■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.39am.Seattle.2019 Kensi qscqiv$t79$10@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--3.05pm.Seattle.2019 Kensi qsflmq$1jc$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.7--6.32am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m11 Dropped; 6.4 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Dec 6 { 11:51pm, 2019 }:57^(2) XФɌϝ "Jealousy" is your song and dance, ko0ky. Kensi replied ( to me ): > > > Pol Pot Communism ( where subsistence farmers > > > and businessmen trade careers, destroying > > > everything-n-everyone ) is fueled by jealousy. > > > > > > Bernie Sanders is doing the Pol Pot dance here too. > > That does not seem to be a retraction of your scurrilous false > comparison of Sanders to a mass murderer, ko0ky. "Jealousy" is your (ugly) song and dance, ko0ky; and Bernie is playing the tunes, Pol Pot style. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.39am.Seattle.2019 Kensi qscqiv$t79$10@gioia.aioe.org Ted│ted@sam_street almarsoft.1836365811540136593@us.news.astraweb.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.32pm.Seattle.2019 Ted│ted@sam_street almarsoft.257718492301617380@us.news.astraweb.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--8.32pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m5 Shifty; 56.6 Minutes, Groundhog➤Android, HighWinds, Dec 6 { 7:15pm, 2019 }:39^(-5) XФWτ Bernie isn't as rich is his peers. Ted replied ( to me ): > > If the word "communism" is too scary for you, > > try "jealousy", as it's just one of the 7 deadly sins, > > like gluttony -- and Bernie is definitely jealous. > > Bernie's a multimillionaire. > I'm sure he's not jealous at all. Bernie isn't as rich is his peers. He had to run a popular presidential campaign, twice, and sell some books before he got his paltry millions ( not enough to buy a fancy house, in my neck of the woods ). It's pretty obvious that he's concerned about relative poverty, not absolute poverty. > > Absolute poverty should be our primary concern, not jealousy. > > To date, no one has found a decent solution. > > Oh, I dunno. FDR put a huge dent in it, > which was gradually improved by the Democrats through Carter. > ( But those Democrats are long gone ) Google: Los Angeles, Seattle homeless > > Like Hitler, Duterte and Chairman Xi, > > Ben Jacoby would just kill them ASAP. > > Whatever. Perhaps Ben is just a horrible communicator, but his "45 cent" solution rubbed me the wrong way. I don't know how you could be so callous; maybe you should get outside more often, to see what the real world is like. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.39am.Seattle.2019 Kensi qscqiv$t79$10@gioia.aioe.org Ted│ted@sam_street almarsoft.1836365811540136593@us.news.astraweb.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.32pm.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qsf0fe$1cds$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--6.46pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m112 Dropped; 32 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Dec 6 { 5:49pm, 2019 }:35^(-5) XФIɟ Pol Pot killed/destroyed randomly. Pol Pot killed/destroyed randomly, Ben Jacoby. Anyone richer than he was ( prior to his ascension ) was an "undesirable", but he was damn good at emaciating his "oppressed" brethren too. Although today's "undesirables" die rapidly, plenty live-on, and they need to be taken care of, if possible. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.39am.Seattle.2019 Kensi qscqiv$t79$10@gioia.aioe.org Ted│ted@sam_street almarsoft.1836365811540136593@us.news.astraweb.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--5.32pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m3 Shifty; 18.4 Minutes, Groundhog➤Android, HighWinds, Dec 6 { 4:46pm, 2019 }:57^(-5) XФ7з Anyone who discusses "relative poverty" is a despicable slob. Ted replied ( to Kensi ): > > > Pol Pot Communism ( where subsistence farmers > > > and businessmen trade careers, destroying > > > everything-n-everyone ) is fueled by jealousy. > > > > > > Bernie Sanders is doing the Pol Pot dance here too. > > > > You take that back ! > > It's idiotic because Bernie is hardly a communist. > So far, he just comes across as a sheepdog to herd > leftists like you back into the Democratic Party. If the word "communism" is too scary for you, try "jealousy", as it's just one of the 7 deadly sins, like gluttony -- and Bernie is definitely jealous. Anyone who discusses "relative poverty" is a despicable slob. Absolute poverty ( i.e. "undesirables" wandering around like stray dogs, thieving junkies, squatters, stealing stuff left-n-right, with impunity ) should be our primary concern, not jealousy. To date, no one has found a decent solution. Like Hitler, Duterte and Chairman Xi, Ben Jacoby would just kill them ASAP. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.39am.Seattle.2019 Kensi qscqiv$t79$10@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.6--3.05pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m74 Dropped; 9.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Dec 5 { 9:56pm, 2019 }:41^(2) XУΔʡ Absolute poverty. Kensi replied ( to me ): > > Pol Pot Communism ( where subsistence farmers > > and businessmen trade careers, destroying > > everything-n-everyone ) is fueled by jealousy. > > > > Bernie Sanders is doing the Pol Pot dance here too. > > You take that back ! Anyone who discusses "relative poverty" is committing the sin of envy ( gluttony, greed, lust, pride, sloth, and wrath ). Absolute poverty ( i.e. "undesirables" wandering around like stray dogs, thieving junkies, squatters, stealing stuff left-n-right, with impunity ) should be your primary concern, not jealousy. To date, no one has found a decent solution. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.5--6.39am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate The world has gone insane. Avoid tenants that aren't disciplined enough to have saved up enough money to pay for their own move-in costs; e.g. those using/abusing their parents and/or a charity. Washington State's "Source of Income Protections" Law ( RCW 59.18.255 ) says that I have to accept a "promissory note" from a "Social Services agency"; i.e. I MUST let "undesirables" move in before getting paid anything from anyone. Evictions are extremely expensive, nightmarish; just yesterday, I got a death threat from an angry gang of squatters who refuse to leave. Seattle does everything in its power to make housing "undesirables" my problem, not theirs. Squatters treat your property like a squat; and, to feel good about themselves, they MUST think that everyone else is doing the same, including the landlord. Jealousy is another factor. Pol Pot Communism ( where subsistence farmers and businessmen trade careers, destroying everything-n-everyone ) is fueled by jealousy. Mainland China is jealous of Hong Kong, killing it. Bernie Sanders is doing the Pol Pot dance here too. The world has gone insane. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.2--7.25pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate The world isn't so much "in" a depression... The world isn't so much "in" a depression as it is depressed -- old and young alike. "Reggie In China" s01e02 (Beijing) details the life of ZTO's package-delivery men in Beijing. They sleep on plywood, in bunkbeds, 14 to a room; money is sent home to their rural wives-n-children. This makes deliveries amazingly good+cheap+fast ( compared to anywhere else ) but it can't last; such "family values" will soon be gone, Americanized, no matter how many proverbial "(fire)walls", and surveillance systems Beijing might employ. Instead of "Mak[ing] America Great Again", some guys try to turn back the clock by finding desperate women in secluded corners of the world. It doesn't work, of course. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.24pm.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger e5bfc8e5-e4ae-4ef2-8719-a704ecddbb11@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.46am.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger 1470cfaf-40a5-4505-8142-b30e8b9eb2ea@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--3.47pm.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger 063e6127-d4a4-45a8-8c58-31fd4d4178aa@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--5.58am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 30 m68 Cool; 12.6 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Nov 22 { 7: 1am, 2019 }:36^(PST) XКʖɠ Imprudent Loans. You make an interesting point, Hugh Huntzinger; certain tax advantages make it so well-off professionals are crowding-out first-time buyers. By the way, a speech-to-text ( Nuance Dragon ) bug transformed " [T]here are tax code factors " into: " [dense]here are tax code factors ". If I don't continually re-mute the microphone, it spits out spurious words like "dense". It relies on context ("Nuance"); so, sometimes, I have to say a phrase in order to get the word I want. You mentioned: > one's home being a retirement savings investment. While that may be true for well-off Boomers, one should consider what Millennials are/were doing. 2004, they were leaving college and entering the market burdened with student-loan debt and 8-year car loans; currently, they're defaulting on these (imprudent) loans. "Banks" are holding $3.1 trillion in cash-out refis from 2005 - 2007; recently, cash-out refis have been growing rapidly, like 2005 - 2007. Gary Shilling says we're in a recession now, and I quite agree. A year from now, we'll get the official declaration, -- a day late, and a dollar short -- and the stock market will dip. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.27pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr7k1t$7vi$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.49pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr8m1c$dsf$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.55am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr8t23$osj$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--7.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m25 Shifty; 11.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 22 { 6:58am, 2019 }:11^(-6) XКʕϹ Too Embarrassing. > Never let facts spoil your stories. ...."jim" said, looking in the mirror. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > I'm amazed anyone pays their mortgage these days; > > 50 % of past-due mortgages have gone 5+ years without > > making any payments at all, and it doesn't even show up > > on Fannie Mae's reports anymore -- too embarrassing. > > That would be because Fannie Mae was > not involved with those mortgages. The re-default rate for Fannie Mae loans: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-widening-crack-in-the-mortgage-market-could-sink-us-home-prices-2019-10-03 Until 2018, Fannie Mae published re-default rates for its modified loans in its quarterly Credit Supplement report. Based on Fitch Ratings data, the re-default rate for Fannie Mae loans modified three or more years ago could be approaching 50%. The (ongoing) problem is NOT confined to subprime mortgages. "Banks" are holding $3.1 trillion in cash-out refis from 2005 - 2007; recently, cash-out refis have been growing rapidly, like 2005 - 2007. " This home mortgage disaster is ready to punish housing markets " By Keith Jurow, Nov 20, 2019 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-home-mortgage-disaster-is-ready-to-punish-housing-markets-2019-11-19 by mid-2010 there were more subprime modified mortgages re-defaulting than there were delinquent loans being foreclosed and liquidated by mortgage servicers. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--8.31am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr6tin$opn$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.27pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr7k1t$7vi$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.49pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr8m1c$dsf$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22--5.55am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m24 Shifty; 19 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 22 { 4:58am, 2019 }:20^(-6) XКʁВ Negative interest rates are a wealth tax. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > An inverted yield curve (accurately) predicts a recession. > > Except when it doesn't like in 1966 or 2019 We're in a recession right now, according to Gary Shilling ( and me ). The recession that started December 2007 wasn't recognized until December 2008. March 2009, the Dow dropped 50% from its highs; you amateurs are always late to the party, like that. > What happened to your claim in your last post that > " Yield curve inversions are known to cause recessions"; > "predict" and "cause" do not mean the same thing. The Fed increased short-term rates, mid 2004; I saw the effects immediately; you amateurs didn't, but I did. Warren Buffett and Gary Shilling knew about it even earlier. Today, the Fed is buying/holding long-term assets, 4.5 trillion dollars worth, see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Feds.Balance.Sheet--WSJ.JPG No one thinks they'll ever be able to back out of that; it's a gift, a 4.5 trillion dollar moral hazard, and over a trillion $ of it went to Fannie and Freddie. I'm amazed anyone pays their mortgage these days; 50 % of past-due mortgages have gone 5+ years without making any payments at all, and it doesn't even show up on Fannie Mae's reports anymore -- too embarrassing. > > When investors ( and/or the Fed ) think the economy > > will be getting weaker in the coming decades, > > they buy safe T-bonds instead of risky stocks. > > The Fed has never bought stocks of any kind let > alone "risky stocks". "investors and/or the Fed" bought T-bonds; soon, the Fed will be buying/holding stocks too; -- it'll be a gift, yet another moral hazard. > late 2007 through 2008 the Fed was powerless > to prevent interest rates from fallng to zero. They stopped it from going below zero; but that won't last. Negative interest rates are a wealth tax. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--4.39pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3ii4$fkh$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--8.31am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr6tin$opn$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.27pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr7k1t$7vi$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--10.49pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m23 Shifty; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 21 { 7:18pm, 2019 }:21^(-6) XКXL An inverted yield curve (accurately) predicts a recession. An inverted yield curve (accurately) predicts a recession. In 2008, long-term Treasuries soared ( yields dropped ); March 9, 2009 the Dow fell to 6,469 . When investors ( and/or the Fed ) think the economy will be getting weaker in the coming decades, they buy safe T-bonds instead of risky stocks. In the year ending August 31st, 2019, Gary Shilling's 30-year, zero coupon, T-bonds gave him a 34.5% return; in contrast, the S&P 500 gained just 2%. And he's been killing it, like that, for 40+ years now, ever since he predicted "the bond rally of a lifetime". Note: his money is held privately; he's a private man. The 14th richest man in the world, Michael Bloomberg, 3-term mayor of New York, and current presidential candidate, chose Gary Shilling to write his editorials. Warren Buffett and Google are sitting on a mountain of cash. You can bet against these guys, if you want, "jim"; but you will just be making them richer, and you poorer. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--2.56pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 774f44f5-c1d1-4694-8bdd-d25a2383cdf7@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.49pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 8e400648-86ad-44a6-a60f-05a2757b64e2@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--5.29pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll bd7c0cae-aeb6-4732-85f5-a3aad486b7af@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--6.45pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 16 m148 Cool; 4.8 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 21 { 6:29pm, 2019 }:44^(PST) XКOღ Millennials don't need another reason to be depressed. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > Millennials are even more interested in buying homes than their parents They shouldn't be wanting real estate; they don't need another reason to be depressed. " The Economy Is Booming, But Young Workers Are Miserable " By Ran Zilca, April 2019: https://www.barrons.com/articles/young-people-are-increasingly-depressed-and-anxious-and-no-one-knows-why-51556627408 ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--6.32pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Civil Disobedience is extremely popular these days. Civil Disobedience is extremely popular these days. Hong Kong people are voting with their feet. By hook or crook, they're moving to Canada and Australia. Despite massive walls, including electronic firewalls, Marxism was never able to stop the Exodus of its best and brightest. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.46am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 3a4ff598-31d9-4dd6-9ef2-1191dbb8c0c8@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--2.56pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 774f44f5-c1d1-4694-8bdd-d25a2383cdf7@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.49pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 8e400648-86ad-44a6-a60f-05a2757b64e2@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--5.29pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 16 m147 Cool; 10.6 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 21 { 5: 2pm, 2019 }: 9^(PST) XКAʁ The Climate Apocalypse Cult is brainwashing school kids. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > millennials-have-officially-entered-the-housing-market NewsFlash: Millennials are First-Time buyers. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China ? You're no Gary Shilling, obviously. > > Thank you for your service but this is the trend: > > > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG > > With all the doom and gloom painted by the media > every single day, who can blame them ? The Climate Apocalypse Cult is brainwashing school kids; and they're drinking the Kool-Aid. They shout " Save the Planet ! " as they toss their lunch into the wrong recycling bin. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.24pm.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger e5bfc8e5-e4ae-4ef2-8719-a704ecddbb11@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.46am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 3a4ff598-31d9-4dd6-9ef2-1191dbb8c0c8@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--2.56pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 774f44f5-c1d1-4694-8bdd-d25a2383cdf7@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.49pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 15 m145 Cool; 38.2 Minutes, GoogleG, Nov 21 { 3:51pm, 2019 }:47^(PST) XЙჴϒ Millennials don't want real estate. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > > Butt-Fuck Egypt is no one's ideal location. > > LOL! Conversely, Seattle isn't on any lists of > home-buying millennials ;) They aren't buying homes, that's my point. Nor should they, as Gary Shilling points out here: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting The 14th richest man in the world, Michael Bloomberg, 3-term mayor of New York, and current presidential candidate, has Gary Shilling writing his op-eds. Forbes too, as well as other prestigious publications, all around the globe; see: https://muckrack.com/a-shilling/articles > They want to own their houses, Millennials don't want real estate; nor should they, nor can they. > > Today, kids are more of a liability than anything else. > > Well, they're our (mankind's) future so... Thank you for your service but this is the trend: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--1.06pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr1o70$e61$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--4.39pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3ii4$fkh$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--8.31am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr6tin$opn$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.27pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m22 Shifty; 1.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 21 { :54pm, 2019 }:47^(-6) XЙთl Absent the Fed, T-bill rates would be negative. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > Fed Funds rates started going up mid 2004; > > 3.5 years later, late 2007, the crash began. > > July 2004 Dow is at 10,200 > Sept 2007 Dow is at 13,800 March 9, 2009 Dow hits 6,469 " Late 2007, the crash BEGAN ". > That doesn't look good for your theory. Yield curve inversions are known to cause recessions; it's not "my theory". > yield curve inversions are not Fed-induced. You're the only one who (foolishly) thinks that. So long as people aren't buying too much, inducing inflation, the Fed can print as much money as it wants, to buy T-bills; in the future, the Fed will buy stocks too; like this: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Feds.Balance.Sheet--WSJ.JPG Nothing, Nowhere, is safer than a T-bill; absent the Fed, T-bill rates would be negative. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--4.39pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3ii4$fkh$1@dont-email.me Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qr3o2j$151$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3vnu$1vu$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.11am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr6hkg$dk5$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--4.07pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m22 Shifty; 5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 21 { 9:30am, 2019 }:55^(-6) XЙеt Switzerland's central bank buys US stocks. "jim" replied ( to me ): > [ The Fed Funds rate follows the T-bill market ] The Fed controls the T-bill market; i.e. they can, and do, invert the yield curve. By the way, Switzerland's central bank buys US stocks, e.g. Google and Amazon; Japan does something similar; before long, the Fed will do the same. 3 to 4 years after the Fed starts raising rates, the stock market begins to realize that a recession is coming. Compared to the last recession, this one will be quite mild, because rates weren't raised much, and were quickly lowered again. Normally, when not in an obvious recession, the fed doesn't lower rates, and the government doesn't jack-up deficit spending. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.24pm.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger e5bfc8e5-e4ae-4ef2-8719-a704ecddbb11@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.46am.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger 1470cfaf-40a5-4505-8142-b30e8b9eb2ea@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--3.47pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 19 m58 Cool; 5.8 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Nov 21 { 8:48am, 2019 }:17^(PST) XЙЮH No wonder Millennials don't vote. Hugh Huntzinger wrote: > There are tax code factors which make [homeownership] > more profitable than it may initially appear. Today, kids are more of a liability than anything else. Millennials aren't really into it. They can barely afford rent; estate taxes aren't on the radar. No wonder they don't vote; like you, the candidates are oblivious to their concerns. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.24pm.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger e5bfc8e5-e4ae-4ef2-8719-a704ecddbb11@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.46am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 3a4ff598-31d9-4dd6-9ef2-1191dbb8c0c8@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--2.56pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 12 m141 Cool; 6.2 Hours, GoogleG, Nov 21 { 8:19am, 2019 }: ^(PST) XЙЩy The world is flowing INTO cities. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > buying the right house, in the right area, > beats the hell outta renting. Butt-Fuck Egypt is no one's ideal location. Who wants to spend hours a day commuting ?! The world is flowing INTO cities, not out of them. Owning a large house is your dad's dream/nightmare; his adult kids are in the basement, playing video games. Today, kids are more of a liability than anything else. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr12b1$6fp$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--1.06pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr1o70$e61$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--4.39pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3ii4$fkh$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--8.31am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m20 Shifty; 1.1 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 20 { 6:28am, 2019 }:19^(-6) XЙOБ Recessions ALWAYS follow a Fed-induced yield curve inversion. "jim" replied ( to me ): > Your claim that the [2008] crash was a result of > interest rates going up years earlier seems > counterfactual to me. Normally, when not in an obvious recession, the fed doesn't lower rates, and the government doesn't jack-up deficit spending. Recessions always follow a Fed-induced yield curve inversion. Always. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG Fed Funds rates started going up mid 2004; 3.5 years later, late 2007, the crash began. Were history to (perfectly) repeat, the crash would've begun mid-2019. Rates weren't raised much this time, and the Fed quickly lowered rates again; hence the delay, I assume. > Five years is a long time to imagine you are sitting > at the top of a roller coaster. Warren Buffett was accumulating cash in 2002, anticipating the 2008 crash. And he's doing it again, now. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.24pm.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger e5bfc8e5-e4ae-4ef2-8719-a704ecddbb11@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.46am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 9 m47 Cool; 12.9 Hours, GoogleG, 173.54.111.20, Nov 20 { 5:12pm, 2019 }:42^(PST) XЙʄg Estate Taxes ?! Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to me ): > > "Millennials Should Be Happy They Are Stuck Renting" > > By A. Gary Shilling, Nov 4, 2019 > > https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting > > [ Although renters *claim* ] that renting is cheaper > than buying, the only way that that is possible is > if their landlord is literally losing money on their rental. How does one buy a room in shared housing ? How high are the "condo" fees ? The smallest houses here, immediately north of the University of Washington, north Seattle, cost a million dollars. And, no, I don't want to be renting out "my" house to complete strangers. Then there's taxes, maintenance, regulations, closing costs, interest payments, insurance, etc. Landlords take on all the risk, not just the upside; home prices can fall, leaving one underwater. > the $11M Estate Tax exemption. Estate Taxes ?! you must be joking. The people I know are lucky if they can pay rent, instead of returning home to mom's basement, or injecting meth in a tent, with a dog, and stealing ( with impunity ) left and right. Were you in touch with today's population, Hugh, you'd understand why Gary Shilling is buying (micro) apartments ( in popular areas ). Presidential candidates should be discussing how to house undesirables ( who break laws, left and right ), instead of being worried about _ relative poverty. You're out of touch. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--1.06pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr1o70$e61$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--4.39pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3ii4$fkh$1@dont-email.me Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qr3o2j$151$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr3vnu$1vu$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21--7.11am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m20 Shifty; 19.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 20 { 10:13am, 2019 }:17^(-6) XЙȴɅ When the Fed (foolishly) inverts the yield curve. "jim" replied ( to Sergio ): > > it seems the fed raised rates too much too fast 2004 to 2007 (one cause > > of 2008 crash) and economies have a slow response time as it works > > through the system. I wonder what the Fed assumes that time constant is? > > First of all, all the Fed did was follow > the market rates for short term Treasury notes. > Second the evidence does not support your story. When the Fed (foolishly) inverts the yield curve, a recession always follows... Always. It happens years later but, still, it happens. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG In uncertain times, people move into cash, the US dollar; so yields drop -- the Fed is powerless to stop it. Governments love negative interest rates, after inflation, because it's a wealth tax, like property taxes. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.20--4.24pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Millennials Should Be Happy They Are Stuck Renting "Millennials Should Be Happy They Are Stuck Renting" By A. Gary Shilling, Nov 4, 2019 https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqv8gr$1l1t$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqvato$k4e$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.27pm.Seattle.2019 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qr14f3$2m8$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--0.20pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr1npk$bop$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--5.15pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m15 Shifty; 33.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 19 { 1:45pm, 2019 }:22^(-6) XИςγ Did Securitization Cause the Mortgage Crisis ? "jim" replied ( to me ): > > > https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2011/10/19/did-securitization-cause-the-mortgage-crisis/ > > > > You couldn't have picked a better link to support my position. > > Mortgages have been packaged and resold for many decades, > > long before the 2007 real estate bubble. > > > > The problem was/is: yield chasing. > > One big inaccuracy is the assumption that the bad loans > originated with banks. Q. Did Securitization Cause the Mortgage Crisis ? A. No, it did not. Your miss-directions are annoying me, "jim". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--7.07pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqudc1$u9t$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr12b1$6fp$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--1.06pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr1o70$e61$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--4.39pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m15 Shifty; 26.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 19 { 1:52pm, 2019 }:31^(-6) XИσН "Investors" like "jim". "jim" replied ( to me ): > > The value of your pension goes down when the Fed raises > > short-term interbank rates because money flees > > the (much) riskier assets in your 401(k) for > > the safety of the FDIC-insured checking account; > > my pension account has nearly doubled (grown 70%) > since rates started to go up 5 years ago. "Investors" like you, "jim", were saying the same thing back in 2008. People like you are always the last ones to realize that you're at the top of the roller coaster, about to go down. Warren Buffett is sitting on a mountain of cash, as is Google, waiting for the bubble to pop. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqt4kj$1qrf$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqu6o6$m84$2@dont-email.me Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqv8gr$1l1t$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqvato$k4e$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.27pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr0p1u$har$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--2.17pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m10 Shifty; 15.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 19 { 5: am, 2019 }:45^(-6) XИʂj Moral Hazard. "jim" replied ( to me ): > the govt [gave] away $100 billion in profits > to [defaulting] homeowners. Talk about moral hazard... Where does one stand in line to receive these billions ? > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG > > americas-yield-curve-is-no-longer-inverted Fine, buy S&P 500 EFT's as the economy shrinks; it's your money. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--6.01pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqt342$gjc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--0.19am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqu6kb$m84$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--10.12pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr0u5q$ehq$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--2.01pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m13 Shifty; 5.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 19 { 6:28am, 2019 }: 9^(-6) XИʐϷ My knowledge benefits me, and only me. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > We're in a recession right now; you just don't know it. > > As long as you know it that is all that matters. right ? Yes, Precisely. My knowledge benefits me, and only me. I'm not an influencer, not by any stretch of the imagination. I can't force you to look at what you don't want to see. Officially, the previous recession started December 2007; people like you didn't know about it until December 2008; I knew about it in 2005, when the Fed started raising rates. Warren Buffett also knew; contrary to what he says, he's quite the market timer. Gary Shilling's returns were far higher than than Warren Buffett's; but Gary's assets are privately held -- because he's smarter. > > Instead of renting, they're either living with their parents > > or camped out in a tent city, with a dog, injecting meth; > > here, thieving junkies steal with impunity. > > So you are thinkin these people live on interest income > and when rates go down their income disappears > and they are out in the cold? What "rates" ? (safe) savings accounts or (risky) pensions ? If you don't see these problems, up close and personal, then you're deaf, dumb, and blind. > > The loans are continually rolled-over; > > shadow banks don't have to repay > > the trillions of $ they received. > > the trillions of $ [shadow banks] receive is > not coming from the Fed. You ignore the recent, growing repo problem. Look at the Fed's balance sheet, if you dare: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Feds.Balance.Sheet..WSJ.JPG What would happen if the Fed sold its trillion $ positions in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ? > you don't know what a shadow bank is ....he said, looking in the mirror. Examples of important components of the shadow banking system include securitization vehicles, asset-backed commercial paper [ABCP] conduits, money market funds, markets for repurchase agreements, investment banks, and mortgage companies. -- Ben Bernanke, Nov 2013 Again: You ignore the recent, growing repo problem. > > It's "kick the can", not a cleanup. > > more babble nonsense UnWinding the Fed's balance sheet would be a cleanup; but that's not happening any time soon; they tried, 2016-2018, and it failed. > I have seen no evidence that [ the Fed is ] > very good at [ altering the real economy ]. They can induce volatility; that's about it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--3.26pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsqgb$ccb$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--7.07pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqudc1$u9t$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qr12b1$6fp$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--1.06pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m13 Shifty; 4.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 19 { 7:39am, 2019 }:12^(-6) XИʜΡ Look at the Fed's balance sheet. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > > > Why is the Fed's balance sheet still 4.5 trillion $ ? > > > > > > [ to prevent deflation ] > > > > Whenever the Fed attempts to raise rates, > > more paper-wealth goes up in flames. > > I thought your story said everything > goes up in flames when the Fed lowers rates. The value of your pension goes down when the Fed raises short-term interbank rates because money flees the (much) riskier assets in your 401(k) for the safety of the FDIC-insured checking account; so you have to work longer for less. > > Globally, oversupply is chronic-n-ubiquitous, > > and savings accounts are evaporating; > > so you imagine but the evidence is to the contrary. What kind of interest are you getting on your savings account, after inflation ? Globally there's an oversupply of products and a lack of demand because there aren't enough good jobs to go around. If you're a retired Boomer, and your adult kids are still at home, playing video games, then spending less is your only option. Globally, the world is aging; people aren't producing enough ("useless") kids. That means negative growth, general deflation; e.g. an overproduction of gold ( vs. demand ). For more, Google "Gary Shilling". By the way, the inner-city poor experience wild inflation ( in the form of rent ) but that's another story. > > Boomers and their 30-year-old "dependents" are spending less. > > The Fed made them get old and retire. Is that what happened ? The population is aging, see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG > > The Fed "lends" financiers 4.5 trillion $, interest-free, > > and keeps rolling it over, for as long as they like; > > hopefully, they won't spend it on hookers. > > That's your story and you're sticking to it. Look at the Fed's balance sheet, if you dare: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Feds.Balance.Sheet..WSJ.JPG What would happen if the Fed sold its trillion $ positions in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ? ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqt4kj$1qrf$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqu6o6$m84$2@dont-email.me Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqv8gr$1l1t$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqvato$k4e$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.27pm.Seattle.2019 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qr14f3$2m8$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--0.20pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m7 Shifty; 3.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Nov 19 { 8:15am, 2019 }:27^(-6) XИʢθ People aren't producing enough ("useless") kids. Sergio wrote: > I did not read this one yet; > https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2011/10/19/did-securitization-cause-the-mortgage-crisis/ You couldn't have picked a better link to support my position. Mortgages have been packaged and resold for many decades, long before the 2007 real estate bubble. The problem was/is: yield chasing. The value of your pension goes down when the Fed raises short-term interbank rates because money flees the (much) riskier assets in your 401(k) for the safety of the FDIC-insured checking account; so you have to work longer for less. Globally there's an oversupply of products and a lack of demand because there aren't enough good jobs to go around. If you're a retired Boomer, and your adult kids are still at home, playing video games, then spending less is your only option. Globally, the world is aging; people aren't producing enough ("useless") kids. That means negative growth, general deflation; e.g. an overproduction of gold ( vs. demand ). For more, Google "Gary Shilling". By the way, the inner-city poor experience wild inflation ( in the form of rent ) but that's another story. > I was taking a financial Class at major university > when 2008 happened, got inside view. I simulate small banks in a community, it's my job; I'm a contractor for the ABA ( ABA.COM, "the bankers" ). ■ Kensi qqvtog$b8v$2@gioia.aioe.org ScottDoty h3hfpuFgiisU1@mid.individual.net Kensi qr05g0$1guk$1@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.383d440d4c2a645714be@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.19--1.12am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m21 Cool; 54.8 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET, Nov 19 { :13am, 2019 }:41^(-8) XИɒɥ "dark matter" is vacuum energy. "dark matter" is vacuum energy. "dark energy" is entropy. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--2.12pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsiup$74k$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--3.26pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsqgb$ccb$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--7.07pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqudc1$u9t$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m7 Shifty; 2.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 18 { 7:29am, 2019 }: 3^(-6) XЗРн Boomers and their 30-year-old "dependents". "jim" replied ( to me ): > > Why is the Fed's balance sheet still 4.5 trillion $ ? > > [ to prevent deflation ] Whenever the Fed attempts to raise rates, more paper-wealth goes up in flames. Globally, oversupply is chronic-n-ubiquitous, and savings accounts are evaporating; so Boomers and their 30-year-old "dependents" are spending less. The Fed "lends" financiers 4.5 trillion $, interest-free, and keeps rolling it over, for as long as they like; hopefully, they won't spend it on hookers. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsjtt$e9p$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--6.01pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqt342$gjc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--0.19am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqu6kb$m84$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--10.12pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m7 Shifty; 4.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 18 { 5:34am, 2019 }: 1^(-6) XЗϽϡ We're in a recession right now. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > SubPrime renters/borrowers are the first ones > > to lose income when the Fed tightens. > > > > Anyone tapped into that lucrative market, > > including myself, pays the price. > > OK I get it. You are a predatory slum lord and > you are blaming the Fed whenever you can't > maximize your predatory profits. No, you give me way too which credit; I'm a tenant-cum-manager, not a landlord. When the Fed raises rates, I feel it immediately, not 3-4 years later, when YOU "discover" it. We're in a recession right now; you just don't know it. I house people at the very bottom of the rental market, and I'm located just north of the University of Washington, North Seattle. A third of my 31 units are vacant; 2008 was the last time this happened. Instead of renting, they're either living with their parents or camped out in a tent city, with a dog, injecting meth; here, thieving junkies steal with impunity. > > What makes you think "it's different this time" ? > > the [biggest] fools were wiped out in 2008 I wasn't; 2019 is just a replay of 2008. The players may be different but the game is the same, and housing is more of a problem now than it ever was; 1930's Hooverville's were less of a problem. If you have a "child", you know what I mean. > look at the pictures from the Great Depression My parents lived in Seattle during the Great Depression; it wasn't bad at all, they say. > > How about I give you a trillion dollar "loan", > > with a negative interest rate, > > and no requirement to pay it back ? > > How about you stop babbling nonsense. That's what the central banks are doing. The loans are continually rolled-over; shadow banks don't have to repay the trillions of $ they received. It's "kick the can", not a cleanup. And it works, so long as interest rates never rise. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--6.01pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqt342$gjc$1@dont-email.me Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqt4kj$1qrf$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqu6o6$m84$2@dont-email.me Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qqv8gr$1l1t$1@gioia.aioe.org jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqvato$k4e$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--9.27pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m9 Shifty; 3.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 18 { 3:53pm, 2019 }:27^(-6) XЗჴვ Yield Chasing. "jim" replied ( to Sergio ): > > securitization caused a major part of the crash in 2008 > > That statement is most certainly correct . No, securitization was already there, well-established, thanks to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The dry tinder was subprime mortgages, yield chasing; it worked well at first, then fell apart. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bought those subprime loans; to this day, their liabilities exceed their assets. "jim" will find a way to excuse this, I'm sure, just like he found a way to ignore this: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsjtt$e9p$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--6.01pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqt342$gjc$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--0.19am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m4 Shifty; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 17 { 7:28pm, 2019 }: 1^(-6) XЗʚϡ How about I give you a trillion dollar "loan" ? "jim" replied ( to me ): > > SubPrime borrowers/renters work irregular hours, for irregular pay. > > > > Normally, SubPrime lending/renting is super-profitable but > > the shit hits the fan when the Fed raises rates, > > like 2004-2006, and 2016-2018 -- it's quite predictable. > > A quick google search reveals subprime auto defaults > were highest 2009-2011 when interest rates were lowest. It starts when FedFunds/Repo rates are rising; years later, as it's being cleaned up, YOU hear about it. I, on the other hand, knew about it IMMEDIATELY; and I know it's going to happen again, the next time the Fed attempts to raise rates. SubPrime renters/borrowers are the first ones to lose income when the Fed tightens. Anyone tapped into that lucrative market, including myself, pays the price. > [ 2007 was ] just a classic speculative bubble. What makes you think "it's different this time" ? Ignore these facts, if you must: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG > > Why is the Fed's balance sheet now 4.5 trillion $ ? > > To prevent the type of monetary collapse that > occurred during the Great Depression. That's a high price to pay, with little to show for it. How about I give you a trillion dollar "loan", with a negative interest rate, and no requirement to pay it back ? What would you do with the money ? Travel the world, looking for new sexual exploits ? Or would you house undesirables ? ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.39pm.Seattle.2019 . deafb9d9-de99-41e6-85a9-810dfb21a240@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--2.12pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsiup$74k$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--3.26pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsqgb$ccb$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--7.07pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 1.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 17 { 5: pm, 2019 }:59^(-6) XЗʂx Why is the Fed's balance sheet still 4.5 trillion $ ? "jim" replied ( to me ): > > Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are bankrupt, right ?! > > Ha HA HA not even close September 2008, they were taken over by U.S. regulators. June 2010, their shares were delisted from the NYSE. From Sep 2008 to Aug 2012, they took in $190 billion in aid. > since 2015 it has been a huge source of revenue They're all better now ?! Why is the Fed's balance sheet still 4.5 trillion $ ? That's a lot of money injected into the economy, with no repayment in sight, while undesirables go UnHoused. > > They consumed trillions of dollars of repos, > > issued by the Fed, with no repayment in sight. > > You clearly don't know what a repo is. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are shadow banks; and, like all shadow banks, they rely on repos. Are you familiar with what's been happening to repos lately, and how it's been getting worse ?! ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsjtt$e9p$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--6.01pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 21.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 17 { 3: 8pm, 2019 }:44^(-6) XЗɯʤ SubPrime borrowers/renters work irregular hours, for irregular pay. Who are you, SJ "jim" Edging ?! AnonLinuxUser ? Mr. Man-Wai Chang ? "jim" replied ( to me ): > > Talk about interest rate sensitivity... > > the Fed raises their rates a bit, 2016-2018, > > and we get a 20% default rate on subprime auto loans. > > The Fed fund rate has nothing to do with subprime auto loans. SubPrime borrowers/renters work irregular hours, for irregular pay. Normally, SubPrime lending/renting is super-profitable but the shit hits the fan when the Fed raises rates, like 2004-2006, and 2016-2018 -- it's quite predictable. Why is the Fed's balance sheet now 4.5 trillion $ ? That's a lot of money injected into the economy, with no repayment in sight, while undesirables go UnHoused. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 HerbertGlazier 0572f081-2458-48c4-8d80-8731168d3514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.39pm.Seattle.2019 HerbertGlazier deafb9d9-de99-41e6-85a9-810dfb21a240@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--2.12pm.Seattle.2019 jim│sjedgingNOSp@m@mwt_net qqsiup$74k$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--3.26pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 1.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 17 { 2:52pm, 2019 }: 8^(-6) XЗɬ϶ Bankrupt Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. "jim" replied ( to me ): > > Shadow banks, and failed government programs, > > such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are the ones > > who gave-out imprudent loans. > > That is False > There is no funding source for mortgages that has > ever done better than Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac > at picking loans that did not lose money. Yet they're bankrupt, right ?! They consumed trillions of dollars of repos, issued by the Fed, with no repayment in sight. They issued interest-rate sensitive, adjustable-rate mortgages, and they (unknowingly) purchased bad loans. ■ HerbertGlazier ffc3a06d-49d6-4662-8ff8-b705fbe4cb4e@googlegroups.com BenJacoby qqq8pf$16np$2@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 89faa646-3229-48f0-b560-831c88e94af9@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--2.19pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 6 m137 Cool; 19.4 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Nov 16 { 6:30pm, 2019 }:46^(PST) XЖЗk A million dollars is enough to rent the servants' quarters. bert wrote: > Swiss might give me a free Villa if I deposit my $$$$ there. A million dollars is enough to rent the servants' quarters. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 HerbertGlazier 0572f081-2458-48c4-8d80-8731168d3514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.39pm.Seattle.2019 HerbertGlazier deafb9d9-de99-41e6-85a9-810dfb21a240@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--2.12pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 12 m137 Cool; 33.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Nov 17 { 1:23pm, 2019 }:16^(PST) XЗɝъ America ignores the old, the young, the weak. Bert wrote: > Banks put jobless families out on the street. Not FDIC insured banks, not ABA banks ( American Bankers Association ). Shadow banks, and failed government programs, such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are the ones who gave-out imprudent loans. America ignores the old, the young, the weak, the insane, and the drug addicted. Jacking up the stock market, using 4.5 trillion $ of "quantitative easing" isn't going to house "undesirables" (strays). ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 HerbertGlazier 0572f081-2458-48c4-8d80-8731168d3514@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.17--0.39pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 29 m134 Cool; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Nov 17 { 10:48am, 2019 }:30^(PST) XЗȺU Weed weed, or pot ? Bert wrote: > M&M now in weed-wacking business. Weed weed, or pot ? > My van saves me $2,750 + each month. You could save even more if you robbed banks too, instead of just squatting/trespassing. > Here's to looking up a grass skirt. Today's women don't tolerate that. They'll post nude pics to Instagram, but they don't want to smell your stinky-ass. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.14--0.38am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics Interest Rate Sensitivity. Talk about interest rate sensitivity... the Fed raises their rates a bit, 2016-2018, and we get a 20% default rate on subprime auto loans. The same thing happened before, 2004-2006, the last time the Fed (foolishly) tried that, but with subprime mortgages. In a tale as old as time, "wolves" devoure the weak; Darwin won't be cheated. Ironically, wildly-expensive government "handouts" ( e.g. the 4.5 trillion $ in repos the Fed gave shadow banks ) are the most efficient killing machines ever devised. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.24am.Seattle.2019 The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5DC5B5FC.630E@ix.netcom.com MrChrisV c5dlsetclf9lsa4v8nvi0cs216j7j1r013@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.12--9.08am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m76 Dropped; 2.7 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Nov 12 { 5:40am, 2019 }:27^(-6) XГϾЙ High-speed Trains to nowhere. ChrisV wrote: > [ totalitarian governments accomplish more ] Marxist China built high-speed trains to nowhere, and colossal ghost towns, now crumbling. How many tons of nails must we produce this year, Comrade ? Karl Marx impregnated his maid and abandoned the child. It won't be long before China wakes up and chooses Taiwan's diversity over the mainland's insularity. Porn/YouTube will break down the wall. "Family Values" will become a thing of the past, and they'll be forced to house "undesirables" (strays). ■ . qq290s$ukm$1@gioia.aioe.org . qq2u7c$1pbg$3@gioia.aioe.org . h2kd7sFd7erU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.34am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ep1bseh5864g4fp50lbtkb7cinqsbf0i7b@4ax.com ScottDoty h2lonsFghecU5@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--10.35am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m39 Cool; 12.3 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Nov 8 { 9:59am, 2019 }:24 XБxგ Overturning the concordance model of cosmology. Scott Doty wrote: > Then you measure [ the Hubble constant ] in the local neighborhood. > This is a measurement closer to "now", and low and behold, > the CC is showing accelerated expansion. You can't measure the Hubble constant "in the local neighborhood"; 3 million light years is the minimum distance, from here. Also, the acceleration is accelerating -- "The Big Rip"; " dark energy is getting stronger as the universe ages. ". > Do you freakin' get it now? I know Greg got it wrong, he always does; people like him can't fathom entropy. He can't work out the difference between eXergy and energy. Nevertheless, he cited a _ very important study; Guido Risaliti, and many others, are overturning the concordance model of cosmology. ■ . qq28fj$ku0$3@dont-email.me . qq290s$ukm$1@gioia.aioe.org . qq2u7c$1pbg$3@gioia.aioe.org . h2kd7sFd7erU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.34am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ep1bseh5864g4fp50lbtkb7cinqsbf0i7b@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--10.07am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m18 Dropped; 2.2 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Nov 8 { 7:24am, 2019 }:12^(-5) XБYC "The Big Rip" is replacing the concordance model, Lambda-CDM. Greg replied ( to me ): > What the new research, using quasar lensing to pull in > very distant galaxies and mathematical formula, is that > the Hubble constant *becomes smaller* with distance. Right, the Hubble constant is smallest at the CMBR, at the start of the Big Bang, and grows larger with time. 22 billion years from now, it'll be infinite. > It remains to be seen if the slowing is enough > to eventually grind the expansion to a halt; > so a static (or even contracting) universe results. Quoting "Futurism.COM", January 2019: The new readings indicate that objects in the universe aren’t just [ accelerating away ], but are doing so at a quickening pace. According to [ Guido Risaliti ], this suggests that dark energy is getting stronger as the universe ages. Look it up, if you dare. "The Big Rip" is replacing the concordance model, Lambda-CDM. That's big news, and I knew about it many years ago. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainably consume residual eXergy ), same as the sun. ■ Kensi qq01fr$ih5$1@gioia.aioe.org Ken_Burgess│kbwc1954@gmail_com 39f87b1989cd81944fa4e9569b8326a1@dizum.com MsNadegda qq28fj$ku0$3@dont-email.me BenJacoby qq290s$ukm$1@gioia.aioe.org Kensi qq2u7c$1pbg$3@gioia.aioe.org ScottDoty h2kd7sFd7erU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--6.34am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m4 Cool; 7.8 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Nov 7 { 9:37pm, 2019 }: XАжy 22 billion years from now, the Hubble "constant" will be infinite. Scott Doty replied ( to Kensi ): > > Go pester someone else with your dark energy questions. > > Greg thinks cosmology is where he gets his hair done. No, Greg's "dark energy" (entropy) post was up-to-date, and it backs-up what I've been saying for years now. "The Big Rip" is replacing the concordance model, Lambda-CDM; 22 billion years from now, the Hubble "constant" will be infinite. Quoting "Futurism.COM", January 2019: Guido Risaliti and a colleague at Durham University laid out the provocative observations in a new paper published in the prestigious journal "Nature Astronomy". The duo examined x-ray and ultraviolet data from telescopes pointed at nearly two thousand quasars, which are huge black holes that spit out epic beams of energy. What they found was surprising. The new readings indicate that objects in the universe aren’t just [ accelerating away ], but are doing so at a quickening pace. According to the researchers, this suggests that dark energy is getting stronger as the universe ages. Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be. 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ). 695 trillion suns. Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing. In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainably consume residual eXergy ), same as the sun. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.8--5.24am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate China is shrinking. Money melts in hot tropical climates. Mild climates, like Seattle and San Francisco, foster companies like Boeing, Microsoft, Starbucks, and Amazon. From impoverished farmhands to "the best of the best", America accepts millions of eager immigrants; so its populace is growing while China is shrinking. It won't be long before China is as old, fat, and lazy as America. China's "family values" will soon be a thing of the past, and they too will have to house millions of "undesirables" (strays). America's culture is extremely diverse/widespread/popular, not just Marxist ( Karl Marx impregnated his maid ); China won't even let its serfs surf YouTube. ■ Commander_Kinsey│CFKinsey op.0awj1o2cwdg98l@glass Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ h2jl1rF9r57U2@mid.individual.net Commander_Kinsey│CFKinsey op.0awuchn5wdg98l@glass Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.41pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Computer.Workshop ╱ 2 m15 Cool; 2.9 Hours, operaMail➤Win32, Alt.NET, Nov 7 { 4:30pm, 2019 }: 7^(0) XАϳ7 I change webpages on the fly, manually. Kinsey wrote: > How hard can it be to run whatever the ad requests, > and ONLY omit the actual display on the screen ? This hard: Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT Jeff-Relf.Me/Firefox_NoScript.PNG Much of it is specific to each URL. I change webpages on the fly, manually; most cannot. ■ Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid huv1selaibgel7snuou9dovs54s7aatv2j@4ax.com VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 1heguszhr4tcx.dlg@v.nguard.lh Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid 5v14seld15uvvuent0bv6hnjt0im0se1vi@4ax.com VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 5ax116hti57p$.dlg@v.nguard.lh Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid 6cf4sehcpf8t66ad8j64mg05np3ehoa3g9@4ax.com VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 19pjl020zvyj5.dlg@v.nguard.lh Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--7.22pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 5 m42 Cool; 1.3 Days, 40tude, Individual.NET, Nov 6 { 11:33am, 2019 }:51^(-6) XϿщϗ For privacy, binary servers expire the "Path:" line. For privacy, binary servers expire the "Path:" line. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--1.53pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Shadow banks, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are scary zombies. Last 40 years, all over the world, money has been steadily, predictably, moving into the US dollar; specifically, into 30 year T-bonds, looking for a safe haven. Fed wonks had nothing to do with it; they own 1.4% of the 41 Trillion U.S. Bond Market. Shadow banks, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are scary zombies. Global OverSupply is real. OverSupply of high-income housing is real; especially in Australia and Canada, as money flees Hong Kong. UnderSupply of low-income housing is real; kids are sleeping on the streets, like stray dogs. Trump's (backwards) "solution" is trade tariffs; apparently, he's never heard of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. Elizabeth Warren's "solution" is to seize the assets of the wealthiest ( i.e. baby boomers ) and hand it to the poorest ( millennials ). ■ NY│me@privacy_invalid qpsc9t$d1l$1@dont-email.me Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid 3cf3sehumhgq72gobds10uocpomigukosk@4ax.com NY│me@privacy_invalid qpsgt4$a5j$1@dont-email.me Ken_Blake│ken@invalidemail_com h2e5keF5bp3U2@mid.individual.net PeeScent clpdkq.vkr.17.1@news.alt.net Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid g6DwF.3205$yS5.3172@fx22.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.6--0.36pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 2.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Nov 6 { 9: 8am, 2019 }:28^(-6) XϿбʔ Mark Lloyd is less literate than PeeScent. Mark Lloyd replied ( to PeeScent ): > > common saying in canada , > > things flying left and right , > > people running left and right , > > cars coming left and right > > All of those are situations where "different directions" make sense. > "Downloading left and right" isn't. In my book, that makes you more illiterate then PeeScent; something I would not have thought possible, up until now. PeeScent dropped out of 4th grade and has yet to catch up. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=left+and+right I went fishing yesterday and nailled bass left and right. Last night there were hotties in the club left and right. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/left+and+right -- in a very quick and uncontrolled way She has been spending money left and right. -- in all directions He was calling out names left and right. The police were stopping cars left and right. ■ nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 041120190942094682%nospam@nospam.invalid Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid mok0sedpfkpcuqkgmo1rkko5a50bqbfvnv@4ax.com Ken_Blake│ken@invalidemail_com h2babjFhhp6U2@mid.individual.net Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qpq1rj$58i$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--1.53pm.Seattle.2019 Lucifer│LuciferMorningstar dm92se1d43b7bq4d123ul51clr14dl34k0@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.5--1.30am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m12 Cool; 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 4 { 11:39pm, 2019 }: 7^(11) XϾъΜ Canadian Peso, Australian Yuan, and/or Hong Kong Pound. Morningstar replied ( to me ): > > Individual.NET ( 12$/Year ) > > What do you mean when you put the $ after the number > instead of where it should be ? Whenever you see the $ symbol, think: Canadian Pesos, Australian Yuan, and/or Hong Kong Lbs. ■ Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid m8euretrkjs9nfqgj3o4isno2t9seij0ds@4ax.com Neil│neil@myplaceofwork_com qpog7s$42q$1@dont-email.me nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 041120190942094682%nospam@nospam.invalid Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid mok0sedpfkpcuqkgmo1rkko5a50bqbfvnv@4ax.com Ken_Blake│ken@invalidemail_com h2babjFhhp6U2@mid.individual.net Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qpq1rj$58i$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--1.53pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m107 Top; 36.5 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Nov 4 { :31pm, 2019 }:47^(-5) XϾζɫ Downloading 10 GigaByte videos, left and right. INN servers, particularly Individual.NET ( 12$/Year ), are the best way to update text-only newsgroups. Binary servers ( Usenet-News.NET, BlockNews.NET ) are far cheaper then Individual.NET, because 5 $ lasts a lifetime, and they don't censor you. When it comes to posting, only a binary server will do. Binary servers have no "xRef:" lines, and Article Numbers are often useless there. Also, newsgroups aren't always updated immediately; sometimes there's a long lag, despite the fact that a peer ( e.g. Individual.NET ) always gets your posts immediately. My custom-built newsreader, Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM, keeps track of recently used message IDs, not Article Numbers; so switching servers is painless, no need to re-download newsgroups. My score file looks like this: Jeff-Relf.Me/Nyms.HTM Thunderbird is a fork of Firefox;, so it's _ extremely configurable to someone like me who's comfortable writing CSS ( to alter the user interface, webpages, and emails ) and JavaScript extensions. For me, it's nothing to pop into The Inspector and alter shit. By the way, Business Class Internet is the cheapest way to get (truly) unlimited gigabytes. Downloading 10 GigaByte videos, left and right, is nothing to me. ■ JimPennino ltoo8g-fdo.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 51045a90-32bd-408a-92c8-e7091d3f0af6@googlegroups.com nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ ea29b9db-c730-475a-9242-bec003bede0b@googlegroups.com EdProchak 72da32a5-f35f-4d99-adfa-06a1c2391ee7@googlegroups.com nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ f2dab6e2-f2c7-49c6-b5b1-5090d7fab3ce@googlegroups.com EdProchak 8e1f58c6-8bd6-428d-8166-36f1dba90cff@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.4--0.40am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 6 m17 Cool; 9 Hours, GoogleG, 72.16.96.162, Nov 3 { 3:19pm, 2019 }:50^(PST) XϽჯɮ Help Multi-Millionaires build mansions in a tinderbox. The world will not surrender its sovereignty to help multi-millionaires build mansions in a tinderbox. ■ SamWormley 8d9ba42b-701b-46b6-a5e0-934f052f913a@googlegroups.com nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ 523d21b6-2590-4db9-ab66-db6ca9856501@googlegroups.com JimPennino ltoo8g-fdo.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 51045a90-32bd-408a-92c8-e7091d3f0af6@googlegroups.com nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ ea29b9db-c730-475a-9242-bec003bede0b@googlegroups.com EdProchak 72da32a5-f35f-4d99-adfa-06a1c2391ee7@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.1--10.54am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 4 m11 Cool; 23.5 Hours, GoogleG, 65.36.54.181, Oct 31 { 11:16am, 2019 }:19^(PDT) XϻмБ The super-wealthy encroaching on national forests. California's fires are a direct result of the super-wealthy encroaching on national forests -- it's their problem, not mine. And, no, your Climate Apocalypse Cult has nothing to do with physics. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.1--10.37am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 The goal falls short of the reach. No one to follow, nothing to teach, except: " The goal falls short of the reach. ". -- Leonard Cohen, 2016, shortly before he died, age 82, from "Thanks for the Dance", to be released November 22, 2019. Cohen loved all religions. Like Jesus, he had a special love for the homeless and downtrodden. He was penniless at age 65, after a "friend" had stolen everything when he was in the monastery 1994-1999. Right from the start, he didn't care about money; so, naturally, he died rich and famous, age 82. ■ nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ 523d21b6-2590-4db9-ab66-db6ca9856501@googlegroups.com JimPennino ltoo8g-fdo.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 51045a90-32bd-408a-92c8-e7091d3f0af6@googlegroups.com nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ ea29b9db-c730-475a-9242-bec003bede0b@googlegroups.com EdProchak 72da32a5-f35f-4d99-adfa-06a1c2391ee7@googlegroups.com nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ f2dab6e2-f2c7-49c6-b5b1-5090d7fab3ce@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.1--2.43am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m17 Cool; 2.9 Hours, GoogleG, 172.242.254.97, Oct 31 { 11:36pm, 2019 }:56^(PDT) Xϼȸu Multi-Millionaires who build homes next to national forests. The world will not surrender its sovereignty to bailout multi-millionaires who build homes next to national forests. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--9.45pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty h1v8e7FnapU4@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--4.49am.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty h20gorFnapU13@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--10.21am.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty h20lgmFnapU17@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m44 Cool; 7.1 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 31 { 10:55am, 2019 }:34 Xϻйɞ Scott's 5 inch "leash". Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > I can't imagine what an itchy/burning brain feels like, sorry. > > Your Engrish lacks eloquence. > > it feels exactly like having jock itch of the brain > hope you don't have a fungus My brain is in my head, not between my legs. You're the one who lets a woman drag you around by your 5 inch "leash", not me. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ h1kqvoFq7fgU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--9.45pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty h1v8e7FnapU4@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--4.49am.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty h20gorFnapU13@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--10.21am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m41 Cool; 18.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 31 { 9:34am, 2019 }:35 XϻЫС An itchy/burning brain ? Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > When you write these, does your brain itch ? I can't imagine what an itchy/burning brain feels like, sorry. Your Engrish lacks eloquence. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ h1kqvoFq7fgU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--9.45pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty h1v8e7FnapU4@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.31--4.49am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 +-, 6.7 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Oct 30 { 10: 6pm, 2019 }:15 XϻʫF No one is dragging TechLead around by his leash/penis. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > TechLead's ex-wife bailed on him, taking "his" kid to Japan, > > when she realized she wouldn't get his (substantial) inheritance; > > so, now, he's sad because no one is dragging him around by his > > leash/penis. > > when you write these do you smell something burning ? Your house ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ h1kqvoFq7fgU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--9.45pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 No one is dragging TechLead around by his leash/penis. TechLead's ex-wife bailed on him, taking "his" kid to Japan, when she realized she wouldn't get his (substantial) inheritance; so, now, he's sad because no one is dragging him around by his leash/penis. It's why the "fertility rate" ( births per woman per lifetime ) is so low today, in the modern world -- it's why GDP growth is so low; and it explains why nominal interest rates are below zero; and why you see temp workers not getting ( nor wanting ) hours as their rents go up 7 percent each year, for 10 years, in Seattle, putting them out on the streets, making them thieving junkies, unwanted and detached, like rabid, stray dogs. ■ MsNadegda qp0lta$pbk$6@dont-email.me Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381e7da2e538ecfc1282@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qp2se6$5ts$4@dont-email.me Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381ea52b1b72ab91128a@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.00pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall mj5crelak2ddf2s7f74lr5umhd8hbftq6v@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--4.01pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m48 Dropped; 16 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Oct 27 { 3:16pm, 2019 }:35^(-4) XϹɦС You can't be rich without poor people. Greg replied ( to me ): > > If Ms Nadegda is unhappy with the weather in Arizona, > > she should move to Seattle, where it's milder. > > Same goes for those living in hurricane alley. > > I'd rather brave severe weather than > piles of excrement-n-needles on the streets. Examining the numbers, I believe Gary Shilling is right: We're in a recession right now, but it'll be over in a year or two. A year from now, they'll say that the recession began July 2019; for me, it began a year before then, thanks to artificially high rates. Officially, it'll end when short-term rates hit 0 (Zero), a more _ natural yield curve. Besides: You can't be rich without poor people. ■ MsNadegda qp0lta$pbk$6@dont-email.me Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381e7da2e538ecfc1282@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qp2se6$5ts$4@dont-email.me Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381ea52b1b72ab91128a@news.altopia.com Kensi qp33t5$1nsr$2@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381ec66a29c9075e1291@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m27 Cool; 16.6 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Oct 26 { 10: 9pm, 2019 }:38^(-7) Xϸбσ The "Green New Deal". Isn't the "Green New Deal" the one where everyone has to suck Kensi's clit ? ■ Kensi qp33oj$1nsr$1@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381ec389825c0849128d@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.22pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m27 Cool; 16.8 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Oct 26 { 9:57pm, 2019 }:17^(-7) XϸЯΧ Fuck Fox Island. Checkmate replied ( to Kensi ): > > Fox Island is sinking into Chesapeake Bay. > > ( Take climate change seriously ! ) > > This doesn't bode well for Hussein and Michael O'Bummer's > new $15 million dollar mansion on Martha's Vineyard... > what were they thinking ? Kensi and Michelle Obama want the entire world to surrender their sovereignty so they can enjoy their ( newly built ) beachfront property in peace. ■ Kensi qp0fb2$2hv$1@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381d6721b5b2baed127c@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qp0lta$pbk$6@dont-email.me Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381e7da2e538ecfc1282@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qp2se6$5ts$4@dont-email.me Checkmate_│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.381ea52b1b72ab91128a@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27--3.00pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m27 Cool; 19 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Oct 26 { 7:47pm, 2019 }:45^(-7) XϸЙყ A simpler solution. If Ms Nadegda is unhappy with the weather in Arizona, she should move to Seattle, where it's milder. Same goes for those living in hurricane alley. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--11.04pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Change-My-View... Change-My-View: (1) Any attempt to artificially raise short-term rates soon fails because a recession ensues. (2) Long-Term Interest Rates are market-driven, the Fed can't alter them. (3) Last 40 years, no one has generated a higher return than Gary Shilling, buying Zero-Coupon 30-year T-Bonds. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--1.06am.Seattle.2019 JohnGohde 60488f69-5e9e-40b3-b70d-b4ff9491e3f0@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--5.10am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall tlg1re9dnfm6r4no39bjms9tkssdhb8m7b@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--4.48pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m35 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Oct 23 { 2:17pm, 2019 }: 9^(-4) X϶νу Our "blood" (cash) isn't circulating properly. Greg replied ( to me ): > > Grandmas are getting tossed into the street; > > so an honest account of the _ true _ inflation rate > > would be a good place to start. > > Since when is it the right thing to do for families > to allow their grannies to be tossed out onto the streets ? > > Instead of taxpayers footing the bill, > how about making the families do so ? Right, this is why you don't see tent cities in China or Japan; Confucianism and Taoism still hold sway there. Seattle, on the other hand, is a hippie town, like San Francisco; so the word "family" has little meaning. > > Our "blood" ( cash, "The Velocity of MZM" ) > > isn't circulating properly; it's been dropping ever since 1981; see: > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Velocity.of.MZM.PNG > > It's morality and family values that've become increasingly feeble; > socialism is destroying the them. True, it produces what I call "stray dogs", detachment. However, not everyone wants to join the "Soviet/Chinese" religion, nor the "Climate Apocalypse" cult, nor Mormonism, nor hedonism, nor Alcoholics Anonymous, nor the "family values" bandwagon. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--1.06am.Seattle.2019 Simon_the_Senior│john_h_gohde 60488f69-5e9e-40b3-b70d-b4ff9491e3f0@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--5.10am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m50 Dropped; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, 96.238.176.170, Oct 23 { 2:14am, 2019 }:40^(PDT) X϶ɜʠ Grandmas are getting tossed into the street. John Gohde wrote: > Seattle City Council takes aim at its > homeless "navigation" (cleanup) team. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUNq5o_jvQ > The IMMORAL LEFT only want polices that fail miserably. Right before your income is too low to pay rent, the 6.8% annual increase in rents ( 2010-2018, Seattle ) is your inflation rate -- not the 1.2% increase that the government gives you, when you're on Social Security. Grandmas are getting tossed into the street; so an honest account of the _ true _ inflation rate would be a good place to start. Besides that, we need "Soviet" housing AND/OR "Nazi" police. Like I said, our society is becoming ever more feeble: "The Velocity of MZM" ( circulating cash ), is a measure of vitality, stamina, and youth; and it's been going down ever since 1981; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Velocity.of.MZM.PNG http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.23--1.06am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate "The Velocity of MZM" ( circulating cash ). "The Velocity of MZM" ( circulating cash ), is a measure of vitality, stamina, and youth; and it's been going down ever since 1981; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/The.Velocity.of.MZM.PNG It's worse in Europe and Japan ( compared to America ); it's better in Utah, due to its high "Fertility Rate". http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG Once upon a time, a young man was happy to spend money on "his" wife and kids, and money changed hands quickly. Today, this is no longer true, because battle-axes take "your" income, your dignity, and "your" kids. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--0.12pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Charlie Munger, Feb 14, 2019. Invest only where you have that extra knowledge. If that gets you a few opportunities, that’s enough. -- Charlie Munger, born January 1, 1924. You laugh, you young people, but you're going to live to wish Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump were immortal. -- Charlie Munger, Feb 14, 2019. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Oi3esiry8 ■ melzzzzz│mel@melzzzzz_com qo8lsp$rpv$1@news.albasani.net AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qo8rh9$ivo$1@dont-email.me melzzzzz│mel@melzzzzz_com qo8sbo$1hu$1@news.albasani.net AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qoa3td$bo4$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.17--11.14am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qob6u6$e11$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.17--10.12pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m28 Cool; 2.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 17 { 7:10pm, 2019 }:15^(-6) XϲГϽ "Soviet" housing and/or "Nazi" police. AnonLinuxUser replied ( to me ): > > Pockets of depression, tent cities. > > You are pretty much living in a communist city now! In "communist" countries dissidents are squashed, but housing is free. Seattle has plenty of dissidents but little housing. > Everything has changed over there... finally, sanity. Federal, state, and local governments are all lying about the inflation rate of the urban poor ( where rent exceeds one's income ) -- it's not 1.2%. Being honest about that would be a good start, as would "Soviet" housing and/or "Nazi" police. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--2.32pm.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qo8d1h$96q$4@gioia.aioe.org melzzzzz│mel@melzzzzz_com qo8lsp$rpv$1@news.albasani.net AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qo8rh9$ivo$1@dont-email.me melzzzzz│mel@melzzzzz_com qo8sbo$1hu$1@news.albasani.net AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qoa3td$bo4$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.17--11.14am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m93 Cool; 29.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 17 { 9:12am, 2019 }:27^(-6) XϲʢR Pockets of depression, tent cities. Communist Serbia abused dissenters. Trump may be our "Deadbeat in Chief" but at least we don't crack down on dissenters as much as Russian/Chinese gangsters. America entered a recession August, 2019, I think. The consumer Price Index _ wildly _ understates the inflation rate of poor urbanites. Rent defines the inflation rate for people on fixed incomes, part-time workers with few benefits, and contractors with no benefits. At some point, this "stealth" inflation makes it so that one can no longer pay rent; depression sets in, and one is removed from society, and placed in a shelter. For these people, the recession/depression has been going on for a long, long time -- hard and strong. Pockets of depression, tent cities. Hoping to cash in on this misery, Democrats are drooling over Amazon, imagining different ways to skewer it, for the feast. A high minimum-wage and high housing standards are snooty; they remove the lower rungs of the ladder, to keep "undesirables" out. ■ HerbertGlazier 317c528e-9aa7-4b16-a3c6-870e46c59061@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--3.33pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m148 Cool; 5.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Oct 16 { 9:43am, 2019 }:31^(PDT) XϱЭɛ Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. > What Came Before the BB ? Nothing; the closer you get to the start of the big bang, the slower the clock ticks and the longer the yardstick. In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.16--2.32pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate People are falling apart emotionally, not physically. People are falling apart emotionally, not physically. Hong Kong's depression, and China's jealousy/greed, is spreading to San Francisco & Seattle. Who is our moral guide ? Chairman Xi JinPing, the gangster ? Trump, the deadbeat ? Maybe Elizabeth Warren is right, and we should tax equity, not just real estate assets -- that'd pop a few bubbles. ■ SamWormley 3409f0ad-e3b9-4497-a331-b33f9d015806@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier 07df916d-74be-490a-a98f-8b4e368a1904@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--4.36pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╳ 5 m137 Cool; 2.7 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Oct 15 { 1:45pm, 2019 }:46^(PDT) Xϱɗϑ What would you do if you caught one ?! Herbert Glazier wrote: > Judge Field sees me about once a month. " You again ? " > Sandy went to the police saying I molested her. ( I did not ) > this was when I was running for City Council. You're like a dog chasing cars. What would you do if you caught one ?! ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--3.55pm.Seattle.2019 DFS RhRoF.45065$hB2.19808@fx42.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--9.24pm.Seattle.2019 DFS qrkpF.303602$oJ2.88578@fx46.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--1.46pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll e4cd1e58-9720-46c7-9b8e-044b2a9decf0@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m326 Mad; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, Oct 15 { 2:36pm, 2019 }:42^(PDT) Xϱɠg I shit into a soup ladle, and piss into a measuring cup. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > > Instead of trusting what's in the "References:" line, > > I re-build the (sub)thread, one MessageID at a time; > > experience taught me to do this. > > Did you write your own newsreader/writer app Yes, my newsreader, "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM", does it automatically. > > I wrote a C++ console > > Do you mean a C++ console *application*? No, I wrote my own console, "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM"; where you might use bash, or DOS commands, I use C++. For me ( not you ), it's just easier/better that way. > > I don't write frivolous routines using frivolous python. > > And JR swoops in with some whoop ass! ;) FAAMG companies haze potential hires by asking them to write frivolous code on the spot; DFS should be ashamed. > imgur.com/a/PrdQ4iW Vittles Vault I shit into a soup ladle, and piss into a measuring cup. Paper towels do the cleanup. It's a lot cheaper/nicer than renting a studio apartment. ■ DFS eXjpF.73307$Qz2.1281@fx03.iad HughHuntzinger 7e2b39ee-e4b5-4ab8-ac37-db7a081a8244@googlegroups.com MrChrisV khrbqedbejh8i1kg9vm48ngfsn5eoap054@4ax.com HughHuntzinger dc417537-9f22-4a2a-88e3-e6537757471b@googlegroups.com melzzzzz│mel@melzzzzz_com qo50a7$6aq$1@news.albasani.net HughHuntzinger 297cbbf2-f7f8-4f4e-9f38-9029f636a965@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--3.08pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m43 Cool; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18, Oct 15 { 11:10am, 2019 }:22^(PDT) XϱzД The Largest companies ( by market cap, in trillions of USD ). What does the share price indicate when companies buy back and/or issue new shares ? The Largest companies ( by market cap, in trillions of USD ), June 21, 2019: 1.050 Microsoft Seattle .943 Amazon Seattle .920 Apple San Francisco .778 Google San Francisco .546 Facebook San Francisco "FAAMG" ( Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, and Google ) had 801.5 $ billion in revenue last year, and 139 $ billion in net income. Before Microsoft and Bill Gates started taking over, Seattle's primary benefactor was Madame Lou Graham's estate. She established: " a discreet establishment for the 'silk-top-hat' set to indulge in good drink, lively political discussions and, upstairs, ribald pleasures -- all free to government representatives. " " More city business was transacted at Lou's than at City Hall. " " The Seattle Underground - The Hidden City ", 8 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsqRP0ualoI ■ SteveCarroll 3066102f-bc8e-4f95-a528-7639b5995749@googlegroups.com DFS vBMoF.6909$eW2.2706@fx25.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--3.55pm.Seattle.2019 DFS RhRoF.45065$hB2.19808@fx42.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--9.24pm.Seattle.2019 DFS qrkpF.303602$oJ2.88578@fx46.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.15--1.46pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, News.Software.Readers, Alt.Free.Newsservers ╱ 5 m183 Top; 5.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 15 { 7:10am, 2019 }:20^(-4) XϱLВ I don't write frivolous routines using frivolous python. DFS replied ( to me ): > your entire newsreader usage history. > 2003-07-05 start with Xnews on Windows That's the first time I posted from home, on my own computer, using a dial-up modem. I was posting 10+ years before then, using University computers. > 5. 1 posts: Thunderbird on Linux That wasn't me. > 49. 1 posts: Mozilla on Windows > 50. 27 posts: Relf Homegrown X on Windows > 51. 1 posts: Mozilla on Windows > 52. Last 33 posts: Relf Homegrown X on Windows > 8976 total posts > Last post made on 2019-10-14 0.2s I have posted using Mozilla before, as a test, but not as recently as 34 posts ( 11 days ) ago; so, again, it's a false positive. > 39. 1 posts: newsreader not provided by the References munger Yet another false positive. Simply checking for message IDs that contain "Relf" ( case-sensitive ) would give you a more accurate result. > your idiotic tendency to drop References. The only MessageID that you can+should trust is the most recent one; everything else is just fluff; threads drift, branch. Instead of trusting what's in the "References:" line, I re-build the (sub)thread, one MessageID at a time; experience taught me to do this. > > C++ works perfectly for me; > > I wouldn't touch Python with a 10 foot pole. > > Your loss. You have no idea, and I don't care to explain it; basically, I wrote a C++ console that can zoom in/out, using single-, double-, or triple- width glyphs. 4k Screenshots: Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/Chess.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/Super.Fast.Monopoly.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/Reversi.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/Solitair.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me/Mario.PNG > > I can ( and have ) written many C++ routines > > to parse .PDF files ( PostScript ), not just .CSV files. > > I don't consider it a challenge, I'm not here to impress you. > > Relf severely pwned by DFS > C++ severely pwned by python Dream on. Unlike you, I don't write frivolous routines using frivolous python. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--11.42am.Seattle.2019 DFS 53LoF.45324$XA2.21955@fx05.iad SteveCarroll 3066102f-bc8e-4f95-a528-7639b5995749@googlegroups.com DFS vBMoF.6909$eW2.2706@fx25.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--3.55pm.Seattle.2019 DFS RhRoF.45065$hB2.19808@fx42.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--9.24pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m172 Top; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 13 { 7:46pm, 2019 }:14^(-4) XϰRϼ No "decent" apps are written in Python. DFS replied ( to me ): > > No one uses Python to create a full-size app. > > Quit channeling that nincompoop Feeb. After you, you evangelist. No "decent" apps are written in Python. I'm not begging for your attention, as you claim, far from it; I'm just telling you how I feel about it. The best BitTorrent app, qBitTorrent, is written in C++; it has an optional search engine, written in Python, but it sucks, big time -- it can't sort by date. > The program I use to retrieve and post Usenet articles to my relational > db is 100% python, as are most of the analysis and reporting routines. I don't have any problem with that, nor do I desire to use your program. I have my own, superior methods. > You should try Python, dude. C++ works perfectly for me; I wouldn't touch Python with a 10 foot pole. > I notice you [so far] ran away from writing a > C++ routine to read in a .csv file. > Why haven't you attempted it? I can ( and have ) written many C++ routines to parse .PDF files ( PostScript ), not just .CSV files. I don't consider it a challenge, I'm not here to impress you. ■ FabianRussell qnvh8k0emr@news3.newsguy.com DFS 3vIoF.43930$KB2.19600@fx02.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--11.42am.Seattle.2019 DFS 53LoF.45324$XA2.21955@fx05.iad SteveCarroll 3066102f-bc8e-4f95-a528-7639b5995749@googlegroups.com DFS vBMoF.6909$eW2.2706@fx25.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--3.55pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m171 Top; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 13 { 2:24pm, 2019 }: 5^(-4) Xϡნ5 No one uses Python to create a full-size app. No one uses Python to create a full-size app. I'm not asking for your reply, DFS, I'm just stating a fact. ■ FabianRussell qnvh8k0emr@news3.newsguy.com DFS 3vIoF.43930$KB2.19600@fx02.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.13--11.42am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m166 Top; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 13 { 9:44am, 2019 }:43^(-4) XϡЭʣ Python's white-space enforcement is insane. Python's white-space enforcement is insane; it might work for tiny routines, if you're not much of a programmer, but no sane person would use it to create a full-sized app. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--8.07pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate The freshly-printed-money tsunami isn't reaching the poorest. When you are as poor as I am, in North Seattle, your inflation rate was 6.8%/year, 2010-2018, due to the rental price increase. How much further will it go up, given today's massive, sustained "quantitative easing" ? This freshly-printed-money tsunami isn't reaching the poorest; like a diabetic, the end result is "amputation" ( detachment ), i.e. "strays" ( thieving junkies ). Before long, we can no longer afford rent; so we move into a tent city, a shelter, an "enhanced shelter", or a "tiny house village". A high minimum-wage and high housing standards are snooty; they remove the lower rungs of the ladder, to keep "undesirables" out. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--0.56am.Seattle.2019 DFS qEJnF.117555$LC2.85008@fx45.iad FabianRussell qno7aj0kh9@news2.newsguy.com Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-A267D1.15071610102019@reader.eternal-september.org DFS 2t%nF.75202$iJ2.7869@fx47.iad Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-27869E.08282511102019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.11--10.01am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m9 Dropped; 1.2 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 11 { 8:28am, 2019 }:34^(-7) XϠʚР memmove( z, x, sizeof x ); Siri Cruise, Are you a female programmer/Scientologist ? Do you program for Windows too, or just Macs ? Siri wrote: > The first law of discordiamism: The more energy > to make order is nore energy made into entropy. "nore" ? In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun. ■ . lF%mF.108280$LC2.8395@fx45.iad . Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--0.56am.Seattle.2019 . qEJnF.117555$LC2.85008@fx45.iad . qno7uc1kh9@news2.newsguy.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--3.43pm.Seattle.2019 MrAA 1571994b-4dd6-4be8-8a00-3fbe404fbf9f@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--4.04pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m26 Top; 1.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Oct 10 { 3:51pm, 2019 }:47^(PDT) Xϟცϒ Asset bubbles make people horny, stupid. Mr. AA replied ( to me ): > > Everyone ( from the homeless junkie to the central bank ) > > has gone insane, animalistic, immoral, detached. > > The homeless are no different than anyone else, > except they're homeless. Thieving junkies steal shit; and they're quite horny. They're much, MUCH more dangerous than those with money/sanity. When elephants mate, the grass gets trampled. Maybe that's it, maybe that's why everyone is nuts, asset bubbles make people horny, stupid. ■ DFS lF%mF.108280$LC2.8395@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--0.56am.Seattle.2019 DFS qEJnF.117555$LC2.85008@fx45.iad FabianRussell qno7uc1kh9@news2.newsguy.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--3.43pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m284 Dropped; 17.6 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM➤NewsGuy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Oct 10 { 2:30pm, 2019 }:52 Xϟოq Insane, Animalistic, Immoral, Detached. Fabian wrote: > That Jeff-Ass deserves to get annihilated. > I'd love to see ghetto dwellers pulverize his lame ass. Four homeless men, including "Uncle [Chuen] Kwok", 83, were beaten to death with a three-foot, 15-pound metal bar last Saturday, in Chinatown, 1:30am, New York city. Randy Rodriguez Santos, 24, had a long history of violence and drug use before he was charged with the murders, Sunday. Some of it was caught on video; the police caught him, weapon in hand. Himself homeless, he bounced from a shelter in Brooklyn to his mother's apartment in the Bronx and even to a squalid, abandoned building next door to her building. He broke his grandfather's nose in 2016, and sneaked into the family's home last week and stole a watch, a phone and three phone chargers. Why does homelessness/theft/violence/drug-use increase in the years before an asset-bubble bursts ? Everyone ( from the homeless junkie to the central bank ) has gone insane, animalistic, immoral, detached. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Sell.PNG ■ DFS lF%mF.108280$LC2.8395@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--0.56am.Seattle.2019 DFS qEJnF.117555$LC2.85008@fx45.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--11.17am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m148 Top; 44.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 10 { 10:13am, 2019 }: 6^(-4) Xϟвȸ "memcpy()" is a special case INSIDE "memmove()". DFS quoted: > " In general, USE memmove only if you have to. USE it when > there is a very reasonable chance that the source and destination > regions are over-lapping. " > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28623895/why-is-memmove-faster-than-memcpy Why worry about whether memory overlaps or not ? What's the point ? "memcpy()" is a special case INSIDE "memmove()". "memmove()" contains SSE optimized assembler code; so it's faster. Even if it wasn't ALWAYS faster, the difference is too minor. ■ DFS 6manF.37430$MT2.23639@fx18.iad DFS W1qnF.42919$hB2.29719@fx42.iad FabianRussell qnlodm02keq@news2.newsguy.com SteveCarroll 62727cdb-e675-4180-bc7b-c64619b7dd03@googlegroups.com FabianRussell qnn485124g8@news1.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qnnd3t$qru$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--7.47am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m257 Mad; 35.4 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 10 { 6:53am, 2019 }: 1 XϟАл If Fabian wrote JavaScript macros/extensions... If Fabian wrote JavaScript macros/extensions, he might earn enough to leave his mom's basement. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--5.13am.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ duo37g-2ka.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--7.38am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m70 Cool; 48.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Oct 10 { 6:39am, 2019 }:57^(2) XϟϾϝ "Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10" is people. If it wasn't for you, Carlos, few would ever see my posts. So, to express my gratitude, I'll answer your question. Q. Why did I post "America has diabetes" to "Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10" ? A. Because "Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10" is people; real people, who I know and love. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.10--5.13am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate America has diabetes. . America is diabetic; the money supply isn't reaching the foot soldiers; if this keeps up, its foot soldiers will be amputated. A high minimum-wage and high housing standards are snooty; they remove the lower rungs of the ladder. ■ DFS lF%mF.108280$LC2.8395@fx45.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.9--0.56am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m142 Top; 18.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Oct 8 { 5:53am, 2019 }:33^(-4) XϞʀმ memmove( z, x, sizeof x ); DFS asked Feeb: > Can you improve this simple C code ? char *x = "17DeMoz", *y = "AcpSx" ; char *z = (char *)malloc( sizeof x + sizeof y ); memmove( z, x, sizeof x ); memmove( z + sizeof x - 1, y, sizeof y ); printf( "%s", z ); ■ Kensi qnh1bj$1rnc$1@gioia.aioe.org Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ h02vplFkvq7U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--2.39am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m29 Top; 1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Oct 8 { 1:30am, 2019 }:44^(11) XϞɕi It's a battle; sometimes CO2 breathers gain ground. Sylvia told Kensi: > Be careful what you wish for. In the past, > plants have sucked so much carbon dioxide out of the air > that they've plunged the planet into such cold > that it barely recovered with life intact. It's a battle; sometimes CO2 breathers gain ground; other times, atmospheric oxygen consumers take the lead. ■ . ckqcpetivfvn064f59fa64i8ms7mjim6jr@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--3.02pm.Seattle.2019 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qn64m9$np2$1@gioia.aioe.org nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 031020192048483956%nospam@nospam.invalid Mark_Lloyd│not@mail_invalid GHMlF.8646$MV2.7668@fx27.iad HerbertGlazier d35b435f-6397-4069-b60b-630a49004f23@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.5--4.52pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 14 m137 Cool; 1.8 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Oct 5 { 2:49pm, 2019 }:44^(PDT) XϜσɨ My desktop PC is Air Force One, redesigned. Your HP Chromebook is a rusty tricycle, Bert; my desktop PC is Air Force One, redesigned. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.4--9.35am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate There's a 71% chance of a recession in the next 12 months. 60% of U.S. CFOs believe that the U.S. will be in a recession by Q3 2020; 84% of CIOs/CFOs believe that a recession will begin by Q3 2021. There's a 71% chance of a recession in the next 12 months, according to the Fed's "logistic regression model". Google and Berkshire Hathaway are holding bizarre levels of cash. Warren Buffett hoards cash in the years before a recession; to him, a few years of underperformance ( holding cash ) is nothing compared to the opportunities he'll have when the recession hits. Sell ■ R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4amg$1ugt$1@gioia.aioe.org wasbit│wasbitREMOVE@hotmail_ qn73ln$f9h$1@dont-email.me R_Wieser│address@not_available qn78ds$1pck$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.4--5.58am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Microsoft.Public.Windowsxp.General, Alt.Windows7.General ╱ 1 m9 Cool; 25.6 Minutes, Outlook, POSTED.WIgm➤Aioe.ORG, Oct 4 { 3:50am, 2019 }: ^(2) Xϛϓɸ Using THE NUMERIC KEYPAD, I can enter any Unicode glyph. R_Wieser wrote: > I have to find a character which will > place a file at the end of the list. > And /preferrably/ one I can also enter by keyboard. '乂' ( Pinyin "Yi", U+4e42 ). Using THE NUMERIC KEYPAD, I can enter any Unicode glyph; see: ; Requires a ReBoot [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method] "EnableHexNumpad"="1" Press and hold-down the Alt key. Press the + (plus) key on THE NUMERIC KEYPAD. Type the hexidecimal unicode value ( 4e42 ); decimal digits MUST be typed using THE NUMERIC KEYPAD. Release the Alt key. ....but I'd never do it that way; instead, I'd create a speech command ( Nuance Dragon Professional ) or put it on my custom keyboard ( Hot Virtual Keyboard ): http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com ckqcpetivfvn064f59fa64i8ms7mjim6jr@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--3.02pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m7 Cool; 3 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 3 { 2:41pm, 2019 }:38^(10) Xϛɠრ A PC loses half of its value each year. Peter Jason asked: > I have retired my 9 yo computer after many troublesome > adventures with faulty Sata sockets and/or a worn-out motherboard. > > What is a reasonable life expectancy for > an off-the-shelf computer these days ? A PC loses half of its value each year. After 9 years, it's lost 99.8% ( 1-.5^9 ) of its value; inflation devalues it further. ■ R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4amg$1ugt$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--1.57am.Seattle.2019 R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4otd$3p7$1@gioia.aioe.org Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qn4r03$ipn$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--6.41am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Microsoft.Public.Windowsxp.General, Alt.Windows7.General ╱ 1 m52 Cool; 28.2 Minutes, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Oct 3 { 5:52am, 2019 }:19^(-4) Xϛ8Б An update to File Explorer is long past due. File Explorer uses multiple fonts to display UTF-8 encoded file names; it doesn't rely on just one font, as a "distro" might. Sadly, there is no way to zoom in/out. An update to File Explorer is long past due. Launching "CharMap" ( from a DOS prompt ), "Advanced View", "Character Set", gives you access to all the glyphs. Mayayana wrote: > My favorite coding font is Verdana. I prefer the "OCR A" font; like this: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual.Studio.2019.PNG > I use "aa" to make sure a file or folder sorts to the top of a folder. Every number and/or symbol comes before 'a'. > Wouldn't it be easiest to just use "zz" Yes, most definitely; but '乂' ( Pinyin "Yi", U+4E42 ) looks cooler. ■ R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4amg$1ugt$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--1.57am.Seattle.2019 R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4otd$3p7$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--6.18am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Microsoft.Public.Windowsxp.General, Alt.Windows7.General ╱ 2 m4 Cool; 28.1 Minutes, Outlook, POSTED.WIgm➤Aioe.ORG, Oct 3 { 5:17am, 2019 }:40^(2) Xϛ2ტ Pinyin "Yi" ( U+4E42 ) is a "letter" (ideograph). R_Wieser replied ( to me ): > > In File Explorer, Win10, "letters" are always last, English first. > > '乂' ( Pinyin "Yi", U+4E42 ) is a "letter" (ideograph); > > it means "to mow" or strike down. > > Any idea how I, in "windows explorer" enter that into filename ? Google says: Press and hold down the Alt key. Press the + (plus) key ON THE NUMERIC KEYPAD. Type the hexidecimal unicode value. Release the Alt key. > Was there any reason you added "comp.os.linux.advocacy" Because I know people there, and because some "distro" might provide further insight. ■ R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4amg$1ugt$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--1.57am.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-4FBB99.04052203102019@reader.eternal-september.org Java_Jive│java@evij_com_ qn4mi5$1n5p$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--5.02am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Microsoft.Public.Windowsxp.General, Alt.Windows7.General ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 15.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Oct 3 { 4:37am, 2019 }:41^(1) XϚჲɥ In File Explorer, Win10, "letters" are always last, English first. In File Explorer, Win10, "letters" are always last, English first. '乂' ( Mandarin, pronounced "Yi" ) is a "letter", by the way; it means "to mow" or strike down. ■ R_Wieser│address@not_available qn4amg$1ugt$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--1.57am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Microsoft.Public.Windowsxp.General, Alt.Windows7.General ╱ 1 m2 Cool; 6.4 Minutes, Outlook, POSTED.WIgm➤Aioe.ORG, Oct 3 { 1:14am, 2019 }:42^(2) XϚაʢ Omega ( U+03A9 ) is sorted "last" ( after 'z' ). R_Wieser asked: > I'm in the need for a filename that will be, > in "windows explorer", sorted /after/ all the ones > starting with letter symbols ( for non-important, > but still easy-to-reach files ). 'Ω' ( Omega, U+03A9 ) is sorted "last" ( after 'z' ); any Japanese, Korean, Greek or Cyrillic letter also works. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--4.51am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qmto9b$fom$66@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--5.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kensi qmuh5i$v7n$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--9.04pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m14 Dropped; 27.4 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 30 { 8:28pm, 2019 }:48^(2) XϙʚЮ GenZ is following my advice. Kensi replied ( to me ): > > Don't fuck people. > > Don't get married, and don't have kids. > > You're just saying that out of sour grapes, > because nobody wants to fuck you. *snigger* GenZ is following my advice; no grapes ( or red herrings ) involved. The smartest people in the world, "The Asian Tigers", have a "fertility rate" of .98 kids per woman per lifetime. Replacement level is 2.08 kids. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--4.51am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qmto9b$fom$66@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--5.16pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate -Dropped, 3.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 30 { 1:24pm, 2019 }:11 XϙɔB Don't get married, and don't have kids. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > The housing crisis is due to: > > - A lack of "Nazi police" and/or "Soviet housing". > > Fascism alert. And/Or communism -- anything but dumping it on me, the public. The UnBanked don't care about asset prices, nor (unpaid) rent; they just want their drugs, and they don't care who they have to "fuck" to get it. > > Child support is based on what a man _ should _ make ( fiction ), > > if he were "up right" -- actual income is irrelevant; > > and not one penny of the past-due amounts are forgivable. > > > > Squirt now, pay later. > > Then wear a condom, you dumbass. Don't fuck people, smart ass. Don't get married, and don't have kids. ■ Brian_Dee│skills4uifuwant ulb1pelc42ol06q66jgomb3f58f1ipt2pp@4ax.com Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ mvl76g-15n.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Cybe_R_Wizard│cybe_r_wizard 20190929202521.06f5ca2c@WizardsTower Brian_Dee│skills4uifuwant o9n2pep5ee6bhhm05jp1vkthlq2kttithj@4ax.com Cybe_R_Wizard│cybe_r_wizard 20190929210654.6f50813b@WizardsTower ScottDoty gvdbpiF4ipgU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--5.19am.Seattle.2019 Alt.OS.Linux, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m73 Cool; 8.4 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 29 { 8:40pm, 2019 }:34 XϘТР FlatFish++ Scott Doty wrote: > when [ FlatFish++ ] isn't trolling the USENET, > she sits on the couch and watches the rain -- alone, > hugging her knees, with a glass of cheap chardonnay. I doubt she's alone in her brand-new "New York" seaside mansion. Also, I doubt she drinks "cheap" Chardonnay. She seldom posts here, by the way. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.30--4.51am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Squirt now, pay later. With negative interest rates ( after inflation ), and Trump calling for negative nominal rates ( all maturities ), and few viable alternatives, FDIC-insured banks are poised to fail. Trump is _ not _ a fiscal conservative, far from it; in fact, he's kinda fond of bankruptcies. The world is printing money like never before; but it's inflating asset prices, not The Consumer Price Index. Today's balance sheets are pure fiction. The UnBanked don't care about asset prices, nor (unpaid) rent; they just want their drugs, and they don't care who they have to "fuck" to get it. The housing crisis is due to: - Too many strays, undesirables. No family values. Child support is based on what a man _ should _ make ( fiction ), if he were "up right" -- actual income is irrelevant; and not one penny of the past-due amounts are forgivable. Squirt now, pay later. - People are moving into cities too fast. - Not enough micro-apartments. - A lack of "Nazi police" and/or "Soviet housing". Monetary policy is merely a reaction to these problems, above. ■ . qmp90q$18cm$1@gioia.aioe.org . gvandhFib1kU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--9.18pm.Seattle.2019 Kensi qmpbf9$1i87$1@gioia.aioe.org Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gvb0n8Fk2n5U2@mid.individual.net MsNadegda qmrbui$fom$41@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--4.52pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m40 Dropped; 19.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 29 { 3:41pm, 2019 }:23 XϘϑბ I like Sylvia Else. Ms Nadegda replied ( to Sylvia ): > > there are some legitimate concerns that [ Greta's ] mental limitations > > are being exploited by others to further their own agenda. > > which right wing kook's concern-trolling sockpuppet are you ? I think Sylvia Else lives in Forestville Sydney Australia, owns a Tesla, and speaks Portuguese, French, German and Spanish. She seems to be a bit of a physicist ( hence "Sci.Physics" ), electrical engineer, and (maybe) a programmer. The degree to which her and I agree is spooky. I don't think she likes me, but I like her. ■ . qmp90q$18cm$1@gioia.aioe.org . gvandhFib1kU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--9.18pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qmpp3j$5e9$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.29--1.48am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m23 Top; 14.2 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 29 { 1:13am, 2019 }:38^(-4) XϘɒɢ Enjoy the Kool-Aid. Paul wrote: > Now, a coal plant we closed here was 4 [ GigaWatts ], > and we considered that to be a pretty large site. > And the Chinese are adding fifty sites that big to their system. Where is "here", Australia ? > Greta got it right. That's what infinite growth looks like. > No amount of mitigation will make a dent in that. Enjoy the ride. Greta has been brainwashed. People LOVE their "climate apocalypse" cult, and HATE the truth. Joe Biden broke the law; he literally FORCED Ukraine to lay off his son. That's nepotism. Corruption, Third World style. Trump didn't force anyone; at worst, he asked if Ukraine might enforce the law. Yet the mainstream media ( e.g. Saturday Night Live, Jimmy Fallon, Bill Maher, Jimmy Kimmel, and Conan ) sincerely believe that it was Trump who broke the law, not Joe Biden. Amazing, wide-spread delusion. Enjoy the Kool-Aid. ■ Kensi qmp90q$18cm$1@gioia.aioe.org Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gvandhFib1kU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--9.18pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 1 m30 Top; 21.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Sep 28 { 8:40pm, 2019 }:33^(10) XϘaП Everyone wants to give up, to stop trying. Greta Thunberg needs a psychiatrist. Everyone wants to give up, to stop trying; this is why " The Climate Apocalypse " Kool-Aid is so popular. Also, would someone please tell Bill Maher: Today, nearly a quarter of all electricity produced in Germany still comes from burning lignite, often called brown coal, one of the dirtiest fossil fuels, making Germany the world's leader in the mining and burning of lignite, according to the International Energy Agency. -- NYTimes.COM ■ Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ 3v9toe549hn3i6k9ttsddbv407vbkn4b99@4ax.com TheSnitBot gv7o6pFu11oU1@mid.individual.net Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ v3otoe9jphqdlubs9r1pfia63ocn738bgn@4ax.com TheSnitBot gv86mmF29v7U2@mid.individual.net Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ 98euoe9q909vs6fr6hjh5u3l2icoads0ne@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 837a60ec-9263-476a-8398-de681694ae28@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--4.50am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m61 Cool; 19.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 173.54.111.20, Sep 28 { 4:10am, 2019 }: 9^(PDT) XϗϗϷ If you build a house on the seashore... Seattle used to be under a glacier; then, the oceans were low enough that humans were able to migrate to there from Asia. If you build a house on the seashore, it's _ your _ responsibility to handle the consequences; you shouldn't expect the world to surrender its sovereignty for you. Were it not for carbon dioxide, we'd suffocate, because oceanic photosynthesis couldn't produce atmospheric oxygen. Near as I can tell, the Democrats are about: 1. Impeaching Trump. 2. Breaking immigration laws. 3. Trillion dollar giveaways. 4. Smoking pot. 5. Drinking the "climate apocalypse" Kool-Aid. 6. "Killing" the rich. 7. Nepotism ( Joe Biden ). ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--10.04pm.Seattle.2019 Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ m2nroe1f1r5uo1ld2daet5v2tjdvfkkd0g@4ax.com TheSnitBot gv7oalFu11oU3@mid.individual.net Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ euntoed6sjnjpeqp2hcvcjfs7lft13mcig@4ax.com TheSnitBot gv86shF29v7U4@mid.individual.net Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ jtduoelruug7jtkm0m8pmbb2gahhu8h8s2@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.28--4.28am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m29 Shifty; 28.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM, Sep 28 { 3:37am, 2019 }:23^(12) Xϗϑɓ Net, the Amazon doesn't contribute to atmospheric oxygen. Snit wrote: > > A good portion of [ atmospheric oxygen ] comes from the Amazon. > > Before I said 20%... but I have since looked it up and it is lower: > > most sources putting it between 5 and 10% (6% seems the most common). " The Amazon’s net contribution to the oxygen we breathe likely hovers around zero. " http://NationalGeographic.COM/environment/2019/08/why-amazon-doesnt-produce-20-percent-worlds-oxygen/ The warmer it is, and the greater the carbon dioxide, the more oceanic photosynthesis produces atmospheric oxygen. Were it not for carbon dioxide, we'd suffocate. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--10.04pm.Seattle.2019 Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ m2nroe1f1r5uo1ld2daet5v2tjdvfkkd0g@4ax.com TheSnitBot gv7oalFu11oU3@mid.individual.net Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ euntoed6sjnjpeqp2hcvcjfs7lft13mcig@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--9.48pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty gv88btF1r52U3@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.09pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m73 Cool; 45.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 27 { 10:11pm, 2019 }:25 Xϗʫდ Were it not for carbon dioxide, we'd suffocate. Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > > All of the oxygen we breathe came from oceanic photosynthesis; > > none of it came from the Amazon. > > Relf's bizarro world is very bizarre. Next time they let you use Google, try searching for: Where does atmospheric oxygen come from ? EarthSky.ORG: Most of this oxygen comes from tiny ocean plants -- called phytoplankton -- that live near the water's surface and drift with the currents. Like all plants, they photosynthesize -- that is, they use sunlight and carbon dioxide to make food. A byproduct of photosynthesis is oxygen. The warmer it is, and the greater the carbon dioxide, the more oxygen is released into the atmosphere. Were it not for carbon dioxide, we'd suffocate. ■ Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ o02roe1mj7iv2d92cmmgef4vm9mg2ghenc@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qmk46o$hgu$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--10.04pm.Seattle.2019 Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ m2nroe1f1r5uo1ld2daet5v2tjdvfkkd0g@4ax.com TheSnitBot gv7oalFu11oU3@mid.individual.net Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ euntoed6sjnjpeqp2hcvcjfs7lft13mcig@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--9.48pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m89 Cool; 17.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM, Sep 27 { 9:22pm, 2019 }:52^(12) Xϗʣв All of the oxygen we breathe came from oceanic photosynthesis. All of the oxygen we breathe came from oceanic photosynthesis; none of it came from the Amazon. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--11.21pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f76a356b751612dec@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.40am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f7dd214abdce7edf3@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.09am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 29lsoeldu7vg4bnh7ofjj9b4n5bau99q1s@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.31pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m83 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 27 { 11:31am, 2019 }: 9^(-4) XϗȷȻ Tenga "Could've saved me two houses and my retirement." Greg replied ( to me ): > > 128 reviews on the 75 $ White Tenga Flip Zero: > > http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC > > LOL, Jeff, your review is at the very top. Attaboy. Yeah, I'm #2; 15 people found it "helpful". Lots of interesting reviews; like: Lube, insert, slurp slurp slurp, gasp, eyes roll back into head, fall asleep. Wash, rinse, repeat. ... The Bomb.COM, way better than the ladies and, after you're done, you don't have to listen to it gripe either. Could've saved me two houses and my retirement. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--11.21pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f76a356b751612dec@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.40am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f7dd214abdce7edf3@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.09am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall cvksoe5cnl93cdddcres9iou7ekisl79v8@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--1.43pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m83 Dropped; 1.9 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 27 { 11:27am, 2019 }: 9^(-4) XϗȶΞ If sex isn't dirty, you're not doing it right. Greg replied ( to me ): > > Vaseline is the best lubricant. > > I decided to not use Vaseline when you said buy > LOTS of paper towels to clean up with. > > So I got some LuLu water-based lube personal lube instead. > Easy and fast clean up using only warm water. If sex isn't dirty, you're not doing it right. -- Woody Allen, paraphrased. Most-Everyone prefers water-based lubricants. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2019 SamWormley 6fe53cc7-04b3-484c-8b03-5feecc79f63a@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.27am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m827 Dropped; 16.5 Minutes, GoogleG, Sep 27 { 11: 2am, 2019 }: 3^(PDT) Xϗyɻ You call it a "smart phone", I call it a "dumb terminal". Sam Wormley wrote: > Smart phone users who are smart enough to protect > their privacy don't use apps from Facebook, Microsoft [...] You call it a "smart phone", I call it a "dumb terminal". Android is a Google product, Apple is another frat. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f742bec0bfa0a0de4@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--11.21pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f76a356b751612dec@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.40am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f7dd214abdce7edf3@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--11.09am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m156 Cool; 55.1 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 27 { 9:48am, 2019 }: 8^(-7) Xϗm8 I don't need their approval. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > What did she want, a bigger house and more opiates ? > > Bigger house for sure, which I agreed to. > That was going to make her "happy". > > Then she arranged for her parents to move from the > Philippines into the bigger house with us. Surprise ! > > She never discussed that with me, > but that wasn't the Final Straw... 325 reviews on the 75 $ White Tenga Flip Zero: http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC Vaseline is the best lubricant. Or you could house, feed, educate, and medicate her and her extended family for the rest of your life. Personally, I don't need their approval; I'd rather read, watch videos, and post to USENET. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f742bec0bfa0a0de4@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--11.21pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f76a356b751612dec@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--2.40am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 1 m355 Mad; 52.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 27 { 1:37am, 2019 }:47^(-7) Xϖეɫ What did she want ? Checkmate wrote: > My Asian ex-wife was a NAG, > so after many warnings over ten years, > out the door, I went. I won't tolerate a nagger. What did she want, a bigger house and more opiates ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f742bec0bfa0a0de4@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--11.21pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m152 Cool; 27.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 26 { 10:49pm, 2019 }:20^(-7) Xϖиɐ Asian girls will pussy-whip you, big time. Checkmate wrote: > I'd love to par-tay with some hawt Asian wimmin. Asian girls will pussy-whip you, big time. I'd rather watch YouTube videos and post to USENET. ■ Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ jkunoe9kddkl5sakg0rtqcisqvccdjb00f@4ax.com Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmhqmj$tjv$1@dont-email.me Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ sbvooed853ludft2pbh6mjp0sajt812mi6@4ax.com MrChrisV 8oapoe5tee6kd46188junp2649tjrajdhd@4ax.com Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ o02roe1mj7iv2d92cmmgef4vm9mg2ghenc@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qmk46o$hgu$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--10.04pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m15 Top; 2.8 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 26 { 9:46pm, 2019 }:18^(-4) XϖЭА Our oxygen comes from the ocean, not rain forests. Paul, Our oxygen comes from the ocean, not rain forests. Rain Forests are important for their biodiversity, potential medicines, and the like. The greater the warmth, rain, and CO2, the more they thrive; and with that comes increased forest fires. Hurricanes aren't new; what's new is all the people in their path. You might surrender your sovereignty to help them, but that doesn't mean everyone else is willing to "drink the Kool-Aid". ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--9.40pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Facebook, Microsoft, and Google are fraternities. Facebook, Microsoft, and Google are fraternities, complete with hazing, abuse of (perpetual) newbies, and drunken sex parties. Most of their employees are Asian. If they don't work 80 hours per week, they could easily lose their house, their wife, their kids, their dignity, and the right to live in America. ■ AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qmh6kv$54e$1@dont-email.me Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmhqml$tjv$3@dont-email.me AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qmiqv5$qs0$1@dont-email.me Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmj2l3$cvd$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger cc3e31e8-8665-4afb-a257-878f1dc821aa@googlegroups.com AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qmj7pj$d3m$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.26--2.07pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Alt.OS.Linux, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m98 Cool; 2.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 26 { 1:41pm, 2019 }:23^(-6) Xϖηბ Ignorance/Randomness/StringTheory can be used to "prove" anything. In no way does Quantum entanglement imply something is moving faster than light. Ignorance/Randomness/StringTheory can be used to "prove" anything; whatever your little heart desires. The standard interpretation of quantum mechanics is: Shut Up and Calculate; i.e. don't ASSUME bizarre crap like faster-than-light communication and/or infinite universes spawning infinitely fast. ■ dhjoubert@gmail_com 73963067-b422-4a3f-bd15-049b4041250f@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gv0rfvFg2b8U1@mid.individual.net dhjoubert@gmail_com 977a1e94-0819-471a-8eb8-2b47c3111faa@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.25--11.30pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 18.6 Hours, GoogleG, 104.194.218.200, Sep 25 { 4:15am, 2019 }:43^(PDT) XϕϘψ String theory is random. "dark energy" is entropy. "dark matter" is vacuum energy. String theory is random; you could use it to predict "The Flying Spaghetti Monster", if you were so inclined. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.58am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f4260e8cadf893d43@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--3.52pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f44f02255c446cd45@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--5.29pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f538455836025ed72@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.25--3.08pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m158 Cool; 2.8 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 25 { 9:40am, 2019 }:13^(-7) XϕЬϻ Punching "panels" ? Checkmate replied ( to me ): > I have a trademark for my panel punching business. Why are you punching "panels" ? ■ SteveCarroll qmbe34$lks$1@dont-email.me DFS PxtiF.338020$la1.157576@fx33.iad SteveCarroll qmdrqu$ii$2@dont-email.me ScottDoty gv0nf2FeroiU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.25--2.27am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qmfv9u$7c8$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.25--3.04pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 14 m169 Mad; 4.5 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 25 { 7:58am, 2019 }: 6 XϕЛϴ " Too much love is worse than no love. " -- Billie Eilish. > > "Bury a Friend" ( Live, Radio 1's Big Weekend, 2019 ): > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UAOqtoZiLs > > << There's just something about a sea of people chanting > " I want to end me " >> With so many voices in our heads, it's hard to give a shit; or, as Billie puts it, " Too much love is worse than no love. ". A better version of the song ( from Jimmy Kimmel Live! 2019 ), 11 million views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVc4kayC9bo ■ ScottDoty gusl08Fdu6hU11@mid.individual.net SteveCarroll qmbe34$lks$1@dont-email.me DFS PxtiF.338020$la1.157576@fx33.iad SteveCarroll qmdrqu$ii$2@dont-email.me ScottDoty gv0nf2FeroiU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.25--2.27am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m66 Top; 15.2 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 25 { 1:40am, 2019 }: 2 Xϕηϰ "Bad Guy" by 17-year-old Billie Eilish, 2019. Check out "Bad Guy" by 17-year-old Billie Eilish, 2019. She's got an interesting GenZ vibe, electronic instruments. "Bury a Friend" ( Live, Radio 1's Big Weekend, Middlesbrough 2019 ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UAOqtoZiLs ■ JimPennino 722q5g-faj.ln1@mail.specsol.com whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net qmdnqs$dkd$1@dont-email.me JimPennino gk7q5g-pqj.ln1@mail.specsol.com whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net qme16p$agk$1@dont-email.me JimPennino q1fq5g-5jk.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 9e407a07-62f9-40f2-9316-a68c529553e8@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.36pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m52 Top; 47.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.130.68.115, Sep 24 { 9:36pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT) Xϕʦv UUCP USENET ( 1985 ? ). Jim Pennino: > > I was a UUCP leaf node well before USENET was accessible via TCP/IP > > and before Al Gore invented the Internet. I had access to UUCP USENET then too ( 1985 ? ); in 1991, when TCP/IP became more widespread, I really got into it. ■ BranimirMaksimovic N8ZhF.405144$vW4.363076@fx24.am4 DFS J5BiF.517524$1b5.164893@fx37.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.17pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 5 m107 Top; 1.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 24 { 8:25pm, 2019 }: 5^(-4) Xϕʚȷ I seldom see my ( black/blank ) "Desktop" window. DFS wrote: > Relf apparently never sees Explorer.EXE. I seldom see my ( black/blank ) "Desktop" window; instead, I use "Explorer.EXE". My customizations of "Explorer" are complex; it looks like this: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Relfs-File-Explorer.PNG I wrote my own console, similar to the DOS console; but it runs only C++ routines, not DOS/PowerShell commands. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM Other customizations: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT ■ SteveCarroll qm08tg$630$6@dont-email.me DFS JeoiF.266562$243.209529@fx36.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.58am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f4260e8cadf893d43@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--3.52pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f44f02255c446cd45@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--5.29pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m164 Mad; 19.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 24 { 5: 4pm, 2019 }:56^(-7) Xϕɸж "Vittles Vault" is a trademark. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > > > My Vittles Vault smells/looks/works better than your toilet. > > > > > > Have you applied for a patent or a trademark yet ? > > > > "Vittles Vault" is a trademark. > > Why would you call feces "vittles" ? I didn't name it, it's not my trademark. It's designed to store dog food. ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.44pm.Seattle.2019 . M0zgF.255428$243.226682@fx36.iad . qm08tg$630$6@dont-email.me . JeoiF.266562$243.209529@fx36.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.58am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37f4260e8cadf893d43@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--3.52pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m316 Mad; 1.6 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 24 { 2:10pm, 2019 }: 9^(-7) XϕɛϷ "Vittles Vault" is a trademark. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > My Vittles Vault smells/looks/works better than your toilet. > > Have you applied for a patent or a trademark yet ? "Vittles Vault" is a trademark. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmcg7l$mgu$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--1.27am.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger 6292a73c-9a99-4df8-970d-83df20d740a3@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.52am.Seattle.2019 Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qme3ra$r5p$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m6 Cool; 2.5 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 24 { 3: 3pm, 2019 }:22 Xϕɤγ Chris' sacred shadows. Chris replied ( to me ): > > > there weren't many humans around then, were there ? > > > > That's what evangelical Christians say about dinosaurs: > > > > " You weren't there, so you don't know. " > > > > Likewise, your " irrefutable science " cult lives in the shadows. > > Wow. If that's your benchmark of salient argument > then there's not much left to say. Sorry if I shone some light into your sacred shadows, chasing your God away -- you had better avoid me. ■ . 77a23e47-12ab-46d7-9d9d-bc51e378f51a@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmcg7l$mgu$1@dont-email.me Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 8mrkoe12c7n1bknnfd5v78ug0l5agudemh@4ax.com Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qme36n$lu4$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--3.20pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m6 Cool; 13.5 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 24 { 2:52pm, 2019 }:23 XϕɢЕ Hurricanes aren't new to the Bahamas. Hurricanes aren't new to the Bahamas; no, what's new is all the people living there now. The entire planet shouldn't give up its sovereignty just to (notionally) "save" the fools who built shacks in "Hurricane Alley". Also, fires are natural; especially now, when there's enough warmth, water, and carbon dioxide to grow plentiful forests. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--1.27am.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger 6292a73c-9a99-4df8-970d-83df20d740a3@googlegroups.com SteveCarroll qmdfak$955$3@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 74fccb43-41ad-4d31-861b-3c0532c6d073@googlegroups.com SteveCarroll qmdm5c$vsg$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger 616e1fdd-3a67-474a-b89d-073d70e59b4b@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--1.49pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m54 Top; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.18, Sep 24 { 11:47am, 2019 }:24^(PDT) Xϕȹგ Since when was it a good idea for the government to control production ?! AOC is Doctor Evil; if we don't do what she says, we're toast. Her "science" is irrefutable, we're told. Her "Green New Deal" reminds me of China's "Great Leap Backward" (1958), its "Cultural Devolution" (1966), and today's "Mega Ghost Town" quotas. Since when was it a good idea for the government to control production ?! How many tons of nails must we produce this year, comrade ? ■ Se7en│Se7en@cock_email qlrbi9$1es6$1@gioia.aioe.org KWills_Shill_#3│compuelf@gmail_ omh2oed8c0oq0le7i2mrplef7cjttngk11@4ax.com Johann_Beretta│beretta@nun-ya qmbk1l$mlp$1@dont-email.me SteveCarroll qmde3c$955$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--11.10am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Censorship, Alt.Comp.OS.Linux, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Politics, Alt.Conspiracy ╱ 1 m152 Cool; 1.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 24 { 8:52am, 2019 }:12 XϕcϺ In Japan, it's legal for an older man to have sex with a 13-year-old. In Japan, it's legal for an older man to have sex with a 13-year-old. In America, you have to shoot yourself if people think you might've had sex with a 17-year-old, 20 years ago. Personally, I don't have sex with anyone. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.42am.Seattle.2019 DFS yswgF.527603$6H5.196397@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.44pm.Seattle.2019 DFS M0zgF.255428$243.226682@fx36.iad SteveCarroll qm08tg$630$6@dont-email.me DFS JeoiF.266562$243.209529@fx36.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.58am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m100 Top; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 24 { 5:46am, 2019 }:28^(-4) Xϕ7К My Vittles Vault smells/looks/works better than your toilet. DFS replied ( to Steve ): > > I don't even wanna know what the rest of them are sh*tting in ;) > > LOL! It's gross. My Vittles Vault smells/looks/works better than your toilet. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--11.07pm.Seattle.2019 . 77a23e47-12ab-46d7-9d9d-bc51e378f51a@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmcg7l$mgu$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--1.27am.Seattle.2019 HughHuntzinger 6292a73c-9a99-4df8-970d-83df20d740a3@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--10.52am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m51 Top; 6 Hours, GoogleG, 173.54.111.20, Sep 24 { 4: 7am, 2019 }:11^(PDT) XϓჭȽ Your " irrefutable science " cult lives in the shadows. Hugh replied ( to me ): > > So there you have it, all you have to do is imagine > > a huge downward spike in atmospheric carbon dioxide, > > so short-lived, we can't properly measure it. > > [ how precise were the measurements that > said that CO2 was at ~5600 ppm 444m years ago ? ] CO2 was that high for tens of millions of years, apparently. Geologically speaking, humanity is a tiny fraction of a rounding error. > there weren't many humans around then, were there ? That's what evangelical Christians say about dinosaurs: " You weren't there, so you don't know. " Likewise, your " irrefutable science " cult lives in the shadows. > [ Exxon's ] 'scientists' are perpetrating cherrypicking of anecdotes. Likewise, your " irrefutable science " cult cherry-picks anecdotes. ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qm3m65$1i8g$3@gioia.aioe.org PaulAlsing e5e5a276-62a3-42b7-9368-a3b8c0daf5c2@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--11.07pm.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 77a23e47-12ab-46d7-9d9d-bc51e378f51a@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Chris│ithinkiam@gmail_com qmcg7l$mgu$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.24--1.27am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m4 Cool; 4.2 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 24 { :22am, 2019 }:29 XϓчЛ So short-lived, we can't properly measure it. "ithinkiam" replied ( to me ): > > 440 million years ago, in the Earth's coldest period, > > carbon dioxide levels were 11 times higher than they are today. > > you don't show any evidence Google: carbon-dioxide Ordovician-glaciation [ in the late Ordovician, 444 million years ago ] CO2 levels were very high, around 5'600 parts per million . However, glaciers were so far-reaching during the late Ordovician, it coincided with one of the largest marine mass extinction events in Earth history. ... How continental glaciation could have formed when carbon dioxide levels were so high has been a paradox. Recently it has been proposed that the terminal Ordovician glaciation was triggered through a combination of the placement of Africa over the South Pole and A SHORT-LIVED DRAWDOWN of atmospheric carbon dioxide. So there you have it, all you have to do is imagine a huge downward spike in atmospheric carbon dioxide, so short-lived, we can't properly measure it. ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qm3m65$1i8g$3@gioia.aioe.org PaulAlsing e5e5a276-62a3-42b7-9368-a3b8c0daf5c2@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--11.07pm.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 77a23e47-12ab-46d7-9d9d-bc51e378f51a@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m30 Cool; 1.3 Hours, GoogleG, Sep 23 { 3:39pm, 2019 }:13^(PDT) XϓϑΣ Seattle used to be under a glacier. Paul Alsing replied ( to me ): > > No one could ever pry Paul's hands off his Kool-Aid. > > I've not tasted Kool-Aid and > I don't understand why you think otherwise. Google: drinking the Kool-Aid > > Four Climate Scientists Destroy Climate Change Alarmism: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqejXs7XgsU > > there is plenty of evidence in support of man-driven climate change. Every time I mention your apocalypse cult, you always come back to: " our climate is changing " -- thank you, Captain Obvious. > This video was produced by the Heartland Institute, > a well-known climate-contrarian organization funded, in part, by Exxon, You attack the people ( Exxon ) who funded the research so you don't have to examine it -- well done, scientist. Exxon is evil, obviously, because they provide us with the energy we need to survive -- May God have mercy on their souls. I can't imagine a more sinister crime. > Tom Harris works for the International Climate Science Coalition Right, so he isn't allowed to comment on your Apocalypse cult. That'd be heresy, and you won't allow it. > Stanely B Goldenberg, is an actual meteorologist Yes, and the hysteria he quoted from the American Meteorological Society, 1922, is no different from they're saying today: " Within a few years, the sea will rise, making most coastal cities uninhabitable. " My hometown, Seattle used to be under a glacier. > Richard Keen, has a PhD in Geography! Google: Richard Keen University of Colorado Ph.D., Geography/Climatology, University of Colorado. Richard A. Keen is instructor emeritus at the University of Colorado Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences (ATOC). And "Professor in the Astrophysical & Planetary Sci.". Besides, what kind of credentials does one need to denounce an Apocalypse cult ? > blatant cherry picking of historical data Now we've come to the heart of the matter. _ You _ have cherry picked the historical data. Seattle used to be under a glacier. Only 5 to 10 % of the time was our planet ever cooler than it is now. 440 million years ago, in the Earth's coldest period, carbon dioxide levels were 11 times higher than they are today. ■ FabianRussell qm7l0o011j7@news1.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qm7v2o$sas$1@dont-email.me FabianRussell qm80o20169b@news1.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qmame3$q3e$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.23--0.28pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 3 m148 Cool; 3.3 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 23 { 7:56am, 2019 }: 3 Xϓʕɻ Yesterday's "dumb terminal" is now called a "smart phone". Yesterday's "dumb terminal" is now called a "smart phone". The only time I ever wanted one ( an 80 $ Amazon Fire tablet ) was when my PC broke down, and I needed to order new parts. Dumb terminals are far, FAR better than nothing, and they're good enough for Joe sixpack, but they can't replace my PC, with its Windows 10 desktop, Visual Studio 2019 compiler+editor+debugger, Microsoft Word/Excel, Bria soft phone ( including text messages ), DOS command prompt, WinSCP ( FTP ), Zoom Player ( complete control over 4K, 60 FPS videos ), OpenShot video editor, qBitTorrent, laser printer/scanner, highly customizable browsers ( http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SearchBar.PNG ), custom email/USENET/console app ( http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM ), CORSAIR CX Series 650 Watt Power Supply, Logitech g600 mouse ( http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG ), highly advanced, customizable speech-to-text, Ergotech Freedom Arm, Heavy Duty, 30 lbs Max, ( Tilt: 45° Dwn, 90° Up ), 360° Pole, 27" Reach monitor arm, 40" curved 4K monitor, 512 gig, USB 3.1 "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX" thumb Drive, 1 TeraByte, "Samsung 970 EVO Plus" ( 3.5 R / 3.3 W GigaBytes/Sec ) PCIe Gen 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.3 SSD. ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qm3m65$1i8g$3@gioia.aioe.org PaulAlsing e5e5a276-62a3-42b7-9368-a3b8c0daf5c2@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--11.07pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m27 Cool; 21.4 Minutes, GoogleG, Sep 22 { 10:29pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT) Xϓsჳ No one and nothing could ever pry Paul Alsing's hands off his Kool-Aid. Unable to access Google, Paul Alsing imagined: > Still can't find an actual climate scientist > who denies climate change, eh ? Change is obvious, doom and gloom is religious. No one and nothing could ever pry Paul's hands off his Kool-Aid. Four Climate Scientists Destroy Climate Change Alarmism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqejXs7XgsU Paul won't watch this video, I guarantee you. It's against his religion. ■ Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qm6t76$1su9$1@gioia.aioe.org PaulAlsing 439b5342-54d4-46e0-ac25-8899982048a9@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qm84an$1b5i$1@gioia.aioe.org PaulAlsing a1ff22c7-47ce-40ab-9f8d-e28f8c462f63@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qm8r28$jau$1@gioia.aioe.org PaulAlsing d7db73e4-1bae-4dc0-8798-470f96d89530@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--10.49pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m26 Cool; 12.2 Minutes, GoogleG, Sep 22 { 10:12pm, 2019 }:26^(PDT) XϓqQ The Pope talking about Catholicism. Sam Wormley talks about climate change like the Pope talks about Catholicism; everyone knows what he's going to say long before he says it. Likewise, I wouldn't trust anything Kensi or Ed Prochak might have to say about it; their minds are closed tighter than Kim Kardashian's dress. ■ Ken_Springer│wordworks qm5cqu$nu5$1@news.albasani.net VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 1cp36pwu4c12e$.dlg@v.nguard.lh Ken_Springer│wordworks qm80ut$oqj$1@news.albasani.net VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 15klxtohb9u5r$.dlg@v.nguard.lh JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--0.18pm.Seattle.2019 Ken_Springer│wordworks qm8ifp$prr$1@news.albasani.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--1.18pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m88 Cool; 38.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Mac, Albasani.NET, Sep 22 { :36pm, 2019 }:24^(-6) XϒъO The zooming sticks. Click to unzoom. Ken replied ( to me ): > > Zooming in/out, using Cntrl-wheel, is the best solution. > > Microsoft should implement this everywhere, file Explorer, Win32 API, etc. > > For a short period, yes. But not for 24/7 use, > where the computer is likely to be shut down and restarted. No, the zooming sticks. Click to unzoom. ■ Ken_Springer│wordworks qm4m5u$tf$1@news.albasani.net VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH khayulunig.dlg@v.nguard.lh Ken_Springer│wordworks qm5cqu$nu5$1@news.albasani.net VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 1cp36pwu4c12e$.dlg@v.nguard.lh Ken_Springer│wordworks qm80ut$oqj$1@news.albasani.net VanguardLH│V@nguard_LH 15klxtohb9u5r$.dlg@v.nguard.lh Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--0.18pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m52 Cool; 15.1 Minutes, 40tude, Individual.NET, Sep 22 { 11:58am, 2019 }:47^(-5) XϒуЭ Zooming in/out, using Cntrl-wheel, is the best solution. Zooming in/out, using Cntrl-wheel, is the best solution. Microsoft should implement this everywhere, file Explorer, Win32 API, etc. ■ FabianRussell qm366v2lrs@news3.newsguy.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.22--10.20am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate -Dropped, 1.9 Days, Pan, Newsguy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Sep 20 { 11:36am, 2019 }:15 XϑΛF The middle-of-the-road method ( a.k.a. apathy ). Fabian Russell imagined: > After a few beers, one of the lovely ladies expresses > a need to use the "powder room." > The gracious host, Relf, points to the Vittles Vault. "My" place is party-central, and randos are using all 5 bathrooms extensively, taking showers around-the-clock. No police to chase them out, like in Texas and Arkansas; that'd be too right-wing. Besides, each jail bed costs the city 100 thousand $ per year. No housing for the strays, the unwanted, the undesirables, the homeless; that'd be too left-wing, too expensive, too enabling. No, what we have is the middle-of-the-road method ( a.k.a. apathy ): Jeff Relf will take care of it. ■ MrChrisV nbvunedm2e155q66v4k90sdpv7umcn5gsc@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--6.10am.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qlo8h4$bfa$1@dont-email.me Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 829h5g-73a.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gunbm1FgnjaU1@mid.individual.net Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qm64fi$b2s$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.21--3.15pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m13 Top; 21 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 21 { 2:25pm, 2019 }: 6^(-4) Xϒɞȸ Silicon Dioxide, in the form of "Amorphous Silica Gel" (CimeXa). Paul noted: > Gastrolyte Nonmedicinal ingredients: silicon dioxide. Silicon Dioxide, in the form of "Amorphous Silica Gel" (CimeXa) applied via a puffer, is a dessicant that slowly ( days ) kills bedbugs for up to 10 years. It's as harmless as salt, but you don't want it in your eyes. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.27pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu54pjFm5goU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV nbvunedm2e155q66v4k90sdpv7umcn5gsc@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--6.10am.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qlo8h4$bfa$1@dont-email.me Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 829h5g-73a.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.21--11.03am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m7 Shifty; 7.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Sep 21 { 3: 2am, 2019 }:16^(2) Xϑტʈ TOO LITTLE SALT IS BAD. We have plenty of access to clean, fresh water; so drinking ordinary seawater is harmless. You won't be tempted to drink too much. In fact, plenty of people buy sea salt, which is just dehydrated seawater. If you've lost liquids to sweat or diarrhea, try eating some sea salt; after that, you'll feel the desire to drink plenty of fresh water. Most people here, including Paul and Carlos, promote very expensive, very mysterious, re-hydration methods. You guys keep spending thousands and thousands of dollars to sate your wild imaginations. No need to try what I suggest; we all know that your ideas are better because they cost more, and because... magic. TOO LITTLE SALT IS BAD. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--8.59pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ee18c9a77bde70ccc@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--5.23am.Seattle.2019 FatCat│noemail@noemail_invalid qm2s7j$1sgo$2@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--9.07am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eee45eb21ffdd6ce8@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--3.19pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m178 Mad; 2.8 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 20 { 2:28pm, 2019 }:37^(-7) XϑοУ Every junkie is a setting sun. "Checkmate" replied ( to me ): > > Tobacco is the "drug" that Einstein, Mark Twain, > > Clint Eastwood, and centenarians use. > > > > I believe that pipe smoking contributes to > > a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs. > > -- Einstein upon joining the Montreal Pipe Smokers Club (1950) > > So you "don't do drugs" except for the drugs you do. > At least I'm honest about what I do, and do so legally > with my doctor's recommendation and approval. Yeah, Einstein was quite the "drug addict" (not). You're in the Michael Jackson and Prince club; every junkie is a setting sun. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--2.52pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ede09621709964cbb@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--8.59pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ee18c9a77bde70ccc@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--5.23am.Seattle.2019 FatCat│noemail@noemail_invalid qm2s7j$1sgo$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--9.07am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 3.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Sep 20 { 8:46am, 2019 }: 1^(-4) Xϑʝϡ Einstein, Mark Twain, Clint Eastwood, and centenarians. "FatCat" replied ( to me ): > > I don't do drugs of any kind, not even caffeine. > > I thought you said you smoke and even roll your own? > Nicotine is a drug. Yeah, but tobacco is the "drug" that Einstein, Mark Twain, Clint Eastwood, and centenarians use. I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs. -- Einstein upon joining the Montreal Pipe Smokers Club (1950) There are people who strictly deprive themselves of each and every eatable, drinkable and smokable which has in any way acquired a shady reputation. They pay this price for health. And health is all they get for it. How strange it is. It is like paying out your whole fortune for a cow that has gone dry. -- Mark Twain's Autobiography (1924) p. 98 ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--2.52pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ede09621709964cbb@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--8.59pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ee18c9a77bde70ccc@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--5.23am.Seattle.2019 Skeeter│invalid@invalid_com MPG.37ee8f6c4cd531fe9898b0@news.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--8.01am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m54 Dropped; 17.6 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 20 { 7:26am, 2019 }:10^(-6) Xϑʐʂ No Nazi police. No Soviet housing. Skeeter replied ( to me ): > > Some people barf+shit all over the bathrooms. > > Squatters ( and their many friends ) shoot up > > and pass out in the ( locked ) bathrooms. > > You're a slum lord. People say they want "low income housing", until they realize that it means things like "the projects", and "tent cities". Nobody wants to house them ( the unwanted, the strays ), not even in jails. No Nazi police. No Soviet housing. They are the undesirables, too ugly to look at. If there were a better way, we would've already gone that route. This year has been quite different from the previous 11; truly, it reminds me of 2005-2007. Trump might pump enough money into the economy to get re-elected; but, after that, he'll get fiscally conservative and... POP ! ... we'll be reliving 2008-2010 again. " You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out. " -- Warren Buffett ... and I'm seeing nudists everywhere. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--9.23am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ed95b0b55a13eecba@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--2.52pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ede09621709964cbb@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--8.59pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ee18c9a77bde70ccc@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.20--5.23am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 8 m173 Mad; 4.8 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 19 { 11:59pm, 2019 }:59^(-7) XϑȻჵ Micro-Apartments in the big city. Checky replied ( to me ): > > I take zero drugs, absolutely none, legal or otherwise. > > You just said a day or two ago that you tried Xanax. I'm 60 years old, and I tried it once ( I slept for days, not fun ); you, on the other hand, take it daily. Can't you see the difference ? So, please think twice before calling me a "druggie". I don't do drugs of any kind, not even caffeine. "Rooming Houses" ( a.k.a. "shared housing" ) have SHARED bathrooms. It's a pain-in-the-ass to continually leave one's PRIVATE room to use the COMMUNAL bathroom, going up+down stairs. Some people have mobility issues that make it even more difficult. Some people barf+shit all over the bathrooms. Squatters ( and their many friends ) shoot up and pass out in the ( locked ) bathrooms. Considering the above, it's much better if you can "do your business" without leaving your PRIVATE room, right ? Hence: I'd rent them "Vittles Vault" containers, and charge them to get rid of the contents ( human waste ). It's cheaper and more convenient than the alternatives. Piss into a measuring cup, shit into a soup ladle. GenZ doesn't want to fuck with tenants, housemates, family, etc.; they've no desire to pay-for and maintain huge fucking houses. No, they want micro-apartments, in the big city. My service would be a money-making opportunity. ■ . M0zgF.255428$243.226682@fx36.iad . qm08tg$630$6@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--9.23am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ed95b0b55a13eecba@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1dense9--2.52pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ede09621709964cbb@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--8.59pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m302 Mad; 51.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 19 { 8: pm, 2019 }:15^(-7) XϑUF I take zero drugs, absolutely none, legal or otherwise. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > I'm talking about servicing people who are renting rooms. > > I rent them "Vittles Vault" containers, > > and charge them to get rid of the contents ( human waste ). > > > > It's cheaper and more convenient than the alternatives. > > Piss into a measuring cup, shit into a soup ladle. > > Shitting on the sidewalk is free. So, in your drug addled-brain ( OxyContins, Xanax, etc. ), my tenants are leaving the house ( with its 5 bathrooms ), walking down a few streets, and then squatting ?! Note: I take zero drugs, absolutely none, legal or otherwise. I don't even drink coffee, no caffeine of any kind. ■ DFS yswgF.527603$6H5.196397@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.44pm.Seattle.2019 DFS M0zgF.255428$243.226682@fx36.iad SteveCarroll qm08tg$630$6@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--9.23am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ed95b0b55a13eecba@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--2.52pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m162 Cool; 4.8 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 19 { 2:40pm, 2019 }:33^(-7) XϐპП Piss into a measuring cup, shit into a soup ladle. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > I should start a porta-potty service for my tenants. > > I could make it an app, and go global. > > Imagine the IPO. > > People would be in there shooting up and having sex. Yes, but I'm talking about servicing people who are renting rooms. I rent them "Vittles Vault" containers, and charge them to get rid of the contents ( human waste ). It's cheaper and more convenient than the alternatives. Piss into a measuring cup, shit into a soup ladle. ■ DFS tgtgF.283225$BJ1.172124@fx43.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.42am.Seattle.2019 DFS yswgF.527603$6H5.196397@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.44pm.Seattle.2019 DFS M0zgF.255428$243.226682@fx36.iad SteveCarroll qm08tg$630$6@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.19--9.23am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 6 m198 Mad; 14.1 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 19 { 9: 4am, 2019 }: 1 XϐЦϡ I should start a porta-potty service for my tenants. Steve Carroll replied ( to DFS ): > > Aren't you [JeffRelf] the crazy family member ? > > I don't even wanna know what the rest of them are sh*tting in ;) I should start a porta-potty service for my tenants. I could make it an app, and go global. Imagine the IPO. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqt9h.qv2.19.1@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.11pm.Seattle.2019 Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com gTygF.382939$cG6.83520@fx34.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.31pm.Seattle.2019 Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com SmzgF.284189$BJ1.217988@fx43.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--5.20pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m16 Dropped; 17.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Sep 18 { 4:48pm, 2019 }: 2^(-6) Xϐɶ2 The 300 lb fat man isn't better than the 150 lb boxer. JW replied ( to me ): > > > > The smartest people in the world, "The Asian Tigers", > > > > have a "fertility rate" of .98 kids per woman per lifetime. > > > > Replacement level is 2.08 kids. > > > > > > It's not very smart to deliberately die off. > > > > Quality matters more than quantity. > > Not if the quantity becomes zero. Zero is an unlikely number. Fewer, higher-quality people is best. The 300 lb fat man isn't better than the 150 lb boxer. > It makes me think the people doing the ranking > aren't so smart themselves. It depends on what standards you use. Percent of students achieving advanced scores: 1 71.37 Singapore 2 66.85 South Korea 3 66.66 Hong Kong 4 63.21 Taiwan 5 58.01 Japan 6 38.46 Russia 7 38.27 China 8 37.02 Macao 9 32.64 Kazakhstan 10 32.06 Liechtenstein 11 31.93 Switzerland 12 30.03 Ireland 13 29.84 US ■ FabianRussell qltk6002clm@news1.newsguy.com DFS kftgF.66622$Xe3.22013@fx32.iad FabianRussell qltnno02e4j@news1.newsguy.com DFS DQtgF.447993$oq9.429660@fx47.iad SteveCarroll qltpvs$ctc$3@dont-email.me DFS %%ygF.255427$243.247580@fx36.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.58pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m112 Top; 15.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 18 { 4:22pm, 2019 }:33^(-4) XϐɱП Poor Fabian. DFS replied ( to Steve ): > Feeb is 38 ? He acts like he's 11. > > It's because his Mom never made him get a job and leave her house. He'd put you in jail for repairing your roof, and have his buddies shank you while you're there ? All code should be C, not C++, no extensions nor macros ? No one should ever automate their browser, nor Excel ? Deamons are evil ?! Graphics are for idiots ?! Richard Stallman is a God; no one should ever pay for software ?! If he's real, and not just pulling our legs, I feel sorry for him. ■ SteveCarroll qltko1$1pi$5@dont-email.me DFS tgtgF.283225$BJ1.172124@fx43.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.42am.Seattle.2019 DFS yswgF.527603$6H5.196397@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.44pm.Seattle.2019 DFS M0zgF.255428$243.226682@fx36.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.43pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m112 Top; 14.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 18 { 4:23pm, 2019 }:21^(-4) Xϐɱя No crazy family members, nagging me to do this and that. DFS replied ( to me ): > > But there are advantages to eating/smoking what I want, > > when I want. I feel absolutely no need to impress anyone. > > No crazy family members, nagging me to do this and that. > > Aren't you the crazy family member? If you say so, dad. " You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred. " -- Woody Allen. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.45am.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqbou.l9a.19.1@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqt9h.qv2.19.1@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.11pm.Seattle.2019 Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com gTygF.382939$cG6.83520@fx34.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.31pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m15 Dropped; 2.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Sep 18 { 4:14pm, 2019 }:20^(-6) Xϐɰʌ Quality matters more than quantity. JW replied ( to me ): > > The smartest people in the world, "The Asian Tigers", > > have a "fertility rate" of .98 kids per woman per lifetime. > > Replacement level is 2.08 kids. > > It's not very smart to deliberately die off. Quality matters more than quantity. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eb29441230cc02c6c@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qls871$uca$52@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.45am.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqbou.l9a.19.1@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqt9h.qv2.19.1@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--4.11pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m13 Dropped; 1.5 Hours, Pan, Alt.NET, Sep 18 { 2:31pm, 2019 }:59 Xϐɟɷ Why have a ball-n-chain, if you can avoid it ? Pandora replied ( to me ): > > My father's income was enough to raise a family of 8. > > We don't see that anymore; women ditch their men, taking their kids, > > their salary, and their dignity. > > > > You can thank feminists for this. > > And the men they are married to. True, men want their women to be independent. Why have a ball-n-chain, if you can avoid it ? ■ HughHuntzinger 5ea7cdb0-fee7-4f2b-a290-92e9868cd00b@googlegroups.com FabianRussell qltk6002clm@news1.newsguy.com DFS kftgF.66622$Xe3.22013@fx32.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.36am.Seattle.2019 DFS rBwgF.71$zU2.15@fx01.iad FabianRussell qlub1a02o35@news1.newsguy.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--3.55pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m171 Dropped; 14.9 Minutes, Pan, Newsguy.COM➤NewsGuy.COM, Newsdawg.COM, Sep 18 { 3:27pm, 2019 }:54 XϐɨϚ I'm living in a house built in 1926, 93 years ago. Fabian wrote: > A house (home) should last for a thousand years, > and in Europe many of them do. I'm living in a house built in 1926, 93 years ago. In Japan, "newer" homes are torn down after 30 years, on average. Wars and earthquakes have sped up this process, I imagine. ■ Unlisted│unlisted@nomail_com fj43oephbjuqob1h6acj9hheg60bk8omli@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qlskb8$mdg$1@dont-email.me J_P_Gilliver(John│G6JPG yKKMFBteyegdFwoz@255soft.uk David_E_Ross│nobody@nowhere_ qlthg0$mo9$1@news.albasani.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--3.41pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Windows7.General ╱ 1 m3 Cool; 6.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Albasani.NET, Sep 18 { 8:11am, 2019 }:59^(-7) XϐVჵ Firefox is willing to use half of the free space on your drive. David Ross wrote: > For a few years now, Firefox uses places.sqlite not only for bookmarks > but also for browsing history. The size of the file is fixed at 10 MB. Mine is over 81 megabytes, and it goes back many years. Apparently, "places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages" can't be larger than 193'703. I Googled: maximum history, quantum Firefox There's no longer a time limit. I think Firefox is willing to use half of the free space on your drive. ■ DFS kXrgF.211785$9i3.208967@fx42.iad FabianRussell qltil502c0p@news1.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qltko1$1pi$5@dont-email.me DFS tgtgF.283225$BJ1.172124@fx43.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.42am.Seattle.2019 DFS yswgF.527603$6H5.196397@fx45.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.44pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m106 Top; 9.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 18 { 1:28pm, 2019 }:35^(-4) XϐɔС No crazy family members, nagging me to do this and that. DFS wrote: > I once dropped 40lbs (220 to 180), and the extra energy > at 180 was amazing. Basically never felt tired during the day. > Heartburn went away, too. Overeating prompts heartburn, I know. But there are advantages to eating/smoking what I want, when I want. I feel absolutely no need to impress anyone. No crazy family members, nagging me to do this and that. ■ FabianRussell qltk6002clm@news1.newsguy.com DFS kftgF.66622$Xe3.22013@fx32.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.36am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qltq9a$ctc$5@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--11.38am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qlu32i$ap9$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.29pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m198 Mad; 11.5 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 18 { 1:12pm, 2019 }: 2 Xϐɒ2 Not being anchored to crazy family members is a blessing. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > > No one wants low-income housing > > ( e.g. "the projects", or "tent cities" ), especially the neighbors. > > If there were a better way, we would've already gone that route. > > There once was a better way... > but we stopped teaching people's values decades ago. True, Japan and China don't have this problem. Families take care of their poor and disabled. Then again, not being anchored to crazy family members is a blessing. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.45am.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqbou.l9a.19.1@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qlu13j$sbk$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.01pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qlu2ml$sbk$11@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.21pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 2 m73 Cool; 1.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 18 { 1: 5pm, 2019 }:41 Xϐɐუ Thank you, feminists. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me, replying to her ): > > > You can thank neoliberal austerity politics > > > for [ the low "fertility rate" ]. > > > > What "neoliberal austerity" ? > > government "deficits" are through the roof, flying sky high. > > And is the working class seeing one thin dime of this money ? Oh, that "neoliberal austerity", now I get it (not). When the deficit-spending drops back down to earth, the fat-cats won't be so fat anymore. The feminists will dump their "loser" husbands, and judges will assume that the men should be making more, and paying more child support, because they're "willfully" unemployed. The guys will be put in jail until they can pay. Thank you, feminists. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eb29441230cc02c6c@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qls871$uca$52@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.45am.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqbou.l9a.19.1@news.alt.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qlu13j$sbk$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--1.01pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m70 Cool; 32 Secs, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 18 { :38pm, 2019 }:27 XϐɄʓ Thank you, feminists. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Make America great again ?! > > > > My father's income was enough to raise a family of 8. > > We don't see that anymore; women ditch their men, taking their kids, > > their salary, and their dignity. > > > > You can thank feminists for this. > > You can thank neoliberal austerity politics for this. What "neoliberal austerity" ? government "deficits" are through the roof, flying sky high; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG What goes up, must come down. Not even Jeff Bezos can avoid the consequences of feminism; his wife had 60 billion reasons to divorce him. Warren Buffett ( and his wife ) are too "frugal" to pay for a divorce; so he just lives with his girlfriend. By the way, child support is based on whatever a judge THINKS you SHOULD be earning, not actual earnings... it has sent a lot of men to jail; where they must rot until it's (somehow) paid. Thank you, feminists. ■ HerbertGlazier 7b3dc981-e018-46e4-8eca-f632596b71ac@googlegroups.com SamWormley abd3d458-8472-4ba8-9fba-f37a8f86a6bf@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier a960f208-68b8-4b8d-9aa3-3777a03cbb56@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.36pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m178 Mad; 31.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Sep 18 { 11:45am, 2019 }:42^(PDT) Xϐȹχ Singularities are metaphysics, not physics. Bert replied ( to Sam ): > > No -- all particles (matter and energy) get squeezed out of existence > > at the singularity. There is no temperature. > > You say no temperature. I go with temperature. > My thinking goes with physics. Yours nothing. Singularities are metaphysics, not physics. If Sam were right, and a singularity had no temperature, then the laws of thermodynamics aren't applicable there. While that's appealing to simpletons, like Sam, it's far from true. Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be. 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the luminosity of 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ). 695 trillion suns. Lambda, the cosmological "constant", is growing. In physics, entropy is how evenly heat/matter are distributed. Our hot/dense sun evaporates into the cold/sparse vacuum, losing 4.3 million tons each second. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. "God" (nature) programmed us to ride this wave ( i.e. to sustainablely consume residual exergy ), same as the sun. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eb0b23404ce643c50@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qlru65$uca$34@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eb29441230cc02c6c@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qls871$uca$52@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.45am.Seattle.2019 Pandora│pandora@peak_org chqbou.l9a.19.1@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m12 Dropped; 2.7 Hours, Pan, Alt.NET, Sep 18 { 9:33am, 2019 }: XϐjΕ Make America great again ?! Pandora wrote: > We (baby boomers) wanted to have at least as good a life > as our parents had and we worked hard to get it. Make America great again ?! My father's income was enough to raise a family of 8. We don't see that anymore; women ditch their men, taking their kids, their salary, and their dignity. You can thank feminists for this. ■ FabianRussell qltil502c0p@news1.newsguy.com HughHuntzinger 5ea7cdb0-fee7-4f2b-a290-92e9868cd00b@googlegroups.com FabianRussell qltk6002clm@news1.newsguy.com DFS kftgF.66622$Xe3.22013@fx32.iad FabianRussell qltnno02e4j@news1.newsguy.com DFS DQtgF.447993$oq9.429660@fx47.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--11.53am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m105 Top; 22.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 18 { 10:29am, 2019 }:50^(-4) Xϐsწ High-Class "escorting". DFS wrote: > You probably won't ever get what's coming to you for pirating many > $thousands of commercial programs ( which you've admitted to )... In Spain and Switzerland, downloading copyrighted material for personal use, and not paying for it, is perfectly legal. Internet Service Providers are protected too. If there were a better way to handle this issue, we would've already gone that route... but there isn't. Porn stars aren't (directly) paid much for their "acting"; however, if it makes them famous, they can cash-in other ways, including high-class "escorting". ■ FabianRussell qltil502c0p@news1.newsguy.com HughHuntzinger 5ea7cdb0-fee7-4f2b-a290-92e9868cd00b@googlegroups.com FabianRussell qltk6002clm@news1.newsguy.com DFS kftgF.66622$Xe3.22013@fx32.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.36am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qltq9a$ctc$5@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--11.38am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m196 Mad; 10.3 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 18 { 10:42am, 2019 }: 3 Xϐv3 I'm seeing nudists everywhere. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > > You're 10+ times the "landlord" than I am, DFS. > > Not if you measure by the quality of tenants, > and what you each have to deal with. > > Your situation is totally insane, and you don't even > have a vested financial interest in the property. Wow, you're too kind. Maybe it's just me, and my increasing failures, but... This year has been quite different from the previous 11; truly, it reminds me of 2005-2007. Trump might pump enough money into the economy to get re-elected; but, after that, he'll get fiscally conservative and... POP ! ....we'll be reliving 2008-2009 again. " You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out. " -- Warren Buffett ....and I'm seeing nudists everywhere. Can I downsize further ?! > > If you could divide it up into micro-apartments, > > and if you could stomach the management problems ( a BIG "if" ), > > I think you'd make more money. > > Then he'd have to hire a Jeff Relf clone to deal with the crap ;) This is why no one wants low-income housing ( e.g. "the projects", or "tent cities" ), especially the neighbors. If there were a better way, we would've already gone that route. ■ DFS kXrgF.211785$9i3.208967@fx42.iad FabianRussell qltil502c0p@news1.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qltko1$1pi$5@dont-email.me DFS tgtgF.283225$BJ1.172124@fx43.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.42am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m103 Top; 32.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 18 { 9:50am, 2019 }:55^(-4) Xϐmʯ The 5-minute watering test. DFS wrote: > Did a 5-minute watering test and found absolutely zero leaks so far. > I'm looking forward to some serious rain to see what happens to the patch. Sounds good to me. Damn, that's a lot of work. I'd be getting serious cramps; I'm really out of shape. ■ DFS kXrgF.211785$9i3.208967@fx42.iad FabianRussell qltil502c0p@news1.newsguy.com HughHuntzinger 5ea7cdb0-fee7-4f2b-a290-92e9868cd00b@googlegroups.com FabianRussell qltk6002clm@news1.newsguy.com DFS kftgF.66622$Xe3.22013@fx32.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--10.36am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m103 Top; 33.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 18 { 9:49am, 2019 }:42^(-4) Xϐmɦ You're 10+ times the man that I am, DFS. You're 10+ times the man that I am, DFS. Your 75 thousand $ investment makes sense if you're investing long-term; short-term, I think the housing market is greatly inflated. If you could divide it up into micro-apartments, and if you could stomach the management problems ( a BIG "if" ), I think you'd make more money. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e67f774acca4e8bfb@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qlm5jh$uca$3@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eb0b23404ce643c50@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qlru65$uca$34@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37eb29441230cc02c6c@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qls871$uca$52@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.45am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Checkmate, Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 3 m70 Cool; 9.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 17 { 8:27pm, 2019 }:30 XωРλ Zoomers aren't interested in Checky's house. Zoomers ( born after 2000 ) aren't interested in Checky's house; like me, they want micro-apartments ( no housemates, no family ). Also, they don't want overpriced university education, nor do they want insanely-priced hospital care. And they only want to work a few hours per week, doing gigs, like me. Somehow, their interests match mine. I've been ahead of the curve for 3 decades now. Sadly, I can't say the same for Bernie Sanders. ■ SamWormley 8be350e6-958d-48a8-b170-71c8dda374ff@googlegroups.com EdProchak 194cfae9-7a32-4899-9667-80fa77d8fe16@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.28am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m39 Top; 9.3 Hours, GoogleG, 174.130.68.115, Sep 17 { 8:47pm, 2019 }:25^(PDT) XωУდ Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be. Today's black holes are nothing like they used to be. ■ SamWormley a677ae00-3a7b-43f5-8dfc-a28836ddd75c@googlegroups.com EdProchak d3f4f7f2-b70b-429a-af71-6c922e87a178@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.18--6.19am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m39 Top; 9.8 Hours, GoogleG, 174.130.68.115, Sep 17 { 8:21pm, 2019 }:44^(PDT) XωПω No one can pry your hands off your Kool-Aid cup. Ed Prochak replied ( to Sam ): > > Climate Deniers Launch Personal Attacks on Teen Activist > > Sad that [conservatives] now sees protecting the environment as a danger. No one is denying that today's climate is better than it's ever been. 80 years ago, Seattle was much colder. In a blink of geological time, Seattle has gone from being a glacier to a global powerhouse. You doom-and-gloomers can't even focus on _ real problems. No one can pry your hands off your Kool-Aid cup. ■ BranimirMaksimovic 0nZfF.1033386$dw4.5957@fx12.am4 FabianRussell qlqa9p0tfg@news1.newsguy.com BranimirMaksimovic 7i3gF.164557$qd4.6056@fx17.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.17--4.50am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m60 Cool; 3.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Sep 17 { 4:18am, 2019 }:27 XωɱR Stallman's objection to paying for software is ridiculous. Stallman's objection to paying for software is ridiculous. He was pushed out for his "Virginia Giuffre" comments; see: Vice.COM/EN_US/Article/9ke3ke/Famed-Computer-Scientist-Richard-Stallman-described-Epstein-victims-as-ENTIRELY-WILLING In Japan, sex with 13-year-old girls is legal. Personally, I wouldn't have sex with anyone, no matter their age. ■ The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D7D45FE.53B@ix.netcom.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gu5mqeFpj2bU1@mid.individual.net The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D7E93E3.6665@ix.netcom.com The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D7F11F2.259D@ix.netcom.com HerbertGlazier 52994340-3005-4f63-b061-1d88c84787d7@googlegroups.com MrAA 95affb4e-891b-4a67-9142-790309d6f891@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--4.42pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m61 Top; 2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Sep 16 { 2:37pm, 2019 }:37^(PDT) Xψპɡ "Weighting" Variables. Mr. AA asked: > how can you program an AI computer to feel pain, anyway? By "weighting" variables; bad outcomes have a certain weightings, good outcomes also have weightings. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu53fuFlt4fU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.27pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu54pjFm5goU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV nbvunedm2e155q66v4k90sdpv7umcn5gsc@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--6.10am.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qlo8h4$bfa$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--8.37am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m12 Top; 18.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 16 { 8: 8am, 2019 }:20^(-4) XψНʌ Does that work for you, Paul ? Paul replied ( to me ): > > The context is a person who has lost fluids, thanks to diarrhea. > > Eating salt makes you drink water. > > So while rehydration may involve packets of glucose and salt, > it looks like I was "staring at the wrong one". > The glucose does most of the work. Does that work for you, when you've lost a lot of fluids ? Personally, I always get more than enough sugars/starches. ■ Rabid_Rogue│rabid@rog_ue n_ueF.235989$Zf6.215878@fx28.iad default│default@defaulter_net vi8tnehqqmi0iipk0e2n6159afmomiisln@4ax.com T│T@invalid_invalid qlna1f$ns$1@dont-email.me default│default@defaulter_net 1c0vnedj6ab3pf1p094d34bg238r19eomm@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--6.34am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m4 Cool; 35.4 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds, Sep 16 { 5:36am, 2019 }:57^(-4) Xψϴv Calcutta's untouchables. "default" wrote: > All religious idiots are bonkers IMO, it is a matter of degree, > context, direction and flavor of the Kool-Aid. Replace the term "religious idiots" with "zealots" ( Democrat or Republican ) and I'd agree with you. However, middle-of-the-road is also bad ( due to the lack of choices ). In Seattle, cops tear up homeless camps, and keep them moving; they won't house the homeless, not even in jail. It reminds me of Calcutta's untouchables. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu52diFlnlhU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.06pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu53fuFlt4fU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.27pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu54pjFm5goU1@mid.individual.net MrChrisV nbvunedm2e155q66v4k90sdpv7umcn5gsc@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--6.10am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m183 Dropped; 46.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Sep 16 { 5:19am, 2019 }:37^(-5) Xψϱɡ A person who has lost fluids, thanks to diarrhea. Mr ChrisV replied ( to me ): > > > Salt has been unjustly villainized. > > > Wild animals love salt licks. > > Yeah, and I love doughnuts. That doesn't make them healthy. The context is a person who has lost fluids, thanks to diarrhea. Eating salt makes you drink water. ■ MsNadegda qlgqrc$ivt$2@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e59954bf61860bbd0@news.altopia.com Kensi qlhmhl$1iln$2@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e67cc69a7a8760bf9@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qlm5f4$uca$2@dont-email.me Kensi qln3l8$1g40$4@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--5.56am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m142 Cool; 7.4 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 15 { 9:39pm, 2019 }: 4^(2) XψʦΙ No man will touch you, *snigger*. Kensi replied ( to Nadegda ): > > A MGTOW is just an incel with an advanced case of sour grapes. > > > > Good point. *snigger* Meanwhile, no man will touch you, *snigger*. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu50g0Fl8gaU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.29pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu51j6Fli0bU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.57pm.Seattle.2019 EdProchak 9481cee0-4c78-4010-aa2b-bd695598ef3b@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--5.38am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 5 m33 Top; 9.1 Hours, GoogleG, 174.130.68.115, Sep 15 { 7:56pm, 2019 }:43^(PDT) Xψʕʣ ( Diarrhea induced ) HypoTension is also bad. Ed Prochak replied ( to me ): > > If you have access to clean water, salt will hydrate you. > > Oddly, you say the opposite happens. > > just eating Salt will cause you to become dehydrated After taking the salt, you _ will _ drink a ton of water. Don't believe me ? Try it. Yes, HyperTension can be bad, and lead to strokes. ( Diarrhea induced ) HypoTension is also bad, and it can be alleviated. ■ JimPennino k3lr4g-2hb.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 94952def-ec04-4385-be42-27988dc55f3b@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.58am.Seattle.2019 EdProchak f4d9c7f5-48c9-433f-8636-c2ec8deaab9d@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.43pm.Seattle.2019 EdProchak 4b1df90c-5cfe-41ad-8cf2-630ecf6fe499@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.16--5.25am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 7 m33 Top; 9.6 Hours, GoogleG, 174.130.68.115, Sep 15 { 7:28pm, 2019 }:37^(PDT) XψʐУ Calcutta style. Ed Prochak replied ( to me ): > > I have Google, I don't need Sam. > > [ Why then ] are you trolling newsgroups ? Unlike Sam, I engage with humans, I talk to them; Sam can't do that -- still, he offends most everyone. Have you considered why he offends so many, Ed ? Or does it just not matter to you ? > > Your apocalypse cult is sci-fi. > > Evidence? This is sci.physics, not talk.religion Which is why your "doomsday" talk doesn't belong here. Not everyone likes the taste of your Kool-Aid. My parents and grandparents were born in Seattle; my dad was born in 1924; so I know that Seattle was once much, much colder -- it's BETTER now, not worse. Go back far enough, and Seattle was under a glacier. How's that for "science" ( instead of Kool-Aid ) ? Meanwhile, everyone is ignoring more serious problems, like: the sudden increase of squatters invading my rooming house. Seattle wants _ me _ to take care of it, Calcutta style; the police won't do anything, and the city isn't about to house them. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.43pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall h7ntned038sa6eitv2md4t1sqq82hflcao@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--6.08pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q8otnep3ccs5cpla10jlo78nag5jp4p1dn@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--6.22pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall a8ptne5jdqfs2a0pfbt0moldv6a4bpdt5r@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--6.57pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m108 Dropped; 8.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 15 { 6:31pm, 2019 }: 8^(-4) XψʇȺ China doesn't have a " street urchin " problem. Greg wrote: > Witness Venezuela. Seattle will likely end up that way. China doesn't have a " street urchin " problem; there, families take care of it. Japan too, I assume. Here, people like me take care of it, if anyone. ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--4.14pm.Seattle.2019 . a97cf5c0-0822-489e-9c53-2e12d916fd0a@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.43pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall h7ntned038sa6eitv2md4t1sqq82hflcao@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--6.08pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q8otnep3ccs5cpla10jlo78nag5jp4p1dn@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--6.22pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m106 Dropped; 3.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 15 { 6:13pm, 2019 }:15^(-4) XψʄɁ The taxpayer has abandoned them, so _ I _ have to deal with it. Greg replied ( to me ): > > If Seattle were run by Nazi Gestapo, they'd take care of it; > > likewise, the problem would be solved if Seattle > > were run by communist zealots, Cuban style. > > > > Instead, we have this middle-of-the-road thing going on, > > where all the unwanted "kids" ( no matter their age ) > > become _ my _ problem ( or simply ignored ). > > The liberals say, "It takes a village" to raise those kids. > That is just a ploy to foist off their responsibility > for raising their own kids onto the taxpayer. The taxpayer has abandoned them, so _ I _ have to deal with it. ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.14am.Seattle.2019 . 0a2134ec-6f3c-4a57-bcb8-97cb9d8f1b45@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--4.14pm.Seattle.2019 . a97cf5c0-0822-489e-9c53-2e12d916fd0a@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.43pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall h7ntned038sa6eitv2md4t1sqq82hflcao@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--6.08pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m105 Dropped; 53 Secs, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 15 { 5:56pm, 2019 }:40^(-4) Xψʁʠ The sudden increase of squatters invading my rooming house. Re: The sudden increase of squatters invading my rooming house. If Seattle were run by Nazi Gestapo, they'd take care of it. Likewise, the problem would be solved if Seattle were run by communist zealots, Cuban style. Instead, we have this middle-of-the-road thing going on, where all the unwanted "kids" ( no matter their age ) become _ my _ problem ( or simply ignored ). ■ Kensi almarsoft.7621201612074382441@nntp.aioe.org Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall kihsnet1mrqtn6uj3lsmil9j2ahaa5nj3e@4ax.com MsNadegda qlm5d7$uca$1@dont-email.me Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 0g6tnedah6br46jsnag93qnvq4nv6u36mr@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e869cc8805f321c3e@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qlmkdg$uca$12@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.52pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m63 Cool; 4.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 15 { 5:18pm, 2019 }:56 Xψɻu Threads soon drift onto something else. Ms Nadegda noted: > "%" is *always* going on and on about his post count ! So ? he dropped out of 4th grade, age 10, and has yet to catch up. Anyone posting political claptrap will draw a lot of attention; even then, the thread quickly drifts onto something else. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.46am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 93bf4bf2-8996-45ed-8d08-10012f79ed9e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.14am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 0a2134ec-6f3c-4a57-bcb8-97cb9d8f1b45@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--4.14pm.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing a97cf5c0-0822-489e-9c53-2e12d916fd0a@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.43pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m17 Cool; 7.2 Minutes, GoogleG, Sep 15 { 5:16pm, 2019 }: 7^(PDT) Xψɺϵ The sudden increase of squatters invading my rooming house. Paul Alsing replied ( to me ): > > Yes, the rate of climate change is unprecedented; > > but consider the fact that, on the geological timescale, > > humanity is an infinitesimal blip. > > unprecedented is still unprecedented. As far as we know, it's unprecedented. We don't know the finer details of the geological record; rapid climate change may have happened frequently. > Does this mean that, as a species, we should just > ignore climate change altogether and just forge ahead > without ever considering perhaps changing the way we do things ? My parents and grandparents were born in Seattle; my dad was born in 1924; so I know that Seattle was once much, much colder -- it's BETTER now, not worse. Go back far enough, and Seattle was under a glacier. Meanwhile, everyone is ignoring more serious problems, like: the sudden increase of squatters invading my rooming house. Seattle wants _ me _ to take care of it; the police won't do anything, and the city isn't about to house them. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.46am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 93bf4bf2-8996-45ed-8d08-10012f79ed9e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.14am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 0a2134ec-6f3c-4a57-bcb8-97cb9d8f1b45@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--4.14pm.Seattle.2019 Odd_Bodkin│bodkinodd@gmail_com qlmj5o$1cm2$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.19pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m139 Dropped; 8.7 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPhone, Aioe.ORG, Sep 15 { 4:57pm, 2019 }:44 Xψɷω I'm not Satan incarnate. You ( Odd Bodkin ) told me: > You’re taking the stance: > “ So what if 3/4 of humanity perishes ? > We’re transient anyway ” Of course not, I'm not Satan incarnate. When I say " humanity is an infinitesimal blip " I mean this may have happened sometime in the past, and there'd be no geological record of it. Or, if there was a record of it, we haven't discovered it yet. ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 8lvnne1u2i7spahnit7sn7t38s6vjcni18@4ax.com PaulAlsing 1dc628f0-2fc1-4087-b193-d23f41ccc89e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.46am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 93bf4bf2-8996-45ed-8d08-10012f79ed9e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.14am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 0a2134ec-6f3c-4a57-bcb8-97cb9d8f1b45@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--4.14pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m16 Cool; 23.3 Minutes, GoogleG, Sep 15 { 3:38pm, 2019 }:37^(PDT) Xψɪʝ Humanity is an infinitesimal blip. Paul Alsing, Your claim that I don't believe in climate change is absurd to me. It's a straw man that you created just so you could knock it down; similar to the "racist NAZI" label that gets tossed around so much. There are many problems in this world today, and your claim that a warmer planet is the worst of them is pure sci-fi, an Apocalypse cult, similar to Scientology. Yes, the rate of change is unprecedented; but consider the fact that, on the geological timescale, humanity is an infinitesimal blip. ■ SteveCarroll qljcoo$2r6$1@dont-email.me FabianRussell qljh0v024mh@news3.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qljutg$59q$1@dont-email.me FabianRussell qllcfe01b24@news2.newsguy.com SteveCarroll qllgn0$qvd$2@dont-email.me ScottDoty gu79ljF4sl2U1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--11.00am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m65 Top; 2.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 15 { 10:11am, 2019 }:15 Xψpщ Robert Downey Jr. as Kirk Lazarus in Tropic Thunder. Scott Doty wrote: > Jarre -- Mr. Synthesizer -- used live instruments in his arrangement, > including a violin section and a guitar. One can produce some pretty good stuff, just sampling; to wit: " I'M A DUDE " — Robert Downey Jr. as Kirk Lazarus in Tropic Thunder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFG5dk1GyRo But the original, the thing you sampled, was human. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.11pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7e1fff913ad9bc22@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 9vhsne5thls1vtu4vgvnm9f9dep8mtv7r7@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e80b1b900a0ebcc2d@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall umrsne5hqsskgbs0ggpv5pudumhd7n7eh1@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e810b537ee15e1c36@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.34am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m126 Cool; 2.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 15 { 10:11am, 2019 }:58^(-7) Xψpჴ In 2018, I spent 3 thousand $. Checkmate wrote: > Not counting the van, I probably haven't spent > more than forty grand in the last year... if that. In 2018, I spent 3 thousand $, grand total. No van. ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 8evqnethh3nmgd9921lorgcj14kae2lo7j@4ax.com PeeScent chgkkq.uhq.17.1@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7e2e69d85d548c24@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--8.36am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 2omsnet49ema7uduvd11k7321lmcqaaucn@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e80f4ee3a603eac35@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--10.28am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m126 Cool; 8.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 15 { 10: 5am, 2019 }:58^(-7) Xψoჴ Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Chairman Xi, and Mitt Romney. Checkmate replied ( to Greg ): > > Everybody is either a wanker or a liar. > > I'm far too virtuous for that shit. You're in good company, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Chairman Xi, and Mitt Romney agree with you. ■ PeeScent chg9eu.r46.19.3@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e70433cf9927f0c0e@news.altopia.com PeeScent chge4k.lq1.17.1@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7198b6db1174c17@news.altopia.com PeeScent chgjh3.eo5.17.4@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7e4139cf7f62fc27@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--8.56am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m122 Cool; 1.2 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 15 { 7: 1am, 2019 }:29^(-7) XψKə It's hard to predict when I might be asleep or awake. Checkmate wrote: > I take Xanax at night; otherwise, I'd never get to sleep. Sure you would, eventually. I've always woken up at different times, each day. It's hard to predict when I might be asleep or awake. ■ The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ ndsqnelfcq6d6tqstfi71lmlm9qv471jda@4ax.com PeeScent chghbv.hgt.17.8@news.alt.net The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ u02rnetkqmcehm5nltocj5b9fo9ff0mo0j@4ax.com BranimirMaksimovic cslfF.143748$qd4.129445@fx17.am4 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.23am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall i8hsnelas8sa2md7oqorn72qudbtt4ifrq@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--8.49am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m98 Dropped; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 15 { 7: 8am, 2019 }:59^(-4) XψLΔ I'm right, like Einstein. Greg replied ( to me ): > > Everything is nothing because the future is just as fixed as the past. > > You're wrong. I guess you never heard of Schrödinger's cat? I'm right, like Einstein. Randomness is ignorance; nothing more, nothing less. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall llqqnepajq1nc52dk14gj49qnteqdc310b@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.02pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e718b24396ecebc15@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.24pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7e3289c5e634dc25@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--8.43am.Seattle.2019 IComp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m122 Cool; 1.3 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 15 { 6:57am, 2019 }:28^(-7) XψJι Bodies rotting in the summer sun for 5 days. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > Boraxo works well. I've had to clean it before, twice; > > the bodies were rotting in the summer sun for 5 days. > > You had two suicides in your apartments ? No, what makes you think that ? One refused treatment and died of cancer. Another died of an overdose, probably fentanyl related. Others have died, of course, just not in their rooms, alone. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall llqqnepajq1nc52dk14gj49qnteqdc310b@4ax.com The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ d8sqnep2nr567t4mb98td7vp7p42o3n8jn@4ax.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 8evqnethh3nmgd9921lorgcj14kae2lo7j@4ax.com PeeScent chgkkq.uhq.17.1@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7e2e69d85d548c24@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--8.36am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 3 m122 Cool; 1.3 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 15 { 6:56am, 2019 }:28^(-7) XψJʔ You never masturbate ? No porn ? Checkmate wrote: > Greg's a chronic wanker, like Nads. You never masturbate ? No porn ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.50pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6fe86b682fa17c07@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7187a547e12a4c14@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.11pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7e1fff913ad9bc22@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--8.31am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m122 Cool; 1.3 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 15 { 6:52am, 2019 }:38^(-7) XψIФ The vermin infesting my house would simply break down the door. Checkmate noted: > It took another 30 days to have the Sheriff remove them, and > they still hadn't left when they got the knock on the door. What did you do then, change the lock ? The vermin infesting my house would simply break down the door. > I'll haul her into court every year or two for a Judgment Debtor Exam, > where she'll be deposed by an attorney as to her finances. What if she doesn't show up, and/or she doesn't give you any information ? She's 100 % honest, I assume ( not ). ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu55bsFma17U1@mid.individual.net PeeScent chgd90.da3.19.1@news.alt.net The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ ndsqnelfcq6d6tqstfi71lmlm9qv471jda@4ax.com PeeScent chghbv.hgt.17.8@news.alt.net The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ u02rnetkqmcehm5nltocj5b9fo9ff0mo0j@4ax.com BranimirMaksimovic cslfF.143748$qd4.129445@fx17.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.23am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m11 Cool; 4.7 Hours, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Sep 15 { : 8am, 2019 }:56 XχхΑ Everything is nothing because the future is just as fixed as the past. Branimir wrote: > Nothingness is actually somethingness... Everything is nothing because the future is just as fixed as the past. "God" ( nature, evolution ) programmed us to over-eat, to over-breed, and to over-plot. ■ BenJacoby qlchnt$dtp$1@gioia.aioe.org Kensi qlf4ln$3sf$1@gioia.aioe.org Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 8lvnne1u2i7spahnit7sn7t38s6vjcni18@4ax.com PaulAlsing 1dc628f0-2fc1-4087-b193-d23f41ccc89e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.46am.Seattle.2019 PaulAlsing 93bf4bf2-8996-45ed-8d08-10012f79ed9e@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.15--5.14am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m16 Cool; 6.6 Hours, GoogleG, Sep 14 { 10:10pm, 2019 }:19^(PDT) XχбБ Change happens, get used to it. Pau Alsing replied ( to me ): > > The warming, and the increased carbon dioxide, are both welcome. > > Turning climate change into an Apocalypse cult > > has nothing to do with science. > > Really ? I believe you are very wrong about that... > fact-climate-change-is-very-very-dangerous I see your FUD ( Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt ), your sci-fi, and your innate desire to belong to an Apocalypse cult. Change happens, get used to it. ■ . qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 MichaelMoroney qlk3kd$oeu$1@pcls7.std.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--8.22pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 1 m75 Dropped; 1.9 Hours, nn, TheWorld.COM, Sep 14 { 6:20pm, 2019 }:13 Xχϻʅ All you need is salt, not pixie dust. Michael Moroney wrote: > Best for dehydration is Gatorade/sports drinks/Pedialyte > which have close to the correct level for oral rehydration. All you need is salt, not pixie dust. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.50pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6fe86b682fa17c07@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall llqqnepajq1nc52dk14gj49qnteqdc310b@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.02pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e718b24396ecebc15@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.24pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m116 Cool; 31.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 14 { 4:33pm, 2019 }:46^(-7) Xχϛϑ Bodies rotting in the summer sun for 5 days. Checkmate replied ( to Greg ): > > > [ use carbon monoxide to stealthily kill him ] > > You'd never get the rotting corpse smell out. Boraxo works well. I've had to clean it before, twice; the bodies were rotting in the summer sun for 5 days. Jesus Christ, I should switch jobs. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--0.35am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e59e63751fe85ebd7@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.50pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6fe86b682fa17c07@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e7187a547e12a4c14@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--5.11pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m116 Cool; 32.2 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 14 { 4:32pm, 2019 }:46^(-7) Xχϛʦ Talented vermin. Checkmate noted: > It took me at least six months to get to the point where > the Sheriff actually physically evicted my sister. > Deadbeats can drag this shit out forever. I know, they're talented, like that. Talented vermin. ■ The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D7D45FE.53B@ix.netcom.com MrAA 97c18b22-888d-49bb-980d-d56041ac519a@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.14pm.Seattle.2019 MrAA fb035d39-556f-4bdb-961c-851811073043@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.13pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m64 Top; 13.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Sep 14 { 3:52pm, 2019 }:59^(PDT) Xχϓй "God" ( nature, evolution ) programmed us differently. Mr. AA replied ( to me ): > > robots aren't programmed to over-eat and over-breed. > > They [ don't feel ] a sense of being trapped in their bodies. They would if you programmed it into them. "God" ( nature, evolution ) programmed us differently. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--0.35am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e59e63751fe85ebd7@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.50pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6fe86b682fa17c07@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall llqqnepajq1nc52dk14gj49qnteqdc310b@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.02pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m92 Dropped; 19.7 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 14 { 3:36pm, 2019 }:16^(-4) XχϑG I need a human pest exterminator. Greg replied ( to me ): > > I should be looking for another job, one that involves better people. > > Drill a small hole in the floor, get a cylinder of [ carbon monoxide ] > and when he's asleep fill his bedroom with CO. After about > a week when he starts to rot and stink the CO will have > dissipated and nobody will know what killed the jerk. I'm tempted. I need a human pest exterminator, they're worse than bedbugs. ■ . qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6ef8e3a777f23c03@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.48pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6fed6bb7ca0a7c08@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.55pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m111 Cool; 1 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 14 { 2:43pm, 2019 }:18^(-7) XχςɌ Xanax. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > I once took a Xanax just to see what all the hype was about. > > I spent the next 3 days unsuccessfully trying to wake up. > > No high, just sleep. > > I only get about a five hour nap from 1 mg. > How much did you take? 2 mg, probably, from the looks of it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.28pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4df7ad60ea015bbc@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--0.35am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e59e63751fe85ebd7@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.50pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6fe86b682fa17c07@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--3.29pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 6 m111 Cool; 31.1 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 14 { 2:41pm, 2019 }:58^(-7) Xχρჴ A hot war ? Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > Silver isn't very convenient and inflation isn't a big concern. > > Silver has run up as high as fifty bucks in the past, > and the fundamentals are in place right now. Triggered by what, a hot war ? P.S. The room below me is still driving me nuts. Thumping on the floor no longer works, it just upsets my neighbors. He punched another hole in the wall, and he intentionally damaged someone's bike, bending the wheel. Sadly, I'm going to have to evict him ( for non-payment ). I have a serious squatter problem too, right now. Where's the Mafia when you need them ? I want to ring their necks. I should be looking for another job, one that involves better people. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu50g0Fl8gaU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.29pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu51j6Fli0bU1@mid.individual.net Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu52diFlnlhU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.06pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu53fuFlt4fU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.27pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m4 Shifty; 7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Sep 14 { 2:13pm, 2019 }:34^(2) Xχνɞ Wild animals love salt licks. Carlos replied ( to me ): > > > [ oral rehydration ] is not simply table salt. > > > > Table salt works too. > > Sure. If you want to kill him. Salt has been unjustly villainized. Wild animals love salt licks. Google: is salt bad for you? " Salt has a bad reputation, but some evidence shows it may not have much impact on heart disease. " https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-salt-bad-for-you ■ The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D7D45FE.53B@ix.netcom.com MrAA 97c18b22-888d-49bb-980d-d56041ac519a@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.14pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m63 Top; 11.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Sep 14 { 1:56pm, 2019 }:56^(PDT) XχκΑ Computers aren't programmed to over-eat and over-breed. Mr. AA replied ( to StarFaker ): > > Only humans have Consciousness. > > On thing is for sure, AI computers don't have it ! Sure they do, the only difference is the programming; they're not programmed to over-eat and over-breed. ■ . qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu50g0Fl8gaU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.29pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu51j6Fli0bU1@mid.individual.net Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu52diFlnlhU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--2.06pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 3.7 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Sep 14 { 1:55pm, 2019 }:13^(2) Xχκȿ Table salt works too. Carlos replied ( to me ): > > > After you eat the salt, > > > you'll feel a strong desire to drink water; > > > this way, you'll drink much more than you could normally. > > > > > > Like I said, this is what the hospitals do, > > > and they charge thousands of dollars for it. > > [ oral rehydration ] is not simply table salt. Table salt works too. > they don't charge me a cent. If you pay taxes, you're paying for it. ■ . qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu50g0Fl8gaU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.29pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu51j6Fli0bU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.57pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Sep 14 { 1:41pm, 2019 }:10^(2) Xχηф People walk in sick and dehydrated, walkout feeling good and hydrated. Carlos replied ( to me ): > > After you eat the salt, > > you'll feel a strong desire to drink water; > > this way, you'll drink much more than you could normally. > > > > Like I said, this is what hospitals do, > > and they charge thousands of dollars for it. > > No, they don't. Yes, they do. Intravenous drip, a saline solution. People walk in sick and dehydrated, walkout feeling good and hydrated. If you have access to clean water, salt will hydrate you. Oddly, you say the opposite happens. ■ . qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e6ef8e3a777f23c03@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.48pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m105 Cool; 7.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 14 { 1:38pm, 2019 }:15^(-7) Xχηʇ Eat salt, directly from the saltshaker. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > Pepto-Bismol is good too, especially if you have heartburn; > > it hardens your stool, so it's not liquidy. > > A good opiate will do the same thing. I once took a Xanax, just to see what all the hype was about. I spent the next 3 days unsuccessfully trying to wake up. No high, just sleep. ■ JimPennino loar4g-tka.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 75bc8d77-795f-40c4-81d3-f16ae4e307a6@googlegroups.com JimPennino k3lr4g-2hb.ln1@mail.specsol.com EdProchak 94952def-ec04-4385-be42-27988dc55f3b@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.58am.Seattle.2019 EdProchak f4d9c7f5-48c9-433f-8636-c2ec8deaab9d@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.43pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m28 Top; 37.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 174.130.68.115, Sep 14 { :58pm, 2019 }:12^(PDT) XχΩϺ I have Google, I don't need Sam. Ed Prochak replied ( to me ): > > Sam Wormley commits multiple copyright violations daily; > > There is the fair use provision allowing using portions of a work > to be quoted with attribution to the source. Sam has done that. I have Google, I don't need Sam. Your apocalypse cult is sci-fi. ■ . qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ gu50g0Fl8gaU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.29pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Sep 14 { 1:22pm, 2019 }:24^(2) XχδЖ You'll feel a strong desire to drink water. Carlos replied ( to me ): > > Eat salt, directly from the saltshaker. > > After that, you'll want to drink water. > > Don't. This produces dehydration. Ignore this advice. After you eat the salt, you'll feel a strong desire to drink water; this way, you'll drink much more than you could normally. Like I said, this is what the hospitals do, and they charge thousands of dollars for it. ■ Russell│invalid@invalid_ qlhoja$1sbe$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--1.17pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 15 Hours, Pan, Aioe.ORG, Sep 13 { 9: pm, 2019 }:22^(-4) XχeM Eat salt, directly from the saltshaker. Russell mentioned his: > constant visits to the toilet. Eat salt, directly from the saltshaker. After that, you'll want to drink water. Alternatively, if you feel like spending thousands of $, go to the emergency room, to get an IV drip of saltwater; if you're lucky, you won't pick up MRSA while you're there. Pepto-Bismol is good too, especially if you have heartburn; it hardens your stool, so it's not liquidy. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.07am.Seattle.2019 Kensi qlcgkr$9da$1@gioia.aioe.org BenJacoby qlchnt$dtp$1@gioia.aioe.org Kensi qlf4ln$3sf$1@gioia.aioe.org Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 8lvnne1u2i7spahnit7sn7t38s6vjcni18@4ax.com PaulAlsing 1dc628f0-2fc1-4087-b193-d23f41ccc89e@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.14--4.46am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 4 m15 Cool; 12.3 Hours, GoogleG, Sep 13 { 4: 8pm, 2019 }:47^(PDT) Xφჭʧ Turning climate change into an Apocalypse cult has nothing to do with science. Paul Alsing wrote: > 2019 ( so far ) is not the lowest arctic ice ever, > but it is the second-lowest. What's so hard to understand ? > Somehow this is a victory for science deniers ? The warming, and the increased carbon dioxide, are both welcome. Turning climate change into an Apocalypse cult has nothing to do with science. The world has many, less-disputed, problems ( like malaria ). Why not focus on those instead ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.46pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4750cadea4d43bb6@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.28pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4df7ad60ea015bbc@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--0.35am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e59e63751fe85ebd7@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.50pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m101 Cool; 45.5 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 13 { 1:39pm, 2019 }:40^(-7) Xφეυ In the city, you can rent a micro-apartment and order Uber eats. Checkmate replied ( to me ): > > Banks package mortgage loans and sell them to Japan. > > When the loans go bad, the banks just laugh. > > I don't think that trick still works. No, it's still going on, same as always; it's one reason why FDIC insured banks are so safe. Unregulated "shadow banks" are out in force too, stronger than ever, chasing yields; recently, some of them have gone under. > > You and Greg belong to the same apocalypse cult, apparently. > > You should be neighbors, along with Ted Kaczynski. > > It's an example of MGTOW in its purest form. > You disdain others, so why would you live in a shoe box in a city ? I don't "disdain" everyone; I just don't want to be _ heavily _ involved in someone's life, that's all. as long as I can keep some distance, I'm fine. > > The room below me was playing music too loud, too long. > > I thumped out a message to him using a sledgehammer. > > He stopped. > > That's your city micro apartment for ya... 90 % of the time it's fine, quiet. He's in the room below me; so I can make his life hell, if I wanted to. > > I thought you lived in Seattle. > > I'm a comfortable distance away from any cities, > I couldn't stand living in one. I don't have a car ( Amazon works well enough ). Nor do I have a huge house. Both are _ huge _ advantages. > I just substantially increased my silver holdings, BTW. Silver isn't very convenient and inflation isn't a big concern. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--11.37am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e451d4ea6878ecba7@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.46pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4750cadea4d43bb6@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.28pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4df7ad60ea015bbc@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--0.35am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m98 Cool; 3.1 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 13 { : 5am, 2019 }: 6^(-7) XφΟр In the city, you can rent a micro-apartment and order Uber eats. I wrote: > > Trying to change others is a losing game; it'll drive you mad. The room below me was playing music too loud, too long. Before, when I asked him to " Please turn it down. ", the rude bastard replied "No". So, this time, I thumped out a message to him using a sledgehammer. He stopped. Checky replied ( to me ): > There is no way I could live in a crowded city with mobs of people > everywhere carrying who-knows-what diseases. I thought you lived in Seattle. Diseases have never been an issue for me. I spent nothing on healthcare, not even insurance, last 30+ years; so I've no idea what you and Greg might be worried about it. > When society starts feeling the strain from the upcoming pain, > that thin veneer of civilization will quickly disappear, > and all hell will break loose. You and Greg belong to the same apocalypse cult, apparently. You should be neighbors, along with Ted Kaczynski. > I'm sure as hell not going to pay a bank for the privilege of > keeping my money there so they can profit from it "investing" > in derivatives or using it to create loans that people will > most likely default on. Banks package mortgage loans and sell them to Japan. When the loans go bad, the banks just laugh. > The Bank of Rick will be backed by gold. I won't be investing there. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.46pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4750cadea4d43bb6@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.28pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall trolne5idmgopjeoofon0n2u70vlm194bp@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall j5rlnetbaj69vp83kkscv1761m7djkm609@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--11.51pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m85 Dropped; 5.3 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 12 { 6:17pm, 2019 }:41^(-4) Xφʄუ I don't need no stinking approval. Greg replied ( to me ): > > I'm a fat 60-year-old smoker; > > I probably don't have many years left. > > Why are you a fat smoker ? No self-discipline ? I eat and smoke whatever I want. " You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred. " -- Woody Allen. > No desire for a long, happy and healthy life? Long, "No". Happy, "Yes". > No self-esteem? I don't need no stinking approval. > You are a liberal. So are you, so is everyone. > This is pure insanity and partially due to their > living in cities surrounded by likewise defective thinkers. You and Ted Kaczynski would get along fine. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--11.37am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e451d4ea6878ecba7@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.46pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4750cadea4d43bb6@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.28pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall trolne5idmgopjeoofon0n2u70vlm194bp@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--6.09pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m145 Dropped; 22 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 12 { 5:39pm, 2019 }: 6^(-4) XφɾΛ Have you turned your exile into an Apocalypse cult ? Greg replied ( to me ): > > > > People are moving to the city, leaving the farm. > > > > I suggest you do the same, stay in the city. > > Let's say Seattle has an outbreak of bubonic plague > in the homeless population. [ You'll be Quarantined ] Have you turned your exile into an Apocalypse cult ? An asteroid or a GammaRay burst would be more likely. Also, I'm a fat 60-year-old smoker; I probably don't have many years left. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--10.20am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e426c1f4729650ba3@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--11.37am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e451d4ea6878ecba7@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.46pm.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e4750cadea4d43bb6@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--5.28pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 9 m206 Mad; 13.6 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 12 { 4:30pm, 2019 }:59^(-7) Xφɳx In the city, you can rent a micro-apartment and order Uber eats. Checky replied ( to me ): > > Long-Term: People are moving to the city, leaving the farm. > > I suggest you do the same, stay in the city. > > Fuck no! The last place you want to be when SHTF, is in a city. > [ people are ] moving to small farms to sustain themselves, > not to make a business out of it. According to you, Greg has done the right thing then. According to me, he's exiled himself; it's self-imprisonment. In the city, you can rent a micro-apartment and order Uber eats. > I could say gold is going to the moon, and I'd be right; > -- it's the WHEN part that's usually wrong. Since the end of 2015, the Yen has been tracking gold, as will the dollar, eventually, if all all goes right; complete with negative interest rates. > I sort through all the crap and try to make sense out of it. We've a limited number of crappy choices. You can't blame the guy who "chooses" to jump out the window when the house is on fire. Likewise, governments are forced to make crappy "choices"; e.g. enabling drugs and thieving junkies. > > Governments subsidize devil-may-care deadbeats/junkies > > and penalize penny-pinching capitalists, creating bubbles. > > If they can get to it, they can take it. > You could wake up one day and find your account has been frozen. Hence: I only invest in myself; I don't trust anyone. > > Long-Term: People are living alone now, ditching friends+family. > > I'm happier living alone than I ever was living with others. Amen. Trying to change others is a losing game; it'll drive you mad. ■ . Z2reF.381875$cG6.54806@fx34.iad . qldgi5$1f8$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--10.20am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e426c1f4729650ba3@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--11.37am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e451d4ea6878ecba7@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.46pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m95 Cool; 23.8 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 12 { 2: pm, 2019 }:37^(-7) Xφɚb People are moving to the city, leaving the farm. Checky replied ( to me ): > > Where's your money now, in an FDIC insured savings account ? > > Most of it's in no-penalty CDs now, earning 2.25%, which I can take out at any > time. Some is in CDs that mature next April, earning 2.90%, and the rest is in > a brokerage account, where most is parked in a settlement fund earning ~2%. Sounds safe, if not profitable. > I've very little confidence in the solvency of the FDIC, It's the safest way to go, I think. > I don't want to risk storing a lot of money in any form myself Right, because Governments subsidize devil-may-care deadbeats/junkies and penalize penny-pinching capitalists, creating bubbles. > I want to put most of it in a small farm, which is probably > the safest store of wealth for what you don't need to live on. Long-Term: People are moving to the city, leaving the farm. I suggest you do the same, stay in the city. > If real estate prices take a dump as expected, I'll > probably rent out the house I'm living in and enjoy the passive income. > I've been a landlord before, and I hate dealing with renters. Long-Term: People are living alone now, ditching friends+family. I suggest you do the same, no renters. ■ . PM5eF.71031$id3.8040@fx12.iad . qld69v$vd6$1@news.albasani.net . Z2reF.381875$cG6.54806@fx34.iad . qldgi5$1f8$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--10.20am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37e426c1f4729650ba3@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--11.37am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 1 m93 Cool; 35.8 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Sep 12 { 10:56am, 2019 }:57^(-7) XφxΒ Where's your money now ? Checky replied ( to me ): > > The next housing crisis is going to be worse than 2008: > > I'm counting on it. > I'm going to go bargain hunting when it collapses. Where's your money now, in an FDIC insured savings account, losing 2 % a year, after inflation ? ■ FredW│fredw@ninmule_invalid nrgdnepnsaohuipap40loh92f2a8a8rco3@7ax.com RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc ql9sup$f0k$1@gioia.aioe.org Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot PM5eF.71031$id3.8040@fx12.iad RHB│FHS@LaLaLand_inc qld69v$vd6$1@news.albasani.net Rabid_Rogue│rabid@rog_ue Z2reF.381875$cG6.54806@fx34.iad Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qldgi5$1f8$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--10.20am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m136 Top; 3.4 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 12 { 6:17am, 2019 }:57^(-4) XφCჳ The next housing crisis is going to be worse than 2008. RHB wrote: > > > I disabled the touch-screens on my PCs. They were of no use to me. > > > The laptop with the haywire cursor now works like new. Ha ! I got it right. Another thing I got right (probably): The next housing crisis is going to be worse than 2008: " Housing Bubble 2.0 " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGCQIHtgqvU Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, designed by the government ( for deadbeats ), are worse off now than they've ever been -- they're leveraged 1000 to 1; and they back half of America's 10 trillion $ mortgage market. What happens when the ( once illegal ) 4.3 trillion $ stock buyback ends ? In case you're wondering, 4.3 trillion $ is a huge chunk of the market. Can Trump's (wild) deficit spending delay the pop until after the election ? http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG Paul wrote: > [ Coke removes rust from chrome bumpers ] > The phosphoric acid in the Coke [is] likely the active ingredient. In India, farmers use Coca-Cola as a pesticide, because it's cheaper. Caffeine, Cocaine, Heroin, etc. are Nature's insecticides. ■ T│T@invalid_invalid ql4gt4$602$3@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot IqydF.464116$6H5.355276@fx45.iad T│T@invalid_invalid ql6m8o$7qn$1@dont-email.me Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ ql8540$j8t$1@dont-email.me Bucky_Breeder│Breeder_Bucky XnsAAC75A7BD6289BuckyWire@69.16.179.59 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qlavid$l9m$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--7.59am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m52 Cool; 26.8 Minutes, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 11 { 7:14am, 2019 }:45^(-4) Xυʎʥ "God" is literally nature herself; nothing more, nothing less. Mayayana wrote: > If you regard God as either a local entity or a universal > entity, that literal understanding of God is [ dogmatic ]. "God" is literally nature herself; nothing more, nothing less. People reject "her" because they either can't or won't think. ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall n3jcne9f97kkp3mdeoh06h4fgtllk1nh7r@4ax.com Kensi ql7504$1q6v$4@gioia.aioe.org BenJacoby ql791b$etm$1@gioia.aioe.org MsNadegda ql8tdh$vis$6@dont-email.me Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall jcufne5se5k2lagp0tirdglkoo3ej3alg2@4ax.com Kensi ql9rlq$859$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--3.07am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m123 Cool; 5.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 10 { 9: 3pm, 2019 }: 3^(2) XυeΘ Lets all chip-in and buy Kensi unlimited access to Google. Kensi replied ( to Greg ): > > 2014 comes in when Al Gore said and other climate alarmists agreed that > > the North Pole would be ice free the year around by 2014. > > [ citation needed ] Lets all chip-in and buy Kensi unlimited access to Google. Jonathan Amos, Science reporter, BBC News, San Francisco, Dec 2007: Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice. " But as we've seen, the models aren't fast enough right now; we are losing ice at a much more rapid rate. " " My thinking on this is that 2030 is not an unreasonable date to be thinking of. " Former US Vice President Al Gore cited Professor Maslowski's analysis on Monday in his acceptance speech at the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo. ■ HerbertGlazier ee24c29d-db6c-416e-958e-16219bb26fca@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gtrq9gFnfgtU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.11--2.33am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m31 Top; 38.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Sep 11 { 1:41am, 2019 }:19^(10) Xυɖэ Paying off the X. Sylvia replied ( to Bert ): > > Does any Object Spin 100% True ? > > My "spin is in" theory gives the answer as "no". > > What does "spin true" mean ? All we really know is that he's a pool shark ( 8 ball ) and that this theory of his is worth 28 Nobel prizes. Einstein thought of his Nobel Prize as little more than a way to pay off his ex-wife, so she didn't hang around. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--0.43am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100920190519402728%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.26am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100920190703256933%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--10.03am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100920191322402302%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--10.59am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m134 Dropped; 14.7 Minutes, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 10 { 10:22am, 2019 }:40^(-4) XτгЦ No one wants to zoom, and backwards compatibility is undesirable. Mr. "nospam" replied ( to me ): > > File Explorer is too old, > > the original creators are probably long gone. > > Why else would they not implement Ctrl-Wheel zoom ? > > because microsoft doesn't think its a useful feature. > adding it is easy, if they choose to do so. Oh, now I see... no one wants to zoom; so Microsoft didn't implement it. Had people wanted it, they could've _ easily _ done it, all they had to do was hire you, the great Mr. "nospam". When the replacement comes out, it'll have Ctrl-Wheel zoom. Why then and not now ?! > > Why did they create a whole new suite of settings dialogues, > > instead of modifying the original one, Control Panel ? > > because the old ones were awful, and that's just the user interface, > not what's underneath. Right, no one wants to zoom File Explorer. Got it. Thank God you're here, to explain things. > > Why does Quantum Firefox not allow prior extensions, > > because the extension API's changed, not the entire codebase, > and has nothing to do with c++. Got it. No one wants to zoom, and backwards compatibility is undesirable. Anything else you want to enlighten us on ? > > and how come most of the extensions weren't replaced years ago ? > > it's up to extension developers to update to the new API's. Got it. No one wants to zoom, backwards compatibility is undesirable, and hordes of extension developers just decided to give up, for some _ random _ reason. Anything else you want to enlighten us on ? > > If this is too much for you, I'll type slower. > > i'm well ahead of you. You're insane. Permanent brain damage, I assume. ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall t41dnetb4su8vdpmtqe6sf29aigahr47a0@4ax.com ScottDoty gtojdpF232nU5@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--0.43am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100920190519402728%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.26am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100920190703256933%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--10.03am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m81 Dropped; 5.7 Hours, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 10 { 4: 3am, 2019 }:25^(-4) Xτϖζ I'll type slower. Mr. "nospam" replied ( to me ): > > large C++ apps are usually rewritten, not modified. > > having worked on too many to count, that's absolutely false. ....except when it's absolutely true. File Explorer is too old, the original creators are probably long gone. Why else would they not implement Ctrl-Wheel zoom ? Why did they create a whole new suite of settings dialogues, instead of modifying the original one, Control Panel ? Why does Quantum Firefox not allow prior extensions, and how come most of the extensions weren't replaced years ago ? If this is too much for you, I'll type slower. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.47am.Seattle.2019 MrAA becf33cb-f35d-4ed8-b611-f118983c4978@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier 15615f54-e78f-475a-b2e7-4b5f17526735@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.37am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 8 m210 Mad; 7.6 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Sep 9 { 7:50pm, 2019 }:46^(PDT) Xτʔʦ I only invest in myself. Bert wrote: > My retirement plan has always been to save as much as I can. > To have the best credit. Don't people see sense in that ? > > I never played the market. > I would rather play poker and shoot pool to gamble. > I will never retire. Making $$$$ is fun. I'm with you Bert, but I don't play gambling games. Historically, long-term stock market investing has made sense; but I don't have that many years to live. I don't trust anyone; I only invest in myself. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.47am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall t41dnetb4su8vdpmtqe6sf29aigahr47a0@4ax.com ScottDoty gtojdpF232nU5@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--0.43am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100920190519402728%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.26am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m80 Dropped; 56.9 Minutes, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 10 { 2:19am, 2019 }:40^(-4) Xτξɤ Mr. "nospam" is still an idiot. You're still an idiot, Mr. "nospam"; and I'm not the only one who thinks so. JavaScript is easy to copy and modify; large C++ apps are usually rewritten, not modified. And no, I do not care what your hallucinations are telling you today. Lay off the pot, won't you ?! ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.47am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall t41dnetb4su8vdpmtqe6sf29aigahr47a0@4ax.com ScottDoty gtojdpF232nU5@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--0.43am.Seattle.2019 Unsteadyken│unsteadyken@gmail_ MPG.37e17a493992148e9896d4@News.Individual.NET Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--3.20am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 60 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Individual.NET, Sep 10 { 2:16am, 2019 }:39^(1) XτνХ File Explorer doesn't zoom. Ken replied ( to me ): > > Look at Microsoft Windows 10 v1903 File Explorer; > > Ctrl-Wheel doesn't zoom, as one would expect. > > I looked, and it zooms quite satisfactorily on V 1903 Build 18362.329 You're wrong. File Explorer doesn't zoom. What are you looking at, Internet Explorer ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.47am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall t41dnetb4su8vdpmtqe6sf29aigahr47a0@4ax.com ScottDoty gtojdpF232nU5@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.10--0.43am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m61 Top; 3.7 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Sep 9 { 8:25pm, 2019 }:45 Xτʚɩ Firefox v58 (Quantum) was a rewrite. Different code for different jobs. JavaScript is easy to read; C++, not so much. Look at Microsoft Windows 10 v1903 File Explorer; Ctrl-Wheel doesn't zoom, as one would expect. Why ? because it was written in C, many years ago; so no one can modify it. Further, no one will ever modify it, never ! Likewise, no one could modify Windows Control Panel. Always, the solution is a complete rewrite; This is what I do, and it's what everyone does. Firefox v58 (Quantum) was a rewrite; it happens all the time. ... My first job, in 1981, Provo Utah, at BYU, was coding in Modula-2 on a Lilith machine designed by Niklaus Wirth. Even back then, I had a multi-button mouse. Since then, the Swiss (Logitech) have improved their game; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG 1983, my then-wife forced me to work for one of those "enterprise" type companies, because it paid more -- fuck her, fuck them. 1993, almost 27 years ago, I was free to do what I wanted; so I started working for professors under "ABA.COM" contracts, -- and that's where I am now ( but my boss barely knows me ). Everyone who used to know me is now retired. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.47am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall t41dnetb4su8vdpmtqe6sf29aigahr47a0@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--11.04am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m138 Dropped; 47.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 9 { 10: am, 2019 }:24^(-4) XτoO No housemates nor family to drive you crazy. Greg replied ( to me ): > It's the packing in of humans like sardines > that's making you crazy. I was stating facts, not longing for the past. In micro-apartments, you've no housemates nor family to drive you crazy -- plus you can order Uber eats. Living up in the hills, as you do, is self exile; -- little better than prison. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--9.47am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Stock buybacks ( 4.3 trillion $ ). Stock buybacks ( 4.3 trillion $ ) are a relatively new thing, -- before 1982, they were illegal; also, it means companies can't invest properly. Once they end, the stock market will plunge, taking down lofty real estate prices with it. Negative interest rates in Asia and Europe, and the inverted yield curve in America, means people are going mad, in search of higher yields. The result: Record levels of defaults on low-quality debt, despite the robust economy ( fueled by government deficits ); it's 2007 all over again, shadow banks and all, but worse. Speaking of defaults, former dads have to pay ( after-tax ) child support based whatever income a judge _ thinks _ he _ should _ be making, not his actual income. And not one drop of it may be forgiven, not for _ any _ reason. Make America great again ?! My father's income was enough to raise a family of 8. We don't see that anymore; women ditch their men, taking their kids, their salary, and their dignity. ■ Archimedes_Plutonium│plutonium_ e2aabbd8-79fb-49e0-8665-bfdddc2f081a@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--7.05am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics +-, 1.4 Weeks, GoogleG, Aug 30 { 9: 5am, 2019 }:19^(PDT) Xνʠэ You'll go mad trying to change people. Archimedes_Plutonium wrote: > About Jeff Relf -- never any math, never any physics, "Sci.Physics" is nothing like Wikipedia, and it never will be. When you post math, AP, you piss people off. If you can't handle Wikipedia proper, that's your problem, not mine. I frequently post physics; however, it's usually met with silence. I carried on a small discussion about evolution recently; it didn't go anywhere, of course, no one changed their "minds". > Relf makes sci.physics a waste site, a refuse collection It is what it is, get used to it. You'll go mad trying to change people, like that. > " I see the mess the higher minimum-wage has created. " > By Jeff-Relf.Me 91 posts, 21 views, updated 9:53 AM. Unlike you, AP, most people enjoy that topic. And you"ve no idea how many people viewed it, because most people don't use (funky) Google Groups. ■ Big_Bad_Bob│BigBadBob-at-mrp3 sOWdnWC8BITLy-jAnZ2dnUU7-RPNnZ2d@earthlink.com Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle ql3p6d$iom$1@gioia.aioe.org Big_Bad_Bob│BigBadBob-at-mrp3 Sq-dnUcUspgy9ujAnZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@earthlink.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--6.48pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 9 m19 Cool; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Earthlink.COM, 66.47.136.67, Sep 8 { 1:59pm, 2019 }:27^(-7) Xσκვ Microsoft missionaries bursting through your door. Every time Microsoft forces another update it's like Mormon missionaries bursting through the door and taking over -- " What the fuck ?! ", people say; but it falls on deaf ears. ■ Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com nsYcF.462831$6H5.435896@fx45.iad MsNadegda ql1kl0$jcn$4@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37de028e7a4dfaecaea@news.altopia.com Kensi ql1vhn$bnm$3@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37de2a67c044867eafd@news.altopia.com MsNadegda ql3os3$jcn$7@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.8--6.02pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 7 m42 Cool; 4.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 8 { 1:38pm, 2019 }:27 Xσηʓ Neanderthals burned coal, Google it. Neanderthals burned coal, Google it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.21am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktrnp$ofc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--8.30am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qku9b5$hgr$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--1.42pm.Seattle.2019 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com ql1dcf$187$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--4.16pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 7 m575 Mad; 15 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Sep 7 { 4:10pm, 2019 }: 1^(-5) Xςჭϡ "drinking the Kool-Aid". Sergio replied ( to me ): > > Such people eat too much, have too much sex, > > birth too many kids, and are drinking the Kool-Aid. > > They live/die faster. > > some people had the Koolaid first, then sex, Google "drinking the Kool-Aid", if you can. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--5.55am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ ql0guv$suo$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--8.13am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ ql0ocn$7cs$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--10.49am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ ql19ee$a6h$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--4.03pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m70 Cool; 52.2 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 7 { 3: 2pm, 2019 }:56^(-6) XςტΑ Moses wrote the 10 Commandments. AnonLinuxUser replied ( to me ): > > > probe and understand the 10 commandments > > > > Would you be the only one following Moses ? > > What has that got to do with anything? Moses wrote the 10 Commandments. ■ Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktst6$9p$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot IcAcF.533903$on8.24095@fx46.iad AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qkupsi$eko$4@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot RkDcF.70034$mg2.41799@fx09.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--5.55am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot g5ScF.114081$_a4.19187@fx18.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--10.55am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m260 Dropped; 57 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 7 { 10:50am, 2019 }: 6^(-4) Xςиɾ I believe thinking is a virtue. Rabid_Robot wrote: > I'm sure alcoholics would be overjoyed to learn > that they're highly evolved, not bums. Unlike you, I believe thinking is a virtue; so I don't drink like that. Nor will I drink your Kool-Aid. ■ AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qkupsi$eko$4@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot RkDcF.70034$mg2.41799@fx09.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--5.55am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ ql0guv$suo$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--8.13am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ ql0ocn$7cs$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--10.49am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m68 Cool; 25.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 7 { 10:11am, 2019 }:54^(-6) Xςбჰ Would you be the only one following Moses ? AnonLinuxUser replied ( to me ): > you need to probe and understand what the 10 commandments are all about Would you be the only one following Moses ? Every society uses guns to steal from you, to control you. Every society unapologetically kills people. No society endorses your foolish " bed-bug God in the sky ". Again, You stopped thinking long ago. > This God that you talk about is the underlying consciousnes > of everything... including you and everybody else. God is nature; nothing more, nothing less. ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot ChucF.210515$OU6.2166@fx40.iad Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktst6$9p$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot IcAcF.533903$on8.24095@fx46.iad Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qkv0k4$e97$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--6.03am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ ql0deg$9e7$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--8.23am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m7 Shifty; 1.2 Hours, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 7 { 7: 4am, 2019 }:10^(-4) XςВϸ Enjoy your mindless life, Mayayana. Enjoy your mindless life, Mayayana. Evolution is beyond obvious. An old man up in the sky, waving a magic wand, making bedbugs resistant to our pesticides, is beyond ridiculous. "Free Will" ( the uncaused cause ) is absurd. ■ Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktst6$9p$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot IcAcF.533903$on8.24095@fx46.iad AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qkupsi$eko$4@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot RkDcF.70034$mg2.41799@fx09.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--5.55am.Seattle.2019 AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ ql0guv$suo$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--8.13am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m67 Cool; 2.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 7 { 8: 5am, 2019 }: 6^(-6) XςМр You stopped thinking. AnonLinuxUser replied ( to me ): > > "God" is that guy who creates those pesticide resistant bed-bugs ? > > How does he do it, a magic wand ? > > And how can you reject the obvious explanation: evolution ? > > You don't get it yet. Someday, you will. Only if I turn off my brain, like you have. You've been semi-randomly programed by "God" (nature) to exploit a niche -- to consume, like the sun. ■ T│T@invalid_invalid qkuude$4gm$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qkuvp6$abi$1@dont-email.me T│T@invalid_invalid qkv2lg$nd3$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--6.27am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 5 m114 Cool; 10.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 6 { 6:54pm, 2019 }:55^(-7) Xςʋt MANUALLY tell Win10 to open .VBS files using "CScript". MANUALLY tell Win10 to open .VBS files using "CScript". Win10 only trusts the manual choice, not apps/scripts. ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot N4ucF.533898$on8.533281@fx46.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.36am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot ChucF.210515$OU6.2166@fx40.iad Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktst6$9p$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot IcAcF.533903$on8.24095@fx46.iad Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qkv0k4$e97$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--6.03am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m47 Cool; 11.3 Hours, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 6 { 6:19pm, 2019 }:10^(-4) Xςʅȼ The truth hurts, no ? Mayayana dreamed: > if he moved them to a new pool their coloring would change to suit. > There's no way to explain such things with natural selection. Chameleons, squid and octopuses do the same thing, only better. Evolution has favored those who could rapidly change the color(s) of their skin. The truth hurts, no ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.36am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot ChucF.210515$OU6.2166@fx40.iad Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktst6$9p$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot IcAcF.533903$on8.24095@fx46.iad AnonLinuxUser│Anon@Linuxusers_ qkupsi$eko$4@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot RkDcF.70034$mg2.41799@fx09.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.7--5.55am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m112 Dropped; 11.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 6 { 6: 2pm, 2019 }:42^(-4) Xςʂʢ You didn't "submit" to anything, you just stopped thinking. Rabid_Robot wrote: > I went through Hell last year and > submitted to God in an effort to resolve my situation. "God" is that guy who creates those pesticide resistant bed-bugs ? How does he do it, a magic wand ? And how can you reject the obvious explanation: evolution ? You didn't "submit" to anything, you just stopped thinking so you could fuck more, eat more, breed more, and drink more of that delicious Kool-Aid. Q. And why do you want such things ?! A. Because you've been semi-randomly programed by "God" (nature) to exploit a niche -- to consume, like the sun. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.10pm.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktmmn$olt$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.21am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktrnp$ofc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--8.30am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qku9b5$hgr$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--1.42pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m5 Shifty; 1.4 Hours, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 6 { 11:41am, 2019 }:50^(-4) Xςȸწ "Free Will" is the uncaused cause ?! "Free Will" is the uncaused cause ?! It makes absolutely no sense. Not only do computers "think" they do so faster than you. Just because we run a different program, on different hardware, doesn't mean that we haven't been programmed. Again, we were semi-randomly programed by "God" (nature) to exploit various niches -- to consume, like the sun. Some people allow their primal selves to take control, suppressing their logical side -- and they do "OK". Such people eat too much, have too much sex, birth too many kids, and are drinking the Kool-Aid. They live/die faster. ■ MitchellRaemsch 25b465b8-f0a7-47fe-935b-a455bc03a121@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gtdvcuFqbnlU1@mid.individual.net HerbertGlazier 4cf142ce-ec7c-482b-8d41-9276048d8030@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--11.32am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m255 Mad; 38.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Sep 6 { 10:30am, 2019 }:38^(PDT) Xςtc "virtual" isn't the same is "real". Bert wrote: > They are called "virtual particles" > They do have an effect on atoms. "virtual" isn't the same is "real". When you're ignorant, "virtual" is the best you can do. "dark matter" is vacuum energy. ■ MitchellRaemsch 25b465b8-f0a7-47fe-935b-a455bc03a121@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier c6db7bfc-4d1d-49f3-b4fd-9f71a7019f8b@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--11.27am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m255 Mad; 57.4 Minutes, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Sep 6 { 10:11am, 2019 }:26^(PDT) Xςpე "God" (nature) doesn't play dice because "she" isn't ignorant. Bert wrote: > QM has met every test. Einstein lost with Bohr. "God" (nature) doesn't play dice because "she" isn't ignorant. If you think "God" is some lonely old man, up in the sky, then, sure, he plays dice all day long. ■ MrAA 65727ac2-1161-403a-b1f1-9dbc41dbec26@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--3.36pm.Seattle.2019 MrAA 654efb8e-8c8e-4b43-8aa4-9a1dd3d12494@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier 2402f45d-cfc5-46ee-8637-e79c58d58d3f@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.59pm.Seattle.2019 HerbertGlazier e062ba03-9369-449c-a95a-8f365c867adb@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--11.22am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 5 m255 Mad; 1.4 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Sep 6 { 9:44am, 2019 }:20^(PDT) Xςlʌ They'll buy from Vietnam, Taiwan and/or South Korea. Bert replied ( to me ): > > Bert's buddies denounce "evil capitalists", > > i.e. anyone who spends money wisely. > > If they win, hyperinflation will be the result, as always. > > If commie China raises its prices again, What Then ? You mean after people pay their 4 thousand $/month mortgage, property taxes, car insurance, fill up their tank, etc. ? They'll buy more from Vietnam, Taiwan, and/or South Korea. ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot RXecF.270159$BJ1.63861@fx43.iad HughHuntzinger aa95ea0f-e2ec-4c5c-80fa-114468c20cdd@googlegroups.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot L1gcF.379917$AR4.125838@fx39.iad HughHuntzinger 81e5fe0e-ddb9-4c09-9995-f65a602312fc@googlegroups.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot JzscF.210510$OU6.807@fx40.iad HughHuntzinger a59c19e2-fcfa-4a18-b4eb-5113317f724e@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--8.59am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m72 Top; 25.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Sep 6 { 8: 8am, 2019 }:51^(PDT) XςVʫ When someone doesn't adequately trust "WikiPedia.ORG". When someone doesn't adequately trust "WikiPedia.ORG", I adjust my conversation accordingly, and lower my expectations, or I just kill-file them. ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot u7scF.186937$9Z1.139189@fx41.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--6.35am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot N4ucF.533898$on8.533281@fx46.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.36am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot ChucF.210515$OU6.2166@fx40.iad Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktst6$9p$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--8.43am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 25 Minutes, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 6 { 8: 9am, 2019 }:36^(-4) XςVρ Programed by "God" (nature) to exploit niches. Mayayana wrote: > Jeff thinks we're all robots, Yes, programed by "God" (nature) to exploit niches. This idea goes back as far as human history itself. Spinoza ( 1650, Netherlands ) and Einstein talked about it. > yet somehow he also thinks that he can think. As do computers. > Nature seems to have cut corners by not hiring > a beta testing crew to make sure the robots function smoothly. Evolution. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 5ohcF.371537$oq9.353691@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.10pm.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktmmn$olt$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.21am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktrnp$ofc$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--8.30am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 14.3 Minutes, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 6 { 7:49am, 2019 }:39^(-4) XςSɣ Both the murderer and the executioner are completely innocent. Mayayana replied ( to me ): > > we're ( sustainably, robotically ) consuming, same as the sun. > > So we're basically machines. Yes, like the sun. > There is no meaning. We're programed to consume. Right or wrong, we love sex, food, and Apocalypse cults. > Nature, which you choose to leave undefined, controls us. Nature is everything, known and unknown. How could a lone man ("God") create MRSA, and pesticide resistant bed bugs ? Evolution is the only explanation. > You talk about valuing logic over impulse > and what benefits us. And why some people ( e.g. Rabid_Robot ) couldn't care less about it; and why they're doing OK without it. > What is value ? It's semi-random, "God" (nature) programmed us to consume. Different people, different species, different objects, have different niches. > Your worldview is mechanistic yet peppered with > value-laden judgements that seem to be unscrutinized. What are my "value-laden judgements" ? I said: Our logic is often faulty; and some prefer to live&die faster. Both the murderer and the executioner are completely innocent. The real world is fully causal; however, our ignorance makes it appear semi-random. > You seem to be finding a nihilistic view cozy, > and it absolves you of responsibility for your life. When I was young and innocent, like most of my associates, I was made to believe in a loving heavenly father. Coming to terms with harsh reality, e.g. evolution, -- such as, MRSA, Ebola and pesticide resistant bed bugs -- is not "an abolition of responsibility" -- quite the opposite. > Your philosophy doesn't hold water, > even at the most basic level. > It's irrational and uninspected. ....he said, looking in the mirror. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 5ohcF.371537$oq9.353691@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.10pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot u7scF.186937$9Z1.139189@fx41.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--6.35am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot N4ucF.533898$on8.533281@fx46.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.36am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m103 Cool; 26 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 6 { 7:31am, 2019 }: 9^(-4) XςPȻ How could a lone man create MRSA ? Rabid_Robot replied ( to me Hello): > > "God" is nature, evolution; not a man. > > In your opinion. How could a lone man create MRSA, and pesticide resistant bed bugs ? Evolution is the only explanation. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot A3gcF.379918$AR4.248386@fx39.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 5ohcF.371537$oq9.353691@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.10pm.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qktmmn$olt$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--7.21am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m42 Cool; 18.1 Minutes, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Sep 6 { 6:23am, 2019 }:45^(-4) XςDყ Religion, Sex and Food. Mayayana, "God" (nature) programmed us to like certain things, including religion, sex and food; however, not every primal desire benefits us. We can/do have inappropriate sex, eat too much food, and drink-in the Apocalypse cult's Kool-Aid. Too often, the logic of the left-brain isn't strong enough to overpower the primal desires of the right-brain. That said, our logic is often faulty; and some prefer to live&die faster. Either way, we're ( sustainably, robotically ) consuming, same as the sun. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot A3gcF.379918$AR4.248386@fx39.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 5ohcF.371537$oq9.353691@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.10pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot u7scF.186937$9Z1.139189@fx41.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.6--6.35am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 7 m102 Cool; 46.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 6 { 5:17am, 2019 }:30^(-4) Xς2ი My right-brain would reach out and slap a girl's tushy. Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ): > > nature/evolution creates things like MRSA and Ebola, > > not some bearded old lady in the sky. > > There is truly no reason to believe that God is an old lady. "God" is nature, evolution; not a man. We humans have a left- and a right- brain; the left-brain controls speech and logic; the right-brain is primal, animalistic. My right-brain would reach out and slap a girl's tushy; but my left-brain stops it, so I don't end up in jail. Religion appeals to your right-brain, your primal instincts, not logic. ■ MitchellRaemsch 25b465b8-f0a7-47fe-935b-a455bc03a121@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gtdvcuFqbnlU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--11.10pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m34 Top; 3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Sep 5 { 7:42pm, 2019 }:36^(10) XρЙa The farther you zoom, in or out, the fuzzier the picture. At the quantum level, you can't observe something without disturbing it. "dark energy" is just entropy. "dark matter" is vacuum energy. The farther you zoom, in or out, the fuzzier the picture. Note: This is a limitation of the observer, not reality itself. " The Known Universe " ( from here to the edge of our fast-moving horizon ) is going from infinitely hot+dense, with a static clock, and an infinitely-long ruler, to infinitely cold+sparse, with an infinitely-fast clock, and a null-length ruler. ■ MrAA 1df4e8d8-dec8-4f80-aa52-e6738adec59e@googlegroups.com SamWormley eb15ef9b-dfe8-4d48-a34a-d2f2452e4a6b@googlegroups.com MrAA 65727ac2-1161-403a-b1f1-9dbc41dbec26@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--3.36pm.Seattle.2019 MrAA 654efb8e-8c8e-4b43-8aa4-9a1dd3d12494@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier 2402f45d-cfc5-46ee-8637-e79c58d58d3f@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m250 Mad; 3.3 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Sep 5 { 7:22pm, 2019 }: 1^(PDT) XρЕϡ Deficit spending on an unprecedented level. Bert asked: > What is holding the market up ? Deficit spending on an unprecedented level. Negative interest rates in Asia and Europe. Again, this is unprecedented. My savings account loses 2 % per year, after inflation. My credit card charges me 29 % per year, before fees. Bert's buddies denounce "evil capitalists", i.e. anyone who spends money wisely. If they win, hyperinflation will be the result, as always. ■ Kensi qkptbo$3n3$3@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--2.43am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37da81fbfac8b050aa3@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall c533neplu34dq6ivbn30hh2phcmn4u5fo6@4ax.com PeeScent cgoo14.hcp.19.2@news.alt.net Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall kk63ne5krkk972reu7o6srkfvt1ai0iv4g@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.46pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m122 Dropped; 6.1 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 5 { 4:33pm, 2019 }:13^(-4) XρϛΣ Any hillbillies in them-thar Smoky Mountains ? Greg wrote: > I live in Western North Carolina about fifty miles > from the Tenessee border. Any hillbillies in them-thar Smoky Mountains ? ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot p2acF.99299$9J3.25407@fx11.iad HughHuntzinger acd18e79-e1b9-4d0f-918e-809495075ddc@googlegroups.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot RXecF.270159$BJ1.63861@fx43.iad HughHuntzinger aa95ea0f-e2ec-4c5c-80fa-114468c20cdd@googlegroups.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot L1gcF.379917$AR4.125838@fx39.iad HughHuntzinger 81e5fe0e-ddb9-4c09-9995-f65a602312fc@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.36pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m67 Top; 3.2 Hours, GoogleG, 173.54.111.20, Sep 5 { 7: 5pm, 2019 }:26^(PDT) XρВე Hyperinflation will be the result, as always. Jews were killed for being superior to Hitler's friends. Others were killed for being "inferior" (weak). Even today, we see the mainstream media denouncing "evil capitalists", i.e. anyone who spends money wisely. If they win, hyperinflation will be the result, as always. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--7.54am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot EV9cF.461867$6H5.356575@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot A3gcF.379918$AR4.248386@fx39.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 5ohcF.371537$oq9.353691@fx47.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--10.10pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m222 Mad; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 5 { 5: 4pm, 2019 }:17^(-4) XρϠϿ There is no free will, everyone is a RoboSlave. Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ): > > Preoccupying yourself with what's going on "out there" > > will just drive you nuts, nothing more; better to focus on > > something that you _ can _ change, like what you eat for lunch. > > we might as well just accept slavery and genocide I suppose. I was one of those Mormon missionaries, in São Paulo, Brazil, 1979. At the time, I thought: If "God" isn't "a loving father" then we're fucked. Then I grew up, and realized that nature/evolution creates things like MRSA and Ebola, not some bearded old lady in the sky; it's sad, but true. "God" is nature; nothing more, nothing less. And nature has programmed us to like certain things. "Randomness" is ignorance; nothing more, nothing less. There is no free will, everyone is a RoboSlave. ■ . qkmplu$r4d$1@dont-email.me . st544g-3jk.ln1@Telcontar.valinor . qkoeab$uje$1@dont-email.me . 7eRbF.368162$oq9.125264@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--7.54am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 6763net75vcv1ru388kk8m7f0eij7t2iue@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.55pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m80 Dropped; 4.5 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 5 { 4:27pm, 2019 }:39^(-4) XρϚτ MicroApartments are both cheaper and better. Greg replied ( to me ): > > Housemates diminish the quality of your life. > > We need to build more micro-studio apartments; > > "Apodments" builds+owns+operates them here, in Seattle. > > You are 100% correct, sir. > > It is unnatural to live in a dwelling with other people. > > Look at nature. Do you see male, female and chicks > in a bird nest? Do you see lion, lioness and cubs all > sharing the same rock? Exactly ! this is why micro-apartments are best. No "friends", no family, no housemates, no tenants; you can ignore the people around you unless-n-until they're delivering you lunch on an e-bike. MicroApartments are both cheaper and better. ■ . qkoeab$uje$1@dont-email.me . 7eRbF.368162$oq9.125264@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--7.54am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot EV9cF.461867$6H5.356575@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall qs53ne5160vt6f376o2pvtch85i9gec69e@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.44pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m80 Dropped; 4.6 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Sep 5 { 4:22pm, 2019 }:56^(-4) Xρϙж "HomeOwners" pay more, get less. Greg replied ( to me ): > > What's wrong with micro apartments ? > > For one, you rent or lease them when > owning real estate is the only way to fly. "HomeOwners" pay more, get less. I pay less for rent+utilities+Internet than they pay for assorted taxes-n-regulations. And, usually, they have more housemates|tenants|"friends", closer. In a micro-apartment, you can ignore the people around you unless-n-until they're delivering you lunch on an e-bike. > living in an apartment leads to mental health issues > involving privacy and secure personal space. HomeOwners get sued by their neighbors, bankers, inspectors and the taxman. If you obsess over such matters, it'll drive you crazy, because they're out of your control. > a log cabin in the mountains is the only way to fly. Sure, that's the next best thing, after a prison cell. In the city, you don't need|want a car. ■ . qkoeab$uje$1@dont-email.me . 7eRbF.368162$oq9.125264@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--7.54am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot EV9cF.461867$6H5.356575@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot A3gcF.379918$AR4.248386@fx39.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m10 Cool; 18.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 5 { 3:34pm, 2019 }: 8^(-4) Xρϐ϶ "God" (nature) has programmed you. I find it hard to believe that anyone that doesn't bother to read the UN's agenda must be stupid and lazy, Rabid_Robot. Preoccupying yourself with what's going on "out there" will just drive you nuts, nothing more; better to focus on something that you _ can _ change, like what you eat for lunch. [ In reality, you can't change anything because "God" (nature) has programmed you to like certain things, including things that aren't good for you. ] > Micro-apartments are the precursor to people > not even being allowed to own land Anything more is a needless burden; however, I welcome you to take on that burden, and more, as much as you can handle. ■ HerbertGlazier 562ba77b-9e53-40bc-86b4-017df99f6f67@googlegroups.com MrAA 1df4e8d8-dec8-4f80-aa52-e6738adec59e@googlegroups.com SamWormley eb15ef9b-dfe8-4d48-a34a-d2f2452e4a6b@googlegroups.com MrAA 65727ac2-1161-403a-b1f1-9dbc41dbec26@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--3.36pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m65 Top; 25.2 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Sep 5 { 2:55pm, 2019 }:53^(PDT) Xρτɱ If Trump wants to be re-elected. MrAA wrote: > I am fine with Trump so long as the market keeps making me money, > and the economy keeps improving. If Trump wants to be re-elected, he'll jack-up deficits even higher; so 2020 will be a good year ( for most ). After that, he can get all fiscally conservative, and the markets will crash. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d89461dfcd773ca6f@news.altopia.com Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkq3le$urj$2@gioia.aioe.org Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkq3n1$urj$3@gioia.aioe.org Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkq3vj$10l1$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--3.19am.Seattle.2019 Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkrupb$1njr$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--3.12pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m61 Cool; 25.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 5 { 2:30pm, 2019 }:18^(-7) XρπI A hop lover’s dream -- Goose Island IPA. Thomasson replied ( to me ): > > Goose Island IPA (Chicago) is very tasty. > > Never tried it. It's this one right: > https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1146/3968 Yep, " a hop lover’s dream, with a fruity aroma ". ■ RBH│fake@spamless_com qkqf19$v5j$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 3A7cF.99295$9J3.72377@fx11.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.36am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 5 m90 Cool; 3.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 5 { 5:54am, 2019 }:24^(-4) XρʁO Firefox's "Chrome" folder has nothing to do with Google's browser. Rabid_Robot replied ( to RBH ): > > Agent ransack found "Chrome" under MozillaFireFox. > > You're looking for _Chrome_ but found it in the _Firefox_ folder. Firefox's "Chrome" folder has nothing to do with Google's browser. ■ . qkmplu$r4d$1@dont-email.me . st544g-3jk.ln1@Telcontar.valinor . qkoeab$uje$1@dont-email.me . 7eRbF.368162$oq9.125264@fx47.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--7.54am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot EV9cF.461867$6H5.356575@fx45.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m216 Mad; 23 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 5 { 8:33am, 2019 }:58^(-4) XρʛϞ Are we still talking about micro apartments ? ! Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ): > > Housemates diminish the quality of your life. > > We need to build more micro-studio apartments; > > "Apodments" builds+owns+operates them here, in Seattle. > > Sounds to me like you're in favor of the UN's Agenda 2030. I have absolutely _ Zero _ involvement with the UN's agenda; until you, just now, I hadn't even heard of it. > Lucky for you, Seattle is filled with brain-dead cretins > who would support such a thing. Are we still talking about micro apartments ? ! What's wrong with them ? If you want to raise kids, be my guest -- have 10 of them; God knows _ someone _ has to do it. ■ 123456789│12345@12345_com qkm3i6$hr2$1@dont-email.me Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ q6q24g-053.ln1@Telcontar.valinor 123456789│12345@12345_com qkmplu$r4d$1@dont-email.me Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ st544g-3jk.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qkoeab$uje$1@dont-email.me Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot 7eRbF.368162$oq9.125264@fx47.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--7.54am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 13 m86 Cool; 22 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Sep 4 { 9: 2am, 2019 }:12^(-4) XπЦʄ Housemates diminish the quality of your life. Mayayana wrote: > > young "professionals" are ganging up in apartments, > > like college students. Housemates diminish the quality of your life. We need to build more micro-studio apartments; "Apodments" builds+owns+operates them here, in Seattle. Once, family was your retirement; now it's the opposite. Today, you can't trust a woman to not take "your" kids, paycheck, dignity, and savings. Not even Jeff Bezos can avoid the issue. The smartest people in the world, "The Asian Tigers", have a "fertility rate" of .98 kids per woman per lifetime. Replacement level is 2.08 kids. The house I was raised in, here in North Seattle, is now worth 1.2 million $. Back then, only dad worked, no one else; his wife and 6 kids relied on him. > I consciously made the decision to work in a field where > I can get lots of time off to "smell the roses". Jack Ma says everyone should work 3 days a week, 12 hours total; and that's exactly what I've been doing ever since 1988, age 28, when my wife ditched me for another man. I invest in myself, mainly, because I can't trust anyone else. ■ Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkmi77$1h8j$1@gioia.aioe.org PeeScent cgj81j.o5.17.2@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d89461dfcd773ca6f@news.altopia.com Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkq3le$urj$2@gioia.aioe.org Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkq3n1$urj$3@gioia.aioe.org Chris_M_Thomasson│chris_m_ qkq3vj$10l1$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--3.19am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m61 Cool; 3.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Sep 4 { 9:46pm, 2019 }:43^(-7) XρlЩ Goose Island IPA. Thomasson wrote: > when shit hits the fan, slam a couple: > > Earthquake High Gravity Lager (12%) > City Brewing Company LLC, Wisconsin Goose Island IPA (Chicago) is very tasty. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d8395fdfe8abeea5c@news.altopia.com Kensi qknqff$q7r$1@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d92d524d823ae5a80@news.altopia.com Kensi qko3vt$50a$2@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d9a2a84885413a8d@news.altopia.com Kensi qkptbo$3n3$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--2.43am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m106 Cool; 5.8 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 4 { 7:53pm, 2019 }:42^(2) XρSფ Roman Coal. Kensi replied ( to Checky ): > > > > The Romans used coal for heating > > > > in England back in 100-200 BC. > > [citation needed] Next time you're lucky enough to have access to Google try searching for: Roman Coal Quoting " ancient-romans-in-britain ": Some awareness of coal appeared in the western world around 375 BCE. The Greek naturalist philosopher, Theophrastus, a pupil of Aristotle’s, wrote about stones found in north Italy, which kindled, burned and were used by smiths. At this time, and in this part of the world, however, a demand for coal had not yet arisen; wood was available as a primary fuel and energy source. Coal, or its residue, has been found among the ruins of ancient Roman sites in Britain near the nation’s coalfields. Following their invasion of Britain, after 43 CE, Romans discovered British coal and gradually began making use of it. Upon discovering that coal offered superior heat over wood and charcoal, Roman soldiers began to burn coal to melt and shape iron for weaponry. ■ HerbertGlazier 7832ae68-ed0a-4576-bae0-09e82efd8290@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gtbo37Fbp5qU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.5--2.05am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m33 Top; 2.3 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Sep 4 { 11:25pm, 2019 }:43^(10) Xρȶɧ The Known Universe. Bert wrote: > > Universe had [ a slower standard clock ] when it was younger > > and only one light year in diameter. " The Known Universe " ( from here to the edge of our fast-moving horizon ) is going from infinitely hot+dense, with a static clock, and an infinitely-long ruler, to infinitely cold+sparse, with an infinitely-fast clock, and a null-length ruler. ■ whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net qkm6q1$6r1$1@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d84019633529aba60@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall e38tmetendo3fb2694c9rcvna8c7p4d7j8@4ax.com Kensi qknqiq$q7r$2@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d92e4fa0455d9ca81@news.altopia.com Kensi qko434$50a$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--8.04am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m103 Cool; 3.6 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 4 { 3:36am, 2019 }:17^(2) XπϑH People were digging up coal in China, 6'000 years ago. People were digging up coal in China, 6'000 years ago; 3'000 years ago, they were using it to smelt copper. ■ Kensi qknokh$hf6$1@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d90bb89041cc0fa7b@news.altopia.com Kensi qknr94$saq$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--7.45am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m103 Cool; 6.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 4 { 1: 5am, 2019 }:53^(2) Xπαჯ Only a desperate fool would trust women. Kensi wrote: > Misogynistic myth #47: women are just using men for money. True, some of them just want crack. Either way, only a desperate fool would trust them. > myth #3: relationships are transactional and zero-sum affairs. The more you kiss a man's ass, the faster he should run. > take-climate-change-seriously Fuck your Apocalypse cult. You're better at stealing money from "evil capitalists" ( i.e. anyone who spends money wisely ) than winning hearts. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d84cae48eae2f7a68@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 30ctmet0ho5mp1jp22md1t3n4j7vj278u3@4ax.com Pandora│pandora@peak_org cgj1eb.p0t.19.3@news.alt.net Kensi qknpej$jpq$2@gioia.aioe.org Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d90c492be54e49a7d@news.altopia.com Kensi qknqua$saq$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--7.32am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 7 m103 Cool; 6.2 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Sep 4 { 1: am, 2019 }: 7^(2) Xπα7 Stop being so deluded, Kensi. Stop being so deluded, Kensi, you haven't swayed anyone, least of all Checky. No one feels like you've "spanked" them, or anything like that. ■ RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qk6fb3$p8d$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qk6neq$lva$1@dont-email.me RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qk7cpd$o3q$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--9.56pm.Seattle.2019 RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qki1nd$16o8$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--9.46pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 7 m24 Cool; 1.4 Hours, Outlook, Aioe.ORG, Sep 1 { 8:19pm, 2019 }: 2^(-4) XοXȴ Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? RHB replied ( to me ): > > Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? > > No. Would that help show if it's a hardware problem? I don't know, I can't know, please tell me. > I have the BIOS window open as someone suggested > but with no cursor there I can't see how I'll know > if the cursor goes crazy. You can't mouse ? You must have an old machine. ■ PeeScent cgb1ka.abd.17.2@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d45e4a327100a3a2a@news.altopia.com Kensi qkfehn$1tcj$2@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--2.26am.Seattle.2019 Chris_M_Thomasson│invalid_ qkheq8$nfa$2@gioia.aioe.org Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com OuZaF.211102$Zz1.176969@fx35.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--9.38pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m13 Dropped; 1.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Sep 1 { 5:37pm, 2019 }: 1^(-6) Xο6z 15 minute earthquakes don't impress Tokyoites. Someone wrote: > In Seattle, 1965, a 6.5 magnitude earthquake killed 3 people. In Seattle, rain fades into the background, barely noticed; likewise, 15 minute earthquakes don't impress Tokyoites. ■ HerbertGlazier 6e4f2e4e-25d0-429e-aee0-48e110b6d456@googlegroups.com MrAA 9a9f9a4c-9f79-41b6-8dd7-99431b03926f@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--5.10pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m72 Top; 1.2 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Sep 1 { 3:44pm, 2019 }:35^(PDT) Xξჩʛ Something's Spinning. MrAA replied ( to Bert ): > > Spinning is Universe"s #1 action. > > It fits with my 3 best Nobel theories. > > The universe is spinning ? Either that, or his head is spinning; it's relative. ■ !Jones│x@y_com 6g7imehnh6ola67s7kcci88umb92sclfqg@4ax.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qkbbvu$b5i$2@gioia.aioe.org !Jones│x@y_com v83jmeldnu6hb45jm4d8fn3fqumhoen3l8@4ax.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qkcod3$cs7$1@gioia.aioe.org !Jones│x@y_com 3bpkmehd62nsuvquiguckm1kd5p1e6rvkn@4ax.com Kensi qkff1h$9m$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--2.34am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m83 Cool; 5.1 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 31 { 8:47pm, 2019 }:53^(2) Xξʝჯ Kensi would kill Bill Gates. Give money to a young Bill Gates and you get Microsoft. Give it to a typical minimum-wage worker and he'll wind up dead and/or bankrupt. Money is overrated, and the stress of running a large tech company is under-appreciated; -- people like you, Kensi, would kill Bill Gates. ■ PeeScent cg8t79.ikf.19.7@news.alt.net Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall bv9jme1fmqhdeg8f9i545lm7u084l91i80@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d3b0a42d5037d2a25@news.altopia.com PeeScent cgb1ka.abd.17.2@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d45e4a327100a3a2a@news.altopia.com Kensi qkfehn$1tcj$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.1--2.26am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 6 m83 Cool; 5.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 31 { 8:39pm, 2019 }:27^(2) Xξʜθ No one has ever died in a Seattle earthquake. No one has ever died in a Seattle earthquake. The 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens ( a 3 hour drive from Seattle ) killed 57 people -- hurricane Katrina killed 1'833. The 2011 Tōhoku earthquake + (133 ft) tsunami killed 19'000+ people. Residents within a 12 mile radius of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant and a 6.2 mile radius of the Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Plant were evacuated. To normalize market conditions, The Bank of Japan injected 15 trillion ¥ ( 183 billion $ ) into the banking system. ■ SC_Tom│sc@tom_net qjtvvp$b62$1@dont-email.me wasbit│wasbitREMOVE@hotmail_ qk2t82$u9s$1@dont-email.me SC_Tom│sc@tom_net qk34ca$5hu$1@dont-email.me wasbit│wasbitREMOVE@hotmail_ qk5fqn$bnh$1@dont-email.me Apd│not@all_invalid qk68t1$1r8l$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--10.57pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m2 Cool; 3.5 Days, Outlook, POSTED.UmUl➤Aioe.ORG, Aug 28 { 9: 7am, 2019 }: 7^(1) Xμfȹ Anti-spam masters -- Was: OT: Oh, the joys of spam Anti-spam masters assign a separate email address to each-and-every person/app. That way, if you get spamed, you know who did it, and you can kill the (custom) address. To do this, you need to run your own email server, as I do. ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 9j0mmetjhomlibuap93c70t0ds2c002nof@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qkfa5l$kpv$1@dont-email.me Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com c8dmmetrnqr6os889p4oqerumbmgbjf3la@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qkfj4l$nk5$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--10.44pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m176 Top; 13.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 31 { 9:57pm, 2019 }:59^(-4) Xξʩϟ Customizing Win10, FireFox v69, and Visual Studio 2019. On my Win10, 4k PC, it looks like: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Relfs-File-Explorer.PNG which is a result of: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Black.Theme.TXT Remove the ".TXT" extension and then double-click it. To skin WebPages ( FireFox v69 ): http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT To skin FireFox v69 itself: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT Remove the ".TXT" extensions, put them in your profile's "chrome" folder, and set: user_pref("toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets", true); On Google Chrome use the "Dark Reader" extension. Microsoft Edge _ kinda _ works right out-of-the-box, no extension needed. The changes I've made to FireFox provides the most readable text, but it doesn't always work, sometimes I need to launch Chrome ( right-click "Alt Browser" -- my version of the "Open in IE" extension ). Here's a screenshot of my YouTube comment history in Firefox v69, Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG If all this (above) isn't difficult enough for you, you should see how I skinned the latest version of Visual Studio 2019: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual.Studio.2019.PNG ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 9j0mmetjhomlibuap93c70t0ds2c002nof@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qkfa5l$kpv$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--7.41pm.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 310820192317595596%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--9.22pm.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 010920190036166300%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--10.16pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m67 Cool; 35.6 Minutes, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 31 { 9:36pm, 2019 }:16^(-4) XξʦG Red is red, blue is blue, white is white, and you're a moron. Some rando replied ( to me ): > > Ctrl-Wheel is the _ proper _ way to do it, moron. > > false, and resorting to insults means you have nothing. Red is red, blue is blue, white is white, and you're a moron. ■ RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qk6fb3$p8d$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qk6neq$lva$1@dont-email.me RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qk7cpd$o3q$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--9.56pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 9 m17 Cool; 3.1 Days, Outlook, Aioe.ORG, Aug 28 { 7:20pm, 2019 }:29^(-4) Xμʏʕ Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 9j0mmetjhomlibuap93c70t0ds2c002nof@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qkfa5l$kpv$1@dont-email.me Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com c8dmmetrnqr6os889p4oqerumbmgbjf3la@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--9.41pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m13 Cool; 1.1 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 31 { 8: 4pm, 2019 }:24^(10) XξʖЖ Relf's File Explorer. Pete replied ( to Paul ): > > how-to-change-highlighting-color-on-folder-selection > > -windows-10-in-file-explorer > > > > High contrast themes look like puke. > > youtube.com/watch?v=lPZtqoDD0Bc > ....worth a try? On my Win10, 4k PC, it looks like: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Relfs-File-Explorer.PNG ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 9j0mmetjhomlibuap93c70t0ds2c002nof@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qkfa5l$kpv$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--7.41pm.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 310820192317595596%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--9.22pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 12 m65 Cool; 54.3 Minutes, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 31 { 8:17pm, 2019 }:59^(-4) Xξʘჵ Ctrl-Wheel -- Was: Windows is a monopoly. Some rando replied ( to me ): > > One should be able to increase/decrease the font size > > displayed in a file Explorer window using Ctrl-Wheel. > > The fact that we can't, is direct proof that Windows is a monopoly. > > you obviously don't understand what a monopoly is, If there were "a decent alternative" ( no monopoly ), we could Ctrl-Wheel, as we do in Chrome, Edge and Firefox. > nor do you understand how to change font sizes. Ctrl-Wheel is the _ proper _ way to do it, moron. ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall fp7jme1a9d5dh8satro7n3d9s3p2mqmoq5@4ax.com PeeScent cg8t79.ikf.19.7@news.alt.net Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall bv9jme1fmqhdeg8f9i545lm7u084l91i80@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d3b0a42d5037d2a25@news.altopia.com PeeScent cgb1ka.abd.17.2@news.alt.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d45e4a327100a3a2a@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.31--4.14pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m59 Cool; 4 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Aug 31 { 11:37am, 2019 }:51^(-7) Xξȸɯ Do people think Checky is Chris Caputo ? I didn't know you lived in Seattle, Checky. Do people think you're Chris Caputo ? You're unwilling to meet with me, here in Seattle, I suppose. ■ Fang_Yong│fangyong1961@webname_ nepgmedjslurtk0tckage2eeb1onuap5nm@4ax.com Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com antgmep49gles8b0lh8g9p3n0r3fpq2i17@4ax.com Fang_Yong│fangyong1961@webname_ dk6ime1q5ch66l7jr6pimo8g4emarv7765@4ax.com ScottDoty gstphrFbbhiU1@mid.individual.net Fang_Yong│fangyong1961@webname_ facjmehdvnrrgbe2e6n49je5arjiolau05@4ax.com ScottDoty gstrrqFbbhiU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--6.00pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m80 Top; 11.9 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Aug 30 { 5: 4pm, 2019 }:10 XνϠϸ "SSD drives are too slow" ? Scott replied ( to Fang ): > > I have a Gigabyte Designare with 64 G and > > all NVME/PCI and SSD drives. > > SSD drives are too slow, this guys should go all NVME x4, as I have. What do you mean "SSD drives are too slow" ? Are you talking about a "PCIe Gen 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.3" SSD, like my "970 EVO Plus" ( Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec ) ? > > Point is, under Linux you can't get a high end graphics card working > > without tearing. Look it up. > > I'm using a GTX 1080ti with NVidia drivers, > KSP is smooth as silk (no "tearing"). What video player are you using, or do you not play .mp4 videos ? What soft-phone are you using ? > I have a Logitech G700s. > I have no desire to remap the buttons. Then "Linux" is for you, I suppose. > > Then you can look up getting 5:1 audio, FULLY WORKING, > > along with all manufacturer's control panel software to control it. > > This guys is still out to lunch -- when I use 5.1 audio, > pulse shows 5.1 audio. My "Logitech g635 USB HeadSet" has been tested and proven to work as well as the best theater set up. As an added benefit, I don't disturb my housemates. > > And last but not least, how about printers? > > Lol! Good luck with that one. > > Linux uses the same printing system as on Apples: CUPS. Are you printing, scanning, and copying documents ? What "printer" are you using ? > -v | Two-time winner of the Checky™. Why does Checky's opinion matter ? ■ RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com qk97dj$opq$14@dont-email.me flyer│chillywillie0o@aol_com MPG.37d22cb57f724e07989680@usnews.blocknews.net RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com qka1nd$6an$1@dont-email.me MrChrisV lr3imello4vfiq85fl58747hlgb8tubvom@4ax.com RonB│ronb02NOSPAM@gmail_com qkc2ui$3ec$2@dont-email.me Fang_Yong│fangyong1961@webname_ sr3jmethkn3rpmcd1jcda1ou07f97d17l0@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--3.23pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m30 Shifty; 1 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 30 { 2: 8pm, 2019 }:44^(-4) Xνμʤ No Linux-based OS can do this. Fang Yong wrote: > So tell me, how do you get a multi-button mouse working under Linux > where you can EASILY program the buttons to perform tasks like > launching web browser etc. Tell me, can Linux do this ? No Linux-based OS can do: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 5budmet7muupn9pkd2gmr4tll60hccja9n@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d0b8bfa4f407309e5@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 5c8emeli768tbqd1og2skc9n29sv0angsn@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d0c58ebe6499659f1@news.altopia.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ueaemet8ev6tnck1fepv384k72ifp3342f@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37d13c2d5259a99ca0e@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.30--0.53pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m129 Cool; 1.4 Days, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Aug 29 { 2:35am, 2019 }:15^(-7) Xμπщ Checky hasn't graduated to multi-font character sets. Checky replied ( to Greg ): > > > > a ?likely carcinogen.? > > > > What's with those question marks in your reply, Checky ? > > If it had been typed using a standard compatible > character set, it wouldn't have gotten borked. Greg's "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8" is mainstream/standard. Checky hasn't graduated to multi-font character sets. ■ HerbertGlazier 98aea0c7-fd11-47b7-a785-86a08d34fffa@googlegroups.com MrAA f9992f9b-9c2a-4efe-b7ef-d31821d9a962@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.27--2.29pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m66 Top; 47 Secs, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 27 { 2:24pm, 2019 }:46^(PDT) Xλοk No one could survive the center of the earth. No one could survive the center of the earth, the pressure+temperature is too great. ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot fTb9F.29511$mg2.4503@fx09.iad jobber│jobbers711man@eccentric_ qk3i93$rtm$10@dont-email.me Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com 7ukamelhj3kcqf2sro8vhebh84fkk2gtjp@4ax.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot x%c9F.281558$597.168855@fx17.iad Joel│joelcrump@gmail_com appamet1g6tqt5an0k3p9f1pqholopl05e@4ax.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot NCe9F.233609$gM.57406@fx19.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.27--0.46pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m91 Mad; 1.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 27 { 11:27am, 2019 }:58^(-4) XλΙϞ Forte Agent is simpler, not better. Forte Agent is simpler, not better. ■ . The richer you are, the less family makes sense; proof: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG Also, creating a Google or a Facebook is fun, but working for them is not -- I can't imagine why you'd ever do it, Patrick Shyu. You don't have to travel if you already appreciate home. On USENET you can learn about the human animal because all moderation is left to the individual. My posts ( since Feb 2012 ): http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Posts.TXT ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--3.49pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall l6g3mehe29astjkaq7l66ii17fdrc00dot@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--4.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall p2k3me15ikhmkr5g05ep0kdk6f5i90bi7l@4ax.com MrChrisV iij7me9osu4c0clhb01p9tik5ih50svbso@4ax.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall smp7mehgu3rpr1tsv0ig5dj4kcv44rmjh0@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.26--2.06pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m103 Dropped; 5.3 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 26 { 7: 7am, 2019 }:14^(-4) XκГɀ China ranks first in worldwide farm output. Quoting Wikipedia: China, with one-fifth of the world's population, accounts for two-thirds of the world's reported aquaculture production. China ranks first in worldwide farm output, primarily producing rice, wheat, potatoes, tomato, sorghum, peanuts, tea, millet, barley, cotton, oilseed and soybeans. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--3.49pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall l6g3mehe29astjkaq7l66ii17fdrc00dot@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--4.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall p2k3me15ikhmkr5g05ep0kdk6f5i90bi7l@4ax.com MrChrisV iij7me9osu4c0clhb01p9tik5ih50svbso@4ax.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall smp7mehgu3rpr1tsv0ig5dj4kcv44rmjh0@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.26--10.31am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m85 Dropped; 2.8 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 26 { 7: 7am, 2019 }:14^(-4) XκГɀ Bankrupt farmers might vote "anyone but Trump". Bankrupt farmers might vote "anyone but Trump". When it comes to food, China has many options; Brazil is the world's leading soybean exporter. ■ ~BD~│Doh@Im_a_good_guy_ RoN8F.1984$6w4.332@fx25.fr7 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qk0ijj$5ho$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.26--9.44am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m196 Top; 3.8 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 26 { 5:16am, 2019 }:51^(-4) Xκϰб Any ideas on how to find a message on Usenet? ~BD~ asked: > When "al.howardknight.net" closes down, how will > folk be able to locate posts by their Message-ID ? When a post isn't exclusive to a non-indexed group ( e.g. not exclusive to "Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10" ), this works ( Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--6.20pm.Seattle.2019 ): https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/messageid$3AJeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--6.20pm.Seattle.2019 Also, you could buy a 5 $ block from "BlockNews.NET" and/or "Usenet-News.NET", as their archives go back 15 years. 5 $ will last you several life times. The "References:" line adds context. If your newsreader doesn't support "Message-ID" lookups, you can always get one that does. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--3.58pm.Seattle.2019 PeeScent cfrqpq.fgd.19.1@news.alt.net Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall d566me5e6iad5j12ebqcd8besmlril8497@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--6.20pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m82 Dropped; 1.5 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 25 { 4:28pm, 2019 }: 5^(-4) Xκɲϳ The least-crappy choice. Greg and PeeScent replied: > > > Seattle: Have a dense and a car, or be homeless. > > > > i live where there are no homeless > > Same here. It's like Mr. Relf has no other choice > in his mind but to live in squalor. I'm not dead yet; so I'm staying in Seattle, the home of Boeing, Starbucks, Microsoft, Amazon, etc.. Rather than enduring thieving junkies on the streets, Seattle should offer them "all the drugs you can inject" in the privacy of their own little micro-apartment. If that fails, there's always rehab and/or jail. Again, it's the least-crappy choice. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.25--3.58pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Seattle: Have a family and a car, or be homeless. Quoting "The Market Urbanism Report" (Scott Beyer), Sep, 2018: Seattle has proven that there is a contingent of the workforce that's young, single, of varying income ranges and urban-oriented [carless]. This demographic today must live in larger apartments that have multiple rooms and roommates, and thus offer limited privacy. What the demographic actually wants is to live alone in studio apartments, even if those apartments are really small. But those units aren’t available because cities [ like Seattle ] make them illegal. Why would Seattle impose insane housing regulations, like ensuring "adequate" parking spaces, when Seattle Transit is preferable to owning a car ? They want you to have a family and a car, or be homeless, begging for drugs, apparently. No in-between. Sure, low-income housing increases litter and graffiti, but the alternative is worse. Sometimes, you have to choose the alternative that sucks less. ■ . qjs3qc$gni$23@dont-email.me . MPG.37cb5a8a9ef5b50898f@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--3.49pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall l6g3mehe29astjkaq7l66ii17fdrc00dot@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--4.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall p2k3me15ikhmkr5g05ep0kdk6f5i90bi7l@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--5.50pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m84 Dropped; 9.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 24 { 5: 9pm, 2019 }:37^(-4) Xιϡς Asia doesn't need the West. Greg replied ( to me ): > > Asia is the world's primary producer. > > And by virtue of their huge population > they consume most of it domestically. Which is why they don't need us, the West. > > They're are far more educated than you, Greg. > > That is a non sequitur. > Education and production are two different topics. They have the highest IQs and the highest test scores. I wouldn't want them on my football team; but, other than that, they're pretty bad ass. > Don't be like Snit, now. Snit hates capitalists, I'm nothing like that; capitalists are long-suffering, they deserve more. > Your [White] Tenga Flip Zero assessment was spot on. > That fucking thing feels better than pussy. Glad to hear it. It doesn't leak; Vaseline lasts longer; paper towels keep your hands dry; split open, it dries-out by itself; and doesn't demand "child" support. By the way, no one should buy the electronic version of it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--11.16am.Seattle.2019 . qjs42n$gni$24@dont-email.me . 1145472a-ee8f-48e8-89e9-7e151b55bf81@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--4.51pm.Seattle.2019 PeeScent cfp8af.io.17.7@news.alt.net Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall qnj3me9b7vq2dlet8nkcrtgmq93iq65afs@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--5.07pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m5 Dropped; 2.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 24 { 4:58pm, 2019 }:31^(-4) XιϟН Has PeeScent visited Utah ?! > > > I asked my ex's lover to adopt the kids, and he did. > > > They live in the fanciest part of Salt Lake City, > > > up on the mountain, at the mouth of Little Cottonwood Canyon. > > > > that's not the richest part of salt lake, park city is > > LOL! Park City is a freaking ski resort, you fool. Has PeeScent visited Utah ?! SnowBird and SunDance are better ski resorts. None of them are as good as where PeeScent lives. ■ . gsc6pvFgi7cU1@mid.individual.net . MPG.37ca87e1f13d10a2977@news.altopia.com . qjs3qc$gni$23@dont-email.me . MPG.37cb5a8a9ef5b50898f@news.altopia.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--3.49pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall l6g3mehe29astjkaq7l66ii17fdrc00dot@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--4.59pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m80 Dropped; 9.1 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 24 { 3:59pm, 2019 }:54^(-4) Xιϕჰ Today's sprinkles does not a rain forest make. High on ganja, Greg wrote: > Ain't no way Asia can possibly win a trade war. How could they lose ? they're the world's primary producer. They're are far more educated than you, Greg. > the idiot Chinese have had to devalue their Yuan. Today's sprinkles does not a rain forest make. ■ . AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot X8c8F.70378$la1.38554@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--11.16am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qjs42n$gni$24@dont-email.me nuny@bid_nes│alien8752@gmail_ 1145472a-ee8f-48e8-89e9-7e151b55bf81@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--4.51pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 14 m34 Cool; 12.7 Minutes, GoogleG, 172.242.254.97, Aug 24 { 3:56pm, 2019 }:22^(PDT) Xιϕʎ The richer you are, the more family is a liability. Mark L. Fergerson, don't project your idiotic desires onto me. I've more than enough money, love, and "sex". Women are paid billions of dollars to ditch their husbands. Every dollar you make is another reason to divorce. Other than that, money had nothing to do with my divorce. She wanted more kids, and more Mormonism, and I wasn't having it. I asked my ex's lover to adopt the kids, and he did. They live in the fanciest part of Salt Lake City, up on the mountain, at the mouth of Little Cottonwood Canyon. The richer you are, the more family is a liability; proof: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG ■ . AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty gsc6pvFgi7cU1@mid.individual.net Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37ca87e1f13d10a2977@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qjs3qc$gni$23@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37cb5a8a9ef5b50898f@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--3.49pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 20 m139 Cool; 12.1 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Aug 24 { 3:31pm, 2019 }:16^(-7) XιϐɄ Asia is poised to win the trade war. The West won The Cold War; the Soviets lost. Asia is poised to win the trade war. ■ RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qjks8o$453$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qjl2aa$98d$1@dont-email.me RHB│Anywhere@mars_net qjs1st$6vc$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qjs263$83h$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--0.21pm.Seattle.2019 RHB│Anywhere@mars_net qjs4nh$mli$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--1.50pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 6 m6 Shifty; 34.3 Minutes, Outlook, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 24 { :55pm, 2019 }:29^(-4) XιΩə Have you tried unpluging your microphone ? RHB replied ( to me ): > > RHB isn't making sense. > > When I suggested a solution, he told me it was fixed, > > and that I should read the thread to see the solution. > > Wrong person. It was not fixed and I do not know the solution. Sorry, RHB, I got you confused with Rene Lamontagne, with his printer problem. > It's not the mouse because the touch pad is the same > and the touch screen doesn't work when this happens - mouse attached or not. Have you tried unpluging your microphone ? If that doesn't work, try unplugging and/or disabling other devices. ■ Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot X8c8F.70378$la1.38554@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--11.16am.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ j203melpsp3cus031l4tetkhipmuqfr5oe@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--0.13pm.Seattle.2019 whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net qjs3pl$hdk$1@dont-email.me The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ l753me5ec4e93mg8l63tamrk9mu3s6p1hs@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--1.37pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m78 Dropped; 38.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds, Aug 24 { :50pm, 2019 }:53^(-5) XιΨʭ You morons keep replying to me. > > why do you cross post so much and add so little > > Yeah, why is that Jeff Relf ? > Inquiring minds vant to know ! Because you morons keep replying to me. ■ RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qjks8o$453$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qjl2aa$98d$1@dont-email.me RHB│Anywhere@mars_net qjs1st$6vc$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qjs263$83h$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--0.21pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m204 Top; 4.7 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 24 { :12pm, 2019 }: 6^(-4) XιΡ6 RHB isn't making sense. RHB isn't making sense. When I suggested a solution, he told me it was fixed, and that I should read the thread to see the solution. Has he tried a different mouse, in a different USB port ? ■ . lnrvle5rohko82dopmesi5gn46tmvaudmq@4ax.com . AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot X8c8F.70378$la1.38554@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--11.16am.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ j203melpsp3cus031l4tetkhipmuqfr5oe@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--0.13pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m17 Dropped; 45.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds, Aug 24 { 11:23am, 2019 }:15^(-5) XιΘщ Not everyone is a whore. Some rando told me: > you look like death warmed over Not everyone is a whore, like you. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--9.35am.Seattle.2019 jerryab@juno_com utftle57s9khi5onsenccfb2knlk8eqjbu@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.01am.Seattle.2019 jerryab@juno_com lnrvle5rohko82dopmesi5gn46tmvaudmq@4ax.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad jerryab@juno_com hio2met3nkn2cbtpv50q6sc1t7mono8qd6@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--0.06pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m4 Dropped; 1.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 24 { 9:42am, 2019 }:19^(-5) XιʧJ If people want tariffs, they'll elect Trump. Trump didn't want to dissuade Christmas shoppers, so his 10% tariffs on computers and monitors were delayed until December 15th. Personally, I think most of the "tariff damage" will happen after he's elected, if he is elected; if people want tariffs, they'll elect him. Presidents tend to be generous in their first 4-year term, then get all "fiscally conservative" in their second term, because re-election isn't an option; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG Chairman Xi doesn't have to worry about elections, like that. ■ . utftle57s9khi5onsenccfb2knlk8eqjbu@4ax.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.01am.Seattle.2019 . lnrvle5rohko82dopmesi5gn46tmvaudmq@4ax.com . AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot X8c8F.70378$la1.38554@fx33.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.24--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 11 m73 Mad; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 24 { 7:50am, 2019 }:32^(-4) Xιʔʘ If you have 2 brain cells, and they're holding hands... Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ): > > The poor are getting poorer; if I were president, > > I'd house them in ultra-tiny studio apartments ( no common areas ); > > designed in such a way that bed-bugs ( and noise ) > > can't easily travel from room to room. > > Western governments are going to convince citizens that > they need to move into [ tiny, childless ] apartments I'm talking about getting homeless people off the streets; their choice would be: Tiny Studio Apartments, Rehab, or Jail. Let them do drugs, but keep them away from "us". Family used to be a man's retirement plan; today, it's quite the opposite. If you have 2 brain cells, and they're holding hands, then you know better than to trust your future to an "empowered" woman. ■ jerryab@juno_com utftle57s9khi5onsenccfb2knlk8eqjbu@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.01am.Seattle.2019 jerryab@juno_com lnrvle5rohko82dopmesi5gn46tmvaudmq@4ax.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad JeffRelf Jeffship-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 T│T@invalid_invalid qjpqu0$2jo$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--4.27pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 6 m86 Cool; 27.1 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 23 { 3:56pm, 2019 }: ^(-7) Xθძɸ Thank you, Ms T. Thank you, Ms T., the more you reply to me, the more I'm seen. ■ . qjhp3f$jd6$32@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--9.35am.Seattle.2019 jerryab@juno_com utftle57s9khi5onsenccfb2knlk8eqjbu@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.01am.Seattle.2019 jerryab@juno_com lnrvle5rohko82dopmesi5gn46tmvaudmq@4ax.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot AdY7F.68688$Zz1.63313@fx35.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 6 m14 Cool; 6.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 23 { 1:43pm, 2019 }:13^(-4) Xθვȿ If I were president... In the latter part of their 8 year stints as president, Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama got fiscally conservative, ushering in notional "recessions"; prompting voters to flip, Democrat to Republican, and vice versa; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG For that reason, I doubt we'll see a recession in 2020. Yet the poor are getting poorer; if I were president, I'd house them in ultra-tiny studio apartments ( no common areas ); designed in such a way that bed-bugs ( and noise ) can't easily travel from room to room. ■ Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gs84dkFkklfU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.23--1.48pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.Periphs.Printers ╱ 6 m46 Cool; 1.1 Days, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Aug 22 { 11:15am, 2019 }:14^(-5) XθȴΤ Un-install your Okidata c5150n Printer completely. Rene_Lamontagne, Un-install your Okidata c5150n Printer completely. Reinstall it using a version that works with Windows 10 x64. ■ RHB│RHB@LaLaLand_inc qjks8o$453$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qjl2aa$98d$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.18am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m196 Top; 13.4 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 21 { 8:31pm, 2019 }:23^(-4) XηСɓ Cortana is going berserk ? RHB wrote: > > the cursor went crazy. It flickered and the pointer stayed jumping around > > the Start button while the other thing like a I jumped around as I tried to > > settle on something. That happens to me when I leave "speech commands" on. If I leave my microphone on, for dictation and commands, and I answer my Bria soft-phone, all kinds of weird things happen, as if I was randomly pressing the keypad. I use "Nuance Dragon Professional"; but, in your case, it might be Cortana. ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 . MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com . BJT6F.4300$452.1286@fx02.iad . qjhp3f$jd6$32@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--9.35am.Seattle.2019 jerryab@juno_com utftle57s9khi5onsenccfb2knlk8eqjbu@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--10.01am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m2 Cool; 35 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 22 { 9:18am, 2019 }:22^(-5) XθhM A stealth recession began in 2016. Jerry replied ( to me ): > > Normally, today's level of deficit spending wouldn't occur > > unless the economy was really in the tank. > > > > Check out the CBO's chart of deficit spending since 1950, > > projected out to 2028: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG > > > > Apparently, a stealth recession began in 2016, > > when the Democrats were kicked out. > > So you are claiming Spankie caused this recession. It's as if there were a recession in 2016, when the Democrats were kicked out -- see the link above. Trump came in and jacked up deficit spending, the opposite of what a "fiscal conservative" might do. > Remember what [Trump?] claimed: > If he did NOT get elected, then Putin FAILED. Cut back on the weed, it's too potent, you're hallucinating. > So why are you claiming Spankie caused *another* recession? How come you can't read, space cadet ?! ■ MitchellRaemsch 478324b0-84fc-4149-8c5a-f3d420f69982@googlegroups.com MitchellRaemsch 36d53e91-d2e8-4929-b591-b07898474c74@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gs7h39FgetvU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.22--9.49am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m24 Top; 2.2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Aug 22 { 5:45am, 2019 }:29^(10) Xθ7κ Tell us more about your God... is he a good looking fellow ? Mitchell Raemsch, If you are interested in evolutionary science ( a huge "if" ), you should Google "MRSA" and "bed-bug resistance". If it wasn't evolution that's making them resistant to our poisons, then you'd have to blame your bearded God, right ? "God" is nature; nothing more, nothing less. Tell us more about your God... is he a good looking fellow ? ■ Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack acJ6F.25349$oq9.18017@fx47.iad Kensi qjfsi7$pbb$3@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot BJT6F.4300$452.1286@fx02.iad MsNadegda qjhp3f$jd6$32@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--9.35am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV +-, 18.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 20 { 2:35pm, 2019 }:43 Xζოქ A stealth recession began in 2016. Ms Nadegda replied ( to Rabid Robot ): > > [ heavy deficit spending now, in "good" times ] > > and even more of it when the economy slows down. > > That's called "countercyclical spending", > and you show your ignorance above > when you suggest that it is bad [ Yappity, Yap Yap ] Normally, today's level of deficit spending wouldn't occur unless the economy was really in the tank. Check out the CBO's chart of deficit spending since 1950, projected out to 2028: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG Apparently, a stealth recession began in 2016, when the Democrats were kicked out. ■ Kensi qjaftg$1e8j$1@gioia.aioe.org Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ndliled6v6b18uaf1tt7mv1gqvbr63bpid@4ax.com Kensi qjd650$10a2$1@gioia.aioe.org Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall bfjlletjsalabn332es2j035h02bq6m6b8@4ax.com Kensi qjft1k$pbb$6@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.21--9.12am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 3 m72 Cool; 1.5 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 19 { 9:30pm, 2019 }:42^(2) Xζʥg Background noise. Kensi wrote: > And if [ Greenland melting is ] that bad *already*, > 50 years ahead of schedule, how bad will it *actually* be in 2070 ? Geologically speaking, humanity isn't even on the radar. Our blip is so tiny, it's not even worth mentioning; barely background noise, if even that. ■ Aug 20, 2019 I wasted over 600 $ buying crappy monitor arms before discovering the wonderful Ergotech Freedom Arm, Heavy Duty, 30 lbs Max, ( Tilt: 45° Down, 90° Up ), 360° Pole, 27" Reach, with the 3 year warranty. I use my PC in bed, laying down; so I needed this arm because it: -- Hovers my 25 lb, 40" 4k curved monitor over me at a 45° downward tilt. -- Quickly flips to a 90° upward tilt, pointing my monitor at the ceiling, so it doesn't flash me at night, waking me up, nor get in my way as I toss and turn. -- Is strong enough to not slowly drift down. -- Swings 360° degrees on a pole, so I can (easily) mount it anywhere; otherwise, I'd lose reach. By the way, I reinforced my table with plywood, and added a counterweight. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com MrChrisV 7v0olelcfmochpocr6ibc3mf0k8ito89pq@4ax.com SteveCarroll qjh66t$r3v$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.37am.Seattle.2019 DFS eo%6F.43347$9Z1.5079@fx41.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--5.04pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 6 m47 Top; 6 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 20 { 4:30pm, 2019 }:16^(-4) XζჱG Visual C++ is nothing like JavaScript and VBA. DFS replied ( to me ): > > How am I not "tethered to reality" ? > > You shit and piss in a ladle and bucket, and store the bucket full of > shit in your living space. You fuck a rubber toy for 3 decades. You > have no car. You live partly off welfare. You don't take care of your > teeth. You make oddball claims about most everything. You write the > weirdest computer code anyone has ever seen. > > And you claim to be proud of all that. > You're a strange duck, Relf. But to each his own; > it would be a boring world without outliers like yourself. What "oddball claims" ? Yes, I am proud of everything you listed above. - If you were to rewrite Firefox, or Google Chrome, or Microsoft Edge, you would _ not _ modify the source code; instead, you'd rewrite it. Visual C++ is nothing like JavaScript and VBA. I modify VBA and JavaScript myself, all the time. - No one can smell the ( well sealed ) Vittles Vault; random people are in my room ALL THE FUCKING TIME, no complaints ( from them ). Maybe I should leave the lid open. It saves money, and time -- it's totally genius. - 115 reviews on the 77 $ White Tenga Flip Zero: http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC I can't believe they offer a vibrating version; no one likes it. It beats the hell out of the real thing, I assure you. I don't need anyone to love me, I'm way beyond that. - " more money, more problems ", they say. My income is low enough that I qualify for food stamps; so... why not ? - No car owns me. Seattle is my backyard. - My teeth look bad, sure, but I don't have to look at them. I look real, folksy, not fake. ■ maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ 16F6F.1283$Q63.627@fx25.iad MsNadegda qjfhuv$jd6$13@dont-email.me maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ ObI6F.16699$la1.2399@fx33.iad MsNadegda qjflgc$jd6$19@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.24am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qjhneh$jd6$28@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--2.36pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV ╱ 6 m207 Mad; 18.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 20 { 2: 7pm, 2019 }:29 Xζკə Capitalists deserve something, even if it is just money. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Only in your feeble, hallucinating mind does "kill the rich" work. > > Oh, I don't want to *kill* them. If they all died, > who would we tax the everloving fuck out of > to provide public services ? If you want less of something, tax+regulate it. Capitalists work hard babysitting dweebs like you; they deserve something, even if it is just money. They don't get extra food or health, they can't bed more woman; all they get is greater irritation, and a larger number in their checking account. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com MrChrisV 7v0olelcfmochpocr6ibc3mf0k8ito89pq@4ax.com SteveCarroll qjh66t$r3v$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.37am.Seattle.2019 maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ OqW6F.27777$9s4.845@fx38.iad SteveCarroll qjhf5h$dk1$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--0.09pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 8 m743 Mad; 10.5 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 20 { 11:46am, 2019 }: 9 XζсϷ Visual C++ is very different from JavaScript. Steve Carroll wrote: > I labor under a fallacy that, someday, Snit is going to start > being something other than a pathologically lying narcissist. Snit, ChrisV, Kensi and Nadegda are all suffer from the delusion that only they have the answer, one that no one else has ever thought of; reality is: there are no good choices, only bad-and-worse ones. They can't appreciate capitalism. Fact is, capitalists are selfless; they work hard for little reward. > The only thing I can think of with Relf is with > his idea that he can write code and it matters not > whether anyone can read or understand it, > to me, that's not a realistic expectation. Visual C++ is very different from JavaScript. With C, it's usually easier to entirely re-write an app, instead of modifying it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com MrChrisV 7v0olelcfmochpocr6ibc3mf0k8ito89pq@4ax.com SteveCarroll qjh66t$r3v$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.37am.Seattle.2019 maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ OqW6F.27777$9s4.845@fx38.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--11.56am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 7 m32 Shifty; 54.4 Minutes, 40tude, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 20 { 10:51am, 2019 }:42^(-4) Xζиχ "Virtual Signaling" is bullshit. "Mr. Maybe" replied ( to me ): > > How am I not tethered to reality ? > > You seem reasonable to me. > You have a different way of looking at things. > Nothing wrong with that. Thank you, that's the second "compliment" I got today. I see things from the poor man's view; I'm surrounded by poor people. It infuriates me when people do shit "for the poor" when, in fact, only they benefit -- "Virtual Signaling" is bullshit. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com MrChrisV 7v0olelcfmochpocr6ibc3mf0k8ito89pq@4ax.com SteveCarroll qjh66t$r3v$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.37am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qjh89m$73u$4@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--10.36am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 6 m739 Mad; 45.1 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 20 { 9:48am, 2019 }:54 XζЮs More specific ? Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > > How am I not "tethered to reality" ? > > you have 'different' ways of > 'thinking outside the box' ;) Could you be more specific ? ■ Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack acJ6F.25349$oq9.18017@fx47.iad Kensi qjfsi7$pbb$3@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c5a0e586b868d2924@news.altopia.com MrChrisV 7v0olelcfmochpocr6ibc3mf0k8ito89pq@4ax.com SteveCarroll qjh66t$r3v$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--9.37am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m734 Mad; 20.9 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 20 { 9:13am, 2019 }:17 XζШɅ How am I not tethered to reality ? Steve Carroll wrote: > [ Relf is ] more tethered to reality > than some that he's discussing things with. Faint praise indeed. How am I not tethered to reality ? ■ maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ 3ZF6F.14853$oq9.4044@fx47.iad MsNadegda qjfiir$jd6$14@dont-email.me maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ 9fI6F.146774$f36.105972@fx20.iad MsNadegda qjflnm$jd6$21@dont-email.me Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack acJ6F.25349$oq9.18017@fx47.iad Kensi qjfsi7$pbb$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV ╱ 3 m172 Mad; 8.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 19 { 9:22pm, 2019 }:29^(2) XζʣЛ "Everyone sacrifices themselves for me." -- Kensi Kensi wrote: > Land redistribution. Monopoly nationalization. Reparations. And more ... First of all, it's extremely arrogant to suppose that that, somehow, you ( of all people ) have the solution... as if there were some wonderful option out there that no one but _ You _ has ever thought of. Amazingly, your solution is: everyone sacrifices themselves for me. "Killing the rich" has not made Venezuela and Cuba richer; likewise, it didn't help Nazi Germany. You're clueless, you've no idea how crappy Jeff Bezos' job is, babysitting clueless jerks, such as yourself. And what's his reward ?! he doesn't get extra food, nor can he bed more women, and insane people, like you, would take his money and leave him dead. ■ TheSnitBot gs0ib5F1odvU3@mid.individual.net SteveCarroll qjf5ii$dum$2@dont-email.me maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ 16F6F.1283$Q63.627@fx25.iad MsNadegda qjfhuv$jd6$13@dont-email.me maybe│emailnotrealspammo@mail_ ObI6F.16699$la1.2399@fx33.iad MsNadegda qjflgc$jd6$19@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--6.24am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV ╱ 4 m216 Mad; 10.3 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 19 { 7:22pm, 2019 }: 5 Xζʏϳ Ms Nadegda has no clue what the (horrid) options are. You (Nadegda) don't have the first clue about the capitalism that you're trying to destroy. Only in your feeble, hallucinating mind does "kill the rich" work. Jeff Bezos doesn't get to eat two breakfastes, two lunches, two dinners, and bed two wives, just because he's "rich"; being responsible for a million "employees" (jerks) isn't fun. You have no clue what the (horrid) options are. ■ SteveCarroll qjbnu2$le$1@dont-email.me MsNadegda qjcoko$jd6$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--10.17pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qjetfh$jd6$8@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c50e7c329d8c02914@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qjg1j6$jd6$24@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.20--5.59am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV ╱ 7 m216 Mad; 6.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 19 { 10:48pm, 2019 }:23 XζΓN Killing the rich won't help the poor. Ms Nadegda replied ( to Checky ): > > We were born into a system created by generations before us... > > just like you were. Future generations will be bitching about > > how YOU fucked things up. > > Impossible. I won't fuck anything up. If your arrogance is anything to go by, I'd say that you've already " fucked things up ". The _ only _ reason you think the world would be better if we did what you ( and AOC ) said is because you're intentionally clueless -- you can't face harsh reality. Killing the rich won't help the poor. ■ . qj9n9m$tlq$9@dont-email.me . qjbnu2$le$1@dont-email.me . qjcoko$jd6$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--10.17pm.Seattle.2019 TheSnitBot grvrr5Fre09U1@mid.individual.net SteveCarroll qjegb4$2s8$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.19--9.15am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV ╱ 1 m12 Shifty; 19 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 19 { 8:47am, 2019 }:48 Xζbც Snit, Nadegda and Kensi live in a magical-mystical dream world. Snit, Nadegda and Kensi live in a magical-mystical dream world where everything would be perfect, if we just did what they said. Apparently, are there much better options, in this dream world, so we don't have to choose between really-really-bad and really-bad. They don't care about those who can't make it to the 15 $/hour wage rung on the ladder; such people are simply too poor-weak to care about. ■ MsNadegda qj9eiq$tlq$5@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37c1f0a0cca8b608f1@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qj9n9m$tlq$9@dont-email.me SteveCarroll qjbnu2$le$1@dont-email.me MsNadegda qjcoko$jd6$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.18--10.17pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Rec.Arts.TV ╱ 3 m223 Mad; 4.9 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 18 { 4:57pm, 2019 }:12 XεϟΡ I see the mess the higher minimum-wage has created. Ms Nadegda wrote: > Raise. The minimum. Wage. Right, because if you're already on the ladder, it doesn't matter how high the lowest rung is. You'd fuck those at the very bottom, obviously. As a rooming house manager, in Seattle, I see the mess the higher minimum-wage has created, -- you don't, nor does the press. ■ Loctek lacks rotation at the base, lacks range and can't tilt properly. I use my PC in bed, laying down; so I need an arm that easily moves my 25 lb, 40" monitor up and away, so I can get up. My 101 $ "Amazon Basics" arm is too weak ( 25 lbs max !? ), the monitor drifts down; so I need a replacement. Loctek never mentions how far it tilts down, and now I know why. Had I kept the packaging, and not cut the cables, I would return it. Initially, I couldn't make the monitor face 45° down ( 45° downward tilt ) so I could view it from below; the fix was to reinstall the tilt mechanism upside down. But, when I moved my monitor, it broke both my monitor's DisplayPort 2.0 port _ and _ the cable; to be fair, my Philips bdm4037uw monitor is poorly designed, like that. Fortunately, I've a 4K, 60 Hz HDMI 2.0 port+cable. To stop them from breaking again, I taped-on a roll of duct tape. Loctek should've made attaching-detaching the monitor easier, as they did with their older, cheaper arms -- but they didn't. So, now, I bought the 77 $ "Ergotech Freedom Arm, Heavy Duty" ( 30 lbs max ); it has an easy pole mount, providing height, a 45° downward tilt, and a 90° upward tilt ( facing the ceiling ), and, from the looks of it, it won't break my monitor's port. Also, it extends 27", instead of the 21" Loctek gives me now; due to the limited (90°) rotation at the base, I had to mount the Loctek in a more distant location . By the way, I reinforced my table with plywood, and added a counterweight. ■ SamWormley e6661cd5-520f-4850-83d9-9bae7ff1c883@googlegroups.com MrAA b68b407e-248b-4e4e-b734-feba6d9da78d@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.37pm.Seattle.2019 SamWormley 5b6b423c-f874-43f1-8925-b7c6f2fd0cff@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--5.27pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m583 Dropped; 28.5 Minutes, GoogleG, Aug 17 { 4:51pm, 2019 }: 5^(PDT) XδჴΚ Oceanic plants would consume the carbon dioxide blip toot sweet. Sam Wormley replied ( to me ): > > We've plenty of oxygen, generated by Oceanic plants; > > high carbon dioxide levels feeds these plants, giving us more oxygen. > > > > Net, rain forests don't increase the oxygen level. > > > > Sam's carbon dioxide chart makes me think that today's high levels > > are going to be a tiny blip... it might end as fast as it came. > > If you understand atmospheric CO2, > and where it's coming from, and how it gets reduced, > you will soon understand that it is there for centuries. No, our tiny carbon dioxide blip might vanish as quickly as it came; oceanic plants would consume this blip toot sweet. ■ SamWormley e6661cd5-520f-4850-83d9-9bae7ff1c883@googlegroups.com MrAA b68b407e-248b-4e4e-b734-feba6d9da78d@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.37pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m58 Top; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 17 { 2:28pm, 2019 }:13^(PDT) Xδნϻ Today's carbon dioxide level might end as fast as it came. MrAA replied ( to Sam ): > > https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/co2_800k.png > > Why is no one concerned about depletion of the free oxygen in the atmosphere. > That has always been of more concern to me. We've plenty of oxygen generated by plants in the ocean; high carbon dioxide levels feeds those plants, giving us more oxygen. Net, rain forests don't increase the oxygen level. Sam's carbon dioxide chart makes me think that today's high levels are going to be a tiny blip... it might end as fast as it came. ■ Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com c907lep3rk238ngl2bqgi8pab6pu7r1u2j@4ax.com Kensi qj00nj$1d9l$2@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.56am.Seattle.2019 MrAA 425c2100-9f7a-4203-929c-4c0d15c199a9@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--3.53pm.Seattle.2019 MrAA 03f6637a-16ff-4120-8a65-7a634dfaaef0@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m58 Top; 37 Secs, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 17 { 4: 3pm, 2019 }: 7^(PDT) XδწΜ The day may come when we'll all need a license to surf the Internet. MrAA replied ( to me ): > > Jeffrey Epstein didn't have the benefit of the Internet; > > he couldn't Google "painless suicide". > > They didn't let him have his iPhone with him in his cell ? > Fate worse than death ! Cruel and unusual ! The day may come when we'll all need a license to surf the Internet. If you don't pay that fine for bullying, your license will be revoked. Again, he was probably murdered ( hence the broken bones ). ■ Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall n9u5lepei72e026lm67b6o4ucfg0bfh4sk@4ax.com Kensi qivvc9$17lc$2@gioia.aioe.org Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com c907lep3rk238ngl2bqgi8pab6pu7r1u2j@4ax.com Kensi qj00nj$1d9l$2@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.56am.Seattle.2019 MrAA 425c2100-9f7a-4203-929c-4c0d15c199a9@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--3.53pm.Seattle.2019 Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--4.02pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 5 m57 Top; 1.5 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 17 { 2:17pm, 2019 }:40^(PDT) Xδლტ Jeffrey Epstein may have been murdered. MrAA replied ( to me ): > > Light pressure ( 20 lbs ) on the carotid artery > > ( using a lubricated slip knot ) is a painless way to die; > > in seconds, you've passed out (forever). > > > > Plenty of celebrities have done it, sitting at their desk. > > Yes, so simple, so easy! > So do you really believe Jeffrey Epstein had to break > a couple of bones in his neck to get this accomplished ? Oops, The Washington Post says it's suspicious. He may have been murdered. ■ SamWormley df91930f-bc9a-4ca8-822a-3a8410bb9c58@googlegroups.com SamWormley 31fd075b-a63d-4d64-885e-df523232beec@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qj763v$166e$4@gioia.aioe.org SamWormley 05b90653-fc93-4c79-a071-92715c49a8a3@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qj7s0k$2ko$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--7.36am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m306 Mad; 10.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Aug 16 { 8:23pm, 2019 }:57^(-5) Xδʙჳ Make Air Great Again. Sam Wormley referenced: > > > > > experts-say-we-have-until-2020-to-get-climate-change > > > > > -under-control-and-theyre-the-optimists/ Make Air Great Again. M.A.G.A. ■ Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot m1y5F.307$kQ5.58@fx30.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.13am.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot _WB5F.1957$7O3.1371@fx10.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--10.53am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 3 m4 Shifty; 5.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 16 { 10:43am, 2019 }:25^(-4) Xδvɕ I welcome your absence. Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ): > > Newsgroups are people, not topics. > > You shouldn't be on USENET if you don't > > understand how to filter out unwanted people. > > I imagine that everyone's already filtered you. I see my posts, and that's what matters most. If you're not a people person, and you're obsessively, compulsively pedantic, then I welcome your absence. ■ Jason│nobody@nowhere_com MPG.37bd29ee5b5294a19896ff@news.eternal-september.org Jason│nobody@nowhere_com MPG.37bd2b5e2c341df0989700@news.eternal-september.org Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 44t6lepn3bn0qrr3eh6hm8ndvtp27isjm5@4ax.com Jason│jason_warren@ieee_DELETE_ MPG.37bd4452a73f75fd98976d@reader443.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--9.56am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m8 Cool; 2.6 Days, MicroPlanet, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 13 { 8: 4pm, 2019 }:41^(-4) XβʖЧ Windows no longer requires one to eject USB drives. > Where's "Safely remove"? Windows no longer requires one to eject USB drives. If you like that "feature", you can turn it on again. Google it. ■ Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot m1y5F.307$kQ5.58@fx30.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.13am.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj6m2b$2rq$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--9.44am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m199 Top; 3.4 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 16 { 9:36am, 2019 }:28^(-4) XδkS This newsgroup is entirely unmoderated. Paul replied ( to me ): > > Newsgroups are people, not topics. > > You shouldn't be on USENET if you don't > > understand how to filter out unwanted people. > > This isn't a dumping ground Relf. This newsgroup is entirely unmoderated. Wikipedia is completely different. My website is completely different. The New York Times is totally different. Twitter is different. etc. etc. ■ Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ grgurpFkqgqU1@mid.individual.net Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj038m$3hv$1@dont-email.me Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019 Rabid_Robot│rabid@rob_ot m1y5F.307$kQ5.58@fx30.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--8.13am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m2 Shifty; 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 16 { 6:17am, 2019 }: 8^(-4) XδCт Newsgroups are people, not topics. Rabid_Robot replied ( to me ): > > What if they didn't have guns ? > > wouldn't they find another way ? > > Completely off-topic. alt.home.repair? Seriously? Newsgroups are people, not topics. You shouldn't be on USENET if you don't understand how to filter out unwanted people. ■ Kensi qitbq1$1llc$1@gioia.aioe.org Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall n9u5lepei72e026lm67b6o4ucfg0bfh4sk@4ax.com Kensi qivvc9$17lc$2@gioia.aioe.org Mattb│trdell12345@gmail_com c907lep3rk238ngl2bqgi8pab6pu7r1u2j@4ax.com Kensi qj00nj$1d9l$2@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.56am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, lookAlt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m69 Cool; 2.4 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 13 { 8:55pm, 2019 }:32^(2) Xβʟɜ Light pressure ( 20 lbs ) on the carotid artery. Kensi suggests: > Just get a rope and find a high spot. Light pressure ( 20 lbs ) on the carotid artery ( using a lubricated slip knot ) is a painless way to die; in seconds, you've passed out (forever). Plenty of celebrities have done it, sitting at their desk. I'm surprised governments don't use this method. ■ Kensi qivv7b$17lc$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.30am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 7 m69 Cool; 2.5 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 13 { 8:29pm, 2019 }:48^(2) Xβʚც Problem solved. Kensi mentioned: > boisterous wintertime carnivals Move farther north, problem solved. ■ Kensi qitbq1$1llc$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.28am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 8 m69 Cool; 3.4 Days, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 12 { 8:46pm, 2019 }:10^(2) XαУϸ Farm corals. Kensi mentioned: > the rapid death of corals Then farm the corals, instead of destroying them. ■ SteveCarroll qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me TheSnitBot grlb6hFj4fqU1@mid.individual.net MsNadegda qj4p5q$tlq$2@dont-email.me Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack qGm5F.8575$tG2.214@fx48.iad SteveCarroll qj4umh$p8m$1@dont-email.me Kensi qj5csa$11bi$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.18am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m189 Mad; 8.3 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Aug 15 { 9:53pm, 2019 }:30^(2) XγЮი Thailand, India and Vietnam. Given a low enough minimum-wage, any old moron, and/or housewife looking for a little extra income, could sell decent products, at a decent price, benefiting everyone, as we see in places like Thailand, India and Vietnam. When the minimum wage is too high, these people suffer; I see them, face-to-face, I have to deal with them, directly; it's not a pretty sight. And the news media doesn't cover it; it doesn't show up in our GDP statistics. ■ SteveCarroll qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--8.15am.Seattle.2019 TheSnitBot grlbj4Fj61lU3@mid.individual.net Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com Lbg5F.713$AR4.134@fx39.iad MsNadegda qj4q7o$tlq$3@dont-email.me MrChrisV h77dlehc79blmasj4p18r9dlmlpe7ekjdv@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16--7.03am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m178 Dropped; 59.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Aug 16 { 5:14am, 2019 }:34^(-5) Xδ2ʚ I'd rather that you were racist. ChrisV wrote: > the rich subjugate and abuse the poor. Snit, Ms Nadegda and Mrs Kensi agree with you, 100%. You're demonstrating blind prejudice, nasty ignorance. I'd rather that you were racist, it'd be less destructive. In Nazi Germany, Jews were the toast of the world, the very people who you ( and Hitler ) hate the most. Unfortunately, your IQ isn't high enough to understand this. In Venezuela/Cuba, " Eat the rich " is a national policy; and you'd do it too, if you could, while pretending to be doing something else. Again: If you house the homeless, and give them drugs, you're a Communist enabler who'd slaughter "the rich". If you jail them, you're a heartless Nazi. Either way, you're "evil". Why ? Because there is no decent alternative; if there were, we would've done it already. ■ lonelydad│lonelydad58@gmail_ XnsAAABBB87FCD63lonelydad58gmailcom@69.16.179.29 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ dovf2g-k1t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--5.45pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 3 m76 Cool; 12.1 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Aug 15 { 5:28am, 2019 }:29^(2) XγɼЛ I took my USB stick to a printshop. Carlos wrote: > Do not store things that are important on an USB stick, Short-Term storage is what I care about, and that's where USB sticks Excel. Just today, and many times recently, USB backups ( RoboCopy mirroring ) have saved my neck. When my motherboard died, I took my USB stick to a printshop, so I could print vital information. Without it, I would've been in deep, deep doo-doo. I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive. .4/.31 Read/Write GigaBytes/Sec on my half TeraByte USB 3.1 stick. CrystalDiskMark, default settings. My new SSD and USB stick are both clones of my older SSD; so I can boot off any one of them, should things go wrong, knowing that it'll work ( like a "restore point" ). Front panel USBs: 2.0, 2.0, 3.0 Back: 2.0, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.1 Gen2, 3.1 Gen2 TypeC. ■ Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle qiv9nr$dhu$1@gioia.aioe.org Ralph_Mowery│rmowery28146 MPG.37bd0a19ec2d75c3989add@news.east.earthlink.net Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ grgurpFkqgqU1@mid.individual.net Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj038m$3hv$1@dont-email.me Keith_Nuttle│Keith_Nuttle qj0uj7$1gls$1@gioia.aioe.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qj13d6$5kd$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--3.03pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns, Alt.Home.Repair ╱ 9 m200 Top; 1.3 Days, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 14 { 6:47am, 2019 }:16^(-4) XβϿъ What if they didn't have guns ? Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? ■ Philip_Herlihy│ MPG.37b61d6291298ec6989841@news.eternal-september.org FMurtz│haggisz@hotmail_com SBU2F.160837$Yu7.20687@fx41.iad Philip_Herlihy│ MPG.37b626dee9930cbb989843@news.eternal-september.org FMurtz│haggisz@hotmail_com KDd4F.168986$dY4.111908@fx35.iad Philip_Herlihy│ MPG.37bd074a9508213f989844@news.eternal-september.org Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qiv0vb$1r1$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--2.34pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 12 m200 Top; 2.1 Days, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 13 { 11:53am, 2019 }:30^(-4) XβȺი I don't see any reason to put a Windows ISO on anything. Paul mentioned: > copying a Windows ISO to a USB key I don't see any reason to put a Windows ISO on anything. My half terabyte USB 3.1 stick, and my terabyte NVMe drive are both clones of my older (terabyte) Sata III SSD. So I can use any of those 3 devices to boot my PC directly into a very familiar Win10 1903 environment, including my apps, data and all. So, if I screw one up so bad that " shutdown /r /o " won't let me do a clean install, I can always go back to one of my older boot devices, knowing it'll work. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gtc9letsl64mhb5qsn7jsvbapkqeh7oec1@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.47pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ib0ble5n2c1fj758u3sen8jnpigv16m2mt@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--11.33am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall rj9blelosr9nqtq30hitivhp5ugrrjtqqg@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m87 Dropped; 4.8 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 15 { 11:41am, 2019 }:22^(-4) XγΛა I work with fine details. Greg told me: > You have complained in the past of eye fatigue; > so I'm just trying to clue you in on what's causing it The solution is to take a nap, which I often do. Not having a computer for several days helped a lot. > Your display is too large and your eye muscles > work too hard moving them back and forth and up and down > trying to take in a ridiculously large computer display. No, it's more about how long I spend on the computer, not the size of the screen. > Have you ever seen somebody watching a 42'' television > display while sitting two feet from it. 370 columns of console text is different than video. I'm unique, most people aren't Visual C++ programmers. > With a display that large, a normal vision person sits > at least five or six feet back so he can comfortably take in > the whole screen without having to move his eyes back and > forth/up and down. I'm extremely nearsighted; at that distance, I can't see much; close up, I see more than the average person. My eyes have to move a lot, because I work with fine details. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gtc9letsl64mhb5qsn7jsvbapkqeh7oec1@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.47pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ib0ble5n2c1fj758u3sen8jnpigv16m2mt@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--11.33am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m86 Dropped; 55 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 15 { 9: 4am, 2019 }:27^(-4) XγʠЙ I work with 370 columns of "console" text. Greg told me: > Your aging eyes cannot take it all in at once so you > have to move then up and down, side to side or you only > see one little spot where you happen to be looking. My eyes move fine, no problems; my monitor too. I know what works, and what doesn't. Text is very different from video. My monitor automatically dims-down when showing text ( on a mostly-black screen ) and brightens up for videos. When viewing videos, a 4k 40" curved monitor is very immersive. When editing text, I never feel constrained+claustrophobic. Occasionally, I work with 370 columns of "console" text; to wit: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG ■ MsNadegda qj1v71$4q4$8@dont-email.me MrChrisV 8jnalelekpci7igsoo69s9jf1c80j4btj7@4ax.com SteveCarroll qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--8.15am.Seattle.2019 TheSnitBot grlbj4Fj61lU3@mid.individual.net Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com Lbg5F.713$AR4.134@fx39.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--10.31am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m126 Dropped; 6 Secs, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Aug 15 { 9:59am, 2019 }:22^(-6) Xγʩა Racism would be better, less destructive. Some rando wrote: > if an employer is going to pay an employee $15/hour, > that employee needs to create $45/hour in productivity, > or the employer loses money on the deal. Snit won't admit it, but it's obvious to everyone but himself that he'd forcibly rob " the rich " and then ask " Where did they go ? ". The fact that he's not rich himself makes it even worse, as he's demonstrating blind prejudice, nasty ignorance. Racism would be better, less destructive. ■ TheSnitBot grgfbtFhj7oU1@mid.individual.net SteveCarroll qiv21m$i43$4@dont-email.me MrChrisV gv38lep1t3fkl4adbmql8eb4llgors815h@4ax.com MsNadegda qj1v71$4q4$8@dont-email.me MrChrisV 8jnalelekpci7igsoo69s9jf1c80j4btj7@4ax.com SteveCarroll qj3s1a$2ha$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--8.15am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m707 Mad; 2.9 Minutes, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 15 { 7:59am, 2019 }:55 Xγʕჱ I'm face-to-face with homeless people and minimum-wage workers. In Seattle, I'm face-to-face with homeless people and minimum-wage workers, all day, every fucking day; so, take it from me, not Ms Nadegda, when I say that Seattle's minimum-wage workers are _ NOT _ doing well. They're underemployed and unemployed at a level that no one is talking about; you don't see it in the nation's economic statistics. Again: If you house the homeless, and give them drugs, you're a Communist enabler who kills "the rich". If you jail them, you're a heartless Nazi. Either way, you're "evil". Why ? Because there is no decent alternative; if there were, we would've done it already. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.48am.Seattle.2019 TheSnitBot grio97F1vvkU2@mid.individual.net Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack DnY4F.3$dp3.0@fx05.iad TheSnitBot grj32uF4b8fU1@mid.individual.net Praetor_Mandrake│kraghack Ova5F.398$R23.221@fx22.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.15--6.08am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m20 Dropped; 2 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM, Aug 15 { 3:31am, 2019 }:10^(-5) Xγɩȼ Both the murderer and the executioner are innocent. Praetor replied ( to Snit ): > > Jobs training, transportation, clothing, ... whatever is needed > > to help them get back on their feet. Or, if they truly cannot > > hold a job, then still help them -- it makes no sense to not do so. > > And politeness training. > So many people are thrown out of their homes for misbehaving. Who are you going to rob ( at gunpoint ) in order to fund these wonderful programs ?! "the rich" ? And, once you've stolen the money, and "the rich" have fled, how do we know that you'll actually spend it righteously ?! Also, what are you going to do when all you have left are the sick+poor, because you've alienated "the rich" ?! Again, you've missed my point: If you house the homeless, and give them drugs, you're a Communist enabler. If you jail them, you're a heartless Nazi; either way, you're "evil". Why ? Because there is no decent alternative; if there were, we would've done it already. Suppose a guy had only 2 "choices": - Death by fire. - Death by falling. One could "honestly" say, " He chose to fall. "; yet, when one has no good alternatives, the so-called "choice" doesn't actually make one evil. Both the murderer and the executioner are innocent; if the truth could be told ( a big "if" ), you'd realize that neither one had a choice. ■ . qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me . ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 . cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019 Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qj2eli$6h3$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--7.11pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 6 m274 Mad; 3.8 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Aug 14 { 7: 5pm, 2019 }:48^(-5) XγKც There's no room in my dumpster. Sergio wrote: > buy a Raspberry Pi 3B + for $50, and run linux, works great! I would, but there's no room in my dumpster. ■ . qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me . ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 . cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ u8e9lelid0iikp4bdh9idftemar2u9ol8d@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--7.04pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m15 Dropped; 6.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds, Aug 14 { 6:46pm, 2019 }: 8^(-5) XγH϶ Google, "porn is free" ( with the quote marks ). > > Last year, I spent 3'000 $, total, no PC costs. > > No new porn ? Google, "porn is free" ( with the quote marks ). > Do you like black dudes with big dicks doing white girls ? > It seems you do. " Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vaginal.Orgasm.mp4 " is educational; it shows you what a vaginal organism looks like. Tiny dicks are fine, see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Cervix.In.The.Vagina.JPG ■ SteveCarroll qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall gtc9letsl64mhb5qsn7jsvbapkqeh7oec1@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.47pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m92 Dropped; 5.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Aug 14 { 6:26pm, 2019 }:43^(-4) XγEʣ You don't know what I'm talking about, right ? Greg replied ( to me ): > > I buy a new thousand $ monitor once every 3 years or so; > > so that's about 300$/YEAR. > > What a moron! Have you never heard of perspective? > > So you spend a thousand bucks on a huge monitor that you > have to move away from several feet in order to take > it all in or else it's eye-strain city. My 4k, 40" curved monitor is always 2 feet away from me, -- no more, no less -- because that's where my aging eyes focus. I just bought a new monitor arm. When not using the monitor, I swing it up and away from me. > In effect, you wasted your money because you could have bought > a top of the line laptop with included display where > you sit about a foot away from it and get the same effect That's not immersive; a 4k, 40" curved monitor is immersive. I never buy prebuilt PCs, they never have what I want; also, they come with crap I don't want. I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive. .4/.31 Read/Write GigaBytes/Sec on my half TeraByte USB 3.1 stick. CrystalDiskMark, default settings. My new SSD and USB stick are both clones of my older SSD. Front panel USBs: 2.0, 2.0, 3.0 Back: 2.0, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.1 Gen2, 3.1 Gen2 TypeC ( 20 volt, 100 watt {hot}, 8k 60Hz +audio ). You don't know what I'm talking about, right ? ■ HughHuntzinger 2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll cebe061e-e7ab-4066-a2fb-4a00e7fcc5c4@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.18pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m700 Mad; 3.2 Hours, GoogleG, Aug 14 { 1:21pm, 2019 }:33^(PDT) Xβბξ I buy a new thousand $ monitor once every 3 years or so. Steve asked me: > how'd you manage to drum up $3-4k for a new computer? If you add everything up, all the upgrades/replacements, it's actually thousands of $ more than that; still, it's 100% worth it. I buy a new thousand $ monitor once every 3 years or so; so that's about 300$/YEAR. I probably replace most of the PC every 5 years; but I expect that cost to go down. My (fantastic) 9-year-old printer is still going strong. Last year, I spent 3'000 $, total, no PC costs. Usually, I earn 6 K $/year, and pay about 440 $/year in self-employment taxes, after my "earned income credit". I have no car, take no buses|trains|planes|Uber|etc. My rent is "free" but I spend 200+$/month on the house. My food is free, thanks to SNAP ( food stamps ), I never eat out ( I PREFER my cooking over restaurants ). My Internet is free. My phone ( including text messages ) is 33 $/YEAR. My hand-rolled cigarettes cost me about 30 $/month. Last 30+ years, I spent nothing on healthcare. I never date, last time I had (real) sex was 1991. I pay no insurance of any kind. ■ flatfish+++│flatfish@musician_ qivokb$euu$17@dont-email.me SteveCarroll qivp9t$49r$11@dont-email.me DFS j1W4F.150805$7s1.28292@fx44.iad SteveCarroll qj1c82$kuj$4@dont-email.me DFS hZW4F.254868$i84.119298@fx34.iad SteveCarroll qj1fbk$2vs$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.36pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m698 Mad; 1.5 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 14 { 10:11am, 2019 }:16 Xβбъ Growing up. Steve replied ( to DFS ): > > > " You can check out any time you like, > > > but you can never leave. " > > > > Good lyric. Henley had a college degree in English. > > Also the last lyric before that famed "dual solo"! > > I can't recall what it is... " Eagles - Hotel California Live ": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw3CzmBw8hM It's about growing up. ■ MrChrisV iio5le5tla0u1cbe3acndporpkm6fi1ru6@4ax.com MrChrisV hlp5lelsigamhqqe1nqohnrcidjkd2a4kb@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qj1bq4$kuj$1@dont-email.me HughHuntzinger ef639ce5-92b4-4cb0-8fc6-0ef36fc8386e@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.22pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m30 Top; 13.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Aug 14 { 11:29am, 2019 }:40^(PDT) Xβоტ Every dollar in your bank account represents 2+ $ of earnings. Hugh Huntzinger replied ( to Steve and me ): > > > A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned. > > > > I'd amend that to: 'A dollar properly invested...". > > A fair point too, although the dollar has to first be saved, Every dollar in your bank account represents 2+ $ of earnings. ■ BranimirMaksimovic TuV4F.141316$TW.129207@fx03.am4 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.55am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall tod8let1l2a7bb063mm55tvou92utnbv9b@4ax.com MrChrisV vaf8le58941j4122b4fo4g5bi0ab8hc4j3@4ax.com Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall pgh8le54i1jol54dbcmri38v3mo21g9elr@4ax.com Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37bde83db43607268cb@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--0.11pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m316 Mad; 59.5 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Aug 14 { 10:44am, 2019 }: 4^(-7) Xβзɼ He chose to drown to death. Checkmate wrote: > I've been safely taking oxys for probably nine years now Continually ? Why ? > why should [ thieving junkies ] become MY problem ? " Am I my brother's keeper ? " -- Cain, Abel's brother. Yet again, we've returned to the original post: If you house the homeless, you're a Communist. If you jail them, you're a Nazi; either way, you're "evil". Why ? Because there are no good alternatives. Is this really so hard to understand ? Suppose a guy had only 2 "choices": - Death by strangulation. - Death by drowning. One could "honestly" say, " He chose to drown to death. "; yet, when one has no good alternatives, the so-called "choice" doesn't actually make one evil. Both the murderer and the executioner are innocent; if the truth could be told ( a big "if" ), you'd realize that neither had a choice. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.48am.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qj163j$jtp$1@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.00am.Seattle.2019 BranimirMaksimovic TuV4F.141316$TW.129207@fx03.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.55am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╳ 1 m1 Shifty; 41.4 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Aug 14 { 8: 9am, 2019 }:39 XβНτ Why not _ attempt _ to understand what I'm saying ?! Branimir Maksimovic replied ( to me ): > > Clean needles save lives, they call it "harm reduction". > > Again, there are no good alternatives. > > Same old farting, brain fart... You can't read English, I assume. Still... Why not _ attempt _ to understand what I'm saying ?! ■ MrChrisV 1cj5le9v3h9m4tlup3idom2lifmk2nemt6@4ax.com MrChrisV iio5le5tla0u1cbe3acndporpkm6fi1ru6@4ax.com MrChrisV hlp5lelsigamhqqe1nqohnrcidjkd2a4kb@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019 DFS eOV4F.277918$GS1.269842@fx48.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.47am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m28 Top; 3.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win8.1, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Aug 14 { 8:31am, 2019 }: 6^(-4) XβСȸ Ronnie was right, money trickles down. DFS replied ( to me ): > > In Seattle, a car is a liability. > > Same goes for a house|condo; > > better to rent a tiny room in shared housing. > > That's a small step up from living in jail. No thanks. Owning a house|car is more jail-like than renting a room in Seattle. You don't own it, it owns you. > > A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned. > > In most advanced societies, it's easier to earn a dollar > than it is to save one. Your wealth is a ball-n-chain, it holds you down. Money flows from the richer to the poorer; that's just osmosis. America becomes more like Calcutta, and vice versa. Ronnie was right, money trickles down. ■ HughHuntzinger 9556fd58-cbd7-4b20-a11e-a44ce0759a89@googlegroups.com MrChrisV qth5le13md8q4bd4as1ntdbnc6j39hudm0@4ax.com MrChrisV 1cj5le9v3h9m4tlup3idom2lifmk2nemt6@4ax.com MrChrisV iio5le5tla0u1cbe3acndporpkm6fi1ru6@4ax.com MrChrisV hlp5lelsigamhqqe1nqohnrcidjkd2a4kb@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 2d22bb07-decc-432c-b5de-fb80ea43bb7c@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.25am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 5 m26 Top; 21.4 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Aug 13 { 10:36am, 2019 }:55^(PDT) Xβut A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned. Hugh Huntzinger wrote: > [ chrisv implied ] that he found a car that was "better", but > no such car has actually been named, so that claim is vacuous In Seattle, a car is a liability. Same goes for a house|condo; better to rent a tiny room in shared housing. A dollar saved is worth much more than a dollar earned. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.48am.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qj163j$jtp$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--8.00am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 8 m255 Mad; 19.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Aug 14 { 7:33am, 2019 }:16^(-4) XβЗΦ There are no good alternatives. Ben Jacoby replied ( to me ): > > If you house the homeless, you're a Communist. > > If you jail them, you're a Nazi; either way, you're "evil". > > Why ? Because there are no good alternatives. > > Sanctuary Shitholes like San Fransisco have the answer: > free drugs, free needles and lots of fentanyl. > Problem solves itself. Clean needles save lives, they call it "harm reduction". Again, there are no good alternatives. ■ The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ g7vuke5l9bv28m157ghieaukhf737pd1bt@4ax.com ScottDoty gr9ljaF2h5rU1@mid.individual.net HughHuntzinger 70de0f50-35d2-435c-a85a-a502cd475cb2@googlegroups.com ScottDoty grbliuFdkc0U8@mid.individual.net HughHuntzinger eceaa8d7-d458-4a59-9bf6-a35b1ab8a416@googlegroups.com ScottDoty greoldF5tc3U2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--7.45am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m63 Top; 1.4 Days, Pan, Individual.NET, Aug 12 { 8:21pm, 2019 }:17 XαПΧ I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive. Scott Doty wrote: > # ethtool enp2s0 | grep Speed > Speed: 10000Mb/s > [ that's my battlestation ] I'm getting 3.5 GigaBytes/Sec Read|Write on my TeraByte NVMe drive. ..4/.31 GigaBytes/Sec Read/Write on my half TeraByte USB 3.1 stick. CrystalDiskMark, default settings. It really does make a difference; my 4.25 GigaHz i7-8700 (gaming mode) system feels extremely fast. Task Manager says my ddr4 RAM is running at 3 GigaHz (gaming mode). All the same, I wouldn't have upgraded if by old motherboard hadn't died. Now I have a loose i7-5775c and a terabyte SATA III SSD that I don't know what to do with. My new SSD and USB stick are both clones of my older SSD. Everything exclusive to me, including most of my apps, are under: "C:\__"; when things are in a good state, I mirror them to the USB drive thusly: ShadowSpawn C:\__ R: RoboCopy R: A:\__ /B /XF __.TXT /XD Tmp Del /NDL /mir /J /NJH /NJS /NP /UNILOG:C:\__\X\__.TXT Despite spanning 130 gigs and 180,000 files, it's super quick. Without ShadowSpawn, many files couldn't be backed up ( because, on a live/running system, they're locked ). ■ pittsburghjoe│pittsburghjoe 0a559574-0f15-46ee-a8fa-727b8838b07f@googlegroups.com EdProchak 1105935a-d26b-42f0-9cda-b9bfd3b54522@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.58am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m18 Top; 11.8 Hours, GoogleG, 75.90.39.122, Aug 13 { 7: 1pm, 2019 }:25^(PDT) Xβʌɕ At the quantum level, you can't observe something without disturbing it. > > Double slit interpretation: At the quantum level, you can't observe something without disturbing it. P.S. "dark energy" is just entropy. "dark matter" is vacuum energy. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.14--6.48am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate There are no good alternatives. If you house the homeless, you're a Communist. If you jail them, you're a Nazi; either way, you're "evil". Why ? Because there are no good alternatives. ■ . CNpXE.46156$Yu7.21648@fx41.iad JohnSefton 89fcca0d-6450-4f66-a5da-8479b03c7301@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gpa6ujFbjnmU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.01am.Seattle.2019 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gparvsFfrokU1@mid.individual.net whodat│whodat@avoid_void_net qiutvf$fom$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--2.08pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m70 Dropped; 2.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 13 { 11: 2am, 2019 }:23^(-5) Xβyʏ "ObamaCare" keeps people out of hospitals and living longer. Some rando replied ( to Sylvia ): > > > > [ due to the extent of MRSA ] the only surgery > > > > people will risk having is life-saving. > > > > Forget hip replacements, etc. > > I knew a man in England who waited 5 years for a hip replacement. > While recovering from surgery, he got an infection by > antibiotic-resistant microbes; it took him three days to die. See ?! "ObamaCare" keeps people out of hospitals and living longer. ■ SamWormley 40cebae1-7fea-44ec-8c4a-57d6466e3a2c@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ grepd5F694kU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--9.49am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m18 Top; 6.9 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Aug 12 { 8:33pm, 2019 }:55^(10) XαСϛ "Lesser" species/people. Sylvia wrote: > I wonder how many people will actually charge their vehicles > [ via a renewable source ]. We're slowly burning this planet up, same as the sun, because that's what nature programmed us to do (sustainably). We measure our progress in terms of GDP, and we take pride in our ability to consume more than other, "lesser" species/people. ■ nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100820190931168933%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--10.08am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100820191335197631%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--3.45am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 110820190813358387%nospam@nospam.invalid Eric_Stevens│eric_stevens@sum_ 0ba1leh7ovec11tplnt51001lcdeq4qkm3@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.12--0.41am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate +-, 7.4 Hours, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Easynews.COM, Aug 11 { 4:53pm, 2019 }:54^(12) XΩჴჰ Hands-free, not holding a tablet-keyboard. Eric Stevens replied: > > > A tablet is better than nothing, > > > assuming "nothing" is your _ only _ alternative. > > > > > > Other than that, I've no use for it. > > > If you're a fashion model, or a rock star, the story is different. > > Nowadays, you go into a hospital and every staff member is carrying > a cellphone or a tablet, all connected to the hospital network. Meanwhile, I'm laying in bed, all relaxed-like, with my 4k 40" curved monitor swung over me ( via an arm ); -- hands-free, not holding a tablet-keyboard. Instead, I use mouse+speech; see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 . qikj4v$54m$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--6.22am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100820190931168933%nospam@nospam.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--10.08am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100820191335197631%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--3.45am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m3 Shifty; 16 Hours, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 10 { 10:35am, 2019 }:19^(-4) XΩtэ No need to hold a fucking tablet. Some rando replied ( to me ): > > Tablets are for when, sadly, you can't have a PC. > > Nope. for many tasks, a tablet is the the best, > and sometimes only, choice. Choose the best tool for the job. A tablet is better than nothing, assuming "nothing" is your _ only _ alternative. Other than that, I've no use for it. I'm laying in bed, right now, with my 4k 40" curved monitor swung over me ( via an arm ); it's very relaxing -- no need to hold a fucking tablet. Most of the time, my screen is mostly black ( light text on a black background, " http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Visual.Studio.2019.PNG " ), and the monitor automatically dims down; when watching a video, the monitor brightens up again. > > Fewer apps and fewer peripherals would be okay, > > provided you're not into computers. > > nonsense. If you're a fashion model, or a rock star, the story is different. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty gr8m8rFqtmkU2@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--4.22pm.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ g7vuke5l9bv28m157ghieaukhf737pd1bt@4ax.com ScottDoty gr9ljaF2h5rU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.11--0.17am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m11 Top; 1.4 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Aug 10 { 9:58pm, 2019 }:19 XΩʩБ What are you backing up ? > 28'918'626'860 > Mostly backups. 29 gigabytes for backups ? What are you backing up ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 ScottDoty gr8m8rFqtmkU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--4.22pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m9 Top; 2.9 Hours, Pan, Individual.NET, Aug 10 { 1: 3pm, 2019 }:39 XΩɐτ Are you storing terabytes of videos ? Scott Doty replied ( to me ): > bought a new Cooler Master HAF Lan case Why ? are you storing terabytes of videos ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Big_Al│Big_Al@invalid_com qikj4v$54m$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--6.22am.Seattle.2019 nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 100820190931168933%nospam@nospam.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--10.08am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 22 m68 Cool; 1.7 Hours, Thoth➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 10 { 6:31am, 2019 }:16^(-4) XΩFɄ You're not into computers. Some rando replied ( to me ): > > Without peripherals, a PC is just an overpriced tablet. > > This is the problem with Apple: scant peripherals. > > nonsense. > Tablets and pcs are designed for very different use cases. Tablets are for when, sadly, you can't have a PC. > There's no shortage of peripherals for Apple. Depends on how you define the word "shortage". Fewer apps and fewer peripherals would be okay, provided you're not into computers. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Big_Al│Big_Al@invalid_com qikj4v$54m$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--6.22am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 4 m16 Cool; 16.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 9 { :56pm, 2019 }:14^(-4) XΨΩʆ Scant peripherals. Big_Al replied ( to me ): > > 3'022 $ Total, before Seattle's 10% tax. > > You forgot something in your price list. I got $2,862. No, 3'022 $ is right, Google: 130+34+80+80+296+34+178+80+150+64+142+114+978+350+160+152 Also, I just dropped another 482 $, after Seattle's 10% tax, for: 130 $, 512 gig, USB 3.1 "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX" Drive. 228 $, 1 TeraByte, "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec. 80 $, Corsair CX Series 650 Watt power supply. I think my 7-year-old power supply was failing (initially). Looking at Windows' event viewer, I noticed that power supply failures were dropping cores/threads ! > But a lot of that is not the PC. > A Wi-Fi Router? Fire Tablet? Printer? Without peripherals, a PC is just an overpriced tablet. This is the problem with Apple: scant peripherals. I couldn't have done it (upgraded) without the Fire Tablet; it's really nice, in an emergency -- much better than nothing. My 8-year-old printer is _ vital _ to my business; it's a real workhorse; ultra-cheap and long-lasting. > But I will say it sounds like a nice rig. Should scream. > I never have had a PC over 3.2 GigaHz. Were it not for "gaming mode", mine would also be 3.2 GigaHz. Hence the "copper, water-in-a-vacuum HeatPipes" CPU Fan. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 philo│philo@privacy_net qikhkd$rgl$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.10--5.38am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 16 m17 Cool; 13.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 9 { :30pm, 2019 }:21^(-5) XΨΥL PCIe "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec. Philo replied ( to me ): > > Since my PC died, it's taken me 7 (sleepless) days to recover. > > I had to do a clean install ( shutdown /r /o ) of Win10 v1903; > > I would just have placed the HD in a new machine. That's what I did, hence the clean install. The boot–SSD is 4 years old. The fanless power supply is 7 years old. The laser printer+scanner is over 8 years old. The 34 $ g600 mouse lasted nearly 3 years; I should've replaced it sooner, but it was "good enough". I wear out mice like nobody's business. The motherboard died after 5 years. P.S. I just bought a 130 $, 512 gig, USB 3.1 "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX" Drive; USB 2.0 compatible. Reads+Writes 440 MegaBytes/Sec. Also, I bought a 228 $, 1 TeraByte, PCIe Gen 3.0 x 4 "Samsung 970 EVO Plus"; Reads/Writes 3.5/3.3 GigaBytes/Sec. "Samsung Data Migration" will clone my current SSD. Some say they had to enable NVMe in the UEFI(bios). And I bought a 80 $ Corsair CX Series 650 Watt power supply. > Win10 is one of the best operating systems > I've seen for surviving a transplant into different H/W. It booted right away, but it was unstable for some unknown reason; it got more stable with time, even when I did nothing; power supply problem ? > I probably would have looked for an identical mobo on ebay first Newer motherboards are so much better+faster, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to upgrade. > Win10 would probably need re-activating. Yes, but I won't bother with that, even though I could. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.9--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate My (once nice) PC (prematurely) died (motherboard?). Since my (once nice) PC (prematurely) died (motherboard?), it's taken me 7 (sleepless) days to recover; to wit (rounding): 1 day to come to grips, buy an Amazon Fire tablet, and order parts. 2 days to get the parts ( Amazon Prime ). 1 day to piece it together ( no hardware issues ). 3 days to load+modify software. I had to do a clean install ( shutdown /r /o ) of Win10 v1903; contrary to MSI support, my original copy of Windows wasn't needed. To save time, I activated it using a well-known key. I had to re-install+re-configure all of my apps+fonts too; _ plenty _ of tangents, of course. Upgrading to Firefox 69 was a _ Royal _ pain, as expected; each upgrade destroys my previous settings in a spectacular way. I used the "Chrome Inspector" ( a.k.a. "Browser Toolbox" ); see: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userChrome.CSS.TXT http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT I'm not done modifying my copy of Visual Studio 2019 initially, I had to use Notepad++ instead. For some _ strange _ reason, my PC simply got more-n-more stable with time; it's fine now. My firmware was only 1 month older than the current release; but I updated it anyways. ( MSI MPG z390 Gaming Edge AC ) Motherboard Drivers: M-Flash BIOS, April 1, 2019, vA50 -- E7B17IMS.A50 Chipset Driver, May 8, 2019, v10.1.17968.8131 Network Drivers, July 30, 2019, v24.0.0.11 RST ( SSD, M.2 ) Driver, May 8, 2019, v17.2.6.1027 Wi-Fi Driver (unused), July 30, 2019, v21.30.1.0 RealTek Audio (unused), Aug 7, 2019, v6.0.8765.1 iGPU (unused), March 6, 2019, v25.20.100.6471 I used MSI's "Mystic Light" to turn off the motherboard's LEDs. The CPU fan has an LED controller on its cable; I turned it off. On the ATX case, I used a front panel button to turn off fan LEDs; I covered the _ Bright _ blue "On" LED with 4 layers of Gorilla tape; I left the red "hard disk activity" LED as is ( it's barely noticeable ). Front panel USBs: 2.0, 2.0, 3.0 Back: 2.0, 2.0, 3.1, 3.1, 3.1 Gen2, 3.1 Gen2 TypeC ( 20 volt, 100 watt {hot}, 8k 60Hz +audio ). Aug 12, 2019: 130 $, Loctek Monitor Arm, Max: 33 lbs, 34 inch monitor. Aug 9, 2019: 34 $, Logitech g600 mouse (cheap!). Aug 6, 2019: 80 $, ddr4 RAM, 3 GigaHz ( gaming mode ), 16 gigs. 80 $, Amazon Fire Tablet. 296 $, i7-8700, 4.25+ GigaHz ( gaming mode ). 34 $, CPU Fan, 4 copper, water-in-a-vacuum HeatPipes. 178 $, "MSI MPG z390 Gaming Edge AC" motherboard. 80 $, ATX Mid-Tower Chassis. Jul 26, 2019: 150 $, MSI GeForce GTX 1650 video card, MadVR 4k, 60 fps. Jul 16, 2019: 64 $, TP-Link AC1750, Archer a7 router. May 1, 2019: 142 $, Logitech g635 HeadSet, after-tax. Feb 18, 2018: 114 $, Logitech g910 keyboard. Jul 12, 2017: 978 $, 4k, 40", 25 lb, Philips bdm4037uw curved monitor. 17.43" to the center, from the right edge. Nov 21, 2015: 350 $, 1 TeraByte Samsung 850 EVO, SATA III. Dec 8, 2012: 160 $, Fanless power supply, Rosewill SilentNight. Jul 27, 2011: 152 $, Brother DCP-7065DN Laser Printer+Scanner. 3'022 $ Total, before Seattle's 10% tax. ■ MitchellRaemsch a6d7b45d-5314-48e2-90ec-8f850626312b@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gqkb8lFechbU2@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--10.36pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m10 Top; 2.6 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Aug 2 { 7:53pm, 2019 }: 9^(10) XΤSу The science-fiction guys make more money. Sylvia replied ( to Mitchell ): > What's the point of continuing to post this stuff, > if you're unwilling, or unable, to respond to repeated > explanations as to why your analysis is wrong ? If you hate science, and you love science-fiction, then "Sci.Physics" is a good place to vent your anger. Here, you can feel all superior, compared to us "autistic eggheads". After all, the science-fiction guys make more money. ■ hanson│hanson@quick_net qhvfk3$csi$1@dont-email.me MrAA 5321be9a-f2c8-4234-b757-7cde43513db3@googlegroups.com SamWormley 6d7a0f12-3d1c-49b0-bad9-fc7eff845b93@googlegroups.com MrAA 57ed6b13-c850-4734-8242-02a054a3782d@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--6.30pm.Seattle.2019 The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D44FF3C.7B10@ix.netcom.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--9.22pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m63 Dropped; 48.9 Minutes, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Netfront.NET, Aug 2 { 8:27pm, 2019 }:56^(-7) XΤYϜ Chinese people adore Jews. Starmaker asked: > Have you ever heard anyone say..."I Love Jews!"? I love the Jewish culture; Einstein, comedians, bankers, all of it. Chinese people adore Jews. ■ HerbertGlazier d260e675-d957-4ad3-aaa3-36347251ffef@googlegroups.com hanson│hanson@quick_net qhvfk3$csi$1@dont-email.me MrAA 5321be9a-f2c8-4234-b757-7cde43513db3@googlegroups.com SamWormley 6d7a0f12-3d1c-49b0-bad9-fc7eff845b93@googlegroups.com MrAA 57ed6b13-c850-4734-8242-02a054a3782d@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--6.30pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m51 Top; 1.1 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 2 { 5: 3pm, 2019 }: 9^(PDT) XΤ0Ξ Hanson was shot in the head by a Jew. Apparently, Hanson was shot in the head by a Jew; ever since, he's been unable to explain why he hates them. ■ SamWormley 471342f2-aed4-4d5c-8ab9-61daad1cca7b@googlegroups.com MrAA 4c8eaa90-5359-474f-a209-1e183a9528c8@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--6.19pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m51 Top; 1.6 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 2 { 4:34pm, 2019 }:54^(PDT) XΣჱд "dark matter" is vacuum energy. "dark energy" is just entropy. "dark matter" is vacuum energy. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ pt67keh7va18t6q12p4e119lmasijaln2m@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.47pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-A49366.02100602082019@reader.eternal-september.org snipeco_2@gmail_com(Sn!pe 1obofnh.1t1i5x1egll60N%snipeco.2@gmail.com Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-770FF7.05550802082019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--7.57am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m11 Dropped; 1.8 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 2 { 5:55am, 2019 }:17^(-7) XΣϷɅ Everything is nothing. The future is just as fixed as the past, the time-scape is static; randomness is naught but ignorance, everything is nothing. Our Universe is going from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse; so "God" (nature) has us playing the "sustainable consumption" game. ■ The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D43441E.6429@ix.netcom.com The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D434B71.26E9@ix.netcom.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ pt67keh7va18t6q12p4e119lmasijaln2m@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.47pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-A49366.02100602082019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.2--7.44am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m11 Dropped; 5.5 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Aug 2 { 2:10am, 2019 }:14^(-7) XΣμϼ No one is living the fantasy. Siri Cruise replied ( to me ): > > Like video games, porn isn't real. > > The first step is realising you live the fantasy. No one is living the fantasy, I assure you. Every dollar a man earns is just another reason for a woman to dump his smelly ass. God forbid he take out a life insurance policy. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--6.21am.Seattle.2019 The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D41C6EC.1BF9@ix.netcom.com The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D43441E.6429@ix.netcom.com The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D434B71.26E9@ix.netcom.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019 The_Right_And_The_Powerful│ pt67keh7va18t6q12p4e119lmasijaln2m@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.47pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m12 Dropped; 25.3 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds, Aug 1 { 7:13pm, 2019 }:17^(-5) XΣʎɅ Porn isn't real. An idiot told me: > I'm sure you could make some connection from porn > to your "young men should not have sex" angle. Sure: Like video games, porn isn't real life. ■ HerbertGlazier d260e675-d957-4ad3-aaa3-36347251ffef@googlegroups.com SamWormley d5496ab2-e6cb-4c1f-a92d-7f27e84ea5b3@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier 39c37859-bcbd-4de6-845f-f691166a840f@googlegroups.com MrAA f7c386a8-c2f0-4dbb-93e3-b1bc57a224b4@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--7.32pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m49 Top; 2.3 Hours, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Aug 1 { 4:34pm, 2019 }: 1^(PDT) XΣɳϡ I love my life because I'm heavily invested in it. I love my life because I'm heavily invested in it. If you invested in others, and they let you down, then you failed. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--6.21am.Seattle.2019 The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D41C6EC.1BF9@ix.netcom.com The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D43441E.6429@ix.netcom.com The_Starmaker│starmaker@ix_ 5D434B71.26E9@ix.netcom.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.1--6.49pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m3 Dropped; 5.2 Hours, Gecko➤Mozilla➤WinNT, Netfront.NET, Aug 1 { 1:28pm, 2019 }:33^(-7) XΣɔП She'll kill you for a cigarette. "Starmaker" wrote: > I know guys who cannot pick up any girl at nightclubs; > so I point to them where I keep my supply... > and BINGO, he scores the first time! How stupid would one have to be to allow a fake "wife" to empty one's pockets ? She'll kill you for a cigarette. Get her pregnant and you'll collect another child support obligation, not a child. If that is fulfilling to you, then you have low standards. Calcutta is becoming more like America and vice versa. ■ Aug 1, 2019 . " A marriage license is the original communist manifesto ! " Amen, brother ! EXACTLY. And Karl Marx impregnated his employee ( the maid ), and then disavowed the resulting child, keeping it a secret from everyone, including his wife. Such is THE REALITY of Marxism, under the façade. Polygamy is a form of capitalism ( best man wins ); monogamy is socialism ( guaranteed equal outcomes ). Promiscuous gays are more talented. Communism is " a financial gulag ", you say. Powerful Governments steal with ease, but can't win souls. Calcutta is becoming more like America and vice versa. ■ Aug 1, 2019 . Please don't delude yourself, Patrick can't stop her from taking his child. She can take his stupid money, but shall never get his soul; so it's hard on her too, but Patrick is much, MUCH more likely to take his life. The kid doesn't care, he just wants to play video games. As is most often the case, she divorced him, not the other way around; his parents don't like her. Monogamy used to work, but it doesn't anymore; today it's more likely to destroy your life, not help it. MGTOW: In the modern world, the "husband" position has a negative value; e.g. people spend billions to rid themselves of their "husband" status. InCel: There are no pretty young women ( or nice young men ) left in rural China; they've all gone to the city; so ugly old farmers (foolishly) buy a fake "wife" from North Korea -- because they're desperate+naïve+uneducated. Even there, it doesn't end well. "Human Trafficking" is a sick joke. Everyone, including feminists: Modern society has replaced the family with something entirely different. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.31--6.21am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate Modern society has replaced the family with something entirely different. In the modern world, the "husband" position has a negative value; e.g. people spend billions to rid themselves of their "husband" status. There are no pretty young women ( or nice young men ) left in rural China; they've all gone to the city; so ugly old farmers (foolishly) buy a fake "wife" from North Korea -- because they're desperate+naïve+uneducated. Even there, it doesn't end well. "Human Trafficking" is a sick joke. Modern society has replaced the family with something entirely different. ■ T│T@invalid_invalid qhibbt$8r3$1@dont-email.me Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq3rnfFs97nU1@mid.individual.net T│T@invalid_invalid qhlhc2$l0l$1@dont-email.me Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq73ppFisdrU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--10.16pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhm3ff$pa5$2@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.29--2.27am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m201 Top; 3 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 28 { 11:24pm, 2019 }:48^(-4) XΟоm The robots are getting better even as people are getting worse. Paul: > It'd be good if a snack-fetching robot could also weld; > so it could work at the car plant all day, > then come home and fetch snacks for me. You just described the perfect spouse. The robots are getting better even as people are getting worse. ■ T│T@invalid_invalid qhgiog$4mc$2@dont-email.me Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq30qgFmihbU1@mid.individual.net T│T@invalid_invalid qhibbt$8r3$1@dont-email.me Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq3rnfFs97nU1@mid.individual.net T│T@invalid_invalid qhlhc2$l0l$1@dont-email.me Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq73ppFisdrU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--10.16pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m27 Cool; 2.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Jul 28 { 7:26pm, 2019 }: 2^(-5) XΟЖɺ In America, robots are our only hope. Getting a good display, with the highest resolution+fps, is the hardest part of any build. The proper size of a monitor is an interesting question; it depends on how close you want it to be. There may come a day when everyone will be wearing computer screens; so you'll have no idea what anyone is looking at. In America, robots are our only hope; they must get better, because people are getting worse. ■ ScottDoty gq6on3FgmlsU1@mid.individual.net TheSnitBot gq6t81Fhi7iU3@mid.individual.net ScottDoty gq6v6jFgmlsU3@mid.individual.net TheSnitBot gq70joFi97hU1@mid.individual.net TheSnitBot gq72ddFijf3U1@mid.individual.net SteveCarroll qhllpc$g8q$3@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.28--9.43pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 3 m275 Mad; 2.1 Hours, slrn➤openMac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 28 { 7:31pm, 2019 }: 8 XΟЗȺ Snit couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. Snit couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. ■ T│T@invalid_invalid qhgu6e$hqk$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhhpir$tj4$1@dont-email.me T│T@invalid_invalid qhib5o$7po$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhifnn$3uf$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--3.20pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhilbt$40g$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--6.47pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m199 Top; 2.3 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 27 { 4: 5pm, 2019 }:34^(-4) XΞწნ FFmPeg ? Paul wrote: > Chop (to uncompressed intermediate format): > > ffmpeg -i KEY01.mp4 -map 0 -copytb 1 -c:v rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr24 -af "volume=6dB" > -ac 2 -c:a pcm_s16le -f segment -segment_list out.list > -segment_frames 26267,52535,78803,105071,131339,157607,183875,210143,236411,262679,288947 > G:\WORK\out%03d.mov > > Then, twelve encoding instances similar to this: > > cd /d C:\FFMPEG\bin > ffmpeg -i G:\WORK\out000.mov -vcodec cinepak -ac 2 -acodec pcm_s16le G:\WORK\a00.mov > > The join operation is almost purely a file copy operation, > with only the ends being spliced in a lossless way. > The rate operator corrects the damaged frame rate. > > ffmpeg -f concat -r 30000/1001 -i filelist.txt -c copy N:\concattest2.avi > > The filelist.txt has twelve lines similar to this: > > file 'G:\WORK\a00.avi' ffmpeg -i L:\movie.mpg -f image2 -q:v 1 -c:v mjpeg a%03d.jpg ■ T│T@invalid_invalid qhgiog$4mc$2@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhgqr0$3ml$1@dont-email.me T│T@invalid_invalid qhgu6e$hqk$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhhpir$tj4$1@dont-email.me T│T@invalid_invalid qhib5o$7po$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhifnn$3uf$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--3.20pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m199 Top; 22.5 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 27 { 2:29pm, 2019 }:28^(-4) XΞნზ FFmPeg ? Paul wrote: > The resulting 12 movie segments were then joined > via lossless join, at around 150MB/sec. Using what, FFmPeg ? what are the commandline switches ? Can it save-off a 1 minute segment from 60 minute video ? 150 MegaBytes/sec ?! I thought a 26 MegaBits/sec video was a lot. What was the FPS and resolution ? > If I ran the entire movie through one core, > it would have taken forever. > But that's what the software wanted to do. Googling " multi-threaded video editor " doesn't look promising; I doubt video editors use cores efficiently. ■ T│T@invalid_invalid qhfuvq$i84$1@dont-email.me lonelydad│lonelydad58@gmail_ XnsAA98EA2678203lonelydad58gmailcom@69.16.179.29 T│T@invalid_invalid qhgiog$4mc$2@dont-email.me Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq30qgFmihbU1@mid.individual.net T│T@invalid_invalid qhibbt$8r3$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--2.21pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m116 Cool; 49.4 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 27 { 1:14pm, 2019 }:51^(-7) XΞაʫ Scary UFO Tests. Someone wrote: > Most applications do not thread worth beans. > I instead put my money towards NVMe drives and fast > memory buses. Now that makes a YUGE difference. The monitor, graphics card, and monitor arm are the hardest to get right, I think. The Apple monitor cost 6000$, and the stand is 1000$. Compared to that, the motherboard is chump change. Scary UFO Tests: http://TestUFO.COM ■ Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhdadd$6lj$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.16pm.Seattle.2019 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.37pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhgvgj$nv1$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.27--2.19am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m195 Top; 2.3 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 27 { :46am, 2019 }:28^(-4) XΞΧК Only a 240 hertz monitor can scroll without jitter. Paul, I don't have an IPS monitor; so a notionally "black" screen looks cloudy in various places ( unrelated to the edge ) and the clouds shift, depending on the viewing angle. When staring at bright text, the background looks truly black. > Task Manager is nothing special. It has not been > granted any super-powers. It runs under the management > of DWM like everything else. Check out this vertical scrolling test: http://TestUFO.COM/framerates-text > And I don't think the special effects settings > [ Run: SystemPropertiesPerformance ] has anything to help. > There's probably at least one "smooth scrolling" > special effect, but it doesn't do what you think it does. I don't see a "Smooth Scrolling" option anywhere. > It would slow down the scroll, because it attempts to > do it a row of pixels at a time. And it is likely to > have a pretty miserable scroll throttle on it. > > The scroll you see now, should do the scrolling with > multiple rows of pixels per move. Correct, only a 240 hertz monitor can scroll without jitter. Compounding the issue, the importance of better resolution is demonstrated here ( 4k isn't enough for me ): http://TestUFO.COM/aliasing-visibility When editing text, I want a small screen, up close; so I don't have to swivel my head to see the corners. When watching videos, I want a large, distant screen; so I can relax, all casual-like, with it out of my way. Anywho... I'll put away the shrooms now. > Your monitor could have dynamic backlighting, I turned it on, just now, using the OSD; it's strange to watch the brightness vary, as if by some invisible hand, all the time. Turning on Nvidia's "Full Dynamic Range" option ( 0 to 255, instead of 16 to 235 ! ) under "Color Settings" ( under "Change Resolution" in Nvidia's "Control Panel" ) makes blacks blacker. Also, turn on "dynamic brightness" ( a.k.a. "SmartContrast" ) using the On-Screen Display, so darker screens are darker and videos are brighter. > The dynamic option is typically used for video, > and makes movies look better. Interesting; I think it does, I'll leave it on. > LED backlighting solutions should have a tremendous > adjustment range . Unlike CCFL, they have no limitations > on intensity. Using PWM (pulse width modulation), you > keep the current flow at a high level, and vary the > percentage of the time that current is applied. The PWM > clock could be running at 25KHz. Frequencies like that > are selected so the power circuits are not audible to humans. Interesting. Varying the voltage is harder than switching it on+off, apparently. ■ Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhdadd$6lj$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.16pm.Seattle.2019 Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.37pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╳ m76 Top; 1.2 Days, X.HTM, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 25 { 4:16pm, 2019 }:29^(Seattle) XΝϘЛ Better hardware doesn't always improve bad software. I wrote: > I'll be getting my new 150$ video card tomorrow, > so I can run 4K at 60 Hz, instead of 30 Hz > ( i.e. HDMI 2.0B, instead of 1.4 ). > > The test will be to see how jumpy the scrolling is, > in the Task Manager ( I don't play complex video games ). > > If there's no improvement, then I'll return the card. > Hopefully, that won't happen. > https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B07QR2YFTX I think I'll keep it, especially after running through the (scary) tests at "TestUFO.COM". Task Manager's scrolling still looks like crap; but there's probably nothing I can do about it; no big deal. Better hardware doesn't always improve bad software. Linus cares about FPS first, HDR second, resolution 3rd, and, finally, screen size ( because he's sitting close to it ). I think you need a 144 hertz monitor to scroll without jitter; see: http://TestUFO.COM/framerates-text I like the size of my my 40 inch, 4k, 60 Hz, curved monitor; despite the largeness, some text is _ still too tiny to read, and there's no (decent) way to increase the font size. I recently added a 150 $ GTX 1650 graphics card ( instead of using my i7-5775c's iGPU ). In Zoom Player, MadVR now works, especially with LAV; so 4k 60 fps videos Play/FastForward better than they did before. My LAV Video Decoder has more optimization options now; so CPU usage is down. Video game animation looks better. My video editor, OpenShot, probably works better; but I haven't tested it. BackLight bleeding is much, much worse now, for some reason; 50% Contrast with 50% Brightness seems to work best now. Brightness is way up. The GTX 1650 Aero ITX card doesn't fit properly in my Micro ATX box; but, after removing the backplate, it sorta fits. I ran "ctTune" ( ClearType Tuner ) again. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ubfmjed1prfi0gdt6lharppnngbl9d1kd4@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.07am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall maimje9s0irbh3q02fi9qei9lakndnlind@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--1.45pm.Seattle.2019 PeeScent cdcg8c.kq9.19.2@news.alt.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--4.22pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate --Robot, 1.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Alt.NET, Jul 26 { 2:18pm, 2019 }:36^(-7) XΞɝa This is why we can't have nice things. PeeScent replied ( to me ): > > I buy Bounty Select-A-Size Paper Towels, > > 8 Triple Rolls ( == 24 Regular Rolls ), from WalMart, online. > > 19.88$, 3 cents / SqFt. > > I steal that stuff from public washrooms. This is why we can't have nice things. If it wasn't for people like you, PeeScent, we could have strong+soft+absorbent paper towels in public restrooms. China is using facial recognition to dispense paper towels; but they don't give you enough; so you still have to carry around your own supply. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 3gcmje16du4kgnmolfp94sutvoninv25mj@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ubfmjed1prfi0gdt6lharppnngbl9d1kd4@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.07am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall maimje9s0irbh3q02fi9qei9lakndnlind@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--1.45pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m213 Dropped; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 26 { 11:43am, 2019 }:18^(-4) XΞȹɌ 3 cents / SqFt, Paper Towels. Greg: > Paper towels and toilet paper I buy in those big twelve paks. I buy Bounty Select-A-Size Paper Towels, 8 Triple Rolls ( == 24 Regular Rolls ), from WalMart, online. 19.88$, 3 cents / SqFt. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-FB3FF9.10124326072019@reader.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.54am.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qhfgjm$ttt$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--1.25pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m11 Cool; 1.7 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Aioe.ORG, Jul 26 { 11:25am, 2019 }:58^(-4) XΞȶɶ Dredd and Natalia Queen. > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vaginal.Orgasm.mp4 > > One of your streetpeople tenants I presume? > I"m talking about the man, Actors: Dredd and Natalia Queen. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 3gcmje16du4kgnmolfp94sutvoninv25mj@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall ubfmjed1prfi0gdt6lharppnngbl9d1kd4@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--11.07am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m97 Dropped; 7 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 26 { 10:51am, 2019 }:12^(-4) XΞwΡ Vaseline and Paper Towels. > > After applying the Vaseline, paper towels dry your hands. > > No leaking, No mess. Greasy Dick, Dry Hands. > > > > If you feel like cuming a second time, leave it on, > > as your cum is a superb lube; otherwise, split it open, > > wipe it down, and let it dry on its side. > > Thanks, I think I'll order one... Don't forget the Vaseline and paper towels; lots of paper towels. ■ BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-FB3FF9.10124326072019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.54am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m23 Dropped; 5.5 Minutes, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 26 { 10:12am, 2019 }:52^(-7) XΞqq Learn how to cum without much help. Siri Cruise replied ( to me ): > > I'm good at it, so it never breaks. > > It's good to let all potential rejecting partners > know that you can't tax a vacuum cleaner hose. Learn how to cum without much help. A _ vaginal orgasm: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/_Vaginal.Orgasm.mp4 [ 3+ minutes run-time, 680 MegaBytes, 4k ] Legs+knees are key; see: " My First Orgasm - Kate Trower " http://Youtube.COM/watch?v=C7y_eOEM7i4 To orgasm faster, a woman's legs should be tense, not lax; e.g. stiffly pointing one's legs in opposite directions. ■ BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 3gcmje16du4kgnmolfp94sutvoninv25mj@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.43am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m96 Dropped; 14.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 26 { 10: 3am, 2019 }:54^(-4) XΞoϚ Greasy Dick, Dry Hands. Greg replied ( to me ): > So, it's some sort of silicone sleeve that > is contained inside a plastic case that splits in two and > is held closed by a clip and it somehow creates a suction > but you have to manually stroke it up and down ? Yes. Press it once, manually, and you've got extreme suction; there's a one-way valve. After that, you don't have to touch it at all, it just feels good; you can just keep "edging" ( resisting the desire to stroke ). > I don't really see how that's much > better than one's lubed-up hand ????? After applying the Vaseline, paper towels dry your hands. No leaking, No mess. Greasy Dick, Dry Hands. If you feel like cuming a second time, leave it on, as your cum is a superb lube; otherwise, split it open, wipe it down, and let it dry on its side. Toss the outer container, you don't need it. ■ BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-486042.00411726072019@reader.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.21am.Seattle.2019 Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37a4cbd75826ecef797@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--10.11am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m184 Mad; 3.9 Minutes, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Jul 26 { 9:36am, 2019 }:10^(-7) XΞkA Reaching for the nurse's tits. > > A 90-year-old who acts like a like a drunk 15-year-old is just retarded. > > Do people in their Nineties even remember what sex is? Sex is the only thing they can remember. I can see them now, reaching for the nurse's tits. ■ SamWormley c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall 44amjelsfonto3fam9hq9cqah95vrn1ft2@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.57am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m95 Dropped; 16.5 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 26 { 9:23am, 2019 }:40^(-4) XΞhტ The (naked) twist. Greg replied ( to me ): > > the 65$ White Tenga Flip Zero is best. > > http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC > > I clicked on the site and the reviews are > not the greatest pertaining to durability. > > It could be that this is now a cheap Chinese knock off > of the original as indicated in some reviews. No, it's the real deal, from Japan. The electronic version is beyond "stupid"; and the black version is too hard on one's dick. Even the white version can be hard on your dick; Vaseline, and normal wear, make it smoother. Ordinary lube is insane, I don't know why anyone uses it. A flimsy clip holds the unit together, so it doesn't split in half ( for cleaning ). It's tricky, and will break, if you're not careful. I'm good at it, so it never breaks. There is no seam at the base, where your cock enters; so it never leaks. One guy wrote: "I could do the (naked) twist and it wouldn't come off". ■ SamWormley c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 onion@anon_invalid(Mr_On!on 1obbd9b.1fwelle109484kN%onion@anon.invalid Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.32am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m5 Dropped; 8 Hours, MacSOUP➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 26 { 1:10am, 2019 }:29^(1) XΝяЛ Only women like vibrators. Onion replied ( to me ): > > The 65$ White Tenga Flip Zero is best. > > http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC > > I can hear the buzz all the way over here, right now. Mine doesn't buzz. I don't know why Tenga offers an "electronic" version, only women like vibrators. And it adds 110$ to the price. The vibrating version does nothing but lower the star count in the reviews. ■ SamWormley c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-486042.00411726072019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.21am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m22 Dropped; 8.5 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 26 { :41am, 2019 }:25^(-7) XΝъდ Horny old men are pathetic, a dime a dozen. Siri Cruise: > What's the difference between MGTOW and Incel ? > Whether women are still slapping you. Horny old men are pathetic, a dime a dozen. A 90-year-old who acts like a like a drunk 15-year-old is just retarded. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 KenW│kenw@nono_net jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019 Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gpv0e4FqnrlU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--10.12pm.Seattle.2019 Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gq0i6eF6ektU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.26--9.01am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 +-, 19.6 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Jul 26 { 7:48am, 2019 }:47^(-5) XΞSl I must've been hallucinating. Rene replied ( to me ): > > Why are you running such an ancient computer ? > > Z390, i7 8700, is that ancient enough to qualify ? Sorry, I must've been hallucinating. > > What's your beef with me ? > > No beef, I just think you're a little unwrapped. Who isn't ? ■ SamWormley c2c97d6e-1249-44de-a567-1f20fd2627aa@googlegroups.com Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qhcr11$nrp$1@gioia.aioe.org BenJacoby qhcvql$1c7o$4@gioia.aioe.org HerbertGlazier 6a810be8-4ca1-4b12-ac53-7de8400dd514@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.59pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 3 m264 Mad; 9.1 Hours, GoogleG, 74.118.32.5, Jul 25 { 2:25pm, 2019 }:21^(PDT) XΝοɑ In America we rely on robots for our food, and our sex. Bert: > Wish I had a girlfriend to take a cold shower with. That makes you an "InCel" ( Involuntary Celibate ), Bert; I'm a "MGTOW" ( I _ choose to not have sex ). I will _ not let a (fake) "wife" boss me around; there's a million better ways to spend my time+money. > at 91 should I by a 5 foot rubber doll? > Nay, that is a waste of $$$$. In Calcutta you get the best food, and it costs almost nothing. In America we rely on robots for our food, and our sex. I've spent hundreds of dollars trying various masturbators; the 65$ White Tenga Flip Zero is best. http://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B01GNSP2XC The suction is mind-boggling; it never falls off, nor does it ever leak, and you don't have to hold it, it feels good just being attached, so one can edge for hours. Initially, the clip was hard to put on, but I've since mastered it. And it's still working, despite 6+ months of using it-and-ONLY-it. Vaseline is far-and-away the best lubricant; I have no idea why anyone would recommend anything else, -- and, no, it doesn't harm the device. Paper towels keep my hands dry. To clean it: take off the clip, split it open, wipe it down, and lay it on its side ( to dry ). The outer-case is useless, I tossed it. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 KenW│kenw@nono_net jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019 Rene_Lamontagne│rlamont@shaw_ gpv0e4FqnrlU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--10.12pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 +-, 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤WinX, Individual.NET, Jul 25 { 5:39pm, 2019 }:32^(-5) XΝϴν An unimaginably heavy Windows user+programmer ever since 1989. Rene replied ( to me ): > > You shouldn't worry about me. > > Not to fear, I won't spend any time worrying about you. What's your beef with me ? Why are you in Hangzhou ? Why are you running an ancient computer ? ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 . qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net . Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 . jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhdn0a$sgk$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--7.32pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m13 Top; 52 Secs, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 25 { 7: 2pm, 2019 }:50^(-4) XΝВʪ Call me crazy+insane but... Paul replied ( to me ): > > You shouldn't worry about me. > > Our main concern here, is you don't give people > ideas that they can't handle. > > For example, you might get away with renaming the > kernel to "barney", but no one else will. Call me crazy+insane but... I've no use for library folders; "customizing" ( i.e. assigning a type to, e.g. video ) folders is a good idea. Most of my executables are installed under "C:\__\EXEs", as "C:\__" my primary folder. My Firefox "profile", which often gets backed up, daily or more, is kept in "C:\__\FF". (Sloppy) Programs that don't let me set the location of the settings folders fall under "C:\__\Sys\AppData" (%LocalAppData%) -- because they MUST be children of my parent folder, "C:\__". My source code is in "C:\__\_Source", my videos are in "C:\__\mp4", my music is in "C:\__\mp3", my taskbar items are in "C:\__\TaskBar", my temporary files are in "C:\__\Tmp", my Startup items are in "C:\__\Startup", my speech recognition data+settings are in "C:\__\Relf_Speak", my .PNG+.JPG files are in "C:\__\Pics", and I don't want other programs to be messing with them, nor do I want them to even know about them, without my explicit consent. And so on, and so on, with many other child folders. I do not use the "desktop" folder; I (almost) never see it. C: CD C:\__\Sys\AppData\LGHUB RoboCopy . A:\__\Sys\AppData\LGHUB /R:0 /NDL /S /B /mir /J /NJH /NJS /NP /UNILOG:C:\__\X\__.TXT CD C:\__\mp4 REM Note videos, don't back them up: RoboCopy . A:\__\mp4 /L /mir /NDL /NJH /NJS /NP /UNILOG:..\X\mp4.TXT CD C:\__ RoboCopy . A:\__ /R:0 /XF __.TXT *.mp4 *.MKV *.WebM /XD Sys Tmp Del *[rarbg] *TileDataLayer *Packages *vs *EXE *Recent *IE-Tmp *Windows /NDL /S /B /mir /J /NJH /NJS /NP /UNILOG+:C:\__\X\__.TXT C:\__\X\__.TXT exit REM Sys ( Don't exlude: "*Microsoft" ) help RoboCopy REM /L = ListOnly /R:0 = No Retries. /B = Backing up, override permissions. /S = Ignore Empty Folders. /NDL = No Directory Listing. /NJH /NJS = No Header/Footer. /J = No Buffering. /NP = Don't log %done. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--7.00pm.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qhceap$smk$1@gioia.aioe.org Arindam_Banerjee│ 9e9ba376-a340-4880-be9b-ea2ddc4bcc4c@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--6.05pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m14 Dropped; 17.9 Minutes, GoogleG, Jul 25 { 5:39pm, 2019 }:14^(PDT) XΝϴΤ Without robots, making our food, we'd be lost. Arindam Banerjee: > Kolkata has great food and fun, very cheap. > It has electricity and Internet, warm weather. > What more can one want ? The fine dining, at a ultra cheap price, would go away if they had a 15$/hour minimum wage, like we do, here in Seattle. Without robots, making our food, we'd be lost. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 KenW│kenw@nono_net jfbkje55a237gnr4u5qe9en9p7sbjbj850@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.33pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m7 Cool; 45.3 Minutes, F_Agent, Giganews.COM, Jul 25 { 3:33pm, 2019 }: 4^(-6) XΝϐΙ An unimaginably heavy Windows user+programmer ever since 1989. KenW replied ( to me ): > > I prefer my own special backup system. > > I am going to keep this post because I will wait for your help message You shouldn't worry about me. I've been an unimaginably heavy Windows user+programmer ever since 1989. I was programing MicroSoft DOS boxen, professionally, back in 1983. Here's a screenshot of my YouTube comment history in Firefox v67, Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhdadd$6lj$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--4.16pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 8 m197 Top; 19 Secs, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 25 { 3:27pm, 2019 }:58^(-4) XΝωϞ I'm 100% content with my custom backup system. Paul, I'm 100% content with my custom backup system. I've no desire to back up "the MBR, the PBR, and so on"; nor do I desire a "1903 installer DVD". I have a 128 gig, bootable USB drive ( mostly used to _ occasionally mirror my files+settings ). Vital Files are backed up to my FTP server ( in Anaheim CA ). P.S. Recently, Linus Tech Tips convinced me that a higher refresh rate is worth the money. So I'll be getting my new 150$ video card tomorrow, so I can run 4K at 60 Hz, instead of 30 Hz ( i.e. HDMI 2.0B, instead of 1.4 ). The test will be to see how jumpy the scrolling is, in the Task Manager ( I don't play complex video games ). If there's no improvement, then I'll return the card. Hopefully, that won't happen. https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B07QR2YFTX ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--7.00pm.Seattle.2019 BenJacoby qhceap$smk$1@gioia.aioe.org Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qhcfc1$11ed$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--3.17pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m32 Cool; 3.8 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Jul 25 { 7:46am, 2019 }:15^(-5) XΝʓϽ Diseases roiling through camps. Only puppies get rescued, not human strays. As America devolves into Calcutta, China takes our previous glory. "Strays" can join a communal tent ( in a Metro camp ), and harass people for money ( with impunity ). Imagine the diseases roiling through these camps. Meanwhile, our politicians are confined to simpler ideas; like "Nazi Racist", and "AntiFa". ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhd7v8.bs4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--2.58pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 4 m35 Cool; 45 Minutes, tin➤CygWin, Individual.NET, Jul 25 { :46pm, 2019 }:30 XΝΧМ I manually removed|renamed all "Library" folders. Frank replied ( to me ): > In the 'Library locations' box, you can define > to which *folderS* (one or more) your library points. Zero or More. I manually removed all of the "Library" folders; and I renamed all of its subfolders. How this will affect my next major (version) update ? Thank you for telling me about "Libraries" and "optimizing/customizing" a folder for (e.g.) videos. Normally, I ignore+hide the navigation pane. > the File History backup mechanism. I prefer my own special backup system. ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 1c7fjepq83bv3j97c48mehsun2rkr6tg1d@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qh8f43$19v$2@dont-email.me Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qhcnl3.aak.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--0.02pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m32 Cool; 3.4 Hours, tin➤CygWin, Individual.NET, Jul 25 { 8: 8am, 2019 }: 4 XΝʗɼ " The Properties of the *library* 'Documents' " ? Frank replied ( to me ): > > I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys", > > as that's what I always call it. Unless+Until I do that, > > many programs can't find my settings. > > If you change the Properties of the *library* 'Documents' not to point > to the *folder* 'Documents', but to your 'Sys' folder, you shouldn't > have to change anything. " The Properties of the *library* 'Documents' " ? I don't know how to do whatever it is you're trying to suggest. I run Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition. ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 1c7fjepq83bv3j97c48mehsun2rkr6tg1d@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qh8f43$19v$2@dont-email.me Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019 KenW│kenw@nono_net 14sijetfbe2hrppfncc8okpl4v1reoo6jr@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.25--11.51am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m5 Cool; 9.3 Hours, F_Agent, Giganews.COM, Jul 25 { 2:11am, 2019 }:35^(-6) XΝɛო 1903-type updates destroy some of my settings. KenW replied ( to me ): > > I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys", > > as that's what I always call it. Unless+Until I do that, > > many programs can't find my settings. > > Win 10 does not like that. I run that way all the time, no problems; a 1903-type updates destroy some of my settings, but I can live with it. From "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT": ; SystemWide Environment Variables: ; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Environment ; "TMP"="%SystemRoot%\\Tmp" ; Reqires a ReBoot. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Volatile Environment] "USERPROFILE"="c:\\__\\Sys" "HOMEPATH"="c:\\__\\Sys" "APPDATA"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData" "LOCALAPPDATA"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData" ; Switch SysFolders to Short, Friendly Paths, all under "C:\__" ( Home ). ; ; First, "RightClick Properties -> Location -> Move" each special folder. ; Make Sure "MyDocumentsLocation", "Shell Folders"/"Personal", ; and "User Shell Folders"/"Personal" ( below ) agree with each other. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\15.0] "MyDocumentsLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys" "VisualStudioLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Microsoft\\VisStudio" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders] "Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys" "{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Sys" "{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow" "Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup" "SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo" "AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData" "Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData" "Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys" "Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow" "Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp" "Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop" "PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood" "NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood" "Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies" "Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent" "Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu" "Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs" "History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History" "Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates" "Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" "My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" "My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" "My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders] "Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys" "{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Sys" "{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow" "Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup" "SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo" "AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData" "Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData" "Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys" "Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow" "Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp" "Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop" "PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood" "NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood" "Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies" "Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent" "Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu" "Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs" "History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History" "Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates" "Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" "My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" "My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" "My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-" ■ July 25, 2019 Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate Vaginal Orgasm. ■ MrDFS IjH6E.385914$JW5.292576@fx46.iad Owl xz0b803ga.4@rooftop.invalid MrDFS 9%J6E.635307$QQ5.390103@fx45.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.6--4.18pm.Seattle.2019 Owl s8z0b8083t.a3u3j@rooftop.invalid SteveCarroll 8a31293f-e254-49d1-aa2a-9b34cca9e776@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.7--10.55am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m255 Mad; 4.9 Minutes, GoogleG, 73.95.165.110, Feb 7 { 10:20am, 2019 }:13^(PST) XɄΘʅ Getting laid, like Mr. Owl. Steve Carroll replied: > > > I've been 240 pounds for many years now ( 6ft, 60 years old ). > > 215 pounds (6ft.) I look like a rail at 183. To get laid, like Mr. Owl, I'd have to fix my teeth, dress nicer/cleaner, lose 90 lbs, do push-ups, and find a more prestigious, higher paying job. Even then, I'd have to pay for it, and let her fuck 20 year-olds too. She'd boss me around, and the sex would be horrible compared to: Tenga's "Flip Zero" latches on and won't let go, so you can edge for 5+ HOURS, even when you're distracted by something else. And it feels good after nutting too -- so even a 60 year-old man, like me, nuts multiple times. Vaseline is the best lube. It never leaks; no mess. When done, open it up, wipe it down with a paper towel, and lay it on its side. Once dry, put it back in its case, so it stays clean. If this product doesn't take over the world, the world is wrong. ■ Hitler│hitler@nazi-america_com cc9ijedurbvca88l9a6kqppc75hftnb9cu@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.33pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 1.4 Hours, F_Agent, Aioe.ORG, Jul 24 { 8:44pm, 2019 }:29^(-5) XΝbʕ Welcome to Calcutta. > Welcome to NAZI AMERICA !!!! It looks more like Calcutta to me. Welcome to Calcutta. ■ Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com vu0fjedmecmnu7n09ovegf64iqamg7glb0@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qh83c9$gbg$1@dont-email.me Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 1c7fjepq83bv3j97c48mehsun2rkr6tg1d@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qh8f43$19v$2@dont-email.me Peter_Jason│pj@jostle_com 4vohje178llsg1gq37e4l7ue6814j25urr@4ax.com Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qhb2lp$hnc$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--10.26pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 4 m192 Top; 3.1 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 24 { 7: 3pm, 2019 }:37^(-4) XΝKς Windows Update never works for me. Windows Update never works for me; when I try to use it, it's ultra-miserable, with MULTIPLE SLOW, FAILING REBOOTS. So I think it's best to never use it; I turn off those services. Downloading 1903, for example, works well enough for me; it takes an hour or so to set up correctly afterwards, but it's not too bad. I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys", as that's what I always call it. Unless+Until I do that, many programs can't find my settings. I think I have to restore from my backups, at times. Also, I have to re-take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-, [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost] Re-Merge-In my settings ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT ), check for updates, ReBoot. Also, I have to re-format all of my File-Explorer folders, so they look the way I want -- very annoying. ■ Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.24--7.00pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate America is devolving into Calcutta. America is devolving into Calcutta. Yet no presidential candidate mentions it. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Deficits-n-Recession.PNG ■ . Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 . qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me . ci9bje57e57uqrlnvh0i60qesku2dcsmkf@4ax.com . 28243c50-bc8f-4d26-8873-ca7eb905a1d6@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.54am.Seattle.2019 MrAA 1f70e7b4-1526-4cb4-815f-98ecb7dfda33@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--3.14pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 4 m78 Top; 31.1 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Jul 23 { 2:33pm, 2019 }: 3^(PDT) XΜɟΘ One should always think with the larger head, not the smaller one. Mr AA replied ( to me ): > Come on, Jeff. You have been able to slip out > of that child support noose pretty easily! I was describing the recent bout of fake marriages here in America, not my situation, back in 1988 -- although there are similarities. I got off pretty unscathed myself; nevertheless, I would never do it again, -- it was a huge, dumb mistake -- I was _ extremely naïve. One should always think with the larger head, not the smaller one. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh3no3$lt5$36@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.25am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh5ir3$tmd$10@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--8.33pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh6a1t$tmd$29@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.23--1.02am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m378 Mad; 1.3 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 22 { 11:38pm, 2019 }:53 XΛрʭ Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > The emergency room has to take you in and, > > if you can't afford to pay, you you simply fill out some paperwork, > > and that's it -- it doesn't even show up on your credit report. > > Debt debt debt, debt, debt, debt debt debt ... No, it's written off; the patient owes nothing. > > Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America, > > while a rapist jumps the wall, sells methamphetamines, > > and gets free healthcare. > > > > You only want rapists, not doctors. > > Also, you're a blatant scofflaw. > > Blatant Scofflaw, Jeff Relf, only wants rapists, not doctors. How do you figure ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019 Kensi qh3bd2$p9$3@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh3no3$lt5$36@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.25am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh5ir3$tmd$10@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--8.33pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 8 m377 Mad; 3.4 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 22 { 5: 2pm, 2019 }:43 XΛϠʣ Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors. > > Already refuted a thousand times. Really ? I must've missed it. > > The poorest person in America is damn rich; > > he can get the best medical care and pay nothing. > > If you believe that, you simply don't live > on planet Earth; so I can't help you. The emergency room has to take you in and, if you can't afford to pay, you you simply fill out some paperwork, and that's it -- it doesn't even show up on your credit report. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me MrChrisV ci9bje57e57uqrlnvh0i60qesku2dcsmkf@4ax.com HughHuntzinger 28243c50-bc8f-4d26-8873-ca7eb905a1d6@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.54am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m9 Top; 3.9 Hours, GoogleG, 143.85.5.26, Jul 22 { 5:35am, 2019 }: 7^(PDT) XΛɽс Puppies get rescued, not "stray humans". Hugh Huntzinger: > Given that the kids were born here, they're 100% US Citizens > with all of the rights and long term demographic implications thereof. Which means ugly old men, with absolutely no personality, are getting fooled by their (supposed) "wives", leaving them with nothing but a child support obligation. There's an army of enforcers to ensure that his paycheck+BankAccount get attached; -- none of it is ever forgiven, not even if he's a prisoner of war, fighting for America, in Iraq. Failure to comply results in indefinite jail time; if you don't pay, you must stay -- especially if she gets welfare. And what of the kids from these wonderful "marriages" ? Puppies get rescued, not "stray humans". ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019 Kensi qh3bd2$p9$3@gioia.aioe.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh3no3$lt5$36@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.22--11.25am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 4 m380 Mad; 9.2 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 22 { :14am, 2019 }:11 XΛȾʃ Blatant Scofflaw, Ms Nadegda, only wants rapists, not doctors. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Ridiculously High minimum wages put people out of work, > > [ my propaganda ] debunks that. While the overall unemployment rate is under 4%, the rate for those who earn minimum wage is about 13%. They deserve, and will get, a higher hourly rate ( 15+$/hr ); but everyone is scrambling to avoid paying them, via boycotting [**], automation, and imports. [ **: I don't eat out, not even at McDonald's ] In Vietnam, where wages are much lower, street vendors provide high-quality, ultra-cheap food, -- something Americans can only dream about. What's more, they keep the place clean. The Congressional Budget office (CBO): Many studies have found little or no effect of minimum wages on employment, but many others have found substantial reductions in employment. [...] under the $15 option [...] CBO estimates that there is about a two-thirds chance that the change in employment would lie between about zero and a reduction of 3.7 million workers. [...] the $15 option would reduce total real ( inflation-adjusted ) family income in 2025 by $9 billion, or 0.1 percent. [...] mainly affecting low-income families. http://CBO.GOV/Publication/55410 > > > > Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America, > > > > while a rapist from Mexico gets in immediately. The rapist just jumps the wall, sells methamphetamines, and gets free healthcare, same as everyone else in America, who can't pay. And he's totally under the radar, we can't hardly track him. You only want rapists, not doctors. Also, you're a blatant scofflaw. > > > > receiving free healthcare+housing+food The poorest person in America is damn rich; he can get the best medical care and pay nothing. If you believe otherwise, you simply don't live on planet Earth; so I can't help you. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019 Kensi qh3bd2$p9$3@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--9.39pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m203 Mad; 4.3 Minutes, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Jul 21 { 8:43pm, 2019 }:29^(2) XΛbə Ridiculously High minimum wages put people out of work. Kensi replied ( to me ): > > A ridiculously high minimum wage puts people out of work; > > The article Nadegda linked to debunks that. You didn't read it, did you? > You just read the headline and immediately started frothing. I read the whole thing, slowly. The 70 year chart of government deficits intrigued me the most; I was shocked at how accurately it tracked my/our fortunes in life; the higher the deficit spending, the worst things are/were. Interest rates appear to track oil prices, after smoothing. Ridiculously High minimum wages put people out of work, including automation and imports; I see it firsthand, all the time. I could show you countless case studies, proving it, but I don't feel the need, as it's beyond obvious to anybody with a working brain ( not you ). > Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America while a rapist > from Mexico gets in immediately, [citation NOT needed] > receiving free healthcare+housing+food [citation NOT needed] ■ MsNadegda qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-AEB37F.16012521072019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.23pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 1 m117 Dropped; 2.3 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 21 { 4: 1pm, 2019 }:34^(-7) XΚწɞ Does Siri Cruise love rapists, hate doctors, or both ? Siri Cruise replied ( to me ): > > Those who come from afar, to break United States' laws, > > SHOULD go to prison, right ? otherwise, why do we have laws ?! > > And why waste time on a trial when they're obvious guilty? How is it that Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America while a rapist from Mexico gets in immediately, receiving free healthcare+housing+food, etc. ? Do you love rapists, hate doctors, or both ? ■ MsNadegda qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2m8r$lt5$34@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--8.11pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m376 Mad; 3.6 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 21 { 2:42pm, 2019 }:51 XΚჟp People rescue stray dogs and spit on the homeless. Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Those who come from afar, to break United States' laws, > > SHOULD go to prison, right ? otherwise, why do we have laws ?! > > Seeking asylum is not a violation of our laws, right-winger. Stop fooling yourself. How is it that Asian doctors have to wait 9 years to work in America while a rapist from Mexico gets in immediately, receiving free healthcare+housing+food, etc. ? Do you love rapists, hate doctors, or both ? > > You're the fascist, not me. > > > > " Duped academic journal publishes > > a rewrite of 'Mein Kampf' as a feminist manifesto " > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/ > > > > the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal > > terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was > > evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers. > > > > Thought precedes action. > > Incorrect. You support the camps. That makes you the fascist. I looked up "Nazi Fascist" in the dictionary, your photo was there. To your credit, at least you're not hiding it; so you're not fooling anyone ( for money ); e.g. pretending to be a meek "wife" and then turning on him. > > Inflation is merely another (regressive) tax. > > You've never met a tax that you didn't like, right kooky ? [crickets] Cheap oil is keeping inflation low. A ridiculously high minimum wage puts people out of work; I've seen it, here in Seattle. I don't eat out, that's for sure. If there were no minimum wage, I'd be eating out every day, employing people, left, right, and center. Lower housing standards, and everyone would have an affordable place to live. People rescue stray dogs and spit on the homeless. ■ MsNadegda qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qh2khg$lt5$21@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 2 m374 Mad; 1.9 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 21 { 2:13pm, 2019 }:21 XΚლɑ Inflation is a _ good thing ? Ms Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Today, males are pilloried the same way the Jews were > > in Nazi Germany, right before the concentration camps. > > I've got news for you, chucklefuck: the concentration camps > are already up and running, and it's Latinx people being > imprisoned in them, not white men. Those who come from afar, to break United States' laws, go to prison, right ? otherwise, why do we have laws ? ! > Get rid of your stupid persecution complex and look at > who the real fascists, and their real victims, are! You're the fascist, not me. " Duped academic journal publishes a rewrite of 'Mein Kampf' as a feminist manifesto " https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/ the substitution of feminist or anti-patriarchal terminology for Hitler’s well-known screed was evidently undetectable to the peer reviewers. Thought precedes action. > > Now we have Ms Nadegda advocating inflation, > > MID, kooky? qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me There, you advocate lowering interest rates because inflation is a _ good thing ( read the article ). Trouble is inflation is merely another (regressive) tax. You've never met a tax that you didn't like, right kooky ? ■ MsNadegda qh0ss3$lt5$7@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.21--7.08am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate, Talk.Politics.Guns ╱ 5 m375 Mad; 7.7 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 20 { 10:23pm, 2019 }:15 XΚʭщ 99% of men should not be having sex. Today, males are pilloried the same way the Jews were in Nazi Germany, right before the concentration camps. Kick out your best+brightest, like Nazi Germany+Venezuela, and you get hyperinflation, chaos. Now we have Ms Nadegda advocating inflation, which is a tax on the weakest+poorest. People are gaming the system; guys exploit young woman whose credit history hasn't been soiled yet; -- she gets (fleeting) money, and he gets (fleeting) sex. A fake wife gets you a real child support obligation; and we get more human "strays" running around, homeless. Bottom line: 99% of men should not be having sex. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Seattle.House.Prices.PNG ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-1BC8C9.15015718072019@reader.eternal-september.org JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--5.45pm.Seattle.2019 BranimirMaksimovic nIbYE.530389$sJ3.324214@fx04.am4 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-748C37.23072718072019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.19--3.15am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m127 Dropped; 3.7 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 18 { 11: 7pm, 2019 }:35^(-7) XΙzɟ Proud whores, Siri+Branimir. Siri+Branimir replied ( to me ): > > > I choose to _ not have sex, never. > > > I will _ not allow a woman to boss me around; > > > nor will I let her steal my time+money. > > > > you probably have to pay for sex... > > Plus hazard pay. Such proud whores you are ! ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019 Siri_Cruise│chine_bleu@yahoo_ chine.bleu-1BC8C9.15015718072019@reader.eternal-september.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--5.45pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m129 Dropped; 2.4 Hours, NewsWatcher➤Mac, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 18 { 3: 2pm, 2019 }: 5^(-7) XΘტɽ I choose to _ not have sex, never. Siri Cruise replied ( to me ): > The incel leading the incels. I choose to _ not have sex, never. I will _ not allow a (fake) "wife" boss me around; there's a million ways to better spend my time+money. I'm just trying to correct some myths about the female orgasm; too many "experts" are clueless about it, and they don't know how to do it vaginally. YouTube comments won't let me post this info; so I posted it here instead. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--0.41pm.Seattle.2019 Sir_Gregory_Hall_Esq_│greghall q3j1je1071l91j8om9qtrui0r5d485v7g2@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.06pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 1 m334 Dropped; 8.2 Minutes, F_Agent, Alt.NET, Jul 18 { :48pm, 2019 }:21^(-4) XΘьL Vaginal Orgasm. Greg replied ( to me ): > vaginal sex is only for reproductive purposes. Is that why you have sex with men ? ■ . CNpXE.46156$Yu7.21648@fx41.iad JohnSefton 89fcca0d-6450-4f66-a5da-8479b03c7301@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gpa6ujFbjnmU1@mid.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.01am.Seattle.2019 Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gparvsFfrokU1@mid.individual.net Sergio│invalid@invalid_com qgq4g2$1b73$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--10.51am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 3 m193 Mad; 1.5 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Aioe.ORG, Jul 18 { 8:50am, 2019 }:16^(-5) XΘФʈ Detachment and Depression. Sylvia Else wrote: > Be aware of long term systemic drugs "side effects" drs are pushing on > older people, part of obamacare and recomended by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, > which cause people to "get out" earlier, saving the GOV billions in > medicare, Social Security, and other Gov Services. > It is going on now, folks. You're preaching to the choir. I haven't spent a dime on healthcare, last 30+ years. No health insurance, nothing. I've never felt like doctors knew what they were doing. The biggest health problems we face today are those affecting our youth: detachment and depression. The more oxygen you breathe, the sooner you'll die. Goolge: oxidative-stress, case-studies. Quoting " Oxidative Stress and the Aging Brain ", Dr. Riddle, 2007. ncbi.nlm.NIH.GOV/books/NBK3869/ Currently, one of the most plausible and acceptable explanations for the mechanistic basis of aging is the " free radical theory of aging " ... The origin of this explanation has a foundation in the " rate of living theory " [ Pearl ], according to which, the lifespan of an individual depends on its rate of energy utilization ( metabolic rate ) ... Pearl proposed that the longevity of an organism is inversely correlated to its mass-specific metabolic rate: increasing an organism’s metabolic rate will decrease longevity, whereas factors that decrease the metabolic rate will increase longevity ... birds have a low rate of free radical production in brain and in other tissues [ increasing their longevity ] ■ . CNpXE.46156$Yu7.21648@fx41.iad JohnSefton 89fcca0d-6450-4f66-a5da-8479b03c7301@googlegroups.com Sylvia_Else│sylvia@email_ gpa6ujFbjnmU1@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.18--1.01am.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m6 Top; 4.4 Hours, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤Win7, Individual.NET, Jul 17 { 8:21pm, 2019 }:52^(10) XΘʙϘ Be Grateful. Sylvia: > If things [antibiotics] continue the way they are, > the only surgery people will risk having is life-saving. > Forget hip replacements, etc. The trick is to be grateful for what little you have ( longevity, health, money, etc. ). ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.379719eb1efdffc060b@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qgl9tc$5qb$28@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3797dec34b4f022662c@news.altopia.com Pandora│pandora@peak_org cckbv5.dt1.19.2@news.alt.net MsNadegda qgnr4i$5qb$64@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.379967092b8ca7466f@news.altopia.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--7.27pm.Seattle.2019 Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m805 Mad; 1.1 Hours, MicroPlanet, Alt.NET➤NET-Abuse.Checkmate, Jul 17 { 6:11pm, 2019 }: 6^(-7) XΘʃр A colony for AOC and Ms Nadegda ? Maybe we should create a colony for AOC, Ms Nadegda, and Million-Women-Marchers -- a real matriarchy. Brazil has lots of land, I hear. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 3f830g-jsm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Andy_Burns│usenet@andyburns_uk gp90l3F3n8fU1@mid.individual.net Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ ko440g-a0c.ln1@Telcontar.valinor nospam│nospam@nospam_invalid 170720191446303505%nospam@nospam.invalid Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 39e40g-l2k.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgo5eu$fc2$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--7.11pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m216 Mad; 2.5 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 17 { 2:54pm, 2019 }:39^(-4) XΘɣd I recently bought a TP-Link AC1750 (58$) Wi-Fi router. I recently bought a TP-Link AC1750 (58$) Wi-Fi router: https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B079JD7F7G 4 GigaBit LAN ports. Separately, I have 8-port switches. 2'500 SqFt of WiFi Coverage. 3 "high-gain" antennas and "strong" amplifiers. Connects to 50+ devices. OpenWRT _ can be loaded on it. It's for my tenants, and they haven't said anything; so I don't really know if it's any good or not. Amazon recommended it, in the "budget" category. ■ Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3797212ec709e0b0616@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qglaa5$5qb$32@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.3797dfb1a7613c6262f@news.altopia.com MsNadegda qglv1h$5qb$52@dont-email.me Checkmate│ricksabian1@gmail_ MPG.37983993863d5d3265a@news.altopia.com Kensi qgm6js$1f09$1@gioia.aioe.org Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.17--5.01am.Seattle.2019 Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 2 m202 Mad; 7.5 Hours, NewsTap➤iPad, Aioe.ORG, Jul 16 { 9: 2pm, 2019 }: ^(2) XΗЦɸ Be happy with what you got, and give more. Kensi: > Libtard's question is *still* unanswered ... Be happy with what you got, and give more. If protesters did that, leading by example, there'd be less depression, less detachment, and fewer heroin deaths. ■ Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com LJ9XE.77436$SH.77138@fx03.iad MsNadegda qgjcru$5qb$23@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.49am.Seattle.2019 MsNadegda qgl9vk$5qb$29@dont-email.me Klaus_Schadenfreude│ d3nsie11s20jsialtt14sjjioc89bjj35n@4ax.com MsNadegda qglujf$5qb$49@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.07pm.Seattle.2019 Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 10 m339 Mad; 16.4 Minutes, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 16 { 6:45pm, 2019 }:19 XΗϿΩ Ms Nadegda melted. Ms Nadegda replied ( to Klaus ): > > > > Trump 2024. > > > > > > Term limits, kooktard. Term limits. > > > > A packed Supreme Court and Constitutional Amendments, kooktard. > > Try it, and we'll open the fourth box of liberty all over your punk-ass. Who triggered the left-wing snowflake ? I think she melted. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ smjrvf-ks6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 7hrsvf-gm6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ s6g00g-7cb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgkbg5$kd1$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--2.33pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qglhdm$rlc$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--4.25pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m211 Mad; 25.3 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 16 { 3: pm, 2019 }:22^(-4) XΗυM Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer ? Paul replied ( to me ): > > Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer, or some such ? > > I'm too lazy to do stuff like that. > https://www.raymond.cc/blog/6-free-portable-file-managers-quicker-file-operations/ OK, I was hoping you'd have a better alternative, but you don't; so I'll stick with Windows File Explorer. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ lekpvf-5uc.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgd8l0$o5k$1@dont-email.me Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ smjrvf-ks6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 7hrsvf-gm6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ s6g00g-7cb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgkbg5$kd1$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--2.33pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╳ m210 Mad; 10.2 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 16 { 4:13am, 2019 }: 8^(-4) XΗɰȺ Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer ? Paul, Have you replaced Windows File Explorer with XYplorer, or some such ? If so, what do you recommend ? ■ Skeeter│lol@qmail_com MPG.37965b3f31170fb198a310@news.eternal-september.org TheSnitBot gp42i9F163qU20@mid.individual.net Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com ZT4XE.42098$XI3.6899@fx39.iad TheSnitBot gp4a8uF30hlU1@mid.individual.net Just_Wondering│JW@jw_com LJ9XE.77436$SH.77138@fx03.iad MsNadegda qgjcru$5qb$23@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--7.49am.Seattle.2019 Talk.Politics.Guns, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Checkmate ╱ 5 m313 Mad; 12 Hours, F_Agent, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 15 { 7:30pm, 2019 }:22 XΗPM Trump 2024. Trump 2024. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ 6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad SteveCarroll 56096d9b-5213-4b24-b78d-aaa80fc7be17@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.16pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll c67ab165-962c-40b3-8f84-e866235cce50@googlegroups.com MrChrisV 42hrie1niufah9rtgeeehf4jftvsc7d6m8@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--6.23am.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m173 Dropped; 33.5 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Fastusenet.ORG, Jul 16 { 5:35am, 2019 }:38^(-5) XΗɽრ Expensive monitors. MrChrisV wrote: > Relf's monitor is actually a TV, I think. > Has he bothered to clarify that, in all of this whining? No, it's a 978$ monitor ( 2+ years ago ), not a cheap TV. Philips bdm4037uw, 4k, 40", 25 lbs, mounted on a long-high monitor arm. I've had a 4K monitor for 5+ years now. I'm thinking of buying yet another one, for a higher refresh rate, but I'd have to buy a new CPU+motherboard as well, and I'm worried that the economy may be tanking soon. Also, I can't decide what size I want. > "'Easy to read' is good for TV, not computer science." - Jeff Relf Amen brother, Preach it ! ■ Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qgi0gk.6ig.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--6.20am.Seattle.2019 default│default@defaulter_net 1h6pie10o12bsiplbmn0bbqu1k368t46g2@4ax.com Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ lsg00g-7cb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor default│default@defaulter_net 3u5rie93ctoolervu8jc9b3aqql3vbuu36@4ax.com Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 0jr00g-m8j.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--6.04am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m50 Cool; 44.5 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jul 16 { 5:12am, 2019 }:48^(2) XΗɺm My computer never sleeps. Yes, Carlos, my computer never sleeps. I put my monitor to sleep so that there's no light, no back-lighting. My computer draws a few watts, and the CPU/GPU is slightly above room temperature. ■ Moderator│moderator@alt_comp_ ee3qie5b1o6f2ge4i141qg6r7mvefno853@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.16--5.49am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Sci.Physics ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 11.9 Hours, F_Agent, Aioe.ORG, Jul 15 { 4:36pm, 2019 }: 9^(-5) XΖჲ9 Everyone is detached and depressed; voting is a joke. AntiFa's lover wrote: > If you're not white. GET LOST..... I'm more red, less blue-green, RGB( 255, 224, 189 ); OK ? > If you're a Democrat or Independent, GET LOST..... Everyone is detached and depressed; voting is a joke. Earning/Spending less is the easiest, most effective way to avoid taxes+regulations. This time around, I think "The Depression" will be more mental than physical. > If you're not an American citizen, GET LOST..... Life is not a "True or False" test. Single bit, binary thinking will get you nowhere. > If you're a Homosexual, GET LOST..... You don't like artists ? no music ? White's learn from Blacks, men learn from women, and vice versa. http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.PNG > If you're not a Christian, GET LOST..... Buddha was Christlike, and that was more than enough. > Only Trump supporters should be allowed to own > and/or use computers. Lipservice is not "support". > Niggers, Spics, Gooks, Chinks, Japs, Muslims, Athiests. > Faggots, Queers, Butt fuckers, Homos, Lesbians, Transexuals, > Liberals, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, and illegal aliens. Gay. ■ HerbertGlazier 00f3ff99-6dab-4034-a945-560429881be6@googlegroups.com MrAA e865c0b0-a67b-4c69-94a8-a0d454c381ef@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier 1c291286-82b4-46f1-b68c-c0e34f41b4f0@googlegroups.com MrAA 93b0fea6-26f1-4a0c-bccd-2ec776111343@googlegroups.com HerbertGlazier b1d3dd3c-dfe7-4363-bde0-417d52af8575@googlegroups.com MrAA 42dfb9bc-a91c-4df4-b03e-ff1a488b6fc3@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--4.17pm.Seattle.2019 Sci.Physics ╱ 2 m64 Top; 20.8 Minutes, GoogleG, 205.153.48.25, Jul 15 { 3:52pm, 2019 }:23^(PDT) XΖცЕ The S&P 500 index looks more like a mountain than a valley. MrAA: > The stock market money keeps rolling in too. > I guess I am playing that right. > Have a lifetime of experience there. The S&P 500 index looks more like a mountain than a valley; i.e. it's more likely to fall than climb. Rents in Portland are falling. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019 Owl sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 . sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019 Frank_Slootweg│this@ddress_is_ qgi0gk.6ig.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.15--6.20am.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 53.4 Minutes, tin➤CygWin, Individual.NET, Jul 15 { 4:57am, 2019 }: 9 XΖϟΞ I might have to upgrade my CPU+motherboard. Frank replied ( to me ): > > No one knows how to stop the mouse > > from accidentally waking the monitor; > > apparently, it can't be done. > > AFAIK, the 'powercfg' command can solve your problem. > " powercfg /devicequery wake_armed " "wake_armed" returns just: " HID Keyboard Device (001) "; i.e. hitting the keyboard will wake my computer. > a mouse movement should no longer wake the computer/monitor. It's become apparent to me that waking the monitor is not the same thing as waking the computer; there are settings for the latter, but not the former. A mouse button toggles my monitor "off/on" (sleep/wake); when a random bump wakes my monitor, my code turns it off again. But, with DisplayPort, "sleep" is no different than "unplugged"; so I get blasted by a bright "no signal" message, right when I'm trying to relax. Hopefully, switching to a HDMI v2 cable will solve my problem; I'll know later this week, when it arrives. My iGPU, the Core-i7-5775c, stops at HDMI v1.4; so I might have to upgrade my CPU+motherboard. ■ ScottDoty govhvtF1aajU1@mid.individual.net Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgeu0h$91t$1@dont-email.me ScottDoty gp28f7Fjde4U1@mid.individual.net ScottDoty gp2ch9Fjde4U2@mid.individual.net ScottDoty gp2ct5Fjde4U3@mid.individual.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.57pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m7 Top; 31.7 Minutes, Pan, Individual.NET, Jul 14 { 9:14pm, 2019 }:29 XΖʢʕ Why run Linux on Windows on Linux ? Scott: > I need to be running Virtualbox 6 > to have a HyperV virt run inside it. Why run Linux on Windows on Linux ? ■ Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ 6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad SteveCarroll 56096d9b-5213-4b24-b78d-aaa80fc7be17@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.16pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll c67ab165-962c-40b3-8f84-e866235cce50@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.42pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m123 Cool; 6.7 Minutes, GoogleG, Jul 14 { 9:11pm, 2019 }:40^(PDT) XΖʡტ A button press would be much easier, and more reliable. There's no "don't wake the monitor" setting, Steve. "don't wake Windows" is completely different. I have a clunky solution already: I turn my monitor towards the ceiling, away from me. Your solution is ALSO clunky. I would much rather have a software solution. > you care more about the solution being button-launched > than you care about "trying to sleep". A button press would be much easier, and more reliable, were it possible. As I said, over and over again, it's not BIG problem, Snit. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019 . mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor . rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor . Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.33pm.Seattle.2019 Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid 4stnieheko9cbani2bmqk96168lvdoqmp2@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.29pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m2 Shifty; 27.9 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Jul 14 { 8:50pm, 2019 }:28^(-5) XΖʞʔ Switching to a HDMI v2.0 cable should solve my "No Signal" problem. Char Jackson replied ( to me ): > > I bought a 6' cable from Walmart for 12$ total; > > Amazon wanted 20$, after shipping+taxes. > > Bought online, I presume. Yes, because I don't have a car, and I hate riding buses, and Walmart is too far away from (deep) Seattle. > To go outside, you'd probably have > to wear a welder's mask, right ? I just squint a lot, when walking into the sun, and I put my hand over my eyes. > Sensitive eyes wouldn't be much fun, > except in very limited circumstances. It's great right now, in my dark room. I look+act like a prototypical hacker/beard. ■ . sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid . rjvmie5fr514ajht8jpcmb53a76e0ocdfa@4ax.com . Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.05pm.Seattle.2019 . o8eniellbmm9c867ggmluh27q5pi76k6tn@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2019 Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid vjtnieljev0g33k005d6kcvgcrsbunbugf@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.16pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 2.8 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Jul 14 { 8:45pm, 2019 }:42^(-5) XΖʝχ Laying on your back is the only way to mouse. Char Jackson replied ( to me ): > > Laying on your back is the only way to mouse. > > Hmmm, please tell me more. > > Maybe I'm missing out on a good thing. > I'm not opposed to mousing while laying in bed. My mouse-arm rests on my "twin" bed, so my hand hangs over, onto the side-table, where this mouse (+pad) is: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/MouseKeyboardLayout.PNG Note: There's no physical keyboard. My virtual keyboard is extremely custom; it might be too hard for you to create. My 40' 4k monitor swings on a long+high monitor arm; it's super-difficult to find a proper monitor arm, one that can handle a 25 lb, 40' monitor... you may have to improvise. I use the Amazon Basics monitor arm, along with an extension. Also, my table had to be reinforced with plywood and attached to it is a 25 lb counter-weight, using glue and clamps. A large monitor is good for viewing (bright) videos, farther away. When viewing text, up close, smaller monitors are better; otherwise, the edges are too far from the center. I'm not sure what the best compromise is. DisplayPort is buggy ( sleep mode is effectively the same thing as pulling the cord ); use HDMI v2 instead. ■ Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ 6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad SteveCarroll 56096d9b-5213-4b24-b78d-aaa80fc7be17@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.16pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m121 Cool; 1.7 Hours, GoogleG, Jul 14 { 6: pm, 2019 }: 5^(PDT) XΖʂ5 Monitors waking up != Windows waking up. Steve Carroll replied ( to Kompressor ): > I don't see why the solution you suggested doesn't work. > online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/stop-mouse-from-waking-windows-up-from-sleep-mode You don't see a lot of things, Steve. Monitors waking up != Windows waking up. Besides, I tried it, and it doesn't stop the monitor from waking up. > "At night, in a dark room, when I'm trying to sleep, movement jiggles > the mouse, briefly turning the monitor back on again (yikes!);" > ... was just a cover story, it has nothing to do with what he wants. "Snitty", adjective: Agitated or Annoyed. Steve Carroll. " No point in getting all Steve Carroll over the weather. " https://YourDictionary.COM/Snitty ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qgfsdp$ea3$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.29pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll acc175b3-d081-4dc6-af35-e85d514377f7@googlegroups.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.04pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll 972da643-1452-419b-b3af-ac6d4f0711a1@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--8.00pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 2 m121 Cool; 2.4 Hours, GoogleG, Jul 14 { 5:21pm, 2019 }:31^(PDT) XΖɻμ "Snitty", adjective. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > I just put a thick guitar pick under one side of my mouse, OK, I'll try that. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019 Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.33pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 3 m49 Cool; 19.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jul 14 { 4:49pm, 2019 }:18^(2) XΖɶɌ Switching to a HDMI v2.0 cable should solve my "No Signal" problem. I wrote: > 15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep > { possibly from a RANDOM awakening }, > as I'm starting to relax, "No Signal" flashes up, > annoying the crap out of me. Switching to a HDMI v2.0 cable should solve my "No Signal" problem, I think. I bought a 6' cable from Walmart for 12$, after shipping+taxes; Amazon wanted 20$, after shipping+taxes. https://www.walmart.com/ip/2-0-HDMI-Cable-ready-for-For-PS3-PS4-PC-TV-Xbox-28AWG-Goldplate-Braided-Cord-HDMI-Cable-4K-6ft/329154783 ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ vkrsvf-gm6.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.36pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 3 m49 Cool; 19.3 Minutes, Gecko➤Jan_2010➤X11, Individual.NET, Jul 14 { 4:49pm, 2019 }:18^(2) XΖɶɌ DisplayPort 1.4 or HDMI v2.0 is different ? Carlos E.R. wrote: > > 15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep > > { possibly from a RANDOM awakening }, > > as I'm starting to relax, "No Signal" flashes up, > > annoying the crap out of me. > > I don't have that issue. > But that is a bug between the operating system and the monitor. > They don't usually document bugs, you know. It's a DisplayPort "feature", I think. I wonder if DisplayPort 1.4 or HDMI v2.0 is different. ■ Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg7sg$jah$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.28pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qggbmu$m0q$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.32pm.Seattle.2019 Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid n5fniepo7e9fp8cebh2cst212t6iomc1k5@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.18pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m24 Cool; 29.6 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Jul 14 { 4:38pm, 2019 }:59^(-5) XΖɴΔ The boom is busting. Char Jackson replied ( to me ): > Paul was suggesting that you use a VGA card to fake out the computer. > He didn't suggest that you actually run the monitor from VGA. I might end up dropping another grand on another monitor. Maybe next year; the boom is busting, I think. I wonder how this will affect the upcoming elections. I might end up on the streets, with very little privacy. ■ Owl sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Owl sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid Mandy_Liefbowitz│ rjvmie5fr514ajht8jpcmb53a76e0ocdfa@4ax.com JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.05pm.Seattle.2019 Char_Jackson│none@none_invalid o8eniellbmm9c867ggmluh27q5pi76k6tn@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.07pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m23 Cool; 2.7 Minutes, F_Agent, HighWinds➤Newshosting.COM, Jul 14 { 4:23pm, 2019 }:29^(-5) XΖɱთ Laying on your back is the only way to mouse. Char Jackson replied ( to me ): > 1. Move the computer out of the bedroom. or > 2. Move the bed out of the computer room. Now you're just being silly. Laying on your back is the only way to mouse. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ 6JOWE.57023$lH5.51570@fx05.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--5.01pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m6 Shifty; 9.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 14 { 4:16pm, 2019 }:18 XΖɰА Who makes the best monitors, Taiwan, Korea or ShenZhen ? Kompressor replied ( to me ): > > > Wear a blindfold when you sleep. > > > You always seem to have the oddest problems. > > > > Yes, that's my problem, no one else cares. > > You've gotten a lot of responses from people trying to help. Yes, people _ here would help me, if they could; but we aren't the people who make|review monitors. > if it were such a big problem, there would be a solution, > mitgation or work around. Right, that's precisely my point. My problem too unique. > I hope you find a solution. I'm out of ideas. Thank you. I need something like an OLED 4K monitor. Year after year, there's been little progress on that front. Who makes the best monitors, Taiwan, Korea or ShenZhen ? I wonder if Trump will put tariffs on them ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019 Owl sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgfsjd$k7g$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.52pm.Seattle.2019 Jim│gazwad45@nowherelocal_org rf0bqtu441wg.1wrcm6i6hjyy.dlg@40tude.net Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.44pm.Seattle.2019 ➤Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy, Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m1 Shifty; 20.7 Minutes, 40tude, Aioe.ORG, Jul 14 { 4: 5pm, 2019 }:26^(-4) XΖɮე Collecting pocket lint. Jim replied ( to me ): > Maybe you should find another hobby because computers ain't the hobby for you Jeff. > Collecting pocket lint or door knobs might prove fun for you. How's that working out for you ? ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg7sg$jah$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.28pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qggbmu$m0q$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.32pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m205 Mad; 33.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 14 { 3:52pm, 2019 }:13^(-4) XΖɬϻ DisplayPort is funky. Paul replied ( to me ): > Check your junk pile and see what sources you > can use to "fake out" your monitor. The digital > ports seem like they need power sources to be faked out. I am pretty sure I've got a firmware problem, not a hardware problem. DisplayPort is funky. VGA can't run 4K. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ e7MWE.59295$0_.36597@fx02.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ BVNWE.26002$V96.8494@fx06.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.09pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 4 m62 Shifty; 21.5 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 14 { 3:21pm, 2019 }:21 XΖɧβ Different people, different problems. Kompressor replied ( to me ):: > Wear a blindfold when you sleep. > You always seem to have the oddest problems. Yes, that's my problem, no one else cares. Different people, different problems. And it's very much a first-world problem, not a big deal. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019 Owl sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll qgfsdp$ea3$2@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.29pm.Seattle.2019 SteveCarroll acc175b3-d081-4dc6-af35-e85d514377f7@googlegroups.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--4.04pm.Seattle.2019 Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m119 Cool; 3.1 Hours, GoogleG, Jul 14 { :37pm, 2019 }:57^(PDT) XΖɄɵ The table has to be close to my bed because that's where I use my PC. Steve Carroll replied ( to me ): > My mouse doesn't read anything when it's on its back or > if I cover the sensor... or just unplug it. Flip it over, set it on > the nightstand and see if it triggers. . My mouse must be immediately available, 24/7. The table, with the mouse, sometimes gets hit; even when I'm sleeping. The table has to be close to my bed because that's where I use my PC. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.06am.Seattle.2019 Owl avzubuo3gau30.3y@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019 Owl sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgfsjd$k7g$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.52pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m12 Shifty; 4.1 Hours, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 14 { 11:34am, 2019 }:20^(-4) XΖȷВ My Philips bdm4037uw has only one "button": a joystick/button. Paul replied ( to me ): > Sometimes, certain combinations of those adjustment buttons > on the LCD monitor, change how it works. My Philips bdm4037uw has only one "button": a joystick/button. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Owl sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019 BranimirMaksimovic xgMWE.736825$Xh7.398042@fx25.am4 JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.14pm.Seattle.2019 BranimirMaksimovic 3LNWE.1734119$Szs1.1316845@fx08.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.35pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m3 Top; 9.2 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Jul 14 { 3:10pm, 2019 }: 7 XΖɥϵ Firefox v67, Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition. Branimir replied ( to me ): > > > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG > > > > > > You are amazing! > > > > What ?! why ?! Do you also have sensitive eyes ? > > No, but [ isn't this a ] Linux tiling window manager ? No, the screenshot shows: Firefox v67, Developers Edition, Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg7sg$jah$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.28pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 2 m204 Mad; 32.4 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 14 { 2:46pm, 2019 }:55^(-4) XΖɡе Is your monitor using VGA ? Paul replied ( to me ): > Try the following. No promises. > If the monitor has a VGA input... My 60 Hz 4K monitor uses DisplayPort v1.2 . > If all cables indicate they've fallen off, > then perhaps the monitor is in the best position to put up > the "No Signal" dialog. Preach ! Is your monitor using VGA ? if so, you can't duplicate my scenario. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ qiLWE.58623$I%1.5034@fx08.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ e7MWE.59295$0_.36597@fx02.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ cYMWE.99474$s53.81675@fx33.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--3.16pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m4 Shifty; 23.6 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 14 { 2:15pm, 2019 }:52 XΖɜϘ "wake the computer" is unchecked. Kompressor replied ( to me ):: > > > Try the Root Hub the port is on. > > > That is where the power management options are. > > > > The "wake the computer" option is grayed out. > > Google: USB-root-hub, "wake the computer", greyed-out "wake the computer" is unchecked; so I don't care if it's grayed-out or not. I want to NOT wake the monitor -- not the computer. ■ Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ 5aeqvf-o0v.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--6.49am.Seattle.2019 Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ mg9svf-7sm.ln1@Telcontar.valinor Carlos_E_R_│robin_listas@es_ rjcsvf-69p.ln1@Telcontar.valinor JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.24pm.Seattle.2019 Paul│nospam@needed_invalid qgg4vj$3t8$1@dont-email.me Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.35pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m203 Mad; 10.9 Minutes, Ratcatcher/2_0_0_25, Eternal-September.ORG, Jul 14 { 1:57pm, 2019 }:22^(-4) XΖəγ 15 seconds after the monitor is put to sleep. Paul replied ( to me ):: > My Acer monitor sets the power LED to amber, when the > RGBHV signals all go to zero DC. And the screen goes black. Fifteen seconds later, my monitor flashes a bright-white dialog screen that says "Attention: No Video Input". > My monitor knows the difference between computer S1 sleep > ( screen goes black ) versus cable has fallen off. When you put your monitor to sleep, you don't get "Attention: No Video Input" fifteen seconds later ? Maybe I should buy a new monitor; Amazon doesn't sell a "4K OLED Monitor". Monitor-Reviews don't mention these things; the vast majority of people just don't care. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--9.22am.Seattle.2019 Owl sb99tag03a.wuuo@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Owl sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019 BranimirMaksimovic xgMWE.736825$Xh7.398042@fx25.am4 Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.14pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m2 Top; 39 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Usenet-News.NET, Jul 14 { 1:29pm, 2019 }:17 XΖɔы Do you also have sensitive eyes ? Branimir replied ( to me ): > > No monitor-reviews mentioned it because > > most people don't operate in pitch-black rooms, like I do; > > nor do their screens look like this: > > > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/YouTubeComHist.PNG > > You are amazing! What ?! why ?! Do you also have sensitive eyes ? ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--11.16am.Seattle.2019 Owl sz8b90ga0g.ahu4@rooftop.invalid JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--0.07pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ qiLWE.58623$I%1.5034@fx08.iad JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--1.16pm.Seattle.2019 Kompressor│Kompressor@local_ e7MWE.59295$0_.36597@fx02.iad Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.10pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10, Comp.OS.Linux.Advocacy ╱ 1 m3 Shifty; 48.9 Minutes, slrn➤Linux, HighWinds➤Blocknews.NET, Jul 14 { 1:19pm, 2019 }:22 XΖɓɒ I spent hours googling, looking for a better monitor. Kompressor: > > > Device Manager --> USB --- Find the USB port that the mouse is plugged into > > > Go into Power Management and UNSELECT "Allow This Device To Wake The Computer". > > > > Nothing to de-select, not an option. > > Try the Root Hub the port is on. > That is where the power management options are. The option is grayed out. ■ JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--7.33am.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qgctgh$nha$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--0.21pm.Seattle.2019 Mayayana│mayayana@invalid_ qgdhcq$9n3$1@dont-email.me JeffRelf Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.13--2.59pm.Seattle.2019 John│Man@the_keyboard e71niedfr7sq7ehqgop1tt90hb6df6d8ha@4ax.com Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.14--2.06pm.Seattle.2019 Alt.Comp.OS.Windows-10 ╱ 1 m4 Cool; 5.6 Minutes, F_Agent, Netfront.NET, Jul 14 { :49pm, 2019 }:13^(1) XΖɌȿ I'm happy to answer calls 24/7. John replied ( to me ): > Have a small, glowing lamp turn on *first* to allow your onboard > optics to adjust to seeing light. *then* hit the monitor on-switch. No, I don't want that. I have three or four brightness levels+areas I can turn on, but I only turn them on for very specific reasons, and "waking up" is not one of them. > You *never* accept any advice and any gratitude expressed > is grudging and tainted with " ... but ...". .... John said, looking in the mirror. > > Bria v5, my Win10 soft pho