You still stuck on desktop stuff, DFS ? > Kinda, boring, ain't it ? No, quite the contrary. Like DFS, I'll talk your ear off about improvements I made to my Win10 system. The "middle" button on my mouse toggles my dictation microphone On/Off. Another button ( among 39 ) MiddleClicks, to open webpages in a new tab. I designed my (virtual) keyboard; no physical keyboard, no touchscreen. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG My web search options: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG I modify WebPages, on-the-fly, removing crap that I don't want, & I make them look/act how I want. WebPages: Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT FireFox 77 skin: Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT Win10 skin: Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMvYaNgWryc I wrote my own ( mixed font, zoomable ) console, for my Microsoft Visual C++ applets: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM Visual Studio 2019 C# macros/extensions: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM I toggle Windows Defender&Update On/Off; & I upgrade to the latest version of Windows: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT My playList when reading/writing/programming: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MyPlayList.HTM ■ ！Clark_Kent│ MPG.3a4141a8196c99e89896d8@nntp.aioe.org DFS MMSBH.5151$ik2.4091@fx21.iad ！Idaho_Homo_Joe│dick_lick@aol_ rr9bqe$1412$1@gioia.aioe.org ScottDoty rrbrb5$r7o$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--8.35pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 4 m17 Cool; 1.5 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 15 { 6:27pm, 2020 }:49 YʨOϕ Controlling Homo Joe. Homo Joe wrote: > > When Trump goes to prison, the other inmates > > will dress him like a bitch and fill his ass > > & mouth with sperm. ❤❤❤ DemoRats, including sleepy Joe Biden, are in the habit of locking down, and even burning down, small businesses. They use fear to control Homo Joe, as any doomsday cult would. Now, return to your Kool-Aid. ■ ClutterFreak│ 6b272ea0-c751-49e8-addd-4ea23a70177an@googlegroups.com PopeAlsing b5b77c62-c9c5-4fa7-9dd7-fb7f7ccc7497n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--0.07am.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing 6d1961c3-2671-4305-aa17-32bd2448cf3bn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--6.33pm.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing 4ea71460-7bee-4517-afa4-39af635d1bf3n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--11.51pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m22 Dropped; 4.2 Hours, GoogleG, Dec 13 { 7:31pm, 2020 }:24^(PST) YʦСɔ DemoRats couldn't steal Kentucky, Duh. Pope Alsing replied ( to me ): > > Mitch McConnell was re-elected because... > > ...Kentucky ran a clean election. > > > > You can't do it in a Republican-controlled state, > > Duh. > > You mean like Georgia ? DemoRats couldn't steal Kentucky, Duh; so they stole Georgia, a swing state. Blinders prevent them from seeing the hordes of squatters, huddled together, mixing among us, injecting meth, torching crap, never bathing. ■ . bd0b96c5-c58b-40d0-963d-670af3b2d5feo@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.52pm.Seattle.2020 ClutterFreak│ 6b272ea0-c751-49e8-addd-4ea23a70177an@googlegroups.com PopeAlsing b5b77c62-c9c5-4fa7-9dd7-fb7f7ccc7497n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--0.07am.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing 6d1961c3-2671-4305-aa17-32bd2448cf3bn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--6.33pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m20 Dropped; 55.1 Minutes, GoogleG, Dec 13 { 4:42pm, 2020 }:36^(PST) Yʦϵa The Grinch won. Pope Alsing replied ( to me ): > > Mitch McConnell was re-elected because... > > ...Kentucky ran a clean election. > > Wouldn't those dirty rotten Democrats > take advantage of their superior ability > to cheat in elections... You can't do it in a Republican-controlled state, Duh. > > Dictators, DemiGods, "scientists", doomsday cult leaders, > > use fear to suppress democracy and print money, > > enriching themselves at our expense. > > > > Effectively, > > they're fucking "our" wives while we watch. > > And just how are they doing that with > a Republican president and a Republican senate ? Since December 2008, a month before the Obama administration, the federal government printed 36 Trillion $ to enrich itself at our expense. Trillions. Yes, it's bipartisan; Trump is -super- guilty. Initially, Trump bowed-down to the deep state, letting them taking away basic freedoms in the name of "science". Later, when he saw the extent to which they were destroying democracy, he backtracked -- much to his credit. Thanksgiving was canceled for commoners; Santa Claus, the evil elf himself, was arrested. The Grinch won. > > Blinders prevent them from seeing the hordes of > > squatters, huddled together, mixing among us, > > injecting meth, torching crap, never bathing. > > What does this have to do with Democrats ? The problem is confined to Democrat-run cities, Duh. "Science" was never so blind. ■ . bc4aae50-209b-410f-ab27-d4b6479d07ccn@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.00pm.Seattle.2020 . bd0b96c5-c58b-40d0-963d-670af3b2d5feo@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.52pm.Seattle.2020 ClutterFreak│ 6b272ea0-c751-49e8-addd-4ea23a70177an@googlegroups.com PopeAlsing b5b77c62-c9c5-4fa7-9dd7-fb7f7ccc7497n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--0.07am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m18 Dropped; 27.5 Minutes, GoogleG, Dec 12 { 11:28pm, 2020 }:15^(PST) YʦɀϽ Dictators enriching themselves at our expense. Pope Alsing opined: > Mitch McConnell was re-elected because... ....Kentucky ran a clean election. Dictators, DemiGods, "scientists", doomsday cult leaders, use fear to suppress democracy and print money, enriching themselves at our expense. Effectively, they're fucking "our" wives while we watch. Blinders prevent them from seeing the hordes of squatters, huddled together, mixing among us, injecting meth, torching crap, never bathing. ■ MrChrisV 9pt6tfpgk555buo3a7a98g47punm4i4dm9@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rr1518$6qc$3@dont-email.me MrChrisV oai9tf1b9csalifhv90iors8lcvpcmqfh8@4ax.com rbowman│bowman@montana_com i3keu2Fp73vU2@mid.individual.net HughHuntzinger f1b9362c-cbcc-4a61-8a07-ed91c2afcac9n@googlegroups.com rbowman│bowman@montana_com i3l4tnFtc1iU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--9.42pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m18 Cool; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Dec 12 { 4:18pm, 2020 }:21^(-7) Yʦ3L Fucking "our" wives while we watch. Hugh Huntzinger brags about: > > social distancing, masks, telework, layoffs, But he forgets: these orders came from "DemiGods", fake "scientists", doomsday cult leaders, who use fear to suppress democracy and print money, to enrich themselves at our expense. Effectively, they're fucking "our" wives while we watch. Blinders prevent them from seeing the hordes of squatters, huddled together, mixing among us, injecting meth, torching crap, never bathing. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--1.40am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics New CDC Regulations Say Governors Will Bang Your Wife. New CDC Regulations Say Governors Will Bang Your Wife: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR98A70tbaA SNL has -nothing- on this guy ( Ryan Long ). Like " Video Killed the Radio Star. ", YouTube killed the TV star. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.11--10.44pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Kool-Aid is mighty tasty. The world surrendered democracy and long-term assets to protect themselves from a random pandemic, leaving them with naught but bread-n-circuses. "Chaz" Squatters are immune to pandemics because they never bathe. It's "science", we need more squatters -- the more the better. Worldwide, governments are doomsday cults; they use fear to enrich themselves, at the expense of everyone else. North Koreans worship Kim JongUn like a God; such is the power of doomsday cults, worldwide, -- Kool-Aid is mighty tasty. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqotmc$ij8$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--5.09pm.Seattle.2020 DFS xKXzH.20110$o92.12608@fx40.iad MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rqpp35$aq0$1@dont-email.me DFS EW6AH.19508$I2P.14016@fx35.iad MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rqrupe$s9k$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.9--7.46pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m10 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 9 { 5:48pm, 2020 }:30 YʤIU Democracy doesn't exist anywhere anymore. Russia is HyperNorthern Canada, and vice versa. Democracy doesn't exist anywhere anymore; instead, we have doomsday cults, Kool-Aid stands. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.27pm.Seattle.2020 DFS 3erzH.47887$ev6.30627@fx14.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqotie$ij8$1@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rqqjv4$9ou$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger bbf01dc8-0f65-492b-a6bd-0fa4a028781cn@googlegroups.com MrChrisV ass1tf50til5f1un1vg40h0dbgm9qt0dii@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.9--9.06am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m193 Dropped; 48.2 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Dec 9 { 8: 3am, 2020 }:41^(-6) YʣЦφ Following Xi's lead. Chairman Xi is systematically stamping out democracy in Hong Kong; he's -very- effective. Democrats are following Xi's lead, ensuring that no trace of democracy remains. How do they do it ?: Doomsday Cults. Nothing is greener than greenhouse earth. If Covid were a genuine problem, they wouldn't let hordes of squatters run around without masks. The Fed has one-and-only-one mandate: Prop up asset markets. ■ DFS Ao6zH.67810$7D7.60467@fx03.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqk86l$fq6$14@dont-email.me DFS oWuzH.118283$lo15.30389@fx35.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqotmc$ij8$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--5.09pm.Seattle.2020 DFS xKXzH.20110$o92.12608@fx40.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--10.10pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m238 Dropped; 0 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 8 { 9: 9pm, 2020 }:55^(-8) Yʣʫϛ The NBA and CNN are communist shills. DFS told me: > On top of this dystopian life you live, I didn't create this " Brave New World "; "family" is the only "vice" that Democrats reject. > your health seems to be at a low point. > Why? I feel fine, 24/7. I'm still snaking drains, and caulking. I used to enjoy super-fast 50 mile bike rides; now, just walking to the store is a chore. That's what age ( and too much time online ) does to man. > > CNN is dying the slow death. > > CNN is #1 in ALL OF CABLE (not just news) > in Adults 25-54 in November 2020 YouTube killed the TV star, grandpa. Quote: On any given night, in living rooms across America, the television could be tuned to the big game, mom and dad glued to the action, children nearby. But as most any parent can attest, those children are likely to be virtually somewhere else — an app, a game, a social media feed, perhaps, lost in a smartphone where the scrolling never ends. The big game serves as background noise, if that. Good thing, too; the NBA and CNN are communist shills. ■ DFS Ao6zH.67810$7D7.60467@fx03.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqk86l$fq6$14@dont-email.me DFS oWuzH.118283$lo15.30389@fx35.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqotmc$ij8$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--5.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m339 Mad; 2.6 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 8 { 2:11pm, 2020 }:24 Yʣɥგ DFS is going down the toilet with them. CNN is dying the slow death. Likewise, the NBA ( communist shills ). DFS is going down the toilet with them. ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ bb456a6b-1ea9-4b9c-aa1b-009a27ea8891n@googlegroups.com edpr_@gmail_com│edprochak 6f2185d0-f99e-4947-a09a-1955a9f5965bn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.8--5.03pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m5 Shifty; 7.8 Hours, GoogleG, 98.17.183.89, Dec 8 { 9: am, 2020 }: 2^(PST) Yʣo2 99.99 % of the world has no clue. Forget " corrupt and/or stupid third-worlders ", 99.99 % of the world has no clue about what General/Special Relativity might be. ■ DFS jW8zH.296196$1R4.11525@fx44.iad TheRealSteve rqjr16$jqr$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.27pm.Seattle.2020 DFS 3erzH.47887$ev6.30627@fx14.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--5.01pm.Seattle.2020 DFS qNAzH.3263$j72.2739@fx08.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--6.01pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m248 Dropped; 14.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 7 { 5:37pm, 2020 }:19^(-5) YʢϾɍ Drinking the Kool-Aid. DFS replied ( to me ): > > What's your position in the Covid-19 cult, Comrade DFS ?! > > Are you The Head Wanker ? > > I'm just a single-comorbidity man > [ drinking the Kool-Aid ]. Stay back. China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Argentina are showing AOC et al. the path: ReEducation camps. Hey, doomsday cultists: Nothing is greener than greenhouse earth. I'm an atheist, a hard-core atheist, who believes -strongly- in religious freedom. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--4.51pm.Seattle.2020 ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rqmlgp$18ve$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--5.51pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m78 Top; 5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Dec 7 { 5:39pm, 2020 }:39^(-6) YʢϾτ Showing AOC et al. the path. Sergio commented: > Braindead Biden and his airhead socialists > are on the march, and you will be > forced into re-education camps China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Argentina are showing AOC et al. the path. Hey, doomsday cultists: Nothing is greener than greenhouse earth. ■ DFS Ao6zH.67810$7D7.60467@fx03.iad Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com 91tpsft1sa6rk3eebomth5nt57prmphdjs@4ax.com DFS jW8zH.296196$1R4.11525@fx44.iad TheRealSteve rqjr16$jqr$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.27pm.Seattle.2020 DFS 3erzH.47887$ev6.30627@fx14.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--5.01pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m246 Dropped; 6.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 7 { 9:45am, 2020 }:24^(-8) YʢΒε Comrade DFS, Head Wanker. Comrade DFS replied ( to me ): > > Healthcare workers were paid 39 thousand $ > > if they could somehow label a death Covid-19. > > heh! > > Not a bad gig if you can get it... but of course this NEVER happened. It happens all the time; people are dying from improperly-prescribed ventilators. What's your position in the Covid-19 cult, DFS ?! Are you The Head Wanker ? ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--4.51pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics It's a fucking cult. 39 thousand $ is handed to healthcare workers ( plural ), provided they make "desirable" assumptions (Covid-19); no one healthcare worker gets all the money, of course. It's a fucking cult, and I ain't drinking the Kool-Aid. ■ TheRealSteve rqjr16$jqr$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.27pm.Seattle.2020 DFS 3erzH.47887$ev6.30627@fx14.iad AndrzejMatuch N4szH.117913$TV7.90118@fx08.iad DFS CqszH.138651$1t6.11523@fx40.iad AndrzejMatuch M2tzH.122009$sB6.12844@fx34.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--4.46pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m276 Mad; 7.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 7 { 8:49am, 2020 }:49^(-5) Yʢʨɭ It's a fucking cult. Andrzej Matuch replied ( to DFS & me ): > >>>> Healthcare workers were paid 39 thousand $ > >>>> if they could somehow label a death Covid-19. > > > > Relf said the healthcare workers personally get the $39K. > > He misspoke but the essence of what he was saying is true. 39 thousand $ is handed to healthcare workers ( plural ), provided they make "desirable" assumptions; no one healthcare worker gets all the money, Duh. It's a fucking cult, and I ain't drinking the Kool-Aid. ■ DFS Ao6zH.67810$7D7.60467@fx03.iad Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com 91tpsft1sa6rk3eebomth5nt57prmphdjs@4ax.com DFS jW8zH.296196$1R4.11525@fx44.iad TheRealSteve rqjr16$jqr$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.27pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m83 Cool; 1.2 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 6 { 3:55pm, 2020 }:19 Yʡჵɍ Lunatics are running the insane asylum. DFS wrote: > I do believe Trump would've won reelection > had he not dismissed the pandemic Healthcare workers were paid 39 thousand $ if they could somehow label a death Covid-19. Last year's "heart attack", or "flu" death, is this year's "Covid-19" death; nothing changed but the labels [ says Genevieve Briand at Johns Hopkins ]. DemoRats take years off our kids lives, raising their death rate, in a -false- attempt to add months to Granny's life. Why ? Because "Science". Many a cult has been founded on "Science"; I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid. > Trump lost reelection chances > before he was sworn in. Then lunatics are running the insane asylum. Trump is the only adult in a room full of insufferable trust fund babies chanting " Black Lives Matter ! ", breaking glass, looting, and burning down small businesses. Likewise, Karl Marx was a trust fund baby who "lovingly" impregnated " the help ", discarding the impoverished child. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqeipt$is$6@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 98aeb371-7762-4d25-acd2-18a62057ddc1n@googlegroups.com HughHuntzinger 1ce9f01c-394c-4d10-9778-42802cb44025n@googlegroups.com Scott_W_Carson│Scott UeMyH.153881$sW6.9630@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--1.34am.Seattle.2020 DFS 5K8zH.201072$J92.154695@fx48.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--3.01pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m229 Dropped; 4.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 6 { 9:42am, 2020 }: 4^(-5) Yʡз4 Destroying DFS' small businesses. Typing on his ancient computer, DFS replied ( to me ): > > Trump challenges the brainwashed, infantile masses... > > Trump IS an infant. Trump is the only adult in a room full of insufferable trust fund babies chanting " Black Lives Matter ! ", breaking glass, looting, and burning down small businesses. Destroying -your- small businesses, DFS ! DemoRats only care about their lobbyists, like the NBA only cares about Chairman Xi. Karl Marx was an insufferable trust fund baby who "lovingly" impregnated " the help " and left the resulting child in dire poverty. Last I checked, Putin is -not- a communist. > > ...the more they hate him, the more I love him. > > You and Rocket Man. > But he only fell in love with one of you. I believe in religious freedom, including atheism; I'm an atheist, and a capitalist. Rocket Man kills anyone leaving his cult, including the extended family, and generations to come. Biden will do the same thing, given half a chance. > > Biden is bought and paid for; > > he destroys small businesses for his benefactors. > > Which are? Anyone willing to give him a few bucks, including Chairman Xi. ■ MrChrisV cbsksf16lad6e6o1ed5154cigjt85lu9gl@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqejmm$is$11@dont-email.me MrChrisV 5vvmsfpa8vojr6m3m8omrvjetd8qf9cqg9@4ax.com Scott_W_Carson│Scott roMyH.154281$sW6.79329@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--1.41am.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty rqif4m$9k4$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--6.01am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m11 Cool; 2.5 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 6 { 3:26am, 2020 }:14 YʡϚʆ I'm a hard-core atheist. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > Religious Freedom is the foundation of our country, > > and it's crumbling fast. > > Those who don't take the vaccine will be considered heretics. > > I do believe your words are > wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible, Sir. How could you not know that I'm a hard-core atheist ?! Not everything done in the name of "science" is true science. I repeat: Like Einstein, the principal founder of quantum mechanics, I assume that randomness is, in fact, ignorance. This assumption, this "faith", benefits Einstein and me because, unlike YouTubers, we prefer EuScience over SciFi, Zen Buddhism over fame-n-fortune. The theory of everything, including humans: A refrigerator has programming. An acorn has programming. A car has programming. Everything from a photon to a black hole has programming. "God" (nature) programmed us to consume residual "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work", force * distance ) as the cosmos goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "Randomness" is ignorance, not entropy; The future is just as fixed as the past; i.e. "God" (nature) is static, forever and always. Life is, at once, everything yet nothing. ■ MontanaJoe rqdrbt$eal$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV cbsksf16lad6e6o1ed5154cigjt85lu9gl@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqejmm$is$11@dont-email.me MrChrisV 5vvmsfpa8vojr6m3m8omrvjetd8qf9cqg9@4ax.com Scott_W_Carson│Scott roMyH.154281$sW6.79329@fx47.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--1.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 19.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 5 { 6: am, 2020 }:55 YʡKt Religious Freedom is the foundation of our country. Those who don't take the vaccine will be considered heretics. Religious Freedom is the foundation of our country, and it's crumbling fast. ■ HughHuntzinger 33e35137-11e8-40f4-b70c-77cf242afab4n@googlegroups.com MrChrisV lauksfdsie6b4afutopoglaj6154dmank4@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rqeipt$is$6@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 98aeb371-7762-4d25-acd2-18a62057ddc1n@googlegroups.com HughHuntzinger 1ce9f01c-394c-4d10-9778-42802cb44025n@googlegroups.com Scott_W_Carson│Scott UeMyH.153881$sW6.9630@fx47.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--1.34am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m2 Shifty; 19.2 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 5 { 5:50am, 2020 }:44 YʡIʤ Trump challenges the brainwashed, infantile masses. Trump challenges the brainwashed, infantile masses; the more they hate him, the more I love him. Biden is bought and paid for; he destroys small businesses for his benefactors. ■ ClutterFreak¦ e3fc6727-fe9d-411d-bdf2-fbb51f29bd54n@googlegroups.com !Sergio¦invalid@invalid_com rq6b4p$18bh$1@gioia.aioe.org ClutterFreak¦ f9e067b2-6b15-44b2-bc2e-1b1ac951fa20n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--6.47pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 3.7 Minutes, GoogleG, Dec 1 { 6:34pm, 2020 }:16^(PST) Y??? Make Soap From Ashes. > Google says the pioneers made soap with > potassium carbonate which they got from wood ashes. > How did they do it ? Google: make soap from ashes The lye comes from boiled-down, filtered hard wood ashes; soft wood doesn't work. Lye fused with animal fat equals soap. ■ MrChrisV 63qcsf1je0c6lpi4d0epgr2h854ebtk9b9@4ax.com TheRealSteve rq61gv$q3a$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS ntwxH.13491$0h3.4780@fx15.iad AndrzejMatuch CdxxH.16527$xQ7.15472@fx28.iad pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rq67rd$6ni$1@dont-email.me AndrzejMatuch peyxH.58074$lP1.5668@fx37.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--3.31pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m204 Mad; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Dec 1 { 1: 5pm, 2020 }:26^(-5) Yʞλე Nothing to see here. I hate the way Democrats take years off kids lives ( even killing them ) in a -failed- attempt to add months to Granny's life. And I -hate- the way they call it "science". Nothing is greener than "greenhouse earth". And I hate the way that they utterly fail to police " the poor and drug addicted ", leaving me to wallow helpless in the mess ( in shared housing ). " Nothing to see here. ", say the Democrats, as mom-and-pop shops burn to the ground. However, I don't agree with high tariffs just because Americans can't/won't compete. Also, I don't agree with all this money printing; -- it's making billionaires 3x wealthier; meanwhile, Joe SixPack doesn't have a pot to piss in. ■ HughHuntzinger 857ab3d0-5e18-4bbe-98c1-c82d0ed85057n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rq3gae$opf$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger dfbe183c-c8c0-49b5-9795-2dfd3d648d3an@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rq3s6p$bo0$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 93cb1d33-4222-496e-b969-b7cb3bb001ben@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rq5oam$pnv$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--9.20am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m67 Cool; 1.2 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Dec 1 { 7:43am, 2020 }:18 YʞʝɌ "Science". Democrats take years off our kids lives in a vain attempt to add months to Granny's life. Why ? Because "Science". ■ MontanaJoe rpuivm$gsf$1@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rpukva$qqa$2@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rq1qv5$j72$1@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rq28ea$gdg$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger ee4a7067-19bd-46fd-90d6-e6102044128fn@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rq3bn8$k4h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--11.36am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m58 Cool; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 30 { 9:55am, 2020 }:52 Yʝйɰ Seattle has defaulted. Last year's "heart attack", or "flu" death, is this year's "Covid-19" death; nothing changed but the labels [ says Genevieve Briand at Johns Hopkins ]. Like a toddler who refuses to eat, Seattle defaulted. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.05am.Seattle.2020 whodat│whodat@null_void_com i2d17hF4agsU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--0.21pm.Seattle.2020 whodat│whodat@null_void_com i2d5t1F56vjU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--0.38pm.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing afc197f8-c744-48a8-b5e0-a60b6d174870n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.55pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m28 Dropped; 15 Secs, GoogleG, Nov 29 { 6:45pm, 2020 }:32^(PST) Yʝʓν " Ride it like you stole it. " -- Seattle. Re: " Ride it like you stole it. " -- Hunter Biden. When a teenage gangster wannabe, -- a toddler, really -- carjacks someone and goes on a joy ride, he likely crashes it, because he doesn't care, he didn't pay for it. The city of Seattle is run the same way. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--5.41pm.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe rq0qn9$3vg$3@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--0.28pm.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe rq16bu$h44$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--2.37pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m209 Mad; 1.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 29 { 2:12pm, 2020 }:14^(-7) YʝɦE Fascism and overt racism. Montana Joe asked me: > > I see breaking-n-entering, theft, > > vandalism, and squatting all the time. > > > > Everything is boarded up, as you can imagine. > > Just wondering what you have heard or seen. The most recent break-in, in my house, was a few days ago; it happens all the time. Every kind of theft and vandalism imaginable, including identity theft. Squatting. The house next door is broken into all the time, including quite recently; theft and vandalism are involved, obviously. Walking down the street, I see boarded up buildings, mom-and-pop landlords, shops. It's on YouTube ( not CNN ); every Democrat city, from New York to San Francisco. There's even a video of a CNN reporter talking about " mostly peaceful " protests in front of a torched building, flames jumping skyward. The proRegressive mayor of Portland had to move out of his fancy high-rise condo because his beloved "supporters" were threatening to burn it down, chanting loudly, lighting fires in the lobby, at 4am. No bail asked for, no jail time, just PURE ADMIRATION from the mayor for their brilliant "work" defending " black lives matter ", as if someone, somewhere, didn't think that black lives mattered. Democrats are guilty of every crime they accuse others of, especially Fascism and overt racism. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpuc5c$983$1@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rq088p$kl7$2@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rq130s$nj7$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--2.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m59 Cool; 31.3 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 29 { 1:15pm, 2020 }: 8 YʝɜΝ Deaths are lower this year than last. In America, deaths are lower this year than last. The sole difference: How deaths are classified. What was once a heart attack, or the flu, is now Covid-19. Democrat mayors looked to China, to copy the oppression, and it worked. Churches and gyms ? No. Celebrate Joe Biden's "victory", entertain lobbyists, and loot mom-and-pop shops ? Yes, absolutely. Once all the small businesses are gone, we'll all work for the post office, complete with free housing. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--5.41pm.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe rq0qn9$3vg$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--0.28pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m204 Mad; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 29 { 10:53am, 2020 }:29^(-7) YʝȺთ Vacant mansions earn you 10 %/year. Montana Joe asked me: > Have you heard or know about this ? > https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-area-homeowners-report-sovereign-citizen-property-seizure-attempts-report No but I see breaking-n-entering, theft, vandalism, and squatting all the time. Vacant mansions earn you 10 %/year; once you let renters in, the property becomes worthless. Everything is boarded up, as you can imagine. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--2.09pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 2aae966c-c7ba-4394-8de0-246a56de0846n@googlegroups.com ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rpuqti$44k$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--5.32pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m44 Top; 29.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Nov 28 { 4:44pm, 2020 }:36^(-6) Yʜϵʜ Rich people have no fucking clue. Sergio wrote: > too many druggies, and lefties > that dont work at all, + city hall > wants it that way. > > I bet Gates does not live there. On one side of the floating bridge, across Lake Washington, lives Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, on the other side, is the University of Washington, where I live. I was born into this neighborhood, 1960; so I know that ordinary single-family homes here sell for 1.5 million $. Thanks to the eviction moratoriums, and soaring lawlessness, "multifamily" ( shared housing ) is worth nothing, you can't even sell it. Oh, the contrast. Bill Gates' (Ptolemaic) "science" is -horribly- misinformed; rich people have no fucking clue. Jeff Bezos would " forgive and forget " crimes committed by poor people and drug addicts because -he- is not the victim. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--2.08pm.Seattle.2020 AndrzejMatuch vmvwH.25328$hg2.21028@fx20.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--10.15am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m195 Mad; 54.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 28 { 9: am, 2020 }:12^(-5) YʜʪC Poorer people are moving in with mom and dad. Andrzej Matuch told me: > To be honest, I'm fairly surprised that > you can even afford to live [ in Seattle ]. I manage a 32 unit shared housing thingy; for 27 years, ending this year, I helped maintain a Community Bank simulation game. Thousands of bank executives flowed to various conventions, to play the game. Not this year. I don't qualify for PUA unemployment benefits, apparently, because I worked less than 680 hours last year. > It seems like the leftists have done > such a great job catering to the poor > and wretched that rents and mortgages > are unaffordable. True, especially if you get a Social Security check. Before this year, rents were going up 6 %/year, since 2008; this year, wealthier people are moving out of urban, shared housing, where I live, and into more remote, suburban single-family homes, where Bill Gates lives. Poorer people are moving in with mom and dad; some are 60 years old, recently unemployed ! So rents are going down; "my" building is now worth nothing, thanks to eviction moratoriums and general lawlessness. I used to like Bill Gates, now I think he's " sadly misinformed ". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--2.09pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 2aae966c-c7ba-4394-8de0-246a56de0846n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--9.51am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m207 Dropped; 4.1 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.17.253, Nov 28 { 4:37am, 2020 }:56^(PST) Yʜɾɴ Flight to the suburbs. Arindam Banerjee asked me: > I heard that Seattle is Heaven > where Bill Gates is God Almighty. > Have too many snakes infiltrated there ? Actually, it's a flight to the suburbs. Greater Seattle is still growing, net net. People are moving out of urban, shared housing, where I live, and into more remote, suburban single-family homes, where Bill Gates lives. I used to like Bill Gates, now I think he's " sadly misinformed ". ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--2.09pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Ptolemaic astronomy, bloodletting. People are fleeing Seattle because the government is riding it like they stole it. They're playing with other people's money/lives like it was a ridiculous video game; their "science" is Ptolemaic astronomy, bloodletting. No matter, they still get a participation trophy. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.05am.Seattle.2020 whodat│whodat@null_void_com i2d17hF4agsU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--0.21pm.Seattle.2020 whodat│whodat@null_void_com i2d5t1F56vjU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--0.38pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m28 Dropped; 6.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Nov 27 { :29pm, 2020 }:21^(-6) Yʛგя Take off your blinders. "whodat" replied ( to me ): > > " Ride it like you stole it. " -- Hunter Biden. > > Why quote inconsequential people ? Take off your blinders. " Ride it like you stole it. " is an ancient Chinese proverb. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.05am.Seattle.2020 whodat│whodat@null_void_com i2d17hF4agsU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--0.21pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics -Dropped, 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Nov 27 { 11: 9am, 2020 }:35^(-6) Yʛхπ " Ride it like you stole it. " -- Hunter Biden. Re: The joy of the commons. "whodat" wrote: > economic success is possible under any system of governance. > kooks in both realms ultimately fail. " Ride it like you stole it. " -- Hunter Biden. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.05am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics The joy of the commons. I, for one, welcome our new Marxist overlords. Who knew that "science" demands the destruction of small businesses ?! Once all of our small businesses are gone, we can all work for the post office. We'll pretend to work, and they'll pretend to pay us. I call it: " The joy of the commons. ". After all, squatters are more likely to take care of their squats; ....owners, not so much. ■ HughHuntzinger fba7ad03-adf9-4034-b53c-637e674915ben@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rpm1gq$8jk$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 95175e8c-16d7-49f2-bbc0-39222e814b5an@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rpm7rb$q55$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 3d585db1-13ff-47d5-8c4b-268e682f8f62n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rpma45$q55$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--0.51pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m60 Cool; 46.2 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 25 { 11: 8am, 2020 }:53 YʚΠʭ Seattle is killing itself first and foremost. The squatters around here aren't -all- bad. Sure, they rob us blind, make huge messes, destroy property willy-nilly, like raging toddlers... ...but, like Joe Biden himself, and the NBA, they'll kiss your ass for a dime. Even Seattle's (tyrannical) lockdowns aren't -all- bad. Sure, Seattle is hell-bent on destroying every small business, including my livelihood, because we're not part of its union/mob... Sure, the latest lockdowns are beating a dead horse, desecrating the corpse ( in the name of "science" )... ...but, like the MSM and the NBA, it's killing itself first and foremost. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.24am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Shared Housing in Seattle is worth nothing now. People need more space (distancing); so they move to the suburbs, or farther. Single-Family Home prices are soaring because people can't tolerate housemates anymore. Shared Housing in Seattle is worth nothing now, given the eviction moratoriums, drug abuse, squatting, property damage, violence, theft, Covid-19 fears, and general lawlessness. 10 or 20 years from now, the pendulum will swing the other way. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp799g$so8$3@dont-email.me DFS SbauH.16563$Uz.10597@fx46.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpbquc$vag$1@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rpd44r$cod$2@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpfas0$pv0$1@dont-email.me Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu XgPuH.13174$ZbR7.3287@fx01.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--6.29am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m11 Shifty; 13.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 23 { 6: 1am, 2020 }:27 YʙKɗ 2016, Hillary destroyed evidence (emails). 2016, Hillary destroyed evidence (emails). To save her from jail, the (dying) MSM falsely accused Trump and Putin. Like the (dying) NBA, bowing to Chairman Xi, anyone can purchase the MSM for a few bucks. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp799g$so8$3@dont-email.me DFS SbauH.16563$Uz.10597@fx46.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpbquc$vag$1@dont-email.me Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu WgfuH.129312$xe4.74086@fx41.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpcequ$7v2$1@dont-email.me Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu 5uuuH.35065$1R4.34899@fx44.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--8.43am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m8 Shifty; 2.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 22 { 6:21am, 2020 }:53 Yʘʏϙ Anyone can purchase the (dying) MSM for a few bucks. Dennis wrote: > The MSM has become too powerful, too corrupt > and too connected to the Democrat party. Like the (dying) NBA, bowing to Chairman Xi, anyone can purchase the (dying) MSM for a few bucks. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--7.02am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Portugal gets it right. Portugal gets it right. Quote: An appeals court in Portugal has ruled that the PCR process is not a reliable test for Sars-Cov-2, and therefore any enforced quarantine based on those test results is unlawful . Further, the ruling suggested that any forced quarantine applied to healthy people could be a violation of their fundamental right to liberty. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portuguese-court-rules-pcr-tests-unreliable-quarantines-unlawful ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.05am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Gig workers and Small businesses. The deep state, along with big city governments, are literally killing their competition: Gig workers and Small businesses. And they're doing it in the name of "science". How the deep state bends elections to benefit themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM ■ DFS zPztH.14$se1.9@fx27.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp799g$so8$3@dont-email.me DFS SbauH.16563$Uz.10597@fx46.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpbquc$vag$1@dont-email.me Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu WgfuH.129312$xe4.74086@fx41.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--1.32pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m3 Shifty; 18.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 21 { 1: 3pm, 2020 }:50 Yʗიϖ Big City Governments win by coercion. Dennis opined: > The [ vote rigging ] evidence needs to be > presented to a court which will then > decide if it merits further investigation. Courts are rejecting what I consider valid evidence. They're biased. Big City Governments, Bernie Sanders, AOC, Joe Biden, et al. are steamrolling small businesses, consolidating their power. Small businesses win by merit; Big City Governments win by coercion. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp799g$so8$3@dont-email.me DFS SbauH.16563$Uz.10597@fx46.iad Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu l9cuH.10354$kf6.6605@fx26.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.11am.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe rpbptt$1fi$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger a5c8be8c-e9c9-46ba-aa94-d5f07f9a4dc2n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--0.50pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy -Dropped, 19.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 21 { :29pm, 2020 }:27^(PST) Yʗგვ Big city Democrats killed the economy. Big city Democrats killed the economy, not Trump. Instead of quarantining 80-year-olds who had just one month to live... DemoRats took this opportunity to consolidate their power, killing the little guys, because that's what they do. ■ DFS zPztH.14$se1.9@fx27.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp799g$so8$3@dont-email.me DFS SbauH.16563$Uz.10597@fx46.iad Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu l9cuH.10354$kf6.6605@fx26.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.11am.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe rpbptt$1fi$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--0.12pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m178 Mad; 33.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 21 { 11:31am, 2020 }: 7^(-7) Yʗщȹ DemoRats Killing the Little Guys. Instead of quarantining 80-year-olds who had just one month to live... DemoRats took this opportunity to consolidate their power, killing the little guys, because that's what they do. ■ DFS zPztH.14$se1.9@fx27.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp799g$so8$3@dont-email.me DFS SbauH.16563$Uz.10597@fx46.iad Dennis│Dennis@spamorg_edu l9cuH.10354$kf6.6605@fx26.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.11am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 24.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 21 { 9:30am, 2020 }:57 Yʗеv AOC & Bernie Caught Sabotaging Election. " Sidney Powell Has Proof AOC & Bernie Caught Sabotaging Election ": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW69YMFdjnc So far, the courts have been rejecting what I thought were valid cases/arguments. No matter if Trump wins or not, the economy is about to tank. The $3.5 million rooming house that I manage is now worth nothing because we can't evict tenants. Now, it's just an unfunded/forced charity; yet another small business destroyed. Congress is asleep at the wheel, Exxon Valdez style. 2006, people were getting rich selling subprime loans, making used-car salesman look horribly honest. Today, with the 36 trillion $ government put, 13-year-olds are getting rich trading assets of any-n-every type. What a nightmare, wake me up when it’s over. ■ MrChrisV pqnarftu50jkk5ooksv9c6arq2uhgm59il@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp4ema$f8h$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger a70e2e2a-213d-4412-bb99-339ae55388e7n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rp67of$35a$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--9.15am.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rpae2t$sab$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.53am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m220 Mad; 5.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 20 { 11: 2pm, 2020 }:53 YʗΟʭ Jews vs DemoRats. FYI, I do not believe that Jews are " a bizarre cult, bent on suicide "; quite the opposite. DemoRats, on the other hand, appear to be off their rockers, insane. ■ Wolffan│akwolffan@zoho_com 0001HW.2567F72C0021B59F700004DF738F@news.supernews.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--5.59am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m4 Cool; 24.4 Minutes, Hogwasher, Supernews.COM, Nov 20 { 5: 7am, 2020 }:56^(-5) YʗBɴ Democrats worship Bacchus. Harassing the hard-working poor-n-obscure, rich-n-famous media-mob boss "Wolffan" sung: > Onward, Godless Democrats, marching as to war, Nonsense, Democrats worship Bacchus. > With the Green New Deal going on before. Nothing is greener than " Greenhouse Earth ". > Like a mighty army moves the progressive left; You better drink a lot more that soymilk if you're going to attack meat eaters. > we are treading where Marx and Lenin have trod. As vice-loving Karl Marx showed us, Marxism is: 1 - Impregnate your maid. 2 - Abandon the child to the street. 3 - Label it: " a worker's paradise ". > Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane, > But the way of Marxism constant will remain. You got that right, "Marxism" (bullshit) has dominated the planet. > Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng, Sure, happy juveniles, running wild: http://goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/07/24 http://goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/09/10 http://goComics.COM/GaryVarvel/2020/08/06 ■ Oops■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 3ae52598-82a7-421c-98fa-f33f88cf2d51n@googlegroups.com Arindam_Banerjee│ 9fef5a15-17d7-4e7f-9ca1-14ec61447129n@googlegroups.com Helmut_Wabnig│hwabnig@_-_---_-_ v10frflpt2prc4fop6605usrj8eabch9uf@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.06am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m3 Cool; 3.2 Hours, F_Agent, Individual.NET, Nov 20 { :40am, 2020 }:39^(1) YʖეХ Satyendra Nath Bose. Arindam Banerjee imagines: > > Einsteinians are liars and thieves who have corrupted physics. Working in the Swiss patent office, 1905, Einstein was uniquely qualified to develop accurate, atomic, Earth-orbiting clocks; the lasers used in atomic clocks are " Bose-Einstein condensates ". Satyendra Nath Bose; Born Jan 1894, Calcutta, British India. Died Feb 1974, aged 80, Calcutta. Only general/special relativity is accurate enough for orbiting atomic clocks; Tesla's/Newton's physics were/are extremely useful, but not accurate enough. Who's physics, who's faith, is "right" depends on the job at hand. Einstein's faith was necessary to create the GPS system, 38 years after his death, 1993. Tesla's faith was -wildly- different; but necessary to bring electricity to homes. Einstein appreciated Tesla; Like Arindam Banerjee, Tesla despised Einstein for being "wrong". Despite the wild contradictions, both were "right". ■ MrChrisV pqnarftu50jkk5ooksv9c6arq2uhgm59il@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp4ema$f8h$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger a70e2e2a-213d-4412-bb99-339ae55388e7n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rp67of$35a$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--9.15am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m65 Cool; 17.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 19 { 8:50am, 2020 }:23 Yʖʨʏ Covid is a bad religion. A lot of the Covid-associated deaths involved people who had only one month to live anyways. People should have a -choice- to lock down or not, to wear a mask or not. Wearing a mask is like wearing a yarmulke; it signifies you're a member of some bizarre, Jonestown-like cult, bent on suicide. It's a bad religion. Labeling something "science" doesn't make it so. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--1.55am.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp0jie$br5$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV q8scrf9h5da45v045rm5o5kekck1f0gq2p@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--6.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m151 Dropped; 1.3 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Nov 19 { 5:21am, 2020 }:16^(-6) YʖʅΦ In comparison, India is a paradise. MrChrisV thinks: > India is the armpit of the world. San Francisco, New York, Seattle, including my neighborhood, are boarded up, waiting to burn. In comparison, India is a paradise. ■ MrChrisV pqnarftu50jkk5ooksv9c6arq2uhgm59il@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rp4ema$f8h$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.41pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m195 Mad; 4.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 18 { 4:36pm, 2020 }:27 Yʖ6R Saving the planet ( for the machines ). RonB quoted: > " I consider it completely unimportant who in the party > will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important > is this — who will count the votes, and how. " —Stalin People aren't dying of the flu anymore because Covid is the flu. Covid test-kits are little better than a coin toss; take the test 10 times, see what you get. Masks & Lockdowns are based on pseudo-science. All kinds of insane crap is done in the name of "science". The eviction moratorium, and similar laws, prevent us from kicking out nut cases, drug addicts. Seattle is a "do-nothing" city. America is a "do-nothing" country. Last 12 years, the government and the Fed printed 36 trillion $. With no place to put the money, assets of all kinds skyrocketed; consumer prices stayed the same, mostly. None of the 36 trillion $ made it to Joe Sixpack; oddly, it made the poor even poorer; now he can't buy a house -- no wife, no kids. Thus we're saving the planet ( for the machines ), Joe Biden style. Since 2000, median household income is up about 64%. Home prices are up 118%. NeverTrump terrorists "counted" the votes; oddly, they demanded/got total privacy; so there's no way to prove anything. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.56am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 5d043f4f-9349-4b0f-94dd-c21552fadfc7n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.33pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ e0183bb2-4790-48bd-918b-bea9829f53ben@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--5.48am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 647e71f1-ea9a-4afe-b826-acadbd013ae1n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--1.53am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m188 Dropped; 5.4 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.51.138, Nov 16 { 6:14pm, 2020 }:59^(PST) YʔДΔ India is becoming the world's greatest economy. Arindam Banerjee wrote: > I like [YouTuber] Kaheva. Kaheva on why: India is becoming the world's greatest economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy95Q2mqF4s > Chinese leadership is wary about foreign religions, China has the world's most powerful police: they're Judge, jury and executioner; and power corrups. Uniquely, China won " the war on drugs "; but Triad gambling is pervasive. Unlike India, China and America don't tolerate diverse opinions. Like the Biden crime family, the National Basketball Association sold its soul to China for a few bucks. So India, especially Buddhism, is quite appealing. As Karl Marx himself showed us, Marxism is: 1 - Impregnate your maid. 2 - Abandon the child to the street. 3 - Label it: " a worker's paradise ". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.56am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 5d043f4f-9349-4b0f-94dd-c21552fadfc7n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.33pm.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing 69d5bcc8-e71c-4e76-8b38-aac8e1d1982fn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--11.44pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m39 Dropped; 5.7 Hours, GoogleG, Nov 16 { 5:54pm, 2020 }:16^(PST) YʔБG Evidence is adjudicated in court. Pope Alsing replied ( to me ): > > Was it lawful for NeverTrump insiders > > to exclude Republicans from the mail-in > > ballot counting and destroy evidence ? > > Never happened. > No evidence to support this position. Evidence is adjudicated in court; afterwards, the media mob may report it, if it pleases them to do so. > Nothing to see here, move on... You're no Obi-Wan Kenobi. ■ HughHuntzinger 6f6ba697-41ac-4b9c-9ce7-c5417d37210cn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--10.46pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rorkll$l30$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 89bf1c51-8fb7-4ae8-86e3-94e272ec72d3n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rou4o8$okc$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger ed514aec-8f9a-454c-bce5-b295fd793b40n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--11.27pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m91 Dropped; 4.8 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 16 { 6:25pm, 2020 }:21^(PST) YʔЖɑ Hugh Huntzinger proves my point. Re: NeverTrump insiders secretly "counting" votes. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to Steve ): > > Look at the all the robbery that took place > > this summer, all the boarded up buildings. > > > > Do you think those crimes didn't happen just > > because they can't be proven ? > > There were robbery crimes this past summer ? > And they stole ... boards ? Thus, Huntzinger proves my point: Eviction Moratoriums and General Lawlessness harm the poorest -- DemoRats are unaffected; so they couldn't care less. They just whisk themselves and their bodyguards off to one of their mansions. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.34pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 6f6ba697-41ac-4b9c-9ce7-c5417d37210cn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--10.46pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rorkll$l30$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--10.57am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 03b68f09-ac75-405f-8b17-fdc0fb969a2bn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--3.45pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy -Dropped, 1.2 Days, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 15 { 11:11am, 2020 }:22^(PST) Yʓхა Meaningless Votes. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > I could've voted 17 times; > > I have the IDs and signatures. > > let us know if those 17 extra votes > made a difference in an election. If 18 votes don't matter then, surely, 1 vote matters even less. Further, my meaningless votes are "counted" by NeverTrump insiders. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.34pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 6f6ba697-41ac-4b9c-9ce7-c5417d37210cn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--10.46pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rorkll$l30$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--10.57am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 03b68f09-ac75-405f-8b17-fdc0fb969a2bn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--5.49pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m93 Dropped; 5.9 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 15 { 11:11am, 2020 }:22^(PST) Yʓхა Democracy is dead; Chairman Biden won. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > Race is a stupid distraction from the > > more serious issue: rising poverty. > > > > The rich and famous, the media mob, > > big tech, the deep state, are Democrats; > > -- hence, they're entirely clueless. > > I’ve specifically mentioned > income inequity three (3) full years ago... I couldn't care less about race or income inequality. DemoRats, on the other hand, are consumed by it; it's unhealthy. Eviction Moratoriums and General Lawlessness harm the poorest -- DemoRats are unaffected; so they don't care, couldn't care less. They just whisk themselves and their bodyguards off to one of their mansions. > > The fraud is built-in, by design. > > Empty claims. Why design a secretive, fraudulent system if you don't intend to use it ?! Never Trumpers run the (pseudo)elections. Democracy is dead; Chairman Biden won. ■ HughHuntzinger 536e748c-972e-410e-95c8-7c2f8bd7c281n@googlegroups.com pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rona7l$495$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.34pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 6f6ba697-41ac-4b9c-9ce7-c5417d37210cn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--10.46pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rorkll$l30$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--10.57am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m68 Cool; 20.1 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 15 { 8:23am, 2020 }:17 YʓЩы The fraud is built-in, by design. Race is a stupid distraction from the more serious issue: rising poverty. The rich and famous, the media mob, big tech, the deep state, are Democrats; -- hence, they're entirely clueless. Hugh Huntzinger is clueless. This last election, I could've voted 17 times; I have the IDs and signatures. I doubt anyone would catch me; I doubt they know that those 17 people are out of state, possibly dead. No recount would catch the fraud. The fraud is built-in, by design. ■ MontanaJoe ron17f$b90$1@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com ron3of$o3b$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 536e748c-972e-410e-95c8-7c2f8bd7c281n@googlegroups.com pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rona7l$495$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.34pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 6f6ba697-41ac-4b9c-9ce7-c5417d37210cn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--10.46pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m92 Dropped; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 14 { 8:10pm, 2020 }:21^(PST) YʓʡГ Chairman Xi, Chinese Communist Party style. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > Was it lawful for " Never Trump " DemoRats > > to exclude Republicans from the mail-in > > ballot counting and destroy evidence ? > > When did that happen in the real world, Jeff? How the Democrats stole the election: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xurB9TiCWE > Because [a] PA case > [ seeking the exclusion of nearly 600 mail-in > ballots in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania ] > wasn’t that ... " more than two dozen lawsuits " remain. " Alan Dershowitz on keeping Biden from 270 electoral votes, and when to concede " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOiBbzLCRrA ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.56am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 5d043f4f-9349-4b0f-94dd-c21552fadfc7n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.33pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ e0183bb2-4790-48bd-918b-bea9829f53ben@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--5.48am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m219 Dropped; 41.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 120.148.51.138, Nov 14 { 1:14am, 2020 }: 4^(PST) Yʒლɼ The real-life soap opera. Arindam Banerjee replied ( to me ): > > The Media Mob rules, they dominate, they win. > > > > They destroy evidence all day long > > and blame it on " Russia, Russia, Russia "; > > Chairman Xi, Chinese Communist Party style. > > What will Republicans do ? I'm just sitting back and enjoying the real-life soap opera. I can't wait for the next "episode"; it's always a surprise. Others are moving their families to the suburbs ( or countryside ) and enrolling them in -private- schools. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.56am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 5d043f4f-9349-4b0f-94dd-c21552fadfc7n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.33pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m218 Dropped; 46.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 120.148.51.138, Nov 13 { 10:40pm, 2020 }:31^(PST) YʒрН The Media Mob rules, they dominate, they win. Arindam_Banerjee wrote: > Trump knew they would steal the election. > When the lower courts reject, what can he do ? The Media Mob rules, they dominate, they win. They destroy evidence all day long and blame it on " Russia, Russia, Russia "; Chairman Xi, Chinese Communist Party style. Was it lawful for " Never Trump " DemoRats to exclude Republicans from the mail-in ballot counting and destroy evidence ? The Media Mob gives us 10 "scientific" reasons why the answer is, effectively, "yes". ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.25pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Squatters who enjoy destroying their squats. Let your multi-million-dollar property lie vacant, and you'll rake in money hand over fist; -- because the Fed is printing trillions of dollars. If you rent it, then you will be running a charity for squatters who enjoy destroying their squats, and the property will be worth nothing ( because you can't evict them ). Around the world, Central Banks outlawed stock/RealEstate market crashes. Last 30 years, " Quantitative Easing " ( printing money ) has been used to slow asset-price deflation in Japan; elsewhere, it's used to inflate asset prices. The Japanese government owns-n-controls 80 % of the stock market -- a nod to Karl Marx. Asset Price inflation has priced people out of the market, lowering the fertility rate -- " saving the planet ". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.55am.Seattle.2020 pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rompmq$i1e$1@dont-email.me MontanaJoe ron17f$b90$1@dont-email.me pothead│pothead@snakebite_com ron3of$o3b$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 536e748c-972e-410e-95c8-7c2f8bd7c281n@googlegroups.com pothead│pothead@snakebite_com rona7l$495$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.34pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m22 Dropped; 5.2 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 13 { 5: pm, 2020 }:37 Yʒϸb Chairman Xi, Chinese Communist Party style. Was it lawful for " Never Trump " DemoRats to exclude Republicans from the mail-in ballot counting and destroy evidence ? If you ask Hugh Huntzinger, he'll give you 10 "scientific" reasons why the answer is, effectively, "yes". The Media Mob does nothing but destroy evidence all day long; Chairman Xi, Chinese Communist Party style. Russia, Russia, Russia. ■ AndrzejMatuch tDkrH.255513$pC.238226@fx19.iad DFS X1nrH.425620$575.232028@fx38.iad AndrzejMatuch 5byrH.199868$NB.147755@fx20.iad TheRealSteve romc90$ccs$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.54am.Seattle.2020 pothead│pothead@snakebite_com romnn8$66j$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--11.55am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m15 Dropped; 1.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 13 { 11:44am, 2020 }:40 YʒΧʠ How the Democrats stole the election. > the media controls what people hear How the Democrats stole the election: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xurB9TiCWE ■ MontanaJoe rokhoj$qa5$8@dont-email.me DFS k6krH.441679$I15.73582@fx36.iad AndrzejMatuch tDkrH.255513$pC.238226@fx19.iad DFS X1nrH.425620$575.232028@fx38.iad AndrzejMatuch 5byrH.199868$NB.147755@fx20.iad TheRealSteve romc90$ccs$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.54am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m76 Cool; 2 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 13 { 8:29am, 2020 }:20 Yʒʤю We're all Hunter Biden now. We're all Hunter Biden now, and Joe is our " daddy enabler ". Labor Force Participation Rate, White Males: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?id=LNU01300028 It's not just going down, it's going down MORE RAPIDLY. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com roius4$si5$1@dont-email.me AndrzejMatuch tiarH.80248$jvn.42101@fx01.iad MrChrisV bfeqqf19aoohevrv39iapqc6dhqcuv4sai@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rojn5k$3k3$4@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--9.15am.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe rokhl8$qa5$7@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--10.50pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 22 m152 Mad; 4.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 12 { 3:48pm, 2020 }:56^(-7) Yʑჴu Imagine if no one had cancer. MontanaJoe asked me: > Imagine what it would be like in > Seattle if there were no Democrats. > Wouldn't that be nice ? Imagine if no one had cancer; it's the same thing. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com roh7el$iba$8@dont-email.me AndrzejMatuch cfXqH.299036$mK4.68350@fx03.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com roius4$si5$1@dont-email.me AndrzejMatuch tiarH.80248$jvn.42101@fx01.iad MrChrisV bfeqqf19aoohevrv39iapqc6dhqcuv4sai@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rojn5k$3k3$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--9.15am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m174 Mad; 12.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 12 { 8:16am, 2020 }:52 YʑШв Democrats are talking to themselves. Democrats are talking to themselves, feeling guilty, when they screech " Racist ! ". Their policies are, in fact, racist; " but in a good way ", they suppose. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--3.37am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Diligence and intelligence no longer matter. Diligence and intelligence no longer matter. The rich were handed trillions of dollars for free; they didn't have to do anything other than exist. Around the world, Central Banks outlawed stock/RealEstate market crashes. Last 30 years, " Quantitative Easing " ( printing money ) has been used to slow asset-price deflation in Japan; elsewhere, it's used to inflate asset prices. The Japanese government owns-n-controls 80 % of the stock market -- a nod to Karl Marx. Asset inflation has priced most people out of the market, lowering the fertility rate -- " saving the planet ". Problem is: Hordes of squatters are taking control of dying cities. Chairman Mao came from rural China. Pol Pot came from rural Cambodia; he killed people who wore glasses, because they seemed too intellectual. No one likes a Harvard know-it-all. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 DFS aUwqH.142425$cc1.10836@fx29.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--6.41am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger c634386c-c512-4199-a069-1c184833073co@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--8.39am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 7b8a45a6-4b8a-4659-8315-323252f8f7fdo@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--3.59pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m89 Dropped; 2.9 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 10 { :52pm, 2020 }:40^(PST) YʐιЦ No fraud was observed. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > The windows were papered over when > > the 800,000 mail-in ballots arrived. > > weren't the designated > ballot observers _inside_ that room ? No, they were forced outside. I've seen the video –– very ugly. If, for some nefarious reason, like Covid-19, an emperor/dictator won't allow bipartisan officials to detect/record voter fraud, then he has successfully prevented the election. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--6.22pm.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing 88a47be1-bc0e-4922-ae39-ecd3123bb123o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.17pm.Seattle.2020 PopeAlsing 81ccb242-6ccb-417f-bd68-522ad7d67d4bo@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--1.16am.Seattle.2020 Paul_Alsing│pnalsing@gmail_com f5c11ce1-dc1b-4ce0-863f-89e42becb5cen@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--9.15am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 42.5 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 10 { 8:25am, 2020 }:19^(PST) Yʐʤɍ No fraud was observed. " No fraud was observed. " because no one was allowed to see it, in violation of Pennsylvania's laws. In Pennsylvania, the 55 GOP observers have actual video, which I've seen. The windows were papered over when the 800,000 mail-in ballots arrived. They weren't allowed within 50 feet, not close enough to see anything. This will show up in actual court, not " the court of public opinion ". ■ Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann ro5mg4$go6$1@dont-email.me MontanaJoe ro6n3o$9p7$3@dont-email.me DFS 63KpH.383462$RY8.205255@fx48.iad AndrzejMatuch cuTpH.281549$TO4.204243@fx05.iad DFS abyqH.325045$bQ4.140696@fx04.iad TheRealSteve 0ef87486-a534-43f1-b4ca-c7c3ccce0b2co@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--8.46am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m77 Cool; 39.3 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 10 { 7:30am, 2020 }:46^(PST) Yʐʛk CNN, a DemoRat puppet. DFS wrote: > > CNN is a SUPERIOR news organization. Like Atlanta, DFS is brainwashed because CNN, a DemoRat puppet, is based in Atlanta. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 DFS aUwqH.142425$cc1.10836@fx29.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--6.41am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger c634386c-c512-4199-a069-1c184833073co@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--8.39am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m81 Dropped; 4.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 6.50.50.60, Nov 10 { 8: 5am, 2020 }:13^(PST) Yʐʠч No fraud was observed. Dear Hugh Huntzinger, Biden "won" (stole) Wisconsin by less than 1 % ( 20,000 votes ). Quote: Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) told poll workers to " add a missing witness address " to a ballot -- while some poll workers allegedly took it one step further by signing for non-existent witnesses. In doing so, the workers may have invalidated thousands of ballots. In Pennsylvania, the 55 GOP observers have actual video, which I've seen. The windows were papered over when the 800,000 mail-in ballots arrived. They weren't allowed within 50 feet, not close enough to see anything. No chance for fraud there, huh ?! The honor system works. Not. " No fraud was observed. " because no one was allowed to see it, in violation of Pennsylvania's laws. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 DFS aUwqH.142425$cc1.10836@fx29.iad TheRealSteve 5e7b96cb-1c48-4413-96af-e61bda052f73o@googlegroups.com DFS 6ryqH.222045$BL.143226@fx16.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--8.17am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m200 Dropped; 34.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 10 { 7:35am, 2020 }:26^(-5) Yʐʛე The city has defaulted. DFS joked: > Jeff 'Anarchy' Relf was pepper-sprayed > and arrested last night after stealing > 3 loaves of bread from a convenience store > that was being looted. I know people who steal alcohol from Safeway on a regular basis. Every time I go to the store someone is stealing something, or worse. The idea of getting pepper sprayed, or even talked to, is beyond my imagination. I could dance naked on top of the checkout stand until I get exhausted; no fear of cops arriving anytime soon. When I say " The city has defaulted. ", I really mean it, from top to bottom. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 DFS aUwqH.142425$cc1.10836@fx29.iad TheRealSteve 5e7b96cb-1c48-4413-96af-e61bda052f73o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--8.05am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m76 Cool; 1.6 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 10 { 7: 8am, 2020 }:57^(PST) YʐʗΒ I'd get a medal, not jail time. Steve replied ( to DFS ): > > And it might be almost a year after > > the fraud that you're busted. > > Would that be before or after he trashes, robs > and burns down the local liquor store right in > front of twelve cops who won't lift a finger to > stop him? ;) Too right mate, Seattle is lawless. And, if I voted for Biden, I'd get a medal, not jail time. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 DFS aUwqH.142425$cc1.10836@fx29.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--6.44am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m194 Dropped; 29.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 10 { 5:49am, 2020 }:53^(-5) Yʐʊɱ I actually have the signatures. By the way, DFS, I actually have the signatures of all 40 voters on my hard drive. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 DFS aUwqH.142425$cc1.10836@fx29.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--6.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m194 Dropped; 29.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 10 { 5:49am, 2020 }:53^(-5) Yʐʊɱ The honor system works. Dear DFS, Spurious ballots are coming to my house because people don't update their addresses; most of them are out-of-state now. I don't know about Washington state but, in Nevada, people are voting without any ID. In Pennsylvania, GOP observers were not allowed to monitor any of the 800,000 mail-in ballots, in direct violation of Pennsylvania's laws. Why ? because the honor system works, of course. Not. The mainstream media is telling us that there is no evidence of fraud, conveniently ignoring the 3,062 cases in Nevada, and the fact that Democrats have made fraud detection impossible. In Wisconsin, missing signatures and addresses are filled in by the vote counters. P.S. Thank you for the Vittle Vault shout out. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--1.21am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Intentionally making fraud impossible to detect. Re: Intentionally making fraud impossible to detect. Quoting: The reliance on questionable voter lists and the lack of authentication systems were raised months ago. The legal problem is not simply that such systems may allow for large numbers of ineligible votes, but that they would not allow sufficient review of ballots to resolve such questions. If the court believes that there may be thousands of unlawful votes, and the ultimate number impossible to confirm, the only certain way to address a systemic failure would be a special election. The Nevada Republican Party has sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department alleging at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud. Absent a system of authentication of residency and identification, it's the honor system -- an approach that no casino would allow, even at the nickel slots. In Nevada, a Clark County poll worker has claimed, in a sworn affidavit, that proof of residence data was fabricated for illegal voters. Nevada Attorney General @AaronDFordNV has taken no action to investigate credible fraud claims. Voters without valid ID were told to go to the parking lot and simply " make an appointment with the DMV " -- after which they were allowed to vote. A " Biden/Harris bus, tent, or table was in the parking lot " with " speakers, dancers, music and other festivities " and were offering " food, drink, and political memorabilia. " They gave folks signs to carry up to the door, when voting. " I personally witnessed two people handing multiple unopened mail-in ballot envelopes to two other people who then opened and filled out the ballots against the side of the Biden/Harris van. The same two people who marked the ballots then put the marked ballots in official pink and white envelopes. These individuals were not poll workers. " " There were 5 or 6 additional people who formed a human wall, which moved as I walked by, apparently in an attempt to block my view of the four people who were opening envelopes, marking ballots, and placing those ballots in the pink and white return envelopes. " ... Pennsylvania Supreme Court agrees to hear a GOP challenge Re: 55 GOP observers who claim they were "corralled" and unable to view count, which may invalidate up to 800,000 ballots. " It was counted behind closed doors. Republicans were not given an opportunity to see any of the mail-in ballots as required by Pennsylvania law. Pennsylvania law requires that, for a mail-in ballot to be valid, it has to be observed by both sides. " " Our people were threatened with arrest if we tried to look at the ballots. " ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.21pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy I could vote 40 times. Wisconsin is in the courts right now. Real courts, not " the court of public opinion ". In other states, elections are invalid because they're intentionally designed so that fraud can't be proven one way or the other. I personally receive about 40 ballots address to people who used to live in my rooming house. Without rigorous, well-monitored, bipartisan, fraud protection/tracking, I could vote 40 times. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.52pm.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing 869d166b-1cba-4737-8bbe-bbbe90afe379o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.14pm.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing c3f61041-258f-48cf-8664-83620d871f08o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.05am.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing 98ae7b63-2a41-4e23-95f5-49fb226b465ao@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--6.22pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m34 Dropped; 5 Hours, GoogleG, Nov 9 { :23pm, 2020 }:35^(PST) Yʏბო Championing cop killers. Dear Paul Alsing, I'm not saying that Wisconsin's fraud is higher or lower this year, compared to other years. You either didn't read, or you failed to understand, the article that you posted; to wit: To get 89%, the claim takes the current votes cast in Wisconsin this year and divides them by the registered voters in Wisconsin. [ as most other states do ] https://www.kare11.com/article/news/verify/verify-wisconsin-turnout-not-massively-larger-than-normal/507-ac05b2f4-fdfe-4bc5-91d5-7a22496c3314 That's high, and the vast majority ( 2 million out of 3.2 million ) were absentee and early-vote ballots. I personally receive about 40 ballots address to people who used to live in my rooming house. Without rigorous, well-monitored, bipartisan, fraud protection, I could vote 40 times. At any rate, I really feel like I'm trying to turn the Pope Muslim; nothing I say is getting through to you. > > " Wisconsin Poll Workers Allegedly > > Altered Thousands Of Invalid Ballots " > > https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wisconsin-poll-workers-allegedly-altered-thousands-invalid-ballots-report > > "Allegedly", as per the dictionary, means > "used to convey that something is claimed to > be the case or have taken place, > although there is no proof." There had better be proof, one way or the other; otherwise, the election is invalid. " Which is all I am claiming. ", as you say. I despise you for your callous disregard for my problems, mentioned here: http://goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/07/24 http://goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/09/10 http://goComics.COM/GaryVarvel/2020/08/06 Would you like to be in that house, when it burns ? Have you joined Biden, championing cop killers ? How is it that police unions, all around the country, support Trump -so- -enthusiastically- ?! > > Rich-n-Famous Democrats, with their bodyguards, > > all-consumming vices, and remote mansions, > > prefer The God-Forsaken Biden Crime Family. > > Rich Republicans in this country: > https://celstealsebritynetworths.net/tag/republican-party/ You didn't have to prove my point; but thanks anyways. > > " CNN Claims Hunter Biden's 'Burisma Deal' Stinks ": > > https://www.zerohedge.com/political/abc-news-breaks-mainstream-media-blackout-hunter-biden-story > > You seem to be willing to be both judge and jury, > based on opinions and comics. what a guy! Don't be silly, I can't jail Hunter or Joe Biden. I wish I could, but I can't. > > Could it be that you refuse to see the evidence, > > the verified emails, the overt corruption, > > the pedophilia, and the drugs ?! > > You still have not provided any evidence, > only your own bias toward Democrats... The evidence is plentiful, you just refuse to see it. The evidence is being submitted to the courts and Congress; years from now, we'll see convictions. ■ DFS dhepH.475348$RF4.2818@fx43.iad TheRealSteve ro42q3$jp8$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS RQgpH.989753$DO2.692130@fx45.iad TheRealSteve ro48b8$if3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com robbmq$8pt$11@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--4.26am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 6 m101 Cool; 1.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 9 { 4:12am, 2020 }:10 YʏϰA Jimmy Carter 2.0 RonB replied ( to me ): > > I see nothing but good times ahead, > > now that Jimmy Carter 2.0 is our president. > > I'm guessing you thought the gulags > in Soviet Russia were a real hoot as well. You think calling someone " Jimmy Carter 2.0 " is a compliment ?! Today is the opposite of December 29, 1980, when Reagan reversed Jimmy Carter's follies: goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/12/29 Pat Oliphant on Jimmy Carter, Oct 1980: goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/10/26 goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/10/14 ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.09am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy The God-Forsaken Biden Crime Family. Biden won Wisconsin by less than 1 %, 20,000 votes ?! how convenient. 89 % of Wisconsin's registered voters are said to have voted this year. That's pretty damn high; the vast majority ( 2 million out of 3.2 million ) of which were absentee and early-vote ballots. " Wisconsin Poll Workers Allegedly Altered Thousands Of Invalid Ballots " https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wisconsin-poll-workers-allegedly-altered-thousands-invalid-ballots-report In Sci.Physics, c3f61041-258f-48cf-8664-83620d871f08o@googlegroups.com Paul Alsing lied: > I wish to see [ the fraud ], > but it doesn't exist. Your religious fervor is showing. A lot of really crappy, really nasty, really stupid, things are done in the name of so-called "science". > > Poor Republicans, living in > > lawless hellholes, prefer Trump. > > Perhaps poor Democrats are smarter > than poor Republicans and move away > from such places. No shit ?! Sherlock. http://goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/09/10 http://goComics.COM/GaryVarvel/2020/08/06 http://goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/07/24 Oddly, the Biden crime family couldn't give a flying fuck about this; worse, they actively encourage it. The NBA is the same: They just want that sweet, sweet money from China, that's all -- Taiwan be damned ! > > Rich-n-Famous Democrats, with their bodyguards, > > all-consumming vices, and remote mansions, > > prefer The God-Forsaken Biden Crime Family. > > Are you implying that there are > no rich and famous Republicans > with bodyguards that live in remote mansions ?! There are a few exceptions that prove the rule; namely, Trump and and Charlie Munger. Rich-n-Famous Democrats are merely clueless, self-absorbed; I don't blame them. > So, you have evidence that Biden is a criminal ? > Same old story, lots of claims, > and zero evidence... yet AGAIN. " CNN Claims Hunter Biden's 'Burisma Deal' Stinks ": https://www.zerohedge.com/political/abc-news-breaks-mainstream-media-blackout-hunter-biden-story I watched Hunter Biden's sex&drugs videos. Have you ? Why not ? Could it be that you refuse to see the evidence, the verified emails, the overt corruption, the pedophilia, and the drugs ?! Nothing gets past your PseudoScience, religious filter, does it ?! ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 3f9ee1e4-eab6-4788-ac96-a1dde8889343n@googlegroups.com Arindam_Banerjee│ bc4aae50-209b-410f-ab27-d4b6479d07ccn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.00pm.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing bd0b96c5-c58b-40d0-963d-670af3b2d5feo@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.52pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ b843045d-489e-4872-aadb-71ebbb6b55c3n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--1.32am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m249 Dropped; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.51.138, Nov 8 { 11:26pm, 2020 }:59^(PST) YʏΤΔ The Nine Most Terrifying Words. Arindam Banerjee wrote: > Marxists ruled for 30 years and > destroyed my state of West Bengal. > > They remained in power by vote rigging. > When they introduced EVMs > they were defeated in the polls. > > No chance since. > > They want the ballot paper back. > > Bullies smack you and then ask > for evidence of the smacking. So true. President Reagan, Aug 12, 1986: The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: " I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYJS80MgYA ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 3f9ee1e4-eab6-4788-ac96-a1dde8889343n@googlegroups.com Arindam_Banerjee│ bc4aae50-209b-410f-ab27-d4b6479d07ccn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.00pm.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing bd0b96c5-c58b-40d0-963d-670af3b2d5feo@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.52pm.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing 869d166b-1cba-4737-8bbe-bbbe90afe379o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.14pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m32 Dropped; 6.4 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 8 { 7:37pm, 2020 }: 6^(PST) Yʏʜȸ The God-Forsaken Biden Crime Family. Paul Alsing replied ( to me ): > > First, Democrats made it -possible- to stuff ballot boxes, > > then they actually did it -- rejecting America proper. > > And your evidence for this is exactly what ? > Your claim is worthless without evidence. Take off your blinders, the evidence is plentiful for anyone who wishes to see. Look, I'm not going to change your religion: The Church of PseudoScience. Poor Republicans, living in lawless hellholes, prefer Trump. Rich-n-Famous Democrats, with their bodyguards, all-consumming vices, and remote mansions, prefer The God-Forsaken Biden Crime Family. > If you read the link I provided you > would have learned why there was much > less than a 90% turnout in Wisconsin. I read the article you linked to; no matter, this remains true: If you calculate the number the same way that most Americans do, their turn out was still like 90%, which is a rate normally reserved for dictators ( that, combined with the vote ratios, would've made Saddam Hussein blush ). I had one liberal guy point out that notoriously corrupt Seattle also gets 90 % ... which doesn’t exactly help his case. ■ DFS QdSpH.835982$AN2.706996@fx46.iad HughHuntzinger 2cf41f58-6201-4530-b735-b32ef31943a4n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve ro95eh$b6d$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 290cd7fb-089c-4d48-a405-b475d1579f09n@googlegroups.com HughHuntzinger 5cc462f1-b02b-4750-b2b2-cb24b6bd8677n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve roa9tu$68e$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--7.02pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m70 Cool; 19.3 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 8 { 6:35pm, 2020 }:42 Yʏʑფ Sturgis eats people like Hugh Huntzinger. Steve replied ( to Hugh Huntzinger ): > > FYI, the hot spot is North Dakota right now > > Sturgis is not that far ;) Sturgis eats people like Hugh Huntzinger for lunch and then askes for more. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.58am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 3f9ee1e4-eab6-4788-ac96-a1dde8889343n@googlegroups.com Arindam_Banerjee│ bc4aae50-209b-410f-ab27-d4b6479d07ccn@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.00pm.Seattle.2020 PaulAlsing bd0b96c5-c58b-40d0-963d-670af3b2d5feo@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.52pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m31 Dropped; 0 Secs, GoogleG, Nov 8 { 6:37pm, 2020 }:16^(PST) YʏʒɄ Welcome to the church of PseudoScience. Paul Alsing replied ( to me ): > > > > > " Fuckery Is Afoot " > > > > > https://www.zerohedge.com/political/correia-fkery-afoot > > 90 % voter participation ?! all for Biden ?! > > There was no 90% participation. > Show your evidence. I did. From the link above: If you calculate the number the same way that most Americans do, their turn out was still like 90%, which is a rate normally reserved for dictators ( that, combined with the vote ratios, would've made Saddam Hussein blush ). I had one liberal guy point out that notoriously corrupt Seattle also gets 90 % ... which doesn’t exactly help his case. First, Democrats made it -possible- to stuff ballot boxes, then they actually did it -- rejecting America proper. Welcome to the church of PseudoScience: After Karl Marx got off the maid he was fucking, he rightly predicted that hypocrisy, pseudo-communism, and pseudo-science, were destined to dominate the planet. ■ HughHuntzinger e15541ec-a8fe-40e8-8e2f-22f0a8acb503n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.59pm.Seattle.2020 DFS QdSpH.835982$AN2.706996@fx46.iad HughHuntzinger 2cf41f58-6201-4530-b735-b32ef31943a4n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.26pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 86f041d8-edb2-4e4e-a087-e4807719bd1fn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.27pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m65 Dropped; 24.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 8 { 5:41pm, 2020 }:28^(PST) Yʏʈზ Hypocrisy, Pseudo-Communism, and Pseudo-Science. If you ( Hugh Huntzinger ) told me the sky was blue, I wouldn't believe it. Again: After Karl Marx got off the maid he was fucking, he rightly predicted that hypocrisy, pseudo-communism, and pseudo-science, were destined to dominate the planet. First, Democrats made it -possible- to stuff ballot boxes, then they actually did it -- rejecting America proper. ■ FabianRussell ro9t9b0ih3@news4.newsguy.com DFS nR%pH.308952$GQ4.164367@fx02.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.57pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m179 Top; 19.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 8 { 4:14pm, 2020 }:10^(-5) Yʏɺʂ Fabian Russell and DFS hate Trump. Fabian Russell and DFS hate Trump, of course, because they both attend The Church of Hypocrisy-n-Debauchery. ■ HughHuntzinger e15541ec-a8fe-40e8-8e2f-22f0a8acb503n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.59pm.Seattle.2020 DFS QdSpH.835982$AN2.706996@fx46.iad HughHuntzinger 2cf41f58-6201-4530-b735-b32ef31943a4n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve ro95eh$b6d$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 290cd7fb-089c-4d48-a405-b475d1579f09n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.45pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m62 Dropped; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 8 { 3: 5pm, 2020 }:34^(PST) Yʏɮნ Hypocrisy, Pseudo-Communism, and Pseudo-Science. Hugh Huntzinger imagined: > for some anti-science buffoons, > they can only learn through personal loss. You can call your vile spew "science", as Vladimir Lenin did, but that doesn't make it so. After Karl Marx got off the maid he was fucking, he rightly predicted that hypocrisy, pseudo-communism, and pseudo-science, were destined to dominate the planet. First, Democrats made it -possible- to stuff ballot boxes, then they actually did it -- rejecting America proper. ■ DFS zFJpH.495084$zX4.220080@fx41.iad MontanaJoe ro7qvc$7gb$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger e15541ec-a8fe-40e8-8e2f-22f0a8acb503n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.59pm.Seattle.2020 DFS QdSpH.835982$AN2.706996@fx46.iad HughHuntzinger 2cf41f58-6201-4530-b735-b32ef31943a4n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.26pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m62 Dropped; 9 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 8 { 7:33am, 2020 }:12^(PST) YʏZΡ The Church of Vile Debauchery. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ):: > > > Countries and states that don't lockdown have the lowest death rates. > > > https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mystery-taiwan > > Zerohedge is a tinfoil hat website. I can see how you'd believe that, with every fiber of your being, if you were a rich-n-famous Democrat, with bodyguards, flaunting your vices, from your remote mansions. Poor Republicans, living in lawless hellholes, believe differently. God has forsaken The Biden Crime Family. First, Democrats made it -possible- to stuff ballot boxes, then they actually did it -- rejecting America proper. 150 % voter participation ?! all for Biden ?! Democrat Fuckery would make Saddam Hussein blush. > Domestically, the average daily mortality rate > per capita in Red States was 50% higher than > in Blue ... roughly 3/day-M vs 1.8/day-M Is that what they're preaching these days in The Church of Vile Debauchery ?! ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.58am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 3f9ee1e4-eab6-4788-ac96-a1dde8889343n@googlegroups.com Arindam_Banerjee│ bc4aae50-209b-410f-ab27-d4b6479d07ccn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.00pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m257 Dropped; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 120.148.51.138, Nov 8 { 3: 4pm, 2020 }:56^(PST) Yʏɮж Democrat Fuckery would make Saddam Hussein blush. Arindam Banerjee: > 2012 and 2016, 127m votes cast > 2020, 150m votes cast, should be 130m at most. > At least 150-130= 20m fraud votes. > > Twenty million frauds lined up to cheat! > Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum! > Deep State and Swamp have done for the rest > The public's well and truly hung. 90 % voter participation ?! all for Biden ?! Democrat Fuckery would make Saddam Hussein blush. ■ MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org ro7rm7$ajg$1@dont-email.me nilsson│nilsson@toesnullmail_ gmTpH.417133$I15.346914@fx36.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.47am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 8 { 6:34am, 2020 }:52 YʏPв Rich-n-Famous Democrats stole the election. Rich-n-Famous Democrats stole the election, fair and square. In the process, they lost the hearts and minds of America. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ro6dgk$16d$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.55am.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe ro6nui$es7$5@dont-email.me DFS zFJpH.495084$zX4.220080@fx41.iad MontanaJoe ro7qvc$7gb$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger e15541ec-a8fe-40e8-8e2f-22f0a8acb503n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--8.59pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m61 Dropped; 35.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 7 { 8:14pm, 2020 }: ^(PST) YʎШɸ Rich fuckwits. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to MontanaJoe ): > > Montana got rid of all Democrats in this election. Only one lowly > > democrat survived. Our new governor is now putting down any covid > > mandates or mask mandates. We can now breath a sigh of relief here. > > Well, then get ready to say goodbye to some friends and relatives, for > Montana’s death rate last week was 400% the National average and climbing. I am getting sick of you rich fuckwits. Countries and states that don't lockdown have the lowest death rates. https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mystery-taiwan ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.26pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics One man's "truth" is another man's "lie". So many unknowns, people make "assumptions"; the axioms adopted, one's "faith", varies a lot. Poor Republicans, living in lawless hellholes, prefer Trump. Rich-n-Famous Democrats, with their bodyguards, precious vices, and remote mansions, prefer Biden. One man's "truth" is another man's "lie". "Superwoman", Lilly Singh, is happy today, and I'm happy for her ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2McbpSJDew ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 AndrzejMatuch 2wypH.649743$%p.55442@fx33.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ro6dgk$16d$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.55am.Seattle.2020 MontanaJoe ro6nui$es7$5@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ro7igc$ooe$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.23pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m97 Cool; 1.6 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 7 { 5:43pm, 2020 }:40 YʎϿɤ One man's "truth" is another man's "lie". RonB replied ( to MontanaJoe ): > > no one showed up for Bidens rallies > > and thousands showed up for Trump. > > Yet Biden is the projected winner ? > > The MSM doesn't REPORT the news, > they MAKE it. > > It's pure fiction but the gullible > buy into it and letting them get > away with it turns it into reality. So many unknowns, people make "assumptions"; the axioms adopted, one's "faith", varies a lot. Poor Republicans, living in lawless hellholes, prefer Trump. Rich-n-Famous Democrats, with their bodyguards, precious vices, and remote mansions, prefer Biden. One man's "truth" is another man's "lie". "Superwoman", Lilly Singh, is happy today, and I'm happy for her ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2McbpSJDew ■ TheRealSteve ro42q3$jp8$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS RQgpH.989753$DO2.692130@fx45.iad TheRealSteve ro48b8$if3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 AndrzejMatuch 2wypH.649743$%p.55442@fx33.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ro6dgk$16d$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.55am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m93 Cool; 1.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 7 { 7:12am, 2020 }:20 YʎʘK The "election" is invalid. RonB wrote: > In an honest election Biden couldn't > become the local dog catcher. The "election" is invalid. You've read this, I assume: " Fuckery Is Afoot " https://www.zerohedge.com/political/correia-fkery-afoot ■ TheRealSteve ro42q3$jp8$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS RQgpH.989753$DO2.692130@fx45.iad TheRealSteve ro48b8$if3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ ro54dl$t4o$3@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com ro6d7u$16d$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.19am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m93 Cool; 6.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 7 { 7: 7am, 2020 }:43 Yʎʗɧ When Reagan reversed Jimmy Carter's follies. RonB wrote: > Jimmy Carter was a terrible president, > but he was the only honest man to > hold the office in my lifetime. Today is the opposite of December 29, 1980, when Reagan reversed Jimmy Carter's follies: goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/12/29 ■ DFS RQgpH.989753$DO2.692130@fx45.iad TheRealSteve ro48b8$if3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ ro54dl$t4o$3@dont-email.me . Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--9.26pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger a223e264-e5c4-4158-b539-8ec77c4f77b1n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.52am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m61 Dropped; 22.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Nov 7 { 6: 3am, 2020 }:41^(PST) Yʎʌφ Lawless HellHoles. Hugh Huntzinger wrote: > Prescient: > goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/10/21 God has abandoned The Biden Crime Family. This problem, Lawless HellHoles, has gone too far: goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/12/10 ■ DFS dhepH.475348$RF4.2818@fx43.iad TheRealSteve ro42q3$jp8$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS RQgpH.989753$DO2.692130@fx45.iad TheRealSteve ro48b8$if3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ ro54dl$t4o$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--9.29pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m47 Cool; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 6 { 7:31pm, 2020 }: 1^(-7) YʎZz Pat Oliphant on Jimmy Carter, Oct 1980. > > I see nothing but good times ahead, > > now that Jimmy Carter 2.0 is our president. > > Who would that be ? > Carter was before my time. Pat Oliphant on Jimmy Carter, Oct 1980: goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/10/26 goComics.COM/PatOliphant/1980/10/14 A very similar thing is happening today; American adversaries are rejoicing; Joe Biden is bought and paid for. ■ DFS HWdpH.358536$RY8.35143@fx48.iad Jonesy│Jonesy@myspamitmail_org K3epH.979022$DO2.11128@fx45.iad DFS dhepH.475348$RF4.2818@fx43.iad TheRealSteve ro42q3$jp8$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS RQgpH.989753$DO2.692130@fx45.iad TheRealSteve ro48b8$if3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m66 Cool; 2 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 6 { 11:31am, 2020 }:53 Yʍщɱ Jimmy Carter 2.0 I see nothing but good times ahead, now that Jimmy Carter 2.0 is our president. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--2.53am.Seattle.2020 AndrzejMatuch YAdpH.25784$je1.11360@fx22.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--2.21pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 13 m18 Shifty; 6.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 6 { 7: 3am, 2020 }:20^(-5) YʍМα Canada is a cuckold. Andrzej Matuch wrote: > Canada is like the world's > prostitute right now. Canada is a cuckold. ■ TheRealSteve rlsq3e$5jr$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS HsmgH.103573$lZ.9827@fx12.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--1.46pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 1kiaqf9ramfh30ivro4jr05065rp0tm8bj@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--5.48am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV nnnaqfl5tfspd1stknpeaj4trhu1j342ta@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--2.08pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m118 Dropped; 6.9 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Nov 6 { 6:39am, 2020 }:31^(-6) YʍИμ I see a Republican House+Senate. MrChrisV wrote: > Thank God the Repugs will retain > control of the Senate. > > If one party gains control of > the Senate, House, and POTUS, > things can really go off the rails. Two years from now, I see a Republican House+Senate. ■ Stephane_Tougard│stephane@sdf_ r7i75h-c3n.ln1@clipper.unices.org DFS pK9gH.121768$cc1.21242@fx29.iad TheRealSteve rlsq3e$5jr$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS HsmgH.103573$lZ.9827@fx12.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--1.46pm.Seattle.2020 DFS nadpH.207131$6w2.161138@fx44.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--2.01pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 21 m176 Top; 7.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Nov 6 { 6:28am, 2020 }:17^(-5) YʍЖϿ Voters are simpletons. You (DFS) told me: > Shame on you for not voting at all. > You don't get to state an opinion > if you're too lazy to even vote. Voters are simpletons. > If voting could change anything, > it'd be made illegal ! > > There is no way any politicians can > legally represent anyone because he > was elected on a secret ballot by > a small percentage of voters. > > He then claims to represent > the people who voted against him > > and even those who -wisely- chose not to > participate in such criminal activity. - Robert S. Borden, Sep 1976, Lowell, Massachusetts ■ Stephane_Tougard│stephane@sdf_ r7i75h-c3n.ln1@clipper.unices.org DFS pK9gH.121768$cc1.21242@fx29.iad TheRealSteve rlsq3e$5jr$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS HsmgH.103573$lZ.9827@fx12.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--1.46pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 1kiaqf9ramfh30ivro4jr05065rp0tm8bj@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--5.48am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m118 Dropped; 17.7 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Nov 6 { 5:13am, 2020 }:44^(-6) YʍϺɨ Joe and I have a lot in common. MrChrisV wrote: > I voted the congressional ballots, > but left the presidential vote blank. > > Trump is just too much of an asshole, > and Biden will likely drop dead and > leave a radical left-winger in charge. > > I could not endorse either. A lot of people did that, apparently. Joe and I have a lot in common; e.g. drug-addled associates. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--2.53am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy I look like a heartless Republican. Rich Democrats, like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, are entirely clueless; only the poor know what they truly need. Rich Democrats have bodyguards and mansions they can run to, all over the world; meanwhile, the poor are stuck in the lawless hell hole that is the eviction moratorium. Legalizing drugs and allowing poverty and/or drug addiction as a legal defense would be all well and good, if it weren't for the fact that these people are impossible to live with. Bill Gates doesn't have to live with them, I do; so he can " virtue signal ", as Democrats do, and I look like a heartless Republican. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--1.51pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 9fc3fc05-c764-4106-8a58-691b2f0a0bcan@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--4.28pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m275 Dropped; 23.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 120.148.51.138, Nov 5 { 3:49pm, 2020 }:33^(PST) Yʍɶɝ Shafting young people. Dear Arindam Banerjee, You don't have the slightest clue as to what thermodynamics and general relativity might be, because you don't care, because you get your money from those who are -afraid- to live/die. There's a lot of money to be had in your business; so I don't blame you, it pays your rent. You need general relativity to create a viable GPS system; but, who cares?, that's not your job. In America, the NBA needs Chinese money, so they promoted Biden. Lots of people are like that; including TV, Hollywood and some YouTubers; they voted with their wallets in mind. Trump could have won had he addressed the income disparity between the old and young, caused by the Federal Reserve... but he didn't. The Federal Reserve's Ponzi scheme is shafting young people, lowering the fertility rate. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlmmes$496$1@dont-email.me DFS GEDfH.279736$hQ4.90549@fx39.iad Stephane_Tougard│stephane@sdf_ r7i75h-c3n.ln1@clipper.unices.org DFS pK9gH.121768$cc1.21242@fx29.iad TheRealSteve rlsq3e$5jr$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS HsmgH.103573$lZ.9827@fx12.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--1.46pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy +Top, 3.7 Weeks, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 10 { 9:44am, 2020 }:10^(-4) YɻЭʂ Biden < Jimmy Carter. Last month, you (DFS) wrote: > The direction under Trump is sickening, > as will be the direction under Biden. > Hence a write-in vote for a Republican. Like you, tossing your vote, I didn't vote; however, you seem to be ignoring the fact that The Biden Crime Family took bribes from China, Ukraine and Russia... and spent it on crack, meth and underaged hookers/spies... what a class act. Little wonder you prefer that over Trump. Also, you're -solidly- behind Biden's " Lock Down the country -- Default, Default, Default ! " direction. Eviction Moratoriums as far as the eye can see. Boarded-up businesses, waiting to burn down. Implicitly, Biden advocates killing cops and assisting arsonists, murderers, and looters in the name of " Reverse Racism ". You, DFS : > I don't recall if Trump laughed at Serge Kovaleski, > who has arthrogryposis, but he cruelly mocked him. You must be a brain-dead TV watcher, because that's fake news. Trump was mocking the MSM/TV "retards" who somehow forgot about the -local- support the 9/11 terrorists received. > Trump mocked Hillary for her pneumonia > and imitated her slight stumble. Hillary is guilty of everything she (falsely) accused Trump of doing. Like Hunter Biden, she was careless with her emails and tried to blame it on mysterious "Russian hackers". Chairman Xi, the Chinese Communist Party, Vladimir Putin, and Ali Khamenei all prefer Biden... because he's bought and paid for. They do not prefer Trump, and that's a -hard-, well-documented fact. Biden < Jimmy Carter. > Trump mocks lots of people for lots of things. > He was always temperamentally unfit and > unprepared to be POTUS. You're projecting -your- faults onto Trump. Trump has wonderful, refreshingly-new ideas; America does -not- tolerate diverse opinions. The Chinese Communist Party is more tolerant. > He's a degenerate, a serial sexual-assaulter, > an adulterer, a shitty businessman, > a slimy tax avoiding hypocrite, You don't understand tax law. As for womanizing, Trump is -far- better than Biden; ....Trump doesn't grab little girls and sniff their hair. Biden covered up his sexual assaults. Trump never sexually assaulted anyone. > Trump is a science-doubter Millions of people have been, and continue to be, killed and enslaved, in the name of "science". > Trump is moron, and a compulsively > lying piece of shit. He's the most honest, intelligent president I've ever seen. > He even paid someone to take his SAT test. I don't know if that's true but, today, entrance is all about " reversed racism ", not grades, nor SAT scores. Trump would reverse that. Biden piles it on, thick-n-deep. > Can't wait to see him walking out of > the White House for the last time - > hopefully in handcuffs of course. Like America itself, you deserve Biden, not Trump... enjoy. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--5.05pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Today's world. Today's world: goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/07/24 goComics.COM/LisaBenson/2020/09/10 goComics.COM/GaryVarvel/2020/08/06 goComics.COM/GaryVarvel/2020/09/06 ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--1.52am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Nial Fuller placed a 6 figure bet on TRUMP to win. " I placed a 6 figure bet on TRUMP to win. " -- Nial Fuller, Oct 25th, 2020: https://www.learntotradethemarket.com/nial-fullers-blog/why-trump-wins-2020-election ■ anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rnccln$1fk$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--1.18pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m43 Cool; 1.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 28 { 11:18am, 2020 }:31^(-6) YʇнV Edge is the alternative Microsoft product. Microsoft has abandoned Internet Explorer; Edge is the alternative Microsoft product. I use Windows 10 exclusively; 99 % of the time I use my highly-custom version of Firefox. Google Chrome is my alternate browser. I don't use Microsoft Edge. ■ HughHuntzinger b58fd6d2-3f8f-4aa7-a33d-3dc6ca6b95f9o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rmpo7q$qkf$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 3e3fa951-e039-4dc5-b9eb-430459a7f92co@googlegroups.com ScottDoty rmqiq5$5sj$3@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 0b351cfc-db1d-48fd-b36a-39b503d12037n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rn42t2$j51$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--8.20am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m47 Cool; 15.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Comcast.NET➤Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 25 { 7:42am, 2020 }:42 YʅЙg November 3rd, the choice is simple. November 3rd, the choice is simple: 1. If you believe in lockdowns, where everyone and their dog defaults, vote for Hidin' Biden. 2. If you believe in Ponzi schemes, where older people get rich at the expense of later generations, vote for Trump, our Deadbeat In Chief. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--10.52pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy The poor. The poor are getting poorer because the Internet increases globalization. So far, the response has been: 1. Flood the RealEstate/Stock/Bond markets with a tsunami of freshly printed money. -- A classic Ponzi scheme. 2. Stimulus Payments. -- Yet Another Ponzi scheme. 3. " Urban Camping ", Hoovervilles. " Grapes of Wrath " migrations. -- Kills/Degrades/Scares people. 4. Eviction Moratoriums. -- Destroys/Degrades neighborhoods. ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 2c13af62-800c-483d-931e-016d0fb9b09fn@googlegroups.com Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 9010700d-dfb4-470b-8c1f-70b397f6d64do@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--8.35am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 62f650d6-3597-4f95-849c-8e7131407012n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--8.49pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ ca4e84a9-32d0-49d3-b660-e0a159c3adb5n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.24--8.12am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m237 Dropped; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, Oct 23 { 9:18pm, 2020 }: 8^(PDT) YʄЩ8 What's right for Einstein, is wrong for Tesla. Arindam replied ( to me ): > > Thermodynamics is another thing > > you only -pretend- to care about. > > I throw out old notions, > that are wrong or hideously wrong > ( entropy and relativity respectively ) Thermodynamics scares the living shit out of you. So you ignore it. Most people are like that, you're not alone. Again: In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. The earliest black holes are the largest and most powerful. 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ). 695 trillion suns. You could easily learn this (above), if you wanted to, but you don't. > > General Relativity is for high-tech, > > high-precision rocket scientists, > > GPS systems, not screenwriters. > > GR is for liars and thugs > pretending to be scientists. You're looking in the mirror when you say that. The only thing you can see is yourself; you don't even -want- to see anything else. > Engineering is not about general relativity, > which is a hoax, Why don't you try creating your own GPS system, without using general relativity, nor thermodynamics ?! > It is profitably used by fiction writers. A perverted form of it is used by countless people, such as yourself, for your -pedestrian- needs. > > But you're not designing high-precision > > clocks, like Einstein, 1905, > > in Switzerland. > > Tesla absolutely despised relativity. So what ?! Was he designing clocks ?! Which GPS systems did he design ?! > One has to expose wrong notions. Wrong for what ?! for who ?! You can't say. What's right for Einstein, is wrong for Tesla. ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 2c13af62-800c-483d-931e-016d0fb9b09fn@googlegroups.com Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 9010700d-dfb4-470b-8c1f-70b397f6d64do@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--8.35am.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 62f650d6-3597-4f95-849c-8e7131407012n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--8.49pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics -Dropped, 2.7 Hours, GoogleG, Oct 23 { 5:26pm, 2020 }:57^(PDT) YʄϲΒ You fool no one but yourself. Arindam asked: > > Everyone adopts various premises, > > depending on who they are, > > and how it might benefit them. > > That would not be scientific. > It would be political and commercial. Everything is " political and commercial ", always and forever, first and foremost. > > For most people here, adopting > > the axioms of general relativity > > simply isn't beneficial. > > It is a question of right or wrong, > not of benefit or loss, > in science and maths. Right for who ? Wrong for what ? General Relativity is for high-tech, high-precision rocket scientists, not screenwriters. Most people have no use for it; and they've no clue about it. > > It's _far_ more fruitful for them > > to believe in odd absurdities; > > so that's precisely what they do. > > In other words, they are swindlers > when they claim to be scientists. Believe what you want; call it "science", if you'd like; but you fool no one but yourself. > Unicorns exist, like black holes, > you do not know that, I do, > so give me money to bring you one. You've no use for general relativity, and you feel no need|desire to learn it; we all get that, it's obvious. But you're not designing high-precision clocks, like Einstein, 1905, in Switzerland. No one would hire you for that. > Why has black hole somehow become > a reality like the moon ? > Isn't it just theory, conjecture, etc. ? Why pretend to care ? Other than yourself, you're not fooling anyone. > > "God" (nature) programmed us to > > consume residual "eXergy" ( energy that > > can do "work", force * distance ) > > as the cosmos goes from infinitely > > hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. > > Energy is always getting created and > destroyed in our infinite universe. Net Net, eXergy is only ever destroyed, consumed... never created. Thermodynamics as another thing you only -pretend- to care about. > > "Randomness" is ignorance, not entropy; > > i.e. the future is just as fixed as the past; > > i.e. "God" (nature) is static, forever > > and always ( as Einstein preached ). > > > > Life is, at once, everything yet nothing. > > It is everything, till it becomes > even more in the afterlife. Believe what you want; call it "science", if you'd like; but you fool no one but yourself. ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 2c13af62-800c-483d-931e-016d0fb9b09fn@googlegroups.com Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ 9010700d-dfb4-470b-8c1f-70b397f6d64do@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--8.35am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m13 Cool; 11.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.130.49.27, Oct 23 { 8:11am, 2020 }: 5^(PDT) Yʄʗп Odd Absurdities. Arindam asked: > > Who in this newsgroup really > > believes in black holes ? Everyone adopts various premises, depending on who they are, and how it might benefit them. For most people here, adopting the axioms of general relativity simply isn't beneficial. It's _far_ more fruitful for them to believe in odd absurdities; so that's precisely what they do. Again: " (Pseudo)Randomness is Ignorance. " is the _only_ reasonable assumption. Obviously, the moon is still there, even when you're not looking at it. The theory of everything, including humans: A refrigerator has programming. An acorn has programming. A car has programming. Everything from a photon to a black hole has programming. "God" (nature) programmed us to consume residual "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work", force * distance ) as the cosmos goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "Randomness" is ignorance, not entropy; i.e. the future is just as fixed as the past; i.e. "God" (nature) is static, forever and always ( as Einstein preached ). Life is, at once, everything yet nothing. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.24pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc25bFpcmpU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.57pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc6flFpcmpU8@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--7.18pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc927FpcmpU13@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.22--2.48am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m74 Cool; 5.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 21 { 7:28pm, 2020 }:23 YʃʐЕ San Francisco is boarded up, ready to burn. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > Funny how the news never reaches you. > > Funny how your news is way, > way worse than my news. Democratdense-Run cities, like San Francisco, defaulted, allowing monopolies to run roughshod over your broadband business. Yet, somehow, you never noticed who was eating your lunch. > > The streets of Manhattan are boarded up, > > ready to burn, mom-and-pop shops first. > > Sillycone valley isn't Manhattan. San Francisco is boarded up, ready to burn. Google: boarded up windows, San Francisco. Even if there were police to catch them, it's just catch-n-release... because Democrats never met a vice they didn't love. > And I'll bet your bleak view is slightly > tainted by the memory of _Escape from New York_. Maybe so, but your view is tainted by: Big Tech and the deep state dominating TV, Twitter, and Facebook, shadow-banning Trump supporters, promoting Biden. > > Government plans to "improve" healthcare, > > by making it more like the DMV, > > would be the icing on this Detroit cake. > > When was the last time you had a physical ? 1985, maybe. What did the Democrats do to prevent " The United States of Detroit " from becoming a living hell ? Raising wages, and cutting hours, doesn't work unless you're willing to erect massive trade barriers, so poor nations can't compete. ■ MrChrisV t1q0pfd76e976n42ep8ei84sfi4nqbt6v0@4ax.com DFS ca%jH.162404$6w2.47261@fx44.iad ScottDoty rmqi5e$5sj$2@dont-email.me DFS 7t5kH.355361$I15.270973@fx36.iad ScottDoty rmqser$5sj$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.22--2.22am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m74 Cool; 5.3 Hours, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 21 { 7:57pm, 2020 }:31 Yʃʕμ Democrat-run cities defaulted. Scott Doty wrote: > U.S. Broadband deployment, most people have > a choice between "incumbent cable operator" > and "incumbent telephone operator". > > That happened _by design_, > by Republicans, under BushCo. > > That's what happens when you "deregulate" > a market, and then fail to referee the > market for over a decade. Wrong, Democrat-run cities defaulted, feasting on " money for nothing ", DMV style. > How in Gawd's Green Earth did you > [DFS] get permabanned from Youtube ? DFS calls Atlanta "ApeLanta". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--4.04pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvbvp7FpcmpU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.24pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc25bFpcmpU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.57pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc6flFpcmpU8@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--7.18pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m71 Cool; 8 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 21 { 6:44pm, 2020 }:21 Yʃʉʍ The streets of Manhattan are boarded up. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > Democrats made America like Detroit; > > Republicans had nothing to do it. > > But America isn't "like Detroit" > -- it's America, baby. Funny how the news never reaches you. The streets of Manhattan are boarded up, ready to burn, mom-and-pop shops first. Even if there were police to catch them, it's just catch-n-release... because Democrats never met a vice they didn't love. > Republicans ( and " blue dog democrats " ) > have everything to do with the offshoring > of America's work force. You'd raise tariffs, instead of competing on a level field ? ....instead of sharing our wealth with poorer countries ? If so, we're going to need a bigger wall. Government plans to "improve" healthcare, by making it more like the DMV, would be the icing on this Detroit cake. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.24pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc25bFpcmpU2@mid.individual.net Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net rmqkdr$ko2$3@dont-email.me ScottDoty hvc3t0FpcmpU4@mid.individual.net Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net rmqn48$325$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty hvc5nbFpcmpU7@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--6.50pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m70 Cool; 8.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 21 { 6:31pm, 2020 }:23 Yʃʇɓ Change our diapers ! Janithor: > > Virtue signaling is infantile stupidity. For the longest time, I thought the zombie hordes, blocking the streets of Seattle and Portland, were chanting " Change our diapers ! ". Silly me. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--6.09pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvbrpnFncfdU8@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--4.04pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvbvp7FpcmpU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.24pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvc25bFpcmpU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.57pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m68 Cool; 9.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 21 { 5:30pm, 2020 }:35 YʃɽZ " a worker's paradise ", really ?! Scott replied ( to me ): > > virtue [signaling] > > Jeff's pejorative term for > "being on the right side of history". Like Karl Marx, who hid the son he got from fucking is maid ?! Yeah, that guy was on the right side of history -- hypocrisy won. China's caste system is worse than India; yet they claim it's " a worker's paradise ". " a worker's paradise ", really ?! Democrats made America like Detroit; Republicans had nothing to do it. P.S. Usually, speech-to-text gives me: " virtual singling "... and I don't catch it. P.P.S. if Biden wins, even more people will be leaving California. ■ MrChrisV t1q0pfd76e976n42ep8ei84sfi4nqbt6v0@4ax.com DFS ca%jH.162404$6w2.47261@fx44.iad ScottDoty rmqi5e$5sj$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.38pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m67 Cool; 27.2 Minutes, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 21 { 5: 1pm, 2020 }:50 Yʃɸɮ Big Tech and the deep state. Scott Doty: > A _fair_ market knows best. > Market isn't fair when there's a monopoly. Big Tech and the deep state monopolize TV, Twitter, and Facebook, shadow-banning Trump supporters, promoting Biden. Why ? Because they're afraid of Trump. Like the CCP, they can't tolerate diverse opinions. Diversity of skin color gets lipservice; diversity of opinion get shut down ASAP. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.25pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hv9fbbF57abU11@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--6.09pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvbrpnFncfdU8@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--4.04pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvbvp7FpcmpU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--5.24pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m65 Cool; 9.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 21 { 4:49pm, 2020 }:59 Yʃɶɷ Leaving California. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > The whole nation looks like Detroit. > > > > The Democrats did it; > > not the Republicans. > > > > You have to believe [ as Biden ], > > to justify your life of leisure, > > at my expense. > > How on Earth would I have > this " life of leisure ", > "at" your "expense"? Why did you scare-quote " life of leisure " ?! I'm well-aware of where/how you live; your house, and vehicles. Is there something you haven't told me ?! Does " virtue signaling ", like Bill Gates, Hugh Huntzinger, Joe Biden and Jeff Bezos, make you feel better ?! Do you freaks know what it's like to see a young girl get her face sliced over a cigarette ?! Again: If you got good credit [ like Scott Doty ], you can live off loans; no need to work, no need to provide electricity. The green new deal: Blackouts. If your credit is bad, good news. . . you can violently, destructively steal with impunity. Beat up cops, laser their eyes, with the city's blessing. The whole nation looks like Detroit. Meanwhile, Scott Doty doesn't care, couldn't care, can't care, because his reality is different, far away from it all, protected, like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. You believe what you have to believe, to get by, but it doesn't jive with my reality. ■ ScottDoty hv8r5lF57abU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rmnmj3$ba2$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.25pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hv9fbbF57abU11@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--6.09pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hvbrpnFncfdU8@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--4.04pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m63 Cool; 6.4 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 21 { 3:41pm, 2020 }:59 Yʃɪჵ Leaving California. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > Mom-n-Pop businesses/rentals are boarded up, > > ready to be burned down, Detroit style. > > > > Welcome to the United States of Detroit. > > Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. > > That doesn't make a [lick] of sense. It would if you're in one of those boarded up buildings, like I am, waiting to get burned out. Are you enjoying California's blackouts, and the poorly managed forests ? When you pay taxes, does it feel like you're getting your money's worth ?! A lot of very prominent, wealthy individuals, leaving California, disagree with you. > If you're going to be tossing > around non sequiturs [...] You believe what you have to believe, to get by, but it doesn't jive with my reality. > try to control your pejorative language > so your ire is properly directed. kthx. The whole nation looks like Detroit. The Democrats did it; not the Republicans. You have to believe, to justify your life of leisure, at my expense. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--8.12am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy The theory of everything, including humans. " (Pseudo)Randomness is Ignorance. " is the _only_ reasonable assumption. Obviously, the moon is still there, even when you're not looking at it. " Many Worlds " puts money in your pocket, if you're a Hollywood screenwriter, but, most obviously, it's _not_ anywhere close to reality. The Pope truly _needs_ to believe what he believes, as do I, and everyone else. It's _far_ more fruitful for Hollywood to believe in absurdities; so that's precisely what they do. Likewise for YouTubers, of course. The theory of everything, including humans: A refrigerator has programming. An acorn has programming. A car has programming. Everything from a photon to a black hole has programming. "God" (nature) programmed us to consume residual "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work", force * distance ) as the cosmos goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "Randomness" is ignorance, not entropy; i.e. the future is just as fixed as the past; i.e. "God" (nature) is static, forever and always ( as Einstein preached ). Life is, at once, everything yet nothing. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rma8rt$20p$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty hv8r5lF57abU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rmnmj3$ba2$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.25pm.Seattle.2020 ScottDoty hv9fbbF57abU11@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--6.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m62 Cool; 3.2 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 20 { 5:57pm, 2020 }:16 YʂϷΦ Getting paid more for doing less. Scott replied ( to me ): > > Masks make Scott Doty feel better; > > because he envisions himself as a surgery patient. > > Besides, it justifies the way he rejects work. > > Who am I to deny him ?! > > What "work" do I "reject" ? The politicization of the virus is about getting paid more for doing less, -- the primary theme of all Democrats. For example, they would run hospitals like the post office and the DMV. Again: Mom-n-Pop businesses/rentals are boarded up, ready to be burned down, Detroit style. Welcome to the United States of Detroit. Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. ■ Ayaz_Siddiqi│ayaz_s_siddiqi tpIjH.485720$T3E.395350@fx49.ams4 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--2.18pm.Seattle.2020 Ayaz_Siddiqi│ayaz_s_siddiqi eDIjH.451268$mP7.178257@fx47.ams4 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.16pm.Seattle.2020 Ayaz_Siddiqi│ayaz_s_siddiqi srJjH.81435$r_7.14851@fx24.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.44pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 9.1 Minutes, PiaoHong_Usenet_Client_Fr, HighWinds➤Newsdemon.COM, Oct 20 { 3:23pm, 2020 }:20^(GMT+01:00) Yʂψю 695 trillion suns. Ayaz replied ( to me ): > > The cosmos is forever going from infinitely > > hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. > > > > You can reject thermodynamics, > > if you need to, for some odd reason, > > but then you'd be rejecting reality. > > Can we not predict at what mass > a black hole will become > unstable and disintegrate ? > > Would this give birth > to stars and galaxies? Black holes get progressively smaller/weaker as time goes by; it's basic thermodynamics. In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. The earliest black holes are the largest and most powerful. 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ). 695 trillion suns. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--1.42pm.Seattle.2020 Arindam_Banerjee│ 27002237-d326-4115-b840-fca17f294abdn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.35pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m241 Dropped; 13.9 Minutes, GoogleG, Oct 20 { 3:18pm, 2020 }:31^(PDT) YʂψV DemoRats created Detroit. Arindam replied ( to me ): > > Mom-n-Pop businesses/rentals are boarded up, > > ready to get burned down, Detroit style. > > > > Welcome to the United States of Detroit. > > Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. > > So what to do ? You Americans love > capitalism so much. > > But capitalists don't love you. > They screw you. DemoRats created Detroit, not capitalists. ■ HughHuntzinger 1ca0a557-d404-429f-a575-bb87b84edc02o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rmmvn9$umk$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger cab0bfa5-cbc2-4820-9587-d3fd9632916fo@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rmnapr$r98$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 8af3141f-f0b5-4aad-b23a-6ec4793c89a0o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rmnknq$2ru$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.31pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m42 Cool; 50.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 20 { 2:27pm, 2020 }:23 Yʂοδ Hugh Huntzinger needs his little victories. Steve, Hugh needs his little victories; so please stop interfering with his efforts to turn America into Detroit. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rma8rt$20p$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty hv8r5lF57abU1@mid.individual.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rmnmj3$ba2$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.25pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m130 Cool; 18.8 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 20 { 2:58pm, 2020 }:59 Yʂτй Scott Doty rejects work. Masks make Scott Doty feel better; because he envisions himself as a surgery patient. Besides, it justifies the way he rejects work. Who am I to deny him ?! ■ Ayaz_Siddiqi│ayaz_s_siddiqi tpIjH.485720$T3E.395350@fx49.ams4 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--2.18pm.Seattle.2020 Ayaz_Siddiqi│ayaz_s_siddiqi eDIjH.451268$mP7.178257@fx47.ams4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.16pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 41.6 Minutes, PiaoHong_Usenet_Client_Fr, HighWinds➤Newsdemon.COM, Oct 20 { 2:27pm, 2020 }:38^(GMT+01:00) Yʂοσ Thermodynamics. Ayaz replied ( to me ): > > The cosmos is forever going from infinitely > > hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. > > OK let's just take a reality check and > do some real physics shall we ? > Something we can observe and test. You can reject thermodynamics, if you need to, for some odd reason, but then you'd be rejecting reality. ■ Ayaz_Siddiqi│ayaz_s_siddiqi tpIjH.485720$T3E.395350@fx49.ams4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--2.18pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 2.6 Minutes, PiaoHong_Usenet_Client_Fr, HighWinds➤Newsdemon.COM, Oct 20 { 2:12pm, 2020 }:58^(GMT+01:00) Yʂνw "God" (nature) programmed us. Ayaz Siddiqi asked: > Cud it bee the universe is continuously > evolving, creating new galaxies and > solar systems all the time ? A refrigerator has programming. An acorn has programming. A car has programming. Everything from a photon to a black hole has programming. "God" (nature) programmed us to consume residual "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work", force * distance ) as the cosmos goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "Randomness" is ignorance, not entropy; i.e. the future is just as fixed as the past; i.e. "God" (nature) is static, forever and always ( as Einstein preached ). Life is, at once, everything yet nothing. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--1.46pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. I get the feeling that lots of people, not just me, are sick of tech moguls "virtue signaling" ( " orange man bad " ) from their mansions in New Zealand and Iceland, surrounded by bodyguards. Do they know what it's like for a young girl to get her face sliced for cigarette ?! If you got good credit, you can live off loans; no need to work, no need to provide electricity. The green new deal: Blackouts. If your credit is bad, good news. . . you can violently, destructively steal with impunity. Beat up cops, laser their eyes, with the city's blessing. Mom-n-Pop businesses/rentals are boarded up, ready to be burned down, Detroit style. Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--1.42pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. I get the feeling that lots of people, not just me, are sick of tech moguls "virtue signaling" ( " orange man bad " ) from their mansions in New Zealand and Iceland, surrounded by bodyguards. Moe Do they know what it's like for a young girl to get her face sliced for cigarette ?! If you got good credit, you can live off loans; no need to work, no need to provide electricity. The green new deal: Blackouts. If your credit is bad, good news. . . you can violently, destructively steal with impunity. Beat up cops, laser their eyes, with the city's blessing. Mom-n-Pop businesses/rentals are boarded up, ready to get burned down, Detroit style. Pro(Re)gressive cities have defaulted. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.14am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Eventually, Maybe, Possibly. With "loans" (rent) so cheap these days, and no obligation to repay... Why work ? no need to supply electricity or goods. Bad credit ? no problem, just steal -- no jail time. Feel like attacking cops and/or burning down mom-and-pop shops ? No problem, we got you covered, no jail time -- the city is defaulting. Worried about the future ? You shouldn't be; politicians will get to it, eventually, maybe, possibly. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 0b23ee0f-6e3b-437f-81ca-73d89f395dbbn@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hv45ttF5o0cU1@mid.individual.net Mitchell_Raemsch 16c3181f-2c02-4362-a524-43380ed0f2een@googlegroups.com Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ f4f3ec83-faec-4e5c-8211-5077a9918e43o@googlegroups.com ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rmiuke$75g$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--8.25pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m83 Top; 25.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Oct 18 { 7:45pm, 2020 }:36^(-5) Yʁʓρ Quasi-Physics. Mitchell, Sylvia, Ed & Sergio: > > > > > why hasn't the ocean bottom realigned ? > > > > > > > > What do you mean by realigned ? > > > > > > You must be dumb. > > > I mean magnetic realignment... > > > > The poles haven't flipped yet. > > but, if he uses a compass to get to work, > and the poles flip, he'll be lost ! I've nominated all 4 of you to receive the Nobel Prize in quasi-physics. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--10.14am.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rmi2t1$62u$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--1.26pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m36 Cool; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 18 { 11:52am, 2020 }:17 YʁȺϿ Big tech and the deep state. Steve: > cue up the "science" crowd to 'explain' differently, > that the Constitution does allow for this > bizarre version of sovereignty Together, big tech and the deep state suck all the money out of the system, leaving no room for dissent. As a result, the poor get poorer. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--1.09pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Impoverishing the poorest. Together, big tech and government are destroying the little guys, punching a huge, gaping hole in the GDP, impoverishing the poorest. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--10.15am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics Destroying small, local businesses/landlords. Political parties are cults, religions. Everyone has a good reason for believing in their version of "reality". Democrats are all about unions, and the requisite monopolies. Unions would die in a minute if it wasn't for government monopolies. Big Tech billionaires, Democrats, cluelessly " virtue signal " while destroying small, local businesses/landlords, including gig workers, trashing the economy. ■ HughHuntzinger 3e21b5e0-cf8f-406a-92dc-02d2bed05533o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rmajkh$dj7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.04pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rmcd0f$vo9$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--8.21am.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rmcf06$25i$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--10.48am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m32 Shifty; 19.9 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 16 { 8:41am, 2020 }:58 YɿТჴ The Pope truly -needs- to believe. You can't convert the Pope. The Pope truly -needs- to believe what he believes, as do I, and everyone else. Arguments are futile unless-n-until you can agree on the basic assumptions, e.g. "God" ( a man ) created nature. But how does one do that when one believes, as I do, that: " God is nature, nothing more, nothing less. " ? Same goes for Snit and Hugh Huntzinger; there's no convincing them. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--10.25am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy The 20 $ henchman. This morning, random text messages informed me that there was a price on my head. I wasn't told why, but I assume it's because Albert L. Esposito ( room 5 ) "needs" to move to a nicer place, but can't, because he's 1.5 months behind in rent. Being stuck here is threatening his life, he reasons, due to his delicate medical condition ( foot surgeries, diabetes ). He glued-shut Mewded Equbay's ( room 2 ) door, including the keyhole, same as mine; so there's a pattern. I replied ( to my attacker, via text ): How much are you paying him, 20 $ ?! If money is the issue, many charities are ready-n-willing to help. Let me know if you need other help. My plan is to reason with the 20 $ henchman, if he approaches me, and offer him 40 $. ■ HughHuntzinger 1806b62f-6e6e-4d32-a358-f005ba089e35o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rma5jp$et4$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 3e21b5e0-cf8f-406a-92dc-02d2bed05533o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rmajkh$dj7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.04pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rmcd0f$vo9$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--8.21am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m31 Shifty; 2.7 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 16 { 8: 7am, 2020 }:59 YɿНɷ You can't change Snit's "mind". Re: Hugh Huntzinger's PseudoScience. People believe what they -need- to believe, no matter the truth. This is why arguments never work; you can't change Snit's "mind". ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--6.05pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics PseudoScience is their primary weapon. When Democrats get their way, the GDP falls dramatically. Fat Democrats are fundamentally incompatible with small, local shops, landlords and gig workers trying to eke out a living. PseudoScience is their primary weapon. ■ HughHuntzinger 47a5588a-6929-43bc-aaa0-e130a758b4feo@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rm59n0$12n$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--6.55pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rm7ckj$fbp$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--3.14pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rm9lov$k0j$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--9.23am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m26 Shifty; 50.2 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 15 { 7:19am, 2020 }:11 YɿNȽ "ZeroHedge.COM" is my primary news source. Steve replied ( to me ): > > "alternative" media > > is rising up, dominating. > > it's the same 'news', > for the most part, isn't it ? TV and Hollywood are losing their monopoly; the (diverse) Internet is replacing it. "ZeroHedge.COM" is my primary news source; also, these YouTube channels: Fox News, Breitbart News, Timcast, KING 5 (Seattle), Salty Cracker, TomoNews US, Lasse Burholt, Louis Rossmann, Economics Explained, Voice of North Korea by Yeonmi Park > > Like Reagan, 1981, > > Trump will bust these guys. > > No other outcome is reasonable. > > It's for that very reason > I expect he'll lose; there's > -not- a lot of reasoning > going on, as of late. Smart people don't vote; instead, we roll with the punches, adjust, and enjoy the soap opera. Some idiot tried to glue my door shut last night, including the keyhole. If Biden wins, then we haven't hit rock bottom yet. I'm patient, 10 years is nothing to me. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--3.19pm.Seattle.2020 ！Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rm82ml$md6$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--8.51pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m74 Top; 3.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Oct 14 { 4:47pm, 2020 }:35^(-5) Yɾϝო In China, scofflaws disappear. To answer your question, Sergio, the scofflaws should be placed in " special housing " (jail). In the Philippines, they're killed on sight, no trial. In China, they disappear. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.14--3.19pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics No other outcome is reasonable. Biden is the champion of soul-destroying lockdowns. Unions champion "lockdowns" ( less work, more pay ). Like Reagan, 1981, Trump will bust these guys. Joy Villa makes Hollywood look stupid; not vice versa. Trump makes Hollywood look stupid; he's gaining ground, Hollywood is losing. Trump is TV's bread-and-butter; if Biden gets elected, they'll bash him too. AntiFa is talking about burning down Biden's house. Like Portland's Mayor, the AntiFa champion, Biden will have to run and hide. Like Reagan, 1981, Trump will bust these guys. No other outcome is reasonable. ■ HughHuntzinger a0f1d245-de91-45e2-a87b-589dcf4a902eo@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rm4q23$hcg$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 18b6d3b8-d48c-4058-b998-acc8d87fd6c1o@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rm533t$i3k$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 47a5588a-6929-43bc-aaa0-e130a758b4feo@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rm59n0$12n$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--6.55pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m20 Shifty; 2.8 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 13 { 3:28pm, 2020 }:49 YɽღЯ If Biden wins, stagflation is next. Lockdowns are a stealth strike, and Trump is playing the role of union-busting Reagan, 1981. Biden wants lockdowns because he represents the defaulting government employees, with the fat pensions, " calling in sick ". In this war, monopolies are winning, big time, at the expense of smaller, local vendors/landlords. If Biden wins, stagflation is next; the stock market will drop like a rock. P.S. I don't vote, and I know that my City Council matters more ( to me ) than the POTUS. ■ TheRealSteve rlsqtm$5jr$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 815f03cd-ecea-41b9-b42e-8218ed443674n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rltfej$bj7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger ac99a3a9-fecf-48c3-bc15-dd4cd225d5d7n@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--6.22am.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rm24ll$ido$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--7.26pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m13 Cool; 6.4 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 12 { 10:44am, 2020 }:21 Yɽvʍ Click Bait sells. Content smells. Steve: > Making everything about Trump 24/7/365 > for 4 years has done a lot of damage > that obscures the real issues for too many. Click Bait sells. Content smells. Seattle's " City Council " is bankrupting everyone. They get fat off taxes, and do nothing but " Virtue Signal ". ■ TheRealSteve rlql66$pcm$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 57a25d15-1333-4c7e-a56c-70dcf7e8be66n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rlsqtm$5jr$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 815f03cd-ecea-41b9-b42e-8218ed443674n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rltfej$bj7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger ac99a3a9-fecf-48c3-bc15-dd4cd225d5d7n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--6.22am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m71 Top; 1 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Oct 12 { 5:19am, 2020 }:44^(PDT) Yɽ3ɨ Follow the money. Hugh Huntzinger: > All the conspiracy theory crap that > [ CoVid19 is ] a way to stoke fear > is bullshit, > and needs to be put down hard. Follow the money. Covid-19 is a fraudulent excuse for anyone-n-everyone to default, to call-in sick. Our (sad) "choices": 1. Social Security benefits rise with the pace of actual, true inflation. e.g. Stimulus Payments. Future generations pay for it. 2. Urban rents drop dramatically. e.g. Eviction Moratoriums. Destroys/Degrades neighborhoods. 3. More tents get pitched on the sidewalk. " Urban Camping ", Hoovervilles. " Grapes of Wrath " migrations. Kills/Degrades/Scares people. ■ MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rlrhce$6fq$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rlsn3m$ca3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rlsnj9$kpm$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rlsrq1$5jr$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--2.20pm.Seattle.2020 TheRealSteve rlthk1$m4s$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--11.01pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m11 Cool; 2.9 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 10 { 4:54pm, 2020 }:41 Yɻჵf If you enjoy lies, Kamala is your man. Steve: > The Biden/Harris administration > is going to be an 'interesting' > one in U.S. history. > > I think I'll go throw up now. Living in Colorado and/or Seattle you might not know about the women in swing states, like Florida, who respect Trump's honesty. If you enjoy lies, Kamala is your man. ■ DFS GEDfH.279736$hQ4.90549@fx39.iad Stephane_Tougard│stephane@sdf_ r7i75h-c3n.ln1@clipper.unices.org DFS pK9gH.121768$cc1.21242@fx29.iad TheRealSteve rlsq3e$5jr$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS HsmgH.103573$lZ.9827@fx12.iad TheRealSteve rlst4c$5jr$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--2.37pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m13 Cool; 1.9 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 10 { 11: 5am, 2020 }: Yɻкк Florida loves Trump. Steve wrote: > Trump is done. [...] > > No one 'handles' Trump, > which is why he's on his way out > ( well, that and his big mouth ). Florida loves Trump; hence, he'll be re-elected. Fearing retribution, "Shy Voters", especially women, lie to "bullies" ( pollsters ). In this world, where everyone is lying their ass off (defaulting), Trump is a breath of fresh air. ■ HughHuntzinger 2da72455-8b6a-4f24-a804-27a157bf8506n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rlql66$pcm$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rlrhce$6fq$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rlsn3m$ca3$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rlsnj9$kpm$1@dont-email.me TheRealSteve rlsrq1$5jr$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--2.20pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m13 Cool; 2.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 10 { 10:42am, 2020 }:25 YɻзP China doesn't have food stamps. Steve replied ( to mGhost ): > > [ America is losing its ] > > status as the world leader. > > Given what "the world" has > become, I'm fine with that; > in fact, I look forward to it. China doesn't have food stamps, much less disability payments; it's run like Cosa Nostra, the mob. Corruption is essential/embedded; if you denounce Chairman Xi, you'll be convicted. Still, it gained ground via its superior culture, hard work, and capitalism. In Japan, capitalism is dying; the government owns 80 % of the stock "market". America and Europe would be lucky to achieve Japan's ( greatly diminished ) status. Globally, lies dominate. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlo4g9$7sr$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 2da72455-8b6a-4f24-a804-27a157bf8506n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rlql66$pcm$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 57a25d15-1333-4c7e-a56c-70dcf7e8be66n@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rlsqtm$5jr$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org HughHuntzinger 815f03cd-ecea-41b9-b42e-8218ed443674n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--1.23pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m72 Top; 51.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Oct 10 { : 7pm, 2020 }:28^(PDT) Yɻхɘ Dog ate my homework. Hugh Huntzinger asked: > Where . Is . The . Data ? Nowhere. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. Covid-19 is a fraudulent excuse for everyone-n-anyone to default, " dog ate my homework " style. Eventually ( decades from now ? ), the pendulum will swing the other way, and honesty will be valued, yet again. Today, "science" is slimy politics. Nothing is greener than " Greenhouse Earth ". China is over-fishing and over-polluting; yet, oddly, Greta Thunberg doesn't care. Refreshingly, Trump is smarter than CNN; CNN and Jeff Bezos' Washington Post are dying that slow, agonizing death. ■ MrChrisV c43snfdic3p73s8ue7jep8l4iekfj3t6e9@4ax.com SpamBot sorfH.264053$r25.236743@fx08.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlmmes$496$1@dont-email.me DFS GEDfH.279736$hQ4.90549@fx39.iad Stephane_Tougard│stephane@sdf_ r7i75h-c3n.ln1@clipper.unices.org DFS pK9gH.121768$cc1.21242@fx29.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--9.56pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m196 Top; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 9 { 8:18pm, 2020 }:45^(-4) Yɻʙj Nothing is greener than " Greenhouse Earth ". DFS wrote: > I won't vote for a Democrat, > if I can help it. > I'll write in a Republican. I don't care if Trump is gets laid or not. I don't care if he -loves- the limelight. Today, "science" is slimy politics. Nothing is greener than " Greenhouse Earth ". China is over-fishing and over-polluting; yet, oddly, Greta Thunberg doesn't care. Bill Gates has devolved into a sad eccentric. Covid-19 is a fraudulent excuse for everyone-n-anyone to default. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are lying their asses off. Trump is 50 times smarter than CNN; CNN and Jeff Bezos' Washington Post are dying a slow, agonizing death. Eventually ( decades from now ? ), the pendulum will swing the other way, and honesty will be valued, yet again. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlo4g9$7sr$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 2da72455-8b6a-4f24-a804-27a157bf8506n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--8.42pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmateseas ╱ 1 m72 Top; 21.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Oct 8 { 7:59pm, 2020 }: ^(PDT) YɺЛк Figures don't lie, but liars figure. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to RonB ): > > given the over-reporting of "Covid deaths", > > the IFR is likely even lower than 0.14%, > > and could show Covid to be much less > > dangerous than flu. > > ...and the lie here is in the unsupported > assumption of 10% worldwide infection rate > that's used to make their claim. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. The lockdown is a fraudulent excuse to favor soaring asset prices (handouts), over profits, honesty, and management. What are you going to do, Hugh Huntzinger, when the pendulum swings the other way, and profits, hard work, honesty and management suddenly matter again ?! Again: Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction is a basic human right. When the (infirm) state defaults, forcing enemies to reside together, things get real ugly, real fast. Lives are lost. ■ MrChrisV r19rnf55eo1oplp7v35eg3m5a1r0v6gsni@4ax.com anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rll1cf$rn9$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV c43snfdic3p73s8ue7jep8l4iekfj3t6e9@4ax.com SpamBot sorfH.264053$r25.236743@fx08.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlmmes$496$1@dont-email.me anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rlnj04$dko$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--2.40pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m38 Cool; 3.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 8 { 10:41am, 2020 }:24^(-6) YɺΑგ Snit votes DemoRat because... Snit votes DemoRat to ensure that his children, and his children's children, always get those fat government checks ( in exchange for his vote ). ■ MrChrisV mljrnf5a1fi74r0mhuvo1sadnm0ai7elnl@4ax.com FabianRussell rlkkpm01lvv@news2.newsguy.com MrChrisV mf0snf9d7dh988uev9aup321ehoeembgtr@4ax.com DFS BPDfH.209758$GQ4.20736@fx02.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--7.04am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 4n7unft2nmnj6qacqt3ce6tdqkscalj4mn@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--7.30am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m144 Dropped; 2.1 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Oct 8 { 7:21am, 2020 }:38^(-5) Yɺʏσ MrChrisV wants/needs to believe... Dear ChrisV, Right from the start, I told you, repeatedly, ad nauseam: I turn on -all- warnings ( Level 4 ) with " Warnings as Errors " before selectively disabling the ones that -I- don't need or want. Again: It's a personal choice, it depends on who you are; I explain myself here: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM For some random reason, you don't want to hear this. Instead, you want/need to believe I'm a horrible coder; so this'll all be " snipped, unread ". ■ DFS ao3fH.103523$lZ.43670@fx12.iad FabianRussell rlkd7801gi2@news2.newsguy.com MrChrisV mljrnf5a1fi74r0mhuvo1sadnm0ai7elnl@4ax.com FabianRussell rlkkpm01lvv@news2.newsguy.com MrChrisV mf0snf9d7dh988uev9aup321ehoeembgtr@4ax.com DFS BPDfH.209758$GQ4.20736@fx02.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--7.04am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 3 m183 Top; 57.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 8 { 5:42am, 2020 }:12^(-4) YɺɿC MrChrisV created a straw man. MrChrisV created a straw man that has me rejecting -all- warnings. I've told him, many times, that I turn on -all- warnings ( Level 4 ) with " Warnings as Errors " before selectively disabling the ones that -I- don't need or want. It's a personal choice, it depends on who you are; I explain myself here: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlion6$aku$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV gdqpnft5b4pcbaifo6882rikjuqfbq9d1k@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 68cdc83b-f178-400e-a91b-c512a39190b3o@googlegroups.com MrChrisV 0n3qnf1upc8vpsae2j5b61um69al50o2bu@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rljol3$dc8$2@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 5623da33-1e5c-44b8-a99d-174a1bd777deo@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--0.31pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m67 Top; 6.9 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Oct 7 { 5:13am, 2020 }: 7^(PDT) Yɹϰȹ Money for nothing, and chicks for free. Like every DemoRat, Hugh Huntzinger is trying to scare us, to protect his big, fat government checks, his: Money for nothing, and chicks for free. Day after day, year after year, decade after decade, he won't/can't stop doing this. " Be scared ! ", he says. And DemoRats are the majority; so we have to work around it, we have to live with this damage. ■ MrChrisV 0ismnftgg2kojoqpopms2v2oqtva5onidf@4ax.com DFS bJ3fH.125306$BL.41937@fx16.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--2.22pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV l3qpnflacauvd1iibqrstig75mo7qv1bdl@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--4.25pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV a90qnfp5c40tp2q24pi20uq7nstolho48u@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--5.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m135 Dropped; 54 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Oct 6 { 4:48pm, 2020 }:46^(-5) Yɹɶk Trump has no symptoms, say doctors. ChrisV asked me: > > > Is it factual, that the last few days, > > > Trump has been feeling better > > > than he has for 20 years, Relf ? > > > > Yes, according to the man himself: > > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313267615083761665 > > (rolling eyes) > You take that literally, do you ? > The man is sick, MrRelf. Trump has no symptoms, say doctors. One hour ago: " Trump's doctors say he's doing extremely well, no symptoms ": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cpi3QfNsXA > you're kooky... ....ChrisV said, looking in the mirror, ignoring everyone-n-everything else. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--6.16am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 4t0pnfpl00k7h0fia0tca1ct2cb2fi33bp@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--8.03am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV pu5pnfpbtavgcvl6kmdob972n1ri7vp9sn@4ax.com Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid 1mqpnfhf6li5es4rb9odna0fqf4d83lejh@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--4.42pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m170 Dropped; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Oct 6 { 3: 8pm, 2020 }:21^(-6) Yɹɥʍ Rich DemoRats, like Bill Gates. Skeeter replied ( to ChrisV ): > > You know that no one with billions > > of dollars is a true liberal, right ? > > > > [ Having, myself, donated more than > > The Bill Gates Foundation, I know that ] > > a good person would use most of that money > > to help people, instead of [on] themselves. > > What the hell does that have > to do with anything ? He snips -everything- "unread", so you can't see what he's replying to; to wit: Rich DemoRats, like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, are absolutely clueless about the effects they have on poor people, like me, when they seek praise for their "virtue signaling", releasing prisoners and stopping evictions, sending the dregs of the world down upon me, so I bear the burden, while they're off enjoying their mansions and security guards. ■ FabianRussell rlanhf0ikp@news3.newsguy.com MrChrisV 0ismnftgg2kojoqpopms2v2oqtva5onidf@4ax.com DFS bJ3fH.125306$BL.41937@fx16.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--2.22pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV l3qpnflacauvd1iibqrstig75mo7qv1bdl@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--4.25pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m134 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Oct 6 { 3: 2pm, 2020 }:46^(-5) Yɹɤʦ MrChrisV should lay off the Adderall. MrChrisV asked me: > Is it factual, that the last few days, > Trump has been feeling better > than he has for 20 years, Relf ? Yes, according to the man himself: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313267615083761665 > If anyone needs meds, it's you. Why ? Because I'm more informed than you ? You should lay off the Adderall; perhaps then you'll realize that your shit -does- stink, sometimes. ■ FabianRussell rlanhf0ikp@news3.newsguy.com MrChrisV 0ismnftgg2kojoqpopms2v2oqtva5onidf@4ax.com DFS bJ3fH.125306$BL.41937@fx16.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--2.22pm.Seattle.2020 Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--2.41pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy +Top, 17.4 Minutes, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 6 { 2:22pm, 2020 }:36^(Seattle) YɹɝТ Virtue Signaling. I meant to say "virtue signaling", not "virtual signaling". ■ FabianRussell rlanhf0ikp@news3.newsguy.com MrChrisV 0ismnftgg2kojoqpopms2v2oqtva5onidf@4ax.com DFS bJ3fH.125306$BL.41937@fx16.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--2.22pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 5 m173 Top; 59.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 6 { :37pm, 2020 }:32^(-4) YɹɄɜ ChrisV must be abusing Adderall. DFS reported: > Relf: > " Testing is how you know if the code > works or not, not compile-time warnings. " > > shitv: > " Heh. One doesn't need to be a pro, > to know how stupid that is... " ChrisV must be abusing Adderall; what else could explain the fact that he -never- thinks his shit stinks ?! Today, I told him: // Covid has been good to Trump. // // Last few days, // he's been feeling better // than he has for 20 years. // // He climbed that long/high stairway, // no problem. His response: // ( gibberish snipped [everything] ) // Relf makes Dunces look like Geniuses "Gibberish" ?! Did I lie ?! Was I counterfactual ?! I don't get it. Again: Unlike Trump, DemoRats are ScaredyCats. Biden cowered in the corner, dodging questions, while Trump debated the moderator. Still, mindless TV pundits say Biden won. DemoRats are all about collecting huge paychecks for doing nothing -- to keep doing that, they must keep Americans as scared as possible. The only reason DemoRats ever win is because most Americans depend on those fat government checks. Rich DemoRats, like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, are absolutely clueless about the effects they have on poor people, like me, when they seek praise for their "virtue signaling", releasing prisoners and stopping evictions, sending the dregs of the world down upon me, so I bear the burden, while they're off enjoying their mansions and security guards. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--6.16am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 4t0pnfpl00k7h0fia0tca1ct2cb2fi33bp@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--8.03am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m121 Dropped; 2.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Oct 6 { 7:52am, 2020 }:10^(-5) YɹSϸ Unlike Trump, DemoRats are ScaredyCats. MrChrisV opined: > it's a bit early to be declaring > Trump's victory over corona virus. Covid has been good to him. Last few days, Trump has been feeling better than he has for 20 years. He climbed that long/high stairway, no problem. Unlike Trump, DemoRats are ScaredyCats. The only reason DemoRats ever win is because most Americans depend on those fat government checks. Rich people, like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, are absolutely clueless about the effects they have on poor people, like me, when they seek praise for their virtual signaling, releasing prisoners and stopping evictions, sending the dregs of the world down upon me, so I bear the burden, while they're off enjoying their mansions and security guards. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--6.16am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Trump makes DemoRats look like ScaredyCats. Even Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos must now admit that Trump makes DemoRats look like ScaredyCats. ■ MGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_org rl9bu0$8j4$1@dont-email.me Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com qctgnfh0blrmv96fm4udoo5v576vditdfv@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rlacbs$n99$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--3.03pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m169 Mad; 4.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 3 { 10:28am, 2020 }:29 YɷsЛ The show must go on, WuFlu or not. Unless you're a DemoRat ScaredyCat, the show must go on, WuFlu or not. ■ The microphone stops working after 8 months. Like clockwork, the microphone stops working after 8 months. I just bought my 3rd g635 headset, not counting the many g633 headsets I bought before that. Still, I stick with it, because I don't see a better alternative. ■ I store my urine-n-feces in a " Vittles Vault " container that I bought at PetCo. It seals - tight -; no smell. I put deodorant under my arms and crotch; so no one notices if I've showered or not. Once full, I empty the Vittles Vault into a contractor bag, and place it in the dumpster. I defecate into a soup ladle, and piss into a measuring cup, then dump it in the Vittles Vault -- paper towel cleanup. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--8.41am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 0nn6nf91ddrcs2srdd0bj878tt4ec07dtu@4ax.com Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com cLJcH.206581$TO4.202342@fx05.iad Checky dgsjtl.g4p.17.263@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--2.17pm.Seattle.2020 Phantom_View│pv@PhantomView114_ 52q7nf9qk5a3f99qdlsr114i8gt3796bng@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--10.28pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 1 m3 Cool; 2.5 Hours, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.166.55, Sep 29 { 7:23pm, 2020 }:40^(-4) YɴЕტ Imagine a world where... "Phantom View" replied ( to me ): > this has nothing to do with Linux I'm talking to people, not bots. > If you don't own [ your residence ], > nor have a personal stake in it, > you trash it like a rock band. Yes, State-Sanctioned Squatters trash their abodes, for real. It's the most amazing thing, ever, in my 60 years here, on the planet. Imagine a world where home prices are falling, and wages are rising, and everyone owns their home. ■ . htgsu4Fb84oU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--8.41am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 0nn6nf91ddrcs2srdd0bj878tt4ec07dtu@4ax.com Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com cLJcH.206581$TO4.202342@fx05.iad Checky dgsjtl.g4p.17.263@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--2.17pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 1 m40 Cool; 2.1 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 29 { 11:28am, 2020 }:34^(-7) YɴΙР UnSafe/Deteriorating housing. Checky replied ( to me ): > > > > Across the country, landlords have > > > > had their assets seized. Pure Insanity. > > Landlords are *assumed* to have more money, > so if someone has to eat it, it's the landlords. > > Before you can sue the Government, > you have to get their permission because > they have " sovereign immunity you". > > Fucked, isn't it ? America is more Marxist than China. Governments have been harming landlords for decades; no one's been able to bring a lawsuit against them. " Trump Administration, CDC Sued By Landlords Over 'Unconstitutional' Moratorium On Evictions ", Sep 27th, 2020: // " Every single case filed previously // was dismissed for lack of merit, // and we think the same thing should // happen with these new cases, " // // said Eric Dunn, director of litigation // at the National Housing Law Project. ZeroHedge.COM/political/trump-administration-cdc-sued-landlords-over-unconstitutional-moratorium-evictions The intent is to stop homelessness; the result is: – Massive property destruction. and – UnSafe/Deteriorating housing. I'd hate to be one of those idiots who built brand-new, high–income high-rises. ■ ScottDoty htgsu4Fb84oU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--8.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 2 m68 Cool; 33.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 29 { 6:59am, 2020 }:33 Yɴʋმ Reverse-Marxism is the future. ScottDoty wrote: > Megadeaths > Worldwide Coronavirus deaths reached 1 million. > Will U.S. deaths reach this number ? Across the country, landlords have had their assets seized. Pure Insanity. Reverse-Marxism is the future. Gov./Schools - will - be privatized, to pay less and get more. " New Revelations on the COVID Death Count ": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0y6M-N8wOE " What It’s Like Getting Censored on YouTube ": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGxbaxviRVw ■ Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid seo1nfdbsebiak6eb8gpdk6097s9ok8peu@4ax.com . dgnh68.qtu.19.2@news.alt.net Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid a102nfp701rhovojfeu7lkotr168nc0t51@4ax.com ScottDoty htch7nFbh7fU9@mid.individual.net PeeScent dgnpmc.uq0.17.1@news.alt.net Checky dgnvfk.g4p.17.204@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--6.14pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 2 m93 Cool; 37.7 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 27 { 5:15pm, 2020 }:13^(-7) YɳɺΣ Scott hasn't discovered the fraud yet. Checky observed: > [ Scott Doty ] lives in a shithole State > that was totally trashed by liberals, > > and he thinks they should be allowed > to turn the whole country into > a third world shithole. > > What an ignorant and disgusting POS! Like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, Scott hasn't discovered the fraud yet; but he will, eventually. Most of these fancy new buildings, here in Seattle, will burn down. ■ Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall fhivmft785fq30a6o3jrcrsndq79nemltn@4ax.com Dechucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_com qJKdnWlzJtOiUfLCnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@westnet.com.au . dgl9vj.94k.17.8@news.alt.net Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall vunvmfhbqmhn5in5209sbl32n9qng8su5c@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--6.14pm.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall c4qvmf9nbqhduarrp34em6lo2ahj3thp1h@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--7.56pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 8 m17 Cool; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 26 { 6:19pm, 2020 }:50^(-4) Yɲϻɮ DemoRat cities have defaulted. Hømer told me: > Thanks, Jeff, for seeing the light. > You have been victimized by Democrapper > policies more than most. I could tell you some stories that would blow your mind; it's -really- nasty here, today. DemoRat cities have defaulted; they just collect taxes and do nothing. I can't get police reports; I've been waiting for months. This latest depression is truly depressing, the whole world has defaulted. Still, it's not more than I can handle, and I don't want to walk 20 miles to the grocery store and back. Shipping is cheaper-n-better in the big city -- Internet too. ■ Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 2ahvmfhdk1rab5r3rp8m0jjeafb99gu94r@4ax.com Dechucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_com c5ednUFKHaAKVfLCnZ2dnUU7-dudnZ2d@westnet.com.au Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall fhivmft785fq30a6o3jrcrsndq79nemltn@4ax.com Dechucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_com qJKdnWlzJtOiUfLCnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@westnet.com.au . dgl9vj.94k.17.8@news.alt.net Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall vunvmfhbqmhn5in5209sbl32n9qng8su5c@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--6.14pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 1 m10 Cool; 6.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 26 { 5:44pm, 2020 }: 6^(-4) Yɲϵɾ Hopeless Retards. Hømer observed: > For three years or more [DemoRats] > claimed [Trump] colluded with the > Russians and rigged the election. > > Turns out that's exactly what > Hillary and the Democrappers did. > > You can always tell what the Democrappers > are up to by examining what they > accuse Republicans of. Absolutely true, 100.000 % ! That's how I translate their speech. The lockdowns in DemoRat-infested cities exposes them for what they really are: Hopeless Retards. Drunk Looters makeup the base of the DemoRats' pyramid scheme. At the tippy-top is Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos -- our clueless wonders. High walls and bodyguards keep them away from reality; so they have no idea how poor people con each other. They would/do fall for the con, if/when exposed to it. DemoRat cities are defaulting ?! not a problem, if you're rich. > They need to get new writers, FFS! Chairman Xi is available, I hear; if anyone knows how to run an election, he does. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--1.01am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV sv3pmf1u326drot77pomig7e8ms3tqkvn1@4ax.com HughHuntzinger a467efc5-3dac-4414-a47f-f6141936c21ao@googlegroups.com HughHuntzinger 439e361f-9bfa-4306-ad64-e10d2190725ao@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--8.45am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m78 Dropped; 33.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 6.50.49.221, Sep 24 { 6:52am, 2020 }:19^(PDT) YɱIБ Criminals rejoice ! If you're a scofflaw, times have never been better. People have done the math and decided to not pay rent. Seattle's virtue signalers, living -fat- off the system, extended the eviction moratorium to the middle of 2021. And banks don't care because real estate keeps doubling in price. Dividends and rent don't matter, so long as stock and real estate prices keep soaring into the stratosphere. Seattle is broke and dysfunctional; the police are defunded; I can't get police reports. Violent Criminals are rejoicing, big time ! Schools let students ambush cops and burn down the city; yet they steal students' tuition money if, God forbid, they go to church. Washington's "Employment Security Department" paid out benefits to its own employees, as if they were unemployed. The money ( ~600 million $ ) went to places like Nigeria, of course. And, as the "Wirecard" fraud shows, it's not just people with bad credit who are scamming the system. Everyone is doing it. Nikola -and- Tesla. The Fed cannot raise the CPI. If banks won't lend, the Fed's hands are tied. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--1.01am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics OverLoading the Camel. The 2007-2010 subprime mortgage crisis was perpetrated by get-rich-quick conmen. Now, 2020, conmen are milking those with good credit, piling on the debt, overloading the camel. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--10.35pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate De-gentrification. I live on frat row, immediately north of the University of Washington, Seattle. 2006, the frats were concert-level loud; massive parties, drunk 18-year-old girls everywhere, in bikinis. Early 2019, the Orthodox Jewish frat to my South fled; it's still empty. The University shut down the frat to my North. Now, the building is partially occupied by a third fraternity; it's mostly empty. They can't party-hardy anymore; the University would kick them out, in the name of Covid-19. Meanwhile, the poor people living in my rooming house are partying like never before because the cops won't/can't touch them. The roles have been reversed; the rich kids are quiet, and the poor kids are noisy. De-Gentrification has begun. ■ Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall gstemf5ejf0222s1vb4kiubeeb1med3knf@4ax.com Checky dg4ur2.nd8.17.89@news.alt.net Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall q2efmf9p9tv5oejd9g0ef6u6k7s7hldqbu@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--1.29pm.Seattle.2020 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m6 Cool; 6.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 20 { 1:16pm, 2020 }:16^(-4) YɮγϾ I'm nothing. I take great comfort in knowing that I'm nothing compared to "God", the Almighty Universe. To me, my nothingness is everything. "God" (nature) programmed us to (sustainably) consume " what nature provides " ( residual eXergy, gravity, energy that can do "work" ( force * distance ) ). ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 7e82f26a-2e58-4fe3-a37f-4d7d62eff128n@googlegroups.com Dingus_Dirtbag_McGee│ddmgee rjtkdv$24ev$1@neodome.net Sergio rjtnhj$13oi$1@gioia.aioe.org Mitchell_Raemsch bcc60f28-cea6-4299-9a9d-e92cad56ac83n@googlegroups.com Anal_Buttfuck_Kibo_Manure_ rjvhbn$1337$2@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rjvsai$f22$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--8.19am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╳ 1 m148 Top; 36.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 17 { 7:37am, 2020 }: 6^(-5) Yɬʒȸ " 2 for 1 " Brains. > > Get a brain. > > a Joe Biden Brain ?! Brains are " 2 for 1 " now, at 7/11. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--2.04pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate The Ponzi scheme is unraveling. Everywhere, governments punish savers and reward borrowers. Why ? Because "the fertility rate" ( babies per woman per lifetime ) has been lower-than-expected, destroying pension plans. The Ponzi scheme is unraveling. ■ anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rjlpdl$83r$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 0027e8fd-6ee2-466e-8e07-30d5d1b6315cn@googlegroups.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjm391$ibc$8@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger c8695a6d-4b2b-41da-8cb0-f841c01afe0fo@googlegroups.com MrChrisV d52vlfh94dlj9p98ajetjvs4ispd83fu86@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjo877$gbt$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--10.40am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m75 Cool; 13.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 14 { 10:11am, 2020 }: 3 Yɪʫн Oxidation kills. Lots of things will kill you, including breathing ( oxidation ), traveling, and growing older. Your lifespan is limited by how much oxygen you consume. Squirrels consume more oxygen per pound than horses; hence, they die sooner. Busy worker bees, collecting honey, live only a couple weeks; otherwise, that same bee would live many months. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjlvsn$ibc$3@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.59pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjmbv5$drj$6@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--6.03pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 967vlfph4li2cfqfq3412aevj68uk276uc@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 78d81bab-2179-4bfa-88c0-842be593eb1co@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--10.31am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m69 Dropped; 20.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 6.50.55.17, Sep 14 { 10: 4am, 2020 }: 1^(PDT) Yɪʪϡ Greenhouse Earth is greener. Greenhouse Earth is greener. NASA.GOV, April 26, 2016: // From a quarter to half of // Earth’s vegetated lands has shown // significant greening over // the last 35 years largely due to // rising levels of atmospheric // carbon dioxide. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjjau1$suv$1@dont-email.me Chris_Ahlstrom│OFeem1987 rjlv74$1a2$6@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjm1vk$ibc$7@dont-email.me Chris_Ahlstrom│OFeem1987 rjnh1u$ul0$3@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjnjmg$cco$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.39am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m71 Cool; 11.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 14 { 4:20am, 2020 }:48 Yɪɱʨ Burning down Hidin' Biden's house. RonB notes: > Only six to eight thousand have died FROM > Covid-19 alone ( according to the CDC ). > [...] > I'm sick of this lying bullshit. It's all politics, no science. There's going to be lawsuits. Government dependents, Democrats, are lying their deadbeat asses off ( to avoid work and not pay rent ). And what's wrong with CO2's "greenhouse effect" ?! nothing is greener than a greenhouse ( until antifa burns it down ). If Hidin' Biden wins, Marxist Antifa/BLM will burn down Biden's house too. ■ anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rjk8a6$j7p$1@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjkdis$9sg$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.39am.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjlvsn$ibc$3@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.59pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjmbv5$drj$6@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--6.03pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 6 m66 Cool; 9.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 13 { 5: 2pm, 2020 }:45 Yɪ0ʥ If Hidin' Biden wins. RonB wrote: > When we drove through Utah I was > surprised ( and happy ) to note that > the majority refused to wear masks. Utah and South Dakota never fell for the lockdown ruse... so they have the lowest Covid-19 death rates. It's all politics, no science. There's going to be a lot of lawsuits over this lockdown bullshit. Government dependents, Democrats, are lying their deadbeat asses off ( to avoid work and not pay rent ). And what's wrong with "the greenhouse effect" CO2 ?! nothing is greener than a greenhouse ( until antifa burns it down ). If Hidin' Biden wins, Marxist Antifa/BLM will burn down his house too. ■ DFS kvh7H.350481$RF4.288317@fx43.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjkeo5$dck$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.02am.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjlvbi$ibc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjmb87$drj$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--5.42pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 7 m66 Cool; 21.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 13 { 4:50pm, 2020 }:31 Yɩჴʗ If you can't afford Final Draft. If you can't afford Final Draft, RonB, and you can't find a cheaper alternative, pirate it ( qBitTorrent, ThePirateBay.ORG ). What do you think of " No country for old men " (2007) ? ... I have an Intel iGPU too ( i7-8700 ); but it doesn't appear in "Device Manager" (?!), maybe my Nvidia driver hid it. ■ FR│fr@random_info rjgekj02ebn@news3.newsguy.com DFS djS6H.96568$BL.48203@fx16.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.48pm.Seattle.2020 DFS pPs7H.266983$7vd.117276@fx35.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--11.03am.Seattle.2020 DFS ukw7H.234774$5_4.41361@fx40.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--4.54pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m117 Top; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 13 { 2:39pm, 2020 }: 9^(-4) YɩპΞ Punks don't scare me. DFS replied ( to me ): > > I am where I want to be, > > not where someone else wants me to be. > > Wasn't your life threatened recently > by black, squatter criminals? Yes, but punks don't scare me. I avoid them. I wouldnt want to be their "friend", that's for sure. ■ FabianRussell rjbooo01ku7@news1.newsguy.com DFS kvh7H.350481$RF4.288317@fx43.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjkeo5$dck$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.02am.Seattle.2020 BranimirMaksimovic Cmv7H.1036215$JY5.642487@fx32.am4 DFS Xtv7H.321913$0W4.260345@fx42.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--4.10pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m115 Top; 5.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 13 { 1:40pm, 2020 }: 1^(-4) Yɩეϡ 4 years left on my 5-Year Limited Warranty. DFS replied ( to Branimir Maksimovic ): > > If Win 8.1 it's pretty fast; > > if Win10, it's SSD killer. > > Tell us again how Win10 writes 10GB > every time you boot it up in a VM. No problems here, on my Win10 box. Just today, I probably wrote 50 GigaBytes to my PCIe Gen 3.0 x4, M.2 NVMe 1.3 SSD. 4 years left on my 5-Year Limited Warranty; Samsung 970 EVO Plus. 512 gig, USB 3.1 thumb drive, "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX". ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjjau1$suv$1@dont-email.me anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rjk8a6$j7p$1@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjkdis$9sg$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.39am.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjlvsn$ibc$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.59pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m59 Cool; 8.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 13 { 1:36pm, 2020 }:40 Yɩეe Most colleges are crap. RonB wrote: > You even have a college professor claiming > the "right" for that Antifa thug to kill > that man in Portland because that man > had the gall to oppose these fascists. Most colleges are crap. I got my Computer Science undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University, Provo Utah -- right wing, conservative. ■ DFS V_a6H.127242$Li1.16790@fx11.iad FabianRussell rjbooo01ku7@news1.newsguy.com DFS kvh7H.350481$RF4.288317@fx43.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjkeo5$dck$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.02am.Seattle.2020 BranimirMaksimovic Cmv7H.1036215$JY5.642487@fx32.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.53pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m8 Cool; 12 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Sep 13 { 1:33pm, 2020 }:38 Yɩდσ Windows 10, Home Edition, v1909. Branimir Maksimovic replied ( to me ): > > Linux and Apple aren't for me; > > to each his own. > > You don't know what you are missing. I programmed Macs ( since 1984 ) and UNIX-like systems ( since 1981 ). Forth, PostScript, PDP-11, 6502, 68020, and Modula-2 systems (Lilith) as well. > What Windows version you are running? Windows 10, Home Edition, v1909. > If Win 8.1 it's pretty fast, > if 10 it's an SSD killer. I doubt that. I Copy/BackUp 8 GigaByte files in seconds. 1 TeraByte, "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec. 512 gig, USB 3.1 thumb drive, "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX". ■ DFS V_a6H.127242$Li1.16790@fx11.iad FabianRussell rjbooo01ku7@news1.newsguy.com DFS kvh7H.350481$RF4.288317@fx43.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjkeo5$dck$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.02am.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjlvbi$ibc$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.30pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m59 Cool; 18.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 13 { 1:27pm, 2020 }:30 Yɩგλ "Winaero Tweaker" has "Disable Updates" options. You (RonB) asked me: > What draws you to Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ? I like the people here. I've programmed UNIX-like systems; Macs too. > Do you use pirated software > or do you keep better records than most ? While I have a legal copy of Windows 10, Home Edition ( 143 $, after-tax, from Amazon ), I didn't bother to inform Microsoft when I switched to all new hardware. I could have, I just didn't bother; instead, I used "KMSAuto Net" to activate it. > Millions of Windows' users have trouble retrieving > their install keys when hard drives crash. I wrote it down, it's on my thumb drive backup. Amazon would have a record of the purchase ( Microsoft Windows 8, free upgrade to Win10 ); but I bought it 8 years ago, before I had an Amazon account. > Millions and millions of Windows' users have > had to deal with corrupt registry files. > Again, Google it for the vast numbers. > > Also, look at how many ads there > are for registry "fixers." > If this wasn't a major problem there > wouldn't be a market for these products. Perhaps so, I wouldn't know. Most people run antivirus software too; not me, I'm not "most people". > you know how to get around the mandatory > Microsoft crapware updates. "Winaero Tweaker" has "Disable Updates" options ( it works well, Windows 10 ). Major Updates can be downloaded from "Microsoft.COM" and installed like a Windows re-install. > My wife's old laptop (an HP) had > two video chips, Intel and nVidia. You should've disabled the iGPU (Intel) using "Device Manager". The discrete GPU (nVidia) is the better choice. ■ Sergio rjk7fq$meo$2@gioia.aioe.org Carmine_Morales-Vazquez│carmo rjkpet$1ms2$2@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rjla8a$1ge2$1@gioia.aioe.org Rigoberto_Lagerblade│rilag rjlgdh$dat$1@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rjlobk$472$1@gioia.aioe.org Rigoberto_Lagerblade│rilag rjlpau$ed4$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--0.06pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 15.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, POSTED.WlIeyJ➤Aioe.ORG, Sep 13 { 11:44am, 2020 }:46 Yɩсʦ Marxism is a deadbeat's paradise. Our NymShifting coward wrote: > Its hard to stop making profit, even its from scams. > AAAAND fast forward to 2020. BASTARDS What is your solution ?! Marxism is a deadbeat's paradise. Marx fucked his employee then rejected the resulting child. Like Hidin' Biden, he said "nice" things, while doing the direct opposite. The 7 trillion $ the Feds pumped into the banking system, starting with "trickle-down" Obama, 2009, is just sitting there, doing nothing. Banks won't lend to people who aren't paying their mortgages ( and tenants aren't paying rent ). ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.33am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 7faqlflj69e91ump4su04o6ek26d6ndipa@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.30pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio rjk272$1dlb$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.56am.Seattle.2020 Sergio rjlp9f$dda$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--11.55am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m155 Top; 39 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 13 { 11:44am, 2020 }: ^(-5) Yɩсɸ Drunk tweakers beat young women. Sergio replied ( to me ): > > > drunk meth head was choking her, > > > the cops arrived in time. > > > > That's a typical Tuesday for me. > > that methhead got 2yrs, > then hit the streets, > but now has 3 charges on him, > the aggravated robbery will > get him 10 years. > > At least he's not a roomie. > is Seattle letting bad guys off easy ? People like that are walking around "my" house, fearlessly. Seattle mostly emptied out it's jails, and it feels like they're all here, now. Drugs have been decriminalized, here. Police don't care if you have drugs or not. Drunk tweakers beat young women ( and others ) repeatedly; so long was they're in their room, police can't get to them. I'll spare you the (many) details. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction -would- be a basic human right, if governments worked properly. Quoting ( Seattle Attorney ) Ryan Weatherstone: // a resident was caught on security // camera beating an 80-year-old woman. // // Due to the Just Cause ordinance, the // apartment manager could not simply // give him a 20-day notice to vacate. // // Under the Just Cause process, the // low-income housing provider in this // case would have had to spend upwards // of $20,000 to go through the lengthy // process. // // This would have resulted in the victim // enduring the man for additional // months, denying a low-income apartment // unit from a deserving resident, and // tying up resources that could be used // to support many more residents. https://thelens.news/2020/01/24/i-was-a-seattle-code-enforcer-just-cause-laws-put-neighbors-and-rental-homes-at-risk/ ■ FR│fr@random_info rjgekj02ebn@news3.newsguy.com DFS djS6H.96568$BL.48203@fx16.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.48pm.Seattle.2020 DFS pPs7H.266983$7vd.117276@fx35.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--11.03am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m116 Top; 20 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 13 { 10:38am, 2020 }:21^(-4) Yɩжʍ Living in a deadbeat's paradise. DFS replied ( to me ): > > A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle. > > You'd be in a better place today ( location-wise, > physiologically, financially and emotionally) > if you had remarried or partnered with another woman. I am where I want to be, not where someone else wants me to be. Things have gotten worse, I'll admit, but I'm still enjoying myself, big time. Living in a deadbeat's paradise. ■ DFS V_a6H.127242$Li1.16790@fx11.iad FabianRussell rjbooo01ku7@news1.newsguy.com DFS kvh7H.350481$RF4.288317@fx43.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjkeo5$dck$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.02am.Seattle.2020 Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat slrnrls2be.2b0.sc@scarpet42p.localdomain Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--5.24am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m33 Cool; 10.8 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Nnrp4-2.Free.FR➤Proxad.NET, 82.248.248.7, Sep 13 { 4:58am, 2020 }:38 YɩϟФ I've never had a memorable BSOD. Stéphane replied ( to me ): > > > BSOD's, > > > > Never for me. > > I don't believe it. > I believe you don't remember your BSOD. I've never had a memorable BSOD. With certain BIOS settings, I could get a stupid BSOD. BSOD is a driver problem; I don't have driver problems. 30 years ago, I could consume all the memory, in a runaway memory allocation process, and the system would need rebooting. No BSOD. For me, 16 gigs of RAM is the minimum. ■ Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid lqiplfdfll6cqhk9j9rcitfjmld8ec28id@4ax.com Checky dffcrp.pc6.19.31@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.33am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 7faqlflj69e91ump4su04o6ek26d6ndipa@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.30pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio rjk272$1dlb$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.56am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m156 Top; 7.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 12 { 8: 4pm, 2020 }: 1^(-5) Yɩʖϡ A typical Tuesday. Sergio says: > *watch out for meth heads* > > if they have been drinking too, > they could kill someone and not know it. > > I know someone that almost got killed that way, > drunk meth head was choking her, > the cops arrived in time. That's a typical Tuesday for me. ■ mGhost rjhr0h$klc$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjj68p$cu$1@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjk6fc$5dq$5@dont-email.me DFS tmh7H.169802$d95.134858@fx06.iad mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjkdqa$9sg$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.45am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m7 Shifty; 3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 11:22pm, 2020 }: 2 YɩΘϰ Stupidity is bipartisan. mGhost wrote: > Let's see what you morons do in November. Stupidity is bipartisan. Come September 2021, next year, the world will still be in a recession, and stock markets will have dropped 40 %. The 7 trillion $ the Feds pumped into the banking system is just sitting there, doing nothing. Banks won't lend to people who aren't paying their mortgages ( and tenants aren't paying rent ). ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjjau1$suv$1@dont-email.me anonlinuxuser│linuxuser@noone_ rjk8a6$j7p$1@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjkdis$9sg$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.39am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 2 m7 Shifty; 3.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 11:18pm, 2020 }: 4 YɩΘ4 mGhost, Montana doesn't need your "help". mGhost replied ( to "anonlinuxuser" ): > > No one here [Montana] is dying from this > > disease that is no worse than the common cold. > > See... Dumb American. Montana doesn't need your "help", mGhost. How is not dying of a flu virus, and not being dependent on the government, like you Democrats, "Dumb". ■ mGhost rjhr0h$klc$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjj68p$cu$1@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjk6fc$5dq$5@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.32am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m7 Shifty; 5.1 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 9:16pm, 2020 }:44 YɩʢЪ How well does China treat Blacks and Muslims ?! mGhost says: > China and South Korea [rule] the world now. China today is like Nazi Germany, 1930, but more racist/fascist/brutal. Russia, India and America would happily seize territory from China. Who's on China's side ?! Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Black Venezuela ?! How well does China treat Blacks and Muslims ?! Have you no clue ?! > [Americans] are bankrupted retards What country are you from ? Europe is bankrupt too, everyone is. ■ SpamBot rjhr0h$klc$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger bf92783e-55b2-4f68-84bc-31da44c253a2n@googlegroups.com mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rjk61j$5dq$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.13am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m7 Shifty; 5.2 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 9: 9pm, 2020 }:23 Yɩʡδ - Everyone - is defaulting, it's bipartisan. mGhost says: > [ You Americans picked ] a retarded > bankrupt idiot to run your country. - Everyone - is defaulting, it's bipartisan. Government dependents, Democrats, like you and Hugh Huntzinger, are using Covid-19 as an excuse to not work and not pay your bills. ■ FR│fr@random_info rjb4qa0149a@news3.newsguy.com DFS V_a6H.127242$Li1.16790@fx11.iad FabianRussell rjbooo01ku7@news1.newsguy.com DFS kvh7H.350481$RF4.288317@fx43.iad RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjkeo5$dck$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--3.02am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m53 Cool; 2.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 11:37pm, 2020 }:58 YɩΛɶ I've been programming since 1976. RonB says: > Linux is for people who don't like malware, I've been programming since 1976, mousing/laser printing since 1981, Microsoft DOS since 1983, Microsoft Windows and Microsoft C since 1989. Malware has never been an issue for me. I run a malware check once every 3 years or so, never found anything. > instability, bitrot, ransomware, BSODs, Never for me. All my devices are well supported. A BSOD might happen if you have a super cutting-edge device, and/or extreme BIOS settings, and/or the wrong driver. > mandatory upgrades whether you want them or not, Never for me. No automatic updates. I upgrade Windows once a year or so; the -major- upgrade is like reinstalling Windows; it takes awhile, and it's tricky, but I already know how to do it. > corrupt registry files Never, and I quickly fuck with the registry at will: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT > constant licensing bullshit. Not a problem for me. > WELCOME to WINDOWS ! ( Not for me ) Linux and Apple aren't for me; to each his own. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjjau1$suv$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.40pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m51 Cool; 5.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 1:26pm, 2020 }:41 Yɩɔʡ Covid-19 is a stupid excuse. Re: No 2nd Covid Wave in Sweden The countries/states without lockdowns enjoy the fewest deaths per capita. Even in poorly-run Democrat regions, one is twice as likely to die in a car accident, especially the young. Covid-19 is a stupid excuse government dependents (Democrats) use to avoid work and not pay mortgages/PropetyTaxes/rent. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.50am.Seattle.2020 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.08am.Seattle.2020 Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid lqiplfdfll6cqhk9j9rcitfjmld8ec28id@4ax.com Checky dffcrp.pc6.19.31@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.33am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 7faqlflj69e91ump4su04o6ek26d6ndipa@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.30pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m6 Cool; 10 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 12 { 1: 5pm, 2020 }:37^(-4) Yɩɐჟ A Deadbeat's Paradise. Hømer replied ( to me ): > > I adjust, no problem. > > One of those worthless sociopaths > will end up cutting your fool throat. > Get the fuck out while you still can. It's not that bad, really. It's just different, I'll adjust. Interesting times, for sure. It's a deadbeat's paradise. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.50am.Seattle.2020 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.08am.Seattle.2020 Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid lqiplfdfll6cqhk9j9rcitfjmld8ec28id@4ax.com Checky dffcrp.pc6.19.31@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.33am.Seattle.2020 Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid r8rplfl8sqc1edc5mhidor57ftvjcjaps9@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--9.27am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m43 Dropped; 17.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 12 { 8:48am, 2020 }:20^(-6) YɩcK Easy Evictions. Skeeter replied ( to me ): > > Charities pay for the move-in and costs; > > otherwise, tenants don't pay, > > and we can't evict anyone. > > [ the charity is -forced- on us ] > > you can find reason to dump the assholes. Nope. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction -would- be a basic human right, if governments worked properly. Quoting ( Seattle Attorney ) Ryan Weatherstone: // a resident was caught on security // camera beating an 80-year-old woman. // // Due to the Just Cause ordinance, the // apartment manager could not simply // give him a 20-day notice to vacate. // // Under the Just Cause process, the // low-income housing provider in this // case would have had to spend upwards // of $20,000 to go through the lengthy // process. // // This would have resulted in the victim // enduring the man for additional // months, denying a low-income apartment // unit from a deserving resident, and // tying up resources that could be used // to support many more residents. https://thelens.news/2020/01/24/i-was-a-seattle-code-enforcer-just-cause-laws-put-neighbors-and-rental-homes-at-risk/ > > Covid-19 emptied out the jails; > > so they're all here now, with me. > > Why did you allow that ? The city forced them on me. It defaulted. > > We're not allowed to consider > > criminal histories. > > So ? Do it anyway. It's against the law. Acceptance rules must be written down; no deviance is allowed. Seattle and landlords decide, not me. > > Covid-19 is the excuse Seattle > > is using to not do its job. > > What job ? They are useless. Beyond useless. > > You can run, but you can't hide. > > I have 3 rentals and I don't take shit > from any of them. Pay and follow the rules > or I will find a way to make you gone. I was evicting people last year, but various eviction moratoriums put a stop to that. I manage 31 doors, low income. Your story might be different. Easy evictions might be possible in Arkansas Texas, or across the lake, in Bellevue... ....but not in Seattle proper. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--4.11pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjh36a$67v$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.50am.Seattle.2020 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.08am.Seattle.2020 Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid lqiplfdfll6cqhk9j9rcitfjmld8ec28id@4ax.com Checky dffcrp.pc6.19.31@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--8.33am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m51 Cool; 24.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 12 { 7:52am, 2020 }: 4^(-7) YɩSϲ The whole fucking world has defaulted. Skeeter replied ( to me ): > > > Imagine if I have had a 5 thousand $ laptop > > > instead... I'd be screaming mad, sobbing sad. > > > > Time to clean house. How ? Seattle forces thieving junkies on us. Charities pay for the move-in and costs; otherwise, tenants don't pay, and we can't evict anyone. Covid-19 emptied out the jails; so they're all here now, with me. We're not allowed to consider criminal histories. Covid-19 is the excuse Seattle is using to not do its job. The whole fucking world has defaulted. > Relf must live in the shittiest > part of the shithole. It's everywhere, these days. > I'd GTF out of the city. > Nothing like that shit going on around me. You can run, but you can't hide. I adjust, no problem. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjgtn9$ajd$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--4.11pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjh36a$67v$1@dont-email.me Mark│Mark@nobodiessharpie_net rjh4no$hq3$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.16am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 8 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 11 { 5:28pm, 2020 }:40 YɨϲЦ Muscle memory. Mark replied ( to RonB ): > > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG > > > > A [39] button mouse ? I don't need it. > > That's a LOT of buttons ! > How does one keep track of what button does what ? Muscle memory; each of the 39 programmable buttons are used extensively, repeatedly... full-on essential. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjgtn9$ajd$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--4.11pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjh36a$67v$1@dont-email.me . Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.50am.Seattle.2020 Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.08am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m47 Cool; 8.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 11 { 5: 2pm, 2020 }:18 YɨϠʊ Screaming Mad, Sobbing Sad. Re: RonB spent 5 grand on his wife's laptop ?! https://www.amazon.com/XPS-17-9700-Anti-Reflex-Best/dp/B08BTW12KR I've been robbed a couple of times, recently; crime is sky-rocketing around here, Seattle. They took my tablet, my camera, my cell phone, my checks ( checking account fraud ), -many- cartons of cigarettes, my pocketknives, my Skil saw, some tools, and some food. Packs of my cigarettes are being sold around the house, and my checks are everywhere. I can't leave my room for a minute without locking it. Bricks are being tossed through my windows. What they never took was my 3 thousand $ desktop PC ( nor its devices ). Imagine if I have had a 5 thousand $ laptop instead... I'd be screaming mad, sobbing sad. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjgtn9$ajd$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--4.11pm.Seattle.2020 RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjh36a$67v$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--1.50am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m47 Cool; 8.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 11 { 5: 2pm, 2020 }:18 YɨϠʊ RonB spent 5 grand on his wife's laptop ?! I wrote: > > Visual Studio, Visual C, on a 32 inch > > arm-mounted, 4K monitor, GeForce GTX 1650: I forgot to mention, it's a curved monitor, with a wide viewing angle. You ( RonB ) replied: > I'm not a programmer, nor do I need a 32" monitor. > You did read what *I* use *my* computer for... > right? There was a reason I did that. Yes, I understand; you're happy with less. You spent 5 grand on your wife's laptop ?!: https://www.amazon.com/XPS-17-9700-Anti-Reflex-Best/dp/B08BTW12KR ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjgtn9$ajd$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--4.11pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m44 Cool; 13.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 11 { 3:28pm, 2020 }:57 Yɨωз The Logitech g600 Mouse and g635 USB HeadSet. RonB asked: > What *exactly* am I missing by using > Linux on "old crap" computers ? The Logitech g600 mouse and g635 USB HeadSet speech-to-text: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG Visual Studio, Visual C, on a 32 inch arm-mounted, 4K monitor, GeForce GTX 1650: http://jeff-relf.me/Diff.PNG http://jeff-relf.me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG Copying/BackingUp 8 GigaByte files in seconds. 1 TeraByte, "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec. 512 gig, USB 3.1 thumb drive, "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX". Lightning-Fast speed: 16 gigs of ddr4 RAM, 3 GigaHz i7-8700, 12 thread, 4.25+ GigaHz ( gaming mode ). ■ FR│fr@random_info rjgekj02ebn@news3.newsguy.com DFS djS6H.96568$BL.48203@fx16.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.48pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m112 Top; 52.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 11 { 2:49pm, 2020 }:52^(-4) Yɨσɰ A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle. DFS mentions: > another lonely, womanless weekend A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjbbhg$fb9$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV j8jklfds07bfkhcoeqk5ilmo04n9g9i39k@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 85df6918-d8de-4427-a5df-60abcdbb0696o@googlegroups.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjgflu$mik$2@dont-email.me MrChrisV g3knlflnb0jqshg3gajgs6611l9vv2ri48@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rjgpo8$4hi$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.38pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m43 Cool; 28.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 11 { 2:21pm, 2020 }:12 YɨξΡ Government Dependents, Democrats. For many people, Covid-19 is an excuse to avoid work and not pay mortgages/PropetyTaxes. This is especially true for government dependents, Democrats. The high crime rate doesn't affect them, apparently, because they're paid well; so they reject the call for law-n-order. Come September 2021, next year, the world will still be in a recession, and stock markets will have dropped 40%. The 7 trillion $ the Feds pumped into the banking system is just sitting there, doing nothing. Banks won't lend to people who aren't paying their mortgages ( and tenants aren't paying rent ). *If* governments bail everyone out, including the little guy ( UBI ), and *if* tariffs rise dramatically, it'll be inflationary... ....but those are big if's; currently, the ( usually correct ) Treasury Bond market says that's not going to happen. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 26536bdb-b2a8-486d-807d-8ea21f54a8e3n@googlegroups.com Bloated_Donkey_Pancreas│ rj7qva$1bip$2@gioia.aioe.org Mitchell_Raemsch cc3e2a0d-e4d5-4752-810f-3c17a1a56a52n@googlegroups.com Sergio rj8te2$1tdo$2@gioia.aioe.org Mitchell_Raemsch cba37b13-84bb-43ec-b8bb-911efdc1b585n@googlegroups.com Sergio rjeh7m$1ksn$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--1.02am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m159 Top; 7.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 10 { 5:43pm, 2020 }:35^(-5) Yɨ7ɟ There's a time to drink water. Sergio imagined: > if you dont have a cellphone, nor a clock, > nor a wristwatch the room is timeless, > there is no time in it. There's a time to drink water; when your throat goes dry ( at night ), you get a dry cough. There's a time to piss, because: Happiness is an empty bladder. Long-Term Happiness requires a vasectomy. ■ . 504789de-045c-4840-a7d3-69ec4daa8920o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--0.46pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV jbpflf56k31m21eomv3erveue9d0iav8fm@4ax.com . d1d7392a-30fe-48e4-9385-11013d56480ao@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--3.24pm.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 707glf5b8u2d22t40lp362tf23p8r9vivg@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--1.08am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m3 Cool; 7.3 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 8 { 5: 6pm, 2020 }:47^(-4) Yɦϡl Fleeing into the woods doesn't help. Hømer replied ( to me ): > > Seattle's dictators are > > hopelessly clueless and uncaring. > > You're an idiot if you [think] > your complaining [ will help ]. It helps me. I have to ajust to the rising hord of dictators and zombies. And they're everywhere now; fleeing into the woods doesn't help. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 3cedf65d-9575-49b3-aeb4-cbf32cbf074cn@googlegroups.com Patricio_Whackmember│pee_whack rj95qi$l9r$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--0.46am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 7.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Sep 8 { 4:58pm, 2020 }:19^(-7) YɦϟБ Chanting " Get a brain ". Chanting " Get a brain " ( to yourself ) doesn't work. ■ HughHuntzinger 7a35db99-cbb9-4b17-ba09-f62f761f0dcfo@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--9.24am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 504789de-045c-4840-a7d3-69ec4daa8920o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--0.46pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV jbpflf56k31m21eomv3erveue9d0iav8fm@4ax.com HughHuntzinger d1d7392a-30fe-48e4-9385-11013d56480ao@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--3.24pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 1 m67 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Sep 8 { 1:42pm, 2020 }:40^(PDT) Yɦθe Seattle's dictators. Lots of things will kill you, Huntzinger, including breathing ( oxidation ), traveling, and growing older. If you fear that, then you deserve to be subject to house arrest, under your dictators. Like you, Seattle's dictators are hopelessly clueless and uncaring. Little wonder then that no one, not even their precious little rioters, appreciate them. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.19am.Seattle.2020 . rj4qi1$j54$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.38am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 7a35db99-cbb9-4b17-ba09-f62f761f0dcfo@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--9.24am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 504789de-045c-4840-a7d3-69ec4daa8920o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--0.46pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m67 Dropped; 4.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Sep 8 { :16pm, 2020 }:11^(PDT) YɦΡϹ Get woke, Go broke. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > Driving your car to a grocery store > > is more dangerous than not wearing a mask. > > Which is germane to the point > of disease dissemination ... how? My point matters, yours does not. Like all rich bastards, you are callous, clueless, naïve and worthless. > > California Democrats won't let you go to church > > for one and only one reason: > > > > Democrats reject God ( for Karl Marx ). > > The higher risk of extended indoor gatherings > has been known for quite awhile I don't care. Unless you're a dictator, it simply doesn't matter. Since when is it OK to put all your "loyal subjects" under house arrest ?! Hint: Never. Foolish cities encourage riots, killing cops, general lawlessness, etc.; at the same time, they force you to deny God, and put Karl Marx first. Marx fucked his employee then rejected the resulting child. Like Hidin' Biden, he said "nice" things, while doing the direct opposite. > > Meanwhile, they embrace murderous tweakers... > > Association with CoVid19 is absent. Hint: One matters, the other does not. > > 853 Covid-19 -associated- deaths, > > as of today, Sep 8th, 2020, > > So what ? > > Current rates is the key metric for... ....dictators. Murderous tweakers started showing up years before this Covid-19 bullshit. It's a red herring, to distract the hounds. Word to naïve Democrats, infesting government institutions: Get woke, Go broke. ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.56pm.Seattle.2020 . dbb7233d-dccb-4ece-9400-f50c57f7eaeen@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.19am.Seattle.2020 . rj4qi1$j54$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.38am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 7a35db99-cbb9-4b17-ba09-f62f761f0dcfo@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--9.24am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m72 Dropped; 6.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Sep 8 { 8:54am, 2020 }:49^(PDT) Yɦʟn Eat the rich. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > Conservative Utah and South Dakota didn't shut down; > > so, naturally, they had the lowest death rates. > > Only if one ignores dissemination & propagation Driving your car to a grocery store is more dangerous than not wearing a mask. California Democrats won't let you go to church for one and only one reason: Democrats reject God ( for Karl Marx ). Meanwhile, they embrace murderous tweakers, endearing themselves to slimy, naïve idiots, like Bill Gates. Bill Gates doesn't have to deal with all the people released from jail, squatting next to me, robbing me blind, physically beating whomever they choose. Starting in 2009, both sides of the aisle, including "trickle-down" Obama, poured 7 trillion $ into the pockets of slimy, naïve idiots like Bill Gates. If I had his money, I'd build jails. Eat the rich. > > Democrats own the shutdown, it belongs to them. > > So what's Oklahoma's excuse then? 853 Covid-19 -associated- deaths, as of today, Sep 8th, 2020, mostly in nursing homes. So what ? ■ PeeScent df2kjb.1go.19.12@news.alt.net Checky df2l3t.cvh.19.169@news.alt.net PeeScent df2lsr.s2.17.10@news.alt.net Checky df2sau.cvh.19.171@news.alt.net PeeScent df2ueq.bbq.19.2@news.alt.net Checky df38qg.cvh.19.181@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--0.10am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m47 Cool; 6.3 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 7 { 5:29pm, 2020 }:34^(-7) Yɦ4ნ Big Chief Ugh-Amugh-Ugh. PeeScent, a.k.a. Big Chief Ugh-Amugh-Ugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi1jiWeghvI ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.56pm.Seattle.2020 Mitchell_Raemsch dbb7233d-dccb-4ece-9400-f50c57f7eaeen@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.19am.Seattle.2020 Mitchell_Raemsch 400e5c77-1d35-43ac-b50e-f5e2ab7f456an@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--0.09pm.Seattle.2020 Mitchell_Raemsch 38a906a5-2c5e-4884-9539-8c78801d3140n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.16pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m87 Dropped; 14.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 76.115.244.21, Sep 7 { :54pm, 2020 }: 7^(PDT) Yɥэ7 God/Nature isn't what you want it to be. Mitchell Raemsch replied ( to me ): > > Gravity is residual eXergy. > > eXergy is energy that can do "work" > > ( force * distance ). > > The hypersphere came first... You aren't making sense; as I said: In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. > What is your disproof, Jeff ? God/Nature isn't what you want it to be; it isn't subject to your hallucinations. God is nature; nothing more, nothing less. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 1bb9ec88-fe26-4be1-8db0-4b2aef0f5597n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hrlcfaFrtcpU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.56pm.Seattle.2020 Mitchell_Raemsch dbb7233d-dccb-4ece-9400-f50c57f7eaeen@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.19am.Seattle.2020 Mitchell_Raemsch 400e5c77-1d35-43ac-b50e-f5e2ab7f456an@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--0.09pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m86 Dropped; 54.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 76.115.244.21, Sep 7 { 11: 9am, 2020 }:12^(PDT) YɥлΡ Gravity is residual eXergy. Mitchell Raemsch repeats: > God creates gravity. No, gravity is residual eXergy. eXergy is energy that can do "work" ( force * distance ). ■ . hrkql9Fo2f3U2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--6.29pm.Seattle.2020 Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rj55k0$1ri0$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--4.46am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m29 Cool; 7.1 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG, Sep 7 { 4:30am, 2020 }: 8 Yɥϛ8 Michael Reinoehl took down a most evil man. "Odd Bodkin" replied ( to me ): > > While confessing to the murder, Michael Reinoehl > > spewed a long series of lies, like a true Democrat. > > People who categorize everyone of > a particular political party, either party, > as all evil liars are EXACTLY the problem. He had to lie, to cover his ass. In the end, he wound up committing suicide by cop. Thus he took down a most evil man. Conservative Utah and South Dakota didn't shut down; so, naturally, they had the lowest death rates. Democrats own the shutdown, it belongs to them. Likewise, they own the hordes of murderous tweakers. The fact that a growing horde of zombies can't afford rent is a bipartisan issue, starting with "trickle-down" Obama, 2008. ■ Mitchell_Raemsch 1bb9ec88-fe26-4be1-8db0-4b2aef0f5597n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hrlcfaFrtcpU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.56pm.Seattle.2020 Mitchell_Raemsch dbb7233d-dccb-4ece-9400-f50c57f7eaeen@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.19am.Seattle.2020 Minh_Erb│me@uniftp2_info rj4qi1$j54$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.38am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 50 Secs, NewsTap➤Android, Aioe.ORG, Sep 7 { 1:21am, 2020 }:23 Yɥδδ Democrats own the shutdown, it belongs to them. A NymShifting coward wrote: > [ the general house arrest was imposed on us by ] > medical professionals who have no business > running a national economy or government. No, pro(re)gressive dictators inflicted it on us. Conservative Utah and South Dakota didn't shut down; so, naturally, they had the lowest death rates. Democrats own the shutdown, it belongs to them. Likewise, they own the hordes of murderous tweakers. The fact that a growing horde of zombies can't afford rent is a bipartisan issue, starting with "trickle-down" Obama, 2008. ■ mitchr_@gmail_com│mitchrae3323 1bb9ec88-fe26-4be1-8db0-4b2aef0f5597n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hrlcfaFrtcpU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.56pm.Seattle.2020 mitchr_@gmail_com│mitchrae3323 dbb7233d-dccb-4ece-9400-f50c57f7eaeen@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--1.19am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m84 Dropped; 4.8 Hours, GoogleG, Sep 6 { 7:57pm, 2020 }:45^(PDT) Yɥʕϐ The coherency/predictability of the source. Mitchell Raemsch replied ( to me ): > > (Apparent) Randomness is ignorance. > > Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive, not both. > > And that experiment can't be done. Unless you're overdosing on LSD again, and/or you happen to be a pro(re)gressive, Covid-19/climate fearing, bomb throwing, bleeding-heart, hyper-naïve dictator... ....the moon is still there, even when you're not looking. > > In the double slit experiment, > > the strength of the -probability- wave > > depends on the coherency/predictability > > of the source ( the particle beam ), > > not the presence or absence of humans. > > Not according to the science. When did you start caring about science ?! If it was today, we're all ready to to point you in the right direction. > You are supposed to get different > results with or without observers No, it's based on -observability-, not the presence ( or absence ) of an observer. The strength of the -probability- wave depends on the coherency/predictability of the source ( the particle beam ). > and it tested out not to be that way... De Facto, the -absence- of a test ( looking away from the moon ) is not a proper test. (Apparent) Randomness is ignorance. No matter what you may or may not know, no matter what might be knowable, the future is just as fixed as the past. "God" ( nature, General Relativity ) is static, immutable, changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing. "God" ( nature, thermodynamics, evolution ) programmed (sustained) consumption into us; we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun. In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. ■ ScottDoty hrj557Fd778U5@mid.individual.net Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff deudjs.cvh.19.101@news.alt.net ScottDoty hrjeuaFd778U11@mid.individual.net ScottDoty hrjmbnFd778U12@mid.individual.net Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid cgk9lf1ote7l664f35guj9g0lh9avvvcoo@4ax.com Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff df0cp4.cvh.19.119@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--6.43pm.Seattle.2020 Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 9 m31 Cool; 2.7 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 6 { 3:18pm, 2020 }:42^(-7) Yɥɧg Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. Checky wrote: > [ Scott Doty ] is so wrapped up in his ego > and imagined superiority, that he can't even > hold a coherent thought. Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. ■ ScottDoty hrj392Fd778U1@mid.individual.net Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff deudda.cvh.19.100@news.alt.net ScottDoty hrkql9Fo2f3U2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--6.29pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 8 m32 Cool; 5.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 6 { :12pm, 2020 }:41 YɥȾf Michael Reinoehl, June 16th, 2020. Michael Reinoehl, June 16th, 2020, on Instagram: " I am 100% ANTIFA all the way ! " " It will be a war and, like all wars, there will be casualties. " https://www.WashingtonPost.COM/national-security/michael-forest-reinoeh-killed-portland-shooting/2020/09/04/652f6e98-ed44-11ea-99a1-71343d03bc29_story.html While confessing to the murder, Michael Reinoehl spewed a long series of lies, like a true Democrat. ■ mitchr_@gmail_com│mitchrae3323 1bb9ec88-fe26-4be1-8db0-4b2aef0f5597n@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hrlcfaFrtcpU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.56pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m15 Top; 28.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Sep 6 { 5:16pm, 2020 }:46^(10) YɥɺЬ Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive, not both. (Apparent) Randomness is ignorance. Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive, not both. In the double slit experiment, the strength of the -probability- wave depends on the coherency/predictability of the source ( the particle beam ), not the presence or absence of humans. ■ Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net rj1l5g$ek6$3@dont-email.me ScottDoty hrj557Fd778U5@mid.individual.net Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff deudjs.cvh.19.101@news.alt.net ScottDoty hrjeuaFd778U11@mid.individual.net ScottDoty hrjmbnFd778U12@mid.individual.net Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff dev3fn.cvh.19.111@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--5.10am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 1 m19 Cool; 1.1 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 6 { 3:33am, 2020 }:57^(-7) Yɤყϝ White man's burden. Checky informed Scott Doty: > Michael Reinoehl said he was "100% Antifa" True, Michael Reinoehl hunted down ( and killed ) Trump supporters. White people ( in Seattle and Portland ) should stop putting words in black people's mouths. Racism is the foundation of the DNC; " White man's burden ", and all that. To finish his miserable life, Michael Reinoehl committed suicide by cop. His dying words were "Civil War". Scott Doty has neither signal nor virtue. ■ ScottDoty hrj392Fd778U1@mid.individual.net Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net rj1l5g$ek6$3@dont-email.me ScottDoty hrj557Fd778U5@mid.individual.net Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff deudjs.cvh.19.101@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--11.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╳ 2 m16 Cool; 1.6 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Sep 5 { 9:20pm, 2020 }:34^(-7) YɤЩʚ Zombies are lighting each other on fire. Check told Scott Doty: > you claim Antifa isn't "violent". > It looks like you lied. Doty's lies are legion. 9:20pm, Portland, the zombies are lighting each other on fire: https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1302476141219905536 ■ Tattoo_Vampire│sitting@this_ riujp6$fk0$1@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org John_McCue│jmccue@jmcw541_hsd1_ rium2d$1bt$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--8.24pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m6 Cool; 2.8 Hours, tin➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 4 { 5:27pm, 2020 }:57 Yɤ4ϝ Advocacy John McCue told Tattoo Vampire: > Very little advocacy happens here Yesterday, I wrote: // The Fed's money, 7 trillion $, since 2008, // starting with "Trickle Down" Obama, // was poured into Apple, Amazon and Microsoft, // at the expense of mom-and-pop stores, // hair salons, and such. This morning, I wrote: // Some like a stadium of adoring fans. // A mostly-empty room is more my style. ■ Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rir6u1$p4k$1@gioia.aioe.org whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net risa5t$g1v$1@dont-email.me Sergio ritmj7$1sc9$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--1.20pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m200 Top; 4.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 4 { 8:30am, 2020 }:46^(-5) YɣСk A mostly-empty room is more my style. Sergio wrote: > Usenet posting is like writing a message on a wall, > where others come by and comment. > Dogs do this by scent. Odd Bodkin lacked people skills. Some like a stadium of adoring fans. A mostly-empty room is more my style. ■ Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rir6u1$p4k$1@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rirar4$ehf$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.3--11.07am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m208 Top; 2.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 3 { 10:57am, 2020 }:57^(-5) Yɣxϝ Odd Bodkin doesn't have the brains God gave a gnat. Odd Bodkin doesn't have the brains God gave a gnat. We're people here; comparatively, physics doesn't matter. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rioqat$uh$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV tdsvkfh0nb082gq4dfg7hb6b9indoet0pr@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 65055027-fc1e-4b5f-a9ac-db47d39bbe56o@googlegroups.com MrChrisV 7910lf5d0ml0guablf4au7s10rrpan2q19@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 1a2dd142-697b-4c35-bb64-449f370f85adn@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.3--10.50am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics -Dropped, 15.2 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.249, Sep 2 { 7:17pm, 2020 }:56^(PDT) YɢДჲ "Trickle Down" Obama. Hugh Huntzinger mentioned: > destruction of property in order to > gain attention for their cause ... > ...and it worked, didn’t it ?! Hordes of murderous, looting tweakers, thieving junkies, zombies, graffiting, burning down buildings, demanding that you surrender your home to them, at 4am, are coddled by hyper-naïve, snooty, over-educated pro(re)gressives. When people like Hugh want cocaine, they just go out and buy it; poor people steal it from other poor people, like myself. Hugh doesn't feel the pain, -- he doesn't understand -- he's too far removed from it. Poor people are the canaries in the coal mine; they feel it first, years before Hugh does. The Fed's money, 7 trillion $, since 2008, starting with "Trickle Down" Obama, was poured into Apple, Amazon and Microsoft, at the expense of mom-and-pop stores, hair salons, and such. Covid-19 is a red herring, to distract the hounds. 2020 looks like 1930, the opposite of 1980. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/2020==1930.JPG ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.3--8.53am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics 2020 looks like 1930. 2020 looks like 1930, the opposite of 1980. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/2020==1930.JPG ■ hanson│hanson@quick_net rimgs3$njn$1@dont-email.me Bob_Woo│bwo@gmx_org rioa6g$rfe$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.2--8.12am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 16.9 Minutes, tin➤Sun, Aioe.ORG, Sep 2 { 7:28am, 2020 }:33 YɢʐП Covid-19 is a red herring. I can't shop at a grocery store without a facemask. Fortunately for me, Amazon Fresh delivers ( SNAP EBT pays for it, no delivery fee, no subscription, no sales tax, it arrives 2 hours after I order, the driver calls me, I track him on a map ( to the minute/meter ) ). Covid-19 is a red herring, meant to hide the truth: Democrats are 100 % incapable of abating the rising horde of thieving junkies ( zombies ). Republicans punish savers and make housing unaffordable. It's bad, and getting worse, but still not unbearable. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--6.01pm.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hr5lnlFj014U1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--6.41pm.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hr5notFjdm6U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--8.14pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Top; 4.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Aug 31 { 6:51pm, 2020 }:26^(10) Yɡʊη I'll adjust. Sylvia replied ( to me ): > > I'm worried about identity theft. > > The online access to your account > might be traceable by law enforcement > to an individual computer, which > could lead to your property. > > No guarantees, of course, since it is > possible for a person to cover their tracks, > but crims are not always so clever. I'll watch everything closely for months. Man, the thieving junkies in my house ( which the city won't let me evict ) pounce the minute I'm out of my room. I must take more/better precautions; it's become -super- ridiculous. Just today, one of my poor, hard-working tenants moved out of his 555$/month room into a 840 $/month, 200 SqFt private room with a private bath ( shared kitchen ), just to get away from the people here who were physically&emotionally attacking him ( because he stood up for himself ). He was beaten mercilessly, while down, his phone was destroyed, rancid piss was poured under his door and windows. The guy who did it, and his -many- friends, including some of my bleeding-heart tenants, roam the house freely, fearlessly. They even beat young women, repeatedly; no fear of repercussions at all. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction is a basic human right that is denied us because the city can't afford it. Instead of paying more, I'll adjust. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--6.01pm.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hr5lnlFj014U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--6.41pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m1 Top; 16.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Aug 31 { 6:16pm, 2020 }:40^(10) YɡʄЦ Identity theft. Sylvia replied ( to me ): > > They used my checking account number online, > > stealing 180 $ ( no signature ); > > consequently, I had to close my checking account. > > Don't take any nonsense from them. > > Remember that a checking account > doesn't contain money. It is only the > bank's record of how much it owes you. > > They can't decide they owe you > less just because they made an > illadvised change to their records due > to a false representation by a third party. Right, I'll probably get that money back. I'm more worried about the data on the backup drives -- a talented thief could do a lot of damage with that. Identity theft. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--6.01pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics My backup drives. For the second time, recently, someone broke into my room and stole my cell phone ( which I used only once ( Equifax required it ) ), pocketknives, a terabyte SSD drive ( very sad ), keys to my house's public areas ( very sad ), my checks ( sad ), and expired passports. They used my checking account number online, stealing 180 $ ( no signature ); consequently, I had to close my checking account. To get the 180 $ back, I'll have to fill out the paperwork that my bank is sending me. They didn't take my desktop computer/monitor, nor did they take my wallet ( because I had it with me ? ). Previously, they took my camera, a tablet, pocketknives, and some other stuff. I can't leave my room for more than a few minutes without this happening -- strange times. I need to be more careful with my backup drives; anyone can read it. ■ SamWormley 6dbdb73c-737e-4db4-9660-1bfab41055a2o@googlegroups.com Dave_Parker│dparker1989 ridvfd$2ij1$1@neodome.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.29--11.57am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╳ 2 m8 Cool; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Neodome.NET, Aug 29 { 9:24am, 2020 }: 6^(-7) YɟЪ6 Peekaboo scares Sam Wormley. Dave Parker replied ( to Sam Wormley ): > > If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, > > does it make a sound ? Perhaps not, some say. > > Idiots. Peekaboo scares Sam Wormley. If he can't see you, he thinks you're not there. Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ). God is nature ( nothing more, nothing less ). In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainably consume residual eXergy ), same as the sun. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--2.38am.Seattle.2020 Sergio rib4no$svg$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--2.32pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio ribva5$k3u$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--3.15pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m214 Top; 2.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 28 { 3: 9pm, 2020 }:11^(-5) YɟɥΠ China is Nazi Germany all over again. Sergio wrote: > Marxixt countries: > > North Korea, People's Republic of China China is Nazi Germany all over again; but, this time, with extra racism. Other countries are following suit, starting with Mao's "cultural revolution"; racism is the very foundation of the DNC. Trump is our deadbeat-in-chief. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--2.38am.Seattle.2020 Idaho_Homo_Joe│dick_lick@aol_ riap3p$1e5m$1@gioia.aioe.org John_McCue│jmccue@jmclin1_hsd1_ rib8ee$iqh$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--3.06pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╳ 2 m5 Cool; 6.1 Hours, tin➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 28 { 8:38am, 2020 }:54 Yɟaʮ BLM wants a daddy to take care of them. Some NymShifting lunatic mentioned: > > 666 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Nero // 666 is the numerical equivalent of the // name and title Nero Caesar // (Roman Emperor 54–68 AD). Today, "Caesar" is Kim JongUn et al. North Koreans worship him as if he were Jesus. BLM worships Bernie Sanders. They want a daddy to take care of them, so they can sit at home and play video games. // Written in Aramaic, this can be valued at 666 // using the Hebrew numerology of // gematria, and was used to secretly // speak against the emperor. // // Additionally, "Nero Caesar" in the // Hebrew alphabet is נרון קסר‎ NRON QSR, // which when interpreted numerically // represents the numbers 50 200 6 50 100 // 60 200, which add up to 666. Throughout the Bible, it's beyond obvious that Babylon ( led by "Lucifer", the MorningStar ) is the devil. "Caesar/Babylon/Lucifer" nailed Christ on the cross; his friends rescued him, short of death. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--2.38am.Seattle.2020 Sergio rib4no$svg$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--2.32pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m213 Top; 6.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 28 { 7:35am, 2020 }:37^(-5) YɟPჟ "God" (nature) programmed us. Sergio replied ( to me ): > > We put our faith in Almighty God. > > [Yes] believe in [some] invisible entity, > and do what you want... "God" (nature) programmed us to consume "what nature provides" (gravity). "Freedom" is too expensive, it takes hard work; so Marxism is growing, big time. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--2.38am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics We put our faith in Almighty God. Trump, Aug 27, 2020, at the White House: In the left's backward view, they do not see America as the most free, just, and exceptional nation on Earth. Instead, they see a wicked nation that must be punished for its sins. Our opponents say that redemption for you can only come from giving power to them. This is a tired anthem spoken by every repressive movement throughout history; but, in this country, we don't look to career politicians for salvation. In America, we don't turn to government to restore our souls, -- we put our faith in Almighty God. ■ Rick1234567S│rick_s7777777 43dc6be5-8755-4e5c-b511-94f4b2173535n@googlegroups.com whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net ri3g7f$om9$1@dont-email.me Rick1234567S│rick_s7777777 5ab3285b-ca35-40f7-93a5-e603a2ec7548n@googlegroups.com Sergio ri4cph$7do$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.26--0.24am.Seattle.2020 Rick1234567S│rick_s7777777 cb9eb060-b245-4506-84ad-1ccd739426d8n@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.26--0.14pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m77 Dropped; 4.5 Hours, GoogleG, 154.5.146.178, Aug 26 { 7: 9am, 2020 }:18^(PDT) YɝГΨ Freedom is too expensive. Rick wrote: > a burger cannot go up price > when wages do not go up. Most people on this planet lack water and electricity. They dream of eating bread or rice; a cheeseburger is out of the question. Most can't even digest dairy; so they're short and skinny. I can eat 3 cheeseburgers -- BBQ sauce, lettuce and tomatoes -- while watching YouTube. I have to make it, but the ingredients are delivered to my door, cost-free, 2 hours after I order it. Not one dime was taken from my pocket; not for food, not for delivery, not for taxes, not for subscriptions, nothing. > I was buying houses for 45 thousand $ > when wages were 25 $/hour, 30 years ago. > > Houses cost a million $ now, > and wages are still 25 $/hour. The people I know make 15 $/hour, or less, if they're a Lyft driver, part time ( full-time is -not- desired ). Few, if any, benefits. Long-Term assets are a big "no-no"; governments don't want you to have them. Baby Boomers ( like me ) have an average of 40 thousand $ saved for their golden years. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction is a basic human right that is denied us because governments can't afford it. Freedom is too expensive, it takes hard work; so Marxism is growing, big time. ■ Rick1234567S│rick_s7777777 648e92fb-f3a8-4880-b0d4-9925cb6d1432n@googlegroups.com Rick1234567S│rick_s7777777 43dc6be5-8755-4e5c-b511-94f4b2173535n@googlegroups.com whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net ri3g7f$om9$1@dont-email.me Rick1234567S│rick_s7777777 5ab3285b-ca35-40f7-93a5-e603a2ec7548n@googlegroups.com Sergio ri4cph$7do$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.26--0.24am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m219 Top; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 25 { 6:10pm, 2020 }:11^(-5) YɝʃϹ China is Nazi Germany all over again. Looking back at the last 60 years, in Seattle, Utah, and around the globe: Food keeps getting better/cheaper. Deflation: each year, I work fewer hours. I cook for myself; no need for restaurants. SNAP, EBT: 198 $/ month. "Amazon Fresh" delivers my SNAP order 2 hours after it's made; no shipping charge, no sales tax. I can contract the deliveryman anytime, as I followed him on a map; he calls me when he's at my door. Fresh, frozen, whatever. Entertainment keeps getting better/cheaper; YouTube, PornHub, torrents, ad-free, cost-free; everything is downloadable ( YouTube-DL ). No more indoctrination, no more lies; ZeroHedge, WikiPedia, and Google inform me. Health insurance ( MedicAid ) is also free, but I've never used it. Computer programming and managing a 32 unit rooming house don't require much of my time. It covers the rent, with a little left over for savings. Baby Boomers ( like me ) have an average of 40 thousand $ saved for their golden years. Accumulating ( risk-free ) savings is too difficult; governments have done everything in their power to prevent it. They've pumped up asset prices, like a balloon, ready to pop. If you put it in a trust fund, your wife and kids might get it, but they won't appreciate it. Today, wealthier people don't have kids; so the economy doesn't grow. Decade after decade, GDP and inflation remain close to zero. Kids today have nothing better to do than kill police, break shit, burn down jails, and chant ridiculous slogans. A lot of them think they're black, when they most-definitely are not. Thieving junkies, squatters, abound; they'll kill you for a cigarette. Big city Democrats love them, coddle them, encourage them. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction is a basic human right that is denied us because governments won't pay for it. Freedom is expensive, it takes hard work; so Marxism is growing, big time. Governments buy/control asset markets, and set interest rates -- killing capitalism; saving for the future is rare. China is Nazi Germany all over again; but, this time, with extra racism. Other countries are following suit, starting with Mao's "cultural revolution"; racism is the very foundation of the DNC. Trump is our deadbeat-in-chief. ■ SamWormley abc88b56-f160-465f-ae3c-35ebccb7532fo@googlegroups.com Wyatt_Hunt│yahu2@oeddos_cn ri16dl$dlp$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--3.29pm.Seattle.2020 Wyatt_Hunt│yahu2@oeddos_cn ri1kon$1qi0$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--7.30pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m10 Shifty; 2.2 Hours, Live_Mail➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Aug 24 { 5: 7pm, 2020 }:51 Yɜϡɯ The frequency with which one changes their mind. A NymShifting spammer/stalker replied ( to me ): > > Bill Gates' IQ is 160. > > I was indulgent with those 64, > he might score lower. Why not go negative ? -66 sounds good, no ? ■ . hqhbp9F9i1dU4@mid.individual.net . ddtg5f.ks0.17.48@news.alt.net ScottDoty hqiaifFgvdqU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--0.37pm.Seattle.2020 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m29 Cool; 2.2 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Aug 24 { 10: 9am, 2020 }:36 Yɜʫρ What kind of bed did Checky buy ? What kind of bed did Checky buy ? A twin-sized, 9 inch foam bed, placed on the floor, isn't heavy. I'm laying on one now; it's super nice. Exercise ( and fame ) may shorten one's life, it's true, but there's nothing wrong with being an exquisite corpse, à la Tupac. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Since when does price-fixing work ? Since when does price-fixing work ? Max Rangeley (economist), Aug 18, 2020: // We are not surprised when the // government setting the price of food // in Venezuela leads to food shortages, // // so we should not be surprised that // 0 percent interest rates leads to // a shortage in yield for investors, // leading to a $250 trillion // global debt bubble. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--0.09am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics China and the slavery that it represents. For pennies, the NBA bows down before China and the slavery that it represents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za34H-dT8I0 ■ FabianRussell rhr8sh01nfa@news1.newsguy.com DFS SX90H.175532$HY4.166530@fx37.iad FabianRussell rhrjr8012ng@news2.newsguy.com DFS Jud0H.206718$%p.55207@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--0.06pm.Seattle.2020 DFS cUg0H.97766$qo5.74611@fx23.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--4.41pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m98 Top; 57.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 22 { 3:18pm, 2020 }:39^(-4) Yɛɧd PDF, a FORTH variant, extends PS. DFS replied ( to me ): > > PDF == PS > > PostScript and Portable Document Format are different. PDF, a FORTH variant, extends PS, much in the same way as C++ extends C. All the above are -languages-. With minor changes, a C++ compiler can compile a C program. nUbuntu.ORG says: // a PDF file is actually a PostScript file // that has been taken a -little- further. // [...] // there are printers that convert every // job into a PDF file before printing Taken a -little- further. ■ FabianRussell rhr8sh01nfa@news1.newsguy.com DFS SX90H.175532$HY4.166530@fx37.iad FabianRussell rhrjr8012ng@news2.newsguy.com DFS Jud0H.206718$%p.55207@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--0.06pm.Seattle.2020 Stéphane_CARPENTIER│sc@fiat slrnrk2v4f.ol.sc@scarpet42p.localdomain Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--1.37pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m19 Cool; 21.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Nnrp1-1.Free.FR➤Proxad.NET, 82.248.248.7, Aug 22 { 1:14pm, 2020 }: 7 Yɛɒɿ PDF == PS Stéphane replied ( to me ): > > > a "REAL MAN" wrote pdf-to-ps > > > and ps-to-pdf converters > > > > ?! they are the same thing; > > there's nothing to convert. > > You are hilarious when you want. What makes you think they're different ? ■ FabianRussell rhn49001rsh@news1.newsguy.com DFS PLP%G.55175$5l1.16146@fx10.iad FabianRussell rhr8sh01nfa@news1.newsguy.com DFS SX90H.175532$HY4.166530@fx37.iad FabianRussell rhrjr8012ng@news2.newsguy.com DFS Jud0H.206718$%p.55207@fx33.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--0.06pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m97 Top; 32.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 22 { 11:29am, 2020 }:27^(-4) Yɛȶვ PDF == PS DFS wrote: > a "REAL MAN" wrote pdf-to-ps > and ps-to-pdf converters ?! they are the same thing; there's nothing to convert. ■ SamWormley dfb8c418-076c-44fb-9c60-a5811fa811deo@googlegroups.com Jake_Tanner│jakes@uftpnc_org rhp6g3$3rb$1@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rhp77v$qj9$1@gioia.aioe.org Jake_Tanner│jakes@uftpnc_org rhp866$3rb$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--1.11pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m6 Shifty; 3.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤Android, Aioe.ORG, Aug 21 { :44pm, 2020 }: 6 YɚΧɾ Yay Scofflaws ! Viruses are a really, really stupid scapegoat. Governments continually say " HIV causes AIDS " because they don't want anyone to be -responsible- for the state of their immune system. When you do a lot of coke, and have a lot of gay sex, -- as people did during the 1980's --, it affects your immune system. " Yay gay sex ! yay Coke ! ", they say. Same thing is happening today, only now it's, " Yay Scofflaws ! ". The name of the virus has changed; otherwise, it's the same old story. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.19--9.22pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio rhku6p$nff$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.19--11.06pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m241 Top; 1.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 19 { 9:29pm, 2020 }:12^(-5) Yəʤц Our GDP is down for the count. 2008, the Fed lowered rates and purchased 4.5 trillion $ worth of bonds and mortgage-backed securities -- and they're still on the books. Did inflation go up ? no it did not. So far, the Fed hasn't touched the real economy; credit cards rates are still 27 % APR, and fewer cards are getting approved. Debt spirals are deflationary. > stagflation ? Our GDP is down for the count; it's not getting up anytime soon. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.19--9.22pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Deflation. Lacy Hunt ( Bond Bull ), Aug 14, 2020: // The problem is people want a financial // transaction to cover the problem. They // want greater levels of debt — in other // words, we’re going to try to solve an // indebtedness problem by taking on more // debt. Japan has tried many, many // heroic measures to try to pull // themselves out. Great results were promised. // // The production function says GDP is // determined by technology interacting // with land, labor and capital. If you // overuse one of the factors of // production, such as debt capital, // initially GDP will rise. You continue // to overuse that factor of production, // GDP flattens out; and if you continue // to overuse that factor, GDP declines. // More is not more — more is less. // // The possibility exists that technology // could step forward, and there are some // smart people, like Bill Gates, who // think technology will save us. But I // think the technology answer has been // provided to us by Dr. Robert Gordon at // Northwestern. He said in our period of // great growth from 1870 to 1970, we had // transformative, revolutionary // inventions. The combustion engine, // modern sanitation, electricity, modern // communication, pharmaceuticals and // chemicals. Each one of those things // enhanced the demand for labor and // natural resources. Think about the // natural resources and labor that were // require to effectuate the benefit of // the combustion engine. It led to the // assembly line, complex supply chains, // and we had to develop highways. // // The technological changes today are // more evolutionary, not revolutionary. // The production function is one of the // most fundamental relationships in all // of economics, and it’s telling us // we’re facing a period of difficult // growth. Given these other // circumstances, it’s going to be one in // which the inflation rate is going to // be trending down, possibly at a much // greater risk of deflation than inflation. ■ Sergio rhgslm$h6u$1@gioia.aioe.org Scot_Wagner│wsco22@pptncs_info rhgti1$1thm$3@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rhgu7b$17v7$1@gioia.aioe.org Scot_Wagner│wsco22@pptncs_info rhgus1$1thm$4@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rhh55l$e40$1@gioia.aioe.org Scot_Wagner│wsco22@pptncs_info rhhfa7$rns$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--2.37pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m29 Shifty; 12 Minutes, slnr/1_0_2, Aioe.ORG, Aug 18 { 1:56pm, 2020 }:40 Yɘκʠ Spreading fear. Scot Wagner wrote: > [ Communism ] is a predatory ideology Spreading fear just governments richer and more powerful. When a government knows you have money, they take it -- still, you won't starve; bread and circuses abound. Americans are obese and entertained; not starving and bored. Governments give freshly printed money to corrupt officials ( e.g. Kim Jong Un ) first, before it's devalued. Next, multi-national corporations get it, to fight the trade war ( vs. Nazi China ). The poorest pay for it, by decree. Back in 1943, the cost of delivering a baby was 1.5 weeks' wages ( no health insurance ); -- today, it takes 6 months' wages and insurance premiums rob you blind. Each year, one must work 3.83 % more hours to get the same result ( a money-sucking baby ). Forget having a barefoot and pregnant wife; it takes multiple people, with multiple incomes, just to pay the rent. ■ Sergio rhgslm$h6u$1@gioia.aioe.org Scot_Wagner│wsco22@pptncs_info rhgti1$1thm$3@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rhgu7b$17v7$1@gioia.aioe.org Scot_Wagner│wsco22@pptncs_info rhgus1$1thm$4@gioia.aioe.org Scot_Wagner│wsco22@pptncs_info rhgvlt$1thm$5@gioia.aioe.org Sergio rhh5b5$gg5$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--11.38am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m227 Top; 10.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 18 { 11: 6am, 2020 }:29^(-5) YɘΖT No food stamps in "communist" (fascist) China. Sergio wrote: > in Wuhan, they eat Bat bushmeat, > cause there is not enough hambergers. In China, most people have never tasted cheese or "beef" ( over-worked water Buffalo ). They can't digest milk/dairy. Also, they prefer fresh vegetables over American-style fast/frozen/canned food. Even in mega-cities, in skyscrapers, they buy live chickens and slaughter them at home; everything has to be super-fresh, like that. Wild animals ( cats, dogs and sewer rats ) are a real treat; they pay more for that. No food stamps in "communist" (fascist) China; no one eats for free. That's one way to cut down on fat; no wonder they're so skinny. Some restaurants weigh their customers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3xqManaKmo ■ FabianRussell rgr45c01de7@news4.newsguy.com DFS N8XYG.124931$d95.8201@fx06.iad FabianRussell rh5k6e0csa@news2.newsguy.com DFS jUxZG.389709$DO2.10382@fx45.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--10.48am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 4 m99 Top; 2.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 14 { 8:16am, 2020 }:29^(-4) YɕОЛ Amazon Fresh. Just now, on Amazon Fresh, I bought: $ 3.88: 2x 16oz Sour Cream .67: 1oz Onion Dip Mix 10.64: 8x 11oz Totino's Supreme Pizzas 8 : 4x 6oz Shredded Parmesan Cheese 2.29: 5 lbs Potatoes 9 : 12 Count Jimmy Dean Pancakes-n-Sausage 16.40: 10x 15oz Chunky Chili, Microwavable Bowls 3.38: 2x 6oz cans of Large Pitted Olives 19.90: 10x 1 lb boxes of Saltine Crackers 4 : 34oz Antiseptic Mouth Rinse, Blue Mint It'll arrive 1 hour from now, and I can track the driver on a map, even when he's walking. No delivery fee. The food was paid for using EBT SNAP, no sales tax. Walmart groceries can't be delivered to my house, here in NorthEast Seattle; even if they could, it'd cost me 13 $/month for next day delivery. I was going to buy this at my local Safeway store, but I forgot my mask, so I couldn't do it. ■ Sergio rh3mvc$p9u$1@gioia.aioe.org SamWormley 3907bb17-c92d-4ab1-b3d7-74c1fc0994c5o@googlegroups.com BiologyMajor│LSA@UMich_edu yJKdnaPW6ZkU-6jCnZ2dnUU7-RednZ2d@giganews.com SamWormley 0de4a31b-5810-4a90-b05d-a39f37cc9130o@googlegroups.com BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu SPKdnXjISOTGLKjCnZ2dnUU7-WvNnZ2d@giganews.com Helmut_Wabnig│hwabnig@_-_---_-_ t92djf1hkjdvuo08c63sasme8pcffa8l82@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--10.18am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity ╱ 1 m3 Cool; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, Individual.NET, Aug 14 { 5:54am, 2020 }:39^(2) YɕϷd Gravity is residual "eXergy". Gravity is residual "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work" ( force * distance ) ), as the universe goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. We are residual eXergy. "God" is nature. Randomness is ignorance. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--8.41am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV t6bajfhdjbgd7mrdf5amfu7g8o4g2719mp@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--5.57am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m30 Dropped; 35.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Aug 13 { 5:10am, 2020 }:21^(-5) Yɕ1Г A very compact/light 20'350 $ ! MrChrisV wrote: > I have 10 gold "Philharmonics" in my safe. That's a very compact/light 20'350 $ ! One could carry it around in a wallet. > Come and get them. 8) More likely, your wife will get them. ■ BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu pPidnUWYOYB2va3CnZ2dnUU7-dvNnZ2d@giganews.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--9.45am.Seattle.2020 BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu A_GdnQ30C7w8GK3CnZ2dnUU7-RfNnZ2d@giganews.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--4.50pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV, Sci.Physics.Relativity ╱ 4 m48 Top; 11.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM, Aug 9 { 4:24pm, 2020 }:14^(-4) YɒϚE We are residual eXergy. > Thank you emergent mathematics and complexity science > for showing me where to find God. > At last science and religion have found common ground. As Baruch Spinoza said, 350 years ago: "God" is nature. Gravity is residual "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work" ( force * distance ) ), as the universe goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. We are residual eXergy. Randomness is ignorance. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--3.07pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Can you explain this, Scott Doty ? Can you explain this, Scott Doty ?: https://www.youtube.com/user/lasseburholt/videos ■ BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu pPidnUWYOYB2va3CnZ2dnUU7-dvNnZ2d@giganews.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--9.45am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Rec.Arts.TV, Sci.Physics.Relativity ╱ 2 m41 Top; 20.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Giganews.COM, Aug 9 { 9:14am, 2020 }:33^(-4) Yɒʢʙ God "BiologyMajor" asked: > how [ the appearance of order ] is possible ? Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainably consume residual eXergy ), same as the sun. In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be. 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ). 695 trillion suns. "God" ( nature, General Relativity ) is static, immutable, changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing. Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ). ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--8.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Money evaporates. Jesus famously prayed for bread. In the Middle Ages, conquering armies looted cities and took slaves. Back in 1932, when unemployment was 24 %, an unskilled worker - lucky - enough to have a job would have to work 12 minutes to buy a loaf of bread ( 7.7¢ / ( 37¢ per hour ) * 60 ). Today, it's free if you're on food stamps; no need for a job; also, you can walk into a store, grab it, and walk out without paying -- no one will say anything. Or you can get it from a dumpster, or a food bank -- it's literally everywhere; no one is starving, quite the contrary. Artesian bread; countless varieties. That's deflation; chronic, long-term, predictable deflation. To have a baby, the story is different. But back in 1943, the cost of delivering a baby was 1.5 weeks' wages; no need for health insurance; -- today, it takes 6 months' wages and insurance premiums rob you blind. Each year, one must work 3.83 % more hours to get the same result ( a money-sucking baby ). What if you want to save your money, and not have someone, e.g. the government, or a scamster, take it from you ?! Money evaporates. Since 1932, the value of gold, in dollars, increased 100 fold, from 20.67 $/TroyOunce to 2067 $ today; so inflation is 5.37 %/year, minus the cost of guarding it, if you can. If someone knows you have it, they can get it. ■ MichaelMoroney rgk22n$9ft$1@pcls7.std.com Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rgk3f7$9iv$1@gioia.aioe.org MichaelMoroney rgk6ed$9qm$2@pcls7.std.com Sergio rgl3uu$1g62$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--11.31pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio rgmuo0$14c3$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.8--1.04pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m240 Top; 19.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 8 { :34pm, 2020 }:22^(-5) YɑщД Why does Russia depress me so ? Sergio replied ( to me ): > > I thought you were born in Russia. > > yep, and spent time there too Why does Russia depress me so ? It's just gray skies, dilapidated buildings, and beautiful, hopeless women. ■ BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu SN-dnUekMtVRrbbCnZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@giganews.com . 27e9843a-bc11-42a0-87a7-ff5fd0ad272eo@googlegroups.com BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu C6SdnanR58ut2LbCnZ2dnUU7-T_NnZ2d@giganews.com Chrysi_Cat│chrysicat@gmail_com mEQWG.136121$5_4.62791@fx40.iad J_Clarke│jclarke_873638@gmail_ ipctifdb3cparga6t9q4ljg5mj59crn4a9@4ax.com Chrysi_Cat│chrysicat@gmail_com msBXG.256587$eN2.198971@fx47.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.8--0.38pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m4 Shifty; 1.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Usenetserver.COM, Aug 8 { 10:40am, 2020 }:32^(-6) YɑжО - Kristallnacht - Chrysi_Cat wrote: > I AM a flaming knee-jerk liberal > and getting more so as it becomes clear > that we may well be looking at > a binary choice between fascism and Marxism, At least you own it, that's nice. Democrats are staring at themselves in the mirror when they scream " Racist ! "; they can't see any Republicans, nor do they want to. Like Nazi Germany, racism is the foundation of the Democrat's - regressive - movement. Like Nazi Germany ( and China today ), Democrats are constantly revising history, mimicking Mao's Cultural Devolution, lynching anyone suspected of WrongThought. Democrats promote Covid-spreading, violent rioters, - Kristallnacht -, and extensive graffiti if-and-only-if it supports the party. God forbid someone dream of going to church; Mao would roll over in his grave. The more panic one can induce, the more one can raise insurance premiums, taxes and regulations -- making one richer. America's 2018-2019 flu season saw nearly 61,200 deaths. January 1, 2020 to May 18, 2020 saw 83,000 COVID-19–associated deaths. "Associated deaths" ignores a multitude of factors. A sane society doesn't test everyone; rather, it quarantines the sick. ■ Sergio rgjnkv$10js$1@gioia.aioe.org Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rgjrr2$u77$1@gioia.aioe.org MichaelMoroney rgk22n$9ft$1@pcls7.std.com Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rgk3f7$9iv$1@gioia.aioe.org MichaelMoroney rgk6ed$9qm$2@pcls7.std.com Sergio rgl3uu$1g62$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--11.31pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m242 Top; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 7 { 7:51pm, 2020 }:11^(-5) YɑʔΠ Sergio Sergio wrote: > I lived on Guam in the 60's > I would go Boonie Stomping, exploring the jungle, > long sleves, tape pants legs to boots, gloves, hat, etc You're older than the hills, and twice as dusty. Why were you there ? I thought you were born in Russia. ■ HughHuntzinger 8fdb9a69-2efb-4f0e-8c9c-2b9494c32abdo@googlegroups.com MrChrisV o74riftbhabbvo0fm7jm0348cf79102got@4ax.com HughHuntzinger cdf1ba69-cb9d-4be3-ac22-3f61dc0980b2o@googlegroups.com SpamBot rgk942$isr$6@dont-email.me MrChrisV abbrifdgnidkp0guqcan76d1b5h0vf7g8t@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rgkasm$vvn$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--1.17pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m57 Cool; 13.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 7 { :43pm, 2020 }:18 YɑɅɌ Banks didn't sell their foreclosed homes. After the 2008 subprime boondoggle, banks didn't sell their foreclosed homes, they just let them sit empty, rent free, raking in the cash ( due to appreciation ). Three million $ homes sit idle, appreciating at an amazing rate; later, they sell for 8 million $. No one needs to pay rent because, last 12 years, the government has poured trillions of dollars into real estate, more than making up for it. ■ JimPennino hgcuvg-hij.ln1@mail.specsol.com BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu YNGdnXJ6CrGDj7DCnZ2dnUU7-cnNnZ2d@giganews.com Sergio rgjnkv$10js$1@gioia.aioe.org Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rgjrr2$u77$1@gioia.aioe.org MichaelMoroney rgk22n$9ft$1@pcls7.std.com Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rgk3f7$9iv$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--11.15am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ 1 m66 Cool; 1.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 7 { 10:36am, 2020 }:39 Yɑud The Firebombing of Tokyo [ worse than nukes ]. The Firebombing of Tokyo [ worse than nukes ]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdAvWfVD5Fk ■ SamWormley e2325262-667f-4f43-8633-3abf7916026do@googlegroups.com BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu YuadnR5jEMCT5rHCnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@giganews.com Sergio rgi8lv$1dft$4@gioia.aioe.org BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu hY2dnYc-Xct3irDCnZ2dnUU7-VXNnZ2d@giganews.com Sergio rgk1uh$1kk4$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--10.31am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m245 Top; 4.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 7 { 10:10am, 2020 }:41^(-5) YɑpЧ What's greener than a greenhouse ? Sergio noted: > the last [ grand solar minimum ] > cooled the earth by 20 degrees ! > a 7% reduction in solar output ! > > Glowball worming is expected to warm > the earth only 1.2 degrees by then ! Why is warming a bad thing ? Satellite images indicate that the earth is getting greener. What's greener than a greenhouse ? Shacks destroyed in hurricane alley, or in a forest that naturally burns, doesn't prove that Bill Gates, AOC, and Greta Thunberg are right. ■ JimPennino 1cvrvg-gob.ln1@mail.specsol.com BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu VsudnXVvnYVm77HCnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@giganews.com JimPennino hgcuvg-hij.ln1@mail.specsol.com BiologyMajor│LSA@Umich_edu YNGdnXJ6CrGDj7DCnZ2dnUU7-cnNnZ2d@giganews.com Sergio rgjnkv$10js$1@gioia.aioe.org Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rgjrr2$u77$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.7--9.02am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m65 Cool; 19.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 7 { 8:26am, 2020 }:26 YɑYʒ Mao would roll over in his grave. Odd_Bodkin replied ( to Sergio ): > > [ you think America ] > > had 8*12 = 96 Carriers ???? > > By the end of the war in 1945, > the US had 27 aircraft carriers "BiologyMajor" lies like a Democrat. They're constantly revising history, mimicking Mao's Cultural Devolution, lynching anyone suspected of WrongThought. Democrats promote Covid-spreading, violent rioters and extensive graffiti if-and-only-if it supports the party. God forbid someone dream of going to church; Mao would roll over in his grave. The more panic one can induce, the more one can raise insurance premiums, taxes and regulations -- making one richer. ■ SamWormley c0785821-6bbe-452d-850b-f36037182919o@googlegroups.com Sergio rghg47$ejk$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--11.32am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m228 Top; 32 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 6 { 10:54am, 2020 }:15^(-5) YɐΔF Every post from Sam Wormley. Every post from Sam Wormley is yet another ad from the CCP. The more panic one can induce, the more one can raise insurance premiums, taxes and regulations -- making one richer. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.6--11.24am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Seattle's mayor promotes Covid-spreading. Seattle's mayor promotes Covid-spreading, violent rioters and extensive graffiti if-and-only-if it supports her party -- it's pure politics. For the same reason, she doesn't want anyone working or going to school. Going to church is out of the question, because it -really- triggers her tyrannical hammer. Same thing is happening in China; she's mimicking the CCP. ■ SamWormley c1a3cf5f-513e-45bf-b6ad-7f05101e14a0o@googlegroups.com Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ abcc4494-1a84-48dc-9021-25ea3f1b251do@googlegroups.com Sergio rgbvd3$11v6$1@gioia.aioe.org Edward_Prochak│edprochak@gmail_ bf8f0ca6-3be4-4ee9-abd8-457e6cc9f47eo@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5--8.38am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 4 m64 Cool; 15 Hours, GoogleG, 174.131.48.120, Aug 4 { 4:59pm, 2020 }:23^(PDT) Yɍɷბ Tesla batteries cost: 52 $/month. Edward Prochak wrote: > $30,000 ICE car new > $30,000 maintenance over 150,000 miles > > $60,000 Tesla new > $ 2,000 maintenance (tires, brake pads) Tesla batteries cost: 52 $/month. Google: Tesla battery warranty 8 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first. Google: Tesla battery replacement cost between $3,000 and $7,000 That's about 5 thousand $ every 8 years; 52 $/month. ■ MrChrisV c68giftadq1nmuc06hmvoake1tfcf3eaqm@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 175de10d-6c5b-4a7a-96ca-1305c71a7efbo@googlegroups.com MrChrisV amdgifp2far96g43lacts52nfoa94sicu6@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 57790502-453e-4e6a-b858-123e2fb77bc1o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.3--1.55pm.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 47b7f49b-a31b-4570-8682-505b41e7f18fo@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.3--3.06pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m100 Dropped; 11.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.70.116.6, Aug 3 { 2:37pm, 2020 }:56^(PDT) YɌρɴ Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, Hugh Huntzinger. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > How is not going to work&church, > > rioting more each day, > > damaging people&property, a good idea ?! > > As prior: "Didn't say that it did." The vast majority of today's media, as well as most mayors and governors, are cheering on rioters even as they prohibit people from going to work and/or church. I count you among them. > > How is this regressive, cultural devolution, > > lynching anyone suspected of "wrong thought", > > not just mimicking China ?! > > The level of violence in protests is down > significantly since the Feds pulled back. Unfortunately for you, the world isn't how you and your buddies imagine it. Saturday night, in Portland: // As one group of protesters gathered // outside the courthouse -another- marched // to a precinct for the Multnomah County // Sheriff's Office -and- Portland Police Bureau. // // [ Lost boys ] threw glass bottles // and directed lasers at officers. // // By midnight, protesters again began // to march through the streets downtown. Democrats are "mostly peaceful" like OJ was "mostly peaceful" the night he killed his wife. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Democrats have defaulted on life itself; given up, joined the commune. // Protesters set a fire that severely // damaged the Elk Statue on Main Street // in downtown Portland and damaged // nearby bathrooms at Lownsdale Square // and Chapman Park, July 2, 2020. // the [graffitied] sculpture was to provide // an accessible watering place for // " bird, beast, and human ". ■ ScottDoty hoobklFefjlU4@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.3--5.18am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV c68giftadq1nmuc06hmvoake1tfcf3eaqm@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 175de10d-6c5b-4a7a-96ca-1305c71a7efbo@googlegroups.com MrChrisV amdgifp2far96g43lacts52nfoa94sicu6@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 57790502-453e-4e6a-b858-123e2fb77bc1o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.3--1.57pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m100 Dropped; 3 Hours, GoogleG, 173.70.116.6, Aug 3 { 10:50am, 2020 }: ^(PDT) YɌΓɸ Hugh Huntzinger: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Hugh Huntzinger imagined: > if I had to be hit in the face... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, Hugh Huntzinger. How is not going to work&church, rioting more each day, damaging people&property, a good idea ?! How is this regressive, cultural devolution, lynching anyone suspected of "wrong thought", not just mimicking China ?! ■ ScottDoty hoobklFefjlU4@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.3--5.18am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 4 m26 Cool; 17.9 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Aug 2 { 10:32am, 2020 }: 5 YɅеɽ Scott Doty monkeying China. // Protesters set a fire that severely // damaged the Elk Statue on Main Street // in downtown Portland and damaged // nearby bathrooms at Lownsdale Square // and Chapman Park, July 2, 2020. // the [graffitied] sculpture was to provide // an accessible watering place for // " bird, beast, and human ". High on pot, Scott Doty imagined: > [rioters] are not violating any federal laws. Three cops were permanently blinded by lasers. Bombs and bottles were thrown, arrests were made. If you get harmed while attacking Portland, permanently damaging people and property, it's your own damn fault; -- play stupid games, win stupid prizes. By the way, why is not going to work, and not going to church, and rioting more each day, permanently damaging people and property, getting Scott Doty's blessing ?! How is this regressive, cultural devolution, lynching anyone suspected of "wrong thought", not just Democrats monkeying China ?! > The protests are confined to > a 2 block radius around the courthouse, How can you be so blind, Scott ?! ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rg4sgr$1hm$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--10.04pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m46 Cool; 4.6 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 1 { 4: 6pm, 2020 }: 3 YɅɯ3 If hope is your thing... RonB mention: > More panic porn by the Main Stream Media... If you're in love with fear, and you just can't get enough of it, and you want to remain in your bunker, only coming out to kill and maim, then you're a solid Democrat. If hope is your thing, you're a Republican. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--11.24pm.Seattle.2020 whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net rg460f$ueg$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--8.41pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m119 Dropped; 10.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 1 { 9:41am, 2020 }:37^(-5) YɅkჟ The fall of America. An anonymous coward replied ( to me ): > > It's the Spanish Inquisition all over again, > > the dark ages, per the fall of Rome. > > Wrong. Medieval Knights sacked Jerusalem; brought back slaves and other treasures. Eventually, this gave way to knight-errants; Don Quixote. Such is the intolerance of today's dark ages, per the fall of America. Mao's Cultural Devolution is alive and well, here in America; in Portland, they tore down the long beloved elk fountain ! ! These (lost) boys are "mostly peaceful" like OJ was "mostly peaceful" the day he killed his wife. The city is sick, infirm, incapable of functioning; in a word, it defaulted. It's rotten to the core. Democrats are staring at themselves in the mirror when they scream " Racist ! "; they can't see any Republicans, nor do they want to. Like Nazi Germany, racism is the foundation of the Democrat's - regressive - movement. Like Nazi Germany ( and China today ), Democrats don't tolerate " Wrong Thought ". Can protests spread the virus ? https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jim-jordan-presses-dr-fauci-covid-19-protest-hypocrisy ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--11.24pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics The Spanish Inquisition has returned. In America, "Right Think" mobs kill cops with impunity, ( per Mao's cultural devolution ) and the mainstream media, -- including YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter -- cheers them on, lynching "Wrong Think" opponents. Same thing is happening in China's ReEducation camps. It's the Spanish Inquisition all over again, the dark ages, per the fall of Rome. ■ Thank you, Bruce Wilds. Some people are so nasty, no one wants to be around them; previously, they were jailed and/or killed. Today, we need a softer solution; "Luxury jails", as found in Norway, would be a wonderful start. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.29--0.44pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Stella Immanuel speaks on Hydroxychloroquine. At the White Coat Summit, Stella Immanuel speaks on Hydroxychloroquine; to wit: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/White.Coat.Summit.Stella.Immanuel.on.Hydroxychloroquine.mp4 ■ KWills│kwills@invalid_invalid MPG.398a0af773529ef4989686@us.news.astraweb.com Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com ceg0if56e7nsvebo5s960md8mmevvp1etf@4ax.com KWills│kwills@invalid_invalid MPG.398a10a9a343d2bb989688@us.news.astraweb.com Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com fgm0if58j2ba0u2mpafsk1k7oc9au7jvso@4ax.com KWills│kwills@invalid_invalid MPG.398a2d0aee7c2d4a98968a@us.news.astraweb.com Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com vtp0ift7c6f41ohsuckdp5gu0a164llnaa@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.29--2.12am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc -Dropped, 14.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 28 { 11: 3am, 2020 }:28^(-4) YɀΕι Overt, Violent Racism. // Ohio [black] man [ out on parole ] // in custody after kneeling on crying // White child's neck, // praising Black Lives Matter. FoxNews.COM/us/viral-photo-kneeling-white-baby-neck-black-lives-matter-arrest // an Atlanta-area high school // special education teacher is under // fire for purportedly commenting // // beneath the same photo once it made // its way to Facebook further // encouraging the violence against the // white child. // // DeKalb County School District said // it's committed to [ overt, violent ] racism // in our school district. Again: Democrats are staring at themselves in the mirror when they scream " Racist ! "; they can't see any Republicans, nor do they want to. Like Nazi Germany, racism is the foundation of the Democrat's "progressive" movement. Like Nazi Germany ( and China today ), Democrats don't tolerate " Wrong Thought ". Mao's Cultural Revolution is alive and well, here in America; in Portland, they tore down the long beloved elk fountain ! ! These (lost) boys are "mostly peaceful" like OJ was "mostly peaceful" the day he killed his wife. The city is sick, infirm, incapable of functioning; in a word, it defaulted. It's rotten to the core. ■ mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rfmsci$o2d$4@dont-email.me MrChrisV lbeuhf9ot0nevmcmgrmo73aauj4vv0po4g@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 7f3cd3f9-6296-482d-a9c6-45e60ff6ef8bo@googlegroups.com MrChrisV spguhfp65j3vaplabjpd0f2vtq3n9krl0l@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 7c0491ca-e972-45c4-b4cb-9201972a4d83o@googlegroups.com DFS MUVTG.82278$TO4.32385@fx05.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--11.33am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m68 Top; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 28 { 6:40am, 2020 }:23^(-4) YɀʈЕ search/messageid= > > > See > > > > Sorry, but Google Groups can't readily find posts by ID#. > > http://al.howardknight.net https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/messageid=rfnf6m$vsk$1@dont-email.me https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/messageid$3Arfnf6m$24vsk$241@dont-email.me ■ Skeeter│Scoot@invalid_invalid aeauhf17kqarh4onfpls2ebiaui469p1jt@4ax.com mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rfnb3v$21j$3@dont-email.me MrChrisV 92cuhfpvfoem1kj0v6tl3sop3v8ngmod97@4ax.com TRUMP_2020│POTUS@invalid_ 3rcuhfpdm5qht5i037o0jud4lpqalagkfl@4ax.com mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rfncfi$21j$5@dont-email.me Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann rfnd8b$cho$6@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--5.54pm.Seattle.2020 ➤Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╳ 2 m2 Shifty; 4.2 Hours, KNode, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 27 { 1:25pm, 2020 }:12^(2) YȿგȾ Peter Kohlmann has been brainwashed. Peter Köhlmann has been brainwashed. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.45am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger d5b7a7fd-cd38-4d24-8cac-fa19697d95eco@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--9.52am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 0b09fa68-4466-4120-96b9-8855d10a5c97o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--11.08am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 25e02c0b-414e-40b9-a504-60a0f6edb920o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--5.19pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m84 Dropped; 1 Hours, GoogleG, 129.139.162.232, Jul 27 { 11:26am, 2020 }: 3^(PDT) Yȿоɻ Thre Riot Index. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > "Flu" deaths have been increasing, last 3 years; > > as the economy tanks, so does our health. > > A valid point, and what's also noteworthy is that > if such a correlation is present, then it doesn't > appear to be tracking to traditional measures of > "Economy" that the media reports, such as the DJIA > or potentially even unemployment rate. Consumer > anxiety is a stressor on health too. We need a "Riot Index", or some such. Poor/Lost boys, rioting in the streets, globally, are "canaries in a coal mine"; they feel the pain years before the "coal miners". Mostly, it's not on the radar; I see it, Warren Buffett sees it; Gary Shilling sees it best. Shilling tracks people's faith in the government, or some such -- last 40 years, it's been falling, along with interest rates, back to 1934 levels; to wit: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/1934.All.Over.Again.PNG > > One must have an - extreme - sense of well-being > > to not feel the need to have 400 $ in the bank. > > [...] unexpected-expenses [...] Poor/Lost boys are extremely confident; they're not worried about the future. > > A sane man doesn't stop living > > just because life is dangerous. > > A few will take no precautions whatsoever and crash. Because we don't live in a nanny state; we're free to choose a more reckless life. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.36am.Seattle.2020 Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe@gmail_ c52d64c0-a59a-41b5-872d-2b9a1a087591o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--10.15am.Seattle.2020 Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rfn3fn$vrn$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--0.20pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m79 Cool; 41.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Jul 27 { 10:39am, 2020 }: 3 YȿжΘ I've no desire to live like Bodkin. You ( Bodkin ) told me: > you have lived for so long in squalor > and in rooming houses suitable for > the dreck of mankind, That's your opinion, not mine. How much money must I have before you'll respect me -- and why should I care ? Trying to keep up with the Joneses is a surefire way to live the most miserable life imaginable. > you see squalor and ruin everywhere. I saw today's (horrid) recession 3 years before it arrived. At the time, I kept wondering, googling, trying to find out why others didn't see it. Same thing happened back in 2005, 3 years before the recession hit the broader economy. Warren Buffett saw it, but Gary Shilling has/had the clearest view; he knows years in advance what will happen and why. Last 40 years, Shilling's T-bond investments outperformed the stock market 6 fold -- no one knows his wealth, so he doesn't get respect. As it turns out, T-bond investors really are smarter than stock investors, like Shilling says. > You are the product of your own lifestyle choices. Thank you !! I couldn't be any prouder, trust me. I don't envy you in the slightest, not in any way, shape or form. > Your view of the economy is littered with needles and fast food. It's been years since I last tasted a bit of fast food; many years. I'm surrounded by drug addicts, snakes, lost boys; but I don't partake. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction is a basic human right. When the (infirm) state defaults, forcing enemies to reside together, things get real ugly, real fast. Lives are lost. > Your view of health is tilted by > your preference to work while reclining. I'm loving my life, I'm proud of every choice I made; I've no desire to live like you, none at all; you have no right to criticize me. It isn't just viruses that are varying, our immune systems also vary, depending on our physical and mental health. "Flu" deaths have been increasing, last 3 years; as the economy tanks, so does our health. In the 1980's, they were doing too much cocaine, destroying their immune systems; like today, they blamed it on a ridiculous virus, to absolve themselves of all guilt. > Your view of of the social safety net is tainted > with drug addicts and thieves. Society offered me free food, so I took it. Free medical too, but I haven't taken it; I thought about getting dentures, but I didn't do it. Society invented these taxes+regulations, for their own benefit; I had nothing to do with it. ■ ScottDoty ho8gnnF5bepU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--11.18am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Talk.Politics.Misc ╱ 1 m35 Cool; 19.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Jul 27 { 10:20am, 2020 }:55 Yȿгʯ The 1980's. Scott Doty wrote: > When encountering casual ( or not-so-casual ) racism > -- don't let them get away with that shit. > Call 'em out! Silence is violence. "Silence is violence" is an early 1980's term. Then, they were doing too much cocaine, destroying their immune systems. And, like today, they blamed it on a ridiculous virus, to absolve themselves of all guilt. ■ MrChrisV 9bdthf5lm37tu0u67opp0809kmskqohqqv@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 4e416931-ef37-4eb2-a63d-2c2e44f94a46o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.45am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger d5b7a7fd-cd38-4d24-8cac-fa19697d95eco@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--9.52am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger 0b09fa68-4466-4120-96b9-8855d10a5c97o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--11.08am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m82 Dropped; 12.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.70.116.6, Jul 27 { 10:28am, 2020 }: 5^(PDT) Yȿдϳ Socialists attribute - everything - to external forces. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > "Associated deaths" ignores a multitude of factors. > > Sure, but [it's] basically unchanged year to year No, that's where you're wrong. It isn't just viruses that are varying, our immune systems also vary, depending on our physical and mental health. "Flu" deaths have been increasing, last 3 years; as the economy tanks, so does our health. > > "Relative Wealth" is meaningless. > > It isn't meaningless when ~60% of US households > are today put at risk by an unexpected $400 expense. One must have an - extreme - sense of well-being to not feel the need to have 400 $ in the bank. Socialists attribute - everything - to external forces; genius or moron, saint or sinner, no one's "choices" matter. > > Should one pursue more wealth just because > > a sea of drooling morons are packing on debt ?! > > Depends on why their running up debt, doesn't it? Because society forced the drooling morons into it; savers are punished, borrowers are rewarded. Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens. Trying to keep up with the Joneses is a surefire way to live the most miserable life imaginable. > > A sane society doesn't test everyone; > > rather, it quarantines the sick. > > But just how do you find the sick to quarantine them, Relf? One doesn't find them, they find you. > Likewise, do you then knowingly ignore everyone that they > had contact with while they were known to be contagious ? Yes, a sane man doesn't stop living just because life is dangerous. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.36am.Seattle.2020 Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe@gmail_ c52d64c0-a59a-41b5-872d-2b9a1a087591o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--10.15am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m18 Cool; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, 66.91.21.231, Jul 27 { 8:54am, 2020 }:51^(PDT) YȿХp We've seen this before. Alan Folmsbee projected: > Trump is fascist. We've seen this before. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rfindo$id6$2@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rfj6gu$mrg$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV 9bdthf5lm37tu0u67opp0809kmskqohqqv@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 4e416931-ef37-4eb2-a63d-2c2e44f94a46o@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.45am.Seattle.2020 HughHuntzinger d5b7a7fd-cd38-4d24-8cac-fa19697d95eco@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--9.52am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m79 Dropped; 13.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.70.116.6, Jul 27 { 8: 4am, 2020 }:21^(PDT) YȿМГ Purveyors of panic porn. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > Compared to last year, twice as many people > > are dying this "Covid" season. > > The latest CDC estimate I've heard is ~6.8x higher. The only variable purveyors of panic porn ever consider is the strength of the virus, which is unknowable, because the strength of our immune systems is also a factor. The more panic they can induce, the more they can raise insurance premiums, taxes and regulations -- making them richer. America's 2018-2019 flu season saw nearly 61,200 deaths. January 1, 2020 to May 18, 2020 saw 83,000 COVID-19–associated deaths. "Associated deaths" ignores a multitude of factors. > > And it has nothing to do with the virus per se; > > rather, it's about America's (mental) health. > > Unfortunately, because of income inequality... "Relative Wealth" is meaningless. Should one pursue more wealth just because a sea of drooling morons are packing on debt ?! > > a sane society quarantines the sick, not the healthy. > > Which requires testing. A sane society doesn't test everyone; rather, it quarantines the sick. ■ mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rfigvi$787$1@dont-email.me RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rfindo$id6$2@dont-email.me mGhost│mGhost@mouse-potato_com rfj6gu$mrg$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV 9bdthf5lm37tu0u67opp0809kmskqohqqv@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 4e416931-ef37-4eb2-a63d-2c2e44f94a46o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.45am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy -Dropped, 19.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.70.116.6, Jul 27 { 7:22am, 2020 }:31^(PDT) YȿЕН America's (mental) health. You're focused on the wrong thing, Hugh. Compared to last year, twice as many people are dying this "Covid" season. And it has nothing to do with the virus per se; rather, it's about America's (mental) health. A sane man gets in his car, despite the danger; a sane society quarantines the sick, not the healthy. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--7.36am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Regressive cities. In regressive cities, like Seattle and New York, where the cultural devolution is strongest, people smash, burn and kill with impunity. The (semi)famous must be 100 % pure AOC; anything else will get you lynched, CCP style. Trump's DHS agents can't reverse this. ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rfafg6$46r$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV l8plhfpjf9uiimve2o9soh2ap7pse1i5f0@4ax.com HughHuntzinger ce9e08d1-22f1-4416-b492-e4b753a4f31fo@googlegroups.com TheRealSteve rff1sr$bds$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.35pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 6 m65 Cool; 1.2 Days, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 24 { 9:22am, 2020 }:51 YȽЩб America's (mental) health. Compared to last year, twice as many people are dying this "Covid" season. And it has nothing to do with the virus per se; rather, it's about America's (mental) health. A sane man gets in his car, despite the danger; a sane society quarantines the sick, not the healthy. ■ Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com ra1hhf9ht12mtievq0474a12f0v3dsloh7@4ax.com DFS tC%RG.28768$nI.27479@fx21.iad Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com 6t2hhf9dhssukh829gb6v2suvs9jqjq8si@4ax.com DFS Em0SG.77391$GQ4.8561@fx02.iad Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com npdhhfd2s3se0otcgsfv5b37ptbcq3ubfg@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com rfh3aq$6lj$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.24pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m55 Cool; 9.8 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 25 { 3:59am, 2020 }:38 YȾɭრ Rotten to the core. Democrats are staring at themselves in the mirror when they scream " Racist ! "; they can't see any Republicans, nor do they want to. Like Nazi Germany, racism is the foundation of the Democrat's "progressive" movement. Like Nazi Germany ( and China today ), Democrats don't tolerate " Wrong Thought ". Mao's Cultural Revolution is alive and well, here in America; in Portland, they tore down the long beloved elk fountain ! ! These (lost) boys are "mostly peaceful" like OJ was "mostly peaceful" the day he killed his wife. The city is sick, infirm, incapable of functioning; in a word, it defaulted. It's rotten to the core. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--1.47pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Technology doesn't always advance. Technology doesn't always advance; check out the ruins in Mexico. When Rome fell, 376 AD, the dark ages came; -- a thousand years of "nothing". Today's British Empire isn't as extensive as it once was. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--1.47am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall e5qjhfluvgm8d8p6idcdfk70j3bgln81si@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--5.14pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m24 Cool; 4.2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 23 { :45pm, 2020 }:42^(-4) YȽɅχ I can't wait to see the next episode. Hømer keeps telling me: > Get the fuck OUT of that shit-hole > liberal city or you're head will > remain totally fucked. Seattle is a zombie city. To get a feel for it, watch "Death Wish 3", 1985. As I said: No one needs to pay rent because, last 12 years, the government has poured trillions of dollars into real estate, more than making up for it. If that ever changes, the price of real estate will fall to Zero and beyond -- banks will fail. Truth is, it's kind of interesting; I can't wait to see the next episode. At least I don't live in China, where "wrong thought" lands you in a ReEducation camp, sans dignity. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--10.36pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate No one needs to pay rent. No one needs to pay rent because, last 12 years, the government has poured trillions of dollars into real estate, more than making up for it. If that ever changes, the price of real estate will fall to Zero and beyond -- banks will fail. I'd rather have nests of rabid vipers, hanging out somewhere in my room, than a rental property. ■ DFS 74JRG.43787$Li1.20958@fx11.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--10.26am.Seattle.2020 DFS eM_RG.16866$CM.12216@fx01.iad ScottDoty hnrd3iFb063U2@mid.individual.net MrChrisV re0hhf5s89ae9jj5bfp9fqp9998ab2f2v9@4ax.com DFS rB%RG.28767$nI.18023@fx21.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--1.20pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m67 Top; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 22 { 11:32am, 2020 }:35^(-4) YȼΚʛ George Floyd is the new Jesus. George Floyd is the new Jesus; the mayors of Portland and Seattle are his disciples. Without him, their lives would be meaningless. "Fuck you", is the primary tenet. Everyone and their dog is defaulting; no one gives a damn. Why do Asian-Americans earn more than whites ? Asian-American Culture; -- not "systemic racism", not biology. Why do men earn more than women ? Male Culture; -- not "misogyny", not biology. ■ DFS iD3RG.54328$bQ4.53106@fx04.iad TheRealSteve rf2ii9$dd3$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS I9gRG.207989$PN2.3218@fx48.iad TheRealSteve rf4b09$pnr$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org DFS tLiRG.88973$5_4.77029@fx40.iad TheRealSteve rf4elk$aiv$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--10.41am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 24 m59 Cool; 2.1 Days, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 20 { 8:53am, 2020 }:24 YȻcგ Steve's divorce. Let's talk about your divorce, Steve. Older, wiser people can't be fooled; we don't trust anyone, man or woman. Also, we're too ugly to be targets. ■ DFS 74JRG.43787$Li1.20958@fx11.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--10.26am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m56 Top; 19.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 21 { 2:27pm, 2020 }:28^(-4) YȻნι Bi-Curious, first nation, African-American female, transitioning. DFS wrote: > Under the 'underrepresented and/or > marginalized group' I entered > ' Other: White male '. I would've put Bi-curious, first nation, African-American female, transitioning. It's not true, but the truth doesn't matter anymore. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--1.47am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Everyone, Everywhere, is Defaulting. People are weaker today, stressed; so we're seeing twice as many "flu" (Covid) deaths as the prior year. My God, if only society were sane, it'd quarantine the sick, not the healthy. A sane man gets in his car, despite potential death. Like no-fault divorce, no-fault eviction is a basic human right. When the (infirm) state defaults, forcing enemies to reside together, things get real ugly, real fast. The tenant defaults, the landlord defaults, the mayor defaults, the governor defaults, every country defaults. China has millions of dissidents in ReEducation camps; if you like to speak your mind, like a bad slave, China is not the place. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.20--7.24pm.Seattle.2020 Janithor│Janithor@comcast_net rf5ju3$84g$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.20--8.10pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m13 Dropped; 29.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 20 { 7:29pm, 2020 }:20^(-7) YȻʐю Do you need ReEducation ? Janithor replied ( to me ): > > Black Portland Cop SLAMS Racist White Antifa. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvaTOVQdanc > > it's a Marxist revolution. No, it's a Maoist "Cultural Revolution". Do you need ReEducation ? 1.5 million Muslims are being "ReEducated" in XinJiang concentration camps. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MuslimConcentrationCamps.JPG ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.20--7.24pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Black Portland Cop SLAMS Racist White Antifa. Black Portland Cop SLAMS Racist White Antifa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvaTOVQdanc ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--8.24pm.Seattle.2018 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns Welfare is a luxury only the rich can afford. Welfare is a luxury only the rich can afford; slowly, China is approaching AmericanStyle welfare. In Utah (U.S.A.), my High Schooling was free, though my family was middle class -- not so in China. Currently, I get 192$/month in "food stamps" (SNAP) which can be used to buy most any food, anywhere, including IceCream, fresh meat/fruit/milk, and frozen "pies" ( Sweet & Salty ). China has _never_ seen anything like this, above; free rice and soy sauce, back in the 1970's, doesn't compare. Outside of the city, old|disabled people get 70 Yuan/month; inside, they get about 450/month; former government employees get around 1,200/month (190$). 27 MegaBitPerSecond down, 6 up, no data limit, internet is free with rent. In "my" Seattle, old|disabled people get (nearly) free housing; "SeattleHousing.ORG" says: Applicants who are at least 62, income eligible and reside within the city of Seattle receive the highest preference points for SSHP waiting lists. University District: 1 to 2 years Green Lake: 1 to 2 years ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--4.41pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics The Vatican is more credible than the New York Times. The Vatican is more credible, and less biased, than the New York Times. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/declassified-christopher-steeles-primary-sub-source-was-his-own-employee-nyt-russiagate ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--5.02pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics People are sicker today, stressed. Ebola was scary because it was unknown; in the end, Americans were safe. Same with Covid-19. People are sicker today, stressed; so we're seeing twice as many "flu" (Covid-19) deaths as the prior year. A sane person quarantines the sick, not the healthy. Also he flys&drives, fully knowing that there's a chance he may die. ■ DFS eWWPG.43980$Vp4.4142@fx44.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--9.20am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m51 Top; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 16 { 4:32am, 2020 }:43^(-4) Yȸɳʣ The best mobile devices run Win10. The less-informed imagine: > the PC is disappearing like > the mainframes of the past. The best mobile devices run Win10; "VoIP.MS" is the best service provider; its SMS "texts" send&receive photos; incoming texts are emailed as well, if you'd rather use an email client. Minimum cost: 85 cents per MONTH. Actual cost: 33 dollars per YEAR. I pay 5 years in advance. The Microsoft PC tower on my desktop looks like the one I had back in 1983, 37 years ago, in Orem Utah. Back then, I worked for a Computer-Assisted Training company that escaped New York City. My PC was connected to a server farm that looked like the ones we have today. Back then, kiosks were "dumb terminals", for unfortunate people/kids/targets, not "smart phones". ■ . rem22b$o32$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--7.45am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV lu7ugfdengf24g6id20l8s4nvdj7oh7e9i@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--8.35am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV un8ugfpa8ljqi0nv0q8doebliluaerrar2@4ax.com DFS HeQPG.62034$zX4.31764@fx41.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--9.12pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m56 Top; 3.6 Minutes, DFS_Access/python_hack, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 15 { 8:54pm, 2020 }: 4^(-4) Yȸd4 Steve Carroll is a good programmer, JavaScript. DFS wrote: > [ ChrisV has refused to submit code for ] > the challenhallges that have been posted here > > Even the half-ass programmer Feeb Russell > tries sometime. Steve Carroll is a good programmer, JavaScript. ■ . scudncCsW4E81v7InZ2dnUU7-cMAAAAA@giganews.com SamWormley 5b581596-0a7a-4f7e-8910-4374b102c23do@googlegroups.com Bkù_Stávky│bkusw@npnsv_nc renjj5$1rat$10@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--0.36pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m21 Shifty; 17.7 Minutes, Alpine, Aioe.ORG, Jul 15 { 11:57am, 2020 }:41 Yȷуφ Blue Lives Matter. Sam's stalker, a cowardly NymShifter, wrote: > Australian Cops Force a Man into Locked Down > With People Who Tested Positive > BitChute.COM/video/PCeUbKSUliI/ > > These officers need to be arrested along > with everybody involved. Sue the politicians who control the police. The police are just doing a thankless job; truly, they're as heroic as firefighters. Blue Lives Matter. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.43pm.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rem651$j6q$4@pcls7.std.com Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff daj8ar.bsk.17.146@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--7.19am.Seattle.2020 snipeco_2@gmail_com(Sn!pe 1otl9k4.yemmdv13v0m2fN%snipeco.2@gmail.com Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com ren836$1oeb$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--9.00am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m73 Cool; 50 Secs, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Jul 15 { 8:41am, 2020 }:26 YȷТე Living to 60 was unthinkable. Us animals have few options: -- Live faster, die sooner. -- Live slower, die later. // You can live to be a hundred if you give up // all the things that make you want to live // to be a hundred. -- Woody Allen You ( Bodkin, Snipe ) have no right to chastise someone for choosing one over the other. I made my choices, and I love it. For 99.99% of human existence, only a lucky few lived long enough to reproduce; -- living to 60 was unthinkable. > shitting in a ladle My "Vittles Vault" usage is pure genius. Once every 5 weeks I put it in a contractor bag in the dumpster and cover it with wet garbage, so homeless people don't get into it. ■ . b6d7d24f-d409-46a5-8b00-b0f0730e60f3o@googlegroups.com . relr3t$v9m$1@gioia.aioe.org . ea2a2ae9-43ba-4d4f-91f6-63e4f69e1d4do@googlegroups.com . rem22b$o32$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--7.45am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV lu7ugfdengf24g6id20l8s4nvdj7oh7e9i@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--8.35am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m158 Dropped; 8 Secs, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jul 15 { 8:27am, 2020 }: 8^(-5) YȷРΝ The Asian-American culture. MrChrisV replied ( to me ): > > Why do Asian-Americans earn more than whites ? > > Culture -- not "systemic racism", not biology. > > > > Why do men earn more than women ? > > Culture -- not "misogyny", not biology. > > "Culture" needs to be corrected, > if a women makes less than a man, > for no good reason. I'm talking about the Asian-American culture, and the male culture, not society in general. > " What's wrong with it ? " - DFS, > regarding the use of a #pragma to disable > 17 different types of compiler warnings It's absurd to think that - all - warnings are helpful. I turn on - all - warnings ( level 4 ), then discard the ones that aren't helpful. DFS and I are actual programmers; i.e. we program computers for a living. ■ Arindam_Banerjee│ 96fa20ef-91a1-449f-ad4b-a4a5ee46a2b5o@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rekjvk$76d$1@gioia.aioe.org Arindam_Banerjee│ b6d7d24f-d409-46a5-8b00-b0f0730e60f3o@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com relr3t$v9m$1@gioia.aioe.org Arindam_Banerjee│ ea2a2ae9-43ba-4d4f-91f6-63e4f69e1d4do@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rem22b$o32$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--7.45am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m208 Mad; 8.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 14 { 9:52pm, 2020 }:26^(-5) YȷʨИ Asian-American Culture. // Truth isn’t a process of collective discovery, // but an orthodoxy already known to // an enlightened few whose job is // to inform everyone else. // -- Bari Weiss, // NYT resignation-letter, July 2020. "Black Lives Matter" is the Democrat religion; heresy will not be tolerated, and the end (Marxism) justifies the means (murder). Why do Asian-Americans earn more than whites ? Asian-American Culture; -- not "systemic racism", not biology. Why do men earn more than women ? Male Culture; -- not "misogyny", not biology. ■ . uQMOG.85927$Av7.4859@fx34.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.09pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rei07k$u0d$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.43pm.Seattle.2020 MichaelMoroney rem651$j6q$4@pcls7.std.com Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff daj8ar.bsk.17.146@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--7.19am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m39 Cool; 4 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Jul 15 { 2:38am, 2020 }: ^(-7) Yȷρɸ 60 years is plenty, I think. Speaking of my diminished physical capacity, Checkmate replied ( to Michael Moroney ): > > When you try to use [lung] capacity you > > SHOULD have but don't, you tire quickly. > > Jeff sounds anemic to me. > He probably has kidney disease. It could be one of many things or a combination; no one knows -- the cause(s) may never be known. Age is definitely a factor, no doubt. If I die early, so be it; 60 years is plenty, I think. ■ Tim_Murray│TimMurray@hotmail_ 0001HW.24BCFAF500034B1370000AF0338F@SSL.usenetstorm.com SamWormley ae67f8de-efc5-4dde-a560-f2c130cad03do@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rekrmt$1n59$2@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.00pm.Seattle.2020 SamWormley 64f583d8-f6a8-4096-96a7-10f09ca405f7o@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.41pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m620 Dropped; 8.5 Minutes, GoogleG, Jul 14 { 3: 9pm, 2020 }:15^(PDT) YȷɥΥ Pizza burritos ( with tomatoes ). Sam replied ( to me ): > > To prepare a defrosted pizza, I add stuff > > ( beans, meat, BBQ sauce and cheese ) and zap it > > in the microwave; then I eat it like a burrito. > > What about fresh fruits and vegetables ? Yes, I should do that more. Fresh tomatoes are good. ■ SamWormley 770aa941-9c97-4d36-aec0-057fec89213co@googlegroups.com Bkù_Stávky│bkusw@npnsv_nc rel3qc$1500$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 11.5 Minutes, Alpine, Aioe.ORG, Jul 14 { 1:16pm, 2020 }:12 YȷɒϺ I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. -- Ronald Reagan, August 1986 Whatever else history may say about me when I’m gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears; to your confidence rather than your doubts. My dream is that you will travel the road ahead with liberty’s lamp guiding your steps and opportunity’s arm steadying your way. -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, January 1989 ■ Tim_Murray│TimMurray@hotmail_ 0001HW.24BCFAF500034B1370000AF0338F@SSL.usenetstorm.com SamWormley ae67f8de-efc5-4dde-a560-f2c130cad03do@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rekrmt$1n59$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.00pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m204 Mad; 2.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 14 { 10:57am, 2020 }:51^(-5) Yȷxϗ Pizza burritos. Sergio wrote: > I never pre-heat the oven; > pot pies come out fine, > > sometimes there is ice in the middle, > but at least it's crunchy. I take pizzas out of the freezer and let them defrost in the fridge. To prepare one, I put extra stuff on top ( beans, meat, BBQ sauce and cheese ) and zap it in the microwave; then I eat it like a burrito. ■ . rei07k$u0d$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.43pm.Seattle.2020 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.46pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 705rgfthmj3rmcebaqciem82lufslc1i3m@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.23am.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV rturgflu93fdt3j4opif4gla24m0ste874@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.36pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m150 Dropped; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jul 14 { 11:44am, 2020 }:46^(-5) Yȷȹʦ Wasting a fraction of the 1.6 cent experience. MrChrisV replied ( to me ): > > 42 rollies per day; the tobacco > > weighs less than what you'd find > > in a pack of cigarettes, maybe 15 grams. > > They must be pins! Yes, they look like this: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Rollie.JPG I roll them tighter than most people do; still, mine aren't as thin as "UltraSlim" cigarettes ( for ladies ). > > I roll my own using pipe tobacco; > > pipe tobacco has a much lower tax. > > Is pipe tobacco meant to be inhaled ? > It's got weird flavorings, usually, no ? Not necessarily, depends on what you buy; I'm not a deep inhaler, I "taste" them. > > Rolling is actually more fun than smoking. > > You do it by hand ? Yes, barehanded, no devices. > I used a little machine, to roll/stuff them. > It was surprisingly mild, considering no filter. It's more fun to do it by hand, sans devices ( rollers | injectors ). Instead of a cotton filter, I just toss the roach (butt), un-smoked, wasting a fraction of the 1.6 cent experience. ■ DFS uQMOG.85927$Av7.4859@fx34.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.09pm.Seattle.2020 . rei07k$u0d$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.43pm.Seattle.2020 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.46pm.Seattle.2020 MrChrisV 705rgfthmj3rmcebaqciem82lufslc1i3m@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.23am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m157 Dropped; 1.3 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jul 14 { 4:18am, 2020 }:32^(-5) YȶჯW 21 $ / MONTH. MrChrisV asked me: > How many cigs do you smoke, in a day, Relf ? > It's an expensive habit, too ! About 42 rollies per day; the tobacco weighs less than what you'd find in a pack of cigarettes, maybe 15 grams. It's about 69 cents per day, including the Bic lighters. I roll my own using pipe tobacco; pipe tobacco has a much lower tax. Rolling is actually more fun than smoking. It's 21 $ / MONTH; to wit: 50 Bic Lighters, 49 $, every 4 years. 1.02 $ / MONTH. 54 thousand rolling papers ( 9x 20x 300 leaves ) every 3.5 years. 350 $ / 3.5 YEARS, 8.33 $ / MONTH. 30 pounds of tobacco ( 6x 5 lbs ) every 2.5 years. 350 $ / 2.5 YEARS, 11.67 $ / MONTH. ■ Black Lives Matter is a new-age religion; sadly, it's quite violent -- lots of killing. Blue Lives Matter too. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 . uQMOG.85927$Av7.4859@fx34.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.09pm.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rei07k$u0d$1@gioia.aioe.org . Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.43pm.Seattle.2020 Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--6.46pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m201 Mad; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 13 { 8:56am, 2020 }:36^(-5) Yȶʟʜ Non-Smokers are doing worse than me. Sergio wrote: > when I quit [smoking] I could taste foods again, My late father, a non-smoker, had this problem. I, on the other hand, have no problem tasting/smelling all kinds of delicious food. I'm eating better now than I ever have. > I could breath better, I've never had a breathing problem. > felt much healthier, I feel fantastic. My - only - problem is that I can't do much physical work before I need to lie down again. Going to the store, and buying 20 pounds of groceries, and lugging it up the hill, can be over-taxing, if I'm not relaxed and well-rested. > father-in-law got cancer of the throat, My landlord, a non-smoker, got horrific throat cancer; he can't eat solid foods anymore. Occasionally, in the past, my throat got irritated after I turned off my monitor, and tried to sleep -- but it's easily remedied. Drinking lots of water and eating saltine crackers prevents it and, if it happens, hard candy makes me feel good again, so I quickly fall asleep. > just quit. I doubt smoking is causing my symptoms, besides: You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred. -- Woody Allen ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 DFS uQMOG.85927$Av7.4859@fx34.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.12--8.09pm.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m57 Top; 1.4 Minutes, DFS_Access/python_hack, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 12 { 4:15pm, 2020 }:31^(-4) Yȵხμ Old Age. DFS mentioned: > ClearChoice.COM [ dentures ] Are you a customer ? How much is it ? DFS replied ( to me ): > > I'm like an iPhone that can't keep a charge. > > Just going to the store wipes me out. > > What's the medical term for this ? > > it's brought on by heart failure, COPD, > and probably diabetes, due to self-defeating > behavior of smoking and overeating and > lack of exercise. You know this, right ? Besides "old age", I don't know the cause. It could be a tooth infection, obesity, a lack of exercise, and/or something else. I don't have breathing problems. I don't have the circulatory problems that diabetics have -- my toes are pink and sensitive, not rotting off. My favorite exercise, walking, is no longer fun; when not exercising, I feel fine. > I'm a little younger than you. Friday, > I drove 2 hours in the am, then worked > 8 solid hours in the Ga heat, > > moving heavy furniture and clearing > junk from a house. > On my feet, basically,lunar the entire time. > > Then drove 2 hours back. I was beat, > but the next day I was at it again, > working the never-ending to-do list > of stuff around the house and yard. > > I know a man 15 years my senior who > can keep up with me. It's incredible. I've always admired people who could do that; sadly, I'm not one of them. > Drop those cigs immediately > and get your health back. I'm not so sure that that's the solution. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--3.29am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmquf7Fh1ndU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--4.34am.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rea0s6$58b$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.12am.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com reaiat$gi3$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.18pm.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 5 m194 Mad; 28.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 10 { 1:16pm, 2020 }:30^(-5) YȴγМ Balsa wood dentures. Sergio replied ( to me ): > > How much is "1/20" in US dollars ? > > crown about 2000, costs about 300 or less I signed up for MedicAid. Once my card comes in the mail, I'll setup a dental appointment. Washington state might give me free dentures. We'll see. Hopefully, it won't be made of balsa wood. ■ Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmquf7Fh1ndU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--4.34am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 5a2hgf9m1rlred2uu1regh6reccktklkpg@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.53am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 8q7hgf1ua1om8uf6470iosetnmnllrcdh6@4ax.com MrChrisV 9s9hgf5h5cjttslm1nslbd8q5rfud90fbe@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.57am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m17 Dropped; 11.1 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jul 10 { 10:40am, 2020 }:21^(-5) YȴΑГ How cheap, 80 grand ? MrChrisV suggested: > There should be a GoFundMe, for poor, > kooky Relf's teeth. Thanks for the kind notion, but I doubt it'd come to that. I'm trying to price it now, looking for a place that'll do it. I'm wondering if the discount would be based on my income or my savings too. Also, I'm wondering if it's even a good idea. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greghall h13hgf9d2c3528a1tp3tlfk5rdinhc8go0@4ax.com Checkmate│More_Bull_Schiff da6t4m.bsk.17.39@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.48am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m98 Cool; 26.5 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Jul 10 { 10:13am, 2020 }:17^(-7) YȴʬɅ I'm like an iPhone that can't keep a charge. Checkmate replied: > > > I'm like an iPhone that can't keep a charge. > > > Just going to the store wipes me out. > > > What's the medical term for this ? > > > > COVID-19. > > Could be anemia. Maybe, but I feel great even while working, I just can't do it for long, I have to lie down for awhile, then resume. The heavier the physical work, the sooner I have to lie down again. Light work I can do for a couple hours. Carrying 20+ lbs of groceries up a hill it is sometimes hard for me, depending on how well-rested/hydrated I am. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmqt4uFgokuU1@mid.individual.net Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com re9qma$10m2$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.46am.Seattle.2020 Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com rea5mc$hg0$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.34am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m57 Dropped; 27.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Jul 10 { 9:40am, 2020 }:44 YȴʦЪ Maybe I'm just out of shape. Bodkin replied ( to me ): > > The vast majority of my day I'm lying down; > > maybe I'm just out of shape. > > Maybe if you modified your setup to a standing desk > rather than a reclining one. Maybe, but that'd add a lot of misery to my life, net net. Computing in bed, as I do, feels wonderful. A few years ago, I enjoyed exercising, walking; not so anymore. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--3.29am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmquf7Fh1ndU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--4.34am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 5a2hgf9m1rlred2uu1regh6reccktklkpg@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.53am.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rea403$1md2$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.28am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m190 Mad; 56.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 10 { 9:11am, 2020 }:48^(-5) Yȴʡც How cheap, 80 grand ? > > How cheap [ are dentures ], 80 grand ? > > if over 65 you have much cheaper options I'm 4.5 years away from 65. It varies by state, I assume. ■ Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmqt4uFgokuU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--3.29am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmquf7Fh1ndU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--4.34am.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rea0s6$58b$1@gioia.aioe.org Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rea1hf$ami$4@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.21am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 4 m190 Mad; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 10 { 8:29am, 2020 }:51^(-5) Yȴʚჭ I never feel short of breath. Sergio told me: > switch over to chewing tobacco, > you get the nicoteen and let your lungs heal. I never feel short of breath -- never. My heart might be inflamed due to a tooth infection; but I'm not sure. When resting, my blood pressure is fine. Again, it's like I'm running at a 2 % battery level. I feel fine, I just can't do much - physical - work before needing to lie down again. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmqt4uFgokuU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--3.29am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmquf7Fh1ndU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--4.34am.Seattle.2020 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com rea0s6$58b$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--10.12am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 5 m190 Mad; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 10 { 8:18am, 2020 }:30^(-5) YȴʙU How much is "1/20" in US dollars ? Sergio replied ( to me ): > > I should look into what kind of dental programs > > the state as for low income people; with luck, > > I won't have to fully deplete my savings. > > They are out there, look around, > it will cost 1/20 or less, sliding scale. How much is "1/20" in US dollars ? Is the cost based on income, savings, or both ? My local clinic isn't taking new patients. I'm trying other places, no luck so far. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmqt4uFgokuU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--3.29am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall im2hgf1iafh9jvu9m46inh2hvaekcn1alb@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--9.18am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m51 Cool; 10.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 10 { 8:38am, 2020 }:41^(-4) Yȴʜʡ Water and saltine crackers work great. Hømer replied ( to me ): > Fatigue like that, along with some > difficulty getting a good deep breath, > is among the most common of COVID-19 symptoms. Unless my throat gets dry+sticky from sleeping 10 hours without consuming enough water+salt I never feel like I can't breathe. And, when that (rarely) happens, extending the length of my throat, by cocking my chin up, is an immediate fix. After which, I consume water+salt. Water and saltine crackers work great. Also, I have a lot of sandwich crackers. They are cheaper today than they were 30 years ago, -- both in US dollar terms, and gold terms -- delivered right to my door, a few hours after I order. Meanwhile, rent, gold, real estate, stock/bonds, and medical/dental costs have quintupled in price. > bad teeth not only ruin the quality of your life > but they can shorten it considerably. Maybe, it's hard to know for sure. Throughout history, medical science has been more wrong than right. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmqt4uFgokuU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--3.29am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmquf7Fh1ndU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--4.34am.Seattle.2020 Sir_Hømer_Hall_Esq_│greg_hall 5a2hgf9m1rlred2uu1regh6reccktklkpg@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.53am.Seattle.2020 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m51 Cool; 15 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 10 { 8:34am, 2020 }:34^(-4) YȴʛР How cheap, 80 grand ? Hømer suggested: > If your teeth are really, really bad, the cheapest > option would be to have them all yanked out and > get a good set of well made and fitted dentures. How cheap, 80 grand ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--2.09am.Seattle.2020 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ hmqt4uFgokuU1@mid.individual.net Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com re9qma$10m2$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.10--8.46am.Seattle.2020 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m56 Dropped; 1.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Jul 10 { 6:32am, 2020 }:59 YȴʇΔ Maybe I'm just out of shape. Bodkin replied ( to Sylvia ): > > > I'm like an iPhone that can't keep a charge. > > > Just going to the store wipes me out. > > > What's the medical term for this ? > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome, perhaps. > > Maybe if [Jeff] used a standup desk rather than > one that lets him work from a reclining position. The vast majority of my day I'm lying down; maybe I'm just out of shape. I don't have to commute to work; some of my food/shopping is delivered to me. Mental tasks, such as programming, never tire me; I never lose it, mentally. ■ JeffRelf Je