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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.16--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
      We're consumers, like the sun.

We're consumers, like the sun.

Evolution is just entropy as it applies to "living" consumers;
i.e. there's a million ways to do "it" ( consumption, LongTerm )
"wrong", and few ways to do it "right"... sod the Bible.

Carnot's "Fundamental Principles of Equilibrium", 1803, says 
"useful energy" ( a.k.a. "quality energy", a.k.a. "eXergy", 
i.e. energy that can do physical work, force * distance ) dissipates.

Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
now add a little "gravity/eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ),
so it all fits in the head of a pin.

When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
no entropy, infinite eXergy/Gravity/Density... a black hole.

The farther back in time we look, the less we know;
we don't just "approach" zero knowledge, we hit it.

Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death.
Eventually, gravity/eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy/Gravity/Density.

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
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              Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fj7mk1FnuahU1@mid.individual.net
            Scout│me4guns@removethis_this2_  paotr9$cu3$3@dont-email.me
          Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fji2cmF37e9U1@mid.individual.net
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pb2dnr$1ln$2@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  BN4BC.5$IF4.1@fx14.iad
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pb2lrk$gmq$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.16--3.25pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 3  m84 Cool; 4.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 16 { 10:17am, 2018 }:39^(-4)  WϞʬს
      Al Gore fangirl, "kensi", taps out.

Al Gore fangirl, "kensi", taps out with:
> Hitler was a piker compared to present-day conservatives, 
> who regularly fantasize about the "ethnic cleansing" 
> of 1.2 *billion* people.

Tell us why your beloved Norway doesn't fly in Bangladeshis,
to make their lives better.
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pb00ko$5ht$3@gioia.aioe.org
            BenJacoby  beQAC.39935$LO1.24966@fx42.iad
          Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pb0lun$ren$9@dont-email.me
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pb13b0$1oeq$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  Q9XAC.75054$Kz2.52697@fx35.iad
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pb2gim$6g3$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.16--9.09am.Seattle.2018
  Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken
    ╱ 2  m81 Cool; 15.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 16 {  8:47am, 2018 }:34^(-4)  WϞʝნ
      Scratch an Al Gore FanGirl, find a ManHating feminist.

> Scratch a climate change denier, find a misogynist ...

Scratch an Al Gore FanGirl, find a ManHating feminist.

If Norway were so great, as "kensi" claims,
they'd fly in millions of people from Bangladesh.
It's racism, no ?
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pavrl4$1t17$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--4.34pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m81 Cool; 7.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 15 {  8:38am, 2018 }:12^(-4)  WϝТʄ
      It's racism, no ?

> As food and water sources become threatened by changing weather 
> patterns, experts say these are the areas most susceptible to 
> instability and bloodshed:  PSmag.COM  ...

Every guru sells an "end of the world" scenario to his exhausted followers.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--4.15pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Due to Entropy and Evolution, there are far more losers than winners.

Due to Entropy and Evolution, there are far more losers than winners.
Drunk, cat calling, prostitute buying, ugly, horney old men
are the losers... have pity on them.  Less kids == Less consumption. 
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--0.20am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  a7c47edb-c083-43bc-a983-b903438d6ad4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--6.30am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m27 Top; 6.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 5.135.158.101,  Apr 15 {  6:14am, 2018 }:41^(PDT)  WϝϺʡ
      My feet and crotch are dry.

> > Our body temperature is too hot for most fungi;
> > it's part of our immune system.
> 
> Athlete's foot, yeast infections.

I have neither because my feet and crotch are dry.
99 degrees F helps, but it's not perfect.
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      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5AD2A268.4596@ix.netcom.com
    Whisper│beaver999@ozemail_com  jaCdnf75ichYmE7HnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--0.59am.Seattle.2018
  Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy
    ╱ 1  m3 Cool; 54 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Westnet.COM.AU, 124.168.24.177,  Apr 15 {   :56am, 2018 }:54^(10)  WϝΩʮ
      We're consumers, like the sun.

> > Here is a question that has never been asked by anyone...
> >            What Are We?

We're consumers, like the sun.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.15--0.20am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      To win, others must lose.

Our body temperature is too hot for most fungi;
it's part of our immune system.

Fungi breathe in oxygen and expire carbon dioxide, like us;
when sugar is around, they stop, like a sprinter,
and produce alcohol, to kill off the competition.

Most drugs are like this:  They kill off competitors.
To win, others must lose.

Likewise, when a man desires a mate, he uses religion, 
politics, or some other (dangerous) "opiate".
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              FabianRussell  paiku402uik@news7.newsguy.com
            Owl  sa0b803g.aho93@rooftop.invalid
          FabianRussell  pakkh202pf6@news4.newsguy.com
        Owl  9a0b80tr.ahu34@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.11--0.09pm.Seattle.2018
    BranimirMaksimovic  SitzC.428549$qo7.321660@fx04.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.14--7.58am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Comp.Lang.C++
    +-, 2.7 Days, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Apr 11 {   :25pm, 2018 }:38  Wϛɀɢ
      365 Million L3 Misses.

BranimirMaksimovic replied:
> for( i = 0; i < _16k; ++i ) for( j = 0; j < _16k; ++j ) mat[ j*_16k + i ] = 42 ;
> Loop1:  3.659 Seconds     5  Million L3 Misses
> Loop2:   .327 Seconds

  Loop1:  2.485 Seconds   365  Million L3 Misses  ( 430 - 65 )
  Loop2:   .080 Seconds

I've no way of knowing L4 misses; my L4 is 128 MegaBytes.

I had to compile GitHub's "Performance Counter Monitor"
as I couldn't find "PCM.EXE", Googling.
WinRing0x64.DLL/.SYS had to be downloaded, as they must be signed.

I sample for 11 seconds because it takes me at least 5 seconds
to (manually) start the Loop1 test;  65 Million Misses is normal
for this amount of time ( 11 seconds, 430 - 65  = 365 ).

    PCM  11 -i=1 -ns -nsys -nc

A ReSet ( -r ) might be required, if there's a conflict.
I ran it -many- times, to be sure that I got the right averages.

To compile it, I had to add a "#include" and
change some compiler/linker switches.  Also:

    Visual Studio -> Solution Explorer -> RightClick Solution
    -> ReTarget Solution -> to pick a "Windows SDK".

    Put my "Include", "Lib" paths in my "Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.user.props.TXT";
    Copied it too "%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\MSBuild\v4.0\";
    Removed the ".TXT" extension and ReSarted Visual Studio;
    so the CodeEditor knows where my Includes are.

    Also, I put them in:  Solution Explorer -> Select all projects
      -> Settings -> Configuration Properties -> VC++ Directories.

Jeff-Relf.Me/Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.user.props.TXT
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    rick_c_hodgin@gmail_com  a5b560ba-41b9-40e1-a4cb-664a1e10748e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.13--6.18pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 8.3 Hours, GoogleG, 12.18.147.98,  Apr 13 {  9:26am, 2018 }:36^(PDT)  WϜʤʜ
      Our flooder simply loves artificial intelligence, that's all.

> Does anyone have any information regarding the real individual
> behind these spam posts by "Steven Petruzzellis" (and other names)?
> 
> In recent weeks on comp.lang.c he has begun including references
> to making bombs and pipe bombs in his URLs

Our flooder simply loves artificial intelligence, that's all.
He's been around for 14 years or so; I may have met him, in person.
He knows me, that's for sure.
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        HerbertGlazier  04941ee4-b623-481b-a180-bfadd8ade3c7@googlegroups.com
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pal1g9$tpm$1@gioia.aioe.org
    MrAA  a720e0ea-5130-478a-bb28-3779002bbd37@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.12--5.19pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Astronomy
    ╱ 3  m30 Top; 1.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Apr 12 {  2:28pm, 2018 }:10^(PDT)  Wϛნϸ
      Mr. A. A.

Mr. A. A. replied:
> > Facebook is selling your infomatation to others, Bert.
> 
> MY IP address changes every time I log on.  
> And my IP is in Portland.  I am not!

You're a 70 year old male who lives in Gresham OR, 
near where you were born and raised.
You lived in a hotel, in Aloha OR, for a year.

You like gold and guns but don't hunt anymore.
You like Kim Kimchi, well fermented, and malt liquor.

You were a BigIron COBOL programmer, working on billing systems.
You had a Korean wife and a wine shop, back in the day.

You worked hard, most of your life but, now,
you owe too much.  You still like/want money and woman.

For years, you lived in your car, then in SafeWay, 
Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, Portland libraries, and a storage shed.

You had serious colon problems, at one point.
Your feet were always wet.
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            FabianRussell  padcgh03u@news4.newsguy.com
          FabianRussell  paiku402uik@news7.newsguy.com
        Owl  sa0b803g.aho93@rooftop.invalid
      FabianRussell  pakkh202pf6@news4.newsguy.com
    Owl  9a0b80tr.ahu34@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.11--0.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m87 Cool; 4.6 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Apr 11 {  5:21am, 2018 }:56  Wϛ3Ϝ
      A page fault can cost ONE MILLION CLOCK CYCLES.

> My guess is that the option predates L3 cache and refers
> to highest level cache, whatever it might be called.  
> 
> Some CPUs have l4 cache now, and in that case the l2 param
> might refer to l4.

My CPU, the i7-5775c, has a 128 MegaByte L-4 cache, 
a.k.a. "Crystal Well" ( 1.8 GigaHz eDRAM ).

Fabian got ( pa92ch01sun@news1.newsguy.com ):

  Loop 1: 3.01377 seconds
  Loop 2:  .11461 seconds

I get:

  Loop 1: 2.434 seconds      
  Loop 2:  .089 seconds   ( 2.434 / .089 =  27 )

Owl got ( 9a0b773q.u9b@rooftop.invalid ):

  Loop 1: 4.64766 seconds  Minor page faults: 262,211
  Loop 2:  .32333 seconds  Minor page faults: 262,215  [ Why more ? ]

Quoting "Docs.MicroSoft.COM/en-us/cpp/build/reference/Tips-for-Improving-Time-Critical-Code"

  A CPU cache hit can cost your program 10 to 20 clock cycles. 
  An external cache hit can cost 20 to 40 clock cycles.
  A page fault can cost ONE MILLION CLOCK CYCLES. 
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              JohnSefton  6ee8a235-873d-4b62-8a9a-53c3f7c96f26@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  pag89u$11he$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  c045ff37-855d-48cb-8234-f7f534f71451@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  paibrn$h0c$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  c5b77a09-b23b-4208-9c5b-de01a0ea289f@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  paimts$17qe$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.10--9.49am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m101 Cool; 5.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 10 {  8:57am, 2018 }:48  WϚʟϓ
      All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us...

> > The Universe is Eternal.

Yes, the four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal;
at once nothing -and- everything.

> Where’s the EVIDENCE of that?

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:

    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

> Evidence points in the other direction, that at a finite time in the past,
> everything was much, much, much closer together than today — so much so
> that it was clearly much different looking than today.  No galaxies, no
> atoms, extremely hot. 

Yes, the farther back in time we look, the less we know;
we don't just "approach" zero knowledge, we hit it.

Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
now add a little "gravity/eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ),
so it all fits in the head of a pin.

When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
no entropy, infinite eXergy/Gravity/Density... a black hole.

Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death.
Eventually, gravity/eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy/Gravity/Density.
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              JohnSefton  566a7304-e853-4124-b708-703339fec718@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  pafhs6$1le1$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  6ee8a235-873d-4b62-8a9a-53c3f7c96f26@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  pag89u$11he$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  c045ff37-855d-48cb-8234-f7f534f71451@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  paibrn$h0c$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.10--8.52am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 3  m98 Cool; 2.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Aioe.ORG,  Apr 10 {  5:48am, 2018 }:56^(-5)  WϚʀu
      Go back far enough, and the -known- Universe is zip, zero, nada.

The -known- Universe is finite.
Go back far enough, and the -known- Universe is zip, zero, nada.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--11.15pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Nice guitar: "Delusions" by Sophie Lloyd.

Nice guitar: "Delusions" by Sophie Lloyd:

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=i7hc8iCtJfg
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              Keith_Stein│keithstein111  zHtyC.354924$3o5.167196@fx20.am4
            Tom_Roberts│tjroberts137  2YadnVKLRe-t5lbHnZ2dnUU7_81i4p2d@giganews.com
          Keith_Stein│keithstein111  riLyC.860939$Ml.54730@fx24.am4
        Libor_Striz│poutnik4REMOVEnntp  pag3kt$25d$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--10.45am.Seattle.2018
    J_Clarke│jclarke_873638@gmail_  vpbocd5n4l6fmk08a3k9pftje1sqgenmk2@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--8.49pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy
    ╱ 1  m3 Cool; 9.1 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newsdemon.COM,  Apr  9 {  8:28pm, 2018 }:37^(-4)  WϚYУ
      GPS satellites.

> > GPS satellites are the perfect way to explain relativity,
> > because everyone can relate to it.
> > 
> > On Earth, the satellite's signal is BlueShifted by gravity
> > and RedShifted by its velocity, relative to earth's core.
> 
> While that is true, the relativistic correction in GPS satellites
> is in the timebase, not the transmission frequency.

Relativity is used to adjust the frequency of the orbiting clocks;
c, the speed of light, is a known constant;
so time and distance are easily derived.
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              Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fivbn0Frk6mU1@mid.individual.net
            Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  2718935.687JKscXgg@PointedEars.de
          Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fivoigFu9dpU1@mid.individual.net
        Lofty_Goat│rlwatkins@gmail_com  0belcd13hc6v6lvkl0huju5ddvvk8a1crc@4ax.com
      Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fivukjFspdU1@mid.individual.net
    Lofty_Goat│rlwatkins@gmail_com  3r3ocdlc8mgttq6k4te1m185mko6gies9t@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--7.54pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m26 Cool; 35.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Giganews.COM,  Apr  9 {  7: 8pm, 2018 }:59^(-5)  WϚLΔ
      Ben Jacoby is neither funny nor informative, nothing good.

> I've been reading science newsgroups for... what?  Twenty years maybe,
> twenty-five years for the computer science groups, something like that.
> This one for maybe sixteen or seventeen.

I wrote my first newsreader in 1991, Seattle, 27 years ago.

> Sooner or later one sorts out the trolls from the crackpots.
> 
> However careful they are, now and then the trolls slip up
> and exhibit at least a scintilla of lucidity.
> The crackpots never do.

Ben Jacoby is neither funny nor informative, nothing good.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--5.03pm.Seattle.2018
          BenJacoby  NPfxC.216119$Rp1.169449@fx37.iad
        MichaelMoroney  pa44j0$pk0$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--0.51am.Seattle.2018
    Steve_BH│sbharris@gmail_com  45d656dd-5bcb-4dc9-a2b2-efc9d5005f4b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--4.06pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m30 Cool; 4 Secs, GoogleG, 66.214.180.178,  Apr  9 {  3:13pm, 2018 }:45^(PDT)  Wϙფɩ
      Big, stretched out girls need girth, not length.

> > > > > One girl said she liked my "Statue of David" dick
> > > > > ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Statue.of.David.JPG ).
> 
> Statue-of-David-Dick is actually a high-class insult.
> You missed it.

I met her at a bar, when she first turned 21, 1989.
We lived together in a fancy apartment, on Queen Anne,
up the hill from the Pier 86 Grain Complex, Elliott Bay.

She was a culinary student, working for a fancy restaurant,
downtown Seattle, near Market Place; I ate good then.

At the time, I was ultra buff, low fat... like David.
She mentioned the statue --- not the dick --
with _great_ enthusiasm; she wasn't joking.

Her girl friends said I was too good looking.
I cheated on her; I was in high demand, then.

Men care about length, and women humor them;
in reality, they want normal dicks, like mine;
big, stretched out girls need girth, not length.
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              Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fitslhFh29bU1@mid.individual.net
            BenJacoby  kgryC.2580$4W2.1651@fx25.iad
          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  padg0d$btg$1@gioia.aioe.org
        BenJacoby  umByC.16773$FZ2.13868@fx33.iad
      Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fj07d3F2iaaU1@mid.individual.net
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pag2vf$mou$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--10.54am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m339 Mad; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  9 {  9: 5am, 2018 }: 2^(-5)  WϙЦм
      Air causes cancer.

> > **Again: Tobacco does not "cause cancer". 
> 
> wrong.  Tobacco companies were sued 
> and lost because tobacco causes cancer.

Air causes cancer; breathe too much of it, and you're dead.

Cocaine caused the AIDS epidemic, I think;
cocaine and coffee wear down the immune system.

For liability reasons, doctors _must_ treat cancer,
even when they know that the cancer might be dormant,
depending on the immune system.
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            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5AC2995B.649C@ix.netcom.com
          Keith_Stein│keithstein111  zHtyC.354924$3o5.167196@fx20.am4
        Tom_Roberts│tjroberts137  2YadnVKLRe-t5lbHnZ2dnUU7_81i4p2d@giganews.com
      Keith_Stein│keithstein111  riLyC.860939$Ml.54730@fx24.am4
    Libor_Striz│poutnik4REMOVEnntp  pag3kt$25d$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--10.45am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy
    ╱ 1  m48 Cool; 54.8 Minutes, PiaoHong_Usenet_Client_Fr, Eternal-September.ORG,  Apr  9 {  9:16am, 2018 }:29^(GMT+02:00)  WϙШЛ
      GPS satellites.

> common sense.

GPS satellites are the perfect way to explain relativity,
because everyone can relate to it.

On Earth, the satellite's signal is BlueShifted by gravity
and RedShifted by its velocity, relative to earth's core.
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              .  MPG.3530a1b1575ab4ad993592@news.altopia.com
            .  jnvfcdhkachdplk2m4cb5kvabkg06oh578@4ax.com
          .  MPG.3532b0177f5e49e99362b@news.altopia.com
        .  tbdkcdlih0hkpdh27ick3napcr7ioiknl6@4ax.com
      .  MPG.35341b03d375eefb99363e@news.altopia.com
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  9k4ncdp43efod7d0vu9q694m5c9atl5gqe@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--10.41am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Soc.Women, Alt.Sixtyplus, Soc.Men, Alt.Usenet.Kooks
    ╱ 1  m40 Cool; 26.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Apr  9 {  9:44am, 2018 }:53^(-4)  WϙЭʭ
      Do you like it when she honks " Hee... Haw.. " ? !

Speaking of Hillary and/or a donkey, Gregory Hall wrote:
> spank her comely bottom red and 
> give her just what she asked for.

Do you like it when she honks " Hee... Haw.. " ? !

  U.S. tax records show that 50% of adults were married in 2015,
  down from 72% in 1960.  Today: - Men won't be cash machines.
  - Women won't humor InLaws. and - NoseyNancy MatchMakers are scorned.

  Marriage is a bad bet, here in the U.S.;
  still, there's no shortage of "gamblers"
  who'd destroy themselves and others because 
  they "enjoy the ride" -- math isn't their friend.

  "The house" ( the government ) always wins;
  so they promote it ( babies, gambling ).
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              Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  paalpb$1hb4$1@gioia.aioe.org
            BenJacoby  BG5yC.7216$K%2.2014@fx38.iad
          Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fitslhFh29bU1@mid.individual.net
        BenJacoby  kgryC.2580$4W2.1651@fx25.iad
      Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fivbn0Frk6mU1@mid.individual.net
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pafumk$do3$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--10.04am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m96 Cool; 1.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  9 {  7:52am, 2018 }: 3^(-4)  WϙКϱ
      In some Turkish bazar, somewhere...

> [ Trumpettes don't think for themselves ]

In some Turkish bazar, somewhere:

    kensi:    Disarm everyone.
    Trump:    Arm everyone.

    kensi:    Nationalize everything.
    Trump:    Privatize.

    kensi:    You're nuts.
    Trump:    Read "Art of the Deal".

    kensi:    Repent, the end is near.
    Trump:    Now you're talking, Padawan.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--8.24pm.Seattle.2018
    %│persent@gmail_com  b68o7g.4mj.17.3@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--8.50pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    -Dropped, 8.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Apr  7 {  8:35pm, 2018 }:41^(-7)  WϘСუ
      Welfare is a luxury only the rich can afford.

Mr. persent can't think for himself, so he replied:
> > Welfare is a luxury only the rich can afford;
> > slowly, China is approaching AmericanStyle welfare.
> 
> so

If you're going to be poor, old and/or disabled,
better do it in America, not China ( or Bangladesh ).
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  paakrs$1fn6$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  paalpb$1hb4$1@gioia.aioe.org
          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  paanpq$1k7a$4@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--0.05pm.Seattle.2018
      Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_  chine.bleu-CE669E.17512907042018@reader.eternal-september.org
    %│persent@gmail_com  b68gkj.ksn.19.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--8.40pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    -Dropped, 2.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Apr  7 {  6:26pm, 2018 }: 9^(-7)  WϘϼʁ
      " Repent, The End is Near, I personally guarantee it ! " -- K.   Kensington.

Mr. "persent" and "Siri Cruise" wrote:
> [ Jeff Relf is Fabian Russell ]

I'll add "paranoid schizophrenia" to your list of disablities.
Recently, I told Fabian:

  Bezos is too rich from his stupid, GirlyBoy website to care
  about your private "distro" that's ( assembly language ) optimized 
  for your (MachoMan) PDP-11.
  
  Also, he doesn't care enough to write apps for your Androids, 
  iPhones, Macs, iPads, ChromeBooks, Kindles, and Windows boxen.
  Remember when everyone thought Bill Gates had a monopoly ? !
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--8.24pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Welfare is a luxury only the rich can afford.

Welfare is a luxury only the rich can afford;
slowly, China is approaching AmericanStyle welfare.

In Utah (U.S.A.), my High Schooling was free,
though my family was middle class -- not so in China.

Currently, I get 192$/month in "food stamps" (SNAP) which
can be used to buy most any food, anywhere, including IceCream,
fresh meat/fruit/milk, and frozen "pies" ( Sweet & Salty ).

China has _never_ seen anything like this, above;
free rice and soy sauce, back in the 1970's, doesn't compare.

Outside of the city, old|disabled people get 70 Yuan/month;
inside, they get about 450/month; 
former government employees get around 1,200/month (190$).

27 MegaBitPerSecond down, 6 up, no data limit, internet
is free with rent.  In "my" Seattle, old|disabled people
get (nearly) free housing; "SeattleHousing.ORG" says:

  Applicants who are at least 62, income eligible 
  and reside within the city of Seattle
  receive the highest preference points for SSHP waiting lists.

     University District:  1 to 2 years
     Green Lake:           1 to 2 years
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              BranimirMaksimovic  LkWxC.357630$kF1.190601@fx41.am4
            FabianRussell  pa9c4d1p6c@news2.newsguy.com
          SteveCarroll  8986361a-ecef-41ed-8de2-9440f31d698e@googlegroups.com
        Owl  9a08b7903.ahu@rooftop.invalid
      SteveCarroll  70d60f76-3733-4d49-9b95-22ab0e92a92e@googlegroups.com
    Owl  sz9b803ta.nguo3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--0.26pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m81 Cool; 1.1 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Apr  7 { 11:  am, 2018 }:38  WϘΕc
      GigaByte arrays.

> > > > out of bounds
> > 
> > "jumps beyond cache bounds" - Feeb
> 
> "Out of bounds" usually means outside the bounds of an array
> or the bounds of allocated memory.

Loop2 has extra "Page Faults"; the Memory Management Unit
(MMU) resets the virtual address space more often.

I doubt JavaScript has to worry about "this" ( GigaByte arrays ).
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  paakrs$1fn6$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  paalpb$1hb4$1@gioia.aioe.org
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  paanpq$1k7a$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--0.05pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m93 Cool; 3.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  7 {  8:23am, 2018 }:36^(-4)  WϘʙპ
      " Repent, The End is Near, I personally guarantee it ! " -- K. Kensington.

Kensi replied:
> > > GlobalNews.CA/news/4127757/shell-Climate-Change-Report-1988/
> > 
> > <yawn>   it has been in elementary school textbooks since 1960's
> 
> And yet, still you refuse to believe.

Kensi is following "The Cult Leader's Handbook", by David Koresh;
" Repent, The End is Near, I personally guarantee it ! ".
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              SteveCarroll  adcc28c3-bcaf-47e5-8c83-4711855dcd11@googlegroups.com
            Owl  9a0b793a.bnua3@rooftop.invalid
          SteveCarroll  ad50355a-b0bc-4af3-9fa2-55bc7be0d247@googlegroups.com
        FabianRussell  pa7fsa0ock@news4.newsguy.com
      SteveCarroll  83d91e79-9416-401b-a586-55b8277ed03a@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  b98cfd81-a808-4a52-8635-04e4fe3b8852@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--10.12am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m173 Mad; 5.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  6 {  8:56am, 2018 }: 5^(PDT)  WϗХɽ
      C/C++ == steak and potatoes.

> The March 2018 Tiobe [ hit count ]:
> 
>   19%  C/C++  [ steak and potatoes ]
>   15%  Java   [ hamberger ]

Fabian Russell is a "food" snob;
both are nice, if you can afford it.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--5.03pm.Seattle.2018
      BenJacoby  NPfxC.216119$Rp1.169449@fx37.iad
    MichaelMoroney  pa44j0$pk0$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--0.51am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    -Dropped, 4.2 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Apr  4 {  8:18pm, 2018 }:56  WϖПu
      Simply The Best.

> > > One girl said she liked my "Statue of David" dick
> > > ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Statue.of.David.JPG ).
> > > 
> > > Another made flying motions, with her hand,
> > > saying my dick was like "SuperMan" -- Motion matters.
> 
> Rolf sounds exactly like a (virgin) teenaged boy, trying to sound cool to
> his friends, or maybe deliberately said within earshot of the girl he
> wants to impress but he winds up grossing her out instead.

No, it was like this, I swear ( 86 Megs ):

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Simply.The.Best--Schitts.Creek.s04e09.MP4
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--5.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Dicks.

  Guys care about length, not gerth,
  because they're selfish and SelfCentered.

  One girl said she liked my "Statue of David" dick
  ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Statue.of.David.JPG ).

  Another made flying motions, with her hand,
  saying my dick was like "SuperMan" -- Motion matters.

  "WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Human_penis_size#Erect" says:

    An Italian study of about 3,300 men published in 
    European Urology concluded that flaccid stretched 
    length was measured on average to about 12.5 cm ( 4.9 inches ).  

    An Indian study of 500 men ages 18 to 60 published in 
    the International Journal of Impotence Research found:

       8.21 cm Flaccid   -- I'm  6.4 cm, like the statue of David.
      10.88 cm Stretched -- I'm 12.7 cm, 5 inches.
      13.01 cm Erect.

  P.S. I like _Natural_ boobs ( and faces ), YoYo or Pert:
    Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYos.JPG
    Jeff-Relf.Me/Pert.JPG
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.53am.Seattle.2018
            BenJacoby  6KPwC.152911$mD2.119568@fx33.iad
          HerbertGlazier  bb448081-756d-4f07-a03d-2fed5675d40d@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  a4f3cd29-4b1f-48f0-8068-40c9612dace2@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  kJSwC.118278$FL3.112856@fx08.iad
    MrAA  2c59c6cf-88b8-471b-b617-082d5f046626@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--4.31pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m35 Top; 56.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Apr  3 {  3:20pm, 2018 }: 8^(PDT)  Wϕქʀ
      ASUS ROG AC5300 Router, Quad Core CPU, 8 LAN Ports.

> > the routers all had about 15 antennas on them 
> > (I didn't want wifi) and cost like $300 each!
> 
> I'm surprised they didn't send you to the power tool department.
> Router (WoodWorking)

At a Walmart store, I had to look a _long_ time before I found
anyone who knew something, and could speak English;
it was a 80 year old man.   Their WebSite is just as bad.

I just bought the ASUS ROG AC5300 Router, Quad Core CPU,
8 MU-MIMO antennas, and 8 LAN Ports; 425$, after 10% tax, Amazon;
16,573 customer reviews, 1,000+ answered questions. 
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    Owl  f9a0b803.ubq@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.53am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m69 Cool; 30.2 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Apr  3 {  7:32am, 2018 }:18  WϕЗʊ
      WalMart can't compete, its customers aren't as literate.

> Had a package that was supposed to arrive today.  Got notice that it's been
> delayed because it was shipped to an incorrect facility.  That facility
> is 52 minutes from my house.  New ETA on the package:  1 week from today. 

Last Friday, I discovered that someone had chopped up 
the heating element in one of the big ovens.
Crazy shit happens here, in my rooming house... .

So I went on Amazon, found a replacement part, easily;
they're _really_ good at giving me the right options,
even when I can't properly spell it out ( no model # ).

Plenty of high quality comments confirmed my choice;
WalMart can't compete, its customers aren't as literate.
Google can't compete.

I paid 15$ after 10% tax, free shipping, Pennsylvania to Seattle;
it arrived yesterday, Monday, over the weekend, sans "Prime";
it works great ! !

Google, MicroSoft and Apple are sitting on a mountain of cash;
they don't know where to spend it; Amazon has no such problems.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9vk0k$1aq9$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.14am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m90 Cool; 2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  3 {  3:11am, 2018 }:30^(-4)  Wϕφი
      Change is a bitch.

Our Glorious Leader, "kensi", wrote:
> responding to climate change

Change is a bitch, and so are you; lay off the caffeine.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--0.11am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen and North Korea.

Some people ( e.g. Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen and North Korea )
are _really_ into the stone age aesthetic, 
where one "breeds, lives and dies" like an insect.

U.S. tax records show that 50% of adults were married in 2015,
down from 72% in 1960.  Today: - Men won't be cash machines.
- Women won't humor InLaws. and - NoseyNancy MatchMakers are scorned.

Marriage is a bad bet, here in the U.S.;
still, there's no shortage of "gamblers"
who'd destroy themselves and others because 
they "enjoy the ride" -- math isn't their friend.

"The house" ( the government ) always wins;
so they promote it ( babies, gambling ).
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.10pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Japan, Today.

In Japan, Today:
 
  - Men won't be cash machines.
  - Women won't humor InLaws.  and
  - NoseyNanny MatchMakers are scorned.

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=6CDY5YYTRlw
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              FabianRussell  c0af58ca-6d13-4e02-8492-7a667108625f@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  a4342782-c5dc-42a6-bc01-dc9c339bfb5f@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  feb4d236-1674-4a9a-9ba1-23d08d690039@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  417b7a9d-cb91-4dae-825a-62896ab0b529@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  40c676e0-c7c3-445e-a677-dafcb2e08b49@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  e5581b2c-de1b-4a03-9442-e6ea9d895198@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--11.29am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m155 Mad; 31.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  2 { 10:39am, 2018 }:55^(PDT)  Wϕuϛ
      WikiPedia's "Math" options, MathML.

> > This information must be usable for all time, 
> > and MathJax cannot guarantee that.
> 
> LOL! MJ was (is?) the only thing that guarantees it,
> especially at the time this site was built.

WikiPedia's "Math" options are:

  - PNG images  [ Does -Not- work on a Black BackGound ! ].
  - LaTeX source ( TextOnly ).
  - MathML, with SVG or PNG fallback ( recommended for 
      modern browsers and accessibility tools ).

> > Fortunately, that incompetent asshole provides a "Printable"
> > page option and those files WILL be usable for all time.
> 
> Yeah... have fun with those.

What's wrong with the "Save/Print To a .PDF File" option ?
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--10.08pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Grace VanderWaal has a new video, John Gohde.

Grace VanderWaal has a new video, John Gohde.

"I can see clearly now":

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=ZcCp7488puc
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9np1d$10it$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  CYPvC.23363$GJ4.14645@fx20.iad
    Trevor_Wilson│trevor  fiae3dF62n7U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--3.15pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m9 Cool; 11.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Mar 31 {  2:49pm, 2018 }:30^(10)  Wϒრɚ
      " Save the mosquitoes, not people ! " -- libs.

> > you libs murdered African children by banning DDT

" Save the mosquitoes, not people ! " -- libs.
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      Peter_Lavington│peterlavington  46982a50-721b-4e65-8864-7380af707feb@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  2d8fd578-03a5-406f-9ea6-06e407889d04@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--3.08pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m27 Top; 25.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 31 {  2:35pm, 2018 }:14^(PDT)  Wϒოш
      At the horizon ( sunrise, sunset ) the sun reddish.

> If the Sun looks yellow to you, 
> maybe you should have your eyes checked!

Every child knows the sun is yellow.
At the horizon ( sunrise, sunset ) it's reddish.

Blue light scatters; 
so the more atmosphere between you and the sun,
the less blue and the more red... blood red, sometimes.
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    FabianRussell  p9o3jh0105b@news4.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--10.02am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 3 Hours, Pan, Newsguy.COM➤NewsGuy.COM, Newsdawg.COM,  Mar 31 {  6:48am, 2018 }:33  WϒАX
      Print to a .PDF file.

> Technical Help Needed Urgently -- MathJax
> I just downloaded this website for off-line viewing:
> http://inperc.com/wiki/index.php?title=Topology_Illustrated
> 
> If I can't fix it then how can I convert the pages to
> some other format?  Html to Latex?

Print to a .PDF file.

> Why can't these idiot web developers use STANDARD STUFF
> like MathML?  These goddamned idiots should be shot!

Beggars can't be choosers; you get what you get.
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            HughHuntzinger  12c9d248-6fac-4106-b45f-9faf6a152697@googlegroups.com
          MrChrisV  si9sbdpcb7gsmo7tf6q47j0comlqlba20g@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  e1976ac0-ba60-4e6f-a118-11b46833f9e5@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--9.18am.Seattle.2018
    HughHuntzinger  e6ea8000-ead0-4f0b-879a-0230ff440754@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 2  m14 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Mar 30 {  9:59am, 2018 }:12^(PDT)  Wϒnц
      Google stole Oracle's Java and, with it, MicroSoft's "monopoly".

Google stole Oracle's Java and, with it, MicroSoft's "monopoly".

When Google finds a torrent, it's a (protected) public service;
when ThePirateBay does it, the operators get tossed in jail 
and stripped of their (meager) assets, present and future.
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        HughHuntzinger  12c9d248-6fac-4106-b45f-9faf6a152697@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  si9sbdpcb7gsmo7tf6q47j0comlqlba20g@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  e1976ac0-ba60-4e6f-a118-11b46833f9e5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--9.18am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 1  m10 Top; 26.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Mar 30 {  6:25am, 2018 }:30^(PDT)  WϒEɚ
      The wheels of justice turn slowly.

> Google very deliberately and knowingly decided to take
> another persons' IP [Java] for their own commercial gain, 
> and has been resisting now for eight (8) years to
> be held accountable for their business decisions.

The wheels of justice turn slowly.

Quoting "AppleInsider.COM", Aug 2011:

  A finding that Google willfully infringed upon Java 
  would also enable Oracle to demand triple its actual damages.

  Such a ruling could also help establish that 
  Google has a history of willful infringement 
  of rival companies' intellectual property, 

  a finding that would make it easier for others, 
  including Apple and Microsoft, to seek damages 
  from Google and, potentially, its Android licensees.  

Android/WebTV CoFounder, Andy Rubin, had this response (2 days ago):

  ...waiting for someone to copyright sin(x) and cos(a+b)
  and charge people for trinagles and circles. 

By the way, he's the one who ReFashioned GoogleGroups,
to make it more like WebTV ( no CrossPosting, minimal indexing ).
In his youth, he ran a BBS and people called him "Android".
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              .  5ABB3ABF.70A7@ix.netcom.com
            .  p9g2s8$88j$1@dont-email.me
          .  p9jdlk$210$2@gioia.aioe.org
        .  p9jecg$abn$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.09pm.Seattle.2018
    BenJacoby  TpdvC.163219$Rp1.39167@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--4.10pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity
    ╱ 1  m6 Dropped; 59.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds,  Mar 29 {  3: 4pm, 2018 }:34^(-4)  WϑυР
      Most everything at WikiPedia is -WELL SOURCED-.

> Wikipedia is really the ultimate authority on all science, Rolf. 

If you could contribute to WikiPedia, as I do,
you'd know that most everything there is -WELL SOURCED-;
it's a God Damn Miracle !
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          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5ABB3ABF.70A7@ix.netcom.com
        Libor_Striz│poutnik4REMOVEnntp  p9g2s8$88j$1@dont-email.me
      Will_Bos│sllu@wsws_sb  p9jdlk$210$2@gioia.aioe.org
    Libor_Striz│poutnik4REMOVEnntp  p9jecg$abn$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics.Relativity
    ╱ 2  m40 Cool; 39.1 Minutes, PiaoHong_Usenet_Client_Fr, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 29 {   :21pm, 2018 }:51^(GMT+02:00)  WϑΣϗ
      The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

The British use the word "dark" when they mean "unseen";
e.g.: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen because
we're sitting in a brightly lit "room" with pitch black "windows",
and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.

Quoting WikiPedia: ＜＜

  The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded 
  in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter. 

  The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
  It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter ＞＞
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              Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p9i0i2$ng4$4@dont-email.me
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9iq5a$115g$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.18am.Seattle.2018
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9j4i2$1m67$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--10.03am.Seattle.2018
    BenJacoby  a9avC.98368$vs1.95683@fx44.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--0.46pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m283 Dropped; 58.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds,  Mar 29 { 11:21am, 2018 }:57^(-4)  WϑΘϝ
      Thunderbird is wonderful -if- you know how to configure it.

> > No, Usenet is -Well- supported here, on my Win10 box.
> 
> No it isn't. You have to run something else, 
> like Thunderbird, to access, like I do.

Many years have pasted since I last launched ThunderBird.
I recommend it to others, because they can't use what I do,
"Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP".

> Thunderbird sucks. Part of the conspiracy to trash USENET I think.

Thunderbird is wonderful -if- you know how to configure it;
it's hard to do ( and do well ).
I know how, of course, even though I don't use it.

> > > I don't post to Rec.Food.Cooking, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken,
> > 
> > Yes, you do, when you CrossPost.
> 
> True and I usually never change crossposts. 
> Although some trolls will set reply into some dumpster
> and you have to watch for that.

My newsreader automatically ignores ReDirects.

> >    "OpenNews" is cost free ( News5, News2 and News6 are best ).
> >    Register at:  Open-News-Network.ORG/register
> >                  Must translate from German; if Captcha fails, F5 refresh.
> >    
> >    News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119  or  usNews.BlockNews.NET:119
> >    
> >    They won't censor you; they don't even keep the "Path:" line,
> >    so you can't be identified.  Their archive is over 15 years deep.
> >    $5 buys you 11 gigs, enough for several life times.
> 
> Good Stuff, Rolf!

Thanks.
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              Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9gl36$1ip0$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p9i0i2$ng4$4@dont-email.me
          Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9iq5a$115g$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.18am.Seattle.2018
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9j4i2$1m67$1@gioia.aioe.org
    BenJacoby  fW9vC.95739$mD2.28959@fx33.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--0.30pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m283 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds,  Mar 29 { 11: 6am, 2018 }: 2^(-4)  WϑΖ2
      Seeing your stuff doesn't mean I care about it.

> Relf has me "plonked" as not worth reading. His loss. He's still an idiot.

I see your replies to me, Ben Jacoby, 5 levels deep;
and I see others quoting you; otherwise, I don't.
Seeing your stuff doesn't mean I care about it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.45am.Seattle.2018
            Owl  gi0z8b083.ahou3@rooftop.invalid
          FabianRussell  p9j90l023ct@news4.newsguy.com
        Owl  9a0b803a.gh3uo@rooftop.invalid
      FabianRussell  p9jbhb024a8@news4.newsguy.com
    Owl  slzb98b083.ahuo3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--0.13pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m63 Cool; 3.6 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 { 11:56am, 2018 }:57  WϑΞΒ
      MIME is better because it works for both emails and Usenet Posts.

> > makemime -c png -e base64 file.png
> > makemime -m "multipart/mixed" -e 7bit file.png.enc > file.png.enc.txt
> > makemime -j "file.txt" file.png.enc.txt > message.txt
> > 
> > But after using newspost to post the message.txt file, pan will
> > not decode the attachment.
> > I need to figure out what I am missing.
> 
> You don't need MIME.

MIME is better because it works for both emails and Usenet Posts.

Fabian needs Pan to include something like the following
in the header of his posts:

  Content-Type: multipart/mixed;       boundary="----voicemail_1983720"
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-=Part.7e5e09a.da60=-"
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A8A42E74-A22"

Does he even know what a "boundary" is ?
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              Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9dl1j$bp3$1@gioia.aioe.org
            EdProchak  e00e84d6-cdbb-400d-91f1-c4fc961ce166@googlegroups.com
          Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9e2bk$19j8$1@gioia.aioe.org
        EdProchak  55042995-34fa-4c6f-aca4-5c44ec4ce382@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--8.07am.Seattle.2018
    EdProchak  b6761b59-a043-43e7-8acb-ea3e3036c104@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--10.18am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m113 Top; 2.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Mar 29 { 10: 8am, 2018 }:17^(PDT)  Wϑʫʉ
      Less Freedom.

> > Insurance companies are a dangerous "cult/religion/opiate",
> > like communism, saying:
> 
> Pointless crap.

It's useful ( and truthy ) to me.
(Biased) Premises only need be useful, not truthy.
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9gh7o$1b2s$2@gioia.aioe.org
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9gl36$1ip0$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p9i0i2$ng4$4@dont-email.me
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9iq5a$115g$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.18am.Seattle.2018
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9j4i2$1m67$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--10.03am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m232 Mad; 13.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 29 {  9:33am, 2018 }:47^(-5)  Wϑʥϒ
      Just use the server, with no UserName/PassWord specified.

> > Last 30 days, there were about 36 "people" (nyms) worth reading here;
> > 165, if you count the 49 people I plonked and the 80 "Shifties".
> 
> yep 36 regulars, so most all of the newsgroups are quite small now.

There are plenty of people here, for me; I like the quiet.

> I think Windows has dropped support for news servers,
> perhaps Thunderbird too.

No, Usenet is -Well- supported here, on my Win10 box.

> I can't use eternal-september nor news server.net;
> no place to sign in (thunderbird)

Just use the server, with no UserName/PassWord specified;
like FireFox, ThunderBird will prompt you for it;
also, it asks you if you want ThunderBird to remember it.

ThunderBird and FireFox are ultra similar;
learn how to configure one, and you know how to configure the other.

> I don't post to Rec.Food.Cooking, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken,

Yes, you do, when you CrossPost.

> AIOE only likes 3 groups or less.....

Yes, AIOE is a real peice of shit, like that.

> do you know of some other free anon posting news servers ?
> OR near free ?

Unless you enjoy -Random- lags ( when will the post show up ? ),
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      FabianRussell  p9ieka01otu@news4.newsguy.com
    Owl  sz90b803.ahg3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.45am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m59 Cool; 2.8 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 {  6:41am, 2018 }:39  Wϑʈს
      Only ThunderBird posts "Content-Type: multipart/alternative" properly.

> > Is there GNU/Linux software that can post multi-part 
> > messages containing both the text and the binary portions
> 
> Use inline uuencode.

Only ThunderBird posts "Content-Type: multipart/alternative" properly.
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    HughHuntzinger  12c9d248-6fac-4106-b45f-9faf6a152697@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.40am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m9 Top; 3.7 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Mar 29 {  5:47am, 2018 }:29^(PDT)  Wϑɿთ
      Will any of us still be alive, once it stops at the Supreme Court ?

> “Google’s use of the Java API packages [to build Android] was not fair,” 
> appeals court rules.  [ Oracle is seeking more than 9$ billion ]

Will any of us still be alive, once it stops at the Supreme Court ?
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9ie6e$abq$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--8.46am.Seattle.2018
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9j3d9$1job$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.26am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m231 Mad; 8.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 29 {  9:14am, 2018 }:11^(-5)  Wϑʢʃ
      If your ambition is that low, you deserve it, right ?

> > China is winning the game (imperialism) because
> > they aren't as obnoxious/arrogant as the west.
> > With them, it's just business, not intrusion. 
> 
> to get a contract in China,
> you have to give them your intellectual property.

Then don't do it.
If your ambition is that low, you deserve it, right ?
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              Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p9f6m9$e6k$5@dont-email.me
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9gaeh$utl$1@gioia.aioe.org
          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9gh7o$1b2s$2@gioia.aioe.org
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9gl36$1ip0$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p9i0i2$ng4$4@dont-email.me
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9iq5a$115g$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.18am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m228 Mad; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 29 {  6:36am, 2018 }:19^(-5)  WϑʈJ
      Last 30 days, there were about 36 "people" (nyms) worth reading here.

> Facebook gave your "personal" info to the Obama 2012 campaign.
> Usenet is dead; how many people actually posted here, last month ?
>   1,000s ?  100's ?  16.

Last 30 days, there were about 36 "people" (nyms) worth reading here;
165, if you count the 49 people I plonked and the 80 "Shifties".

You (Sergio) post over 9 times/Day; 205 last 3 Weeks.
You use ThunderBird on Win7; "Aioe.ORG" is your (crappy) server.
You posted to:

  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate, 
    Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Food.Cooking, 
    Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken

Your "Subject:" lines:

  Goat boy, Pnal, Sergio, Ed Prochak, Bodkin, Paco (Frank)
  solutions manual to Fundamentals of Database Systems
  Why Do Vorticces Exist in the Atmosphere ?
  Arctic wintertime sea ice extent is among lowest on record
  It's 50 years since climate change was first seen.
  Potato Production and Climate Change

Jeff-Relf.Me/Phy_Regs.HTM
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9ie6e$abq$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--8.46am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m88 Cool; 5.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 29 {  3:12am, 2018 }:30^(-4)  WϑɦU
      China is winning the game (imperialism).

> Specialised species like the mountain hare, 
> adapted to life at high altitudes,
> are particularly affected by climate change.

Yeah, change is a bitch, and so are you.
Lay off the "coffee" please.

"Uppers" ( caffeine, cocaine, meth, adderall, and testosterone )
make us obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

China is winning the game (imperialism) because
they aren't as obnoxious/arrogant as the west.
With them, it's just business, not intrusion. 
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              .  p9fsld$bj5$1@news.albasani.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--6.47am.Seattle.2018
          BranimirMaksimovic  OLNuC.443008$jx2.20340@fx03.am4
        MrChrisV  19bnbdpi123blft6hrouug6asmjnk5gl4s@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--8.15am.Seattle.2018
    Ser_Gregor_Clegane│sergregor  kkinbdtlogk1nr5mmunr94nd56tb50obma@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--8.37am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m10 Cool; 34.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Mar 29 {  7:58am, 2018 }:47^(-4)  WϑʕЭ
      I wish people would post links to their own WebSites.

> > I pay over $80 per year for the 12 servers I mentioned;
> > and I'm paid up on all of them, next 5+ years.
> 
> Twelve news servers. LOL.

No, I wrote:

I wish people would post links to their own WebSites, like this:
    Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG

The "Jeff-Relf.Me" domain name costs $22/year; I'm paid up, 5 years.

"PacificHost.COM" hosts "Jeff-Relf.Me"; $90 for 3 years.
UnLimited BandWidth/Storage/Apps.  I'm paid up for the next 5 years.
My email filters:  Jeff-Relf.Me/filter.yaml.TXT

Do NOT, NOT, -NOT- tell the customer service drones your password;
they'll use it to spam others, so you can't send emails yourself.
[ I changed my PassWord; it's all good now ]

A similar thing happened to one of my VoIP services "FlowRoute.COM".
I told a customer service drone my password and they proceeded 
to spend hundreds of dollars calling random countries (kick backs?).
[ I changed my PassWord; it's all good now ]

By the way, "VoIP.MS" is far better, they have free texting/SMS;
I'm paid up for the next 5+ years ( about $28/Year ).

As for Usenet:

Unless you enjoy -Random- lags ( when will the post show up ? ),
Do NOT use a binary server to read Usenet.
For that, use INN servers; to wit:
  
  News5.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
  News2.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
  News6.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
          News.Individual.NET:119
  
  "Individual.NET" is 10 Euros per year.
  "OpenNews" is cost free ( News5, News2 and News6 are best ).
  Register at:  Open-News-Network.ORG/register
                Must translate from German; if Captcha fails, F5 refresh.
  
Do NOT post using an INN server, they'll ban you !
For that, use a binary server; to wit:
  
  News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119  or  usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 
  
  They won't censor you; they don't even keep the "Path:" line,
  so you can't be identified.  Their archive is over 15 years deep.
  $5 buys you 11 gigs, enough for several life times.
  If one is down ( -very- unlikely ), use the other one.
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              FabianRussell  p9afip0o6l@news1.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  67980b5f-5042-47eb-a388-8ba89bb65aba@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  p9e3rc02aog@news1.newsguy.com
        SteveCarroll  b808d034-e6d1-4632-a77b-484c90c20599@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  p9h4pk02b3k@news2.newsguy.com
    SteveCarroll  f31a835d-ecc6-4bd6-9ee6-8b11c5e77ac1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--2.05am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m144 Cool; 8.8 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 28 {  4:48pm, 2018 }: 7^(PDT)  Wϐჴ7
      Bezos spends billion$ each year on his Blue Origin space venture.

Fabian Russell isn't thinking like Jeff Bezos, that's for sure;
instead, he's worried about getting fired.

Bezos spends billion$ each year on his Blue Origin space venture.
Despite losing 5.2$ billion yesterday ( due to antitrust talk ),
he's still worth 118.9$ billion, 29$ billion more than Gates.
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    Quadibloc│jsavard@ecn_ab_ca  7c4dd837-9ef9-4788-9ea4-9a2e1aeb1830@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--0.31pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 12.3 Hours, GoogleG, 72.143.233.24,  Mar 27 { 11:54pm, 2018 }:12^(PDT)  WϐΞC
      String Theory is a wide pallet.

> supergravity, and its related extension known as string theory 

String Theory is a wide pallet, 
wide enough to draw the ramblings a weak mind.
It cannot make a prediction, it's not science.

We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options;
we don't even -know- our future, much less control it.
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              FabianRussell  p9enm3017sq@news2.newsguy.com
            MrChrisV  0k0nbd1qle8g618nqhso8c70or0tpcl68j@4ax.com
          FabianRussell  8504651e-677f-4ebe-a377-2284a7e8da5c@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  6cd7889a-5d8f-431d-8bc1-02521b9a13a7@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--9.08am.Seattle.2018
    %│persent@gmail_com  b5d4ds.qf7.19.18@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--9.21am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m22 Dropped; 4.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Mar 28 {  9:12am, 2018 }: 1^(-7)  WϐШ1
      Less Freedom.

> > A WellArmed drunk man, in a Las Vegas hotel, upset about blowing
> > his (substantial) life savings, blowing away concert goers, is not
> > the "Well Regulated Militia" that our founding fathers envisioned.
> > 
> > Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
> > Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't.
> > Likewise, communism is not a safe opiate/religion.
> 
> so

So guns will be regulated, by the courts, like it or not.
And schools will have better security ( not drunk red necks ).
Less Freedom.
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            SteveCarroll  a0a0c97c-20a4-46cf-9358-f6e945a678dc@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  p9enm3017sq@news2.newsguy.com
        MrChrisV  0k0nbd1qle8g618nqhso8c70or0tpcl68j@4ax.com
      FabianRussell  8504651e-677f-4ebe-a377-2284a7e8da5c@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  6cd7889a-5d8f-431d-8bc1-02521b9a13a7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--9.08am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m141 Cool; 13.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 28 {  8:42am, 2018 }:53^(PDT)  WϐУr
      The "Well Armed Militia" that our founding fathers were contemplating.

A WellArmed drunk man, in a Las Vegas hotel, upset about blowing 
his (substantial) life savings, blowing away concert goers, is not 
the "Well Regulated Militia" that our founding fathers envisioned.

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't.
Likewise, communism is not a safe opiate/religion.
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              BranimirMaksimovic  p9fo2l$kt8$1@news.albasani.net
            FabianRussell  p9fram0p3b@news4.newsguy.com
          BranimirMaksimovic  p9fsld$bj5$1@news.albasani.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--6.47am.Seattle.2018
      BranimirMaksimovic  OLNuC.443008$jx2.20340@fx03.am4
    MrChrisV  19bnbdpi123blft6hrouug6asmjnk5gl4s@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--8.15am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m55 Dropped; 9.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Mar 28 {  7:59am, 2018 }:56^(-5)  WϐЛჲ
      I pay over $80 per year for the 12 servers I mentioned.

> > > News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119  or  usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 
> >   
> > Thank you very much!!! I just bought some gigs ;)
> 
> It figures that the Relf scrounge would know the cheapest servers. 8)

Of course I do, I pay over $80 per year for the 12 servers I mentioned;
and I'm paid up on all of them, next 5+ years.
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            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p9db5k$1pks$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9dl1j$bp3$1@gioia.aioe.org
        EdProchak  e00e84d6-cdbb-400d-91f1-c4fc961ce166@googlegroups.com
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p9e2bk$19j8$1@gioia.aioe.org
    EdProchak  55042995-34fa-4c6f-aca4-5c44ec4ce382@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--8.07am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Atheism
    ╱ 3  m107 Top; 15.5 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Mar 27 {  3:28pm, 2018 }:28^(PDT)  WϐɨК
      Suppose everyone believed transgender blacks were an insurance risk.

> Actuaries look at long term effects.
> They take no political stand.
> 
> It's all about the numbers, profit and loss.  The report says
> essentially: you ignore climate change, you better be prepared
> for heavy financial loses.

Suppose everyone believed transgender blacks were an insurance risk;
truthy or not, insurance companies would gladly charge them more;
it's political, not scientific.

They're a dangerous "cult/religion/opiate", like communism, saying:

  Pay more (taxes), conform to our (onerous) regulations, 
  or die in our "ReEducation" camps.  We're the elite, the best;
  we decide for you, so you don't have to.

"Uppers" ( caffeine, cocaine, meth, adderall, and testosterone )
make us obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

"Do you believe in God" is a euphemism for "Do you believe in me".
"God is Great" is a euphemism for "I am Great".
"God hates fags" is a euphemism for "I hate fags".

God is obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

"What we chose" (consumption) has been programmed into us ( by nature ).
Ways to do it:

  1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast.
  2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume more later ).
  3. Sacrifice yourself ( so the tribe can consume more ).

Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume.
We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options;
we don't even -know- our future, much less control it.

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't.
Likewise, communism is not a safe opiate/religion.

Everyone has a theory, no one has a solution.

Cuba is wrong.  North Korea is wrong.
Stop insisting that everyone "earns" the same income,
no matter his race, gender, age, competence, etc.

We _need_ losers, lots of them;
it's how we progress -- we select the best.
    
Stop pretending that we all need to drive Mercedes, 
dropping off kids for soccer practice.

Stop punishing sex workers and heroin addicts.
Stop saying:
    This ( my heavy hand ) is what you get, you degenerate.
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              FabianRussell  p9elhj016ql@news7.newsguy.com
            BranimirMaksimovic  p9eolt$d3m$1@news.albasani.net
          FabianRussell  p9fltl0lts@news4.newsguy.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  p9fo2l$kt8$1@news.albasani.net
      FabianRussell  p9fram0p3b@news4.newsguy.com
    BranimirMaksimovic  p9fsld$bj5$1@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--6.47am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 2  m10 Cool; 1.8 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Albasani.NET,  Mar 28 {  4: 1am, 2018 }: 1  Wϐϖz
      Renting a good server ( or two, or three ).

> > [ please link to Usenet articles, not web sites ]
> 
> What servers do you recommend ?  No PayPal, just Visa.

I wish people would post links to their own WebSites, like this:
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              FabianRussell  p9afip0o6l@news1.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  cddfbd24-4c4b-4469-8fec-b5cbf1296c47@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  24134ef7-5674-4584-8cb9-a3ce6a1c1ce6@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  7c758c2a-9e7e-4d11-bc30-8ee34994eda8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--0.48pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  d0e73c0f-48e4-4987-b244-8da712178721@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--2.24pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m141 Cool; 26.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 27 {  1:38pm, 2018 }:59^(PDT)  WϐɖΔ
      The great and mighty Fabian Russell isn't testing his code.

> > <canvas   width="4446"   height="2425"   style=
> >   "width: 2816px; height: 1536px;
> >    background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); 
> >    position: absolute; z-index: 100;
> >    transform: translate(-166px, -14px) scale(1);">
> > 
> > What are the units of >>width="4446"<< I wonder ?
> 
> Pixels, but that attribute has been deprecated for most elements.
> Check this out:  devsite-test.eu5.net/feeb/html5.html

Interesting.
Apparently, the great and mighty Fabian Russell isn't testing his code.

He had no reply to my:
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            SteveCarroll  f29af994-430a-4052-84c9-7ed160106202@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  p9afip0o6l@news1.newsguy.com
        SteveCarroll  cddfbd24-4c4b-4469-8fec-b5cbf1296c47@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  24134ef7-5674-4584-8cb9-a3ce6a1c1ce6@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  7c758c2a-9e7e-4d11-bc30-8ee34994eda8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--0.48pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  m139 Cool; 1.1 Days, GoogleG,  Mar 26 {  9:11am, 2018 }:18^(PDT)  Wωʡь
      What are the units of >>width="4446"<< I wonder ?

> <span align="left" style="font-size: 14; font-weight: bold; ">
> 
> Even people that don't know all about web dev
> know you didn't specify squat there.

Looking at GoogleMaps, I see:

  <div   class="canvas-renderer"   style="overflow: hidden; 
     position: absolute; width: 2432px; height: 1257px;
     background-color: rgb(242, 239, 233); direction: ltr;
     -moz-user-select: none;">

      <div   class="canvas-container"   style="position: absolute;
         left: 0px;  top: 0px;  z-index: 0;
         transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px) scale(1);">

          <canvas   width="4446"   height="2425"   style=
            "width: 2816px; height: 1536px;
             background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); 
             position: absolute; z-index: 100;
             transform: translate(-166px, -14px) scale(1);">

            </canvas></div></div>

What are the units of >>width="4446"<< I wonder ?

"translate(-166px, -14px)" isn't even a constant;
it changes as you drag the mouse;  DOM Inspecter shows it changing.

VoIp.MS has:

  <path   fill="#E0E0E0"
    d="M 6 6.5 L 20 6.5 M 6 11.5 L 20 11.5 M 6 16.5 L 20 16.5"
    stroke="#666"   stroke-width="3"   zIndex="1"></path>

YouTube has:

  <ytd-menu-popup-renderer   tabindex="0"
     class="dropdown-content style-scope ytd-popup-container"
     style=
       "outline: medium none;   box-sizing: border-box;
        max-width: 577.5px;   max-height: 142px;">
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.44am.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  af3a5f98-d150-4ca3-9837-e5f48fbe6c00@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.42pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  8f8e9ef5-a58f-4a20-86ef-264882d3ab1e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.29pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  17b34f52-4455-4b33-9fb2-d9d732dcf159@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--11.53am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 16  m139 Cool; 2.9 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 27 {  8:34am, 2018 }:55^(PDT)  WϐZе
      Nothing compares to FireFox, not even close.

> I run different versions of FireFox; unless I'm missing something, 
> they all appear to reference 1 profile at a time.

Try:

  FireFox -P
  C:\__\EXEs\FireFox\FireFox.EXE -P

It (above) is how I set my profile to:  "C:\__\FF".

I use only the one profile because 
I like knowing what links I hit, 2+ years ago.

Nothing compares to FireFox, not even close,
because no one else has:

  @-moz-document domain(youtube.com)
   
  @-moz-document url(https://www.youtube.com/)
  /*  -Not- the same as "domain(youtube.com)"   */

  @-moz-document url-prefix(http://rarbg.to/torrents.php?), url-prefix(http://rarbg.to/s/)

  @-moz-document url-prefix(https://groups.google.com/forum/)

  @-moz-document regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps)).*")
  /*  !"Google.COM/maps".  */  

  @-moz-document regexp("^https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps.*")
  /*   "Google.COM/maps".  */  

  @-moz-document regexp(".*groups/search\\?.*")

  @-moz-document regexp(".*google.*tbm=isch.*")
  /*   GoogleImages  */

A few minutes ago, I wrote:

  #highcharts-0 > svg:not(#▲):not(#▲)  { Height: 400px !important;  }

  #highcharts-0  rect {  fill: RGB( 11, 33, 22 ) !important;  }

to set the height and BackGround color of a "svg" ( vector ) chart.

I do this all the time, whenever I want to change something on a WebSite.
I  enable/disable/modify  PopUps, etc.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  c840eb1b-4339-43d0-9eba-da1bc7c2682c@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.44am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  faecc01f-8252-48cd-b145-1e148a3db7b0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--11.30am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m28 Top; 3.7 Hours, GoogleG, 185.220.101.1,  Mar 27 {  7: 9am, 2018 }:58^(PDT)  WϐLϞ
      Even the Emperor of Japan trembles before him.

> The Sheriff doesn't like yo technical posts, Jeff

We're all worms, unworthy of His Majesty, the king.
Even the Emperor of Japan trembles before him.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
          SteveCarroll  c840eb1b-4339-43d0-9eba-da1bc7c2682c@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.44am.Seattle.2018
      SteveCarroll  af3a5f98-d150-4ca3-9837-e5f48fbe6c00@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.42pm.Seattle.2018
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.31pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 10  m132 Cool; 5.6 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 26 {  7:24am, 2018 }:37^(PDT)  Wωʐb
      Like "Display: Flex" children, "Transform:" is dynamic.

Oops, I wrote:
> GoogleMaps is thee _only_ place where everything isn't 
> initialised to "Width/Height: Auto".

Now _Everything_ is initialised to "Width/Height: Auto";
all tags, all websites.  These (GoogleMaps) constants work well:

  #scene:not(#▲):not(#▲), .widget-scene:not(#▲):not(#▲),
  .canvas-renderer:not(#▲):not(#▲), canvas:not(#▲):not(#▲)
  {  Width: 3800px !important;  Height: 1964px !important;   }

Like "Display: Flex" children, "Transform:" is dynamic;
make it a constant, and GoogleMaps becomes randomly responsive.

"Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT":

  /*  "Position: Static" Kills PopUps.  "Transform:" is dynamic.  */
  :not(#▲):not(#▲), ::Before, ::After {  Width: Auto !important;  
     Height: Auto !important;  Position: Static !important;  
     Min-Width: 0 !important;  Max-Width: 3800px !important;
     Min-Height: 0 !important;   Max-Height: None !important;
     Line-Height: Normal !important;   Float: UnSet !important;
     Font-Size: 33px !important;  align-items: UnSet !important;
     Flex: none !important;  Filter: UnSet !important;
     Text-Indent: 0 !important;  Text-Align: Left !important;
     Vertical-Align: Top !important;  OverFlow: Visible !important;  }

  @-moz-document domain(youtube.com) {
    .ytd-thumbnail:not(#▲):not(#▲) { Transform: UnSet !important;    } }

  @-moz-document regexp("^https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps.*") {
    jsl :not(#▲):not(#▲)  {  Position: Absolute !important;  }
    .section-image-pack  :not(#▲):not(#▲)  {  Position: Relative !important;   }

    #scene:not(#▲):not(#▲), .widget-scene:not(#▲):not(#▲),
    .canvas-renderer:not(#▲):not(#▲), canvas:not(#▲):not(#▲) {

      /*  Hight/Width Ratio must be maintained  */
      Width: 3800px !important;  Height: 1964px !important;   } }
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  c840eb1b-4339-43d0-9eba-da1bc7c2682c@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.44am.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  af3a5f98-d150-4ca3-9837-e5f48fbe6c00@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.42pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  8f8e9ef5-a58f-4a20-86ef-264882d3ab1e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.29pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 10  m133 Cool; 2.6 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 26 {  2:47pm, 2018 }:25^(PDT)  Wωςდ
      _Everything_ is initialised to "Position: Static".

> It sucks that FireFox will only let you use 1 profile 
> amongst the various versions of their browsers.

I haven't tried it, but I think you can install multiple versions
of FireFox, each with its own set of profiles.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  c840eb1b-4339-43d0-9eba-da1bc7c2682c@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.44am.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  af3a5f98-d150-4ca3-9837-e5f48fbe6c00@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.42pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 10  m132 Cool; 5.6 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 26 {  7:24am, 2018 }:37^(PDT)  Wωʐb
      _Everything_ is initialised to "Position: Static".

> > > > Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeChannel.PNG
> > When something doesn't work "right" ( as expected ),
> > it's a fun puzzle to solve; but I should be cleaning toilets instead.
> 
> I just looked at the others, much easier to look at. 

I restored "Notices" recently ( the bell icon at the top ),
so I know when a YouTuber replies to me.

  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeNotices.PNG

_Everything_ is initialised to "Position: Static", but I restore 
"Position: Fixed|Relative|Absolute" to certain tags ( PopUps ).

Google Maps is thee _only_ place where everything isn't 
initialised to "Width/Height: Auto".

"Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT":

  @-moz-document regexp("^https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps.*") {

     #pane :not(#▲) {  Width: Auto !important;  Height: Auto !important;  }

     jsl :not(#▲):not(#▲)  {  Position: Absolute !important;   }

     .section-image-pack  :not(#▲):not(#▲)  {  Position: Relative !important;   }

     .section-image-pack-label, #minimap, #titlecard, .noprint,
     [ class = "section-listbox section-listbox-root" ] > :not(.section-image-pack)
     {  Display: None !important;  } }
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
      .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--8.52am.Seattle.2018
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--5.39pm.Seattle.2018
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--6.59am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    +Top, 22.6 Hours, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 23 { 10: 1am, 2018 }:56^(Seattle)  Wχʪɴ
      not(#▲):not(#▲), ::Before, ::After { Position: Static }

Oops, I wrote:
> " Position: Static;    Top: -1000 "  should be ( but isn't ) the same as
> " Position: Relative;  Top:     0 "  
> The DOM Inspector says it's " Position: Static;  Top: 0 "; but it's not.

"::Before" had " Position: Absolute; Top: 1000px " ! ! !
..mw-echo-notifications-badge::Before

not(#▲):not(#▲), ::Before, ::After { Position: Static }

Now, "Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT" has:

  /*  !"YouTube.COM/watch":  */
  @-moz-document 
  regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps|https://www.youtube.com/watch)).*") {
    :not(#▲):not(#▲), ::Before, ::After {  Position: Static !important;  
       Top: 0 !important;  Left: 0 !important;  Bottom: 0 !important;  
       Right: 0 !important;  Z-Index: 0 !important;   } }
                                               
  /*  !"Google.COM/maps":    */  
  @-moz-document regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps)).*") {
    :not(#▲):not(#▲), ::Before, ::After {
       Width: Auto !important;  Height: Auto !important;  Min-Width: 0 !important;
       Max-Width: 3800px !important;  Min-Height: 0 !important;
       Max-Height: None !important;  Line-Height: Normal !important;  } }
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  c840eb1b-4339-43d0-9eba-da1bc7c2682c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--5.44am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m128 Cool; 10.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 25 {  7:20pm, 2018 }: 3^(PDT)  WωNɻ
      I should be cleaning toilets instead.

> > Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeChannel.PNG
> 
> This guy is helping me with a React.js issue right now,
> but I did look at this first image.  Way better!

When something doesn't work "right" ( as expected ),
it's a fun puzzle to solve; but I should be cleaning toilets instead.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--8.52am.Seattle.2018
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--5.39pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    +Top, 22.6 Hours, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 23 { 10: 1am, 2018 }:56^(Seattle)  Wχʪɴ
      Position: Static;  Top: -99

> Parent's "Display: Flex" OverRides the "Display" and "Position"
> settings of its children, not JavaScript.
> 
> Scan Parents; "Display: Flex" --> "Display: Block";
> "Position: Abosulte" --> "Position: Static".
> Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT

" Position: Static;  Top: -99 "  should be ( but isn't ) the same as:

  1.) Position: Relative;  Top: 0;  Left: 0;  
      Bottom: 0;  Right: 0;  Z-Index: 0;
  Or
  2.) Position: Relative;  Top: Auto;  Left: Auto;  
      Bottom: Auto;  Right: Auto;  Z-Index: Auto;

For some odd reason, I have to use #1 ( or #2 )
when I want "Position: Static" for:

  li#pt-notifications-notice
    a.mw-echo-notifications-badge.mw-echo-notifications-badge-all-read

  Wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Anthony_Scaramucci

The DOM Inspector says it's " Position: Static;  Top: 0 ";
but it's not, not unless I use #1.  Note, I also do:

  :not(#▲):not(#▲) {  
    Width:    Auto !important;  Height:      Auto    !important;
    Min-Width:   0 !important;  Max-Width:   3800px  !important;
    Min-Height:  0 !important;  Max-Height:  None    !important;    }
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    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--8.52am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
    +Top, 22.6 Hours, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 23 { 10: 1am, 2018 }:56^(Seattle)  Wχʪɴ
      Scan Parents; "Display: Flex" --> "Display: Block".

Oops, I wrote:
> Changing the size and color of most everything is hard because
> JavaScipt OverRides some settings ( "Display" and "Position" ).  

Parent's "Display: Flex" OverRides the "Display" and "Position"
settings of its children, not JavaScript.

Scan Parents; "Display: Flex" --> "Display: Block";
"Position: Abosulte" --> "Position: UnSet".

The CSS:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
  [  Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT  ]

@-moz-document regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps|https://www.youtube.com/watch)).*") {

  /*  "Position: UnSet" Destroys GoogleMaps, and YouTube's Fly·Out Menus ( Comment "Edit" Menu ).   */

  :not(#▲) { Position: UnSet !important;  } }

@-moz-document regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps)).*") {

   /*  "Height: auto" hides some (JavaScript) Buttons.  */

  :not(#▲) {  Width: auto !important;  Height: auto !important;  
    Min-Width: 0 !important;  Max-Width: 3800px !important;  
    Min-Height: 0 !important;  Max-Height: none !important;  } }
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          JohnGohde  3595a22d-7e18-47da-a9e2-760df6f84153@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  2701f9de-2824-474f-a3ae-68ed427c8d1f@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.25am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  ade12034-5258-43fd-b45a-330dd04cf7e8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--8.30am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m26 Top; 49.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 216.218.134.12,  Mar 24 {  6:23am, 2018 }:56^(PDT)  WψDჲ
      I like both:  Pert and YoYo.

> > The "DanceOn" channel; " Let It Go ", by James Bay:
> > 
> >     YouTube.COM/watch?v=IpVf5-aTgys
> 
> pretty muscular lady, isn't she?  
> far better than those lanky boobs yo showed previously...

"Issues", by Julia Michaels:

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=XRBzkXja2gY
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      JohnGohde  3595a22d-7e18-47da-a9e2-760df6f84153@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  2701f9de-2824-474f-a3ae-68ed427c8d1f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.25am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m23 Top; 11.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 176.10.99.200,  Mar 23 { 10:32am, 2018 }:55^(PDT)  Wχʯʯ
      The "DanceOn" channel, " Let It Go ", by James Bay.

> > "Jerk it Out!"  YouTube.COM/watch?v=R7eFXlfFiO0
> 
> "Happy":  YouTube.COM/watch?v=sGrHwBlf-7M

The "DanceOn" channel; " Let It Go ", by James Bay:

    YouTube.COM/watch?v=IpVf5-aTgys
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.01am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers
      How YouTube looks to me ( after recent changes ).

How YouTube looks to me ( after recent changes ):

  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeChannel.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComments.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSubs.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSearch.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTube.COM.PNG

Changing the size and color of most everything is hard because
JavaScipt OverRides some settings ( "Display" and "Position" ).  

If something looks wrong, on some random page, 
I'll either write some CSS for it
or I'll just open it in Chrome, sans my "userContent.CSS".

FireFox.56, Win10:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT
  Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
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    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p91ait$tuj$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--2.29am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m177 Mad; 10.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 22 {  3:26pm, 2018 }:38^(-5)  Wφღʞ
      There's more to life than being fuckable.

> [ Snip "Gravity is a misogynist because boobs sag" ]

YoYo Boobs ( Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYos.JPG ) are nice; 
but firm ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Firm.JPG ) is good too, if natural.
Lucky for me, there's more to life than being fuckable.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p900uv$esc$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--3.51am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m94 Cool; 6.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 22 {  3:36am, 2018 }: 7^(-4)  Wφϑ7
      Selling the commie drug.

> when I speak out to demand climate action, 
> everyone just seems to k0ok out and froth...)

Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't;
likewise, communism is not a safe opiate/religion.

You're the pusher man, "kensi", selling the commie drug;
and you won't take "no" for an answer.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--2.17am.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  p8ti5c$kuc$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--6.01am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m115 Dropped; 12.2 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Mar 21 {  5:11am, 2018 }:24  Wφ1გ
      Five minutes more in Seattle traffic saves $35k in home prices.

> > Any big city, with a decent climate, is expensive;
> > because we all want to live there, 
> > instead of  driving|riding  long distances all the time.

" Five minutes more in Seattle traffic saves $35k in home prices "
  -- King5.COM, March 2018

Since the recession ended, 9 years ago ( March 2009 ),
home prices in San Francisco increased 113%;
Los Angeles is up 70%; Seattle 55%.

" The hyper job market in the Pacific Northwest continues
  to outpace almost every metro area in the nation " 
  -- Coldwell Banker Bain, March 2018

" The typical house in Seattle costs about $100k more
  than it did a year ago ... condo prices are up 22 percent
  [ to $535k ] from a year ago in [ greater Seattle ] "
  -- Northwest MLS, March 2018

" Experts predict prices will continue to go up through the summer,
  which is when sales go up anyways because of the better weather. "
  -- KomoNews.COM, March 2018
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  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Rent closely tracks gas prices.

Any big city, with a decent climate, is expensive;
because we all want to live there, 
instead of  driving|riding  long distances all the time.

When taxes are too high, and regulations are too onerous,
either landlords drop out ( raising rents );
or, less likely, renters drop out; or a bit of both.

In or out of the city, rent closely tracks gas prices; see:
SeekingAlpha.COM/article/4138264-Weekly-Gasoline-Price-Update-WTIC

None of this, above, is controllable|predictable.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--11.31am.Seattle.2018
            FabianRussell  a6304246-ef59-4b12-871a-73324eabb9e0@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--10.23am.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  c630c8b0-555c-48bb-959e-8a916614d495@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--11.12am.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  779760c3-e3ff-4a61-a699-22ecc198e129@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--11.54am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m105 Cool; 9.2 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 20 { 11:36am, 2018 }: 6^(PDT)  WυΛ6
      Who is Fabian trying to convince, himself ? !

> > With Snit gone, you need a replacement.
> 
> Many come to usenet for the adversarial aspect 
> ( I would say you do, as well )

I don't preach, "I'm God, you're all worms", over and over again.
Who is Fabian trying to convince, himself ? !
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              SteveCarroll  00e2d19b-c62d-41c8-960d-fda9b04e52ea@googlegroups.com
            FabianRussell  p8ll7b02gl4@news2.newsguy.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--11.31am.Seattle.2018
        FabianRussell  a6304246-ef59-4b12-871a-73324eabb9e0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--10.23am.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  c630c8b0-555c-48bb-959e-8a916614d495@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--11.12am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m104 Cool; 7.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 20 { 10:57am, 2018 }:41^(PDT)  WυΔφ
      With Snit gone, Steve Carroll needs a replacement.

> > Everyone hates you, Fabian Russell, because
> > your empathy is lost in your caffeine haze,
> > where you preach "I'm God, you're worms" NonStop.
> 
> Hate is a strong word. YMMV but  I don't even hate my exes so I'm not going 
> to hate people I don't really know on usenet.

True, you like him, in a way.
With Snit gone, you need a replacement.
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              JamesMcGinn  72403140-2a73-4758-8994-23d4f76959af@googlegroups.com
            EdProchak  c3dab955-2843-460a-b57d-5fb4bc0ba62c@googlegroups.com
          JamesMcGinn  c98e708f-c96b-4ae6-b0c7-74504865bd1b@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  ba8761c6-b28d-427c-950a-6aa94f1725ea@googlegroups.com
      JamesMcGinn  eb60a048-4d44-4844-bd9a-94a6872f7e3f@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  5ef14892-515c-453c-b28b-3b5f634eca46@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--3.48pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m112 Top; 10.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Mar 19 {  3:27pm, 2018 }:24^(PDT)  Wτღε
      James McGinn is abusing "caffeine" ( or something like it ).

James McGinn is abusing "caffeine" ( or something like it ).

His caffeine haze prevents him from seeing us; no empathy; 
he can't stop preaching: "I'm God, you're worms";
it's wearing down his immune system, I'm sure.
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              .  almarsoft.5207325364960735575@us.news.astraweb.com
            Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  8jitadpepjmcabvcemmcik8jqbcrgtepij@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--7.18pm.Seattle.2018
        Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  n2bvadltmv4ajjrs0k7haatgamrs4nnhdr@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--10.03am.Seattle.2018
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  ur50bdl6p8d8flv8g3vrq44hn2sia0htos@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--3.22pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Culture.Indian, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m6 Shifty; 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 19 {  1: 7pm, 2018 }:36^(-4)  Wτяɠ
      Would Trump let Google buy AT&T ?

> > Today, in the -English- speaking world, Google/YouTube/Amazon dominate.
> 
> There's a big "anti-trust" thing supposed to start in DC today against AT&T.
> I wonder how they happened to miss good old Google, evil overlord of cyberspace ?

"Trump" doesn't want AT&T to buy Time Warner ( CNN, HBO, etc. );
would he let Google buy AT&T ?

I like HBO's WestWorld ( coming April 22, 2018 );
but, to me, YouTube is a much, -much- bigger deal.
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            FabianRussell  p8ig86212iu@news4.newsguy.com
          SteveCarroll  00e2d19b-c62d-41c8-960d-fda9b04e52ea@googlegroups.com
        FabianRussell  p8ll7b02gl4@news2.newsguy.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--11.31am.Seattle.2018
    FabianRussell  a6304246-ef59-4b12-871a-73324eabb9e0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--10.23am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m82 Dropped; 48.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 19 {  8:19am, 2018 }:50^(PDT)  WτПɮ
      Michael Glasser probably died of AIDS; caffeine wore down his immune system.

> > Also, he doesn't care enough to write apps for your Androids, 
> > iPhones, Macs, iPads, ChromeBooks, Kindles, and Windows boxen.
> > Remember when everyone thought Bill Gates had the monopoly ? !
> 
> Even a destitute clown would reject a freak like you.
> Yech!  Eeew!  You turn my stomach!

Everyone hates you, Fabian Russell, because
your empathy is lost in your caffeine haze,
where you preach "I'm God, you're worms" NonStop.

Michael Glasser probably died of AIDS; caffeine wore down his immune system.
Next up: Fabian Russell and John Gohde.
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              .  86mradllhp7c588ap2fkncm7gc7ghbhj9q@4ax.com
            .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.50pm.Seattle.2018
          .  almarsoft.5207325364960735575@us.news.astraweb.com
        Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  8jitadpepjmcabvcemmcik8jqbcrgtepij@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--7.18pm.Seattle.2018
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  n2bvadltmv4ajjrs0k7haatgamrs4nnhdr@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--10.03am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Culture.Indian, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m5 Shifty; 3.5 Hours, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 19 {  5:36am, 2018 }:47^(-4)  Wτϴl
      Today, in the -English- speaking world, Google/YouTube/Amazon dominate.

> > My laser printer/scanner is Japanese ( Brother ); it works well.
> 
> I will give the Japanese due credit.  
> It's something about their "perfection thru simplicity" philosophy
>  - reduction to essential elements.  
> 
> They took a lot of clunky US tech inventions and, by cutting out the BS,
> refined them into far more affordable and reliable products.
> 
> IMHO there's a symbiotic, almost yin/yang, relationship 
> between US & Japan tech thinking. 

We used to "Xerox" stuff, now we "make copies" ( on a Japanese printer ).
Once, Apple had the only good laser printer; then HP, now Brother.
Once, courts punished MicroSoft for being an evil monopoly... no longer.

Today, in the -English- speaking world, Google/YouTube/Amazon dominate.
In India, no one has a monopoly, I think.
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              Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  8jitadpepjmcabvcemmcik8jqbcrgtepij@4ax.com
            Gospel_TT│theophilus_theodore_  almarsoft.2543946959655220550@us.news.astraweb.com
          Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  e60uadh5ievkq7dvg99t13q9ss6ke3pf7l@4ax.com
        Smiler│smiler@jo_king  p8n288$jov$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--7.53pm.Seattle.2018
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  upavad9jaa8kfd67plpjflqb8uatb4k025@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--9.43am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Soc.Culture.Indian, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 2  m5 Shifty; 3.7 Hours, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 19 {  5:25am, 2018 }:25^(-4)  Wτϲɕ
      I invested much time and money into it, as one must.

> I've got a W2k VM ... last "good" Winders IMHO  :-) 

I love Win10; so I invested much time and money into it, as one must.
Change is the only constant in life; adapt.

> > > It took 6 hours to download and install an update to Win 10 today. 
> > > I've got a 100Mb internet connection and my computer has an 
> > > AMD A10 processor! Not a slow machine by any means.

I updated Win10 yesterday, it took me 6 hours ( I timed it ),
but I went off on -many-tangents-, doing other (good) stuff.
Previous update was 12 months ago.

From my "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT":

  ; Stop/Disable the "Windows Update", "Windows Modules Installer", 
  ; and "Background Intelligence transfer" services; then reboot.
  ; See << "metered" ( no automatic updates ) >>, below.
  ; AutoRuns.EXE kills "Startup" items.
  ; 
  ; After Windows Update, -Manually- rename the "Documents" folder to "Sys" !
  ; After merging/running this file, launching a .JPG file brings up 
  ; the "Open With" prompt ( nothing can OverRide your -Manual- decision ).

  ;  >  >  >  Take ownership of this key, -Manually-, using RegEdit  <  <  <   Requires a ReBoot.
  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
  ; 1 - UnMetered;  2 - "metered" ( no automatic updates ).
  @=dword:2
  "Default"=dword:2
  "WiFi"=dword:2
  "Ethernet"=dword:2

> > Updates are worth it, sometimes.
> > My Win10 box doesn't update UnlessAndUntil I ask for it;
> > sadly, MicroSoft makes this hard to do.
> 
> Just quit using Winders ... problem solved. 

You've not invested a lot of time and money into your (obscure) distro ?

What does your PC look like, monitor, disk, CPU, etc. ?
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.50pm.Seattle.2018
            .  almarsoft.5207325364960735575@us.news.astraweb.com
          Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  8jitadpepjmcabvcemmcik8jqbcrgtepij@4ax.com
        Gospel_TT│theophilus_theodore_  almarsoft.2543946959655220550@us.news.astraweb.com
      Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  e60uadh5ievkq7dvg99t13q9ss6ke3pf7l@4ax.com
    Smiler│smiler@jo_king  p8n288$jov$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--7.53pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Soc.Culture.Indian, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 11 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 18 {  6: 3pm, 2018 }: 4  WτʂΙ
      My Win10 box doesn't update UnlessAndUntil I ask for it.

> >  I *think* there's a Linux that can be started a and run INSIDE of Winders.
> 
> If you create a virtual machine in Windoze*, any distro can be run in it.
> 
> * It took 6 hours to download and install an update to Win 10 today. 
> I've got a 100Mb internet connection and my computer has an 
> AMD A10 processor! Not a slow machine by any means.

Yes but the updates are worth it, sometimes.
My Win10 box doesn't update UnlessAndUntil I ask for it;
sadly, MicroSoft makes this hard to do.
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              .  86mradllhp7c588ap2fkncm7gc7ghbhj9q@4ax.com
            .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.50pm.Seattle.2018
          .  almarsoft.5207325364960735575@us.news.astraweb.com
        Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  8jitadpepjmcabvcemmcik8jqbcrgtepij@4ax.com
      Gospel_TT│theophilus_theodore_  almarsoft.2543946959655220550@us.news.astraweb.com
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  e60uadh5ievkq7dvg99t13q9ss6ke3pf7l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--7.29pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Culture.Indian, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 43.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 18 {  5:30pm, 2018 }:39^(-4)  Wτɽd
      Here in Seattle, the Internet and SSDs obsoleted DVDs.

> Download [ some random distro, for your PDP-11 ],
> burn to stick or DVD.  "Live" versions can
> be booted on-demand without installing to hard disk.
> 
> Some burners allow a space where data will be
> saved between uses instead of just disappearing.

Are you in India, Soc.Culture.Indian ?

Here in Seattle, the Internet and SSDs obsoleted DVDs.
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              .  c37radho3931a54dg33sg2q3bd0mmjn3pa@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.56pm.Seattle.2018
          .  86mradllhp7c588ap2fkncm7gc7ghbhj9q@4ax.com
        .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.50pm.Seattle.2018
      .  almarsoft.5207325364960735575@us.news.astraweb.com
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  8jitadpepjmcabvcemmcik8jqbcrgtepij@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--7.18pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Culture.Indian, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 2  m2 Shifty; 4.7 Hours, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 18 {  1:32pm, 2018 }:24^(-4)  Wτɕʐ
      Doesn't anyone buy/sell Indian products ?

> > > I wrote my own newreader, for Win10:  Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
> 
> Why Win10 ? it's spyware bloat.  Plenty of distros to choose from.

I love Windows 10, Creators update.  I turned off the bad stuff.
Win10 is very customizable, if you take the time to do it.

  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSubs.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComments.PNG

I never buy ( American ) Apple; I have no cell phone.
I have a ( Korean ) 1 TeraByte SSD, Samsung 850 EVO. 
My laser printer/scanner is Japanese ( Brother ); it works well.
My MotherBoard is Taiwanese ( ASUS ).
My 40" 4K curved monitor is Dutch ( Philips ).

My g910 keyboard, g600 mouse and g633 headset are Swiss ( Logitech ). 
I bow down before Logitech, my beloved God.

My i7-5775c CPU is American ( Intel ), as is my OS, Windows,
my 128 Gig USB stick ( SanDisk ), FanLess PowerSupply ( Rosewill ),
and monitor arm ( Amazon ).

Doesn't anyone buy/sell Indian products ?
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              Owl  s9z0b83.h0bae4@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  0c44cd91-903e-4793-b1ca-8ecb2145fcff@googlegroups.com
          Owl  sz8b0a.33h@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  6a9b6f87-10a4-44fa-a2a8-04fa107ca4af@googlegroups.com
      Owl  l0a99b93.ahu34@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  8b1c957a-1c07-49b7-8bf8-660f805fab7d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--0.49pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m98 Cool; 25.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 18 { 11:59am, 2018 }:53^(PDT)  WτȻჯ
      Top code editors.

> linux.slashdot.org/story/18/03/17/0438256/vim-beats-emacs-in-linux-journal-reader-survey

I prefer Visual Studio ( the IDE ), I even write macros 
( assigned to keys and buttons ) and extensions for it ( in C# ).

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
  Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
  Docs.MicroSoft.COM/EN-US/VisualStudio/IDE/Using-Regular-eXpressions-in-Visual-Studio
  Docs.MicroSoft.COM/EN-US/DotNet/Standard/Base-Types/Regular-Expression-Language-Quick-Reference

However, it doesn't make anyone's list of "Top code editors".
Remember when everyone thought Bill Gates had a monopoly ? !
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        FabianRussell  p8ig86212iu@news4.newsguy.com
      SteveCarroll  00e2d19b-c62d-41c8-960d-fda9b04e52ea@googlegroups.com
    FabianRussell  p8ll7b02gl4@news2.newsguy.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--11.31am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Comp.Lang.C++
    -Dropped, 5.8 Hours, Pan, Newsguy.COM➤NewsGuy.COM, Newsdawg.COM,  Mar 18 {  5:14am, 2018 }:35  Wτ2ʛ
      Remember when everyone thought Bill Gates had the monopoly ? !

> There are two activities that are characteristic of a pussy-man,
> and those activities are web "development" and psychology,
> both of which are practiced by Dummy Carroll.

Lay off the caffeine, you obnoxious twit, before you die of AIDS.

> shopping and banking could be accommodated with software 
> that could be installed on local machines.

Bezos is too rich ( from his stupid, GirlyBoy website ) to care
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              Owl  sz9b0930ab.o03a@rooftop.invalid
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--8.58am.Seattle.2018
          Owl  ps9x83.ahui3gv3@rooftop.invalid
        Owl  9xa00b8903a.bu@rooftop.invalid
      SteveCarroll  111a603a-c2c1-4908-8029-cdf0e2dca1a4@googlegroups.com
    Owl  s9z0b83.h0bae4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--10.44am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m34 Cool; 1.1 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 18 {  8:24am, 2018 }:19  WτYJ
      \/\*[\s\S\r\n]*?\*\/   finds MultiLine comments.

> > I don't write C but does this work (or is there an regex engine issue for you)?
> > /(\/\*([\s\S]*?)\*\/)|(\/\/(.*)$)/g         
> 
> That just matches C or C++ style comments on a single line.

In Visual Studio, the RegEx command ( above ) is limited to one line.
\/\*([\s\S]*?)\*\/   works the same as   \/\*.*?\*\/
\/\*[\s\S\r\n]*?\*\/   finds MultiLine comments,
but it doesn't care if they're in a string literal or not.

> stripcom
> sed 's/\(.*".*\)\(\/\*\)\(.*\)\(\*\/\)\(.*".*);\)/\1AAAAA\3BBBBB\5/g'\
> |sed 's/\(.*\\".*\)\(\/\*\)\(.*\)\(\*\/\)\(.*\\".*\)/\1AAAAA\3BBBBB\5/g'\
> |sed 's/\(\/\*\)\(.*\)/\nBEG\n\1\n\2/g;s/\(\*\/\)\(.*\)/\n\1\nEND\n\2/g'\
> |sed '/BEG/,/END/d'\
> |sed 's|/\*|\n&|g;s|*/|&\n|g' | sed '/\/\*/,/*\//d'\
> |sed 's/AAAAA/\/\*/g'|sed 's/BBBBB/\*\//g'

Ouch... that hurts.  I don't think I'll try it.
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              .  20180315Gi8LiBe94q@PuTT
            .  20180316Hy7GyRe16o@LoBX
          .  c62rC.4921$177.3468@fx41.iad
        Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  c37radho3931a54dg33sg2q3bd0mmjn3pa@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.56pm.Seattle.2018
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  86mradllhp7c588ap2fkncm7gc7ghbhj9q@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--10.01pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Misc, Alt.Atheism
    ╱ 1  m4 Shifty; 1.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 17 {  8:15pm, 2018 }:50^(-4)  WσОϖ
      Where's the party at ? Sci.Physics and Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy.

> > Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
> > Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't.
> > Likewise, communism is not a safe opiate/religion.
> 
> What's sci.physics have to do with any of this ?

Where's the party at ? Sci.Physics and Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy.

> Well, I'm not a 'drug war' person ... so I'll let people
> TRY "communism" - so long as they keep it to themselves.

We feel sorry for them, the opiate/religion junkies;
they need help, losts of it, more than we can give.
How do we stop them from stealing from us, or worse ? !

> > Everyone has a theory, no one has a solution.
> 
> a degree of order and cooperation can exist.

"What we chose" (consumption) has been programmed into us ( by nature ).
Ways to do it:

  1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast.
  2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume more later ).
  3. Sacrifice yourself ( so the tribe can consume more ).

Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume.
We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options;
we don't even -know- our future, much less control it.

> > Cuba is wrong.  North Korea is wrong.
> > Stop insisting that everyone "earns" the same income,
> > no matter his race, gender, age, competence, etc.
> 
> Meritocracy is the only practical guide ... for our
> kind of animal anyhow. Anything else encourages
> sloth, dependency, theft, maybe even slavery. 

Communist slaves "work hard or die"; still, 
some prefer it ( the opium ) over the rat race.
How do we stop them from stealing from us, or worse ? !

> > We _need_ losers, lots of them;
> > it's how we progress -- we select the best.
> 
> It's sometimes useful to look at economics from
> a thermodynamics viewpoint. For there to be work
> done there HAS to be an energy (money) gradient.
> 
> Equal wealth = NO wealth = NO work to be done
> because nobody has anything to offer. 

Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
now add a little "gravity&eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ),
so it fits in the head of a pin.

When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
[ And, NO, it was NOT a (true) black hole back then ]

Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death.
Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but no gravity or eXergy.
     
> > Stop pretending that we all need to drive Mercedes, 
> > dropping off kids for soccer practice.
> 
> Mercedes .... no no ... anti-"green" !  :-) 
> Bicycles, umpteen million bicycles ... like Mao's China.
> That'll use up everybody's time and energy ... 

I'd rather walk ( in Seattle ), much greener.
However, most people aren't like me... they want cars and kids.

> > Stop punishing sex workers and heroin addicts.
> > Stop saying:
> >     This ( my heavy hand ) is what you get, you degenerate.
> 
> People are kinda hardwired for dominance heirarchies,
> like many species on the planet.  We love it when there's
> somebody we can step on, think we're *so* superior to.
> 
> "Superiority" can be anything ... 
> money, family, locale, skin tone, religion, whatever. 

"Uppers" ( caffeine, cocaine, meth, adderall, and testosterone )
make us obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

"Do you believe in God" is a euphemism for "Do you believe in me".
"God is Great" is a euphemism for "I am Great".
"God hates fags" is a euphemism for "I hate fags".

God is obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

> You can't forbid/prevent people from thinking like
> that, but you CAN kinda take the wind out of their
> sails before they become a bona-fide threat. 

Yes, I'm a buzz killer.  Just today ( St. Patrick's day ),
I asked my usually sober, now obnoxious housemate:
" Are you high ? drunk ? ".

> I've always been amused though by the haughty
> self-superior women who brag about how they
> lured Mr. Moneybags into marrying them .... and
> yet do not consider themselves to be prostitutes.

They ( the caffeinated, man or woman, girl or boy )
use the money to fuck "pretty young things".

10+ billion views tells us that _everyone_ ( boy, girl, man or woman )
is attracted to a cute young girl, such as Justin Bieber;
likewise, no one ( boy, girl, man or woman ) wants to fuck Gates or Bezos.

> my newsreader is running under 'wine' :-)

I wrote my own newreader, for Win10:  Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM
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          alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20180315Gi8LiBe94q@PuTT
        alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20180316Hy7GyRe16o@LoBX
      BenJacoby  c62rC.4921$177.3468@fx41.iad
    Mr_B1ack│nowhere@nada_net  c37radho3931a54dg33sg2q3bd0mmjn3pa@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.56pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Culture.Indian, Alt.Philosophy, Soc.Culture.Usa, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 2.4 Hours, F_Agent, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.169.216,  Mar 17 {  4: 4pm, 2018 }:44^(-4)  WσϖЪ
      Everyone has a theory, no one has a solution.

> > > " I honor Lenin as a man who completely sacrificed himself
> > >   and devoted all his energy to the realization of social justice.
> > >
> > >   I do not consider his methods practical,
> > >   but one thing is certain:  men of his type
> > >   are the guardians and restorers of humanity. "
> > >
> > > Wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> 
>    Socialism and most especially Marxism require ... well ... 
>    some kind of species other than human if they're gonna 
>    work smoothly. Seems that when humans don't think
>    feel or act like they're "supposed to" - that's when
>    the whips and guns come out to MAKE them be happy 
>    little collectivists campers. 
> 
>    Maybe tomorrows robots will be Marxists ... 

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't.
Likewise, communism is not a safe opiate/religion.

Everyone has a theory, no one has a solution.

Cuba is wrong.  North Korea is wrong.
Stop insisting that everyone "earns" the same income,
no matter his race, gender, age, competence, etc.

We _need_ losers, lots of them;
it's how we progress -- we select the best.
    
Stop pretending that we all need to drive Mercedes, 
dropping off kids for soccer practice.

Stop punishing sex workers and heroin addicts.
Stop saying:
    This ( my heavy hand ) is what you get, you degenerate.
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              ChrisAhlstrom  p8g2pi$vfj$2@dont-email.me
            Owl  fa9b003a.ahbio3@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.31am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  sz9b0930ab.o03a@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--8.58am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  ps9x83.ahui3gv3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--0.05pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m33 Cool; 42.5 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 17 { 11:14am, 2018 }:18  WσΗʊ
      I don't have time to decipher it right now.

> rem3
> sed 's/\(.*".*\)\(\/\*\)\(.*\)\(\*\/\)\(.*".*);\)/\1AAAAA\3BBBBB\5/g'\
> |sed 's/\(.*\\".*\)\(\/\*\)\(.*\)\(\*\/\)\(.*\\".*\)/\1AAAAA\3BBBBB\5/g'\
> |sed 's|/\*|\n&|g;s|*/|&\n|g' | sed '/\/\*/,/*\//d'\
> |sed 's/AAAAA/\/\*/g'|sed 's/BBBBB/\*\//g'

Nice work, apparently, but I don't have time to decipher it right now.
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              FabianRussell  p8bf990292h@news1.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  fee640b3-1735-4db2-8057-0343200d2fea@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--8.23pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  23290897-3a07-41ce-a9bd-29e0b71f961b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--5.43am.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  6c449f50-6afe-4471-a604-c433b430e712@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--11.50am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.Lang.C++
    ╱ 3  m89 Cool; 14.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 17 { 10:20am, 2018 }:12^(PDT)  Wσʭʄ
      The only changes I've seen have -all- been for the better.

> > YouTube radically changed when I moved to FireFox.56;
> > so I simply ReWrote the CSS.
> 
> Looks like there has also been a spotty history with @document.

"@-moz-document regexp() {}" works a treat; I've no complaints.
The only changes I've seen have -all- been for the better.

Also, HTML.5 works better than 4 -- lots of w3 validator's PseudoErrors
( for "Jeff-Relf.Me" ) vanished this way, with me having to do nothing.

Likely, Google dropped FireFox ( for Chrome ) 
because FireFox was/is too good at blocking ads.

> > > > My (FireFox.56) "Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT" mods YouTube.
> > > > YouTube responds -very- differently to FireFox.42, wow !  different CSS.
> > > > FireFox.58 kills my extensions, so I can't use it.
> 
> Are you saying the CSS.TXT that you pointed to is not what you're using ?

No, I'm using it right now, for FireFox.56;
it's just different from what I used for FireFox.42, a big ReWrite .

> Will you show a screenshot of your CSS hacks with YT and Google?
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              ChrisAhlstrom  p8evgi$658$3@dont-email.me
            Owl  a0b803ab.jzi4@rooftop.invalid
          ChrisAhlstrom  p8g2pi$vfj$2@dont-email.me
        Owl  fa9b003a.ahbio3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.31am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  sz9b0930ab.o03a@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--8.58am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m31 Cool; 9.5 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 17 {  8:34am, 2018 }:12  WσʛϺ
      char s = "Not a \"/**/\" style Comment." ?

> > Will it work on:  printf( "/* Not a Comment */" );
> 
> rem2
> sed 's/\(printf(.*".*\)\(\/\*\)\(.*\)\(\*\/\)\(.*);\)/\1AAAAA\3BBBBB\5/g'\
> |sed 's|/\*|\n&|g;s|*/|&\n|g' | sed '/\/\*/,/*\//d'\
> |sed 's/AAAAA/\/\*/g'|sed 's/BBBBB/\*\//g'

char s = "Not a \"/**/\" style Comment.";
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              .  878jad955pe6p0k10pf6ed1tdfhj0ka3v3@4ax.com
            .  p8e4h3$dbq$4@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--5.49am.Seattle.2018
        BenJacoby  kgWqC.4603$ob5.367@fx25.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--5.54am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  5f1067c1-e05a-4e03-aedb-1b1b092a2861@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--8.08am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m26 Top; 7.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.86.162,  Mar 17 {  7:25am, 2018 }:59^(PDT)  Wσʐɷ
      Dead Serious News.

> Police have charged Felicity Marmaduke with desecration of the dead and necrophilia.

This is Fake News, satire, from "Dead Serious News".
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          JohnGohde  d092a761-640a-4602-af7e-8ca1418bd8fa@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  b7864012-192e-473f-9f2a-6ca505736fa7@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.05am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  c49193ef-0953-4a8b-bba7-2783a0d88163@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--7.56am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m26 Top; 16 Minutes, GoogleG, 89.234.157.254,  Mar 17 {  7:17am, 2018 }:19^(PDT)  Wσʎэ
      Won't you show us your photo ?

> light damages the skin, that's why yo still look so young Jeff...

You're too kind; 建前, I'm sure.

Won't you show us your photo ?

Chris Okano ( a Japanese American ) is handsome; see:

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=LYvvAZnza6s
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              SteveCarroll  11338ec4-2f78-4c3a-93f9-b448d7035c94@googlegroups.com
            Owl  sz90b803.ah@rooftop.invalid
          ChrisAhlstrom  p8evgi$658$3@dont-email.me
        Owl  a0b803ab.jzi4@rooftop.invalid
      ChrisAhlstrom  p8g2pi$vfj$2@dont-email.me
    Owl  fa9b003a.ahbio3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.31am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m30 Cool; 11.2 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 16 {  6:21pm, 2018 }:45  WσDϐ
      printf( "/* Not a Comment */" ) ?

> Here's a sed method I found online that operates on multiline patterns
> for C comments and does basically what my vim macros above do:
>   sed 's|/\*|\n&|g;s|*/|&\n|g' | sed '/\/\*/,/*\//d'
> 
> It will strip the comments from the above C file.

Will it work on this:

   printf( "/* Not a Comment */" );

The RegEx version that I use in Visual Studio 2017:

  Docs.MicroSoft.COM/EN-US/VisualStudio/IDE/Using-Regular-eXpressions-in-Visual-Studio

Note: Lines are "\r\n" delimited.
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      JohnGohde  d092a761-640a-4602-af7e-8ca1418bd8fa@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  b7864012-192e-473f-9f2a-6ca505736fa7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--6.05am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m24 Top; 3.1 Hours, GoogleG, 212.47.246.21,  Mar 17 {  2:28am, 2018 }:24^(PDT)  WσɞЖ
      Cancer will kill John Gohde soon, I predict.

> > Moi Fixed Charging Port on Smartphone, himself.
> > Ooooh!  That makes Moi smarter than the average bear, smarter than even Stephen Hawking.
> > Certainly smarter than the COLA Tards.
> > All it took was Moi's superior intelligence.
> 
> You're a genius!

"Uppers" ( caffeine, cocaine, meth, adderall, and testosterone )
make us obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).
Also, they cause cancer.  Cancer will kill John Gohde soon, I predict.
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              .  so1gad1v7effeo2faftsefe6026gruupc3@4ax.com
            .  Tf0qC.86068$vP3.66988@fx15.iad
          .  878jad955pe6p0k10pf6ed1tdfhj0ka3v3@4ax.com
        .  p8e4h3$dbq$4@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--5.49am.Seattle.2018
    BenJacoby  kgWqC.4603$ob5.367@fx25.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--5.54am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m5 Dropped; 15.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds,  Mar 16 {  2: 1pm, 2018 }: 3^(-4)  Wςიȵ
      No one ( boy, girl, man or woman ) wants to fuck Gates or Bezos.

> the promotion of lesbianism under the guise of 'feminism".

10+ billion views tells us that _everyone_ ( boy, girl, man or woman )
is attracted to a cute young girl, such as Justin Bieber;
likewise, no one ( boy, girl, man or woman ) wants to fuck Gates or Bezos.
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              FabianRussell  6a2840c7-34a6-4651-b464-5b72f37e15c2@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  582104fd-a9a0-4470-8658-247c99bb636d@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  p8bf990292h@news1.newsguy.com
        SteveCarroll  fee640b3-1735-4db2-8057-0343200d2fea@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--8.23pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  23290897-3a07-41ce-a9bd-29e0b71f961b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--5.43am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m85 Cool; 16.5 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 16 {  1: 8pm, 2018 }:10^(PDT)  Wςяʂ
      Standards change with the wind; nothing is constant.

Standards change with the wind; nothing is constant.
When YouTube radically changed, because I moved to FireFox.56,
I simply ReWrote the CSS.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--1.55am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism
      Today's Bible.

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG" Alt="Today's Bible">
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.350dc6b339d8ee0499323d@news.altopia.com
            Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p81ptj$4h9$1@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.350e7afec26c0ae399325a@news.altopia.com
        pandora│pandora@peak_org  S-2dnQM069-DczvHnZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@scnresearch.com
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  hj1gadp0p2p479fjfuptohb3987qeqdcfa@4ax.com
    pandora│pandora@peak_org  QPidnRlETqVlhDXHnZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@scnresearch.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--6.42am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m8 Cool; 2.7 Days, Pan, Scnresearch.COM, 206.125.93.71,  Mar 13 { 11:35am, 2018 }:36^(-5)  Wπпპ
      Feminists are good, they stop us from OverBreeding.

> > Take THAT, you stupid feminist!
> 
> We've already won -- 
> yet you dinosaurs keep whining about it.  

I'm poor, like Captain Shit Bucket, but happier.

Feminists are good, they stop us from OverBreeding,
so we don't turn into Bangladesh.
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  so1gad1v7effeo2faftsefe6026gruupc3@4ax.com
            BenJacoby  Tf0qC.86068$vP3.66988@fx15.iad
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  878jad955pe6p0k10pf6ed1tdfhj0ka3v3@4ax.com
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p8e4h3$dbq$4@gioia.aioe.org
      Skeeter│skeet@invalid_invalid  0k5laddc0dfhtnq91fshkkv4a7d365mjp1@4ax.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p8e51e$dbq$6@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--5.59am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m92 Cool; 20.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {  8:55am, 2018 }:17^(-4)  WςdɅ
      Communism isn't a safe opiate.

> " In 2015, women earned 83% of what men earned, according to 
>   a Pew Research Center analysis of median hourly earnings of 
>   both full- and part-time U.S. workers."  -- PewResearch.ORG

Heroin and OxyContin were sold as safe opiates -- they aren't.
Likewise, communism is not a safe opiate.

Cuba is wrong.  North Korea is wrong.
Stop insisting that everyone "earns" the same income,
no matter his race, gender, age, competence, etc.

We _need_ losers, lots of them;
it's how we progress -- we select the best.
    
Stop pretending that we all need to drive Mercedes, 
dropping off kids for soccer practice.

Stop punishing sex workers and heroin addicts.
Stop saying:
    This ( my heavy hand ) is what you get, you degenerate.
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              Skeeter│skeet@invalid_invalid  qlsdadhds0pp1kbadv382kcl55h5g24mnr@4ax.com
            BenJacoby  pPCpC.156049$m03.48685@fx38.iad
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  so1gad1v7effeo2faftsefe6026gruupc3@4ax.com
        BenJacoby  Tf0qC.86068$vP3.66988@fx15.iad
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  878jad955pe6p0k10pf6ed1tdfhj0ka3v3@4ax.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p8e4h3$dbq$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--5.49am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  m92 Cool; 20.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {  8:46am, 2018 }:34^(-4)  WςbР
      Norway is a virtual/fake paradise for moms.

> Fathers can also take parental leave... if society and 
> labor laws support their doing so.  Which they do in places 
> like the Nordic countries that take equality seriously.

True, Norway is a virtual/fake paradise for moms.

Quoting Norway's "The Local":

  Birth rates of 2.1 per woman are needed to keep 
  population numbers constant.  In Norway, the figure is 
  now down to 1.71, having dropped every year since 2009.    
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              Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p87kfv$1h8k$1@gioia.aioe.org
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p88p2j$1gcr$2@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  F90qC.75557$MY2.65806@fx21.iad
        Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p8a778$9r2$2@dont-email.me
      Skeeter│skeet@invalid_invalid  r78iaddh33u10dn7jou6adeb8skgthrip0@4ax.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p8bg82$a1e$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--5.31am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 7  m92 Cool; 1.8 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 14 {  8:48am, 2018 }:11^(-4)  WρʞB
      Hug a loser, we need them.

> talentless hacks got there *purely* by string-pulling.
> How else do you explain Justin Bieber ?

YouTube.  Wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Justin_Bieber
10+ billion views, so far.  Millions of girls.
The little horn dogs give zero fucks to Gates and Bezos.

PseudoSocialists would toss out the baby ( the winners )
with the bath water ( the losers ).  Hug a loser, we need them.
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              FabianRussell  p8bdee01eio@news4.newsguy.com
            Owl  lkb00803a.huo3@rooftop.invalid
          FabianRussell  31cd5608-6735-4727-8b80-3320a202aa7e@googlegroups.com
        Owl  s0zb803.anou4@rooftop.invalid
      FabianRussell  a4cced5d-a81b-4879-83e3-c74077aaa77d@googlegroups.com
    Owl  szb0z8b803.anuo3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--9.17pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m29 Cool; 6 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 15 {   :54pm, 2018 }:33  WςɍX
      Kill a tree !

> > A line break, also called "newline," is designated in some
> > OSs as a carriage return character (0x13) and a form feed
> > character (0x0a).  In other OSs, like GNU/Linux, a line break
> > is designated by only a form feed character.
> 
> 10  \n  New Line    
> 13  \r  Carriage Return  ( Ding ! )   
> 11  \f  Form Feed ( New Page -- Kill a tree ! ) 

End of Line:

  13, 10  \r\n  PCs and Servers.
  13      \r    Macs
  10      \n    Unix Distros. 
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              FabianRussell  p849ok01pni@news4.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  a9f45fff-4e07-40c9-9183-0ac6445ede69@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  6a2840c7-34a6-4651-b464-5b72f37e15c2@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  582104fd-a9a0-4470-8658-247c99bb636d@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  p8bf990292h@news1.newsguy.com
    SteveCarroll  fee640b3-1735-4db2-8057-0343200d2fea@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--8.23pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.Lang.C++
    ╱ 13  m81 Cool; 1.4 Days, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 14 { 10:15am, 2018 }:  ^(PDT)  WρʬΕ
      My (FireFox.56) "Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT" mods YouTube.

> > Why such bloat?  two words: javascript and frameworks.
> > ( Both are the tools of the incompetent )
> 
> Yes, I've seen you try to use CSS. 
> You and JavaScript ?  I'll pass ;)

My (FireFox.56) "Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT" mods YouTube.
YouTube responds -very- differently to FireFox.42, wow !  different CSS.
FireFox.58 kills my extensions, so I can't use it.
 
@-moz-document
  regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps|https://www.youtube.com/watch)).*") {

  /*  "Position: unset" Destroys GoogleMaps, and YouTube's Fly·Out Menus.   */
  :not(#▲), ::Before, ::After { Position: unset !important;  } }

@-moz-document 
  regexp("^(?!(https?://[^.]*?.google.com/maps|https://www.surveymonkey.com)).*") {
..... }
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--5.50am.Seattle.2018
      JohnGohde  c45ffb12-99f2-468f-9b22-d24004dc2005@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  d82a4c7c-0e52-432f-87e0-aa6c86cf1e42@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--7.57pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.Lang.C++
    ╱ 14  m81 Cool; 9.5 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 15 {  9:23am, 2018 }: 3^(PDT)  Wςhн
      Open-News-Network.ORG

> > > "Open-News-Network.ORG" is CostFree; News5 is best.
> > 
> > UseNet is Dead, COLA Tards!
> > Jeff's Demented OffLine brain has Moi's condolences.
> 
> He's repeating his homepage here. 

I recently switched to OpenNews ( from "MB-Net.NET" );
so, likely, Your Royal Highnesses didn't know 
News5, News2, and News6 are best.

OpenNews is reading this, I think,
as they stopped accepting registrations.
         .......
Last 2 Years, I logged On/Off events, including the time 
( Seconds since 1970, UTC/GMT, 64 bit, Base360 encoded )
but the logs are also _human_ readable, as the Base360
encoding is just 4 glyphs ( e.g. "WςOɡ" ).

From the data ( Hours/Day Off Line ), 
I calculate the mean, median, and standard deviation.
I'm OffLine 9 to 14 Hours/Day.  Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

See "X.CPP" in "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP".

const wchar Digits[] = //  In code_point order, for binary search.
  L"0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
  L"ȴȵȶȷȸȹȺȻȼȽȾȿɀɁɄɅɌɍɐɑɒɓɔɕɖɗɘəɚɛɜɝɞɟɠɡɢɣɤɥɦɧɨɩɪɫɬɭɮɯɰɱɲɳɴɵɶɷɸɹɺɻɼɽɾɿʀʁʂ"
  L"ʃʄʅʆʇʈʉʊʋʌʍʎʏʐʑʒʓʔʕʖʗʘʙʚʛʜʝʞʟʠʡʢʣʤʥʦʧʨʩʪʫʬʭʮʯ"

  L"ΑΒΓΔΕΖΗΘΙΚΛΜΝΞΟΠΡΣΤΥΦΧΨΩαβγδεζηθικλμνξοπρςστυφχψω"
  L"ϐϑϒϓϕϖϗϘϙϚϛϜϝϞϟϠϡϰϱϲϳϴϵ϶ϷϸϹϺϻϼϽϾϿ"

  L"АБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯабвгдежзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя"
  L"აბგდევზთიკლმნოპჟრსტუფქღყშჩცძწჭხჯჰჱჲჳჴჵ";
const uint Base360 = ( sizeof Digits - 1 ) / szChr ;
const int  mxDigits = 9 ;  //  ln(2^64)/ln(360) + 2 = 

inline wchar NtoHex( int N ) { return Digits[ N % Base360 ] ;  }
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--5.50am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers, Comp.Lang.C++
      Last 2 Years, I've been OffLine from 9 to 14 Hours/Day.

Last 2 Years, I've been OffLine from 9 to 14 Hours/Day.
<A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG'>When I'm OffLine</A> (<A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM'>Text Version</A>).
The info is gathered when I toggle my monitor Off|On
( via a HotKey, assigned to a mouse button ).
Source code found at: <A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM'>X.HTM</A>.  Look for "KeepMonOff" in "X.CPP".

By the way, this is a good example of how dimensions simplify things.
X is days, Y is hours, and Z is years ( in tables ),
-- time by time by time, virtual dimensions !
             +-       +-       +-
Unless you enjoy random lags ( when will the post show up ? ),
Do NOT use a binary server to read Usenet.
For that, use INN servers; to wit:
  
  News5.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
  News2.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
  News6.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
          News.Individual.NET:119
  
  "Individual.NET" is 10 Euros per year.
  "OpenNews" is cost free ( News5, News2 and News6 are best ).
  Register at:  Open-News-Network.ORG/register
                Must translate from German; if Captcha fails, F5 refresh.
  
Do NOT post using an INN server, they'll ban you !
For that, use a binary server; to wit:
  
  News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119  or  usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 
  
  They won't censor you; they don't even keep the "Path:" line,
  so you can't be identified.  Their archive is over 15 years deep.
  $5 buys you 11 gigs, enough for several life times.
  If one is down ( very rare ), use the other one.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--8.18pm.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  2ffff102-9d30-4c18-abc7-6fb2345d392d@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.33pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  3fb1c3f2-4727-458d-8c2c-d9e43115d73a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--11.01pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  d8a0b87a-2d41-422a-8b35-7b749c9c4d08@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.57am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m68 Cool; 55.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 13 {  9:43am, 2018 }:44^(PDT)  WπЭɨ
      It's not clickable, but I don't care.

> > Standards, like Win10, are natural, not impossed.
> 
> LOL!

Give me one (1) good reason to use "%20" instead of ' ' in an <A> tag.
Note: it has to benefit -me-, as I see it, in a real way.

Outside of an <A> tag, I much prefer:

  "Google.COM/maps?q= 4547 19th Ave NE Seattle 98105"  over 
  "Google.COM/maps?q=4547+19th+Ave+NE+Seattle+98105"

Yes, it's not clickable, but I don't care.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--7.24pm.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  ff905a55-3158-463b-b7ff-a9e5bd7510c6@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--8.18pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  2ffff102-9d30-4c18-abc7-6fb2345d392d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.33pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  3fb1c3f2-4727-458d-8c2c-d9e43115d73a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--11.01pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Comp.Lang.C++
    +-, 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 12 {  9:39pm, 2018 }:22^(PDT)  Wπʦγ
      Standards, like Win10, are natural, not impossed.

> > > > "Google.COM/maps?q= 4547 19th Ave NE Seattle 98105" works,
> > > > spaces and all, no need for "%20" or '+';
> > > > and it's -preferable- because it's easier to read and write.
> > > 
> > > it's sheer pigheadedness, a religious war 
> > > against -IMPROPER- errors, warnings and specs.
> 
> You had nothing to do with writing the spec 
> so you have no standing to label anything "IMPROPER".

That's what she said.

> You'e entitled to ignore the parts of the specs you wish,
> but you're not entitled to your own set of facts.

Standards, like Win10, are natural, not impossed.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--5.37pm.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  984bdf4f-6530-4f3a-832a-aff7de807a90@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--7.24pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  ff905a55-3158-463b-b7ff-a9e5bd7510c6@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--8.18pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  2ffff102-9d30-4c18-abc7-6fb2345d392d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.33pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m66 Cool; 30.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 12 {  8:54pm, 2018 }:13^(PDT)  WπʟD
      Trying ( and failing ) to convince yourself.

> > You'll never convince me.
> > Are you trying to convince yourself ?
> > 
> > "Google.COM/maps?q= 4547 19th Ave NE Seattle 98105" works,
> > spaces and all, no need for "%20" or '+';
> > and it's -preferable- because it's easier to read and write.
> 
> it's sheer pigheadedness, a religious war 
> against -IMPROPER- errors, warnings and specs.

No, I'm as happy as a clam at high tide.
You're the unhappy one, "warring" against me,
trying ( and failing ) to convince yourself.
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              Owl  szb8030abahou4.3@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  d3c1d140-2d23-4765-9263-fcaf86d73bd8@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--5.37pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  984bdf4f-6530-4f3a-832a-aff7de807a90@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--7.24pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  ff905a55-3158-463b-b7ff-a9e5bd7510c6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--8.18pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 2.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 12 {  8: 3pm, 2018 }:47^(PDT)  Wπʖϒ
      Are you trying to convince yourself ?

I've asked you to drop the topic, but you can't.

You'll never convince me.
Are you trying to convince yourself ?

"Google.COM/maps?q= 4547 19th Ave NE Seattle 98105" works,
spaces and all, no need for "%20" or '+';
and it's -preferable- because it's easier to read and write.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
          Owl  szb8030abahou4.3@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  d3c1d140-2d23-4765-9263-fcaf86d73bd8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--5.37pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  984bdf4f-6530-4f3a-832a-aff7de807a90@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--7.24pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m64 Cool; 12.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 12 {  7: 5pm, 2018 }: 5^(PDT)  Wπʌп
      Take it up with ChrisV, if you need affirmations.

> > I'd glad your prefer "%20" over ' ';
> > my only regret is that you don't have to read Base64 Encoded URLs.
> > 
> > Never will you convince me that perfectly valid spaces in URLs are an "error";
> > so, please, stop trying ( instead, hang out with ChrisV, he thinks like you ).
> 
> I can tell you what an invalid URL is, seems to me you 
> should be able to tell me what an invalid space is if
> you're not just yanking my chain.

This is for -me- to know, not you.
Take it up with ChrisV, if you need affirmations.

> You said never will I convince you
> but I believe I already have, you just refuse to admit it.

Sure, that's it ( not ).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.03pm.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  21db7ca2-9f79-496b-9d14-e412d8de4fac@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
      Owl  szb8030abahou4.3@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  d3c1d140-2d23-4765-9263-fcaf86d73bd8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--5.37pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m62 Cool; 3.8 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 12 { 11:35am, 2018 }:40^(PDT)  Wπȷტ
      YouTube's markup completely changed.

> WikiPedia's "Main Page" started with HTML 4.01 Transitional:
> web.archive.org/web/20021130190725/http://www.wikipedia.org
> 
> I saw XHTML 1.0 transitional up until Sept. of 2012:  imgur.com/a/dZ092
> 
> That changed to HTML 5 in Oct. of 2012 
> (which is earlier than the 'official' release date by about 2 years):
> imgur.com/a/4gmRr

Nice work there, Mr. Carroll, thanks.
Recently, after I changed my UserAgent to "Firefox/56.0",
YouTube's markup completely changed.

Now I see tags like <yt-icon>, <yt-formatted-string>
and <ytd-promoted-video-renderer> ( for ads/promotions ).

By the way, I'd glad your prefer "%20" over ' ';
my only regret is that you don't have to read Base64 Encoded URLs.

Never will you convince me that perfectly valid spaces in URLs are an "error";
so, please, stop trying ( instead, hang out with ChrisV, he thinks like you ).
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              .  4_CoC.245643$KA7.30866@fx05.iad
            .  p7vhvo$8t8$1@gioia.aioe.org
          .  MPG.350e636010a0c45699324e@news.altopia.com
        .  p83mtf$13ie$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.23am.Seattle.2018
    Ser_Gregor_Clegane│sergregor  qgbbad50530n14nn42ogoqv3ce916ki4qs@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--5.16pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 6.7 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Mar 12 {  8:44am, 2018 }:13^(-4)  Wπbʅ
      RealLife(tm) is more random than your ramblings.

> > Only (eu)capitalism ( where the market is free to chose )
> > can prevent dictators and stagnation.
> 
> What have you been smoking, Relf?

HandRolled cigs.

> An armed citizenry, as guaranteed by the Second Amendment,
> can and does prevent dictators and stagnation.

The Second Amendment asks for a "Well Regulated Militia",
not horny meth addicts, at BurningMan, with Uzis.

> > "What we chose" (consumption) has been programmed into us ( by nature ).
> > There are three ways to do it:
> > 
> >   1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast.
> >   2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume more later ).
> >   3. Sacrifice yourself so others can consume more.
> 
> What about 4) Kill others and consume what was theirs.

No, Not if it doesn't benefit the tribe, as a whole;
we ( most of us ) weren't programmed that way.

> That's what dictators and socialism is all about.

Dictators get rich by appealing to our desire to
" Live Slow, Die Later ( consume more later ) ".
"kensi" thinks this way.

> > Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume.
> > We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options;
> > we neither know nor control our future.
> 
> Bullshit, Relf!  We ( homeless folk ) control our future,
> we're not blithering idiots.

Sorry, but RealLife(tm) is more random than your ramblings.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--4.43pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  127e859d-eead-4713-b3e9-40ebced0af87@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--6.54pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  700eef95-b0a6-4810-9851-70b30849edd9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.11pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m60 Cool; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 11 {  8: 9pm, 2018 }:27^(PDT)  WοНθ
      Your "error" isn't an error.

> browsers put %20 in place of the spaces, this is not in question.
> Watch Safari, Firefox and Chrome:  streamable.com/o0xa1

I know what happens when you copy the link ( as shown in the video );
I don't agree with it, as I said, but I know about it.

Like I said, the "%20" tokens become spaces when you PASTE the link
into FireFox's AddressBar.   You keep ignoring/clipping this.
This is the proper way to do it, so it's -HUMAN- readable.

> > I type spaces into the AddressBar, and they stay there, UnMolested.
> > It works, spaces work, Validator.w3.ORG's SoCalled "errors" aren't.
> 
> They don't, if they did the browser wouldn't need to convert the space character, 
> yet, we can see that's what they're *all* doing. 

I type in a link with spaces, hit return and the page comes up.

  Google.COM/search?q= "Jeff-Relf.ME" | "Jeff Relf"

It works.  In the real world -- not in your head -- it works.
What kind of an "Error" could this be, when everything works fine ? !
What's going on in the background, technically, doesn't concern me.

> > Google Maps got it wrong, FireFox and Google Search got it right.
> 
> "Google Search" as seen in what browser, Firefox? 
> Gee, what a surprise ;)

No surprise, FireFox and Google Search got it right;
meanwhile, you and w3 didn't, My Lord.   Your "error" isn't an error.

> > Sometimes, SoCalled "errors" aren't errors; see:
> >
> >    Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
> 
> This is simple markup, there are some huge differences 
> between it and a programming language.

You and ChrisV think so, I don't.   You're on his level, not mine.
Too often, a SoCalled "error" isn't.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.03pm.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  21db7ca2-9f79-496b-9d14-e412d8de4fac@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--4.43pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  127e859d-eead-4713-b3e9-40ebced0af87@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--6.54pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Comp.Lang.C++
    ╱ 1  m59 Cool; 7.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 11 {  6: 6pm, 2018 }:54^(PDT)  WοϹs
      Sometimes, SoCalled "errors" aren't errors.

> > > > 'google.com/search?q= "Jeff-Relf.ME" | "Jeff Relf"'
> > > 
> > > The query won't work as you've written it
> > 
> > Works for me, FireFox and Chrome, Win10.
> 
> After it's fixed, sure ;)

NoOne, Nothing is "fixing" (borking) it ( the link above ).
I see the spaces there, all the time, in FireFox's AddressBar.

I type spaces into the AddressBar, and they stay there, UnMolested.
It works, spaces work, Validator.w3.ORG's SoCalled "errors" aren't.
Spaces ( in the AddressBar ) are human readable.

> > Wisely, FireFox keeps the spaces, no replacements.
> 
> No, it doesn't.  Try copying that URL and pasting it

Yeah, that's -fucked- up... it's a bug.
But, after hitting return, all the "%20" tokens become spaces again.
Not in Chrome, but in FireFox... Chrome got it wrong.

> And if you wait a few seconds you'll see it changed to this anyway:
> google.com/maps/place/4547+19th+Ave+NE,+Seattle,+WA+98105

That's Google Maps; not FireFox, not Chrome, nor Google Search.
Google Maps got it wrong, FireFox and Google Search got it right.

> > Spaces ( in the AddressBar ) are human readable;
> 
> Dude, it's an href attribute value ;)

Sometimes, SoCalled "errors" aren't errors; see:

  <A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM'>C++ Coding Rules</A>

> > the links work, so Validator.w3.ORG's SoCalled "errors" aren't.
> 
> No, they're actually real errors
> 
> If you want to sit there injecting counterfeit testosterone from China
> because it better enables you to remain obstinate I won't stop you ;)

If I may be so bold, My Lord, you are wrong ( others got it right ).
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              EdProchak  f098d1bc-3d5d-469f-914a-b44a561a6e1c@googlegroups.com
            JamesMcGinn  d9628528-5b5a-4034-b0bd-456318964210@googlegroups.com
          pnalsing@gmail_com  0fafc51c-bf90-436c-9fd9-9452a008e174@googlegroups.com
        JamesMcGinn  0b7fad71-f925-4dc8-89c5-772a257ab72d@googlegroups.com
      pnalsing@gmail_com  4bee7b18-d368-4acd-b13d-2f3c2965a5bd@googlegroups.com
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p84e62$df4$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--6.10pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m49 Shifty; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 11 {  4:30pm, 2018 }:12^(-5)  WοϛC
      Counterfeit testosterone, from China.

> What's up with James McGinn ?
> McGinn posts lies and nonsense in here and expects respect ?
> Survey, which describes JM best ?  select 2 or more;
> 
> 1. moron,
> 2. idiot,
> 3. retard,
> 4. dumbfuck

I think he's injecting counterfeit testosterone, from China.

  "Uppers" ( caffeine, cocaine, meth, adderall, and testosterone )
  make us obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

  "Do you believe in God" is a euphemism for "Do you believe in me".
  "God is Great" is a euphemism for "I am Great".
  "God hates fags" is a euphemism for "I hate fags".

  God is obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).
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              SteveCarroll  21db7ca2-9f79-496b-9d14-e412d8de4fac@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
          SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  28a1590e-6d53-464a-9255-07d2ea6e97eb@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  p849ok01pni@news4.newsguy.com
    SteveCarroll  a9f45fff-4e07-40c9-9183-0ac6445ede69@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--5.51pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m58 Cool; 27.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 11 {  4:46pm, 2018 }: 9^(PDT)  WοϝϷ
      Counterfeit testosterone, from China.

> LOL! Why are you [ Fabian Russell ] suggesting something 
> no one but you ever said?
> Still playing for crackhead's slot, eh ;)

I think he's injecting counterfeit testosterone, from China.

> > HTML5 merely adds some new capabilities to HTML 4.01,
> 
> Yeah, "merely" <eyeroll>, like the parsing spec 
> you're obviously clueless about. 

As I recall, the HTML5 parser is way better than older versions;
fewer erroneous errors/warnings.
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              SteveCarroll  b5c4c3bd-9d7e-4236-b591-7c924fa05ad4@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.03pm.Seattle.2018
          SteveCarroll  21db7ca2-9f79-496b-9d14-e412d8de4fac@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
      SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
    Owl  szb8030abahou4.3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--5.08pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m26 Cool; 1.8 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 11 {  2:33pm, 2018 }:55  Wοπϛ
      < !DOCTYPE HTML >

> > > You said HTML 4 is dying off... how does one know ?
> > 
> > Can't know with any degree of certainty but you can use common sense. 
> 
> According to w3.org, <!DOCTYPE HTML> is for "HTML5 and beyond,"

Thanks Owl, you gave the answer I was looking for.
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              FabianRussell  p81ors0u9n@news1.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  b5c4c3bd-9d7e-4236-b591-7c924fa05ad4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.03pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  21db7ca2-9f79-496b-9d14-e412d8de4fac@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  b432ca41-d798-4334-95c3-a305af15a000@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--4.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m57 Cool; 2.5 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 11 {   :47pm, 2018 }:17^(PDT)  WοΧы
      Spaces ( in the source ) are more human readable.

> You can use the plus symbol [ instead of spaces ].

No thanks.  The "errors" are erroneous, as I said.
Spaces are easier to read ( when looking at the source ) and they work fine.

> You'll note that Google pops it in there anyway. 

Sadly, yes, GoogleMaps does that, but it shouldn't;
Google (Search) doesn't do that.

> I 'd suppose you can use this for your map link, as well:
> maps?q=4547U+002019thU+0020AveU+0020NEU+0020SeattleU+002098105

No thanks, that's -much- worse.
Also, what happened to your '%' symbols ?

> Google's query won't work as you've written

Works for me, FireFox and Chrome, Win10.

> > 'google.com/search?q= "Jeff-Relf.ME" | "Jeff Relf" &tbs=qdr:m3&filter=0'
> 
> take a look at what a browser does to it:
> https://imgur.com/a/XzsnS

The link works fine, it's not "erroneous".

What is your complaint ?
You don't like what Chrome does to it, in the address bar ?
Wisely, FireFox keeps the spaces, no replacements.

> It seems like your beef is that you want some kind of control.
> But what are you actually controlling here?

Spaces ( in the source ) are more human readable;
the links work, so Validator.w3.ORG's "errors" are erroneous.

> > You said HTML 4 is dying off... how does one know ?
> 
> Can't know with any degree of certainty but you can use common sense. 

"common sense" isn't data; nevertheless, I think you're right.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--2.03pm.Seattle.2018
            SteveCarroll  7fd6f140-51fa-4ac8-90fe-3f3dd6eb55b4@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  p81ors0u9n@news1.newsguy.com
        SteveCarroll  b5c4c3bd-9d7e-4236-b591-7c924fa05ad4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.03pm.Seattle.2018
    SteveCarroll  21db7ca2-9f79-496b-9d14-e412d8de4fac@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.17am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m55 Cool; 18.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 11 { 10:49am, 2018 }:32^(PDT)  WοΓɜ
      I don't like (erroneous) warnings/errors.

> Fix the 2 query strings and you'll get no errors/warnings. 
> One way (that I'm sure you're already aware of) is to put 
> %20 in place of the spaces.

God -No-, Never !
This, you see, is why I don't like (erroneous) warnings/errors.

> > What version of HTML is WikiPedia using ?
> 
> That I've seen it's generally HTML5 
> but I don't know about older stuff. Why?

You said HTML 4 is dying off... how does one know ?
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              BenJacoby  vaMoC.177502$9%2.53452@fx36.iad
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p80smi$bdk$2@gioia.aioe.org
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.350dc6b339d8ee0499323d@news.altopia.com
        Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p81ptj$4h9$1@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.350e7afec26c0ae399325a@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p83omf$17ac$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--11.05am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m81 Cool; 3.1 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 11 { 10:23am, 2018 }:26^(-4)  Wοʭე
      Don't drink the "caffeine/testosterone".

From: EveryDayFeminism.COM/2016/02/160-eXamples-Of-Male-Privilege/

> 1. Males dominate conversations without being judged.

These men are judged by you ("kensi") and me.
Male or Female, drugs ( caffeine, cocaine, meth, adderall, testosterone )
make us obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

> 166. Sacred and religious figures and deities like the Christian God
> are usually portrayed as males.

"Do you believe in God" is a euphemism for "Do you believe in me".
"God is Great" is a euphemism for "I am Great".
"God hates fags" is a euphemism for "I hate fags".

God is obnoxious and arrogant ( "Bow Down before me, you worm", style ).

> 167. You can practice a religion that centers around your gender 
> without facing harassment and backlash.  For instance, women-centered sects
> of Paganism and Wicca sometimes have to deal with misogyny.

No, there is a backlash, as you demonstrate here and now.
It's wrong, don't do it, don't drink the "caffeine/testosterone".
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            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p7u5n8$1v5h$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  4_CoC.245643$KA7.30866@fx05.iad
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p7vhvo$8t8$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.350e636010a0c45699324e@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p83mtf$13ie$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--10.23am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m80 Cool; 2.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 11 {  9:53am, 2018 }: 2^(-4)  Wοʨм
      Under (pseudo)socialism, the house wins and everyone else loses.

> socialism is superior when the economy is barely or not growing,

Under (pseudo)socialism, the house wins[*] and everyone else loses.
[ *: JongUn Kim, Castro, Lenin, Pol Pot style ]

Only (eu)capitalism ( where the market is free to chose )
can prevent dictators and stagnation.

"What we chose" (consumption) has been programmed into us ( by nature ).
There are three ways to do it:

  1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast.
  2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume more later ).
  3. Sacrifice yourself so others can consume more.

Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume.
We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options;
we neither know nor control our future.
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              Arindam_Banerjee│  728beb19-d66c-41fc-9c81-901c22361c37@googlegroups.com
            JamesMcGinn  803af789-aa65-4a57-ab75-122f28eaf983@googlegroups.com
          Arindam_Banerjee│  9fa280da-9c3c-48fc-9dc6-163a5870ca57@googlegroups.com
        JamesMcGinn  b4a08765-2af7-4356-abf5-904dc6fe74bd@googlegroups.com
      Arindam_Banerjee│  26e2427b-1b54-4a78-a79e-c79cd05d90c3@googlegroups.com
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  p82la7$1e4o$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.11--0.21am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m45 Shifty; 41.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 10 { 11:19pm, 2018 }:36^(-6)  Wοȿɠ
      James McGinn has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

> <snip McGinn crap>   McGinn has always been wrong on this,
> and most everything else in science;
> he's an uneducated, 2nd class person.

James McGinn has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

WikiPedia says:

  Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is characterized by:

         1. exaggerated feelings of self-importance      [ I am God ],
         2. an excessive need for admiration             [ Worship me ],
    and  3. a lack of understanding of others' feelings  [ Or die ].

  The condition needs to be differentiated
  from mania and substance abuse disorders
  [ coffee, cocaine, meth, adderall, testosterone ].

  Therapy is often difficult as people with the disorder
  frequently do not consider themselves to have a problem.
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              FabianRussell  957468b5-52ab-440c-92a7-32acc94b949f@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  a4932ea0-16da-4930-ac21-bbb59dbc3419@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--2.03pm.Seattle.2018
        SteveCarroll  7fd6f140-51fa-4ac8-90fe-3f3dd6eb55b4@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  p81ors0u9n@news1.newsguy.com
    SteveCarroll  b5c4c3bd-9d7e-4236-b591-7c924fa05ad4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--6.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m52 Cool; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar 10 {  4:  pm, 2018 }:28^(PST)  Wο0S
      I'm not a fan of warnings, errors and such ( testing is best ).

> it pays to at least make an attempt to have your doc validate.

I'm not a fan of warnings, errors and such ( testing is best );
NeverTheLess, my website (Jeff-Relf.Me) now begins:

  <!DOCTYPE HTML><Head><Title>Jeff Relf's "Useful", Truthy Memes</Title>
  </Head><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>

What version of HTML is WikiPedia using ?
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              FabianRussell  p7tp3g0rup@news2.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  a41cfd22-4685-425a-8e81-80dc50e5a7fb@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  38f26bcd-4cd7-4965-bda8-9782aecfe6ab@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  00967f84-9f8c-4ac5-bd8d-76844b118f43@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  957468b5-52ab-440c-92a7-32acc94b949f@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  a4932ea0-16da-4930-ac21-bbb59dbc3419@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--2.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 7  m49 Cool; 23.4 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar  9 {  1:46pm, 2018 }:16^(PST)  WξɡϾ
      What version of HTML is WikiPedia using ?

> > There are currently BILLIONS of web sites that are in 4.01 format
> 
> Prove it.  Of course there are legacy pages, fool, but
> how many of them were 5+ years old when they were created ? 

What version of HTML is WikiPedia using ?
WikiPedia pages begin:

  <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html class="client-nojs" lang="en" dir="ltr">
      <head>
        <meta charset="UTF-8"/>

My website (Jeff-Relf.Me) begins:

  <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
  <Title>Jeff Relf's "Useful", Truthy Memes</Title>
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              FabianRussell  p7sdjm09e3@news2.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  aaf45bc9-bf7d-4355-87e7-d294f860db8d@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  p7tp3g0rup@news2.newsguy.com
        SteveCarroll  a41cfd22-4685-425a-8e81-80dc50e5a7fb@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  38f26bcd-4cd7-4965-bda8-9782aecfe6ab@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  00967f84-9f8c-4ac5-bd8d-76844b118f43@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.10--1.45pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 8  m49 Cool; 24 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Mar  9 {  1: 9pm, 2018 }:22^(PST)  Wξɛγ
      Narcissistic Personality Disorder: see Fabian Russell and Michael Glasser.

> C'mon, Feeb... don't keep being a Snit in the face of concrete proof,
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              JamesMcGinn  c9710aa4-53f5-448b-94b8-5a3e735a9bd6@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7os97$u7i$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JamesMcGinn  41175319-456e-4e0f-b8f7-b30b809f472e@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7ps9m$plk$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JamesMcGinn  b1591911-4a1d-485b-b7d6-05119262732d@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7rgl3$1def$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--1.27pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m224 Mad; 6.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  8 {  6:17am, 2018 }: 7  Wνʎс
      We don't live in the perfectly ordered world you're selling.

> > Would any of you geniuses like to explain how gaseous H2O
> > magically defies its known boiling temperature/pressure.

We don't live in the perfectly ordered world you're selling.
Entropy ( ThermoDymanics ) is statistical, SemiRandom.

Every SnakeOil salesman denies entropy,
and James McGinn is no exception.

Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington wrote: ＜＜

    If someone points out to you that
    your pet theory of the universe is
    in disagreement with Maxwell's equations --
    then, so much the worse for Maxwell's equations.
    
    If it is found to be contradicted by observers --
    well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.
    
    But, if your theory is found to be
    against the second law of thermodynamics,
    I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but
    to collapse in deepest humiliation.  ＞＞

    -- From "The Nature of the Physical World", 1915, chapter 4.

Google "Heat Death of the Universe" and you get: ＜＜

    The heat death of the universe is a plausible 
    ultimate fate of the universe in which the universe 
    has diminished to a state of no thermodynamic free 
    energy and therefore can no longer sustain processes 
    that increase entropy ( including computation and life ).  ＞＞
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              JamesMcGinn  e7b9b69c-922e-4336-a94a-27b488ab1a45@googlegroups.com
            Steve_BH│sbharris@gmail_com  95d1816f-ec32-4bf0-9ebd-870c2e98b142@googlegroups.com
          JamesMcGinn  d0cedae6-b277-4b1b-a3d8-ccfed8610d6c@googlegroups.com
        Steve_BH│sbharris@gmail_com  5521212b-d92e-4f88-8ab5-6734bf3b1097@googlegroups.com
      JamesMcGinn  76b38e73-0233-4541-a58c-8148e3d2f688@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  fd721e11-74b4-427b-a053-6af9b33d0ab0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.8--1.13pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m96 Top; 6.5 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Mar  8 {  6:23am, 2018 }:18^(PST)  Wνʏь
      James McGinn only listens to ayahuasca shaman, no one else.

> > > No, YOU don't get it.
> > 
> > I'm a physicist and an expert on H2O.  Trust me, I get it.
> 
> James McGinn has been trying to claim he is a physicist,
> but lacks any degree whatsoever. I have begun to wonder
> if he even graduated from high school.

James McGinn only listens to ayahuasca shaman, no one else.
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              JamesMcGinn  f925665a-3f71-4209-8ced-bca4943c16f7@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7jmvu$eb4$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JamesMcGinn  1ea3a8f4-494c-41c2-b797-a7f84ab06083@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7jqic$l3r$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JamesMcGinn  9b5e8dcc-58c6-401c-97c0-015f165fefea@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7jt95$qcl$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--9.24am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m230 Mad; 10.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  5 {  9: 3am, 2018 }:33  Wλʪξ
      No one would -dare- to compare James McGinn to others.

> > > No one owes you an education or to correct your ignorance,
> > > even if you cheep loudly like a helpless, featherless baby bird. 
> > 
> > YOU GOT NOTHING!!!
> > 
> > YOU GOT NOTHING!!!
> 
> Isn’t it funny how your overworked phrase sounds so much like
> the cheep of a helpless, featherless baby bird?

He wants us to feed his ego,
as if he were so damn smart that 
no one would -dare- to compare him to others.
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              .  e54f32bb-66f6-40b9-b46a-75a4b55efbd8@googlegroups.com
            Lofty_Goat│rlwatkins@gmail_com  9lqo9dhvn76n94fm2ms12nfdv26qdenkhf@4ax.com
          JamesMcGinn  5ac2a53a-12be-48bf-97e7-e4d13ae3b953@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7hvmj$1oaf$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JamesMcGinn  f925665a-3f71-4209-8ced-bca4943c16f7@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p7jmvu$eb4$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--9.12am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m229 Mad; 55.4 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  5 {  7:16am, 2018 }:15  WλʘϽ
      Thanks for driving the short bus, Mr. Odd.

> > I wouldn't pretend to compete with your imagination.
> 
> Data, not imagination. I know the above is wasted on you, 
> because you are mentally ill.  But facts are facts, 
> regardless of the fantasy world you have constructed. 

Thanks for driving the short bus, Mr. Odd, someone has to do it.
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          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p7gnpn$1j23$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  4v6o9d592l9gqv7cro3tmj42hmcjnbl9q3@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--9.45am.Seattle.2018
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p7jh0f$2rg$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--8.43am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m66 Cool; 2.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  5 {  5:34am, 2018 }: 6^(-5)  Wλʇϴ
      What's the difference between "kensi" and an insurance salesman ?

> > "kensi" is an insurance salesman;
> 
> Erm, nope.  I'm not even an insurance saleswoman.

What's the difference between you and an insurance salesman ?
( besides your tiny clit, size does -not- matter )

Everyone is a (biased) advocate of one thing or other.
(Biased) Premises only need be useful, not truthy.

> > she wants all 8 billion of us to be baby-popping "winners".
> 
> No, I think humanity desperately needs to curtail birthrates
> or we're likely to suffer a Malthusian crash.

Then accept us "losers"; stop pretending that we all need 
to drive Mercedes, dropping kids off for soccer practice.

Stop insisting that everyone "earns" the same income,
no matter his race, gender, age, competence, etc.
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      BenJacoby  YTDmC.99937$4_2.14259@fx35.iad
    Lofty_Goat│rlwatkins@gmail_com  o8po9dhp3cik2g7nv4anfilvi3lga0eqvg@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--3.57pm.Seattle.2018
  Talk.Politics.Guns, TX.Guns, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m31 Cool; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, Giganews.COM,  Mar  4 {  2: 4pm, 2018 }:21^(-6)  WκტГ
Wikipedia -must- suppress the crap.

> Wikipedia doesn't engage in "censorship".

" Censorship is the suppression of speech ", according to Wikipedia;
to get such a beautiful product, Wikipedia -must- suppress the crap.

Usenet, on the other hand, is a free for all.
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      HerbertGlazier  5e8081d9-cd49-4e30-80df-fb625a03e63e@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  0181b325-b754-45e7-ad50-d81c89da7da7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--3.42pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m44 Top; 17 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar  4 {  3:21pm, 2018 }: 3^(PST)  WκჯΘ
      Microbes need water; not ice, not steam, water.

> Some think that microbes first evolved in interstellar gas.

Microbes need water; not ice, not steam, water.

  PlanckTime limits what we can know about 
  the first moments of our itty bitty cosmos.

  No -ideal- black hole event horizon exists because, if it could, 
  it'd have ZERO entropy and INFINITE "eXergy"
  ( energy that can do physical work ).

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
  now add a little "gravity&eXergy", so it fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (true) black hole back then ]
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              mrjdawe@gmail_com  23c80111-d61c-4955-8265-b74ad41dcb26@googlegroups.com
            JimPennino  2cjpme-jkk.ln1@mail.specsol.com
          JohnSefton  469d657c-22da-4f5b-bcd8-633d093ddb44@googlegroups.com
        JohnSefton  3e5ff1fc-c4bd-4224-a5a5-cee44f65676b@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  426ebff8-2814-48f7-8e33-1dbf9a142a16@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  dda4b5ae-19c5-44ad-8031-839de1e04730@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--3.37pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m41 Top; 1.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar  4 {  3:16pm, 2018 }:42^(PST)  WκხШ
      We're lucky to understand anything, much less everything.

> You think a formal proof of the impossibility of a TOE is possible?

We're lucky to understand anything, much less everything.
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              Libor_Striz│poutnik4REMOVEnntp  p71b8k$a8v$1@dont-email.me
            EdProchak  ce1caf79-49c3-4e26-9233-43fb7767040c@googlegroups.com
          JohnSefton  0d51affa-5813-4543-bc76-3e4ff42b79b3@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  69c56bf8-0e1f-4a0a-9513-f61d04dfaac4@googlegroups.com
      JohnSefton  fb5dcd3c-ffdc-42ef-90f8-428e943ce72d@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  d238b8cc-7fea-469d-a148-039fbcbf7b12@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--3.27pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m41 Top; 18 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar  4 {  3:  pm, 2018 }: 9^(PST)  Wκწ9
      Evading the cops isn't the same as changing the law.

> "Scientists -EVADE- the Heisenberg uncertainty principle"
> Phys.ORG/news/2017-03-scientists-evade-heisenberg-uncertainty-principle.html

Evading the cops isn't the same as changing the law.
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      kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p7gnpn$1j23$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  4v6o9d592l9gqv7cro3tmj42hmcjnbl9q3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--9.45am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m79 Cool; 3.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Mar  4 {  9:21am, 2018 }:38^(-5)  Wκгσ
      "kensi" is an insurance salesman.

> > a horrifying and deadly new normal.
> 
> Why do you warmingtards ignore the population explosion factor

"kensi" is an insurance salesman; 
she wants all 8 billion of us to be baby-popping "winners".
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              TakuyaSaitoh  4434c2e1-5b0c-4d83-8d37-b0fc889ad925@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--0.58pm.Seattle.2018
          TakuyaSaitoh  36ce359f-f41e-451c-b39c-556f6de35641@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--6.36am.Seattle.2018
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--6.50am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  bc341e70-41cb-45e9-a4e1-ed831bd950e4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.31am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m24 Top; 9.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 142.44.154.169,  Mar  3 {  9: 7am, 2018 }:26^(PST)  Wκpɖ
      "Spring Break, Lake Powell" by NubilesUnScripted.

> > > > > Katarina Hartlova:  Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYo.Boobs.Front.JPG
> > When the photo was taken, Katarina was 32 years old, "married with kids".
> > InstaGram.COM/KaterinaHartlova69/
> 
> Huge boobs and almost no arm muscle, a prescription for disaster
> later in life....  End like the Sumo wrestlers.

If JapStyleBoobs are your thing ( John Gohde ), check out:

  "Spring Break, Lake Powell" by NubilesUnScripted, Feb 23, 2018,
  with Piper Perri and Haley Reed.  
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              Sylvia_Else│sylvia@not_at_this_  ffp7smFs2qrU2@mid.individual.net
            JohnGohde  8d55b35d-378e-4a04-b5ec-ca1fb857b958@googlegroups.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  4434c2e1-5b0c-4d83-8d37-b0fc889ad925@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--0.58pm.Seattle.2018
      TakuyaSaitoh  36ce359f-f41e-451c-b39c-556f6de35641@googlegroups.com
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--6.36am.Seattle.2018
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--6.50am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m34 Top; 2.6 Minutes, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar  3 {  6:36am, 2018 }:57^(Seattle)  WκQv
      32 years old, "married with kids".

> > > Katarina Hartlova:  Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYo.Boobs.Front.JPG
> > 
> > How will she look at the age of 40, 50, 60 ?
> > It's disposable goods, lasting just a very short time after puberty.
> 
> There's more to life than being fuckable;
> you, me and Bill Gates aren't fuckable.

When the photo was taken, Katarina was 32 years old, "married with kids".

InstaGram.COM/KaterinaHartlova69/
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--6.35pm.Seattle.2018
            Sylvia_Else│sylvia@not_at_this_  ffp7smFs2qrU2@mid.individual.net
          JohnGohde  8d55b35d-378e-4a04-b5ec-ca1fb857b958@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  4434c2e1-5b0c-4d83-8d37-b0fc889ad925@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--0.58pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  36ce359f-f41e-451c-b39c-556f6de35641@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--6.36am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m22 Top; 9.3 Hours, GoogleG, 193.15.16.4,  Mar  2 {  8:44pm, 2018 }:41^(PST)  WιЭʡ
      We -need- losers, lots of them.

> > Katarina Hartlova:  Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYo.Boobs.Front.JPG
> 
> How will she look at the age of 40, 50, 60 ?
> It's disposable goods, lasting just a very short time after puberty.

There's more to life than being fuckable;
you, me and Bill Gates aren't fuckable.

We -need- losers, lots of them;
it's how we progress, we select the best.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--6.35pm.Seattle.2018
        Sylvia_Else│sylvia@not_at_this_  ffp7smFs2qrU2@mid.individual.net
      JohnGohde  8d55b35d-378e-4a04-b5ec-ca1fb857b958@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  4434c2e1-5b0c-4d83-8d37-b0fc889ad925@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--0.58pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m20 Top; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 65.19.167.131,  Mar  2 {  8:38am, 2018 }:45^(PST)  Wιʦʥ
      YoYo Boobs.

> Hey Jack, Jeff looks far more preserved than you, 
> he lives in the dark and the brightest thing he sees is lanky boobs.  
> Melatonin beats VitD3 when it comes to aging, who would have thought?

The sun has aged him.

YoYo Boobs ( Katarina Hartlova ):

  Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYo.Boobs.Front.JPG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYo.Boobs.Side.JPG
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--6.35pm.Seattle.2018
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@not_at_this_  ffp7smFs2qrU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--7.05pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m1 Dropped; 10.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Feb 28 {  6:46pm, 2018 }:46^(11)  WθʓЬ
      When my monitor is off for 4 hours or more, last 2 years.

When my monitor is off for 4 hours or more, last 2 years:

   Screenshot <Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG>   
   Text version ( 372 columns wide ! ) <Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM>.

> > When my monitor is off for 4 hours or more, last 2 years:
> > 
> >    Screenshot <Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG>   
> >    Text version ( 372 columns wide ! ) <Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM>.
> > 
> > My waking hours are so random, I need this info,
> > to predict how many hours might be left in my "day".
> 
> Rather than being random it looks like you're just following your own 
> circadian rhythm instead of being a slave to the solar day.

It's SemiRandom; I might wake up anytime, as needed.
I tend to sleep longer after losing sleep for a day or two.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--6.35pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      When my monitor is off for 4 hours or more, last 2 years.

When my monitor is off for 4 hours or more, last 2 years:

  <A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG'>Screenshot</A>  <A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM'>Text version ( 372 columns wide ! )</A>.

My waking hours are so random, I need this info, 
to predict how many hours might be left in my "day".

The info is gathered when I toggle my monitor Off&On
( via a HotKey, assigned to a mouse button ).

Source code found at: <A hRef='http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM'>X.HTM</A>.  Look for "KeepMonOff" in "X.CPP".
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--10.01am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      We -need- losers, lots of them.

We -need- losers, lots of them;
it's how we progress, we select the best.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.27--4.57pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Wealth can damage your health.

  Wealth can damage your health.
  Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, loved being a high roller;
  once it came to an end, as it had to, he couldn't handle it.

  Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.

  Wealthy Seattle has 12k homeless kids and rampant street drugs.
  They're so damn wealthy, like rock stars, they die at 27;
  they don't have to work and they spend thousand$$ per month on drugs.

  Many white males don't fit into the system because they don't want to.
  Increasingly, women too.  Propaganda doesn't work, we see though it.
  The solution: better pain management, and expectations management.
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      kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p73ar9$16fd$1@gioia.aioe.org
    max_headroom│maximusheadroom  p7419m$4ac$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.27--9.18am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m20 Cool; 1.1 Hours, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG,  Feb 27 {  7:49am, 2018 }: 7^(-8)  Wηʞȹ
      Change happens, get used to it.

> > climate change will decimate Antarctica species.

Change happens, get used to it.
When a species vacates a nitch, another takes its place.

Humanity is a flash in the pan.
If you can't feel death, then you can't feel life either.
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    Simon_Roberts│retenshun@gmail_  8e41f586-b25f-4f5b-93b5-67712c0b31ee@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--5.41pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m7 Cool; 15.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 67.249.213.121,  Feb 24 {  5: 4pm, 2018 }:32^(PST)  WεϸО
      A crank is a snake oil salesman.

> 1.) Am I a crank? (simple yes or no) 

No because you're not selling anything.
You posted 7 times here, last 30 days; mostly one line, or one word.

> 2.) Was I a crank? (simple yes or no) 

Last 30 days, no.

> 3.) Your short definition of 'crank', please. 

A crank is a snake oil salesman.
Everyone is a (biased) advocate of one thing or other.
(Biased) Premises only need be useful, not truthy.

> 4.) Are you being honest? (yes or no) 

Yes.

> 5.) Comments welcome (open ended comments here) 

You've hardly said anything, last 30 days.

> 6.) optional.  your name, please. 

Jeff-Relf.Me
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--0.08pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      I never buy Apple; I have no cell phone.

I never buy Apple; I have no cell phone.
I love my Samsung SSD, 1 TeraByte, 850 EVO. 
My printer is Japanese ( Brother ).
My MotherBoard is Taiwanese ( ASUS ).
My 40" 4K curved monitor is Dutch ( Philips ).
My g910 keyboard, g600 mouse and g633 headset are Swiss ( Logitech ). 
My i7-5775c CPU is American ( Intel ), as is my OS, Windows,
my 128 Gig USB stick ( SanDisk ), FanLess PowerSupply ( Rosewill ),
and monitor arm ( Amazon ).
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          .  12f8dd22-9009-407c-bf71-98e8252107dc@googlegroups.com
        Steve_BH│sbharris@gmail_com  34a7f7c2-1ea9-4ee0-9b1e-bc950fa17256@googlegroups.com
      JamesMcGinn  41b1612b-6d66-4f4a-9b25-04b646e31554@googlegroups.com
    Steve_BH│sbharris@gmail_com  47e94bdf-b872-4dac-9b4c-8212f63a20a3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--3.31am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m20 Cool; 13.2 Hours, GoogleG, 66.214.180.178,  Feb 23 {  2: 3pm, 2018 }:20^(PST)  Wδტα
      Trump will house the homeless long before James McGinn looks at a textbook.

> No fair peeking in texts.
> If you understand this problem, you won't need to peek.

Trump will house the homeless long before James McGinn looks at a textbook.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p6opo8$1j8v$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--10.39pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m74 Cool; 19.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 23 {  2:17am, 2018 }:32^(-5)  Wδχლ
      Change is neither bad nor good, it just is.

> just about everyone acknowledges (climate) change is bad

Change is neither bad nor good, it just is.

"Racism" and "Climate Change" are the raison d'être of the communist religion.
All religions are dying off, including communism.
The rising generation rejects it, world wide.
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              AndrzejMatuch  6vh09d9m41li0hqp3ihcr3f57hdiqavo6u@4ax.com
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  c5d55868-04a8-4399-8bc2-bb03aeb9031d@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  aa61a87a-fdc0-40f7-9293-3bdc1b694ca9@googlegroups.com
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  2cacfe0e-6987-4566-8047-64dafd095a6e@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  efb18b6b-70e5-4ffc-b9f6-9d93bef3c098@googlegroups.com
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  7fe03503-5d26-41d0-affd-f838f22c6395@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--10.17pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m47 Cool; 3.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Feb 23 {  6:39pm, 2018 }:49^(PST)  WεQϕ
      Sergey Vlasov's Visual Commander ( for Visual Studio 2017, Community ).

> > Visual Studio Code was written with TypeScript (a superset of JavaScript).
> 
> Visual Studio Code is a text editor for Windows, Linux, and Mac.
> The free Windows IDE is called Visual Studio Community.

If you want to create ".EXE" files, use Visual Studio 2017.
Sergey Vlasov's Visual Commander ( for VS Community ) gives you macros:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
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              BranimirMaksimovic  p6l887$p9b$1@news.albasani.net
            AndrzejMatuch  nsit8dhldi9j9pucf8u48gvvmgp2pber5q@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  v8jt8ddsaq5igbo84bt9ohsogkbtttbdrh@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  clnt8dljkji38dvkkqhm2ouasc1ufiidef@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.57am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  36fa0eef-0ffa-4733-9d30-004acf624824@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--8.09am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m22 Top; 2.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 94.140.125.111,  Feb 23 {  7:49am, 2018 }: 6^(PST)  WδФȸ
      Trump is an entertainer, not infallible.

> Your God is Trump (or Melania?), yo must obey them;
> otherwise their state will consume all your eXergy... 

Trump is an entertainer, not infallible.

Thanks for using the "eXergy" word correctly.
Google/WikiPedia says: ＜＜

  Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.  ＞＞
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              Wolf_K│wolfmac@sympatico_ca  mZojC.66250$4_2.42552@fx35.iad
            MrChrisV  4ngt8dhr6lgufmird2j5k67vf0o40en1e7@4ax.com
          Wolf_K│wolfmac@sympatico_ca  wTHjC.66987$9X2.29846@fx25.iad
        AndrzejMatuch  diuu8dlvue0thqd6a2gbmh81tc8fa8gt61@4ax.com
      Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann  p6olab$tdp$1@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  6b4561d4-2680-4589-bdb8-a63e7f4ddb46@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--7.25am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m65 Top; 3.4 Hours, GoogleG, 71.251.41.115,  Feb 23 {  3:17am, 2018 }:38^(PST)  WδϘრ
      Like any good NAZI, Peter Kohlmann would kill the politically incorrect.

> > windows users are racist pigs, stupid beyond imagination, 
> > and unworthy to serve as fertilizer.

Like any good NAZI, Peter Köhlmann would kill the politically incorrect.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--7.07am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Schools and Las Vegas hotels with insufficient security

Schools and Las Vegas hotels with insufficient security
will be sued to death, I imagine.
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              .  p6jf2t$qaa$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--5.00pm.Seattle.2018
          BranimirMaksimovic  p6l887$p9b$1@news.albasani.net
        AndrzejMatuch  nsit8dhldi9j9pucf8u48gvvmgp2pber5q@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  v8jt8ddsaq5igbo84bt9ohsogkbtttbdrh@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  clnt8dljkji38dvkkqhm2ouasc1ufiidef@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.23--6.57am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism
    ╱ 14  m97 Cool; 23.4 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 22 {  7:16am, 2018 }:30^(-5)  WδWМ
      "God" is just a euphemism for yourself, your ego.

> > > > > All religions are dying, including communism.
> 
> I believe in God 

Sure, but "God" is just a euphemism for yourself, your ego.
More advanced cultures, like Japan, don't have this concept.
The rising generation is rejecting it, world wide.

> there are some architects trying to start a race war

"Racism" and "Climate Change" are the raison d'être of the communist religion.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.22--9.23pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      The best keyboard the world has ever seen.

Logitech's g910 "Spark" keyboard is heaven on earth.
"Spark" has the deep center, angled keys... it feels goood !
I love the -sweeet- font on the keys.

I defined "zones", each with its own vibrant, heavenly color.
Hitting the wrong key is now a thing of the past, mostly.
FYI, White is: 255 144 198, not 255 255 255.

I keep "Gaming Mode" on, always,
which allows me to turn off -tons- of keys... super cool !

I have the g633 headset, so I physically removed all of the media keys,
and covered the area with a sheet of aluminum ( from a beer can );
this way, I can grab the ( top right ) area without pressing any keys !

I taped down the power cord ( using BiDirectional Filament Tape ), 
so it can't twist and break ( as my g110 did ).
The cord pokes out from the right side.

My g110 macros were easily ReAssigned to the g910's gKeys.
Far and Away, it's the best keyboard the world has ever seen.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p6jf2t$qaa$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--5.00pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m77 Cool; 14.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 21 {  1:44am, 2018 }:51^(-5)  Wγɡʫ
      All religions are dying, including communism.

> wired.com/story/to-stop-climate-change-educate-girls-and-give-them-birth-control/

What would be more alarming, Chicken Little ? :

  1. Global Warming.
  2. Global Cooling.
  3. A static climate, à la The Matrix.

All religions are dying, including communism.
People are flocking to cities ( and the internet ),
where we've abandoned "God", "Religion" and breeding.

We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
Our most precious goal, a higher GDP, is about consumption, spent fuel.
What is "health and prosperity" if not the ability to consume more, longer ?
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      Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p6i0nm$mft$1@gioia.aioe.org
    EdProchak  7fbe1250-fadb-49b3-acd3-443b545b2189@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--6.00pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m83 Top; 14.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Feb 20 {  5:12pm, 2018 }:37^(PST)  WγCb
      OUR Cosmological Horizon, in OUR Observable Universe.

What would be more alarming, Chicken Little ? :

  1. Global Warming.
  2. Global Cooling.
  3. A static climate, à la The Matrix.

P.S. When I mentioned "the other side" ( as Mr. Hall called it ),
you (Prochak) told me: " The fiction group is down the hall and to the left ".
f323f68a-c99e-48e7-ae14-eeaff8b4de5f@googlegroups.com

Planck Length/Time limit what we can know about OUR first moments,
at the edge of OUR Cosmological Horizon, in OUR Observable Universe;
it's 100% subjective, not intrinsic.
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    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  tavm8dd450h7o3knq7q5kdohqgakiccpkt@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--8.47am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Alt.Alien.Vampire.Flonk.Flonk.Flonk, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1  m108 Cool; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 20 {  7:11am, 2018 }: 7^(-5)  WβНс
      Government subsidies are bad unless you benefit ( free light bulbs ).

> People these days no longer have any pride in the things they do.
> they disrupt Usenet discourse with their
> constant yammering about politics in non-political groups
> 
> You will never see me do this.

Your off topic, right wing rants aside, eh Greg ?
Government subsidies are bad unless you benefit ( free light bulbs ).
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          Cody_Hosa│chosa@cisco_com  8999c5fb5d18c8632ceeacd4a0e168f4@dizum.com
        Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann  p6c5ec$as0$1@dont-email.me
      MrChrisV  d76o8dhr9tuatanpp3me88a5hikd9oshat@4ax.com
    Wolf_K│wolfmac@sympatico_ca  W5XiC.31119$vP3.16816@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--8.22am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Privacy.Anon-Server, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Comp.Hardware.PC-Homebuilt, Comp.Sys.Mac.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 49 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM,  Feb 20 {  7:25am, 2018 }:41^(-5)  WβРɥ
      If you drive a fancy sports car, you buy Apple.

If you drive a fancy sports car, you buy Apple.
If you dumpster dive, you download Distros at the public library.
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          .  sv5e8d5s3le4omde0csbtis2kjcl0fvi7e@4ax.com
        .  p69ki6$1e9o$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ns2h8dtg4376ftuid2n8t2dh8e58tb888u@4ax.com
    EdProchak  7e894296-be4c-42f4-801e-903b0985c1b8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.19--9.27am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m68 Top; 1 Minutes, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Feb 19 {  9:20am, 2018 }:50^(PST)  Wβrʪ
      The other side ( past the horizon ) is unknowable.

> > one-way happening. Something came out of
> > THIS side so something had to come out of the OTHER side.
> 
> WTF kind of nonsense is this?  Do you and Skeeter have
> any data supporting the existence of that "OTHER side"??

The other side ( past the horizon ) is unknowable.
Also, Planck Length/Time limits us, if nothing else.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--4.44am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism
      Japan is arguably the most moral country in the world.

Japan is arguably the most moral country in the world,
yet "theism" (ego) boggles their minds, they don't know what it is.
"Do you believe in God" is a euphemism for "Do you believe in me".
"God is Great" is a euphemism for "I am Great".
"God hates fags" is a euphemism for "I hate fags".

We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
Our most precious goal, a higher GDP, is about consumption, spent fuel.
What is "health and prosperity" if not the ability to consume more, longer ?
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      Byker│byker@do~rag_net  TqydnXWNr8gBAO7HnZ2dnUU7-YfNnZ2d@supernews.com
    Lofty_Goat│rlwatkins@gmail_com  263h8d1mnlvt1rp9b6khu5c5m5m9nj8nfj@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--0.59pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Alt.Fan.Rush-Limbaugh
    ╱ 1  m23 Shifty; 20.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Giganews.COM,  Feb 17 {   :27pm, 2018 }:30^(-6)  WΩგλ
      Why are you calling yourself an idiot ?

> most of the wildly OT stuff posted here is written by idiots.

Why are you calling yourself an idiot ?
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        .  sv5e8d5s3le4omde0csbtis2kjcl0fvi7e@4ax.com
      .  p69ki6$1e9o$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ns2h8dtg4376ftuid2n8t2dh8e58tb888u@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--0.54pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Alt.Fan.Ladypilot
    ╱ 2  m113 Cool; 21 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 17 {   :27pm, 2018 }: 6^(-5)  WΩგΛ
      We can't see beyond the horizon.

> > The Big Bang is the start of time. There's no "before" it,
> > just as there's nowhere north of the North Pole.

Something came before the big bang, we just can't see it;
we can't see beyond the horizon.

  No -ideal- horizon exists because, if it could, 
  it'd have ZERO entropy and INFINITE "eXergy"
  ( energy that can do physical work ).

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
  now add a little "gravity&eXergy", so it fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (true) black hole back then ]
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p66rn5$158l$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--9.53am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m81 Cool; 2.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 16 {  7:  am, 2018 }:49^(-5)  WΩUn
      What is "health and prosperity" if not the ability to consume more, longer ?

> Viscount Ridley, a self-proclaimed 'lukewarmer', has again suffered the 
> embarrassment of promoting a study that concludes global warming is 
> having an overall positive economic impact, only to discover that it is not:
> http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/more-flaws-in-estimates-of-the-economic-impacts-of-climate-change/

We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
Our most precious goal, a higher GDP, is about consumption, spent fuel.
What is "health and prosperity" if not the ability to consume more, longer ?

When animals win, as we are today, atmospheric co2 skyrockets,
and the planet gets greener.
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      .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
    toyteen2017@gmail_com  e51d44fa-f8d0-4b23-8f10-151791be41b7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--9.29am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 36.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.199.120.251,  Feb 16 {  8: 2am, 2018 }:36^(PST)  WΩeʜ
      The world's worst, most painful hangover and/or a suicide/homicide.

> certain small-sized sex toys like bullet vibrators, 
> can blow a woman’s mind, much more than a monster dildo can. 
> So, start small, focus on the feelings you desire, and you’ll be fine.

Women get off on "erotica", dudes prefer gonzo.

I think it's funny how, when women write erotica,
it's very long, with many episodes ( "to be continued..." ),
and excellent grammer/spelling.

When some young, horny dude tries to do "it" ( porn vids ),
it's gonzo caveman, no grammer at all, no story.

Today's men won't risk their future incomes on a fickle wife
who'd end up taking it all, leaving him with nothing but
the world's worst, most painful hangover and/or a suicide/homicide.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--8.25am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      BitCoin is the TaterTot currency of the underworld.

In prison, TaterTots are the "best" ( least bad ) currency
because dollars aren't allowed there.

BitCoin is the TaterTot currency of the underworld
because other currencies must be "clean".

Reputation is the TaterTot currency here, on Usenet,
because, effectively, dollars aren't allowed.
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              BenJacoby  L3ohC.49220$9%2.27917@fx36.iad
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p652p2$btq$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  1wohC.48881$YR7.38202@fx34.iad
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p6552j$fi5$2@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  yarhC.147115$qv.106464@fx33.iad
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p66jai$k04$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--8.12am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m198 Mad; 40 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 16 {  4:37am, 2018 }:38  WΩ6ɢ
      Mr. Odd quotes kooks, not textbooks.

Replying to Ben Jacoby, Mr. Odd wrote:
> > this place is a bullshit party !
> > mostly name-calling, not science
> 
> Maybe that’s what it is for you....

Mr. Odd quotes kooks, not textbooks.
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              JohnSefton  0e1e15f9-20aa-4c2d-974c-b8d59de6f263@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p6477j$qj5$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  4c5b175d-2787-4454-90a9-4e3c3d57405c@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p64c9v$1449$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  68ae9c98-d633-42bf-8937-ed69d1d54170@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p64h6o$1d44$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.15--11.12am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m191 Mad; 1.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 15 {  9:49am, 2018 }:12  WΨΓȾ
      He doesn't want what you want.

> > Show it or blow it, faker
> 
> I’ve given you pointers to the place where you can get it.
> Shall I assume you are crippled?

He doesn't want what you want... so be it.
■
              JohnSefton  0455617d-d44c-4cbe-ae17-0ee3571516d7@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p6426l$htn$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  0e1e15f9-20aa-4c2d-974c-b8d59de6f263@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p6477j$qj5$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  4c5b175d-2787-4454-90a9-4e3c3d57405c@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p64c9v$1449$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.15--8.45am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1  m189 Mad; 16.1 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 15 {  8:25am, 2018 }:35  WΨʤɟ
      Mr. Odd's penchant for text books is unusual.

Mr. Odd's penchant for text books is unusual.
He shouldn't expect others to join him; least of all, Mr. Sefton.
■
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  lu648dpeuu227c80f068so6cup650l31c4@4ax.com
          BenJacoby  GutgC.48855$d03.30695@fx37.iad
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  nu468dhcoh52cd8pqktrnl09i5uh42u5vi@4ax.com
      Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p5vde7$1bc$9@dont-email.me
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  hba98d1j0mec77b1k80hop408oo0l6biet@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.14--2.33pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Usenet.Kooks, Soc.Men
    ╱ 4  m107 Cool; 19.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 14 {  1:50pm, 2018 }:58^(-5)  WΧრΓ
      Fleeing to Syria.

> > Nads won't even consider moving to such liberal *utopias*.
> 
> > You mean, Finland?
> 
> Then wtf are you still doing in Arizona?
> Are you some sort of masochist?

Evil Socialism has yet to infect places like Niger and Zaire,
where the ( 99% muslim ) Mandingo roam free.

Presumably, droves of refuges from perverse/gay/socialist towns,
like Tokyo, London and San Francisco, will soon be fleeing to Syria.

P.S. I think Nads has green eyes and long boobs, like:
Jeff-Relf.Me/LankyHentaiBoobsGreenEyes.GIF
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                JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
              HughHuntzinger  5416b562-2093-4953-96d4-e420e07689b3@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.03pm.Seattle.2017
          TakuyaSaitoh  2ca00a17-06d6-4218-81bd-1bd75b617ac0@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.26pm.Seattle.2017
      TakuyaSaitoh  755fbf91-4ad6-4f7a-a364-1441d1058109@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--7.07am.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--7.17am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|124 Top; 44.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 216.218.222.12,  Nov 26 { 11:34pm, 2017 }:34^(PST)  WʐщР
      Wait time for LowIncome, elderly housing, Green Lake, Seattle.

> Wait time for LowIncome housing, University District, Seattle:
> 
>   3 to 4 years
>   https://www.seattlehousing.org/sites/default/files/Historical_Average_Wait_Times.pdf

Quoting from the above link:

  Applicants who are at least 62, income eligible 
  and reside within the city of Seattle [ like me, 4 years from now ]
  receive the highest preference points for SSHP waiting lists.

     University District:  1 to 2 years
     Green Lake:           1 to 2 years
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      kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p5pf77$7vi$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Al_Bedo│ice@age_now  p5ptve$s5r$1@news.mixmin.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--5.39pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m3 Shifty; 6.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Mixmin.NET,  Feb 11 {  9:19am, 2018 }:37^(-7)  WΥгɡ
      Chicken Little is biased, like a used car salesman.

> scientific proponents of AGW are now finally admitting that
> global warming is not global, nor is it warming.

Chicken Little is biased, like a used car salesman;
the earth is greener now, thanks to increased Carbon Dioxide.

The warming is obvious to any historian, scientist or not.
The land is warming faster than the sea,
and the Northern Hemisphere has a higher land/sea ratio.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.56pm.Seattle.2018
        MrAA  e3b1327e-3a44-427d-a76f-3579977cb604@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--8.20pm.Seattle.2018
    MrAA  70ff36ea-8787-4a1f-84de-cd8fda75b84f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--4.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m75 Top; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Feb 10 {  2:41pm, 2018 }:31^(PST)  WΥɪკ
      Censorship is their flaw, their Achilles heel.

In Portland Oregon, KimChi lover "Double A" wrote:
> > Censorship is their flaw, their achilles heel; 
> > before long, they'll have WikiPedia, porn and cheese.
> 
> This country censors child porn and ads by Canadian Pharmacies.  
> There are no completely free speech zones.  Except maybe Antarctica!

Yet people still buy drugs from Canada and China.
Opiates delivered to your door, if you want.

And it's a trend, it's becoming more and more available.
Drug abusers are sick, they should be treated ( not just jailed ).

In Tokyo, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> > Surely, Piglet knows about:  Jeff-Relf.Me/Lanky.Boobs.JPG
> > You don't think he wants it ? !
> 
> That's something for the breast cancer surgeron!

Japs like lanky boobs too, hence the popularity of
plastic surgery in South Korea, China and Japan.
Jeff-Relf.Me/LankyHentaiBoobsGreenEyes.GIF
Jeff-Relf.Me/LankyHentaiBoobs.MP4
■
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.56pm.Seattle.2018
    MrAA  e3b1327e-3a44-427d-a76f-3579977cb604@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--8.20pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m76 Top; 4.4 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Feb  9 {  2:37pm, 2018 }:41^(PST)  WΤϑɥ
      Censorship is their flaw, their achilles heel.

In Portland Oregon, KimChi lover "Double A" wrote:
> Opening up North Korea to the west would cause them to lose -Old Traditions-.
> But the people would have a hell of a lot more fun!  That is the dilemma.

(Imperialist) China/Russia's missiles target Tokyo and New York;
so "little brother" ( North Korea ) wants the same.

But censorship is their flaw, their achilles heel; 
before long, they'll have WikiPedia, porn and cheese.

In Tokyo, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> Their fatty piggy leader gets as much porn as he wants from real women...
> BTW where is the f*cking Dennis Rodman?  
> Is he enjoying the NK cheerleaders with his piggy fella?

Surely, Piglet knows about:  Jeff-Relf.Me/Lanky.Boobs.JPG
You don't think he wants it ? !
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--6.56pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Someday, North Korea will get WikiPedia, porn and cheese.

Someday, North Korea will get WikiPedia, porn and cheese;
meanwhile (imperialist) China and Russia are blocking it.
■
        SEKI│seki_hajime01@gmail_com  8bf3625a-f8b5-4e1d-bec6-019e7486d739@googlegroups.com
      charly│info_ronse@skynet_be  p5dqc4$jrs$1@dont-email.me
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  6799598.EvYhyI6sBW@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--5.38pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m40 Cool; 18 Minutes, KNode, Cust.Swisscom.CH➤Open-News-Network.ORG,  Feb  8 {  5:10pm, 2018 }:14^(1)  WΤBϼ
      Gravity is most accurately modeled using temporal and spatial curvature.

Charly has a good grasp of physics, more than you ( Thomas Lahn ).

> In GR, gravity does not exist, and the curvature of spacetime 
> corresponds to the density of energy, stress, and momentum.

Gravity is most accurately modeled using temporal and spatial curvature.

  Everything, all of us, always move at "c" ( the speed of light ).

  If, relative to each other, we ( you and I ) are not moving spatially,
  then I observe that you're moving ( at c ) exclusively
  in the temporal dimension, not in the spatial one.

  Conversely, photons move exclusively in the spatial dimension;
  i.e. we observe that their ( local ) clocks don't tick.

  We observe that objects are frozen/static at an APPARENT event horizon
  because they only move in the spatial dimension, not the temporal one.
■
              JohnSefton  65e041d7-43ee-4555-98af-fabd1a46103e@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p5i0g2$ns5$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  cc3b4acc-555a-4d4f-ab0a-79afdcd3157d@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p5i5do$11s5$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  800dad5c-4d96-443e-9014-da5bc3160206@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p5ieir$1iad$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--3.38pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m160 Mad; 2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  8 {  1:14pm, 2018 }: 3  WΣლɻ
      95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen.

95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen because
we're sitting in a brightly lit "room" with pitch black "windows",
and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.

Quoting WikiPedia: ＜＜
  The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded 
  in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter. 
  The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
  It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter ＞＞
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              7│7@enemygadgets_com  fdpdj3Fd3nnU1@mid.individual.net
            EdProchak  e747c20d-4394-495d-8a51-67a02cb546b1@googlegroups.com
          JohnSefton  9818b7f2-4e53-4271-9375-1459e96f294c@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p5a8a5$14op$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  9327ed0f-a486-47a1-90b6-98041591a972@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p5c7lp$1csr$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--7.28am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m140 Cool; 2.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  6 {  4:39am, 2018 }:22  WΡɾγ
      ZERO entropy and INFINITE eXergy.

> Black holes are not different scale phenomena. Nor are they wonko.
> And there’s a ton of evidence that they are really there. 

  No TRUE event horizon exists because, if it could, 
  it'd have ZERO entropy and INFINITE "eXergy"
  ( energy that can do physical work ).

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
  now add a little "gravity&eXergy", so it fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (true) black hole back then ]
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      __@_____  57ud7d1gjf9bb7lnbf49i5tprtu10honvd@4ax.com
    MrAA  ec67474d-fefc-4758-bf66-8b0014e5ec31@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--7.27pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m76 Top; 3.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Feb  5 {  3:17pm, 2018 }:11^(PST)  WΠხх
      When animals win, atmospheric co2 skyrockets.

When plants are winning the battle for resources, atmospheric oxygen skyrockets,
allowing for larger insects, birds/dinosaurs, etc.

When animals win, as we are today, atmospheric co2 skyrockets,
and the planet gets greener.

    We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
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        mrjdawe@gmail_com  5a8c606f-cb40-43f2-bf35-5b9d8b5630b9@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--8.05pm.Seattle.2018
    mrjdawe@gmail_com  ee98fafa-cc70-4baf-95bf-ef9063c55acc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.4--6.08am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m3 Cool; 8.9 Hours, GoogleG, 180.150.56.207,  Feb  3 {  9:10pm, 2018 }: 9^(PST)  WΟбϷ
      We're sitting in a brightly lit room with pitch black windows.

> Don't complain to me, Mr Light, 
> that there is no more darkness left to shine through.

  95% of the Milky Way is outside of the visible core, where we are;
  we're sitting in a brightly lit room with pitch black windows,
  and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.
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    mrjdawe@gmail_com  5a8c606f-cb40-43f2-bf35-5b9d8b5630b9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--8.05pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m2 Cool; 18.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 180.150.56.207,  Feb  3 {  7:28pm, 2018 }:54^(PST)  WΟРд
      We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.

Melbournite Joshua Dawe wrote:
> The meaning of life for an animal is to become a plant.

The whole story,  past, present and future,  here, there and everywhere:

    We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.

Health ( mental and physical ) is everything.
Money is just a stupid game, like poker -- the house always wins;
it's a tax on people who can't do math -- I'm a mathematician.
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              Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann  p54lsk$7c7$1@dont-email.me
            JohnGohde  213d84da-7a63-4927-b6a4-8fb0478e50a3@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  5dfa88a5-75a6-47f1-ac9d-a7f65cb10196@googlegroups.com
        Owl  zvb11.uov@rooftop.invalid
      JohnGohde  a417a1ec-e819-4147-a904-b869d6cb727f@googlegroups.com
    Owl  a12zxcv0.ahuob@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.3--1.08pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m128 Cool; 22.2 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Feb  3 {   :43pm, 2018 }:11  WΟθȽ
Cut&Copy aren't working for John Gohde.

> There is no bug, grampa.  You got the heimers.

Cut&Copy aren't working for him, John Gohde.
^X, ^C aren't working.
He could try RightClicking, to use the ContextMenu's Copy.
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              JohnSefton  7c81bf79-1999-4b73-9bd9-511b337cded8@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p4vq9t$808$1@gioia.aioe.org
          BenJacoby  EaQcC.24284$u94.7470@fx08.iad
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p525qb$1t0j$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--9.59am.Seattle.2018
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p52a7f$4t0$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.29am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m147 Cool; 4.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  2 { 10:21am, 2018 }:36  WΞнρ
      Your sig is very annoying, OCD.

> > In the last 30 days,  you ( Mr. Odd ) have told us 145 times
> > that you are a " maker of fine toys, tools, tables ".
> > 
> > Why ?  Who's asking ?  Are you selling something ?
> > How much are you making off it ?
> 
> You getting irate over the content of a sig file? 

I read everything you post here because I LIKE IT.
But your sig is very annoying, OCD.
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              JohnSefton  ea05d968-7e5c-4cd8-a1c4-4e188a2a9529@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p4vfe5$1k1c$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  7c81bf79-1999-4b73-9bd9-511b337cded8@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p4vq9t$808$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  EaQcC.24284$u94.7470@fx08.iad
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p525qb$1t0j$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--9.59am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    +-, 49.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  2 {  9: 6am, 2018 }:19  WΞбJ
      Why ?  Who's asking ?  Are you selling something ?

In the last 30 days,  you ( Mr. Odd ) have told us 145 times
that you are a " maker of fine toys, tools, tables ".

Why ?  Who's asking ?  Are you selling something ?
How much are you making off it ?
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--8.52pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  c5424577-4594-4075-9085-462352275341@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.1--8.16am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m42 Top; 9.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 195.22.125.144,  Feb  1 {  6:31am, 2018 }: 9^(PST)  WΞPȻ
      Banks are the house, and the house always wins.

> build a mining megarig next to the nuclear power plant 
> and turn yo plutonium into cryptocurrency!!! 
> What a crazy World....

BitCoin's market cap, $160 billion, is the pot in a grand poker game.
You can ante in with dollars, Yen, Yuan, Rubles or computing power.
But remember, banks are the house, and the house always wins.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--8.52pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      China plans to kill most of the world’s bitcoin mining operations.

" China plans to kill most of the world’s bitcoin mining operations "
By David Gilbert Jan 8, 2018, Vice.COM    

  Thanks to cheap electricity, China has in recent 
  years become a major hub of mining, accounting for 
  around 70 percent of the bitcoin mining network.    

  As such, a blanket ban on operations could have
  a big impact on the price of bitcoin.  

  With fewer miners on the network, 
  the difficulty of mining bitcoin would go down, 
  meaning less power would be required, 
  which could have a negative impact on the price of bitcoin.    

  It may also have an impact on transactions times. 

  Chinese miners have been keen to limit the number of 
  transactions processed per block, but if they are not 
  voting, miners elsewhere can increase the amount of 
  information sent per block, which should improve 
  transaction times, and drive fees down.    

  The documents suggest the decision to ban mining
  was taken in November. 

  It’s an unsurprising move given that Pan Gongsheng, 
  deputy governor of the People’s Bank of China, 
  recently predicted the death of bitcoin.    

  Some of China’s mining operations are already looking 
  to relocate overseas, but the process will take time 
  and will inevitably lead to lower margin, since 
  electricity prices outside China are much higher.    

  Russia could be in a position to capitalize 
  given it also has cheap electricity prices. 

  Moscow recently launched a plan to capture 
  one third of the bitcoin mining network from China.   
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      .  ndduik$s24$3@dont-email.me
    jhammer609kde1@gmail_com  e9299928-1338-4758-bdf2-78a28edfef36@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--4.55pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 23.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 69.250.188.233,  Jan 30 {  4:27pm, 2018 }: 6^(PST)  WΝ4Λ
      Are you DFS ?

Who but DFS would post MS Excel _2003_ scripts ?
Are you him ?
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              Nomen_Nescio│nobody@dizum_com  bd0da5dcff73dfb69ae43cdca96b8bee@dizum.com
            William_Unruh│unruh@invalid_ca  p4nosp$fmr$4@dont-email.me
          ChrisAhlstrom  p4nt25$do5$1@dont-email.me
        William_Unruh│unruh@invalid_ca  p4o1u6$nnm$1@dont-email.me
      Nomen_Nescio│nobody@dizum_com  34ced770d6c4b346d51da4c524b14229@dizum.com
    William_Unruh│unruh@invalid_ca  p4opov$6jr$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--2.40am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m5 Shifty; 6.6 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 29 {  7:45pm, 2018 }:36  WΜʝρ
      There are no known exploits; nothing to worry about, no symptoms.

> > Considering how long [meltdown+spectre] has been in place, who and what 
> > government agencies have been taking advantage of it?
> > It almost seems deliberate on Intel's part.
> 
> I doubt that. 

There are no known exploits; nothing to worry about, no symptoms.

I trust WikiPedia and I Google the professionals.
I neither OverReact nor UnderReact.
I disabled automatic updates, Win10.
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              BranimirMaksimovic  p4gikd$qeu$2@news.albasani.net
            AndrzejMatuch  jn5p6dtm5al9t7p2luat6trpuulupkt6md@4ax.com
          BranimirMaksimovic  p4i8no$3l9$1@news.albasani.net
        SteveCarroll  0af33928-22f3-4d55-acab-57b1a31525c7@googlegroups.com
      BranimirMaksimovic  p4ic78$r5h$1@news.albasani.net
    SteveCarroll  13ae1d89-8fce-480e-a086-d25e78210e9e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--9.59am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m49 Cool; 14.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 27 {  9:29am, 2018 }:46^(PST)  WΚдშ
      How is Fabian Russell's "Everyone is BrainDead" premise USEFUL to him ?

> At this year's [ National Association of Music Merchants ] show
> Neumann reissued their U67, a classic studio recording mic. 
> Any minute now, Feeb will tell us he can make one for $20.

How is Fabian Russell's "Everyone is BrainDead" premise USEFUL to him ?

Everyone is a (biased) advocate of one thing or other.
(Biased) Premises only need be useful, not truthy.
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              JamesMcGinn  eeff7d53-098d-4d96-8c48-6f1f1a8b16cc@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p4doed$e3g$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JamesMcGinn  5d698daa-34b2-4d57-89cc-f023354a9a57@googlegroups.com
        pnalsing@gmail_com  95f6e66b-4c7e-45cf-9770-b2735a2d75dc@googlegroups.com
      JamesMcGinn  b25bfcef-ad50-47b9-9a31-a1614077e801@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  p4f7oc$fe5$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--9.43am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 7  m129 Cool; 1.2 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 26 {  4:42am, 2018 }:52  WΚ7q
      How is James McGinn's "Scientists are BrainDead" premise USEFUL to him ?

How is James McGinn's "Scientists are BrainDead" premise USEFUL to him ?

Everyone is a (biased) advocate of one thing or other.
(Biased) Premises only need be useful, not truthy.

  " science is largely dictated by millions and millions of brain-dead dumbasses ",
  says James McGinn.
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  3qoc6d9ndas4l9canvsodfmm3vav5jbt7a@4ax.com
            Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.34d192825df9dd6992c1f@news.altopia.com
          pandora│pandora@peak_org  D6SdnaxU5KVsWvXHnZ2dnUU7-TmdnZ2d@scnresearch.com
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  j4rh6dlpkgl88m2s12mag4185kb893djpi@4ax.com
      pandora│pandora@peak_org  EKKdnfMEpc1BlPTHnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@scnresearch.com
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  f67l6dldl3j6f83pufikqosoqjl1967e8g@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--7.33am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 24 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jan 26 {  7:27am, 2018 }:31^(-5)  WΚYμ
      Are you a victim ?

> A good Catholic family is hard to beat for efficiency,
> productivity, and morality, not to mention productivity.
> 
> But you damned liberals had to come along and ruin it
> all with your warped way of doing things - your ungodly
> legislation, your myopic equal rights, your sinful 
> feminism, your dearth of ethics and morality, your 
> destruction of the traditional family.

Where are your wife and kids, Greg ?

Or are you all talk and no action ?

Are you a victim ?
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.34b727d54c85ecac99290e@news.altopia.com
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  hprs4d9jb0gl16jkc1hjqn73l9diol6npb@4ax.com
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.34b86d6f314a0a7599292b@news.altopia.com
        pandora│pandora@peak_org  XdqdnV1rdZQHRNPHnZ2dnUU7-YmdnZ2d@scnresearch.com
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.34b8937bf9944a4f99292e@news.altopia.com
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  chjv4d94gje6bctivl0rqlqvqem4g8h1cq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--4.39am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 17/107|109 Cool; 3.1 Weeks, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jan  5 { 11:57am, 2018 }:  ^(-5)  WʫɍΕ
      Your email passwords and PIN numbers are your signatures.

Your email passwords and PIN numbers are your signatures.
IRS forms use a PIN number.
■
              Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p45t7b$ne9$4@dont-email.me
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p47mlg$h14$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p4aq86$ufo$7@dont-email.me
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p4cee3$55l$3@gioia.aioe.org
      Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p4djd1$ufo$30@dont-email.me
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p4fqpm$1gka$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--2.22am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 11/15|100 Cool; 15.9 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 26 { 10: 7am, 2018 }:45^(-5)  WΚzɩ
      Only the Destop PC user is sane, living a reasonable life.

Theater goers have to deal with filthy, sticky, insane strangers.

TV watchers inflict their watching/listening habits on others,
and/or have to suffer through whatever others want.

Smart Phone users can't do simple math, can't budget.
They pay through the nose for a tiny device that's constantly losing power.

Only the Destop PC user is sane, living a reasonable life.

For 85 cents per month, and .9 cents per minute,
I get get a phone number with unlimited SMS texts ( VoIP.MS ).
I call Japan too, on the cheap, using ordinary phone numbers.

My 4k, curved, 40 inch monitor rides on an extra long monitor arm,
so I can position it any which way I want.
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p45031$9jo$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Yoda│yoda1@dagobah_swamp  p47v46$698$2@news.mixmin.net
          Michael_Ejercito│mejercit  p4808t$lbr$1@dont-email.me
        Yoda│yoda1@dagobah_swamp  p480r7$698$5@news.mixmin.net
      BenJacoby  DfN9C.655876$fC.266750@fx43.iad
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p4afl8$u7e$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--2.03am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 12/24|98 Cool; 2.7 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 24 {  9:27am, 2018 }: 2^(-5)  WΘдΗ
      Commies would outlaw testosterone.

> Scratch a climate change denier, find a misogynist 
> with rapey ideations ... every fricking time.

So, naturally, you'd outlaw testosterone.

  You're not a "scientist" if you ignore the bad side of communism 
  ( Death by ReEducation Camps, no Internet, no Porn ),
  and the good side of Global Warming ( The earth is greener now ).
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          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p41s80$1hg3$1@gioia.aioe.org
        7│7@enemygadgets_com  fcklssFthuqU3@mid.individual.net
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.34cee26f37d2456b992bcd@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p45031$9jo$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.27--1.40am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 16/40|98 Cool; 4.7 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 22 {  7:30am, 2018 }:41^(-5)  WΗʛf
      Like any good scientist, "kensi" ignores the bad side of communism.

Like any good scientist, "kensi" ignores the bad side of communism 
( Death by ReEducation Camps, no Internet, no Porn ),
and the good side of Global Warming ( The earth is greener now ).
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p2sru3$vis$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p2u4u5$13c1$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Libtard│libtard@sandernistas_  p2u72u$9ac$4@news.mixmin.net
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p2vj2q$uan$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.34bcf1b3e312d8959929ca@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p2vkhk$10o5$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
  Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4/64|98 Cool; 2.6 Weeks, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jan  8 {  3:26am, 2018 }:43^(-5)  Wʬჰʣ
      The whole story, excluding nothing.

> > we'll destroy ourselves long before we ever figure out
> > a way to leave Planet Shit.

The whole story, excluding nothing,
past, present and future,   here, there and everywhere:

  We ( you, me and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.45am.Seattle.2018
            TakuyaSaitoh  c75bb5d1-a427-430b-9323-0150b086118a@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.10pm.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  7847f15b-f844-4756-a876-8ce9117de65c@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--10.19pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  bc2711e4-1fbb-4d01-baa7-f94c522b3ee1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--8.53am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|46 Top; 25 Minutes, GoogleG, 197.231.221.211,  Jan 26 {  8:22am, 2018 }:48^(PST)  WΚhЮ
      It takes me 3 days to drink a gallon of whole milk.

> > He's trim, I'm fat; I smoke, he doesn't.
> 
> yo only oil comes from fish (can tuna), right?

It takes me 3 days to drink a gallon of whole milk.
Cheese, baloney, peanut butter, chicken ( skin and all ),
mayonnaise, etc., etc.

P.S. All ages live here, in my roomming house.
     Everyone takes care of themselves, mostly.
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              BenJacoby  gRU%B.2864$Qg.1042@fx19.iad
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p1uqt3$6bi$2@gioia.aioe.org
          Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p1usvl$9ap$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  p1veo9$j97$8@dont-email.me
      BenJacoby  imR0C.20556$247.6753@fx40.iad
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p20vtu$1eoe$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--8.43am.Seattle.2018
  Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 7/91|91 Cool; 4.3 Weeks, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 27 {   :30pm, 2017 }:52^(-5)  Wʥɕq
      Get a hint ladies, no one wants you.

Nothing is uglier than a bunch of bitchy women marching on Washington
hoping to win The Victim Olympics by casting aspersions on men.

Get a hint ladies, no one wants you.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.26--7.47am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      95% of the Milky Way is outside of the visible core, where we are.

95% of the Milky Way is outside of the visible core, where we are;
we're sitting in a brightly lit room with pitch black windows,
and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--5.39am.Seattle.2018
            .  310e680a-a2cc-42e6-8d3d-ffe60e964738@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.45am.Seattle.2018
        .  c75bb5d1-a427-430b-9323-0150b086118a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.10pm.Seattle.2018
    MrAA  7b74649b-fefa-411e-87b4-facfbdf5c4a4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.25--8.22pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1/3|61 Top; 4.2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jan 25 {  3:22pm, 2018 }:10^(PST)  WΙϙϸ
      Christian America endangers/kills sex workers.

> > Four of my tenants died, one was a drug overdose.
> > Two lost their minds ( self medicating ).
> > I see it all, the good and the bad.
> 
> Sounds like a real flop house!

No, we're talking 7+ years, 32 units, heavy turn over.  The four were:

  96 years old, died of old age. 
  79 years old, died of old age.
  56 years old, throat cancer; HEAVY coffee drinker/pot smoker, poker player.
  28 years old, drug overdose; stripper, sugar baby, sex worker.

Christian America endangers/kills sex workers.
When one dies, they say, " See, that's what happens; don't do it ".
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  831b56f0-17a4-4dbe-ab67-57a21cd3e644@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  01600082-77a8-4a22-857e-771c2214b66b@googlegroups.com
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  84b4c0e0-8d31-431c-a19d-288bef7db0a6@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  19e52288-8d09-48c0-95d2-d1df3a5d4ba3@googlegroups.com
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  8c9590f2-549a-4599-a4a8-053bcc0e093b@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  7e5d6448-c85b-4df3-ad76-83afa5bbd1b2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.25--11.16am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1/1|67 Top; 5.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Jan 25 { 10:59am, 2018 }: 9^(PST)  WΙΞу
      Mr Owl and TheSham are trying to win The Victim Olympics.

Mr Owl and TheSham are trying to win The Victim Olympics;
your facts just get in their way, Hugh Huntzinger.

Likely, their bitchy wives are the source of their pain;
I, on the other hand, feel damn rich, fat and happy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--5.39am.Seattle.2018
            HughHuntzinger  310e680a-a2cc-42e6-8d3d-ffe60e964738@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.45am.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  c75bb5d1-a427-430b-9323-0150b086118a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.10pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  7847f15b-f844-4756-a876-8ce9117de65c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--10.20pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|44 Top; 5.1 Hours, GoogleG, 54.37.16.241,  Jan 24 {  4:33pm, 2018 }:31^(PST)  WΙ5μ
      Air causes cancer; breath too much of it, and you're dead.

> > Four of my tenants died, one was a drug overdose.
> > Two lost their minds ( self medicating ).
> > I see it all, the good and the bad.
> 
> Yo better off than them, and perhaps even yo landlord
> dying from cancer ( oily Chinese food overdose? ). 

My landlord eats "properly"; lots of veggies, little meat.
He's trim, I'm fat; I smoke, he doesn't.
Chemo nearly killed him, leaving him weak&poor; I'm strong.

Air causes cancer; breath too much of it, and you're dead.
Steve Jobs ate only the seeds and fruits of plants because
he couldn't bare the thought of harming them.  Dead at 56.

  Health ( mental and physical ) is everything.
  Money is just a stupid game, like poker -- the house always wins;
  it's a tax on people who can't do math -- I'm a mathematician.

> How 'bout your rubber toys, are they keeping you in shape down there ?

They left me for a better man ( better looking, with better drugs ).
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--1.52am.Seattle.2018
            Arindam_Banerjee│  139029ef-659c-4e4a-bfc9-a23249d80ac8@googlegroups.com
          BenJacoby  6VK9C.198661$%a1.3509@fx35.iad
        Arindam_Banerjee│  4d53a196-8574-42fe-a5dd-144c7ec7587e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--2.27pm.Seattle.2018
    HerbertGlazier  df610fa4-edaa-49f0-91a7-9d7ff4016978@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.24--2.07pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|183 Dropped; 43.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jan 24 {  1:14pm, 2018 }:16^(PST)  WΘლʈ
      How big are their dildos ? does it hurt ?

> I have sex with 14 year old girls at hotels.

How big are their dildos ? does it hurt ?
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              TakuyaSaitoh  16663c37-6077-4984-9695-d690bc9c52db@googlegroups.com
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  1aa15e57-6615-49a2-8895-0acd92efacb7@googlegroups.com
          MrChrisV  0pbe6dpeq19kcpot1t6t6cigi0jcrrrmha@4ax.com
        ChrisAhlstrom  p47hbc$65u$1@dont-email.me
      MrChrisV  8aue6d16714nslj2k4jjaqjqk3g4fs2eq9@4ax.com
    flatfish+++│flatfish@mariana_  x1tevvtlisyf$.3fcjgot5asmz$.dlg@40tude.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.26pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|1 Shifty; 6.2 Hours, 40tude, Individual.NET,  Jan 23 {  3:31pm, 2018 }:13^(-5)  WΘɳȿ
      I make 6k a year and I'm fat&happy.

> At some point I said good bye to big blue and went out
> on my own in the property management business. 
>               ....
> I did real well, really well, until a bad investment almost crippled me.
> I also had hurricane Sandy destroy virtually everything I owned. 

Thanks for the stories, great stuff.

> some of my friends are still working for big blue.
> They are making 100k a year and starving.

I make 6k a year and I'm fat&happy.

  Health ( mental and physical ) is everything.
  Money is just a stupid game, like poker -- the house always wins;
  it's a tax on people who can't do math -- I'm a mathematician.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--5.39am.Seattle.2018
        HughHuntzinger  310e680a-a2cc-42e6-8d3d-ffe60e964738@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.45am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  c75bb5d1-a427-430b-9323-0150b086118a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.10pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|48 Top; 4.7 Hours, GoogleG, 185.220.101.16,  Jan 23 {  5: 1pm, 2018 }:28^(PST)  WΘʂɘ
      I see it all, the good and the bad.

> Barron Trump is autistic, destroyed by "preventive" medicine....

We've no evidence of that... zero, zip, nada.

> > Health ( mental and physical ) is everything.
> 
> How do yo keep yo mental health?  
> Is the 4k monitor and Win10 all what is needed
> to keep yo in shape at this age??

Work ( for money ), Usenet, Google, 
WikiPedia and YouTube help, I think.

I program bank simulations for "The Bankers" ( ABA.COM )
and I manage a 32 unit rooming house.

Four of my tenants died, one was a drug overdose.
Two lost their minds ( self medicating ).
I see it all, the good and the bad.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--1.52am.Seattle.2018
        Arindam_Banerjee│  139029ef-659c-4e4a-bfc9-a23249d80ac8@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  6VK9C.198661$%a1.3509@fx35.iad
    Arindam_Banerjee│  4d53a196-8574-42fe-a5dd-144c7ec7587e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--2.27pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|91 Dropped; 47.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 23 {  1:31pm, 2018 }:26^(PST)  WΘɟɖ
      Hollywood is dead, long live Usenet and YouTube.

> It is not that talent does not exist - 
> it just does not manifest in TV and movies. 
> 
> There is plenty of talent [ online ],
> like email, whatsapp, facebook, youtube, etc.

Amen brother.  Hollywood is dead, long live Usenet and YouTube.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--1.52am.Seattle.2018
      HerbertGlazier  50732d2a-0d49-4f74-8eb5-7524074e614d@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  f7N9C.582512$4Z6.190352@fx41.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--2.16pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|403 Dropped; 36 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds,  Jan 23 {   :42pm, 2018 }:39^(-5)  WΘɗd
      The Trump mirror.

> You must be pretty ugly, Bert, since you are the Biggest liar here.
> Did you EVER ship anything to HVAC from M&M ? the answer is no, I bet.
> It's all lies, worse than Trump, worse than ANY GOPer.

Bert wants us to believe that he's righteously rich, not evil poor;
meanwhile, he proclaims " You're mafia, evil "
as he gazes into " The Trump mirror ". 
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--5.39am.Seattle.2018
    HughHuntzinger  310e680a-a2cc-42e6-8d3d-ffe60e964738@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.45am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|63 Top; 27.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Jan 23 {  5:51am, 2018 }:28^(PST)  WΘIι
      Donald thinks Barron will carry forward his work... but will he ? !

> > Landlords can/do operate at a loss because property values are soaring.
> 
> At times, this does happen -- but the money isn't real until 
> it is cashed out.  This is the same mistake that people are 
> making in watching their 401k balances.  

" The median price of a single-family home in Seattle [ Nov 2017 ] 
  grew 17.6 percent from a year prior. " -- Seattle Times.

No one wants to live in RightWing, conservative, religious places
like Arkansas and Syria -- so they escape to Seattle and London.

OnLine it's the same, everyone rushes to the liberal, modern sites,
with porn leading the way -- porn created the internet.

Originally, YouTube was to be called BoobTube, a place where 
one could view Janet Jackson's boob ( Super Bowl, 2004 );
they changed the name because they didn't want to be "just porn".

My (Chinese) landlord cashes out every 5 years (refinancing), 
making a hefty profit.  The money is put into a whole life policy
so nothing, no lawsuit, can take it.

He's poor ( and sick, from cancer ) but, when he dies,
his young wife ( and son ) will be rich.
In China, males inherit everything but must take care of the family.

Sadly, his son will be American, not Chinese,
so he'll probably just blow it, like a lottery winner.

> However, the new tax bill does contain some really interesting 
> "rewards" specific to real estate.  If I've read it correctly, 
> the change is that one can not only keep on rolling profits 
> forward tax-free via reinvestments, but now when you die, the
> Estate gets a tax-free transfer with a jump up in cost basis
> for the next generation.  Yes, a multi-generational tax-free 
> wealth propagation loophole for the "haves".

Melania and her child, Barron Trump, 
are the (lottery) winners here, not Donald.
Donald thinks Barron will carry forward his work... but will he ? !

My landlord agrees with Trump, big time.

So there you have it, health ( mental and physical ) is everything.
Money is just a stupid game, like poker -- the house always wins;
it's a tax on people who can't do math -- I'm a mathematician/programmer.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--5.39am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      To get really, really rich, all you need is capital gains, not profits.

To get really, really rich, all you need is capital gains, not profits.

Landlords can/do operate at a loss because property values are soaring.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--1.52am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Trump is a giant mirror, and Hollywood can't look away.

  Trump is a giant mirror, and Hollywood can't look away.
  " Look at that ugly racist ", they say.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.01pm.Seattle.2018
    Pabst_Blue_Ribbon│pabst@blue_  gmv8C.520249$iX.382173@fx39.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--5.01pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|15 Cool; 1.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 19 {  3:41pm, 2018 }:    WΕϜк
      Your imagination has failed you.

> Can you clarify how you make a living on $6000 a year? 

My rent is under 400 per month because I manage my 32 unit rooming house.
Also, I have savings.

> 1. You don't include some sources of income in your taxes 
> (i.e. you make more than $6000 but lying to the government.)

No.

> 2. You have some big savings in your bank (or under your bed, or whatever),
> which you also have to mention when you file your taxes.
> In that case, you would owe more than $400 in taxes.

Checking Accounts aren't taxed.

> 3. You're already on food stamps and other forms of governmental support.
> 
> So which one is it?

None of the above; your imagination has failed you.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--3.07pm.Seattle.2018
    AndrzejMatuch  4s716d5mv1t7u10mrkoi7m8u4pmcaeimlt@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--2.52pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|18 Cool; 8 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 18 {  5:24am, 2018 }:37^(-5)  WΔϼb
      Religious nuts are killing hookers.

> > Muslims are flooding into Liberal Europe, to escape RightWing Oppression. 
> 
> Idiot. You mean Islamic totalitarianism.

No, they're fleeing the religious right, THE HARD HARD RIGHT,
worse than Canada's ( already bad ) religious right.

Canada's religious right -intentionally- puts sex workers at risk,
to teach them a lesson, to reduce their numbers.
Yes, Canada's religious nuts are killing hookers.

> > Liberal America is thriving, and Communist China is taking note, 
> > as will every nation, eventually. 
> 
> Idiot again. America is thriving under _Conservative_ Trump.

China has no pronography; even WikiPedia is banned.
China's leaders make Trump look like Bernie Sanders on meth.

> > Capitalism ( Supply and Demand ) made UltraGay San Francisco 
> > the most expensive place to rent ( in America ); 
> > rent is cheap in Christian RightWing, GodFearing Arkansas. 
> 
> California is so expensive to rent in that people are living in tents
> on the side of bike paths. THAT is what liberalism does to your country.

It's pay to play.  No pay, no play.
This is capitalism, no "iron rice bowls".

> > The same goes for OnLine properties. 
> > Liberal Amazon is thriving, with a thriving community, 
> > while Christian WalMart struggles, closing down stores. 
> 
> increasingly lazy people use it. 

Hard working people, people with little time to shop,
use Amazon, and they don't want RightWing Censorship.

P.S. I get no welfare, no SS checks, no Medicare, etc.;
     instead, I pay into it ( Social Security and Medicare ).
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            MichaelMoroney  p3msvn$l06$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.40pm.Seattle.2018
        MichaelMoroney  p3odll$ht5$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--4.39pm.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  p3pa1o$mfo$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--10.24pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    -Dropped, 26.3 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 17 {  9: 7pm, 2018 }: 4  WΔʫȶ
      Seattle gives us Strong, LeakProof Dumpsters.

> you make more work for yourself, having to empty the container
> once it's either too disgusting or when full.

It's NEVER disgusting, you can't smell it;
I empty it once every 5 weeks.

> > Landfills are isolated from the water shed.
> 
> But dumpsters aren't.

Seattle gives us Strong, LeakProof Dumpsters;
anything else would be disgusting, if not illegal.

> I hear it rains a lot in Seattle.

Yes, and the dumpster has a lid.
When dumping it, the garbage man waits for the liquid
to drain out ( it takes awhile, time enough to chat ).

> > I keep it well sealed, in 3-mil contractor bags.
> 
> You hope.

No, I know for a fact; you, on the other hand, 
sit back and dream of random crap that isn't true.

> There are no sharp objects in dumpsters.

Once every 5 weeks, dude; and it's well protected
because I put it in a large, discarded container 
( of which there are Far Too Many, taking up too much room ).

> There are no such things as garbage trucks with compactors 
> which rupture bags within them or force sharp objects into them.

FYI, "dumpster juice" already smells like death and decay.

> There are no homeless people who dumpster dive, 
> who just may find one of your unpleasant surprises.

Most dumpster divers already have HIV and hepatitis.
Every dumpster has shit, piss, dumpster juice, etc.;
lots of sharp objects, including hypodermic needles.

> And you still haven't explained why you complain 
> about people with cars.

I never complained about cars; I wrote:

  Why do you drive a car, instead of walking ?
  Myself, I've no need for a car.
  The VittlesVault is faster and easier, like your car.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.55am.Seattle.2018
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        MichaelMoroney  p3msvn$l06$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.40pm.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  p3odll$ht5$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--4.39pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|6 Dropped; 3.3 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 17 {  1: 2pm, 2018 }:45  WΔɚʥ
      Landfills are isolated from the water shed.

> > How much are you going to fine me if you find diapers,
> > cat litter and/or bottles of piss ?
> 
> Consider how diseases such as cholera or virulent E Coli strains are spread.

Landfills are isolated from the water shed.
Human and Pet Waste are allowed in dumpsters, no fines.
Unlike others, I keep mine well sealed, in 3-mil contractor bags.
    Amazon.COM/Husky-HK42WC032B-42-Gallon-Contractor-Clean-Up/dp/B001BBHILG

The VittlesVault is faster and easier, like your car.
    Amazon.COM/Vittles-Outback-Airtight-Storage-Container/dp/B002Q7SZ2A

Myself, I've no need for a car.
I use my BeachComber MacWagon to haul gallons of milk and such.
    Amazon.COM/Mac-Sports-Collapsible-Folding-Terrain/dp/B008DJDUPM

NonPerishables from Amazon, mostly.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--8.01pm.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.13am.Seattle.2018
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.43pm.Seattle.2018
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--4.19pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    +-, 6.1 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 17 {  3:15pm, 2018 }:27  WΔɰθ
      Bounty Select-a-Size "Huge" Rolls, 1.5 cents per HalfSheet.

> Up and down stairs is good exercise.

Yes but I still avoid it.

> Why do some people go to a gym to work out with weights
> but seem to have something against the added workout volume
> they can get by returning the plates to the stack?

It's natural to avoid physical work.
Going to the gym would be a vanity thing,
were "it" ( good looks ) not a job requirement.

Mostly, I use paper towels to clean plates and containers.
I wipe myself with paper towels, not toilet paper.
I run through a shit ton of Bounty Select-a-Size "Huge" Rolls.

1 "Huge" Roll = 2.5 "Regular" Rolls. 
4¢/SqFt, 1.5 cents per HalfSheet ( 2900 / ( 158*12 ) )
at Amazon, WalMart or HomeDepot.
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        MrChrisV  qb2v5dd5j88ibrpo0ifflhkh9rrse32atf@4ax.com
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  f5df33ef-e3db-4f18-97c4-2f69bf5d1f3f@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  5a6c32b8-4568-4500-94fe-caa2f9d858d6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--3.07pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|68 Top; 1 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Jan 17 { 11:37am, 2018 }:11^(PST)  WΔɄȽ
      Muslims are flooding into Liberal Europe, to escape RightWing Oppression.

Muslims are flooding into Liberal Europe, to escape RightWing Oppression.

Liberal America is thriving, and Communist China is taking note,
as will every nation, eventually.

Capitalism ( Supply and Demand ) made UltraGay San Francisco
the most expensive place to rent ( in America );
rent is cheap in Christian RightWing, GodFearing Arkansas.

The same goes for OnLine properties.
Liberal Amazon is thriving, with a thriving community,
while Christian WalMart struggles, closing down stores.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--4.45pm.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--8.01pm.Seattle.2018
        Owl  xuibu.hga0@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.13am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  yuga99b3.ahui3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|87 Cool; 46 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 17 { 11:51am, 2018 }:46  WΔɌϑ
      The BLTPress Stair Climber Truck.

> There are hand trucks that are designed especially for stairs work
> (six wheels on a central axle that flip around as you go up or down).
> Strap the can on one and you're good to go.

Just now, I paid $153 (10%tax) for the BLTPress Stair Climber Truck;
5ft tall, light (Aluminum), and rigid (NonFolding).
  Amazon.COM/gp/product/B0768GR2RK

> I used a two-wheel hand truck/dolly (with air-filled tires) to pull
> about fifteen loads of heavy tubs full of books *up* stairs.
> Milwaukee-800-lb-Capacity-Red-Steel-Convertible-Hand-Truck/50042446
> The handle slides out and can be positioned at 90 degrees to push
> stuff around on four wheels.

Not fun, stair climber trucks let you rest after each step.

> > Tenants leave tons of crap in rooms when they move out;
> > it's a HEAVY stream of discarded beds, couches and desks.
> 
> None of that sounds like stuff you would carry down a garbage can.

There was a huge box of VHS tapes, for example.
Bedding, Clothes, small appliances, fans, lamps, etc.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--1.01pm.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--4.45pm.Seattle.2018
        Owl  wowup11.bho@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--8.01pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  xuibu.hga0@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.13am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|86 Cool; 10 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 17 { 10: 4am, 2018 }:20  WΔyВ
      No kitchen, no bath, no bedroom; JUST A ROOM, 3 people.

> not suggesting that you walk it down the stairs
> held over your head, crazy person.

I'd rest the garbage can on my back, if I could
( it's too tall, and/or too heavy );
when it's in front of me, I slip because I can't see the steps.
I'm constantly worried about falling down the stairs.

> > Glass, ceramic, and wet stuff is about 8 pounds per gallon.
> > Bulky stuff is - Thee Worst - because I have to empty it more often.
> 
> Why do you have these big cans on the upper floors?  
> Why not make the tenants take out their own garbage?

Tenants leave tons of crap in rooms when they move out;
it's a HEAVY stream of discarded beds, couches and desks.

So long as they pay the rent and late fees ( or move out ),
I can't make them do anything, apparently.

Seattle does everything it can to NOT evict tenants;
they provide them with OnSite, ProBono lawyers.
If this were Arkansas, I'd just call the cops and be done with it.

I've asked people to move out, but they don't;
often, they can't, even when they want to.

> fiddling with a shit bucket is "faster."

Yes, the VittlesVault is faster and easier, like a car.
No smell, no mess.  Your imagination is simply wrong.

> > Seattle's building inspectors are well informed of it.
> > I've insanely jealous enemies, like you, not just friends.
> 
> So not everyone is happy with the shit bucket.

Normal, sane people are fine with my VittlesVault.

-ONLY- people who smoke (legal) pot, don't go to work, 
lose their job, and can't pay the rent, call the city inspectors.
-ONLY-

One guy has his underaged kids living with him, 
off the lease, and I can't do anything about it.
His POT PARANOIA is off the charts, totally nuts.

The city of Seattle, Child Protective Services,
is doing everything in their power ( incl. legal advice )
to stop them from getting evicted from their -ROOM-.

No kitchen, no bath, no bedroom; JUST A ROOM, 3 people.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--0.37pm.Seattle.2018
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--0.07am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|69 Dropped; 11.3 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 16 { 11:29pm, 2018 }:58  WΓшჴ
      100 million year old microbes reproduce once every 10,000 years.

> Animals, including humans, have an instinct to propagate their DNA.

Reproduction is a community effort; not every moron has to do it.
100 million year old microbes reproduce once every 10,000 years.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--3.09am.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.55am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  szib083g.vvniu@rooftop.invalid
      Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p3lrcg$7cu$2@gioia.aioe.org
    MichaelMoroney  p3msvn$l06$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.40pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|4 Dropped; 10.1 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 16 { 11:11pm, 2018 }:51  WΓхჭ
      Are you going to fly out here, to inspect my dumpster ?

> Disposing of human waste in a landfill or anywhere else other than a 
> proper sewer or septic system is illegal in most places.
> Spreads diseases.

Are you going to fly out here, to inspect my dumpster ?

How much are you going to fine me if you find diapers,
cat litter and/or bottles of piss ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.55am.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--1.01pm.Seattle.2018
        Owl  pz8080b8.ahubu@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--4.45pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  wowup11.bho@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--8.01pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|5 Shifty; 1.7 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 16 {  5:57pm, 2018 }:10  WΓБΟ
      Visit me, if you want.

> > > The shit bucket is gross.  Do these visitors know about it?
> > 
> > Everyone knows.  No smell, nothing gross, just:
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vittles_Vault_.JPG
> 
> Does the Health Department know?  That's gotta break some
> rule for landlords.  Hell, it's probably against the law.

Seattle's building inspectors are well informed of it.
I've insanely jealous enemies, like you, not just friends.

> > Try porting a full, 64 gallon garbage can down 4 flights of stairs,
> > down halls, out into the alley, and into the dumpster.
> > Can you do it ?  10 times ?
> 
> Most of 64-gallon ones I've seen have wheels, and if not, get a dollie.

No wheels, no dollie.

> Unless the thing is loaded with rocks, it can't be that heavy.
> Hell, you said you weigh 240.  You should be able to lift
> a full one over your head no problem.  

That's too awkward, it hits the ceiling too much,
going down 4 flights of stairs,
and, usually, it's too heavy for that.

> An empty one's not going to weigh much more than 30 some pounds,
> and one full of pizza boxes and empty campbell
> soup cans will probably not top out at even 100.

I didn't weigh them, but they get real heavy, sometimes.
Glass, ceramic, and wet stuff is about 8 pounds per gallon.
Bulky stuff is - Thee Worst -, because I have to empty it more often.

> > Like a car, the "bucket" is faster and easier.
> 
> I don't believe your tales of taking out the trash.  I think you
> are a 750 lb blob who can't make it to the bathroom, and you just 
> take a dump in the bed and scrape it off into the bucket.

If that makes you feel better, then run with it.
Or visit me, if you want.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--3.09am.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.55am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  szib083g.vvniu@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--1.01pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  pz8080b8.ahubu@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--4.45pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|87 Cool; 30.5 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 16 {  4: 2pm, 2018 }:24  WΓϠʐ
      Walking is safe, no need to hide in a car.

> > > Shitting in a bucket, and saving it for garbage day,
> > > is beyond disgusting.
> > 
> > Lots of people enjoy talking to me, in my room.
> > No smell, nothing gross, just:  Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vittles_Vault_.JPG
> 
> The shit bucket is gross.  Do these visitors know about it?

Everyone knows; it's fine, not gross.

> > When full, 64 gallon garbage cans are heavy and awkward.
> 
> So you can actually move around and do a few things.

Try porting a full, 64 gallon garbage can down 4 flights of stairs,
down halls, out into the alley, and into the dumpster.
Can you do it ?  10 times ?

> When did you stop using a commode and start using a bucket, and why?

15 years ago, maybe.  Why do you drive a car, instead of walking ?
Same thing, the "bucket" is faster and easier.

> And flushing is not going to suck out your entrails 
> ( as long as you stand up first ).

Likewise, walking is safe, no need to hide in a car.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--3.09am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  sb080bz.3joub3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.55am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  szib083g.vvniu@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--1.01pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|87 Cool; 4.6 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 16 {   :18pm, 2018 }:28  WΓδS
      I'm 6 foot tall, 240 pounds, 58 years old, and physically active.

> Shitting in a bucket, and saving it for garbage day,
> is beyond disgusting.

Lots of people enjoy talking to me, in my room.
No smell, nothing gross, just:  Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vittles_Vault_.JPG

> So I ask again, do you have some kind of physical condition,
> such as extreme obesity, that prevents you from getting up
> and going to the bathroom like a normal human?

I'm 6 foot tall, 240 pounds, 58 years old, and physically active.

Last night, I emptied about 10 garbage cans
( five 45 gallon and five 64 gallon ) into the dumpster,
sorted it ( food waste, recycling and trash ), and packed it down.
After that, I took a 20 minute stroll though the rain.

When full, 64 gallon garbage cans are heavy and awkward.

There's a never ending stream of beds and boxes I have to dispose of.
I use box cutters, of course... lots of boxes and padding.

Due to lack of room ( in the dumpster ) 
I've yet to cut up ( yet another ) BoxSpring+Mattress, 
a massive couch, and a huge, heavy cabinet.
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              MichaelMoroney  p3gibv$nge$2@pcls7.std.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
          MichaelMoroney  p3jrjs$9nn$2@pcls7.std.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
      Owl  x980b032qg.huo4@rooftop.invalid
    MrChrisV  0avr5dpl2dnmlb6h7hvp5in2n840j54p9m@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--0.11pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|122 Dropped; 6.3 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan 16 {  5:28am, 2018 }:26^(-6)  WΓʆИ
      Not a (cheap) community TV, Nor a (cheap) HandHeld.

> > > I've a 4K, 40 inch, curved, ArmMounted monitor ( Win10, updated )
> > > -- lots of people see it, and (jealously) wish they had one;
> > > no one here has anything as nice.  Some losers are ANGRY about it.
> 
> Yeah, because a 40" TV is *so* terribly expensive.
> I can understand why people would be jealous...  (rolling eyes)

It's an ArmMounted Monitor, ArmsLength from my eyes,
Not a (cheap) community TV, Nor a (cheap) HandHeld.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.40pm.Seattle.2018
            MichaelMoroney  p3gibv$nge$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
        MichaelMoroney  p3jrjs$9nn$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  d42ac461-2382-4577-9d67-12da71f3a797@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--0.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|46 Top; 6.9 Hours, GoogleG, 104.236.141.156,  Jan 16 {  4:51am, 2018 }:54^(PST)  WΓʀϚ
      I use g729 and it sounds great.

> > My phone number costs me 85 cents per month ( .9 cents per minute );
> > plus free, unlimited SMS/Texts ( VoIP.MS ).
> 
> Does yo VoIP phone use the superior quality/bandwith g722 codec?

Probably, I haven't tried it.
I use g729 and it sounds great.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
            MichaelMoroney  p3jrjs$9nn$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
        Owl  x980b032qg.huo4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--3.09am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  sb080bz.3joub3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--11.55am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|86 Cool; 7.8 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 16 {  3:57am, 2018 }:57  WΓɷϝ
      Are you a cripple ?

> Why don't you use a commode like normal people?
> Are you a bedridden blob?

Why don't you walk, like a man, instead of riding ?
Are you a cripple ?      Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vittles_Vault_.JPG
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.40pm.Seattle.2018
            MichaelMoroney  p3gibv$nge$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
        MichaelMoroney  p3jrjs$9nn$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  x980b032qg.huo4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.16--3.09am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|86 Cool; 14.7 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 16 {  2:52am, 2018 }:41  WΓɬЧ
      Shitting in a bucket.

> Why do you shit in a bucket?

Why not ?
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              BenJacoby  YPA6C.284872$qe.182104@fx18.iad
            AndrzejMatuch  9grm5d1fe8albs3obik8fcc9c8emsg63qk@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.40pm.Seattle.2018
        MichaelMoroney  p3gibv$nge$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  p3jrjs$9nn$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.26pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|3 Dropped; 18.9 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 15 {  7:30pm, 2018 }: 4  WΓZ4
      I know what I'm doing ( money isn't everything ).

> While I know that money can't buy happiness, it just seems 
> truly bizarre to deliberately put oneself in a situation where
> so many choices have been made for you 
> ( because you just can't afford whatever ).

I feel rich; I have savings, and I'm good at managing money.
Even if I lost my savings, I'd be fine, because I have alternatives.

I eat well; whatever, whenever I want.
I have a well designed, well configured $3,000 desktop computer
because I know what I'm doing ( money isn't everything ).

I've a 4K, 40 inch, curved, ArmMounted monitor ( Win10, updated )
-- lots of people see it, and (jealously) wish they had one;
no one here has anything as nice.  Some losers are ANGRY about it.

Usually, it's set to 222 columns of text, 
but my code automatically ( or Ctrl-Wheel ) zooms to 372 columns;
a toolbar button toggles line wrapping on and off ( usually off ).

My phone number costs me 85 cents per month ( .9 cents per minute );
plus free, unlimited SMS/Texts ( VoIP.MS ).

When I get a call, I pick up on my cordless handset
or hit a mouse button, so it goes to my g633 headset.
The GigaSet-A510A handset is always charged, it never runs out.

Most people couldn't have all this ( above );
not because they're poor, but because they lack the knowledge.
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              Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p38d93$tul$2@gioia.aioe.org
            MrChrisV  9hef5dl3m1ib54333ppls6o6jsubil74ir@4ax.com
          Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p38hk1$15ei$1@gioia.aioe.org
        MrChrisV  qgch5dtt5eonl7uvvtrcisrblj976vl9vl@4ax.com
      Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p3aqcg$fd0$2@gioia.aioe.org
    Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  p3bdj8$1f5k$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.50pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4/7|13 Cool; 3 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 12 {  2:41pm, 2018 }:42^(-6)  Wʯშფ
      Zimbabwe, 2016, 90% of transactions were in US dollars.

> > > > > Using the US dollar would solve the hyper inflation
> > 
> > name a country w hyper inflation that stopped it 
> > by adapting the US dollar.
> 
> we are waiting......   the clock is ticking...

Zimbabwe, 2016, 90% of transactions were in US dollars.

  wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_Zimbabwe#Demonetization
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            ChrisAhlstrom  p2t5e3$l9g$3@dont-email.me
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  b6bc7e06-4cad-4b0e-a648-a53d8e0aca25@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  stqm5dppoiforgtmieeq8k93u7eba6mkpp@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  052eba7b-463e-4d06-94fa-83048e7f33ee@googlegroups.com
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  6950e35f-28eb-4540-ab3f-23933087f05d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.14pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 15/18|60 Cool; 1.1 Days, GoogleG,  Jan 14 { 11: 9am, 2018 }:37^(PST)  WΒȽς
      You (TheSham) work for a bitch that decides your every move.

You (TheSham) work for a bitch that decides your every move,
not "a Trump-supporting Republican".
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              HughHuntzinger  2a3302b7-e52f-46d8-9dbc-43073ef1febb@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  mh2f5ddsc7uf5vl74f6842d8na4nomsv2d@4ax.com
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  e0d00c3d-c0b3-49a1-a1e0-2cf5085a6d73@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  419e3bc0-7ed1-4dc9-b5e8-63d37442a9a2@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  73262012-effe-4f13-bf40-daffef97ecac@googlegroups.com
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  bac1fc29-8535-4eb7-ba7d-90871188b27c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--3.08pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 11/18|60 Cool; 4.1 Days, GoogleG,  Jan 11 {   :51pm, 2018 }:29^(PST)  Wʯɘκ
      Maureen is forced to work through her jealousy about his masturbation.

> [WalMart] is shifting from brick and mortar to ecommerce.

WalMart doesn't have the OnLine community that Amazon enjoys.
And they're so UltraChristianRight they don't even sell FleshLights;
dildos, yes; FleshLights no.

When you search for it, you get a book called " Masturbating Husband ",
under " Books > Literature & Fiction > Fiction > Romance > Erotica > General ";
no description, no photos, no reviews.

Amazon has it, of course, see:

  Amazon.com/Masturbating-Husband-Kate-Addario/dp/1537339168
  "Maureen is forced to work through her jealousy about his masturbation"
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              Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  fib14d9mekusgr88ktrkiqiibne847cekq@4ax.com
            Brick│brick@mortar_invalid  p1qoa0$qnr$1@dont-email.me
          Bob_F│bobnospam@gmail_com  p1rv7q$dle$1@dont-email.me
        Brick│brick@mortar_invalid  p1s3lf$4al$1@dont-email.me
      Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid  73r44d5e22k8hiac1u97cvjhpemft0c8ao@4ax.com
    Brick│brick@mortar_invalid  p1tta6$i81$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--0.37pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.Sys.Mac.Advocacy
    ╱ 3/14|22 Cool; 2.9 Weeks, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 26 {  8:27am, 2017 }:50  Wʤʤϖ
      If your woman fucks you, -and- others too, you've hit the jackpot.

> If sexually experienced women are such the rage, 
> why do men fly into a rage upon discovering their wife had a lover.
> According to you, that would be a good thing, 
> she would be gathering experience points.

If your woman fucks you, -and- others too, you've hit the jackpot.
More likely, she'll dump you for her new lover.
If you don't need the validation, stay single.

> There are a plethora of terms for women who have multiple sexual
> partners, and I'm not aware of any women that self describe using
> those terms.  Men prefer virgins is why.

On YouTube, "SlutEver" proudly calls herself a slut.
She interviews people for VICE and fucks them on ( and off ) camera.
  YouTube.com/watch?v=Vg5zRxLErnw

Also on YouTube, Angela White proudly tells us
about her stable of "lovers" (fuckers).

Here, "Kissa Sins" tells us how she enjoys fucking other men ( and women ),
not just her main man, "Johnny Sins":  YouTube.com/watch?v=BfjorhcH0xg
If -YOU- could get that, you would, I'm sure.
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              Bob_F│bobnospam@gmail_com  p1rvc1$dle$2@dont-email.me
            AndrzejMatuch  oq034d9tc1o1ld1umg9k0pga1toftgheot@4ax.com
          Bob_F│bobnospam@gmail_com  p1s0er$mq2$1@dont-email.me
        AndrzejMatuch  c4734dhgrp9ma9vu016d401tk9scnsc943@4ax.com
      Hamilcar_Barca│hmbarcaspamnope  p1s7ta$pi0$1@dont-email.me
    Brick│brick@mortar_invalid  p1s8rk$1f7$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--1.30am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 7/21|22 Cool; 2.9 Weeks, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 25 {  5:32pm, 2017 }:36  WʤFʜ
      I'm 6.4 cm, like the statue of David.

> > > Wouldn't you rather date someone who's sagging everywhere
> > > than someone at their prime ?

In Theory:

  Small "girls" (adults) would be fun to pick up, if allowed;
  but OlderAndWiser is better -- personality is EVERYTHING.
  Also, I prefer:  Jeff-Relf.Me/Lanky.Boobs.JPG

In Reality:

  " Put on a condom and I'll think about it ", she says.
  " No tubectomy, I'll tell you if you must be a daddy or not ".
  " I'll cast aspersions on you, publically, 
    so everyone assumes the worst, destroying your reputation ".
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              AndrzejMatuch  eipk3dds6esjaldso0qtj4106gqa6csb3h@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  df03abd5-c4c9-4296-84e6-7b3d16d320a5@googlegroups.com
          AndrzejMatuch  ckil3dpaqqm6if6f7tl1iq3ulego0sg3oj@4ax.com
        sambo│sambo1960@atheist_com  p1ei76$ee5$2@dont-email.me
      AndrzejMatuch  jbpl3dd37on9phapo1r559qd99d2mkpj2s@4ax.com
    SteveCarroll  47f2aa51-1681-4b98-b5a9-649c310c2135@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--9.39pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 5/34|45 Cool; 3.6 Weeks, GoogleG,  Dec 20 {  2:51pm, 2017 }:57^(PST)  Wʠϓϝ
      I love it when you get all butt hurt about paying taxes,

I love it when you (SteveCarroll) get all butt hurt about paying taxes,
as it reasures me that I made the right decisions, being single and all.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.17am.Seattle.2018
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  69bba84f-e07c-42be-9256-0a49697ab6b8@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  f9sn5dh0374apa0t87t6ok85el7todcdud@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--5.32pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/6|272 Mad; 1.2 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 14 {  4: 9pm, 2018 }:47^(-5)  WΒɹϒ
      Bottoms Andrzej and TheSham need approval, I don't.

> > I [TheSham] like being the bottom, whipped hard.
> 
> I'm shocked that women find a hippy who lives 
> off of social assistance and "earns" [$6k] a year unappealing.

You bottoms ( Andrzej and TheSham ) need approval, I don't;
and you need to lie about me, saying I get assistance, when I don't.
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.01pm.Seattle.2018
          BenJacoby  YPA6C.284872$qe.182104@fx18.iad
        AndrzejMatuch  9grm5d1fe8albs3obik8fcc9c8emsg63qk@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.40pm.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  p3gibv$nge$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    -Dropped, 1.1 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 14 {  1:33pm, 2018 }:51  WΒɟϗ
      You married people are always miserable, complaining.

> > You ( Ben Jacoby and Andrzej Matuch ) are getting raped at gun point
> > because you're pussies... I'm not.
> 
> I don't know what to say about someone [ making 6k/year ] 
> "boasting" about not being "raped".

You married people ( Ben, Andrzej and Mike ) are always miserable, complaining;
meanwhile, I'm single and loving life.  Coincidence ?
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.17am.Seattle.2018
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  69bba84f-e07c-42be-9256-0a49697ab6b8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--1.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/21|65 Cool; 3.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Jan 14 {  8:51am, 2018 }:16^(PST)  WΒmΦ
      "The Sham" is a bottom.

> You don't "promote" abstinence.  You've just never been able to get laid.

.... said you, "The Sham", looking in the mirror.

You're a bottom, you need the validation of a mean bitch, as she whips you.
" Put on a condom and I'll think about it ", she says.
" No tubectomy, I'll tell you if you have to be a daddy or not ".
" I'll cast aspersions on you, publically, so everyone assumes the worst,
  destroying your reputation ".

Enjoy.
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.01pm.Seattle.2018
      BenJacoby  YPA6C.284872$qe.182104@fx18.iad
    AndrzejMatuch  9grm5d1fe8albs3obik8fcc9c8emsg63qk@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.40pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/6|279 Mad; 5.1 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 14 {  6:49am, 2018 }:58^(-5)  WΒSɶ
      I'm paying the IRS, not taking anything.

> > So the bottom line is that like most libs you are basically unemployable 
> > and in order to live you must have money taken at gunpoint from those 
> > who actually can hold real jobs. Got it.
> 
> +10,001

I'm paying the IRS, not taking anything.
If, in the future, I need some help, 
the government is there, like an insurance company.

You ( Ben Jacoby and Andrzej Matuch ) are getting raped at gun point
because you're pussies... I'm not.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.01pm.Seattle.2018
    AndrzejMatuch  rarm5dtr3dbio9ablssnddo37gvaa91la0@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.34pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/6|279 Mad; 5.1 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 14 {  6:47am, 2018 }:54^(-5)  WΒRჰ
      I gave the IRS access to my bank account.

> > I filed my 2017 taxes, CostFree, using "FreeTaxUSA.COM"; 
> > I owe $411 for the $6,000 I made last year. 
> 
> Pay up, hippy. You wouldn't want something to happen
> to that cardboard shelter of yours, would you?

I gave the IRS access to my bank account;
once they approve my paper work, they'll withdraw the $411.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--2.30am.Seattle.2018
            TakuyaSaitoh  5a70f4dd-46de-498d-ba75-469da8ca3bc6@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.13pm.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  e7175503-292b-49f3-9d2e-f27f73cd409b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--1.22am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  42dd7cb9-39c9-4f07-a0b7-ba5e32db28ce@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--0.25pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|46 Top; 6.3 Hours, GoogleG, 89.31.57.5,  Jan 14 {  5:34am, 2018 }:59^(PST)  WΒFй
      You can breathe longer (granny) or faster (Sumo), pick one.

> > Your every breath shortens your life.
> 
> Will yo live longer if yo stop breathing?

You can breathe longer (granny) or faster (Sumo), pick one.

Either way, "we" ( you, me and the stars ) 
consume what we can, given our "options".
Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--2.17am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Great News for those of us who promote abstinence.

Seriously, I love how modern women are casting aspersions,
assuming the worst, to destroy men's reputations.

Also, I love how they insist on rubbers and/or pulling out,
instead of getting tubal ligations, so men aren't tempted.

This is great news for those of us who promote abstinence, 
better than I could ever have hoped for, years ago.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--2.51pm.Seattle.2018
            TakuyaSaitoh  c57dc01c-790e-4b87-bb87-a940e6bcd693@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--2.30am.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  5a70f4dd-46de-498d-ba75-469da8ca3bc6@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.13pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  e7175503-292b-49f3-9d2e-f27f73cd409b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--1.22am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|46 Top; 5.1 Hours, GoogleG, 176.10.99.200,  Jan 13 {  8: 7pm, 2018 }:31^(PST)  WΑЧɛ
      Your every breath shortens your life.

> > With every breath, air ( oxygen ) shortens your life.
> 
> breathing air doesn't cause cancer

Yes it does, Google:  Free-Radicals Cancer

  In aerobic life, oxidative stress arises from both 
  endogenous and exogenous sources.  Despite antioxidant 
  defence mechanisms, cell damage from oxygen free 
  radicals (OFR) is ubiquitous.  OFR-related lesions 
  that do not cause cell death can stimulate the 
  development of cancer.  

Your every breath shortens your life.

> sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071009082406.htm

I'm not a woman, nor PreAdolescent, and I don't use DDT.
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  3bc1e210-478f-4ec4-87a8-6c075f5542f7@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  613g5d58jali3v7gjcquofv34853q2u22l@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  a6bc82da-f9a0-44d0-ab94-a313a056978d@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  qbgh5dh25ej704he3otk7jqcja3vkg45jj@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  9140df6a-211a-43ef-9abb-7cb4cc7c7037@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  9c22c93f-844d-4c96-92d9-30435404624f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.56pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|59 Top; 34.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.44.71,  Jan 13 {  6:29pm, 2018 }:32^(PST)  WΑЖლ
      Android is the most successful distro because Google invested in it.

> > > > > > after 6 years of BitCoin, naysayers are still crying "Tulipmania" !
> > 
> > When Warren Buffet becomes a believer, I'll consider it myself:
> > theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/10/bitcoin-and-cryptocurrencies-will-come-to-a-bad-end-says-warren-buffett

Warren Buffet gave Bill Gates' charity most of his assets;
yet he won't buy Gates' assets; no MicroSoft, no Amazon, no Google, etc.
Besides, he's already won the silly game ( of wealth accumulation ).

> Or perhaps it will suffice to note that the organizers of the Bitcoin conference 
> stopped accepting the very same currency that they're trying to promote?  
> cnbc.com/2018/01/10/bitcoin-conference-stops-accepting-cryptocurrency-payments.html

Like Linux distros, CryptoCurrencies multiply like rabbits, 1,384+ so far.
Android is the most successful distro because Google invested in it.
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            TakuyaSaitoh  c6972757-829e-418f-9d83-72c51c633315@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--2.51pm.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  c57dc01c-790e-4b87-bb87-a940e6bcd693@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--2.30am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  5a70f4dd-46de-498d-ba75-469da8ca3bc6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.13pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|46 Top; 49.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.212.233.139,  Jan 13 {  6:14pm, 2018 }: 8^(PST)  WΑДʀ
      With every breath, air ( oxygen ) shortens your life.

> > Get a one gallon "Lawn and Garden Sprayer",
> > and an 8 Oz bottle of "Demand CS" ( which makes 20 gallons ),
> > so you can spray around your bed.
> > 
> > The spray slowly kills for months, like DDT, only stronger;
> > you may need to spray two or three times, weeks apart.
> > 
> > When wet, the spray irriates your skin; dry, it's OK.
> > After spraying, wash your hands and face.
> 
> > Cocaine, Caffine and Opium are natural pesticides;
> > so, given the right dose, you shouldn't fear them.
> 
> These pesticides are hormone disruptors and cause cancer :-(

With every breath, air ( oxygen ) shortens your life.

> How about plain garlic?

I don't know, try it.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--7.01pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      I owe $411 for the $6,000 I made last year.

I filed my 2017 taxes, CostFree, using "FreeTaxUSA.COM";
I owe $411 for the $6,000 I made last year.

All of it was "Self Employment" ( Social Security, Medicare ) taxes;
I would've owed twice as much ( 14% instead of 7% ),
if it wasn't for the Earned Income Credit.

I was exempt from the HealthCareInsurance requirement,
due to my low income.

1099-MISC records are not eFiled to the IRS like a W-2 forms are,
so the IRS wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't filed at all;
but I filed anyway, in case I need SocialSecurityRetirement,
Medicare, SSI ( Supplemental Security Income ) and/or FoodStamps someday.
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        TakuyaSaitoh  c6972757-829e-418f-9d83-72c51c633315@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--2.51pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  c57dc01c-790e-4b87-bb87-a940e6bcd693@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--2.30am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|54 Top; 35.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 5.254.79.66,  Jan 13 {  1:15am, 2018 }:29^(PST)  WΑɜκ
      If you're itchy, take a shower.

> I have a problem with bed bugs apparently... 
> Very itchy upper body and the skin specialist says
> it's mite bites; damn, how do I get rid of them ?

BedBugs and mites are two different things.

For 7 years now, I've managed a 32 unit Rooming house.
So I know that BedBugs makes some people go stark raving mad,
to the point where they can't think straight.

I can solve their problem, if they're HalfWay sane,
and willing to work with me; I tell them:

  If you're itchy, take a shower.

  To kill the bugs and their eggs, put your clothes and bedding
  in the dryer, on high, for 20 minutes.

  Put encasements on your matteress and BoxSpring.
  The "Sleep Defense System" ( from "Hospitology" ), BoxSpring version,
  is best for BOTH the mattress and BoxSpring.

  Get a one gallon "Lawn and Garden Sprayer",
  and an 8 Oz bottle of "Demand CS" ( which makes 20 gallons ),
  so you can spray around your bed.

  The spray slowly kills for months, like DDT, only stronger;
  you may need to spray two or three times, weeks apart.

  When wet, the spray irriates your skin; dry, it's OK.
  After spraying, wash your hands and face.

  Cocaine, Caffine and Opium are natural pesticides;
  so, given the right dose, you shouldn't fear them.
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    TakuyaSaitoh  c6972757-829e-418f-9d83-72c51c633315@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--2.51pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 4/4|58 Top; 7.6 Hours, GoogleG, 178.62.230.233,  Jan 12 {  4:52am, 2018 }:53^(PST)  Wʯ϶г
      News.MB-Net.NET:119  or  News.Individual.NET:119

> Anyone knows some NNTP server giving read access 
> to the text only sci.* groups???  textnews.news.cambrium.nl is GONE :-(

To post, use a binary server, e.g.:
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--1.49am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  22467dfe-ac80-4431-8a2f-ed5edb56ecb7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--0.40pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/4|58 Top; 7.8 Hours, GoogleG, 192.36.27.6,  Jan 12 {  4:40am, 2018 }:22^(PST)  WʯϴД
      They're so damn wealthy, like rock stars, they die at 27.

> > Wealth can damage your health.
> > Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, loved being a high roller;
> > once it came to an end, as it had to, he couldn't handle it.
> > 
> > Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
> > 
> > ExtremeVegan (Fruitarian) Steve Jobs died at age 56.
> > Wealthy Seattle has 12k homeless kids and rampant street drugs.
> 
> The homeless kids won't make it past 50, or would they, cancer free??

They're so damn wealthy, like rock stars, they die at 27;
they don't have to work and they spend thousand$$ per month on drugs.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.12--1.49am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Wealth can damage your health.

Wealth can damage your health.
Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, loved being a high roller;
once it came to an end, as it had to, he couldn't handle it.

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.

ExtremeVegan (Fruitarian) Steve Jobs died at age 56.
Wealthy Seattle has 12k homeless kids and rampant street drugs.
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              MichaelGlasser  D66AA29F.C013C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
            Owl  pelo3a.jbio3@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--0.34am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  f8z008b803.u0@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--10.40am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  szz90b03.auoe@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--1.00pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/24|94 Cool; 3.4 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 11 {   :50pm, 2018 }:11  Wʯɘʃ
      Gimp is the best way to edit a screenshot.

> > Gimp is the best way to edit a screenshot.
> > If you don't know how, Google it.
> 
> Who said anything about *editing* a screenshot?

You did, Dec 28th; quoting "pelo3a.jbio3@rooftop.invalid":

  > Clearly and unambiguously you are visually selecting the center
  > and then selecting the size by numbers with a slider.

  The program is controlling the *mouse*, which uses screen *coordinates*,
  whether you move it and click it manually or programmatically.  
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              AndrzejMatuch  inbc5dlq7su5csojfigku01h61od0l8p6f@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  e7e2533f-12c2-4d4d-b80b-a2232f0ba031@googlegroups.com
          AndrzejMatuch  jh5d5d9sbbd7n9ml84cdodv69dg2v09djm@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  7206f8f4-ac3e-48d7-a841-e317c3865108@googlegroups.com
      AndrzejMatuch  78pe5d577ghukq2gpds002dj0skp99rpsd@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  2a3302b7-e52f-46d8-9dbc-43073ef1febb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--10.49am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|54 Top; 45.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Jan 11 {  7:21am, 2018 }:43^(PST)  WʯXψ
      Wikipedia is the most accurate thing the world has ever seen.

Wikipedia is the most accurate thing the world has ever seen.
Breitbart, on the other hand, is breathless mania.
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              MichaelGlasser  D66A89A8.C0110%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
            Owl  sz9xc0v803.ahboe4@rooftop.invalid
          MichaelGlasser  D66AA29F.C013C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
        Owl  pelo3a.jbio3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--0.34am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  f8z008b803.u0@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--10.40am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/24|93 Cool; 15.1 Minutes, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 11 {  7:52am, 2018 }:12  WʯcϺ
      Gimp is the best way to edit a screenshot.

> Seriously?  Just to save a screenshot you gotta load gimp?

Gimp is the best way to edit a screenshot.
If you don't know how, Google it.
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              MrChrisV  vgcc5d1npam62h0ccsna7ssm6d0igtbhir@4ax.com
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  41a9e905-f07c-4038-a4ee-424daf48419b@googlegroups.com
          HughHuntzinger  c1819217-ba93-4296-b331-486127e415f7@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--1.09pm.Seattle.2018
      AndrzejMatuch  1j6d5d1n26mk53psbrh5n2lekr6acf5nk1@4ax.com
    MrChrisV  vrne5d1fpn6ri1fu8gpqgl3jf4bctreg7a@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.11--8.50am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|127 Dropped; 3 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan 11 {  5: 9am, 2018 }:19^(-6)  WʯBΩ
      The cold war is alive and well in North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba.

> > > Asia is Westernising, following the South Korean model. 
> > > North Korea would follow if China and Russia allowed it. 
> 
> North Korea is not being held-back by China or Russia, fool.

At a glance, any fool ( other than you, Mr ChrisV ) can tell that 
the cold war is alive and well in North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba.

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro even looks like chairman Mao:
FM.cNBC.COM/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/11/06/104823375-RTS1GV7Z-nicolas-maduro.jpg
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  defb399c-8315-41ba-8bee-fd2d2e28c9f9@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  sp5c5d9hm43gtgq729gv22l2mcmvqfvjjf@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  13158ab7-e96f-49bc-87f3-ecba02593761@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  vgcc5d1npam62h0ccsna7ssm6d0igtbhir@4ax.com
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  41a9e905-f07c-4038-a4ee-424daf48419b@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  c1819217-ba93-4296-b331-486127e415f7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--1.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|48 Top; 48.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Jan 10 { 11:44am, 2018 }: 3^(PST)  WʮΧɻ
      Venezuela's government is dying.

Asia is Westernizing, following the South Korean model.
North Korea would follow if China and Russia allowed it.
Muslims must follow as well, and they know it.

Venezuela and Cuba too.  Venezuela's government is dying.

"Shoppers Find Empty Shelves After Venezuela Orders Discounts"
By Andrew Rosati, January 10, 2018

  Venezuela’s opposition-led National Assembly 
  estimates that prices rose 85 percent last month, 
  with annualized inflation of more than 2,600 percent in 2017. 
  The central bank has stopped publishing regular economic indicators.
      [...]
  Business leaders said the price cuts did away with 
  what little capital many supermarkets had.    

  “ Now we’re in a situation where stores simply don’t 
    have the cash to restock. ”, said Maria Carolina Uzcategui,
  “ Shortages will go from bad to critical. ”  
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  6f84f0e8-67e5-40d1-a727-2ce0a446de3d@googlegroups.com
    MrChrisV  tscc5d18uknqgc5o2aa01l4e5n8a1qee41@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--9.55am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|124 Dropped; 1.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Jan 10 {  7:40am, 2018 }:24^(-6)  WʮʜЖ
      (Japanese) Sex Toys are more popular than (Mandingo) reality.

> > > Is it a coincidence that those with the smallest dicks ( Japan )
> > > have the lowest BirthRate and those with the largest dicks
> > > ( Muslim Mandingos ) have the highest BirthRate ?
> > 
> > Oh look, a virgin who shits in buckets is lecturing us on sex.
> 
> Heh.  That's even worse than Relf lecturing on software design:
> " 'Easy to read' is good for TV, not computer science. " - Jeff Relf

Advertizing me all the time, like you do, really hurts.  Please stop. 

(Japanese) Sex Toys are more popular than (Mandingo) reality.
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              MichaelGlasser  D669ADC3.C0066%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
            Owl  sz9b003ag.uog4@rooftop.invalid
          MichaelGlasser  D66A89A8.C0110%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
        Owl  sz9xc0v803.ahboe4@rooftop.invalid
      MichaelGlasser  D66AA29F.C013C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
    Owl  pelo3a.jbio3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.10--0.34am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 16/39|103 Cool; 1.8 Weeks, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 28 {   :40pm, 2017 }:53  Wʥეг
      The top 10 crappiest ways to take a screen shot.

Re: The top 10 crappiest ways to take a screen shot.

I know how to use Gimp so I just hit PrnScr ( on my keyboard ),
which puts the entire screen in memory, ready to paste.

If you don't know how to use Gimp then you're just fucked.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--2.31pm.Seattle.2018
    MrAA  954e69ef-877e-4992-82ff-f744a6dc4877@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--4.46pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|39 Top; 19.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jan  8 {  3:33pm, 2018 }:20^(PST)  Wʭɳα
      Tentacle hentai, Urotsukidodzi.

> Japs have some great porn!

A lot of women like tentacle hentai, Urotsukidodzi.
It started in 1814 with Katsushika Hokusai's "Diver and Octopus" engraving.

Other than that, I don't think Japan has had much of an impact.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--2.31pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Penis Size and Birth Rates are correlated, I think.

Penis Size and Birth Rates are correlated, I think.

Is it a coincidence that those with the smallest dicks ( Japan )
have the lowest BirthRate and those with the largest dicks
( Muslim Mandingos ) have the highest BirthRate ?

The Japanese are the fortunate ones, most obviously,
unless war, brutality and sex slavery are your thing.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--3.15am.Seattle.2018
            TakuyaSaitoh  9ab3ab8b-8a36-4ac5-8116-cf7fab4f2ae7@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--10.44am.Seattle.2018
        AndrzejMatuch  1l775d13adgfspm85qsicd23leajgc6ibq@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--10.03am.Seattle.2018
    AndrzejMatuch  n3d75d9n6rs2e1nrqlvpt0qhdvun0nbt7e@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--10.55am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/6|280 Mad; 1.2 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan  8 { 10:13am, 2018 }:27^(-5)  Wʭȴɗ
      The richest/smartest people ( Japan and Italy ) procreate the least.

> > > > (Rich) Seattle can't buy it (health); 
> > > > it has 12k homeless kids and rampant street drugs. 
> > > > Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.
> > > 
> > > That's what happens when you have a liberal government. 
> > > Increased crime, increased poverty and increased depression... 
> > > all voted for by the populace.
> >
> > The kids come here from conservative states, like Arkansas and Texas.
> 
> When people are young, they tend to believe that liberalism is the
> smarter of the two ideologies. It's only when they become wiser, in
> their 30s, that they realize how idiotic and unrealistic _anything_
> liberals propose is.

The richest/smartest people ( Japan and Italy ) procreate the least.

Niger, Uganda, Somalia, Afghanistan, Congo, Rwanda, Iraq and Egypt
-- all lovely places, if you like war and (sex) slavery --
reproduce the most.  IndexMundi.COM/g/r.aspx?v=25

12 inch "Mandingo" cocks come from the Mandé, in Niger-Congo.

"Blacked" is the richest, most popular porn producer.

  Greg Lansky ( born December, 1982, Paris France )
  is a FrenchJewish entrepreneur and Chief Creative Officer of 
  BLACKED, TUSHY and VIXEN adult studios. 

  He is also an adult film producer and director.
  He won the 2016 and 2017 AVN Director of the Year.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
            TakuyaSaitoh  40dc89c4-7389-441e-966b-d0f96d72463e@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--3.15am.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  9ab3ab8b-8a36-4ac5-8116-cf7fab4f2ae7@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--10.44am.Seattle.2018
    AndrzejMatuch  1l775d13adgfspm85qsicd23leajgc6ibq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--10.03am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/12|275 Mad; 40 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan  8 {  8:40am, 2018 }:21^(-5)  WʭkГ
      Money can't make you younger.

> > Nature programmed "us" ( you, me and the stars ) to consume, 
> > best we can, given our "options". 
> 
> A statement which has nothing to do with anything else you said.

No, it explains everything, including reproduction and death.
You can live/consume longer (Jiji) or faster (Sumo), pick one.

> > Despite all our efforts to save Steve Jobs, 
> > we couldn't buy him youth, health or decent sex. 
> 
> Just because he refused sex with _you_ doesn't mean
> that he refused it from someone else.

Money can't make you younger.
He stopped having kids in 1998, when he was 43;
13 years later, 2011, age 56, he was dead.

> > (Rich) Seattle can't buy it (health); 
> > it has 12k homeless kids and rampant street drugs. 
> > Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management. 
> 
> That's what happens when you have a liberal government. 
> Increased crime, increased poverty and increased depression... 
> all voted for by the populace.

The kids come here from conservative states, like Arkansas and Texas.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--10.56pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Japanese youth tell us why they won't reproduce.

Japanese youth tell us why they won't reproduce.  By Asian Boss
  YouTube.COM/watch?v=Y9qujIImY6M
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
            TakuyaSaitoh  40dc89c4-7389-441e-966b-d0f96d72463e@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--3.15am.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  9ab3ab8b-8a36-4ac5-8116-cf7fab4f2ae7@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--10.44am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  9e2db8fe-df98-428b-b2f3-d3b22bac4d82@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--7.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|59 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 154.16.149.74,  Jan  7 {  5:45pm, 2018 }:  ^(PST)  WʬϿΕ
      Steve Jobs was a "SaveThePlants" fruitarian; it didn't help.

> > > > Reproduction is merely _one_ way to consume, not the only way.
> > > > What about Steve Jobs ? did he lack money ? !
> > > 
> > > No but he was too stupid to put them to a good use to save his ass.
> > 
> > Despite all our efforts to save Steve Jobs,
> > we couldn't buy him youth, health or decent sex.
> 
> Who is "we"?
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cancer-pancreatic-meat/burned-meat-linked-to-pancreatic-cancer-idUSTRE53K5QI20090422
> Bill Clinton went vegan just in time....

Steve Jobs was a "SaveThePlants" fruitarian; it didn't help.
nbcNews.COM/Health/Body-Odd/Strange-Eating-Habits-Steve-Jobs-f119434

You can live longer (Jiji) or faster (Sumo), pick one.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
        TakuyaSaitoh  40dc89c4-7389-441e-966b-d0f96d72463e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--3.15am.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  9ab3ab8b-8a36-4ac5-8116-cf7fab4f2ae7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--10.44am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|58 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 185.220.101.16,  Jan  7 {  7:26am, 2018 }: 1^(PST)  Wʬʚɹ
      We couldn't buy him youth, health or decent sex.

> > > Nature programmed us to last long enough to reproduce; 
> > > past that, you need good maintenance which consumes money.
> > 
> > Reproduction is merely _one_ way to consume, not the only way.
> > What about Steve Jobs ? did he lack money ? !
> 
> No but he was too stupid to put them to a good use to save his ass.

Despite all our efforts to save Steve Jobs,
we couldn't buy him youth, health or decent sex.

(Rich) Seattle can't buy it (health);
it has 12k homeless kids and rampant street drugs.
Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.

Nature programmed "us" ( you, me and the stars ) to consume,
best we can, given our "options".
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
    TakuyaSaitoh  40dc89c4-7389-441e-966b-d0f96d72463e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--3.15am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|58 Top; 44.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.80.148,  Jan  7 {  1:53am, 2018 }:37^(PST)  Wʬɢჟ
      Expensive surgery that enriches doctors.

> > Compared to personality, looks don't matter but lanky boobs are nice.
> 
> What an extra non functional weight to carry ALL the time on yo chest!

Lanky Boobs give a woman extra money and attention;
but, as I said, personality matters more.

> > Seattle has free medical clinics and free housing;
> > still, it has 12k homeless people and rampant street drugs.
> 
> There are not 12k free houses, are there?  

They _prefer_ steet housing, and street drugs,
over the free versions offered by the government.
Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.

> > Mental and physical health, pain management etc. are _real_ issues;
> > compared to that, the money game is trivial, like poker or football.
> > How much would've Steve Jobs paid to be alive today ?
> 
> Without money, yo health will deteriorate, sooner or later!  

Money didn't save Steve Jobs, did it ?

In fact, it may have ended his life sooner,
as his natural immune system might've worked better 
than the expensive surgery that enriches doctors.

> Nature programmed us to last long enough to reproduce; 
> past that, you need good maintenance which consumes money...

What about Steve Jobs ? did he lack money ? !
Reproduction is merely _one_ way to consume, not the only way.
 
> > Young, healthy (poor) men get all the good, proper sex.
> > Women might _take_ money from (rich) old farts, sure;
> > but real, decent sex can't be bought.
> 
> LOL, just ask Trump with all his wives including his latest Mel! 
> The ovary stops functioning at the menopause
> while the dick is fully functional till yo die!  

Sure, tell us all about the great sex you're having,
now that you're older and richer.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Real, decent sex can't be bought.

  Nature programmed "us" ( you, me and the stars ) to consume;
  to do so, we "choose" our LeastBad options;
  e.g. the jailer must jail the guy who must steal.

  Legalising prostitution, heroin, meth and hallucinogens is bad;
  still, it's better than what we have now: the (failing) drug war.

  Seattle has free medical clinics and free housing;
  still, it has 12k homeless people and rampant street drugs.
  Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are bad PTSD/pain management.

  Mental and physical health, pain management etc. are _real_ issues;
  compared to that, the money game is trivial, like poker or football.
  How much would've Steve Jobs paid to be alive today ?

  Young, healthy (poor) men get all the good, proper sex.
  Women might _take_ money from (rich) old farts, sure;
  but real, decent sex can't be bought.

  Compared to personality, looks don't matter but <A hRef="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Lanky.Boobs.JPG">lanky boobs</A> are nice.
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      HerbertGlazier  282ffdbe-8a1b-41f0-bf67-96da6b0f8094@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  a6c9f482-b752-45a0-bbf8-e6ce33b6000e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.6--2.39pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/3|41 Top; 8.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Jan  6 {   :58pm, 2018 }:50^(PST)  Wʫთа
      SouthWest winds keep Seattle warm, cloudy and wet.

> The reason it is warm here on the west coast is 
> we have warm air off the Pacific;
> the Japanese Current keeps the water warm.

Winds from the SouthWest keeps Seattle warm, cloudy and wet;
occasional NorthEast winds make it cold, sunny and dry.

The North Pacific Current brings warm water/air from Hawaii+Japan;
the SubPolar Gyre brings cold water/air from the Artic.

  Jeff-Relf.Me/North.Pacific.Currents.PNG
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    Logan Paul should be jailed, not promoted;
    Whitney Wisconsin should be promoted, not jailed.
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              sambo│sambo1960@atheist_com  p1ei76$ee5$2@dont-email.me
            AndrzejMatuch  jbpl3dd37on9phapo1r559qd99d2mkpj2s@4ax.com
          SteveCarroll  47f2aa51-1681-4b98-b5a9-649c310c2135@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  da0c86fc-6667-4636-9497-5e8e653d6657@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  d0150c0a-b438-412d-8ee3-482c1f310fe2@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  f10e04cc-2812-4b60-b179-bcd0b684f7af@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--9.22pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|53 Top; 6.4 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Dec 28 { 10:23am, 2017 }:21^(PST)  Wʥня
      Good, Proper Sex.

Mental and physical health, pain management and the like are the real issues;
compared to that, the money game is trivial, like poker or football.
How much would Steve Jobs have paid to be alive today, if he could've ?

Young, healthy (poor) men get all the good, proper sex.
Women might take money from (rich) old farts, sure;
but, honestly, that's not who they're "fucking" ( real sex ).
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                RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  p1p136$jl5$1@dont-email.me
              HughHuntzinger  7fec744d-4bb5-414d-90c2-d985fce0329f@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  75774d59ehe7g2bvhqtamh1q1583gnk5pi@4ax.com
          sambo│sambo1960@atheist_com  p20asi$e9a$3@dont-email.me
        MrChrisV  5rc74d5m7pr1fd919io2ilki3lk5sef6f2@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  3a7665e5-b674-46c3-be38-a16214aa99e1@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.31--3.59am.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.31--4.11am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/3|65 Top; 3.7 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Dec 27 {  7:29am, 2017 }:  ^(PST)  WʥYк
      When everyone, including the government, "borrows" (cheats) too much.

When everyone, including the government, "borrows" (cheats) too much,
the "money" (poker) game looses what little meaning it might've had,
compared to our mental/physical health.

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are just BAD pain management.
A squirt bottle of concentrated salt water kills tooth pain;
-- nothing else works as well -- yet (almost) no one promote$ it.
■
    TakuyaSaitoh  3e6bb014-24f9-4460-a35b-a76b4b07370d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.31--2.20am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|78 Top; 7 Hours, GoogleG, 185.170.42.18,  Dec 30 {  6:28pm, 2017 }:11^(PST)  WʧʐϹ
      The jailer had to jail the guy who had to steal.

> " Death is just an illusion "
> YouTube.COM/watch?v=Zf8PWSQaEwY
                    
Nature programmed "us" ( you, me and the stars ) to consume;
to do so, "we" (society) "choose" (snicker) our LeastBad option;
e.g. the jailer had to jail the guy who had to steal.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.26--9.18am.Seattle.2017
    Red│red@usenet_invalid  47ed4d16vsh3gnvov1tbpm6cfiovqv9bf3@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--1.59am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|2 Shifty; 11.5 Hours, F_Agent, News.Cheapnews.EU➤Cheapnews.EU,  Dec 29 {  2: 2pm, 2017 }:30^(-5)  Wʦυʖ
      "CryptoCurrency Distros" multiply like rabbits, 1,324+ so far.

> once everyone figures out Bitcoin Core is 
> an open-source, CostFree Linux program,
> it'll be "tulip mania" all over again.

"CryptoCurrency Distros" multiply like rabbits, 1,324+ so far;
UnlessAndUntil someone pours money into a "Distro",
( like Google did with Android ) it stays at the kid's table.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.26--3.16pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Takuya Saitoh's hero, Mitsutoki Shigeta.

Local poster, Takuya Saitoh, is constantly worried that 
Japanese people are slowly being replaced by Africans.

In 2014, then 24 year old Mitsutoki Shigeta, son of Yasumitsu Shigeta, 
the founder of mobile phone distributor Hikari Tsushin, had 16 children
from 11 Thai surrogates -- each child has it's own nanny.

The source of the eggs is unknown.
The paperwork is complex and difficult.

Quoting  JapanTimes.CO.JP:

  Under Thai law, a woman who gives birth is the legal mother,
  and, if she is married, her husband is the legal father.

  Court approval is required to transfer custody, 
  which experts say often involves perjury.
        [...]
  The New Life clinic, which is currently closed pending investigation, 
  stopped working with Shigeta after two surrogates got pregnant 
  and he requested more, said founder Mariam Kukunashvili.

  Mariam said Shigeta told New Life he 
  " wanted to win elections and could use his big family for voting. ".

  " He said he wanted 10 to 15 babies a year, and that
    he wanted to continue the baby-making process until he’s dead. "

Quoting  5ch.NET:

  The police raided a home in Bangkok 
  and found nine babies with nine nannies. 

  DNA samples sent by Shigeta prove that he is the 
  father of the nine children, plus seven more.  

  According to Thai police, Shigeta hired a total of 11 
  surrogate mothers to carry his children, among them 
  four sets of twins.  

  The children found in the raid lived in unfurnished rooms 
  filled with baby bottles, play pens, nappies and bouncy chairs,
  and are currently under the care of social services.    
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.26--9.18am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      BitCoin is a game, like poker.

  BitCoin is a game, like poker;
  compared to mental/physical health, it doesn't matter.

  Everyone is "a biased advocate" of one thing or other.

  A premise ( e.g. "BitCoin is going up" or "Christ saves" )
  is adopted not because it's true, but because it's useful;
  compared to "usefulness", "truthiness" doesn't matter.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.25--0.37am.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  cb424d1t8k8vn44kkolhgfhjsiihtassjq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.25--0.58pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/10|258 Mad; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 25 {  6:55am, 2017 }:46^(-5)  WʣЛɪ
      Relaxed boobs (low&apart) look better than the uptight ones (high&close).

> >  Jeff-Relf.Me/Kylie.Jenner.Nude.JPG 
> >  TMZ.COM/2017/08/25/Kylie-Jenner-Nude-Poses-V-Magazine/ 
> 
> Great tits, to say the least.

Like Kim, Kylie enlarged her breasts/hips/lips and reduced her waist/nostrals/chin.
Lanky boobs are nice; to wit:  Jeff-Relf.Me/Lanky.Boobs.JPG
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.25--0.37am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Kylie Jenner, Nude.

Everything Kylie eats goes straight to her long boobs and wide hips,
not her trim waist; so she shows them off ( $$ ), FreeFlowing.
Her sweet face is contagious.

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Kylie.Jenner.Nude.JPG
  TMZ.COM/2017/08/25/Kylie-Jenner-Nude-Poses-V-Magazine/
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              HughHuntzinger  df03abd5-c4c9-4296-84e6-7b3d16d320a5@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  ckil3dpaqqm6if6f7tl1iq3ulego0sg3oj@4ax.com
          sambo│sambo1960@atheist_com  p1ei76$ee5$2@dont-email.me
        AndrzejMatuch  jbpl3dd37on9phapo1r559qd99d2mkpj2s@4ax.com
      SteveCarroll  47f2aa51-1681-4b98-b5a9-649c310c2135@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  da0c86fc-6667-4636-9497-5e8e653d6657@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--7.53am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 11/12|72 Top; 2.4 Days, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Dec 20 {  6:54pm, 2017 }:47^(PST)  WʠЛl
      Money is a stupid (poker) game.

If you tax landlords ( e.g. Donald Trump ) too much,
banks take ownership and, eventually, the government pays for it.

Compared to mental/physical health, money is a stupid (poker) game.
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            AndrzejMatuch  si6j3dtkf4r31b5bevd3a3g4iumuplejvu@4ax.com
          Alan_Baker│alangbaker@telus_  p1ch2o$r38$2@news.datemas.de
        HughHuntzinger  cd64f4bd-be6e-4df4-b7b1-9065ed79d736@googlegroups.com
      AndrzejMatuch  eipk3dds6esjaldso0qtj4106gqa6csb3h@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  df03abd5-c4c9-4296-84e6-7b3d16d320a5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--7.22am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 8/12|72 Top; 3 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Dec 20 {  6:27am, 2017 }:55^(PST)  Wʠʐϛ
      The child is selling herself to her drug dealer.

Compared to mental/physical health, money is a stupid game.

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are just BAD pain management.
Why does Seattle have 12k homeless people, and rampant street drugs ?
Why do they avoid (free) medical clinics, and free housing ?

" Delilah Says Homelessness Is Better Than Working ":
YouTube.COM/watch?v=rWxVwTVU15Q

Likely, the child is selling herself to her drug dealer.
Legalising prostitution, heroin, meth and hallucinogens is bad, sure,
but, still, it's better than what we have now: the (failing) drug war.
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          .  8a6f28ec-dcff-4b8a-8ce6-b2dc2a304eee@googlegroups.com
        .  b572793f-7c3e-4fa1-9b99-0cb98752af05@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--5.25pm.Seattle.2017
    JohnGohde  25aae696-4f28-4db1-a306-aeae62ca0c9c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--7.46pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|218 Dropped; 33.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 96.228.38.100,  Dec 21 {  6:26pm, 2017 }:56^(PST)  WʡʐΑ
      Bouncy Boobs ( YouTube ).

How can you ( John Gohde ) prefer "This Poppy" over Bouncy Boobs:

   YouTube.COM/watch?v=bY8qtqYo6Vs
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      HerbertGlazier  8a6f28ec-dcff-4b8a-8ce6-b2dc2a304eee@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  b572793f-7c3e-4fa1-9b99-0cb98752af05@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--5.25pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/4|80 Top; 2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 21 {  2:25pm, 2017 }: 5^(PST)  Wʡɨȷ
      Everything, all of us, always move at "c" ( the speed of light ).

  Everything, all of us, always move at "c" ( the speed of light ).

  If, relative to each other, we ( you and I ) are not moving spatially,
  then I observe that you're moving ( at c ) exclusively
  in the temporal dimension, not in the spatial one.

  Conversely, photons move exclusively in the spatial dimension;
  i.e. we observe that their ( local ) clocks don't tick.

  We observe that objects are frozen/static at an APPARENT event horizon
  because they only move in the spatial dimension, not the temporal one.

  No TRUE event horizon exists because, if it could, 
  it'd have ZERO entropy and INFINITE "eXergy"
  ( energy that can do physical work ).

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
  now add a little "gravity&eXergy", so it fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Life consumes gravity&eXergy, same as the sun.
  Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not gravity&eXergy.

  Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
  the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and it accelerates/SpeedsUp as gravity&eXergy dies off.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--0.34pm.Seattle.2017
            AndrzejMatuch  qkcg3ddbvk1fdvst9r6dhc1kdgmmlltgch@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.32pm.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  17d91676-79f9-4647-9673-a65dae5fccbd@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--3.08pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  7ff041c3-5d44-4c44-a65d-6fd8ab8926c3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--4.24pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/37|85 Cool; 26.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 18 {  3:50pm, 2017 }:55^(PST)  Wʟɶʯ
      The Vittles Vault pet food storage containter.

> Where do you keep your filth before trash pickup then,
> if it goes "straight to the dumpster" but also right before pickup?
> Do you only shit once a week? 

I already told you ( everyone ); to wit:
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  13c26b2e-463e-48d0-8013-c3101fe28167@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  2ukf3d536hrpr6kp1pt3g9vro22ikvup5b@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--0.34pm.Seattle.2017
        AndrzejMatuch  qkcg3ddbvk1fdvst9r6dhc1kdgmmlltgch@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.32pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  17d91676-79f9-4647-9673-a65dae5fccbd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--3.08pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/37|84 Cool; 8.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 18 {  2:53pm, 2017 }:43^(PST)  Wʟɬქ
      Dumpsters are full of rancid crap, FYI.

> Can people enter your apartment without barfing? 

Yes, all the time, lots of people.
They like to talk my ear off, I have to push them out.

> Does your landlord know about your garbage bags full of human waste
> creating a hazmat issue on his property? 

No bags laying around; it's put in the dumpster, right before pick up.
Dumpsters are full of rancid crap, FYI.
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              AndrzejMatuch  407e3dt2skdon155i6qqlfauqbo5c15kga@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.54pm.Seattle.2017
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  13c26b2e-463e-48d0-8013-c3101fe28167@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  2ukf3d536hrpr6kp1pt3g9vro22ikvup5b@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--0.34pm.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  qkcg3ddbvk1fdvst9r6dhc1kdgmmlltgch@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.32pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/10|184 Mad; 42.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 18 {  1:27pm, 2017 }:33^(-5)  Wʟɞξ
      I'm the opposite of an "escort".

> > Please, get your fantasies right.
> > Were it true, as you two ( Mr. Shame and Andrzej ) hope,
> > I'd have to pay for it, and I wouldn't be a virgin.
> 
> Nobody said you got penetrated and lost your virginity; 
> you simply help men get their release.  

Only in your dreams, sorry; I'm the opposite of an "escort".

> You're such a virgin that you don't even understand
> how to lose your status.

If, unlike me, you've been face fucked, down the throat,
without barfing, you're no virgin.
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        TakuyaSaitoh  88dff8f5-a768-4911-9d31-a0121d504e29@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--2.15pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  fbab848a-d32a-4bef-bd93-2a951decd123@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.05pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|113 Top; 5.4 Hours, GoogleG, 51.15.86.162,  Dec 18 {  6:53am, 2017 }:40^(PST)  WʟSტ
      Real, genuine, passionate, sophisticated, amazing LOVE/sex.

> > "This Poppy" makes fun of trendy young girls, mocking them.
> > She's a CounterCulture activist, AltFeminist, like Angela White.
> > They're like a flu shot, to innoculate you,
> > so you don't fall victim to the real thing: The SexSlave Market.
> 
> and she might be a male after all...

She rejects "all genders", probably.

In this ( amature, live, long ) video, "YouTube.COM/watch?v=N9aZw_wGDeM",
32 year old Angela White flirts with her 42 year old porno partner,
Manuel Ferrara, Sep 18, 2017.  Both are polyamorous, on and off stage.

He has 4 kids, she has none.  He's French, she's Australian.
32 GG ( occasionally H ) tits, 100% natural, floppy ( not round/fake ).
At age 14, she was a DD.  She's ALWAYS dieting, to keep trim.

Shortly afterwards, she starred, directed and produced: "Angela  Volume 3".
Volume1 was her transition ( after 6 years ) from solo to lesbian scenes.
Volume2 was her transition ( 2 years later ) to scenes with men.

The first scene of Volume3 contains what I think is:

  The FIRST professionally produced "Sex Tape" ( by porn pros );
  i.e. it's REAL passion, not acting,
  -- no dick sucking, no Viagra, no dick injections, no dick pumps, no drugs,
  no alcohol, no cut to a "facial" ( masturbating alone, then spraying ),
  just real, genuine, passionate, sophisticated, amazing LOVE/sex.
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              AndrzejMatuch  pmvc3dp8e90kvbhkfgpm4f192thqkppard@4ax.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--1.53pm.Seattle.2017
          AndrzejMatuch  407e3dt2skdon155i6qqlfauqbo5c15kga@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.54pm.Seattle.2017
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  13c26b2e-463e-48d0-8013-c3101fe28167@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  2ukf3d536hrpr6kp1pt3g9vro22ikvup5b@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--0.34pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3/11|181 Mad; 5.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 18 {  6:42am, 2017 }:56^(-5)  WʟRu
      Get your fantasies right.

> > How the fuck does somework work 2 "jobs" and only make $500 a month? 
> 
> Apparently, his blowjobs aren't that satisfactory.
> 
> > > I'm on call 24/7, I fix stuff, hard&soft.
> >
> > Sounds like you suck dicks for money.
> 
> He fixes hard & soft stuff.  He sucks dick so it stops being soft
> and then sucks until it's no longer hard.

Please, get your fantasies right.
Were it true, as you two ( Mr. Shame and Andrzej ) hope,
I'd have to pay for it, and I wouldn't be a virgin.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--1.53pm.Seattle.2017
            AndrzejMatuch  407e3dt2skdon155i6qqlfauqbo5c15kga@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.54pm.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  13c26b2e-463e-48d0-8013-c3101fe28167@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--6.58pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a3744f3$0$26176$b1db1813$f6a1207f@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--9.17pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|23 Dropped; 25.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Dec 17 {  8:32pm, 2017 }:52^(-5)  WʞЫʬ
      My shit bucket.

> > The work I do for my landlord is pro bono, mostly.
> > Software pays MUCH more, both per hour and per month.
> 
> Which is why you live like Bert.
> All you need is a shit bucket and two Nobels are yours!

This 7 gallon " Vittles Vault pet food storage containter ",
from PetCo is my shit bucket:  Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vittles_Vault_.JPG

It's Super Strong, well sealed, and easy to open/close;
two of them holds 5 weeks of shit, pee and paper towels.
Once full, I pour them into a heavy, 45 gallon "Contractor bag"
and toss it in the dumpster.

When Sealed/Closed, there's no smell; unsealed, Boraxo helps.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
            AndrzejMatuch  pmvc3dp8e90kvbhkfgpm4f192thqkppard@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--1.53pm.Seattle.2017
        AndrzejMatuch  407e3dt2skdon155i6qqlfauqbo5c15kga@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.54pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  13c26b2e-463e-48d0-8013-c3101fe28167@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--6.58pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/36|80 Cool; 13.2 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 17 {  6:27pm, 2017 }: 2^(PST)  WʞЖΗ
      The work I do for my landlord is pro bono, mostly.

> How the fuck does somework work 2 "jobs" and only make $500 a month? 

Most days, I don't work at all; 6 hour days are rare.

> > I'm on call 24/7, I fix stuff, hard&soft.
> 
> Sounds like you suck dicks for money.

Hardware ( plumbing, wiring, vacuum cleaners and door locks )
and software ( a bank simulator, in C++ for Windows 10 ).
Also, I'm constantly ReRenting rooms, making contracts, keeping books.

The work I do for my landlord is pro bono, mostly.
Software pays MUCH more, both per hour and per month.
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              HughHuntzinger  0840bdb8-356c-41f1-bbc4-f849aa469868@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
          AndrzejMatuch  pmvc3dp8e90kvbhkfgpm4f192thqkppard@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--1.53pm.Seattle.2017
      AndrzejMatuch  407e3dt2skdon155i6qqlfauqbo5c15kga@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  71f61447-9868-48d4-beec-7fe90225ca20@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--6.05pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|55 Top; 5.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 17 {  5:50pm, 2017 }:49^(PST)  WʞАʩ
      No one is happier than the (poor) dude who's WELL LOVED by the rich.

> There's actually a lot to be said about Happiness...and the American
> paradigm that one only needs money to be happy falls quite far short
> in actual reality ... there's many places in the world who are ahead
> of American culture in this regards, such as is expressed in "hygge" 
> from Denmark.  Its definition/translation is roughly "...a quality of 
> cosiness and comfortable conviviality that engenders a feeling of 
> contentment or well-being.”

No one is happier than the (poor) dude who's WELL LOVED by the rich.
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              AndrzejMatuch  dera3dpr8ivp11gp96fcnvenkfg1oau20v@4ax.com
            .  0840bdb8-356c-41f1-bbc4-f849aa469868@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
        AndrzejMatuch  pmvc3dp8e90kvbhkfgpm4f192thqkppard@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--1.53pm.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  407e3dt2skdon155i6qqlfauqbo5c15kga@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--5.54pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|10 Cool; 5.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 17 {  5:39pm, 2017 }:12^(-5)  WʞϾΡ
      Virginity is better, trust me.

> Of course you're not in pain; you don't work and are on welfare.

You ( Andrzej Matuch ) WISH I was on welfare, so you could hate me,
but I'm not.  I've two jobs, I'm on call 24/7, I fix stuff, hard&soft.

> You admitted that you "earn" $500 a month like 
> the pathetic sack of shite you are.

It's enough, I'm happy.

> > You're trying to SELL us right wing catholicism; you're not objective.
> 
> And you're trying to sell us a life of virginity, misery and poverty.
> You're a filthy hippy.

No misery here, sorry.  Meanwhile, you bitch all day long, 
wincing in pain as the government fucks you in the ass.

Virginity is better, trust me.
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    TakuyaSaitoh  88dff8f5-a768-4911-9d31-a0121d504e29@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--2.15pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|120 Top; 5.8 Hours, GoogleG, 209.123.234.23,  Dec 17 {  7:39am, 2017 }: 1^(PST)  WʞʜΖ
      The SexSlave Market.

"This Poppy" makes fun of trendy young girls, mocking them.
She's a CounterCulture activist, AltFeminist, 
similar to Angela White, Abella Danger and Phoenix Marie.

They're like a flu shot, to innoculate you,
so you don't fall victim to the real thing: The SexSlave Market.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--4.36pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a347477$0$51803$b1db1813$c2d291f2@news.astraweb.com
          AndrzejMatuch  dera3dpr8ivp11gp96fcnvenkfg1oau20v@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  0840bdb8-356c-41f1-bbc4-f849aa469868@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  pmvc3dp8e90kvbhkfgpm4f192thqkppard@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--1.53pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3/8|175 Mad; 6.9 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 17 {  6:28am, 2017 }:11^(-5)  WʞʐϹ
      Andrzej Matuch is in pain, I'm not.

> > Sweden is raising its EARLIEST retirement age from 61 to 64. 
> 
> And the latest age to which you CAN work to 69. Right now, it's
> optional but it will soon become mandatory as it always does.

Suicides, homicides, homelessness and war are just BAD pain management.
You ( Andrzej Matuch ) are in pain, I'm not.
You're trying to SELL us right wing catholicism; you're not objective.
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                JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--2.51pm.Seattle.2017
              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  e0247b6a-4385-44b0-b3a2-8838ea26bbbf@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--4.36pm.Seattle.2017
          BenJacoby  5a347477$0$51803$b1db1813$c2d291f2@news.astraweb.com
        AndrzejMatuch  dera3dpr8ivp11gp96fcnvenkfg1oau20v@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  0840bdb8-356c-41f1-bbc4-f849aa469868@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.35pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|52 Top; 51.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Dec 16 { 11:29am, 2017 }:19^(PST)  Wʝшэ
      Italians work 18 hours/week ( 960 hours per capita per year / 52 weeks, 2006 ).

Italians work 18 hours/week ( 960 hours per capita per year / 52 weeks, 2006 ).
FTP.IZA.ORG/dp10179.pdf
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--2.51pm.Seattle.2017
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  e0247b6a-4385-44b0-b3a2-8838ea26bbbf@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--4.36pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a347477$0$51803$b1db1813$c2d291f2@news.astraweb.com
      AndrzejMatuch  dera3dpr8ivp11gp96fcnvenkfg1oau20v@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  0840bdb8-356c-41f1-bbc4-f849aa469868@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|52 Top; 51.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Dec 16 { 11:29am, 2017 }:19^(PST)  Wʝшэ
      Italians work 18 hours/week ( 960 hours per capita per year / 52 weeks, 2006 ).

> > Left-wing paradise Sweden is now going to force locals to work 
> > until the age of 69 because they've depleted their coffers 
> > to pay for the "refugees"

Sweden is raising its EARLIEST retirement age from 61 to 64.

North Korean labor camp inmates work 112 hours per week ( 7*16 )
on a starvation diet ( killing many, saving bullets ).

The average working time of (U.S.) married couples (combined)
rose from 56 hours per week in 1969 to 67 hours in 2000;
so many are chosing part time work over marriage and kids.

Italians work 18 hours/week ( 960 hours per capita per year / 52 weeks, 2006 ).
BusinessInsider.COM/countries-that-work-least-and-most-hours-2016-10
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              TakuyaSaitoh  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4228b434-e5ae-4b66-a640-8afb7b0ce6af@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  mle83d9u6qrj25s5p5guhtc5h9dr21bvd1@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--2.51pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  e0247b6a-4385-44b0-b3a2-8838ea26bbbf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--4.36pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/32|83 Cool; 17.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 15 {  3:46pm, 2017 }: 3^(PST)  Wʝɵϱ
      Mr Sham is a bad "pimp" ( no sale ).

> > I'm having the time of my life, loving EVERY minute.
> > What's it like for you, when you manage to scrape up enough cash
> > for your MoneyGrubbing, ManHating, PTSD whores ?
> 
> Those of us who arent tragic human failures making just $12k a year
> don't have to "scrape" anything. 

Actually, that $12K number ( from me ) was a horrible miscalculation.
I make $500 per month, which is enough to pay my (reduced) rent,
( from $530/month to about $400 because I work for the landlord ).
Rent goes about up about 8% per year, here in Seattle.

The $400/month is (about) what I spend on the house, 
because the landlord won't ( or can't ).
If I lost my job(s) or savings, I'd have to consider other options.

> Nor do we have the same misogynistic, negative views of women 
> which were no doubt instilled in you through 
> a lifetime of rejection and humiliation. 

You ( Mr Sham ) are a bad "pimp" ( no sale ).
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  d957a335-b4fa-4787-8a6b-08e0dbd69262@googlegroups.com
            JohnGohde  27bc3cf4-c55b-48b5-88e4-5e64cc2ddb36@googlegroups.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4228b434-e5ae-4b66-a640-8afb7b0ce6af@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  mle83d9u6qrj25s5p5guhtc5h9dr21bvd1@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--2.51pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    +-, 1.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 15 {  1:12pm, 2017 }:27^(-5)  WʝɜR
      What's it like for you, when you manage to scrape up enough cash ?

> > > Jeff-Relf.Me/Angela.White.Nude.JPG
> > > Jeff-Relf.Me/Violet.Starr.Nude.JPG
> > 
> > Tell us more about what its like to be a nearly 60 year old virgin. 
> 
> +1

I'm having the time of my life, loving EVERY minute.

What's it like for you, when you manage to scrape up enough cash
for your MoneyGrubbing, ManHating, PTSD whores ?
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            .  d957a335-b4fa-4787-8a6b-08e0dbd69262@googlegroups.com
          .  27bc3cf4-c55b-48b5-88e4-5e64cc2ddb36@googlegroups.com
        .  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
    MrAA  d0397c7a-93f0-4e23-ad52-9b5e006b2a54@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--2.23pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/7|88 Top; 54.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 15 { 11:36am, 2017 }:36^(PST)  WʝɄa
      You can't teach this.

> > WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Angela_White
> >   [ Angela wants to ] complete her PhD., expaning her studies
> >   to include a broader cross section of [adult] performers.
> 
> Gee, I didn't know they offered Ph.D.s in porn!
> I wonder what the courses are?  Advanced fellatio techniques?

No, you can't teach this:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Angela.White.Nude.JPG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Violet.Starr.Nude.JPG
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            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  d957a335-b4fa-4787-8a6b-08e0dbd69262@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  27bc3cf4-c55b-48b5-88e4-5e64cc2ddb36@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a3327f5$0$10610$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--7.27pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    -Dropped, 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Dec 14 {  5:40pm, 2017 }: 4^(-5)  WʜϾϲ
      Don't look at this.

> > Jeff-Relf.Me/Angela.White.Nude.JPG
> 
> You are really one sick puppy.  Get help now.

If you hated that, don't look at this:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Violet.Starr.Nude.JPG
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--2.31pm.Seattle.2017
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  27a4d9bb-1aaf-45a8-b410-15afa218f2f4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--3.03pm.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4af81f33-23d6-4438-afb7-1fc4130fec43@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--3.32pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  a75e97e2-1670-4d7f-ac44-3f6574159875@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--4.24pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/30|80 Cool; 4.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 14 {  4: 4pm, 2017 }: 6^(PST)  WʜϠϴ
      A money grubbing whore who hates you.

You ( Mr Sham ) asked yourself:
> Why do you want to jack off to someone else's sex life?

Because your real one sucks so badly ?

> Does your (rent controlled) landlord know they are housing such a pervert? 

Who's controlling my rent ? it's market driven, rising 8% per year.

Porn is better than what you have ( when your wrinkly ass is lucky ):

  A money grubbing whore who hates you. 
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--1.18pm.Seattle.2017
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  ff44f000-580a-47ce-a8d4-9508c2fc56af@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--2.31pm.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  27a4d9bb-1aaf-45a8-b410-15afa218f2f4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--3.03pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4af81f33-23d6-4438-afb7-1fc4130fec43@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--3.32pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/30|79 Cool; 4.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 14 {  3:21pm, 2017 }:37^(PST)  Wʜϙς
      Mr Sham's sex life.

> What are you asking, virgin? 

Check your alzheimers, please.  You asked me to detail my virginity,
and I said I would, right after you detailed your sex life.
You then pleaded the 5th and tried to disguise it as something else.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--11.47am.Seattle.2017
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  95d57a2c-661b-4f80-b816-c1229718a2f9@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--1.18pm.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  ff44f000-580a-47ce-a8d4-9508c2fc56af@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--2.31pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  27a4d9bb-1aaf-45a8-b410-15afa218f2f4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--3.03pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/30|78 Cool; 9.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 14 {  2:51pm, 2017 }:39^(PST)  Wʜϓτ
      Mr Sham pleads the 5th.

I never asked for photos or names.
You ( Mr Sham ) are pleading the 5th.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4228b434-e5ae-4b66-a640-8afb7b0ce6af@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--11.47am.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  95d57a2c-661b-4f80-b816-c1229718a2f9@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--1.18pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  ff44f000-580a-47ce-a8d4-9508c2fc56af@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--2.31pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/29|76 Cool; 5.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 14 {  2:22pm, 2017 }:50^(PST)  Wʜψа
      Mr Sham pleads the 5th.

> > Tell us about your OneInaMillion girl,
> > the one that isn't money hungry, yet enjoys sex with you,
> > and only you, the living fossil.
> 
> I plead the 5th.

Yes, of course you do. 
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              JohnGohde  27bc3cf4-c55b-48b5-88e4-5e64cc2ddb36@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4228b434-e5ae-4b66-a640-8afb7b0ce6af@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--11.47am.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  95d57a2c-661b-4f80-b816-c1229718a2f9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--1.18pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1/28|74 Cool; 51.1 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 14 {   :14pm, 2017 }:11^(PST)  Wʜγʃ
      Tell us about your OneInaMillion girl.

> > > > Nothing is sexier than a clever, well developed mind.
> > > 
> > > Tell us more about what its like to be a 60 year old virgin. 
> > 
> > Absolutely, right after you tell me about your money hungry bitch.
> 
> You have me confused with girly man Ahlstrom. 

OK, then tell us about your OneInaMillion girl,
the one that isn't money hungry, yet enjoys sex with you,
and only you, the living fossil.
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            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  d957a335-b4fa-4787-8a6b-08e0dbd69262@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  27bc3cf4-c55b-48b5-88e4-5e64cc2ddb36@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4228b434-e5ae-4b66-a640-8afb7b0ce6af@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--11.47am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/28|73 Cool; 26.2 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 14 { 11:18am, 2017 }:38^(PST)  WʜΣc
      Mr Sham's money hungry bitch.

> > Nothing is sexier than a clever, well developed mind.
> 
> Tell us more about what its like to be a nearly 60 year old virgin. 

Absolutely, right after you tell me about your money hungry bitch.
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        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  d957a335-b4fa-4787-8a6b-08e0dbd69262@googlegroups.com
      JohnGohde  27bc3cf4-c55b-48b5-88e4-5e64cc2ddb36@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  259652d9-274c-4956-9f69-0521689cd9c1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--10.48am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|140 Top; 5.3 Hours, GoogleG, 216.239.90.19,  Dec 14 {  4:22am, 2017 }:29^(PST)  WʜɻЛ
      Nothing is sexier than a clever, well developed mind.

> > [ a "This Poppy" video ( mocking young girls ) ]
> 
> What a pedo that Moi be

My favorite porn star, Angela White, is 32 years old.
Nothing is sexier than a clever, well developed mind;
it shows on her face... no 18 year old has it.

Big pendulous tits, huge hips and a tiny waist helps too, of course.

Jeff-Relf.Me/Angela.White.Nude.JPG
WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Angela_White

  [ Angela feels ] the adult industry will move more toward 
  live shows to get around the issues associated with piracy.

  [ She wants to ] complete her PhD., expaning her studies
  to include a broader cross section of [adult] performers.

  In 2013, White and fellow Australian Sex Party candidate Zahra Stardust
  became the first political candidates to film a pornographic scene together.

" Interview with Angela White ", Sep, 2017:
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=hphPpxj2WAE
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              MrChrisV  nvtv2d9jcp8rdhm05g72d5l9db8ejtioau@4ax.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  3553226b-e718-4c9d-9da6-0f81838a6768@googlegroups.com
          Fabian  p0pcif0inn@news4.newsguy.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  b9b044e0-3105-4098-a642-7adefdbc384a@googlegroups.com
      Fabian  c8486fcf-372c-4a93-a6dd-c06c84d58fa1@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  3059d0fd-3f0f-4977-b06a-6b4bdd971a10@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--2.18pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1/1|141 Top; 5.4 Hours, GoogleG, 199.249.223.65,  Dec 13 {  8:32am, 2017 }:27^(PST)  WʛЫʓ
      I control Win10 using these TEXT files ( and more ).

I control Windows 10, including devices and apps,
using these TEXT files ( and more ):

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT
  X.CPP and X.HTM ( in "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" ).
  Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT      Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM    Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Snippets.TXT
  Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
  Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT
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              JohnGohde  cbdbc85e-da51-49f6-9991-79c7ca35c908@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  8e60d851-c5bb-41a4-b750-7a5d6d3bf0cf@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--4.00pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  a1abe13e-12be-4db2-9d40-7be2552f7f90@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--6.42pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  2f5b7026-fb4e-420f-8979-77e07fc2e690@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--11.36pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|140 Top; 11.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 23.129.64.102,  Dec 12 { 10:50pm, 2017 }:52^(PST)  WʛΝʬ
      A saltwater rinse helps swollen, inflamed gums.

> SugarConsuming, AcidProducing germs dissolve your teeth.

Yes, this is how we lose teeth, eventually.

> > > > A squirt bottle of concentrated salt water kills tooth pain;
> > > > nothing else works as well.
> 
> We can't keep concentrated salt in our mouth for long...  
> Japanese Green Tea kills tooth germs better than any salt wash can do...

I don't want the caffeine.

Quoting
RealFarmacy.COM/Why-you-should-brush-with-Sea-Salt-and-baking-soda/

  High in iodine, sea salt has antibacterial properties, 
  and helps neutralize acids in the mouth. 

  Salt makes you salivate, and your saliva creates
  an antibacterial barrier that protects your enamel.         

  A saltwater rinse helps allay swollen, inflamed gums, 
  and rinses away bacteria in the mouth.         
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          JohnGohde  cbdbc85e-da51-49f6-9991-79c7ca35c908@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  8e60d851-c5bb-41a4-b750-7a5d6d3bf0cf@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--4.00pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  a1abe13e-12be-4db2-9d40-7be2552f7f90@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--6.42pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/5|138 Top; 27.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 171.25.193.78,  Dec 12 {  5:17pm, 2017 }:30^(PST)  Wʛʄი
      Suicides, Homicides and War are just BAD pain management.

> > A squirt bottle of concentrated salt water kills tooth pain;
> > nothing else works as well.
> 
> It doesn't kill the germs digging into yo teeth...

Germs can't live in concentrated salt.
By the time you're 58, like me, your LowerBack teeth
have been dissolved by stomach acids... not germs.

> > Nature has programmed us to consume, not just reproduce.
> > The ONLY difference between us and the Sun is how/what we consume.
> 
> We consume to get the energy to reproduce and build new copies of ourselves.
> The sun consumes to die, not to create more new suns...

Nature gave us (aging) pains to prod us on, to consume;
suicides, homicides and war are just BAD pain management.
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              AndrzejMatuch  22cu2d58jrjom8e67o410dlv7p11pvc9e3@4ax.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  fdc6be53-f21d-4831-9dd8-18b036b74fa3@googlegroups.com
          BranimirMaksimovic  p0ncpj$q44$1@news.albasani.net
        TakuyaSaitoh  2fde9631-db88-4565-8cb4-de69776d0b73@googlegroups.com
      BranimirMaksimovic  p0p33d$72c$1@news.albasani.net
    TakuyaSaitoh  676dbcf8-2b6b-4a00-ba8a-a9d734325a69@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--5.59pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5/5|138 Top; 24.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 171.25.193.78,  Dec 12 {  5:20pm, 2017 }:22^(PST)  Wʛʅʎ
      Not every cook is a kook, FYI.

Not every cook is a kook, FYI.
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      JohnGohde  cbdbc85e-da51-49f6-9991-79c7ca35c908@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  8e60d851-c5bb-41a4-b750-7a5d6d3bf0cf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--4.00pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/8|135 Top; 22.2 Hours, GoogleG, 185.38.14.171,  Dec 11 {  4:59pm, 2017 }:40^(PST)  WʚϷტ
      Suicides, Homicides and War are just BAD pain management.

> Better to die young than suffer a slow, lingering death,
> prolonged by modern medicine. 

I'm 58 and "modern medicine" has done nothing for me;
likely ( who knows ? ), it'd do me more harm than good,
-- it can't improve my immune system, for example.
 
> Life sucks once one's reproductive years are over 

Nature has programmed us to consume, not just reproduce.
The ONLY difference between us and the Sun is how/what we consume.

> our bodies decay, starting with the teeth.

Suicides, Homicides and War are just BAD pain management.

A squirt bottle of concentrated salt water kills tooth pain;
nothing else works as well.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.18am.Seattle.2017
        JohnGohde  05d3cd42-e052-42d8-a93d-1ced025c3f35@googlegroups.com
      TakuyaSaitoh  bc23756b-3961-4664-b248-6527ac6be442@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  6a16db0c-0bc0-4000-b5e8-b166fb8f35d2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--11.51am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/9|135 Top; 2.6 Hours, GoogleG, 104.223.123.98,  Dec 12 {  9: 2am, 2017 }:31^(PST)  Wʛoʗ
      InSoFar As the mob rules China and Russia, BitCoin makes sense.

> North Korea may be making a fortune from bitcoin mania
> http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/12/technology/north-korea-bitcoin-hoard/index.html

InSoFar As the mob rules China and Russia, BitCoin makes sense.
They lost South Korea but aren't willing to give up the North.
Yakuza like it too, of course.

OpenSource CryptoCurrencies are like Linux; Google will build on it.
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    It saddens me when people like you ( Paige Jennings )
    automatically assume the worst with older men like me.

    Sometimes, you PTSD victims are a bit funny/odd.
    I wish one of my former AP teachers sent me such an email;
    as I have NOTHING BUT RESPECT for them.
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    My respect for you ( Paige Jennings ) grows with every video I watch.
    God bless you, and keep you; may you rise up greatly.
    Then again, how did you get so god damn lucky in life, it's not fair.
    Compared to you, I'm ugly, repulsive and down right stupid.
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  I have a $40 Logitech g600 mouse; 
  I programmed 39 of the (logical) buttons, to wit:

    gShift Middle(Wheel)Click to answer the phone.
    gShift RightClick to inspect an HTML element in the DOM editor.
    gShift LeftClick to move a post to the Clipboard ( from VisualStudio2017 ).
    gShift g10 toggles my monitor on/off ( logged, Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG ).
    g19 toggles the desktop on/off.  g8 is DELETE.  g7 is Paste.
    g10 is ESC, g12 is ENTER, g15 is the SpaceBar, g20 is CTRL, g18 is AltShift.

    Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG

    All set using this, my Lua Script:

      Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT

  ToolBar Items and The files shown in this DropDown list were set using macros: 

    Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual-Studio-2017.PNG

    40 C# macros ( and some extentions ) for Visual Studio 2017:

      Jeff-Relf.Me/Snippets.TXT
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.17am.Seattle.2017
            AndrzejMatuch  s7jd2dlsg3u3d44epauu3f2ojsogp17p56@4ax.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  17a64881-c5f9-480e-8703-0e11914c252e@googlegroups.com
        ChrisAhlstrom  p07f1h$p4j$1@dont-email.me
      MrChrisV  j9qf2d1j4f4p9c3j9tbgfh6b5b45hdrgvh@4ax.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  1e155139-c463-4fa1-8aab-8fc8ace65b4e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--8.02am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|141 Top; 45.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 166.70.207.2,  Dec  6 {  7: 5am, 2017 }:  ^(PST)  WʗUк
      TestosteroneFueled Linux dudes hump delicate Mac users, I think.

> Mac users, full of testosterone, are rich and laid frequently,
> while the Linux geeks, well, just look at them....

TestosteroneFueled Linux dudes hump delicate Mac users, I think;
meanwhile, Windows users avoid the fray.
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  p064ms$hgg$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  5a273748$0$10617$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com
    Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.3490ec4dcb8a72f699255f@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.49pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1/2|42 Cool; 49.8 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET,  Dec  5 {  5:48pm, 2017 }:39^(-8)  WʖАd
      "kensi" is posting CarbonTax informercials.

"kensi" is posting CarbonTax infomercials.
When you ignore the downside, and only mention the upside,
you're a "Used Car Salesman", not a "scientist".
Our carbon dioxide greenhouse has made our planet greener.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.17am.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a27378c$0$10617$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--4.48pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a27514f$0$5598$b1db1813$7c6b8ee7@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.37pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|23 Dropped; 4.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Dec  5 {  6: 9pm, 2017 }:11^(-5)  WʖГΠ
      The following does NOT condone rape.

If, unlike Ben Jacoby, you CAN read, 
then you know that the following does NOT condone rape:
 
  Porn is produced for males, by males.
  Erotica is produced for women, by women; e.g. "Fifty Shades of Grey",
  where Christian Grey is the proverbial Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde.

  Once a lady has agreed to make love with the proper gentleman,
  she then wants to be "raped" by the "beast"; 
  e.g. Christian Grey or "Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde".

If, like Ben Jacoby, you can NOT read ( or Google )
" Fifty Shades of Grey " then watch:

  " Hottest Game of Thrones Scenes " by RedheadRedemption ( a woman ):
  YouTube.COM/watch?v=hl9ZV-7Ir34?t=261
  Starts at 4:21 minutes:seconds; watch to the end.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.17am.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a27378c$0$10617$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--4.48pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1/2|22 Dropped; 16.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Dec  5 {  4:19pm, 2017 }:17^(-5)  WʖϱɅ
      Ben Jacoby has a 3rd grade reading level.

> > Once a lady has agreed to make love with the proper gentleman,
> > she then wants to be "raped" by the "beast";
> > i.e. women want Dr Jekyll _and_ Mr Hyde.
> 
> Good thing you have no employment, Rolf, 
> because after that male sexist 
> pro-rape statement you'd be fired now.

At best, you ( Ben Jacoby ) have a 3rd grade reading level.
"Rape" is in quotes because the sentence begins:

  Once a lady has agreed to make love with the proper gentleman...

> Sure Rolf, you are the hands-down expert on what women want.
> <snort>!

I don't give a shit about your "opinions" ( i.e. insults ),
you illiterate bastard.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.17am.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  s7jd2dlsg3u3d44epauu3f2ojsogp17p56@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--10.36am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|176 Mad; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec  5 {  8:45am, 2017 }:29^(-5)  Wʖʧκ
      Christian Grey or "Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde".

> > Once a lady has agreed to make love with the proper gentleman,
> > she then wants to be "raped" by the "beast"; 
> > e.g. Christian Grey or "Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde".
> 
> Silly me, I don't know a thing about women; it's so random to me.

Porn is produced for males, by males.
Erotica is produced for women, by women; e.g. "Fifty Shades of Grey",
where Christian Grey is the proverbial Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde.

They want _both_ in a man, not just one or the other.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.18am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      OpenSource CryptoCurrencies.

Like Linux, OpenSource CryptoCurrencies should be
a tiny part of a larger, more expensive, proprietary system.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.17am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Women want Dr Jekyll _and_ Mr Hyde.

Once a lady has agreed to make love with the proper gentleman,
she then wants to be "raped" by the "beast"; 
i.e. women want Dr Jekyll _and_ Mr Hyde.
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              HughHuntzinger  5f5aad4f-bba5-4259-bc91-0db2948eb288@googlegroups.com
            Fabian  0af58b24-54b9-426a-8a9c-8d29b5ee9bb3@googlegroups.com
          ChrisAhlstrom  ovu68s$p35$4@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  0c057b8e-c407-471f-9a47-2f708fa84e5d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--5.33pm.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  18794091-abfe-407e-ab5f-7812da8aebe4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.4--3.56am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|43 Top; 7 Hours, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Dec  3 {  7:52pm, 2017 }:48^(PST)  WʕʞЮ
      Michael A. Casella ( 75 years old, former U.S. Army ).

> > Do you know Michael A. Casella ( June 13, 1942, former Psychologist ) ?
> 
> No.  What's his specialization area?

He was U.S. Army, that's all I know.
He wouldn't talk about it... I think there was a lawsuit.

" I am a retired psychologist ( licensed in Massachusetts ). ",
he says here:
https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Analytic-Philosophy-CLUB/members/235750460/
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              MrChrisV  hnp22d5ue73fdc7d7culg64oegsrjl6o6q@4ax.com
            MrChrisV  ch132d5d0b08hhfdi7lllrivoc83aqf8co@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  5f5aad4f-bba5-4259-bc91-0db2948eb288@googlegroups.com
        Fabian  0af58b24-54b9-426a-8a9c-8d29b5ee9bb3@googlegroups.com
      ChrisAhlstrom  ovu68s$p35$4@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  0c057b8e-c407-471f-9a47-2f708fa84e5d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--5.33pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/3|42 Top; 3 Hours, GoogleG,  Dec  3 {  2:14pm, 2017 }:29^(PST)  Wʕɦʕ
      Michael A. Casella ( a 73 year old former Army Psychologist ).

> > > > Oh, look:  a mere "BSEE" is trying to dispute the scientific 
> > > > peer-reviewed behavioral research pubs by a PhD level Psychologist.  
> 
> Just had a new grad start last week and their starting pay was north of $50K.
> Also looking at starting to advertise for a PhD as well 
> - their starting pay will be $115K
>   ( going higher after they complete their probationary period ).

Are you ( Hugh Huntzinger ) a Psychologist ? you hire Psychologists ?
Do you know Michael A. Casella ( a 73 year old former Army Psychologist ) ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--2.28am.Seattle.2017
            .  227dbb83-ebd1-452e-9984-0991d670b72b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--3.14am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  f2137f96-aed5-41f2-8bfd-b0419fb60805@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--9.35am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  71f16f8a-1623-49d1-bb71-b6768c0cd3e9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--5.11pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|137 Top; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 163.172.137.253,  Dec  3 {  3:43pm, 2017 }:46^(PST)  Wʕɵɪ
      Is BitCoin a DumpsterCurrency, like Linux on a DumpsterPC ?

> > Open Source Currency.
> > 
> > Olga Feldmeier spent her days working at the Union Bank of Switzerland.
> > By night, she explored blockchain technologies and thought about the 
> > economic travesty inflation once wreaked in her Ukrainian hometown.
> 
> The Govt can make transactions in bitcoin illegal but it won't, 
> like it cannot fully regulate the Internet and Usenet ;-)
> They can only go after the silkroad on the darknet 
> but it's too expensive to hack that for them either.

Is BitCoin a DumpsterCurrency, like Linux on a DumpsterPC ?

Think about it, there are over a thousand CryptoCurrencies,
with BitCoin and Ethereum leading the pack;
likewise, there are hundreds of distros, with Debian, 
Slackware, Red Hat, and Suse leading the pack.
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    sambo│sambo1960@atheist_com  p016e1$88u$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--9.42am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|1 Shifty; 49.8 Minutes, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec  3 {  7:49am, 2017 }:21  Wʕcɑ
      On Desktops, MicroSoft Windows is the standard.

On Desktops, MicroSoft Windows is the standard.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--2.28am.Seattle.2017
        .  227dbb83-ebd1-452e-9984-0991d670b72b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--3.14am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  f2137f96-aed5-41f2-8bfd-b0419fb60805@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--9.35am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|136 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 192.36.27.7,  Dec  3 {  7:30am, 2017 }: 1^(PST)  WʕZ1
      Open Source Currency.

Quoting The International Business Times, Dec 3, 2017
IBTimes.COM/meet-bitcoin-queen-Switzerlands-Crypto-Valley-2621560

  While CME Group [ The world’s largest derivatives exchange operator ]
  seeks regulatory approval to create lawful blockchain-based futures,
  to help manage volatility and hedge bitcoin positions, 
  the Swiss bank Vontobel already trades bitcoin futures.
            [...]
  Olga Feldmeier spent her days working at the Union Bank of Switzerland.
  By night, she explored blockchain technologies and thought about the 
  economic travesty inflation once wreaked in her Ukrainian hometown.

  “ I’ve seen what it means to be poor, 
    security used to be a privilege of the rich.
    Today anyone can buy bitcoin.”, she said.

  “ We’re building a decentralized marketplace for tokenized,
    alternative investments. ”, she said.

  “ The whole idea of this open source society 
    is building something new together. ”, she said.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--2.28am.Seattle.2017
    MrAA  227dbb83-ebd1-452e-9984-0991d670b72b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.3--3.14am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/6|115 Top; 10.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec  2 {  3: 8pm, 2017 }:32^(PST)  Wʔϗʘ
      BitCoin isn't a fad.

> > BitCoin bypasses censorship, prohibition, taxes and inflation.
> > The (SemiRandom) market determines its value;
> > decades from now, it'll be less random.
> 
> Decades from now it could be anything, even illegal!  
> Reminds me of when I was playing penny stocks!  
> It wasn't that the stocks were really worth anything, 
> but one was always trying to find a greater fool!

BitCoin isn't a fad because it routes around censorship, 
prohibition, taxes and inflation ( and everyone wants that ),
and it can't be killed because there's no central server/jurisdiction;
still, most people avoid it, fearing jail, theft or death.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--2.28am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      BitCoin bypasses censorship, prohibition, taxes and inflation.

BitCoin bypasses censorship, prohibition, taxes and inflation.
The (SemiRandom) market determines its value;
decades from now, it'll be less random.
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              TakuyaSaitoh  6af26476-7f7d-4e99-9f3c-3d44768513f3@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  0d13c894-8367-4e3e-9cf5-86796f3ae30e@googlegroups.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  f55391f4-45b4-4bdb-b8e2-82ee65f3f8c5@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  c7b61d2d-7e4c-4589-9d44-0cb98ff25095@googlegroups.com
      Owl  az9vb803a.bh93@rooftop.invalid
    TakuyaSaitoh  2e06cbcf-78c3-49c4-8283-fed67af3af73@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.1--4.48am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/4|139 Top; 6.2 Hours, GoogleG, 94.142.242.84,  Nov 30 { 10:27pm, 2017 }:41^(PST)  WʓΙφ
      China won't give up North Korea, nor will Putin.

China won't give up North Korea, nor will Putin.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--9.15am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  006a61bd-07a9-4691-b2be-c6b341566a40@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.28pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  4e0bb197-5c7b-44fc-a251-974ea81d4ccc@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--7.22pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|137 Top; 19.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 23.129.64.101,  Nov 30 {  6:54pm, 2017 }:36^(PST)  Wʓʕa
      You can't change what you want ( random pussy ).

> > A Useful Premise:  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. 
> > 
> >   The ( four dimensional ) timescape is static, immutable;
> >   the future is just as fixed as the past;
> >   but only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.
> 
> So yo every click on the keyboard in the future is fully predictable.

No because some things can't be known.
We're ignorant; some of us are down right comatose.

> Then yo got no choice but to wait till yo die, locked in this timeline...

You think you have a ( LeastBad ) choice, but it's an illusion.
You can't change what you want ( random pussy ).

A Useful Premise:

  We're programmed by nature to consume.
  The only difference between us and the sun, is how/what we consume.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--9.15am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  006a61bd-07a9-4691-b2be-c6b341566a40@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--6.28pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|136 Top; 35.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 171.25.193.77,  Nov 30 {  5:19pm, 2017 }:45^(PST)  Wʓʅɩ
      (SemiRandom) quanta don't have speeds.

> Well, if yo exceed the speed of light yo time travel!
> That's why we get the reversed causality in quantum mechanics.

Like rolling a pair of dice 100 times,
quanta have only probablities, not causality;
2 ( snake eyes ) happens less often than 7 ( 3 + 4, 1 + 6, etc. ).

Each toss is known to be fully causal, PseudoRandom.
The path of a storm is known to be fully causal, however unknown.

> We travel at the speed of light in the dimension of time.

If we are not moving, relative to each other, 
then I see you moving only in the temporal dimension,
not the spatial one.

Conversely, photons only move in the spatial dimension, 
not the temporal one; i.e. their ( local ) clocks don't tick.

> Quantum Action Is 10,000 Times Faster Than Light

(SemiRandom) quanta don't have speeds.

> Anyone wants to board the ship going to the past with me?

_Only_ in our dreams.

A Useful Premise:  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. 

  The ( four dimensional ) timescape is static, immutable;
  the future is just as fixed as the past;
  but only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.
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              MrChrisV  hqmq1dtv2jqlhj5u68dld7smf3ejh757e4@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  f050b9d6-26db-4169-8a62-0adc844d97d9@googlegroups.com
          MrChrisV  au8r1dd2bk1uhptrt5cslqioqht9ebdlbq@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  5a7904bf-0beb-41a3-b4cd-557d0eea73af@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  dr002dddv5me9pbick1nh25vkmtd5d8rv2@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  744e7580-fa93-4c75-bfe7-6aa105099cfe@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--4.03pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|37 Top; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Nov 30 {  2:13pm, 2017 }:17^(PST)  WʓɦɅ
      "Insane Snit" ( Michael Glasser ) is "selling", not "lying" per se.

Would someone please inform Mr. ChrisV that 
no one here is " lying shamelessly " ( as he puts it ) ?

When you ignore the downside, and only mention the upside,
you're a "Used Car/OS Salesman", not a "techie".

For example, 
"Insane Snit" ( Michael Glasser ) is "selling", not "lying" per se.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  ovpgaq$1brm$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--10.23am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1/2|15 Cool; 28.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Nov 30 {  9:49am, 2017 }:15^(-5)  WʓwɁ
      The carbon dioxide greenhouse has made our planet greener.

> Emissions of carbon dioxide from fossil fuel are on the rise again.
> We desperately need more action to stop climate change, 
> and that means putting a price on carbon.

The carbon dioxide greenhouse has made our planet greener.
When you ignore the downside, and only mention the upside,
you're a UsedCar salesman, not a scientist.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--9.15am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Nothing can move faster than light in a vacuum.

Thousands of our best and brightest have tried to DisProve
the following premise ( from Special Relativity ):

    Nothing can move faster than light in a vacuum.
    ( Special Relativity is about _inertial_ frames )

All have failed, without exception.

Switching to ( NonInertial ) General Relativity...

Light moves SLOWER near massive objects, bending its path.

     Quoting " Relativity: The Special and General Theory. ",
     by Albert Einstein, 1920: ＜＜

         A curvature of rays of light can only take place when 
         the velocity of propagation of light varies with position.

         Now we might think that as a consequence of this, 
         the special theory of relativity,
         and with it the whole theory of relativity, 
         would be laid in the dust.  

         But, in reality, this is not the case.
 
         We can only conclude that the special theory of relativity
         cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity;

         its result holds only so long as we are able to 
         disregard the influences of gravitational fields
         on the phenomena ( e.g. of light ).  ＞＞

Switching to ( NonCausal ) Quantum Mechanics...

    Quantum Correlations are acausal, like a series of dice tosses.
    The Correlations say nothing about the next roll of the dice,
    but they _can_ tell you that, in 100 tosses,
    2 ( snake eyes ) happens less often than 7 ( 3 + 4, 1 + 6, etc. ).

    Each toss is known to be fully causal, PseudoRandom.
    The path of a storm is known to be fully causal, however unknown.
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        TakuyaSaitoh  644408c9-d217-4aa9-b519-9a06d452a460@googlegroups.com
      AndrzejMatuch  kapt1dtg4lb3em9rbrnfalklg6c5co1quc@4ax.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  f5e4057a-4988-4c2c-b54b-63a8f1bb6d9c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--7.58pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|136 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 216.218.222.14,  Nov 29 {  5: 1pm, 2017 }:  ^(PST)  Wʒϸy
      The seller takes no risk on bitcoin value fluctuations.

> By the time yo can use bitcoin in any shop like credit card, 
> their value will be astronomical....  In Japan, 
> some shops actually accept them!

" Living Room of Satoshi ", a Brisbane-based cryptocurrency payment provider,
processes over $1 million AUD worth of payments each week;
it works like a Visa debit card.
https://news.bitcoin.com/australian-company-processes-1-million-worth-of-cryptocurrency-in-bill-payments-weekly/

Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square,_Inc.

  Square, Inc. is a financial services, merchant services
  aggregator and mobile payment company based in San Francisco, California.
           [...]
  In July 2013, Square launched Square Market, 
  which allows sellers to create a free online storefront
  with online payment processing functionality.

  In March 2014, Square announced it will start allowing sellers
  to accept bitcoin on their own storefronts through Square Market.
  The seller will take no risk on bitcoin value fluctuations.

Quoting " Square Stock at Risk on ‘Bitcoin Mania’ ", Nov 27, 2017
https://www.investopedia.com/news/square-stock-risk-bitcoin-mania-btig/

  In mid-November, Square started allowing some users 
  to buy and sell the digital currency on its Cash app, 
  which is similar to PayPal’s Venmo mobile app 
  and lets users send and receive money between one another.

  [ Square's market value increased 212% year-to-date, 
    to $15.4 billion, bigger than Twitter. bitcoin is up 1,000% ]
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.03pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  2ca00a17-06d6-4218-81bd-1bd75b617ac0@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.26pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  755fbf91-4ad6-4f7a-a364-1441d1058109@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--7.07am.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a1ded79$0$5739$b1db1813$5890f3ee@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--4.32pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 5/5|20 Dropped; 54.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov 28 {  3:12pm, 2017 }:51^(-5)  Wʑხp
      Pick the leastBad option.

> > Wait time for LowIncome housing, University District, Seattle:
> > 
> >    3 to 4 years
> >    https://www.seattlehousing.org/sites/default/files/Historical_Average_Wait_Times.pdf
> 
> Yeah, that's what I should do, move to the left coast with you and Bert 
> and become a serious mooch off the gummint teat! Ain't the the great 
> life! No tax breaks for the rich! Make pay to keep you and Bert alive!
> Yeah Socialism!

In this life, you have to pick the leastBad option;
sometimes, that means housing granny, 
so you don't have to see her all the time, in the street.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  f14a0094-1657-4416-a84b-b5237bdb6527@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.44am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  797f45da-360e-47a7-9a3e-a644e6beb277@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.58pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  e5ac9ace-2a75-4da5-9cd7-598b6a04d199@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--11.55pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|130 Top; 28 Minutes, GoogleG, 77.247.181.163,  Nov 27 { 11:21pm, 2017 }:58^(PST)  WʑΣϞ
      Stop telling "God" ( Nature, evolution ) what to do.

> > Stop telling "God" ( Nature, evolution ) what to do.
> > 
> >   Outside of North Korea, society evolves faster than (archaic) genes.
> >   Were Steve Jobs orphaned in North Korea, instead of California,
> >   he wouldn've died, instead of creating the iPhone and Pixar.
> 
> iPhone cost him pancreatic cancer death...  In NK, he could be still alive. 

No, we would've died super young, orphaned; further:

" You can live to be a hundred if you give up 
  all the things that make you want to live 
  to be a hundred. " -- Woody Allen.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  61bf30f7-ac45-49bb-a4f2-1d9fcdeecbc1@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  f14a0094-1657-4416-a84b-b5237bdb6527@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.44am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  797f45da-360e-47a7-9a3e-a644e6beb277@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.58pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|128 Top; 4.4 Hours, GoogleG, 93.115.95.205,  Nov 27 {  5:33pm, 2017 }: 6^(PST)  WʑʇΛ
      Stop telling "God" ( Nature, evolution ) what to do.

> > Kim JongUn should be disarmed and locked away
> > because he's _annoying_, like a dirty beggar.
> > By your logic, homeless beggars are superior... How Seppuku of you.
> 
> He is not homeless nor a beggar, he is overeating, 
> living in luxury, and can f*ck any chick in his kingdom at will.

He's an _international_ beggar, trading nukes for food, annoying us.

Inside North Korea, he's a midget who gets
less sex than his hero, Dennis Rodman.

One of my tenants is 6'8" ( 2.03 meters ) and much nicer than Kim.
Two are 6'4", one is 6'3", many 6'1" guys.

> > > You can't understand "evolution", nor any science;
> > > and, no, it doesn't mean we must starve orphans,
> > > Steve Jobs was orphaned.
> > 
> > Survival of the fittest is what you believe.
> 
> or survival of the weakest, sometimes, especially in our protective society...
> https://crev.info/2013/08/survival-of-the-weakest/
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090213115127.htm
> 
> cold-adapted species burn excess calories for heat
> while negroes get fat and die.  Crossbreed them, and yo get 
> the ordinary DinDuNuttn surviving well in the US social system.

Stop telling "God" ( Nature, evolution ) what to do.

  Outside of North Korea, society evolves faster than (archaic) genes.
  Were Steve Jobs orphaned in North Korea, instead of California,
  he wouldn've died, instead of creating the iPhone and Pixar.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--10.27am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      The 1%, a.k.a. The Pareto Distribution.

The 1%, a.k.a. The Pareto Distribution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_FfS1kHfY
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  5416b562-2093-4953-96d4-e420e07689b3@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.03pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  2ca00a17-06d6-4218-81bd-1bd75b617ac0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.26pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  755fbf91-4ad6-4f7a-a364-1441d1058109@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--7.07am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|124 Top; 44.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 216.218.222.12,  Nov 26 { 11:34pm, 2017 }:34^(PST)  WʐщР
      Wait time for LowIncome housing, University District, Seattle.

> > > When yo health deteriorates yo will be on the street :-( 
> > 
> > No, I'll move in with you and harass you day and night ( ha ha ).
> > Actually, I qualify for free housing, here in Seattle.
> 
> free home for the elderly? 

No, for those with 30 percent or less of the local median income, 
$80 K per year, especially the disabled or 62+ years old.
I live rent free, and my income is $6 K, 8% of the median.

> how long is the waiting list?
> could be dead by the time they assign one....

Wait time for LowIncome housing, University District, Seattle:

  3 to 4 years
  https://www.seattlehousing.org/sites/default/files/Historical_Average_Wait_Times.pdf
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.38am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  231a5325-c257-4014-bbe7-6c9e98380dac@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  61bf30f7-ac45-49bb-a4f2-1d9fcdeecbc1@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  f14a0094-1657-4416-a84b-b5237bdb6527@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.44am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|124 Top; 50.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 216.218.222.12,  Nov 26 { 11:28pm, 2017 }:45^(PST)  WʐшЫ
      Every paradox begins with a false, useless premise.

> > Move to North Korea then, and enjoy getting raped by the fat man, Kim JongUn;
> > he builds build better people there, according to you.
> 
> If Kim JongUn lived like an ordinary soldier in his army
> he wouldn't survive, that's the paradox.

Every paradox begins with a false, useless premise.

> Perhaps his family has evolved superior mental abilities to control 
> the nation and stay in power.  Strength isn't always physical....

Kim JongUn should be disarmed and locked away
because he's _annoying_, like a dirty beggar.
By your logic, homeless beggars are superior... How Seppuku of you.

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Seppuku.JPG" Alt='Ukiyo-e woodblock print of warrior about to perform seppuku.'>
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
        AndrzejMatuch  gjol1dtrids6gpi0kralgb0fqrdivlmv5v@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--6.15pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  2139ddaa-0ff9-4441-bea7-3f189d866d6f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.52pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|122 Top; 13.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 37.187.94.86,  Nov 26 {  9:15pm, 2017 }:24^(PST)  Wʐвε
      Girls do jail time for reporting a rape.

> >   in 2015 it was announced that all women in North Korea 
> >   must do seven years' military service from the age of 18.
> >   [...]
> >   Lee So Yeon also says that she was not raped [ yeah, right ]
> >   during her time in the army between 1992 and 2001, 
> >   but that many of her comrades were.    
> > 
> >   " The company commander would stay in his room at the 
> >     unit after hours and rape the female soldiers under his command.
> >     This would happen over and over without an end. "    
> >   [...]
> >   " most of the time nobody is willing to testify. 
> >     So men often go unpunished," says Juliette Morillot.    
> > 
> >   She adds that silence about sexual abuse in the army is rooted
> >   in the " patriarchal attitudes of North Korean society "
> >   - the same attitudes that ensure that 
> >     women in the army do most of the chores.    
> > 
> >   " Domestic violence is still widely accepted, and NOT REPORTED, 
> >     so it is the same in the army. "
> 
> What do they do with the babies after rapes?
> Is there any special army unit for performing abortions?

Abortion is performed on request, up to the seventh month of pregnancy,
at provincial maternity hospitals, free of charge.

Infants with disabilities are routinely abandoned or killed,
while those who survive are often subjected to forced sterilization. 
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  c22c2cd4-f9d6-4d77-970e-84bc6f0c72e6@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.38am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  231a5325-c257-4014-bbe7-6c9e98380dac@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  61bf30f7-ac45-49bb-a4f2-1d9fcdeecbc1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|122 Top; 14.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 37.187.94.86,  Nov 26 {  9:14pm, 2017 }:15^(PST)  Wʐвʇ
      Enjoy getting raped by the fat man, Kim JongUn.

> > Nature programmed you to do the wrong thing ( Rape and OverEat );
> > Starvation and Systemic Rape makes us worse, not better.
> 
> This program is right for its purpose, i.e. proliferate and evolve our race...  
> Yo need to fuck and eat to build new babies.  
> "Bad" for the individual, good for the society.

Move to North Korea then, and enjoy getting raped by the fat man, Kim JongUn;
he builds build better people there, according to you.

Nov 26, 2017:

  North Korean test caused 6.3 magnitude earthquake injuring up to 150 children.
  Explosion triggered aftershocks in North Hamgyong Province within minutes.
  State defectors South and North Development revealed the fatalities today.
  Devastation hit farms, destroyed home and gave soldiers radiation sickness.
  Regime accused of not warning locals of the imminent nuclear missile tests.
  Pupils injured in the earthquake were in class as usual when it hit their school.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.40am.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  e346d0b3-42b8-42a3-bac8-8a7d93c7482f@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  5416b562-2093-4953-96d4-e420e07689b3@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.03pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  2ca00a17-06d6-4218-81bd-1bd75b617ac0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.26pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|123 Top; 2.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 37.187.94.86,  Nov 26 {  9: 9pm, 2017 }:18^(PST)  WʐбΨ
      I qualify for free housing, here in Seattle.

> > MUCH cheaper food.
> 
> Raised by health harming chemicals by Monsanto etc.

" You can live to be a hundred if you give up 
  all the things that make you want to live 
  to be a hundred. " -- Woody Allen.

> > Even for me, with my SubPoverty income, the cost of food is a complete NonIssue.
> > Housing, on the other hand, is THEE ISSUE.
> 
> When yo health deteriorates yo will be on the street :-( 

No, I'll move in with you and harass you day and night ( ha ha ).
Actually, I qualify for free housing, here in Seattle.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  6213cc5a-6df1-4473-985c-5a4c1ea97c75@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.40am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  e346d0b3-42b8-42a3-bac8-8a7d93c7482f@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  5416b562-2093-4953-96d4-e420e07689b3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--9.03pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|35 Top; 8.7 Hours, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Nov 26 {  8:40am, 2017 }:24^(PST)  WʐʦЖ
      MUCH cheaper food.

> > The carbon dioxide greenhouse has made our planet greener.
> > Frozen Pizza is often $1, same as 10 years ago.
> > Ramen is 25 cents, about the same as 30 years ago, ignoring inflation.
> 
> Undone by changes in weather, resulting in higher rates of drought, 
> extreme weather, flooding, which results in more catastrophic crop failures.

I haven't seen that, sorry; 
in fact, I've seen the opposite: MUCH cheaper food.

> > Currently, I spend about $120/month, $28 per week on food;
> > it'd be _Zero_ if I went to food banks or applied for food stamps.
> 
> Thst assumes those social safety nets haven't been abolished by current 
> administration, as well as an assumption that there will be affordable food 
> (Or food at all) for them to buy to use in distribution programs. 
> Those are not good assumptions, particularly in the longer term.

Even for me, with my SubPoverty income, the cost of food is a complete NonIssue.
Housing, on the other hand, is THEE ISSUE.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a1a1d3b$0$50495$b1db1813$d8d38339@news.astraweb.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--9.44pm.Seattle.2017
        MichaelMoroney  ovehs7$1ap$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.09am.Seattle.2017
    MichaelMoroney  oves70$scd$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--8.53pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|114 Dropped; 9.4 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Nov 26 {  9: 4am, 2017 }:32  WʐʪО
      Disarm them, and lock them up.

> > Ask Koreans, both here and in South Korea, and they'll tell you that
> > they're much more worried about getting shot here, in America, than Seoul.
> 
> So South Koreans think Kim is sane enough to stay put and keep playing
> with his rockets and bombs. Maybe he's really just a pyromaniac who likes
> his fireworks.  BIG fireworks.  
> 
> They likely know him better than we do.
> Anyway, if that is the case, South Korea shouldn't invade,
> and keep Seoul safe and artillery shell free.

We might not be afraid of thieving junkies running around,
armed to the teeth, like we see here, in America,
but that doesn't mean we shouldn't disarm them, and lock them up.

Likewise, the South should invade the North.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  c22c2cd4-f9d6-4d77-970e-84bc6f0c72e6@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.38am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  231a5325-c257-4014-bbe7-6c9e98380dac@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|122 Top; 4.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 80.67.172.162,  Nov 26 {  6:15pm, 2017 }: 2^(PST)  WʐДΗ
      Starvation and Systemic Rape makes us worse, not better.

> > Outside of North Korea, society evolves faster than (archaic) genes.
> > Were Steve Jobs orphaned in North Korea, instead of California,
> > he wouldn've died, instead of creating the iPhone and Pixar.
> 
> Steve Jobs' fragile technology will be useless during nuclear war,
> the first EMP blast disables all electronics and erases data storages...
> Only the best wetware will survive and procreate after "the war"

Nature programmed you to do the wrong thing ( Rape and OverEat );
Starvation and Systemic Rape makes us worse, not better.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  gjol1dtrids6gpi0kralgb0fqrdivlmv5v@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--6.15pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|238 Mad; 9.5 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 26 {  7:51am, 2017 }:24^(-5)  Wʐʞε
      Girls do jail time for reporting a rape.

> > North Korean women have to serve 7 years in the military; 
> > during which, they're systematically raped by their superiors. 
> > Anyone foolish enough to complain, soon gets corrected. 
> 
> Any cite on this? I'm not doubting your word 
> but I am curious who reported on this.

" Women and brooms need periodic beatings ", they say.
In Dubai, girls do jail time for reporting a rape.
Even in America, reporting a rape gets you in deep, deep trouble.

Google: rape North Korea

First hit: " Rape and no periods in North Korea's army "
By Megha Mohan BBC World Service, Nov 21, 2017
BBC.COM/news/stories-41778470

  A former soldier says life as a woman in the world's fourth-largest army
  was so tough that most soon stopped menstruating.
  And rape, she says, was a fact of life for many of those she served with.
  [...]
  the army failed to make provision for menstruation, 
  during her time in the military, 
  and that she and other female colleagues often had no 
  choice but to reuse sanitary pads.    

  " Women to this day still use the traditional white cotton pads ",
  says Juliette Morillot. 
  " They have to be washed every night when out of men's sight,
    so women get up early and wash them. "    
  [...]
  in 2015 it was announced that all women in North Korea 
  must do seven years' military service from the age of 18.
  [...]
  Lee So Yeon also says that she was not raped [ yeah, right ]
  during her time in the army between 1992 and 2001, 
  but that many of her comrades were.    

  " The company commander would stay in his room at the 
    unit after hours and rape the female soldiers under his command.
    This would happen over and over without an end. "    
  [...]
  " most of the time nobody is willing to testify. 
    So men often go unpunished," says Juliette Morillot.    

  She adds that silence about sexual abuse in the army is rooted
  in the " patriarchal attitudes of North Korean society "
  - the same attitudes that ensure that 
    women in the army do most of the chores.    

  " Domestic violence is still widely accepted, and NOT REPORTED, 
    so it is the same in the army. "
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  6213cc5a-6df1-4473-985c-5a4c1ea97c75@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.40am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  e346d0b3-42b8-42a3-bac8-8a7d93c7482f@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  t8ol1dl1j22h2jkavi9e47s70nliaokcbb@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--5.29pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|238 Mad; 9.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 26 {  7:44am, 2017 }:35^(-5)  Wʐʝʛ
      Everyone wants to live in a "liberal" city.

> > Rent, on the other hand, has gone up about 8% per year in Seattle. 
> > The ordinary house I grew up in, a few blocks from where I am now, 
> > now costs 1.2 million, according to Zillow... that's a lot of Ramen. 
> 
> That's what happens when liberals are in power. Every place where
> their kind of politics have become the standard, housing has become
> unaffordable. It's the same thing in Vancouver and Toronto where
> conservatism is seen as evil. 

Supply and Demand, everyone wants to live in a "liberal" city.

" Vancouver area benchmark house price now [ $1.1 million USD ], 
  up 30% in 1 year ", May 3, 2016: 
    http://www.CBC.CA/news/Canada/British-Columbia/Vancouver-real-estate-house-prices-1.3564528
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  c22c2cd4-f9d6-4d77-970e-84bc6f0c72e6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.38am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|120 Top; 17.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 192.36.27.7,  Nov 26 {  2:30am, 2017 }:22^(PST)  WʐɩM
      Outside of North Korea, society evolves faster than (archaic) genes.

Outside of North Korea, society evolves faster than (archaic) genes.
Were Steve Jobs orphaned in North Korea, instead of California,
he wouldn've died, instead of creating the iPhone and Pixar.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  6213cc5a-6df1-4473-985c-5a4c1ea97c75@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.40am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  e346d0b3-42b8-42a3-bac8-8a7d93c7482f@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  005cd74b-16ac-473c-81bf-c0df813a1f67@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.24am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|121 Top; 4.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 176.36.117.185,  Nov 26 {  7: 9am, 2017 }:37^(PST)  Wʐʗς
      I might die " before my time ", but no doctor would change that.

> Thriving on ramen and junk food at the front of computer
> you would get sick sooner or later, how would yo include 
> the chemo/radiation/surgery/rehabilitation costs in yo budget?

I don't go to doctors.  10 years ago, I walked to the emergency room,
after getting supoer sick from a long night smoking a (huge) Cuban cigar.

It cost me nothing, because I filed the proper paper work.
Other than injecting fluids, the hospital did _nothing_ for me;
they had no idea what happened or why... probably dehydration.

I might die " before my time ", but no doctor would change that.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a1a1d3b$0$50495$b1db1813$d8d38339@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--9.44pm.Seattle.2017
    MichaelMoroney  ovehs7$1ap$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.09am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|111 Dropped; 53.8 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Nov 26 {  6: 8am, 2017 }: 7  Wʐʍɿ
      You're more likely to get shot in America than Seoul.

> Seoul is within artillery range of the North.  
> No way to take all that out before Kim shouts "Fire!" 
> and seconds later, thousands and thousands die in Seoul.  

Ask Koreans, both here and in South Korea, and they'll tell you that 
they're much more worried about getting shot here, in America, than Seoul.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.53am.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  82f826d1-d646-4005-b2f2-27214d3077ac@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  6213cc5a-6df1-4473-985c-5a4c1ea97c75@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.40am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  e346d0b3-42b8-42a3-bac8-8a7d93c7482f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--7.00am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|38 Top; 25.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Nov 26 {  5:42am, 2017 }:11^(PST)  WʐʉB
      Ramen is 25 cents, about the same as 30 years ago, ignoring inflation.

> how will your budget be doing if just your basic food budget 
> increases by $250 per week?  No, not an exaggeration,
> and this includes knocking down nice stuff to cheap rice, etc.

The carbon dioxide greenhouse has made our planet greener.
Currently, I spend about $120/month, $28 per week, on food;
it'd be _Zero_ if I went to food banks or applied for food stamps.

A gallon of fresh whole milk costs $2.75 and lasts for days.
A 22oz loaf of bread costs $1.29 and lasts for days.
Chicken can be had for 75 cents per pound, at times.

A can of tuna is 79 cents.  Cheese and peanut butter are cheap, 
and last a long time.  Frozen Pizza is often $1, same as 10 years ago.
Ramen is 25 cents, about the same as 30 years ago, ignoring inflation.

Rent, on the other hand, has gone up about 8% per year.
The ordinary house I grew up in, a few blocks from where I am now,
now costs 1.2 million, according to Zillow... that's a lot of Ramen.
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              TakuyaSaitoh  c7cb642c-c85c-4553-b034-c26940895ff9@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.53am.Seattle.2017
          HughHuntzinger  82f826d1-d646-4005-b2f2-27214d3077ac@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
      HughHuntzinger  6213cc5a-6df1-4473-985c-5a4c1ea97c75@googlegroups.com
    MichaelGlasser  D63FB282.BDA22%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.49am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|388 Dropped; 1.9 Hours, MS_Entourage➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Nov 25 { 10:51pm, 2017 }:30^(-7)  WʐȺλ
      You're a UsedCar salesman, not a scientist.

> > > Plants love carbon dioxide greenhouses.
> > > Humans can/should adapt.
> 
> He thinks he knows more about climate science than does the
> entirety of the relevant scientific experts. When he starts with that level
> of irrationality it can be sure that reason will not convince him.

You're talking to the man in mirror.
When you ignore the downside, and only mention the upside,
you're a UsedCar salesman, not a scientist.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.01am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  c7cb642c-c85c-4553-b034-c26940895ff9@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.53am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  82f826d1-d646-4005-b2f2-27214d3077ac@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  6213cc5a-6df1-4473-985c-5a4c1ea97c75@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.26--0.40am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|39 Top; 40.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.40.201,  Nov 25 {  9: 8pm, 2017 }:43^(PST)  Wʐpʣ
      How you budget matters more than your income.

> > Plants love carbon dioxide greenhouses.
> > Humans can/should adapt.
> 
> Takes money/resources, which is currently overly concentrated in the 1%, 
> who will take care of themselves and leave the rest of us to .. die.

The top 1 percent make $717 K/year, the median is about $58 K, 2016.
Counting (untaxed) benefits (free rent), I make about 12 K per year,
and I feel super rich; how you budget matters more than your income.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a1a1d3b$0$50495$b1db1813$d8d38339@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--9.44pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4/4|14 Dropped; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov 25 {  5:47pm, 2017 }:33^(-5)  WʐHმ
      Ben Jacoby slanders our police; lets send him to North Korea.

> > Not _everyone_ should have weapons.
> > You wouldn't walk into a hospice and hand out machine guns;
> > " Here you go, granny, just press the trigger. ", right ? !
> 
> It's our RIGHT to have weapons, 
> including granny, unless she's certified insane.
> Likewise, sovereign nations have a right to weapons.

Not only is arming granny stupid -- BenJacobyLevel stupid --
it has nothing to do with our right to a ( drunk ) " militia ".

Even if arming ThievingJunkies were a good idea, it's not preferable
to the rape, forced births/deaths, and starvation in North Korea.

> > The United States doesn't violate basic human rights,
> > not like North Korea.
> 
> And the way you know this is? Superpowers I presume.

How is it you don't know ? stupidity, I presume.

> The United States is one of the WORST offenders

Move to North Korea then, please.

> > North Korean women have to serve 8 years in the military;
> > during which, they're systematically raped by their superiors.
> > Anyne foolish enough to complain, soon gets corrected.
> 
> Says you. Hey you probably were rejected went this country was 
> involuntarily gathering young people and shipping them to Viet Nam.

You flaunt your stupidity; U.S. soldiers weren't female,
nor were they systematically raped, nor starved to death.

> > Contraception, including condoms, is illegal.
> 
> My glorious leader is Catholic?

We already know you're a retard, please stop flaunting it.

> > If you don't starve to death, or get shot,
> > before your service ( or jail term ) is up,
> > you're one of the lucky ones.
> 
> It's a valid way out of a Hell Hole.

You're suicidal/homicidal.
You don't believe in our police, or soldiers.

> > With constant electrical outages, it takes women two weeks
> > to smuggle stuff in from China, by train;
> > during which, they're groped and raped by the police.
> 
> Well, we don't do that! 
> Our police just shoot them ( especially if of a different race )

Ben Jacoby slanders our police; lets send him to North Korea.

> > Still, they make the trip, again and again.
> > The weak die first, of course:  Orphans, elderly, etc.
> 
> It's called "evolution", Rolf. 

You can't understand "evolution", nor any science;
and, no, it doesn't mean we must starve orphans,
Steve Jobs was orphaned.

> > Yemen, Syria, Somalia, North Korea, etc. like the
> > " stone age aesthetic " -- it's a pedophile's paradise;
> > if a kid complains, they die, no " freedom of speech ".
> > Everyone's life is cheap; South Korea should invade the North.
> 
> We already tried and failed.

Ben Jacoby doesn't believe in our police, or soldiers.
We should ship him to North Korea, then invade.
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              .  5a18a5c8$0$2075$b1db1813$7ad5c21@news.astraweb.com
            .  ovbshn$1k20$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.01am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  c7cb642c-c85c-4553-b034-c26940895ff9@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.53am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  82f826d1-d646-4005-b2f2-27214d3077ac@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--8.40pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|38 Top; 9.8 Hours, GoogleG,  Nov 25 { 10:17am, 2017 }:48^(PST)  Wʏмც
      Plants love carbon dioxide greenhouses.

> > Anyone who claims Global Warming is _all_ bad is lying.
> 
> Any significant change is going to cause economic disruptions .. 
> and what's more the concern is the net effects and not any 
> singular one.  In this regards, the man-caused acceleration of 
> the rate of change will cause more overall hardship than not.

Famously, plants love carbon dioxide greenhouses.
Humans can/should adapt.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a19b66a$0$1808$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--3.34pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/4|277 Dropped; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov 25 { 10:28am, 2017 }:52^(-5)  Wʏов
      Anyone foolish enough to complain, soon gets corrected.

> North Korea is a sovereign nation just like England, 
> France and the USA and has the same right to 
> develop weapons to defend itself.

Not _everyone_ should have weapons.
You wouldn't walk into a hospice and hand out machine guns;
" Here you go, granny, just press the trigger. ", right ? !

The United States doesn't violate basic human rights,
not like North Korea.

North Korean women have to serve 8 years in the military;
during which, they're systematically raped by their superiors.
Anyone foolish enough to complain, soon gets corrected.

Contraception, including condoms, is illegal.

If you don't starve to death, or get shot,
before your service ( or jail term ) is up, 
you're one of the lucky ones.

With constant electrical outages, it takes women two weeks 
to smuggle stuff in from China, by train;
during which, they're groped and raped by the police.

Still, they make the trip, again and again.
The weak die first, of course:  Orphans, elderly, etc.

Yemen, Syria, Somalia, North Korea, etc. like the 
" stone age aesthetic " -- it's a pedophile's paradise;
if a kid complains, they die, no " freedom of speech ".
Everyone's life is cheap; South Korea should invade the North.
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              BenJacoby  5a18a5c8$0$2075$b1db1813$7ad5c21@news.astraweb.com
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  ovbshn$1k20$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.01am.Seattle.2017
        .  c7cb642c-c85c-4553-b034-c26940895ff9@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.53am.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a19ba93$0$29371$b1db1813$7c6b8ee7@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4/4|277 Dropped; 4.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov 25 { 10:46am, 2017 }:38^(-5)  WʏсФ
      I live high up on a hill, way from the ocean.

> > Anyone who claims Global Warming is _all_ bad is lying;
> > fact is, it's a mixed bag.
> 
> That rising sea level that is chasing the 
> geezers out of Florida will fill your basement "command center'

Seattle isn't flat, like Florida.
I live high up on a hill, way from the ocean.
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            .  ov6jum$1ppv$1@gioia.aioe.org
          .  5a18a5c8$0$2075$b1db1813$7ad5c21@news.astraweb.com
        .  ovbshn$1k20$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.01am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  c7cb642c-c85c-4553-b034-c26940895ff9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--7.53am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|121 Top; 29.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 192.160.102.168,  Nov 25 {  7:20am, 2017 }:14^(PST)  WʏПʆ
      Anyone who claims Global Warming is _all_ bad is lying.

> > Global Warming isn't all bad;
> > Alaska, Siberia, Canada and Norway _need_ warming.
> 
> Sure and we all need the erratic weather, 
> floods, hurricanes, drought and forest fires, 
> tornadoes, huge temperature jumps in short time etc....

Anyone who claims Global Warming is _all_ bad is lying;
fact is, it's a mixed bag.
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  ov6jum$1ppv$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  5a18a5c8$0$2075$b1db1813$7ad5c21@news.astraweb.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  ovbshn$1k20$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--6.01am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 2/2|6 Shifty; 3.6 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Nov 25 {  5:51am, 2017 }:48^(-5)  WʏАϓ
      Global Warming isn't all bad.

Global Warming isn't all bad;
Alaska, Siberia, Canada and Norway _need_ warming.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  f4bd461d-729b-4f83-ae99-09ab3effe02e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.25--5.33am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|121 Top; 2.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.196.158,  Nov 25 {  5: 9am, 2017 }:28^(PST)  WʏϹι
      South Korea must invade North Korea.

> > North Korea should be DisArmed and locked away.
> 
> Trump doesn't have the balls to do it.
> He is just able to wave his dick at the NK front door...

South Korea must invade.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.42pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      North Korea is a WellArmed thieving junkie, sick.

  North Korea is a WellArmed thieving junkie, sick;
  for its own safety, and safety of others, 
  we must lock it away and take its weapons.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--8.43am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Free.Newsservers, News.Software.Readers
      Only the state can violate personal privacy.

Wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Switzerland

  In 2010 the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland 
  found that IP addresses are personal information and 
  that under Swiss privacy laws they may not be used to 
  track Internet usage without the knowledge of the individuals involved. 

  Switzerland's Federal Data Protection and Information Commissioner
  praised the decision and said that companies using personal 
  information to track Internet usage are assuming 
  " tasks clearly in the State's domain " 
  and only the state can violate personal privacy 
  and only when pursuing criminal cases.  

  In November 2011 the Swiss government ruled that 
  downloading unlicensed copies of films, music and 
  video games for personal use will remain legal, 
  because it is not detrimental to copyright owners.  
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              mitchrae3323@gmail_com  251ddb79-72b3-4f43-a314-b40478d5258c@googlegroups.com
            EdProchak  b0629f37-8c6f-441f-bb18-381e4b65dd32@googlegroups.com
          mitchrae3323@gmail_com  d607c102-a181-4932-bb76-42a56d2567c8@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  6f9a8c48-f048-4d5f-afea-0c954b883c46@googlegroups.com
      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  e2e5432c-ba17-4ffa-a45b-445a902f897d@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  8f425348-63db-4c38-ac29-4c9bd0e307ae@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--6.33am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/5|145 Top; 21.3 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Nov 22 {  8:48am, 2017 }:11^(PST)  WʍЮB
      The Wild Wild Usenet.

> If you want to talk about beliefs, you are in the wrong group.

While this, above, might be true for WikiPedia,
it sure as hell isn't here, on the Wild Wild Usenet.

Here, MostEveryone is like my BrotherInLaw;
i.e. they don't believe we landed on the moon, etc.

They hate the way the goverment takes/uses "their" money;
so it's _useful_ for them to think that NASA is also incompetent;
compared to that, truthiness doesn't really matter.

  Empirical evidence is best; however,
  religion is ( too often ) the LeastBad option.
  And it's our fault, for not providing better options.
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          .  ov420j$17g7$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--8.54am.Seattle.2017
      AndrzejMatuch  f9bb1ddd2dge2tkvc0cpkrs4keeu0llisr@4ax.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  9c430294-eec0-4f9d-b255-7c0706fc2399@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--11.13pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/4|127 Top; 3.3 Hours, GoogleG, 204.11.50.131,  Nov 22 {  7: 9pm, 2017 }: 4^(PST)  WʎVΙ
      $700 worth of electricity is consumed each time you buy a stick of gum.

You can buy&sell bitcoins to/from dollars.  A USB stick is your wallet,
-- keep it OffLine most of the time and back it up.
This way, you can avoid IRS seizures, 
-- assuming they don't search your body&house.

" Living Room of Satoshi ", a Brisbane-based cryptocurrency payment provider,
processes over $1 million AUD worth of payments each week;
it works like a Visa debit card.
https://news.bitcoin.com/australian-company-processes-1-million-worth-of-cryptocurrency-in-bill-payments-weekly/

About $700 worth of electricity is consumed each time you buy a stick of gum;
miners are happy because they're paid in new bitcoins, $$$,
-- ideally, they're located next to a GeoThermal|HydroElectric plant, 
and using _UltraCustom_ hard/software.

Quoting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square,_Inc.

  Square, Inc. is a financial services, merchant services
  aggregator and mobile payment company based in San Francisco, California.
           [...]
  In July 2013, Square launched Square Market, 
  which allows sellers to create a free online storefront
  with online payment processing functionality.

  In March 2014, Square announced it will start allowing sellers
  to accept bitcoin on their own storefronts through Square Market.
  The seller will take no risk on bitcoin value fluctuations.
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    Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  ov420j$17g7$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--8.54am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|208 Mad; 14.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Nov 22 {  6:35am, 2017 }:59^(-6)  WʍЗჵ
      Bitcoin has gone from $2 in 2011 to $8,290 today.

> " One Bitcoin Transaction Now Uses as Much Energy as Your House in [ 8.2 days ]. "
> https://MotherBoard.Vice.COM/en_us/article/ywbbpm/bitcoin-mining-electricity-consumption-ethereum-energy-climate-change

Bitcoin has gone from $2 in 2011 to $8,290 today.

Quoting " Bitcoin Soars Past $8,000 "
Bloomberg.COM/news/articles/2017-11-19/bitcoin-soars-past-8-000-as-technology-shift-concern-vanishes

  Bitcoin’s value is up more than 700 percent this year [ to $8,290 ].
  Three slumps of more than 25% have all given way to rallies.
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      Fabian  ounv5v02hml@news3.newsguy.com
    Pabst_Blue_Ribbon│pabst@blue_  fK8RB.19345$4c.15421@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.37pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|2 Shifty; 1.8 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 21 { 10:24pm, 2017 }:11  WʍΙB
      Money, not Richard Stallman, powers PowerLinux.

> > What is the only OS for IBM Power?  Linux, of course.
> > For PROFESSIONAL computing there is only GNU/Linux.
> 
> IBM is using PowerLinux, their own Linux distribution.
> Not sure if it can be referred to as "GNU/Linux".

Money, not Richard Stallman, powers PowerLinux.
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          TakuyaSaitoh  482fa739-9f39-44b0-af05-444e2c2142f3@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--2.10am.Seattle.2017
      TakuyaSaitoh  912093b6-21d0-48ec-a0be-5a5d51ccba5b@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  66a6688a-e942-4c79-934d-166502fca7d6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.38am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/3|129 Top; 41 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.34.210,  Nov 21 {  6:35am, 2017 }:11^(PST)  WʍPх
      If "quantum computing" were useful, I wouldn't call it bullshit.

If "quantum computing" were useful, I wouldn't call it bullshit.
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    TakuyaSaitoh  482fa739-9f39-44b0-af05-444e2c2142f3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--2.10am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|130 Top; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, 163.172.162.106,  Nov 21 {   :50am, 2017 }:25^(PST)  Wʌზʑ
      Replace the word "quantum" with "bullshit".

> The Quantum Internet

Replace the word "quantum" with "bullshit" 
and you'll be right more often than not.
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    We all want to be around those ( men or women )
    with a nice countenance, a lovely face,
    and pleasant expressions.
■
    Please, Emma, stop _slandering_ 57 year olds.
    You should be more worried about 29 year old
    _drunks_ who might be around you too much.
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            BranimirMaksimovic  ouocec$ofm$1@dont-email.me
          Fabian  oupfp31pio@news4.newsguy.com
        SteveCarroll  6ee3ce43-e76e-4b21-8848-ee35366b13d0@googlegroups.com
      Fabian  oupo9v01pa4@news6.newsguy.com
    SteveCarroll  ab43ae57-92ca-491f-a8a4-e78acd6fe4bf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--2.54pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|99 Cool; 21 Secs, GoogleG,  Nov 18 {  2:27pm, 2017 }:44^(PST)  Wʋɨω
      Would you post .MKV or .MP4 files instead ?

Would you ( Steve Carroll ) post .MKV or .MP4 files,
instead of "https://vid.me/211ia" ?

I ask because I much prefer watching videos in 
( my highly customized ) Zoom Player Max, insted of a browser.
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      Pentcho_Valev│pvalev@yahoo_com  61c2d8d3-4183-4b35-a460-bdd82abf6a44@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  d46ff91c-e261-42a4-8904-5b5caa397e6e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--2.19pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|133 Top; 8 Secs, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Nov 17 {  2:14pm, 2017 }:23^(PST)  Wʊχʏ
      "eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ) created the known Universe.

> Why are you so obsessed with the Second Law of Thermodynamics?
> We all know it is only Steam Age physics!

"eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ) created the known Universe;
and, eventually, it will destroy it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--5.58pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  2ee5637a-621f-4fed-b5d8-3158f41a5df0@googlegroups.com
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  37e3d7ae-24d0-4a55-b603-d22d15d31fe7@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  d9ba0e92-882d-481b-a6f3-f553b116f82e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--1.57pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  3cb82911-ec57-4f8f-871e-39e9586ea46e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--6.51pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|136 Top; 21.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 5.9.158.75,  Nov 16 {  6:20pm, 2017 }:42^(PST)  WʊNʢ
      Samsung's lies.

> 850 EVO: sequential read up to 520 MB/s
> http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/850evo.html
> 
> 960 EVO NVMe: 3,200MB/s Seq. Read
> https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-960-evo-m-2-250gb-mz-v6e250bw/

"Sequential Reads" aren't _RealWorld_.
Give me _RealWorld_ benchmarks, not Samsung's lies.

  " Most INSANE SSD RAID Setup – IT BOOTS! "
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzavO5a4OQ
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  37e3d7ae-24d0-4a55-b603-d22d15d31fe7@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  d9ba0e92-882d-481b-a6f3-f553b116f82e@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--1.57pm.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  d0998740-721f-4ece-86e3-1d7948f2efbb@googlegroups.com
      TakuyaSaitoh  b71a0d68-4ea5-4018-93e9-f2dd6b3c3254@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  e87672b0-1f7c-41f4-aa66-e3ae9589a034@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--6.40pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/3|135 Top; 3.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 5.9.158.75,  Nov 16 {  6:12pm, 2017 }:47^(PST)  WʊMl
      RealWorld benchmarks ( and warranties ).

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express

Check RealWorld benchmarks ( and warranties ), won't you ? ! :

  " Most INSANE SSD RAID Setup – IT BOOTS! "
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzavO5a4OQ

Note how _difficult_ it is to get up an running properly.
Forget Intel, you need an expert from AMD to visit your house.

Even if you manage to get that far, with SemiWorking soft/hardware,
it's still slower than my SATA III SSD when it comes to 
4 KiloByte Reads and Writes ( Random or Queued ).

Check the Samsung NVMe 960 Pro warrenty,
it's YEARS shorter than the one I have, because it runs ＨＯＴ.

  $299 Samsung 850 EVO, SATA III, 3 Watts, superHigh IOPS, 
  1 gig RAM buffer and a 3 core CPU/controller.
  "5 Years or 300 Terabytes Written" warranty;
  i.e. it can write 80 gigs per day, each day, for 10 years.
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      EdProchak  be41fb8b-e0fb-4d3d-b34f-8849a3308229@googlegroups.com
    Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  ouke2o$ntb$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--2.14pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4/5|221 Mad; 5.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Nov 16 {  8:23am, 2017 }:39^(-6)  WʉЩს
      Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.

> > Bullshit Detection
> > http://littlesvr.ca/grumble/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Bullshit-detection.pdf
> 
> from that paper:
> 
>   Indeed, as intimated by Frankfurt (2005), bullshitting is something
>   that we likely all engage in to some degree (p. 1): “One of the most
>   salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit.
>   
>   Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share.” One benefit of
>   gaining a better understanding of how we reject other’s bullshit is that
>   it may teach us to be more cognizant of our own bullshit.

  Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.
  Communism:     "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  Capitalism:    "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  Christianity:  "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  All theories:  "wrong" but occasionally useful.

  Empirical evidence is best; however,
  religion is (too often) the LeastBad option.
  And it's our fault, for not providing better options.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.03am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  88c5f1eb-75d7-4cd9-aea8-06b7826f20eb@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--5.58pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  2ee5637a-621f-4fed-b5d8-3158f41a5df0@googlegroups.com
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  37e3d7ae-24d0-4a55-b603-d22d15d31fe7@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  d9ba0e92-882d-481b-a6f3-f553b116f82e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.16--1.57pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    +Top, 1.7 Days, GoogleG, 93.115.95.205,  Nov 14 {  9: 7pm, 2017 }: 4^(PST)  Wʈбȶ
      My $299 Samsung 850 EVO actually _beats_ four Samsung NVMe 960 Pros.

> > > > The TeraByte SSD was installed Nov, 2015.
> > > > $299 Samsung 850 EVO, SATA III, 3 Watts, superHigh IOPS, 
> > > > 1 gig RAM buffer and a 3 core CPU/controller.
> > > > "5 Years or 300 Terabytes Written" Warranty;
> > > > i.e. it can write 80 gigs per day, each day, for 10 years.
> > > 
> > > SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 MZ-V6E250B/IT   PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe1.2  3200MB/s  !!!!
> > 
> > EVO is Feebian pleb-tier shit. Get a Pro.
> 
> Can you explain?  Is there anything better than 3200MB/s with the Z370 chipset?

When it comes to 4 KiloByte Reads and Writes ( Random or Sequential ),
my $299 Samsung 850 EVO actually _beats_ four Samsung NVMe 960 Pros
on two "3200MB/s" buses.   Also, support for NVMe is nearly nonexistent.
And NVMe cards run hot, so they die years sooner.

" Most INSANE SSD RAID Setup – IT BOOTS! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzavO5a4OQ
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JeffRelf    Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22{7.25P.Seattle.2016}
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Free.Newsservers
  ╳ 28/35 T; 1.8 Days, X.ZIP⁻HTML, Blueworldhosting.COM,  Mar 22 {  7:25 P, 2016 }:57^(Seattle)  Vɟʐɵ
My 120 Gig thumb drive ( Mushkin Enhanced Ventura, $77 ).

A: My 120 Gig thumb drive ( Mushkin Enhanced Ventura, $77 ).
B: My 128 Gig thumb drive ( SanDisk Extreme Pro, $64 ).
C: My TeraByte SSD drive ( Samsung 850 EVO, $293 ).

Random Access Writing:  ( MegaBytes Per Second, Random Data )

   A:   B:   C:
   40   11  134    4 kilobyte Block Size, No Queue. 
  118   12  359    4 kilobyte Block Size, Queued 32 deep.
  123   27  510    ½ megabyte Block Size.

Random Access Reading:

   11   11   44    4 kilobyte Block Size, No Queue.
   61   11  391    4 kilobyte Block Size, Queued 32 deep.
  106  211  500    ½ megabyte Block Size.

Sequential Writing:

  130  214  520    1 megabyte Block Size.

Sequential Reading:

  218  265  521    1 megabyte Block Size.

4 gigaByte tests using CrystalDiskMark 3.0.4

My 16 gigs of 1.9 gigaHz RAM runs 20 GigaBytes Per Second.
No "PageFile.SYS", No "hiberFil.SYS" ( "powercfg -h off" ).

"Sync.BAT", to mirror "C:\__" (my home folder):

  CD  C:\__
  RoboCopy  .  A:\__   /R:0  /XD Tmp Del MKV *Microsoft *Recent *IE-Tmp  /NDL  /S  /B  /mir  /J  /NJH  /NJS  /NP  /XF RC.TXT  /UNILOG:RC.TXT
  RC.TXT
  exit
  REM  help  RoboCopy
  REM  /R:0 == No Retries.  /B = Backing up, override permissions.
  REM  /S = Ignore Empty Folders.  /NDL = No Directory Listing.
  REM  /NJH  /NJS = No Header/Footer.   /J = No Buffering.  /NP = Don't log %done.
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        Fabian  ouipei026o7@news4.newsguy.com
      Owl  jzkx14cuv993.a12euo@rooftop.invalid
    BranimirMaksimovic  ouj924$l9o$1@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.15--11.31pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1/1|55 Cool; 1.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Albasani.NET,  Nov 15 {  9:52pm, 2017 }: 5  WʉΓϳ
      :(){:|:&};:

> > > Post Your Fave GNU/Linux Commands
> > > growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=2
> > printf ""|sc
> ls -l

:(){:|:&};:
https://www.tecmint.com/10-most-dangerous-commands-you-should-never-execute-on-linux/
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--9.48pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  07a771f9-f793-4788-ae7a-f33e32faf488@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.39pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  34e7987c-eb3d-4f5e-9265-b83db1b0db17@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.03am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  88c5f1eb-75d7-4cd9-aea8-06b7826f20eb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--5.58pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/3|120 Top; 15.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 185.38.14.215,  Nov 14 {  5:18pm, 2017 }:14^(PST)  WʈϻE
      My i7-5775c is 77°F, near room temperature.

> > Compared to the $359 ( in stock ) i7-8700,
> > my $440 i7-5775c has a larger cache ( 128 MegaBytes Vs. 12 ).
> > My i7-5775c uses only the fan that came with the chip,
> > and it's nearly room temperature.
> 
> Well, that's interesting!

Yes, it's 77°F, near room temperature;
and it exceeds 4 GigaHz, when required.

Most of the 3.5 Watt draw is for the IO;
a.k.a. the "UnCore" or "system agent".
The core itself draws less than a Watt.

The 4k iGPU ( Iris Pro 6200 Graphics ) usually draws Zero Watts.
My 16 gigs of 1.9 GigaHz DRAM cards are cold to the touch;
they're drawing 2.6 Watts.

> Is there any MB with at least 8 SATA sockets, 
> on board 32G M2 SSD which I could use for this Broadwell chip?  

I don't know, my ASUS GRYPHON Z97 has 6 x SATA III,
6 GigaBitsPerSecond.

The TeraByte SSD was installed Nov, 2015.
$299 Samsung 850 EVO, SATA III, 3 Watts, superHigh IOPS, 
1 gig RAM buffer and a 3 core CPU/controller.
"5 Years or 300 Terabytes Written" Warranty;
i.e. it can write 80 gigs per day, each day, for 10 years.

Fanless PowerSupply; no spinners.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--9.48pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  07a771f9-f793-4788-ae7a-f33e32faf488@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.39pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  34e7987c-eb3d-4f5e-9265-b83db1b0db17@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.03am.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  p18m0d586kh9foav5367i3a97qp8birn7l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.15pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/3|307 Mad; 3.1 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov 14 {  8:57am, 2017 }: 3^(-5)  WʈʩΘ
      _Updated_ Software is vital too ( as it's constantly improving ).

> > The Iris Pro 6200 Graphics iGPU on my i7-5775c plays 4k videos, 
> > 60 fps, x264 and x265, just fine, "hardware accelerated".
> > 128 MegaByte 1.8 GigaHz eDRAM, Crystal Well L4 cache on chip.
> 
> What exactly do you do with your computer which requires such
> processing power, Jeff Relf of Seattle ?

4k 60 fps videos, RandomSeek, would be taxing on a lesser CPU/iGPU.
_Updated_ Software is vital too ( as it's constantly improving ).

  I tell ZoomPlayer Max 14 to let Windows 10 decide how to render it;
  LAV ( instead of Win10 ) doesn't work as well, but it's usable.

  Every day, YouTube has nice new 4K videos;
  thanks to the LATEST "4k Video Downloader" app, 
  they all have properly timed, .MKV embedded ( ASS ) subtitles.
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              JohnGohde  240e3b82-2143-43ff-a2e4-c811068acfc5@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  20425310-0e03-4571-9e7e-6ced7e50d3cd@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--9.48pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  07a771f9-f793-4788-ae7a-f33e32faf488@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.39pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  34e7987c-eb3d-4f5e-9265-b83db1b0db17@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--8.03am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/3|116 Top; 8 Hours, GoogleG, 46.17.97.112,  Nov 13 { 11:45pm, 2017 }:41^(PST)  WʈɅφ
      My $440 i7-5775c has a larger cache ( 128 MegaBytes Vs. 12 ).

> But perhaps the iGPU is better on i7?  Should I spend the money?  

No, it's the I/O, the OnChip cache.
Compared to the $359 ( in stock ) i7-8700,
my $440 i7-5775c has a larger cache ( 128 MegaBytes Vs. 12 ).

> Anyway only the gammers overclockable 95W i7-8700K 
> is available at this moment...  I'm gonna get the 65W.

My i7-5775c uses only the fan that came with the chip,
and it's nearly room temperature.
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              BranimirMaksimovic  ouafpe$7s1$3@news.albasani.net
            TakuyaSaitoh  29c39db0-45cd-4438-92d2-33e5ee697b43@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  240e3b82-2143-43ff-a2e4-c811068acfc5@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  20425310-0e03-4571-9e7e-6ced7e50d3cd@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--9.48pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  07a771f9-f793-4788-ae7a-f33e32faf488@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.39pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|113 Top; 22.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 77.247.181.165,  Nov 13 {  9:59pm, 2017 }:35^(PST)  Wʈxო
      UHD Graphics 630.

> > 128 MegaByte 1.8 GigaHz eDRAM, Crystal Well L4 cache on chip.
> 
> i7-5775c iGPU can do 4k at 60Hz??

60 fps, yes.

> Are yo using the D-port?

DisplayPort.  4k, 40 inches, curved, mounted on an ExtraLong arm;
so it's _extremely_ adjustable.  It's at arm's length, most of the time.
I clamped on 3/4 inch plywood, top and botton, to my night stand
( and added a 20 lb counter weight ).

> Even the newest i7-8700 or i5-8400 iGPU cannot do more than 32Hz at 4k 
> so I'm considering getting at least Nvidia 1050 to have good frame rates....

Not true; the i7-8700's stats are:

  Max Resolution (DisplayPort): 4096 x 2304 @ 60 Hz 
  DirectX 12 
  Quick Sync Video
  Graphics Video Memory:  64 GigaBytes
  Execution Units:  24
  UHD Graphics 630
  12 MegaByte Cache, up to 4.60 GHz  ( i7-5775c has 128 MegaBytes )

https://ark.intel.com/products/126686/Intel-Core-i7-8700-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4_60-GHz
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            TakuyaSaitoh  1a72de61-2171-4d02-983e-deb74752890c@googlegroups.com
          BranimirMaksimovic  ouafpe$7s1$3@news.albasani.net
        TakuyaSaitoh  29c39db0-45cd-4438-92d2-33e5ee697b43@googlegroups.com
      JohnGohde  240e3b82-2143-43ff-a2e4-c811068acfc5@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  20425310-0e03-4571-9e7e-6ced7e50d3cd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--9.48pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|112 Top; 35.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 62.210.129.246,  Nov 13 {  8:46pm, 2017 }:42^(PST)  WʈlШ
      The "4k Video Downloader" app.

The Iris Pro 6200 Graphics iGPU on my i7-5775c plays 4k videos, 
60 fps, x264 and x265, just fine, "hardware accelerated".
128 MegaByte 1.8 GigaHz eDRAM, Crystal Well L4 cache on chip.

Every day, YouTube has nice new 4K videos;
thanks to the "4k Video Downloader" app, 
they all have properly timed, .MKV embedded ( ASS ) subtitles.

I tell ZoomPlayer Max 14 to let Windows 10 decide how to render it;
LAV ( instead of Win10 ) doesn't work as well, but it's usable.

I don't like 3d games, but "Grand Theft Auto" in 4k works fine,
despite me having NO graphics card ( no eGPU ).
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        alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20171113Ku7DyCu49j@VyMH
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.47am.Seattle.2017
    MrAA  a6837799-7292-4bd1-8dd8-eef923346e93@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--2.17pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|142 Top; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Nov 13 {   :15pm, 2017 }:27^(PST)  Wʇაθ
      Lord Kelvin ( William Thomson ).

Lord Kelvin ( William Thomson ) never said:
" Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. "
Nor did he say:
" There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. "
See:
  https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/William_Thomson

He did say:

  _ To live among friends is the primary essential of happiness.

  _ Tesla has contributed more to electrical science 
    than any man up to his time [ 1896 ].
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    alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20171113Ku7DyCu49j@VyMH
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.13--10.47am.Seattle.2017
  ➤Sci.Physics, ➤Soc.Culture.Indian, ➤Alt.Fan.Jai-Maharaj, ➤Sci.Med, Sci.Energy, Sci.Environment, Alt.Philosophy, Soc.Culture.Usa, Alt.Politics
    ╱ 1/1|12 Cool; 6 Minutes, Xpress, Alt.NET,  Nov 13 { 10:19am, 2017 }:52  Wʇнɰ
      We're programmed by nature to consume.

> " The Dark Side of Science " By Robert Arvay, American Thinker, Nov, 2017
>   Do we have inherent value ? Or are we just another species of animal?

We're programmed by nature to consume.
The only difference between us and the sun, is how/what we consume.
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              BenJacoby  5a03cce6$0$15855$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.17pm.Seattle.2017
          .  1af57266-19ea-4613-a518-c0d8f1bf4a07@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--8.36am.Seattle.2017
      BenJacoby  5a04f4ee$0$34674$b1db1813$8546dec9@news.astraweb.com
    MarkFergerson  f9cae3c1-fbb5-4595-9e01-5bf632a85498@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--8.59pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|3 Top; 51.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 216.227.105.130,  Nov 10 {  7:37pm, 2017 }:13^(PST)  Wʆaȿ
      Shooting the messenger.

I'm telling you ( Mark Fergerson ) what women think,
in their own words, and you're shooting the messenger,
labelling me a "male feminist", a "deadbeat", and a comedian.

Back in 1988, Utah, my ex was tired of me not wanting more kids
( we had two at the time, a boy and a girl, 5 and 4 );
so she divorced me to marry the guy who'd give her 4 more.

After collecting about 20 grand in child support, 1988, Utah,
she said she wouldn't ask for more;
and she's doing quite well, in her ritzy neighborhood.

> > > "Man" asks woman:  Does size matter ?
> > > Woman:  Size of what ? !
> > > Man:  My dick, of course.
> > > Woman:  No, that's _your_ problem, not mine.
> > >         (Rent) Money is my biggest issue, not sex.
> > > 
> > > Man:  You don't like sex ?
> > > Woman:  No, I like it, but only with those ( men or women )
> > >         with a nice countenance, a lovely face,
> > >         and pleasant expressions.
> > > 
> > > Man:  Sure, but does size matter ?
> > > Woman:  Size of what ? !
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              TakuyaSaitoh  25ee449c-46bb-4f0d-bbb0-517317f708fb@googlegroups.com
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  ed855a69-cd0f-4053-8d27-7f43dda3de68@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--9.30am.Seattle.2017
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  66239121-1cc0-4019-af05-4a862c5c72e1@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--11.03am.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  a38c6889-13f3-492a-94ac-f9e02e29ae66@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--0.47pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|147 Cool; 27.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Nov 10 {   :11pm, 2017 }: 6^(PST)  Wʅяр
      Does your mom pay "your" women too ?

> Oops, meant to say I haven't paid rent since then.

Who paid for it then, your mom ? 

> I'm still a troglodyte, though. 

Does your mom pay "your" women too ?
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          TakuyaSaitoh  25ee449c-46bb-4f0d-bbb0-517317f708fb@googlegroups.com
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  ed855a69-cd0f-4053-8d27-7f43dda3de68@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--9.30am.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  66239121-1cc0-4019-af05-4a862c5c72e1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--11.03am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|146 Cool; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Nov 10 {  9:37am, 2017 }:56^(PST)  Wʅжɴ
      Prostitutes are more virtual than real.

> I have paid rent since my early 20s.

Me too, as a result of my hard work ( no gifts ).

> I get all the pussy I want, 

And how often is that, pray tell ?

> ( real, not rubber like Jeff the cave man )

Who are these "real" women, pray tell ?
Note: Prostitutes are more virtual than real.

> I want Taka to get some too.
> He lives in a country filled with fine ass
> but hes too busy trying to marry a Pokemon game. 

Why do you think his women are less real than yours ?
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      TakuyaSaitoh  25ee449c-46bb-4f0d-bbb0-517317f708fb@googlegroups.com
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  ed855a69-cd0f-4053-8d27-7f43dda3de68@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--9.30am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|144 Cool; 13.7 Minutes, GoogleG,  Nov 10 {  8:59am, 2017 }:59^(PST)  WʅЯჵ
      Women have no problem getting sex, anytime, anywhere.

> I should get off Usenet and go fuck some big tittied ho; 
> I'm thirsty for pussy, too asexual. 

Women have no problem getting sex, anytime, anywhere.
All they have to do is say the word, and _BAM_ it's done.

They don't fucking care if your dick gets big or not;
it's NOT their problem, not at all -- it's YOUR problem.

When a woman needs (rent) money, and she can't hold down
a more respectable job/marriage, she sells "it" ( her charms );
i.e. prostitution is her LeastBad option.
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    TakuyaSaitoh  25ee449c-46bb-4f0d-bbb0-517317f708fb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.10--9.09am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|98 Top; 12.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 64.137.230.14,  Nov 10 {  8:46am, 2017 }:58^(PST)  WʅЭи
      When/Where is this premise useful ?

> Math doesn't lie.

  Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.
  Communism:     "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  Capitalism:    "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  Christianity:  "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  All theories:  "wrong" but occasionally useful.

> Why no one has gone back to the moon for 45 years?
> They lost the ability to fake the landings without being discovered,
> so they stopped trying.

When/Where is this premise of yours, above, useful to you ?
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              MichaelGlasser  D6290D70.BC96F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
            Anonymous│anonymous@hoi-polloi_  9fda24b17a47b86296bf18ae19c7ca06@foto.nl1.torservers.net
          AndrzejMatuch  6JYMB.721$Vy2.212@fx07.iad
        MichaelGlasser  D629DFA7.BCA03%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
      SteveCarroll  ac1a1ee7-a310-4a13-9bab-86d1a092575d@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  u_4NB.206$bV.161@fx28.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.22pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|280 Mad; 20.3 Minutes, Pan, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Nov  9 {  2:52pm, 2017 }:10  Wʅɬϸ
      Insulting each other.

Basically, Michael Glasser, Steve Carroll and Andrzej Matuch
are just insulting each other ( i.e. trolling ).
The thinner your skin, the better your trolling skills.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a03bb79$0$46118$b1db1813$be7d459e@news.astraweb.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.53pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a03cce6$0$15855$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.17pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a04cf6d$0$60774$b1db1813$d06edd96@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.15pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|16 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov  9 {  1:58pm, 2017 }: 5^(-5)  Wʅɣϳ
      Do you live in a basement ?

Do you live in a basement, Ben Jacoby ?
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    alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20171105Le9ViFu68k@RyTL
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--11.36am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Soc.Culture.Indian
    ╱ 1/4|11 Cool; 3.7 Days, Xpress, Alt.NET,  Nov  5 {  6:31pm, 2017 }:54  WʂЗɲ
      No TRUE event horizon exists.

No TRUE event horizon exists because, if it could, 
it'd have ZERO entropy and INFINITE "eXergy"
( energy that can do physical work ).

As measured by us, here on earth,
one is frozen/static at an IDEAL event horizon
because one is moving in a different dimension 
from the one that defines the (null) frequency.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--10.42am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.

  Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.
  Communism:     "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  Capitalism:    "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  Christianity:  "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  All theories:  "wrong" but occasionally useful.

  Empirical evidence is best; however,
  religion is (too often) the LeastBad option.
  And it's our fault, for not providing better options.

  We suffer many such "LeastBad", horrible options.
  For example, drug addiction makes girls unemployable;
  so prostitution becomes the LeastBad option.
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              JohnSefton  5fa310d3-599c-406a-97dd-f30c2a5e7a04@googlegroups.com
            MichaelMoroney  otn5ri$gs9$1@pcls7.std.com
          JohnSefton  6d8bc86d-b7c5-4834-a590-4b637a4713ca@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  otn95n$vev$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  b53f5381-1e00-41cf-82df-44033fa18ac5@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  otnre0$77e$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--10.32am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3/5|95 Cool; 3.9 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Nov  5 {   :13pm, 2017 }:52  Wʂγɰ
      Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.

> it DOESNT MATTER how many things your idea explains that the current
> model doesn’t. As soon as it has a key prediction wrong — like yours has —
> it’s wrong. 

Compared to usefulness, "truthiness" doesn't matter.
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              MichaelMoroney  ot9s3t$hcu$1@pcls7.std.com
            JohnSefton  7623d9d4-a277-42f9-bd34-c73be23fc980@googlegroups.com
          JohnSefton  38ec069f-0136-4f78-abaa-6b143fff78df@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  73556dd3-fb78-4c57-bd61-6d1824cbebaa@googlegroups.com
      JamesMcGinn  7286144d-c653-40d0-9298-c1f6224f5d73@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  b9076e6c-7355-4ee5-93dd-8f264b27f5d6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--9.39am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 10/21|169 Top; 2.9 Days, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Nov  6 { 11:43am, 2017 }:36^(PST)  WʃɅɠ
      James McGinn's motto:  Never Measure.

> > Science is a human construct conducted by humans,
> > a money making endeavor dictated by hierarchical social structures.
> > Much of it has been dumbed down to appeal to you simpletons.

James McGinn's motto:  Never Measure.
Kooks need facts like vampires need a tan.

  Christianity is  "wrong" but occasionally useful.
  All theories are "wrong" but occasionally useful.

  Empirical evidence is best; however,
  religion is (too often) the LeastBad option.
  And it's our fault, for not providing better options.

  We suffer many such "LeastBad", horrible options.
  For example, drug addiction makes girls unemployable;
  so prostitution becomes the LeastBad option.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
            BenJacoby  5a03bb79$0$46118$b1db1813$be7d459e@news.astraweb.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.53pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a03cce6$0$15855$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.17pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  1af57266-19ea-4613-a518-c0d8f1bf4a07@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--8.36am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|139 Cool; 11 Hours, GoogleG,  Nov  8 {  8:46pm, 2017 }: 9^(PST)  WʄЭϷ
      Does size matter ?

> > Lauren, 29, says:
> > 
> >   My ex-boyfriend was small, like a thumb after being jammed in a car door.
> >   Maybe 3 and a half inches.  Despite that, I was sexually satisfied.
> >   It worked and I never complained.  It was awkward whenever 'small dick'
> >   jokes would come up or be heard, though.
> > 
> >      https://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/43_love_secrets.html
> 
> The things women tell me are bullshit.
> They're disgusted by me and want nothing more than
> to end the conversation as soon as possible.

"Man" asks woman:  Does size matter ?
Woman:  Size of what ? !
Man:  My dick, of course.
Woman:  No, that's _your_ problem, not mine.
        (Rent) Money is my biggest issue, not sex.

Man:  You don't like sex ?
Woman:  No, I like it, but only with those ( men or women )
        with a nice countenance, a lovely face,
        and pleasant expressions.

Man:  Sure, but does size matter ?
Woman:  Size of what ? !
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              TakuyaSaitoh  64a41ccb-d797-4785-b5d4-0f8c05a78538@googlegroups.com
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4d5c4f10-66d9-4fe6-8b6f-1a6e365f0519@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a03bb79$0$46118$b1db1813$be7d459e@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.53pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a03cce6$0$15855$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.17pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|15 Dropped; 12.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov  8 {  7:31pm, 2017 }:13^(-5)  WʄСȿ
      Size is of NO importance when compared with technique.

> > You ( BenJacoby and Me_Sham ) are hilariously ignorant.
> > Size is of NO importance when compared with technique.
> 
> So to "prove" how much Rolf [sic] knows about women, 
> he go [sic] on line [sic] to some Internet wisdom site
> to prove how much HE Knows about sex ? 
>    [ women are REALLY turned on by a man with the proper 
>      mastery of spelling and grammar ]

No, to prove how little _you_ know, that's all.
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              TakuyaSaitoh  64a41ccb-d797-4785-b5d4-0f8c05a78538@googlegroups.com
            Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4d5c4f10-66d9-4fe6-8b6f-1a6e365f0519@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
        BenJacoby  5a03bb79$0$46118$b1db1813$be7d459e@news.astraweb.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.53pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  c3c9db81-0ad8-46ee-95ab-1a6ff945bd7b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--7.09pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|137 Cool; 5.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Nov  8 {  6:54pm, 2017 }:40^(PST)  WʄЛe
      (Rent) Money is the biggest issue, not sex.

> > Joy, 27, says: length is less important than girth.
> 
> I'm a clueless creep.  What do they say about you ?

Nothing, I'm not fucking anyone.

I talk to lots of people, all ages/types, all the time,
and, mostly, (rent) money is the biggest issue, not sex.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.40am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  74cbe5c8-1feb-47a9-9a07-50d32294d280@googlegroups.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  64a41ccb-d797-4785-b5d4-0f8c05a78538@googlegroups.com
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4d5c4f10-66d9-4fe6-8b6f-1a6e365f0519@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
    BenJacoby  5a03bb79$0$46118$b1db1813$be7d459e@news.astraweb.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.53pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|13 Dropped; 6.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Astraweb.COM,  Nov  8 {  6:20pm, 2017 }:41^(-5)  WʄЕʡ
      Size is of NO importance when compared with technique.

> > Women prefer FAT dicks; i.e. men hung like a tuna can.
> 
> Says our wanker basement social misfit "expert".

You ( BenJacoby and Me_Sham ) are hilariously ignorant.
First off:

  The most attractive thing about anyone, man or woman, is their face; 
  i.e. the facial expressions one gets from having lived a good life.

Holly, 26, says:

  The important thing for my enjoyment is more what they do
  with their hands and mouth, rather than the penis

Cynthia, 32, says:

  Size is of NO importance when compared with technique. 
  If anything, I've found that the SmallerEndowed guys are often
  — not always, but often — the better lovers. 

Lauren, 29, says:

  My ex-boyfriend was small, like a thumb after being jammed in a car door.
  Maybe 3 and a half inches.  Despite that, I was sexually satisfied.
  It worked and I never complained.  It was awkward whenever 'small dick' jokes
  would come up or be heard, though.  We would pretend not to hear them.

Christina, 36, says:

  anything over 8 inches just hurts, 
  and you can't fuck me the way I want to be fucked

Aliza, 28, says:

  I can't handle them if they're too big.
  I'm fragile and it definitely is way more painful
  than pleasurable if a guy is huge.

Joy, 27, says:

  length is less important than girth.

https://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/43_love_secrets.html
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              JohnGohde  b9995e02-aa31-4664-8809-5ae8a65b5209@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  edfba26f-6e54-408b-8702-0946ddd49abf@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  ea97c811-6e3b-4349-a97a-607c4a557b45@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  a3e5ea74-9f37-4b9d-a874-4c1d2963a645@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.50am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  192d4a7b-7096-487c-9c52-e6db7bbeaf15@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.15pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|87 Top; 8 Minutes, GoogleG, 155.4.230.97,  Nov  8 {  4:59pm, 2017 }: 2^(PST)  WʄϷм
      Mormonism was designed to populate the wild west.

> What's the Mormon philosophy about the life after death BTW?

" As man is, God once was.  As God is, man may become. ", they say.
www.LDSchurch.JP/
www.LDS.ORG/manual/teachings-of-presidents-of-the-church-lorenzo-snow/chapter-5-the-grand-destiny-of-the-faithful

Mormonism was designed to populate the wild west.
Back then, 10 wives and 100 kids made sense.  Not today.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.40am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  74cbe5c8-1feb-47a9-9a07-50d32294d280@googlegroups.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  64a41ccb-d797-4785-b5d4-0f8c05a78538@googlegroups.com
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4d5c4f10-66d9-4fe6-8b6f-1a6e365f0519@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  9a5bdece-f838-48ab-b246-257fc421f9d3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.05pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    +-, 9.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Nov  8 {  4:49pm, 2017 }:24^(PST)  Wʄ϶ɔ
      The most attractive thing about anyone, man or woman, is their face.

> I wouldn't know what women want.
> I'm a pathetic loner

The most attractive thing about anyone, man or woman, is their face; 
i.e. the facial expressions one gets from having lived a good life.
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  601f0277-32bd-46d7-a786-6ef7439bacd3@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  a7c6c8ee-3546-4fd9-88ac-b074b970a5f0@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.40am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  74cbe5c8-1feb-47a9-9a07-50d32294d280@googlegroups.com
      TakuyaSaitoh  64a41ccb-d797-4785-b5d4-0f8c05a78538@googlegroups.com
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  4d5c4f10-66d9-4fe6-8b6f-1a6e365f0519@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--4.35pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|134 Cool; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Nov  8 {  3: 7pm, 2017 }:35^(PST)  Wʄϗɟ
      Hung like a tuna can.

> Asian dicks aren't big enough to wave. 

Your (Me_Sham's) ignorance is telling.
Long dicks are only good for one thing: rape.

Long dicks are painful, women don't want it;
if it's too long, they'll simply refuse.

No, they prefer FAT dicks; i.e. men hung like a tuna can.
Some women stick their fingers in there, 
along side the dick, to make it wider.
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          JohnGohde  b9995e02-aa31-4664-8809-5ae8a65b5209@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  edfba26f-6e54-408b-8702-0946ddd49abf@googlegroups.com
      JohnGohde  ea97c811-6e3b-4349-a97a-607c4a557b45@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  a3e5ea74-9f37-4b9d-a874-4c1d2963a645@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.50am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|80 Top; 28.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.134.120,  Nov  8 {  7:47am, 2017 }:39^(PST)  Wʄʝს
      Hunter S. Thompson's Suicide Note.

> How are the shrimps at Jap. buffet lately?

I'll bet you 20 bucks it's run by Koreans, not Nipponese.
In Seattle, damn few "Japanese" restaurants are run by Nips.

P.S. Don't prod John Gohde on to suicide, Japanese style.
Everyone feels a deep need to feel wanted,
no matter how useless we (know we) are.

Hunter S. Thompson's Suicide Note:

  No More Games.  No More Bombs.
  No More Walking.  No More Fun.  No More Swimming.  

  67.  That is 17 years past 50. 
  17 more than I needed or wanted.  Boring.

  I am always bitchy.  No Fun – for anybody.

  67.  You are getting Greedy.

  Act your (old) age.  Relax – This won't hurt.  
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          JohnGohde  f3b06ec8-dd8a-4d95-a630-fe34da8994cd@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  5cb029bc-edb7-471d-a1d5-a0ea5b58e81a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--7.10am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  5392d48e-fd7e-4c78-9d0e-981b411534e8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--8.31am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|80 Top; 31.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.134.120,  Nov  8 {  7:44am, 2017 }:53^(PST)  Wʄʝʭ
      They live and die like flies, mere bugs.

> > You were programmed by nature to produce 10 kids,
> > so _one_ of them might survive.
> > But your programming is NOT, NOT, NOT appropriate for today's world.
> 
> We are doomed and the Islam will prevail....  
> Muzzies don't have any problems with polygamy, 
> they can impregnate their daughters and fuck goats

UnLike you, they (mostly) live in the stone age;
they live and die like flies, mere bugs.
If that's "living", let them have it, I say.
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      JohnGohde  f3b06ec8-dd8a-4d95-a630-fe34da8994cd@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  5cb029bc-edb7-471d-a1d5-a0ea5b58e81a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--7.10am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3/4|79 Top; 10.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 185.163.1.11,  Nov  8 {  6: 4am, 2017 }:24^(PST)  WʄʌЖ
      Ric Flair, now 68, masturbated twice a day.

> > Ric Flair had 15 drinks a day, slept with 10,000 women,
> 
> How many kids has he procreated?  
> That's what counts on an evolutionary scale....

You were programmed by nature to produce 10 kids,
so _one_ of them might survive.

But your programming is NOT, NOT, NOT appropriate for today's world.

Quoting Fox and NY Daily News:

  The former WWE star said he masturbated twice a day [...]
  monogamy made him "miserable" [...]

  Flair, 68, survived a death scare in August after 
  suffering from "multiple organ problems."  [...]    
  doctors gave him a 20 percent chance to live.
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              MichaelGlasser  D6266759.BC732%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
            Owl  azc8020ab.ahui@rooftop.invalid
          MichaelGlasser  D626732F.BC73D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
        Owl  99a9ba.ajguj1@rooftop.invalid
      MichaelGlasser  D626837C.BC749%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
    Owl  azb003a.bau4uio3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.41am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5/5|142 Mad; 9.6 Hours, tin➤Linux, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Nov  6 {  8:54pm, 2017 }:14  WʃʩE
      Like Mr. Owl's "God", he's lawless, random.

You ( Owl ) replied ( to Michael Glasser ):
> > who created this deity you imagine exists?
> 
> God is not subject to cause and effect
> God *created* the Universe and its laws.
> He is not governed by it.  

Like your "God", you're lawless, random.

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...

  Now add a little "gravity&eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ), 
  so it all fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Life consumes gravity&eXergy, same as the sun.
  Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not gravity&eXergy.

  Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
  the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and it accelerates/SpeedsUp as gravity&eXergy dies off.
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              .  d3c5ec4a-c37f-4dab-aabf-044689e2ee0f@googlegroups.com
            .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.28--6.35pm.Seattle.2017
          .  6074b29b-4170-4a19-9c7b-94bd32e76f6d@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  1b235438-5028-4007-8fd1-27234f362b87@googlegroups.com
      Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  601f0277-32bd-46d7-a786-6ef7439bacd3@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  a7c6c8ee-3546-4fd9-88ac-b074b970a5f0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--6.40am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|74 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 72.210.252.137,  Nov  7 {  5: 1am, 2017 }:18^(PST)  WʃϸɌ
      North Korea and Cuba and just huge jails, cheap labor.

North Korea and Cuba are just huge jails, cheap labor.
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              mitchrae3323@gmail_com  d7b3a0d2-ab34-4e13-9623-3a9f75eead21@googlegroups.com
            poraty149@gmail_com  c0601d89-5115-415d-97f8-834fe3530454@googlegroups.com
          poraty149@gmail_com  95f38fb6-bea9-4099-b77b-bc625ac6d690@googlegroups.com
        JohnSefton  d0df2cf6-e3a6-4a48-8920-8178f690556a@googlegroups.com
      pnalsing@gmail_com  ac7d949c-db25-470e-a6e9-f2e8fa0aa8a9@googlegroups.com
    Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  othq85$ujv$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--0.42pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/5|216 Mad; 5.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Nov  3 {  6:16am, 2017 }:42^(-5)  WʁCШ
      John Sefton's motto is:  Never Measure.

John Sefton's motto is:  Never Measure.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--7.46am.Seattle.2017
    JohnGohde  1192554e-8202-4160-a1c8-719e4fd951cb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--8.30am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|179 Dropped; 32.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.110.191.228,  Nov  3 {  7:54am, 2017 }:56^(PDT)  WʁTu
      We're wiping snow off cars today, here in Seattle.

> > Due to climate and geography, the typical white person,
> 
> Richmond could hit 80 degrees F, today. 

We're wiping snow off cars today, here in Seattle.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.3--7.46am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Climate and Geography.

  Due to climate and geography, the typical white person,
  compared to the darker skinned, has more money because he has
  more land and a longer history of "saving up for a rainy day";
  e.g. Switzerland, Norway, IceLand, Russia and Canada, NOT India.
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    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--10.36am.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--2.23pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 54/54 Top; 3.4 Hours, X.HTM⁻HTML, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Oct 31 { 10:36am, 2017 }:44^(Seattle)  Wɿui
      The guy doing the grabbing, Sam Nickel, is famous.

Re: " 1000 Boobs in Russia ":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRM2C28kWHs

  The guy doing the grabbing, Sam Nickel, is famous;
  Vladimir Putin asked to shake his hand.

  All the women gave consent; 1 in 7 said yes.
  At one event ( Red Bull FlugTag ), 117 women agreed.
  Big events, like that, worked best.

  Some of the girls gave him a slap ( or a bite ).
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--10.36am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      In America, this guy would be tortured to death.

In America, this guy would be tortured to death.
" 1000 Boobs in Russia ":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRM2C28kWHs
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              TakuyaSaitoh  2fe74c08-a431-4369-8da9-fcebf0ae3b62@googlegroups.com
            JohnGohde  60dc9707-a29b-4d19-b423-9b444c228655@googlegroups.com
          TakuyaSaitoh  ea7743c1-3d00-4d49-8e38-d7a87d555a39@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--6.20am.Seattle.2017
      TakuyaSaitoh  66fb93f3-3a5c-4f6a-afb1-22b59c98e736@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  oa_JB.33302$G72.11776@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--6.02am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|171 Mad; 1.3 Minutes, Pan, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 31 {  5:39am, 2017 }:48  Wɿ6ϓ
      Lowest sumo lifespan ( years ): 22; average: 64; oldest: 91.

Quoting:

  The life expectancy of a sumo wrestler is 63.6 years, 
  according to the best answer at this Japanese Q&A site: 
  https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1211695392 

  Of the 100 wrestlers with experience in makuuchi [ the top division ]
  who died between 1980 and 2002, the average age at death was 63.6.
  The youngest was 22 and the oldest was 91.     

  The average life expectancy for all Japanese men in 
  2002 was 78.07, so the sumo wrestlers' lifespan was 
  about 15 years shorter than the general population.  

  https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-life-expectancy-of-a-sumo-wrestler
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    The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  54D7D8B6.20A9@ix.netcom.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--5.33am.Seattle.2017
  Rec.Arts.SF.Written, Alt.Astronomy, Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Sci.Math
    -Dropped, 2.7 Years, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Θ, 23.241.144.149,  Feb  8 {  2:44pm, 2015 }:22^(-8)  UΘɫʎ
      Our _known_ Universe is a sphere, with us at the center.

3 years ago, Starmaker asked:
> Where is the center of the universe?

Our _known_ Universe is a sphere, with us at the center;
the (subjective) edge is "the cosmological horizon",
46 billion light years away, 13.8 billion years ago.

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...

  Now add a little "gravity&eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ), 
  so it all fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Life consumes gravity&eXergy, same as the sun.
  Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not gravity&eXergy.

  Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
  the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and it accelerates/SpeedsUp as gravity&eXergy dies off.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.35am.Seattle.2017
            HughHuntzinger  f4e61a1e-64a8-457f-801e-51a08c7ff960@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--6.12am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  7e863b60-fd88-4bc8-b306-48b4aebc7555@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--8.37am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  8a8eca3d-463f-4cf0-9cb6-a4e2698f93cf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--0.34pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|67 Top; 50.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Oct 30 {  9:10am, 2017 }:40^(PDT)  WɾʡЦ
      The state will lower property taxes, and landlords will lower rents.

Hugh Huntzinger wrote:
> the repeal of DACA [...] is downright shameful.

I'm sure ( ha ha ) the savings ( fewer students ) will be passed on to me;
the state will lower property taxes, and landlords will lower rents.

Those with decent savings and good income, like Steve Carroll,
could move to Canada, where this is less of a problem.

The median home value in Seattle is $695,600.
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              SteveCarroll  3910ec3c-42ef-4b71-a20a-c4acfb731767@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  b1ab3dc7-c0ec-4590-8bb0-6e7ebe322f07@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.35am.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  f4e61a1e-64a8-457f-801e-51a08c7ff960@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--6.12am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  7e863b60-fd88-4bc8-b306-48b4aebc7555@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--8.37am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|66 Top; 3.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Oct 30 {  7:20am, 2017 }: 6^(PDT)  Wɾʏɾ
      Hugh Huntzinger's version/vision of Marxism.

You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) replied ( to me );
> > I think you're "AltCommunist".
> 
> WTF is an "AltCommunist"?

Your version/vision of Marxism.

> > Which country is LeastBad, and why ?
> > You refuse to answer the question.
> 
> How would answering it advance this conversation?  

It doesn't, I'm talking to _you_.

> > Which country is LeastBad, and why ?
> 
> Don't really know which to choose  [ ... Big Snip ... ]
> I don't really know enough by my own standards
> to make a clear declaration... -hh

Right, you can't say if America is better or worse than
Switzerland, IceLand, Norway, Canada, India or China.

P.S. Yesterday's Texans VS Seahawks was SuperFast;
     one "Hail Mary" after another, again and again.

     The last 90 seconds of the game was mind blowing.
     Evenly matched, but the Texans' rookie quartback,
     Deshaun Watson, was a tad too sloppy.
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              JohnGohde  d6386ead-f93b-4ca8-bf06-ce2f8aadbc43@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  220a304c-1f0b-4685-bca6-8807897ed082@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  ca9c5023-be69-4482-b054-83800230acda@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  2fe74c08-a431-4369-8da9-fcebf0ae3b62@googlegroups.com
      JohnGohde  60dc9707-a29b-4d19-b423-9b444c228655@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  ea7743c1-3d00-4d49-8e38-d7a87d555a39@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--6.20am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|60 Top; 44.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 138.68.186.185,  Oct 30 {  5:28am, 2017 }:28^(PDT)  WɾɼК
      Short, Skinny Japanese women live the longest.

Takuya Saitoh replied ( to John Gohde ):
> > Both of the videos that Moi posted were presented by 
> > scientists highly credentialed in the vitamin D research field.
> > [I'm] so pathetic that one wonders how [I] manage to breathe.
> 
> Your "scientists" are dying from cancer at young age. 
> How could that be?

Short, Skinny Japanese women live the longest.
Sumo wrestlers, not so much.
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              Owl  szv9379ag.3pa@rooftop.invalid
            HughHuntzinger  0a179afb-c54f-47af-98a5-ac1412bbdca9@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  3910ec3c-42ef-4b71-a20a-c4acfb731767@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  b1ab3dc7-c0ec-4590-8bb0-6e7ebe322f07@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.35am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  f4e61a1e-64a8-457f-801e-51a08c7ff960@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--6.12am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1/3|65 Top; 13.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Oct 30 {  5:51am, 2017 }:51^(PDT)  Wɾʀϗ
      Which country is LeastBad, and why ?

> > Colder places have a lower population density, hence: a higher GDP per capita;
> > e.g. Switzerland ( home of the Huntzingers ) is a cold, prosperous country.
> > 
> > Again ( 4+ days later ), I ask you ( Hugh Huntzinger ):
> > 
> >   What country best matches your "socialist" ideals ?
> >   Norway, Iceland, India, China ?
> 
> "Socialist", Jeff?  Is that what you conclude from me merely 
> identifying that there's both just and unjust laws?  

No, from _other discussions, I think you're "AltCommunist".
You refuse to answer the question.
Which country is LeastBad, and why ?
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              SteveCarroll  af2c6311-76ab-48d2-afe6-632ed7265776@googlegroups.com
            Owl  szv9379ag.3pa@rooftop.invalid
          HughHuntzinger  0a179afb-c54f-47af-98a5-ac1412bbdca9@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  3910ec3c-42ef-4b71-a20a-c4acfb731767@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  b1ab3dc7-c0ec-4590-8bb0-6e7ebe322f07@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  c8276422-4af8-439d-9305-6b0181040183@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--3.53am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/3|84 Cool; 7.2 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Oct 29 {  7:25pm, 2017 }:11^(PDT)  WɾOȽ
      Harassing Bigfoot is a felony punishable by a fine and/or imprisonment.

Steve Carroll replied ( to Hugh Huntzinger ):
> > > There's no perfect solution to [ illegal aliens ], right?
> > 
> > Oh, are you only _now_ finally coming to that realization??  /S  
> 
> Said the guy who seems to think picking and choosing what laws
> to follow is somehow 'working'. /S

In Washington state, it's (notionally) illegal to buy meat on a Sunday.
Harassing Bigfoot is a felony punishable by a fine and/or imprisonment.

  Too often, drug addiction makes girls unemployable;
  so prostitution becomes the LeastBad option.
  And it's our fault, for not giving them better options.
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              HughHuntzinger  861dcffb-31e0-4a5e-9afb-133724cb51a9@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  af2c6311-76ab-48d2-afe6-632ed7265776@googlegroups.com
          Owl  szv9379ag.3pa@rooftop.invalid
        HughHuntzinger  0a179afb-c54f-47af-98a5-ac1412bbdca9@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  3910ec3c-42ef-4b71-a20a-c4acfb731767@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  b1ab3dc7-c0ec-4590-8bb0-6e7ebe322f07@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.35am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|62 Top; 7.2 Hours, GoogleG, 71.251.46.9,  Oct 29 {  6:47pm, 2017 }: 3^(PDT)  WɾHн
      Colder places have a lower population density, hence: a higher GDP per capita.

Colder places have a lower population density, hence: a higher GDP per capita;
e.g. Switzerland ( home of the Huntzingers ) is a cold, prosperous country.

Again ( 4+ days later ), I ask you ( Hugh Huntzinger ):

  What country best matches your "socialist" ideals ?
  Norway, Iceland, India, China ?
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.29--2.53am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Kooks need measurements like vampires need a tan.

Kooks need measurements like vampires need a tan.
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              .  308f200b-77ba-47fb-956f-d98782930135@googlegroups.com
            JamesMcGinn  723053c7-6777-4c63-9c67-240875fd7469@googlegroups.com
          pnalsing@gmail_com  2b6104a9-02ab-4b85-a00e-212cce746f9a@googlegroups.com
        JamesMcGinn  70d61452-4b34-45ee-8e42-afb223ef37a1@googlegroups.com
      pnalsing@gmail_com  29423e47-01b1-412d-b0c1-3af4f899c488@googlegroups.com
    Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  ot0sqa$av8$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.28--1.08am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|221 Mad; 4.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 27 {  8:16pm, 2017 }:15^(-5)  WɼОϽ
      When James McGinn's meat becames light and dry in his freezer...

When James McGinn's meat becames light and dry in his freezer
( "freezer burn" ) he knows someone here has messed with it.
ha ha.
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      JohnGohde  b051bf9d-a132-4a27-aed5-8a0509da2416@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  9dfaf5cc-f06a-488f-a24e-792d5a0fba38@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--7.45am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|51 Top; 1.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.53.83,  Oct 27 {  7:26am, 2017 }:49^(PDT)  Wɼʐʩ
      Cocaine and coffee wear down the immune system.

  Cocaine caused the AIDS empidemic, I think;
  cocaine and coffee wear down the immune system.

  For liability reasons, doctors _must treat cancer,
  even when they know that the cancer might be dormant,
  depending on the immune system.

  Older people have (painful) kidney stones, it's natural;
  doctors and patients who think it's prostate cancer
  are killing themselves ( e.g. Steve Jobs ).
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--7.26am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Too often, drug addiction makes one unemployable.

  Too often, drug addiction makes one unemployable;
  so prostitution becomes the LeastBad option.
  And it's our fault, for not giving them better options.
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              AndrzejMatuch  X_nIB.11094$tX2.6120@fx27.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--10.01am.Seattle.2017
          MichaelGlasser  D61768C8.BBA47%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
        SteveCarroll  397209a5-9037-4b41-90f5-208dfc947177@googlegroups.com
      AndrzejMatuch  8lsIB.62607$4X4.16752@fx01.iad
    MrChrisV  o166vcl59r41qtfemsn3bqurohriejrchi@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--5.38am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|156 Dropped; 31.7 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Oct 27 {  4:32am, 2017 }:25^(-5)  Wɼɳʑ
      Anthony Weiner's pedophilia stymied Hillary's election.

Bill Cosby and Cee-Lo "It isn't rape if the victim is unconscious"
Green are Democrats.  Anthony Weiner's pedophilia stymied 
Hillary's election.  Wikipedia says:

  Daily Mail published an article claiming that 
  Weiner had engaged in sexting with a 15-year-old girl,
  and devices owned by Weiner were seized 
  as part of an investigation into this incident.

  The report prompted a criminal investigation 
  and Weiner's laptop was seized. 

  Emails pertinent to the Hillary Clinton email controversy
  were discovered on the laptop, prompting FBI Director
  James Comey to reopen that investigation late into
  the 2016 US presidential election.

  Hillary Clinton has cited Comey's decision as 
  one reason why she lost the election to Donald Trump.   

  On January 31, 2017, The Wall Street Journal reported 
  that federal prosecutors were weighing bringing child 
  pornography charges against Weiner over the incident.

  On May 19, 2017, The New York Times reported 
  Weiner had surrendered to the Federal Bureau 
  of Investigation that morning, intending to plead 
  guilty to a single charge of transferring obscene 
  material to a minor under  a  plea  agreement .

  Under the agreement, Weiner faced 
  a sentence of 21 to 27 months, 
  and will be required to register as a sex offender. 

  At his sentencing, under presiding judge Denise Cote, 
  on September 25, 2017, Weiner was sentenced to 21 months
  in prison beginning on November 6, 2017.

  He will also be under three years of supervision 
  following his prison term.  
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              AndrzejMatuch  X_nIB.11094$tX2.6120@fx27.iad
            SteveCarroll  5bc85867-c393-41bc-93da-2eb85328c968@googlegroups.com
          AndrzejMatuch  kmsIB.62608$4X4.17825@fx01.iad
        HughHuntzinger  251e547e-b4ca-4d04-a315-8e1475fa0a24@googlegroups.com
      MichaelGlasser  D617B31F.BBABB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
    SteveCarroll  0192afd0-7e3a-4b1f-be11-791e890df82e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--5.32pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/2|126 Cool; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Oct 26 {  3:57pm, 2017 }:26^(PDT)  Wɻძη
      Pick the LeastBad option, and hope for the LeastBad luck.

Speaking of allowing illegal aliens, Steve Carroll wrote:
> [ Michael Glasser and Hugh Huntzinger ] are arguing for 
> the "Justice" of one group ( who doesn't follow the law ) 
> at the expense of another ( who does follow the law )

Pick the LeastBad option, and hope for the LeastBad luck.
Seattle, Denver, Phoenix and New York are "Sanctuary Cities".
Wikipedia says:

  Leaders of sanctuary cities want to reduce the fear of deportation
  and possible family break-up among people who are in the country 
  illegally so that such people will be more willing to report crimes, 
  use health and social services, and enroll their children in school.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--10.01am.Seattle.2017
            SteveCarroll  41fe9b43-7615-432d-93f2-e4594adb39aa@googlegroups.com
          HughHuntzinger  8b46abfe-967a-417e-9428-bb22d2fc197f@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  a5fa0420-d783-4c80-8382-cde1bfda0fef@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  6a67fe08-cc7f-4434-8d0c-b818d1562f4c@googlegroups.com
    MrChrisV  hhf4vc1i7kr0il9hh4inc13o5hci0uj7so@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--1.20pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/1|154 Dropped; 4.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Oct 26 {  1: 4pm, 2017 }:16^(-5)  WɻюϾ
      The government can/does intervene, and it gets nasty.

Mr. ChrisV wrote:
> > > immigration law. 
> 
> The truth is that the current situation is market-correct.
> That is, there are laws against it, but there are also many people
> breaking the law.   The level of enforcement is also market-correct.  
> 
> Enforcing laws obviously has pros, but also has costs and drawbacks
> (in this case, big drawbacks in regards to availability in cheap labor).
> 
> People are always going to lose, in my mind, when they second-guess
> the result of the market.  The market knows best.

I agree, the market knows best;
however, the government can/does intervene, and it gets nasty.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--9.38pm.Seattle.2017
            SteveCarroll  f43f8375-7a55-4cfb-b0ab-5527e17f590a@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--11.27pm.Seattle.2017
        HughHuntzinger  bf38cf28-6564-49ec-9af8-e44c4ffb5adf@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  e5575b48-9d93-4419-b967-9acd03e87936@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  X_nIB.11094$tX2.6120@fx27.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--10.01am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|158 Cool; 29.7 Minutes, Pan, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 26 {  9:24am, 2017 }:23  WɻЪN
      I'm always happy to read a new Hugh Huntzinger post.

I'm always happy to read a new Hugh Huntzinger post,
as I find them to be very clear and well informed,
never "cryptic" ( as Steve Carroll claims ) 
nor "boring" ( as Andrzej Matuch says ).
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              HughHuntzinger  ccc6a1f4-b31a-4b05-9c49-dc56b4424136@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  601fa0e9-8ec8-4c0d-9a28-efceeb432da4@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--9.38pm.Seattle.2017
        SteveCarroll  f43f8375-7a55-4cfb-b0ab-5527e17f590a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--11.27pm.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  bf38cf28-6564-49ec-9af8-e44c4ffb5adf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--6.27am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|56 Top; 15 Minutes, GoogleG,  Oct 26 {  4:  am, 2017 }: 2^(PDT)  Wɻϖ2
      What country best matches your ideals, Norway ? Iceland ? India ? China ?

You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) replied ( to me ):
> > No one person can stand up to a large and powerful government.
> > Tiny, illiterate tribes suffer the same fate... always, then and now.
> > "Justice" has nothing to do with it.
> 
> our current Constitution does balance things differently

Sure, land counts too; the Electoral College assigns more weight
to sparsely populated Alaska; dense Hawaii is weighted lower.

Switzerland ( where your ancestors are from ) is a cold, prosperous country.
Colder places have a lower population density, and a higher GDP per capita.

Alaska and Norway have negative taxes, thanks to petroleum;
Canada too, to some extent.

Andrzej Matuch's ( Slimer's ) Canada has a lot of cold, sparsely populated land,
as does Steve Carroll's Colorado... so they're capitalists.

Michael Glasser's ( Snit's ) Arizona is warmer, with a denser population;
so he's more of a hippy dippy, sitar plucking AntiCapitalist.

Discovery Channel's "Gold Rush", this year, provides 
an interesting comparison between Colorado and Canada.

In Colorado, the miners are being attacked in and out of court,
legally and illegally ( gun shots ).

> > > > So long as Bill Gates makes more money than the illegal alien,
> > > > Huntzinger thinks lawmakers, judges and police are "unjust".
> 
> You're close Jeff.  My point is that there's just and unjust laws, and some laws
> happen for reasons such as "Bill Gates".  Doesn't mean that Gates is always bad 
> (or good), but is merely recognizing that things which are beneficial to certain groups 
> aren't automatically beneficial to Society as a whole.  An example used was factors 
> which exaberate inequity...which is not a call for Communism, but merely recognizing 
> that historically, Societies become progressively unstable and less innovative as 
> inequities increase - the insight is to find an optimal balance point...

What country best matches your ideals, Norway ? Iceland ? India ? China ?
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              HughHuntzinger  e8089cba-2319-4084-900c-dd97ad4d57bb@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  83ccddf0-ceea-4f90-83e8-7275f3eb230c@googlegroups.com
          HughHuntzinger  ccc6a1f4-b31a-4b05-9c49-dc56b4424136@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  601fa0e9-8ec8-4c0d-9a28-efceeb432da4@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--9.38pm.Seattle.2017
    SteveCarroll  f43f8375-7a55-4cfb-b0ab-5527e17f590a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--11.27pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|118 Cool; 2.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Oct 25 { 11:15pm, 2017 }:11^(PDT)  WɻΗΠ
      "Justice" has nothing to do with it.

You ( Steve Carroll ) replied ( to me ):
> > So long as Bill Gates makes more money than the illegal alien,
> > Huntzinger thinks lawmakers, judges and police are "unjust".
> 
> I didn't see that.

Near as I can tell, that's how he ( Huntzinger ) thinks.

No one person can stand up to a large and powerful government.
Tiny, illiterate tribes suffer the same fate... always, then and now.
"Justice" has nothing to do with it.
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              HughHuntzinger  3ef0fb79-eaf2-4f5d-a0e6-b7f8e9986dad@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  31826a76-6d02-483d-96ce-3986a4c2f10e@googlegroups.com
          HughHuntzinger  e8089cba-2319-4084-900c-dd97ad4d57bb@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  83ccddf0-ceea-4f90-83e8-7275f3eb230c@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  ccc6a1f4-b31a-4b05-9c49-dc56b4424136@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  601fa0e9-8ec8-4c0d-9a28-efceeb432da4@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--9.38pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/5|116 Cool; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Oct 25 {  6:59pm, 2017 }:29^(PDT)  Wɻʋთ
      When will we ( white males ) get compensated ?

Steve Carroll asked Hugh Huntzinger:
> Seriously, what bothers you so much about enforcing immigration law?

So long as Bill Gates makes more money than the illegal alien,
Huntzinger thinks lawmakers, judges and police are "unjust".

Asian males make more money than white males.
When will we ( white males ) get compensated ?

  Fact is, some prefer "the stone age aesthetic".
  If the Palestinians are unhappy ( a big "if" ),
  then it's up to _them to do something about it;
  PseudoSocialists expect something for nothing.
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              SteveCarroll  2d8d525c-a868-47e2-be6f-0968d28eefa9@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  3ef0fb79-eaf2-4f5d-a0e6-b7f8e9986dad@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  31826a76-6d02-483d-96ce-3986a4c2f10e@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  e8089cba-2319-4084-900c-dd97ad4d57bb@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--5.59am.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  92cc66c6-af44-411c-a420-3a615f6ce7b5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--10.54am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1/2|51 Top; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Oct 25 {  7:10am, 2017 }: 4^(PDT)  WɻLϲ
      Palestinian serfs will destroy their Israeli masters ? !

You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) replied ( to me ):
> > Everyone is richer when Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos get richer;
> > moving to the North Korean ideal would lower the "wage-gap", sure,
> > but then we'd have no Amazon, no MicroSoft, no internet.
> 
> The Average may go up, but not necessarily the Median.  The
> broad observation is that when income disparity becomes too
> great to be sustained, the net result is the French Revolution,
> where the rich were taken to the guillotine for 'redistribution'
> of their body parts.

Like Lenin did, 1917, Russia ?  Workers Unite !
Then it failed, leaving Russia in ruins.
Would you repeat that, here and now ? !

Palestinian serfs will destroy their Israeli masters ? !
I don't think so !
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  osnrfm$nne$1@dont-email.me
            AndrzejMatuch  8AKHB.21030$5e.19225@fx03.iad
          SteveCarroll  2d8d525c-a868-47e2-be6f-0968d28eefa9@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  3ef0fb79-eaf2-4f5d-a0e6-b7f8e9986dad@googlegroups.com
      AndrzejMatuch  us%HB.94897$Iu1.32684@fx20.iad
    HughHuntzinger  768a3b44-db14-4402-9db6-e7b588d6aac0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--6.58am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|49 Top; 24.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Oct 25 {  6:22am, 2017 }: 4^(PDT)  WɻDϲ
      The greater power always wins.

It doesn't matter what some teeny tiny tribe wants;
I don't want the government to take my checking account,
home and wages, but they'll do it anyway, if they want.

The greater power always wins.
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  osnrfm$nne$1@dont-email.me
            AndrzejMatuch  8AKHB.21030$5e.19225@fx03.iad
          SteveCarroll  2d8d525c-a868-47e2-be6f-0968d28eefa9@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  3ef0fb79-eaf2-4f5d-a0e6-b7f8e9986dad@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  31826a76-6d02-483d-96ce-3986a4c2f10e@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  e8089cba-2319-4084-900c-dd97ad4d57bb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.25--5.59am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|49 Top; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 71.251.46.9,  Oct 25 {  3:20am, 2017 }: 4^(PDT)  Wɺქɼ
      Everyone is richer when Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos get richer.

You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) wrote:
> wages/benefits still aren't  COMMENSURATELY  rising:

  Everyone is richer when Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos get richer;
  moving to the North Korean ideal would lower the "wage-gap", sure,
  but then we'd have no Amazon, no MicroSoft, no internet.

  Illegals and Communists make strawberries and iPhones affordable;
  good for us, not so good for them, in their ReEducation camps.
  Around 1980, Khmer Rouge communists killed people who wore glasses
  ( too intellectual looking ) making NAZIs look good.

  Stop allowing money&women to control you.
  U.S. tax records show that 50% of adults were married in 2015,
  down from 72% in 1960.  "Let It Go", by James Bay ( and DanceOn ):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpVf5-aTgys
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              hanson│hanson@quick_net  os6kf3$o7a$1@dont-email.me
            MrAA  bf610ee3-5694-48c1-ad74-560a38a647ac@googlegroups.com
          hanson│hanson@quick_net  osboh7$cmf$1@dont-email.me
        MrAA  b0029946-9afe-4d27-a468-1947322ad27b@googlegroups.com
      hanson│hanson@quick_net  ose9i8$1i2$1@dont-email.me
    MrAA  58a15a2c-104d-48b5-b05c-22b004baa580@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--8.01pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4/5|114 Top; 4.7 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Oct 21 {  2:19pm, 2017 }: 7^(PDT)  Wɸξȹ
      Hanson would trade all of his riches for a good boner.

Hanson would trade all of his riches for a good boner.
His tormentor, Herbert, is a DirtPoor psychedelic hippie, 
( more Scooby Doo than a Jew ).

A.A. is too old/disabled to _enjoy another $80'000, much less earn it.

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/ScoobyVan.JPG" Alt='Scooby Doo Van.'>
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.09am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  b476da45-45f6-4f4a-85d0-60f532053eac@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.26pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  37f3b6ef-1f4a-4aa4-b7b6-5994fd8a4997@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--9.44pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  a2ba8266-142e-4359-9523-16890d3d0e5d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.21--7.13am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|29 Top; 23.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 46.183.218.199,  Oct 21 {  6:26am, 2017 }:35^(PDT)  Wɸʆʛ
      Families are obsolete.

Takuya Saitoh asked me:
> > When I die, it's up to the living to decide what to do about it.
> > They _should feed me to pigs, fish, or plants, but they won't.
> > Same for when I'm disabled.  It's up to them, not me.
> > In America, disabled people get fat Social Security checks.
> 
> Yo mean the Obumacare?  

No, it's "FDR care", starting in 1935, and growing ever since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)#History

> But you have to be poor and own nothing to become eligible for it 

No, Bill Gates would qualify too, were he disabled.

> Trump can make end to this social security support system

No, it's thee most popular government program; 
it's HUGE and growing.

> It's good to have a big family with kids who will take care of you
> when yo disabled by the aging process...  

No, families are obsolete.

  U.S. tax records show that 50% of adults were married in 2015,
  down from 72% in 1960.  Marriage is too risky; it's too easy to 
  lose one's home or kids to drugs or divorce; it's not worth it.

Once disabled, my fate is in the hands of others, not me.
Your wife is your master, you're the slave.

> And it's good to live on yo own land 
> and in yo own house for that matter too.

Try not paying your insurance premiums, propery tax, etc.;
soon, you'll learn who _really owns the property ( not you ).

> The Chinese capitalist may kick yo out on the street
> when yo no longer able to maintain the rooming house for him.

In America, disabled people get Social Security checks;
I could pay for it, instead of working for it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.09am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  0ef93358-4380-45b0-96da-5bb397feaa46@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.09am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  b476da45-45f6-4f4a-85d0-60f532053eac@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.26pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  37f3b6ef-1f4a-4aa4-b7b6-5994fd8a4997@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--9.44pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|31 Top; 21.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 62.210.129.246,  Oct 20 {  9:14pm, 2017 }:37^(PDT)  Wɸgʝ
      They _should feed me to pigs, fish, or plants, but they won't.

Takuya Saitoh asked me:
> What yo gonna do when yo body starts falling apart?
> When yo unable to handle simple self sustaining tasks alone due to pain or immobility?
> DO you have any plans for such a situation 
> which comes sooner or later due to the inevitable aging process?
> Would a home for the elderly be a solution, could yo afford it?

When I die, it's up to the living to decide what to do about it.
They _should feed me to pigs, fish, or plants, but they won't.

Same for when I'm disabled.  It's up to them, not me.
In America, disabled people get fat Social Security checks.
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      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  4bf02477-405f-4b6f-8a97-c24da3bf915a@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  bd3df602-3c84-4bca-b428-21dff831b35c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--7.14pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 11/11|125 Top; 3.7 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 20 {  2:53pm, 2017 }:39^(PDT)  Wɷრს
      NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole.

> So a hint, just a hint so far, that the Pauli exclusion Principle
> might not be enough to form a Darkstar instead of a true Black Hole.

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...

  Now add a little "gravity&eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ), 
  so it all fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago:
  less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Life consumes gravity&eXergy, same as the sun.
  Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not gravity&eXergy.

  Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
  the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and it accelerates as gravity&eXergy dies off.
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        Serg_io│invalid@invalid_com  os8li5$8tu$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  2397401.YYq97XiDLp@PointedEars.de
    EdProchak  1b8b1bd5-4962-4969-9c8e-b2c1587f78a5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--7.06pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 5/11|125 Top; 7.6 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 20 { 10:59am, 2017 }:53^(PDT)  Wɷйჯ
      " From: Jeff-Relf.Me " is the right way to do it.

You ( EdProchak ) replied ( to Thomas Lahn ):
> > Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in <news:sci.physics>:
> > ^^[1]^^  ^^^^^[2]^^^^^^^^^^^
> > [1] It is considered polite to post using one’s real name.
> > [2] This is network abuse; see also RFC 5536.
> 
> Some folks don't like the bots sucking up their email address.
> I have watched folks doing variations of munged
> email addresses for decades at this point.  It's not a big deal.

In Lahn's mind, neither spam bots nor the web exist.
" From: Jeff-Relf.Me " is the right way to do it.
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              mitchrae3323@gmail_com  5b4b2ad2-923a-40c5-b34e-739b84ddf5bd@googlegroups.com
            pnalsing@gmail_com  78bbdf38-6266-48f1-85a3-c170cb8a04a6@googlegroups.com
          mitchrae3323@gmail_com  f254be0d-fc35-4768-a937-73e879a8a9f7@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  e0ba9fd9-8d43-457b-b30e-b2e4d6bc64e6@googlegroups.com
      Arindam_Banerjee│  dcb46c73-c7e0-400a-b266-acc471977947@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  a822070b-a4cc-40cd-a7f8-eac8b252d60f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--6.57pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3/11|125 Top; 7.8 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 20 { 10:48am, 2017 }:11^(PDT)  WɷиB
      A mile above sea level, it's fucking _cold, not hot.

Temperatures increase with depth, due to accumulated pressure.
A mile above sea level, it's fucking _cold, not hot.
A mile below, it's fucking _hot, not cold.

For some reason, unknown to anyone, Arindam Banerjee disagrees.
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              mitchrae3323@gmail_com  f254be0d-fc35-4768-a937-73e879a8a9f7@googlegroups.com
            pnalsing@gmail_com  e980e498-2d73-4b2a-9597-2b61c7d57aef@googlegroups.com
          JamesMcGinn  aeba762a-2472-4937-adb6-5e38cd45074e@googlegroups.com
        pnalsing@gmail_com  5906f73c-b912-4f68-a960-f34fe66ff792@googlegroups.com
      JamesMcGinn  18dda6a8-4d1e-42c0-8f47-5e3b5da2e305@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  3d5166e2-5da2-4e4c-98bb-87a783b6fb14@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--6.45pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2/11|125 Top; 8.1 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 20 { 10:33am, 2017 }:49^(PDT)  Wɷеϕ
      Cloud Seeding.

James McGinn wrote:
> > Do you really believe water can turn gaseous
> > at temperatures below its boiling temperature/pressure?

Without something to hold on to ( e.g. a dust particle ),
gaseous "water" ( H_2 O ) can't form liquid drops,
...... it'd sooner evaporate than condense.

Hence " Cloud Seeding ".     NoDust == NoRain.

See " Rain's Dirty Little Secret ", by MinuteEarth, May, 2015
1.8 million views  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87v_9Bud7vw
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.09am.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  0ef93358-4380-45b0-96da-5bb397feaa46@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.09am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  b476da45-45f6-4f4a-85d0-60f532053eac@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.26pm.Seattle.2017
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  5824a30d-4459-4ef2-9282-987f202b73be@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.02pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|55 Cool; 7.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Oct 20 {  4:42pm, 2017 }:14^(PDT)  WɷჳE
      Gratuitous Libel.

You ( a SelfProfessed shammer ) told me:
> You're a lonely, pathetic loser...

Thanks for the gratuitous libel, 
I'm sure that wins you plenty of fine friends.

Fact is:  I've _never_ been lonely or depressed.
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              AndrzejMatuch  GM7GB.21543$og2.6025@fx37.iad
            RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  osbpiu$gu8$1@dont-email.me
          AndrzejMatuch  VfmGB.11787$2w2.10496@fx16.iad
        RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  osd8pd$a6n$1@dont-email.me
      AndrzejMatuch  TYrGB.18654$pU1.8958@fx17.iad
    Your_Friendly_Neighbourhood_  s6ednRBFM7dHy3fEnZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.47pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|3 Cool; 3.4 Hours, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM,  Oct 20 {  1: 4pm, 2017 }:42^(-5)  WɷюШ
      Khmer Rouge communists killed people who wore glasses.

Someone wrote:
> these people simply can't handle living in a society where 
> everyone is not exactly the same as themselves.  
> that's basically fascism.

Khmer Rouge communists killed people who wore glasses
( too intellectual looking ).
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              JohnGohde  15246dad-4fa9-4a81-a657-8b04ac234ff4@googlegroups.com
            TakuyaSaitoh  6bd15b3a-b236-45cd-8ea2-c9edf1cc4f86@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.09am.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  0ef93358-4380-45b0-96da-5bb397feaa46@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.09am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  b476da45-45f6-4f4a-85d0-60f532053eac@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.26pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|28 Top; 6.2 Hours, GoogleG, 51.15.84.183,  Oct 20 {  9:54am, 2017 }:15^(PDT)  WɷЯF
      I've _never_ been lonely or depressed.

You ( Takuya Saitoh ) replied ( to me ):
> > I'm _mostly_ retired ( since 1988 ).
> > My income is half programming, half managing.
> 
> The rooming house is yo savior, yo don't have to worry 
> about a place to live, nor yo have to pay any rent, right?  

I have to _earn_ my rent; otherwise, I'd be evicted.
My location:

    4547 19th Ave NE Seattle, 98105. 
    Immediately North of campus (UW), between 
    the University Village and "the Ave".
    ＜<A hRef="http://maps.google.com/maps?q= 4547 19th Ave NE Seattle 98105">4547 19th Ave NE Seattle, Google Maps</A>＞

> What protects yo from depressions, the company of young tenants (shower webcams;-) 
> or is the 4k Windoze system all that is needed to flood yo brain with enough dopamine?
> 
> We are programmed to live and reproduce in groups/tribes much like dogs,
> we are social creatures, living alone makes us prone to depressions and suicide....
> Sometimes the TVs can fool the brain of lonely old people so it thinks
> it's surrounded with many others of its kind.

I've _never_ been lonely or depressed.
I'm the master of my 4K, 40 inch, ArmMounted monitor ( Win10, updated ),
and I've plenty of _nice_ friends ( all ages/types ).
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.21pm.Seattle.2017
            .  c3dd3802-1b40-46c4-a02b-05b150205eb5@googlegroups.com
          .  15246dad-4fa9-4a81-a657-8b04ac234ff4@googlegroups.com
        .  6bd15b3a-b236-45cd-8ea2-c9edf1cc4f86@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.09am.Seattle.2017
    MrAA  208c94e0-7a65-419a-8722-85bba5a2adf2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.38pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/8|113 Top; 58.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Oct 20 {  2:13pm, 2017 }:26^(PDT)  Wɷლɖ
      Abella Danger FleshLight ( in inches, I measured it ).

You ( Mr AA ) replied ( to me ):
> > I (mostly) retired at age 28, when my ex dumped me for another man.
> > Since then, I don't trust women; so I do what _I_ want.
> > Very liberating.
> 
> I always did think that, 
> rather than marrying a wife to take care of your needs, 
> it'd be cheaper to buy it piecemeal:  cooking, cleaning, and sex.

Instead of constantly catering to a woman's needs,
I have "sex" when I want it ( Porn and a FleshLight ),
food when and how I want it ( better and cheaper ),
living how and where I want ( Univ. of Wash., garage aesthetic ).

Abella Danger FleshLight ( in inches, I measured it ):

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Abella.Danger.Fleshlight.JPG" Alt='Abella Danger FleshLight.'>
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.21pm.Seattle.2017
            TakuyaSaitoh  c3dd3802-1b40-46c4-a02b-05b150205eb5@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  15246dad-4fa9-4a81-a657-8b04ac234ff4@googlegroups.com
        TakuyaSaitoh  6bd15b3a-b236-45cd-8ea2-c9edf1cc4f86@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.09am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  0ef93358-4380-45b0-96da-5bb397feaa46@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.09am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|26 Top; 6 Secs, GoogleG, 46.182.18.46,  Oct 20 {  7:40am, 2017 }:25^(PDT)  WɷИЗ
      I'm _mostly_ retired ( since 1988 ).

You ( Takuya Saitoh ) replied ( to me ):
> > 55 is already too old.  You should've dumped your wife.
> > 
> > I (mostly) retired at age 28, when my ex dumped me for another man.
> > Since then, I don't trust women; so I do what _I_ want.
> > Very liberating.
> 
> Yo work, Jeff, for living.
> Yo cleaning the rooming house for the Chinese capitalist, aren't you?
> Or is your income purely from playing with the Windoze?

I'm _mostly_ retired ( since 1988 ).
My income is half programming, half managing.

I don't clean much anymore, we hired someone for that ( once a week ).
I manage a 32 unit rooming house, keeping it rented, fixing stuff, etc.
And yes, the owner is a Chinese capitalist, herbalist, Dr. Huang.

Also, I work for "The Bankers" ( ABA.COM ).
They're creating a website for "my" BankExec simulation
( I'm the "plumber", Dr. Haley is the architect ).

How involved I'll be is yet to be seen;
in the past, people spent a ton on expensive programmers,
only to wind up using my ( much cheaper ) code exclusively.

The past will repeat itself, I predict, despite my advanced age;
but I could be wrong, of course.  Either way, I'm fine/happy.
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            TakuyaSaitoh  68f6ce51-9ba3-40d9-98f1-33c1d46a12eb@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.21pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  c3dd3802-1b40-46c4-a02b-05b150205eb5@googlegroups.com
      JohnGohde  15246dad-4fa9-4a81-a657-8b04ac234ff4@googlegroups.com
    TakuyaSaitoh  6bd15b3a-b236-45cd-8ea2-c9edf1cc4f86@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--5.09am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/2|25 Top; 22 Minutes, GoogleG, 146.185.177.103,  Oct 20 {  4:37am, 2017 }:17^(PDT)  WɷϜɅ
      55 is already too old.  You should've dumped your wife.

You ( Takuya Saitoh ) wote:
> Yo damn lucky to get yo pension from the age of 60 till yo die...
> Japs like myself get their free money only after the age of 70!!!
> Yo fired from the guaranteed work at the age of 60 
> with no income for 10 damn years here...  
> 
> It takes enormous antiaging effort to enjoy the pension money,
> most Westerners are pretty disabled for anything by the age of 70
> with only a few years left before the reaper checks them out.

55 is already too old.  You should've dumped your wife.

I (mostly) retired at age 28, when my ex dumped me for another man.
Since then, I don't trust women; so I do what _I_ want.
Very liberating.
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              JamesMcGinn  f1a57c72-0bda-478d-afce-22221013a698@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  or6896$jhs$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JamesMcGinn  6f5b75ea-ecc7-4607-bc26-a46a9ebf9cc4@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  or8us9$1du2$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JamesMcGinn  c4a46221-6b4c-4a30-a3b1-b9e307085828@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  osclbh$mt4$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--4.21am.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism
    ╱ 1/1|124 Cool; 3.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 20 {  4: 6am, 2017 }:26  WɷϗQ
      Billions believe in (obvious) fairy tales.

Billions believe in (obvious) fairy tales.
James McGinn is no different.

  Intentionally fooling oneself ( via SciFi, ideology or religion )
  can be profoundly beneficial.

  Christianity is  "wrong" but, occasionally, useful.
  All theories are "wrong" but, occasionally, useful.

  Useful Premise: Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. 

    We're all just robots, programmed by nature to consume.
    The only difference between us and the sun, is how/what we consume.

    The ( four dimensional ) timescape is static, immutable;
    the future is just as fixed as the past;
    but only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.

    Quantum Correlations are acausal, like a series of dice tosses.
    The Correlations say nothing about the next roll of the dice,
    but they _can_ tell you that, in 100 tosses,
    2 ( snake eyes ) happens less often than 7 ( 3 + 4, 1 + 6, etc. ).

    Each toss is known to be fully causal, not random.
    The path of a storm is known to be fully causal, however unknown.
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        TakuyaSaitoh  68f6ce51-9ba3-40d9-98f1-33c1d46a12eb@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.21pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  c3dd3802-1b40-46c4-a02b-05b150205eb5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--2.33am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1/1|23 Top; 5.8 Hours, GoogleG, 185.103.99.60,  Oct 19 {  8:33pm, 2017 }:  ^(PDT)  WɷʛΕ
      Lots of people don't have to work, both here and in Japan.

Takuya Saitoh asked:
> > > Who the f*ck is this Steven Petruzzellis??
> > > that individual must have plenty of free time to kill,
> > > who feeds him/her?
> > 
> > He's a Snit sock and, yes, he has TONS of free time.
> > Everyone feeds him, including you and me, now.
> 
> Why has he chosen to keep jamming just this NG?  

He ( snit ) needs everyone to love him 100%, unconditionally.
When it doesn't happpen, he freaks out.

> I mean who gives him money to live?  Is he paid by 
> the Govt just for being alive like our senior citizens?

Yes, lots of people don't have to work, both here and in Japan.
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    TakuyaSaitoh  68f6ce51-9ba3-40d9-98f1-33c1d46a12eb@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.21pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2/2|22 Top; 50.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.8.100,  Oct 19 {  6:18pm, 2017 }:33^(PDT)  WɷʅX
      Who the f*ck is this Steven Petruzzellis??

Takuya Saitoh asked:
> Who the f*ck is this Steven Petruzzellis??
> that individual must have plenty of free time to kill,
> who feeds him/her?

He's a Snit sock and, yes, he has TONS of free time.
Everyone feeds him, including you and me, now.
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              .  4bf02477-405f-4b6f-8a97-c24da3bf915a@googlegroups.com
            .  bee60062-4e25-498f-bb92-d3fc155c14b8@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--0.54pm.Seattle.2017
        TakuyaSaitoh  d11baf04-03bf-4b6d-9d86-64ec08083d43@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--5.59am.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  573f6dba-3977-4d64-91e6-8b814c11c31a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--7.17pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|22 Top; 51.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 51.15.8.100,  Oct 19 {  6:17pm, 2017 }:20^(PDT)  Wɷʄю
      A uniform heat bath has energy&entropy, but not eXergy.

> > A uniform heat bath has energy&entropy, but not eXergy.
> > rms consumes eXergy, as does the sun.
> 
> Then what is his source?  
> Hamburgers and pizza loaded with "eXergy"?

Yes, eXergy from the sun is stored in plants and animals;
rms eats it, using it up, as does the sun itself.
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              HughHuntzinger  30bac981-0542-4ebe-9c29-f4f3259edca0@googlegroups.com
            Owl  azv038908ba.h8@rooftop.invalid
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  os9bp6$n7j$1@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  afd2f29c-3a7c-4486-8290-bf19c40a978c@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  lhfhuc1sqpr752cq6h4dj0vpqm8ur8t3eh@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  2192b6e1-c82a-45c7-bb69-65bc06b277c1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--3.46pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 4/11|42 Top; 6.1 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Oct 19 {  8:52am, 2017 }:15^(PDT)  WɷcϽ
      Owning a car is a HUGE negative here, by the Univ. of Washington.

Owning a car is a HUGE negative here, by the Univ. of Washington.
Walking is more fun, parking is nearly impossible.
I order online and I have a "BeachComber MacWagon".
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              MrChrisV  m5jeuc95vhrl32mon3fvga0cm6r1sfg9nn@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  nhveuc54oeq3ibcjji0eoiq7lm15m093if@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  ob0fucpihrqiv277dn8vqfhrub2kakfq83@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  209fuct43tm3ml43uo8bl6moauuuvta67e@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--10.32pm.Seattle.2017
    AndrzejMatuch  Q01GB.10883$gc3.1519@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--6.07am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|110 Cool; 15.2 Minutes, Pan, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 19 {  5:38am, 2017 }: 8  Wɷ6ʀ
      Andrzej Matuch is a "Catholic communist", not a capitalist ?

You ( Andrzej Matuch ) replied ( to me ):
> If I'm fit, it's because I'm a conservative alpha male,
> not a capitalist.

You're a "Catholic communist", not a capitalist ?
I don't get it.
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          .  4bf02477-405f-4b6f-8a97-c24da3bf915a@googlegroups.com
        .  bee60062-4e25-498f-bb92-d3fc155c14b8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--0.54pm.Seattle.2017
    TakuyaSaitoh  d11baf04-03bf-4b6d-9d86-64ec08083d43@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--5.59am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/2|24 Top; 52.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 137.74.73.179,  Oct 19 {  5:  am, 2017 }:32^(PDT)  Wɷ0W
      rms consumes eXergy, as does the sun.

> > Life consumes eXergy, same as the sun.
> > Eventually, MostAll eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not eXergy.
> 
> The evolution of complex life forms (like RMS)
> go directly against yo rules...

No, rms consumes eXergy, as does the sun.

> > Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
> > the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
> > and it accelerates as gravity&eXergy dies off.
> 
> does gravity = eXergy then?

They're related, like space and time;
you can't have one without the other.

Both are a special form of energy;
i.e. energy that can do physical work.
A uniform heat bath has energy&entropy, but not eXergy.
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              AndrzejMatuch  cuheucp5ub44fpgniug2cksmo7qhjnr669@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  5cc7a7b0-1016-4248-a971-6d8bf3aa0e33@googlegroups.com
          Fabian  46b40a99-e92c-4849-8fa8-c1508577c22f@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  nlveuc5hm4pvm3rqbaj97a1r1ukn2ggo9j@4ax.com
      Fabian  1bea6619-321e-48a1-9d5a-6ffbd2f3c896@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  184843fc-e5a5-4f1d-981e-b618dade50de@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--11.11pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/5|150 Cool; 11.3 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Oct 18 { 10:17am, 2017 }:20^(PDT)  Wɶʬю
      Without (Darwinian) punishments and/or rewards, nothing happens.

SteveCarroll replied ( to Fabian ):
> > The example of Internet Explorer flies in the face of High Horse's
> > assertion that the capitalist market destroys inferior products.
> 
> the 'dark days' are now over, no more having to alter things 
> just so IE viewers could be satisfied.

The market destroyed Internet Explorer.
Android is thee most successful distro because Google paid for it.
Without (Darwinian) punishments and/or rewards, nothing happens.

Capitalism rewards "achievement", as judged by the market;
Communism punishes "failure", as judged by "God" 
( e.g. Vladimir Lenin, Kim JongUn or Fidel Castro ).
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              MrChrisV  8ffeuc1pc35c9msto9lstu07fb145q1bmg@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  cuheucp5ub44fpgniug2cksmo7qhjnr669@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  m5jeuc95vhrl32mon3fvga0cm6r1sfg9nn@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  nhveuc54oeq3ibcjji0eoiq7lm15m093if@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  ob0fucpihrqiv277dn8vqfhrub2kakfq83@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  209fuct43tm3ml43uo8bl6moauuuvta67e@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--10.32pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 7/7|108 Cool; 9.6 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Oct 18 { 11:58am, 2017 }:27^(-4)  WɶΞЙ
      Andrzej Matuch ( pictured ) is a capitalist because he's fit.

Andrzej Matuch replied ( to Mr. ChrisV ):
> > YOU are the wannabe "expert" or "four-eyed blob" who thinks that he
> > knows better than everyone else.
> 
> Pictures of me are available everywhere and anyone can see that unlike
> you guys, I'm physically fit. My vision is also 20/15 last time I was
> evaluated which means that I see better than 20/20.

Andrzej Matuch ( pictured below ) is a capitalist because he's fit.

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/AndrzejMatuch.JPG" Alt='Andrzej Matuch.'>
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.18--9.33pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      Windows Server Market Share.

Quoting " 2016 Operating Systems and Hypervisor Market Share ":

  Fully 87.7% of the physical servers and VMs
  in the Spiceworks network (which are mostly on-premises) 
  run Microsoft Windows Server.

https://community.spiceworks.com/networking/articles/2462-server-virtualization-and-os-trends
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    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.17--1.41am.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.17--1.52am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Emma Blackery (slowly) dumps YouTube.

Correction ( wrong link ):

  Emma Blackery (slowly) dumps YouTube.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SOo-Zlp-u4
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.17--1.41am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      BigTime (pedophiliac) advertizers.

  Suddenly, BigTime (pedophiliac) advertizers realized that
  not all YouTube videos addressed people age 12 and under;
  so they pulled out of YouTube, leaving it high and dry.

  OnceRich YouTubers are now broke, begging for money and respect.
  YouTube is now censored more than broadcast TV;
  and, worse, it's done by robots.

Emma Blackery dumps YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SOo-Zlp-u4

<img Src="http://Jeff-Relf.Me/EmmaBlackery_Oct2017.JPG" Alt='Oct 2017, Emma Blackery dumps YouTube.'>
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          mitchrae3323@gmail_com  4bf02477-405f-4b6f-8a97-c24da3bf915a@googlegroups.com
        EdProchak  bee60062-4e25-498f-bb92-d3fc155c14b8@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--0.54pm.Seattle.2017
    EdProchak  37fe8e3b-5ff5-411d-b17c-e7379fdc2f14@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--9.17pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/4|107 Top; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 12 {  7:14pm, 2017 }:50^(PDT)  WɲДʪ
      Infinitely fast clocks.

Ed Prochak replied ( to me ):
> >   Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
> >   Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...
> > 
> >   Now add a little "eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ),
> >   so it all fits in the head of a pin.
> 
> making up a new term, does not a new theory make.

Nothing new.  Look it up, if you can:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy

Call it whatever you'd like, the end result is the same:

  Less entropy, more eXergy/Gravity/Density, 13.8 billion years ago.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

> >   the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
> 
> Yes atomic absorption/emission lines are a good reference point
> for many measurements.
> 
> >   and it accelerates as gravity&eXergy dies off.
> 
> There, Relativity says your are wrong, my friend.

You're a natural clock yourself, in a way;
near an event horizon, you "stop ticking" ( photons too ).
"universal heat death" is the opposite of that; to wit:

   infinitely fast clocks.
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          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  51f0ccd5-cf17-4579-943f-71db81fd00fc@googlegroups.com
        Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann  ornl82$325$1@dont-email.me
      William_Poaster│wp@dev_null  jk34be-8j8.ln1@debian.machineone.org
    HughHuntzinger  ff7a3342-249c-4bdb-9807-78cb35333d30@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.12--4.30pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 1/1|23 Top; 22.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 175.45.73.98,  Oct 12 {  3:47pm, 2017 }:  ^(PDT)  Wɲϒк
      "They" ( Blinky and German admins ) couldn't decode/display anything.

Hugh Huntzinger replied:
> > <http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/>
> > "Most of the people who post to Usenet via the clunky Google Groups web 
> > interface are lusers or lamers." 
> 
> Oh, it's Blinky's old website.  Nice guy (RIP).

"They" ( Blinky and German admins ) couldn't decode/display anything;
unlike Google and Mozilla, their FOSS was limited to U.S. ASCII, PlainText.

They hated "us" ( GoogleGroups and me ) for being too sophisticated;
e.g. we understood MIME, HTML, ContentType, Base64, Quoted Printable, etc.
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          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  51f0ccd5-cf17-4579-943f-71db81fd00fc@googlegroups.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  ormdtg$4cg$1@news.albasani.net
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  ormkue$plr$1@dont-email.me
    BranimirMaksimovic  ormms5$vsv$1@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--8.53pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|66 Cool; 20.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Albasani.NET,  Oct 11 {  8:17pm, 2017 }:25  WɲWდ
      Sexual ATHLETE, Abella Danger.

Do you smoke, Mr. Maksimovic ?
Serbians smoke the most cigarettes per capita,
followed by Bulgaria, Greece and Russia; see:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYiPqkt7ieM

Porn ( from Miami ) is big there too, I assume.
To see some MindBlowing sexual ATHLETES, check out:

  Reality Kings' "Gropist 2", starring Abella Danger and Mandy Muse.

PornHub owns Reality Kings.
Quoting " Facial Recognition for Porn Stars Is a Privacy Nightmare "
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3kmpb/facial-recognition-for-porn-stars-is-a-privacy-nightmare-waiting-to-happen

  PornHub announced that it is using machine learning
  and facial recognition to detect over 10,000 porn stars across the site
  in a bid to make searching for your favorite star or fetish more efficient.

Ukrainian/Jewish Abella Danger was born in Miami, Nov 1995.

" 6 Questions & 1 Hitachi - with Abella Danger "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkzPBAeWlbc
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        mitchrae3323@gmail_com  4bf02477-405f-4b6f-8a97-c24da3bf915a@googlegroups.com
      EdProchak  bee60062-4e25-498f-bb92-d3fc155c14b8@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--0.54pm.Seattle.2017
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--1.02pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4/5|104 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 11 { 10: 6am, 2017 }:59^(PDT)  Wɱбx
      "gravity&eXergy" not just "gravity" or "eXergy".

[ Corrected to "gravity&eXergy" instead of just "gravity" or "eXergy" ]

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...

  Now add a little "gravity&eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ), 
  so it all fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Life consumes gravity&eXergy, same as the sun.
  Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not gravity&eXergy.

  Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
  the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and it accelerates as gravity&eXergy dies off.
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      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  4bf02477-405f-4b6f-8a97-c24da3bf915a@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  bee60062-4e25-498f-bb92-d3fc155c14b8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--0.54pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4/5|104 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 40.135.194.44,  Oct 11 { 10: 6am, 2017 }:59^(PDT)  Wɱбx
      Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death.

Ed Prochak wrote:
> similar to neutron star, we have a photon star.
> So a Black Hole is a photon star.

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...

  Now add a little "gravity&eXergy" ( energy that can do physical work ), 
  so it all fits in the head of a pin.

  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Life consumes gravity&eXergy, same as the sun.
  Eventually, MostAll gravity&eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not gravity&eXergy.

  Lord Kelvin, 1852, originated the idea of universal heat death;
  the frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and it accelerates as gravity&eXergy dies off.
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  orhd2t$5sb$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  orhdaq$639$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  orhdjq$6g0$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  orhdqk$6nl$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  59dd3094$0$12850$b1db1813$5890f3ee@news.astraweb.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  orjt4f$aef$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--7.04pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|146 Cool; 35 Secs, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Oct 10 {  6:45pm, 2017 }:51  Wɱʉϗ
      Tremendous heat and pressure are needed to grow diamonds.

Tremendous heat and pressure are needed to grow diamonds;
i.e. it consumes eXergy ( energy that can do physical work )
and increases entropy, net net.
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              MrChrisV  lq7ctc1k81uj6oth9akaq12lbuaj4ofd0c@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  e3acd72a-7c78-4651-9238-ad3242100154@googlegroups.com
          ChrisAhlstrom  or959k$kjs$4@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  7f040b80-14e2-43e0-bebe-e57f536c1480@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--7.51pm.Seattle.2017
    HughHuntzinger  c8595d51-305d-4859-b9d9-eecff8e3f869@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--10.49am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1/4|21 Top; 8.5 Hours, GoogleG, 202.171.180.70,  Oct 10 {  1:59am, 2017 }:57^(PDT)  Wɰთჳ
      Linus Torvalds has a nice house/family in Portland, he gets paid.

Linus Torvalds has a nice house/family in Portland, he gets paid.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--10.21pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Not Chinese, British or American, not French... Russian.

  How does one get to the International Space Station ?
  ESA, NASA, JAXA, CNSA ? No, you pay the Russians, RosCosmos.

  Of the six people on board ISS right now, three are Russian.
  Not Chinese, British or American, not French... Russian.
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    AbhinavLal  f4491bb6-4000-48ea-bc2d-e5902f6c4122@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--3.06pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 6.4 Hours, GoogleG, 122.162.134.176,  Oct  8 {  8:13am, 2017 }:22^(PDT)  WɯОɒ
      Life consumes eXergy ( energy that can do physical work, including gravity ).

  Life consumes eXergy ( energy that can do physical work, including gravity );
  same as the sun.

  Eventually, MostAll eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
  leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has energy, but not eXergy.

  Imagine the Earth, the Sun, the Solar system, the Milky Way,
  Andromeda, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies we see today...

  Now add a little eXergy to it, so it all fits in the head of a pin.
  When you're done, that's what it was like, 13.8 billion years ago.
  [ And, NO, it was NOT a (notional) black hole back then ]

  Lord Kelvin originated the idea of universal heat death in 1852.
  The frequency of a light emitter is a natural clock/ruler, 
  and the frequency accelerates as gravity&eXergy dies off;
  and we've measured "it" ( "Heat Death" ).

  Intentionally fooling oneself ( via SciFi, ideology or religion )
  can be profoundly beneficial.

  Christianity is  "wrong" but, occasionally, useful.
  All theories are "wrong" but, occasionally, useful.

  Useful Premise: Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. 

    We're all just robots, programmed by nature to consume.
    The only difference between us and the sun, is how/what we consume.

    The ( four dimensional ) timescape is static, immutable;
    the future is just as fixed as the past;
    but only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.

    Quantum Correlations are acausal, like a series of dice tosses.
    The Correlations say nothing about the next roll of the dice,
    but they _can_ tell you that, in 100 tosses,
    2 ( snake eyes ) happens less often than 7 ( 3 + 4, 1 + 6, etc. ).

    Each toss is known to be fully causal, not random.
    The path of a storm is known to be fully causal, however unknown.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--1.54am.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      YouTube channels I watch regularly.

EmmaBlackery           Vloggery                 ADVChina
Serpentza              Laowhy86                 VisualPolitik EN
TopTenz                Today I Found Out        Fermilab
Half as Interesting    Wendover Productions     MinuteEarth
MinutePhysics          SciShow                  Daily News
ssSniperWolf           The Infographics Show    Techquickie
Linus Tech Tips        CGP Grey                 WatchMojo.COM
Thoughty2              Seeker                   List25
Second Thought         National Geographic      World Science U
Top 10s                Curious Droid            MatthewSantoro
RealLifeLore           Talltanic                Top Lists
LukeIsNotSexy          TheOdd1sOut              Veritasium
AsapSCIENCE            Tom Scott                CollegeHumor
VICE                   TheRichest               Karl Pilkington
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              MrChrisV  aqcatc9c2v7iu394960v25c1o0tplc9v3p@4ax.com
            ChrisAhlstrom  or3n2f$159$1@dont-email.me
          MrChrisV  lq7ctc1k81uj6oth9akaq12lbuaj4ofd0c@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  e3acd72a-7c78-4651-9238-ad3242100154@googlegroups.com
      ChrisAhlstrom  or959k$kjs$4@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  7f040b80-14e2-43e0-bebe-e57f536c1480@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--7.51pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|14 Top; 38.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 203.47.176.226,  Oct  7 {  7: 5pm, 2017 }:23^(PDT)  Wɯʌბ
      If Android is a Linux distro then...

If Android is a Linux distro then, surely, 
money made it more popular than SuSE or RedHat.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--7.42pm.Seattle.2017
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      The stone age aesthetic.

  Fact is, some prefer "the stone age aesthetic".
  If the Palestinians are unhappy ( a big "if" ),
  then it's up to _them to do something about it;
  PseudoSocialists expect something for nothing.
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      poraty350@gmail_com  219a6850-5298-4ec5-9bc6-61ecf6c90d02@googlegroups.com
    Peter│Poakfield@msn_com  61c4a4de-6c72-4c63-80bd-653b43285271@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--5.00pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 2/2|3 Shifty; 3.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Oct  7 {  1: 1pm, 2017 }:42^(PDT)  Wɯɐɦ
      Everything is composed of fields, not mass.

> > please show me a force -in which  **mass *is not involved with it !!! 
> 
> There is no such thing.

Everything is composed of fields, not mass.

"mass" is "rest mass".
Photons have momentum, but no mass.
Photons are _never at rest.
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      Peter│Poakfield@msn_com  c0d67b34-2c30-4324-b6b5-c130c1293694@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  orbab9$snn$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--4.49pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 14/14|147 Cool; 3.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Oct  7 {   :36pm, 2017 }: 9  WɯɄ9
      Colder than Absolute Zero.

> > What is the lowest temperature obtained experimentally?
> 
> A few nano kelvins, I recall.  Could be better now. 

Quoting " Atoms Reach Record Temperature, Colder than Absolute Zero "
https://www.livescience.com/25959-atoms-colder-than-absolute-zero.html

  When objects with positive temperature release 
  energy, they increase the entropy of things around 
  them, making them behave more chaotically.  However, 
  when objects with negative temperatures release 
  energy, they can actually absorb entropy.  

Quoting " The Physics of Negative Pressure "
http://discovermagazine.com/2003/mar/featscienceof

  As water evaporates up top, it stretches the bonds 
  between interlinked molecules in the column below, 
  generating considerable tension. "The pressure inside 
  the xylem tubes of the tallest trees could be as low 
  as -20 atmospheres," I wrote.   [ Negative Pressure ]
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            .  801a137c-08b5-475e-8838-74774acd07a6@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  9502d586-dbba-4733-b37d-b199c7e1561a@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  f0024489-017d-4e54-ad29-b1a4ee563a92@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  846fc763-9056-4ee1-91c9-d333654a3bc1@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  3688f0af-c0af-4d6b-a594-1e468245b7c8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--3.51pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3/3|108 Top; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Oct  7 {  2:22pm, 2017 }:59^(PDT)  Wɯɝй
      Cylindrical waves in euclidean space.

> > I have never found a book where Einstein had gravity going by waves.
> 
> I think Einstein at first said they were impossible.  
> Then he backtracked somewhat.  
> But I am not sure he ever full heartedly supported the idea. 

After much prodding, Einstein found the solution.
Quoting " On gravitational waves " by Albert Einstein, January 1937:

  After encountering relationships which cast doubt on the existence 
  of rigorous solutions for undulatory gravitational fields,
  we investigate rigorously the case of cylindrical gravitational waves.

  It turns out that rigorous solutions exist and that the problem reduces
  to the usual cylindrical waves in euclidean space.  
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  or35uj$197e$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JamesMcGinn  032bdaed-9e72-432c-8f4b-5bdc3267df00@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  1a893298-dc84-4304-86a4-0c6c5c5d6740@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  4c1a2b53-59ca-4fc6-94b2-10bfd9369969@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--4.59pm.Seattle.2017
    MrAA  d7981702-da38-4700-b772-66112eea93e8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.7--3.30pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/3|108 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Oct  7 {  2:14pm, 2017 }:19^(PDT)  Wɯɜʋ
      Human milk tastes horrible, sweet and thin.

> > Whale milk contains so much fat that it has the consistency of toothpaste.
> 
> How did it taste?

I can't tell you, I couldn't even find a photo of it.

Human milk tastes horrible, sweet and thin.
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              pnalsing@gmail_com  732fb01d-058a-460b-a095-d836f81567f4@googlegroups.com
            JamesMcGinn  a937b26d-b2c9-43a7-82e3-97a6eeb32e42@googlegroups.com
          Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  or35uj$197e$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JamesMcGinn  032bdaed-9e72-432c-8f4b-5bdc3267df00@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  1a893298-dc84-4304-86a4-0c6c5c5d6740@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  4c1a2b53-59ca-4fc6-94b2-10bfd9369969@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.6--4.59pm.Seattle.2017
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1/1|106 Top; 6.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Oct  6 {  4: 4pm, 2017 }:43^(PDT)  WɮϖЩ
      Whale milk contains so much fat that it has the consistency of toothpaste.

Whale milk contains so much fat that it has the consistency of toothpaste.
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        .  801a137c-08b5-475e-8838-74774acd07a6@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  9502d586-dbba-4733-b37d-b199c7e1561a@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  f0024489-017d-4e54-ad29-b1a4ee563a92@googlegroups