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              .  q8f1fn$ktl$1@gioia.aioe.org
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          .  q8hhn3$dr3$46@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--1.06am.Seattle.2019
      BranimirMaksimovic  rY1rE.171643$XY4.10620@fx32.am4
    MrChrisV  vqepaeht3sg6lbl2c0d2ilna0bnpk3fa8l@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--8.48am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m283 Dropped; 4.5 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Apr  9 {  8:35am, 2019 }:38^(-5)  XɵZრ
      I'm an idiot who happens to know geniuses.

MrChrisV wrote:
> Relf's admitted that it's "job security" [ 30 years ] for him, 
> to produce [ shit that others can't ].

Lots of people have tried, including Microsoft Visual Studio employees,
and programmers in India... none have succeeded.

I'm an idiot who happens to know geniuses.

Search for "Jeff Relf " in:

  cdn2.HubSpot.NET/hubfs/197286/BMSim%20Decision%20Manual%202017%20v1.0.pdf
  ABA.COM/Products/Pages/PS98_BankSim.aspx
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              .  q8hhn3$dr3$46@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--1.06am.Seattle.2019
          BranimirMaksimovic  rY1rE.171643$XY4.10620@fx32.am4
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--8.01am.Seattle.2019
      invalid@invalid_invalid(Ï  1o5rxnh.p7vush2jd342N%invalid@invalid.invalid
    Libtard│libtard@sandernistas_  q8idr7$utr$3@news.mixmin.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--8.39am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 2.4 Minutes, Progressivism_1_1_42, Mixmin.NET,  Apr  9 {  8:30am, 2019 }:48  XɵZm
      What's funny about documentation ?

Libtard replied ( to the moron who snipped the context ):
> > >  Re: Documentation of my code, Search for "Jeff Relf " in:
> > >   cdn2.HubSpot.NET/hubfs/197286/BMSim%20Decision%20Manual%202017%20v1.0.pdf
> > >   ABA.COM/Products/Pages/PS98_BankSim.aspx
> > 
> > Why would anyone ever do that?
> 
> They needed a good belly-laugh?

What's funny about documentation ?

If you know what the code does, you can rewrite it, source code or not.

Banks  own/run  this country.
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              TheSnitBot  gh1bulF6mv1U3@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.22am.Seattle.2019
          TheSnitBot  gh1p5dF9jjfU3@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.30pm.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  gh2km2Ff8vdU1@mid.individual.net
    TheSnitBot  gh3rekFnfurU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--8.28am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m323 Dropped; 3.4 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Apr  9 {  8:18am, 2019 }:44  XɵXi
      Suffering, Meaninglessness, and Evil.

TheSnitBot wrote:
> > I believe in equal rights.
> 
> Jeff snipped and ran from this. 

Your jealousy has consumed you, and it can lead to nothing but
Suffering, Meaninglessness, and Evil.

Desire and Ignorance lie at the root of suffering.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
            .  q8f1fn$ktl$1@gioia.aioe.org
          .  odomaep9cquj4hh2sti1jbqv734g3iifjj@4ax.com
        .  q8hhn3$dr3$46@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--1.06am.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  rY1rE.171643$XY4.10620@fx32.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--8.01am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m39 Top; 3.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Apr  9 {  7:26am, 2019 }:31  XɵOʗ
      Miss Nadegda criticized code she's never seen.

Branimir Maksimovic replied ( to me ):
> > Software is judged by what it does, not by its source code.
> 
> Only for [ short-term ] code...

No, I'm talking about code that's been around for 30 years,
maintained by me.   What my code does is _ EXTREMELY _ well documented**;
in comparison, the source code is irrelevant, undocumented.

If you know what my code does, you can rewrite it,
even without the source code.

**:  Search for "Jeff Relf " in:
  cdn2.HubSpot.NET/hubfs/197286/BMSim%20Decision%20Manual%202017%20v1.0.pdf

  ABA.COM/Products/Pages/PS98_BankSim.aspx

> > You don't have the first clue as to what "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM" might do.
> 
> Why should I ?

I was talking to Miss Nadegda.
Nadegda criticized code she's never seen.
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              MsNadegda  q8bohi$dr3$25@dont-email.me
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  mkujaeh19gkdhocj4d79f0jdbq3ungse0i@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  q8f1fn$ktl$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  odomaep9cquj4hh2sti1jbqv734g3iifjj@4ax.com
    MsNadegda  q8hhn3$dr3$46@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.9--1.06am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m76 Cool; 25.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Apr  9 {   :30am, 2019 }:43  Xɴщh
      Learn to code.

MsNadegda replied ( to Greg ):
> > Why do you feel justified in belittling [Relf's] efforts?
> 
> Go take a look at the "source code", if I may use that term so loosely; 
> yeah, he actually posted it online.  Then you will understand

Learn to code. Software is judged by what it does, not by its source code.
You don't have the first clue as to what "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM" might do.
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              SteveCarroll  17e256ca-1872-4a3f-9c29-f9a343bf7114@googlegroups.com
            TheSnitBot  gh1bulF6mv1U3@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.22am.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gh1p5dF9jjfU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.30pm.Seattle.2019
    TheSnitBot  gh2km2Ff8vdU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--11.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m321 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Apr  8 {  9:17pm, 2019 }: 5^(-7)  XɴШп
      These desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".

TheSnitBot replied ( to me ):
> > You're filthy rich, compared to your ancestors;
> > yet you're still complaining, like a hungry chick.
> > 
> > " The love of money is the root of all evil " -- 1 Timothy 6:10.
> > 
> > " Whoever loves money never has enough;
> >    whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income.
> >    This too is meaningless. " -- Ecclesiastes 5:10
> > 
> > Quoting PBS' " Basics of Buddhism ":
> > 
> >    In Buddhism, desire and ignorance lie at the root of suffering.
> > 
> >    By desire, Buddhists refer to craving pleasure, material goods,
> >    and immortality, all of which are wants that can never be satisfied.
> > 
> >    As a result, desiring them can only bring suffering.
> 
> I believe in equal rights. 

You're vastly richer than your ancestors, and those in Africa and India;
yet, still, you feel weak and powerless -- you lust after money&power.

For thousands of years, all around the world, holy men have told us
that these desires lead to "suffering", "meaninglessness", and "evil".
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              MrChrisV  hehmaet5i8v8acag6g1618dksdvc1agr86@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  c65c660b-9788-4997-b8cc-8f018a4c96b5@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  c0c57596-e690-4ef5-b44d-a29c4a3db387@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  atKqE.26903$lJ7.20465@fx12.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.13am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  sLPqE.232682$Y49.189259@fx46.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 13  m548 Mad; 4.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  3:16pm, 2019 }:56^(-4)  Xɴχж
      Andrzej Matuch is a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.

AndrzejMatuch replied ( to me ):
> > Trump is a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.
> 
> you're a waste of skin

You say that to everyone outside your cult.

We're all going to hell, you're going to heaven.

Like Trump, you're a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.
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              Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  25239c85-66d1-4b3f-add4-efd5111ab05d@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.19am.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  17e256ca-1872-4a3f-9c29-f9a343bf7114@googlegroups.com
        TheSnitBot  gh1bulF6mv1U3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.22am.Seattle.2019
    TheSnitBot  gh1p5dF9jjfU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.30pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m320 Dropped; 6.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Apr  8 {  1:27pm, 2019 }:25  Xɴεζ
      The love of money is the root of all evil.

TheSnitBot replied ( to me ):
> > > Trickle down is killing the country.
> > > We *HAVE* to move past that idiocy.
> > 
> > you say this because you feel weak and poor.
> 
> [it's] not about feelings, [it's] economics and equal rights.

You're filthy rich, compared to your ancestors;
yet you're still complaining, like a hungry chick.

" The love of money is the root of all evil " -- 1 Timothy 6:10.

" Whoever loves money never has enough; 
  whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income.
  This too is meaningless. " -- Ecclesiastes 5:10

Quoting PBS' " Basics of Buddhism ":

  In Buddhism, desire and ignorance lie at the root of suffering.

  By desire, Buddhists refer to craving pleasure, material goods,
  and immortality, all of which are wants that can never be satisfied.

  As a result, desiring them can only bring suffering.
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              BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
            MrChrisV  33fmaetkh26qbucjm2g9fp6rsj7dsff92r@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  ZRHqE.129110$UN2.28827@fx04.iad
        SteveCarroll  1b29f587-7595-41ef-8b36-3b13fe9c6581@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.45am.Seattle.2019
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  1fbfb323-1bda-453c-bd91-0158c28ec31b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m51 Cool; 8.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  8 { 11:19am, 2019 }:29^(PDT)  XɴΘə
      I don't lust after money or power.

Me_Sham replied ( to me ):
> > Like Frank Sinatra, I did it _ my way.
> > You pussy whipped "men" have no idea, trust me.
> 
> Frank Sinatra got more pussy before breakfast 
> than you ever will in your life.

I did it _ my way, not Frankie's way.

Unlike Frank, I don't lust after money or power, as a woman would.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
            HerbertGlazier  549e6a1a-6d43-4f7d-b3a6-3e4a8f20331d@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  1d49590e-2ddb-4a7a-b7d7-0acadf03d2ea@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  5a3d5eb7-bf97-488c-b665-5c85219bd2a7@googlegroups.com
      MrAA  609e5c47-7c4b-4b36-94d7-1e89705b2291@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  31ccfe72-bd42-4c5d-ae72-70ea8e1eedda@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--7.55pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 12  m315 Top; 3.4 Hours, GoogleG, 172.249.156.65,  Apr  8 {  4:13pm, 2019 }: 7^(PDT)  XɴϘȹ
      Pee-Arie.

Bert:
> Pee-Arie does not like me.

That's because you kept beating him every time he stood up.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.05am.Seattle.2019
            AndrzejMatuch  8PJqE.80253$Bg3.12019@fx21.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.39am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  q7KqE.73597$2P1.42088@fx10.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.39am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  r%KqE.439821$RX7.160675@fx47.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.39am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m536 Mad; 27.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  9:52am, 2019 }:38^(-4)  XɴʨФ
      Not everyone has to be the same.

AndrzejMatuch replied ( to me ):
> > You might be smart enough to run Linux,
> > but you're not smart enough to run Windows.
> 
> I have trouble seeing someone who defecates in a bucket
> as being "smart," I'm sorry.

You are who you are, no need to apologize;
not everyone has to be the same.

I shit into a soup ladle, and piss into measuring cup;
from there, it goes into a ( well sealed ) Vittles Vault.
Once every 5 weeks, I empty it into a contractor bag, for the dumpster.

> Reading books is not a female thing.
> I enjoy reading a crapload of books when I'm on vacation.

Ask your wife what she thinks about that.
She loves it, I guarantee it; I'm nothing like her.

> > Your standards are nothing like mine, that's for sure.
> 
> I refuse to have sex with fat/ugly people.

I enjoy heterosexual porn but, since 1991, Seattle, when I got my vasectomy,
I haven't wanted the real thing; so I'm no longer under a woman's thumb.
Typically, women are into money and power; not me.
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            AndrzejMatuch  8PJqE.80253$Bg3.12019@fx21.iad
          Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  25239c85-66d1-4b3f-add4-efd5111ab05d@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.19am.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  17e256ca-1872-4a3f-9c29-f9a343bf7114@googlegroups.com
    TheSnitBot  gh1bulF6mv1U3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.22am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m319 Dropped; 38.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Apr  8 {  9:41am, 2019 }:56^(-7)  Xɴʦჲ
      I feel rich and powerful.

TheSnitBot:
> Trickle down is killing the country.
> We *HAVE* to move past that idiocy.

You say that because you feel _ extremely weak and poor;
in contrast, I feel rich and powerful.
I earned, and spent, 3,000$ last year, after S.S. taxes.
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              AndrzejMatuch  5KJqE.80250$Bg3.57567@fx21.iad
            MrChrisV  r4qmaethbd69dp0hineae8o5tggmpp776k@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  f6KqE.73596$2P1.21303@fx10.iad
        SteveCarroll  7a9cab9d-1c4d-4e97-8ce5-33fdac253d14@googlegroups.com
      AndrzejMatuch  cwKqE.26904$lJ7.20190@fx12.iad
    SteveCarroll  636069eb-8924-429d-a14c-749d590d28ea@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m185 Mad; 3.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  8 {  9:37am, 2019 }:31^(PDT)  Xɴʦɛ
      The can't laugh at themselves because they can't see themselves.

The mainstream media is obsessed with Trump; 
it's all they ever think about.

As a result, they can't see their own faults.
The can't laugh at themselves because they can't see themselves;
Trump is blocking their view.
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              MrChrisV  jjemael9am7fk5iovpabtlnm1fr0lf015o@4ax.com
            HughHuntzinger  7cb25b66-eb5d-4ce5-a4ae-e10111d9fe51@googlegroups.com
          MrChrisV  hehmaet5i8v8acag6g1618dksdvc1agr86@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  c65c660b-9788-4997-b8cc-8f018a4c96b5@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  c0c57596-e690-4ef5-b44d-a29c4a3db387@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  atKqE.26903$lJ7.20465@fx12.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--10.13am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m532 Mad; 24.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  9:16am, 2019 }: 6^(-4)  Xɴʢϴ
      I don't need it.

AndrzejMatuch replied ( to SteveCarroll ):
> > capitalism not working [for] vast majority of people
> 
> Relf was just mad that nobody in their right mind would hire him.

If you think I'm left-wing, you're completely nuts.
Trump is a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.

Power and Money drives the Democrats' apocalypse cult;
they vilify "Big Tobacco", "Big Oil", and "Big Video" 
to get even richer off poor people/"sinners".

Women&Democrats  lust for power and money; 
I'm nothing like that, because I don't need it.

I manage a 32 unit rooming house.

I've never been "mad" about not getting a job or money.
I've worked for "The Bankers" (ABA.COM), last 27 years;
I think I even quoted parts of my contract here.
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              AndrzejMatuch  64JqE.439819$RX7.81959@fx47.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.05am.Seattle.2019
          AndrzejMatuch  8PJqE.80253$Bg3.12019@fx21.iad
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  25239c85-66d1-4b3f-add4-efd5111ab05d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.19am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  17e256ca-1872-4a3f-9c29-f9a343bf7114@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m185 Mad; 1.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  8 {  9:39am, 2019 }:28^(PDT)  Xɴʦι
      I posted it first, 3 weeks ago.

> Did you see this link (that I posted recently)?
> " Seattle is Dying " by KOMO TV, Mar 17, 2019
> YouTube.COM/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw   Yikes!

Of course I did, I posted it first, 3 weeks ago.

I repeat, repeat, repeat:

  In the Philippines, President Duterte enlists 
  vigilantes to kill druggies ( kids are slaughtered );
  freeing the cops to  make/sell  meth at a nice profit.

  Meth is bad but prohibition is a hundred times worse;
  so, in Seattle, drug dealers run free, without consequence.

  Around 400 BC, Athens Greece, slaves were your property;
  you were free to do whatever you wanted with them, like a car.

  Today, you can't get anyone to do anything,
  not even "your" wife and kids.

  Even Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world,
  can't "purchase" a new wife, unused -- women aren't property.

  The story is quite different in the poorest parts of Africa,
  where the " kids per woman " ratio is the highest.

  City women don't breed near as much;
  and the richest cities, such as Macau and Singapore,
  have the fewest " kids per woman ".
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            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
        MrChrisV  33fmaetkh26qbucjm2g9fp6rsj7dsff92r@4ax.com
      AndrzejMatuch  ZRHqE.129110$UN2.28827@fx04.iad
    SteveCarroll  1b29f587-7595-41ef-8b36-3b13fe9c6581@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.45am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m185 Mad; 38.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  8 {  9: 2am, 2019 }:43^(PDT)  Xɴʠʣ
      I did it _ my way.

SteveCarroll:
> any woman who can cope with [Relf's] Vittles Vault and 
> [his] definition of 'spooning' is a REAL woman in my opinion ;)

Like Frank Sinatra, I did it _ my way.

You pussy whipped "men" have no idea, trust me.
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              MrChrisV  sdmmaepnllnq3rbnlg48lad0o64d813fd9@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  64JqE.439819$RX7.81959@fx47.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.05am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  8PJqE.80253$Bg3.12019@fx21.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.39am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  q7KqE.73597$2P1.42088@fx10.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.39am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m529 Mad; 1.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  8:52am, 2019 }:54^(-4)  Xɴʞд
      You're not smart enough to run Windows.

AndrzejMatuch replied ( to me ):
> > Seattle is the home of Boeing, Starbucks, Microsoft, UPS, and Amazon.
> 
> A plane that falls out of the sky, 

Boeing moved its headquarters to Chicago, to save money;
what did you expect ?

> the worst coffee money can buy, 

Agreed, but you can't deny their $$ success $$.

> a shoddy operating system that spies on the user, when it works

User error, I have no such problems.
You might be smart enough to run Linux,
but you're not smart enough to run Windows.

> a company that engages in electronic book burning.

I'm not a woman; therefore I don't read books or watch TV.

Just today, I bought an 8 quart "Instant Pot" from Amazon, 99$;
it's like a pressure cooker without the noise nor the need for an oven top;
it's also a slow cooker, steamer, rice cooker, yogurt maker, and sauté pan.

I cook a lot of food, all at once; so it lasts for days.
Once it (slowly) warms up, it only takes 30 minutes to cook dry Pinto beans.
It doesn't spill over, like a regular pressure cooker might.

> Like I said, the standards there aren't very high.

Your standards are nothing like mine, that's for sure.
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            MrChrisV  sdmmaepnllnq3rbnlg48lad0o64d813fd9@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  64JqE.439819$RX7.81959@fx47.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.05am.Seattle.2019
      AndrzejMatuch  8PJqE.80253$Bg3.12019@fx21.iad
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  25239c85-66d1-4b3f-add4-efd5111ab05d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--9.19am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m46 Cool; 13.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  8 {  8:40am, 2019 }:33^(PDT)  XɴʜП
      Seattle is shitty, like San Francisco.

Me_Sham:
> I used to live there (Seattle) years ago. 
> Even then it was a shithole, fitting for someone like Relf.

Yeah, Seattle is shitty, like San Francisco.
Rent here ( in my rooming house ) has gone up 44%, last 8 years ( 4.7% APR );
and there's a waiting list of people, hoping to move in.

Abandon ship !
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              HughHuntzinger  7cb25b66-eb5d-4ce5-a4ae-e10111d9fe51@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  hehmaet5i8v8acag6g1618dksdvc1agr86@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  c65c660b-9788-4997-b8cc-8f018a4c96b5@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  BIIqE.89535$DD7.75330@fx05.iad
      HughHuntzinger  8899528c-abda-4942-9cd1-50b1510703b4@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  hJJqE.80249$Bg3.70408@fx21.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.49am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m527 Mad; 8.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  8:25am, 2019 }: 1^(-4)  Xɴʚz
      What you write here would get you banned from Twitter, Facebook.

AndrzejMatuch:
> It's pretty clear that anyone on this newsgroup doesn't have 
> better things to do.  If you go through the effort of finding 
> a way onto a dying medium like Usenet, you don't have much of a life, 
> and I include myself in that equation.

What you write here would get you banned from Twitter, Facebook,
YouTube, Reddit, Wikipedia... you name it.

Try posting the word "Niger" ( the country ) there.

Even if you weren't banned, you'd be ignored;
in contrast, there're are people here who I've known for 15 years.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--7.01am.Seattle.2019
            AndrzejMatuch  ZLIqE.89536$DD7.25917@fx05.iad
          MrChrisV  sdmmaepnllnq3rbnlg48lad0o64d813fd9@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  64JqE.439819$RX7.81959@fx47.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.05am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  8PJqE.80253$Bg3.12019@fx21.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.39am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m527 Mad; 1.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  8:31am, 2019 }:16^(-4)  XɴʛɄ
      Seattle is the home of Boeing, Starbucks, Microsoft, and Amazon.

AndrzejMatuch replied ( to me ):
> > You're unfamiliar with my world (Seattle), and the women in it.
> 
> Well, I imagine that your city is composed of mostly left-wing people 
> which means that intelligence and high standards are in short supply.

Seattle is the home of Boeing, Starbucks, Microsoft, and Amazon.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
          MrChrisV  33fmaetkh26qbucjm2g9fp6rsj7dsff92r@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  ZRHqE.129110$UN2.28827@fx04.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--7.01am.Seattle.2019
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  f1c7bf05-b78a-4512-9a5c-dba47b36f97f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.30am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m45 Cool; 18.2 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  8 {  7:57am, 2019 }: 1^(PDT)  XɴʕΖ
      Who wants to have sex with grandpa ?!

Me_Sham:
> Women enjoy sex too, believe it or not.

Too right, you got that straight !
Modern women aren't engaging in it, not like before.

When they do, it doesn't result in babies;
instead, it's like a (sterile) doctor's visit, 
complete with rubber gloves and a big-ass bill.

Want to have some (sterile) "fun" in a legal brothel ?
Better bring 6,000$ ( to get started ).

"Charlotte Sartre":
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=M5gooSIkazw

> They just aren't interested in doing it with you. 

Duh ! I've been telling you that, repeatedly.
Who wants to have sex with grandpa ?!
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              MrChrisV  33fmaetkh26qbucjm2g9fp6rsj7dsff92r@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  ZRHqE.129110$UN2.28827@fx04.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--7.01am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  ZLIqE.89536$DD7.25917@fx05.iad
      MrChrisV  sdmmaepnllnq3rbnlg48lad0o64d813fd9@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  64JqE.439819$RX7.81959@fx47.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.05am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m522 Mad; 10.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  7:41am, 2019 }: 6^(-4)  Xɴʒр
      I don't expect you to understand.

AndrzejMatuch:
> I would have believed that Jeff Relf is popular with the female 
> cockroaches who live in his apartment but not much else.

I don't expect you to understand.
You're unfamiliar with my world (Seattle), and the women in it.
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              BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
            MrChrisV  33fmaetkh26qbucjm2g9fp6rsj7dsff92r@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  ZRHqE.129110$UN2.28827@fx04.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--7.01am.Seattle.2019
      AndrzejMatuch  ZLIqE.89536$DD7.25917@fx05.iad
    MrChrisV  sdmmaepnllnq3rbnlg48lad0o64d813fd9@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--8.00am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m276 Dropped; 23.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Apr  8 {  7:27am, 2019 }:36^(-5)  Xɴʐρ
      Only a snit could ignore the context when it's in the line above.

MrChrisV replied ( to me ):
> > > The only way MrChrisV can flex is to take everyone out of context,
> > > to make them look silly.
> > > 
> > > I'm popular with the ladies because I'm not trying to fuck them;
> > > I treat them like dignified women, not toys.
> 
> Relf, no "context" exists where your claiming to be 
> "popular with the ladies" is not funny.

Only a snit could ignore the context when it's in the line above.

Also, you're not even making sense.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--11.04pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q87i7k$7k3$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
      MrChrisV  33fmaetkh26qbucjm2g9fp6rsj7dsff92r@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  ZRHqE.129110$UN2.28827@fx04.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--7.01am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m71 Cool; 32.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  8 {  6:17am, 2019 }:45^(-4)  Xɴʄყ
      I treat them like dignified women, not toys.

The only way MrChrisV can flex is to take everyone out of context,
to make them look silly.

I'm popular with the ladies because I'm not trying to fuck them;
I treat them like dignified women, not toys.
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        Kensi  q86guj$1m0g$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3710acedff2d74ce1e20@news.eternal-september.org
    Trevor_Wilson│trevor@rageaudio_  gh0jpkF1grtU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--4.16am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET,  Apr  8 {  2:49am, 2019 }:45^(10)  Xɴɢɩ
      Stupid Democrats.

Trevor_Wilson replied ( to Skeeter ):
> > > [ Obama's Climate Change committee disbanded ]
> > 
> > nobody cares
> 
> [only] stupid people don't care.

Speaking of stupid...

Power and Money drives the Democrats' apocalypse cult;
they vilify "Big Tobacco", "Big Oil", and "Big Video" 
to get even richer off poor people/"sinners".
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              MsNadegda  q8bohi$dr3$25@dont-email.me
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  mkujaeh19gkdhocj4d79f0jdbq3ungse0i@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
        Kensi  q8f1fn$ktl$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--1.48am.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  q8f3ko$umb$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--3.58am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m109 Top; 1.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  8 {  2:18am, 2019 }:16^(2)  XɴɝG
      The "From:" line should specify a website, not an email address.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > You have no idea how powerful "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM" is in my hands.
> > I'm not selling it, so I don't have to compromise it.
> 
> Except no-one wants your useless x.whatever

Correct.

> you can't sell it

Why would I sell it ? I don't need the money; I need the power.
You've no idea  why|how  it's powerful.

> you can't change it out from under people like you fantasized earlier,

Your strawman is stupid shabby; 
I never said I wanted to fuck people over.

> all you can do is use it yourself,

Yes.

> tripping over its various bugs

If it had a bug, I'd just fix it. I upgrade it at will, no problem.
Just yesterday, I changed how the slide-show function works.

> foaming on usenet whenever anyone makes fun of it

You don't know what it is; it's not just a newsreader.

> the malformed "From:" line it generates.  *snicker*

The "From:" line should specify a website, not an email address;
no one will ever convince me otherwise.
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              BenJacoby  q8aq6k$dnk$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  07faa7f2-2dba-4ea5-a3b7-385e822a01b5@googlegroups.com
          MsNadegda  q8bohi$dr3$25@dont-email.me
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  mkujaeh19gkdhocj4d79f0jdbq3ungse0i@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
    Kensi  q8f1fn$ktl$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--1.48am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m108 Top; 8 Secs, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  8 {  1:41am, 2019 }:26^(2)  Xɴɖე
      I don't have to kowtow to other people's desires.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > Imagine being the author of a useful app;
> 
> Well, that's all you *can* do, isn't it ?  Imagine.
> And putter around fiddling with your useless x.exe
> "newsreader" software, which no-one else will ever want to use.
>    *snicker*

You have no idea how powerful "X.ZIP" is in my hands.
I don't care about money; 
so I don't have to kowtow to other people's desires.

You don't know what it's like, but I do.  Power.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.8--1.34am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
      You can't get anyone to do anything.

In the Philippines, President Duterte enlists 
vigilantes to kill druggies ( kids are slaughtered );
freeing the cops to  make/sell  meth at a nice profit.

Meth is bad but prohibition is a hundred times worse;
so, in Seattle, drug dealers run free, without consequence.

Around 400 BC, Athens Greece, slaves were your property;
you were free to do whatever you wanted with them, like a car.

Today, you can't get anyone to do anything,
not even "your" wife and kids.

Even Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world,
can't "purchase" a new wife, unused -- women aren't property.

The story is quite different in the poorest parts of Africa,
where the " kids per woman " ratio is the highest.

City women don't breed near as much;
and the richest cities, such as Macau and Singapore,
have the fewest " kids per woman ".
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3711bba086984d591e56@news.eternal-september.org
            MsNadegda  q893j7$dr3$8@dont-email.me
          BenJacoby  q8aq6k$dnk$1@gioia.aioe.org
        roll│jfwaldby@gmail_com  07faa7f2-2dba-4ea5-a3b7-385e822a01b5@googlegroups.com
      MsNadegda  q8bohi$dr3$25@dont-email.me
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  mkujaeh19gkdhocj4d79f0jdbq3ungse0i@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    -Dropped, 14.7 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Apr  7 {  6:30am, 2019 }:43^(-4)  XɳϽh
      Power.

Sir_Greg:
> computer game coding is not a high-paying job;
> any old pimple-faced teenage geek can do it.

Imagine being the author of a useful app;
you'd be able to change anything you wanted, any time.
That is power.   I love it.
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            HerbertGlazier  b87470ea-5f1e-4a19-9555-87f66dfb9452@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  7bde8a4f-75da-47dc-85d5-559c7943d2d1@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  f49d3f51-2a0d-46e8-b6b0-ad2a2caeabcb@googlegroups.com
      MrAA  67d9c204-ad3e-45af-9df6-217112fb43f9@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  f6296fbd-1eb0-4715-9abf-88a371899495@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--3.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m312 Top; 3.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 64.134.221.60,  Apr  7 {  3:14pm, 2019 }:54^(PDT)  Xɳფʮ
      The resurrection myth.

Jesus was so well loved, by so many, including Mary,
that one of them probably saved him before he finished dying on the cross;
hence the resurrection myth.
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          HerbertGlazier  b87470ea-5f1e-4a19-9555-87f66dfb9452@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  7bde8a4f-75da-47dc-85d5-559c7943d2d1@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  f49d3f51-2a0d-46e8-b6b0-ad2a2caeabcb@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  67d9c204-ad3e-45af-9df6-217112fb43f9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.7--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m88 Top; 8.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Apr  7 {  2:16pm, 2019 }:16^(PDT)  XɳლϾ
      Holy men.

MrAA replied ( to Bert ):
> > Jesus Had lots of friends [ male and female ].
> > In today's time, he could marry Peter and live in Boston.
> > Lots do.
> 
> When was the last time you read a Bible, Bert ?

Bert's more into the sci-fi thing, not the Torah.

Throughout history, lots of "holy men" 
were neither gay nor heterosexual.

I enjoy heterosexual porn but 1991, Seattle, after my vasectomy,
was the last time I was interested in the real thing.
Typically, women are into money and power; not me.
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              MsNadegda  q89254$dr3$6@dont-email.me
            Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3711bba086984d591e56@news.eternal-september.org
          MsNadegda  q893j7$dr3$8@dont-email.me
        BenJacoby  q8aq6k$dnk$1@gioia.aioe.org
      .  07faa7f2-2dba-4ea5-a3b7-385e822a01b5@googlegroups.com
    MsNadegda  q8bohi$dr3$25@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--10.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m73 Cool; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Apr  6 {  7:50pm, 2019 }:26  Xɳʔʒ
      Obese Americans are eating much more than ramen.

MsNadegda replied ( to "roll" ):
> > Anyone can slim down with chicken rice soup !
> > This is what we will be eating under communism in the USA
> 
> And this differs substantially from nearly every American 
> eating Ramen every night, under capitalism, how, precisely ?

Obese Americans are eating much more than Ramen, I assure you.

I earned, and spent, 3,000$ last year, after S.S. taxes;  still, 
I eat TONS of meat, including roast beef, free-range chicken,
sausages, hotdogs, cheese, etc.  Also bananas, chili, Texas toast,
mashed potatoes, pizza, burritos, Swedish meatballs, etc.;
and it didn't cost me a dime, thanks to "food stamps" (SNAP).

Minimum wage is 15$/hour, thanks to people like MsNadegda; 
so I don't eat out, I cook.
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              .  m9shae1mglmi28ql8t5et57tffhjqecppt@4ax.com
            .  ggsgtuF52hiU5@mid.individual.net
          .  jk5iaehbm48dt99n5uuo5p3uqn0sssdpvv@4ax.com
        .  ggskqhF5s7jU3@mid.individual.net
      .  3e9qE.328246$VB3.98672@fx45.iad
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  uPbqE.80767$3f5.74191@fx14.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--6.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m121 Cool; 10.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  6 {  5:50pm, 2019 }:34  Xɳʀʚ
      Authoritarian (Pseudo)Marxism has no game, it's meaningless.

Capitalism is like poker.  Some are enjoying it, others are talented,
and some couldn't give a shit -- but at least there's a game; 
authoritarian (Pseudo)Marxism has no game, it's meaningless.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--9.12am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Samsung/Apple sweat shops on American soil.

Samsung/Apple sweat shops on American soil:
Apr 5, 2019, by Louis Rossmann
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=XjW2tMeO3Mk
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        Kensi  q89bes$rq$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  uvchaephdnvb39h5j5l5u5247q9agru54i@4ax.com
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q8ad2g$hdd$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--8.29am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m126 Cool; 42.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  6 {  7:28am, 2019 }: 6^(-5)  XɳOϴ
      Woe be unto you, sinners, for ye shall be taxed and regulated.

Sin Taxes are very profitable.
If she could, Kensi would make breathing a sin,
so she could tax the hell out of it.

Taxing fuel is the next best thing.

She'll attack "Big Oil", and make the poorest pay.
Lipservice for the poor is not enough; but she thinks it is;
lipservice for tolerance is not enough.

Thus saith our Queen, Kensi:

  Woe be unto you, sinners, for ye shall be taxed and regulated.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--3.05pm.Seattle.2019
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--4.06pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q8916g$kuv$5@gioia.aioe.org
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  Aa1qE.50421$lO2.165@fx30.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.6--6.12am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m130 Cool; 25.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  6 {  5:44am, 2019 }:16  Xɳ7ʈ
      Ben Jacoby's imagination.

RatchetJaw:
> Amazon sex machine ?  I can't wait to hear this one.

Me too, Ben's imagination has no bounds.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.29pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q85v3c$1av8$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--11.04pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q87i7k$7k3$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  JtQpE.226954$wP5.120743@fx36.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m126 Cool; 47.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  5 {  3:17pm, 2019 }:13  Xɲχч
      I listen to them, no charge.

RatchetJaw replied ( to me ):
> > I'm popular with the ladies because I have a vasectomy,
> > I don't try to fuck them, I'm extremely honest,
> > and I've plenty of "adult" (raunchy) stories to tell.
> 
> Are you honest enough with them to let them know you 
> shit in a ladle and dump it into a bucket?

Yes, everyone knows.

> So how much do you pay these ladies to sit and listen to you?

I listen to them, no charge.
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              BenJacoby  q85v3c$1av8$3@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--11.04pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q87i7k$7k3$3@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--3.05pm.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--4.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m169 Top; 58.9 Minutes, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  5 {  3: 5pm, 2019 }:37^(Seattle)  Xɲυჟ
      I do NOT fondle women; no one here is worried about that.

Correction:
I do NOT fondle women; no one here is worried about that.
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              BenJacoby  q7tooa$f8h$2@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  1c25bc27-7945-4fff-b7c8-d9f6ad3c9acd@googlegroups.com
          MitchellRaemsch  5baad774-b281-42a0-be21-8d31e740fbe3@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  28521d23-6388-4a1d-965b-147375bfe37e@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  bbb2434a-66f4-4752-9dfc-5e109842a96a@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  d7d8768d-a73b-429b-9373-71380c24364a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--4.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m85 Top; 2.2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Apr  5 {   :38pm, 2019 }:56^(PDT)  XɲΦΑ
      " In this house, we obey the laws of physics. "  -- Homer Simpson.

> It's hard to imagine ever-vigilant gravity
> loosening its grip for even a moment.

" In this house, we obey the laws of physics. "  -- Homer Simpson.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q85s4p$uia$3@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.12am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q87ihg$9n5$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.10am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q88bmb$1sis$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--3.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 7  m228 Top; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  5 {   :52pm, 2019 }:46^(-4)  XɲΨЬ
      Hello, officer ? There might be some shit in XYZ dumpster.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > Are you and Michael going to fly out here
> > and inspect my dumpster ?
> > What penalties do you have in mind ?
> 
> Innocence by Denial. Yeah that will work in court, Rolf.
> You are so tempting to just drop a dime on.

I'd love to hear that call:

  Hello, officer ? There might be some shit in XYZ dumpster;
  please dig through it, from time to time.

  What laws are being violated ? I have no idea, you tell me.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.59pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q85qo5$q5k$1@gioia.aioe.org
          HerbertGlazier  6705c1f7-dab2-4414-b918-3adbc5b01703@googlegroups.com
        PaulAlsing  9c5dde75-99e2-4e25-9395-d31895be8f31@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.44am.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  c57ac6e8-74ac-43d1-a4ab-a20d9f2585a5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--3.42pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 9  m85 Top; 3.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Apr  5 { 10:58am, 2019 }:17^(PDT)  XɲΔϿ
      Earned Income Tax Credit.

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Self-employed, I paid the IRS 229$ (7%) of the 3,257$ that I earned in 2018;
> > in Seattle, sales tax is 10%; cigarettes are 10$/pack.
> > Typical property tax paid is 4,024$ (1%) per year.
> 
> Between self-employment tax, and federal and state income taxes,
> I was up in the 50% marginal bracket!

No Federal income tax due.
No income tax in Washington state.

If it weren't for the "Earned Income Tax Credit", 
I would've paid about 15% to Social Security. 
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q85s4p$uia$3@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.12am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q87ihg$9n5$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.10am.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q881h4$65d$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--3.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m106 Dropped; 4.8 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Apr  5 {  9:59am, 2019 }:16  Xɲʩъ
      Could you possibly be more vague ?

MichaelMoroney:
> I'm sure Washington state and Seattle have laws regarding what can't
> be landfilled as well as proper disposition of human waste.

Could you possibly be more vague ?

> Doing things that risk diseases in others adversely affects others.

Could you possibly be more vague ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.29pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q85v3c$1av8$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--11.04pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q87i7k$7k3$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q88bjm$1sis$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--3.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m39 Top; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  5 {   :51pm, 2019 }:20^(-4)  XɲΨα
      I fondle women; no one here is worried about that.

> any woman would rather be fondled, and have her hair sniffed,
> by Biden than touch you!

I fondle women; no one here is worried about that.
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              BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.12pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q85qt2$q5k$2@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.45pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q87i03$7k3$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  8021466e-0a3d-49ec-bcad-f59674859205@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m40 Cool; 3.9 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  5 { 10:57am, 2019 }:30^(PDT)  XɲΔλ
      In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Me_Sham:
> Relf watched a podcast, now he's a physics expert. 

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Few people want to know "quantum observability" or general relativity;
I shouldn't be force-feeding it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q85c3f$rv6$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q85s4p$uia$3@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.12am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q87ihg$9n5$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.10am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m220 Top; 2.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  5 {  5:43am, 2019 }:33^(-4)  Xɲɿɝ
      What penalties do you have in mind ?

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > There are worse things in dumpsters, I assure you.
> 
> Other illegal things in the landfill 
> do not negate your crimes, Relf.

It's only a crime in your head, Ben Jacoby.

Are you and Michael going to fly out here 
and inspect my dumpster ?

What penalties do you have in mind ?
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              BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
            AndrzejMatuch  sTspE.82725$DD7.9458@fx05.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.29pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85v3c$1av8$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--11.04pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q87i7k$7k3$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--9.03am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m220 Top; 2.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  5 {  5:38am, 2019 }:16^(-4)  Xɲɾʈ
      I've plenty of "adult" (raunchy) stories to tell.

I'm popular with the ladies because I have a vasectomy,
I don't try to fuck them, I'm extremely honest,
and I've plenty of "adult" (raunchy) stories to tell.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.12pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85qt2$q5k$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.45pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q87i03$7k3$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--8.50am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 8  m220 Top; 2.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  5 {  5:34am, 2019 }:15^(-4)  XɲɽϽ
      Not everyone needs to understand quantum physics.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > Neil deGrasse Tyson, Joe Rogan and I have explained it to you,
> > "Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI", but you chose to ignore it.
> 
> Nobody can argue against "proof" like that!
> I'm STILL an idiot.

Don't be so hard on yourself; 
not everyone needs to understand quantum physics.

> I've no reason to believe any truth. 

True that; I can't, and I shouldn't, force-feed you 
the truth when you neither want nor need it.

> You believe windoze is wonderful. Say no more.

So do you; you're using it right now.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q85l99$1n9$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.59pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85qo5$q5k$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.39pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q87hns$5od$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--7.59am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m38 Top; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  5 {  5:29am, 2019 }:53^(-4)  Xɲɼჯ
      Ben Jacoby's troubles.

Ben Jacoby:
> > Ben Jacoby:
> > > Bert and Relf know the secret is to steal back more than you pay.
> > > Sucks to be honest and moral in leftist America.
> 
> So now you imagine that somehow "I" have trouble.

All you do is bitch about your troubles; 
I don't have to imagine it.

> You're the one who gets to shit into a soup ladle, Relf.

Exactly; meanwhile, you have to get up, walk down the hall,
and occupy the bathroom.  Later, your mom has to clean it.
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              ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
        ScottDoty  ggnpq3F39hkU4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.18pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggo9hnF5irtU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--2.13am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m23 Top; 1.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  4 { 11: 5pm, 2019 }:43  Xɲyქ
      It's ignorance, not magic.

Scott replied ( to me ):
> > Scott, _I_ am the one who understands the Heisenberg Uncertainty
> > Principle ( quantum observability ), not you.
> > 
> > Neil deGrasse Tyson, Joe Rogan and I have explained it to you,
> > "Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI", but you chose to ignore it.
> 
> Yes.

Why are you running from the truth ?

> > In your extreme ignorance, you've:
> > 
> > - Imagined that I (Relf) don't believe in quantum particles.
> 
> Well, do you?

Of course I do; what a stupid question.
Further, I know what they are; you do not.

> > - MisApplied your "quantum" MisConceptions to your life.
> 
> Wrong again.  I'm sure you will be citing a MID 
> to show otherwise, right ?  Except, you can't.

I can, you can't; your strawmen are made of whole cloth.

Quoting you, "ggki80Fac59U2@mid.individual.net":
> In these experiments, the "observation" is to "know" the
> state through any kind of measurement.

No, " Quantum Observability " ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ) means:

   You can't observe a Cooper Pair ( of electrons )
   unless (virtual) photons are hitting it, altering it.
   [ magnetic fields employ virtual photons, quanta ]

> there are situations when a photon or electron _can't_ take _any_
> path to the target...but it arrives there anyway.
> Good luck, and may the force be with you.

You are not a molecule, photons aren't altering your path.
Your inability to observe something creates ignorance, not magic.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q85l99$1n9$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.59pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85qo5$q5k$1@gioia.aioe.org
      HerbertGlazier  6705c1f7-dab2-4414-b918-3adbc5b01703@googlegroups.com
    PaulAlsing  9c5dde75-99e2-4e25-9395-d31895be8f31@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.44am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m33 Cool; 4.6 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  4 {  8:13pm, 2019 }:17^(PDT)  XɲWɅ
      Social Security.

PaulAlsing replied ( to Bert ):
> > Collecting SS is not stealing.
> 
> SS is not an entitlement.  I earned every penny...

Social Security is a money-losing, taxpayer supported, insurance program;
it's a regressive tax.

Self-employed, I paid the IRS 229$ (7%) of the 3,257$ that I earned in 2018;
in Seattle, sales tax is 10%; cigarettes are 10$/pack.
Typical property tax paid is 4,024$ (1%) per year.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q84sjh$hsi$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q85c3f$rv6$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q85s4p$uia$3@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.12am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m103 Dropped; 10.6 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Apr  4 {  2:15pm, 2019 }: 5  XɱლΚ
      Dumpsters.

My blackwater gets put in the dumpster, 
sealed in contractor bags, right before it's picked up;
in the landfill, it doesn't harm anyone.

There are worse things in dumpsters, I assure you.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q84sjh$hsi$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q85c3f$rv6$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85qdg$on6$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.5--1.03am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 8  m211 Top; 11.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {  1:45pm, 2019 }:39^(-4)  Xɱვτ
      46 gallon, 3 mil contractor bag.

BenJacoby asked:
> How does Relf dispose of his "vittles" ?

Once every 5 weeks, I put it in a 46 gallon, 3 mil contractor bag,
then toss it in the dumpster.

> We know how SmellBert does it. 

You knew, at one time, but forgot.

> He pours it down the Walmart Restroom toilets. 

No, he pours it down a street drain.
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              ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
        AndrzejMatuch  sTspE.82725$DD7.9458@fx05.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.29pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85v3c$1av8$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--11.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m33 Top; 7.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {  3: 5pm, 2019 }:36^(-4)  Xɱტპ
      I shit into a soup ladle, and I piss into a measuring cup.

BenJacoby replied ( to me ):
> > I don't shit into an open, stinky bucket.
> 
> your bucket it CLOSED when you try to shit in it?

I shit into a soup ladle, and I piss into a measuring cup;
then it's put in a Vittles Vault -- it's closed 99.9% of the time;
girls spend long hours in my room, no complaints.
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
            .  q84sjh$hsi$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85lna$39t$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.22pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85r12$q5k$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m33 Top; 8.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {  1:56pm, 2019 }: 5^(-4)  Xɱთɽ
      Ben Jacoby runs from the facts.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > I'm nothing like a "conformist", nor a "lefty".
> 
> On the left coast, Rolf, facts do not matter.

Facts matter to you, big time; you run from them.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.08pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.12pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85qt2$q5k$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m33 Top; 8.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {  1:53pm, 2019 }:57^(-4)  Xɱზჳ
      Ben Jacoby MisApplied his "quantum" MisConceptions to his life.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > It's very "New Age hippie dippy" of you to miss-understand
> > "quantum observability" and then try to apply it to your life.
> 
> Gosh I studied graduate level Quantum Mechanics with Mills and Yang
> but you still aren't making any sense at all.

I have no reason to believe that, zero.

Neil deGrasse Tyson, Joe Rogan and I have explained it to you,
"Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI", but you chose to ignore it.
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              .  3c491def-9ac0-4b6e-a74c-0cd3b8db3a43@googlegroups.com
            .  e07f4b18-9d3f-45f2-a901-62c6d8a5a15d@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q85l99$1n9$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.59pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85qo5$q5k$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m33 Top; 8.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {  1:51pm, 2019 }:19^(-4)  XɱზΩ
      I am not the government.

Ben Jacoby:
> Bert and Relf know the secret is to steal back more than you pay.
> Sucks to be honest and moral in leftist America.

I am not the government.
I do not tell them what to do.
If they're "stealing" from you, and you allow it -- that's on you, not me.

You'd be less of a slave if you stopped blaming Bert and me,
and started taking personal responsibility for _your_ troubles.
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              ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
        AndrzejMatuch  sTspE.82725$DD7.9458@fx05.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.29pm.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  t_tpE.52085$mF2.11045@fx01.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 27  m502 Mad; 8.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  4 {  1:42pm, 2019 }: 1^(-4)  Xɱვ1
      Girls spend long hours in my room, no complaints.

> > You continually lie about me to feel better about yourself;
> > I don't shit into an open, stinky bucket.
> 
> Ah, so you close it then.

Yes, my Vittles Vault is closed 99.9% of the time; 
girls spend long hours in my room, no complaints.
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              BenJacoby  q83ksc$10ag$2@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.08pm.Seattle.2019
          ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
    ScottDoty  ggnpq3F39hkU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--10.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +Top, 3.4 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  4 {  6:37pm, 2019 }: 7  XɲGȹ
      Scott Doty MisApplied his "quantum" MisConceptions to his life.

Scott, _I_ am the one who understands the Heisenberg Uncertainty
Principle ( quantum observability ), not you.

Neil deGrasse Tyson, Joe Rogan and I have explained it to you,
"Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI", but you chose to ignore it.
  
In your extreme ignorance, you've:

- Imagined that I (Relf) don't believe in quantum particles.

- MisApplied your "quantum" MisConceptions to your life.
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              BenJacoby  q83ksc$10ag$2@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.08pm.Seattle.2019
          ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
    AndrzejMatuch  sTspE.82725$DD7.9458@fx05.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 7  m484 Mad; 24.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  4 {   :26pm, 2019 }:16^(-4)  Xɱшʈ
      I don't shit into an open, stinky bucket.

AndrzejMatuch wrote:
> Relf routinely reminds us of how great his life is
> because he gets to defecate in a bucket.

You continually lie about me to feel better about yourself;
I don't shit into an open, stinky bucket.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.48am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q82l4l$r54$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q84sjh$hsi$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85lna$39t$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m204 Top; 25.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {   :25pm, 2019 }:32^(-4)  Xɱшɜ
      Ben Jacoby's strawman.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > MichaelMoroney would be the better off in China
> > and/or Russia, where others do the thinking for him.
> 
> Relf doesn't understand that having lefties do 
> your thinking for you is ALWAYS a bad idea.

Your strawman is looking a little shabby.
I was ridiculing Michael's intolerance.
I'm nothing like a "conformist", nor a "lefty".
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.15pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q83ksc$10ag$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.08pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85l0s$lp$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--1.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 5  m204 Top; 37 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {   :13pm, 2019 }:34^(-4)  Xɱцɞ
      New Age hippie dippy.

> > Ben Jacoby is a complete kook, full-on hippie dippy.
> 
> I might answer to "kook" but Hippy ?  Sorry Rolf

It's very "New Age hippie dippy" of you to miss-understand 
"quantum observability" and then try to apply it to your life.
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              The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C91374F.C79@ix.netcom.com
            SamWormley  0e50ce8a-7819-44fa-b433-65af97512e00@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  3c491def-9ac0-4b6e-a74c-0cd3b8db3a43@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  e07f4b18-9d3f-45f2-a901-62c6d8a5a15d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q85l99$1n9$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m204 Top; 32.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  4 {   :18pm, 2019 }: 3^(-4)  Xɱч3
      Sucks to be you.

Ben Jacoby:
> Lucky you live on the LEFT coast where they think that every human 
> derelict is worth saving; so if you need a sudden operation, like Bert,
> they will be required to accept you at the ER, and the rest of us will 
> have to pay your medical bills just like any undocumented "immigrant".

So you admit that you're a slave+pussy, constantly getting robbed ?
Sucks to be you.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.48am.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q82l4l$r54$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q84sjh$hsi$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q85c3f$rv6$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m102 Dropped; 2.4 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Apr  4 {  9:41am, 2019 }:19  XɱЬэ
      Michael Moroney's intolerance.

You (MichaelMoroney) mentioned:
> Trebert (in California) allegedly shits in a bucket

Not true; people are lying to you.
His van has an ordinary toilet + black water tank.
You'll be inspecting it soon, I assume.

> > Ridiculous Dogmas are ignored here, in Seattle.
> 
> What, is your Vittles Vault some sort of protest against toilets, 
> plumbers, the Seattle sewer department or something ?
> 
> I just assumed you were simply a 500 pound blob of protoplasm,
> too lazy to leave his bed.

You're intolerant.
What's the penalty for not meeting your standards ?
"ReEducation" ?  "Disappearance" ?

> > You'd be the better off in China and/or Russia, 
> > where others do the thinking for you.
> 
> Much of rural China still shits in buckets; google "night soil".

Not in the city; about 700 million (60%) live in cities.

> OK, I am a mindless zombie, brainwashed to use toilets,
> by my own mother no less!

Tell her: " Jeff says 'Hi'. ".

> I don't think I could EVER buy a Vittles Vault,

You impose your ideals on me, not vice versa.
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              Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA264D1AEAAEgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
            MrChrisV  f899aehipovqsrdgd7bga5g02h1pmktg6h@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.48am.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q82l4l$r54$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q84sjh$hsi$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.4--8.33am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m101 Dropped; 2.7 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Apr  4 {  5:16am, 2019 }:49  XɱϰЯ
      Ridiculous Dogmas are ignored here, in Seattle.

You (MichaelMoroney) mentioned:
> shitting in buckets and on sidewalks 

A Vittles Vault is not an open, stinky "shit bucket".

How many times must I repeat this, 
before you begin to understand ?!

> the left coast needs to be introduced to 
> this amazing invention called a "toilet". 

Not true, obviously; we're MORE educated then you.

Ridiculous Dogmas are ignored here, in Seattle.

You'd be the better off in China and/or Russia, 
where others do the thinking for you.
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          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C91374F.C79@ix.netcom.com
        SamWormley  0e50ce8a-7819-44fa-b433-65af97512e00@googlegroups.com
      MrAA  3c491def-9ac0-4b6e-a74c-0cd3b8db3a43@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  e07f4b18-9d3f-45f2-a901-62c6d8a5a15d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m304 Top; 9.9 Hours, GoogleG, 172.249.156.65,  Apr  3 {  9:45am, 2019 }:59^(PDT)  Xɱlϟ
      I spent zero dollars on medical care, last thirty years.

Bert:
> Going into hospitals is a waste of time.
> I waited 22 hours so the doctor could jam his finger up my ass (ouch).

I spent zero dollars on medical care, last thirty years.
I could use some dentures.

> Life is not easy when your 91.  Its a time of pain.
> The body has 206 bones and they all hurt.
> Mussel cramps wake me up.

My 15 inch fan died on me, so I installed a 20 incher above me;
I had to move furniture around -- horrible cramps.

> Constipation is constant.

No constipation here; my stools are too soft, too often.

> I walk like I'm 91.

When dragging a heavy wagon up a hill, I now have to rest;
a lot of people know me, it's embarrassing.

> They painted a picture of me at the Anaheim center.  Great painting.

No one would paint me, I assure you.
No one in my life is that sentimental, not even my sister.
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      SamWormley  5e634823-bea1-4c57-aceb-fca4e208f4c1@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  q83l7u$10ag$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--8.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m199 Top; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  3 {  6: 5pm, 2019 }: 7^(-4)  Xɱʂс
      I predict great embarrassment.

LIGO and Virgo coming online is great news;
I predict great embarrassment.
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              ScottDoty  ggimccFtipeU4@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--10.31pm.Seattle.2019
          Kensi  q81nnr$8cs$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.370e7930732aa79c1dfe@news.eternal-september.org
      MsNadegda  q82uqn$fr4$2@dont-email.me
    Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.370ede12e02b8c841e09@news.eternal-september.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m92 Dropped; 4.4 Hours, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG,  Apr  3 {  3:13pm, 2019 }:57^(-6)  Xɱɦɵ
      Kensi and MsNadegda are kooks.

Skeeter replied ( to MsNadegda ):
> > What's your degree in, again, kook ?
> 
> Pointing out kooks.

I have the same degree, from the same university.
Kensi and MsNadegda are kooks.
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              Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tib4$uum$2@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.20pm.Seattle.2019
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA264D1AEAAEgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        MrChrisV  f899aehipovqsrdgd7bga5g02h1pmktg6h@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.48am.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q82l4l$r54$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m101 Dropped; 10.7 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Apr  3 {  8:57am, 2019 }: 9  XɱdΞ
      Under a woman's thumb.

Michael Moroney replied ( to me ):
> > A Vittles Vault is not an open, stinky "shit bucket".
> 
> Civilized people use a toilet.

I can see how you'd say that, if you were under a woman's thumb;
I'm not.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q80qtl$blq$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.15pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q83ksc$10ag$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.08pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggl83bFhdnoU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m43 Top; 11.2 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  3 {  7:22pm, 2019 }:35  XɱʏС
      You're battling someone who doesn't even exist.

ScottDoty:
> Yeah Ben, you're one of those "hippies" who "believes in quarks".
> Perish the thought!

I never said word-one about quarks.
You're battling someone who doesn't even exist.

Ben Jacoby is a complete kook, full-on hippie dippy.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--11.03pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  ggki80Fac59U2@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggl0n8Ffmj0U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--6.59pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggl7j2FgsneU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m42 Top; 4 Secs, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  3 {  7:13pm, 2019 }:54  Xɱʎɲ
      You can't apply it to your ordinary life.

Scott Doty returned to:
> quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality

" Quantum Observability " ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle )
means different observers see things differently.  So what ?!

You shouldn't apply this to anything that's not a quantum particle.
You can't apply it to gravity; you can't apply it thermodynamics;
you can't apply it to your ordinary life.

> And finally, I suggest you go tell "Neil" that you "don't believe
> in quarks" -- what do you think he would say to that, hmmm?

I never said a word about quarks; you said that about me; 
you put those words in my mouth.

> I haven't watched NDT's video, but I'll bet if I do watch it,
> I'll see how you've misunderstood something he said, viewing
> it through your own set of kooky biases.

His language is quite clear; even someone like you,
with your "hippie think", misapplying quantum "logic" left-and-right, 
will understand it.  Neil & Joe are laughing at you.

" Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
            Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q80qtl$blq$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.15pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q83ksc$10ag$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--7.08pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m24 Top; 37.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  3 {  5:58pm, 2019 }:56^(-4)  Xɱʁж
      Joe Rogan and Neil deGrasse Tyson are sick of your "Hippie Think".

Ben Jacoby told me:
> If you are going to join the looney crowd 
> you ought to learn their language.

You mis-apply your warped view of " Quantum Observability "
( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ).

Joe Rogan and Neil deGrasse Tyson are sick of your "Hippie Think".

" Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  ggimccFtipeU4@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--11.03pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggki80Fac59U2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggl0n8Ffmj0U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--6.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m41 Top; 1.3 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  3 {  5:16pm, 2019 }:40  XɱɺЦ
      Hippies who mis-apply pseudo-quantum "logic".

Scott Doty replied ( to me ):
> > " Quantum Observability " ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ):
> > 
> >     You can't observe a Cooper Pair ( of electrons )
> >     unless photons are hitting it, altering it.
> > 
> > " Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
> > by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
> >   Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI
> 
> Now you're repeating your misunderstanding.  Properties like electron 
> spin or photon polarity are measured without "photons are hitting [them]".
> Are you sure you aren't some kind of crank?

Magnetic attraction employs virtual photons; 
everything's quantum at that level of tininess.

It's appropriate that you'd call Neil deGrasse Tyson a crank;
seeing as Neil and Joe think "you"** are a crank.
[ **: hippies who mis-apply pseudo-quantum "logic" ]
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.03pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  ggik8vFtipeU2@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggimccFtipeU4@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--11.03pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggki80Fac59U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--4.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m40 Top; 1.5 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  3 {  1: 9pm, 2019 }:36  Xɱɑρ
      " Quantum Observability " ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ).

Scott Doty showed:
> Lecture 1:  Introduction to Superposition
> 
> In these experiments, the "observation" is to "know" the
> state through any kind of measurement.

No, the issue is: 
  " Quantum Observability " ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ).

You can't observe a Cooper Pair ( of electrons ) 
unless photons are hitting it, altering it.

" Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI

As Neil says, this has to do with QUANTUM particles,
not large objects, like humans.

General Relativity dominates everything, including quantum randomness.
The (4-D) TimeScape is static, eternal; it's both everything and nothing.

ThermoDynamics explains everything, including life.
Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing: the Big Rip.

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", 
by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
            Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  526132fc-083a-4b11-b45d-e967f6161044@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.19pm.Seattle.2019
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  341ab3c3-7c11-4fcc-8264-2247d96d644a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--3.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m32 Cool; 5.8 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  3 {  8:53am, 2019 }:53^(PDT)  Xɱcჯ
      I now pronounce you: " Man and VittlesVault ".

Speaking of buckets, Me_Sham wrote:
> [ The Vittles Vault is ] probably the closest you'll ever get
> to having [ a wife ], I guess. 

I know, right ?!  and she's not very tight, or soft.

On the bright side, she never makes any demands,
and she's always there for me.

I now pronounce you: " Man and VittlesVault ".
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              Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tib4$uum$2@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.20pm.Seattle.2019
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA264D1AEAAEgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        MrChrisV  f899aehipovqsrdgd7bga5g02h1pmktg6h@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.48am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  395812f2-6831-4c82-bfa4-4d6d16afbb70@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--3.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m228 Mad; 7.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  3 {  7:29am, 2019 }:25^(PDT)  XɱOდ
      Poor guy, Poor me, Poor us.

Correction: <<

  This 7 gallon " Vittles Vault pet food storage containter ",
  is not an open, stinky " shit bucket ".  >>

Steve Carroll asked me:
> Have you considered:
>   " Palm Springs 5 Gallon Plastic Portable Flushing Toilet "

No, because I'd rather shit into a soup ladle ( laying in bed ),
then I wipe with a spoon, followed by paper towels.

> > Also, I condemn Democrats more than Trump.
> 
> The question is: Would you vote for him over any Dem candidate?

I've never voted; I'm not about to start now, age 60.

From my point of view, University district, Seattle, 
immigrants are flowing in fast; basic laws are not enforced;
evictions are too prolonged/expensive.

Democrats get rich off " sin taxes " ( crippling the poor ),
pretending to be " the impoverished sinners' best friend ".

Re: Lynn, the 80-year-old with growing dementia and bedbugs.
I tossed out his mattress, blanket and pillow.

I gave him a new mattress, encased in a white, polyester fabric.
I sprayed time-release insecticide around and under the mattress.

I sprayed his new blanket and pillow with alcohol and 
sweet-smelling "Bed Bug Bully" ( a harmless repellent ).

He tells me he's spraying once a week, but I have my doubts.
I told him to clean out all the stuff around his bed, before he sprays.
Poor guy, Poor me, Poor us.
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        AndrzejMatuch  0gSoE.97206$P12.56479@fx08.iad
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q813aj$46p$2@dont-email.me
    AndrzejMatuch  Cm1pE.24816$MH.8631@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.58am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m443 Mad; 41.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  3 {  5: 8am, 2019 }: 2^(-4)  Xɱ1ɺ
      Venezuela's leaders are fat&rich while its people starve.

America doesn't like how Venezuela has sided with China and Russia.
I don't see either side budging much.

Meanwhile, Venezuela's leaders are fat&rich while its people starve;
same with North Korea.
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              Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tg4f$mkr$1@dont-email.me
            MrChrisV  pjh4aehamj3k11kr8etv93jb9e1t4c0u4m@4ax.com
          Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tib4$uum$2@dont-email.me
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.20pm.Seattle.2019
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA264D1AEAAEgreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    MrChrisV  f899aehipovqsrdgd7bga5g02h1pmktg6h@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--5.48am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m36 Dropped; 10.5 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Apr  3 {  5:22am, 2019 }:23^(-5)  Xɱ3Е
      I condemn Democrats more than Trump.

Unable to flex properly, MrChrisV quotes me out of context, saying:
" Oh my God, it's the finest code you'll ever see. ".

I was talking about how a certain "#define" macro
helps me helps me debug my programs.

MrChrisV replied:
> > I was unsure of [Relf]. Now I'm not.
> 
> The fact that he shits in a bucket isn't enough, for you?

A Vittles Vault is not a bucket.

Also, I condemn Democrats more than Trump.
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      .  MPG.370dcae3f3049a881de5@news.eternal-september.org
    Kensi  q819nk$c66$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.3--1.21am.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m109 Top; 4 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  2 {  8:36pm, 2019 }:25^(2)  XɰТP
      What life is, and where it came from.

Scott Doty, Skeeter and Kensi repeated:
" Experimental Rejection of Observer-Independence in the Quantum World ".

Kensi:
> Uh-oh. Jeff Relf isn't going to like this.  *off to make popcorn*

"Quantum Observability" ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle )
explains Kensi's randomness but is irrelevant to General Relativity
and thermodynamics.

You can't observe a Cooper Pair ( of electrons ) 
unless photons are hitting it, altering it.

" Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI

General Relativity dominates everything, including quantum randomness.
The (4-D) TimeScape is static, eternal; it's both everything and nothing.

ThermoDynamics explains everything, including life.
Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing: the Big Rip.

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", 
by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M

Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had 
the power of 695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ); 
since then, the universe has powered down.

The red pill ( harsh reality ):

  "God" ( nature, thermodynamics, evolution ) programmed us;
  " Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness per se;
  we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.

  "God" ( nature, General Relativity ) is static, immutable, 
  changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
  Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).

In conclusion, I explained Kensi's randomness, 
why everything is nothing, what life is, and where it came from.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  ggigliFtipeU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.03pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggik8vFtipeU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggimccFtipeU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--11.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m37 Top; 48.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  2 {  8: 7pm, 2019 }:56  XɰНɴ
      Quantum ignorance doesn't falsify thermodynamics nor General Relativity.

Scott Doty ReShowed:
" Experimental Rejection of Observer-Independence in the Quantum World ".

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle isn't about 
whether a tiny particle was actually observed or not; 
rather, it's about the nature of OBSERVABLE particles.

You can't observe a Cooper Pair ( of electrons ) 
unless photons are hitting it, altering it.

" Neil deGrasse Tyson explains Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle "
by JRE ( Joe Rogan Experience ), Feb, 2017
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
            ScottDoty  ggigliFtipeU1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.03pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggik8vFtipeU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggimccFtipeU4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--10.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m37 Top; 48.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  2 {  8: 7pm, 2019 }:56  XɰНɴ
      Quantum ignorance doesn't falsify thermodynamics nor General Relativity.

Scott Doty ReShowed:
" Experimental Rejection of Observer-Independence in the Quantum World ".

Quantum ignorance doesn't falsify thermodynamics nor General Relativity.
General Relativity and thermodynamics are presumed "true" because:

  1:  They're useful ( to some, sometimes ).
  2:  No one can falsify them (presumably).

> > The red pill ( harsh reality ):
> > 
> >   "God" ( nature, thermodynamics, evolution ) programmed us;
> >   " Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness per se;
> >   we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.
> > 
> >   "God" ( nature, General Relativity ) is static, immutable, 
> >   changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> >   Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 
> That's your _faith_ -- if not, please explain how one can
> "prove" or "disprove" your superdeterministic faith.
> You need a better argument than "because I say so".

I'd tell you, yet again, if I thought you wanted to know.

"Usefulness" triumphs over truthiness all day, every day;
Joseph Smith, a rapacious pedophile, founded Mormonism,
and people glommed onto it because they found it "useful", if not truthy.

"Many (random) Worlds" are useful to pop sci-fi fan boys, such as yourself,
who've taken "the blue pill" ( sweet fantasy, not harsh reality );
you're in good company, a rather large crowd, doing all right.
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              BenJacoby  q80qtl$blq$2@gioia.aioe.org
            ScottDoty  ggicjaFrrpmU3@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
        ScottDoty  ggigliFtipeU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.03pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggik8vFtipeU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m36 Top; 58 Secs, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  2 {  7:32pm, 2019 }:    XɰЗɸ
      The red pill ( harsh reality ).

You ( Scott Doty ) confirmed it, just now, here.

You imagine tiny little particles, flexing their muscles,
like Mighty Mouse, spitting out entire universes, one after another.

Mentally, you live in the quantum world, where entropy doesn't exist,
and your "God" has plenty of shadows to hide in.

Instead of "shut up and calculate", it's "shut up and fantasize".

You ( to me ):
> Superdeterminism is _your_ "god", Sir. 
> It can only be based on faith, because it isn't falsifiable.

The red pill ( harsh reality ):

  "God" ( nature, thermodynamics, evolution ) programmed us;
  " Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness per se;
  we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.

  "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
  changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
  Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
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              Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7ti52$uum$1@dont-email.me
            ScottDoty  ggfj15F8oebU5@mid.individual.net
          SteveCarroll  7e0128f5-c83c-4385-8ea8-0f7c7762f0ac@googlegroups.com
        ScottDoty  ggi9afFrrpmU1@mid.individual.net
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q812t2$46p$1@dont-email.me
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  csUoE.5833$hJ3.829@fx07.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m108 Cool; 5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Apr  2 {  6:59pm, 2019 }:36  XɰБპ
      Collaborators.

On stage, it's Apple;  on the desk, it's Microsoft;
on disability, it's Google (Android/Linux).

To avoid spam ( and faulty spam filters ), collaborators** use
remote, semi-private folders ( "the cloud" ) instead of email.
[ **: including pirates ]
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              Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q80qtl$blq$2@gioia.aioe.org
        ScottDoty  ggicjaFrrpmU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  ggigliFtipeU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--7.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m35 Top; 19.8 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  2 {  6:30pm, 2019 }:26  XɰϽQ
      "Many (random) Worlds".

You ( Scott Doty ) believe in the "Many (random) Worlds" fantasy, right ?

Where every quantum observation creates another "universe".

" Shut up and calculate " is still mainstream science;
yet pop sci-fi fan boys, such as yourself,
transformed it into "Many (random) Worlds".

This is your "subatomic God" ( your God of shadows ) I was speaking of;
tiny little particles, flexing their muscles,
like Mighty Mouse, to spit out entire universes, one after another.
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              .  0d24f6e5-e8c1-4bbe-bd4d-68b4993ab21e@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
          Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q80qtl$blq$2@gioia.aioe.org
    ScottDoty  ggicjaFrrpmU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.33pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism
    ╱ 1  m34 Top; 1.1 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Apr  2 {  5:20pm, 2019 }:59  XɰϱΔ
      Smaller than Mighty Mouse, flexing twice as hard.

There's a surprising number of people here, including Scott Doty,
who seem to think quantum mechanics models the entire cosmos,
negating entropy, and every other law of man or nature.

I call this their "subatomic God" ( the God of shadows ); 
smaller than Mighty Mouse, flexing twice as hard.
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              SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q5i2g2$psk$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Ross_A_Finlayson│ross_  0d24f6e5-e8c1-4bbe-bd4d-68b4993ab21e@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
        Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q80qtl$blq$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--5.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m199 Top; 48.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  2 {  4:23pm, 2019 }:36^(-4)  Xɰϙპ
      What is your subatomic "God" telling you to do ?

Ben Jacoby:
> Relf's subatomic brain can't conceive of anything smaller than atomic.
> True facts just make him laugh!

What is your subatomic "God" telling you to do today, Ben ?
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              .  q5i2g2$psk$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  0d24f6e5-e8c1-4bbe-bd4d-68b4993ab21e@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
        Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  526132fc-083a-4b11-b45d-e967f6161044@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m30 Cool; 13.1 Minutes, GoogleG,  Apr  2 {  3:43pm, 2019 }:  ^(PDT)  Xɰϒy
      I'm a SeniorSitter.

Me_Sham imagined:
> Brilliant physicists spend their days shitting 
> [ into a Vittles Vault ] and scrubbing bed bugs off of old people.
> That Nobel is as good as yours, Relf. 

Please, don't project your hubris onto me.
I never said I was "brilliant", nor a "physicist".
I don't care what the Nobel committee does.

I do "scrubb bed bugs off of old people", and I hate it.
I'm a SeniorSitter.
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              Owl  8b8a9sba.h3ug@rooftop.invalid
            ！SteveCarroll  q7aqde$qmk$1@dont-email.me
          Owl  s80b0ba.3u@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  82189a97-ff70-4fa9-aa10-1fdfb424628e@googlegroups.com
      AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_  q7tbf9$qc1$1@dont-email.me
    SteveCarroll  b55e6b5b-bdb6-4065-92a3-12891ae66350@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m226 Mad; 6.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  2 {  8: 1am, 2019 }:54^(PDT)  Xɰʖɲ
      ChrisV was in charge of the compiler.

SteveCarroll replied:
> > [ Apple hosed its C compiler ]
> > [ if you ignore warnings, "errors" appear ]
> 
> Easy fix: Go down to the courthouse and change your last name to "Relf",
> then, everything "just works" ;)

Sounds like ChrisV was in charge of the compiler.
No "Relf" would use it.
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              .  ef20e5dc-2338-4041-be75-24e47bce1a05@googlegroups.com
            .  6f8265f2-0b21-44a6-b306-eb5e9870574e@googlegroups.com
          .  q5i2g2$psk$1@gioia.aioe.org
        .  0d24f6e5-e8c1-4bbe-bd4d-68b4993ab21e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
    Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q80ibe$150i$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m2 Dropped; 25.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  2 {  1:57pm, 2019 }:17^(-7)  XɰκΧ
      If your "God" is subatomic, you are in real trouble.

Chris Thomasson asked:
> What about so-called zero point energy? Fantasy?

Zero Point Energy is subatomic bullshit, useless.

If your "God" is subatomic, you are in real trouble.
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              MrChrisV  pjh4aehamj3k11kr8etv93jb9e1t4c0u4m@4ax.com
            Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tib4$uum$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.20pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q7ui8f$1pmr$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--10.03pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q802tj$pss$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--3.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m22 Top; 4.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  2 {  9:33am, 2019 }:56^(-4)  XɰʥϜ
      My lifestyle is very "sustainable".

Ben Jacoby wrote:
> no air conditioning

A lot of rooms have air conditioning here, including mine;
even in the winter, I turn on the fan, just for air.

> you'll be living the green new new deal life,
> saving the world! 

No wife, no kids, no car, and I take up VERY little space/time/money.
My lifestyle is very "sustainable".

> And that makes me retarded and you a green genius !

I don't care if you're "green" or not.
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            Ross_A_Finlayson│ross_  6c648cc5-a6da-4ddc-9caf-166236d364ef@googlegroups.com
          Alan_Folmsbee│omnilobe@gmail_  ef20e5dc-2338-4041-be75-24e47bce1a05@googlegroups.com
        Ross_A_Finlayson│ross_  6f8265f2-0b21-44a6-b306-eb5e9870574e@googlegroups.com
      SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q5i2g2$psk$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Ross_A_Finlayson│ross_  0d24f6e5-e8c1-4bbe-bd4d-68b4993ab21e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.2--4.17am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m7 Cool; 44.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 97.126.77.151,  Apr  2 {  3:  am, 2019 }:23^(PDT)  XɰɤN
      Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.

Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing.

Compared to the concordance model ( Lambda-CDM ), the Big Rip 
now seems more likely, given recent evidence from "the quasar era"
that shows that the (growing) Hubble "Constant" was then LESS (72.5)
than one at the ( cosmologically older ) "Type Ia supernova era" (73.24),
and MORE the one at the CMBR (67.66), near the start of the Big Bang.

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", 
by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
  Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M
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              MrChrisV  ju94aeh1e1chmugovivtgoc0gcsp33cteq@4ax.com
            Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tg4f$mkr$1@dont-email.me
          MrChrisV  pjh4aehamj3k11kr8etv93jb9e1t4c0u4m@4ax.com
        Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tib4$uum$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.20pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7ui8f$1pmr$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--10.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m23 Top; 7.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  1 {  7:43pm, 2019 }:33^(-4)  XɰRɝ
      Harming no one but the poor.

Retarded Ben Jacoby spit:
> > Trump flexes like Lil Tay;
> > it's hubris, NAZI style, plus xenophobia.
> > Trump had to import his wife, for Christ's sake.
> 
> In your world Commies are "fine people"

Marxism was hypocritical, right from the start.

Hypocrite Karl Marx impregnated his maid,
( " fuck the workers ", literally ) and made the child a bastard;
all his kids were were horribly neglected.

Capitalist workers have far more rights than
any "worker's paradise" in NAZI China.

Democrats attack "Big Tobacco", harming no one but the poor;
now they're doing the same with "Big Oil" and "Big Video".
Sony and Paul McCartney get a big check, everyone else can suck it.

It's 100% pure hypocrisy, undiluted.

Bill Maher, Hillary's campaign manager,
avoids hypocrisy by not talking about Democrats.
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              MrChrisV  p024aehdjlvtgla9mt1k8cubb58reaqlgu@4ax.com
            Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7t6la$i7r$1@dont-email.me
          MrChrisV  ju94aeh1e1chmugovivtgoc0gcsp33cteq@4ax.com
        Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tg4f$mkr$1@dont-email.me
      MrChrisV  pjh4aehamj3k11kr8etv93jb9e1t4c0u4m@4ax.com
    Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q7tib4$uum$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 1  m4 Cool; 7.5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Apr  1 { 10:38am, 2019 }:43^(3)  Xɯжʣ
      Hubris, Nazi style, plus xenophobia.

Peter Kozlov replied:
> > It's mostly some right-wingers who think 
> > "fuck the rest of the world, we can go it alone."
> 
> Thank you. 

I agree, Trump flexes like Lil Tay;
it's hubris, Nazi style, plus xenophobia.

Trump had to import his wife, for Christ's sake.
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      HerbertGlazier  ba0dc21b-5063-4309-bbd2-6ff92298b8fe@googlegroups.com
    SamWormley  c5843548-bd89-4b1d-acec-c442a6ae9449@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--6.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m55 Cool; 9 Hours, GoogleG,  Apr  1 {  7:57am, 2019 }:56^(PDT)  XɯЛϜ
      Scientists now know a quasar's luminosity.

Sam Wormley recommended:
> " The Inflationary Universe: 
>     The Quest For A New Theory Of Cosmic Origins "
> Published: May 1997

A lot has changed since 1997; 
since 2011, scientists can determine the luminosity (Watts) of AGN
( Active Galactic Nuclei, quasars ).

The Hubble "constant" is growing ( W < -1 ), implying a "Big Rip".

The Hubble "constant":

    CMBR:  67.66
    Quasars: 72.5  Arxiv.ORG/abs/1809.01274
    ( Relatively Recent ) Type Ia Supernova:  73.24 

" Is Dark Energy Getting Stronger ? ", 
by PBS Space Time, Mar 20, 2019:
Youtube.COM/watch?v=tAtVgHvt05M

" Could the Universe End by Tearing Apart Every Atom ? ", 
by PBS Space Time, Mar 28, 2019:
Youtube.COM/watch?v=gEyXTQ9do-c
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        SamWormley  f155ab75-4d83-4c07-b2b7-277ddd6bfa73@googlegroups.com
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5CA270A8.53A2@ix.netcom.com
    BenJacoby  q7u1jn$1kvn$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--5.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m203 Top; 1.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  1 {  2:59pm, 2019 }:23^(-4)  Xɯსბ
      I'll tell you yesterday.

> > > Will time travel ever be invented?

> REAL time travel patents are classified/secret.

No worries, it'll be declassified sometime in 1930.
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          SamWormley  f155ab75-4d83-4c07-b2b7-277ddd6bfa73@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  q7tond$f8h$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--2.26pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7u1se$1npl$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--4.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m206 Top; 2.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  1 {  3: 4pm, 2019 }: 2^(-4)  Xɯტϰ
      Lil Tay is more powerful than your subatomic "God".

Ben Jacoby replied:
> > Lil Tay is more powerful than your subatomic "God".
> 
> Fake rap !

Your "God" flexes more than her, and is much weaker.
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      SamWormley  f155ab75-4d83-4c07-b2b7-277ddd6bfa73@googlegroups.com
    BenJacoby  q7tond$f8h$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.1--2.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 6  m207 Top; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Apr  1 {   :27pm, 2019 }:44^(-4)  Xɯшω
      Lil Tay is more powerful than your subatomic "God".

Ben Jacoby wrote:
> by force of will, lots of strange things could happen, including 
> stopping time and traveling back to a place in the past or future.

Lil Tay is more powerful than your subatomic "God".
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--3.29am.Seattle.2019
    JohnGohde  44404576-22e3-4f4a-b93b-9d97e5eae6a7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--4.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m169 Dropped; 8.6 Hours, GoogleG, 96.228.36.42,  Mar 31 {  8: 3am, 2019 }:36^(PDT)  XɯUρ
      5% of Catholic priests might be pedophiles.

> > " Mormon 'Worthiness Interviews' Shame Children ":
> 
> Mormonism positively is NOT a Christian religion

Christianity isn't a perversion–free zone; 
5% of Catholic priests might be pedophiles.
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      JohnGohde  d6792df2-450f-46b8-a845-6c5f7ec9ae99@googlegroups.com
    JohnGohde  b782cf9a-0521-4c00-9c26-c2bd3237d6ff@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--5.19am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 55.3 Minutes, GoogleG, 96.228.36.42,  Mar 31 {  3:27am, 2019 }:46^(PDT)  Xɮღϑ
      High-Contrast boondoggles.

Speaking of Mate [Linux], JohnGohde wrote:
> Then once I select a different dark background theme, 
> my background image appears.  
> 
> More importantly my computer speeds up significantly 
> and things start moving at a normal speed.  

Sadly, Firefox doesn't show background images 
when using a high-contrast theme ( light text on black );
Sumatra PDF and Chrome have similar problems.

In Windows, high-contrast themes used to slow down videos,
so they'd tear horribly -- 4k videos were impossible;
it got fixed some years ago, I don't recall when or how.

It might've been a Windows update, or maybe a driver update.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.31--3.29am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism
      Mormon 'Worthiness Interviews' Shame Children.

" Mormon 'Worthiness Interviews' Shame Children ":
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=aT-mznqM0Q8  

From 1965, when I was five, up until 1982, when I got married,
every Mormon Bishop/President took me behind closed doors,
to grill me on my masturbation habits; I expected it.

One even asked about my mom's vibrators;
at the time, I had no idea why he was so interested.

Reflecting back, it now seems like something "Peter Pan"
( Michael Jackson ) might do, giggling, behind closed doors.

I've since learned to not be like Mormons ( and Trump** );
i.e. to not be a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.
[ **: as bad as Trump is, Hillary is worse ]

The more "backwards" a society is,
the higher the "kids per woman" ratio.
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              .  q7mo9s$1d08$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  5if4nf-r8p.ln1@mail.specsol.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
        SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q7p0uk$1bmd$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--6.44pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7pisj$1mu6$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--10.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m20 Top; 1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 30 { 10:23pm, 2019 }:32^(-4)  Xɮгლ
      Babysitting isn't fun.

Ben Jacoby told me:
> your building is Toast.  You're not doing enough to prevent
> eventual demolition.  Get some fire insurance, and ...

I've lived here, in this building, since early 2006.
Only once ( or maybe twice ) have I had bedbugs;
I immediately killed them, solving the problem.

But I can't say the same for my less-capable housemates,
the old and/or weak; some over-react, others under-react.

Babysitting isn't fun; I wish I didn't have to deal with it.
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              Kensi  q7mo9s$1d08$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JimPennino  5if4nf-r8p.ln1@mail.specsol.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q7p4ut$1tbl$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--7.12pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7ph0g$1fes$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--10.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m209 Top; 2.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 30 {  9:51pm, 2019 }:29^(-4)  XɮЮκ
      Ben Jacoby's subatomic God.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > BedBugs transmit MRSA.
> 
> Wrong. From WebMD.COM ...

You were right; I was wrong.
There's no evidence that BedBugs transmit MRSA.

> You DESERVE to be taught a lesson via your building
> being infested with these nasty bugs.  Sweet Dreams.

Why, because I didn't pray to your subatomic God ?
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          .  q7mo9s$1d08$1@gioia.aioe.org
        .  5if4nf-r8p.ln1@mail.specsol.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7p4ut$1tbl$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--7.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m16 Top; 24.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 30 {  6:25pm, 2019 }:51^(-4)  Xɮϼɯ
      BedBugs transmit MRSA.

Ben Jacoby:
> In NYC, some tenants are so desperate,
> they're buying illegal "bathtub" DDT

BedBugs eat DDT for breakfast, and ask for more.

> Isopropyl alcohol will kill them,
> but only if you flood them with it.  It's not an insecticide.

Rubbing Alcohol kills about half of them ( and their eggs ),
when you hit them directly, and it stops them from returning;
I think of it as a repellent, like ( sweet smelling ) Bed Bug Bully.

Time-Released Lambda-Cyhalothrin ( Demand CS ) SLOWLY kills them.
Don't touch it when it's wet.

When you heat a room up, to kill the bugs that way,
they're smart enough to crawl away from the danger.

> bed bugs bite but do not carry disease, 

BedBugs transmit MRSA.

> We need someone driven nuts by BBs to shoot up a school

Brilliant, leave it to you to come up with another "final solution".
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          .  q7mo9s$1d08$1@gioia.aioe.org
        .  5if4nf-r8p.ln1@mail.specsol.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q7p0uk$1bmd$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--6.44pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m14 Cool; 55.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 30 {  5:17pm, 2019 }: 9^(-5)  Xɮϰу
      So many people, including the city of Seattle.

SergIo replied:
> > Two of my older tenants ( 65 & 80 ) have reoccurring bedbugs;
> 
> good luck getting rid of them !  it is next to impossible !
> they crawl on the floor 6 to 9 feet way, get into the walls.
> Call exterminator, spray your tenants too.

I can't bug-spray people, that's illegal.

It's too expensive to spray 32 units once a week, for 3 weeks,
and then reinspect everything a month later, then spray more;
furniture has to be destroyed and hauled away, walls torn open.

Success depends on the VALIANT efforts of each-and-every tenant,
MANY of which are unable to ( or unwilling to ) do it;
even the young-and-strong ones fail in a fit of hysteria/despair.

After all that, after evicting weak and/or uncooperative tenants
back into the streets ( where they came from, before me ),
I'd have to do it again, some months later, because bedbugs are 
in someone's car, in his headset, PC, clothes, buses, etc.

Dealing with so many people, including the city of Seattle,
on such an intense-and-intimate level is not my idea of fun.
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      Kensi  q7mo9s$1d08$1@gioia.aioe.org
    JimPennino  5if4nf-r8p.ln1@mail.specsol.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m36 Cool; 6.2 Hours, tin➤Sun, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 30 {  8:45am, 2019 }:41^(0)  Xɮʝφ
      Older Tenants ( 65 & 80 ).

Kensi & JimPennino:
> > bug-borne diseases
> 
> Trivily fixed with pesticides.

Two of my older tenants ( 65 & 80 ) have reoccurring bedbugs;
I have to inspect their rooms periodically, and handle it myself,
as they never seem to notice anything ( much less handle it ).

I use mattress encasements and "CSI Cyzmic CS Controlled Release Insecticide";
but I can't put pesticides on blankets, pillows, computers or headsets;
instead, I spray them with rubbing alcohol and Bed Bug Bully.

Rubbing Alcohol (sorta) kills bugs/eggs, and chases them away;
it's flammable, so careless people shouldn't use it.

Bed Bug Bully is a nice smelling, herbal bug repellent;
it doesn't kill anything.
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            HerbertGlazier  fee459e1-4f19-4345-8ef0-7ea5be3dc46b@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.45pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q7mnck$22n$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.14pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7oma4$1sv4$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--3.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Astronomy, Sci.Physics.Relativity
    ╱ 2  m209 Top; 44 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 30 {  2:15pm, 2019 }:50^(-4)  Xɮνϖ
      Younger galaxies have more "Wattage/power".

Ben Jacoby asked:
> > > > 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had
> > > > the power of 695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).
> > > > Today's Black Holes are much weaker.
> > >
> > > Why would you think that ?
> > 
> > Because it's observed.
> 
> Relf was there 12.5 billion years ago to observe it
> and has returned to keep us all informed. 
> See why I say [I'm] STILL and idiot ?

It took 12.5 billion years for the light to get here;
we see it as it was then, 12.5 billion years ago.

Younger galaxies have more "Wattage/power".
As entropy increases, our universe is getting less "dense/hot/powerful".
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              HerbertGlazier  fee459e1-4f19-4345-8ef0-7ea5be3dc46b@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.45pm.Seattle.2019
          MichaelMoroney  q7mnck$22n$1@pcls7.std.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.14pm.Seattle.2019
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.20pm.Seattle.2019
    PaulAlsing  6a263775-b68d-4d8e-8197-86968337227f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--10.56pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Astronomy, Sci.Physics.Relativity
    ╱ 1  m35 Cool; 60 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 29 {  9:38pm, 2019 }:56^(PDT)  XɮkΑ
      "Active Galactic Nucleus" (AGN) evolution.

Paul Alsing replied:
> > 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
> > 695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).
> > 
> > Today's "Black Holes" (AGN) are much weaker.
> > We see the older ones, and we see the younger ones;,
> > the younger [AGN] are much, much more powerful.
> 
> Reference?

Google "Active Galactic Nucleus" (AGN) evolution.
WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Active_galactic_nucleus#Cosmological_uses_and_evolution

  Most luminous classes of AGN ( radio-loud and radio-quiet )
  seem to have been much more numerous in the early universe.

The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
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        HerbertGlazier  fee459e1-4f19-4345-8ef0-7ea5be3dc46b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.45pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q7mnck$22n$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--9.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Astronomy, Sci.Physics.Relativity
    ╱ 1  m127 Dropped; 45 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Mar 29 {  8:21pm, 2019 }:56  XɮXϜ
      Michael Moroney's "pop sci-fi quantum" (random) religion.

Michael Moroney replied:
> > 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
> > 695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).
> > Today's Black Holes are much weaker.
> 
> Why would you think that ? 

Because it's observed.

  We see the older ones, and we see the younger ones;
  younger quasars are much, much more powerful.

> > The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
> > hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
> 
> Entropy not relevant here, 

Your "pop sci-fi quantum" (random) religion 
has not negated the laws of thermodynamics.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
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              de_chucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_  5cednUoK_cxCUAPBnZ2dnUU7-UmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au
            Owl  szxvc3fu93.afgn@rooftop.invalid
          de_chucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_  aJednbJ4Id_tTwPBnZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@westnet.com.au
        Owl  axc8v03t.ahu@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.35pm.Seattle.2019
    Owl  sz8bz0b.ajgsau@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--8.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m10 Top; 5.3 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 {  7:40pm, 2019 }:33  XɮQП
      Owl has "Snititus" (egomania).

Owl replied ( to me ):
> > Owl moves the goalposts when he's losing;
> > e.g. our compiler warnings arguments.
> 
> So quote me claiming it.

I doubt you're suffering from dementia; 
more likely, you've got "Snititus" (egomania).

  Owl replied ( to me ):
  > > Sinking an aircraft carrier is child's play.
  > 
  > Keep telling yourself that.

> And you lost the moronic compiler warning argument too.

No, I refused to go on, because it was too ridiculous;
right off the bat, you shifted the goalpost 
from undeclared variables to unassigned variables. 

> Probably because [I'm] an idiot.

Yes, that's why I stop talking to you.
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    HerbertGlazier  fee459e1-4f19-4345-8ef0-7ea5be3dc46b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Astronomy, Sci.Physics.Relativity
    ╳ 1  m336 Top; 4.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar 29 {  7:33pm, 2019 }:59^(PDT)  XɮPϟ
      Today's Black Holes are much weaker.

Herbert Glazier:
> Black Holes can only get bigger

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ).

Today's Black Holes are much weaker.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--6.31pm.Seattle.2019
            Owl  sv80830tga.hu4@rooftop.invalid
          de_chucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_  5cednUoK_cxCUAPBnZ2dnUU7-UmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au
        Owl  szxvc3fu93.afgn@rooftop.invalid
      de_chucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_  aJednbJ4Id_tTwPBnZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@westnet.com.au
    Owl  axc8v03t.ahu@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m97 Top; 4.4 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 {  7:23pm, 2019 }:21  XɮNя
      Owl moves the goalposts when he's losing.

Owl & De'Chucka:
> > You claimed they couldn't sink US carriers, they can.
> 
> Where did I claim that ?

Owl moves the goalposts when he's losing;
e.g. our compiler warnings arguments.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--5.54pm.Seattle.2019
            Owl  szb8038ga.4hu@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--6.31pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sv80830tga.hu4@rooftop.invalid
      de_chucka│Dechucka1@hotmail_  5cednUoK_cxCUAPBnZ2dnUU7-UmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au
    Owl  szxvc3fu93.afgn@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--7.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m96 Top; 3 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 {  7:13pm, 2019 }:21  XɮMɑ
      We saw that in Star Wars, 1977.

Owl:
> Directed energy weapons will be online in a few years anyway, 
> and missiles will be obsolete, if they aren't already.

We saw that in Star Wars, 1977; so it must be true.

No aircraft carriers have sunk recently; 
therefore, they're unsinkable (not).
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              MrChrisV  1gcs9e5kn8fg90t4bv1ke2ckhvhs3d0mll@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  V_qnE.45462$vM3.16742@fx15.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--2.14pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  salp8b90z8b083.gah@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--5.54pm.Seattle.2019
    Owl  szb8038ga.4hu@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--6.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m94 Top; 4.4 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 {  6: 7pm, 2019 }: 3  XɮBȵ
      Venezuela has enough oil to keep China and Russian happy.

Owl replied ( to me ):
> > Sinking an aircraft carrier is child's play.
> 
> Keep telling yourself that.

Quoting Kyle Mizokami, March 12, 2019:

  On March 4th, 2015 the French Navy announced in a blog post
  that the submarine Saphir (“Sapphire”) had simulated
  stalking and killing the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt. 

  Not only was the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier "simulated sunk"
  but an unknown number of her escorts. 
  The post was later removed without comment from the blog.  

Quoting Michael Peck, March 21, 2019:

  [ Lou Yuan, deputy chief of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences ]
  told an audience at a Chinese military-industrial conference
  that China could solve tensions over the South East China Sea
  by sinking two U.S. aircraft carriers.

> > China sells to everyone, including Africans;
> > Americans are mostly consumers, not producers.
> > Europe is addicted to Russian gas ( as was Hitler, 1940 ).
> 
> Take the US market out of the equation 
> and watch China's economy collapse.

Walmart and Amazon would go out of business.
Without Russia, where would Europe get its gas from ?

> > America lost North Korea to the Sino-Russian alliance;
> > by themselves, North Korea could do nothing.
> > Same story in Vietnam, 1970.
> 
> Only because we held back in both instances.  
> Let China declare war on the US and it'll be goodbye Hop Sing.

America lost; China + Russia won.

> > Russian soldiers and Chinese money are keeping Maduro in power;
> > a Russian tanker, off the coast of Venezuela, 
> > is helping him refine oil.
> 
> Pissant country.  Nobody cares.

Venezuela has enough oil to keep China and Russian happy.
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              MrChrisV  lbbs9e9pf32681ekf9il5622f1ekjq6rii@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  dkqnE.547477$YR5.413234@fx45.iad
          MrChrisV  1gcs9e5kn8fg90t4bv1ke2ckhvhs3d0mll@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  V_qnE.45462$vM3.16742@fx15.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--2.14pm.Seattle.2019
    Owl  salp8b90z8b083.gah@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--5.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m4 Top; 12 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 29 {  5:28pm, 2019 }: 6  Xɮ4ϴ
      A Russian tanker, off the coast of Venezuela.

> > Russia is aligning itself with China; return of the Mongol Empire.
> > Compared to them, Americans are really soft/useless.
> 
> China and Russia have a combined total of two aircraft carriers

Sinking an aircraft carrier is child's play.

> China's economy is almost entirely dependent on the US market.
> Russia's GDP barely registers as a nation-state.

China sells to everyone, including Africans;
Americans are mostly consumers, not producers.
Europe is addicted to Russian gas ( as was Hitler, 1940 ).

America lost North Korea to the Sino-Russian alliance;
by themselves, North Korea could do nothing.
Same story in Vietnam, 1970.

Russian soldiers and Chinese money are keeping Maduro in power;
a Russian tanker, off the coast of Venezuela, 
is helping him refine oil.
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              MrChrisV  709s9ed6u32b7cq6b33bh0ai21flrr4rq0@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  GPpnE.342179$KB3.177@fx02.iad
          MrChrisV  lbbs9e9pf32681ekf9il5622f1ekjq6rii@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  dkqnE.547477$YR5.413234@fx45.iad
      MrChrisV  1gcs9e5kn8fg90t4bv1ke2ckhvhs3d0mll@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  V_qnE.45462$vM3.16742@fx15.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--2.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m381 Mad; 4.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 29 {  8:39am, 2019 }:46^(-4)  XɭТϑ
      Trump is a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.

Trump is a horny xenophobe who flexes like Lil Tay.

Still, I love him because he makes Democrats look fucking stupid;
he makes mainstream media look fully retarded, brain-dead.

Russia is aligning itself with China; return of the Mongol Empire.
Compared to them, Americans are really soft/useless.
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              Jonathan_N_Little│lws4art  q7g5f3$k2i$1@dont-email.me
            nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  270320191424319128%nospam@nospam.invalid
          Jonathan_N_Little│lws4art  q7ih0f$gto$1@dont-email.me
        nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  280320191003010960%nospam@nospam.invalid
      Jonathan_N_Little│lws4art  q7l49f$bmp$1@dont-email.me
    nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid  290320191541471134%nospam@nospam.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 2  m22 Cool; 38.6 Minutes, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 29 {   :41pm, 2019 }:47^(-4)  Xɭъჩ
      Gimp's user interface, menus and KeyBindings, is more customizable.

I'm a big fan of Gimp; I don't like PhotoShop or Paint.

Gimp's user interface, menus and KeyBindings, is more customizable.
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7k47q$g9d$1@dont-email.me
            BranimirMaksimovic  mQgnE.882997$Apg.695764@fx36.am4
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7kdgp$kli$1@dont-email.me
        BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.5468027989141745285@news.albasani.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.33am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  HLnnE.63612$cR2.29620@fx22.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    +-, 8.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 29 {  4:58am, 2019 }:44^(-4)  XɭϟЪ
      "Mel" (honey) is a CLOSE (female) friend of mine.

Andrzej replied:
> > Branimir Maksimovic replied
> 
> whose handle is attached to that name ?

"Mel" (honey) is a CLOSE (female) friend of mine.

"Branimir Maksimovic" reminds me that he's Serbian MALE, not anonymous.
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7k47q$g9d$1@dont-email.me
            BranimirMaksimovic  mQgnE.882997$Apg.695764@fx36.am4
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7kdgp$kli$1@dont-email.me
        BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.5468027989141745285@news.albasani.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.33am.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  kJqnE.751235$L12.23108@fx02.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m35 Top; 4.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 29 {  8:20am, 2019 }:48  XɭПʨ
      Run "device manager".

Branimir:
> > > Optimal resolution is 5120x2880 on 22" monitor, says windows 10 :)
> 
> I don't think that my monitor supports that resolution.

Run "device manager":

  C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe devMgmt.MSC

Expand "Monitors".
The name/model of your monitor should be listed there;
if it isn't, install the driver.
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            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C9CECDC.5DD2@ix.netcom.com
          .  ff4ffd7f-1468-4762-a5e8-791999949931@googlegroups.com
        The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C9D952B.31B@ix.netcom.com
      Earle_Jones│earledjones@icloud_  2019032821444641893-earledjones@icloudcom
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q7kcnf$mbj$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.42am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1  m140 Cool; 2.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 28 { 11: 7pm, 2019 }:53^(-5)  XɭΖɱ
      Everyone gets a Nobel !

SergIo wrote:
> StarFarter can't tell where his mind ends and the bong begins.

You get a Nobel ! You get a Nobel ! Everyone gets a Nobel !
[ Except Einstein ( he has bigger fish to fry ) ]
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--1.10pm.Seattle.2019
            AndrzejMatuch  loanE.505669$YR5.413039@fx45.iad
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7k47q$g9d$1@dont-email.me
        BranimirMaksimovic  mQgnE.882997$Apg.695764@fx36.am4
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7kdgp$kli$1@dont-email.me
    BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.5468027989141745285@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.33am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m34 Top; 1.6 Hours, Groundhog➤Android, Albasani.NET,  Mar 28 { 11:44pm, 2019 }:58^(1)  XɭΜΓ
      Are you trying to convince us that you're computer illiterate ?!

Branimir Maksimovic replied:
> > > > > When I see someone using Wi-Fi, the word "idiot" pops into my mind.
> > >
> > > Jeff is Wintroll...

You have to be a Win10 user to appreciate a wired device ?! 

> Optimal resolution is 5120x2880 on 22" monitor says windows 10 :)

ONLY if your monitor supports it, obviously.

Are you trying to convince us that you're computer illiterate ?!
if so, you're doing a really good job.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA1EB1380D812greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
        Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  3d7o9et312fifb0pordo4pc7eh8rccm2ie@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA20CBB0D3B04greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--6.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  m52 Cool; 1.5 Hours, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 28 {  5: 1pm, 2019 }:25  Xɭɸɕ
      You can't know unless-and-until you come here.

Avenging Angel replied ( to me ):
> > I welcome your red hat.
> 
> Going by hat we have seen on the news, you're the only one.

You can't know unless-and-until you come here, right ?

I think you'd be surprised.
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      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q7h7gr$197$1@dont-email.me
    AndrzejMatuch  BV5nE.116781$934.20606@fx16.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--1.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 8  m363 Mad; 4.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 28 {  8:40am, 2019 }:16^(-4)  XɭaϾ
      When I see someone using Wi-Fi.

When I see someone using Wi-Fi, the word "idiot" pops into my mind.
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              MrChrisV  6u4k9et3fquu8gl9mli8ub1lgrnfvkh8s2@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  5btmE.65763$v34.22340@fx10.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA1EB1380D812greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
    Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  3d7o9et312fifb0pordo4pc7eh8rccm2ie@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m20 Cool; 3.1 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Mar 27 {  6: 5pm, 2019 }:33^(-7)  Xɬϸმ
      I welcome your red hat.

Mattb wrote:
> Wear a red baseball cap around the University District, or Pike place.

Seattle is laid-back, trust me; there ain't nothing we haven't seen.

As a lifelong Seattlite, who's parents/grandparents were born here,
going all the way back to the Oregon Trail, I welcome your red hat.
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3703f5ec3fb9b73d1cf6@news.eternal-september.org
            MsNadegda  q7dv5b$jtk$1@dont-email.me
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.37046da8a4bdc24d1d10@news.eternal-september.org
        MsNadegda  q7eoo2$jtk$11@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.43pm.Seattle.2019
    MsNadegda  q7gi39$jtk$15@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--8.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Slack
    ╱ 1  m88 Cool; 3.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 27 {   :14pm, 2019 }:49  XɬΡʩ
      Culture Shock.

MsNadegda:
> Republican vote share rises with income.

Culture Shock, 2016:

  Trump won the rural vote, 62 to 34 ( & suburban, 50 to 45 );
  Hillary won the urban vote, 59 to 35.

Globalization is shrinking the planet -- culture shock; 
suburbia isn't ready for it.

In paradise, urban women can't be bothered to raise kids;
feminism killed marriage like unions killed Detroit.

Women can't get more ( vs men ) without contributing more;
no "Beggars Manifesto" ever worked, it's just silly/bitchy.

To keep a job, demand less; seek "Sustainability", or "Zen Minimalism".
Humanity is a beehive, queens are RARE; respect is rare, like gold.

Culture Shock, our FilthyRich government, cum doomsday cult, 
vilified/taxed "big tobacco" ( stepping on the poor );
now they're doing it again, with "big oil", squashing the poor.

Culture Shock, Singapore kills druggies and fines bubblegum chewers;
Seattle lets you shoot up, shit in the streets, kill, whatever.
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              Whisper│beaver999@ozemail_com  d6OdnWPCFLme2QrBnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@westnet.com.au
            Earle_Jones│earle_jones  2019032416170619972-earlejones@comcastnet
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--5.39pm.Seattle.2019
        casagiannoni@optonline_net  435l9e9sudql3vilt0hh5kjdt7eptknvd9@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7gfq5$1dom$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--3.58pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 3  m213 Top; 4.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 27 { 11:35am, 2019 }:49^(-4)  XɬΚძ
      Ben Jacoby's ignorance is WILLFUL.

Ben Jacoby imagined:
> > Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going
> > from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
> 
> <snort> Entropy is conserved, Rolf.

You don't have the first clue about thermodynamics.
Your ignorance is WILLFUL.  Like a sled dog, you don't need it.

Energy is conserved; entropy grows eternally, exponentially.

> [I] haven't a clue.

No shit, Sherlock.

> You've just bought some steam engine propaganda 
> and just blindly repeat it like a good little useful idiot.

Unlike you, scientists know thermodynamics is true/useful.
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3703f5ec3fb9b73d1cf6@news.eternal-september.org
            MsNadegda  q7dv5b$jtk$1@dont-email.me
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.37046da8a4bdc24d1d10@news.eternal-september.org
        MsNadegda  q7eoo2$jtk$11@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.43pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  0p3n9etboae665cb3vv6c770occ69j5tdj@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--3.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Alt.Slack
    ╱ 1  m138 Dropped; 7.7 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Mar 27 {  7:59am, 2019 }:10^(-4)  Xɬʕф
      The house I was born into.

Sir_Gregory:
> > Singaporian women have the fewest kids;
> > women in the poorest countries have the most kids;
> > in paradise, you don't raise kids.
> 
> Too bad your parents apparently lived in a slum.

The house I was born into, down the street from me now,
is worth 1.2 million dollars.

What about you ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q7gfln$1dom$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--2.17pm.Seattle.2019
        Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  440b3abb-e1aa-403f-9e95-f5d41df80e1e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--3.29pm.Seattle.2019
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  8520998d-9956-4566-aa82-6b761c24e1ee@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--3.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m19 Cool; 1.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 27 {  3:36pm, 2019 }:13^(PDT)  XɬϑD
      Cut back on the ganja.

Me_Sham:
> > Who ridicules "WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Exergy", you ?
> 
> No, actual physicists and contributors to science.

I suggest you cut back on the ganja, it's fogging your head.
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      JohnGohde  5935ec89-3fa7-408e-bc99-76dd2fba6b32@googlegroups.com
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  b6a0012f-7904-4ea7-a2d2-cec9f519847d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--3.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m18 Cool; 24.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 27 {  3:  pm, 2019 }:14^(PDT)  XɬυE
      Looking in the mirror.

Me_Sham:
> What happened to Darci Lynne?
> Did she turn 14 and become too old for your tastes, pervert? 

....he asked, looking in the mirror.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA1EB1380D812greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q7gfln$1dom$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--2.17pm.Seattle.2019
    Me_Sham│osirus47@yahoo_com  440b3abb-e1aa-403f-9e95-f5d41df80e1e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--3.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m18 Cool; 1 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 27 {  2:22pm, 2019 }:52^(PDT)  Xɬξв
      You don't have to understand thermodynamics.

Me_Sham:
> Reading the widely-ridiculed Wikipedia article 
> on "exergy" doesn't make you a man of science. 

Who ridicules it, you ?

You don't have to understand thermodynamics;
we need you for other things, like splitting wood.
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              AndrzejMatuch  5btmE.65763$v34.22340@fx10.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
          Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA1EB1380D812greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
      BenJacoby  q7gfln$1dom$1@gioia.aioe.org
    MrChrisV  q5in9e9mkf4roa8eu6jvsir7f7clgqauov@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--2.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m202 Dropped; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG,  Mar 27 {   : 5pm, 2019 }:37^(-5)  XɬΟჟ
      You have fooled no one, Lil Tay.

MrChrisV told me:
> There's nothing "correct" at all, about you, Relf.

Thank you ! God forbid I conform to your standards.

> "(chrisv) claims (Relf's) code is shitty. Let's see him substantiate
> it with some facts and a code analysis."  -  Ezekreep, regarding this
> mess:  http://jeff-relf.me/X.ZIP

Professional Programmers, including myself, have pointed out your errors;
you have fooled no one, Lil Tay.
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              MrChrisV  6u4k9et3fquu8gl9mli8ub1lgrnfvkh8s2@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  5btmE.65763$v34.22340@fx10.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA1EB1380D812greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7gfln$1dom$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.27--2.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m12 Top; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 27 { 11:33am, 2019 }:26^(-4)  XɬΚη
      Slaves don't need education.

Ben Jacoby told me:
> EVERYTHING about you is "politically correct"

Nothing about me is politically correct.

> you know no science, 

Your WILLFUL ignorance of science is legendary;
slaves don't need education, so you're good.

> you always spout the party line

You're lying about me to protect yourself;
my inability to "toe the line" is well-established.

> [I'm] still an idiot.

Please don't change; 
we like you this way, we need you this way.

> Anyone with half a brain would petrify 
> if they lived anywhere on the left coast.

In Seattle, you can follow whatever religion you want;
-- Islam, Christianity, pantheism, whatever;
no one cares, no one will lift a finger to stop you.

Further, you can protest the government all day, every day;
you'd have plenty of company, I assure you.

> Bert is prime example [ of a lefty ].

Bert is like Lil Tay, before she got caught.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.370367bbe0b18a22996b29@news.altopia.com
            mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q7d586$9h7$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3703f5ec3fb9b73d1cf6@news.eternal-september.org
        MsNadegda  q7dv5b$jtk$1@dont-email.me
      Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.37046da8a4bdc24d1d10@news.eternal-september.org
    MsNadegda  q7eoo2$jtk$11@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Alt.Slack
    ╱ 2  m89 Cool; 3.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 26 {  7:56pm, 2019 }: 2  XɬTɺ
      Seattle vs. Singapore.

> the superrich mostly vote Rapepublican

Of those earning $250+ thousand per year, 2016,
53% were Hillary supporters, compared to 25% for Trump.

> making housing unaffordable and politically pushing "austerity".

Housing in Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver BC, and Los Angeles
is expensive because people want to live there; 
no one wants to be banished to the woods, like "Sir Gregory".

Both Seattle and Singapore have billionaires;  however, 
Singapore slaughters druggies and fines bubblegum chewers,
while Seattle lets you shoot up, shit in the streets, whatever.

Singaporian women have the fewest kids;
women in the poorest countries have the most kids;
in paradise, you don't raise kids.
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3703f5ec3fb9b73d1cf6@news.eternal-september.org
            MsNadegda  q7dv5b$jtk$1@dont-email.me
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.37046da8a4bdc24d1d10@news.eternal-september.org
        MsNadegda  q7eoo2$jtk$11@dont-email.me
      Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.37049782b77b76bb1d39@news.eternal-september.org
    Kensi  q7es95$2d2$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Alt.Slack
    ╱ 1  m118 Top; 2.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 26 {  8:56pm, 2019 }:21^(2)  Xɬdʍ
      The Democrats vilified "big tobacco".

> Nadegda [backed] Sanders in the 2016 primary campaign.

Hence Trump's victory, no doubt.

The Democrats vilified "big tobacco" to rob from the poor,
to strengthen their "high and mighty" apocalypse cult.

Now they'd do the same with "big oil", which feeds us.
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    Kensi  q7es3h$2d2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m118 Top; 2.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 26 {  8:53pm, 2019 }:21^(2)  Xɬcя
      We're not buying into your apocalypse cult, sorry.

> Stronger hurricanes could decimate forests and accelerate climate change

....said the insurance salesman.

We're not buying into your apocalypse cult, sorry.
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              Whisper│beaver999@ozemail_com  d6OdnWPCFLme2QrBnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@westnet.com.au
            Earle_Jones│earle_jones  2019032416170619972-earlejones@comcastnet
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--5.39pm.Seattle.2019
        casagiannoni@optonline_net  435l9e9sudql3vilt0hh5kjdt7eptknvd9@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7enve$1gno$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m212 Top; 2.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 26 {  7:42pm, 2019 }:56^(-4)  XɬRu
      Ben Jacoby is the brawn, not the brains.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable,
> > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 
> Your theory of the universe as a large clock is old,
> and pretty much nonsense, Relf.

You wrongly presume that you're "the uncaused cause";
as if nothing could ever influence you.
No, you were programed to (mindlessly) provide for others.

> How can the universe be static and unchanging, yet you give it a 
> beginning and history.  You don't think much, eh, Relf ?

The four dimensional TimeScape is static, immutable;
"life", the "help them consume, sustainably" game you play, isn't;
in fact, you can even fathom four dimensions.

> > Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going
> > from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.
> 
> Bogus steam engine thermodynamics that ignores information entropy
> (not to mention free will).

In information theory, not physics, Shannon Entropy is
the size of your data ( perfectly compressed, ha ha ).

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Thermodynamics is still true/useful; science has not rejected it.
Entropy went up, luminosity/Watts went down, since billions of years ago.

> The Big Bang is totally bogus.  It is the biggest mistake
> in all of physics.  And [I'm] still an idiot.

You reject science because, like a sled dog, you've no need for it;
you're the brawn, not the brains.
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              casagiannoni@optonline_net  tofd9ehra1t72g317eh9fb90213ap0b5kp@4ax.com
            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C9732F8.2735@ix.netcom.com
          Whisper│beaver999@ozemail_com  d6OdnWPCFLme2QrBnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@westnet.com.au
        Earle_Jones│earle_jones  2019032416170619972-earlejones@comcastnet
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--5.39pm.Seattle.2019
    casagiannoni@optonline_net  435l9e9sudql3vilt0hh5kjdt7eptknvd9@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m20 Cool; 55.2 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Mar 26 {  2:35pm, 2019 }:33^(-4)  Xɫომ
      Before the Big Bang.

> GOD - This is trully laughable. Absolutely no evidence

"God" ( nature, evolution ) programmed us;
" Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness per se;
we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.

"God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).

> BOUNDARIES AND LIMITS - should be obvious that there are none,

Our horizon is relative, specific to us, not intrinsic to nature.
The singularity, at the start of the Big Bang, is our horizon.

> UNIVERSE - by definition means EVERYTHING.

Before the Big Bang, an infinitely  large/random  universe
existed, probably; but there's no evidence.

"The Known Universe" ( the one we can observe ) expands;
the distances between objects exponentially increases;
our horizon ends in a 13.8 billion year old singularity.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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              Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  Ax8mE.71657$e24.12450@fx19.iad
            AndrzejMatuch  i1cmE.137307$%45.132461@fx39.iad
          MrChrisV  6u4k9et3fquu8gl9mli8ub1lgrnfvkh8s2@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  5btmE.65763$v34.22340@fx10.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
    Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA1EB1380D812greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m6 Cool; 13.1 Minutes, Xnews, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 26 {  2:25pm, 2019 }:17  XɫნɅ
      Seattle doesn't protect anyone.

> > Seattle is like USENET, free; Singapore is like Wikipedia, regulated;
> > for this reason, innovation favors Seattle, not Singapore.
> 
> I'm thinking that if your speech is "not PC" [conservative] 
> you may get beaten and the gummint will fail to protect you.

Seattle doesn't protect anyone.  I live in Seattle, happily, 
and there's nothing " politically correct " about me.
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              ChrisAhlstrom  q7cvut$ck6$3@dont-email.me
            BranimirMaksimovic  42umE.178462$U33.66602@fx23.am4
          Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  q7dshc$3ed$1@dont-email.me
        BranimirMaksimovic  8CumE.280504$AZ5.171945@fx13.am4
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.02pm.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  %6wmE.858550$Apg.304031@fx36.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.30pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m28 Top; 42.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 26 {  1:40pm, 2019 }:27  XɫეЙ
      Win10 is detecting Branimir's  hardware/BIOS  problem.

"brand new" hardware can have problems; especially if 
you didn't configure it properly, or you went offbrand.

I think I had one blue screen in my entire life;
about 4 decades ago; and I am a HEAVY, heavy user.

But you're not me, so your experience will be different.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.370367bbe0b18a22996b29@news.altopia.com
            mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q7d586$9h7$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3703f5ec3fb9b73d1cf6@news.eternal-september.org
        MsNadegda  q7dv5b$jtk$1@dont-email.me
      PeeScent  c3al8l.t5q.19.3@news.alt.net
    MrAA  98bfc800-eff3-434b-bcf9-ae59674cce33@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--2.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m72 Top; 7.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 26 {  1:52pm, 2019 }:39^(PDT)  XɫზХ
      "Everyone" has occupied Korea.

MrAA asked:
> Why are the Finish and Korean languages related ?

"Everyone" has occupied Korea, at one time or another,
including the Finns and the Mongolians.
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              casagiannoni@optonline_net  2lac9et7v4nlol8hphk6bf5p7iq58ohosl@4ax.com
            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C9672D6.33BE@ix.netcom.com
          casagiannoni@optonline_net  uusc9e5b9rfrh0e0qe0had5lr8jo7di2cq@4ax.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.26am.Seattle.2019
      Whisper│beaver999@ozemail_com  d6OdnWHCFLmQ3grBnZ2dnUU7-evNnZ2d@westnet.com.au
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  2b94b75a-b390-2ddc-91bd-a77ddbe61171@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.48pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 3  m8 Cool; 2.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Cust.Swisscom.CH➤Bgeserver.DE,  Mar 26 { 10:48am, 2019 }:32^(1)  XɫиW
      Can you tell us why you don't want to know ?

Thomas Lahn replied ( to me ):
> > > "The Known Universe" ( the one we can observe ) expands;
> 
> Yes, because the *entire* universe is expanding.

I'm talking about the KNOWN Universe.
What might've happened before the Big Bang is unknown/unknowable.

> > > the distances between objects exponentially increases;
> 
> Uncertain.

Our greatest theory, lambda CDM, says the KNOWN Universe
is expanding exponentially; this is the standard model of cosmology.

> > > our horizon ends in a 13.8 billion year old singularity.
> 
> You could say that, but it is potentially confusing.

Our horizon is relative, specific to us, not intrinsic to nature.
The singularity, at the start of the Big Bang, is our horizon.

> > > Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going
> > > from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
> 
> “Eternal entropy” has nothing to do with that.

Basic thermodynamics applies to the hot/dense sun in cold/sparse space.
If you ignore thermodynamics, you're living in fantasy land;
i.e. you can't understand yourself, much less anyone/anything else.

> > > The hot/dense sun is dissipating into the cold/sparse void.
> 
> Nonsense.

The sun loses 4 million tons/second; it's evaporating, dissipating.

> > > 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of
> > > 695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison,
> > > the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.
> 
> Cite evidence.

Are you too lazy to Google ? !

Wikipedia has entries on J2157-3602 and ASASSN-15lh;
Wikipedia cites its sources. 

> > > The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
> > > hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
> 
> Nonsense.

Entropy went up; luminosity/Watts went down.
Again, I sense WILLFUL ignorance from you, Tom.
Can you tell us why you don't want to know ?
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              MrChrisV  95ih9e1tnhr0cb4ccj3vj9nq6u6daijf35@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  __6mE.137642$rB4.25236@fx01.iad
          ChrisAhlstrom  q7cvut$ck6$3@dont-email.me
        BranimirMaksimovic  42umE.178462$U33.66602@fx23.am4
      Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  q7dshc$3ed$1@dont-email.me
    BranimirMaksimovic  8CumE.280504$AZ5.171945@fx13.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--1.02pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    +Top, 59.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 26 { 11:57am, 2019 }: 8  XɫуΝ
      Win10 is detecting Branimir's  hardware/BIOS  problem.

Branimir:
> > > Spurious blue screen of deaths, still....
> >
> > Reliability Monitor [...]
> > images.techhive.com/images/article/2015/10/fig03-unstable-reli-100624709-orig.jpg
> 
> Happened twice in 10 months...

Win10 is detecting your  hardware/BIOS  problem.
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              MrChrisV  vsvh9elaol87rrhcjhnal0an1iplscbv9d@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  dO7mE.374525$cx5.360392@fx46.iad
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  Ax8mE.71657$e24.12450@fx19.iad
        AndrzejMatuch  i1cmE.137307$%45.132461@fx39.iad
      MrChrisV  6u4k9et3fquu8gl9mli8ub1lgrnfvkh8s2@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  5btmE.65763$v34.22340@fx10.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.26--11.17am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m322 Mad; 27.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 26 { 10:20am, 2019 }:10^(-4)  Xɫгʂ
      Innovation favors Seattle, not Singapore.

If you like money and hate " thieving junkies and random human feces ",
Singapore might be a good choice; but you can't criticize the government.
If free speech is your thing, then Seattle is the better choice.

Seattle is like USENET, free; Singapore is like Wikipedia, regulated;
for this reason, innovation favors Seattle, not Singapore.
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              Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gfrgtfFrj4fU1@mid.individual.net
            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C991808.54F4@ix.netcom.com
          casagiannoni@optonline_net  vigi9etu79r47kmtms4j8ne96mlm8m3u04@4ax.com
        MrAA  c8bbf1ee-da59-4f4c-b632-f370673b81e9@googlegroups.com
      Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gftaq6F9gq0U1@mid.individual.net
    BenJacoby  q7cata$me9$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--10.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m202 Top; 21.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 25 {  9:47pm, 2019 }:38^(-4)  Xɫʧრ
      We're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.

"God" ( nature, evolution ) programmed us;
" Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness per se;
we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.

"God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
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              SamWormley  a3a9e080-4b84-48c3-b0fc-24ada65d7e59@googlegroups.com
            MrAA  0c68cea1-6686-4b08-8bd5-5eb7d101dee6@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--3.26pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q7bt0q$s2h$4@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--7.49pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7cb85$nmo$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--10.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 3  m202 Top; 16 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 25 {  9:53pm, 2019 }:26^(-4)  Xɫʨე
      Quantum mechanics is not the same thing as thermodynamics.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > Every bit of evidence, ever, supports "my assertion" ( thermodynamics );
> > not one piece of evidence, ever, could support your (pop) fantasy.
> 
> Your "evidence" clearly stops with steam engines! 
> It's the 21st century, you moron.

Quantum mechanics is not the same thing as thermodynamics.

"shut up and calculate" is the proper attitude 
to take when using quantum mechanics; instead, 
you've taken the pop sci-fi "random worlds" approach.
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          SamWormley  a3a9e080-4b84-48c3-b0fc-24ada65d7e59@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  0c68cea1-6686-4b08-8bd5-5eb7d101dee6@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--3.26pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7bt0q$s2h$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--7.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 1  m200 Dropped; 1.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 25 {  5:50pm, 2019 }:37^(-4)  Xɫʀʝ
      Maxwell's demon doesn't work for free; no free lunch.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > Like lasers, "Coherence" consumes a HUGE amount of energy.
> > Maxwell's demon doesn't work for free; no free lunch.
> 
> Relf once again uses his superpowers to end the discussion
> with "proof by assertion".  Relf, you are STILL an idiot.

Every bit of evidence, ever collected, supports my "assertion";
not one piece of evidence, ever, could support your (pop) fantasy.

Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington wrote: ＜＜

    If someone points out to you that
    your pet theory of the universe is
    in disagreement with Maxwell's equations --

    then, so much the worse for Maxwell's equations.
    
    If it is found to be contradicted by observers --
    well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.
    
    But, if your theory is found to be
    against the second law of thermodynamics --

    I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but
    to collapse in deepest humiliation.  ＞＞

    -- From "The Nature of the Physical World", 1915, chapter 4.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.21pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q774hu$1kah$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.09pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q7b660$1m3f$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--1.17pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7bsnp$s2h$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--7.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 2  m200 Dropped; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 25 {  5:45pm, 2019 }:48^(-4)  Xɫɿϓ
      Entropy production.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > If Maxwell's demon needs any "eXergy" (**) at all,
> > then entropy progresses forward eternally, exponentially, infinitely;
> > ( **: a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
> 
> Relf continues his insane babbling drool; 
> he makes up his own words, i.e. "exergy"...

From "WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Exergy":

  In thermodynamics, the exergy of a system is the 
  maximum useful work possible during a process that 
  brings the system into equilibrium with a heat reservoir.  
 
  Exergy is the energy that is available to be used. 

  After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, 
  the exergy is zero. 

  Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.  

  Energy is neither created nor destroyed during a process; 
  instead, energy is changed from one form to another, 
  per the First Law of Thermodynamics. 

  In contrast, exergy is always destroyed when a process is irreversible, 
  ( e.g., heat lost to the environment ), per the 2nd Law.

  This destruction is proportional to the entropy increase of the system,
  together with its surroundings ( see Entropy production );
  the destroyed exergy has been called anergy.  
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      SamWormley  a3a9e080-4b84-48c3-b0fc-24ada65d7e59@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  0c68cea1-6686-4b08-8bd5-5eb7d101dee6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--3.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m68 Top; 6.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 25 {  3:12pm, 2019 }:48^(PDT)  Xɫɦm
      Like lasers, "Coherence" consumes a HUGE amount of energy.

MrAA to SamWormley:
> > Powering an Engine with Quantum Coherence
> 
> Sounds like putting Maxwell's demon to work!

Like lasers, "Coherence" consumes a HUGE amount of energy.

Maxwell's demon doesn't work for free; no free lunch.
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              MrChrisV  2guh9e9l5l3ej7i0s5oen8o297q5pgajfc@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  l57mE.137645$rB4.18401@fx01.iad
          MrChrisV  vsvh9elaol87rrhcjhnal0an1iplscbv9d@4ax.com
        AndrzejMatuch  dO7mE.374525$cx5.360392@fx46.iad
      MrChrisV  aq2i9e19r0p9u4fv96jkl3ndckaqir8eqg@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  a0cmE.137306$%45.17419@fx39.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--3.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m306 Mad; 3.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 25 {  2:47pm, 2019 }:50^(-4)  Xɫɡწ
      Respect is RARE and expensive, like gold, not ubiquitous.

Both Seattle and Singapore have billionaires;  however, 
Singapore slaughters druggies and fines bubblegum chewers,
while Seattle lets you shoot up and shit in the streets.

Singaporian women have the fewest kids;
women in the poorest countries have the most kids;
in paradise, you don't raise kids.

Feminism killed marriage like unions killed Detroit.

Women can't get more ( vs men ) without contributing more;
their "Beggars Manifesto" can't work, and it just makes them look
silly, bitchy, thoughtless, and cliché.

To keep a job, demand less; seek "Sustainability", or "Zen Minimalism".
Humanity is a beehive, queens are RARE;
respect is RARE and expensive, like gold, not ubiquitous.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--3.56pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q76gb2$1085$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.21pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q774hu$1kah$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.09pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q7b660$1m3f$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.25--1.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 2  m203 Dropped; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 25 { 11:20am, 2019 }:48^(-4)  Xɫȵʨ
      Entropy progresses forward eternally, exponentially, infinitely.

Ben Jacoby asked me:
> And the way you know how much energy the demon uses would be ?

If Maxwell's demon needs any "eXergy" (**) at all,
then entropy progresses forward eternally, exponentially, infinitely;
( **: a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).

If you  don't/can't/won't  understand thermodynamics,
then you won't understand yourself, nor me; you've nothing but insults.
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              FabianRussell  q787ss0v7e@news2.newsguy.com
            Owl  sz8b93g0qg.3@rooftop.invalid
          FabianRussell  q78lm9029sr@news4.newsguy.com
        Owl  sibu3gaiga34hu4.4@rooftop.invalid
      FabianRussell  q7947t02j6v@news4.newsguy.com
    Owl  szb80t0ata.h4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--6.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 2  m81 Top; 26.6 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 24 {  5:18pm, 2019 }:20  XɪϱK
      In my hands, vim is a worthless piece of shit.

Owl:
> [ vim is ] the greatest editor the world has ever known,

In my hands, vim is a worthless piece of shit.

My  extensions/macros  for Visual Studio:
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
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              casagiannoni@optonline_net  uusc9e5b9rfrh0e0qe0had5lr8jo7di2cq@4ax.com
            The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C96A7F5.56D@ix.netcom.com
          casagiannoni@optonline_net  tofd9ehra1t72g317eh9fb90213ap0b5kp@4ax.com
        The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C9732F8.2735@ix.netcom.com
      Whisper│beaver999@ozemail_com  d6OdnWPCFLme2QrBnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@westnet.com.au
    Earle_Jones│earle_jones  2019032416170619972-earlejones@comcastnet
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--5.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 56.9 Minutes, UnisonMacBin, Giganews.COM,  Mar 24 {  4:17pm, 2019 }: 6^(-7)  XɪϘр
      Before the Big Bang.

Before the Big Bang, an infinitely  large/random  universe
existed, probably; but there's no evidence.

"The Known Universe" ( the one we can observe ) expands;
the distances between objects exponentially increases;
our horizon ends in a 13.8 billion year old singularity.

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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            HerbertGlazier  5ab1ee7d-e8db-4cc3-bc20-2ea9104e7e0f@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  61b5c702-2cad-488c-b4c2-10172bd149c8@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  96f38cd3-4989-4950-9655-34c3740deae5@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  q774cn$1kah$2@gioia.aioe.org
    MrAA  d0045e36-6455-4632-beca-b94bb145792b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--2.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m66 Top; 2.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 24 {  2: 2pm, 2019 }:15^(PDT)  Xɪλʇ
      Bert is like that 9-year-old flexer/rapper girl, Lil Tay.

Bert is like that 9-year-old flexer/rapper girl, Lil Tay.

She'd make like she was moving "bricks" ( of cocaine );
as if she was filthy rich/powerful.
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              Nomen_Nescio│nobody@dizum_com  97bf0572f38f8b5000fb82342cbf50be@dizum.com
            AndrzejMatuch  fb4lE.227451$q55.80728@fx42.iad
          Bob_Campbell│none@none_none  p5ydnUjqBIZukQrBnZ2dnUU7-YPNnZ2d@supernews.com
        Jolly_Roger│jollyroger@pobox_  gfpmp5Ffh8bU1@mid.individual.net
      Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  q78id7$2oc$1@dont-email.me
    Alan_Browne│bitbucket  gf6dnQJhTKUcUwrBnZ2dnUU7-QnNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.24--0.16pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Misc.Phone.Mobile.Iphone, Comp.Sys.Mac.System, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 19.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Giganews.COM,  Mar 24 { 11:37am, 2019 }:53^(-4)  XɪΛɱ
      When not in use, my cordless phone rests in its charger.

When not in use, my cordless phone rests in its charger.

This is very convenient because I don't have to think about it except 
once every 14 months, when it's time to buy a new set of NiMH batteries.

I have two handsets, one of which never gets used;
yet BOTH handsets need their batteries changed at the same time;
likely, this is because both are exposed to the same amount of heat.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.57pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q76btm$dk8$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--3.56pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q76gb2$1085$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.21pm.Seattle.2019
    Olrik│olrik666@gmail_com  q77516$401$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 17.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 23 { 10:36pm, 2019 }:40^(-4)  Xɪue
      To remain in paradise, don't have kids.

Olrik asked:
> > The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
> > hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
> 
> What does any of this has anything to do with bacon?

Making Bacon increases the entropy of The Known Universe.

> Or not believing in Zeus ?

"God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate 
even when it's counter beneficial to both yourself and society.

To remain in paradise, don't have kids.
Macau and Singapore have the fewest kids per woman.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.57pm.Seattle.2019
            BenJacoby  q76btm$dk8$3@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--3.56pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q76gb2$1085$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.21pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q774hu$1kah$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 1  m204 Dropped; 25.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 23 { 10:28pm, 2019 }:31^(-4)  XɪsН
      Your brain's consumption rate is 100 Watts.

Ben Jacoby asked:
> Ever hear of [ Maxwell's demon ] ? 

Once again, you've demonstrated your ignorance.

Information Processing is not  energy/cost  free;
the fastest computers require EXTREME cooling.
Your brain's consumption rate is 100 Watts.

Maxwell's demon is a hungry little fellow;  so much so, 
he can't reverse entropy's eternal, exponential progression.

> What is the missing entropy the demon has ?  Information.
> You are still an idiot.

....he said, looking in the mirror.
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              -----------_A_t_h_e_i_s_t_----  s_SdndFX3YLjHgjBnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@supernews.com
            PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  DqKdnbaOVPwVCQjBnZ2dnUU7-anNnZ2d@earthlink.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
        PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  U6GdnQMt7aWgXgjBnZ2dnUU7-RfNnZ2d@earthlink.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.57pm.Seattle.2019
    PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  LfWdnfRSTsV0fgvBnZ2dnUU7-RfNnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion, Alt.Politics, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╳ 1  m3 Shifty; 1.9 Hours, XPN➤Linux, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.168.32,  Mar 23 {  6:56pm, 2019 }:57^(-5)  XɪJΒ
      "Entropy" (Uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

"God" is nature, PhantomView.

It's a simple concept, most people understand it;
no one thinks of nature as an actual person, 
least of all Spinoza, 1664, in Voorburg, Netherlands.

GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE,
(rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past;
i.e. free will is an illusion, God/Nature  programed us.

PhantomView replied ( to me ):
> > The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
> > hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
> 
> I would not say it had "less entropy", instead it is better
> to say that entropy had made less progress in dragging
> down the universe. 

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Entropy grows eternally, exponentially; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.

> It is  not necessarily impossible to move amongst multiverses.

I subscribe to the Copenhagen Interpretation ( shut-up and calculate ), 
the mainstream interpretation, not the (pop) sci-fi "random worlds" shit.
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          MrAA  065d89d5-4f6c-4d0d-a0ba-2c762033c2f5@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  9a4f352d-b420-4b92-966d-5b6d8df99f9e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gfo1uhF4p32U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m10 Cool; 3.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Mar 23 {  5:39pm, 2019 }:43^(11)  Xɪ6ψ
      A plethora of "random" accelerations.

A plethora of "random" accelerations, including the Earth's rotation,
people walking around, rain, the moon, etc., must be accounted for,
when calculating the gravitational constant.

" Deep space [ outside our solar system ] experiment 
  could measure the gravitational constant with nearly
  10^3 times improvement in accuracy [ 3 orders of magnitude ] ",
    by Lisa Zyga, May 2016.

" the [measurement] could be shielded from solar radiation pressure 
  by positioning it in the shadow of the host spacecraft. 

  But the researchers explain that any acceleration greater
  than 10-17 m/s2 must be modeled and accounted for
  when interpreting the data. "
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
            PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  U6GdnQMt7aWgXgjBnZ2dnUU7-RfNnZ2d@earthlink.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.57pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q76btm$dk8$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--3.56pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q76gb2$1085$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--9.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 2  m191 Dropped; 4.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 23 {  4:43pm, 2019 }:33^(-4)  Xɩჳɝ
      "Entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> You don't know what entropy is.
> 
> News Flash: Information is entropy.  Revise your theory, Relf.

Sorry, but I don't take instructions from the clueless.

In information theory, not physics, Shannon Entropy is
the size of your data ( perfectly compressed, ha ha ).

In physics, entropy is how evenly  heat/matter  are distributed.
The  hot/dense  sun is dissipating into the  cold/sparse  void;
i.e. "entropy" (uniformity) is increasing, the sun is evaporating.

Entropy grows eternally; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely  hot/dense  to infinitely  cold/sparse.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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      MrAA  065d89d5-4f6c-4d0d-a0ba-2c762033c2f5@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  9a4f352d-b420-4b92-966d-5b6d8df99f9e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m65 Top; 4.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 23 {  3:53pm, 2019 }:29^(PDT)  Xɩცთ
      The Gravitational Variable.

MrAA:
> G, as measured on Earth, is varying over a 5.9 year cycle !

Apparently, we should call it "The Gravitational Variable", not constant.
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              -----------_A_t_h_e_i_s_t_----  s_SdndFX3YLjHgjBnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@supernews.com
            PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  DqKdnbaOVPwVCQjBnZ2dnUU7-anNnZ2d@earthlink.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
        PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  U6GdnQMt7aWgXgjBnZ2dnUU7-RfNnZ2d@earthlink.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.57pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q76btm$dk8$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--3.56pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion
    ╱ 1  m186 Dropped; 24 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 23 {  3:28pm, 2019 }:11^(-4)  XɩღϹ
      "God" is nature.

Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ):
> > The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
> > hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
> 
> Not true Rolf.  You're ignoring the decrease in entropy 
> due to all the new information created by humanity.

You don't know what entropy is.

> You are still an idiot.

....he said, looking in the mirror.
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    MrAA  065d89d5-4f6c-4d0d-a0ba-2c762033c2f5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--3.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m64 Top; 31.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 23 {  2:54pm, 2019 }:20^(PDT)  XɩსK
      Back then, 1776, Masonic bathings were surprisingly homosexual, closeted.

MrAA asked:
> wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_were_Freemasons
> 
> What does it mean?

Back then, 1776, Masonic bathings were surprisingly homosexual, closeted.
Even baptism was homosexual, initially.   Today, it's more open/sterile.

Consider the legal brothels in modern-day Nevada;
it's less closeted now, but condoms are required for everything,
and "dirty" stuff, like kissing and anal sex, are prohibited.

Paying ten thousand dollars for a soulless, 
sterile act isn't "sex", in my opinion;
you could get the same from your local physician, for less.
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          The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C95377A.374D@ix.netcom.com
        casagiannoni@optonline_net  2lac9et7v4nlol8hphk6bf5p7iq58ohosl@4ax.com
      The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_  5C9672D6.33BE@ix.netcom.com
    casagiannoni@optonline_net  uusc9e5b9rfrh0e0qe0had5lr8jo7di2cq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.26am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy, Rec.Arts.SF.Written
    ╱ 1  m15 Cool; 7.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Mar 23 { 11:10am, 2019 }:13^(-4)  Xɩлϻ
      "The Known Universe" ( the one we can observe ) expands.

"The Known Universe" ( the one we can observe ) expands;
the distances between objects exponentially increases;
our horizon ends in a 13.8 billion year old singularity.

Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
The hot/dense sun is dissipating into the cold/sparse void.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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              AndrzejMatuch  tzflE.221700$YR5.144641@fx45.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  KDhlE.222027$YR5.131058@fx45.iad
        Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  q74t1t$832$1@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.18am.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  OUtlE.947670$OGY.76029@fx08.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--11.04am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m20 Top; 39.7 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Mar 23 { 10:19am, 2019 }:42  Xɩгɦ
      Win10 is only as "stupid" as the person running it.

Branimir Maksimovic replied ( to me ):
> > Delete the "C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\Microsoft" folder; 
> > replace it with a ReadOnly text file named "Microsoft".
> 
> A stupid OS requires stupid solutions.

Win10 is only as "stupid" as the person running it.
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              AndrzejMatuch  s%blE.145178$j75.86686@fx36.iad
            Apd│not@all_invalid  q73rae$1fmd$1@gioia.aioe.org
          AndrzejMatuch  tzflE.221700$YR5.144641@fx45.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
      Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  KDhlE.222027$YR5.131058@fx45.iad
    Paul│nospam@needed_invalid  q74t1t$832$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.23--10.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 7.7 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 23 {  2: 8am, 2019 }:14^(-4)  Xɩμʆ
      Delete the "C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\Microsoft" folder.

> > ...turn off Automatic Updates. 
> 
> Delete one file.  Done.

Delete the "C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\Microsoft" folder; 
replace it with a ReadOnly text file named "Microsoft".
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            alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20190322NuPy92eZeRo87hJaLi68tJa@Gy13
          -----------_A_t_h_e_i_s_t_----  s_SdndFX3YLjHgjBnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@supernews.com
        PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  DqKdnbaOVPwVCQjBnZ2dnUU7-anNnZ2d@earthlink.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
    PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  U6GdnQMt7aWgXgjBnZ2dnUU7-RfNnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Atheism, Alt.Religion, Alt.Politics, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 25.4 Minutes, XPN➤Linux, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.168.32,  Mar 22 { 10:25pm, 2019 }:17^(-5)  XɩʮɅ
      "God" is nature.

PhantomView replied ( to me ):
> > "God" is nature.
> 
> You are anthropomorphizing. 
> Nature is just nature. No personality involved.

You're projecting, I never said  God/nature  had a personality;
besides, it's not even my idea; it came from Spinoza, Netherlands mid 1600's.

Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
The hot/dense sun is dissipating into the cold/sparse void.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
            Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  KDhlE.222027$YR5.131058@fx45.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  BxilE.103581$XH3.15842@fx25.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  hWilE.234663$cx5.234144@fx46.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--9.58pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m111 Cool; 54 Secs, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 22 {  9:50pm, 2019 }:21  Xɩʨʍ
      Not once have I had an update forced on me.

> > I've been programming Windows since 1989, Seattle, for Boeing commercial/aerospace; 
> > Not once have I had an update forced on me; all nags turned off.
> > Not once have I had a virus; and I don't use antivirus protection, no UAC.
> >
> You also shit in a [ Vittles Vault ].

Yes, and I'm proud of it.

> Hey whatever works for you, go for it Typhoid Mary.

We're different people, with different skills/interests;
things that work for me might not work for you.
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              Apd│not@all_invalid  q73rae$1fmd$1@gioia.aioe.org
            AndrzejMatuch  tzflE.221700$YR5.144641@fx45.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  KDhlE.222027$YR5.131058@fx45.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  BxilE.103581$XH3.15842@fx25.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m110 Cool; 3.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 22 {  9:24pm, 2019 }: 1  Xɩʤ1
      Not once have I had an update forced on me.

> > ;  Stop/Disable the "Windows Update", "Windows Modules Installer", 
> > ;  and "Background Intelligent Transfer" services; then reboot.
> >
> > ;  Take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-, Merge and ReBoot.
> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
> > ; 1 - UnMetered;  2 - "metered" ( no automatic updates ).
> > "Ethernet"=dword:2
> 
> Doesn't work.

I've been programming Windows since 1989, Seattle, for Boeing commercial/aerospace; 
Not once have I had an update forced on me; all nags turned off.
Not once have I had a virus; and I don't use antivirus protection, no UAC.

;  Reqires a ReBoot.  Turns Windows Defender On[Off].
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender]
"DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:1

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"EnableLUA"=dword:0
"ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin"=dword:0
"FilterAdministratorToken"=dword:0
"EnableSecureUIAPaths"=dword:0
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              Apd│not@all_invalid  q73h8t$33o$1@gioia.aioe.org
            AndrzejMatuch  s%blE.145178$j75.86686@fx36.iad
          Apd│not@all_invalid  q73rae$1fmd$1@gioia.aioe.org
        AndrzejMatuch  tzflE.221700$YR5.144641@fx45.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  KDhlE.222027$YR5.131058@fx45.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m109 Cool; 12.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 22 {  8:22pm, 2019 }:18  XɩʙА
      Turn off Automatic Updates, Win10 Home Edition.

Ratchet replied ( to me ):
> > I prefer Win10 Home Edition, "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT".
> 
> Bad choice.
> You can't totally turn off some things like Microsoft Automatic Updates. 
> Unless of course you disconnect from the net.

From my link (above):

;  Stop/Disable the "Windows Update", "Windows Modules Installer", 
;  and "Background Intelligent Transfer" services; then reboot.

;  Take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-, Merge and ReBoot.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
; 1 - UnMetered;  2 - "metered" ( no automatic updates ).
@=dword:2
"Default"=dword:2
"WiFi"=dword:2
"Ethernet"=dword:2

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        alt_fan_jai-maharaj  20190322NuPy92eZeRo87hJaLi68tJa@Gy13
      -----------_A_t_h_e_i_s_t_----  s_SdndFX3YLjHgjBnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@supernews.com
    PhantomView│pv@PhantomView114_  DqKdnbaOVPwVCQjBnZ2dnUU7-anNnZ2d@earthlink.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Alt.Atheism, Sci.Physics, Alt.Religion, Alt.Politics, Talk.Politics.Misc
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 2.9 Minutes, XPN➤Linux, Earthlink.COM, 98.77.168.32,  Mar 22 {  7: 6pm, 2019 }:  ^(-5)  Xɩʍ0
      "God" is nature.

"God" is nature.
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              rmd│remedy@not-for-mail_  q72sph$37m$1@news.mixmin.net
            BranimirMaksimovic  XBalE.190470$kh.186159@fx27.am4
          Apd│not@all_invalid  q73h8t$33o$1@gioia.aioe.org
        AndrzejMatuch  s%blE.145178$j75.86686@fx36.iad
      Apd│not@all_invalid  q73rae$1fmd$1@gioia.aioe.org
    AndrzejMatuch  tzflE.221700$YR5.144641@fx45.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--7.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10
    ╱ 1  m261 Mad; 36.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 22 {  6: 1pm, 2019 }:13^(-4)  Xɩʂȿ
      I prefer Win10 Home Edition.

I prefer Win10 Home Edition, "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT".
I don't use Wi-Fi, nor a wireless headset; I'm a HEAVY user.
Logitech g633 HeadSet, 66$ "used"; g600 mouse, 40$.
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              TheSnitBot  gfie5eFs5cjU4@mid.individual.net
            Klaus_Schadenfreude│  vs789ep6ti8p8our9gqgmo5i74ped71sh8@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  p14lE.206977$tA5.56504@fx47.iad
        TheSnitBot  gfk88aF9k9lU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.02am.Seattle.2019
    TheSnitBot  gfkjjqFc21vU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--2.44pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m273 Dropped; 4.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 22 { 10:16am, 2019 }:42^(-7)  XɩqШ
      TheSnitBot fails the Turing test.

You ( TheSnitBot ) are a mountain of shit calling itself caviar;
you're fooling no one, not even yourself.

Your stupidity is so vast, you're so fake, so mindless, 
so robotic, there's no trace of humanity left in you;
you fail the Turing test, well and truly.

You are a Democrat.
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              TheSnitBot  gfho8hFnfjbU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
          TheSnitBot  gfie5eFs5cjU4@mid.individual.net
        Klaus_Schadenfreude│  vs789ep6ti8p8our9gqgmo5i74ped71sh8@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  v4k99ed48qdilq8af4kedn74qo0najr52n@4ax.com
    TheSnitBot  gfkhlpFbjhtU6@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--0.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m271 Dropped; 2.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 22 {  9:43am, 2019 }:37^(-7)  Xɩlɡ
      Snit's ego is like wet rice paper.

TheSnitBot ( annotated, for your convenience ):
> those in power are [ the Almighty government is ] better 
> able to exploit others than the [filthy] poor [ who I want to tax ].

Mindless robots, such as yourself, vilify big oil;
when done, you'll have raised the price of food and fuel, 
harming the "filthy" poor -- as you did before, with tobacco.

The "yellow vests" will turn on you, like yellow jackets.

Your ego is like wet rice paper; 
you are incapable of admitting to a mistake, no matter how small.
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q6tt19$kj5$1@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  e05d0a54-bfda-49b9-9b81-c6c83c90c641@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--2.25pm.Seattle.2019
        HughHuntzinger  5354524e-f7b7-4534-a9db-2534978ee84a@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  5sj99ehpbb2j0qsib521090lkr3uht4d4o@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  8887ea70-5b8e-491f-8f2c-082749a5d35e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--0.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m12 Top; 2.1 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Mar 22 {  9:40am, 2019 }:52^(PDT)  Xɩkв
      Some cannot admit to any mistake, no matter how small.

Hugh to ChrisV:
> > > > I can do better, if I'm willing to spend more time and/or money;
> > > > but I'm not always willing to do so.
> > > 
> > > An astute summary, yet one that the COLA fanboys seem to never grok.
> > 
> > We are well-aware that choice has costs.
> 
> I was illustrating just  how  one is paying a cost for choice.
> And since now you've joined me in recognizing this externality,
> then just where's your hang-up ?

Some ( very few ) cannot admit to any mistake, no matter how small.
it's hard to believe, but they ( ChrisV and Snit ) exist.
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              MrChrisV  vf779ed9g1u8dgi0nfa4o99r0asob0vt20@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  2fbbc43a-d808-4787-9c4e-bbb683c311e5@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--11.39am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  65a1c13f-f508-4659-bd41-094d1199615f@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  mss99et1n32o04vnvm3iolltdc52otv1m5@4ax.com
    TheSnitBot  gfkg8tFb90bU9@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--11.46am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m266 Dropped; 2.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 22 {  9:19am, 2019 }:41^(-7)  Xɩhɥ
You're wrong, Snit.

TheSnitBot wrote:
> Carroll uses the same false insults against anyone who proves him wrong. 
> Then his sock army comes out to play.

No, hundreds of REAL people are telling you that you're wrong, Snit; and 
we're shocked when you fail to believe them ( because it'd hurt your pride ).
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              MrChrisV  vf779ed9g1u8dgi0nfa4o99r0asob0vt20@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  2fbbc43a-d808-4787-9c4e-bbb683c311e5@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--11.39am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  65a1c13f-f508-4659-bd41-094d1199615f@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  mss99et1n32o04vnvm3iolltdc52otv1m5@4ax.com
    SteveCarroll  78c20965-272b-4e13-9f6e-fb593d68ac4a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--11.38am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 12  m236 Mad; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 22 {  8: 9am, 2019 }: 3^(PDT)  XɩVΘ
      Some people ( ChrisV, Snit ) can't admit to any mistake, no matter how small.

Some people ( ChrisV, Snit ) can't admit to any mistake, no matter how small.

If I hadn't seen it here, on USENET, for 15 years, I wouldn't believe it.
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q6tt19$kj5$1@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  e05d0a54-bfda-49b9-9b81-c6c83c90c641@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--2.25pm.Seattle.2019
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  iQVkE.69534$e24.27605@fx19.iad
      AndrzejMatuch  f24lE.206996$tA5.130064@fx47.iad
    TheSnitBot  gfk9jfF9qm6U4@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--11.17am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  m266 Dropped; 1.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 22 {  7:25am, 2019 }:51^(-7)  XɩOɯ
      My Vittles Vault is "cheap and unusual", like a distro.

TheSnitBot:
> [ Relf's Vittles Vault ] has nothing to do with Linux.

My Vittles Vault is "cheap and unusual", like a distro.

Two days ago, Natasha was in my room again, for another 4+ hours.
Why should Andrzej complain, when she never does ? !

Now 30, with a trim waste, double D's, and a great personality,
she's had hundreds of sexual partners.
She's pansexual; if you cross her, she's (seriously) violent.

Her parents divorced, she spent about half her time with her strict father,
and the other half with her alcoholic mother.

She was treated poorly by her father ( like a second-rate slave ), 
and her mother treated herself poorly ( she drank herself to death ).

Genetically, she's extremely white;
culturally, she thinks of herself as 80% Chicana.

She used to work for a traveling carnival;
putting up games, running them, taking them down, etc.

More recently, she worked for "Sizzle Pie", a pizzeria.
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              TheSnitBot  gfho8hFnfjbU1@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
          TheSnitBot  gfie5eFs5cjU4@mid.individual.net
        Klaus_Schadenfreude│  vs789ep6ti8p8our9gqgmo5i74ped71sh8@4ax.com
      AndrzejMatuch  p14lE.206977$tA5.56504@fx47.iad
    TheSnitBot  gfk88aF9k9lU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.22--10.02am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 7  m266 Dropped; 2.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 22 {  7: 2am, 2019 }:50  XɩKʪ
      Harming the "filthy" poor.

TheSnitBot replied ( to me ):
> > > > > The market determines your worth, high or low.
> 
> [ ... promotes ] worship of the wealthy.

Nothing is wealthier, or more powerful, than the thing
that you worship at your sacred altar: the government.

Mindless robots, such as yourself, vilify big oil;
when done, you'll have raised the price of food and fuel, 
harming the "filthy" poor -- as you did before, with tobacco.

The "yellow vests" will turn on you like yellow jackets.
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              MrDFS  Px%eE.41542$BO3.14902@fx04.iad
            Owl  fa9cx0zb803gt.4h8i@rooftop.invalid
          Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q6uo6o$kd1$2@dont-email.me
        MrDFS  WMNkE.179107$KB3.76922@fx02.iad
      AndrzejMatuch  YrOkE.36264$n34.33567@fx11.iad
    Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q70e1g$9ak$6@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--3.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 13  m48 Cool; 5 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 21 {  9:27am, 2019 }:28^(3)  Xɨʤι
      What's your back story, Peter Kozlov ?

What's your back story, Peter Kozlov ?
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q6cjmf$rsc$2@dont-email.me
            Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q6up38$kd1$4@dont-email.me
          Owl  zcb08t.gu94@rooftop.invalid
        Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q6vihk$m6m$1@dont-email.me
      Owl  sb8a083gq.3u4@rooftop.invalid
    Peter_Kozlov│pkoz@blacksea_  q70af5$p7v$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 19  m48 Cool; 6 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 21 {  8:26am, 2019 }:28^(3)  Xɨʚʔ
      I designed my virtual keyboard (Win10).

Peter Kozlov wrote:
> When I am using the iPhone I am using a virtual keyboard.
> There are no arrows on that keyboard so I use Vim keyboard 
> navigation to move the cursor around. 

I designed my virtual keyboard (Win10):

  Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q6fiss$15v$1@dont-email.me
            AndrzejMatuch  SlSiE.81427$KB3.63666@fx02.iad
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  1KViE.11002$q55.10921@fx42.iad
        MrChrisV  5ld49epl8i951cc49ein4emek3p3lftlnc@4ax.com
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q6tt19$kj5$1@dont-email.me
    HughHuntzinger  e05d0a54-bfda-49b9-9b81-c6c83c90c641@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--2.25pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m10 Top; 6.8 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.71,  Mar 21 {  4: 8am, 2019 }:27^(PDT)  Xɨɯʓ
      I enjoy the 15-oz, 2$ can of Stagg Chili.

Speaking of random distros, HughHuntzinger analogized:
> Open the sixth (unlabeled) can ... nope, lima beans.
> Open the seventh can ... ugh, cream of corn. 
> Open the eighth can ... chicken with rice.  Close enough to settle.
> [ or just go to a restaurant, to get what you really want ]

I enjoy the 15-oz, 2$ can of Stagg(tm) Chili.
Sour cream ( on bread ) is good; I recently paid 1.40$ for a quart.

You can do better, if you're willing to spend more time and/or money;
but I'm not always willing to do so.
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              BenJacoby  q6uc81$13gu$1@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--3.10pm.Seattle.2019
          BenJacoby  q6v6ir$jhj$1@gioia.aioe.org
        MrChrisV  94v69ehj93g4ho98i34810aa9j76i1k4bk@4ax.com
      AndrzejMatuch  waLkE.332559$h85.209567@fx37.iad
    TheSnitBot  gfho8hFnfjbU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 3  m239 Dropped; 2.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 21 {  8:17am, 2019 }:37  Xɨʘჟ
      Demanding more than you're worth is a dead-end.

TheSnitBot repeated:
> Slavery is the ultimate unfettered capitalism. 

Demanding more than you're worth is a dead-end.
The market determines your worth, high or low.

Democrats are the party of the filthy rich;
of those earning $250+ thousand per year, 2016,
53% were Hillary supporters, compared to 25% for Trump.

Our FilthyRich government, cum doomsday cult, 
would tax our "evil" food and fuel, 
like they tax our "evil" tobacco; hence YellowVests.

Piss off the rich, and you'll hear it on CNN;
piss off the poor, and you'll need a flak jacket.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--1.17pm.Seattle.2019
            SteveCarroll  cb25806d-919a-4ed9-9023-e0f735c75c9a@googlegroups.com
          MrChrisV  7gu69elp9v3vvdm9qu1d3pl6usm3tccu13@4ax.com
        SteveCarroll  f73ffa5e-9444-4175-bb5c-919c2e2010a5@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  vf779ed9g1u8dgi0nfa4o99r0asob0vt20@4ax.com
    SteveCarroll  2fbbc43a-d808-4787-9c4e-bbb683c311e5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.21--11.39am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 12  m222 Mad; 3.3 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 21 {  7:37am, 2019 }:35^(PDT)  Xɨʒɟ
      Score: ChrisV 0, Relf 1.

Speaking of me, MrChrisV once wrote:
" it certainly looks like we was eschewing the 
  importance of compiler warnings.  "

Steve Carroll rightly noted:
> Not "some".... just "compiler warnings", without qualifiers,
> meaning "ALL" compiler warnings.

I'm surprised it only took 14.5 years to resolve this issue.
Score: ChrisV 0, Relf 1.
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6pn89$4il$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36fa1624e6b37e6a1aa3@news.eternal-september.org
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6v22u$pa$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--10.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m123 Cool; 27 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 20 {  8:57pm, 2019 }:13^(2)  XɨdΣ
      To remain in paradise, don't have kids.

Kensi wrote:
> seek an end to capitalism to save the planet
> from catastrophic climate change.

You're drinking Jim Jones' Soviet Kool-Aid.

Compared to India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and southern China,
your blue-eyed Finland is essentially nothing, empty.

Only feminism can save us from overpopulation.
To remain in paradise, don't have kids.
Macau and Singapore have the fewest kids per woman.
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              Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  f2s29etk3k1cudsqvrvlcu7is7vvhdl383@4ax.com
            TheSnitBot  gfdfibFplj4U1@mid.individual.net
          AndrzejMatuch  ywqkE.150602$y65.52688@fx44.iad
        TheSnitBot  gff887F6t7vU3@mid.individual.net
      AndrzejMatuch  qbwkE.46057$I6.42220@fx27.iad
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6v1ss$pa$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--10.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m123 Cool; 30.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 20 {  8:53pm, 2019 }:58^(2)  Xɨcჴ
      The filthy rich.

Kensi wrote:
> No, we need to punish conservatives for being cheats, liars, thieves, 
> traitors, and greedy fucking bastards who want to throw large swathes of 
> the population under the bus so they can hog a larger slice of the pie.

Democrats are the party of the filthy rich;
of those earning $250+ thousand per year, 2016,
53% were Hillary supporters, compared to 25% for Trump.

Our FilthyRich government, cum doomsday cult, 
would tax our "evil" food and fuel, 
like they tax our "evil" tobacco; hence YellowVests.

Piss off the rich, and you'll hear it on CNN;
piss off the poor, and you'll need a flak jacket.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--7.52am.Seattle.2019
            AndrzejMatuch  katkE.114519$g44.112221@fx13.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--2.34pm.Seattle.2019
        BenJacoby  q6uc81$13gu$1@gioia.aioe.org
      AndrzejMatuch  GkzkE.145000$YA4.130611@fx05.iad
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  d7j59e5097bg72vlfkeu1sv26d8h27ij8s@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--10.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m31 Cool; 4.9 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 20 {  4:31pm, 2019 }:49^(-7)  Xɧჱɭ
      Why Snit's family hasn't moved to Seattle.

As to why Snit's family hasn't moved to Seattle, Klaus wrote:
> Well, he'd probably have to scrape together a security deposit,

No, many charities would pay his "move-in costs".

> apply for new welfare programs, if he moved.

No, that wouldn't be a problem.

The main problems would be:

- He couldn't afford the monthly rent,
  or wouldn't live in a wet tent/caravan.

- He wouldn't subject his wife & kids to the  heroin/meth  culture.

" The Philippines lowers criminal age to 12,
  President Duterte originally favoured age 9. ", Jan 24, 2019

    YouTube.COM/watch?v=fCiCWM8jJ2w
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--7.52am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  katkE.114519$g44.112221@fx13.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--2.34pm.Seattle.2019
    HerbertGlazier  b6453a3c-fcb7-4115-b2ce-85cbff54ef61@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--4.12pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m261 Top; 37.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar 20 {  3:23pm, 2019 }:44^(PDT)  Xɧქღ
      Why does he need jail ?

Bert:
> If there's room in jail, it'll be his lucky day. 
> If not, he's dead meat.

Why does he need jail ?
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--7.52am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  katkE.114519$g44.112221@fx13.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--2.34pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q6uc81$13gu$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--3.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m11 Dropped; 4.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 20 {  2:44pm, 2019 }:34^(-4)  Xɧჟʚ
      Duterte is a Hitleresque activist.

Speaking of Seattle, BenJacoby replied ( to me ):
> bowing your head and saying a SILENT prayer in McDonald's
> will get beaten if not outright arrested.

Absolutely not, quite the opposite; you'd get respect.
However, we'd assume you were engaged in transcendental meditation,
not praying to Jesus.

> doing violence to anyone you call "Hitler"
> is simply showing you CARE.  Who can be against that ?

You're describing Marxist activists; I'm not an activist.
Duterte is a Hitleresque activist.

World War II, Germany had a mega high-tech battleship called "Bismarck";
on his first voyage, it was sunk by a World War I biplane !

It's submarines worked, at first, because no one was prepared for it;
once people knew about it, it was over.  No contest.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--7.52am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  katkE.114519$g44.112221@fx13.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--2.34pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m23 Cool; 5.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 20 {  8:41am, 2019 }: 6^(-4)  XɧТр
      No Hitleresque "final solution".

AndrzejMatuch replied ( to me ):
> > San Francisco is the only city with a higher
> > theft/damage rate, per person.
> > " Seattle is Dying " by KOMO TV, Mar 17, 2019
> 
> It's what happens to society when you remove God 
> and replace Him with the state.  May Seattle rot in Hell.

Seattle is the opposite of Hitler, Stalin, and Duterte.
Duterte kisses random girls on the lips, and slaughters drugies
( a Hitleresque "final solution", he asserts ).

Trespass all over Seattle, break car windows to steal laptops,
while carrying 30 doses of meth, and fighting off 6 cops;
no problem, you're free to go, enjoy your day; no "final solution".
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              TheSnitBot  gfd6u7FnrnbU1@mid.individual.net
            Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  f2s29etk3k1cudsqvrvlcu7is7vvhdl383@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  gfdfibFplj4U1@mid.individual.net
        AndrzejMatuch  ywqkE.150602$y65.52688@fx44.iad
      TheSnitBot  gff887F6t7vU3@mid.individual.net
    AndrzejMatuch  qbwkE.46057$I6.42220@fx27.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--1.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m151 Mad; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 20 {   : 7pm, 2019 }: 4^(-4)  Xɧхȶ
      TheSnitBot spews talking points; it can't think.

Looking in the mirror, TheSnitBot repeats:
> > You reject the evidence and go with what you want to be true.

AndrzejMatuch replies:
> It's truly impossible to talk to you.

TheSnitBot spews talking points; it can't think.

Democrats are the party of the filthy rich;
of those earning $250+ thousand per year, 2016,
53% were Hillary supporters, compared to 25% for Trump.

Our FilthyRich government, cum doomsday cult, 
would tax our "evil" food and fuel, 
like they tax our "evil" tobacco; hence YellowVests.

Piss off the rich, and you'll hear it on CNN;
piss off the poor, and you'll need a flak jacket.
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              MrChrisV  v2th8e5ap4bscas28fhptred1gf43p5p10@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  3c924f79-c619-4bfb-a617-aea428ecffc6@googlegroups.com
          MrChrisV  nq3i8e5d7sbe2vt8oi07opkk483o89lu0m@4ax.com
        MrChrisV  mcli8e9u3j51lahq4qr67msj63kjbtmjc0@4ax.com
      MrDFS  z5ukE.126717$KB3.6451@fx02.iad
    SteveCarroll  7be357e6-b880-4b18-a80f-0e2ec707a339@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--1.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m207 Mad; 2.6 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 20 {  9:59am, 2019 }:48^(PDT)  XɧЯც
      Relf ignores a few, select, level-4 compiler warnings.

Steve Carroll:
> Relf's apparently well known history of "eschewing" compiler warnings.

I ignore a few, select, level-4 compiler warnings;
( Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM ).

ChrisV  could've/should've  argued the importance of certain warnings,
instead of pretending that I ignore ALL warnings, always.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.20--7.52am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Seattle has decriminalized damn near everything.

Seattle has decriminalized damn near everything,
including "illegal" immigration, car burglaries, 
possessing 30 doses of heroin/meth, minor assault, etc.

Apartment managers, like me, aren't allowed 
to know/discover a tenant's criminal history.

San Francisco is the only city with a higher 
theft/damage rate, per person.

" Seattle is Dying " by KOMO TV, Mar 17, 2019
YouTube.COM/watch?v=b53uiRFq4Ds
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          JohnGohde  dcc333f2-6992-4a69-9a19-10f29f370bd6@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  f%UjE.28895$e54.9530@fx09.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--3.45pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  kQ6kE.18422$434.14401@fx29.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.19--9.08am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 10  m87 Top; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 19 {  7:15am, 2019 }: 8^(-4)  XɧMΝ
      In the tropics, you NEED darker skin !

MrDFS to me:
> > My closest friends are Muslims/Blacks/Africans/Indonesians;
> > there're fine people.  If you think otherwise,
> > you probably haven't met them.
> 
> If they're your friends, they're not doing well (financially).

"Fresh off the boat" they're poor; but they don't stay that way.

One of my friends, Ulil, is a devout Muslim from Indonesia;
he has a fine wife and two small kids; he's finishing up his doctorate
at the University of Washington; his car and apartment are super nice.

Michael, a black friend of mine since 1988, is retired;
he drives a nice car, continually travels the world,
and has a new(ish) home on a "ranch", near Washington DC.

Guylene, fresh from the Congo, and her husband, mFumu, are tenants of mine;
he makes 60$ thousand per year; she's an amazing housewife.
Guylene makes feminists look sick.

> > The world is shrinking, we have to get along.
> 
> "world is shrinking" == non-Whites leaving their shitholes 
> and being welcomed into White, Western countries.

The vast majority of them are still there, in the tropics, doing fine.
In the tropics, you fucking NEED darker skin !
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--6.53pm.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  getqmuFck3sU2@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.39pm.Seattle.2019
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ck5s$1tt9$3@gioia.aioe.org
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  gr709epqpfuuspblj4qfvr0rl7h54f03n0@4ax.com
    TheSnitBot  gfalpgF6qm3U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--4.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m220 Dropped; 21 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 18 {  3:52pm, 2019 }:32^(-7)  XɦϓО
      Piss off the poor, and you'll need a flak jacket.

TheSnitBot:
> I never hear liberals speak of George Soros.
> Why do conservatives obsess over him ?

Democrats truly are the party of the filthy rich.
Of those earning $250+ thousand per year, 2016,
53% were Hillary supporters, compared to 25% for Trump.

Our FilthyRich government, cum doomsday cult, 
would tax our "evil" food and fuel, 
like they tax our "evil" tobacco; hence YellowVests.

Piss off the rich, and you'll hear it on CNN;
piss off the poor, and you'll need a flak jacket.
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      HerbertGlazier  0716f7c7-df0d-4b99-80d9-7e5c921999df@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  0970894d-8aae-4987-8eab-39b1e0183baa@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--3.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m58 Top; 11.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Mar 18 {  3:34pm, 2019 }:20^(PDT)  XɦϐВ
      Intrinsic reality is analog.

> Do you think gravity is digital rather than analog?

"Virtual Reality" ( video games ) are digital;
intrinsic reality is analog.
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      JohnGohde  dcc333f2-6992-4a69-9a19-10f29f370bd6@googlegroups.com
    AndrzejMatuch  f%UjE.28895$e54.9530@fx09.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--3.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  m119 Mad; 4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 18 {  3:31pm, 2019 }:39^(-4)  Xɦϐɣ
      My closest friends are Muslims/Blacks/Africans/Indonesians.

JohnGohde, AndrzejMatuch:
> > The ONLY good Muslim is a dead Muslim.
> 
> +1

My closest friends are Muslims/Blacks/Africans/Indonesians;
there're fine people.  If you think otherwise, 
you probably haven't met them.

If they're doing better than you, up your game.
The world is shrinking, we have to get along.
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              TheSnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  e1qt8elidfjedgpib6847mo7fm9g628d3o@4ax.com
          TheSnitBot  gf8glgFmo30U1@mid.individual.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.05pm.Seattle.2019
      TheSnitBot  gf91enFq4daU1@mid.individual.net
    TheSnitBot  gf9k3eFu2msU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--6.35am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    -Dropped, 10.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 18 {  6:17am, 2019 }:34  Xɦʄნ
      TheSnitBot projects your his onto others.

Replying to the wrong post, TheSnitBot (bork)replied:
> > Our FilthyRich government, cum doomsday cult, 
> > would tax our "evil" food and fuel, 
> > like they tax our "evil" tobacco; hence YellowVests.
> 
> Jeff Relf responded by snipping and blaming me for his poor behavior. 

Just have a discussion, add something of value, if you can.

You can't, of course; so you project your faults onto others.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  e1qt8elidfjedgpib6847mo7fm9g628d3o@4ax.com
        TheSnitBot  gf8glgFmo30U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.05pm.Seattle.2019
    TheSnitBot  gf91enFq4daU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.18--5.45am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m142 Dropped; 4.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 18 {   :59am, 2019 }:19  Xɦɍэ
      TheSnitBot is INCAPABLE of holding a discussion.

Last 14+ years, you (TheSnitBot) continuously replied:
> just have a discussion... add something of value.

Everyone knows that you're INCAPABLE of holding a discussion;
you're a robot, programed to spew out the talking points
of your ridiculous doomsday cult.

Your FilthyRich government would tax our (evil) food and fuel, 
like they tax our (evil) tobacco.
You haven't fooled the YellowVests, in France.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  e1qt8elidfjedgpib6847mo7fm9g628d3o@4ax.com
        TheSnitBot  gf8glgFmo30U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.05pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  gf8q1jFodv5U3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--11.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m22 Top; 8.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Mar 17 { 10:52pm, 2019 }:52  Xɦwв
      TheSnitBot's doomsday cult is NOT science.

Scott Doty replied to my SnitBot quote:
> > > it's wrong to go with the best scientific evidence.
> 
> Nice quote out of context, lame-brain.

No one but TheSnitBot says it ( while looking in the mirror ); 
he's projecting his faults onto others.
His fucking doomsday cult is NOT science.

The SuperRich government wants to further tax us little people, 
taxing our (evil) food and fuel, like they tax our (evil) tobacco,
so they can get another big, fat cut of the action.

You haven't fooled the YellowVests, in France.

> Remember a few months ago when I posted an Einstein quote, 
> and you told me that it wasn't Einstein, 
> then I provided multiple citations that it was?

No, I don't believe that happened.
Compared to most people, I'm an expert on Einstein.

> there's a ladle with your name on it -- best get on that.

The only shit I see is what you've written here.
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            .  q6copv$ju9$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  e1qt8elidfjedgpib6847mo7fm9g628d3o@4ax.com
    TheSnitBot  gf8glgFmo30U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--9.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m140 Dropped; 33.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 17 {  8:12pm, 2019 }:47^(-7)  XɦWl
      Prove to us your IQ is above forty.

Last 14+ years, TheSnitBot continuously replied:
> > You are such a brainwashed fool.
> 
> Personal attacks, from those who troll, show their own insecurity.
> 
> it's wrong to go with the best scientific evidence.

Prove to us your IQ is above forty,
and someone might start listening to you, maybe.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f6963f14038aa49969ca@news.altopia.com
            Pandora│pandora@peak_org  c2fklf.tgl.17.4@news.alt.net
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f715e0876ddc569969d7@news.altopia.com
        MsNadegda  q6jtee$ju9$28@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--10.37pm.Seattle.2019
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6l36u$14to$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.17--3.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 7  m123 Cool; 1.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 17 {  2:15am, 2019 }:11^(2)  XɥνΠ
      The government already has most of the wealth.

Kensi:
> What we need is increased taxes on *wealth*, plus a carbon tax, 
> plus redistribution to the poorer, and massive public works projects

The government already has most of the wealth;
so "tax" them ( by taxing civilians less ).

Us little people don't benefit from added taxes on food and fuel,
after you've taken your cut ( for your jets, fine dining, and hotels ).

Also, please stop dreaming about how you'll spend "my" money;
I am not now, nor will I ever be, a member of your doomsday cult.

> > Feminism is the perfect example of how
> > demanding more than the market price is doomed to fail.
> 
> Nadegda doesn't have a market price. 
> She's not a commodity, you misogynistic k00k!

Keep demanding more, and offering less;
see how far that'll get you, you self-proclaimed kook.
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            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6iige$8pn$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f6963f14038aa49969ca@news.altopia.com
        Pandora│pandora@peak_org  c2fklf.tgl.17.4@news.alt.net
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f715e0876ddc569969d7@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  q6jtee$ju9$28@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--10.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m79 Top; 6.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 16 {  3:30pm, 2019 }:39  Xɥɩd
      MsNadegda's doomsday cult.

MsNadegda:
> people are willing to sell future generations down the river
> to avoid inconveniencing a few billionaire fossil fuel investors

You say that as if none of us are consumers of food or fuel;
as if we'd somehow benefit from your increased taxes on food and fuel;
as if we'd want to belong to your fucking doomsday cult.

Feminism is the perfect example of how 
demanding more than the market price is doomed to fail.
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        MitchellRaemsch  21f4f84b-b311-4d0c-9477-bd4c6912f0b0@googlegroups.com
      MitchellRaemsch  c7124070-133e-48f2-808d-85a6739fd4fd@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  f94fb402-746a-48c5-8fc7-9f2e2ea5c33b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m230 Top; 1.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar 16 {  1: 4pm, 2019 }:51^(PDT)  Xɥɐб
      The more a place is "GOP right wing", the fewer the "HUD fire traps".

Herbert Glazier:
> paying 2,750$ a month for a GOPer HUD fire trap.

The more a place is "GOP right wing", the fewer the "HUD fire traps".
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f39909e6be622a996936@news.altopia.com
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6d24a$1q3k$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f41b92accd8301996940@news.altopia.com
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fk5t$12ts$6@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f527b4776b89a4996989@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ij97$8pn$6@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--11.29am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m119 Cool; 6.9 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 16 {  3:31am, 2019 }:  ^(2)  Xɤყy
      First you vilify food and fuel...

Kensi:
> > > > > The ONLY people with motive are the BIG FOSSIL FUEL
> > > > > PLUTOCRATS, i.e. "the Kochs et. al.".
> 
> Do you have another suspect in mind ? 
> Someone else who would target someone for 
> their public position on climate change ?

Sure, anyone who'd avoid your doomsday cult.

First you vilify food and fuel, 
the you tax the hell out of it,
then you use the money to put down resistance.

Lucky for us, feminists are mostly sterile.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6iige$8pn$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--11.15am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m119 Cool; 7.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 16 {  3:17am, 2019 }:47^(2)  Xɤფჩ
      Greta can be deprogrammed.

Greta, the 16-year-old Swedish activist, can be deprogrammed.

  Thanks to oil, coal, and gas, 
  we " make bread from air " ( the Haber process ).

  First "they" ( Al Gore robots ) vilify/tax the tobacco industry,
  so everyone has to pay them 10$ a pack;
  now they want to vilify/tax food, air-conditioning and heating, 
  to fill their pockets even more.

  They're just another tribe, in the mix, fighting for power;
  not everyone is dying to join their doomsday cult.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--9.24am.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gevdlvFn7r9U1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--10.09am.Seattle.2019
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fjoh$12ts$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--7.44am.Seattle.2019
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ij2q$8pn$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.16--11.02am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m119 Cool; 7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 16 {  3:27am, 2019 }:35^(2)  Xɤღπ
      It wouldn't be the first time Al Gore "raped" someone.

Kensi replied ( to me ):
> > Al Gore has his hand up Kensi's ass;
> > she says whatever he tells her to.
> 
> Interesting that you'd make a rape accusation on my behalf.

I thought you gave consent, my bad.
It wouldn't be the first time Al Gore "raped" someone.
" Portland woman says Al Gore groped her in hotel room ":
OregonLive.COM/portland/2010/06/prosecutor_al_gore_was_focus_o.html

> > Plants prefer warmer weather, with more carbon dioxide;
> > likewise, people prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.
> 
> Then explain why I moved to Helsinki instead of Hyderabad, k0ok.

21 million reside in-and-around Mexico City; that's 7 Helsinkis.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--11.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Al Gore robots.

Thanks to oil, coal, and gas, 
we " make bread from air " ( the Haber process ).

First "they" ( Al Gore robots ) vilify/tax the tobacco industry,
so everyone has to pay them 10$ a pack;
now they want to vilify/tax food, air-conditioning and heating, 
to fill their pockets even more.

They're just another tribe, in the mix, fighting for power;
not everyone is dying to join their doomsday cult.
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6cjg1$1tt9$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA12492AEF21Egreyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fkb0$12ts$8@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--8.22am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m115 Cool; 6.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {   :30am, 2019 }:39^(2)  XɤɁd
      Fighting for power.

Kensi to Avenging_Angel:
> > Klimate Kooks should be attacked. 
> > They are a clear and present danger to civilization.
> 
> I wholeheartedly agree.  Arrested and charged with genocide, even. 
> Starting with the Kochs.
>   
> Then on to their paid shills, and pocket Rapepublican Congresspeople.
> And working on down to eventually include you.

Not everyone wants to join your stupid-ass cult, Kensi.

First you vilify/tax the tobacco industry,
so everyone has to pay YOU 10$ a pack;

now you want to vilify/tax air-conditioning and heating, 
to fill your pockets even more.

You're just another tribe there, in the mix, fighting for power.
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              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f3878996fcf5f8996925@news.altopia.com
            MsNadegda  q6cpd9$ju9$7@dont-email.me
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f39909e6be622a996936@news.altopia.com
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6d24a$1q3k$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f41b92accd8301996940@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fk5t$12ts$6@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--8.06am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m115 Cool; 6.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {   :27am, 2019 }:56^(2)  XɤɀϜ
      Anyone who consumes oil, coal, or gas.

Kensi asked:
> > > The only people with motive are the big fossil fuel
> > > plutocrats, i.e. "the Kochs et. al.".
> > 
> > Proof Ko0kie?
> 
> Who else would target someone for 
> their public position on climate change ?

Anyone who consumes oil, coal, or gas 
and doesn't want to be taxed/vilified like the tobacco industry.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fiuk$vm2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--7.59am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 7  m115 Cool; 7.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {   : 6am, 2019 }:58^(2)  XɤȽw
      Kensi's cult is (mostly) incapable of breeding.

Kensi:
> Young people are leading the way:

Your cult is (mostly) incapable of breeding;
in fact, that's only thing I like about it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--10.09am.Seattle.2019
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fjoh$12ts$2@gioia.aioe.org
          ！Sir_Greg  6-6dnWViu-z6zhbBnZ2dnUU7-eHNnZ2d@giganews.com
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fkjk$12ts$10@gioia.aioe.org
      ！Sir_Greg  F_GdnQgJ5sQ1yhbBnZ2dnUU7-fHNnZ2d@giganews.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fle6$1aj9$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--7.53am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 8  m115 Cool; 6.4 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {   :49am, 2019 }:24^(2)  XɤɌɔ
      Every cult needs an apocalypse; Al Gore is no exception.

Kensi wrote:
> Relf is robotically predictable

....said the lady who never deviates from Al Gore's talking points.

Every cult needs an apocalypse; Al Gore is no exception.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
            TheSnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--9.24am.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gevdlvFn7r9U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--10.09am.Seattle.2019
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fjoh$12ts$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--7.44am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 10  m115 Cool; 6.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {   :20am, 2019 }:48^(2)  Xɤȿʨ
      Al Gore has his hand up Kensi's ass;

Kensi replied:
> > TheSnitBot doesn't pass the Turing test.
> 
> irony meter. :P

Al Gore has his hand up your ass; 
you say whatever he tells you to.

Your cult is just one of many, duking it out.

Plants prefer warmer weather, with more carbon dioxide;
likewise, people prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

The North Pole was tropical 55 million years ago, 
when/where we primates first appeared.

Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
The hot/dense sun is dissipating into the cold/sparse void.
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ck5s$1tt9$3@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
          ！Sir_Greg  QbCdnfsMPrczRxTBnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@giganews.com
        MsNadegda  q6copv$ju9$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6fjlu$12ts$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.15--7.28am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 11  m115 Cool; 6.9 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 15 {   :19am, 2019 }:24^(2)  Xɤȿɔ
      Pop Sci-Fi.

Kensi put on her "big girl" panties and replied:
> > Gravity is residual exergy, entropy ( negative pressure ) is killing it off.
> 
> BWAHAHahahahahhhh ...*gasp*

Lambda-CDM, not "zero point energy", is mainstream cosmology;
your Pop Sci-Fi is a 120 orders of magnitude off.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--9.17pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Every cult needs an apocalypse; Al Gore is no exception.

Every cult needs an apocalypse; Al Gore is no exception.

How Well Do Scientists Understand Global Warming ?
by America Uncovered, Mar 14, 2019 :

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=xtBxI_ydba4
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            .  q6copv$ju9$2@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
        TheSnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--9.24am.Seattle.2019
    TheSnitBot  gevdlvFn7r9U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--10.09am.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m116 Dropped; 25.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 14 {  9:26am, 2019 }:39  XɣЪʟ
      TheSnitBot doesn't pass the Turing test.

Last 15+ years, hundreds have unanimously concluded:

  TheSnitBot doesn't pass the Turing test.

Your "MainStream Media" ( Pop Sci-Fi ) cult has programed you;
you will not, you cannot, deviate from their talking points.
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              Owl  szx9v03083.ahe@rooftop.invalid
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.27am.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  e9aedb06-1b54-4022-a530-10f7bd3b1371@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.55am.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  5230f43e-10b7-4dd9-8d8e-cd6fd1bd20c7@googlegroups.com
    TheSnitBot  gevdboFn5r9U2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--9.58am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m116 Dropped; 30.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 14 {  9:21am, 2019 }:13  XɣЩΣ
      There be dragons.

My professional code and, to a much lesser extent, my private code,
are well documented OUTSIDE of the source code;
inside source code, I've no need to comment anything.

If you need to comment the source code, and I see it,
a red flag will pop up saying: " There be dragons. ".
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        .  q6copv$ju9$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
    SnitBot  gev6bsFllu2U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--9.24am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m113 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Individual.NET,  Mar 14 {  7:21am, 2019 }:48  XɣЕϓ
      TheSnitBot.

You (Snit) replied ( to me ):
> > Kensi and the SnitBot barf up the mainstream media, I don't.
> > I go with actual science, not the fake stuff ( Pop Sci-Fi ).
> 
> You already made it clear you reject the consensus 
> on man made climate change. 

Please ask your cult if "you" (TheSnitBot)
couldn't be reprogrammed work slightly better, more human.

As I've repeatedly told you, last few days, months, years:
" man made climate change " is real; real good for us.
Plants prefer warmer weather, with more carbon dioxide;
likewise, people prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

The North Pole was tropical 55 million years ago, 
when/where we primates first appeared.
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6cjg1$1tt9$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36f3878996fcf5f8996925@news.altopia.com
    MsNadegda  q6cpd9$ju9$7@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.31am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m77 Top; 4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 13 { 10:38pm, 2019 }:49  XɣΑʩ
      "The MainStream Media" ( Pop Sci-Fi ) is a vicious cult.

"The MainStream Media" ( Pop Sci-Fi ) is a vicious cult;
yet another tribe there, in the fight.
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              SnitBot  getqmuFck3sU2@mid.individual.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.39pm.Seattle.2019
          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ck5s$1tt9$3@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
      ！Sir_Greg  QbCdnfsMPrczRxTBnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@giganews.com
    MsNadegda  q6copv$ju9$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.14--3.12am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m77 Top; 4.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 13 { 10:28pm, 2019 }:31  XɣʮН
      Pop Sci-Fi.

You (Nadegda) replied ( to me and some random coward ):
> > > Unlike Kensi and the SnitBot, I think; I'm not a cult member.
> 
> [ citation needed ]

Kensi and the SnitBot barf up the mainstream media, I don't.
I go with actual science, not the fake stuff ( Pop Sci-Fi ).

> > > I subscribe to the Copenhagen Interpretation,
> > > the mainstream interpretation,
> 
> That would be the "interpretation" that basically 
> just says "shit happens", IIRC.

Educate yourself, please; it's " Shut up and calculate. "
or: " Figures don't lie, but liars figure. ".

> I seem to remember kensi pretty thoroughly destroying
> you on that point, a few months ago.

You're a fine cult member, in good standing; enjoy your Kool-Aid.

> > > I believe in Lambda-CDM ( mainstream cosmology ); 
> > > your (pop) " no entropy " view is off by 120-orders-of-magnitude.
> 
> [citation needed]

Really ? !
Since when did a cult member care about truthiness ?

From " Dark Energy and the Preposterous Universe "
by Sean M. Carroll, Enrico Fermi Institute
( YouTube.COM/user/seancarroll/videos ):

  ...the potential energy of the Higgs field...
  ...the condensate of quark bilinears...
  ...zero-point vacuum fluctuations...
  This is the famous 120-orders-of-magnitude discrepancy 
  that makes the cosmological constant problem
  such a glaring embarrassment.

WikiPedia: <<

  If the cosmological constant is positive, 
  -- as appears to be the case in recent observations --,
  the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value,
  and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy.  >>

Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot/dense star in a cold vacuum ?
Gravity is residual exergy, entropy ( negative pressure ) is killing it off.

Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.

> > welcome to 1930, then.
> 
> That does seem to be the theme of the times, doesn't it ? :P

I suggest you learn 2019 science 
before venturing on to the history of it.
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            .  q3nqir$ev3$4@dont-email.me
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  V4M7E.145997$wz4.128280@fx10.iad
        ChrisAhlstrom  q3qhbf$e4m$2@dont-email.me
      Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  GU38E.218354$o84.194398@fx42.iad
    RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q6clus$5kb$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m6 Shifty; 6.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 13 {  9:39pm, 2019 }:56  XɣʦϜ
      When I see "malware", the phrase "clueless idiot" pops into my head.

RonB wrote:
> on Windows, malware is not a niche product.

When I see "malware", the phrase "clueless idiot" pops into my head.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--6.53pm.Seattle.2019
            SnitBot  getqmuFck3sU2@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.39pm.Seattle.2019
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ck5s$1tt9$3@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
    ！Sir_Greg  QbCdnfsMPrczRxTBnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m46 Dropped; 21 Secs, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM,  Mar 13 {  9:38pm, 2019 }: 6^(-5)  Xɣʦɾ
      Your cult has programmed you, and you will NOT deviate.

You ( a random coward ) replied ( to me ):
> > I subscribe to the Copenhagen Interpretation, 
> > the mainstream interpretation, and you don't; 
> > you're into the (pop) sci-fi shit: random worlds.
> > 
> > Unlike you, I believe in Lambda-CDM ( mainstream cosmology );
> > your (pop) "no entropy" view is off by 120-orders-of-magnitude.
> 
> welcome to 1930, then.

You're unfamiliar with 2019 science, much less 1930.

Your cult has programmed you, and you will NOT deviate.
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              Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  aV%gE.55069$1Q7.46042@fx46.iad
            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q621v2$g3q$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--6.53pm.Seattle.2019
        SnitBot  getqmuFck3sU2@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.39pm.Seattle.2019
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q6ck5s$1tt9$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m105 Cool; 4.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 13 {  9: 9pm, 2019 }:33^(2)  Xɣʡξ
      I think; I'm not a cult member.

You (Kensi) replied ( to me ):
> > You're a mindless robot, SnitBot,
> > incapable of thinking outside of your programming.
> > You're a brainwashed, Kool-Aid drinking, cult member.
> 
> How ironic, coming from one of the most repetitive and formulaic posters 
> on all of Usenet.  Precisely how many times have you repeated that canned 
> spiel about entropy and the north pole just in the past month ?

Unlike you and the SnitBot, I think; I'm not a cult member.

Still, I subscribe to the Copenhagen Interpretation, 
the mainstream interpretation, and you don't;
you're into the (pop) sci-fi shit: random worlds.

Unlike you, I believe in Lambda-CDM ( mainstream cosmology );
your "no entropy" view is off by 120-orders-of-magnitude.
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            kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q620hh$aor$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  aV%gE.55069$1Q7.46042@fx46.iad
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q621v2$g3q$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--6.53pm.Seattle.2019
    SnitBot  getqmuFck3sU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    -Dropped, 35.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar 13 {  6:56pm, 2019 }:46^(-7)  Xɣʋʦ
      SnitBot's a brainwashed, Kool-Aid drinking, cult member.

SnitBot replied:
> > Centuries of conflict in the Middle East
> > has nothing to do with the warmer climate.
> 
> Do you accept the scientific consensus?

"Usefulness" outweighs "truthiness", always.

You're a mindless robot, SnitBot, 
incapable of thinking outside of your programming.

You're a brainwashed, Kool-Aid drinking, cult member.
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              SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q61rao$1kms$1@gioia.aioe.org
            casagiannoni@optonline_net  grt98ehadqr5l50d3mjkmo5fvp2j1c64ai@4ax.com
          SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q63n62$2sa$3@gioia.aioe.org
        casagiannoni@optonline_net  o9ua8edl0tavl262mf9ijccoajaqqcgpq1@4ax.com
      SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q64c1t$uoj$2@gioia.aioe.org
    casagiannoni@optonline_net  16kc8etetrjt4u5acoupv2nvrqom184cvm@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Alt.Astronomy
    ╱ 2  m12 Cool; 2.6 Days, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM,  Mar 11 {  5:20am, 2019 }:59^(-4)  XɡϱΔ
      "God" is nature; the (4-D) TimeScape is static, eternal.

"God" is nature; the (4-D) TimeScape is static, eternal.

The Known Universe is finite;
there's a horizon, beyond which we can't see.

  Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
  from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.

  12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
  695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
  the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

  The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
  hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
■
      Arindam_Banerjee│  041bd0de-1282-4ec4-99ef-fb63083cdbd8@googlegroups.com
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gelmq3Fjen6U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--7.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m20 Cool; 3.1 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Mar 10 {  5: 1pm, 2019 }: 3^(11)  Xɡɸȵ
      Only feminism can save us from overpopulation.

Sylvia:
> There is no conceivable way in which colonisation of space can be a 
> means of limiting population pressure on Earth.

Exactly, only feminism can save us from overpopulation.
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q620hh$aor$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com  aV%gE.55069$1Q7.46042@fx46.iad
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q621v2$g3q$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--6.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 14  m101 Cool; 3.9 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  9 {  8:57pm, 2019 }:16^(2)  XɠЯΦ
      Centuries of conflict in the Middle East.

Kensi replied:
> > Climate change does not threaten our existence.
> 
> Tell that to half a million dead Syrians, k0Ok.

Centuries of conflict in the Middle East
has nothing to do with the warmer climate.

  Plants prefer warmer weather, with more carbon dioxide;
  likewise, people prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

  The North Pole was tropical 55 million years ago, 
  when/where we primates first appeared.

  Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
  from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.

  12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
  695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
  the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

  The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
  hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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        HerbertGlazier  2d1e66c7-3b46-4118-8516-740517cf91e2@googlegroups.com
      MrAA  e74883b4-6032-4b7c-91e4-305d017dc6d7@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  a9ab87b5-7012-4f28-8b6d-def297f7050a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--6.09pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 35  m195 Top; 2.3 Days, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar 11 { 10:12am, 2019 }:12^(PDT)  XɡвC
      Berlin, 1915, transformed humanity from worms to butterflies.

Berlin, 1915, transformed humanity from worms to butterflies;
Einstein was there, under a Swiss passport.
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              MrDFS  S5RhE.54380$Xy5.4397@fx09.iad
            SteveCarroll  67df91d3-5494-4ecc-8a7b-d36f5b5a0641@googlegroups.com
          MrDFS  FG9iE.404$cD4.245@fx07.iad
        SteveCarroll  82ff5493-544e-4dfd-a85d-030a45e15f45@googlegroups.com
      SnitBot  gessj9F6c7nU1@mid.individual.net
    Little_Mac│littlemac@linuxmail_  q6c69q$r1b$4@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--5.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m11 Shifty; 17.3 Minutes, Pan, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 13 {  5:12pm, 2019 }:42  Xɣɺg
      LittleMac, BigDick.

SnitBot & LittleMac:
> > Show off your bot.   But you are not going to.
> 
> How long before Steve Carroll starts stalking chrisv or DFS ?

....said the man with the dick so big,
women can't have anyone else, after him.
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              MrChrisV  v2th8e5ap4bscas28fhptred1gf43p5p10@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  3c924f79-c619-4bfb-a617-aea428ecffc6@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.24am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  szx9v03083.ahe@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.27am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  e9aedb06-1b54-4022-a530-10f7bd3b1371@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m187 Mad; 36.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar 13 { 10:34am, 2019 }:52^(PDT)  Xɣtв
      A team of programmers can get confused.

Steve asked me:
> >  3. Create fewer/larger functions.
> >     Put everything in a single, large .CPP file -- don't create .H files.
> > 
> >     Sadly, I've failed to merge some of my .CPP files/apps
> >     because the required testing would be too expensive/painful;
> >     as a result, they're not as fresh/tested as they could be.
> 
> Do you always work on code that fits in a single document?

Ideally, Yes:  Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM

> If so, I can see fewer (or no) comments. 

Yes, we agree.

> OTOH, even relatively simple stuff, like for the web, can get pretty big;
> without any commenting you'd be wasting *lots* of time.

A team of programmers can get confused; hence comments.
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              MrDFS  pyYhE.25105$wQ3.10936@fx08.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.11pm.Seattle.2019
          MrDFS  hk9iE.516266$Rv.468589@fx41.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.01am.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  1053593c-919f-4f94-951c-94be7ddd2d60@googlegroups.com
    Owl  sxvbz0803ga.yh@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.33am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m59 Top; 24.4 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 13 { 10:46am, 2019 }:48  XɣvЮ
      Women reject big dicks.

Steve&Owl, to me:
> > > I recently had a hot girl here, in my room, for 4 hours;
> > > just me and her; she didn't complain, no one does.
> > 
> > She wanted to see if the rumors were true?
> 
> Maybe she was Japanese.

The brain is the sexiest thing a person can possess;
next, comes facial expressions.

" Somewhere Down The Crazy River " by Robbie Robertson, 1987:

    YouTube.COM/watch?v=4KP9PNSUME4

Outside the porn industry, women reject big dicks; see:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/OneInchIsEnough.JPG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Statue.of.David.JPG
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              MrChrisV  v2th8e5ap4bscas28fhptred1gf43p5p10@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  3c924f79-c619-4bfb-a617-aea428ecffc6@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.24am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  szx9v03083.ahe@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.27am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  sz9b0803agv.huo4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--11.19am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m59 Top; 26.6 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 13 { 10:44am, 2019 }:37  Xɣvʝ
      Request denied.

Owl joked:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
> 
> And if, instead of inadvertently commenting out a variable assignment,
> you had deleted it?  Let me guess...

Request denied.
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              SteveCarroll  87206c08-dd9e-40d7-9d7c-17dfee88fe29@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  8nuf8e1in4pv5apa2bc987hcf8i43qlv2e@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  v2th8e5ap4bscas28fhptred1gf43p5p10@4ax.com
        SteveCarroll  3c924f79-c619-4bfb-a617-aea428ecffc6@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.24am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  szx9v03083.ahe@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.27am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m57 Top; 7 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 13 {  9:41am, 2019 }:50  Xɣkწ
      Comments == "serious, unresolved issues".

Owl joked:
> As I showed you once before, unused variable warnings can be
> important.  If you accidentally comment out an assignment with
> that warning turned off, it can lead to bad data being processed
> with no noticeable problem during testing.

When I see comments in code, I think to myself:

  There lie serious, unresolved issues;
  the coder doesn't know what he's doing.

Sometimes there really are unresolved issues;
and I need to comment something out TEMPORARILY.

Then, I don't want to be adding&subtracting 
the same fucking variables, all the time.

Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
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              MrDFS  KAQhE.15763$sl7.7453@fx26.iad
            Owl  g80a8s0ab83t.aghu3@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  sb9s0b903g.huo@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--8.51am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  szxb083ga.g4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.17am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m57 Top; 33.2 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 13 {  9:15am, 2019 }:42  Xɣgχ
      Use a console, monospaced fonts, instead of windows.

You (Owl) replied ( to me ):
> > A console is a GUI ( slrn uses it ).
> 
> There is no need for the client to use a console in this case.
> The app is a GUI app. Are you blind ?    imgur.com/a/87qmmGs

Use a console, monospaced fonts, instead of windows,
running off a settings file, like my "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM".

MrDFS should try it, I think.
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              SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
            MrDFS  jT_fE.3433$2L4.3021@fx43.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.15pm.Seattle.2019
        MrDFS  pyYhE.25105$wQ3.10936@fx08.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.11pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  hk9iE.516266$Rv.468589@fx41.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--10.01am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m106 Top; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 13 {  8:29am, 2019 }:36^(-4)  XɣYპ
      Your wife's values have been imposed on you.

MrDFS to me:
> > > bath mirror $30
> > 
> > I'm not a woman.
> 
> You need a mirror to inspect your tooth after you brush it.

I don't brush it.

Your wife's values have been imposed on you; you're her slave.

> You consider it nice to shit in a soup ladle, then transfer your shit 
> into [ the Vittles Vault ] and leave it in your living space 
> until it's full [ five weeks later ], then dispose of it ?

More than nice, yes.

I recently had a hot girl here, in my room, for 4 hours;
just me and her; she didn't complain, no one does.

Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.
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              MrChrisV  5ucf8e1fk2a1ku1urj7mssur5pkb68b7g4@4ax.com
            The_Natural_Philosopher│tnp  q692bt$8pc$2@dont-email.me
          Java_Jive│java@evij_com_  q693c9$8g2$1@gioia.aioe.org
        The_Natural_Philosopher│tnp  q69f99$rrj$1@dont-email.me
      Java_Jive│java@evij_com_  q6air2$m18$1@gioia.aioe.org
    The_Natural_Philosopher│tnp  q6b2j3$6si$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.44am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Misc, Alt.OS.Linux
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar 13 {  7: 3am, 2019 }:15^(0)  XɣKΥ
      No one ever got rich by demanding something he didn't deserve.

> Russia is more democratic than the EU.

No one ever got rich by demanding something he didn't deserve.
Unions killed Detroit; feminism killed marriage.

Without pervasive illegalities ( sanctioned illegalities ), 
Europe would be more of a third-rate "union", after China and America.
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              SteveCarroll  0cfcc2cf-928d-4f05-81ec-2eb86f2fa273@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  30jf8eli71ma762aamvvut2i3bm32q951d@4ax.com
          SteveCarroll  87206c08-dd9e-40d7-9d7c-17dfee88fe29@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  8nuf8e1in4pv5apa2bc987hcf8i43qlv2e@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  v2th8e5ap4bscas28fhptred1gf43p5p10@4ax.com
    SteveCarroll  3c924f79-c619-4bfb-a617-aea428ecffc6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.24am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m174 Mad; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar 13 {  6:52am, 2019 }:22^(PDT)  XɣIД
      I don't care if there are unused variables or not.

I treat some ( not all ) level-4 warnings as errors.

MrChrisV is upset that I IGNORE some of them; 
e.g. I don't care if there are unused variables or not.

I go through some of the warnings,
and describe why I ignore them or not:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
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              SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
            MrDFS  jT_fE.3433$2L4.3021@fx43.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.15pm.Seattle.2019
        MrDFS  pyYhE.25105$wQ3.10936@fx08.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.11pm.Seattle.2019
    HughHuntzinger  578a4dae-4810-4b98-9db5-fefb79757f4b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--9.10am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m15 Top; 32 Secs, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Mar 13 {  8:16am, 2019 }:51^(PDT)  XɣWб
      Thank God for self-fusing tape.

Hugh told me:
> simplest solution is to use one Fernco fitting. 

PVC is soft; do it wrong, and you'd have black water leakage.

Copper pipe is soft too; expensive professionals get it wrong.
Thank God for self-fusing tape.

> less hauling of the filled bucket for disposal.

It's once every five weeks, no big deal;
with the fan going, no one even notices it.
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              MrDFS  E5FhE.122451$8K6.29711@fx28.iad
            Owl  szxv0083t.434@rooftop.invalid
          MrDFS  KAQhE.15763$sl7.7453@fx26.iad
        Owl  g80a8s0ab83t.aghu3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
    Owl  sb9s0b903g.huo@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.13--8.51am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╳ 1  m53 Top; 1.8 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 13 {  6:27am, 2019 }:33  XɣEξ
      A console is a GUI ( slrn uses it ).

You (Owl) replied ( to me ):
> > What makes you (Owl) think MrDFS' clients prefer esoteric
> > command lines over the standard, Microsoft Office ?
> 
> What command line?  It would be a GUI app.

A console is a GUI ( slrn uses it ).

Most people prefer the Microsoft standard; you aren't most people.

MrDFS is used to PowerShell (.NET), not bash.
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              .  7ccfe229-24ac-47d9-94ce-20b524d8d95e@googlegroups.com
            .  q69kso$m1q$1@dont-email.me
          .  7SYhE.94192$bK.68932@fx39.iad
        .  8b0a8s0b803gla.o3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.51pm.Seattle.2019
    BenJacoby  q6a504$pjn$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--11.34pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 1  m165 Dropped; 49.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Mar 12 { 10:38pm, 2019 }:12^(-4)  Xɢжʄ
      The wind just kind of pushed me this way.

BenJacoby asked me:
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT
> 
> Hey Rolf, did ever think to "learn to code" ?

No, the wind just kind of pushed me this way.

" Somewhere Down The Crazy River " by Robbie Robertson, 1987:

    YouTube.COM/watch?v=4KP9PNSUME4
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              SteveCarroll  050bdbff-49c0-4a23-9d9a-f9397fef424f@googlegroups.com
            MrDFS  uaXhE.126003$4v2.75506@fx47.iad
          SteveCarroll  7ccfe229-24ac-47d9-94ce-20b524d8d95e@googlegroups.com
        Little_Mac│littlemac@linuxmail_  q69kso$m1q$1@dont-email.me
      AndrzejMatuch  7SYhE.94192$bK.68932@fx39.iad
    Owl  8b0a8s0b803gla.o3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m52 Top; 2.7 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 12 {  6:29pm, 2019 }: 4  Xɢϼо
      Shitting is more important than coding.

Speaking of me, Steve Carroll and Owl commented:
> > > Relf used to be more cocky ( funny, too ) [ 14+ years ago ].
> > > Life seems to have rolled him, he's been beat down; 
> > > it's the bottom you're hitting, when into the ladle you're shitting.
> 
> Thank god for the Vittles Vault.

Shitting is more important than coding.
Happiness is an empty bladder.
Hydration, and hard candy, sooths the throat.
Lemon juice sooths the prostate.

  Jeff-Relf.Me/C++CodingRules.HTM
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT
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              MrDFS  NFwhE.124749$1Q7.80817@fx46.iad
            Owl  szb003gag.h4@rooftop.invalid
          MrDFS  E5FhE.122451$8K6.29711@fx28.iad
        Owl  szxv0083t.434@rooftop.invalid
      MrDFS  KAQhE.15763$sl7.7453@fx26.iad
    Owl  g80a8s0ab83t.aghu3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m52 Top; 4.5 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Mar 12 {  4:39pm, 2019 }:55  XɢϜϛ
      The standard, Microsoft Office.

You (Owl) told MrDFS:
> it'd be worth the effort, to not be tied to MS Office.

What makes you think MrDFS' clients prefer esoteric
command lines over the standard, Microsoft Office ?
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              SteveCarroll  9c2b994b-5237-467e-af8d-911b4b9c14b0@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.27pm.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
        MrDFS  jT_fE.3433$2L4.3021@fx43.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.15pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  pyYhE.25105$wQ3.10936@fx08.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.12--9.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 23  m102 Top; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar 12 {  5:55pm, 2019 }:53^(-4)  XɢϷɱ
      It wouldn't be as nice as what I have now.

MrDFS asked me:
> Why don't you build yourself a half bath in your apt?

I could, but it wouldn't be as nice as what I have now.

Connecting to the (big) sewer pipe would be the main problem,
as I'd have to interrupt the guy in the room below me,
cut a hole in his ceiling, etc.

> bath mirror $30

I'm not a woman.
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            HughHuntzinger  8d55efac-8bed-46c9-8363-e5bc973953e2@googlegroups.com
          JohnGohde  c8e92eb4-1a2c-4d6d-ad3e-dd1d26a8df26@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  83a4aa15-466d-4f76-8394-c1494ad91658@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--2.22pm.Seattle.2019
    HughHuntzinger  7c6c1200-003c-4bc3-ba2d-ef5e4a0ada0b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--4.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m10 Top; 5.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Mar  7 {  2:56pm, 2019 }:30^(PST)  Xɟɭʖ
      I don't use WiFi.

Hugh replied:
> > The Actiontec WiFi Network Extender communicates with the gateway 
> > using your home’s existing COAX wiring.
> 
> That appears to be able to use COAX, which isn't applicable to my needs

You're right, my mistake.

I don't use WiFi; eight port switches are supercheap;
-- this the best way to go (!WiFi).

For my tenants who need Wi-Fi, I use two late-model 400$ routers;
I haven't received any complaints in months ( years ? ).

  Asus ROG ac5300; Apr 5, 2018; Quad Core, 8 MuMiMo antennas, 
  8 LAN Ports; 425$, after 10% tax, Amazon.

My older routers overheated and slowed to a crawl; so I trashed them.
Oddly, I was the one that noticed it, not my tenants;
Wi-Fi users aren't very sophisticated; smarter tenants use wires.

> a 3rd antenna for NOTIONALLY better coverage ?  

4 Antennas ( for fewer dead spots ):

  "Persevere WiFi Range Extender", 1200Mbps WiFi Booster 
  40$, Free Shipping.
  Amazon.COM/Persevere-Extender-Extenders-Amplifier-Available/dp/B07BXR9JJQ/

  Amazon's Choice for "wifi booster for the house". 
  LED indicators tell you how strong the signal is !
  Indoors, the range can be 100-164ft.
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              SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
            MrDFS  jT_fE.3433$2L4.3021@fx43.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.15pm.Seattle.2019
        MrDFS  nv%fE.10317$Vf2.7792@fx12.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.59pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  41660e68-d653-4ee1-8f37-0619f757a4ad@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.7--10.04am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m183 Mad; 2 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar  7 {  8: 1am, 2019 }:27^(PST)  Xɟeɗ
      I'm fine,.

Steve to me:
> think you'll find you become less "comfortable" the less healthy you are;
> an all too common complaint in 'older folks'.

I'm fine, MrDFS is the one with all the complaints.
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              SteveCarroll  9c2b994b-5237-467e-af8d-911b4b9c14b0@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.27pm.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
        MrDFS  jT_fE.3433$2L4.3021@fx43.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.15pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  nv%fE.10317$Vf2.7792@fx12.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m135 Top; 9.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar  6 {  6:36pm, 2019 }: 5^(-5)  XɞИ5
      Worldwide, most everyone shares a bathroom; I don't.

MrDFS to me:
> How do you dispose of the urine?

It takes 5 weeks to fill up two 7 gallon VittlesVaults;
I empty them into a superstrong 45 gallon contractor bag,
and put it in the dumpster.

> And what's with using a spoon to wipe?

It's a good start; I follow it up with with paper towels.

> Everyone on the floor shares a community bathroom ?

I could use one of five bathrooms, shared.
Worldwide, most everyone shares a bathroom; I don't.

> I shudder to think how shitting into a soup ladle (then transferring it 
> into a plastic bucket), and pissing into a measuring cup, could be twice 
> as "comfortable" as walking down the hall and using a commode.

It's about ten times more comfortable.
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              HerbertGlazier  13abb844-933a-4355-bfe5-6733f49c03cf@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.35am.Seattle.2019
          HerbertGlazier  9838e657-8260-4dc9-a9c4-5aee4fb43293@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.53pm.Seattle.2019
      HerbertGlazier  ce12b6bc-eee6-431a-add1-07784a3d327b@googlegroups.com
    JimPennino  occ6lf-fh8.ln1@mail.specsol.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.44pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    +-, 5.5 Minutes, tin➤Sun, Eternal-September.ORG,  Mar  6 {  6:31pm, 2019 }:20^(0)  XɞЗɐ
      Bert can afford 5 cups of coffee, plus a soda, each day.

Jim Pennino to Herbert Glazier:
> > "NO" on taking "GOP Mafia" [ Big Pharma ] drugs.
> > Took diabetic pills, but GOP Mafia took them away.
> > 
> > Took heart pills, but GOP Mafia took them away.
> > Had health insurance, but GOP Mafia took it away.
> > GOP Mafia is the power and the glory, 100%.
> 
> You said you are rich.
> Rich people don't need health insurance.

By "rich" I think he means: 
he can afford 5 cups of coffee, plus a soda, each day.
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              BenJacoby  q5kfvl$1pla$3@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  13abb844-933a-4355-bfe5-6733f49c03cf@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.35am.Seattle.2019
        HerbertGlazier  9838e657-8260-4dc9-a9c4-5aee4fb43293@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.53pm.Seattle.2019
    HerbertGlazier  ce12b6bc-eee6-431a-add1-07784a3d327b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m189 Top; 15.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  6 {  6: 5pm, 2019 }:13^(PST)  XɞВч
      No TV, no healthcare, no insurance, no problems.

Bert wrote:
> Took heart pills But GOP Mafia took hem away.
> Had health ins. But GOP Mafiabtook that away. 
> Let you know how I make out.  It can happen to you

I haven't spent a dime on healthcare, last thirty years.

No TV, no healthcare, no insurance, no problems.

I haven't the slightest clue about what your "GOP Mafia" nightmares
might mean, or where they might've come from.  Not a clue.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.42am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  9zb793ta.ghuo4@rooftop.invalid
          SteveCarroll  9c2b994b-5237-467e-af8d-911b4b9c14b0@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.27pm.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
    MrDFS  jT_fE.3433$2L4.3021@fx43.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--6.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m134 Top; 13.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar  6 {  5:55pm, 2019 }:36^(-5)  XɞБɠ
      Too far away, too much work, not half as comfortable.

I wrote:
> > > If you want to target the great unwashed, Linux is perfect.

No comment ?

MrDFS to me:
> > > I shit into a soup ladle (!spatula), and I piss into a measuring cup;
> > > from there, it goes into a 7 gallon VittlesVault ( not a shitbucket ).
> > > I wipe with a spoon and paper towels.
> 
> That's disgusting.

No, it's perfect.

> Why don't you do your business in a white, porcelain toilet ?

Too far away, too much work, not half as comfortable.
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            HerbertGlazier  10198c02-a2ab-474a-95bc-c58d3fb70a4b@googlegroups.com
          BenJacoby  q5kfvl$1pla$3@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  13abb844-933a-4355-bfe5-6733f49c03cf@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.35am.Seattle.2019
    HerbertGlazier  9838e657-8260-4dc9-a9c4-5aee4fb43293@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 5  m187 Top; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  6 {  3:14pm, 2019 }:31^(PST)  XɞϘʗ
      Prozac, or some such ?

Bert wrote:
> 5 coffee's each day.  Soft drinks 5 a week.
> Chicken soup instead of pills now.
> 
> Seeing SS office with my finance advisor 
> they owe me $$$$$ since I have no more insurance

That's a lot of caffeine, I couldn't handle it.
You were built stronger than me, obviously.

Were you ever on Prozac, or some such ?
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              SteveCarroll  6552edca-ef28-4cde-bee8-ef4b393e2b60@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.42am.Seattle.2019
          Owl  9zb793ta.ghuo4@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  9c2b994b-5237-467e-af8d-911b4b9c14b0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.27pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  e19c82f9-3b0b-416e-a396-bdd24fca56d5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--5.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talkpolitics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m178 Mad; 4.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar  6 {  4:54pm, 2019 }:57^(PST)  XɞϷv
      Natasha can name drop.

Steve Carroll to me:
> I was obviously joking about the book but, in this environment,
> you may have a best seller ;)

Yeah, I could fill a book.
Those double D's are natural by the way, my favorite.
And she shows them off, along with her skinny waist.

She's an extreme extrovert, she loves the stage;
I'm the opposite.  She can name drop.
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    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  dtXfE.10785$dq7.6075@fx35.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talkpolitics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m111 Cool; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar  6 {  2: 3pm, 2019 }:53  Xɞυϙ
      Human feces on the street, in San Francisco, 1976.

> In San Francisco, you can earn more than $184,000 a year
> in salary and benefits for cleaning up human feces.

I remember, vividly, human feces on the street, in San Francisco, 1976.
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              MrChrisV  54008e5d77j37b8nrfchupepjlsgm39vbp@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  hCTfE.18$np5.5@fx05.iad
          SteveCarroll  6552edca-ef28-4cde-bee8-ef4b393e2b60@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.42am.Seattle.2019
      Owl  9zb793ta.ghuo4@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  9c2b994b-5237-467e-af8d-911b4b9c14b0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--4.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m176 Mad; 36.4 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar  6 {  2:44pm, 2019 }:39^(PST)  Xɞϒʟ
      If you want to target the great unwashed, Linux is perfect.

Steve Carroll replied:
> > you're a stuck-to-the-bed blob with a shitbucket
> > in one hand and a spatula in the other
> 
> Dude, he wouldn't be caught dead using a spatula for that! 

True that; no spatula, no shitbucket.

> What would all those young partiers living in his rooming
> house think ?  Look for his new book about Saturday nights
> in Seattle: From Ladle to Rave.

I'm poor, in Seattle; I know poor people, upfront and personal.
A Linux phone/TV is what Third World types, in the Seattle, rely on.
I'm the exception to the rule; no TV for me, last thirty years.

If you want to target the great unwashed, Linux is perfect.

I shit into a soup ladle (!spatula), and I piss into a measuring cup;
from there, it goes into a 7 gallon VittlesVault ( not a shitbucket ).
I wipe with a spoon and paper towels.

Last four hours, a hot 30-year-old girl (Natasha), with double D's,
was drinking, smoking and talking to me, alone in my room, door shut.
I insisted that she NOT show them to me, fully nude.

She told me about how she was raped, a few weeks ago.
She was at a bar, and let a guy drive her home; big mistake.
I hate cars.

Her brother is raising her only kid ( a girl ); she gave up it at birth;
C-section; she showed me the scar, for a long time, but I couldn't see it.
He's supporting Natasha too, financially.

The "sperm donor" is just some guy she met in Las Vegas;
he offered to help, but she just kind of forgot about him.
They used a condom, but it didn't work, apparently.

So, yeah, Seattle parties; 
and girls enjoy me, in my room, with my VittlesVault.
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              AndrzejMatuch  OcSfE.3621$v52.1007@fx33.iad
            MrChrisV  54008e5d77j37b8nrfchupepjlsgm39vbp@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  hCTfE.18$np5.5@fx05.iad
        SteveCarroll  6552edca-ef28-4cde-bee8-ef4b393e2b60@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.42am.Seattle.2019
    SergIo│invalid@invalid_com  q5p5m6$131s$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--11.13am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m6 Shifty; 2.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  6 { 11: 5am, 2019 }:35^(-6)  XɞΟო
      America has plenty of poor people.

SergIo asked:
> > Lunix Android users are mostly "Third World" types.
> 
> what is Lunix Android ?

Androids are based on Lunix; Java provides the user interface.

You have to be pretty damn poor to be using that, 
instead of a desktop ( or Apple, if you're a fashion model ).

America has plenty of poor people.
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              AndrzejMatuch  OcSfE.3621$v52.1007@fx33.iad
            MrChrisV  54008e5d77j37b8nrfchupepjlsgm39vbp@4ax.com
          AndrzejMatuch  hCTfE.18$np5.5@fx05.iad
        SteveCarroll  6552edca-ef28-4cde-bee8-ef4b393e2b60@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.42am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  50a98658-e218-4713-a9ab-809e07c07ba6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--11.04am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m172 Mad; 3.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar  6 { 10:57am, 2019 }:54^(PST)  XɞΞϚ
      The Third World is alive and well in America.

> > Lunix Android users are mostly "Third World" types.
> 
> Android is pretty big in Europe (as well as the U.S.), isn't it? 

Judging by the distribution of human feces in San Francisco and Seattle,
I'd say that the Third World is alive and well in America.
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    robby@pla_net_invalid  5c800cee$0$5588$426a74cc@news.free.fr
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.59am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 39.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Nnrp1-2.Free.FR➤Proxad.NET, 194.199.26.79,  Mar  6 { 10: 9am, 2019 }:49^(1)  XɞΖϕ
      95% of our Galaxy is composed of COLD dark matter.

Fabrice asked:
> interstellar dust radiates very efficiently, with a constant spectrum.
> -- might it just be that "dust" is the superimposition of many species, 
> which soup of spectral lines might be considered as "quite continuous" ? 
> or is there really something making it intrinsically continuous ?

95% of our Galaxy is composed of COLD dark matter.

I don't think we've done enough research into hyper-cold, degenerate particles;
they may not radiate anything at all, or they might be drownded out by noise.
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              Owl  fa9cx0zb803gt.4h8i@rooftop.invalid
            MrDFS  9SRfE.2439$pX2.1858@fx03.iad
          AndrzejMatuch  OcSfE.3621$v52.1007@fx33.iad
        MrChrisV  54008e5d77j37b8nrfchupepjlsgm39vbp@4ax.com
      AndrzejMatuch  hCTfE.18$np5.5@fx05.iad
    SteveCarroll  6552edca-ef28-4cde-bee8-ef4b393e2b60@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--10.42am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 5  m170 Mad; 35.6 Minutes, GoogleG,  Mar  6 {  9:57am, 2019 }:40^(PST)  XɞΔυ
      Lunix Android users are mostly "Third World" types.

Steve Carroll wrote:
> the 'average' user has switched from a computer to 
> a mobile computing device for a big chunk of what they do.

On stage, it's Apple;
on the desk, it's Microsoft;
on disability, it's Android (Lunix).

Lunix Android users are mostly "Third World" types.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5nema$184k$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--3.06am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m81 Cool; 6.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  5 {  7:27pm, 2019 }: 5^(2)  XɞYΚ
      When you spend too much time at Starbucks.

> Washington state Governor, Jay Inslee,
> newly declared candidate for president in 2020 

That's what happens when it's raining outside,
and you spend too much time at Starbucks.

You start imagining that you're the ruler of the planet;
in fact, you're a little worm, waiting to get stepped on.

No one ever got rich by demanding more than he deserved;
no, it's the quiet guy, who's too busy working to say anything.
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          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5krhq$1cb3$1@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  97c6823b-f728-4c46-b875-b3ba71ce187a@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  q5nci7$uul$1@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  75c9cb22-769f-4773-ba3e-cf901558f4f8@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.52am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m196 Top; 6.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  5 {  7:25pm, 2019 }: 3^(PST)  XɞYȵ
      Our women are out there, in the streets.

Bert wrote:
> Commie China will never take over my country.

It's happening even as we speak, starting with Venezuela.

Like you, Bert, Americans are too HIGH and mighty to work hard.

Caffeine, cocaine, and Adderall give you the ILLUSION that 
you're greater than China, despite not working half as hard.

Our women are out there, in the streets;
begging for more, offering nothing.

  Feminism killed marriage like unions killed Detroit.

  Women can't get more ( vs men ) without contributing more;
  their "Beggars Manifesto" can't work, and it makes them look
  silly, bitchy, thoughtless, and cliché.

  To keep a job, demand less; seek "Sustainability", or "Zen Minimalism".
  Humanity is a beehive, queens are RARE;
  respect is RARE and expensive, like gold, not ubiquitous.
■
        HerbertGlazier  10198c02-a2ab-474a-95bc-c58d3fb70a4b@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  q5kfvl$1pla$3@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  13abb844-933a-4355-bfe5-6733f49c03cf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.35am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 6  m196 Top; 8 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  5 {  6: 3pm, 2019 }: 9^(PST)  XɞKΞ
      No coffee, no Coca-Cola ?

Bert wrote:
>  My imagination has no bounds.  No drugs.

No coffee, no Coca-Cola ?

No doctor ever gave you pills for "depression" ?
■
      SamWormley  81c054ee-2d10-4527-8510-3d1d31bfb034@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  65c7558d-0d6a-48cd-9e76-d2a055e794b1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.25am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 8  m196 Top; 8.3 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  5 {  5:44pm, 2019 }:46^(PST)  XɞHʦ
      Proud gravity is dying off; humble entropy is winning.

Fully caffeinated, Bert wrote:
> in the end, gravity wins.  It always makes distances shorter and shorter

Proud gravity is dying off; humble entropy is winning.

  The Known Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense
  to infinitely cold/sparse.

  12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
  695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
  the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

  The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
  hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
■
        HerbertGlazier  ca190a80-c845-4999-a49a-b3a5d4c89d5a@googlegroups.com
      SamWormley  d47625de-a278-4da4-bbbf-372a7efee908@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  764df29a-5e1f-462e-8fb3-df01299070b9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.6--2.14am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 9  m196 Top; 8.6 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  5 {  5:28pm, 2019 }:23^(PST)  XɞEЕ
      Bert's higher than a kite.

Bert wrote:
> I will die with high hopes.  GOP Mafia will see to it.

Yes, Bert, you're higher than a kite;
way the fuck up there, out of sight.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--1.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns
      Feminism killed marriage like unions killed Detroit.

Feminism killed marriage like unions killed Detroit.

Women can't get more ( vs men ) without contributing more;
their "Beggars Manifesto" can't work, and it makes them look
silly, bitchy, thoughtless, and cliché.

To keep a job, demand less; seek "Sustainability", or "Zen Minimalism".
Humanity is a beehive, queens are RARE;
respect is RARE and expensive, like gold, not ubiquitous.
■
          MrChrisV  pd9t7ed8044ask2epcjtntl3mvgl46hm3m@4ax.com
        SteveCarroll  46c2f872-00e2-4aeb-bf2d-3a6ccbae73c0@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  88dt7ehcgc0e2kh2gh2ga9dnpdc9v46ovl@4ax.com
    SteveCarroll  eebb6c47-71bf-4802-92c1-39f73dd5fd6f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.5--11.40am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m161 Cool; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar  5 { 10:11am, 2019 }:40^(PST)  Xɝлტ
      On stage, it's Apple.

Steve Carroll wrote:
> most of the musicians I know are broke as f*ck; 
> yet, they're willing to spend money on the iPad

On stage, it's Apple;
on the desk, it's Windows;
on disability, it's Android (Lunix).
■
      HerbertGlazier  20b4ba97-493d-4a4c-b3da-20f826167e15@googlegroups.com
    SamWormley  bbbbfcaa-6ca9-4201-94bf-8aa4a755462c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--5.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 6  m53 Cool; 4.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Mar  4 {   :52pm, 2019 }:49^(PST)  XɝɘЯ
      The fields in a photon add-to and subtract-from the fields in a molecule.

Sam Wormley:
>    1.  Photons Are created (emitted) by charged particles
>    2.  Photons propagate at c
>    3.  Photons Are destroyed (absorbed) by charged particles
> 
> no exceptions.

The fields in a photon add-to and subtract-from the fields in a molecule;
the resulting wave can be slower, with a different frequency/direction.
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  di7o7eh1lfu7lt90hna8sp4sfoluk6coov@4ax.com
            SnitBot  ge2m33FbvhfU1@mid.individual.net
          Andr-o-Mat│andr@o_mat  JL_eE.171948$hV4.50240@fx43.iad
        SteveCarroll  eba5faf4-9ddf-4ed6-ae90-8412b3d343e8@googlegroups.com
      Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  lOcfE.48333$0C5.3641@fx16.iad
    SteveCarroll  ebff8054-a988-453c-a3c2-96b8b798de4e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.4--9.19am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m157 Cool; 54 Secs, GoogleG,  Mar  4 {  9: 8am, 2019 }:42^(PST)  Xɝpʢ
      The SnitBot was an IT instructor, at one point.

Steve wrote:
> Crackhead has never had a job that required an IT degree... 

The SnitBot was an IT instructor, at one point.
Near as I can tell, he thinks an SSDI check is a God-given right,
and "earning money" is a special entitlement, revocable at any time.
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              Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  k30o7elkg3ultnean5epjhp3pd6l5irfdh@4ax.com
            SnitBot  ge2e27Fa7sfU1@mid.individual.net
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  am0o7e1b0rac2qf99sp4t353v15pool4cj@4ax.com
        SnitBot  ge2eqgFacqmU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.15am.Seattle.2019
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  383o7e5gv6m8qjmpmmb87gq50subepj3nb@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.26am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    +-, 2.7 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Mar  3 {  9:21am, 2019 }:38^(-8)  Xɜʭσ
      SnitBot is "entitled" to hard work, cleaning toilets.

> > Looking in the mirror, SnitBot chants:
> > Your whole argument is you should have special entitlements.
>
> See how much Snit hates rights ? He calls them "entitlements."

SnitBot is "entitled" to hard work, cleaning toilets.
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              .  q5fn05$f39$3@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--2.11am.Seattle.2019
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  k30o7elkg3ultnean5epjhp3pd6l5irfdh@4ax.com
        SnitBot  ge2e27Fa7sfU1@mid.individual.net
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  am0o7e1b0rac2qf99sp4t353v15pool4cj@4ax.com
    SnitBot  ge2eqgFacqmU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--9.15am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m68 Dropped; 10.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Mar  3 {  8:48am, 2019 }:16^(-7)  XɜʨG
      There will always be "rich" and "poor".

Looking in the mirror, SnitBot chants:
> Your whole argument is you should have special entitlements.

I don't care how you shuffle the deck,
there will always be "rich" and "poor".

Money is a stupid game anyways;
no one really knows who's "rich" and "poor".
A penniless man in Bangladesh might be "richer" then Jeff Bezos.
■
              ！Kensi  bf007ehvaj5iim6q5a94s4a68hh9caiep0@4ax.com
            Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA055063DF253greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
          Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  6jri7e9h24e0k60i0o6c3ug12qthtcr1ed@4ax.com
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5cu3k$5sa$4@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.50pm.Seattle.2019
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5fn05$f39$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--2.11am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 6  m71 Cool; 5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  2 {  8:59pm, 2019 }:44^(2)  Xɜnღ
      Men are raped more often than women.

Kensi to me:
> > Men are raped more often than women.
> 
> BullFUCKINGshit.

Google it, if you can.

" prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008 ",
according to The Justice Department.

If Greg is right about rape, his libido just went up.
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        .  6d9a47b7-2505-47e3-aecc-6eb810c4b805@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.27pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  8cfm7e541rb3gk76jf98kl674upboefnfi@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--1.45am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m15 Dropped; 6.4 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Mar  2 {  6:40pm, 2019 }:12^(-5)  XɜQϺ
      Your world will end.

Greg to me:
> > Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
> > from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
> 
> 1) the arrow of time goes only one way - into the future ?
>    no, this has not yet been proven

"Cause and effect" ( the four dimensional time-scape ) 
is most certainly static, immutable, eternal;
even if we can't fully prove it, nothing refutes it.

Our ignorance is not proof that "God" (nature) is random.

> 2) you don't know if there is enough dark matter
>    to reverse the expansion

"dark energy" is entropy; 
"dark matter" is hyper-cold, unseen, degenerate mass.

  12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
  695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
  the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

  The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
  hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.

> 3) you don't believe God who says, "world without end".

Your world will end.

> Open your mind to ALL the possibilities.
> Don't be an entropy chauvinist.

You should try to understand today's physics first,
before attempting to (SLIGHTLY) improve on it.
You think you know better than Einstein, you don't.

Every SnakeOil salesman denies entropy,
and Greg is no exception.

Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington wrote: ＜＜

    If someone points out to you that
    your pet theory of the universe is
    in disagreement with Maxwell's equations --
    then, so much the worse for Maxwell's equations.
    
    If it is found to be contradicted by observers --
    well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.
    
    But, if your theory is found to be
    against the second law of thermodynamics,
    I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but
    to collapse in deepest humiliation.  ＞＞

    -- From "The Nature of the Physical World", 1915, chapter 4.
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              mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q5bp6a$13p3$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36e3381b323cb72899673b@news.altopia.com
          mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q5c837$19m3$1@gioia.aioe.org
        PeeScent  c18tut.e4f.17.3@news.alt.net
      mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q5cclq$1u6c$1@gioia.aioe.org
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5cue7$9e6$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--7.24pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m64 Cool; 22.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  1 {  7:48pm, 2019 }:22^(2)  XɛʞM
      The only thing women like more than fake boobs is fake marriages.

Kensi:
> I wouldn't piss on Trump if he was on fire.

Trump got elected because he was more interesting.

The Democrats have no idea what kind of precedents they are setting;
soon, every member of Congress will have their tax records,
and sexual peccadilloes, investigated/exposed.

The only thing women like more than fake boobs is fake marriages.
■
              Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36dfcf322080d6339966c6@news.altopia.com
            mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q562u2$1a0a$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36e0a6a2edade5329966c9@news.altopia.com
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5adf8$o9j$3@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36e296fc330a66ea996715@news.altopia.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5cucd$9e6$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.58pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m64 Cool; 22.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  1 {  7:47pm, 2019 }:23^(2)  Xɛʝბ
      People prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

Kensi:
> 30% of the CO2 in this planet's atmosphere 
> was emitted by our burning of fossil fuels.

Plants prefer warmer weather, with more carbon dioxide;
likewise, people prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

The North Pole was tropical 55 million years ago, 
when/where we primates first appeared.

Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going 
from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of 
695 trillion suns  ( 2.66×10^41 Watts );  in comparison, 
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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          ！Kensi  bf007ehvaj5iim6q5a94s4a68hh9caiep0@4ax.com
        Avenging_Angel│Not_fucking_  XnsAA055063DF253greyghost471bazinga@144.76.35.198
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  6jri7e9h24e0k60i0o6c3ug12qthtcr1ed@4ax.com
    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q5cu3k$5sa$4@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.50pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m64 Cool; 22.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Mar  1 {  7:42pm, 2019 }:43^(2)  Xɛʝh
      Men are raped more often than women.

Greg:
> > submitting to [rape], like the sex slave
> > they really are, arouses their libido.

Greg knows he doesn't think right; so he banished himself 
to a high mountain cabin, like Ted Kaczynski.

Men are raped more often than women.
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    HerbertGlazier  6d9a47b7-2505-47e3-aecc-6eb810c4b805@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m214 Top; 5.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Mar  2 {   :16pm, 2019 }:56^(PST)  Xɛაж
      Entropy is eternal.

Entropy is eternal; 
The Known Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.1--4.32am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Everyone's marriage is a sham, apparently.

Cohen, Trump, and Bill Clinton are all guilty of 
LYING about their sexual proclivities ( and their assets ).
Everyone's marriage is a sham, apparently.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.28--10.13pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Demand less.

To keep jobs, as I have, demand less.
Pop culture calls this "Sustainability", or "Zen Minimalism".

Unions killed Detroit.  Sadly, I feel that the modern woman (feminist)
is too focused on her demands ( e.g. Karl Marx's "beggars manifesto" ).

Marx's experiment failed right from the start, he was a horrible parent;
he knocked up his maid and (criminally) neglected his children.
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    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  1ig67e90d24ekm6pg34dnj99cj2i7k91lq@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.24--7.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.Fan.Cyberchicken, Alt.Slack
    -Dropped, 2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 24 {  5:23pm, 2019 }:15^(-5)  XɘDщ
      You're not the fucking king of France, get over it, Jesus Christ.

Greg:
> I found a hidden shower cam that I think my
> 13-year-old neighbor girl sneaked in. 
> She's a real nymphomaniac

What was picking up the feed ? was it wireless ?

Thirteen-year-old girls aren't dying to see your ninety-year-old dick.

The less important you are, the more important you imagine you are.
You're not the fucking king of France, get over it, Jesus Christ.
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            .  756093a2-f6f5-43fe-9be3-c19aeaffa6c0@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.31pm.Seattle.2019
        .  e14f17e9-7e1c-4e7a-9b9a-e3a4bfe05fab@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--10.23pm.Seattle.2019
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--4.21am.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--6.32am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Astro, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m81 Top; 2.1 Hours, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 21 {  4:21am, 2019 }:38^(Seattle)  Xɕϱσ
      695 trillion suns, 12.5 billion years ago.

Oops, I wrote:
> 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 shown like 695 trillion suns;
> in comparison, Type Ia supernovae shine no brighter than 5 trillion Suns.

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the POWER of 695 trillion suns;
in comparison, the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) 
peaked at 572 billion suns.
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          SamWormley  756093a2-f6f5-43fe-9be3-c19aeaffa6c0@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.31pm.Seattle.2019
      PaulAlsing  e14f17e9-7e1c-4e7a-9b9a-e3a4bfe05fab@googlegroups.com
    .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--10.23pm.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--4.21am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Astro, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m128 Cool; 4.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Feb 18 {  6: 2pm, 2019 }:14^(PST)  XɔKʆ
      695 trillion suns, 12.5 billion years ago.

I wrote:
> > > "Black Hole" (J043947.08+163415.7) is the brightest object known to man;
> > > 600 trillion Suns bright, 12.8 billion years old.

Oops, I should've been looking at "Watts" (power), 
not (appearant) "brightness".

12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 shown like 695 trillion suns;
in comparison, Type Ia supernovae shine no brighter than 5 trillion Suns.

The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--7.04pm.Seattle.2019
    Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_  gd6t9fF8aqdU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.21--0.48am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Astro, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 47.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET,  Feb 20 { 10: 3pm, 2019 }:25^(11)  XɕΕζ
      Staring into the "hot fire" of the microwave background.

Sylvia to me:
> > 95% of our galaxy is "dark matter" ( unseen mass );
> > it's spherical, like earth, not a disk,
> > and it's denser in the middle, like earth.
> > 
> > What are the chances that we're just blind(ed) ?
> > Just because we haven't seen it, doesn't mean it isn't viewable.
> 
> [ We're limited to 3 "improbable/meaningless" options ]

Good thing your "eyesight" and IMAGINATION are flawless, right ?

Staring into the "hot fire" of the microwave background
might've blinded us, so we can't see "Meta-ColdDarkMatter" 
( mCDM; cold, decayed particles; LOW ENERGY physics ).
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              PeeScent  c0hc3b.b41.19.1@news.alt.net
            Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36d78d5a2891d48e175c@news.eternal-september.org
          SnitBot  gd65q3F3itcU3@mid.individual.net
        Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36d78fff658c10611765@news.eternal-september.org
      ！Sir_Greg  isCdnbfcbty_efDBnZ2dnUU7-bfNnZ2d@giganews.com
    Serg_Io│invvalid@invalid_com  q4l6ah$mfl$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20--8.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Talk.Politics.Guns, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m113 Mad; 30.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 20 {  7:35pm, 2019 }:45^(-6)  Xɕʛყ
      Hitler tore down traditional religions, and declared himself God.

> > hitler hated labor unions and favored supporting corporations.
> 
> " Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class
>   to resist 'exploitation' by (Jewish) capitalists [...]
>   Nazis denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. "

Hitler tore down traditional religions, and declared himself God.
Hitler, Stalin and Mao were all full of themselves, fanatics.
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        SamWormley  756093a2-f6f5-43fe-9be3-c19aeaffa6c0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.31pm.Seattle.2019
    PaulAlsing  e14f17e9-7e1c-4e7a-9b9a-e3a4bfe05fab@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--10.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Astro, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m128 Cool; 4.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Feb 18 {  6: 2pm, 2019 }:14^(PST)  XɔKʆ
      600 trillion Suns bright, 12.8 billion years old.

Paul Alsing replied:
> > > black holes are inaccessible to observation and experiment.
> > 
> > "Black Hole" (J043947.08+163415.7) is the brightest object known to man;
> > 600 trillion Suns bright, 12.8 billion years old.
> 
> Sorry, but J043947.08+163415.7 is not a black hole, but a quasar...
> which may harbor a black hole... but a quasar itself is not a black hole...

How bright would it be without a "Black Hole" of some sort ?
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        SamWormley  75066954-ae16-4613-8da2-0a7537168a62@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q4f89e$1h6a$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--5.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 2  m224 Mad; 3.7 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 18 {  1:32pm, 2019 }:30  Xɓოʖ
      Which prevailed at the start of the Big Bang ?

Mr. Odd to me:
> > QM and GR contradict each other.
> 
> Not really, no. 

Which prevailed at the start of the Big Bang ?
Quantum Mechanics or General relativity ?

Answer that, and Stockholm has a million dollars for you.
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    SamWormley  75066954-ae16-4613-8da2-0a7537168a62@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--1.11pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m62 Cool; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG, 173.16.48.4,  Feb 18 {  9:23am, 2019 }:27^(PST)  Xɓгვ
      Truthiness isn't that important.

> There has NEVER been an observation that contradicts a prediction of
> Einstein's Special and General Theories of Relativity. 
> The theories remain fruitful tools of physics.
> 
> Oh, and guess what -- the same can be said of the quantum mechanics. 

Yet they contradict each other.

The best you can do is:

  - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
  - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).

For example, the notion of "mass" ( rest mass ) is useful.
The notion doesn't have to be entirely accurate ( nothing is at rest ),
it just has to be _ useful.   Truthiness isn't that important.

Most people only love comic book, sci-fi "physics";
they've no use for the genuine article, real physics.
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    SamWormley  773bb5d6-6892-4eaf-9fd9-1d7d77edc120@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m62 Cool; 2.1 Hours, GoogleG, 199.241.125.109,  Feb 18 {  9: 5am, 2019 }:46^(PST)  Xɓаშ
      People prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

Plants prefer warmer weather, with more carbon dioxide;
likewise, people prefer warm Bangladesh over cold Norway.

The North Pole was tropical 55 million years ago, 
when/where we primates first appeared.
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    SamWormley  756093a2-f6f5-43fe-9be3-c19aeaffa6c0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.18--0.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Astro, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  m62 Cool; 3.6 Hours, GoogleG, 199.241.125.109,  Feb 18 {  7:31am, 2019 }:30^(PST)  XɓСɚ
      600 trillion Suns bright, 12.8 billion years old.

> black holes are inaccessible to observation and experiment.

  J043947.08+163415.7 ( a 12.8 billion year old quasar/"black hole" )
  is the brightest object known to man ( 600 trillion Suns bright );
  at their peak ( mere seconds ), Type Ia supernovae
  are no brighter than 5 trillion Suns.

  The Known Universe had less entropy 12.8 billion years ago,
  hence the greater brightness.
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              .  q4chjb$1aci$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  q4cic2$1dtr$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  7nmaE.20248$Dl2.10938@fx35.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  0inaE.117590$WZ5.46271@fx38.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--5.02pm.Seattle.2019
  ➤Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m55 Mad; 1.3 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 17 {  4:49pm, 2019 }:    Xɓʀy
      GallopingInsanity

> where is snit these days ? 

Talk.Politics.Guns
Groups.Google.COM/forum/#!searchin/Talk.Politics.Guns/GallopingInsanity|sort:date
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              JohnGohde  273ef50a-b4f5-4f00-849a-f1949a48cde9@googlegroups.com
            Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  lgiaE.35527$Xt3.34897@fx27.iad
          JohnGohde  e5438634-5ad0-4dcf-a0ed-8584ad73bbed@googlegroups.com
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  kckaE.1881$nA6.47@fx01.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--4.20pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  VVmaE.162230$Ri5.128471@fx45.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--4.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m53 Mad; 17 Secs, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 17 {  4:23pm, 2019 }:17  Xɓɻы
      (internally) chanting "nonsense" reboots your brain.

Ratchet to me:
> > My (non-vocalized) transcendental meditation chant is "nonsense", not "ohm".
> 
> I think you got a batch of bad acid.

(internally) chanting "nonsense" reboots your brain.

"Joe Rogan & Tom Papa on Transcendental Meditation":
  YouTube.COM/watch?v=HMg8IzQsdpI
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              .  q4cdd8$n8n$1@gioia.aioe.org
            .  25d4fb57-46be-4d2c-96fd-cf5c4edb37ca@googlegroups.com
          .  q4chjb$1aci$1@gioia.aioe.org
        .  q4cic2$1dtr$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  7nmaE.20248$Dl2.10938@fx35.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--4.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m53 Mad; 37.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 17 {  3:46pm, 2019 }:11  XɓɵϹ
      When did your obsession with octogenarians begin ?

Ratchet:
> Maybe you can loan [ John Gohde a Tenga Flip Zero ].
> It might keep him away from the little girls like Sofia.

I'm more worried about keeping you away from John.
When did your obsession with octogenarians begin ?
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          JohnGohde  273ef50a-b4f5-4f00-849a-f1949a48cde9@googlegroups.com
        Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  lgiaE.35527$Xt3.34897@fx27.iad
      JohnGohde  e5438634-5ad0-4dcf-a0ed-8584ad73bbed@googlegroups.com
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  kckaE.1881$nA6.47@fx01.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--4.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m51 Cool; 2.4 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 17 {  1:18pm, 2019 }: 8  Xɓɝ8
      Ratchetjaw is just a dog

Ratchet told himself:
> I'll wager that Sofia finds you to be a creepy old man.
> You have a weird obsession with very young girls.  It's not healthy.

Yes and, while you're at it, stop obsessing over octogenarians.

> Wanking to [ John Gohde on USENET ] is no way to live. 

No judgment.

My (non-vocalized) transcendental meditation chant is "nonsense", not "ohm".
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q4c302$167s$1@gioia.aioe.org
            poraty6@gmail_com  09cec426-22ee-4332-9c7c-b88605fe6b0c@googlegroups.com
          Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q4cdd8$n8n$1@gioia.aioe.org
        JohnSefton  25d4fb57-46be-4d2c-96fd-cf5c4edb37ca@googlegroups.com
      Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q4chjb$1aci$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q4cic2$1dtr$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.17--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m214 Mad; 2.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 17 {  1: 6pm, 2019 }:10  XɓɛA
      My (non-vocalized) transcendental meditation chant is "nonsense", not "ohm".

Some people are really into comic book, sci-fi "physics".

They might not be able to read a real physics book, if they tried.

Do they have a place in this world ? Apparently so.

  " Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness;
  so pick your poison, Christianity or pantheism.
  The narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".

My (non-vocalized) transcendental meditation chant is "nonsense", not "ohm".
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16--7.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Sci.Astro, Sci.Physics.Relativity, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
      What are the chances that we're just blind(ed) ?

95% of our galaxy is "dark matter" ( unseen mass );
it's spherical, like earth, not a disk,
and it's denser in the middle, like earth.

What are the chances that we're just blind(ed) ?
Just because we haven't seen it, doesn't mean it isn't viewable.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.14--0.16am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      "OTW" by Khalid

"OTW" by Khalid:  YouTube.COM/watch?v=2e9diL0xTN4
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  fbl66ehlgoi39jgt4gbs93csijlictcanv@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--4.20pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  5up66e1mf8p8eqtcn7js82hivfbio34o84@4ax.com
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36cd2ce0ffb19e8e996486@news.altopia.com
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  o3b86elt6c6rdc09mqmfuk5hvuocj5ldch@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.13--2.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m16 Dropped; 7.8 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 13 {  6:44am, 2019 }:18^(-5)  Xɐʓʊ
      Once a month, maybe.

> Relf is the expert on Tenga's Flip Zero, not me.
> I've never even saw one. He claims it clamps on and 
> doesn't let go and gives him multiple orgasms over a
> five-hour time period.  Like I actually believe that shit. 

It does, but I rarely have the time ( or desire ) to do it;
once a month, maybe.  People are constantly calling me, 
knocking on my door; I have to go out and do things, etc.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  fbl66ehlgoi39jgt4gbs93csijlictcanv@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--4.20pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  5up66e1mf8p8eqtcn7js82hivfbio34o84@4ax.com
      Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_  MPG.36cd2ce0ffb19e8e996486@news.altopia.com
    PeeScent  bvso6v.hle.19.22@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--8.03pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m32 Dropped; 34.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Feb 12 {  7:24pm, 2019 }:45^(-7)  XɐYj
      PeeScent can't read or write properly, can't Google, etc.

PeeScent:
> jeff hates me

No hate here, sorry. 

I simply prefer more literate company, that's all.

You can't read or write properly, you can't Google, etc.

Are you homeless ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  2jl56eldcd5845u8dlusef7l32vrh13u9b@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  fbl66ehlgoi39jgt4gbs93csijlictcanv@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--4.20pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  5up66e1mf8p8eqtcn7js82hivfbio34o84@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--6.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m15 Dropped; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 12 {  4:46pm, 2019 }:28^(-5)  Xɐ7К
      I'm inoculated against women and money.

Greg:
> Google Speech is way, way better.  profanity can be 
> engaged in settings by doing away with profanity filters.

Have you tried this ?  I doubt it works.

> getting a piece of a** is much better than a Tenga jack-off machine.

There's no batteries, I don't plug it in.

  Happiness is an empty bladder.  Jeff-Relf.Me/Urethral.Opening.JPG

  I was forced into retirement at age 28, 1988, when my ex divorced me.
  Ever since, I've been inoculated against both women and money.
  She wanted the Mormon life, which is very expensive ( time and money ).

  USENET (1985) and, later (1995), the Internet, are the only things I need.
  Instead of $$sex, Tenga's "Flip Zero" latches on and won't let go,
  so I can edge for 5+ HOURS, despite distractions; it's better than $$sex.

  And it feels good after nutting too -- so even a 60 year-old man, like me,
  nuts multiple times. Vaseline is my lube. It never leaks; no mess.
  When done: open it up, and lay it on paper towels.

  Once dry, put it back in its case, so it stays clean.
  If this product doesn't take over the world, the world is wrong.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.29pm.Seattle.2019
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  88v36etrpsatfk5tub66q9qdubjp6nc2ag@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  2jl56eldcd5845u8dlusef7l32vrh13u9b@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  fbl66ehlgoi39jgt4gbs93csijlictcanv@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--4.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m14 Dropped; 48.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 12 {  3:25pm, 2019 }:34^(-5)  Xɍჰɞ
      Your "smart" phone ain't so smart.

Greg:
> > > > > My Samsung Galaxy has Google Speech which can be taught anything. 
> > > 
> > > It typed:  Jeff Bezos sent me another f****** dick pic
> >
> It has a decency filter engaged.
> You don't really teach Google Speech anything.

This was my point, your "smart" phone ain't so smart.
When I say "fucking" my PC types "fucking", not "f******".

I backup my profile ( my vocabulary ), it's called "Relf_Speak".
Nuance Dragon NaturallySpeaking 15.
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              Owl  sz080bz.rui3@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  9f13ba34-b71e-4a4c-967e-ccd5b16dc6b8@googlegroups.com
          MrDFS  SFB8E.10808$7_6.2665@fx42.iad
        Owl  sz8b003gag.3u4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--3.00pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  %lI8E.5$jt.2@fx26.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--3.43pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m30 Shifty; 8.1 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 12 {  3: 8pm, 2019 }:43  Xɍჭʣ
      I can't post it to YouTube, of course.

MrRatchet to me:
> > I'm the Queen of England.
> 
> Is your bucket your throne?

I use 7 gallon VittlesVaults and 45 gallon contractor bags; 
I shit into a soup ladle.  I can't do the Asian squat.

> Please tell me someone with a sick sense of humor
> forged all that bucket/ladle stuff.

Maybe so, maybe not, you'll never know.
I can't post it to YouTube, of course.
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              Owl  szxcv08034t.ahu34@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  19cfb16e-236e-42e5-8087-6f13efd9d10b@googlegroups.com
          Owl  sz080bz.rui3@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  9f13ba34-b71e-4a4c-967e-ccd5b16dc6b8@googlegroups.com
      MrDFS  SFB8E.10808$7_6.2665@fx42.iad
    Owl  sz8b003gag.3u4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--3.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m152 Top; 5.3 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Feb 12 {  9:21am, 2019 }:34  Xɍгο
      I'm the Queen of England.

Owl wrote:
> I'm 59, but I look 30.

So ? I'm the Queen of England.
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              Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  a7g8E.294490$bN4.120180@fx43.iad
            SteveCarroll  cf64fd1c-95c8-44de-9707-6f4b70b095a0@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.29pm.Seattle.2019
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  88v36etrpsatfk5tub66q9qdubjp6nc2ag@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  2jl56eldcd5845u8dlusef7l32vrh13u9b@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.12--2.41pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m13 Dropped; 8.2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 12 {  6:23am, 2019 }:35^(-5)  XɍЕო
      Did you teach it "dick" ( not "Dick" ) ?

Greg:
> > > My Samsung Galaxy has Google Speech which can be taught anything. 
> 
> It typed:  Jeff Bezos sent me another f****** dick pic

Did you teach it "dick" ( not "Dick" ) ?
Why don't you teach it "fucking" ?
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              .  zP38E.218352$o84.83522@fx42.iad
            .  almarsoft.476793191463996275@news.albasani.net
          .  ffe36526-245d-498e-bd46-cb0f4b9e46bb@googlegroups.com
        .  almarsoft.611436825807894035@news.albasani.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--4.46am.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  c3898c19-651d-43d5-9023-f01e454e9e90@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--11.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m63 Top; 8.9 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Feb 11 {  2:23pm, 2019 }:17^(PST)  Xɍɧы
      God bless corporate America and all she stands for.

MrAA to me:
> I'm surprised you haven't written your own operating system, Jeff.  
> Windows was not written for your benefit, 
> but with the intention of allowing Microsoft 
> and corporate America to take advantage of you!

God bless corporate America and all she stands for.

What operating system, on what hardware, are you running ?

Has the snow affected you, over there, by the river ?
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              FabianRussell  q3rvc40pd6@news1.newsguy.com
            MrChrisV  p0136e53nl0jnog9f87bd7jl29rpa2rli0@4ax.com
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  a7g8E.294490$bN4.120180@fx43.iad
        SteveCarroll  cf64fd1c-95c8-44de-9707-6f4b70b095a0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.29pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  88v36etrpsatfk5tub66q9qdubjp6nc2ag@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--6.49pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m12 Dropped; 3.2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb 11 {  2:56pm, 2019 }:50^(-5)  Xɍɭʪ
      Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic.

Greg:
> My Samsung Galaxy has Google Speech which can be taught anything. 

Really ? !  What words have you taught it ?

> When I'm texting I can just speak and ramble
> on and it gets it pretty much 100% correct every time. 

What does it type when you say:

  Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic.
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              FabianRussell  q3rvc40pd6@news1.newsguy.com
            MrChrisV  p0136e53nl0jnog9f87bd7jl29rpa2rli0@4ax.com
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  a7g8E.294490$bN4.120180@fx43.iad
        SteveCarroll  cf64fd1c-95c8-44de-9707-6f4b70b095a0@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.29pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  650d4067-2fd8-41f2-858f-5540c800f5b0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--6.42pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 12  m244 Mad; 3.3 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Feb 11 {  2:52pm, 2019 }:32^(PST)  XɍɬО
      Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ?

Steve to me:
> > I teach my SpeechToText app how to swear, etc.;
> > just today, I taught it "Bezos".
> > Does your "smart" phone do this ?
> 
> My "smart" phone shows this ( analyzing your text ):
> imgur.com/a/M6VvnUK

SpeechToText is where you speak into a microphone, instead of typing text.
I backup my profile ( my vocabulary ), it's called "Relf_Speak".
Nuance Dragon NaturallySpeaking 15.

Can you do that, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ?
Does your "smart" phone do this ?

> You've *gotta* be BSing about this ladle bit ;)

You're BEGGING for photos, aren't you ?
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              ChrisAhlstrom  q3nr9m$ev3$10@dont-email.me
            MrChrisV  n2v26ednqn7lo6o8r3qiclprt0r9hha637@4ax.com
          FabianRussell  q3rvc40pd6@news1.newsguy.com
        MrChrisV  p0136e53nl0jnog9f87bd7jl29rpa2rli0@4ax.com
      Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  a7g8E.294490$bN4.120180@fx43.iad
    SteveCarroll  cf64fd1c-95c8-44de-9707-6f4b70b095a0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m236 Mad; 5.8 Hours, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Feb 11 {  7:31am, 2019 }:17^(PST)  XɍZɅ
      Does your "smart" phone do this ?

> the vast majority of projects are now platform agnostic

Because a RETARDED phone is better than nothing,
and most people can't even handle that, much less more.

To run the best software, on the best hardware, you need Windows 10.
  Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG

I teach my SpeechToText app how to swear, etc.;
just today, I taught it "Bezos".

Does your "smart" phone do this ?
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              MrDFS  IjH6E.385914$JW5.292576@fx46.iad
            Owl  xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid
          ChrisAhlstrom  q3nrb9$ev3$11@dont-email.me
        MrDFS  w%L7E.310271$f65.152507@fx36.iad
      Owl  9z0c890b83.ag3@rooftop.invalid
    MrDFS  Ttj8E.387073$e75.83648@fx34.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m153 Top; 2.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 11 { 10:50am, 2019 }:17^(-5)  XɍȺʉ
      Owl going to send us a DickPic with a COLA tattoo.

DFS to Owl:
> Photographic evidence of the results of your recent 
> deadlifting / wife hefting regimen are conspicuously absent.

Oh no, now is Owl going to send us a DickPic with a COLA tattoo.
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              Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  zP38E.218352$o84.83522@fx42.iad
            BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.476793191463996275@news.albasani.net
          HughHuntzinger  ffe36526-245d-498e-bd46-cb0f4b9e46bb@googlegroups.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.611436825807894035@news.albasani.net
      HughHuntzinger  a12481f4-cafc-4378-95da-c4ed1681ca15@googlegroups.com
    BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.3900502177697330955@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--2.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m44 Top; 5.7 Hours, Groundhog➤Android, Albasani.NET,  Feb 11 {  7:38am, 2019 }:19^(1)  Xɍaʋ
      *You* can't, I can.

Branimir wrote:
> You can't run Windows without antivirus...

*You* can't, I can.
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              Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  zP38E.218352$o84.83522@fx42.iad
            BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.476793191463996275@news.albasani.net
          HughHuntzinger  ffe36526-245d-498e-bd46-cb0f4b9e46bb@googlegroups.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.611436825807894035@news.albasani.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--4.46am.Seattle.2019
    Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q3snuf$6tg$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--1.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m3 Dropped; 16 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Feb 11 {  1: 3pm, 2019 }:11^(-8)  XɍɚΠ
      To run the best software, on the best hardware, you need Windows 10.

Chris replied:
> > In all my years of using Windows, since 1989 ( and DOS, since 1983 ),
> > I've yet to experience a malware problem of any kind, shape or form.
> > To run the best software, on the best hardware, you need Windows 10.
> 
> The best virus is one that you do not know you have.

*You* are the one who doesn't know, I assure you.

I don't know what it's like to be you,
but I do know that it's NOTHING like my life.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--0.15pm.Seattle.2019
            MrDFS  IjH6E.385914$JW5.292576@fx46.iad
          Owl  xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid
        MrDFS  9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  Elk8E.238052$o84.96572@fx42.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--1.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 7  m153 Top; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 11 { 11:50am, 2019 }:41^(-5)  XɍɌʡ
      I don't have a ball and chain.

DFS:
> Food and cigs will definitely kill you, so enjoy them while you can.

Roger that.
The only difference between me and you is that I don't have a ball and chain.

Jeff Bezos' (ex)wife is the richest woman in the world.

He works out, then takes SemiNaked selfies in the mirror, SAME AS YOU.
He's texting DickPics, as if we'd never find out about it.
And you think *I* am the fool... HA HA HA ! !

  Alcohol, heroin and cocaine kill _ young people.
  Tobacco kills old people, including several who are well over 100 years old.
  The more oxygen you breathe, the sooner you'll die.

  Goolge: oxidative-stress, case-studies.
  Quoting " Oxidative Stress and the Aging Brain ", Dr. Riddle, 2007.
  ncbi.nlm.NIH.GOV/books/NBK3869/

    Currently, one of the most plausible and acceptable 
    explanations for the mechanistic basis of aging is 
    the " free radical theory of aging " ...

    The origin of this explanation has a foundation in 
    the " rate of living theory " [ Pearl ], 
    according to which, the lifespan of an individual depends on
    its rate of energy utilization ( metabolic rate ) ... 

    Pearl proposed that the longevity of an organism 
    is inversely correlated to its mass-specific 
    metabolic rate: increasing an organism’s metabolic 
    rate will decrease longevity, whereas factors that 
    decrease the metabolic rate will increase longevity ... 

    birds have a low rate of free radical production
    in brain and in other tissues [ increasing their longevity ]
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              Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  xN28E.451464$Aq8.310417@fx47.iad
            BranimirMaksimovic  Il38E.434039$FF1.402346@fx06.am4
          Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  zP38E.218352$o84.83522@fx42.iad
        BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.476793191463996275@news.albasani.net
      HughHuntzinger  ffe36526-245d-498e-bd46-cb0f4b9e46bb@googlegroups.com
    BranimirMaksimovic  almarsoft.611436825807894035@news.albasani.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.11--4.46am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m45 Top; 11.6 Minutes, Groundhog➤Android, Albasani.NET,  Feb 11 {  4:26am, 2019 }:53^(1)  Xɍ4ʭ
      To run the best software, on the best hardware, you need Windows 10.

Branimir wrote:
> Windows is highly insecure...

You are insecure about Windows.

In all my years of using Windows, since 1989 ( and DOS, since 1983 ),
I've yet to experience a malware problem of any kind, shape or form.
To run the best software, on the best hardware, you need Windows 10.
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      kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q3qro0$1f7g$1@gioia.aioe.org
    nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_  e91895c8-0286-45da-a725-bd575edc7351@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--9.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m4 Cool; 31.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 184.63.249.175,  Feb 10 {  8:48pm, 2019 }:32^(PST)  XɌЮW
      Kensi will succeed where Jim Jones, Kim JongUn and Stalin failed ( ha ha ).

Nuny wrote:
> Seattle, libtard capital of North America, is getting its snowiest winter in 70 years:

Very true ( I've been in Seattle most of my life, since January 1960 ).
I didn't expect it, and most people around here don't know how to deal with it.
My local store (Safeway) doesn't have milk, bread or salt.

> > to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy.
> 
> What do you call explaining normalcy as extreme?

Kensi is a member of the one true cult ( PseudoScience Marxism );
they have their own special kind of (Marxist) Kool-Aid;
they will succeed where Jim Jones, Kim JongUn and Stalin failed ( ha ha ).

  Richer people need poorer people, big time.
  "Rich" countries are too egalitarian.
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            .  db936e2d-e217-4620-b3e8-e956d23dbc8b@googlegroups.com
          .  g6616ediblck3nhh35v2ig2n39hg3i5hju@4ax.com
        .  cc3d8094-ccc6-42e6-96af-a21b7020d03b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--6.14pm.Seattle.2019
    Ratchetjaw│ratchetjaw@mail_com  uc58E.38483$MB1.33788@fx02.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--7.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m23 Shifty; 1.2 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb 10 {  6:36pm, 2019 }:10  XɌИA
      I'm not trying to join the SciFi cult.

Ratchet wrote:
> You shit in a bucket.

and you eat it up, and roll in it.

> Case closed.

I didn't know it was open.
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        HerbertGlazier  db936e2d-e217-4620-b3e8-e956d23dbc8b@googlegroups.com
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  g6616ediblck3nhh35v2ig2n39hg3i5hju@4ax.com
    HerbertGlazier  cc3d8094-ccc6-42e6-96af-a21b7020d03b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.10--6.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m275 Top; 15.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Feb 10 {  5:48pm, 2019 }: 9^(PST)  XɌА9
      I'm not trying to join the SciFi cult.

It doesn't matter what ordinary people think,
it doesn't matter what sci-fi authors think,
GENUINE physicists know that nothing travels faster than light.

The there are a lot of unknowns in quantum mechanics,
much of it is statistical, correlated; 
causation is unknown, and (presumably) unknowable.

If you know a pair of gloves were shipped out,
one hand to you, and the other to me;
then, when you open the package, and you see the left hand,
you _ immediately know I got the right hand.

Our inability to measure local realism isn't a "refutation".

Sci-Fi worshipers say our Universe rapidly, eternally, duplicates itself;
as if the laws of thermodynamics could/should be ignored.

I don't care if Spinosa, Einstein and me
are the only ones who get it;
I'm not trying to join the SciFi cult.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--2.22pm.Seattle.2019
    Serg_Io│invvalid@invalid_com  q3o66j$1hcc$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--8.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  9 {  7:35pm, 2019 }:34^(-6)  XɌZნ
      A stable currency must be tied to the consumer price index.

Serg_Io replied:
> > A crypto currency without volatility would be truly amazing.
> 
> Hear about that 130$ million in crypto where the password was lost ?
> The guy died, no one else knew the password.  last week or so.

Gerald Cotten either faked his death or his wife killed him.

  A stable currency must be tied to the Consumer Price Index,
  and an army must be ready and willing to protect those prices.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--2.22pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      "Rich" countries are too egalitarian.

Babysitting isn't the best, nicest paying job.
Richer people need poorer people, big time.
"Rich" countries are too egalitarian.

Inflation, rising oil prices, would humble us.
A crypto currency without volatility would be truly amazing.
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          HerbertGlazier  eab54a06-adce-45a2-9b69-fc6a83d6d20d@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  q3kidm$1n90$1@gioia.aioe.org
      MrAA  b8068477-beb4-40b2-9c68-bcd9c2b0008f@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  f4f19379-456c-4322-9608-c95db46fa130@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.9--0.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m270 Top; 22.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Feb  9 { 11:53am, 2019 }:44^(PST)  XɅьღ
      Our Universe is going from infinitely hot to infinitely cold.

Bert wrote:
> Expansion creates cooling.  Thus the end of the universe is absolute zero.

Correct !
Our Universe is going from infinitely hot to infinitely cold.

MrAA's STATIC universe exists only in his mind.

> It will happen in 285 trillion years give or take a trillion

At the beginning of our Universe clocks ticked infinitely slow;
in the end, they'll tick infinitely fast.
Then, 285 trillion years would be nothing.

Now that you're 91, decades are like weeks, you hear me ?

Where are you posting from, these days ? the senior center ?
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        .  ehf8a4a.z0awyur@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--10.27pm.Seattle.2019
    MrAA  10a0d0d1-ef19-4890-a642-2e0799209b0c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--1.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m66 Top; 14.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Feb  8 {  1:32pm, 2019 }:21^(PST)  XɅɟʍ
      For the love of "God" ( Xi JinPing ), please, have more babies !

Double-A asked:
> Does Xi JinPing have his own Bible or prayer book to go with his picture ?

Yes, but I don't know the name of it, and it keeps changing.
It used to say:  City women can only have one child.
Now it says:  

  For the love of "God" ( Xi JinPing ), please, have more babies !
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              JohnSefton  bc721e53-6c4a-4504-9805-fc21462b19ed@googlegroups.com
            PaulAlsing  067dce9b-8818-4187-85cb-93a86b7ec5e0@googlegroups.com
          JohnSefton  26a2c644-8cc6-4bda-86e3-7b04bfc6e6bc@googlegroups.com
        PaulAlsing  f5cd21f3-e83f-479b-a331-15c52cafd74f@googlegroups.com
      Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  2bc78ead-4cba-14d8-55fb-5c812158b85f@PointedEars.de
    PaulAlsing  338daa7e-00fc-4a23-b1e4-7ffa93029c0e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.8--1.10am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 2  m161 Mad; 4.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Feb  7 {  8:43pm, 2019 }:25^(PST)  XɄЭɕ
      Our Milky Way Galaxy is (roughly) spherical.

Paul Alsing replied:
> > Galaxies have *never* been *classified* as “spherical”
> 
> Indeed, a brain-fart on my part...

Our Milky Way Galaxy is (roughly) spherical.

Quoting WikiPedia: ＜＜

  The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded 
  in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter. 

  The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
  It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter ＞＞
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    Owl  ehf8a4a.z0awyur@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--10.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    +Top, 7.8 Years, tin➤Linux, Θ, Boom.Rooftop,  May  4 {  3:13am, 2011 }:38  Rყχɢ
      No cheese !

7.8 Years ago, Owl wrote:
> It would appear that my beloved Breyers Yogurt is no more.
> Good thing that can never happen to Linux.
> 
> I'll never wake up one day and find that
> Linux is just no longer available.
> Capitalism is *so* good for humanity.

At least you don't have to wake up at 4 a.m.,
milk the cows, make the yogurt, pick the fruit, preserve it,
make sure everything is clean, so you don't get sick, etc.

Chinese street vendors skim oil off sewers, to save money.
There, they taint baby formula, to make a higher profit, 
killing/disabling babies.

To this day, no one wants Chinese baby formula.

Often, the booze is fake too, killing/disabling adults.

Walk into a Walmart in one of China's "Tier 1" MegaCities,
and there's virtually no cheese !

Government officials will take down your painting of Jesus,
and replace it with a portrait of Xi JinPing.
If you're lucky, you won't disappear, and lose your organs to "the market".
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
            Owl  s8z0b8083t.a3u3j@rooftop.invalid
          SteveCarroll  8a31293f-e254-49d1-aa2a-9b34cca9e776@googlegroups.com
        Owl  zxzb0803ga.g3huo4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--2.20pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  8m37E.278617$bN4.131834@fx43.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--9.57pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m144 Top; 5.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb  7 {  3:40pm, 2019 }:39^(-5)  XɄϜХ
      Get rid of your "ball and chain".

You (DFS) replied:
> Two 7 gallon VittlesVaults, 45 gallon contractor bags.
> 
> wtf dude - no indoor plumbing in your room/apt ?

Yes, no plumbing in my room/unit.

> Anywhere in the bldg?

Outside of my room is a large kitchen and five bathrooms,
three of which have showers.

> Do you literally squat over the VittlesVault and shit ?

No, I can't do the Asian squat.

Sitting up, in bed, I piss into a 24 ounce measuring cup, 
then dump it into the VittlesVault.

In bed, I shit into a soup ladle; I clean it ( and myself ) 
with paper towels ( and a spoon, if needed ).

If my stool is too soft, or too frequent,
Pepto-Bismol slows it down and hardens it.

If my throat is irritated, or I'm stressed out,
so that I feel the need to cough, 
hard candy (LifeSavers) resolves the issue.

> I'm gonna puke.

Get rid of your "ball and chain", and you won't have such problems.
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              Owl  xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid
            MrDFS  9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
        Owl  s8z0b8083t.a3u3j@rooftop.invalid
      SteveCarroll  8a31293f-e254-49d1-aa2a-9b34cca9e776@googlegroups.com
    Owl  zxzb0803ga.g3huo4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--2.20pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m157 Top; 33.9 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Feb  7 {  1:40pm, 2019 }:47  XɄρЭ
      Two 7 gallon VittlesVaults.

You (Owl) wrote:
> I wouldn't worry unless you have manboobs like Relf and are
> thinking of picking up some utility buckets at the hardware store.

Your girlfriend/wife is your PUNISHMENT for working out.

  I use two 7 gallon VittlesVaults because they keep a tight seal;
  Boraxo keeps the smell down.  I dump it once every five weeks,
  sealed in super thick, 45 gallon contractor bags.

  Everyone in the house knows about it, yet many of them
  still visit me frequently, here in my ( good smelling ) room.

  I have to clean other rooms, when people die or move out,
  and I can tell you ( with 100% certainty ),
  that some of them really do smell like outhouses.
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              MrDFS  9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
          Owl  s8z0b8083t.a3u3j@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  8a31293f-e254-49d1-aa2a-9b34cca9e776@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--10.55am.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  nq0p5ed4t3kgu1q3n1ehpc6god5rhulcci@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--11.22am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m9 Dropped; 4.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Feb  7 { 11:14am, 2019 }:39^(-5)  XɄΡʟ
      My prostate is positively glowing, these days.

Greg replied:
> >  And it feels good after nutting too -- so even a 60 year-old man,
> >  like me, nuts multiple times.  <...>
> 
> Multiple orgasms?  Dream on Relf!

Try it yourself, if you don't believe me.
My prostate is positively glowing, these days.
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  I'm 240 lbs, 6ft, 60 years old.

  To get laid, I'd have to fix my teeth, dress nicer/cleaner, 
  lose 90 lbs, do push-ups, and find a more prestigious, higher paying job.
  Even then, I'd have to pay for it, and let her f_ck 20 year-olds too.

  She'd boss me around, and the sex would be horrible compared to:

    Tenga's "Flip Zero" latches on and won't let go, 
    so you can edge for 5+ HOURS,
    even when you're distracted by something else.

    And it feels good after nutting too -- so even a 60 year-old man, like me,
    nuts multiple times.  Vaseline is the best lube.  It never leaks; no mess.
    When done, open it up, wipe it down with a paper towel, and lay it on its side.

    Once dry, put it back in its case, so it stays clean.
    If this product doesn't take over the world, the world is wrong.
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              MrDFS  IjH6E.385914$JW5.292576@fx46.iad
            Owl  xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid
          MrDFS  9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
      Owl  s8z0b8083t.a3u3j@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  8a31293f-e254-49d1-aa2a-9b34cca9e776@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--10.55am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m255 Mad; 4.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110,  Feb  7 { 10:20am, 2019 }:13^(PST)  XɄΘʅ
      Getting laid, like Mr. Owl.

Steve Carroll replied:
> > > I've been 240 pounds for many years now ( 6ft, 60 years old ).
> 
> 215 pounds (6ft.)  I look like a rail at 183.

To get laid, like Mr. Owl, I'd have to fix my teeth, dress nicer/cleaner, 
lose 90 lbs, do push-ups, and find a more prestigious, higher paying job.

Even then, I'd have to pay for it, and let her fuck 20 year-olds too.

She'd boss me around, and the sex would be horrible compared to:

  Tenga's "Flip Zero" latches on and won't let go, 
  so you can edge for 5+ HOURS,
  even when you're distracted by something else.

  And it feels good after nutting too -- so even a 60 year-old man, like me,
  nuts multiple times.  Vaseline is the best lube.  It never leaks; no mess.
  When done, open it up, wipe it down with a paper towel, and lay it on its side.

  Once dry, put it back in its case, so it stays clean.
  If this product doesn't take over the world, the world is wrong.
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        SamWormley  bdb6314b-9bc9-43aa-aeee-127ff59aa51b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--10.53pm.Seattle.2019
    pnalsing@gmail_com  0328040e-cff2-4e4e-9ebc-7f65db50e8c2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--6.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m166 Dropped; 13.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Feb  6 {  5:51pm, 2019 }:27^(PST)  XɄIθ
      100 MicroSeconds after the Big Bang "singularity".

Paul Alsing replied:
> > 13.8 billion years ago, our Universe was infinitely hot.
> 
> Apparently, you do not understand the meaning of 'infinite"...
> which is not actually a number...

100 MicroSeconds after the Big Bang "singularity"
the "Known" Universe was 10^13 degrees Kelvin.

Keep pounding physics down people's throats,
I'm sure it will work someday.
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            MrDFS  j2H6E.173267$i44.30487@fx11.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--0.15pm.Seattle.2019
        MrDFS  IjH6E.385914$JW5.292576@fx46.iad
      Owl  xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid
    MrDFS  9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physic
    ╱ 2  m135 Top; 47.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb  6 {  3:22pm, 2019 }:42^(-5)  XɁჯШ
      Natasha Lyonne's "Russian Doll".

DFS:
> Last I heard [JeffRelf] ballooned from 160 to 240; 

I've been 240 pounds for many years now ( 6ft, 59 years old ).

> he appears to be attempting suicide by food, cigs
> and loony code.

I enjoy food, cigs, and esoteric code.  Speaking of cigs...
I'm binge watching Natasha Lyonne's "Russian Doll".
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    MrDFS  j2H6E.173267$i44.30487@fx11.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--0.15pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m134 Top; 9.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Feb  6 {   : 1pm, 2019 }:15^(-5)  XɁюɁ
      GuhNoo/Linux Users

> GuhNoo girls don't actually have tits.

The guys do.
■
              MrAA  abf23141-c971-4ced-8d7c-f125be98afcc@googlegroups.com
            HerbertGlazier  bbb318a4-c964-487a-96da-23bacf21d436@googlegroups.com
          BenJacoby  q2o6ie$46c$1@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  6b9d8eb6-cbad-4d35-b69a-ea9745ab320d@googlegroups.com
      MrAA  53afbfb5-0522-4c47-bffa-d9bb0b598811@googlegroups.com
    jimp@specsol_spam_sux_com  vqafif-gp7.ln1@mail.specsol.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--11.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 9  m54 Cool; 4.2 Days, tin➤Sun, Eternal-September.ORG,  Feb  1 {  6:11pm, 2019 }:11^(0)  XȾГх
      Bert is no longer capable of handling his own finances.

Bert:
> > > GOP Mafia took away my A and B Medicare.

Bert is no longer capable of handling his own finances;
yet he thinks he should be "The Mayor of Anaheim", decorated in Nobels.
Anaheim doesn't even have a mayor.

The Nobel committee didn't like Einstein; the feeling was mutual.
■
    SamWormley  bdb6314b-9bc9-43aa-aeee-127ff59aa51b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--10.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m65 Cool; 3.5 Days, GoogleG,  Feb  2 { 10:51am, 2019 }:29^(PST)  XȿȺκ
      13.8 billion years ago, The Known Universe was infinitely hot.

> Black Holes have three (and only three) properties
>   -- mass, angular momentum, and charge.

Only if you completely ignore quantum physics, and thermodynamics.

The cosmic horizon is the best known singularity;
13.8 billion years ago, it was infinitely hot.
■
    SamWormley  f2ea1686-9d65-4097-9028-ced42757d773@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--10.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 11  m65 Cool; 3.4 Days, GoogleG,  Feb  2 {  9:37am, 2019 }: 6^(PST)  Xȿuȸ
      Western Colorado is NOT getting too hot.

> Temperatures increased across almost all of the Southwest region from 1901 to 2016,
> with the greatest increases in southern California and western Colorado.
> 
> Episodes of extreme heat can affect transportation by reducing the ability of 
> commercial airlines to gain sufficient lift for takeoff at major regional airports.

Western Colorado is NOT getting too hot.

Change is normal.  The sky is not falling.
13.8 billion years ago, The Known Universe was infinitely hot.
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    SamWormley  5c672597-2c97-4e5a-9dd0-95da7f4d6938@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.5--10.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 39  m65 Cool; 1.5 Weeks, GoogleG,  Jan 26 {  5:58am, 2019 }:51^(PST)  XȺʋб
      Judgment Day

> The excess energy that the planet is absorbing is enormous.
> .58 ± .15 W/m^2.

  We humans _ need to believe in a judgment day;
  "Climate Change" is just the latest version of it.

  More rain, more carbon dioxide, warmer weather,
  tropical Arctics... What more could a plant ask for ? !

  56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
  then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
  we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.

  4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
  13.8 billion years ago, The Known Universe was infinitely hot.
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              HughHuntzinger  cf3f8996-941a-4666-98ce-9a1a911e88e7@googlegroups.com
            Owl  p4j8z00g3a.ga3h934@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.51am.Seattle.2019
        .  996f3997-bb1f-4cc2-bd7a-b6f60140a3d7@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.57am.Seattle.2019
    Serg_Io│invvalid@invalid_com  q3b9vq$1uoi$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.4--11.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m3 Shifty; 11 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  4 { 10:20pm, 2019 }:37^(-6)  Xɀнʝ
      ProtonMail.

Serg_Io asked me:
> thoughts on ProtonMail ?

It's NonStandard.  Security by obscurity.

WikiPedia.ORG says:

  In July 2018, ProtonMail reported it was under 
  renewed DDoS attacks, with CEO Andy Yen stating that 
  the attackers had been paid by an unknown party to 
  launch the attacks. 

  In September 2018, one of the suspected ProtonMail attackers
  was arrested by British law enforcement and charged 
  in connection with a series of other high-profile cyberattacks
  against schools and airlines.  
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.45am.Seattle.2019
            Owl  az0b8083gag.a3@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--11.06am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  s9z098xf08b.a3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--11.28am.Seattle.2019
    Serg_Io│invvalid@invalid_com  q3bagk$15q$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.4--10.58pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  4 { 10:29pm, 2019 }:35^(-6)  Xɀоო
      _YOU_ can't forge the "Path:" line, idiot.

Serg_Io:
> > _YOU_ can't forge the "Path:" line, Owl.
> 
> The "Path:" line only goes from server to newsgroup.......

It's a list of servers; newsgroups have nothing to do with it.

> The "Message-ID" line is not forgable

Most servers let you put ANYTHING you want into the "Message-ID" line,
so long as it's reasonably unique ( a@b ).
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--5.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      4:30 a.m. traffic jam.

I've two rooms ( 27 & 28 ), on the third floor, next to the fire escape,
in my rooming house ( the bathrooms are shared );
one on each side of the hall.

A young, athletic bum has been sneaking into the house
at 4:30 a.m. ( via the fire escape ) to take a shower.

Unfortunately ( for the him ) that's exactly when #27
and #28 need to shower -- all three of them, at once, 
in a tiny area, at 4:30 a.m. -- how unlikely.

I put a heavy "hook&eye" lock on the inside,
so it can't be opened from the outside;
the door swings open into the fire escape.
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              BenJacoby  q2o6ie$46c$1@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  6b9d8eb6-cbad-4d35-b69a-ea9745ab320d@googlegroups.com
          MrAA  53afbfb5-0522-4c47-bffa-d9bb0b598811@googlegroups.com
        jimp@specsol_spam_sux_com  vqafif-gp7.ln1@mail.specsol.com
      HerbertGlazier  e7b67dbd-31b6-4e7c-b7b4-791a9fb49c56@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  447cb696-515a-471a-9494-cb74b376d450@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--3.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m68 Top; 25.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Feb  2 {  3: 5pm, 2019 }:42^(PST)  Xȿɮფ
      Most of the people that know me are retired.

Mr. AA:
> > I sit here alone because I can't hear.  This makes me very depressed.
> > I have more virtual friends than real.  AA is still here,
> > but most that post gave it up. -- Bert
> 
> I think many of the old posters have died !

I've worked for the bankers (ABA.COM) since 1993;
most of the people that know me are retired.
It's a real problem.
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2vbhu$kpm$3@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.52am.Seattle.2019
          Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2vdh8$uep$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Sergi_o│invaliid@invalid_com  q2vt8r$15ge$1@gioia.aioe.org
      BenJacoby  q30fje$1ivi$2@gioia.aioe.org
    Serg_Io│invvalid@invalid_com  q355jg$o13$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--3.26pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 32.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Feb  2 {  2:28pm, 2019 }:51^(-6)  Xȿɨб
      I'd be a hikikomori, if I could afford it.

Serg_Io:
> my mom gets cheese pizza, + 24 pack of Pabst beer, 
> while I watch Laverne & Shirley reruns 24/7 in the basement...

I'd be a hikikomori, if I could afford it;  instead,
I'm busting my ass off, running all over the place,
talking to about 15 people each day, managing a 32 unit rooming house.

  Like an empty bladder, happiness is primal, fleeting.

  "God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate 
  even when it's counter beneficial to both yourself and society.
  Not needing a family is the primary benefit of wealthier societies.

  An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos, 
  is about to become the world's richest woman.

  If she drags Jeff's ass through court, 
  we'll learn about his darker side, dooming him.

  We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
  when it comes to marriage, equal OUTCOMES are enforced,
  as if no man is better than the next.  Ants/Bees don't do this.

  Communism is theft; it requires a STRONG government.
  Notionally, communists would steel from "the rich" ( yay, jk );
  yet no one can properly define who is "rich" or "poor".

  The money game is meaningless, 
  as is sitting on the beach, staring into the horizon; 
  better to explore the world, via the Internet. 

  " Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness;
  so pick your poison, Christianity or pantheism.
  The narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".
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              HughHuntzinger  55376159-f70b-40d0-ae08-c60ee6c3c452@googlegroups.com
            Owl  s9z0b0803ag.a3gho4@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.45am.Seattle.2019
        Owl  az0b8083gag.a3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--11.06am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  s9z098xf08b.a3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--11.28am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m142 Top; 10.2 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Feb  2 { 11: 8am, 2019 }:14  XȿȽʆ
      _YOU_ can't forge the "Path:" line, idiot.

Owl:
> > You can't forge the "Path:" line, grasshopper.
> 
> You can preload it, but that's against my TOS.  Still can be done though.

_YOU_ can't forge the "Path:" line, idiot.
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              Owl  11p9a00a8ba.32hou@rooftop.invalid
            MrChrisV  00b95eh625vfphvcbr8iklirgohobks5rg@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  55376159-f70b-40d0-ae08-c60ee6c3c452@googlegroups.com
        Owl  s9z0b0803ag.a3gho4@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.45am.Seattle.2019
    Owl  az0b8083gag.a3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--11.06am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m141 Top; 47 Secs, BadRig, Alt.NET➤Googlegroups.COM, 127.0.0.1,  Feb  2 { 11: 2am, 2019 }:45  Xȿȼʥ
      You can't forge the "Path:" line, grasshopper.

Owl:
> Alt.NET ➤ Googlegroups.COM, 127.0.0.1

You can't forge the "Path:" line, grasshopper.
■
              .  55376159-f70b-40d0-ae08-c60ee6c3c452@googlegroups.com
            .  s9z0b0803ag.a3gho4@rooftop.invalid
          .  cf3f8996-941a-4666-98ce-9a1a911e88e7@googlegroups.com
        .  p4j8z00g3a.ga3h934@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.51am.Seattle.2019
    SamWormley  996f3997-bb1f-4cc2-bd7a-b6f60140a3d7@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.57am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 40  m62 Cool; 31 Secs, GoogleG,  Feb  2 { 10:52am, 2019 }:48^(PST)  XȿȺЮ
      Google Groups users don't have to worry about getting banned.

Sam Wormley replied:
> >   Do NOT post using an INN server, they'll ban you !
> >   For that, use a binary server; to wit:
> 
>  Who will ban whom ?

The answer is very complex, I don't have the time for it now;
Google Groups users don't have to worry about getting banned.

  Unless you enjoy -Random- lags ( when will the post show up ? ),
  Do NOT use a binary server to read Usenet.
  For that, use INN servers; to wit:
  
    News5.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
    News2.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
    News6.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
            News.Individual.NET:119
  
    "Individual.NET" is 10 Euros per year.
    "OpenNews" is cost free ( News5, News2 and News6 are best ).
    Register at:  Open-News-Network.ORG/register
                  Must translate from German; if Captcha fails, F5 refresh.

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              Owl  11p9a00a8ba.32hou@rooftop.invalid
            MrChrisV  00b95eh625vfphvcbr8iklirgohobks5rg@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  55376159-f70b-40d0-ae08-c60ee6c3c452@googlegroups.com
        Owl  s9z0b0803ag.a3gho4@rooftop.invalid
      HughHuntzinger  cf3f8996-941a-4666-98ce-9a1a911e88e7@googlegroups.com
    Owl  p4j8z00g3a.ga3h934@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.51am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m139 Top; 1.7 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET➤Googlegroups.COM, 74.105.120.71,  Feb  2 {  8: 6am, 2019 }:47  Xȿfl
      You can't forge the "Path:" line.

Owl:
> spoofing Injection-Info and NNTP-Posting-Host

You can't forge the "Path:" line.
Google Groups doesn't let you alter the IP adress. 

  Do NOT post using an INN server, they'll ban you !
  For that, use a binary server; to wit:
  
    News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119  or  usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 
  
    They won't censor you; they don't even keep the "Path:" line,
    so you can't be identified.  Their archive is over 15 years deep.
    $5 buys you 11 gigs, enough for several life times.
    If one is down ( -very- unlikely ), use the other one.
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              SteveCarroll  8c2ee1c8-7218-41c7-bf84-52e19c260336@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  83068794-31b9-4d03-91d6-d19ba9c1506d@googlegroups.com
          Owl  11p9a00a8ba.32hou@rooftop.invalid
        MrChrisV  00b95eh625vfphvcbr8iklirgohobks5rg@4ax.com
      HughHuntzinger  55376159-f70b-40d0-ae08-c60ee6c3c452@googlegroups.com
    Owl  s9z0b0803ag.a3gho4@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.2--10.45am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m139 Top; 19.8 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, 192.5.18.35,  Feb  1 {  2: 4pm, 2019 }:17  XȾυϿ
      Google Groups doesn't let you alter the IP adress.

Owl:
> Oooohhh.  A DARPA IP address.  You mean like this?  (look up).

Google Groups doesn't let you alter the IP adress, 
you disingenuous shyster.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--11.48pm.Seattle.2019
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2v155$129m$2@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.10am.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q2vasi$lb$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.29am.Seattle.2019
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2vbpl$lsg$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--10.46am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m3 Shifty; 20.6 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 31 {  9:37am, 2019 }:58  XȽжɶ
      Ants/Bees don't do this.

Mr. Odd told me:
> I don’t like what you do in public. 
> 
> Consider something other than sociopathy, please. 

Somehow, you only see my "vice", not yours.
Your narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".

Good:  Forcing physics down the throats of lonely men.
Bad:   Understanding/Resolving the #MeToo issue.

"God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate 
even when it's counter beneficial to both yourself and society.
Not needing a family is the primary benefit of wealthier societies.

An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos, 
is about to become the world's richest woman.

If she drags Jeff's ass through court, 
we'll learn about his darker side, dooming him.

We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
when it comes to marriage, equal OUTCOMES are enforced,
as if no man is better than the next.  Ants/Bees don't do this.

Communism is theft; it requires a STRONG government.
Notionally, communists would steel from "the rich" ( yay, jk );
yet no one can properly define who is "rich" or "poor".

The money game is meaningless, 
as is sitting on the beach, staring into the horizon; 
better to explore the world, via the Internet. 

" Sustained Consumption " is the goal, not truthiness;
so pick your poison, Christianity or pantheism.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--11.48pm.Seattle.2019
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2v155$129m$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.10am.Seattle.2019
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2vbhu$kpm$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.52am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m2 Shifty; 3.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 31 {  9:33am, 2019 }:50  XȽеϖ
      Ed Prochak is the best ( I read his posts first ).

MrOdd replied:
> > You're shoving physics down the throats of lonely men.
> 
> If you are a lonely man and don’t want to read about physics, might I
> suggest you refrain from habituating a forum devoted to physics ? 

Occasionally, some REALLY GOOD physics is posted here;
Ed Prochak is the best ( I read his posts first ).

> > You CHOSE to read my thread on what women need/want, these days.
> 
> I CHOOSE to read sci.physics with the expectation that 
> there will be posts about PHYSICS there.

I am not responsible for your physics needs.
If you can't block my posts then you shouldn't be on USENET.

Stop FORCING physics on people who merely want/need some attention.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--11.48pm.Seattle.2019
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2v155$129m$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.10am.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q2vasi$lb$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.29am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m2 Dropped; 2 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan 31 {  9:22am, 2019 }:26  XȽгИ
      Mike and Odd quote/promote me for free !

Mike and Odd quote/promote me for free !

Honestly, I'm not paying them a dime.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--11.48pm.Seattle.2019
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q2v155$129m$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.31--9.10am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 1.4 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 31 {  6:36am, 2019 }:21  XȽИL
      The Rape Robot.

You (MrOdd) are shoving physics down the throats of lonely men.

You CHOSE to read my thread on what women need/want, these days.

If you're not in a long-term relationship, with complete honesty, monogamy,
fully tested for STDs... women don't want to hear about your dick.
Herpes is no big deal, everyone has it.   Fingering is okay/good.

Happiness is an empty bladder.
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Urethral.Opening.JPG

Women love it when you reach up into the pussy,
and press up ( hitting the bladder ), so they squirt.
You'll need a waterproof "sex" blanket.

> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Nikki Glaser prefers the "Womanizer Pro" because, 
like the "Tenga Flip Zero" ( for men ), 
it latches on and won't let go ( using suction ).

Ideally, she'd have some kind of a "rape robot";
so she wouldn't have to do much beyond flipping the "on" Switch.

> > With the Tenga, you can edge for hours;
> > and it feels good after nutting too.  Vaseline is the best lube.
> > It never leaks; no mess.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.30--11.48pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      The Nikki tease.

Comedian Nikki Glaser DRAGS a handsome guy into her hotel room, gets naked,
and then gets mad at him when he (shock!) tries to pull out his junk;
and she's so proud of how great it is now, not having to please men.
43 minutes in:  YouTube.COM/watch?v=Xrt7Q8kc_2w

The "Tenga Flip Zero" is much better than "The Nikki tease"
because it latches on and won't let go, so you can edge for hours;
and it feels good after nutting too.  Vaseline is my lube.

It never leaks; no mess.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.28--9.01am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      "Apparently" by J. Cole, anti-flex.

Check out "Apparently" by J. Cole:
YouTube.COM/watch?v=eRaFMlZ1YHA

I love his anti-flex style.

Upon graduating high school with a 4.2 GPA, J. Cole 
accepted a scholarship to St. John's University, New York City.

Initially majoring in computer science, he switched to communication
and business after witnessing the lonely life of a computer science professor.
He graduated magna cum laude in 2007, with a 3.8 GPA.

In January 2015, Cole decided to house single mothers 
rent-free at his childhood home in Fayetteville, North Carolina.  
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    SamWormley  32ad9ec8-a703-4d4f-a325-dcfc03f37571@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--5.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m30 Cool; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Jan 23 {  4:23pm, 2019 }:32^(PST)  Xȸϱლ
      13.8 billion years ago, The Known Universe was infinitely hot.

More rain, more carbon dioxide, warmer weather,
tropical Arctics... What more could a plant ask for ? !

56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.

4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
13.8 billion years ago, The Known Universe was infinitely hot.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--2.17am.Seattle.2019
            AndrzejMatuch  t2se4etod1neqmc59q27a0rd7cj75abmbe@4ax.com
          Owl  szb003ag.3huo4@rooftop.invalid
        MrDFS  sCL1E.202038$x85.144977@fx37.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--5.06pm.Seattle.2019
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q2ajiu$163b$7@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--2.48pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 14  m44 Shifty; 1.8 Hours, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 23 {   :42pm, 2019 }: 6  Xȸθ6
      I'll make it a porn vid, so it's 100% legal.

Amanda asked me:
> Do you still want to fuck me ?  It's $2000/hour.

Maybe, if you flew here, and you seemed like a real nice lady,
I'd do the deed for 10,000$ ( PayPal, "Friends and Family" ), upfront.
I'll make it a porn vid, so it's 100% legal.

I stink pretty bad, and my teeth are rotted out,
so you get a discount.   I have a vasectomy.

> I'm from the midwest. A farm gal.

Cool.  You're 100 lbs, with triple D's, I assume.
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              Owl  pl19a90b803.ah3@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  c3d6162b-20d3-4026-85ec-c07c911f392e@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--6.34am.Seattle.2019
        Sergi_o│invaliid@invalid_com  q2a6ij$1d0q$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.37am.Seattle.2019
    Sergi_o│invaliid@invalid_com  q2ad20$blc$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--11.07am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m6 Shifty; 2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 23 { 10:50am, 2019 }:33^(-6)  XȸΝʙ
      Killing Christians and selling their organs.

Sergi_o replied:
> > > > China takes down images of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
> > >
> > > dude, China never had pictures of Jesus up.
> > 
> > You know  nothing  about the topic, obviously.
> > 
> > " China is Targeting Christians and Catholics ":
> >     YouTube.COM/watch?v=0Ytsu95pt_4
> 
> Isn't the USA, on YouTube, doing that ?

No, they're not replacing images of Christ with pictures of JinPing Xi.
They're not killing Christians and selling their organs.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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              ChrisAhlstrom  q28ddp$m89$2@dont-email.me
            RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q28hbr$3jk$2@dont-email.me
          Owl  pl19a90b803.ah3@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  c3d6162b-20d3-4026-85ec-c07c911f392e@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--6.34am.Seattle.2019
    Sergi_o│invaliid@invalid_com  q2a6ij$1d0q$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--10.37am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m5 Shifty; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 23 {  8:59am, 2019 }:55^(-6)  Xȸʩჱ
      China takes down images of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

Sergi_o replied:
> > China takes down images of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
> 
> dude, China never had pictures of Jesus up.

You know  nothing  about the topic, obviously.

" China is Targeting Christians and Catholics ":
    YouTube.COM/watch?v=0Ytsu95pt_4
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q28hbr$3jk$2@dont-email.me
            Owl  pl19a90b803.ah3@rooftop.invalid
          SteveCarroll  c3d6162b-20d3-4026-85ec-c07c911f392e@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--6.34am.Seattle.2019
      SteveCarroll  7739a864-e82c-4af6-8f74-29e8c41d2b4c@googlegroups.com
    Owl  x2993ta09a.3ap3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.27am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m127 Top; 4.6 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 23 {  7: 7am, 2019 }:30  Xȸʗɚ
      Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Speaking of the anti-Trump hysteria, Owl wrote:
> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)

Spoiled Americans are nearly useless; 
we need "illegal" immigrants.
Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
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            RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q25rn6$4h2$1@dont-email.me
          ChrisAhlstrom  q28ddp$m89$2@dont-email.me
        RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q28hbr$3jk$2@dont-email.me
      Owl  pl19a90b803.ah3@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  c3d6162b-20d3-4026-85ec-c07c911f392e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--6.34am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m174 Mad; 10.4 Hours, GoogleG,  Jan 22 {  7:36pm, 2019 }:53^(PST)  Xȸar
      China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

> > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
> > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> 
> The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel

A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 

Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.

China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
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              FabianRussell  q25plg012as@news3.newsguy.com
            MrDFS  yuv1E.23053$E44.18703@fx28.iad
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--2.17am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  t2se4etod1neqmc59q27a0rd7cj75abmbe@4ax.com
      Owl  szb003ag.3huo4@rooftop.invalid
    MrDFS  sCL1E.202038$x85.144977@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--5.06pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m114 Top; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 22 {  1: 7pm, 2019 }:43^(-5)  Xȷკɧ
      I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017.

DFS replied:
> > I can guarantee you that for just about any text editing task
> > you could think of, vim would enable you to do it faster than
> > any other editor.
> 
> working from end of document backwards, match the case, evaluate whole 
> word only, find-replace the last 5 occurrences of a value
> That's easy and fast with a click-GUI editor like Notepad++.

My 114$ g910 Logitech keyboard is seldom used, these days;
instead, I use:  Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG

Ever since 1982, I've used GUI editors with multi-button mice
and laser printers.  I'm not sure, but I think I was using 
a WordPerfect code editor back in 1983.

Because of this, I've never liked emacs or vi.
Word Wrapping ( 244 columns, 4k, OCR font, 40 inch curved monitor ) 
is quickly toggled On/Off; 99.99% of the time, it's off.

It looks like this:  Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG

Regex works like this:
docs.microsoft.com/EN-US/VisualStudio/IDE/Using-Regular-eXpressions-in-Visual-Studio?view=vs-2017

I Search&Replace blocks of text, not just lines; manually and via C#.
Searching .h files from the Windows SDK, and from standard C++, etc.,
is super trivial, and done quite often.

I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017:
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
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              FabianRussell  q24k0p0k2f@news3.newsguy.com
            SteveCarroll  3976f44c-83f6-4bc2-a1ef-92051319beb5@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  q24on701jle@news2.newsguy.com
        Owl  s9z0b803ta.43i@rooftop.invalid
      FabianRussell  q24qi001aer@news1.newsguy.com
    MrDFS  zZv1E.67298$nO2.60937@fx08.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--2.49am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m110 Top; 6.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 21 {  7:21pm, 2019 }:43^(-5)  Xȷʙψ
      The modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else.

MrDFS wrote:
> the MGTOW (losers) movement

Just because "God" (nature) programed your pea brain to over-eat, 
and over-breed, doesn't mean it's a good thing for you or society.

An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos, 
is about to become the world's richest woman.

UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term=M.G.T.O.W

  " Men Going Their Own Way " is a statement of self-ownership, where 
  the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else.

  It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. 

  Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is.

  Looking to no one else for social cues.

  Refusing to bow, serve, and kneel, for 
  the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility.

  And, living according to his own best interests,
  in a world which would rather he didn’t.

  Parents ask:  Are you gonna get married, buy a house, and start a family ?
  Son answers:  "NO"  I'm M.G.T.O.W
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              SteveCarroll  0e6493f0-e263-4451-a2b8-c80d5d6cc414@googlegroups.com
            MrDFS  l4u1E.191032$x85.97915@fx37.iad
          SteveCarroll  09aa9979-8511-4197-9b89-c577ceae10e1@googlegroups.com
        MrDFS  03v1E.91404$e75.49971@fx34.iad
      SteveCarroll  f8b4658d-4c19-41be-8887-5af024ace45a@googlegroups.com
    MrDFS  wHv1E.103942$Q95.100850@fx41.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--2.30am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m110 Top; 6.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 21 {  7: 2pm, 2019 }: 9^(-5)  Xȷʖʁ
      DFS reminds me of Amanda KoXXX, (Judas) Iscariot, 69 4 me.

You (DFS) wrote:
> GreyCloud's last words to cola were "I like Hannity's show.", 
> so Killary probably got him.

You remind me of Amanda KoXXX, (Judas) Iscariot, 69 4 me.
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          FabianRussell  q24t3901c2g@news1.newsguy.com
        MrDFS  dNt1E.2$JY1.0@fx02.iad
      FabianRussell  q25plg012as@news3.newsguy.com
    MrDFS  yuv1E.23053$E44.18703@fx28.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.22--2.17am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m110 Top; 6.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 21 {  6:48pm, 2019 }: 8^(-5)  Xȷʔ8
      Fabian's bra.

Fabian wrote:
> > Stallman is destined to go down in history as one of the
> > greatest contributors of 20th/21st century progress.

I wonder if Fabian tosses her bra to Stallman.

Emacs sucks; vi sucks; I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2017,
Community (free) Edition.   Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
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              FabianRussell  q25afs024s2@news4.newsguy.com
            Owl  9a0b803gag.a3uo3@rooftop.invalid
          FabianRussell  q25lme02b6g@news4.newsguy.com
        Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q25o2c$bsd$4@gioia.aioe.org
      FabianRussell  q25pnv112as@news3.newsguy.com
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q25r4h$1tp2$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--5.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m29 Shifty; 6 Secs, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 21 {  5:20pm, 2019 }:17  Xȷʅʉ
      Who is Amanda KoXXX and where did she come from ? !

Amanda KoXXX wrote:
> Do you want to fuck me ?
> It will cost you 2,000$ per hour.  Let me know.

Who are you and where did you come from ? !
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              SteveCarroll  f558fac9-c530-47d1-a72b-0a5b12ba25c4@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  h4ub4elnbncmmf9rln8c7npdaorldp7tro@4ax.com
          SnitBot  gamfc5Fg0r9U1@mid.individual.net
        Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q25fgg$bsd$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--3.23pm.Seattle.2019
    Owl  szbzb93g.3g@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--5.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m128 Top; 24.5 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 21 {  3:37pm, 2019 }:12  XȷɴȾ
      Etymology of: " This website is borked ".

Owl replied:
> > > the term "snit" has evolved into a term much like 
> > > "Bork" or "Borked" ( justice Bork ).
> > 
> > "To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the Swedish Chef Muppet
> > because he always screws up and says "Bork Bork Bork".
> 
> It's a slang play on the word broke or broken. 

While all three of us are technically correct,
I'm using the one that UNIX beards think of.

UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term=Borked

  Something is "borked" when it doesn't work correctly
  or misbehaves, generally due to negligence by 
  the person(s) that are responsible for it.

  Etymology:  Combine one part "broken" 
  and one part Swedish Chef and you get "borked."

  This website is borked.
  That mechanic borked your car.
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              .  c29421e5-1473-4138-b557-f7dc2a7f997a@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--6.19pm.Seattle.2019
          SteveCarroll  f558fac9-c530-47d1-a72b-0a5b12ba25c4@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  h4ub4elnbncmmf9rln8c7npdaorldp7tro@4ax.com
      SnitBot  gamfc5Fg0r9U1@mid.individual.net
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q25fgg$bsd$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--3.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m27 Shifty; 1.1 Hours, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 21 {  2: 1pm, 2019 }:52  Xȷɤɰ
      "To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the "Swedish Chef" Muppet.

Amanda:
> the term "snit" has evolved into a term much like 
> the term Bork or Borked ( justice Bork) has.

"To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the "Swedish Chef" Muppet
because he always screws up and says "Bork Bork Bork".

"Cårven Der Pümpkîn":  YouTube.COM/watch?v=2Qj8PhxSnhg

Notice the hands, they're real.

Banquet(tm) Swedish Meatballs ( in a sour cream gravy ),
1.50$, are delicious.
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              Owl  s9z0b803ta.43i@rooftop.invalid
            SteveCarroll  005b134f-2a44-4d31-b7fe-7182bfcf6104@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--8.17am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  054fbfce-d945-4b5c-83c7-279d591e144a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--9.10am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  q255kg$2sa$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--11.34am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m157 Cool; 5.7 Minutes, UnisonMacBin, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 21 { 11:13am, 2019 }:20^(-7)  XȷȾɐ
      Most of the bankers who know me are retired.

Steve replied:
> > My client (ABA.COM) wants to use webpages instead;
> > but they aren't using me to create the website;
> > instead, they're using Asians (Indians).
> 
> I'd assume this would be done via intranet... 
> but I guess it needn't be limited to that.

It's just a different input/output method.
Excel is better, I think, but they aren't asking for my input.
Not everyone is good at Excel.

> > My job is to:
> > A. Maintain and update the ABA Bank Simulation Models
> >    – BankExec, BankExec International and BankSim (“Programs”).
> 
> That's cool! For some reason I thought 
> you were done with programming for $$.

Most of the bankers who know me are retired.
I work very few hours per year;
I recently got paid for the last four months of 2018.

Charles W. Haley is the brains behind this project;
he's 79 years old ( I'm 59 ).
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              SteveCarroll  3976f44c-83f6-4bc2-a1ef-92051319beb5@googlegroups.com
            FabianRussell  q24on701jle@news2.newsguy.com
          Owl  s9z0b803ta.43i@rooftop.invalid
        SteveCarroll  005b134f-2a44-4d31-b7fe-7182bfcf6104@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--8.17am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  054fbfce-d945-4b5c-83c7-279d591e144a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--9.10am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m149 Cool; 13.1 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 21 {  8:36am, 2019 }:31^(PST)  XȷkV
      Excel WorkBooks.

Steve asked:
> > > So, in essence, he's using Libre Office as a framework ;)
> > 
> > Of course he is, that's what script kiddies do.
> 
> You wrote this kind of stuff, didn't you ? What'd you use ?

My bank community simulation (BankSim.EXE) takes inputs 
from (Excel) WorkBooks, and outputs to WorkBooks.

Now, my client (ABA.COM) wants to use webpages instead;
but they aren't using me to create the website;
instead, they're using Asians (Indians).

My job is to:

A. Maintain and update the ABA Bank Simulation Models 
   – BankExec, BankExec International and BankSim (“Programs”).

B. Consult with ABA Program Manager to customize 
   the Programs to meet the requirements of the ABA.

C. Provide general maintenance of the computer simulations of the Programs.
D. Update manuals when models are updated.
E. Provide additional minor improvements to models as needed.

F. Update the model economies on a regular basis.
G. Fix mistakes found by model users in the field.
H. Regularly test the models to assure accuracy of the simulations.

I. Maintain general availability to answer questions concerning
   the simulations and problems found during installation or field use.
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              Owl  saz0b803t.ah34@rooftop.invalid
            FabianRussell  q24k0p0k2f@news3.newsguy.com
          SteveCarroll  3976f44c-83f6-4bc2-a1ef-92051319beb5@googlegroups.com
        FabianRussell  q24on701jle@news2.newsguy.com
      Owl  s9z0b803ta.43i@rooftop.invalid
    SteveCarroll  005b134f-2a44-4d31-b7fe-7182bfcf6104@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.21--8.17am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m144 Cool; 24.3 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 21 {  7:45am, 2019 }:13^(PST)  XȷbΣ
      Script Kiddies.

Speaking of Fabian, Owl and Steve wrote:
> > Looks like you are relying on the LO framework to hold your
> > hand because you are not up to a bit of programming.
> 
> So, in essence, he's using LO as a framework ;)

Of course he is, that's what script kiddies do.
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            .  3e11216f-5aa2-447f-b723-f15cd3b85070@googlegroups.com
          .  d546a329-e264-4a04-9a2e-bb2ac2e9b0bb@googlegroups.com
        .  bb689a47-2a8d-48f9-8f85-8fc410845c8b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
    HerbertGlazier  c29421e5-1473-4138-b557-f7dc2a7f997a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--6.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m260 Top; 15.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 64.134.228.21,  Jan 20 {  5:42pm, 2019 }:59^(PST)  XȶϿx
      Illegal immigrants are welcomed here.

Bert wrote:
> Gararges are mere roofs for 6 people, right here in Anaheim.
> I play pool with a guy who pays $200 a month to stay at the gararge,
> and he gets full protection [ from deportation ].

I know all about it, up close and personal.
They do the jobs that spoiled Americans refuse.

> If a wall is ever built the price to get into Mexicale will go up. 

If it doesn't get built, it won't be Trump's fault, that's for sure.

> The police know what is happening, and look the other way.

Yes, illegal immigrants are welcomed here too (Seattle).
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              Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q2088l$ptt$15@dont-email.me
            Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36ad53c26f56fedba27@news.eternal-september.org
          Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q208p5$ptt$17@dont-email.me
        Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36ad56b457981816a2f@news.eternal-september.org
      Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q209fu$ptt$20@dont-email.me
    Chris_M_Thomasson_│ahh_f_it  q20ceh$2ea$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--10.31am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 4  m23 Shifty; 18.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 19 {  3:38pm, 2019 }:54^(-8)  Xȵჲʮ
      Nadegda can't handle the truth.

Chris replied:
> > > CNN:  " Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report 
> > >         that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress "
> > > 
> > > CNN.COM/2019/01/18/po1itics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html
> > 
> > 404  No surprise there, really.
> 
> CNN.COM/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html
> 
> Works for me.  Try again.

Nadegda intentionally borks the link;
replacing an 'l' with a '1'; then blames it on Skeeter.

She can't handle the truth, most obviously.
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36ad53c26f56fedba27@news.eternal-september.org
            Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q208p5$ptt$17@dont-email.me
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36ad56b457981816a2f@news.eternal-september.org
        Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q209fu$ptt$20@dont-email.me
      Chris_M_Thomasson_│ahh_f_it  q20ceh$2ea$2@dont-email.me
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q20sk1$ptt$37@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--10.08am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m74 Top; 13.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 19 {  8:14pm, 2019 }:57  XȶgΒ
      Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report.

This is wrong, an 'l' was replaced with a '1':
> https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/po1itics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html
                                   ^
  https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html
                                   ^
" Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report 
  that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress "
■
              Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vp6l$142b$2@gioia.aioe.org
            AndrzejMatuch  kdu64e913ac06r3eqom2l7hrd8e3m4mp29@4ax.com
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q1vu61$g39$2@dont-email.me
        Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vvhv$1v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q20dji$7o7$1@dont-email.me
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20efr$310$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--4.13am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m21 Shifty; 10.8 Hours, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 {  4:13pm, 2019 }:47  Xȶ2ɫ
      " Heroin + Fentanyl + ??? " injections, XanaX pills, and alcoholic drinks.

Amanda wrote:
> It's cheaper to give a person a pill and kill them than 
> pay for health care for the latter years of this person's life.

" Heroin + Fentanyl + ??? " injections, XanaX pills, and alcoholic drinks
are what the _ kids are taking these days, to endure life.

Meanwhile, people think the worst thing they could do, these days,
is " fake smoke " ( bubblegum flavor vape ).

Again, the narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".
"Sustained Consumption" is the goal, not truthiness.
■
              Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vp6l$142b$2@gioia.aioe.org
            AndrzejMatuch  kdu64e913ac06r3eqom2l7hrd8e3m4mp29@4ax.com
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q1vu61$g39$2@dont-email.me
        Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vvhv$1v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
    RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q20e31$7o7$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.20--3.21am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m75 Dropped; 11 Hours, slrn➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 19 {  4: 6pm, 2019 }:57  Xȶ1v
      Legal Drugs and Privilege.

RonB wrote:
> I've done my part.  My wife and I had six kids.

Are you also a migrant farmer, a fruit picker ?
Do you clean toilets too ?

As a MiniEmployer, I've found that only Third World 
immigrants are willing to do such jobs.

Spoiled Americans might _ start having kids,
but not really finish the job.

Children of rich parents are the _ worst tenants...
because they've been raised on _ legal drugs and privilege.
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              PeeScent  btsrqe.844.19.1@news.alt.net
            ScottDoty  gahl2dFcsg0U4@mid.individual.net
          PeeScent  btssjf.bos.17.2@news.alt.net
        ScottDoty  gahmgkFcsg0U5@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--3.00pm.Seattle.2019
    Peter_Köhlmann│peter-koehlmann  q20afi$jv5$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--3.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m3 Shifty; 1 Minutes, KNode, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 19 {  3: 5pm, 2019 }:22^(1)  Xȵწა
      PeeScent is unimaginably illiterate; he can't use a browser.

Peter asked me:
> Who in his right mind would want to impersonate something like you ?

PeeScent isn't "in his right mind".
I think he's been homeless ever since he was kicked out of his 4th grade,
"special needs" class.
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              JeffRelf  btsqir.s3v.17.1@news.alt.net
            ScottDoty  gahkesFcsg0U3@mid.individual.net
          PeeScent  btsrqe.844.19.1@news.alt.net
        ScottDoty  gahl2dFcsg0U4@mid.individual.net
      PeeScent  btssjf.bos.17.2@news.alt.net
    ScottDoty  gahmgkFcsg0U5@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--3.00pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m37 Top; 26.1 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jan 19 {  2:26pm, 2019 }:28  Xȵღʔ
      PeeScent is unimaginably illiterate; he can't use a browser.

Scott replied:
> > there's something wrong with your first posted web site ,
> > and not as a way to blame you but this is why ,
> > i don't go to posted web sites
> 
> It should fill out a search on google images, allowing you to click
> the search button to see the images.
> On the images site, where the images live.

PeeScent is unimaginably illiterate; he can't use a browser.

That's how you know if a post is from him, impersonating me.
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              Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vvhv$1v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
          Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20455$1v1$7@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.23pm.Seattle.2019
      JeffRelf  btsqir.s3v.17.1@news.alt.net
    ScottDoty  gahkesFcsg0U3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--2.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m36 Top; 14.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jan 19 {  1:51pm, 2019 }:24  Xȵრε
      Bungee Dance Fitness.

>  a "meat tornado"

" Bungee Dance Fitness Wrocław Music & Motion "
YouTube.COM/watch?v=NZFehvsF40g
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
            Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20455$1v1$7@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.23pm.Seattle.2019
        JeffRelf  btsqir.s3v.17.1@news.alt.net
      Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20586$1v1$8@gioia.aioe.org
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--2.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m98 Top; 2.5 Minutes, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 19 {  1:45pm, 2019 }:13^(Seattle)  XȵჟΣ
      PeeScent ( not Amanda nor me ).

PeeScent ( not Amanda nor me ) wrote:
> > i push things up my bum

You can tell when it's PeeScent, not me,
because he's super illiterate, incapable of Googling.

JeffRelf:  "Jeff-Relf.Me @."
PeeScent:   Jeff-Relf.Me@     %│
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              Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vvhv$1v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
          Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20455$1v1$7@gioia.aioe.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.23pm.Seattle.2019
      JeffRelf  btsqir.s3v.17.1@news.alt.net
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20586$1v1$8@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.45pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m14 Shifty; 1.9 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 {  1:36pm, 2019 }: 6  Xȵპ6
      I can edge for hours.

Amanda wrote:
> i push things up my bum

Thanks to the "Tenga Flip 0 (Zero)", I can edge for hours.
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              Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vp6l$142b$2@gioia.aioe.org
            AndrzejMatuch  kdu64e913ac06r3eqom2l7hrd8e3m4mp29@4ax.com
          RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q1vu61$g39$2@dont-email.me
        Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vvhv$1v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q20455$1v1$7@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.23pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m13 Shifty; 1.1 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 {  1:17pm, 2019 }:25  Xȵლდ
      Happiness is an empty bladder ( not a warm gun ).

Amanda replied:
> > I'm not the least bit jealous of anyone who has kids and/or money.
> 
> Whatever makes you happy.

"Happiness" is an empty bladder ( not a warm gun ).

"Love" is a euphemism for money ( not "never having to say you're sorry" ).
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              AndrzejMatuch  vf354ep1cotb9g6ks0edv6b7jqqcobtrdi@4ax.com
            SteveCarroll  0332ff66-a178-4efe-b24b-0702beb10502@googlegroups.com
          AndrzejMatuch  j4k64e50ldnee5k3jdnp5p02e5hr7d48on@4ax.com
        ChrisAhlstrom  q1vra8$v5h$5@dont-email.me
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q1vuof$g39$4@dont-email.me
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q202v2$1v1$5@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--1.10pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m11 Shifty; 5.1 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 {   :57pm, 2019 }: 6  XȵთΛ
      "sustained consumption" is the goal, not truthiness.

Amanda wrote:
> I have friends that are Reagan conservatives, 
> and they too are ashamed of the ultra right wingers 
> trying to take control of the party. 
> 
> Overall, the USA is in a sad state of affairs.

Pick your poison, both are corrupt, Christianity & humanism.
The narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".

No matter what tribe you might belong to, Christianity or humanism,
"sustained consumption" is the goal, not truthiness.
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              AndrzejMatuch  ivi64epi1aub0n30oo5ppouol4npg0818b@4ax.com
            SnitBot  gah4n6Fal0lU1@mid.individual.net
          Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vp6l$142b$2@gioia.aioe.org
        AndrzejMatuch  kdu64e913ac06r3eqom2l7hrd8e3m4mp29@4ax.com
      RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q1vu61$g39$2@dont-email.me
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vvhv$1v1$2@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--0.47pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m8 Shifty; 8.4 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 { 11:58am, 2019 }:55  Xȵэе
      I got "rich" by lowering my expenses.

Amanda wrote:
> Pretty soon there will be no middle class.  It will be rich and poor.
> AOC among others gets this and while her solutions border on ludicrous 
> at least she understands that there is a problem that needs to get fixed.

In 1988, Provo Utah, my ex divorced me and sued for child support,
thus vaccinating me against the whole over-breeding problem others face.

1990, Seattle, I got a vasectomy and never looked back.
This way, I got "rich" by lowering my expenses. 
I'm not the least bit jealous of anyone who has kids and/or money.
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              poraty6@gmail_com  f048938a-0a7c-472d-9fd1-3010bc3a0634@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q1vepi$1p0m$2@gioia.aioe.org
          poraty6@gmail_com  cb93176a-56b2-41c4-9b96-477c2265a103@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q1vo0k$13i7$1@gioia.aioe.org
      poraty6@gmail_com  6f6ec35a-12d2-4e41-98c2-cbd576012e44@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q1vuef$n0$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--11.57am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m155 Cool; 14.1 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 { 11:40am, 2019 }:    XȵъϠ
      Mr. Odd draws squirrels to his lawn, using peanuts.

Mr. Odd draws squirrels to his lawn, using peanuts,
and then tries to teach them General Relativity.
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              SteveCarroll  0332ff66-a178-4efe-b24b-0702beb10502@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  j4k64e50ldnee5k3jdnp5p02e5hr7d48on@4ax.com
          SnitBot  gahad8Fbsr5U2@mid.individual.net
        Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vsk7$142b$6@gioia.aioe.org
      AndrzejMatuch  h4v64edhqffkvkld7579u8ivr7r9vaqsr8@4ax.com
    Amanda_KoXXX│iscariot694me  q1vuue$1v1$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.19--11.53am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m7 Shifty; 1.2 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan 19 { 11:48am, 2019 }:31  XȵьV
      2016, women were afraid to tell anyone that they liked Trump.

I can't prove it, but I get the feeling that, in 2016,
women were afraid to tell anyone that they liked Trump.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.56am.Seattle.2019
            AndrzejMatuch  7b124e5r0dgg625nfupvomacn1p6dd40l9@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--3.21pm.Seattle.2019
        .  4ab5ce01-e3e0-4b19-a09d-b6d3b78bad72@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--10.03am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  pso44e1tpdgk1312pc08am8vrkhln84b1n@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--5.31pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m15 Cool; 1.7 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 18 {  3:40pm, 2019 }:34^(-5)  XȵɴР
      You're supposed to buy all new hardware/software.

Andrzej replied:
> > Before 1980, the desktop market was very young, very small;
> > so standards were easy to change; no longer.
> 
> I wonder what would have happened had Apple not gone the Macintosh
> route and decided to continue developing the Apple ][ line. The Apple
> IIgs, from what I've seen, was fairly impressive for its time and
> showed that you could easily add a GUI without compromising on
> compatibility. 

Apple has never cared about backwards compatibility;
you're supposed to buy all new hardware/software.
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              .  a5be72a5-3fcf-4af5-941d-0dccc0f22d57@googlegroups.com
            .  3e2414e2-1a14-4584-8529-af6598ef38b2@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.56am.Seattle.2019
        AndrzejMatuch  7b124e5r0dgg625nfupvomacn1p6dd40l9@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--3.21pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  4ab5ce01-e3e0-4b19-a09d-b6d3b78bad72@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--10.03am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m150 Cool; 40.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 18 {  9:11am, 2019 }:53^(PST)  Xȵpჯ
      Before 1980, the desktop market was very young, very small.

> > Before the IBM PC, 1980, the desktop market barely existed.
> 
> Apple II

Before 1980, the desktop market was very young, very small;
so standards were easy to change; no longer.
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              Owl  ab090z9ega3.3a@rooftop.invalid
            HughHuntzinger  3e11216f-5aa2-447f-b723-f15cd3b85070@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  d546a329-e264-4a04-9a2e-bb2ac2e9b0bb@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  bb689a47-2a8d-48f9-8f85-8fc410845c8b@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  004d6232-de39-45cc-8886-452113b8e7fe@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.18--9.38am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m149 Cool; 5.9 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 18 {  8:59am, 2019 }:28^(PST)  Xȵnზ
      Poverty is a vice, wealth is a vice, everything is a vice.

Steve replied:
> > " Microsoft has pledged 500$ million to address homelessness,
> >   and build affordable housing units, in the Seattle area... "
> 
> I thought the mantra was the 1%ers only take, they never 
> give back? I think Bezos pledged a couple of billion for this 
> issue awhile back. 

Yes, and Bill Gates too, recently;
I've seen the results, upfront and personal.

Poverty is a vice, wealth is a vice, everything is a vice.
The narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".
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              MitchellRaemsch  29f2f08b-bce1-4341-ad46-eaf80171b033@googlegroups.com
            pnalsing@gmail_com  ebbc4a55-371e-4be8-93ba-96b56a0498c7@googlegroups.com
          MitchellRaemsch  ae86cf6f-a596-42a4-a224-2f7ae7845fbb@googlegroups.com
        pnalsing@gmail_com  c4721be4-ea73-4aee-97b9-6f1f9952f211@googlegroups.com
      MitchellRaemsch  d5b4f78d-8f82-4268-a027-f5798fdb3eca@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  c8b126a8-9bc1-4e06-8619-b2abbeb2f7c1@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--3.40pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 7  m246 Top; 5.4 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Jan 17 { 10: 8am, 2019 }: 1^(PST)  XȴΖɹ
      Einstein ignored the Nobel committee, and vice versa.

> > my real math and science Nobel wins.  God creates gravity.
> 
> Only your God can give you a Nobel.

Einstein ignored the Nobel committee, and vice versa.
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              .  q13tsh$1jje$3@gioia.aioe.org
            .  79cfd8a7-b374-46de-890d-9e991dc48fa6@googlegroups.com
          .  a5be72a5-3fcf-4af5-941d-0dccc0f22d57@googlegroups.com
        .  3e2414e2-1a14-4584-8529-af6598ef38b2@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.56am.Seattle.2019
    AndrzejMatuch  7b124e5r0dgg625nfupvomacn1p6dd40l9@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--3.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m149 Cool; 19.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan 17 {  2:45pm, 2019 }: 7^(-5)  XȴϒΜ
      First and foremost, Microsoft sells compilers.

Andrzej asked:
> > IBM offered customers MicroSoft's DOS or Kildall's CP/M;
> > CP/M cost 200$ more, so MicroSoft won the battle.
> 
> Was CP/M at the time actually better than Microsoft's DOS ?

Before the IBM PC, the desktop market barely existed;
as the market grew, DOS became the superior option.
First and foremost, Microsoft sells compilers.

To this day, I prefer Microsoft Visual Studio 2017,
Community (free) Edition.   Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
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              HughHuntzinger  8ef6ac3e-e84e-4bea-9ebb-87f30756e8d5@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  5f1a1ad1-fd7f-4d0e-9a18-6c795f7ca055@googlegroups.com
          Owl  ab090z9ega3.3a@rooftop.invalid
        HughHuntzinger  3e11216f-5aa2-447f-b723-f15cd3b85070@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  d546a329-e264-4a04-9a2e-bb2ac2e9b0bb@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  bb689a47-2a8d-48f9-8f85-8fc410845c8b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m88 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jan 17 {   :47pm, 2019 }:51^(PST)  Xȴθჭ
      A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing.

Hugh replied ( to Steve ):
> > You're so entrenched in numbers and stats you forget to 
> > look out the f*cking window to see how they don't really
> > provide all the answers to the degree you seem to believe.
> 
> Oh, I'm looking out the window all the time at the raging hordes
> of illegals who are terrorizing our countryside and pillaging all 
> of our municipal resources ... oh, there goes another one now! /S
> Ohhh the humanity!  Ohhh the children!  Ohhh pass the ammunition! 

Steve is exaggerating, obviously.

Of my 32 tenants, two ( a married couple ) are from the Congo,
one is from Ethiopia, another from Gambia, 1 Bolivian, 1 French,
1 Filipino ( but with a Washington state license ).

Previously, I housed people with Chinese, Japanese, Nigerian, Laotian,
Guam, Bangladeshi, and Indonesian ( a family of 4 ) passports.

The Indonesian family of 4, living in the 160 SqFt room ( shared housing ),
are doing exceptionally well now, in a large University apartment.
The husband is looking for a second wife, I think.

In the news today:
" Microsoft has pledged 500$ million to address homelessness,
  and build affordable housing units, in the Seattle area... "
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              RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com  q1oo67$ua0$1@dont-email.me
            HughHuntzinger  8ef6ac3e-e84e-4bea-9ebb-87f30756e8d5@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  5f1a1ad1-fd7f-4d0e-9a18-6c795f7ca055@googlegroups.com
        Owl  ab090z9ega3.3a@rooftop.invalid
      HughHuntzinger  3e11216f-5aa2-447f-b723-f15cd3b85070@googlegroups.com
    Owl  p12sazx08b083ta.h3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.05pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m122 Top; 14.6 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan 17 {  1:42pm, 2019 }:38  Xȴςc
      No one wants to be banished to the woods.

Owl replied:
> > lower income wages have lagged vs  REAL  expenses for the past 30 years;
> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...
> > precisely what the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> 
> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.

People like living in the city, especially if they don't need a car;
no one wants to be banished to the woods.
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              SteveCarroll  9923b32a-a980-43d1-abf8-2c3df34fac5e@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  c927e922-f94d-4332-91bf-ac0f69ea12c0@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  c3f0ad6f-5d7a-4907-ab52-e8ace918128e@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  86a7ad36-e416-4550-9d48-5ff7ec4f213d@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--8.52am.Seattle.2019
    HughHuntzinger  6683394a-eca6-4160-bac8-bc55c63427c3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--1.37pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m87 Top; 14.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jan 17 {   :36pm, 2019 }:18^(PST)  XȴηI
      I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

Hugh replied:
> > Google " Hosehold Income and Political Affiliation ".
> 
> First hit:
> people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identification-detailed-tables/

" People in Democratic-leaning states 
  make more money than those in Republican-leaning states ".

    Cleveland.COM/datacentral/index.ssf/2015/09/blue_states_red_states_rich_st.html

> > We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
> > when it comes to marriage, equal  OUTCOMES  are enforced,
> > as if no man is better than the next.
> 
> Good observation, even though it doesn't mean that it is right.

Thanks.

> the rich currently pay lower net tax rates

Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
The rich pay more property taxes, more capital gains,
more sales taxes, more insurance payments, more lawyers, bankers, etc.

> Warren Buffett pointed this hypocrisy out a few years ago...

I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett;
if his secretary isn't a Democrat, she's probably doing fine too.
"God" (nature) programmed us to over-eat and over-breed.
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              Arindam_Banerjee│  c48a5ebb-5fe9-44c3-baef-9434d129288e@googlegroups.com
            Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com  46de3fb3-254f-46a1-978c-bf916f86c3e7@googlegroups.com
          BenJacoby  q13tsh$1jje$3@gioia.aioe.org
        Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com  79cfd8a7-b374-46de-890d-9e991dc48fa6@googlegroups.com
      Arindam_Banerjee│  a5be72a5-3fcf-4af5-941d-0dccc0f22d57@googlegroups.com
    Mahipal│mahipal7638@gmail_com  3e2414e2-1a14-4584-8529-af6598ef38b2@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--11.56am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 9  m24 Cool; 6.8 Days, GoogleG, 96.255.213.183,  Jan 10 {  3: 1pm, 2019 }:55^(PST)  Xvწɳ
      CP/M cost 200$ more, so MicroSoft won the battle.

Mahipal:
> > > didn't Bill buy DOS cheap, then licensed it to IBM.

1980, Seattle, Bill licensed "DOS" ( then vaporware ) to IBM;
to fulfill the contract, he purchased a CP/M clone from a CPU-board tester.

IBM offered customers MicroSoft's DOS or Kildall's CP/M;
CP/M cost 200$ more, so MicroSoft won the battle.
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          David_Dalton│dalton@nfld_com  0001HW.21E5CEEB0637FAE6700009B5B2CF@news.eternal-september.org
        Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  6dae05bb-9b7a-1ba1-1d98-0f98b6a633ca@PointedEars.de
      David_Dalton│dalton@nfld_com  0001HW.21E70DEC0682BFE2700009B5B2CF@news.eternal-september.org
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  5ac313b1-a411-e476-5841-fc79854d2687@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--9.43am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.Text.Tex, Sci.Geo.Geology, Sci.Physics.Acoustics, Sci.Math
    ╱ 13  m46 Cool; 1 Weeks, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Cust.Swisscom.CH➤Open-News-Network.ORG,  Jan 10 {  6:30am, 2019 }:39^(1)  XvЗd
      Thomas should move to China, Russia, or North Korea.

Thomas:
> No article in the world is relevant for more than
> a few newsgroups.  If World War Ⅲ is announced,
> it will be announced in news.announce.important.

You should move to China, Russia, or North Korea,
where they love censorship as much as you do.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.05am.Seattle.2019
            HughHuntzinger  d7ca11a1-0181-4f6e-90be-c8ef5da3a44d@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  9923b32a-a980-43d1-abf8-2c3df34fac5e@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  c927e922-f94d-4332-91bf-ac0f69ea12c0@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  c3f0ad6f-5d7a-4907-ab52-e8ace918128e@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  86a7ad36-e416-4550-9d48-5ff7ec4f213d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--8.52am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m83 Top; 32.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jan 17 {  7:46am, 2019 }: 8^(PST)  Xȴʝ϶
      Who speaks for the poor ?

Hugh:
> Facts are a stubborn thing despite how you try to deny them.

Enabling scofflaws, as you Democrats do, has nothing to do with "facts".

You're rich, so you just don't care,
-- you think everyone should spend money like you do;
so much so, you wrote it into the law.

> the powerful has undermined our Democratic Republic 
> for their individual gain while fucking over the remaining 90%-99%.  

Who speaks for the poor, you ?

I earned 4,000$ last year, in Seattle.
Democrats have higher annual salaries than Republicans;
Google " Hosehold Income and Political Affiliation ".

> If the income inequality isn't fixed, there's invariably going to be 
> a general revolution where the rich are murdered in their mansions.

We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
when it comes to marriage, equal  OUTCOMES  are enforced,
as if no man is better than the next.

An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos, 
is about to become the world's richest woman.

If she drags Jeff's ass through court, 
we'll learn about his darker side, dooming him.
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              HughHuntzinger  fa092c2a-5d18-4a4e-93fb-acdb9b77cf25@googlegroups.com
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.05am.Seattle.2019
          HughHuntzinger  d7ca11a1-0181-4f6e-90be-c8ef5da3a44d@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  9923b32a-a980-43d1-abf8-2c3df34fac5e@googlegroups.com
      HughHuntzinger  c927e922-f94d-4332-91bf-ac0f69ea12c0@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  c3f0ad6f-5d7a-4907-ab52-e8ace918128e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--8.10am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m141 Cool; 25.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Jan 17 {  7: 5am, 2019 }:24^(PST)  Xȴʖგ
      Democrats are rich scofflaws.

Poor Steve told rich Hugh:
> There is 'helping' the poor'... then there is 
> 'helping the poor until you become poor'.

Democrats are rich scofflaws. 
Republicans are the obedient poor.

Hugh isn't worried about becoming poor;
besides, he'd spend "your" money, Steve.

Rich Steve asked poor me:
> What if  MILLIONS  came over your wall
> while you were busy answering the door ?

That's par for the course because "God" (nature)
programmed us to over-eat and over-breed.
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36a1406bd4fc6e908ed@news.eternal-september.org
            Sir_Gaygorys_Owners_Owner_🐶笛│  doCdnUjW5LviDqrBnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@giganews.com
          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36a14451eb4400ae8f4@news.eternal-september.org
        Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q1c94e$gdu$13@dont-email.me
      Checkmate│oshay_shad@yahoo_  MPG.36a47b921c564707995fa2@news.altopia.com
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q1g8ft$gdu$25@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.44am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 13  m66 Top; 3.5 Days, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 13 {   :53pm, 2019 }:17  Xxზы
      Laws are losing their meaning, no one wants to enforce them.

Scofflaw Nadegda wrote:
> Illegal immigrants commit fewer violent crimes than natural citizens

You don't know everything an undocumented person does, trust me.

Truth is: Laws are losing their meaning, no one wants to enforce them.
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              James_McGinn│jimmcginn9@gmail_  0404607d-88b2-405d-8c02-7d479950bbc1@googlegroups.com
            Volney│volney@volney_invalid  q1i2eb$pdg$1@dont-email.me
          James_McGinn│jimmcginn9@gmail_  37811cac-d6aa-4ef6-b5bb-5d316394c8ab@googlegroups.com
        Volney│volney@volney_invalid  q1iidr$t5i$1@dont-email.me
      James_McGinn│jimmcginn9@gmail_  12870e71-f5d5-4dc7-9356-6b113e1823cd@googlegroups.com
    EdProchak  fd5c9dcf-23a4-409b-9638-35fcb4567a79@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.26am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m22 Top; 1.5 Days, GoogleG, 173.184.31.24,  Jan 15 {  1:25pm, 2019 }:54^(PST)  Xzɞɲ
      Nature made us this way.

Lots of people have bizarre beliefs, like James McGinn;
they preach: the earth is flat, NASA is a big lie,
and "God" is a pizza-loving wanker.

They can't tolerate the notion that "God" might be nature,
and that evolution explains our (sad) reality:
we've been programmed to over-eat and over-procreate.

Nature made us this way.
■
              SteveCarroll  fc13cf5e-41a3-4907-bb7c-ce69434740c1@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  9ab9b80a-a18d-4286-8af9-d6f621355c2d@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  1c4e72e7-c074-4960-976f-01e9cea6537a@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  fa092c2a-5d18-4a4e-93fb-acdb9b77cf25@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.05am.Seattle.2019
    HughHuntzinger  d7ca11a1-0181-4f6e-90be-c8ef5da3a44d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m80 Top; 5.1 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.71,  Jan 15 {  3:26pm, 2019 }:17^(PST)  Xzɲʉ
      Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.

Hugh replied:
> > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed. 
> 
> That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s 
> huge harm ongoing from it, yet he hasn’t quantified it.

A wall, with cameras, would help gather your statistics;
currently, an ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
make his way up to the U.S. border and, with help, cross it.

> > Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich". 
> 
> current laws are very much slanted to benefit the rich 
> ( including how they’re able to exploit the 
>   illegals for their financial gain ) 

No one can do anything about theft, here in Seattle;
no one is jailed, no one is punished, not even a voice can be raised.
" How may I help you steal today ? ", is the city's vibe.

And they're stealing rent too, not just money and alcohol.

Children of rich parents are the worst tenants...
because they've been raised on _ legal drugs and privilege.

One tenant graffitied every inch of his room, ceiling, 
walls, furniture... everything.  Blood splatter everywhere,
from his intravenous drug use.

He got the hottest chicks and had the foulest mouth.

He refused to move out unless I gave him a full refund of his deposit
( which his mom paid, of course ); he'd take me to court, he said.
He wouldn't pay rent, and he wouldn't vacate.

Lucky for me, his hot/rich girlfriend took him away...
so she could be closer to her heroin source.
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              SteveCarroll  1c4e72e7-c074-4960-976f-01e9cea6537a@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  fa092c2a-5d18-4a4e-93fb-acdb9b77cf25@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.05am.Seattle.2019
        SteveCarroll  9b49062a-16d0-4380-865a-db89bba6be52@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--0.18pm.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  f5289ba0-942c-4fca-83ba-627b8e43b916@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--8.56pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m140 Cool; 7.8 Hours, GoogleG,  Jan 15 {   :46pm, 2019 }: 7^(PST)  Xzɗϵ
      Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ?

Steve replied:
> > Either way, enabling lawlessness (Hugh) or ignoring the needy (Steve),
> > you're indulging in a vice.
> 
> It's not a vice to recognize you can't help everyone who needs 
> it. We should first be helping U.S. citizens, getting our own
> house in order, before we try to fix other things. 

Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ?

What if the supplicant is mentally ill ?

What if he's a scofflaw leech, working the system ?
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              SteveCarroll  fc13cf5e-41a3-4907-bb7c-ce69434740c1@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  9ab9b80a-a18d-4286-8af9-d6f621355c2d@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  1c4e72e7-c074-4960-976f-01e9cea6537a@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  fa092c2a-5d18-4a4e-93fb-acdb9b77cf25@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.05am.Seattle.2019
    SteveCarroll  9b49062a-16d0-4380-865a-db89bba6be52@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--0.18pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m139 Cool; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG,  Jan 15 { 10:36am, 2019 }:17^(PST)  XzȸH
      Give me your tired, your poor.

Steve replied:
> > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed.
> > Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich".
> > 
> > Combined, the narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".
> 
> LOL! 'Curbing' illegal activity isn't a "vice"...

What's more ChristLike than:

" Give me your tired, your poor,
  your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free,
  the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

  Send these, the homeless, the tempest-tost, to me;
  I lift my lamp beside the golden door !  "

Christ said:

" sell your possessions and give to the poor,
  and you will have treasure in heaven.  ...
  it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle
  than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. "

Then again, it's not a good idea to invite thieves to your table.

Either way, enabling lawlessness (Hugh) or ignoring the needy (Steve),
you're indulging in a vice.
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              SteveCarroll  a17dda66-0467-4bdb-8e5e-ddb979b56794@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  392a9fa7-aaf5-4047-ae45-5ccd454fd55e@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  fc13cf5e-41a3-4907-bb7c-ce69434740c1@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  9ab9b80a-a18d-4286-8af9-d6f621355c2d@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  1c4e72e7-c074-4960-976f-01e9cea6537a@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  fa092c2a-5d18-4a4e-93fb-acdb9b77cf25@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.05am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m78 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jan 15 {  8:14am, 2019 }:10^(PST)  Xzgʂ
      My vice is better than yours.

Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed.
Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich".

Combined, the narrative is: " My vice is better than yours ".
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        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--7.33am.Seattle.2019
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  2vbp3et51k81oq0ierhbhsvt7n6fqf3ejc@4ax.com
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q1jf2g$gdu$45@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--11.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m1 Top; 4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan 14 {  6: 4pm, 2019 }:    XyВϠ
      Not needing a family is the primary benefit of wealthier societies.

Nadegda replied:
> > > An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos,
> > > is about to become the world's richest woman.
> > > 
> > > If she drags Jeff's ass through court,
> > > we'll learn about his darker side, dooming him.
> > > 
> > > We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
> > > when it comes to marriage, equal _ outcomes are enforced,
> > > as if no man is better than the next.
> > 
> > If I were Jeff, she would mysteriously disappear
> > and no trace of her would ever be found.
> 
> Noted, logged, and forwarded to the FBI...

....where it'll be lost, under a stack of #MeTo complaints.

"God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate 
even when it's counter beneficial to both yourself and society.
Not needing a family is the primary benefit of wealthier societies.
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              SteveCarroll  b13b1806-7df7-455c-9f5c-90158f3df719@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  842ebe15-e6dc-48f5-83d7-7ec20a69e1a4@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  q1if2g$8gp$1@dont-email.me
        HughHuntzinger  049aeb3a-55c0-4b66-bc00-6505142f34d7@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  073dea55-5dd5-43d7-bc31-ca3ddf21444f@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  88195722-31ad-42d4-bc56-b777cfee817d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--10.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m76 Top; 10 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Jan 14 {   : 2pm, 2019 }:43^(PST)  Xyαʣ
      Democrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas.

If you have any kind of intelligence, and/or resources,
it's not hard to move people and products across the U.S. border.

A retired ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
make his way up to the U.S. border, with help, and cross it.

Hugh Huntzinger asks for numbers, statistics; meanwhile, 
Democrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--7.33am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos.

An ordinary housewife, MacKenzie Bezos, 
is about to become the world's richest woman.

If she drags Jeff's ass through court, 
we'll learn about his darker side, dooming him.

We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
when it comes to marriage, equal _ outcomes are enforced,
as if no man is better than the next.
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              SteveCarroll  e9dc32da-46ad-4ef7-9755-b66788b24509@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  toje3e1de06ludbc8ul36n4a83b3ccke1h@4ax.com
          SteveCarroll  db4085bd-360e-4845-a501-0211cff808ac@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  220893b7-5ae1-4368-9b85-0f5863e2fb8b@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  8d8cf5a8-d952-4e5f-8ad5-299b80de9b98@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  df3ea842-a02e-4382-9cb0-734b3fc3d604@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--6.57am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 3  m67 Top; 2 Days, GoogleG, 74.105.120.71,  Jan 12 {  6:40am, 2019 }:57^(PST)  XxQз
      To properly document it, you'd need a better wall, with cameras.

Speaking of Trump's wall, Hugh asked:
> Just what has profoundly *changed* of late which now makes
> this some profoundly huge and immediate threat?   Be specific.

The world is shrinking.
Syrians fly into Ecuador and then make their way to the US border;
to properly document it, you'd need a better wall, with cameras.

No one is interested in "the truth", of course;
instead, it's all: "my vice is better than yours".

> For those over age 40 and pro-Trump, 
> did you lose your job in the 2006-2013 period?

I'd rather not ReLive 2006-2009, Seattle, thank you very much. 
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              SteveCarroll  3cf2b36e-eede-4ce5-a45b-3fdde136f0a8@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  72e5d7fd-8552-477c-a512-f7c190571ff6@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  e9dc32da-46ad-4ef7-9755-b66788b24509@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  toje3e1de06ludbc8ul36n4a83b3ccke1h@4ax.com
      SteveCarroll  db4085bd-360e-4845-a501-0211cff808ac@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  220893b7-5ae1-4368-9b85-0f5863e2fb8b@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--6.23am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 5  m67 Top; 2.7 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18,  Jan 11 {   :29pm, 2019 }:44^(PST)  Xwεღ
      See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil.

The Democrats are more than willing to jet off to the Caribbean
and Hawaii while government employees go unpaid.

See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.13--6.46am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Not needing a family is the primary benefit of wealthier societies.

Vice and corruption are endemic to _ every system,
including Christianity and humanism.

No matter what tribe you might belong to, Christianity or humanism,
"sustained consumption" is the only goal, truth be damned.

"God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate 
even when it's counter beneficial to both yourself and society.
Not needing a family is the primary benefit of wealthier societies.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--7.35pm.Seattle.2019
        mitchrae3323@gmail_com  969358b7-fe0a-476b-9001-86d71a71c114@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--6.46pm.Seattle.2019
    MitchellRaemsch@gmail_com  d4a733ae-3691-4932-9294-7826fdcfb9db@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.9--2.59pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m146 Dropped; 4.2 Hours, GoogleG, 67.160.131.146,  Jan  9 { 10: 9am, 2019 }:50^(PST)  Xvzϖ
      " the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth ".

Mitchell spams:
> God creates gravity.

Gravity is residual exergy, and it's slowly dying off.
"God" is nature, not a pizza-loving wanker.

> God's absolute truth is the next thing to himself...

This (above) makes no sense, I hope you know.
You're not speaking proper English, you lack basic education.

Hindustani's used to say " Cleanliness is next to godliness ";
now I'm hearing " Truthiness is next to godliness ",
as if anyone, anywhere, could withstand:
" the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth ".
■
              PeeScent  bsbb6a.rvt.19.12@news.alt.net
            Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  jtml2ed4qko25si6fi1g5dhubdkd4n996o@4ax.com
          SnitBot  g9054bFgtliU1@mid.individual.net
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q0ff04$8bh$2@gioia.aioe.org
      Just_Wondering│JW@me_com  YEHWD.113547$LD7.2279@fx20.iad
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  q146q5$jer$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.9--1.19am.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m64 Top; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Jan  8 { 11:11pm, 2019 }: 2  Xuхм
      Marxists are under attack from every direction.

Nadegda replied:
> > Like Hiliary calling voters deplorables ?!
> 
> I don't see any problem with calling a bigot a bigot.

Marxists are under attack from every direction;
you might want to hide.
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              Owl  szxb903ga.a3ghuo4@rooftop.invalid
            HughHuntzinger  9c1c195c-424a-438d-b77a-818729d0b190@googlegroups.com
          Owl  sz8b3ag.3h3ou4@rooftop.invalid
        HughHuntzinger  376a4281-b58a-4aa5-8629-883b69ea7f8a@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--8.28pm.Seattle.2019
    ScottDoty  g9ldpjF4pbjU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--9.14pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m32 Top; 3.8 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET,  Jan  8 {  9: 5pm, 2019 }:55  Xuаჱ
      Is Linux Mint a copyright scofflaw ?

Scott replied:
> > Is Linux Mint a copyright scofflaw ?
> > 
> > "WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Linux_Mint" says:
> > 
> >   The Free Software Foundation has criticized Linux Mint
> >   for using proprietary software such as Adobe Flash Player
> >   and proprietary codecs such as MP3 and MP4.
> > 
> >   Linux Mint can also run many programs designed for 
> >   Microsoft Windows ( such as Microsoft Office )...
> 
> What "copyright" are you referring to?

The proprietary software/codecs mentioned above.

Probably not.
■
              Owl  siz08b08aw43.a3@rooftop.invalid
            HughHuntzinger  55d1e09a-ea8c-4781-8189-41396c2673b0@googlegroups.com
          Owl  szxb903ga.a3ghuo4@rooftop.invalid
        HughHuntzinger  9c1c195c-424a-438d-b77a-818729d0b190@googlegroups.com
      Owl  sz8b3ag.3h3ou4@rooftop.invalid
    HughHuntzinger  376a4281-b58a-4aa5-8629-883b69ea7f8a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--8.28pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m58 Top; 6.1 Hours, GoogleG,  Jan  8 {  1: 9pm, 2019 }:47^(PST)  Xuμϒ
      Is Linux Mint a copyright scofflaw ?

owl wrote:
> > ...distros, where the primary differences are software-freedom policy,
> > package management, and commercial support.

Is Linux Mint a copyright scofflaw ?

"WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Linux_Mint" says:

  The Free Software Foundation has criticized Linux Mint
  for using proprietary software such as Adobe Flash Player
  and proprietary codecs such as MP3 and MP4.

  Linux Mint can also run many programs designed for 
  Microsoft Windows ( such as Microsoft Office )...

  The ability to edit menu items is a feature that 
  was contributed by a Linux Mint user.  

  The 2015 WikiMedia Traffic Analysis Report 
  shows  6.4  Million hits for Linux Mint while the 
  highest-placed Linux distribution, Ubuntu, had  1.2  Billion hits.
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              FabianRussell  q12vhj02aml@news3.newsguy.com
            MrDFS  n_7ZD.56630$i44.14211@fx11.iad
          FabianRussell  q132va02iv7@news1.newsguy.com
        Owl  a0zcx8b0zb3.a@rooftop.invalid
      FabianRussell  q1370l02koc@news1.newsguy.com
    Owl  a0zx8b03ga.3i@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--7.38pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 5  m110 Top; 5.1 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan  8 {  2:11pm, 2019 }:38  Xuφრ
      Which fonts ( and relative font sizes ) you want to use for each glyph.

> > I've done Unicode tests and uxterm can handle them all.
> 
> imgur.com/a/EOpqgf1

Proper Unicode support lets you specify 
which fonts ( and relative font sizes ) you want to use for each glyph,
while maintaining mono- and duo- spaced character widths.

FireFox comes close, but not quite.
■
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--7.35pm.Seattle.2019
    mitchrae3323@gmail_com  969358b7-fe0a-476b-9001-86d71a71c114@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.8--6.46pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m144 Dropped; 2.9 Hours, GoogleG, 67.160.131.146,  Jan  8 {  3:28pm, 2019 }:13^(PST)  XuϚϻ
      "God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate.

Mitchell:
> Truth is the next thing to God.

You meant: " Truthfulness is next to godliness ( ha ha ) ".

Likely, you can't tell me why the "ha ha" should be there;
your English is _ really bad, and you lack basic education.

Truth is:

  "God" (nature) has programmed "you" (us) to eat and procreate 
  even when it's counter beneficial to both yourself and society.
■
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--7.35pm.Seattle.2019
    BranimirMaksimovic  Q%UYD.62808$ux2.1271@fx25.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--8.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 10  m79 Top; 37.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Jan  7 {  7:43pm, 2019 }:44  Xubɨ
      The luxury of not having kids.

Branimir replied:
> > The richer your country, the higher your benefits,
> > and the lower the birth rate.
> 
> Not necessarily.  Serbia is poor country with a low birth rate;
> we Serbians don't wont to subject more children to beggary.

The poorest countries, where people are dying at age 19,
can't afford the luxury of not having kids.

Serbia was far poorer in 1953; 
so its "fertility rate" ( births per woman ) was 3.05/woman then.

It's better now, so 2015 saw 1.46/woman.  Singapore's rate is .83/woman.
Things were worse back in 1991, Serbia; so it was 2.08/woman then.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.7--7.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      "Usefulness" matters most, far more than truthiness.

Marxism clashes with Christianity and Islam because it is, itself,
yet another religion; another tribe, in the fight.

Jordan Peterson understands that "usefulness" matters most,
far more than truthiness.  And this applies to _ everything,
including science, Marxism and Islam.

And he _ completely ignores "lobsters" when it comes to men finding wives;
here, he wants guaranteed equal _ outcomes, "for the sake of the children".

The richer your country, the higher your benefits,
and the lower the birth rate.
■
    kensi│kkensinqton01@gmail_  n6b23ed4sl0lkeksdmrsr9i5dsfiq3l09r@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.5--10.54pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m2 Cool; 8.3 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET➤Aoie.ORG,  Jan  5 {  2:22pm, 2019 }:15^(-5)  XsψϽ
      Kensi's religion isn't that large.

Kensi:
> "Climate Change and the Ocean: A Stark Message from the IPCC"
> There is never any good news, and it gets worse 
> the more climate deniers deny the reality.

Most Americans believe in a judgment day;
"Climate Change" is Kensi's version of it;
problem is, her religion isn't that large.
■
    Owl  z9z0xb8043ga.3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.5--10.29pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m91 Top; 3.6 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Jan  5 {  6:24pm, 2019 }:44  XsЖi
      "I hate Windows, sorry".

> I got railroaded into cracking 
> into a doze box for my wife's cousin.
>    ...
> I'm tempted to just tell her I couldn't get in it.
> Hmmm...

Tell her: "I hate Windows, sorry".

You'll never be any good at something 
that you hate, obviously.
■
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.5--6.18am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Slutty Sexy

Slutty Sexy

"Havana" by Camila Cabello
Youtube.COM/watch?v=BQ0mxQXmLsk
■
              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--2.38pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q0m7af$crb$1@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--5.34pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q0o17i$k54$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--2.48pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q0or72$ieo$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--4.35pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m192 Dropped; 33.3 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan  4 {  3:45pm, 2019 }:38  Xrჳσ
      The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero.

Michael replied:
> > Gravity is residual exergy, and it's dying off.
> 
> It's not dying off if Big G is unchanging.  It will just be 
> less relevant over time, at some time in the future.

The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero.

"The Big Freeze" has no kinetic energy, much less gravitational energy.
There's no "down" direction.

WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--11.51pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q0lans$mm4$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--2.38pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q0m7af$crb$1@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--5.34pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q0o17i$k54$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--2.48pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m191 Dropped; 6.2 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan  4 {  8:22am, 2019 }:10  XrЩϸ
      Gravity is residual exergy, and it's dying off.

Michael replied:
> > General Relativity's G is a constant, of course;
> 
> So what was all that about "gravity is slowly dying" then?

I'm just repeating myself, I don't know how you could possibly
fail to understand what I'm talking about; to wit:

    Gravity is residual exergy, and it's dying off.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.48pm.Seattle.2019
            MichaelMoroney  q0hhb3$g0n$3@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--11.51pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q0lans$mm4$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--2.38pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q0m7af$crb$1@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--5.34pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m192 Dropped; 43.5 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan  3 {  3:53pm, 2019 }:51  Xrɶჭ
      Zero kinetic energy.

Michael replied:
> > Big G is irrelevant in a uniform heat bath universe.
> 
> Wait a minute, you keep posting stuff like "gravity is dying off"
> or "gravity is slowly dying". What does that mean, 
> if not Big G is decreasing to zero?

General Relativity's G is a constant, of course;
no matter, "a uniform heat bath universe" has: 

    No curvature, No exergy, No "down".

Wikipedia says:

  "The Big Freeze" is a scenario under which 
  continued expansion results in a universe that 
  asymptotically approaches absolute zero temperature.

  This scenario, in combination with the Big Rip scenario,
  is currently gaining ground as the most important hypothesis.

In other words:  Zero kinetic energy.

WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018
            MichaelMoroney  q0gvr6$18p$2@pcls7.std.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.48pm.Seattle.2019
        MichaelMoroney  q0hhb3$g0n$3@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--11.51pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q0lans$mm4$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--2.38pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m191 Dropped; 6.4 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan  3 {  7:46am, 2019 }: 4  Xrbϲ
      There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe.

Michael replied:
> [ a uniform heat bath universe might ] 
> have potential energy that can _never_ be used as exergy.

There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe;
so you can't fall down; kinetic energy isn't possible.

> But my point simply is there is no connection between 
> the statistics that drive toward a heat death 
> and the gravitational constant G.  It is a constant.

So ?!  Big G is irrelevant in a uniform heat bath universe.
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              .  c0faae3b-7148-433d-9afa-3a1f2c5ecafa@googlegroups.com
            .  q0jj0h$def$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.19pm.Seattle.2019
        PeeScent  bsgajq.ij6.17.3@news.alt.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.39pm.Seattle.2019
    JeffRelf  bsgbdo.tpf.17.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--8.27pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m91 Top; 3.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Jan  2 {  4:43pm, 2019 }:56^(-7)  Xqϵɴ
      PeeScent is homeless, I assume.

PeeScent replied:
> > > usenet hasn't existed for 28 years
> > 
> > There you go again, displaying your fifth grade education, PeeScent.
> > You can't Google, nor can you add and subtract.
> > 
> > Usenet started in 1980, 39 years ago;
> > I had an account in 1986; starting in 1991, I was more into it.
>  
> bull shit

If only you could Google it yourself, PeeScent.

If you could capitalize letters, and construct meaningful sentences,
you'd look more like me.       You're homeless, I assume.
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              .  343f94c3-7812-4821-baae-18ff2c5ed7e6@googlegroups.com
            .  q0jh7j$5vv$1@gioia.aioe.org
          .  c0faae3b-7148-433d-9afa-3a1f2c5ecafa@googlegroups.com
        .  q0jj0h$def$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.19pm.Seattle.2019
    PeeScent  bsgajq.ij6.17.3@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.39pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m158 Dropped; 2.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Jan  2 {  4:30pm, 2019 }: 6^(-7)  Xqϳ6
      PeeScent's fifth grade education.

PeeScent replied:
> > I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now;
> > I tell everyone my real name, phone number, and address.
> > No one cares.
> 
> usenet hasn't existed for 28 years you also shoot a lot of bullshit

There you go again, displaying your fifth grade education.
You can't Google, nor can you add and subtract.

Usenet started in 1980, 39 years ago;
I had an account in 1986; starting in 1991, I was more into it.
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              Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q0e5cf$ue6$2@gioia.aioe.org
            JohnSefton  dbf548b4-e0aa-4c8d-b3e0-25fc0be32817@googlegroups.com
          poraty6@gmail_com  343f94c3-7812-4821-baae-18ff2c5ed7e6@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q0jh7j$5vv$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JohnSefton  c0faae3b-7148-433d-9afa-3a1f2c5ecafa@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q0jj0h$def$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.19pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m116 Cool; 11.1 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Jan  2 {  3:54pm, 2019 }:57  Xqϟv
      I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now.

Mr. Odd replied:
> > Internet is unsafe PRECISELY because people are allowed to be anonymous
> 
> Exactly! And since that is the case, 
> it’s an idiotic and foolhardy position to go unprotected. 
> 
> You might as well walk down dark alleys with $20 bills hanging out of your
> pockets, on the principle that people should feel safe walking in dark alleys. 

I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now;
I tell everyone my real name, phone number, and address.
No one cares.
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              HughHuntzinger  bdb1c2e6-7b16-41be-9036-9139355990a8@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  urcp2eldn5u9u9ne9uk65necoekk7o1cig@4ax.com
          HughHuntzinger  ec604ff3-37a1-4127-a6fa-d50490220648@googlegroups.com
        mouse│emailisevil@none_net  q0je4e$1mt5$1@gioia.aioe.org
      PeeScent  bsg4eq.ovb.19.4@news.alt.net
    mouse│emailisevil@none_net  q0jf7r$1smu$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--4.04pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m13 Shifty; 1.2 Hours, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Jan  2 {  2:50pm, 2019 }:35  Xqϓʛ
      No one speaks PeeScent's language.

> > could you show me the facts for typing you tow are
> 
> Could you try speaking English next time.

No one speaks PeeScent's language;
I think he got kicked out of elementary school.
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              PeeScent  bsdg6j.fsj.17.1@news.alt.net
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.07pm.Seattle.2019
          PeeScent  bsdhoq.h6g.19.1@news.alt.net
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.36pm.Seattle.2019
      PeeScent  bsdjbk.44f.19.2@news.alt.net
    Checkmate│oshay_shad@yahoo_  MPG.36960a1c2d4c3ebc995e0a@news.altopia.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.2--0.00am.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m204 Mad; 18 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET,  Jan  1 { 11:37pm, 2019 }:42^(-8)  XqɄɦ
      Old clams.

Checkmate told PeeScent:
> You ate an old clam.

That's what she said.
■
              HerbertGlazier  01c2f1c7-20ef-4606-ad9a-7ab44f063f86@googlegroups.com
            HerbertGlazier  959b8b1b-25f9-4d64-92ec-9840a0835217@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018
        MichaelMoroney  q0gvr6$18p$2@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.48pm.Seattle.2019
    MichaelMoroney  q0hhb3$g0n$3@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--11.51pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m200 Dropped; 1.9 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan  1 {  9:14pm, 2019 }:11  Xqqʃ
      A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity.

Michael replied:
> >  a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, but none of the 
> > "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do work, force * distance ).
> 
> I have no issue with the heat death of the universe.

Good because if you don't understand death,
then you don't understand life, 
and you can't function properly.

> >  Gravity is residual exergy.
> 
> That is simply crap you made up.

A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity;
"work" ( force * distance ) isn't possible.

Compressing our solar system to the size of a baseball,
as it once was, long ago, 
gives it less entropy and more exergy/gravity.

If entropy didn't go up, naturally,
and exergy/gravity didn't go down, naturally,
our time-scape wouldn't exist.
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          MrDFS  IbAWD.370904$GZ9.297650@fx45.iad
        HughHuntzinger  dd5a9e24-522a-44da-b162-f826bd963fdd@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--2.07pm.Seattle.2019
    MrDFS  amUWD.405393$GZ9.207980@fx45.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--5.32pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m137 Top; 6.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan  1 {  5:22pm, 2019 }:51^(-5)  XqDб
      Toasted Marshmallows.

MrDFS wrote:
> We had toasted marshmallows last week.  You light them on fire then 
> quickly blow them out, for a perfect toasted outside and melty inside.

Good idea, I'll try it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--2.07pm.Seattle.2019
            turkey│turkey@invalid_none  tCRWD.272378$vt3.260083@fx43.iad
          Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q0gp3i$op6$1@dont-email.me
        PeeScent  bsdg6j.fsj.17.1@news.alt.net
      mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  q0grig$enq$1@gioia.aioe.org
    HughHuntzinger  8852c40e-5878-4b08-b101-b4eab53c8b5a@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--5.08pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    +Top, 6.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.105.120.71,  Jan  1 {  4:53pm, 2019 }: 7^(PST)  Xq8с
      Swedish Meatballs ( in a sour cream gravy ) is delicious.

Hugh wrote:
> Sauerbraten.  The youngest generation still doesn’t grok
> the pickled beef, but ...

Swedish Meatballs ( in a sour cream gravy ) is delicious.
12 years ago, this Banquet(tm) dinner cost me 1$;
today, on sale, it's the same price.
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            .  IbAWD.370904$GZ9.297650@fx45.iad
          .  q0fr1g015l5@news3.newsguy.com
        .  CYSWD.96148$bC5.81685@fx25.iad
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.21pm.Seattle.2019
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  ch1o2ehlbr07ajmbd9h4pbo9hb8p3i52vp@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.53pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m246 Dropped; 17.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Jan  1 {  4:31pm, 2019 }:51^(-5)  Xq5ɯ
      How long have you been married, loser ?

Greg replied:
> > Extreme Vice ( loose women ) would be a bad thing
> > _ if there wasn't 8 billion people on this tiny planet.
> 
> I have no use for *loose* women.  I like my women tight,
> rubbery and slippery with their own natural lube because
> they've got the hots for me.

How long have you been married, loser ?
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              HerbertGlazier  455d36d4-4445-4ef0-bc1e-1c5c1f08b81f@googlegroups.com
            SamWormley  ad05aa5c-ff80-473e-b8b7-b745db535e46@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  01c2f1c7-20ef-4606-ad9a-7ab44f063f86@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  959b8b1b-25f9-4d64-92ec-9840a0835217@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  q0gvr6$18p$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.48pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m197 Dropped; 11.5 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Jan  1 {  4:15pm, 2019 }:34  Xq2ο
      What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade ?

What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade, "Michael" ( James McGinn ) ?

WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)

Eventually, all eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy,
but none of the "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do physical work,
force * distance ).  Gravity is residual exergy.

Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us 
that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
-- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
   is the most likley outcome.
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        MrDFS  IbAWD.370904$GZ9.297650@fx45.iad
      FabianRussell  q0fr1g015l5@news3.newsguy.com
    MrDFS  CYSWD.96148$bC5.81685@fx25.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--4.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m137 Top; 3.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Jan  1 {  3:45pm, 2019 }:31^(-5)  Xpჳμ
      Extreme Vice ( loose women ) would be a bad thing...

MrDFS wrote:
> cheers for amateur porn

Extreme Vice ( loose women ) would be a bad thing
_ if there wasn't 8 billion people on this tiny planet.

> jeers for amateur GuhNoo/GPL crapware

While I definitely _ NEED my for-profit apps,
I also enjoy these CostFree apps:

  Visual Studio Community 2017, YouTube-DL, 4k VideoDownLoader,
  Gimp, WinScp, FireFox, ThunderBird, Audacity, qBittorent, WinAmp.
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              Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q0gp3i$op6$1@dont-email.me
            PeeScent  bsdg6j.fsj.17.1@news.alt.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.07pm.Seattle.2019
        PeeScent  bsdhoq.h6g.19.1@news.alt.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.36pm.Seattle.2019
    PeeScent  bsdjbk.44f.19.2@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.52pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m169 Dropped; 7.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Jan  1 {  3:40pm, 2019 }:56^(-7)  Xpჲж
      Geoducks can live 168 years, maybe more.

PeeScent replied:
> > Your clam might've beeen 100 YEARS OLDER than you.
> 
> if there's a way to make sense out of that tell me what it is

Geoducks can live 168 years, maybe more.

Then you eat it.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--2.07pm.Seattle.2019
            turkey│turkey@invalid_none  tCRWD.272378$vt3.260083@fx43.iad
          Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q0gp3i$op6$1@dont-email.me
        PeeScent  bsdg6j.fsj.17.1@news.alt.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.07pm.Seattle.2019
    PeeScent  bsdhoq.h6g.19.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.36pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m168 Dropped; 13.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Jan  1 {  3:13pm, 2019 }:51^(-7)  Xpხɯ
      PeeScent's clam might've beeen 100 YEARS OLDER than him.

PeeScent:
> > > i had a 1400 pound moose with geoducks and sea greens
> > 
> > Wouldn't you know it, PeeScent it is my closest neighbor.
> 
> i'm a far walk from seattle

Right, you're space cadet.

Your clam might've been 100 YEARS OLDER than you.
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              MrDFS  IbAWD.370904$GZ9.297650@fx45.iad
            HughHuntzinger  dd5a9e24-522a-44da-b162-f826bd963fdd@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--2.07pm.Seattle.2019
        turkey│turkey@invalid_none  tCRWD.272378$vt3.260083@fx43.iad
      Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  q0gp3i$op6$1@dont-email.me
    %│persent@gmail_com  bsdg6j.fsj.17.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m73 Dropped; 15.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Jan  1 {  2:47pm, 2019 }: 4^(-7)  Xpჩо
      PeeScent it is my closest neighbor.

PeeScent:
> i had a 1400 pound moose with geoducks and sea greens

Wouldn't you know it, PeeScent it is my closest neighbor.
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              alal65536@gmail_com  6afc1e37-acde-44e5-b3b5-2bb4c3e7b3e5@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q0ab63$2hh$1@gioia.aioe.org
          alal65536@gmail_com  101842ec-c97b-4aee-8f7b-2baa44fc2ccd@googlegroups.com
        Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q0d4he$9qn$1@gioia.aioe.org
      alal65536@gmail_com  01510966-c14a-48a6-b87f-9a004ce32d81@googlegroups.com
    Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  q0g4ud$19ma$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--3.01pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m112 Cool; 5.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG,  Jan  1 {  8:36am, 2019 }:30  XpЬU
      Shut up and calculate.

The Copenhagen Interpretation still dominates: Shut up and calculate;
-- stop making ABSURD assumptions about Schrodinger's cat.

Otherwise, you'll be led down the science FICTION path,
like multi-worlds and superstring theory.

Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating,
-- science FICTION pays better than the REAL deal;
hence Christianity, Marxism, and other apocalypse cults.

The hot dense sun evaporates into the cold vacuum;
the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.

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              HerbertGlazier  01c2f1c7-20ef-4606-ad9a-7ab44f063f86@googlegroups.com
            HerbertGlazier  959b8b1b-25f9-4d64-92ec-9840a0835217@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018
        MrAA  b7ddcacb-38b2-41b1-838e-f7381d13f877@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
    HerbertGlazier  0808624b-bbd5-428b-a705-04f11da77733@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--2.21pm.Seattle.2019
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 3  m256 Top; 3.3 Hours, GoogleG, 64.134.228.21,  Jan  1 { 10:50am, 2019 }:29^(PST)  Xpтʕ
      The hot dense sun evaporates into the cold vacuum.

> > > Gravity never dies !
> > 
> > Everything dies; gravity is no exception.
> 
> Gravity is the exception.

The hot dense sun evaporates into the cold vacuum;
the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.

Eventually, all eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy,
but none of the eXergy.  

Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us 
that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
-- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
   is the most likley outcome.
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      MrDFS  IbAWD.370904$GZ9.297650@fx45.iad
    HughHuntzinger  dd5a9e24-522a-44da-b162-f826bd963fdd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--2.07pm.Seattle.2019
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m50 Top; 8.2 Hours, GoogleG, 74.105.120.71,  Jan  1 {  5:19am, 2019 }:45^(PST)  Xpϻɩ
      1.5 lb, thick-cut ribeye.

Hugh & DFS:
> > Dinner tonight is shrimp scampi, tuna tataki and roasted potatoes, 
> > courtesy of my good-cooking wife.  NY cheesecake, courtesy of Publix.
> >
> > I have a Foster's Premium Ale ( big green can ) to chug down, 
> > and, later, some Barefoot Bubbly, Pink Moscato champagne.
> 
> For the late evening, just some Prosecco bubbly and appetizers.

New Year's Eve, I had a 1.5 lb, thick-cut ribeye, 
thick-cut garlic cheese toast, pizza, pasta salad,
green salad, marshmallows, Concord grape juice...  etc.
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              AndrzejMatuch  tK9SD.20420$lx7.17889@fx44.iad
            SnitBot  g7so8gFqsqbU1@mid.individual.net
          Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  f5ll2e9v5dd9vdo9pi04krfrdnlq4a6sia@4ax.com
        SnitBot  g9037fFggpiU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.31--7.53pm.Seattle.2018
    SnitBot  g907b9Fhah2U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.31--8.16pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 2  m194 Mad; 3.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Dec 31 {  8: 7pm, 2018 }: 5^(-7)  Xpʡȷ
      Venezuela's top thug, Hugo Chavez.

SnitBot replied:
> > Venezuela's top thug, Hugo Chavez, rallied his people
> > to steal from "the rich"... just as you do, SnitBot.
> 
> Direct lie about my view.

More likely, you are lying to yourself.

Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating.
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              .  pun3je$t71$18@dont-email.me
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--7.58am.Seattle.2018
          AndrzejMatuch  tK9SD.20420$lx7.17889@fx44.iad
        BotBoy  g7so8gFqsqbU1@mid.individual.net
      Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com  f5ll2e9v5dd9vdo9pi04krfrdnlq4a6sia@4ax.com
    BotBoy  g9037fFggpiU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.31--7.53pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m189 Dropped; 15 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Dec 31 {  6:56pm, 2018 }:47^(-7)  Xpʕʧ
      Venezuela's top thug, Hugo Chavez.

Venezuela's top thug, Hugo Chavez, rallied his people
to steal from "the rich"... just as you do, SnitBot.

Problem is, you wind up stealing from everyone, not just the rich;
"Rat Utopia" experiments teach us that,
dense communities have too many attackers, too much vice.

First males stop guarding mothers ( too many attackers );
then mothers stop raising kids ( again, too many attackers ).
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          HerbertGlazier  2a8f0784-3066-42e2-b70c-b7f4b939ef8d@googlegroups.com
        BenJacoby  q06a1a$ihk$1@gioia.aioe.org
      HerbertGlazier  2453c84f-8852-48b2-b47a-a62d35d869d7@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  3e4296b2-0be5-4f2f-9182-0a889defd401@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--2.53pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m57 Top; 6.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 30 {  2:38pm, 2018 }:49^(PST)  Xoϑʩ
      They're not FDIC insured.

> Buy an ETF fund like SIVR for silver, or GLD for gold,

They're not FDIC insured.
Short-term, random volatility is immense;
and, at your age, everything is short-term.
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              HerbertGlazier  455d36d4-4445-4ef0-bc1e-1c5c1f08b81f@googlegroups.com
            SamWormley  ad05aa5c-ff80-473e-b8b7-b745db535e46@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  01c2f1c7-20ef-4606-ad9a-7ab44f063f86@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  959b8b1b-25f9-4d64-92ec-9840a0835217@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018
    MrAA  b7ddcacb-38b2-41b1-838e-f7381d13f877@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--2.47pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m57 Top; 18.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 30 {  2:27pm, 2018 }: 8^(PST)  XoωΝ
      Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

MrAA:
> Gravity never dies!

Everything dies; gravity is no exception.
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    mouse│emailisevil@none_net  q0bf4u$123f$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--2.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m1 Shifty; 20.6 Minutes, Pan, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 30 {  1:59pm, 2018 }:58  Xoτჴ
      The $867 billion farm bill.

> "The Trump administration will soon force able-bodied Americans who 
> receive food stamp benefits to get steady jobs instead if they wish to 
> continue receiving the benefits."

How vague.  What does "soon" mean ?

> The $400 billion law...

From the New York Times, 18 days ago:

  The $867 billion farm bill...

  Republican and Democratic negotiators decided to drop
  two proposals introduced by conservatives 
  and publicly championed by President Trump:

    one that would have imposed further work requirements
    on [ young, childless ] adults using SNAP...

Suppose you were young, rich and famous enough to "date" anyone;
like John Mayer, dating Taylor Swift. 

Now suppose you were naive enough to have kids.
You've got a custody battle coming, and lots of child support due.
"Love" is a euphemism for "money".

The wealth and wisdom of a nation is reflected in its birth rate,
from Singapore (best) to poorest Africa.
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.1970.2014.PNG
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          mitchrae3323@gmail_com  b7bdce49-c242-4769-82a5-c942c0b1749b@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  17db0a1f-18f1-4253-b560-59d15d14c573@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--10.31am.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  q0aqp5$onh$2@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--2.02pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m189 Dropped; 5.4 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Dec 30 {  8:12am, 2018 }:21  XoʢL
      Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

Michael replied:
> > Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
> 
> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it

We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.

Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense. 
Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
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          mitchrae3323@gmail_com  b7bdce49-c242-4769-82a5-c942c0b1749b@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  17db0a1f-18f1-4253-b560-59d15d14c573@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--10.31am.Seattle.2018
    HerbertGlazier  381cab83-c98b-45a9-8880-bee264e62688@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--2.14pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m271 Top; 8 Secs, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 29 {  2: 9pm, 2018 }:49^(PST)  Xnუϕ
      Everything evaporates, including "black holes".

> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
> 
> How slow is slow ?

Very slow, it's not a concern to us humans.

> BHs prove you are wrong.

Everything evaporates, including "black holes".
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      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  b7bdce49-c242-4769-82a5-c942c0b1749b@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  17db0a1f-18f1-4253-b560-59d15d14c573@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--10.31am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m265 Top; 1.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 29 { 10:23am, 2018 }:54^(PST)  Xnнჰ
      Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.

Mitchell wrote:
> > God creates gravity.

Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
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    kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q08c42$1dng$3@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.29--10.15am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m199 Mad; 6.4 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 29 {  9:49am, 2018 }:57^(-5)  Xnиɵ
      Kensi's "Major health study" is just "The Lancet Countdown".

Kensi's "Major health study" is just "The Lancet Countdown"
starting with her favorite conclusion and working backwards.

She needs her apocalypse cult, Kool-Aid and all.
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          HerbertGlazier  455d36d4-4445-4ef0-bc1e-1c5c1f08b81f@googlegroups.com
        SamWormley  ad05aa5c-ff80-473e-b8b7-b745db535e46@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  01c2f1c7-20ef-4606-ad9a-7ab44f063f86@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  959b8b1b-25f9-4d64-92ec-9840a0835217@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m266 Top; 5.6 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 28 {  4:39pm, 2018 }:25^(PST)  Xnɾζ
      Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.

The moon is "falling" away from the earth,
4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second,
and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--3.58pm.Seattle.2018
            BotBoy  g8nrovFn73nU3@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.16pm.Seattle.2018
        BotBoy  g8nsrgFndjaU1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.34pm.Seattle.2018
    BotBoy  g8nu21FnlcmU2@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.53pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m466 Dropped; 5.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Dec 28 {  4:39pm, 2018 }:29^(-7)  Xnɾκ
      Snit needs his apocalypse cult, Kool-Aid and all.

Science FICTION pays better than the REAL deal;
and you (Snit) have bought into it, big time.

You need your apocalypse cult, Kool-Aid and all,
and you're welcome to it, just don't expect me to join you.

The only thing plants love more than a greenhouse is carbon dioxide.

56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.

4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
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          HerbertGlazier  e4f21625-9d6b-43d0-b202-32d6effe77a9@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--2.27pm.Seattle.2018
      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  f98fde32-43ca-412d-ab36-15caad2c9e41@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  be1c6d96-7cee-4465-9183-ec29dc2fd9e3@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m264 Top; 2.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 28 {  4:22pm, 2018 }:42^(PST)  XnɻШ
      Do use chemicals that _ kill microbes, or ones that assist them ?

Bert:
> Shit in space can kill.

No, ISS garbage ( including shit ) burns up on reentry.

> > > Where do you dump your blackwater ?
> 
> I dump my waste into Anaheim sewer.

Cool.

Do use chemicals that _ kill microbes, or ones that assist them ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--2.34pm.Seattle.2018
            BotBoy  g8nngmFmbp6U1@mid.individual.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--3.58pm.Seattle.2018
        BotBoy  g8nrovFn73nU3@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.16pm.Seattle.2018
    BotBoy  g8nsrgFndjaU1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.34pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m456 Dropped; 6.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Dec 28 {  4:18pm, 2018 }:56^(-7)  Xnɻu
      Science FICTION ( fake news ).

Snit replied:
> > > > The only thing plants love more than a greenhouse is carbon dioxide.
> > > >
> > > > 56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
> > > > then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
> > > > we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.
> > > >
> > > > 4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
> > >
> > > Relevance ?
> > 
> > Look at the man staring back at you in the mirror;
> > he's the REAL climate denier, not me.
> 
> I do not deny science FICTION ( fake news ). 

What about the REAL science (above) ?

Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating,
-- science FICTION pays better than the REAL deal;
hence religion, Marxism and     Snit's apocalypse cult.
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q05kn0$1emo$1@gioia.aioe.org
            Wally_W│ww84wa@aim_com  demc2e9eke0niv0r5h446f8doh0a96trg7@4ax.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--2.34pm.Seattle.2018
        BotBoy  g8nngmFmbp6U1@mid.individual.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--3.58pm.Seattle.2018
    BotBoy  g8nrovFn73nU3@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--4.16pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m450 Dropped; 10.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Dec 28 {  4:  pm, 2018 }:31^(-7)  XnɸV
      The REAL climate denier.

Snit replied:
> > Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating,
> > -- science FICTION pays better than the REAL deal;
> > hence religion, Marxism and     Snit's apocalypse cult.
> 
> If you disagree with me on something by all means state what... 
> but you just post to try to feel better about yourself.

You need your apocalypse cult, Kool-Aid and all,
and you're welcome to it, just don't expect me to join you.

> > The only thing plants love more than a greenhouse is carbon dioxide.
> > 
> > 56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
> > then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
> > we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.
> > 
> > 4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
> 
> Relevance ?

Look at the man staring back at you in the mirror;
he's the REAL climate denier, not me.
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          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q05kn0$1emo$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Wally_W│ww84wa@aim_com  demc2e9eke0niv0r5h446f8doh0a96trg7@4ax.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--2.34pm.Seattle.2018
    BotBoy  g8nngmFmbp6U1@mid.individual.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--3.58pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 5  m446 Dropped; 58 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Individual.NET,  Dec 28 {  2:47pm, 2018 }:50^(-7)  Xnɫწ
      Snit's apocalypse cult.

Snit replied:
> > Apocalypse Cults are popular for a reason, people _ needed it.
> 
> People deny climate science as a part of their worship... 

Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating,
-- science FICTION pays better than the REAL deal;
hence religion, Marxism and     Snit's apocalypse cult.

■
      kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  q05kn0$1emo$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Wally_W│ww84wa@aim_com  demc2e9eke0niv0r5h446f8doh0a96trg7@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--2.34pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 2  m22 Cool; 4.8 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 28 {  9:15am, 2018 }:33^(-5)  Xnqξ
      Apocalypse Cults are popular for a reason, people _ needed it.

Wally_W:
> It can be convincingly argued that mental illness is indeed
> a chronic problem among many climate alarmists and their followers.

Apocalypse Cults are popular for a reason, people _ needed it.
■
    HerbertGlazier  e4f21625-9d6b-43d0-b202-32d6effe77a9@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--2.27pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m265 Top; 18.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 28 {  1:47pm, 2018 }:38^(PST)  Xnɡრ
      Where do you dump your blackwater ?

> How is Air Reconditioned on ISS?

Carbon dioxide is filtered out, and oxygen is added;
the oxygen dispenser caught on fire once.

You strap yourself onto the toilet and a vacuum sucks shit in;
later, it's jettisoned out, into space.

Piss is recycled into drinking water.

> Anaheim has 24hr toilets on just about every street.
> I now invented a toilet seat that can't be beat.

Where do you dump your blackwater ?

Do use chemicals that _ kill microbes, or ones that assist them ?
■
    SamWormley  74b81591-fc9d-4aff-9f1b-8646c45caf94@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--5.03pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 19  m34 Cool; 6.9 Days, GoogleG,  Dec 20 {  7:11pm, 2018 }:58^(PST)  XiVჴ
      The only thing plants love more than a greenhouse is carbon dioxide.

> The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

The only thing plants love more than a greenhouse is carbon dioxide.

56 million years ago (@PETM), the Arctic was tropical, not icy;
then and there, we primates first appeared.  3 million years later,
we were most everywhere.  22 million years later, the poles froze.

4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten.
■
      SamWormley  1f1620fb-ee62-46b8-aef4-2983f8d003dc@googlegroups.com
    jimp@specsol_spam_sux_com  gk4gff-slr.ln1@mail.specsol.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--4.35pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m62 Cool; 37.5 Minutes, tin➤Sun, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 27 {  3:42pm, 2018 }:40^(0)  Xmϝe
      Religion, Marxism and other apocalypse cults.

JimP told Sam:
> > WESTERN DROUGHT RANKS AMONG THE WORST OF THE LAST MILLENNIUM
> 
> Gee, than it is a good thing that, since the 13th century,
> humanity has invented things like wells, dams, pumps and pipe.

Apocalypse cults _ need to believe that the end is near;
otherwise, they simply can't function.

Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating,
-- science FICTION pays better than the real deal;
hence religion, Marxism and other apocalypse cults.
■
              poraty6@gmail_com  bc314371-663c-464b-9bd3-8c856cff1f43@googlegroups.com
            HerbertGlazier  1d484679-7bb8-4c06-972b-b1d90213970f@googlegroups.com
          poraty6@gmail_com  0ac64a41-7689-4d14-a153-558026401b42@googlegroups.com
        poraty6@gmail_com  9cb93e61-749d-49a2-a920-a9938b4fbad4@googlegroups.com
      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  5830b9f1-a3d9-4ca9-bf74-5cdfc875c70d@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  825dd86e-951b-49f6-adca-a90a832c549d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.27--2.23pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m261 Top; 24.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 27 {  1:49pm, 2018 }:55^(PST)  Xmσɳ
      MASS !! IS THE CREATOR OF **ALL *** FORCES !! -including gravity !!

Mass is composed of fields, not vice versa.

Truth can be crippling, and falsehoods can be liberating,
-- science FICTION pays better than the real deal;
hence religion, Marxism and other apocalypse cults.

I hold the following to be true,
yet (probably) not valuable to anyone but myself:

  "God" ( nature, evolution ) programmed us to consume "pizza";
  we're (robotic) consumers, like the sun.

  "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
  changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
  Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
■
              JohnSefton  6c9f9459-ced5-42ee-b13f-dbc3907cc126@googlegroups.com
            Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com  ptsshn$t9c$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JohnSefton  4fa792b5-80a3-4daa-925c-3e6c29e29530@googlegroups.com
        JohnSefton  c61ceb77-d733-4cf7-b60f-6b04bb598068@googlegroups.com
      Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  55de53d3-fe42-434f-a42f-ea2e2a24e7d3@PointedEars.de
    JohnSefton  2f9870ce-0648-4bab-bfb4-06f46b956697@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.25--1.22pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    -Dropped, 3.4 Weeks, GoogleG, 142.165.85.215,  Dec  1 {  2:18pm, 2018 }: 6^(PST)  XVɧ6
      (Rest) Mass is composed of fields, not the other way around.

JohnSefton
> What makes your ‘field ‘?

(Rest) Mass is composed of fields, not the other way around.

Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

  [SpaceTime] may not be thought of as endowed with
  the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
  as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
■
              BotBoy  g5pel0Fm0nU1@mid.individual.net
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  ptflg4$bqp$1@gioia.aioe.org
          Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  757056ba-279d-921f-e680-fc7d359d110b@PointedEars.de
        mixed_nuts│melopsitticus  ptfpb8$hda$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pth6j0$tb9$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Thomas_PointedEars_Lahn│  356faba4-34d6-acda-7ea6-3e88a5b4b60f@PointedEars.de
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.25--11.42am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 70  m74 Cool; 4.1 Weeks, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Cust.Swisscom.CH➤Open-News-Network.ORG,  Nov 26 {   :42pm, 2018 }:39^(1)  XRვd
      PointedEars

PointedEars proclaimed:
> Usenet Death Penalty for aioe.ORG NOW !

Sieg Heil !  Sieg Heil !  Sieg Heil !

P.S. The creators of Usenet stylized it: "USENET".
dictionary.com/browse/usenet

P.P.S. When people say "Linux" they mean: random Linux/GNU distros.
Stallman started GNU and the original licensing of these distros.

P.P.P.S. If you're having malware issues, 
your Internet license should be suspended.
■
              HerbertGlazier  fdeca787-cfd2-43bd-8709-5e78549525c9@googlegroups.com
            MrAA  bdd053f3-e879-486d-aa41-35f43a0bde8a@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  58ea2e51-e991-45f1-afa5-8b86eae88aa1@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  1844d749-f111-4924-bfee-ec400f58c465@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--11.00am.Seattle.2018
    HerbertGlazier  8dc969ba-519d-47c1-b562-7732f2824277@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--5.28pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m266 Top; 9 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 24 {  5: 4pm, 2018 }:17^(PST)  XkϸϿ
      I use two 7 gallon VittlesVaults.

Bert replied:
> > > What is the cost of an H-Bomb ?
> > 
> > It's worth billions of shit buckets, including the right to 
> > dump them in WalMart dumpsters, and the (secret) chemicals
> > needed to keep the smell down.
> 
> It's you who shits in a bucket.
> All your posts prove it.

I use two 7 gallon VittlesVaults because they keep a tight seal;
Boraxo keeps the smell down.  I dump it once every five weeks,
sealed in super thick, forty-five gallon contractor bags.

Everyone in the house knows about it, yet many of them
still visit me frequently, here in my ( good smelling ) room.

I have to clean other rooms, when people die or move out,
and I can tell you ( with 100% certainty ),
that some of them really do smell like outhouses.
■
    HerbertGlazier  f450f87f-86c6-4d45-8aba-84321769837c@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--11.34am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m265 Top; 5.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 24 { 11:18am, 2018 }:40^(PST)  XkΣe
      Bert just hates Trump, that's all.

Bert:
> People can not make a Godfather movie ever again.

"Mafia" movies are made all the time, all over the world, continually,
because people love to FANTASIZE about it... including you, Bert.

> I'm called a commie for bringing all this reality up.

You just hate Trump, that's all.
You're not a member of the apocalypse cult, I don't think.
■
            mitchrae3323@gmail_com  2932ee67-0f6c-41c8-96b2-b466f9d4304e@googlegroups.com
          sam_wormley@gmail_com  ebcd391b-bfda-4ff6-a89f-4bd00d1e0eb8@googlegroups.com
        HerbertGlazier  07dccc6d-f93f-47f9-a6ba-bf7dcb428f28@googlegroups.com
      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  5c9860bb-64ca-4776-bd62-b465c19aac7d@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  65631a93-793c-4451-b118-3b605c27aaf6@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--11.18am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 2  m264 Top; 9.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 24 { 10:57am, 2018 }:13^(PST)  XkΞΣ
      Science FICTION lovers _ love black holes.

Bert replied:
> > You reach the speed of light freefalling at a black hole.
> > For this reason alone they are disproven.
> > But there are others.
> 
> As we study the galaxies BHs become more real.
> Only brain washed low wits think not.

Einstein ( and Mitchell ) said black holes were impossible
because stars can't be accelerated to the speed of light.

Also, true black holes lack entropy.

Therefore, science FICTION lovers _ love black holes.
■
              HerbertGlazier  f2e88fc9-7446-40bb-8bc9-43d71c8b2a26@googlegroups.com
            MrAA  0a86b3ab-fc06-4f3e-a59b-78950b95b556@googlegroups.com
          HerbertGlazier  fdeca787-cfd2-43bd-8709-5e78549525c9@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  bdd053f3-e879-486d-aa41-35f43a0bde8a@googlegroups.com
      HerbertGlazier  58ea2e51-e991-45f1-afa5-8b86eae88aa1@googlegroups.com
    HerbertGlazier  1844d749-f111-4924-bfee-ec400f58c465@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--11.00am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 8  m261 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 24 {  9:20am, 2018 }:43^(PST)  Xkʭʣ
      Billions of shit buckets.

Bert asked:
> Did China Sell 5 H-Bombs to Iran?

Google is mute on the topic.

> What is the cost of an H-Bomb ?

It's worth billions of shit buckets, including the right to 
dump them in WalMart dumpsters, and the (secret) chemicals
needed to keep the smell down.
■
      sam_wormley@gmail_com  d69e8c67-d8d2-442c-adf4-45614995bc94@googlegroups.com
    jimp@specsol_spam_sux_com  3eb2ff-9ce.ln1@mail.specsol.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.24--7.44am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 15  m53 Cool; 1.9 Days, tin➤Sun, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 22 { 10:12am, 2018 }:51^(0)  Xjȴp
      Apocalypse cult members Sam Wormley, Kensi, Nadegda, Libtard...

JimP told Sam:
> Kill yourself now and avoid the apocalypse.

Apocalypse cult members Sam Wormley, Kensi, Nadegda, Libtard,
and Snit ( Michael Glasser ) need deprogramming; 
they've taken it too far.
■
    Libtard│libtard@sandernistas_  pvol6o$3us$3@news.mixmin.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--3.30pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m10 Cool; 2.4 Hours, Progressivism_1_1_42, Mixmin.NET,  Dec 23 { 10:46am, 2018 }:48  XjсЮ
      We're just robots; our "intelligence" came from "God".

Libtard:
> May 1949, New York, Einstein wrote:
> MonthlyReview.ORG/2009/05/01/Why-Socialism/

Quoting Einstein ( from the link, above ):
//  the major states of history owed their existence to conquest.

"God" ( Nature, evolution ) programmed us to consume "pizza",
to compete for it; we're consumption machines, like the sun.

//  individuals feel indifferent ( or even hostile )
//  toward the group, small or large, to which they belong.

If you want your ass wiped, ya gotta do it yourself, sorry.

//  the dependence of the individual upon society is a fact of nature 
//  which cannot be abolished -- just as in the case of ants and bees.

Recently, mankind has evolved into AntLike colonies;
the similarities are astounding !

//  mankind [is] a planetary community of production and consumption.

"God" programmed us consume "pizza", similar to the sun.
We're just robots; our "intelligence" came from God.

//  Technological progress frequently results in more unemployment,
//  rather than in an easing of the burden of work for all.

We're in a temporary set back, similar to 1930-1945,
as technology and globalization displaces workers.

//  A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
//  the complete enslavement of the individual.

Amen, we've yet to see one that doesn't enslave us,
reducing us to mere cogs in a massively corrupt, suicide machine.
Blue-eyed Norway, in the frozen North, is the sole exception.

//  How can the rights of the individual be protected and, therewith,
//  a democratic counterweight to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?

Bottom line:  Einstein can't answer this, his own question.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--8.05pm.Seattle.2018
            Owl  z0xb803ga.gh3@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--10.02pm.Seattle.2018
        Owl  zxc0b903ta.a3u@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--11.14pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  8g9a0z0b3.gah3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--1.47pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 11  m102 Top; 7.9 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 23 {  5:18am, 2018 }: 6  Xjϻ6
      Promoting "HopTo.ORG".

Owl replied:
> > > scp  LOL! 
> > 
> > "imgur.com"  LOL !
> 
> owlcola.hopto.org/blah.png

Better, "Owl.Me/Thanks.PNG",
but you're promoting "HopTo.ORG".
■
              Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvmo9h$3ld$2@dont-email.me
            Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvmobj$3ld$3@dont-email.me
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--7.45pm.Seattle.2018
        Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvn4ho$m7c$2@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--9.41pm.Seattle.2018
    Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvnb2c$e22$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.23--1.38pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m32 Cool; 14.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 22 { 10:47pm, 2018 }:40^(-8)  XjΜტ
      Don't get banished to the "woods" (jail).

Chris M. Thomasson asked:
> Is one being charged to observe a sunset while in the "sticks"?

Yes, because that's time you could've SPENT eating pizza,
or earning "money", to pay your "taxes", 
so you don't get banished to the "woods" (jail).

Thank you for SPENDING time with me.
■
    JohnGohde  3f806e9c-8950-4b75-b9ed-c8f7c397e239@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m134 Top; 23 Minutes, GoogleG, 96.228.38.219,  Dec 22 {  9:44pm, 2018 }:29^(PST)  XjΒʕ
      Do you speak German and/or Ukrainian ?

> Alma Deutscher's opera "Cinderella", performed in German. 

Do you speak German and/or Ukrainian ?
■
              BotBoy  g7tdadFta1U2@mid.individual.net
            Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.368347d261fba47c62c@news.eternal-september.org
          BotBoy  g7tmmoF2q1nU1@mid.individual.net
        %│persent@gmail_com  br8uf1.1ab.19.5@news.alt.net
      BotBoy  g7tnk5F30esU1@mid.individual.net
    Klaus_Schadenfreude│  47aj1ep45kri0275qr2hlca818k02oboud@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.07pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m82 Cool; 4.2 Days, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 18 {  6:12pm, 2018 }: 3^(-8)  XgД3
      To each his own.

> > > you get so emotional
> > 
> > NO I DON'T YOU SCUM SUCKING PEAHEAD! AAAAAAAAAARG!
> 
> Snit's anger takes total control over him.  Again.

Some people like MukBang videos, others prefer communism;
to each his own.
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              .  9ac78bef-0410-43fe-a228-be07874be9ec@googlegroups.com
            .  ppsTD.488667$gPr.268395@fx08.am4
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.34am.Seattle.2018
        MichaelMoroney  pvn09v$bln$4@pcls7.std.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--7.54pm.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  pvn4cs$nfj$3@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--9.54pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m160 Dropped; 47.8 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Dec 22 {  8:53pm, 2018 }:48  Xjʨც
      No fifth dimension.

Michael replied:
> > > > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
> > > > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> > > > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> > > 
> > No fifth dimension.  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
> 
> Your claim makes no sense. 
> Static/changeless but not with respect to anything.  Meaningless.

Suppose there were two temporal dimensions dimensions, instead of one.
Then space-time would not be static.

Science fiction lovers like to imagine eleven dimensions,
and there are far more of them than "Einsteins";
otherwise there'd be nothing special about Einstein ( and me ).

Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

  [SpaceTime] may not be thought of as endowed with
  the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
  as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
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              BranimirMaksimovic  ppsTD.488667$gPr.268395@fx08.am4
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.34am.Seattle.2018
          Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvmo9h$3ld$2@dont-email.me
        Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvmobj$3ld$3@dont-email.me
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--7.45pm.Seattle.2018
    Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvn4ho$m7c$2@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--9.41pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m31 Cool; 35.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 22 {  8:56pm, 2018 }:24^(-8)  Xjʩʐ
      We value society.

Chris M. Thomasson asked:
> > > Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive ?
> 
> I am talking about being charged for being.
> Are you being charged right now ?

One can live without money ( in jail, or in the sticks ),
but it's not the preferred way to go.
We value society, so we follow the rules and pay taxes.
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              .  61de4fb6-33ff-4bd0-baeb-26e708f3e981@googlegroups.com
            .  6jcTD.79445$ck7.31030@fx02.am4
          .  9ac78bef-0410-43fe-a228-be07874be9ec@googlegroups.com
        .  ppsTD.488667$gPr.268395@fx08.am4
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.34am.Seattle.2018
    MichaelMoroney  pvn09v$bln$4@pcls7.std.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--7.54pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m157 Dropped; 2.7 Minutes, nn, TheWorld.COM,  Dec 22 {  7:43pm, 2018 }:59  Xjʝɷ
      "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."

Michael replied:
> > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
> > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 
> Static/changeless with respect to what ?  What is this additional dimension
> in which "spacetime" is static ?  What is the manifestation of this new
> fifth dimension in our universe ?

No fifth dimension, sorry.
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              BranimirMaksimovic  6jcTD.79445$ck7.31030@fx02.am4
            SteveCarroll  9ac78bef-0410-43fe-a228-be07874be9ec@googlegroups.com
          BranimirMaksimovic  ppsTD.488667$gPr.268395@fx08.am4
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.34am.Seattle.2018
      Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvmo9h$3ld$2@dont-email.me
    Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_  pvmobj$3ld$3@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--7.45pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m30 Cool; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 22 {  5:28pm, 2018 }:18^(-8)  XjʆА
      "Time is money" and "Buy some time".

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > Why do you need money to buy time ?
> 
> Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive ?

"Time is money" and "Buy some time" are well-known colloquialisms.
Do you know what a "timeshare" is ?
How about "doing time" or "I paid my time" ?
Have you ever rented a hotel for a night, a week, or a month ?
How much did it cost ?
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              SteveCarroll  150e30e6-e942-480c-87eb-2e538f269c43@googlegroups.com
            BranimirMaksimovic  XOtTD.24441$dd4.18620@fx37.am4
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.57am.Seattle.2018
        BranimirMaksimovic  lywTD.53045$RW.5384@fx16.am4
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--0.09pm.Seattle.2018
    BranimirMaksimovic  e6xTD.43186$MQ3.14521@fx06.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--3.58pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m63 Top; 52.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Dec 22 {   :26pm, 2018 }:50  Xjɔʪ
      Oracle's 9$ billion lawsuit is heading to the US Supreme Court.

Branimir replied:
> > Android, with its TouchScreen interface ( written in Java ),
> > has 2+ billion active users and 3.3 million apps, 
> > -- the largest installed base of any operating system.
> 
> Doesn't matter; see: Oracle's new (2019) Java licensing

Google doesn't have to upgrade, so it doesn't matter.
Oracle's 9$ billion lawsuit is heading to the US Supreme Court;
you and I will both be dead long before it's resolved.
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              SteveCarroll  9c607ac6-cf90-4bf1-abf4-c70347e88b86@googlegroups.com
            BranimirMaksimovic  WttTD.23569$Y03.16206@fx24.am4
          SteveCarroll  150e30e6-e942-480c-87eb-2e538f269c43@googlegroups.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  XOtTD.24441$dd4.18620@fx37.am4
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.57am.Seattle.2018
    BranimirMaksimovic  lywTD.53045$RW.5384@fx16.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--0.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m62 Top; 8.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Dec 22 { 11:48am, 2018 }:33  XjɌX
      Android, with its touchscreen interface ( written in Java )...

Branimir replied:
> > Usenet, unix and C will be around long after 
> > lesser fads ( like Facebook and Java ) have died off.
> 
> Java is already dead.

Android, with its TouchScreen interface ( written in Java ),
has 2+ billion active users and 3.3 million apps, 
-- the largest installed base of any operating system.
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              .  fa778d54-db2f-45de-8593-4a0a1ad7e70d@googlegroups.com
            .  9c607ac6-cf90-4bf1-abf4-c70347e88b86@googlegroups.com
          .  WttTD.23569$Y03.16206@fx24.am4
        .  150e30e6-e942-480c-87eb-2e538f269c43@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--11.16am.Seattle.2018
    %│persent@gmail_com  briojm.a66.17.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--11.49am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╳ 1  m335 Dropped; 19.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Dec 22 { 11:24am, 2018 }:59^(-7)  Xjɀx
      Why wipe your ass when someone else could do it for you ?

> Why work if you can be on welfare ?

Why wipe your ass when someone else could do it for you ?
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              SteveCarroll  aacfa5bc-696a-4c9c-8e1a-4922236e8b37@googlegroups.com
            FabianRussell  pvlo6j02c88@news4.newsguy.com
          SteveCarroll  cfb464f6-ad2a-46eb-91a2-7a85239c1972@googlegroups.com
        FabianRussell  pvlouk01hfd@news2.newsguy.com
      BranimirMaksimovic  5RtTD.24443$dd4.12231@fx37.am4
    SteveCarroll  d8b767a3-a617-40a3-9ca5-e2d6615bd794@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--11.36am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 3  m151 Cool; 53.5 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 22 {  9: 4am, 2018 }:54^(PST)  Xjoд
      Fabian thinks he's more manly than Jeff Bezos.

Steve wrote:
> in Feeb's mind, if you write 'that Javash*t' for $$ (or anything 
> to do with the web, really) you're a sellout, clueless or you're an 
> unREAL MAN, etc.

Fabian thinks he's more manly than Jeff Bezos.
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              FabianRussell  8043ac2e-c7cd-493f-bd21-615f4003f463@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  d209a528-e5c2-4a9b-8994-3c0785f8e338@googlegroups.com
          FabianRussell  fa778d54-db2f-45de-8593-4a0a1ad7e70d@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  9c607ac6-cf90-4bf1-abf4-c70347e88b86@googlegroups.com
      BranimirMaksimovic  WttTD.23569$Y03.16206@fx24.am4
    SteveCarroll  150e30e6-e942-480c-87eb-2e538f269c43@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--11.16am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers
    ╱ 9  m151 Cool; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG,  Dec 22 {  8:22am, 2018 }:28^(PST)  XjhК
      Usenet servers.

Steve asked:
> why would I pay for Usenet when I can do it for nothing ?

Unless you enjoy -Random- lags ( when will the post show up ? ),
Do NOT use a binary server to read Usenet.
For that, use INN servers; to wit:
  
  News5.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
  News2.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
  News6.Open-News-Network.ORG:119
          News.Individual.NET:119
  
  "Individual.NET" is 10 Euros per year.
  "OpenNews" is cost free ( News5, News2 and News6 are best ).
  Register at:  Open-News-Network.ORG/register
                Must translate from German; if Captcha fails, F5 refresh.
  
Do NOT post using an INN server, they'll ban you !
For that, use a binary server; to wit:
  
  News.US.Usenet-News.NET:119  or  usNews.BlockNews.NET:119 
  
  They won't censor you; they don't even keep the "Path:" line,
  so you can't be identified.  Their archive is over 15 years deep.
  $5 buys you 11 gigs, enough for several life times.
  If one is down ( -very- unlikely ), use the other one.
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              SteveCarroll  d209a528-e5c2-4a9b-8994-3c0785f8e338@googlegroups.com
            FabianRussell  fa778d54-db2f-45de-8593-4a0a1ad7e70d@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  9c607ac6-cf90-4bf1-abf4-c70347e88b86@googlegroups.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  WttTD.23569$Y03.16206@fx24.am4
      SteveCarroll  150e30e6-e942-480c-87eb-2e538f269c43@googlegroups.com
    BranimirMaksimovic  XOtTD.24441$dd4.18620@fx37.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.57am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 8  m59 Top; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Dec 22 {  8:41am, 2018 }:27  Xjkვ
      Lesser Fads ( like Facebook and Java ).

Branimir:
> Youth aren't comming to Usenet; sadly, it'll die with us.

Usenet, unix and C will be around long after 
lesser fads ( like Facebook and Java ) have died off.
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              SteveCarroll  pvj0gr$7qb$1@dont-email.me
            FabianRussell  07ef86a2-5c04-4863-b8f4-c361baf1adc4@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  61de4fb6-33ff-4bd0-baeb-26e708f3e981@googlegroups.com
        BranimirMaksimovic  6jcTD.79445$ck7.31030@fx02.am4
      SteveCarroll  9ac78bef-0410-43fe-a228-be07874be9ec@googlegroups.com
    BranimirMaksimovic  ppsTD.488667$gPr.268395@fx08.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.22--10.34am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 16  m59 Top; 2.9 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Dec 22 {  7: 5am, 2018 }:57  XjUჳ
      "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable.

Branimir replied:
> > Time has no value in your mind ?
> 
> Nope, because it doesn't exist.

Time = Money = Fuel

I ran out of  Time  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Fuel.
I ran out of  Money because I didn't have  Fuel  to buy more  Time.
I ran out of  Fuel  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Time.

"God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
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              BranimirMaksimovic  d_dTD.90003$krL1.70946@fx15.am4
            Owl  zz0b8803ga.ah43tq@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--8.05pm.Seattle.2018
        Owl  z0xb803ga.gh3@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--10.02pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  zxc0b903ta.a3u@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--11.14pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m101 Top; 12.7 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 21 { 10:54pm, 2018 }:33  XiуX
      "imgur.com"  LOL !

Owl replied:
> > Don't worry your pretty little head, Owl,
> > just stick to your knitting.  Someday, when you get a server,
> 
> When I get a server.  heh.  I'm touching one as I type.

Better give him a big tip, then !

> > you too could use sCp, instead of "imgur.com".
> 
> scp  LOL! 

"imgur.com"  LOL !
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              SteveCarroll  ee0243d3-fd11-45e9-b9b5-d01a8fd23126@googlegroups.com
            AndrzejMatuch  %GdTD.18588$ec.1939@fx26.iad
          BranimirMaksimovic  d_dTD.90003$krL1.70946@fx15.am4
        Owl  zz0b8803ga.ah43tq@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--8.05pm.Seattle.2018
    Owl  z0xb803ga.gh3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--10.02pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m100 Top; 30 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 21 {  9:15pm, 2018 }:13  XiвΣ
      Stick to your knitting, Owl.

Owl asked:
> > > Why would anyone believe that man walked on the moon ?
> > > "Apollo Moon Hoax"
> 
> What's the deal with those guys being yanked around by wires ?
> Looks pretty fake to me.

Don't worry your pretty little head, Owl,
just stick to your knitting.  Someday, when you get a server,
you too could use sCp, instead of "imgur.com".
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              AndrzejMatuch  Z%7TD.80872$le.70343@fx14.iad
            FabianRussell  dbcf7d2d-5d9f-48b2-9ab7-f6460f7042cc@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  ee0243d3-fd11-45e9-b9b5-d01a8fd23126@googlegroups.com
        AndrzejMatuch  %GdTD.18588$ec.1939@fx26.iad
      BranimirMaksimovic  d_dTD.90003$krL1.70946@fx15.am4
    Owl  zz0b8803ga.ah43tq@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--8.05pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m98 Top; 1.4 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 21 {  4:47pm, 2018 }:54  Xiϵჰ
      You don't need to know, Owl.

Owl asked:
> Why would anyone believe that man walked on the moon ?
> "Apollo Moon Hoax"

If all you do is grow potatoes, or if you are a potato,
you don't need to know if someone walked on the moon or not.
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              FabianRussell  07ef86a2-5c04-4863-b8f4-c361baf1adc4@googlegroups.com
            Owl  s0z80b80a.38a0@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--9.46am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  f90sf8b0qba.3gn@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--11.01am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  sz9b08930ta.ah3@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--7.58pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 4  m98 Top; 1.6 Hours, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 21 {  4:31pm, 2018 }:15  XiϳɁ
      I'm a "genius" ( compared to you ) because I use "WinSCP.EXE".

Owl asked me:
> Why is your genius self relying on LunarPages hosting service and not
> running your own server locally?  Is Winders 10 not up to the task? 

I'm a "genius" ( compared to you ) because I use "WinSCP.EXE"
instead of uploading to "imgur.com".

LunarPages ( unlimited email/hosting, no data caps or bandwidth slowdowns )
costs me 3$ per month and it's more reliable than my home PC;
my servers are paid up five years in advance.
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              FabianRussell  07ef86a2-5c04-4863-b8f4-c361baf1adc4@googlegroups.com
            Owl  s0z80b80a.38a0@rooftop.invalid
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--9.46am.Seattle.2018
        Owl  f90sf8b0qba.3gn@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--11.01am.Seattle.2018
    BenJacoby  pvjmjt$1n4b$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--4.40pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m25 Dropped; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 21 {  1:40pm, 2018 }:15^(-5)  XiρϽ
      I don't even like your _ style of fiction, Ben.

Ben told me:
> you have the likes of Nads and "kensi" listed in your "cool cat" list
> and I'm nowhere to be found. I thought more of you than this!

I don't respect you (Ben) because you think I'm a BasementDwelling commie,
despite all evidence to the contrary; you're clueless.

Also, I can't stand your AntiScience, pro fiction, stance;
what's more, I don't even like your _ style of fiction.

Nads and "kensi" are a never-ending source of entertainment 
because they're communist cult cheerleaders.
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              FabianRussell  7d31afdf-fee4-420f-970f-6cbdd6628811@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  pvj0gr$7qb$1@dont-email.me
          FabianRussell  07ef86a2-5c04-4863-b8f4-c361baf1adc4@googlegroups.com
        Owl  s0z80b80a.38a0@rooftop.invalid
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--9.46am.Seattle.2018
    Owl  f90sf8b0qba.3gn@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--11.01am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, News.Software.Readers
    ╱ 2  m94 Top; 6.4 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 21 { 10:15am, 2018 }:54  XiΗϚ
      "imgur.com" is for _ ordinary people, not geniuses.

Re: The wrong way to post a pic, Owl wrote:
> If you can't figure out how to link directly to an image on postimage.cc
> or imgur.com, then you're a moron, 
> because even ordinary people are able to accomplish it.

"imgur.com" is for _ ordinary people, not geniuses.

Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/GDP.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/America.at.Night.7k.Satellite.JPG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Glyph.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Mario.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Chess.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/DisabilityAdjustedLifeYears.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/VoIP.MS.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.1970.2014.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Urethral.Opening.JPG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSubs.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YoYos.JPG
Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchPlugins.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComments.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeSearch.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTube.COM.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeChannel.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeNotices.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Google.PNG
Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG
Jeff-Relf.Me/Statue.of.David.JPG
Jeff-Relf.Me/North.Pacific.Currents.PNG
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          FabianRussell  7d31afdf-fee4-420f-970f-6cbdd6628811@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  pvj0gr$7qb$1@dont-email.me
      FabianRussell  07ef86a2-5c04-4863-b8f4-c361baf1adc4@googlegroups.com
    Owl  s0z80b80a.38a0@rooftop.invalid
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--9.46am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m93 Top; 56.6 Minutes, BadRig, Alt.NET, Boom.Rooftop,  Dec 21 {  8:40am, 2018 }:49  XiʦЯ
      Geniuses post links to their servers.

Re: The wrong way to post a video, Owl wrote:
> Only if you're a moron and can't figure out how to post a direct link.

Geniuses post links to their servers;
those who do otherwise are just "ordinary" not "morons".
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      FabianRussell  pvh85h02lk5@news1.newsguy.com
    Hadron_Quark│hadronquark@gmail_  87efab6u63.fsf@gmail.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--9.30am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, News.Software.Readers, Comp.Lang.C++
    ╱ 1  m17 Cool; 5.9 Hours, Emacs➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 21 {  2:39am, 2018 }:  ^(1)  XiɪΕ
      Longest Common Subsequence Example.

Hadron Quark:
> ALl the best diff tools exist on windows too;
> many of the better ones are ONLY on Windows.
> But you knew that; or should've known.

"diff" is a VERY SIMPLE algorithm ( WinMerge uses it );
Google "Longest Common Subsequence Example".

It's recursive, but you don't program it that way,
to avoid stack overflows ( and slowness );
instead, you create a lookup table.

Mine looks like this ( red for old, green for new ):
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG

I keep copies of my source code going back to August 2007.
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      FabianRussell  pvhcjm02n8n@news1.newsguy.com
    Hadron_Quark│hadronquark@gmail_  87imzn6u8s.fsf@gmail.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--9.01am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 2  m17 Cool; 6 Hours, Emacs➤Linux, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 21 {  2:37am, 2018 }:23^(1)  Xiɪɓ
      Google is the best calculator.

> > The Ultimate of Ultimate Calculators

Google is the best calculator.
Google "USD in Yuan" -> 6.91 Chinese Yuan
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      FabianRussell  7d31afdf-fee4-420f-970f-6cbdd6628811@googlegroups.com
    SteveCarroll  pvj0gr$7qb$1@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--8.49am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 4  m151 Cool; 1.2 Hours, UnisonMacBin, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 21 {  7:23am, 2018 }: 7^(-7)  Xiʙс
      Fabian wants his videos to autoplay, so we have to watch them.

Fabian wants his videos to autoplay, so we have to watch them;
he's afraid we wouldn't click on his link.

This is why TV is so valuable, and why the Internet is so disrupting.
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    FabianRussell  7d31afdf-fee4-420f-970f-6cbdd6628811@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.21--8.25am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    -Dropped, 2.5 Hours, GoogleG,  Dec 21 {  5:39am, 2018 }: 9^(PST)  XiʈΞ
      Google Groups Rejects In-Line Binary

> It is perfectly possible to post binary files, both as in-line
> or as attachments, to a text newsgroup such as c.o.l.a. 
> but Google Groups rejects such posts.

<A hRef='https://comps.canstockphoto.ie/shit-happens-with-pictogram-eps-vectors_csp43580830.jpg'>Shit Happens</A>
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              Klaus_Schadenfreude│  o4an1eh27cms55qu73qmta559kuekqq7js@4ax.com
            AndrzejMatuch  m5PSD.44051$zh6.12275@fx06.iad
          Klaus_Schadenfreude│  0mfo1edsqvt5sl3d5tffdgparuqcpd4dpo@4ax.com
        BotBoy  g82tglF73nkU1@mid.individual.net
      Klaus_Schadenfreude│  8fgo1el4m5tc7dc29874s6ugfol0h5hlc0@4ax.com
    Sir_Gaygorys_Owners_Owner_🐶笛│  csudnbfyzZT92IHBnZ2dnUU7-QXNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.20--7.15pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 1  m45 Cool; 51.6 Minutes, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM,  Dec 20 {  5:44pm, 2018 }:  ^(-6)  XiHɸ
      A fat spliff and a bag of chips.

Greg's slave told us:
> the internet has given "the working poor" the "notion" that 
> they do not have control of the means of production,
> but very easily could.  very soon.   HTH

Does that happen before or after they NetflixAndChill
with a fat spliff and a bag of chips ?
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--7.58am.Seattle.2018
            AndrzejMatuch  tK9SD.20420$lx7.17889@fx44.iad
          BotBoy  g7so8gFqsqbU1@mid.individual.net
        Klaus_Schadenfreude│  o4an1eh27cms55qu73qmta559kuekqq7js@4ax.com
      AndrzejMatuch  m5PSD.44051$zh6.12275@fx06.iad
    Sir_Gaygorys_Owners_Owner_🐶笛│  7qednbfkCIITVIbBnZ2dnUU78XfNnZ2d@giganews.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.20--6.54pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╳ 2  m45 Cool; 9.7 Hours, 2550_25!_LOL!_https:∥www_, Giganews.COM,  Dec 20 {  8:55am, 2018 }:42^(-6)  XhЯɦ
      Joseph Smith.

Greg's slave told us:
> yOU need to read some mARX and eNGLES.

You need to read some Joseph Smith.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.20--4.23pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      My Mouse/Keyboard Layout.

My Mouse/Keyboard Layout:
  Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG

"Hot Virtual Keyboard 9.0", 30$, 
is superior to Windows' "Touch Keyboard".

It's difficult to customize as there's only 255 "scan codes",
many of which are mysteriously "reserved", and/or look odd
when the shift key is down.

gShift RightClick toggles the keyboard on/off.
The microphone icon toggles "speech to text" on/off.
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              Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pun3vi$1l6d$3@gioia.aioe.org
            HerbertGlazier  5fc4dd66-4313-4918-8e61-cf4c08c0eef5@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--1.43pm.Seattle.2018
        HerbertGlazier  4992742d-39eb-4435-bed9-15715e18dad2@googlegroups.com
      BenJacoby  pvdu0j$lmh$2@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  5981628c-e6ac-4e2f-880c-841d9b822b90@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.19--11.48am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m258 Top; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 19 { 10: 5am, 2018 }:45^(PST)  Xhyყ
      Bumming WiFi, and toilets.

Bert wrote:
> Living in my van is better than a house.

Sure, if you don't mind the police, the heat, and the traffic.
Bumming WiFi, and toilets, is hard on the psyche.
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    BranimirMaksimovic  EpeSD.33448$9q81.15211@fx12.am4
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m22 Top; 7.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET,  Dec 18 {  2:21pm, 2018 }:24  Xgψε
      I do not want a keyboard, nor a trackpad.

> Perfect laptop for Linux geeks: pine64.org/?page_id=3707

I do not want a keyboard, nor a trackpad.
I do want an ArmMounted monitor and a g600 mouse.
Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
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        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pvaknj$1cu3$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Checkmate│oshay_shad@yahoo_  MPG.3682f58d8653e414995b6b@news.altopia.com
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pvboce$gh0$17@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.25pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 4  m210 Top; 37 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 18 {  1:21pm, 2018 }:19  XgξΩ
      Technology and Globalization displaces workers.

Nadegda replied:
> > We're about to dive into another recession,
> 
> And whose fault is that?

It's a temporary set back, similar to 1930-1945,
as technology and globalization displaces workers.
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              Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pujvbq$87k$12@dont-email.me
            Scout│me4guns@removethis_this2_  pun3jd$t71$16@dont-email.me
          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  puopdf$17dt$2@gioia.aioe.org
        BenJacoby  pupg5t$oep$1@gioia.aioe.org
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pvb8co$brc$1@gioia.aioe.org
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pvbllv$gh0$5@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--2.15pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 7  m210 Top; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 18 {   :35pm, 2018 }:11  Xgζх
      Nadegda's BlueEyed socialism.

Nadegda replied:
> > Socialist Governments are led by strong arm dictators
> 
> Erna Solberg is a "strong arm dictator"?  In what universe?

What makes you think your BlueEyed socialism, in the frozen North,
would work anywhere else ?

More likely, your Marxist cult would blow up in flames, like JonesTown.
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            HerbertGlazier  f7701c75-02a3-4f1a-a1c9-31974e5bf5f2@googlegroups.com
          BenJacoby  puih5c$9pn$3@gioia.aioe.org
        HerbertGlazier  4e289d14-a24b-49d7-a0a6-df261fa3d0d9@googlegroups.com
      Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pun3vi$1l6d$3@gioia.aioe.org
    HerbertGlazier  5fc4dd66-4313-4918-8e61-cf4c08c0eef5@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--1.43pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 20  m261 Top; 4.1 Days, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5,  Dec 14 { 10:29am, 2018 }:32^(PST)  Xdоლ
      What chemicals are you using ( to reduce the smell ) ?

Bert wrote:
> I have invented a head for my van; costs less than $5.

What chemicals are you using ( to reduce the smell ) ?

Where are you dumping it ?
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pugrl3$1gkm$2@gioia.aioe.org
            Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  1mtn0eprkomjq9abbo9852i8thgbcaplsc@4ax.com
          kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pugusp$1ngh$1@gioia.aioe.org
        Just_Wondering│JW@me_com  DtXOD.233079$sH2.207161@fx25.iad
      Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  puhkq7$87k$2@dont-email.me
    Scout│me4guns@removethis_this2_  pun3je$t71$18@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--7.58am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    -Dropped, 1.1 Weeks, Live_Mail➤Windows, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 10 {  4:33pm, 2018 }:57^(-5)  Xbɽϝ
      In North America, the good life is just handed to you on a platter.

Scout:
> In North America, "the working poor" makes more in a single hour 
> than 50% of the planet does in a day.
> 
> Factor in food stamps, Medicaid, Housing assistance, SSI, etc
> and your 'working poor' becomes one of the 7% of people with 
> the greatest income on the planet.

Amen.  And North American food and water don't make you sick.
The Chinese Communist cult would never, could never, be so generous.
In North America, the good life is just handed to you on a platter.

> "Workers" only seem 'poor' in relation to the people around them. 
> Like a Millionaire surrounded by Billionaires.

In the Marxist cult, everyone is equally impoverished.
They would steal from the rich, but there isn't enough of them,
so they steal from the poor, taking their food and blankets.

And the cult isn't proficient enough, nor honest enough,
to properly run a petroleum company. 
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.36772dec32fead89504@news.eternal-september.org
            Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pujvbq$87k$12@dont-email.me
          Scout│me4guns@removethis_this2_  pun3jd$t71$16@dont-email.me
        kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  puopdf$17dt$2@gioia.aioe.org
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  0arv0elc6r3hpq4s9fhacln4bpii7haufu@4ax.com
    Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  puphrr$l2v$11@dont-email.me
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--7.31am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns
    ╱ 25  m203 Top; 6.6 Days, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG,  Dec 11 {  3:39pm, 2018 }:40  Xbჲυ
      The final solution.

Nadegda:
> the Soviet model ( currently employed in North Korea ) ...

....is a sadistic cult.

> the Nordic social democracies seem to have done well with 
> far less inegalitarian results than we see in America.

Congratulations, Hitler, you stumbled upon the final solution.
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              FabianRussell  pv7rsr01ipf@news2.newsguy.com
            MrDFS  YENRD.15337$IR7.6715@fx40.iad
          FabianRussell  c5da0c4d-b582-4e55-b8a3-ffa07e69f6f7@googlegroups.com
        SteveCarroll  00a8c1a1-9806-4755-8fba-81809c78d9c7@googlegroups.com
      FabianRussell  f6ce0f40-3857-44b0-8488-5f8159483d3d@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  b538064e-3c3e-4071-9b11-560759ee53af@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.18--4.19am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 1  m46 Top; 7.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 71.251.40.150,  Dec 18 {  4: 1am, 2018 }:16^(PST)  XgɸɄ
      Halloween Docs Daily Quote

In the workplace, on the desktop, Windows is the standard.

In mom's basement, Peter Pan flutters from distro to distro. 

On stage, it's the iPhone.
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              SteveCarroll  a2d6da4c-bf2a-4fc3-9d95-4508a56f48bc@googlegroups.com
            HughHuntzinger  d990083d-61ff-47cd-872b-9f4afdffa730@googlegroups.com
          SteveCarroll  4f189b40-def4-44cd-993a-54096676d3ac@googlegroups.com
        HughHuntzinger  5c215a7e-a0cd-427c-902f-2462c25060da@googlegroups.com
      SteveCarroll  e6f10b30-cc10-431d-981f-fc9e9a21427b@googlegroups.com
    HughHuntzinger  8597f341-b82d-431f-b797-f881ded7ad4e@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--6.36pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m45 Top; 3.3 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Dec 14 { 10: 2am, 2018 }:31^(PST)  Xdкʗ
      Marxism is a sadistic cult.

> " Crime rates and inequality are positively correlated within 
>   countries and, particularly, between countries, and this 
>   correlation reflects causation from inequality to crime rates, 
>   even after controlling for other crime determinants. " 

Marxism is a sadistic cult.

The wealth and wisdom of a nation is reflected
in its birth rate -- from Singapore (.83/woman) and Macau, 
at the top, to N_iger (6.49/woman) and Angola at the bottom.
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.1970.2014.PNG
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              .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.35pm.Seattle.2018
            .  8538c360-cb09-4bbe-a385-8e94a1101135@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--5.09pm.Seattle.2018
        Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  nukc1e95ku65ndien2scv98m9dnvmk08uv@4ax.com
      AndrzejMatuch  11ORD.38328$J8.34439@fx37.iad
    SteveCarroll  054c6d9f-22ef-497c-8404-9732e2c8fd2f@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--8.37am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Soc.Men
    ╱ 5  m174 Mad; 23.8 Minutes, GoogleG,  Dec 17 {  6:46am, 2018 }: 5^(PST)  XfЙϳ
      "Love" is a euphemism for "money".

Steve replied:
> Regarding women... it's one thing to swear off commitment in 
> later decades, another to do it in your early 20s, which is what 
> a lot of these young guys are doing with MGTOW and the like. 
> Weird.

At age 28, 1988, Provo Utah, 
I lost my faith in "waman" ( bitch lasagna, pussy );
at the time, I was worried that others were too naive.

I'm around young men constantly, 18+ years old.
One of my tenants is a 27 year old (butch) woman.

So I can tell you, with 100% certainty,
that I needn't have worried -- unlike me, then, they know already.

Suppose you're rich and famous, 
and able to "date" anyone you want,
like John Mayer, dating Taylor Swift. 

Now, suppose you were also HyperNaive, dumb enough to have kids.
You got a custody battle coming, and lots of child support due.

"Love" is a euphemism for "money".

The wealth and wisdom of a nation is reflected
in its birth rate -- from Singapore (.83/woman) and Macau, 
at the top, to Niger (6.49/woman) and Angola at the bottom.
  Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.1970.2014.PNG
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              .  fbe2a241-01a4-4169-86f2-7d263ec247bf@googlegroups.com
            .  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.35pm.Seattle.2018
          .  8538c360-cb09-4bbe-a385-8e94a1101135@googlegroups.com
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--5.09pm.Seattle.2018
      Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  nukc1e95ku65ndien2scv98m9dnvmk08uv@4ax.com
    AndrzejMatuch  11ORD.38328$J8.34439@fx37.iad
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.17--7.37am.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 10  m122 Cool; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET,  Dec 17 {  6: 3am, 2018 }:42^(-5)  XfВχ
      Bitch Lasagna

Andrzej said I think:
> waman aren't worth it; masturbation is more satisfying

Not everyone needs to "piss" into a golden toilet;
and that's what (some) "waman"[*] are: golden toilets.
[ *:  ]

> there is no need to work when there are millions out there
> willing to do it and pay for your laziness through taxes.

I manage a 32 unit rooming house and I program for "The Bankers";
my accuser, Greg, is unemployed and banished to the high mountains.

> Jeff has outsmarted us all.

The dollar is a casino chip; the house always wins.
There are other casinos, better games.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--7.53pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      The dollar is a casino chip; the house always wins.

The dollar is a casino chip; the house always wins.
There are other casinos, better games.
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--5.19am.Seattle.2018
    HerbertGlazier  9f5214a8-8d09-4784-8b74-4796491bc89d@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--3.07pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 140  m277 Top; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 172.249.156.65,  Dec 16 {  1: 2pm, 2018 }:46^(PST)  Xfɚʦ
      Both primal and fleeting, happiness is an empty bladder.

> > Both primal and fleeting, happiness is an empty bladder.
> 
> Sounds like you are using a catheter? 

No catheter.
It feels good to pee, that's all.
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              .  6a1a1e1nhbalid9dkvfl5r228pbu8csa8k@4ax.com
            MrAA  fbe2a241-01a4-4169-86f2-7d263ec247bf@googlegroups.com
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.35pm.Seattle.2018
        MrAA  8538c360-cb09-4bbe-a385-8e94a1101135@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--5.09pm.Seattle.2018
    Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall  nukc1e95ku65ndien2scv98m9dnvmk08uv@4ax.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.16--2.26pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    +-, 8.8 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET,  Dec 16 {  5:34am, 2018 }: 2^(-5)  XfFϰ
      Are you talking to me or yourself ?

Greg replied:
> Fucking freeloader!   GET A JOB!   

Are you talking to me or yourself, you unemployed hypocrite ?
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          .  6a1a1e1nhbalid9dkvfl5r228pbu8csa8k@4ax.com
        MrAA  fbe2a241-01a4-4169-86f2-7d263ec247bf@googlegroups.com
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.35pm.Seattle.2018
    MrAA  8538c360-cb09-4bbe-a385-8e94a1101135@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--5.09pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m84 Top; 44.5 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.50.8,  Dec 15 {  2:31pm, 2018 }:57^(PST)  Xeϐɵ
      The CCP (China) would never be so generous.

MrAA replied:
> > You've eaten a lot of pizzas in your lifetime.
> > How many more do you want ?
> 
> I wish I could afford them.  
> Poverty has kept me on simple, healthful foods.

Currently, I have no income; no cash coming in, zero.
I spend about 200$ a month on my housemates.
My "Food Stamps" (SNAP) are $192 per month.

2006, I used to buy 1$ frozen pizzas at Safeway.
Today, they're on sale for 1$, as they often are.

I make burritos with meat, cheese, and those 1.25$ bags
of salad mix -- all told, I spend about 160$ a month on food;
and I eat very, very well... plenty of meat, fruit and veg.

Mayonnaise and Ketchup, mixed together, make a great salad dressing.
Add shredded cheese and fake crab to the salad mix -- delicious.

The CCP (China) would never be so generous;
their food&water aren't even safe.
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          HerbertGlazier  84a85ab0-d0a2-402e-987f-6a4557eb7b2c@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  2753ed67-672f-4dd7-b3bd-638b2f26255c@googlegroups.com
      Arindam_Banerjee│  aaae72cb-75b3-4259-9383-c565646d52a0@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  97a9f1e6-57d9-4476-927d-5303c5ef94e0@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.42pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m86 Top; 1.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 15 {  1:33pm, 2018 }:55^(PST)  Xeπϛ
      Isaac Newton

> " Not only was Isaac Newton a great scientist 
>   but also a dedicated student of the Bible. "

Were he alive today, he'd probably Netflix and chill.
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      .  6a1a1e1nhbalid9dkvfl5r228pbu8csa8k@4ax.com
    MrAA  fbe2a241-01a4-4169-86f2-7d263ec247bf@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.35pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 1  m85 Top; 5.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 15 {  1:19pm, 2018 }: 5^(PST)  Xeξȷ
      How many more do you want ?

MrAA:
> ObamaCare is dead!
> You are now free to see any doctor your money can buy!

Clean water, high quality food, and tons of leisure time
allowed you to live so long, not ObamaCare.  

You've eaten a lot of pizzas in your lifetime.
How many more do you want ? 
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.26am.Seattle.2018
            %│%  br07b8.bc9.19.1@news.alt.net
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--11.53am.Seattle.2018
        %│%  br0ck4.puj.17.2@news.alt.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--0.16pm.Seattle.2018
    %│%  br0de4.tgh.19.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--1.22pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m19 Dropped; 45.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Dec 15 {   :23pm, 2018 }:57^(-7)  Xeδჳ
      Your 2,000$ graphics card isn't going to be used.

> > > GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB
> > 
> > Sounds like a waste of money.
> 
> text on a screen looks like text on a screen, 
> monitor not withstanding

Your 2,000$ graphics card isn't going to be used.
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              JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.07am.Seattle.2018
            Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pv3g6n$1q4l$1@gioia.aioe.org
          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.26am.Seattle.2018
        %│%  br07b8.bc9.19.1@news.alt.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--11.53am.Seattle.2018
    %│%  br0ck4.puj.17.2@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--0.16pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m18 Dropped; 2.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Dec 15 {   :10pm, 2018 }: 5^(-7)  Xeβϳ
      Why would someone give you such a powerful PC ?

> > What does that add up to, dollar wise ?
> > What monitor, Mouse ?
> 
> I don't know what mouse is; the monitor is an acer.
> I don't know the cost, it's a gift.

Why would someone give you such a powerful PC 
when you don't even know what your monitor is ?

Sounds like a waste of money.
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          JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.07am.Seattle.2018
        Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pv3g6n$1q4l$1@gioia.aioe.org
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.26am.Seattle.2018
    %│%  br07b8.bc9.19.1@news.alt.net
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--11.53am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m17 Dropped; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Dec 15 { 10:40am, 2018 }:  ^(-7)  XeΛϠ
      I have a 3,000$ PC, if you count my 1,000$ ArmMounted monitor.

> CPU 18X-Core Intel Core i9 7980XE 2.6GHz; 
> Corsair H110 Liquid Cooling; MB ASUS PRIME X299-Deluxe;
> RAM 128GB DDR4 High Performance Memory; HDD 10TB Storage Drive;
> M.2 SSD 1TB NVMe Samsung 970 EVO; GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB;
> PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W 80 PLUS Gold;
> 24X Asus DVD+/-RW; OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit; 
> 2x Gigabit LAN, 2x; 802.11ad Wi-Fi, Bluetooth V4.1

What does that add up to, dollar wise ?
What monitor, Mouse ?
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      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.07am.Seattle.2018
    Sergio│invalid@invalid_com  pv3g6n$1q4l$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.26am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m53 Cool; 38 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 15 { 10:12am, 2018 }:26^(-6)  XeΗQ
      I have a 3,000$ PC, if you count my 1,000$ ArmMounted monitor.

Sergio replied:
> > I've been bashing my head against the wall,
> > trying to stop FireFox's "HeartBeat" from NAGGING me to update.
> 
> go to a $35  4 core at 1.2Ghz  Raspberry Pi 3 B+  forget windows

I found the solution, I killed the nag.

I have a 3,000$ PC, if you count my 1,000$ ArmMounted monitor.
16 gigs of ram is a must; for file caching, if nothing else.
I can't imagine anything less than a terabyte SSD.

Mac     users vote with their wallet and their STAGE time.
Windows users vote with their wallet and their WORK time.
Distro  users vote with their PLAY time.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.12am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      Technology&Globalization are displacing workers, causing homelessness.

Technology&Globalization are displacing workers, causing homelessness.

In Seattle, a number of my tenants have received help paying
PastDue rent from various "Catholic Community Services", 
including the YMCA and Salvation Army.  

I suspect that Bill Gates, a Catholic,
has his recently contributed a lot to them.
Jeff Bezos has done the same, to similar charities.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.15--10.07am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
      TV rich/stupid.

I stopped using Google Chrome because, 
after a while, AutoPlay would resume, despite my efforts to stop it;
obviously, AutoPlay makes Google richer -- TV rich/stupid. 

I run FireFox 56 because 57 doesn't allow my ( ad killing ) extensions;
another money grab, I assume.

For many frustrating months now,
I've been bashing my head against the wall,
trying to stop FireFox's "HeartBeat" from NAGGING me to update.

The solution:

  Using "about:config" set "extensions.shield-recipe-client.enabled"
  to "false", set "extensions.shield-recipe-client.api_url" to "",
  and "extensions.shield-recipe-client.run_interval_seconds" to "1544885326".

Before, "run_interval_seconds" was set to _ nag me every 24 hours.
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.14--5.19am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics
      Both primal and fleeting, happiness is an empty bladder.

Both primal and fleeting, happiness is an empty bladder.
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          sam_wormley@gmail_com  53077db2-c863-4bbd-a540-94711d3f1dfa@googlegroups.com
        MrAA  d946fa1d-a1aa-43bb-acdd-f37bf3c29626@googlegroups.com
      sam_wormley@gmail_com  63c8070b-b8dd-4a2e-8a78-28757d9d9e37@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  42d801df-90ac-48e0-9f30-b3d793756744@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.13--2.36pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╱ 4  m80 Top; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 13 {   :59pm, 2018 }:32^(PST)  Xdəლ
      Robots will replace us.

> > whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar
> > with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
> > phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html
> 
> No previous species had the brains to make air conditioners!
> Don't worry!  ...

.... because robots will replace us.
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              HughHuntzinger  85c62af2-2972-4a96-829e-66977304da23@googlegroups.com
            MrChrisV  ekgl0e5qel04frqvq23ckf6cbgb8tc4mkj@4ax.com
          MrChrisV  8ljl0epu2c8grrj0rk1gludqh29vecf92v@4ax.com
        HughHuntzinger  7d512b04-a270-4720-b96d-917c0ac2d806@googlegroups.com
      MrChrisV  s0qs0e1dnpral9i46hl57tg05tek21osov@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  ac5b432f-9c34-41f9-81ea-9fb9a6db7897@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--7.31am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 6  m52 Top; 2 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Dec 10 {  6:46am, 2018 }:37^(PST)  XbRУ
      Dweebs hop from distro to distro SemiRandomly.

Hugh wrote:
> only one of these will be the best solution overall.

Dweebs hop from distro to distro SemiRandomly.
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              HughHuntzinger  ded6bb3f-1bb2-4e82-97e1-def85fe1549b@googlegroups.com
            SteveCarroll  e0fb1bf7-dfc9-4277-a828-5e3a976a14af@googlegroups.com
          HughHuntzinger  85c62af2-2972-4a96-829e-66977304da23@googlegroups.com
        MrChrisV  ekgl0e5qel04frqvq23ckf6cbgb8tc4mkj@4ax.com
      MrChrisV  8ljl0epu2c8grrj0rk1gludqh29vecf92v@4ax.com
    HughHuntzinger  7d512b04-a270-4720-b96d-917c0ac2d806@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.12--7.24am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy
    ╱ 7  m52 Top; 4.8 Days, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26,  Dec  7 {   :29pm, 2018 }:15^(PST)  XZɔщ
      Richard Stallman: "I can dance."

Hugh wrote:
> consumers voting with their wallet means that Capitalism 
> benefits from "crowd sourcing" (crowd sourced data).

Mac     users vote with their wallet and their STAGE time.
Windows users vote with their wallet and their WORK time.
Distro  users vote with their PLAY time.
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              Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3678642f7d801244524@news.eternal-september.org
            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.10--11.06am.Seattle.2018
          Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pumhid$l2v$5@dont-email.me
        %│%  bqj7e3.ghj.19.2@news.alt.net
      JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.10--2.25pm.Seattle.2018
    BenJacoby  pun9om$1vrd$1@gioia.aioe.org
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.11--3.44am.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╱ 1  m28 Dropped; 8.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG,  Dec 10 {  7: 9pm, 2018 }:13^(-5)  XbʗΣ
      Bert has unlimited credit and isn't afraid to use it.

Ben told me:
> Next to SmellBert you are 
> one of the most entertaining characters here.

Bert has unlimited credit and isn't afraid to use it;
once his M&M filters goes public, he'll make Bill Gates
and Jeff Bezos look like starving Africans. 

Then he'll buy the Nobel committee and award himself all the medals.

> Compare yourself to the fat "kensi" twins. 
> They are a pitiful excuse for humanity whose 
> only function is to make you look like a genius.

She *snicker* has a diploma hanging above her *snicker* desk.
We know *snicker* because she told us so *snicker*.
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      mitchrae3323@gmail_com  242d164f-e105-4f9d-9543-ff4c840e856a@googlegroups.com
    MrAA  7c4e847d-9ac5-4c77-9f49-2e39b979b6dd@googlegroups.com
Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.10--2.48pm.Seattle.2018
  Sci.Physics
    ╳ 1  m91 Top; 8 Secs, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25,  Dec 10 {  2:42pm, 2018 }:28^(PST)  XbɫS
      General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics.

> > No reason to believe in black holes.  There are reasons not to.

Amen to that; black holes are "science" FICTION.

> > Atoms collapse into Neutrons stars 
> > but Neutron stars won't collapse further.
> 
> The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than
> a tightly grouped bunch of individual stars.  Don't believe me?
> Do the math!

General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics.
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              kensi│kkensington01@gmail_  pum914$1qvi$5@gioia.aioe.org
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          Skeeter│chico@invalid_invalid  MPG.3678642f7d801244524@news.eternal-september.org
        JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.10--11.06am.Seattle.2018
      Nadegda│nad318b404@gmail_  pumhid$l2v$5@dont-email.me
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Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.10--2.25pm.Seattle.2018
  Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate
    ╳ 1  m90 Dropped; 8.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET,  Dec 10 {   :21pm, 2018 }:50^(-7)  Xbɓϖ
      Last 13 years, no one has liked me.

> Why do you come to a place you don't like, and are not liked ?

....he asked himself.

Last 13 years, no one has liked me.
I come here to learn stuff.

> a semi hard dick intrigues me.

TMI.  Also, thi